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Gotta be good for us if Inter get chucked out of Europe eh? Another team out of our way for POT 2... Need Jackie to sign on, fingers crossed with Bellamy. Shouldn't we be after Riordan? Has scored bucket loads for an ordinary team... Sad to see our wee Brazillian of on his bike but he was neer going to fit into a 4-4-2, even Lubo would have struggled in that formation, both are/were 3-5-2 players, free role behind forwards... If MON intended to play 4-4-2 he should have known better... But top of the league so not complaining.
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Hats off to BBJ. Good to see him back into it. I was one of the gang who was on his case. If we are going to slate players when they are not performing we need to give them credit when its due.
We should build on this opportunity by hammering the opposition in the next game and set it up for the jugular slice against RFC. We need to take it to them and deliver the final blow.
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Another painfully mediocre performance in a painfully mediocre season, don't let the scoreline fool you.
Fortunately for us, and O'Neill, the opposition is so dire that we might just get away with winning the league this season.
Dire stuff.
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King Henrik...Agreesurely result over performance matters most at this stage of the season. Granted we've not played the quality of football required but it's the consistency which has been missing this season. Time to reflect on our "mediocrity" will no doubt be sought after we've won the title!
MON the hoops!
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Take out the word "Agree" from last post and it should make sense!! Apologies...it is early!!
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Great to see Hartson get a hat trick,MON should not be putting on the field of play injured players, Suttons' hamstring the other week the classic example,as long as Hartson does the business when it counts (against the huns)then the pressure will be off him.
Absolutely NO chance of Miller coming back to Celtic.He left a free agent,Do you think Celtic will pay a fee for him to return?Unless he returns on loan!
If these Man Utd players come to CP will they just become another two players who will be on the wrong side of their careers and become over paid Celtic players, like some we are trying to get rid of at the moment.If they do come,I hope it's on very short contracts.
Cabbage McFlabbergaster
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King Henrik - absolutely spot on mate! Great result- abysmal performance. For any of you bhoys who didn't see the game 4-0 totally flatters us.We were rubbish.Play like this against the huns and we will lose the league. However, they are even worse than us so we might get away with it!
johnnybhoy.ch
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Thank You Big Bad John! That hat-trick will shut a lot of doubters up.
Agree it wasn't the best of performances, but performances matter little when you're this close to the title - it's all about the result.
We Shall Not Be Moved.
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Important 3 points. Well done to Hartson for his hat trick, admittedly i am not a fan of his. However his work rate again last night was garbage. At this stage of the season points are all that matters, but you'd need to be on drugs if you think that was an acceptable preformance. Season Ticket for next season - i doubt it. If it's going to be long balls from Balde/Valgaeren then i'll go to Asda on a Saturday afternoon instead.
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Not a great performance but we would have taken 4-0 before the game.
I have been one who has criticised Hartson and last night does nothing to reverse my opinion. The header was a very good goal, the first I would have stuck away, the third a penalty.
Fair play to him if he has played through an injury, but there is no questioning he has a weight problem. Again a couple of times Bellamy tore away down the right and our midfield were in the box before him.
If he nicks the winning goal against Rangers I will shut up about him-but will still want a slimmed down Hartson or a replacement next season.
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Anonymous 9.05 Enjoy your shopping at asdas. Celtic dont need fans like you anyway give your season ticket up to someone who supports the bhoys thick and thin. It beggars belief with people like you. The team go out against a team fighting for their spl lives and score 4 goals ffs. Celtic were never going to lose that game last night whether it was going to be 1-0 or 4-0. Marshall made a world class save to keep the scorline 1-0 and looked good coming for balls apart from one occasion when bobo got in the way and got injured. I dont care if its not pretty stuff against the dons on saturday as long as we get the points. If you want fast flowing hi scoring stuff go watch basketball.
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Give the guy a break Tom!
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Great Result! Poor Performance.
To play football - The Glasgow Celtic Way !
I Thought BBJ was dire last night. The fact that he managed a hat-trick just goes to show that he can be a deadly finisher.
It might show commitment and team spirit playing through an injury but is this really a wise move?
When Bob O'Balde went down with about 15-20 minutes to go why did they not just switch him for McGeady and say "Well done big man, but it is better to be safe that sorry". We still would have been able to play a 4-4-2.
In fact IMHO it would have been a better formation as more players would have been in they're favoured positions.
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Play badly and win 4-0
or
Play reasonably well and get beat 1-0
I know what I prefer at this time of the season.
We only started passing through midfield after the 2nd goal went in. I'm no manager but maybe Sutton and Lennon being our central midfield duo had something to do with this.....
Congratulations to BBJ....still immobile, still lacking pace but still scoring a barrel load!!
As we all know he has a weight control problem; giving him some credit the ankle problem has probably been restricting his training...
I thought Bellamy had a great game....although it must be said he did lack a bit of compusure on several occasions in front of goal..
Ps does anyone know the last remaining games ie Home/away...
Is it:
Rangers A
Hearts A
Hibs H
Aberdeen H
Caley/Motherwell H
(In no particular order)
If so how can someone tell me how that was worked out?
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spot on Anonymous(9:22 AM), we really don't need fans like that at the games.
For the run-in the bhoys need 60,000 fans roaring them on right to the end, not whinging tut-tut-ers.
It depresses me to think what Anonymous(9:05am) would be like at the game if it's 0-0 on Saturday with 5 mins to go. In fact, he probably would have left 5 mins earlier to get a "head start on the traffic".
Why don't you just go to ASDA this Saturday anyway?
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I enjoy your insight and explanations of the financial affairs of our club and the 'inspired guesses ' at future plans and expenditures .I sometimes think you're a plant to 'manage' the expectations of we the faithful. I am a natural cynic !.A question if I may, What is the monetary value and percentage of income of 'Bums on Seats 'at CP and how does it compare with other top clubs in EPL and Europe
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Anonymous 9.22am - you are living in an illusion. I can concede us playing badly & winning on an odd occasion, but we are playing football like this on a regular basis. This isn't the traditional Celtic Way. Infact when they aren't wearing the hoops, it could be Bolton or West Brom we're watching. I support the team fully & always will till i die, however if you think i'm paying £500 quid again this year for little investment in the team & a horrible style of play then you're fooled. Apart from the success - Is this any better to watch than the Celtic teams we watched under McNeil, Hay, Brady & Macari?
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Anonymous 9.47 - I've never left a game early in my life, not even a Reserve game. Why don't you & Anonymous 9.22 meet up every weekend & watch 'The Road to Seville' DVD with a box of hankies. The rest of us will strive towards seeing a team on the park that plays cohesive attacking football, not the muck we have tolerated this season.
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I posted at 8.38 am saying we were awful but a great result. Just a wee clarifcation of my own position here . I'll take awful until the end of the season as long as the result is a win. My point is that I am worried that if we play like last night we won't get the wins and we'll drop points in the run-in.johnnybhoy.ch
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Anonymous (10:15AM) - (quote)"Season Ticket for next season - i doubt it. If it's going to be long balls from Balde/Valgaeren then i'll go to Asda on a Saturday afternoon instead"
...if that's your notion of 'striving forward', I'd hate to see your blasé attitude to things.
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Delighted to have won 4-0, especially with the huns losing. Here's hoping we can win the league now and start playing football the Celtic way again.
Great to see Hartson respond so well. Here's hoping he does it against the huns. That would justify and more a "poor" season from him in my book.
Parkhead should be reverberating with support on Saturday!!
Parkheadcumsalford.
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for the first time in many weeks i was not at the game however listening to the radio it seemed like many other games witnessed this season, go 1 up and then freeze, is it through fear,arrogance or the manager's instruction? i welcome your comments, it does not make good entertainment, for some of you it would appear that it is not about being entertained it is about winning at any cost.should we accept that is it right to slag off some of us who want entertained, the team is good enough the application is not.
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Anonymous 10.33 - Asda has some of the best deals around you know. Their only flaw is that their own make of Pan Loaves never last as long as the likes of Mother's Pride or Warburtons
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Test
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Hartson is the top scorer in the SPL (without taking pens),playing for the jersey through injury,and and is supposedly still a fat lazy BBJ
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On a slightly different note, but interesting stats I thought Id share. Below are the Champs League stats (not including this year) .
A few points.
a. The EPL is a lot closer in quality to the portugese and dutch leagues than it is to the Italian or Spanish.
b. The Tilsleyesque assumed claim of the EPL being the best league in the world is far from the truth. fourth best league in europe - perhaps.
c. For all the discussions about money and the standard of the SPL etc. We cannot use the SPL as an excuse. Scotland should be the equal of Ukraine or Greece or Portugal - thier leagues are equally pesh.
Finalists
Italy 9
Spain 7
Germany 4
Holland/France 2
England/Portugal 1
Semi-finalists
Spain 12
Italy 11
Germany 7
France 6
England 5
Holland 3
Portugal 2
Ukraine/Greece 1
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Id say its pretty tricky to play nice attractive passing football when (a) Livingston have 9/10 men behind the ball/on 18 yard line for the entire game, (b) kick us up in the air at any possible opportunity, and (c) we're getting towards the end of the season and half the team are carrying niggly injuries.
Far better to accept that we got the 3 point when the huns were down, BBJ got his confidence back and were in the driving seat again. And dont forget its only a few weeks since Livi took points at the huns ground. If we can beat them 4-0 away from home and barely get out of 2nd gear I say bring on the huns!
Bellamy needs to work on putting a decent cross into the box. Not an isolated occurrence either by any means, as anyone who watches Wales games will tell you. Still hope we sgn him though as he can only develop.
As for the guy who would rather go shopping at asda than watch celtic...go for it, and give someone who might actually appreciate the chance to get to all the games a chance. Sometimes you dont know you're born.
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Anonymous 10.03am:
Can I have your season ticket if you don't want it?
Everyone else:
Do you all realise or appreciate the excrutiating pressure that these guys are under to win EVERY game? Normally it only takes one or two slip-ups over the course of a season and it could all be over bar the shouting.
Compare this to say Real Madrid in Spain or Schalke in Germany, who have lost 8 or 9 games each, yet are still in with a realistic chance of winning their respective championship.
With this sort of intense pressure mistakes come more easily and relaxed, assured, attractive football is much harder to produce.
Give the Bhoys a break and back them all the way to the FINAL whistle in EVERY remaining game. If you don't want to be there I can assure you there is somebody else who does...
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Taggsybhoy
Paul67, this is for you, I'm not sure if you got my email. Ex player would be great (Henrik would be alright)and I'm all for an inclusive event.
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Paul 67 - Is there a CQN Player of the Year Dance/Bevvy session
on the cards?
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I'm afraid I can't quite equate CL Pot 2 to the standard of football/team we have at present. As a few people have said we might get away with winning the league but that's only because Rangers are so poor. Cast your mind back to October when we were laughing at Rangers. Since then they have lost Klos & Boumsong and we have gained Bellamy yet winning the league is still a struggle.
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Hello
I like peas.
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I was in a good mood about last nights football until i read some of the negative comments on this site.
we win,go top of the league,score 4 and BBJ gets 3.plus they bastards from edinburgh are beaten at home by the hibees.
forget about the performances between now and the end of the season, as long as we win the league i couldnt give a monkeys.
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Anon. 9.27
NO. There is just no excuse for eating that many pies.
What are you going to do when your office 'squeeze' goes hightailing it with Dr Death? Move on to Pocahontas for intimate lunches? ; )
(apologies to CQN users for the aside)
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bigchipsuk 11.24
i think you have missed the point the reason they experience excrutiating pressure is because they do not press home their advantage of
1. being in front
2. having much better players
3. making the game safe
i did not critise their play i critised they application to win, would pushing up the park 10 metres and pressurising the oppostion be too much to expect, by all accounts we gave up space and allowed livingston an opportunity to take the game to us. positive play wins games and leagues not a long ball up the park.
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So we score the goal and sit back and hope we win?? or is it score the goal, allow livvy to come at us for Bellamy to exploit the space this would create.
Playing better can also be playing smarter.
Long ball up the park, can translate to putting the ball into space for Bellamy to chase, get the free kick, corner or throw in and take advantage of our dead ball expertise.
Tim Tim
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I'm 99% certain that the 'anonymous' posters on here slating the team and big BBJ in spite of what happened Tue night / Wed night are Rangers fans. Either that or they need to go and see a Doctor. Lets face it - if we had been allowed to call the outcome of the Old Firm games this week before they took place it would more or less have been the way they actually turned out. The only people who would still be moanin have just got to be Rangers fans.
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Delighted with the win (scoring 4 was a huge bonus) and with the welcome turn of events over at Castle Greyskull.
Getting very interesting now and we need a big performance on Saturday to heap the pressure on Eck (who is now starting to become very amusing with his pathetic attempts to declare the huns are getting a raw deal from the refs).
Only thing about the performance that worries me is that its an indicator of our inability to change gear. If we fall behind in any of these games we will struggle to turn them around (a la Hearts at CP). There's nothing we can do about that now though - we just need to wait till the summer (I hope).
CMON THE HOOPS
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Emjay
You said it's the consistency which has been missing this season. I disagree. All this season we’ve been consistently poor. That said I’ll settle for efficient till the end of the season to win the league but next year?-no more please.
Paul
I still believe that Hartson should be sold at the first available opportunity ie the right price . If he’s been playing with an injury then its MON who should be taken to task for always playing “safety first” How on earth will we ever know if the others can do better if they never get the chance. So great that BBJ scored three last night . I’d much prefer a striker who gets one in each of three games and who is mobile enough to create chances for others That’s not Hartson.
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DavieL,
I too was on a high after going top, winning 4 nil, almost choking on my tea with laughter seeing Poorshow missing an open goal from 5 yards and seeing Hibs stuff the East Coast Cousins of William, but some of the comments here are a disgrace - you guys have short memories, we were gettin sttuffed in the Anglo Scottish Cup by the likes of Burnley "playing the Glasgow Celtic way", we were being humped at home by Dunfermline and Partick - remember the feeling when we were holding out for a 1 nil win against Airdrie in the Cup final - we were pish but didn't care cause we WON !! MON has created a team which plays to its strengths and 4 league titles out of 5 seasons (should've been 5 in a row) is testamony to his talents and those of his team. The team can play fast flowing football, when it's allowed to (by the opposition) - if anyone wants to chuck CP they are NOT supporters and good riddance, probably one of the mob who leave early to "miss the rush". This title is too important - we need to put the Huns back in their place. Mark my words - the board WILL release funds and MON WILL make 3 or 4 key signings.
Oh, by the way if you think football in the seventies and eighties was a fast flowing attacking spectacle watch some of the games on Celtic TV they were dreadful at times, the current Celtic team would easily beat them all.
DavieL
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RIGHT FOR THE LAST TIME PEOPLE...Skeletors pad in He-Man was Snake Mountain... He-man got his powers from Castle Grey Skull ..although I remember him living in the Palace... anymore incorrect referencess to 80's cartoons that i grew up on and the offender will be buying a round at any get together
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For allt hose who are criticing the negative posters I have a a few questions:
Do you think we played well last night?
Do you think Nacho Novo is a good player? (after all he is the 2nd top scorer so he must be good)
Do you think if people choose to vent their frustrations on a blog site instead of at the game they are any less a supporter than you?
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I think some people are splitting hairs here. Brilliant that Hartson scored three goals, lets not take anything away from that, however is he the man to lead us to the next stage in Europe next year. Personally I don't think so.
However, for now everyone should be getting behind him, not here where its about debate, but on Saturday and at all the games from now on. No matter what the score is on Saturday, STAY. Don't leave early. If we are three up stay and applaud. If we are losing give them support. It must be so demoralising to the players that thousands leave early. What must they think? I know every once in a while everyone needs to do it but it seems more prevalent than ever before.
Also, we do need to play better. Agreed. It's quite dull sometimes (though with the exception of the Hearts match I thought it was getting better, more the Celtic way etc). I am sure EVERYONE would however agree that the offer of six 1-0 victories that bored us all rigid for the rest of the league games would result in a hand that was bitten off. For now lets just win. The Celtic way we can worry about later.
Finally a wee story from a mate who's a decent Hearts supporter. Apologies if heard before.
Justin Fashanu was taking a corner for Hearts in front of the Hearts fans when they started barracking him. 'Haw Fashanu, yir a dirty black,English Gay bas***d'
Good encouragement eh?
My mate says he nearly wet himself when Fashanu turns round and shouts right back at him.....'And I'm a catholic' !!
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Amused by the number of people who are 'better' supporters because they want Celtic to win at all costs.
When did we lose track of trying to play entertaining football?
Entertainment... Do some of you guys actually remember watching Celtic and being entertained... We bludgeon teams.
Thankfully we seem to have a couple of talents at the Club (McGeady - can't get in the side & Bellamy - how long will he be here?) The rest are on superstar wages but are not superstar players... we pay wages that exceed every other club bar Rangers by more than 10 times... Are they really that good?
On Hartson, he is just another example of MON's persistence with his 'chosen' - Thompson, Lennon, Sutton, Hartson... On the teamsheet whatever their fitness or performances... Indeed, often making other players play out of position to accomodate them.
IMO they are all getting too old and are overpaid. At most I would have 2 in the team - Thompson/Lennon and Sutton - but would be surprised if anyone would touch them at the top Premiership wages we pay.
Frankly, it's painfully boring at times watching Celtic and that is reflected in the poor atmosphere.
Still it must be very satisfying knowing your a better supporter 'cos you don't care and we won.
M
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I think the consensus is that it's all about results at this stage of the season, but i think if the standard of play doesn't improve next season then we have every right to raise a few questions. Out of this full season i've enjoyed the victories over Rangers, away in Barcelona & away wins at Hibs & Hearts. Outside of that our standards have dropped. Maybe the loss of Henrik will explain that to a certain extent. I feel the fans deserve to be watching better football than is on show, but hopefully MON can bring in the right people in the summer. Bellamy, Ryan Giggs, Paul Hartley,Alexander Hleb, Wilhellmsen, Phil Neville & a Goalkeeper
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i prefer sainsbury's myself.
anyway, in reference to the only non bickering post out of the previous 44, after we play aberdeen we'll have played 17 home, and 16 away games, so we will have 3 away games to come (and rangers 2, as they've only played 16 homes games so far.)
obviously one of those away games is at ibrox (24th april)
we've played hibs away twice, and hearts at home twice, so expect hibs at home and a trip to tynecastle.
aberdeen we will also have played twice at home, so get yer wellies on for a trip to the hill of dung.
finally, we've played motherwell at home twice, but ICT away twice, although, as it looks like they'll finish sixth, it's most likely that whoever finishes in the other spot will be the other visitors to celtic park. leaving the rather bizarre (and grossly unfair) scenario of hosting motherwell 3 times in a season.
as for the other lot... they've got their home game against us, they (should) host aberdeen and hearts, and be away to hibs (if the fixtures work out in two home, two away for the season order.) they however have had two visits already to fir park, so if motherwell make it they'll presumably need to go there again. as for ICT, i'm stumped, i can only find two results between the teams this season, 1-1 at pitoddrie on december 5th, and 1-1 on march 5th at ibrox. but most likely, they'll be taking a trip to the frozen tundra should the other jags get sixth.
so, ermmm, celtic home, hibs and motherwell/ICT, away rangers, aberdeen and hearts
rangers home, celtic, aberdeen and hearts, away hibs and motherwell/ICT.
not really fancying that run in. although, one could mention we've picked up 41 points from 16 away games thus far this season, as opposed to 39 from the same number of home games (wierdly). rangers, unfortunately have a rather respectable home record, although, they are on a glorious losing streak there (of, ermmm, one, although, guess who their next visitors are)
NB, the information contained herein relates only to common sense and logic. any association with what the SPL actually do is most likely purely coincidental.
jock tamson
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I get frustrated with the amount of criticism towards the team on here, but I don't think I'm a better supporter.
I do think a lot of the whingers are either very young or have short memories. I believe a view should be taken on MON's total time to date with the club and the same with the big players during his time here. They would be Henrik, Balde, Sutton, Petrov, Agathe, Thomson & Hartson. Every one of these guys have been magnificent over their time with the club, but all have had lapses of form at various times. The OTT criticism )and sometimes during matches, vitriol) at Agathe, Thomson and recently Hartson just beggars belief.
Obviously Henrik has left and only when he look back in history on this season will we truly reflect how much we miss him - it certainly doesn't seem to be taken on board much just now in terms of making allowances for the adjustment without him.
One of the biggest problems without him means we have only 1 proven high goal scorer at the club - BBJ. For a moment, forget his lack of mobility and fitness and ask yourself who exactly can we bring in next year who will be guaranteed to score as many as him. Because the one thing he will always do is score plenty goals.
As regards the overall standard of football, I for one have a few more years of being delighted with the combination of success/playing style before I'm ready to go back to the lovely one touch tippy tappy stuff that we had with Burns/Brady/Barnes and losing out consistently to the huns in terms of trophies and Old Firm games.
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Just a little something for all the BBJ-bashers to read (taken from the BBC Sport website). Would you rather have Dwight Yorke than BBJ?...
"Birmingham owner David Sullivan has launched a stinging attack on Dwight Yorke, accusing him of not trying.
The 33-year-old striker is expected to leave St Andrews for Sydney FC by the end of the week and Sullivan claims he has abused his time at Birmingham.
"Yorke is being paid £20,000-a-week and has not been a successful signing. He is a straggler which is not enthralling for the fans," said Sullivan."
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Paul
Just a point on the geography of Edinburgh. You go 'along' Grogie road not 'up' it. Nevertheless, HoM supporters may find themselves 'up' s**t creek!
HT
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BigChipsUk - i think the majority of fans appreciate the value of players like Hartson/Thompson/Lennon etc have been over the past few years to the cause, but there is a real danger that MON thinks they can play every single game at a high level. For example Alan Thompson has been off form for some time, yet MON persists playing him whereas a spell out of the team might have been a better option for both him & the team. It's the same situation with Hartson who has allegdly been playing with an ankle knock. The reason we lost the Scottish Cup Final a few years back against the huns was because MON insisted in playing Lambert & Sutton who were injured. I'm not being negative at all, but i am slightly anxious that MON cannot see the obvious when the team are playing a bit flat.
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Anon 3.13pm.
Just a point on the geography of Edinburgh... it's Gorgie Road. Perhaps you're still a bit Grogie after your celebrations last night.
8-)
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Just read that Man U are about to bid £5million for De la Pena of Espanyol
Was that the same De La Pena that MON had on trial in last year's january transfer window?
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Great result last night - nothing else matters right now. Congrats to BBJ on his hat trick - he deserved it for the run he made in the first half to get on the end of Bellamy's square ball across the box. BBJ had to make up 25 yds to get there in time and fair play to the big man he made it and could have scored but for a timely intervention from Rubio.
It is beginning to look as if we only have to avoid defeat at Ibrox to give ourselves a great chance to win the league - not a bad position to be in but it has not been our best season - we need to improve next year. Trouble is that as long as Thomson, Hartson, Sutton, Balde and Lennon are around, they will ALL be in the first eleven when fit, thereby restricting the chances for the promising younger players. All these guys are good players on their day and have served us well but my point is that it will be hard for us to improve greatly when they are all playing.
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Great result last night.
I laughed when i heard the pre match comments from MON it was absolute typical MON man management he as much as said that John you need to get your act together it was classic MON.
And wat does BBJ do score a hat-trick.
And if it's true that BBJ was carrying an ankle injury sorry for the criticising big man keep banging in the goals.
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Congrats to BBJ on his hat-trick. Hope people get off his back Saturday. Im more concerned at MON's use of the squad on matchday. Bringing on McGeady with two minutes to go made no sense.The game was won at 2-0 substitutes should have been used then.
Mayo D
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Belfast Bhoy,
we know He-man lives in Castle Grey Skull in the cartoons, however in real life it went like this.
Skeletor with the aid of his evil axis (the SFA and Tabloid Media) kicked wee man's ass. Because CGS was better than snake mountain (somewhere in ayrshire, or perhaps larkhall) they moved in and entrenched themselves forever.
Anyway, it doesn't matter to me. They both sound if they would suit TFOD!!
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I don't think it is wrong that some people are on here criticising the quality of play we are producing at the moment,I just think the timing is wrong.If we make no signings in the summer for the CL campaign then I don't see the standard of play improving but that is for the summer and not now.
The eleven chosen last night were chosen for a reason : winning the game at all costs.With the exception of Marshall, they were all players with lots of experience and who MON feels he can rely on.After the euphoria of Tannadice,I think he got his fingers burnt at the Hearts game and has decided that it's safety first till the end of the season.
I've criticised out safety first play here myself but this does not mean I would go to CP and shout abuse or boo or leave early as has been suggested by some posters.The two things do not necessarily go together.What I would agree on is that we need to get behind the players,win the double and then look at what is required for next season.
BankieBhoy
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So it seems that if you criticise a performance you are no longer a 'true' supporter of the club. What complete bollocks, these same people claiming this will probably be apoplectic on here if we lose against the huns and lose the league. As for the 'if you don't like it get lost cause you would be no loss' I think that is the attitude that a certain mob across the water used to have. I believe also that the waiting lists (for both clubs) are absolute drivel. There are certain undeniable problems at Parkhead.
1. MON has wasted a shitload of money on abysmal players. I believe it cost us in the region of forty grand to get rid of Petta. Disgrace.
2. We have one stand out central midfielder - Petrov who is box to box. MON plays him on the right hand side to accommodate Lennon & Sutton. Disgrace. Play your best players in their best position.
3. We still do not have a decent left sided defender after 5 years.
4. Paul Lambert is still being paid wages by the club. Situation - I go to my boss and say, "I want to do a course boss, it's abroad, so I'll shuttle over there and do it while I should be here playing and training. Oh, and I'll be leaving here next year." Boss - "sounds good to me" WASTE OF MONEY!!!
I don't personally believe that MON will get any significant sums in the Summer. If it is Bellamy then that's his whack. I also feel that his reputation down south will be on a downward slide if we do not get 3 points away in the CL. Look at Liverpool, bog standard English team, big defenders, reliant on one guy (Gerrard). Can do the business away from home. Semi Final CL.
Also, a query Paul - With regard to MON's rolling contract, if he leaves midway through a season do we get full compensation for that year or bugger all?
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I believe the rolling contract means that a full years compensation is always required if he wants to leave for another club regardless of when this happens. Alternatively he could work out his notice period (1 Year)and leave for nothing. Knowing Celtic we still wouldn't be able to organise a new manager within the year and TB would be back as Caretaker.
Don't fret now, when we beat them at Ibrox all the dodgy / boring performances will be forgotten
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Some truly bizarre arguements going on here mostly involving people all called 'anonymous'. A hat trick for a player low in confidence, a 4-0 away win, and going back to the top of a league championship on a knife edge are all superb. Anyone who thinks differently needs to smell the coffee.
Paul - the content of your site is usually excellent (today is an exception but you're not to blame for that) - but as I've asked before, is there any way you could look at the design of your site. Having to scroll through 100+ comments, about half of which are made by an anonymous poster, does the site no justice. Also previous topics effectively get abandoned the minute a new one appears. I realise it wouldn't be easy and I for one would not wish to see the site eveolve into something similar to the others available.
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I see Quinn is making positive noises today about keeping Bellamy. He also says something that confuses me. Perhaps one of the more financially tuned-in readers can clarify. He claims that O'Neill has had money to spend, but he's spent much of it renewing contracts. Surely unless these contracts are improved, there is no increase in expenditure, and therefore no additional money spent?
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well well what a crew today win 4 nil and listen to all the killjoys, handing in their season books,shopping at asda, lighten up were top of the league with only 6 games to go.
To all the part time supporters, when you decide to leave 15 mins from the end, please leave immediately,don't decide to stand in the stairways because we are on the attack and block us fulltime supporters views. Granted I have not enjoyed all the matches this year but I am in my seat at the end of every game, the team needs supporting not jeering booing and half empty stadium each home game.
Another point for the part timers would you pay £20-25 at the cinema and leave 15 mins before the end? No? why leave CP then???
GalaTim.
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Man Utd have announced that Glaizer has made a new and improved offer to buy the club (North west tonight news). The offer includes a promise to make £20M available for new players and to continue with the stadium upgrade. It also has £200M less debt than the previous bid. (£500M down to £300M). Paul, do you think this will be enough for the Man U board to accept? If not do you think there is any chance of Glazier looking at us? and would we welcome him?
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It seems everyone on this forum agrees we aren't in great shape at the moment. The only real dispute is between those who say forget about that for the moment and concentrate on winning the league and those who are airing their worries now.
JimV
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Link to BBC report on the Glazer fresh bid
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4446249.stm
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Shammy said...
I don't think we are giving the players enough credit for last nights result. Remember Livi are fighting for their lives, it was away from home, a 4-0 win. OK the football wasn't pretty but it was the first league game after the defeat against Hearts so nerves played a part. With the Huns getting beat it shows how much the other teams are fighting. It is after all 11 against 11.
Keep the faith, let's get behind the bhoys and let them know we will support them evermore..!!
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Villareal have been knocked out of the UEFA Cup tonight. 2nd seeds for the Champions' League (assuming we qualify) now looking a very good bet.
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Bobby Ewing, your stats make stark reading. That Chelsea have found it so easy to win the league this season tells it’s own story.
Taggsybhoy, was in a meeting all day today. Got your email, thanks and will reply.
Cambuslangisareality, Taggsybhoy has booked a Celtic Quick News Open Golf day at Aberdour Golf Club on Friday 15th July. I have not published anything yet, however, the date is in the diary and an open invite to all will be published in the next few days.
Plan is for a round of Golf in the afternoon followed by a dinner with speakers. I am not a golfer myself & I expect some others will want to come along for the dinner etc. There will be a bus picking up in the West. Hope you come along.
Old Jack Section 123, I know what you mean, but remember, they are not machines, and even though they are better players than their opponents, every Livingston player is a fulltime professional who will be equally fit, if not fitter, than the Celtic players.
At times, especially away from home, this will mean grinding out performances.
Neg Anon, I watched the Rangers United game on TV last night & they were really dreadful. I think Martin will plan not to make any defensive mistakes and wait on them making them.
Great to hear from you in such positive tones!
Derbyshirebhoy, I know where you are coming from and I am not going to argue with you, but… the man has just scored a hat-trick and now is the time for us to respect what he done last night and support them all until the end of the season.
DavieL
Excellent comment. I cannot believe what is said about the ‘good old days’ sometimes (and I am not meaning the Stein era, I mean when we played pretty, but ineffective football).
Rumoid, voice of reason as usual.
Thedominie, excellent Fashanu story.
HT, thanks for your studious contributions today. I will change my assessment of the gradient.
Cdmcc, the £47k mentioned in the interim accounts for Petta represents his wages for the month of January. When we parted with him in November we paid him up until the end of Jan. Not a bad settlement for a player who was under contract and did not have a club to go to.
MON will not leave mid-season. Agree not every pound has been well spent, it’s not easy doing the big job.
Bryce, keeping the tone of the site positive on an ongoing basis will be difficult, especially when people take criticisms personally.
I posted a (short) story on Saturday just to change the debate away from religion, which was boring us all I am sure.
The site design has more to do with what you get for free with Blogger than a considered plan, not sure of a good way to improve things.
What I am sure of, is that the site will fail if the good contributors do not step in and keep the tone of things regulated. For this, thanks to all.
Garbhoy, I have been out of commission today, this is the first I have heard of the Glazer bid. I expect it to go through and do not expect his to look to Celtic.
Thanks.
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Green and white hoops of Portugal sink sad Souness's sorry lot...
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And the Geordie Huns get beat by the Portugese Hoops....can this week get any better? Lets hope so with 3pts and a few cheeky goals against the dons.....
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Off post. There's a pepperami day planned for April 24th at Ibrox.
Make sure you bring yours along.
http://69.93.29.242/hb/showthread.php?t=83757
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Camsalngman
Apologies for not getting back to you earlier, though someone has already answered your question that ‘bum-on-seat’ money is around 50% of our income, which is way less than top clubs from the major leagues.
Manage expectations? Me? That is what the board do for themselves. Looking back I have explained where the money goes and why we don’t have much. Looking forward I differ somewhat from what you will hear from the board.
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Biggotry taken to an all time low. Racism against pepperami's is just not on, just cause the tasty meat snacks wear a green jacket. As Celtic football Club, a club open to all, we embrace the taste (and wrappers) of pepperami.
Free The Pepperami's, their day will come (April 24th).....
I'm sure they'd be welcome at Augusta too.
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Paul - I not even going to comment on Quinn's latest rammblings - suffice to say he is saying nothing
(damn - said I wasn't going to comment)
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BBJ got abused off "fellow suppporters"
I've not posted here in a while but i think it'll be...without a doubt the best goalscorer in scotland!
interestin...to know what you think about him now?
Paul McStay missed the penalty
against Raith but he's still a hero in my eyes
hail hail
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Anonymous 10:13 And the Geordie Huns get beat by the Portugese Hoops....can this week get any better? Lets hope so with 3pts and a few cheeky goals against the dons.....
OH NO! Now the Huns will call us anti English, racist, Fenian, Papish so and so's.
Well done BBJ, hope he gets even better when fully fit, fingers crossed for four at the Hun game.
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Franco, people on this site are talk about BBJ with a wider view. We know he will score goals in the SPL but we need a european standard. Surely, you have been worried of his lack of fitness. I for one, am certainly still behind the view that a forward who will be in the box at the same time as Bellamy will score more goals next season.
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Franco, people on this site are talk about BBJ with a wider view. We know he will score goals in the SPL but we need a european standard. Surely, you have been worried of his lack of fitness. I for one, am certainly still behind the view that a forward who will be in the box at the same time as Bellamy will score more goals next season.
