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That was a party political statement on behalf of the Labour party :-)
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We all know what Mr. Howard means when he says he wants to control immigration....!
I think I know exactly what he is thinking....the reason why his policy is expressed in that fashion is that to express it properly would breach various laws!!!
This country can't be daft enough to elect this twat...can it???
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OK - up and running now.
Don't see the need for a mini rant against Howard.
Surely as a football supporter he's as entitled to his opinion and as entitled to voice his as any of us are – even if it means calling for the managers heid.
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Howard is a right-wing extremist/racist bar-steward masquerading as a as a barbed wire cuddly tory -(just like his party)
The man "supports" liverpool and everton - says it all really.
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Nice to see that MON is still considered a 'talent' doon south, despite his numerous mistakes this season.
But then Howard has to have Scotland pointed out to him on a map.....'nuff said.
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I live in E1 London, home of the Ali G "Respect" Party. Gorgeous George fronts it.....and he's a Tim!!!!
I like to tell my local "immigrant" friends that the first Black person to play for Scotland was alos a Celtic Player...it shows we are a club open to all.
Anyway, does anyone know how the injuries are looking for Sutty, Bellars and Didler?
Hail Hail!
We shall not be moved!
Martybhoy
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Bellars will feature V Hearts.
Sutton will be fit for Sunday V Sheep and Diddy will face a late fitness test before Sunday.
All of that from various sources.
B
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What's happening Paul? Your most recent articles have been written as if the season has been completed. Most recently its been what are we going to do with the £2M windfall were going to get for winning the league, then its how about renaming Celtic park, and now its more or less as the guy said earlier, a PPB on behalf of the Labour Party. Have you not noticed Paul that we are about to embark on the most critical part of the season with an off-form un-fit injury hit squad, and the majority of our supporters are about as nervous as Turkeys on Christmas Eve? Normally a great website but definitely way off the mark recently. Great news by the way from Blennon if its true re Bellars being back for the Hearts game. Big M.
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Seem to remember that the first Black international footballer did indeed play for Scotland, read it in one of the papers one day. So I did a google and found this.
"Andrew Watson is the man. Born in 1857 in the British colony of Guyana, Watson played for Maxwell and Parkgrove before moving to Queen’s Park where he gained three international caps for Scotland and three Cup winner’s medals, all before Wharton signed for Preston"
(http://www.scottishleague.net/back%20of%20the%20net1.htm)
No mention of him playing for us I am afraid. Far cooler to point out that Gil Scott Heron's old man played for us.(http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/profiles/scottherongil.shtml)
RugbyBhoy
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Celtic News, not lazy journalism......eh?
Whilst I agree with your sentiments, can you get on with posting a decent article rather than the above mush.
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I hope yer right BLennon – we missed all 3 of them at the Hibs debacle.
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Bellars is definitely out. Not sure on Didi. And Sutty is allegedly going to be available for selection, as is Stan. But will the crowd be the extra man... or will they have more pressing engagements at ½ past 4 on Sunday afternoon?
Incidentally, to repeat my earlier question: If Bayern offer £5M for Bobo the Clown, should we take it and buy (say) Naysmith and a decent young centre back, or perhaps use the money to pay for Bellars (if he decided to stay)? And what of the news that Stuart Downing is stalling over his new deal at Boro? I wonder if he'd fancy pitting his undoubted skills in the CL...
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I have supported Celtic for 35 years and today I will be voting Conservative for the first time.
Does this mean that I have to rip my season ticket up Paul?
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Cheers B lennon, I had hope Bellamy would be fit for Sunday :-(
Sutty is always a bonus and didler would help too. Thought Beattie should start as he did well on Saturday.
Rugbybhoy - maybe I was wrong but the person I was refering to was Paul (?) Wilson the winger in the 70's. Maybe he wasn't the first black person but I think he was the first of Indian origin (E1 and Tower hamlets is the home of Brick Lane - lots of Indians / Pakistani etc). This was also mentioned in a recent Times article. I was just trying to to recruit a few new tims to the fold.
On another note I had "debate" with a plonker (village idiot) from Blackburn (where else eh?) who tried to label us as bigots following the recent Auld Old Firm game. It just goes to show how we are portrayed. We all have to do our bit to spread the Celtic philosophy and spirit. Keep plugging away bhoys and ghirls.
Hail Hail
Martybhoy
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Some people just dont seem to appreciate your diversity Paul!
Such is the intense nature of this week, I for one appreciate a bit of distraction. I have been carrying a sinking feeling with me since the Hibs game, I only hope the Celtic players feel the same sense of annoyance at last weeks result.
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Paul,
Maybe Michael Howard's political stance has been clouded by some of Houllier's signings.
In making it harder for non Europeans to gain working entry to the UK, then it would have made it harder for Houllier to sign some of the garbage that he did.
Cronin Prescott
Morrisons
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Martybhoy fair enough wasn't being @rsey or anything. I didn't really know about Paul Wilson as the only pics I have seen of him were black and white so thanks for that info there.
Just, I had a talk in the pub a few months ago down here about racism in Scotland (The Mark Walters incident etc) as I have recently moved back here after living in Edinburgh for a long time, and this Queens park guy was mentioned and then I saw a thing in the paper about him.
Hail Hail
RugbyBhoy
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Michael Howard - what a nice man eh.
Its your duty to get out there and vote to stop these racists getting in to power. Tories and huns - one and the same.
Anon at 1.40 - good for you - keep taking the pills
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come on guys, if someone wants to vote Tory, then fair enough. I wont be voting today (cant yet), so you'll forgive me if i'm more interested in the possibility of losing back-to-back games.
This website is not for politics, but for footballing debate
the Tim
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It was nice to see Celtic's best ever 'immigrant' back in Glasgow for a much deserved honorary doctorate. As always his comments to the media were pitched perfectly.
An inspirational footballer who for all of his skill became one of the best players ever to grace Celtic Park because of a HUGE work ethic which put less talented players to shame. A work ethic shared much more often than not by many would be immigrants to this country who would fall foul of Mr Howard's thinly disguised racism.
No better role model. And he believes we'll win the title!!!
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Did you know that Celtic were the first European club to play an Asian?
Neither did I until this morning. There is a rather natty T-shirt available on this site commemorating the fact: www.sixtee7.com
Worth a look for an interesting fact.
The CSA are looking for help to arrange a stadium display for encourage the team against Aberdeen. They are meeting at Gate 2 at noon on SATURDAY if anyone can make it along.
Thanks corrib04, diversity is indeed the richness of life – even for Anon 1.40!
Realgreener, I would have left Howard alone if he left Celtic alone.
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I've been looking at the past results (sad, I know), and have noted the following:
Celtic have three SPL games remaining, and if they win them all (even assuming the FoD win all theirs) Celtic will be Champions again.
These games are against Aberdeen at home, Hearts away and Motherwell away.
In the last 8 home meetings with Aberdeen, Celtic have won 6 and lost just one when it actually mattered - they had already won the title when the other slip-up occurred. Celtic have scored over 3 goals a game and conceded less than 1 a game.
In the last 10 away meetings with Hearts (there are some cup games in there) Celtic have won 8 and lost just one. This fell immediately prior to the UEFA Cup SF 2nd leg, and the players' minds were clearly on other things that day. The drawn match came after the title had been clinched last season. In these games Celtic have managed almost 2½ goals a game and conceded less than 1 per game.
The least positive outlook is against Motherwell, with 5 wins from the last 8 aways. We drew there last season after clinching the title, but had previously lost 1-2 and drawn 3-3, albeit both in the early part of the respective seasons. Celtic have managed 2½ goals a game, and Motherwell are the only of these teams against whom we have conceded more than a goal a game. But 5 wins and just 1 defeat from 8 away games is still a good return. And Motherwell are making positive noises about letting the trophy be presented after the match, and hosting the fans' title party. Perhaps they are planning to "lie down" for us... Hey, I'd better wash my mouth out!
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Paul,
While I agree with your sentiments with regards to Howard (he'd say and do anything to appeal to the lowest of the low) I don't think here is the place to promote your politics. More especially in this week when most of us are far more concerned about how OUR team will fare on sunday. The one thing they need more than anything is total backing from first to last. (here's hoping Bayern don't get disenchanted with Bobo, like we have. Here's hoping he plays a blinder from now until the end of the season and they take him off our hands for a sizable fee!!)
Parkheadcumsalford.
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Paul et al,
this has been asked on the BBC pages by a pretty sound guy and I know that it has been discussed here before.
Would Everton going into the Champions League Seedings and Liverpool as champions not qualifying help our hopes of Pot 2 seeding?
Rugbybhoy
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RugbyBhoy: YES.
If Liverpool get in they will be seeded above Celtic. Everton will not be.
The following web page carries the up-to-date situation:
http://www.geocities.com/ricardo3941/ECL0405/cl0506.htm
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Rugbybhoy,
We are now safe in the top 16 qualifiers. As such it suits Celtic better if Liverpool qualify and Everton do not, as Everton would be un-seeded in the third qualifying round and might be drawn against Celtic, whereas we could not be drawn against Liverpool.
Would rather avoid the likes of Everton, much better off with a Swiss club or something like that :-)
I am backing your info Bigchipsuk. Impressed by Motherwell, a team never known for their Celtic leanings.
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Cheers BCS
Passed on the message on the Beeb
Rugbybhoy
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Cheers paul
Thanks for clearing it up with me, hope this guy been comes and posts over here as he seems to be the only guy on the Beeb today talking Celtic and not worrying about TFOD.
dropped as big a hint as possible as he does talk and ask the sort of questions that i have enjoyed reading and taking part in on these pages.
Cheers
Rugbybhoy
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I'm interested in the almost unanimous view that we should sell Bobo. In the interests of balance can I ask what Bayern, one of the best teams in Europe, see in him that we don't. Also, if reports are to be believed, Bayern are conducting a fairly widespread hunt for a central defender. If they sign Bobo does it not follow that he is the best option available to them? In that case, who do we sign as a replacement?
GM
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GM... without knowing too much about Bayern's team... I think they had two ageing centre backs (somethin like Linke and Worns) and I think one of them is retiring / bossie, the thinkn behind bobo is that (a)Fans overall tend to like his "enthusiasm" i.e. "bobo gehen zu getz zie" (there or there abouts) (b) bobo at £3-5 mill is a lot cheaper than another cultured centreback at £10-15 mill (c) as he is not coming from a big serie a, la liga, premiership league his wages shouldnt be an overly big issue (see prev. article on german club finances) (d) they have commented on his aerial ability (think the drogba header) (e) they hope that by playing beside players who can pass the ball he will know his job (i.e. get anything in way of ball give to someone who can play) and stick to it
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Paul, excellent topic.
Celtic fans are generally decent people. If decent people don't vote (albeit that the choice is not always great) the worst sort gain power.
Benitez/Howard/Larsson my thoughts exactly. Well done.
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Liverpool wont qaulify even if they win it. Epl looking after thier own trough top four qaulify. Davies to run the line at the cup final dogs abuse is not the term for it.
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Hi all
Did Mr Wilson put you up to this article Paul? I wondered what the point of him being at Celtic was.
The only acceptible vote is of course to VOTE GREEN!!!
On the Bobo front, if we offload Bobo to Bayern for £3m> it will be the best bit of business MON has done since he bought Sutton (excluding pulling the rabbit out of the hat with the Camara/Bellamy swap....)
Havent wrote since the Hibs game (it took me a while to recover)...the thought I had when I left the stadium was that the majority of our fans dont deserve to win the league...lets hope only the right 30,000 turn up on Sunday and everyone gets behind the team...
And just in case people missed Pauls posting earlier there is a brilliant(even if i say so myself) new website launched;
www.sixtee7.com
Go check it out once youve posted a comment here of course...
(Promise thats the last plug Paul....)
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Glasgow 1950 1,100,000 people
Glasgow 2000 635,000 people
Too true we have an immigrant problem: we're 400,000 short in this city alone.
First black international player was indeed Andrew Watson: captained Scotland - won 3 caps. I should know seeing as I discovered him ten years ago :-)
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Sorry Paul67, but this was a stupid post. Howard isn't going to win anyway, so I don't see the point of attacking him over the fact that he once acknowledged MON's ability by suggesting he be hired for the club Michael Howard supports.
As for your wrongheaded comment about immigration - by "that kind of immigrant" - do you mean the illegal kind?
All in all disappointing little rant from you, maybe you've been spending too much time with the disgusting Frank McAveety.
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gedboy - short of what exactly? Do we really need more overcrowding, pollution, competition for jobs, rising property prices...?
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Philvis, you may like to consider this.
People used to start work at about sixteen, work til they were sixty five and die in their early seventies. Therefore they worked for nearly two thirds of their time on this planet. This allowed them to effectively pay for the other third.
Nowadays what with more students , people starting work later, early retirement and people easily living to their eighties they spend less than half their life working for the other half. the pensioners become a burden for us now as we do for our children when we all retire. That's the choice most people are choosing just now so quite rightly we need to deal with it.
Me, I'd just like plenty more people helping so I'm very much with Gedboy on this.
PS Henrik Larsson drove several big flashy polluting cars, took the centre forwards job away from the likes of Wayne Biggins and paid a fortune for his house.
Maybe we didn't need him but I thought he was magic!!
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To those who were quick to decry the content of the latest post as largely irrelavent, take a step back and appreciate some irony.
Tony Blair is about to win a historic third term for the Labour party. This is something that has never been achieved since the party's inception in the early 1900's. Despite this, however, his popularity is probably at an all time low. People are questioning his tactics, judgement and general suitability for the job.
Jump from politics to the current pressure on MON and you have a similar situation. A number of us are questioning his judgement, tactics and whether it is time for him to move on. What we are not doing is actually appreciating what he has done for us and how he has taken the club forward.
Unfortunately, Tony Blair and MON are in the same boat in that neither will be truly appreciated until they are gone. I expect Blair to be gone in a couple of years. I hope MON will be around for a good deal longer!!
GM
p.s. lest anyone think I'm a card carrying memeber of the Labour Party, this is the first election I've voted in since I was 18 (18 years ago). Today I voted Lib Dem in protest against the fiasco in Iraq.
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gents,
lost a drunken bet (£100) 2 yrs ago to a bloody englishman (big music fan) who tried to convince me that the grandaddy of hip hop's old man played for us (Gil Scott Heron). Very humiliating when proved to be wrong.
Paul,
Agree with your sentiment and that of rumoid. EVERYONE SHOULD VOTE GREEN. I voted Sinn Fein.
Regards
Yogi
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Greetings, Paul67 et al,
Normally Poitics is a subject that I studiously eschew.
However,("Oh! Oh! Here it comes... I was afraid of that!")From Vito ,showing agst--- but I must take this opportunity to pass along some words of wisdom.
If a youth is not a Liberal when he is in his Green Years, then he must have no Heart!
If a man is not a Capitalist when he reaches Middle Age.....
Then he must have no Brains!
All protestations to be forwarded on to the Proper Authorities......
Celtic will mollicate( Huh??? ) Aberdeen,
So it is Written, So it shall be Done!
Fargo,
Somewhere in Dryman
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does,nt anyone else think that it,s sad a team we took apart at anfield less than 3yrs ago or so reach a champions l final and we cant get into the 2nd round,after that night in liverpool they went forward and we have went slowly backwards ,MON haS to take some responsabilty??????
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thedominie, you may want to consider this:
Mechanisation and globalisation means that we don't need to have a vast workforce of unskilled labour to have a successful economy. Indeed, immigration hurts the working classes the hardest by providing a steady influx of economic competition, at a huge cost to the welfare state.
Also, the reason why large parts of London, Paris, Berlin, and even Copenhagen have become hellholes where the natives dare not go is because of Third World immigration.
PS - I liked Henrik Larsson. Still do. But if several hundred thousand Henrik Larssons turned up at Glasgow Airport tomorrow, it wouldn't be an unalloyed blessing. And your average illegal (or even legal) immigrant is no Henrik Larsson.
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philvis u are one boring guy ,this is a c.f.c fans website not the micheal howards fans site ,i bet u watch question time on a saturday instead of something intresting, please get of your high horse and talk about football related topics?
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Taggsybhoy
Some guys don't have a sense of humour! I suspect Paul is on the windup, trying to relieve the pre-run in nerves with some irreverent political banter.
As someone charged with the, mostly, thankless job of trying to educate young people to be interested in matters of a political nature, I always despair when the "keep politics out of.." brigade come on. Politcs is about opinions and making decisions. Nothing more. It concerns us all.
The guys who come on here are, quite rightly, not short of an opinion or two, so we are all, whether we like it or not, politicians of some sort. It is only a matter of degree. Some guys do it for a living. But politics affects football, and Celtic, in a big way. If you choose to live in denial, fair enough.
Me personally, I enjoy the forays into the non obvious Celtic world. I love hearing that some snooker player, golfer, pop star, actor whatever is into Celtic. I give them a bigger cheer!
I do not believe for a second that the world of culture and sport is dominated by guys and gals who support the hoops. And the opposite; that most cultured, politically aware and educated people stay well away from TFOD.
So, if you want a very rough guide about Scottish politics and fitba'
Labour. Most Labour politicians support the hoops. That is because of the shared roots between the party and the club. And, I think a fundamental decency about supporting the underdog. Its not a Catholic thing, more a who do we feel most at home with thing.
The Tories are the natural party of the establishment. Most of their activists and politicians are instinctive Huns and Jambos.
The SNP do not have much of a central belt base. They, like the Scottish national team these days, are rurally and Notherly based. They tend to support diddy teams and are, because most of them are geeks, quite proud that they do.
The Lib Dems are a pretty well heeled bunch and care more for rugby than fitba'. They would, apart from Jim Wallace, keep well away from Celtic and Rangers as they, in an effort to be "balanced", think "both sides are as bad as each other". The Partick Thistle of Scottish politcs.
The SSP are former Militant and while they come from a working class and central belt background, don't want to alienate working class Rangers fans, so they usually claim to support diddy teams too. This, like Militant of old, is a front and they support either Celtic of TFOD but won't admit it.
The Greens are a nice bunch and don't like fitba' at all. All that competitivenes, partisanship and "parochialism" is just not conduicive to developing a global plan to save the planet.
So, there we are. I've been too late to influence how you voted today. But, I forgot about the UKIP and the BNP. Less said, the better perhaps, but Philvis, I suspect you are a sympathiser of one of these.
If it wasn't for immigrants, our NHS would simply not exist. Immigrants, like the Irish and the Asians/West Indians before, do the jobs we are not prepared to do. Rising house prices? I would have thought that was more to do with a healthy economy. Overcrowding? Creating unemployment? We are very short of nurses and teachers. There are very many skilled asylum seekers doing nothing when they could make a real contribution. I would have thought a Celtic supporter would know the club's history and traditions and welcome strangers to our country. See what I mean about not escaping from politics?
Oh, and btw, I watched Footballers Wives instead of Question Time last week.
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Taggsybhoy
Mistake para 5
Should have been " I do not believe for a second that is a coincidence that the world of..."
Got distracted by Labour holding Sunderland South.
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Scottish Scoilist Party - Power to the people!!!
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Phylvis,
You are of course entitled to your opinion - but.....
Scotland is absolutely desperate for people - this will make the economy more boyount and viable. If the population keeps falling in the way it is we will end up with a very poor economy.
Already we see this with the movement on HQ's to South England - because thats were all the customers are.
Oh and if you stay in any hotel in London you will find that not one of the staff is from the UK.
Apart from that its always a sign of a party bereft of ideas to blame the immigrants - classic.
I'm soooo disappointed in the election coverage - the BBC have opted for a Scottish programme which is crap and ITV are now comparing the elections to snakes and ladders (talk about dumbing down). Any recommendations guys - I've got Sky etc.
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Philvis do you live in Glasgow? I am always stunned by the areas of wasteland that were once housing or factories.
We need more people in Scotland to keep the economy going in a virtuous circle.
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NegAnon
Stick it on sky 944 for slightly better national coverage. At least they have Peter Snow.
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Negative Anon, I have plumped for BBC 2, the BBC Scotland coverage is making me regret voting in the first place & I also reached for the channel changer when I saw the snakes & ladders on ITV.
Taggsybhoy, excellent post as usual. You are somewhat correct that I was not in my most intense mood when I posted today. What I do enjoy is a bit of sport, and election night has lots of runners & riders.
Fargo, from Beijing to Carfin we are all capitalists now - apart from that nice Tommy Sheridan, of course.
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GM
You are right in what you say MON,like Blair,will only be appreciated once he has departed the scene,whether you like him as a leader or not.However,that doesn't mean the person that replaces either will be unable to be successful.
Your post got me thinking though.The only reason that we are looking at a third Labour term is that John Smith,Tony Blair and many others recognised that Labour needed to change or amend its way of thinking in order to regain the influence it had previously enjoyed in this country.
To many socailists,they found that unacceptable but the pain that Labour endured during the change to "New Labour" has ensured the last ten years have been Tory free.
There are similarities with our current predicament.Tradition seems to be trampled on and to some considering selling the name of the stadium is a step too far.But maybe history shows us that sometimes you just have to move on and modernise your thinking to stay at the top of the pile.
BankieBhoy
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Thanks Gents - much happier now
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Taggsybhoy
I switched from ITV when Joan Collins came on, from BBC 1 when Wendy Alexander came on. I'm not misogynist honest!
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Taggsybhoy
I switched from ITV when Joan Collins came on, from BBC 1 when Wendy Alexander came on. I'm not misogynist honest!
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Indeed, BankieBhoy. Your point is well made. The jist of mine is that people are quick to bite the hand that feeds them when the going gets a bit tougher.
Indeed, it is worth baring in mind that while Neil Kinnock and John Smith laid the foundations for Tony Blair's success, so Margaret Thatcher sowed the seeds of destruction for Major, Hague, Duncan-Smith etc. (is that them all? I've lost count). Any successor to MON would have BIG shoes to fill.
Neg Anon: BBC 2. They have Ian Hislop kicking about, who always treats the politicians with the disdain that most of them deserve.
GM
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Paul67,
Political Parties..........
Balderdash, Pshaw, Poppycock!
Tory or Labour et al?
Just names, have no intrinsic value.
Only one thing decides elections.
Want to know?
That old devil,sneak......
SELF INTEREST!!
Of course, this thesis is predicated on Free Elections.
If that be the case, Self Interest wins every time!!
Gentlemen, I rest my Case.
Noah the Gnu.
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Taggsybhoy brilliant post. I was going to call it a day but now Im watching the Vote 2005 programmes. I like your comparision on political parties and teams but there is only one party that represents where I live SNP. My view on m.howard: if there were no imigrants there might not have been a Celtic.Sorry for getting carried away.
Great site
Estadio Nacional
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Are you people not listening to me ANDY DAVIES is running the line at the cup final grrr@allofu.
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I see but at least some sort of positive news to come from CP today, being linked to another icelandic Kid
http://celtic.soccer24-7.com/features/3909
Rugbybhoy
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I see but at least some sort of positive news to come from CP today, being linked to another icelandic Kid
http://celtic.soccer24-7.com/features/3909
Rugbybhoy
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Annon 9.11
If we win the league we should rise above the likes of Davies, we don't need to ruin a good day out by lowering ourselves to the likes of him.
He knows what he is, we know what he did.
Anyone seen the E-Tims RM today? Anyone heard the MON story or know if there is any mileage?
Hail Hail
Mon the Hoops
Martybhoy
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For goodness sake Paul, your allowed to react to the occassional negative post, if you only respond to the guys that come on here praising you telling you your great etc, as you have done recently, then this website will quickly lose all credibility, assuming it still has some after the recent way off the mark articles. And I don’t mean to be offensive here, maybe I'm just a bit nervous considering the big games we've got coming up. Kevin.
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Kevin, I respond to lots of disagreeing posts. As a rule, if they get personal, I tend not to bother.
In terms of criticisms of subject matter for the site, as appeared above; some you win some you lose. I knew I was taking a wee risk with the subject matter, however, if I never done this it would be a pretty dull site.
On the positive side, anyone is free to come on and have their say; another wee risk, but what the hell, we are among friends after all.
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Taggsybhoy...Still posting at midnight when you've got weans to teach in the morning. Must be the Labour winning election that kept you from your scratcher, eh?
Either that or you've been on the same sleep deprivation programme as me for that jaunt I took last week.
Fine post all the same.
I see somebody's giving it big-time to Mr MacAveety, why would our esteemed speaker be spoken of in this shoddy manner?
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Taggsybhoy,
Great post, but....
An analysis of politics as being merely opinion and decision based is a wee bitty simplistic.
The reality of the situation, if we like it or not is not about negotiation but about the realpolitic of power. Purely and merely.
A bit like when Theory is having ideas and ideology is when ideas have you.
Rich Pickings
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Gil Scott Heron
Can ANYONE enlighten me about this story,who he was?any other famous Celts?
SteveBhoy
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SB
Check out this site
http://www.globaldarkness.com/articles/gill_scott_heron_revolution_willnotbe_televised.htm
Celtic signed his estranged father Gill Heron after a tour ofthe USA
in 1951 I think, read about it yesterday,and he was a Jamaican International and the first Black player we ever had.
GSH is regarded by some as the 'Father of Rap' - open to discussion I would imagine but none the less is considered very influential over the way modern music developed.
Rugbybhoy
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The e-tims rumour backs my own suspiscions about MON. He seems jaded by football and I think this is reflected amongst the players.
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http://skysports.planetfootball.com/Article.asp?id=274709
The above story also supports the line that MO'N is off.
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well paul you have done for Mr. Howard. He has just resigned.
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CynicalCelt
If you read the article carefully you have to ask who contacted whom, after all Co Adriaanse is the one out of a job could it be he is trying to re-ignite the interest that Celtic Showed in him pre-MON?
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Agreed Celticbhoy:
"he claims contact has been made with Celtic - although they are yet to get back to him."
i.e. Contact HAS BEEN MADE, but he doesn't say when or by whom. He could even be alluding to five years ago. Media meddling I suspect.
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To all the guys that contribute regularly to this website - YNWA - lets bin the moanin and get right behind the team this Sunday - one more big push is needed.
Kevin.
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Losing to Hibs, losing our Manager, Losing the League, Davies on the CupFinal Line........it's all in the mind isn't it, I said isn't it?????????
Mischief making I hope. Really hope.
It would be a sad day for our club.
I can't see it, unless the family issues are still there but I'm glass half full. MON has next season to look forward to, a sizeable budget (ahem), and pot 2 of the Champions League. I think I could stick it out for 1 more year too see if I'm as good as I think I am, to test the fruits of my labour.
Mischief makers indeed.
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This just puts another log in the fire which i think will produce a lot more smoke in the coming months. I mentioned recently that Walford looks to be off despite trying to keep it concealed. The story on sky doesnt mean much but why would Co Adriaanse approach Celtic in the first place. I have conistenly quoted MON when it has came to job offers for the past years and each time i have been proven right: "There is only one job i would go back to England for and the best manager in the world is there right now"
Things change and i wonder whether or not MON still has the same viewpoint. If MOn doesnt get at least 10M then why the hell should he stay? He has taken Celtic as far as they can go and he needs some serious funding to take them further.
It will take two conditions for MON to leave in the summer - not getting enough money and an offer from a club who he feels he can take to a new level than they are currently performing at. Both terms are subject to a great deal of uncertainty.
Would he go back to England? He cant win the league if he doesnt get the Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool job (all pretty secure). So his only motivation would come from a seriously underperforming club.
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CelticBhoy, I never gave any validation to the story, merely drew the attention to it as it "followed the line" of the rumour mentioned by NegAnon.
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CynicalCelt I was just putting another spin on the story no criticism intended of anyone.
If anyone is in the Celtic end on Sunday hold your card up please.
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"Leicester City manager Craig Levein has confirmed that Celtic defender Momo Sylla is training with the club." while I would like to see him go should he not be at CP at this late stage in the season?
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TrueTim You asked "why would Co Adriaanse approach Celtic in the first place?"
Maybe this qoute from the skysports article will help to explain why:`Despite a brilliant season with AZ, Adriaanse is leaving Alkmaarder Hout in the summer and Louis van Gaal has already been confirmed as his successor.
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I can see the headlines tomorrow already. Speculation till there is concrete proof but I have a feeling there is something in this. The dip against Hibs was inexplicable. these last four games should be a case of make sure the game is won in the first half hour and then make sure you dont lose. No matter what is in the papers tomorrow, remember that this football club is bigger than any individual.
Lets make sure we win the league first. Worry about who wants to manage a team who can qualify for Pot 2 of the Champions league and earn a Million a year later!
PLease Please dont turn up on Sunday looking to blame the players, management, media, board, SFA, next doors dog, the man in the moon... 4 games 4 wins = 2 cups. These games matter too much for the future to start imploding now. Don't wait on the team sparking you into life. If we dont give this team opur full backing no matter what is happening on the park till the players are off the pitch we are not going to win a bean this season. If it means turing off the radio, not reading a paper for the next few weeks then do it. Just make sure you turn up and give it laldy.
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Xavier, the man was doomed from the moment he crossed Celtic :-)
As far as the MON stories go…..
I am sure he will retire when he leaves Celtic. Not knowing his personal circumstances I will hold my counsel rather then add fuel to the flames.
Unbelievable that they have appointed ‘that’ linesman for the cup final. Maybe I should run the other line just to even things up, mind you I quite like Dundee United, so it would hardly be even.
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Well said Brendan.
Please please fellow Bhoys, please justify our tag as TGFITW and belt it out for the full 90+ minutes to help drive the team to victory, not just this weekend, but in all four remaining matches.
Remember the Liverpool fans on Tuesday night, and the Portsmouth fans when they were trounced by Arsenal in last season's FA Cup... Let's show that we can outdo them all and get the whole stadium bouncing from kick off to the final whistle.
With the preverbial extra man we can prevail.
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...and how about a full-on rendition of YNWA at the start, end, and several points in between. Treat each remaining match like you would a Champions League match against Manchester United and almost literally blow the opposition away!
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