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Yeah..problem is paul most of the players we are being linked too don't exactly seem to be multi-million bank breaking names... my only positive thought is that though WGS is seen as a MON clone (though possibly one of poorer quality) from what I remember he was not afraid of looking outside of these islands for players, with places such as israel(boo)(no more eyal's please) and morocco on the menu ... though not too sure if either off those would like the scottish winter
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Copied from the dying embers of the last deabte:
Paul, am I right in thinking that previous share issues (and possibly a future issue) have operated in somewhat of an Islamic Banking style? By this I mean that investors receive a better return (dividend) if the team is successful in achieving certain goals i.e. european progression.
I wonder if a combination of interest free loans with some element of profit/loss sharing (dependent on trigger events) would be a possible alternative to further rights issues and so on.
I have noted with interest that the government is going to help out certain workers in buying a home by 'profit-sharing'. Here, the Gov pays around 20% of the purchase price thus allowing a borrower access to better rates and a better home. When the flat is sold (or after a setperiod) the Gov receives the initial 20% back plus and incremental value accrued over the time period. The obvious difference here is that the investor is getting a piece of a physical asset but I am sure cimilar contracts could be arranged with a club like celtic.
As an example, an investor could offer cash (most likely used for transfers) as an interest free loan to be paid back at a later date but with added clauses offering a special dividend based on champions league performance (and hopefully increased revenues).
Does anyone know the in's and outs of leeds way of financing certain player purchases in the past 5 years? I believe there were problems in that Leeds never actually owned the players.
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Joos has left as well?
Is this a scoop paul, was half expecting it but hadn't seen it announced anywhere
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It is good that the wage bill has been reduced.
And we know from your many posts that the amortisation charge will also be reduced.
But how does this all fit in with the BQ statement that the 60% of turnover needs to be reduced (probably to nearer 50%)?
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With Gordon now back from holiday, I would expect things to heat up over the next couple of weeks. We do not have a great deal of time between now and the start of preseason training (a little over three weeks I believe).
The wee man is going to be busy.
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Cheers for that Paul, hope as has been said that things start to pick up and we pick up a few really exciting players, I suppose it will still be a little slow as players head off on holiday too. Still I have a bit of faith that the right signings will be made and that there will be a bit of a buzz about the place (copyright Paul Mcstay) come July
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Where has Joos moved to (if anywhere)?
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Although many players are leaving or have left (not sure about Joos as of yet); we are going to need at least 5 or 6 new faces in. It's unquestionable that we need a quality keeper, left back & centre back. And unless we retain Bellamy we are more than likely going to fork out for a new striker and possibly a midfielder or two (especially a left winger/wingback) as I feel Thompson has gave all he has unfortunately.
The dissapointing thing about the transfer targets mentioned in the media so far is that there, as usual, seems to be a lack of ambition. Hopefully I am wrong but in my opinion there have been no un-cut diamonds in the transfer speculation so far - just championship players or those who struggle for a game in lesser premiership clubs.
As I've said before on these forums, I would love to seen Christian Wilhelmsson at the club - he would give our left side the skill and running power it needs. All at a cool cost of £1.5m, that is if Inter don't snap him up.
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when at parkhead for season ticket renewal day, i spotted wilhelmsson entering with 2 advisors and quickly followed by trevor steven. has anyone heard any outcome of this meeting?
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Don't think he has moved yet but he will be looking for a move, also Hedman will probably (hopefully) move for personal reasons.
This is just a feeling and maybe Paul can shed some light and knowledge to this? (or tell me I'm talking rubbish) But I have a strong belief that either Sutton or Hartson will go over the summer.
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larsson7,
How long ago was this? I know last season there was apparently some interest in him. But I read some quotes from the player himself along the lines of "Inter are interested in me." Arrogant lad... I like him!
Although it is encouraging that he was at cp if this is true, at least if he was approached he didn't just firmly dismiss it.
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Paul
Can we add to your list of savings a substantial reduction in the cost of the management team. I cannot believe we will be paying Strachan/Pendry anywhere near the wages of MON, Robbo and Steve Walford.
Incidentally, although all 3 resigned and did not honour their notice periods (with the agreement of the board) my guess is that they probably received a pay-off. When will we know this? The next accounts? Or am I being too cynical.
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do you reckon we will have around 16 million to spend or was that an example. if not how much do u reckon we will have?
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it was the last date for renewal (21/5).
was waiting to get a ball signed by the players entering for training and he went in the main door.
he may be one of the players WGS mentioned in his press conference that had been cross ref'd with MON and had been contacted already about a move. i was surprised no media picked up on his appearance at CP
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Celtic continue to play their cards close to their chest on transfers.
I am sure we can replace the out going players by better quality players on lower wages, but we need a couple of high profile signings to recapture our enthusiasm following last season's disaster.
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What confuses me is when the board start going on about the transfer budget being taken up by wage bills. Surely it would make much more sense to have a set wage budget and give the manager a transfer budget therefore he can match the money has has to spend on players and assess if he can 1) afford to buy the player, and 2) fit him into the wage structure.
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Must say I agree that the media not picking up on that is strange. Especially when you consider that if someone sneezes the wrong way in the CP car park they'd be in the late edition of the Daily Rangers.
Heres hoping the talks were successful!
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Thank Ghod we are off the Board link. Let us get back to Celtic
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Great No 8
Yes, extra dividends are paid if the club reach the knockout stages of the Champions League (nothing for Uefa Cup or for reaching the CL). Dividends increase each round until the semi-final.
This looks like it was designed with your plan in mind.
The Leeds situation is another story all together, I could spend all day telling is here. You could write a book on how not to run a football club.
Baldymeister, no scoop I’m afraid, the story was give little coverage (none here).
Frank, I have heard rumour of a pay-off to the departing management team, should be noted in the accounts.
Jabba, too early to say how much exactly we can spend. Will know soon.
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Hi Paul,
All makes sense to me.
2 questions for you. Do you think the rumoured share issue money will be added to the transfer kitty as well?
Also why dont the club use players like Hedman, Laursen and Fernandez that are still under contract as make weights to get in better players rather than letting them go for free.
Great site keep up the good work.
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I think someone like Wlhelmsson would be a great addition to the team. With him on the left, McGeady on the right and Bellamy or the likes of Keane up front we'd have a pottent attacking force. Btw has anyone heard anumore on the Hartley story? I heard from a mate that he will be returning from Scotland duty to CP but not seen anything anywhere else.
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Richie,
Good point - but who would want them?
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just read ian king in the sun waxing lyrical about big feck saving them 2.6 million in wages by getting rid of Zura, Lovelypants and Mr Bean.
all with a nice positive spin.
never seen anything positive in the media regarding the amount our wage bill is being cut by.
all we see is that we can't afford Bellars wages, on a tight budget, cash strapped etc.
oh its not my Sun its the guy sitting next to me.
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I wouldn't worry about what Ian King or any of the rags have to say - the demonstrable proof that we have sufficient finance to sign several players will come when we make signings. Quite how they'll square their "Pennypinching Celts can't afford Bellers" exclusives with us stumping up the cash to sign him (or someone else) will be interesting.
Expect more tales of Celtic being in crisis, going to the wall, lacking ambition or, what's most likely, stating that we've foolishly wasted our funds when we do spend big.
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Oh NO Trevor Steven!! Surely not!!!
Thanks paul...I think....I was more looking for the effect on the balance sheet and debt...and consequently the transfer spend...but I guess I'll have to dust down my abacus over a nice bottle of wine.....like esteemed gentlemen do..
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I hope Trevor Steven was only there as an agent!
Ok sorry, somebody had to say it, and it might as well be me.
Great site Paul.
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larsson7,
Could it have been the polish goalie you saw that day? He has a similar barnet to Wilhelmsson (blonde mullet) and was over with his advisor, Dariusz Wdowczyk around that time.
That said, I'd love to see Wilhelmsson join, exactly the type of player we need. I could see him making the same type of impact as Thomson did in his first 3 seasons.
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Does anyone know what the current value of Celtic just now? Does this have any affect on our borrowing capacity, transfer budget etc?
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Did anyone note Davie Provan's column last weekend had 'Celtic Crisis' running along the top of the page? What crisis is that, have i missed something?
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malone19,
I know what you mean. But if we go for Niemie we could always offer Hedman plus money to keep the cost down.
Someone might be daft enough to take them on. After all Shef Wed hoodwinked us into taking Blinker when they got Dicanio. What a deal that was!
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Sorry about the change of subject but, does anyone know what's happened to Stephen Pearson???
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Pearson's still there, in the reserves. Not sure if there is any truth to this but heard he had been a naughty bhoy which was why he was dropped, nowt to do with a training ground bust up.
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Test Hail Hail
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Pearson had hernia or a hamstring operation, can't remember which but remember that it began with a 'H'.
Just looked at Celtic's share price as now become much more FTSE savvy 8^) and it is now up to 67.5p, up again on yesterday - so looks as if something (positive?) is going on, as shares are up nearly 25p since March 21st.
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"i was surprised no media picked up on his appearance at CP"
If what Jinky was saying yesterday is true then look out for the exclusives in tomorrows chip wrappers.
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Looks like you now have chat room on your hands.
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On a lighter note for CQN and possibly our own T-Shirt maestro Rumoid, noticed that the symbol for Celtic on the Stock exchange is 'E:CCP'.
As it was discussed ages ago about 'ofeeshall' CQN T's and as money is often the subject discussed upon this blog, perhaps a design incorporating this symbol a la the classic Soviet Union CCCP jerseys that Toffs produce.
Just a thought 8^)
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Great Site Paul - Keep up the Good Work.
Cant wait for the season to start.
I know I'm a bit early but does anyone know when the league fixtures are published?
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ottokaiser, wasn't aware of the goalie being over but if it transpires it was him, he is the double of wilhelmsson.
would love to see us play attractive football with 2 wingers again to supply the ammo to sutty and bellars (if he comes to his senses and signs), this long ball nonsense is demoralising to watch and doesnt excite the fans.
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thanks for that baldymeister...
Could go for the Stalin/Lenin (not neil) photo with pauls barnet and ECCP underneath...:-)
The design is on its way and I'm sure will be here before Celtic's first big signing of the summer...
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larsson7 - are you sure it wasn't Bobby Willhelmson you spotted? - only joking
I don't know why he would move from the Belgian league to the SPL which is also a blow torch league. Also Anderlecht like ourselves are guranteed European football every year - so again i can't see why he'd join us. He's a great player though.
TRIG - Pearson got off to a bad start at Celtic when he drove up to Parkhead on his first day in a Ford Ka. I don't think he's ever got over that nor the players.
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Paul,
can we go over amortisation just one more time never really got my head around it.
Say Celtic sign a player for 4million on a 4 year deal.
What comes off our balance sheet ?
Surely the selling club recieve 4 million so we're 4 million down.
But if we then remove another 4 million over the for years were does it go ?
or does only one million for the 1st year come off the balance sheet?
aaaaahhhhhhh
This is why I work with switches and servers I know where it all goes !
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I knew it was only a matter of time before we all had to 'join up'. Probably a good thing, one or two of the anons were taking liberty's
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Re: Hartley - A friend of a friend of a friend of Hartley (so that makes it a certainty, I'm sure you'll agree!) was told not to bother renewing his season ticket, cos PH will get him comps - so if true it's a done deal.
I like the fact that nothing is coming out of CP - but some of the names the press are throwing about don't inspire. Specifically, the two Toon rejects, O'Brien and Harper (unlike most, I'm not convinced Given is the complete package, so it follows that his understudy falls a good way short), are part of a sieve which compares well with our own leaky defence.
We all know the problem areas: LB, CH, left midfield, striker and the elusive "new Lubo" for behind the front two - so I'm looking forward to see who GS brings in.
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I read with interest today the D&T report on EPL wages. It seems that financial prudence is spreading, with all EPL clubs bar chelski reducing their wage/turnover ratio.
Estimating our turnover 04/05 comes in around £74m and with a stated intention of a 50% ratio. This would allow a wage budget of £37m an increase of just £1.5m on 03/04.
Unless my figures are wrong, it does not matter the amount for transfers, the driver on player quality is likely to be the wage budget.
Taking the £7m and the £1.5m effectively this gives WGS £163,500 per week of wages with which to sign players.
This will give you 4(40k) stars or 8(20k) average pros from the EPL.
If we want more there will have to be more exits from the current squad or a change in thinking from the board.
The best option would be a manager who does not shop in the EPL.
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Bellshill tim:
mortisation: a fools guide....written for Jim Traynor
We buy a £4m player on a 4 year contract (Bellamy for instance)
In simple terms this results in £4m coming out of the bank (off our balance sheet) and £4 going on to our balance sheet....(Intangible asset)
As we benefit from having that asset over the period of his contract we should recognise this benefit and the associated cost on the P &L account...
The benefit/associated cost is worked out over the term of his contract (i.e. we have him for 4 years therefore £1m per year benefit)
Deduct £1m from assets in the balance sheet... And this cost hits the P & L account....
So after year 1 we have a £3m asset and a loss of £1m.....
You'll never get me to understand switches and servers....I'm still struggling with my spectrum 48K...Its never been the same since Daley Thompson's decathlon
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What is Jinky's secret?
Come on weeman put us out of misery!
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Malone19 there is a picture of Artur boruc on this URL
http://www.90minut.pl/kariera.php?id=2624
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thebhoys67 -
"At 2:49 PM, Wee Jinky said…
Skelly 2,
About two years or so ago I made up a story about Celtic being on the verge of "swooping" for a young Slovakian player whose name I can't remember.
While the player was real everything else about the story was fabricated by me.
I made up quotes from the player and from a "Celtic source". I posted it on the Huddleboard as a parody of a tabloid transfer story.
The very next day the story appeared - virtually word for word - in several tabloids with The Star giving it full page coverage!
Even teletext carried the story and all of them featured the quotes from the player and source which I had made up!!
I think that says everything we need to know about the tabloids and transfer speculation."
Polish keeper is called Artur Boruc, g00gle image search will do the trick.
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Cheers Skelly 2!
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Don't know if it's just me but I can't see the resemblance between
Wilhelmsson: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/Players/Player=54364/
and Boruc: http://www.90minut.pl/kariera.php?id=2624
Also, I'm still confused as what the "chippie wrappers" will be reporting if all jinky said was he leaked a fake story seasons ago.
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Since Wee Jinky's trick worked so well then can we now expect a "Bhoys in drugs shame" headline tomorrow...?
Regarding players in and out, let's hope whatever's being said in the papers is pure conjecture, and the real (good) news is being kept quiet.
Maybe we could put Celtic's PR dept in charge of transfer dealings - that way noone would ever hear about them! (Sorry, just an attempt at sarcasm.)
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malone19,
I think the suggestion was that some "lazy journos" would trawl the various messageboards as "research" for their exclusives, hence expect "Wilhelmsson says deal me in" on the back of the tabloids tomorrow.
Do a google image search on Artur Boruc, on the first page - first picture on the bottom row.
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Stevie58, Iceland under 19's beat Sweden 2-0 with our Teddy Bjarnason playing behind the front two and scoring both (1 pen). May still be a bit young but interesting none the less. He ran the whole show by all accounts. I think there is a report on "news now".
Apparently his younger brother is an even better prospect with ourselves and a few others looking at him.
I think Chippen Wilhelmsson would make a great signing.
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The last 2 close seasons had us all wound up about tranfers, with little of substance to show for it.
For sure the next couple of months will bear fruit, only question is what variety.
Hope Wee Gordo gets a few in early while the best pickings are available and also to ease the stress on our fragile hearts.
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Paul,
As you correctly say, getting rid of unwanted players is a good piece of business.
As well as the ones that you have mentioned then there is also the strong possibility that as well as high earners such as Bellamy will go, others may be pushed towards the door, namely Sutton, Hartson or Thompson.
These 3 are very high earners whose salaries could easily be reduced by a replacement. However we need to ensure that we do not replace too much too soon, as we need the team spirit that the team has had over the past 5 years.
Is Jock Brown still doing psycho-analytical testing on behalf of Celtic to make sure that signed players are the full shilling? :)
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Was trying to remember the nickname chippen earlier... wonder where it comes from? Maybe its because he looks like a chipmonk.
I suppose that picture does look quite like him, oh well there goes my hopes!
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Personally Id sell Hartson and Thompson. The wages combined could be used to get a top class bosman (not likley at Celtic I know) or £3m player on big wages would mean we could compete with the richer eurpoean clubs on wages at least for the likes of Wilhelmsson.
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how would we feel if in the 89th minute leading one nil to Rangers in a league decider, Niemi was called upon to face a Hun penalty?
Ah wid have kittens!!
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"Chippen" is a common nickname in Sweden.
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Richie8, the share issue will be there to supplement the short term cash situation take care of other projects, principally the new training facilities.
Thanks Ardoch and Mr Stein.
Trevor Steven is part of the excellent Blair Morgan football agents stable.
Bellshill Tim, so you work with switches and servers and not for my Bellshill company? Hmm.
Amortisation, just for you:
£4million for a player on a 4 year deal. The cash is likely to go up front. No more cash goes.
The value of the player is added to the balance sheet (+£4m) but the corresponding amount of cash is removed from the balance sheet, so there is no immediate impact on balance sheet.
Over the course of the contract the P&L is charged £1m per season, which is removed from the balance sheet as it hits the P&L.
OttoKaiser, no info on the Nike logo’s on the North Stand. I would assume it is part of the shirt deal.
As far as transfer stories go, I have been told to expect the first one to be a big name. There are several small deals done, if they come out with a cheap signing first they will be accused by many fans of lacking ambition.
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I have to agree with BazzaBhoy on that again. Thompson just isn't the player he used to be and if we could replace him with the likes of Wilhelmsson I think it would make sense to have him off the wage bill and possibly get some money for him. I know this sounds a bit harsh but too long have we held on to players until they are wotrth nothing and simply drain the wage bill. Take Lambert for instance, there is no doubt that what he has done for the club in his prime was fantastic as with Thompson; but in this day and age we cannot afford to be sentimental about or selling policies.
I think we need a skilful, pacey striker and because of this either Hartson or Sutton should go. My opinion is that Sutton is the more complete player albeit he won't grab as much goals. And Hartson is still the right age where we could get a fee for him. We would miss his goals and need to replace them but for the last month or so of the season he had nothing to give. We can't have players running on small tanks who will eventually be asked to run on empty come the end of the season - especially if we hope to play in European competitions.
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Would make sense not to come out with smaller signings. I'm pleased the way transfer rumours are going around this season. Although no names are being mentioned by WGS its nice to know there are names and they are being actively persued. Last season there seemed to be nothing. That was one of probably 3 qualms I had about MON: Leaving transfers till the last minute, overly loyal and some strange tactical decisions (i.e. Petrov on the right).
Paul do you have any idea on a timescale?
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I wouldnt mind thomo moving on but he,s probably on £30k plus per week, would probably need a pay off to see him go.
If we give players a pay off does this go down as wages or recorded as an exceptional cost?
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Here's hoping the first is Bellamy then!
Paul,
Brilliant message board by the way!!
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Paul,
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for excluding the Anons.
The silly season has arrived, as always at this time of year. Speculation on the back of speculation leads to so and so seen in the car park of CP. As always it makes good fun but is not worthing anything until they actually sign. Keep it up bhoys.
Reality is that transfer budget has not been made public (yet?). We know that some of the players are now ex, but that's it. Okay, I'm being a killjoy here but too many seasons have gone by when so and so is joining us for it not to take place and my anticipation gland has dried up.
Regarding Pearson, I love this guy. I honestly think he could become something for the club. I truly hope he overcomes whatever demons are besetting him and returns to the first team.
I hear Charlie Miller is available.........
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Paul, I have just seen visual proof of the swoosh signs on the north stand upper tier. There appear to be 3 of them. Left, middle and right.
Any idea if this could have been part of the original NIKE deal or if there is more cash to come from this?
squeek.
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TimOTay
Sutton, Hartson and Thompson have all been BIG game players for us since they came to CP 5 years ago.
Not sure if I'd be so quick to get them off the wage bill. I think too much is based on getting the wage bill down and or getting players to suit the wage bill. Sometimes you have to have exceptions.
You say they're salaries could be easily reduced by a replacement.
However - how easily could we replace these BIG game players?
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Several already done! feel much happier already hopefully there will be a couple of quality signings on the way. As we are thankfully having a more relaxed afternoon today,
No major rammies as yet may i share with many of you who have as much work as I have today this. I give you;
http://www.studentfreestuff.com/shoot_crazy_frog.html
Enjoy
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Mr Stein, Hartson hasnt kicked a ball since beatin the great unwashed in the scottish.. fair enough he may bang 30 a season but he doesnt create anything for others - period. eben if we get a striker who will score say 20 but could create at least the same amount. Larsson scored a barrowload but I bet he created just as many - not suggesting we will get a player of that calibre but you can see my point.
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Bhoys, no sooner do some finish impugning our largest shareholder than others start to recycle old, and unsubstantiated, rumours about named individuals and drugs. Dangerous, dangerous stuff.
To avoid legal action, Paul will probably have to go back in and edit out these comments. He should also have a word with those responsible.
Libel laws apply to blogs. Those who post such comments could also be held responsible. Please, please, please be more careful or this forum may cease to exist.
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JohnBhoy nobody has said players were taking drugs simply that they had heard rumours of this... I think if you read over again you'll find this clearly stated!
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Chill out JohnBhoy, I think you're taking things a little too seriously. We don't have enough time to read all the comments on this site, never mind the hundreds of other chat rooms, bulletin boards, and blogs. So I'm sure Stephen Pearson's solicitor doesn't either.
Opinions expressed here are generally just that: opinions. Apart from some small talk, banter, and the odd reference to reports seen in various parts of the media.
Legal action would be extremely unlikely unless the story was being deliberately fabricated for financial gain. e.g. A "shock, horror" exclusive in a major circulation national rag about attacking some poor press photographer who was just minding his own business studying a top player's skin condition with his best macro lens.
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Beyond the libel situ......
Bazzabhoy couldnt agree more re BBJ. If he is not scoring hes blocking out the sun. 30 goals per season is v. useful but how many mofe could he have had with some fitness and determination.
Bellamy & beattie up fron would work - both with lightning pace ripping most defences apart.
Not only an out ball but some who can follow up with an out ball.
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This is a test
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OK amortisation,
I'll just take your word that it's not a scam, never understand why they just don't take the hit up front and the money is gone, but thats why I don't run a business.
Don't we all just love the pre-season transfer rumours.
We should note all the certain signings down and see how many actually do come off.
Not expecting anything until monday earliest untill GS comes back from his holidays.
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I have it on quite good authority that Craig Bellamy will be signing a 3 year deal with the option to leave after 2 for an agreed sum (this will be what we pay for him circa £5m). Craig wishes to play in the Champions League but does not want to commit himself to 3 years in the SPL. This means that he has the option of returning to a bigger league whilst he will still be at the peak of his career. The biggest drawback for Craig is playing in the SPL against inferior opposition.
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3:26 PM, Bellshill Tim Go to the excellent Kerrydalestreet site they have a sticky on transfers we are linked to. http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=10965
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i'VE got to say I'm disappointed about the speculation regarging Pearson.
We shouldn't be doing the gutter media job for them.
A second point is Anti Niemi.
I have never been convinced and I can assure you it has nothing to do with him being a former Ranker.
I can remember him as a goalie who was a great shot stopper but without the concentration of the best like Kloss.
I think he looks so good at Southampton as he gets plenty of practice.£2 million is a big gamble IMO.
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Haha,
I see Freddy Adu mentioned on that list, Bhoy that would be nice... doubt it would ever happen though. Wilhelmsson scrubbed from the list as well, shame!
Any news on the man u defender that was apparently signing?
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Good to see the good debates raging.....
Paul - good info. What do you think our revenue/wages artio should be - 50% or more?
Bigchipsuk - I have to agree with Johnbhoy. It may not be illegal to make accusations like that, but I honestly believe rubbish like that should not be repeated on a forum. Pub chatter at best.
I_SPY - may be BS, but actually sounds plausible.
My tuppence worth - a striker for Celtc in the SPL should count on 20 goals as minimum.
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Hope I'm no bein daft.. Tinneybhoy not a word... but who is this Freddy Adu, seen his name mentioned here a few times and elsewhere. I have't a scoobie who he is.
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JohnBhoy is spot on with his post of 2.59, and those of you who are making light of his comments need to think again.
Malone19, stating something is a rumour provides no defence against a libel action, so your point is completely irrelevant.
BigchipsUK, we know this site is read by senior people at Celtic, how do you think Paul got his invite to press conferences? Anyway, suggesting it's all right to libel someone because not many people are reading this doesn't qualify as a thoughtful response to a serious point.
Even leaving aside the risk to Paul's wallet and the existence to this site, is unsubstantiated third-hand pub gossip about Celtic players taking drugs an appropriate subject for us to be discussing? I'd expect to find this sort of thing on a Rangers site, not a Celtic one. CQN is better than this, guys. Give it a break.
Paul, I strongly recommend you take JohnBhoy's advice and either remove or edit the comments which make reference to named individuals taking drugs. These posts add nothing to the site and are a blot on its reputation.
Maybe that 'Code of Conduct' suggested a few months ago wasn't such
