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Agreed. The guy looks different class. The funny thing is that he seems to instill confidence in me without actually doing much.
He seems to have a real presence about him and commands his box, not being afraid to give a bollocking to his defenders if it is needed.
I think we only have to look to Rangers to see the amount of points a good goalkeeper can win you a season. Both Goram and Klos were massive for Rangers and Boruc definitely won that game for us yesterday
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Paul
Completely agree. Couldnt be happier with Boruc. And it can only be good to an already promising Marshall to be learning from an actual goalkeepr (no offence Rab!). Although when crosses come in I'm still waiting for someone to make a mess of it. I suppose its been too long of poverty in the goalkeeping stakes for us to get use to the Riches of Brouc overnight.
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Yeah it's a strange one how Rangers had Goram followed by Klos and we've had a succession of middle of the road keepers. I for one didn't think Bonner was a bad goalkeeper he just hung around too long (David Seaman also did this at Arsenal), but after he left we found it hard to replace him. Where the Gers have struggled is with the ghost of Ally McCoist, they can't produce a 30 goal a season striker the same way we can.
Anyway out of curiosity does anyone think that the route of loan deal, then impress fans and manager, then earn a full time deal may be helping Boruc's form? He knows that if he doesn't do it on the pitch he's out of here. So he's not only fighting for a place in the team he's also fighting for long term security.
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Paul-
Have to agree with your point that if Artur had been in from the start
the Champion League anthem would be reverberating around Celtic Park once again.
On previous Celtic keepers-I had the misfortune to watch-through my infant eyes-the 4-1 thumping we received from Partick Thistle in the 1971 League Cup Final at Hampden Park.
The incumbent keeper that day was Evan Williams,who-despite his very Welsh name was very Scottish.
Although not to blame for all 4 goals that day his positioning and distribution did not help the cause.
I had the good fortune to meet up with Evan (quite)a few years later . When I mentioned the fact that -as a child- I had witnessed one of the most embarrassing moments in Celtics proud history-
Evan,s reply"wizny all my fault !"
A very nice man.
I also had the misfortune to witness Peter Latchfords Celtic debut at Easter Road-a 2-0 defeat to Hibs.
Mr. Latchfords backside even in those days was comparable to our very own Mr. Hartsons,.
This was a time when Peter Latchford was the understudy to Peter Shilton/Ray Clemence as Englands no.1
Shamrock Diary-
Good idea re- CQN temperance society
What do we do ? put a breathalyser
on the keyboard ?
noel.
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Agreed, Boruc has been an absolute revelation for us this season and about time we had such a solid number 1! Celtic's big challenge now is keeping him though, the loan deal route - although beneficial when it came to flops like Henri Camara and Aliadiere - might just prove to trip us up as we are told several premiership clubs are now hot on his trail!
Lets hope we can get a long term deal secured very soon and ensure he goes on to become one of the greats!
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I watched him closely at the Aberdeen game and could not fault him. Futhermore he inspired confidence in me that we had finally found a good keeper.
It has been one of the great mysteries of our age how that other lot consistantly have great keepers and we do not.
Gordon - sign the bhoy up now and for an extended contract!
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Boruc also wants to prove he's Poland's first chice keeper.
The guy has tremendous confidence and makes things look easy. Agreed on the 30-year tradition, have we finally found a really excellent goalkeeper at Celtic? I hope so.
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The best thing about Boruc is that he will also improve our defence with every passing game they will see that they are playing infront of a very able keeper and it will inspire confidence in them. Something we have lacked for a very long time.
I loved the way he intervened in the Sproule incident, to come that far out just to let a guy know who's boss takes balls and confidence, something you need when you have to constantly shout at Bobo!
BTW it was an absolute shambles that he was allowed to stay on the pitch, but we're not paranoid.............are we?
TBE.
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we're not paranoid, its just hard when the whole world is against us! ;)
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Noel90, I have also had the opportunity to meet Evan Williams and hear one or two stories – agree, a lovely man.
At Hampden that day against Partick was another man who would play in goal for us one day – Alan Rough. Rough was a fine keeper in his day, though no match for the likes of Leighton who replaced him at niternational level.
He did better than expected when he spent a brief spell at Celtic late in his career.
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Aye. The big man's confidence and ease radiates right through the defence with Bobo especially feeling the benefit.
Great start yesterday,the only cavil being the selection of Telfer ahead of, an apparently fit, Agathe and that against a hellishly inspired Sproule. I hope we're not going to be playing managers favourites here to the detriment of,probably the fastest runner and definately the finest tackler we have.
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Agree, Boruc has installed some confidence to the team which I don't think Marshall can do yet (Please note I rate Marshall highly, I just dont think the defence have the same confirdence)
Whaat I thought was a breath of fresh air was he was screaming at the defence, which I find re-assuring.
The Bhoys are getting better okay they dtarted brightly then faded a little but credit to Hibs they made it difficult.!!
C'mon the Bhoys keep up the good work!!!
Hail Hail
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By the way just so we don't forget that the Gers also had their share of rubbish keepers does anyone remember Peter McCloy? God he was bad and he looked like a circus clown.
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Cavansam,
You have a point re the loan deal impacting on the goalkeepers motivation. Didn't Varga play better when he was playing for a new deal a couple of seasons ago.
I agree that Boruc is off to a great start. However, the big question is, will he be able to produce this form consistently. I certainly hope so.
I just think that it is a bit early to raise the expectation levels for Boruc.
Noel. Thanks for the explanation. We've all been there.
BTW. I also had the same thoughts as tinytim and some others about the identity of Django. I also suspected that yesterday was not his first post.
Lubo.
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Cavansam-
Mc Cloy-the Givan Lighhoose-was certainly no looker but his succesor in the ibrox goal was even more fearsome-Stewart Kennedy.
Him of the massive side boards,bad teeth and collision with the post at wembley fame.
He battered his coupon off the post during the 5-1 defeat by England-I think he tried to use this as an excuse for his lack of good looks-no way ! if anything the skelp off the post was an improvement ! Remember-
This was a bloke who would go out at halloween as himself !
;~}
noel.
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It's not so much average goalkeepers we've had, to me it's more the keepers we have had at the club who have left. Tony Warrener,currently playing well for Fulham; Shay Given, nuff said ; Javier Sanchez Broto, in lA liga i think, but was certainly our best keeper at the club at that time poor debut aside.There are probabaly others.
It seems odd these guys left,when our goalkeeper has been a weak point for 30 years.
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I was impressed with Broto in his short spell with us & am convinced we would've won the Uefa Cup had he been in goal in Seville.
As for Boruc - he is top drawer. He looks like the kind of guy who if he made a mistake would easily shrug it off & just get on with the rest of the game. Keepers we've had in recent years like Gould, Douglas, Hedman, Marshall just disintigrate when they make an error. Boruc is far from being a Joel Batz, Dino Zoff or a Casillas, but he's the steadiest Celtic keeper i've seen in my lifetime
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It is really pleasing to return from holdiay (sneaked that one in nicely, do you thiink anyone noticed?) and read a positive article.
I have to agree that while it is early days Boruc has looked the part from his first appearance in pre-season. He has conceded 3 goals, two of which were penalties. He has saved a few penalties as well. I find it incredible that for the first time in my lifetime Celtic have a keeper who is more than willing to give the defence a good rollicking. I liked big Packie, I bumped into him a few times quite literally. The guy is huge i recall headbutting his chest on two occasions. Howeve Cavansam hit the nail on the head when he said that Packie stayed too long.
Big Rab, again apparantly a very nice guy, not able to produce any kind of consistent form. I do remember a stunning diplay in Valencia though. Similar to Marshalls in Barca. There were just one too many clangers from the big brickie.
The comparison made earlier between Klos/Goram and Boruc may turn out to be true. It should however be remembered that Goram had some howlers and saved his best form for the games against Celtic. Klos has also made some high profile errors against Celtic, these tend to be overshadowed by the outstanding performances he produces when Rangers are on the ropes.
I just hope that when Boruc makes a mistake (and he will) that we do not get on his back as we have done with every keeper over the past 25 years.
Keep it going big chap.
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Paul, any talk about Boruc's contract? Dont want to sound too impatient, but the longer its left the more chance of a "small problem" cropping up. Maybe im over concerned, but the quicker the better IMO.
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Paul,
I think you're right about Boruc, if a bit early. I was right behind him in the first half of the Leicester game and he was very impressive.
I think we might have our best since Ronnie Simpson, although David Marshall should be looked after, because his first 2 games were so impressive. He has age on his side.
By the way, we did have a very good Irishman on the books (and I don't mean Bonnar, whom I think was no more than average for us, if a standout on occasion for Ireland) but Shay Given, whom we gave away, if memory serves to Blackburn Rovers.
The great thing Boruc seems to be doing is inspiring confidence in Balde, something Bobo quite evidently lost completely (and frayed a lot of nerves among us supporters).
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"When you get caught between a striker and Bobo Balde...the best that you can do is make a save"
What about that to sign for Mr Boruc - Arturs Theme!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully we don't get Artur2: On The Rocks
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Boruc did not touch the ball whatsoever for first 30 minutes!!! Must be a record. Game should have been over by then. He does exude confidence and he looks like a goalie!
Paul,
Packie coming for everything in the 18 yard box??? Yeah, when he should be on his line! Dracula was more afraid of crosses!
SB
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We would have had Shay Given had it not been for the incompitence of Mr Lou Macari.
I wonder where Celtic would have been had we had a goalkeeper of his class for the last eight years.
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.………………………….
You, take my breath away…………………………….
You, take my breath away…………………………….
What an article………………………………..........
Boruc……………………………….
Is the Man……………………………….
I sometimes think that Celtic invented……..
Buying bad keepers……………………………….........
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainandthinkstheticwillwintheleague.
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.………………………….
Has any 1 got any thoughts about the team selection for Wednesday’s game…………………………..
I thing GS will change it some what……………………………….
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainandthinkstheticwillwintheleague.
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I spoke to a Polish friend prior to Boruc signing and he advised me that he was a fine goalkeeper, but had a weakness at cross balls. So far he hasn't had much to deal with in this respect due to Balde being so commanding, but we will wait and see. Could it be that this new keeping coach is a good one.
Incidentally, can anyone name the last person on Celtic's books to be given the number 1 squad number?
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Noel90 12.04
My abiding memory of Evan Williams was the European Cup semi-final of 1972. 0-0 after the two legs it went down to penalty kicks and the only one missed was of course the well-documented first one taken by Dixie Deans.Oh how poor Dixie incurred the the wrath of one and all for a long while after yet I thought Williams was more culpable. Standing behind the goal where the kicks were taken we could clearly see that, despite the Italians taking well-placed penalties ,not once did Williams make a guess and move to cover one corner of his goal or the other. Indeed he remained virtually static throughout and didn't make one gamble that I recall. That, in my opinion, was indefensible(pardon the pun).
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I doubt we'll see too many changes for the Falkirk game, they're a good demand and ought to be shown respect. Their fans will ensure that it feels like a home game for them by out singing us. Will Lennon's inevitable ban apply on Wednesday?
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Balde, Varga, Camara and Telfer took a lot of stick when we conceded 9 goals in the first 2 games but remember Marshall was in goals. Brilliant against Barca and Rangers on those memorable occasions but still only a prospect.
Boruc could be the difference between success and failure this season...
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Afternoon all. (Awe naw, he’s back, I here you lament)
Maybe Zbrzsyk the Legia fan could confirm but as a point of interest my mate has Polish relatives and he says you need to pronounce it 'Boroots' or even 'Borooch' but never 'Boruck' as this is a derogatory term for a country person or village idiot!!
Anyway I read the articles and skimmed some comments from my fortnight away and was most interested in the Share Reinvestment article. Paul, can I suggest a thread on the Celtic Trust itself that we could throw around?
I have some initial thoughts written but they’re wee bit wordy and if there’s no appetite for this discussion will not post.
Also, following the numerous complaints in retrospect of being uninformed about the dividend reinvestment vote is it worth a wee article on the motions being put forward at the forthcoming AGM to at least have the CQN readers made aware in advance of what will be voted on, particularly the 2 Trust motions? Just a suggestion.
Talking about appetite, some great pub lunches to be had in the lake district by the way.
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Paul, not sure I'm in total agreement - as yet, but all the signs are good! I have to say, I'm actually nearly confident when he's one on one that'll he'll come away with the ball - I can never remember feeling like that before! I just feel, as others have already commented, that we need to see if he'll continue to play as well once on a long term contract. I'm pretty sure he will - he looks very self assured, has great technique, kicks with both feet and his concentration is clearly top notch as demonstrated yesterday. The main thing that makes me slightly less confident is watching him for Poland against Austria, where he looked all at sea and although the defence needed to take a huge part of the blame, Boruc was slightly at fault for both goals. I suppose no keeper makes no mistakes. If he keeps this club form up, he'll clearly be our best keeper since Simpson and it's brilliant to see one of our keepers help win a game. Last season, Rab had one game (against Dundee Utd) where he won us the points - a brilliant save from a Barry Robson free kick. He also single handedly lost us a number of points throughout the season that'd clearly prove costly.
On the note of worst players (not sure I like this topic!), someone was asking of examples of what Muggleton did wrong. I was at the first game at Parkhead after the jungle was re-seated, against Motherwell. A through ball was rolling safely towards the keeper, Muggleton slid out to gather. At this point, I knew the keeper was to win the race for the ball, and wasn't even slightly nervous. Muggleton though, let the ball go under his body leaving the striker to run in and pass into the empty net. I can never recall a worse goal keeping blunder than that (obviously not taking into account the importance of the game). Anyway, fingers crossed big Artur keeps up the form. Another important week looms!
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That was supposed to say that they're a good team who demand and deserve respect. Technical hitch I'm afraid.
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Hi Paul
Good thread
I think this is something historical in following Celtic. If you look at any publications about Celtic greats down the years, they always concentrate on superb forward, and midfield dynamos.
Goalkeeping is sadly neglected. I wonder how many young Celtic supporters can remember Ronnie Simpson from the Lisbon Lions. It is the one job on the field where even the slightest error is pounced on by opposition, fans, and media.
Boruc is certainly of a much higher standard than we have been used to for a long time. I agree with your views on Marshall. Who knows though, there is still time for him to shine. Perhaps the presence of Boruc will help inspire him
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Paul67
I think its wide off the mark to say, and I quote, "I have no doubt whatsoever that if he had started the season as first choice we would have been playing Champions League football last week". I think thats a bit on wee David Marshall too...
The team was utter rank in Bratislava, sure boruc would have probably instilled greater confidence in the defence, but im sure its all plain to see that several members of that defence, that day, were thinking about other things, or simply not good enough on the night(camara/telfer).
Marshall has hardly done anything wrong this season when called upon.. sure he hasnt rediscovered his form, but with the defence he had in front of his, I dont think any goalie would have had much of a chance!
Maybe some of the older players took longer to start this season than in previous years, maybe just some of them were more interested in what was happening elsewhere, I dunno but imho I think that we werent good enough this year for Europe on a whole when the time came.
Hail! Hail! Ghirls & Bhoys, or time will come!
KTF! And Marsh will be a legend in 10 years just u wait n see.
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lol... meant to say a wee bit unfair on David Marshall, typo... : /
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Even during Jock Stein's era it was said many times that we failed to replace Ronnie Simpson.
I think there were 2 main problems, firstly those in charge didn't see the need for a top quality goalkeeper. Hence we were signing guys like
Evan Williams from Wolves reserves
Jonathan GOuld Bradford City reserves
Dimitri Kharine from Chelsea reserves
Secondly they require immense concentration, being inactive for long spells, then suddenly called into action.
Hopefully now the powers that be have seen the benefits of having a top quality goalkeeper & back-up.
In Boruc & Marshall we have 2 excellent goalkeepers.
Imagine taking a Wolves reserve keeper to Milan for a European Cup Final like we did with Williams. Good keeper though he was, he wasn't the quality we needed at the time.
Looking back we have had some strange ones...
McKnight - Andrews - Kharine among them. Carl Muggleton I think equalled our consecutive shut out record of 6 games ?
But you only have to look to Nottm. Forest with Shilton and now Chelsea with Cech to know only the best will do.
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Although im sure Boruc arrived at Celtic a great keeper, the riddle over the standard of Celtic keeper of recent times could possibly be solved in two words. Terry Gennoe. However good he may be reputed to be. The most coachable aspects of a goalkeeper is surely, positioning, crosses and kicking. Things such as reflexes are pretty much "youve got it or youve no", but where our keepers have let themselves down is things in which should be coached. Whether or not, our keepers just werent capable of improving or Gennoe wasnt capable of improving them is another matter i suppose. But surely he should have been the one to identify that these keepers (gould, douglas, and hedman) didnt make the grade.
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Used to support Well but I'm alright now
As far as I'm aware the No. 1 jersey at CP belongs to young Sandy Wood. I suppose this is a testiment to how poor our keepers have been in the last few years. Hopefully Boruc will pick up the number next year.
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Richard81, we were assured at the EGM by Peter Lawwell that Artur Boruc does not have an opt-out clause at the end of the season, only Celtic have this. If Celtic choose to keep him they can without reference to his previous club.
I know this seems to contradict most of the press coverage of the situation, but it is the last quoted remark on the subject and we have no reason to suspect it is anything other than correct.
Cheers Big Joe, I hope we see some new faces on Wednesday, though I suspect Gordon might be concerned at the possibility of momentum falling.
Welcome back BlantyreKev. Yes, agree, we will debate the AGM agenda beforehand.
Cheers BoyinENgland.
Seany Bhoy, we will never know what would have happened if Boruc had played against Artmedia, and I know the worst of the faults do not lie with Marshall, but this guy Boruc gets a hand on things most others do not.
I have no doubt he would have stopped at least one of them and proved the difference.
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Interestingly (or maybe not) Sandy Wood is a damn fine goalie on FM2005 has anyone seen him play?
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My abiding memory of Andrews was him getting a round of applause mid way through the second half when me managed for the 1st time in the game to kick the ball out without putting it straight out for a throw. I don't remember if it even went to a Celtic player or not but it at least stay in the field of play.
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Is there any Tims out there right now who in their right mind does NOT reckon Boruc is worth an old Jim McLean 10-year type contract?
Stand up and be counted and instant psychological help shall be sought immediately.
On the subject of blue-tinted journalism(who brought up that subject?) I was interested to note that in today's daily star(I don't buy it, honest guv, it's a chap in the work!) that the most blue tinted of all analysers, Mr Andy Pandy McInnes, seems to be posted missing from his weekly 'Attack the Tims and defend Big Eck' column. Hope it's a permanent arrangement.
This is the same fella who, reporting on last seasons fantastic CL draw at the Nou Camp, stated that "Celtic's disgraceful CL away record continued to a miserable 9 games without a win!" Unbelievable!
How are you today Django?
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Jamiebhoy
People were saying the same thing about BBJ 10 months ago. The loan deal is secure. There is NO need to panic. If Artur continues his good start then he will be a Celtic player ( or rather be contracted to Celtic for a further 3 years...asset management and all that!) It is a WIN-WIN situation for the club. Relax. No need for expensive psychologists...or even Mr Lucas!
SB
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I would like to see wgs tinker with the team for wednesdays match.
Boruc
agathe
balde
duwei/virgo
u21 player?.
sutton/lawson
petrov
nakamura
maloney/mcgeady
zurawaski
beattie
maybe the likes of gardyne on the bench.
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Well stated,
It isn't very hard to say that Artur Boruc is our steadiest goalkeeper in a while. Isn't it interesting that in our not so distant past we had a quality goalkeeps pass right thru Celtic Park unnoticed. I am speaking of the likes of Shay Given and Javier Sanchez Broto. Packie Bonner hanging around one year too many forced Shay to exit south. And I still in my heart believe that if we had Broto between the posts against Bayern Munich that there was no telling just how far we could have gone in the Champions' League. And without a doubt would have taking the UEFA Cup against Porto. I still remember Henrik Larsson stating that he was amazed just how Broto would find him with his such ease with his goal kicks. He never played with a goalkeeper who was so acurate. Oh well, I just hope that the Celtic board learn from their past and sign Boruc long term.
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BlantyreKev - You're right about 'Boroots'. That's the way you should read it. You can read 'Borooch' - it's bad bad not as 'Boorak' or sth. -> Burak mean 'Beetroot' or 'Idiot' in Polish. Regards! (and Heil)
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Camilo,
Agree Broto was one who got away. He was of course cup tied with Livingstone for the UEFA Cup and had been allowed to leave (because of wage demands)before Champions league game in Munich.
SB
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A little bit concerned that we are getting carried away too early on here, but I agree that Boruc has made a very encouraging start - confident, commanding and able to pull off a top class save at a crucial point in the match, witness yesterday's last gasp heroics. We'd be fools not to get him signed up long term ASAP.
Pleased to see Peter Latchford getting a mention above. I can remember watching him get off the team bus at Easter Rd when he made his debut and I don't think I have ever seen a more nervous looking player. He let in a real howler that day when he came out to catch an aimless ball into the box & let it slip into the net. To make matters worse he committed an almost identical error against Partick Thistle not long afterwards (those who witnessed it might recall that Thistle's Danny Kellachan was the beneficiary that day - quite possibly the unlikliest looking footballer of all time).
Despite that, Latchford went on to become a personal favourite of mine. One save in particular at Ibrox comes to mind when, although carrying an injury, he threw himself across goal to push a John Greig header round the post.
Not a Celtic "great" but a player I still remember with affection.
Sorry to get all misty-eyed - & that's without a Stella!
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what are the chances of john kennedy coming back this season at some stage?
he has been a big miss since his terrible injury.
for such a young player his judgement was excellent,ie i never felt he would do anything rash like diving in to make unneccesary tackles
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Just a couple of points if I can...
Although I agree that Boruc looks like he is "going to be" a great keeper is it not a wee bit premature to be be hailing him as the greatest since Simpson....
To date he hasn't really had that much to do although what he has done so far has been very tidy and I agree with previous commenters he exudes confidence.
I'm just wondering how many games it took David Marshall to become the player we think he is now....We are becoming increasing fickle as a support...
On a slightly related subject;
With the Falkirk game on TV on a wet Wednesday night does anyone else think we are going to get our lowest ever attendance at the new Celtic park in competitive competition? (time to rally the troops Paul)
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Thanks for your reply Paul67...
I agree with what you say about the big man whole heartedly, although I still think its a bit unfair on David Marshall. Enough said, I see what your trying to say.
One more point... I aint Rab's biggest fan, but I have to say, I think hes a better keeper for Scotland than Craig Gordon. We all know Rabs concentration wasnt there when he had nothing to do for long periods, he would get a long shot and fumble it. But when the pressure was on, he could be a great shot stopper. I think, for the time being, he has to be scotlands no1. Any other opinions?
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Seany bhoy
Rab - Scotlands No 1: You're a crazy man!
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In regard to the mid week Falkirk game, has it been confirmed that it is not a season ticket game?
The club site does not make this clear.
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Lots of comments about Sproule's performance yesterday. Did you know he comes from the Northern Ireland and is Rangers daft. He had 14 mates at the Rangers-Hibs match, all of whom were supporting Rangers. His brother got interviewed on Ulster TV after his hat-trick, when asked if he was delighted for Ivan he didnt know to laugh or cry, he said that it was a pity that he got them against Rangers, any other team it would have been fantastic. I'll bet he was trying to redeem himself yesterday with his hun hordes and when he was not getting any footballing joy he decided to deck a few Celtic players. Just maybe the ref keeping him on the pitch lessened his glory. I was waiting for a career ending tackle from him on one of our bhoys.
Think back now and make up your own minds now about Sproules performance.
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Tom64,
CIS INSURANCE CUP
CELTIC VS FALKIRK
Our CIS Cup tie against Falkirk will be played at Celtic Park on Wednesday 21st September, kick-off 7:45pm. Season Tickets are not valid for this match.
Tickets are now on General Sale.
From the Official site.
SB
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Tom64
Its not on your season ticket....Tickets were £12 for season ticket holders
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Seany Bhoy-
Big Rab- no.1?
Amsterdam Arena-
Holland -6(six)
Scotland-0(nothing)
nuff said ?
Or have you been at the Stella ?
bibjoefaatherigsthatnow
livesinspainandthinksthetic
willwintheleague-
Yes I was a bhad bhoy last night
thats what happens when you go to a christening with a free bar !
I,m eating humble pie again-
does not taste nice.
noel.
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Cheers Paul,
Get the message re: Boruc's situation, just ive been going on and on and on...for years about this position.I my opinion it has been given scant regard for far too long.So when i see a real prospect the old nerves start to jangle over any ambiguity (real or imagined). Suppose a bit of faith is required (on my part).
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Seany Bhoy
Try talking to a few Leicester fans. They'll tell you the sane story as just about any Celtic, or Scotland fan.
He simply makes to many mistakes with his handling.
And no, Craig Gordon is just a better goalkeeper IMHO
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On the subject of Peter Latchford….
Do you remember him taking a throw-in against Rangers in a midweek draw at Celtic Park? That was in the days when goalies liked to be known as characters.
Chamlio, not wanting to start up a whole new debate, but I sure hope the Celtic board have nothing to do with selecting which goalkeeper to sign. This has been the sole responsibility of the manager for around 40 years now and should remain so.
The board give the manager his budget, it is up to him what he does with it.
As far as Broto is concerned, I suspect we seen the best of him. He has suffered a loss of form since returning to Spain and I don’t believe he was seeing first team football towards the end of last season.
Good call rumoid, I’ll be there on Wednesday (seem to remember you giving me grief when I missed the corresponding game last year).
Seany Bhoy, I don’t rate Craig Gordon in the same way the pundits seem to, so I know where you are coming from with Rab being Scotland No.1, however, he has his hands full (get-it) settling into a new club right now and is the wrong age to be relied upon.
Time to move onto the younger man.
I see where you are coming from richard81.
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Don'tbrattbackinanger, JK should be back in contention by January if all continues to go well. He's back in light training with the first team although he hasn't actually tackled or anything as yet. He is running and doing some light ball work though. His target is Christmas apparently. A word of caution though - just look at Shaun last year when he came back - he wasn't half the player he is now. I'm guessing the start of next season could be more likely, although you never know. I agree, he got injured just as he was starting to look pretty special. Yesterday was the first time I've ever thought McManus looked a bit of a player - he seems to be settling with games and is no longer quite as rash as before.
With regards to Wednesday's game, does everyone else not feel we're getting seriously fleeced by the club? You spend 450 quid on a season ticket and they expect you to spend another 12 to watch a CIS cup match midweek against Falkirk. No wonder nobody expects a big crowd. The same goes with the limited edition third strip. This is a requirement for all clubs in European competition - is it just me or did we not get knocled out? Hence, a black second strip that didn't clash with others would surely be suffice. I know you can't complain that we have no money then complain again when the club try to increase revenue, but sometimes I can't help but feel they take it too far!
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Malone19, Boruc is wearing No.1.
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Timmy7, you are correct! Noticed that on www.soccerbase.com (Online football stats site) earlier today.
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Sober Tom, A black second strip would mean we'd no need a third one at all. A club that have a predominently green first strip should surely not have a green away strip! Bring back the bumble bee! Or the lime green one from the eighties!
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Rossio,
The gate money has to be split with Falkirk I think. If it was a Season Ticket game would Falkirk be entitled to half of 60,000 even if we didn't all attend? Not sure but I do think it will be very poorly attended. As for the Limited Edition 3rd Strip, whilst I agree it is a bit much 3 in a season for the weans, we dont need to buy it Du Wai? (apologies right away for that one!)
SB
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A wee thing that has got me thinking……….
From what I have heard or read on the subject in the past couple of years, Didier Agathe is a woeful trainer. He has a reputation of showing absolutely nothing on the training ground but when pitched into the rough and tumble of a game, he is Da Man.
Now, Gordon Strachan has the reputation of a coach who likes to get his hands dirty on the training ground.
So where does that leave Didier if he lives up to his own reputation in the here and now of being a bad trainer?
Does Gordon forget about what he has seen at Barrowfield and pitch Didier straight in or does he wait to see improvement at Barrowfield that justifies his future inclusion?
A potential quandary?
PS – a wee fashion tip for the guys on here that have purchased that horrible green away shirt. Wear it with black jeans or very faded blue jeans.
Wearing aforementioned top with traditional denims is a major fashion faux-pas (colour clash – yeugh) that a few guys unfortunately succumbed to yesterday.
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Thanks for the fashion tip, dialupcelt - any thoughts on accessories? I always think they are soooo important.
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Re-goalies
Anybody remember Denis Connaghan throwing the ball into his own net
versus St.Mirren?
Packie Bonnar punching the ball into his net from a corner against
rangers ?
Ian(julie)Andrews never recovered from the 5-1 tanking at ibrox in
August 1988 and was soon replaced
by a rather tubby Alan Rough who-as Paul already pointed out-performed rather well for a while.
My own favourite was Alister Hunter
-who we acquired from Kilmarnock
after a couple of brilliant displays against us in a Scottish Cup semi-final and the subsequent replay(which we won).
Ally performed well for us until he
played at Wembley in a defeat from england.
After that game he suffered a serious loss of form and never quite recovered to his previous standard.
noel.
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Rossio,
Even better, the green and black vertical striped one.
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thanks for the info on john k,rossio
we used to have an away strip the same shade of shiny green as those chocolate lime sweets you get
we wore it at love st when we won the league under davie hay
this was the same week as chernobyl so we all would have got drenched in radio-active rain,not that we were caring
if albert kidd is still around we could maybe wheel him out for whoever the jambos are playing against at the end of this season
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How long before sproules wearing the blue of the sooth side?. Well I hope they have to pay through the nose for him. Dangerous we guy, bobo should have eh how can I put it boboed him.
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just gave myself an awful fright
remember the previous psts on ugly
rangers keepers ?
try this-if your brave enough...
http://www.ntvcelticfanzine.com/
gallery9itcamefromibrox.htm
Not for the faint hearted....
noel.
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No problem Dick.
It’s free advice – no catches.
And don’t you be worrying about accessories.
We’ll move on to them once we’ve mastered the basics.
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Good, positive thread. It's early days yet regarding Boruc, but everything in his background points to him being a an excellent keeper.
Certainly, he was the difference between victory and defeat yesterday.
I also thought Camara had a decent game, and I like the black strip!
I'm a bit worried about the "Don't say anything negative about Celtic" comments however (on the previous thread). As I've stated before, the decisions that our management take on behalf of Celtic the institution are not always the correct ones, and we should all strive to protect the thing we profess our love for - Celtic. Not Peter Lawell, not Gordon Strachan, but Celtic. That a journalist might pick over the carcass of a long dead thread to find negative things to say to Camara, does not point to negligence on our part. Rather it showcases the crass, boorish nature of our journalists. This problem is with our jounalists, not with the fans who espouse an opinion. We should be fearless in preaching our ethos for what we believe to be the best interests of our club. We shouldn't be looking over our shoulders in fear of a journalist! After all, do any of us really believe that if the journalist hadn't read CQN he would have asked Camara a nice question? I think not. If fans are to be denied the right to discuss an opinion with their peers then we might as well give up. We care about Celtic. Sometimes along the way that involves saying harsh things to people, or about people. Sometimes the club need to be shaken into action. How can we do this when we don't air our views? Would the Sack the Board boycott have been successful if he had kept our thoughts to ourselves? Would that have been in the best interests of Celtic? I'm not saying the current situation is like that, but we mustn't give up our freedoms because there are some who would abuse that right. Sometimes you have to accept that the price of having freedom is that others will seek to exploit it. We can counter measure this in a far, far more effective way. Lets organise proper boycotts of the Scottish media. Last time this happened it cost a Daily Record editor his job. Rather than self censorship, lets give the media a bloody nose. We're a big demographic and we give the journalists their power through our purchase of the papers. It's in our hands ultimately.
/p
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Noel,
Never mind ugly Rangers goalies! I was watching Champions League match highlights on Sky last Tuesday when suddenly a screen sized Halloween Cake appeared live from the Death Star. Scary stuff! But Sky is an incrypted Channel without a 10 o'clock watershed.
SB
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P8ddy,
You moved me.
I doff my cap to you.
Tomwhoiswaitingforhometimeandhisfirstwhiskeyoftheevening
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Roughie only played about 7 or 8 games for the hoops first team and let in almost as many goals!
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Paul,
that was my thoughts on yesterdays game, it reminded me of so many games last season. A solitary goal lead and holding on to avoid grim death (and we all know what happens when you put yourself in that position often enough). Overall I was bit disappointed yesterday, but the main thing was getting the 3 points.
On Big Artur, he seems to be the keeper we all hoped he would be. He is not allowing many chances to happen for the opposition with his command of the box and defence, when they do get a chance he is more than up to it.
A wee bit harsh on Packie's vulnerability, I can remember the English media touting him as one of the world's best around Euro '88. He came into the Celtic team as an 18 year old and held the jersey for well over a decade. That is a lot of games, therefore more opportunities for the odd lapse / loss of form to occur.
He is also a man well used to the Leabgarrow and Leabrannagh areas, so I am a wee bit protective!! :-)
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Noel90,
Nice memories but a couple of factual errors.
Connaghan threw the ball into his own net against Airdrie at Broomfield. I think it was a League Cup game and we were well ahead - hence Jock Stein greeted the o.g. by laughing his head off! Big Dennis's moment of glory was the 1974 Scottish Cup Final against Dundee United when he made an incredible save from a young Andy Gray with the score at 1-1. Walter Smith, the United skipper, wisnae pleased!
As for Ally Hunter, I remember him making a blinding stop against Dundee at Hampden in a Scottish Cup replay in 1973. He, in fact, played very well against England at Wembley that year, when England's 1-0 win was secured by an incredible save by Peter Shilton from a Kenny Dalglish shot. Ally's loss of confidence followed the crucial World Cup qualifier agaiinst Czechoslovakia a few months later when he let a Nehoda shot squirm under his body. Ironically, that was the glorious night when goals from Big Jim Holton (RIP) and Joe Jordan took Scotland to the 1974 World Cup. But Ally was dropped from the Scotland team and never regained his confidence.
Packy's punch into his own net was from an early Robert Prytz corner in a brilliant 3-2 win for the Bhoys at Celtic Park in the early 1980s. I'm sure a young Paul McStay scored in that game and Frank McGarvey got the winner. Pitch dark, pouring rain, packed Jungle... SHEER BLISS!
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Johnbhoy, I thought it was against Ayr at somerset?
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John_H
I have a vague recollection of having the striped green and black strip, must have been based on the Milan clubs. Think it came out in early-mid 70s ?? I would vote for that one again!!
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Favourite comment re goalies has to be after Stewart Kennedy let in five against Engerlund: "In America they shot two Kennedys for less"
Sadly. I'm old enough to remember Dennis Connaghan's og - pretty sure it was Airdrie at Broomfield. Nurse, where's my zimmer?
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johnbhoy-
far be it for me to pull
anybody up about factual
errors-my memory gets worse
by the minute-but the score in that 1974 cup final was never 1-1 at any point,you see We won 3-0-
GOTCHA !!!
and your are correct wattie smith was not a happy chap-I think he got hooked that day.
Leabgarrow-
there is no chance of me ever slagging off the sainted Mr. Bonnar
- I met the big chap half way up Errigal this summer(well, I was half way up-he was half way down!).
Another nice man.
Johnbhoy-
pitch dark,pouring rain-was it not Murdo that got the winner that dark afternoon?-ran the length of the park onto a Charlie Nicholas pass,scored and sank to his knees
soaking wet and knackered !
bibjoefaatherigsthatnowlivesinspain
didyoureadwhattom64wroteat5.01?
seewhatyouhavestarted-again?
noel.
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While I think it is premature to judge our latest goalie, between the sticks is deffo one of the most important positions. Look at Man U since they lost Peter Schmeichel ... not the same force they were. As someone else said, look at Chelsea now with Petr Chech. From what I've seen though, it looks like we may have a gem in (King) Artur.
All the best
corpachbhoy
PS Django is deffo a manifestation of one of Fargo's multiple personalities. There is no disguising the writing style
PPS Chmeilofan Did you mean to write "Heil" rather than "Hail" or is that the Polish spelling.
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Paul67 et al
I posted this yesterday and I am still livid about the injustice we seem unable to abate. I would like to see if any legal eagles out tere think there is something to this.
Spoule's yellow card. Lift your hands and you are off period….right?
Football to some degree is a business and should therefore be covered by normal business convention or law - to what level this applies, I don’t know. (This is what I would like to see tested).
Crying about secretarian bias I don’t think is going to change the situation. Been done, when we approch the issue this way we are marginalized as paranoia. For anyone who has read “Crimes against Logic’ this is a well used approach. Attack the presenter of the issue rather than addressing the issue, discredit the source to discredit the argument. Of course it does not in pure logical terms but since we don't control the media the choose to focus the presenters. This allowe sthe debate to shift to something safer.
So claiming malintent on the grounds of religious bigotry has been well worn and fruitless path. Time for a paradigm shift - here is my proposal.
Lets move this onto a empirical path rather than an anecdotal one. Lets take it on as a purley business issue. We are operating in a inequitable business environment, leave emotion out of it.
Investors surely in another line of business would seek remedy for being exposed to an unfair business environment. Being excluded from the tendering process would have any company up in arms…Call the lawyers!!! Unfortunately this less clear cut more like a HR issue. So we need to build a case. I would start by hiring a very prominent international ref (Retired) to review the last 3 yrs of stock footage and set up a team to report back on the outcomes of games of ourselves and our main competitors for the rst of the season. Sample size would be our closest 6 competitor’s games. We must make it about more than just Rangers as this has to be a methodical unemotional process and perhaps played out in a forum less parochial than Scotland. Brussels perhaps.
If we aspire to be a world leader in the sports entertainment business lets start with the end in mind. Let’s nurture and protect our brand.
Lets send the message we will not be messed with we will fight our corner.
Any corporate lawyers out there think this could have legs????
Lisburn Lion thinks Fergus tried something in this vien. Any recolections of this?
I think even the threat of having a unbiased expert review decisions may help
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Paul67 et al...
I agree, Rab aint the best keeper in the world... but IMHO hes certainly better than Craig Gordon! Dont get me wrong, I see where some of the comments about the wee man are rightly deserved, but its getting a bit OTT, u know? Whenever someone does something right, hes our saviour. Craig Gordon aint as good as the majority of pundits would have you believe. Why would The Farts still be looking for a goalie?
Rightly so, you & others have pointed out hes busy sorting out his club career atm and tbh I would rather he wasnt Scotlands keeper - too many bad memories(but if im honest none of the quality kids coming through are quite ready yet). Marshall cant get a game for us, and the loon down @ Farts is having to prove himself there while they look for another goalie.
I agree with lots of the comments regarding, lets give Boruc time. He needs to complete a season, then we can see what hes made of. Then, if we take him on a full-time/permanent contract we can see if hes gonna continue to do the deed. Or (touch wood) hes a lazy so & so who just wants a wage n a bit o glamour (which I can already say I dont think is the case!).
I have heard a few people say (on this site) that wether we buy Boruc now or later doesnt matter, its all been agreed and all we need to do is say, ok, done deal. If im right, this is not the case... All which has been agreed would be the fee(believed to be about £800,000?) WGS still needs to sit down with the player w/e the situation arises, and agree a wage, etc... This would be standard practice for any loan with future to buy deals, also... PL & WGS has already said last week they were about to start negotiations with the player. (Didnt they?) Anyhoo, I think he'll be our man deffo by January, to ward off any other outside interest... Sure we have first option, but that doesnt stop anyone else attracting him...
(Arsenal badly need a good keeper!)
Anyhoo, KTF... Hail! Hail!
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woops, second paragraph is about rab... typo's!!!
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Noel90,
Good riposte from a fellow anorak. What I MEANT to say was that Connaghan saved from Gray when the score was 1-0. And you're right about Murdo's winner in 1982-83. Was it Frankie Bhoy who got the equaliser with a typical header?
Talking of goalies, two of my favourite memories are of keepers simply holding the ball.
Remember Latchford at the end of the 1-0 "Riot" Cup Final in 1980? He held a cross then, as the final whistle blew, simply held the ball to his ample gut like a kerry-oot and raised his other arm in triumph, his face now wearing a gloriously smug grin.
And then there was the St Mirren keeper Jim Stewart (ex-Hun) who in May 1986 held a simple cross with the score at 5-0 Celts - then almost filled his shorts with fright when the terracings erupted to greet Albert Kidd's goal at Dens Park against Hearts.
The look of fear and bemusement on his face was a joy to behold.
Oh Hoopy Daze!
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Sanfran_Tic
-I definetly like your proposal-
but unfortunately I,m not that legal minded(unless getting chased by strathclydes finest through the backstreets of Govan counts!).
I think the time you are referring to is when the then Celtic Chief Executive -Alan McDonald -sent a video of hugh dallas, pathetic performance in the rangers 3-0 win at Celtic Park
-the original"shame game" to a sports psychologist who agreed that dallas had been over friendly and "emotional" towards the rangers players.
When the scottish red tops got a hold of this they had a field day
-with words like"paranoia !","Celtics, paranoia","paranoid Celtic"and -
ok-you get the picture.....
If this does happen it would have to be by someone without reproach in the soccer world.
It would have to be completed in utter secrecy.
When finished, the bulky tome(I can,t imagine it being anything but),would have to be released to respected publishers in the football world i.e. any publication that is not a Scottish tabloid.
good luck
noel.
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HAIL HAIL!!!!!!!! .mon da hoops
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Johnbhoy-
yup! your right-the bold Frank did
equalise that day.
That was a fantastic victory that day but it remains inextricably linked(in my mind) to our fate in the European Cup that season.
Four days later we played Real Sociedad in the return leg after a
0-0(?) draw in San Sebastian.
We lost 2-1 and, after our heroics in the Olympic Stadium against Ajax in the previous round,
we were soooooo disapointed.
yeah-mibbee I am an anorak-but a CELTIC anorak !
;~}
noel.
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Ah could have kissed Boruc yesterday,sitting waiting on Celtic for a correct score fivesome
when he pulled off that save ah knew the bet was in the bag.
Incidently did anyone notice Riordan standing in a blatantly offside position at the same incident in replay the linesman has his flag firmly at his side.
Peter Latchford...av seen old wardrobes go down quicker.As one wag said at a game for F... sake Latchford Ronnie Simpson would have saved that wae a bag a coal ownies back.
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.………………………….
Noel90.……………………………...........................
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………………………..
Yes I have had my fare share of that……………………
Humble Pie……………………………….............................
Neeps and spuds………………………………....................
Always better with a few beers or a few …
Hang on ………………………………..
I amen’t going down that road again………………..
Or I will get a row 2.……………………………..................................
Paul67
Interesting to see GS……………………………….....
Criticising Naka………………………………..................
Or do you think he was misquoted………………………………..
Or is this just his way……………………………….
Of motivating players………………………………...........
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainandthinkstheticwillwintheleague
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Enjoying the debate about "oor Artur"
I like the way he seems to be almost bored by the proceedings when called in to action.
He has a look almost of "jeez I've got to do some work here"
In a strange way that instills real confidence and he seems more than capable of dishing out some verbals to the sieve when they need it.
I've also enjoyed the trip down memory lane with Ronnie Simpson, John Fallon, Evan Williams, Big Peter, Packie and others - it only served to remind me that for all that they were real gentlemen other than Ronnie they tended to induce too many heart stopping moments in games.
Big Jock and MON are arguably two of the greatest managers that we ever had but they were less than useless when it came to picking and signing goalkeepers.
It seems to me that WGS has at least an eye for the goalies position (he did turn Niemi from being second rate - copyright Daily Record - to one of the best keepers in the EPL) and he seems to have found a real gem in Boruc
Marshall is good and it can only be to the benefit of Celtic that we have an inspiring new number 1 and a potentially great young understudy to follow him in the future.
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.………………………….
I don’t know how all you old boys………………………………........... Can remember who saved what in 1982.…………
Come on………………………………..................
I bet ½ you cant remember………………
Where you parked the car………………………………...
TerryO'Neill 9:11 PM,……………………………....................
I might be wrong………………………………...............
Probably am………………………………....but
But I think the new O-side rule……………………………..
States that the linesman keeps his flag down………………
Unless the player interferes with play……………………………..
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhostartedthisdaftlongnamedthingaftereachpost.
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Sorry
Slight typo in last post meant to say Big Jock and MON are arguably our two greatest managers that we ever had.
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bibjoewhostartedthislongnamething
Can,t even remember where we parked our cars in 1982?
Thats easy-
nobody had any cars in those days.
or houses.
If my memory serves me right-
my entire family(including aunts,uncles and cousins) was brought up under a bush in Queen,s Park until we were evicted for non-payment of council tax and forced to share a two storey shoebox with Tommy Sheridan,his family and other non-council tax payers which was located under the kingston bridge.
So-
bibjoefaatherigsthatcanaffordtoliveinspain-
THINK YOURSELF LUCKY !
;~}
noel.
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.………………………….
I cant remember whear I parked the car 2night………………………………...................................
Right………………………………..........
Live Long And Prosper……………………………….....................
Menana………………………………......................
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhostartedthisdaftlongnamedthingaftereachpost.
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Paul
ever got the train/bus home to find you had driven to work
or else gone to the pub and got wrecked, got a taxi home only to remember the car is parked in town and you were supposed to take the kids somewhere first thing in the morning
agree with you that Boruc is something special but all our goalies have
suffered from the major problem of how to remain focused in a team that is generally winning most games easily
he has yet to experience this problem!
VertWolf
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Don't know if someone has posted this before, but Neil Lennon is taking his lawyer in to the Kangaroo court tomorrow! Factors to be considered.
By the way did anyone listen to Real Radio and that Ewan Cameron who insisted that Lenny gets at least a 8 game ban. The huns phoning up wanted 12 games!
If it was an 8 game ban and Celtic
appealed guess what game Lenny would miss?
Oh and Sproule where's the clamout there!
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Sorry Clamour!
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Paul and guys
Great discussion on our goalies. Is this why so many Celtic buses are Number 1's? As a plea to our managers over the years to sign a goalie we can rely on?
Deep down I think it comes down to that fatal, but loveable all the same, Celtic mindset of, it doesn't matter what happens at the back, we'll just bang some more in at the other end. And we got away with it so often! Best not to think about what we'd have achieved had somebody really decent.
Must say, I like everything about King Artur. he commands everything. Agile, solid and unflappable. He also looks totally nuts, surely an essential pre-requisite for a top goalie.
Evan Williams/Ally Hunter/Big Peter/Packie/Gordon Marshall/Rab, all fundamentally decent blokes. The kind of guys you want to live next door. But guarding our team's goal?
If Artur played for TFOD he'd look like some neo-Nazi fellow traveller. But for us he just looks cool....
BTW and completely off topic, I'm taking Taggsybhoy senior to the game on Saturday. Its his birthday and he's 82 years young. Trying to make the day special. Any idea how I get a birthday greeting on the scoreboards at halftime?
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Hi all, Just seen on the bbc sport site the TFOD are shuffling their top men about some moved and some booted out. Is there anything in this paul as they have moved George adams to me any way nearly oot the door. Big mcleland booted oot as a few familiar names also.
On radio clyde tonight big DJ says the rest of the pack are trailing the jamtarts by 8 pts mmmm sorry Dj u are we are only 5 and after sat it will be 11
Best football in 1st half yesterday since the anderlecht game
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Hi All
not sure if this has been posted already today - the link below is where UEFA say the Deathstar is located - I beg to differ
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/TravelZone/city=701/maps/Stadium=57796.html
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SanFranTic, there is no rule that says if you raise your hands you should be sent off, the decision is left to the referees interpretation.
I like you empirical approach and think it is excellent advice, but we will need to look hard for something beyond reproach.
The perfect example of which was when Fergus patiently took on the SFA who tried to protect their chief exec but ultimately failed. Jim Farry lost his job for failing to register Cadette for several weeks at a critical near the end of a tight season.
Open and shut case right at the top of the SFA. What good did it do us? Apart from being on the record books allowing us to call precedent in the future it did not help Celtic at all.
Seany Bhoy, I have heard that Celtic need to meet with Boruc’s agent to finalise the details of the new contract, however, this does not mean that Celtic have an agreed option from the player as they have claimed.
JohnBhoy, you unearthed a hidden memory there. The moment the goal came in from Dens in 1986 as Jim Stewart was holding the ball. Watched that game on video many, many times.
Noel, we lost 2-0 in San Sebastien, two late goals, and won 2-1 at Celtic Park.
Big Joe, I understand that GS is a hard taskmaster. No favourites.
Done the opposite Vertwolf, thought I had driven to work and got to the car park before I remembered I had got the train. Doh.
Newtaggsybhoy, instructions on getting your dads details on the video are in the View – you need to pay for it btw.
Enjoy the day.
EKBHOY68, thanks for the info on Rangers, I was not aware of it. I’ll see what I can find out. There is trouble in Govan – you can take that to the bank……
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NewtaggsyBhoy,
I think details of how to get a message on the video screens are in the Celtic View. Either that or contact the club. Believe they may take a few quid from you for the privilege. Ach, but the auld yin's worth it, eh? ;-)
I've just posted a full Hibs match report on:
http://celticfcblog.blogspot.com
All welcome!
JohnBhoy
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105 responses and not a mention of Frank Haffey. Now there should be many stories here for a cult hero in his day.
CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD SPROULE INCIDENT
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Anyone else impressed that GS actually went to the SFA summer refereeing seminar. Not only that, he was the only SPL Manager there!! I like that sort of dedication and attention to detail.
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few points
imo dropping of varga is key to the defence - no communication with bobo - couldn't jump much higher than he stands - slow
agathe - fastest and best tackler but also most one footed & possibly worst passer (also fannys about with ball in tight situations)
not much all-round between him and telfer (btw i'm a fan of agathe)
big fan of kennedy but lets hope mcmanus improves with each game as he has done - time was when new center halves were afforded almost a season to settle in fully with rest of defence and keeper. If mcmanus improves and maintains form then jersy should be his.
boruc save at death - this was one of big rabs kind of saves - big rab was worst with long shots, frees, crosses and runs out to edge of area
liked full length save from boruc better - good footwork and deliberate parry to away from goal
loved boruc's piss take v aberdeen with ball at feet in front of goal
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Fascinating news from Mordor Park that George Adams has been ousted as head of the Young Huns development programme. They've plumped for the relatively-unknown Craig Mulholland, who runs their community scheme.
In essence, they're turning Mordor Park over to coachloads of kids paying over the odds (they offered my youth team a two-hour session for 120 quid!) while the so-called "elite" programme takes a back seat. So much for their "conveyor belt" of talent.
This is purely a financial move which tells us:
a) They're skint and need lots of moolah FAST!
b) Mordor Park is a white elephant which they need to squeeze more revenue out of.
c) They have given up trying to rear their own players and will instead plunder the Bosman market.
The Mint's empire is showing signs of crumbling!
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I see WGS has been invited to partake of tea and cake with Mcvicar and the other cronies at referee.com. Would this be due to WGS being a bigger fish now in a smaller pond ie he s in at the big bbc and might just spill da beans, or is it that they want to boot his candy balls into touch?.
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Al Obundy, Bobo did do a boboed on Sproule. He was writhing on the floor in agony for a few secs after a crunching Bobo tackle then he just miraculosuly jumped up. At that point you could tell he had vengenence on his mind, red mist had descended. Minutes later the Telfer incident happened.
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.…………………………….....
OK……………………………….........................
Can any 1 explain………………………………....
What’s going on at piebrox………………………..
Paul67, 11;37pm.……………………………..................................
“There is trouble in Govan – you can take that to the bank……”
Please can someone pass on any info………………………………....
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhostartedthisdaftlongnamedthingaftereachpost.
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There's a good article in the Herald this morning about Lenny's case today. It's the first sensibly written and objective piece I've read on the subject. The Hearts guy (I'm not even going to attempt to spell that!) got 8 games reduced to 6, but this was 3 games automatically for red cards and 3 games additional ban. It suggests that the only fair outcome is the same 3 game ban for Lenny. I fear it'll be much worse, for a far less serious case. The SPL said at the time there had been rule changes since that incident hence Lenny won't be dealt with in the same manner. I like these rule changes - the same ones that got Thommo sent off twice at ibrox and no doubt save Sproule from video evidence...
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Radio Scotland sportsdesk after 8 am piece...."At half past we look forward to Lennon at Hampden". Nice choice of words from our impartial friends at BBC Scotland. When exactly did Sandy Clarkes wife get a job reading the weather/news/traffic/Rangers News with them?
SB
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.…………………………….....
Seanbhoy………………………………................................
Its just typical of the media in Scotland…………………..
The sooner we move to the EPL…………………………..
The better………………………………........
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhostartedthisdaftlongnamedthingaftereachpost.
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just had to double-check in a mate's paper that they were writing about lenny and not pol pot
i shouldn't let it get to me but...
on a happier note good to see frank mcgarvey's name crop up in the discussion on the 3-2 game-the most unselfish player we had before henke
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Hi Paul67 et al.
I am back after munching large slices of humble pie, and my apologies for past petulance. I ran off in the huff, when my heartfealt comments were rebuked by other posters. Things where said in the heat of the moment, and I would be delighted if you welcomed me back into the CQN collective??
KTF,
PB
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Ah, Goalkeepers Jock didnt trust them. He didnt like goalkeepers at all.
It seems his protege has the same problem at ManUtd, fergie could hardly be called a great judge of goalkeepers.
Thank God for Ronnie Simpson and the run in Jock had with him earlier in his career didnt affect his Celtic career. When Ronnie heard Jock was coming to Celtic he said to the wife pack your bags agiain looks like were going. We can be grateful that didnt happen.
Lets not get carried away with Boruc give him a couple of more months and when(if) he makes a mistake dont come on and slaughter him like we did to Marshall.
But he does look impressive.
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The Polar Bear
Were there Penguins in those humble pies?
welcome back
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Agree mostly with what has been said regarding Boruc, although, one swallow does not a summer make. Lets reserve such plaudits until he has played at least half a season. He will have bad days, and is guaranteed to make a couple of howlers (all keepers do). Lets see how he and the fans reacts to this!!
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Cavansam - Indeed there was.
Thanks for the welcoming cuddle!!
It warms my heart!
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Paul67 - I know it's a bit early by any idea of the sort of budget GS will have to work with in the january and summer transfer windows next year?
Also - have you heard if the scouts are looking at anymore bosmans - there's a few decent players out of contract in the summer (Willy Sangol at Bayern being one).
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Sorry - I think my comments re: Boruc are just an echo of Adrian1888's.
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A pedant writes -
Polar bears and penguins occupy opposite ends of the globe. Hence it is highly unlikely a polar bear would have penguin on the menu.
Unless a cruel zoo keeper tosses some birdees the Polar Bear's way.
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Welcome back Polar Bear.
Ottokaiser, I understand that any expenditure in January will be determined trading, not fresh budget. There are too many possibilities open at the moment to say what the budget will look like next summer. Add to this the fact that there are several new elements in our finances which make projecting difficult.
Will keep you posted if I hear anything.
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Good work Tom64 - A learned blogger (madmitch i think) once tried to test me. I ate his liver with a nice chianti and some fava beans...... ftftftftf!!!
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Don't think I'm out of the business.Still watching the games, and reading the news.Regarding last match, maybe my opinion is controversial but if the was a referee decision to give penalty for a foul in a box you shoudn't be suprized. The Hibs player was ALSO pushed away. I will repeat after a few weeks Telfer's play doesn't satisfy me as well as Camara's play ; no centre passes from him into the box.
Zurawski's play typical when he plays under the oponent's pressure.Plays the ball around the box looking for a chance for a long distance shot.Regarding Boruc we are happy you like him and value very high. In Legia Warsaw we have good successor.In 2 years our 20 years old goalie is will be not worse than Artur.
Rossio: there was no mistakes from Artur in Poland v. Austria match.
BlantyreKev: Chmielofan is right Boruc= Boroots ( or Borootz, "tz" at the end like it sings Gary Brooker in " Hotel Ritz")
There is another very important Boruc's advantage: I don't remember any injury of this player.
Fiday last week there was a information in a polish newspaper that Artur's agent Jaroslaw Osuch will be in Glasgow this week to negotiate long term contract.I think It's true.
Remember Artur, clap clap Boroots, clap clap.
Zbyszek Legia fan
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Zbyszek - I'm just back from a couple of weeks on the lovely isle of Crete - I watched the Poland - Wales game in one of the local howffs. It was heaving with red and white painted faces. Whenst I revealed I was a Celtic man, your very generous countrymen furnished my belly with about 6 pints of Mythos!!
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Thanks for the update Zbyszek. I agree our full back positions are far from convincing. We have several defenders waiting to come into the team and I hope this brings about a positive change.
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re-sproule-
Can,t believe the petulant little brat isn,t up at the sherrif court
today on assault charges.
he can think himself lucky he wasn,t "Boboed"(cheers Al Obundy).
AAAAAND he just lost all that goodwill from the Celtic support
he earned himself a couple of weeks
ago !
Disgraceful refereeing.
Of course there is now precedent for trial by television-
ricksen (twice)
Bobo
Surely the little runt should be strung up for this ?
Good luck Lenny-your going to need it.
Anybody got any idea who is going to be the hanging judge at Neil Lennons' "trial" today ?
noel.
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Anyone got the transfer code for the herald fantasy football?
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Ryn,
try 9682
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Noel,
There seems to be a divided opinion on the sproule incident.
The TV folk say 'diplomatic decision by the ref' whilst the rest of us see it for what it was..a breach of the peace.
Did you see him attack Bobo as Bobo hustled him away?
Guys do that on the street and the police would be on them in an instant. Same old double standards.
Do these guys not understand that they are role models for children and young adults?
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thepolarbear-
hiya-
was your bhoy not on here a couple of weeks ago?
he was looking for his mum.
noel.
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It was assault on Balde. Simple as that and add fuel to the paranoia he threw some punches at Telfer too. I dont think Telfer was innocent however that little git should have been OFF without doubt. Balde was doing the decent thing pulling him away, also thought Balde played well on Sunday!.
C'mon The Hoops
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thepolarbear
People call it "polish hospitably".
You saw it on Crete. Can you imagine what could happen if you were in Poland that day? No you can't. Anyway, the nations of ISLES are liked by us very much.Same as from US.
Zbyszek Legia fan
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I think Lenny will be hung, drawn and quartered.Unfortunately he has put himself in the position to allow them to do what they have been wanting to do for years-make an example of the upstart.How dare he-a red headed Catholic from northern ireland-not bow the knee to his betters.
I reckon he will be out until after the next hun game-so about 8/9 games ban.
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Cheers Peat Blog,
Now to see if I can move upwards from mediocrity.
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Two main things struck me about the spoule things (two main things struck Bobo and telfer too, but they were the wee thug's limbs), both of which relate to the referee. The first thing is that to book the three players he did was the easiest and cheapest way out/decision he could made. By the letter of the law you could misconstrue Balde's involvement into a booking in ways Scottish refs know very well how to do, Telfer was involved in a 'square up', whilst doing nothing technically wrong as he was involved it looks okay to the referee to go "you shouldnt have been involved, booking for you!". And by ONLY booking sproule he has (big scottish media quote for any player against Celtic) "used common sense". You can pick holes in the reasoning behind the three booking all day as all three in different ways were ridiculous. The other main thing about the incident which I think has been vastly underplayed, was the fact that the ref actually had to physically restrain the wee pitbull. Does that not strike you of being slightly more punishable than Balde and Telfer's involvement...
If Lenny recieves anything like the same leniancy as his countryman then he should recieve a full apology for his one match ban he's already recieved...
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tom,michael-
lets not kid ourselves
if Neil Lennon had launched an unprovoked assault on a couple
of opposition players like sproule did-he would have been hauled off
the park by the police,stuck in the back of a meatwagon and not seen till he was up in front of a sheriff the next day.
Obviously with his burst lip and battered face-the cops would alledge that"he fell down some stairs.....". Before the sheriff
sentenced him to 25 years hard labour on devils island....
noel.
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Hi Paul,
My own take on the Sproule incident, and I'll admit I'm only going by what I've seen on the box. When both he and Telfer squared up, both should have been booked, along with a word from the ref about future behaviour. When Balde intervened Sproules reaction was a different manner altogether and deserved a straight red for violent conduct, As a few folk have mentioned it was an assault. Therefore my view on the incident, Balde is blameless and deserves credit for not retaliating, Telfer a yellow for his part in the initial incident and Sproule a yellow followed by a straight red.
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No matter how many times you watch the Sproule incident, there is no way he should have been allowed to stay on the park.
There is little point in trying to rationalise the referee's decision because there was no logic to it. It was bad refereeing - simple as that.
There will be the usual talk of Celtic's paranoia. However, the incident is clear for all to see and should rightly be highlighted by Celtic fans.
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Edward, you again surprise by calling it as you see it.
Agree on Sproule and Telfer, Bobo also knew exactly how he was holding Soroule by the neck. In mitigation of the young Irishman (did you like that :-)
Sunday was only his second start for Hibs. He has had a big month and all reactions were simply that – reactions. I have been there, 3 seconds later you think ‘what happened there?’
I have not commented on the player before now, as while I was very surprised he did not see red, I have no issue with the player.
I am sure the Celtic players would have shrugged the incident off.
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I know I generally steer clear about commenting on players on a personal basis.But does anyone else agree that there is "something of the night" about Sproule.Noticed it against Rangers but put it down to not being chuffed about scoring against them ,but in close ups on Sunday-a sort of vacant zombie look about him.
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Completely off topic can someone give me some advice regarding this query?
I am a season ticket holder, and would like to bring my young son to a forthcoming match for his 4th birthday.
I e-mailed the ticket office in June but got no reply. I told them I was unwilling/unable to pay for 2 seats next to each other whilst my season ticket would not be used.
I would appreciate any ideas on the above.
Thanks
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It's interesting the previous mention about young keeper Sandy Wood.
I took Mrs Spiers down Ayr beach last week, and finished up with that as well.
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ardmaca
Do you know either of the guys/gals that sit either side of you at Celtic Park?
If so you could ask them if they'd sit in a seat (bought by you for one match) so that your kid can sit beside you.
Seems like the easiset solution unless you know someone who has two seats together and then do a swap for one game.
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ardmaca,
You could try this; go to tickets, buy tickets online. You will have to register if not already done so.
Then click on the area where you sit and with a bit of luck ther will be tickets available in that area. Maybe not next to your seat but with a bit of friendly negotiation you should be ok.
Your son's ticket will cost £12 for U-16.
Good luck.
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Noel90 - I remember some time back there was an antartic imposter in our midst!! He claimed to be my son..... dont know anything about it!! Honest!
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Thanks cavansam. My problem is that I am only able to travel from Ireland for a few matches througout the year, and don't really know the fans on either side well enough.
I think I will contact a supporters club here and work something out.
I thought maybe the ticket office would have have lots of similar enquiries and been able to offer some advice. But to not even acknowledge my e-mail is diabolical customer service.
I liked the idea mentioned on this site about a scheme run by Barcelona for season ticket holders to offer their ticket for sale.
Being a season ticket holder for over 10 years, I am reluctant to give this up. But beacuse of family committments and finance my ticket is going to waste for much of the year.
Anyway thanks again cavansam for your advice- appreciate it
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Paul67 - news on BBC site that the Huns have been granted planning permission for a "Las Vegas Style Casino".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4264114.stm
I thought this was a non-starter?
Linked with a Las Vegas company too - Fargo is an imposter.
That is all!
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Sorry cavansam,
You beat me to it.
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Mr Spiers-
I bet you were up all night thinking about that one.
must have been hard.....
noel.
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Cheers Shabhoy
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Aware of All
being granted permission to apply for the licence and actually getting it are 2 very different things.i cant see them being the best bid for the 1 regional super casino.im sure there will be bids from places in a bit more up market than govan
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RAB1888
I hope you're right and this is another speculative investment as astute as Tore Andre Flo was.
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Ardmaca,
Buy a ticket for your son in any area of the ground and then use your own season ticket to get in the same gate/area as is printed on his ticket you will then be able to find two seats together for all but the big games. The only area of the season ticket that shows your seat area is the front page which you normally don't show when going through the turnstiles. My mate does this all the time. He can also find his way from one area of the stadium to another with no problems including from upper tier to lower and vice versa.
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Paul-
is there a press conference at Hampden today after Neil Lennon,s
hearing?
If there is will you be there ?
noel.
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I thought this Rangers super casino was a dead duck - not according to the BBC - anyone got any info ??
link
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Ibrox casino development:
Only the first step, the big issue in this is the license to operate a "Super" casino and this will be decided at a national level. Although other, smaller, licenses will be available the "Super" model is where the money is.
Original plans had no limits to the numbers but after a vociferous campaign by the Daily Mail and others current plans allow for only one such casino to be licensed.
The most likely location for this will be Blackpool with the possibility that more will be allowed if it becomes a success and other cities press for a similar development.
This however does not offer much hope to Ibrox, even in a Glasgow context it would seem to be behind similar developments at the SECC / QD2 site and Glasgow Harbour.
The SECC plans include a 12,000 seat indoor arena which GCC is pushing hard for and Glasgow Harbour is a much more upmarket development than anything that Ibrox could support. Consequently today is only the first step in a very long road for DM to generate a sizeable new income stream from the Ibrox estate. Long shot at best.
On another subject entirely, the re-appearance of "thePolarbear" on the site, please note the following-
From previous notes on the subject based on the poster's name and alleged diet it was established beyond reasonable doubt that the site had attracted a white supremacist Hun who lived in Edinburgh.
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no bread no cakes-
as RAB1888 said -
having planning permission and getting the licence are two very different things.
Last April,to get the new casino legislation pushed through in time,the government agreed to reduce the no. of super casinos planned from 8to1.
So if there is only going to be one super casino in the whole of Britain-
where would you put it ?
I think Glasgow city council have pre-empted any licence application
i.e. they are first to throw their hat into the ring looking for the status of SUPERCASINOGLASGOW !
noel.
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bibjoefaatherigsthatcanaffordtoliveinspain-
did you find your car ?
noel.
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Guys,
Referee's 'interpretation' of the Sproule incident on Sunday - from the Whistleblower website.
Referee Craig Thomson confirms why he cautioned three players in a 63rd minute flare-up during the Bank of Scotland SPL match between Hibernian and Celtic at Easter Road last weekend.
Thomson explains “ Ivan Sproule of Hibs reacted to a tackle and he then made a late challenge on Paul Telfer of Celtic. The latter reacted angrily to the challenge and both players became locked together with aggressive movements of the heads and arms towards each other. From my position my reaction was that their actions fell short of being violent and I cautioned both for unsporting behaviour. Sometimes there is a fine line between behaviour which is aggressive and that which is violent and I took the former one.”
He went on to comment on the involvement of the other players in the incident. “If players are trying to act as peacekeepers it is essential that they do not exacerbate the situation. Bobo Balde, was excessively aggressive and therefore he too was shown the yellow card.”
UEFA have, within the last few weeks, reminded participants in football that all people on the pitch have a responsibility to care for the image of the game. Referees have been instructed to take a lead in punishing offenders uniformly and highlighted confrontations such as this one should lead to at least a yellow card
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Lol…………….you got it in……..one…………………………..
Sproule………………………………..........
He has the look of a ……………………………….......
Hun………………………………...........................................
Nuffsad……………………………….....
Noel90.…………………………….........
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Just remembered its in the garage…………………
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Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhocantfindhiscar2day
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bibjoefaatherigsthatcanaffordtoliveinspain
andhaveacarthatyoucannyfindbecauseitsinthegarage-
If wee sproule looks evil
-what does that say for franny jeffers-did you see the photos of him from the porto game ?
-even makes stewart kennedy seem like a looker.....
sorry...took that one just a biiiiit too far there...
:>)
noel.
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ardmaca
No reply to your e-mails now theres a surprise.....
If possible try this..
Phone up the ticket office and explain what you want to do...
They will sell you two tickets together (if available) and you can pay for one and hand in your season book as payment for the other.
I have done it a few times so it can be done...(as there is no financial incentive for the PLC they don't openly advertise this)...
Good luck....
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.…………………………….....
Cant believe what the Daily Hun……………….
Is writing about N. Lennon………………..
It scares me that they use……………………
“WHY SFA HAVE TO THROW THE BOOK AT LENNON “
It goes on………………………………....
And on………………………………...............
And on………………………………..........
CANT WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS………………………
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhocantfindhiscar2day
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This casino caper, like all other things if there is to be a super dooper one it will be in Londinium. If there are to be regional casinos then if you were glasgow city council where would you want yours, in the city centre or across the river. Options steady flow of tourists, business people and the public. Or hordes of giro spending orcs every other weekend.
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Big Joe
The headline might read
"Why SFA have to throw the book at Lennon"
but it should read
"Why SFA have to throw the book at Lennon? Answer: because he plays for Celtic"
They could have saved themselves plenty of paper and print if they were just honest about how biased they are.
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bibjoefaathe etc. etc.
-p8ddy,s post yesterday tells oyu what you
can do.
Don,t buy the rag.
Tell your family not to buy the rag.
Ask your friends not to buy the rag.
If you see any Celtic fans in the street with a copy of the rag.
Ask them to bin it and not buy it again.
The same goes for the record,the star,news of the world,sunday mail.
these "papers" all have an anti Celtic agenda (or is it just me being paranoid?).
They have had an anti- Celtic agenda for a long,long time apart from the occasional"four page pullout on Seville and the Seville Roll Of Honour" and any other sweeties they deign to throw the way of the Celtic support when they become all too transparent.
noel.
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Henrik's sombrero, what worries me about this incident is that at the age of 34 you would have thought that Paul Telfer would have learned to go down like a bust coupon as soon as the opportunity presents itself. Does anyone have the phone number for the Peter Lovenkrands training establishment and we can get him booked in for a series of lessons? Apparently he's very good in these situations!
More seriously, however the referee chose to call the Telfer/Sproule incident, I don't for a minute accept that in the hurly burly that ensued he could have accurately identified that BB was being "overly aggressive" (Boruc probably was and he missed that). I think BB is the one who was most hard done by but is there any chance to have the card rescinded - no.
Also, in a spirit of fairness. We claim to be unfairly dealt with over decisions but imagine you were a Hibs supporter watching the penalty incident in the first half - damn good claim I thought and we would have been spitting blood if the situation had been reversed.
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Zbyszek, myself and some mates are travelling to Krakow, Poland in early January. Although you are from Warsaw could you recommened any pubs or places to visit in Krakow?
Cheers
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Noel
Add to that DO NOT log onto the daily record website. They recieve their advertising $$$ in relation to the amount of hits they get. Especially with the E-generation publications are selling less and less so this will become more important. So it is just as important to bhoycott their website as it is to do so to their paper
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Thanks to vclxi: 1.37pm and rumoid 2.32pm.
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Lahdies & Ghents,
New on here and well impressed with the standard of input.
Just like to add that I think it's a bit of summer swallow's with Big Artie but the signs ae encouraging.
Regarding Agathe, I've seen him twice in friendlies/reserve games these past few weeks (Arbroath & Montrose) and feel that he doesn't look fit, is overweight and isn't intrested.
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if we see him getting a few run outs with the big team towards the end of the year and then leaving in Jan.
...just my opinion based on a snapshot of what is rather than what was with Didier.
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Ardmaca
I assume from your blogname that you are from Co. Armagh. I would suggest that you contact Roy Ganley at the Lurgan Celtic Supporters Club and he should be well able to get you sorted
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.…………………………….....
Noel90.…………………………….............................
Thanks for in info on the red tops………………….
I actually don’t buy them………………………….
Just have a wee peek………………….
Online……………………………….
Its not that they are anti-Celtic…………………………..
Just 2 expensive………………………………....................
I am a true Scotsman………………………………........
Gripit………………………………..................
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhocantfindhiscar2day
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Lawlerm
Sure. Anything you want.Tell me how long you will stay there? Do you want to see interesting places?Do you have a hotel room?
But I think we can't talk about it here.Give your e-mail address or I can give you mine.I can advise you now or we can postpone it until you know more details.I'm sure you want to buy souvenirs from Poland,for example Wisla and Legia shirts. Take two bags with you to put them in a different places.
Zbyszek Legia fan
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.…………………………….....
Michael__67 ………………………………..................
Even if I log on quick…………………………….
2 the dailyrecord………………………………...........
Read a wee bit……………………………
Then log off real quick…………………………….
Will they still get add…………………………
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Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhocantfindhiscar2day
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Rioskorrie…………….3.15
You cant have read my blogs………………….
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Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhocantfindhiscar2day
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Any news on Lennon???????????????????????
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhocantfindhiscar2day
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Hi Big_Joe
Websites who receive cash advertising other than the click through banners are usually paid according to the exposure the advertisers adverts get. So if your website has 10,000 visitors per day then you would get £x per month but if you attract 100,000 visitors per day then you will get £xx per month - more cash.
I think the rag we all avoid gets paid both for banner clicks and for adverising exposure based on monthly page views (i.e the number of pages viewed per month) Soooooo, thanks to Paul and CQN , I no longer contribute to their online stats as I have no need to visit their site, theres much better stuff going on here !
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Big Joe
As no bread no cakes said regarding advertising. And as for Lenny, the hearing was at 15.30 so he should be going in just now. Goodluck neil...
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Hi Paul67 & every 1.…………………………….....
No Bread No Cakes…………………………….
Thanks for the info……………………………….............
The stuff on hear is good………………………………
Until I spoil it………………………………........
Bibjoefaatherigsbutlivesinspainwhowontbeonlineforamonthashehas2gobacktowork.
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Is anyone going to the Celtic Trust AGM this Saturday?
If so it would be good if you'd post your comments next week to help us all form a better opinion of them.
Their website says 10am but you have to contact the administrator for the location. I can't make it along but would be interested to hear what is said.
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I shouldn't think it'll will be too long b4 we can bhoycott that 'Airdrie' supporting Mr T on Your Call.
Where are the CQN reading techie whizzkids up to speed with podcasts and VoIP ??
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Big Joe-
Neil lennon was due in at 3.30pm b.s.t.
They expect it to take a couple of hours just so they can get him measured up for one of the suits with the arrows on it.
oh-and a ball and chain-just to slow him down-as if he needs one.
:>)
noel.
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Aware of All/No Bread No Cakes, the ‘Rangers casino’ story is not approval for the project. There will only be 1 regional casino in the UK and Glasgow is unlikely to get it. Even then, the City Council have already approved another ‘super-casino’ project to the same level.
My official prediction; ‘No chance’.
Sorry Noel, been busy today.
Welcome Rioskorrie.
Bog Joe, been in meetings all day, no news – was looking for one of you guys to keep me updated.
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Bibjoefaatherigs......
Did you know you had become Bib Joe & not Big Joe? Is there Rioja involved? Ithinkweshouldbetoldifyouarelookingforyourcarundertheinfluence.
SB
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Just drove past Hampden. Lots of guys with white cloakes on with a big rope over a tree.
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Maybe we should take the fight to Traynor on his phone in. If a lot of Celts phoned in under the guise of any subject and then when he went to talk to you and got the response your a waste of space, whilst hanging up the phone, he might after several weeks get the message, which is he s a waste of space.
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Al
Although it would be very amusing. Its exactlty the type of thing he is looking for. He winds us up to get a reaction. What about phoning up in the guise of any subject and when it comes on air, say nothing. If thousands of Celtic fans phoned up surely at least 80% of the calls would be us, and although they would cut the silent calls after couple of seconds. If it happened again and again I reckon that would get to him more than abuse...
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Hi everyone, not posted for a few days.............then i lift up the rag in the shop........back page Revs Revolt............2 page spread inside ..........Why The Sfa Have To Throw The Book At NL...........well the paper went right over the shop.......yes, i had to pay for it...........told the shopkeeper there's the 35p fling that rag in the bin for me............should lean not to look at it in the shop.
Oh aye, Rangers get the BIG OK for Las Govan, my @rse.....is this where Fargo has gone???
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The Bears casino????
It will be a goer. Especially if Lord Haw-Haw makes a promise to the backers along the lines of "For every fiver a punter spends we will put down a tenner."
Any last requests Neil Lennon?
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Radio phone ins usually have a delay period where they are able to sus out the 'hostile' callers(in this case it would be celts). This allows them to concentrate on their 'friendly' callers (huns).
Just as the red tops are a waste of money Traynor is a waste of a phone call AND time.
