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Paul - Sorry I posted this at the bottom of the last thread. Thought people might be interested in Hugh Keevins providing conclusive proof that he's an eejit.
Anyone ever wondered what happened to Stefan Klos? Looks like he ended up at Malaga if this report from the Barcelona website on last night's game is anything to go by:
Malaga tried to open their lines now and Ronaldinho exploited the space on 87 minutes, putting through Larsson, who'd come on for Eto'o on 70 minutes, and the Swedish striker looked up and chipped the keeper to round off a well deserved, if ultimately hard fought for win.
Also if you want a laugh how about this that I got in an e-mail this morning? Hugh Keevins' ratings on last night's game:
CELTIC - Boruc 6, Telfer 6, Camara 6, Balde 6, McManus 6, Petrov 7, Lennon 6, Sutton 6 (McGeady 82, 4), Nakamura 8, Maloney 6, Beattie 6.
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What are you hearing about the size of the debacle at MIH? Three of his subsidiaries have reported disappointing results in recent weeks, with two turning in losses and the other reporting much-reduced profits.
The shifting of the 50million pound Rangers debt to further inside the corporate structure fooled no one.
Do you reckon the Halifax Bank of Scotland are getting nervous?
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is there a prize for getting in the first five 3 topics running?
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MadMurph and Big Joe,
Have you a point, caller? Then get off the line.
(copyright: The late, great Jimmy Sanderson)
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Completely off subject so sorry in advance, but has anyone else recieved a copy of the new club catalogue?
And if so has anyone notice how much better it is compared to previous ones?
Loads of Nike stuff and so professional looking.
Also on a similar vein has anyone noticed the changes to the OWS in the past week?
Also looking much slicker (wouldn't be hard I know!).
Would make you think that someone is finally pulling this side of the business together and hopefully to the benifit to the WGS and the team.
/Bishop B
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Did not get a chance to post after the game last night. What a difference a few days make. We were fantastic, Stan played as we all know he can and was the complete box to box midfielder. Nakamura was magnificent his range of passing and his desire was what we payed for.
I thought McManus was solid last night and I also thought he stood out at Rugby Park.
I am glad GS is getting time to complete his task and I cannot wait to see the finished article if this is the early stages.
I will be interested to see how the media react to the draw at Almondvale which was a disaster compared to the Fir Park 4-4 at the start of the season for us.
Paul67 I hope you are correct in what you say. I think HBOS may well be getting twitchy or to be specific the Halifax side of that business.
Its a good day
Hail hail
Stephen with a "ph"
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Paul67,
it will be interesting to see MIH results. Surely in a world where natural resources are being consumed at an alarming rate, and are at a premium, MIM must be able to make record profits. NO? oh must be bad management then!!!
On the domestic dominance, I do hope you are right. As a guy who only really started going to the games on a regular basis from about 84/85 on, I used to wonder if I would ever see Celtic winning the league again during their NIAR. I suffered so much abuse. Also, since we have the statistics to say that we have not dominated Scottish football in the last 5 years (Eck is equal to MON), I really do want a period on undoubted, unquestionable domestic dominance.
Mind you, I don't want to be accused of being short sighted. A couple of Euro finals would be nice too.
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Paul, I sincerely hope that your sources are as reliable as usual. Massive MIH debt and a fourth placed finish from our dignified friends from Govan would be quite entertaining.
As for Keevins, I removed my last post because I had thought that the ratings must have been a wind-up. But, after steeling myself and checking the DR website I find that that martinobhoy is not at it. The surprising thing is that it is surprising. Has anyone ever seen 7 being awarded in any ratings for the scorer of a hat-trick?
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Good article Paul……………………….
But I wouldn’t be 2 confident…….
2 right off, TFOD…………………
Just that quick………..ly
Thinking back to the final few weeks of last season.
On this site……………….
WE
Were all righting them off…………
And we all know what happened then………
But all that apart, they have won 2 much
At our expense……………………..
Lets hope they slip further………………..
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Great performance last night and all that without any full backs or strikers!
Nakamura's contribution is often overlooked but because of his one touch play, Celtic moved from one end of the field to the other with incredible speed.
Wallace and McGeady looked good when they came on, Wallace being the more composed.He provided Hartson with a number of crosses but unfortunately the big man failed to capatalise.
It will be very exciting when Zurawski returns as he appears to be on the same wave length as the midfield.(even Lennon is adapting his game for the new regime)
If anybody care to remember the first few minutes of the game...the silence of the crowd, the disjointed nature of the play(4 throw in's and 2 free kicks inside the first 60 seconds)
What a difference a goal makes!
Petrov was absolutely inspirational, a definite leader on the pitch as you can see when he go's bananas at Balde for going walka bouts.
Balde got him back though, with that point blank header right in the nuts!
Kojo although I disagree with you regarding Petrov, well done for sticking to your guns despite all the jibes.
Good to hear ''1 Paul Lambert'' and liked ''So Japan-easy!''
And all this with Rangers in financial turmoil, ah don't you just love it?
ps.Hope that George Best pulls through.
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Paul
Rangers will play in our shadow for a generation.
Even with my limited edukashun, I know that a generation is a lot more than 9! Roll on!!
Will not be able to see the game until the highlights tonight on Grampian, but I know from the honest comments on here that we were superb. So what is Puke Heevin doing with the 6's. Maybe he used a dice?
Hail! Hail!
Curly
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too many TLA's
what/who is OWS
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malone19
I had logged off last night when you posted on the previos thread, did not notice BBJ trying to get the ball from Naka,I sit in Section112 of the Lions this may be a very potent weapon that can be regularly relied on to produce goals, the strike looked undefendable.
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Great article Paul.
Really hits the spot whilst we are all on a high from last night. I concur with another contributer however, I'd give my eye teeth to see the size of the abyss that MIH are staring into.
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JohnBhoy,
don't be bitter coming third is no disgrace!!
Like the Murphy's, I'm not bitter. How could I be?
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Paul I think our current position is reflected in the old saying "you dont know what you had till you lost it"... this for me can be explained by there being two generations of supporters being in the "you only sing when you're losing" section why because we didnt have a choice... perhaps thats really when the political as opposed to football songs crept in, with their sensesless defiance and up you*s to the system. I remember my first few games in the early to mid nineties going over on the school bus... and assortment of caretakers, PR RE Politics and religion teachers and 3rd-7th years (god those hard cuts :o) )... initially to the old hampden and then to the temp stand... the scene of one of my fondest early memories where poalo scored a late penalty to make it 2-2 in front of the temp stand and about 3 seconds into the celecrations i remember thinkin "is this stand up to this???? ... anyway I disgress that was in the old TB days.... then clame the turmoil of the DR JO and Wim days .... then came the MON era... I remember lookin round me about 25 mins into the 6-2 game and we didnt know what to do with ourselves it'd been a while since we were in this position.... MON realised that tryin to out SILK temas who could spend ten+ times what you could on silky players wouldnt work... time for the old fashioned way..... and for a while no-one noticed that it was a blitzkrieg as opposed to the celtic way... why cause they were winning ...then it became too predictable 4-0, 5-0 and 6-0 against clubs who could barely get 5-8 thou at home and a few hundred away... but then it happened lubo left, henke left and the team cause that wa what it was..not a squad a team ..had gotten celtic as far as they could and furhter than they should... people realised that when teams had ten players in their third size and graft got u so far but then u needed a touch of class.. so people started asking had it been the mon or henke era... the new supporters had to deal with going from destroying crap spl temas and bullying and blitzing european teams to leaking goals losing leads and getting beaten by at best average euro teams who simply passed around the juggernauts.... now we are here...but where exactly is here... we will know a lot better at the end of next month.. then again in jan when we see what happens in the market... my only concern is that we have went from a 6ft 15 stone one trick ugly pony to a 5'6" 10 stone one trick pretty pony.. i.e. do we have a plan B
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Does anyone have a website I can see the match highlights on? I am burstin at the seams to see the goals!
Please please please
BhoyLondon
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Everything'sGoneGreen
It was my brother who sent me Hugh's rankings and like you I thought he was at it so I had to check the website. It will come as no surprise that Bazza also got a 7 for his performance at Almondvale last night.
As I said conclusive proof that Keevins is an eejit.
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Sean,
Nakamura's contribution is often overlooked but because of his one touch play, Celtic moved from one end of the field to the other with incredible speed.
I don't think Naka's influence is being overlooked, I think he is key to the way we are going. He does need movement around him and I'm so glad WGS stuck with the same team who did not perform as well as I thought they might at Rugby park!
I think the reason he is not getting the fulsome praise he deserves is that it would be a breach of Stan's human rights not to get MOTM after scoring a hat-trick. How many times did the KOK get MOTM because he scored? He must have a cellar full of champagne!!
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Johnbhoy
Have you a point, caller? Then get off the line.
(copyright: The late, great Jimmy Sanderson)
Practice what you preach
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Keevins-how can we forget on the first day of the season after the 4-4 draw he stated Rangers would win the league by 20 points!!!
Keevins-payback time!!!
ps another game when Sutton looked so disinterested except for last 15 mins. What are the odds of Sutton, Thompson and Hartson going in January to make way for the new intake??
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BhoyLondon - a cut and paste from a link posted on the previous blog by roncelt.
http://www.zippyvideos.com/7832141141934746/the_hoops_0002/*benie
Enjoy
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Oh and what a result for Rangers last night.
Battling away for a hard earned point, topped with Kilmarnock's defeat.
They really are pulling away and making that 4th spot their very own.
Long may it continue!
Sean
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Some of the football this season has been an absolute joy & the manager has been brave enough to make big decisions. Hopefully this continues but it's obvious to see that the likes of Sutton, Hartson, Thompson, Pearson, Agathe etc don't fit into WGS long term vision of quick high tempo football. We all know the weak areas of the team that need improved & L'il Admiral is wise enough to bring in the right players.
Paul - do you think there is a major financial crash on the cards for Murray & The Dreamers or is it just a case of limited funds available for the Evil Empire?
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Mad Murph Don't get me wrong I know how valueable Nakamura is to us.I was alluding more to the media's perception of him.ie build up the hype after his first game, only to knock him down.
Sean
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Sean,
Point taken mate. I don't think our media would do such a thing ;-o
In the coming weeks, if our midfield continue as they are, the stories will abound linking Stan Lenny and anyone esle with less than 2 years on their contract with a move. Also the old "unable to settle" stories being wheeled out for Naka and Scooby!!
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Londonbhoy, here you go...
http://www.zippyvideos.com/7832141141934746/the_hoops_0002/*benie
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Domination requires football talent, coaching and playing and without the guidance from a top drawer manager over the period the finances are irrelevant. How many of you think the score would have been much closer had for example Martin O'Neill been in charge of Motherwell last night?
Financial performance and football performance are utterly dependant on one another, it's symbiotic and any factors that we are in control of must have complete attention to detail and utmost care shown, and always monitored, through rough and smooth.
Work-in-progress is still the watchword. Nothing has been achieved as a result of last night in the same way as nothing was lost after drawing to Hearts. The jury is still out, but its enjoying its stay in a nice hotel. The foreman is getting a massage as I speak.
Nevertheless I enjoyed last night immensely and look forward to every match these days. If I'm still saying that at Christmas, or even on 20th November then I'll be dropping 'domination' into many a conversation.
Articles like this just add to my enjoyment of all things Celtic as we the Celtic fans take control of our own agenda rather than being subject to the destruction and sabbotage of others'.
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TheMadMurph earlier alluded to Big Fecks record being the equal of MON. That is fair enough, but I would be interested to see the amount of league games played and points accumulated over their respective tenures. It will probably shock you just who far ahead of them we should have been. We should be sitting just now thinkin about 10 IAR.
I'm sure there are some book worms out there who would happily dig up this info??
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OWS - Official Website (I guess)
What a beautiful day
The teddy bears at work are strangely quiet
Hail Hail
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Just on "Mad" Hughs player ratings, I don't buy his paper but as I understand it the reporter at the game emails in the match report and it's usually someone at the sports desk that does the ratings. In this case it seems to have been done by a rabid lunatic (probably James Traynor).
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daveortim 1:04 PM,
Sorry mate.
For OWS read Official Web-site.
/Bishop B
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Scotcelt56 and Roncelt:
Thanks for the link but am I the only one that cannot seem to get it to work? It just sits with a black screen and does nothing. Even if I press play nothing happens?
Probably doing something really stupid!
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And they played football the Gordon Strachan way?
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To all those asking yesterday.
The complete fixture list on the (newly redesigned) official web site can still be found by going into the "tickets" section - about half way down there's a link to the appropriate page.
I have reported to the web site development team that there is no access to the full list from the "match" page.
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thepolarbear - whilst we are waiting on the exact figures didn't we win the league by 22 and then 15 points in MON's first two seasons then lost it (we won on the head to head) by a goal then won it by 20 (ish) points then lost it by 2.
So that makes it upwards of 50 points, probably nearer 60
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Bhoylondon, someone on the previous page had the same problem but it started working after a while. He guessed that it might be volume related with too many people trying to download through a pipe that isn't big enough.
Persevere.
Unless, of course, you are at work and your office firewall is blocking access - that's possible.
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BhoyLondon,
If your on a LAN or broadband you should be okay eventually so keep persevering.
However if your on a dial-up you'll struggle to get the streaming or even a connection.
/Bishop B
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thismancraig - I concur! We slipped up badly during those 2 seasons of shame!!
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PolarBear,
I remember reading on here, I think it was BryceCurdy, describing MON as perhaps the unluckiest manager. In that, when he won the league it was by a country mile but when he lost it was by the narrowest of margins.
You and I know we have dominated the scottish game for the last 5 years, that is why the stats which show them in the best light possible are the ones banded about. Lies, dam lies and statistics.
That is why I want a period where, no matter how you look at it, we have utterly dominated. I have been watching the hoops long enough to remember not quailifying for Europe. Some of that for our friends across the city would be nice.
Did I say I wasn't bitter!!!! I need to re-asses my character...
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Scotcelt56 and Len Brennan
Thanks guys - will keep persevering! I'm about to burst if I don't see these but I will have patience!
Cheers guys!
Hail Hail
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BhoyLondon,
try this, you can download it
http://216.86.150.60/videos/0/193474_5f8a5.wmv
posted on the previous article by mkBhoy
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Bhoylondon, if you go back to the previous blog then there was another link nearer the bottom of the postings.
I didn't try it myself as the other one worked OK. May be worth going back and try to find it - I would start at the bottom of the postings and work north!
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Bhoy London
I had troubles earlier but just kept hitting the play button and it came through after a while.
It is a volume issue...when it eventually say buffering, it will play!
Good Luck well worth it!
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Belfast Bhoy do you know any bars that get any Celtic games on any of the foreign satellite channels?
Their was a few that could get them a few years back and used to advertise in the Andytown News, but then it all stopped.
Then someone i know in the Hatfield told me that a guy who slept in and missed his boat over to Hearts game still got to see it on the TV, somewhere in the West, but he wasnt sure where.
I was at the game and knew it wasnt on any of the terrestrial channels, so dont know where or how he got to see it still.
Me and a friend phoned round the houses yesterday to see if we could find anywhere that could get it, but no joy and what a pitty because we still owe Motherwell a couple more hammerings at the very least!
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Like other posters I noted the points awarded to Celtic players following the demolition of Motherwell last night--total 69 .Out of curiosity I added up the total for Rangers following the atrocious result at Almondvale ( a disaster largely due to to self inflicted errors) --total 65 points.It would seem in the Record's view that Celtic approaching their best are marginally better than Rangers nearing their worst.
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Does anyone actually care what the daily record think.....does anyone think the daily record thinks. Why are we giving the daily record airtime.
Never forget bhoys...."thugs n Thieves" I for one can't wait for the reconstruction of events in Newcastle for Shearers testi"moan"ial.
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Paul i dont think you can say that McLeish has lost the dressing room, we have no access to players opinions on McLeish as to has he lost the respect of the players.
I mean what more do they want, this guy is working with hardly any money and he stole two league titles from under or noses. So he must me a brave good manager to do that.
This will be the first and last time i will give McLeish credit.
Oh yeah and sign Petrov now Celtic no excuses now.
And its great to see sutton up front were he belongs.
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At the game last night and was shocked at the standing ovation for MO SORRY the non standing ovation .I thought the guy put in a good shift and made some telling passes and tackles. I sit in the lions stand lower and i counted half a dozen including myself who stood but beatie got the whole house standing which i thought didnt put in as good a shift but still deserved a standing ovation as MO should have. Best football at Celtic Park for a long while
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to the Polarbear without being sounding condescending or patronising I salute you for your dignity....
To the blog as a whole i think it is a reflection of our priorities that our footballing dreams and passions can be articulated and lived as a passion without the odious stench of sectarianism and the likes...
lets keep it up ... i havent been around for a while but i can tell you its great to be back and to be able to enjoy the heart of our club celtica amongst friends and genuine adversaries.
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Paul, I really hope what you're saying is true, but I can't help think that with our own financial problems, how can we all of a sudden gain a decade of dominance because Rangers are going to have to tighten the purse strings as well? The other part of the equation is Hearts. Exactly how much Romanov is willing to put into Hearts is yet to be seen, but if they keep strengthening and get a decent manager in, they won't be easy to overcome either.
With all the chat about Lennoxtown, the need to improve the immediate environment outside the stadium, the need to provide Stan P with a contract that will keep him at Celtic Park etc, alongside the need to overcome £19m of debts, I can't see how we're going to be in too strong a position in coming years either. Is at all down to the dreaded amortisation again?
I'm not being negative here. I hope the talent we have coming through the youth system, coupled with clever signings of players such as Magic, Boruc, Zurawski and Du Wei, who are on less money and will hopefully earn us money commercially, will take us to the next level. I just have doubts about the idea of sustained dominance.
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can anyone suggest a pub to watch the dundee utd game in on sunday - in glasgows west end??
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I normally go to Hubbards on Gt Western Road (underneath the infamous Clatty Pat's). It's not a Celtic pub as such, but the vast majority in it will be supporting the tic.
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I watched the Ajax, Celtic champion's league qualifier recently and Sutton was immense!
This was one of his best games in a Celtic shirt as he was so strong, provided great link up play, fair shair of defending as well and of course a magnifecent header.
But now he seems to just have lost a bit of it. Of course he's a few years older now but last night a large majority of good moves broke down because of him.
Mainly because of little flicks that he tries to pull off far too much for my liking.I think it worked once and resulted in Petrov completing his hat-trick.
Maybe this could be his last season with us but hopefully we can say ''thanks very much'' and bring in some money in.
On the subject of Petrov and in particular his contract extension he is quoted as saying ''I always want to play for Celtic if they want me.''
He does have 18 months left on his current deal so huury.
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Been busy the last 24 hours, apologies for not replying to direct questions (over 430 comments since I have had a chance to read properly).
Welcome to the new posters, Peter and any others I have missed.
Martybhoy, I completely echo what you say. Forget how the media rate Celtic; they only do it to sell advertising. In fact why is anyone still reading this stuff?
What do you expect from them, dull predictability? They are there to whip up some “C”.
And just before you hang them for this offence:
There is no harm in this particular act. If underrating a Celtic player makes you consider his performance and disagree, a journalist would say he has done his job.
Every now and then I say something a wee bit out there myself. If by stimulating debate a consensus is reached, the media has done its job.
Remember that article discussed here from The Guardian, ‘football fans are stupid’? It was the best article I have read all year, because it made me examine why I spend so much time and money on Celtic.
Look at the debate our good friend Kojo started over Stan Petrov. It clearly established the value of Petrov to the support.
Rossio, there is a degree of separation between Celtic and Rangers football budget today – which explains the difference in results on the park, and that difference will remain.
Hearts have been a surprise package as far as I am concerned. Remember, they are operating with a smaller budget again than Rangers.
I can tell you with complete authority that Celtic are planning to completely renovate the area outside the stadium. They have been busy for two years now buying up the land surrounding the ground – and are still doing so.
Once they have control of the land you will not see the stadium for shrubbery.
Back to work now.
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Stephenwithaph 12.53
Absolutely agree regards McManus at Rugby Park. Thought it was his best Celtic shift by far. MOTM for me.
His Confidence is there to see now and he's playing right through the ball (as every good snooker player should). If he keeps that up we are gonna have to find a new position for Du Wei!
TB
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good afternoon citibhoy - please elaborate on why I may find your words condescending or partonising?
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I honestly believe there is still loads of room for improvement on last nights performance.
It was absolutely brilliant, total football, but as was pointed out. Without our strikers being on form we managed to score 5!! No mean feat!
If Magic returns to the in the form he left we will be in for a treat.
Citibhoy I gather from your post you beieve Polarbear to be a bear in the other sense of the word? He's a tim!
Rossio Magic, Boruc and Zurawski? two magics?
TBE.
The Day Strachan arrived at Celti Park
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many thanks TBE.
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polarbear maybe just a bad choice of nickname on your part but I always get the impression people on here think your a charlatan.
TBE.
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TBE - I know..... I'm begining to wonder myself! I almost didnt wash this morning (tongue in cheek to any of the easily offended and PC brigade). Good luck on your own blossoming blog!!!
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PS - Its not a nickname - I am a polarbear!!
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Does anyone think that Rangers will sell Stefan Klos in January?
It's alot of money to pay for a 2nd choice goalkeeper and his contract is up on the same day as Petrov. Wattereus is up in June.
For what it's worth, I'm astonished that Klos isn't in the team yet.
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Anybody hear the RR phone in last night?
They had (ex?)BBC reporter Charlie Mann on because he is also the spokesman(propaganda machine?) for Vlad 'the Impaler 'Romanov.
One call in particular was a pure gem to say the least.
Michael fom Livingston's opening statement'' you're no even a puppet, you're a muppet! ''
He was spot on with the trouble of the counts intentions with Hearts and the poor ethics involved in booting out George Burley.
One to keep an eye on, especially if you want a nice flat in the Gorgie area....
KOJO Almost thought your prediction of 14 nil was going to come true!
sevilleorthebill? great name and wasn't Bobby Petta just fantastic?!
Sean
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thismancraig
I would not be at all surprised if Klos is re-instated as 1st choice keeper after last nights result, by all accounts Wattereus was at fault for the first goal.
The problem was that Wattereus hadn't done a lot wrong to warrant being dropped so I think Klos will be back in.
Personally I hope he doesn't, look at the difference bringing in a better keeper had on us.(not that DM was bad but AB is better)
TBE.
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Paul,
Oh, happy day. Just made a whole lot better by your article. I do so hope you're right about Rangers' financial position. Utter ruin would suit me perfectly but mere domination for a generation will do for now. Thank God for Mr Murray.
All this and Celtic playing the Celtic way. Joy unconfound. Long may it continue. Thanks Mr Strachan. Here's hoping I'm still feeling as good at the end of November! If I am, dreams of European finals will be looming large.
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TBE, McLeish has said he won't be
dropped as it is was first mistake.
I just can't understand it!
On a seperate note, with the blue sky today, last night's goings on and Paul's era defining...''Rangers will play in our shadow for a generation.''...it really is a dear green place.
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I loved last night's game and despite winning 5-0 I think that there could have been even more to cheer. Not that I'm complaining, I'd happily settle for this week in week out!!
We stroked the ball about in our own half loads, kept possession and switched play from wing to wing to stretch Motherwell. I loved watching this but we didn't penetrate as much as we could have done.
Also, our strikers weren't as productive as I'd have wished for. Sutton was a bit static and Beattie seemed to develop a habit of running in front of his defender when we had the ball in our defence, making him easy to mark. If we're playing it up to Sutton for a flick on then Beattie would be better being on the defender's blind side.
All small matters as we won 5-0 and Rangers dropped yet more points.
I agree with a few of the comments earlier, I can't remember much that Camara done wrong and he got a very warm reception when he was taken off from the crowd. Strangely EKBHOY68 (3:10 PM) said the opposite and I was sitting near him!
The entire back 5 looked assured - no obvious mistakes that I can remember but no major tests. Wallace really wasn't tested defensively but looked great going forward - a real threat and some great crosses.
If our youngsters continue to get chances in the team then it looks to be a very promising future. Players like Beattie, Maloney, Wallace, McManus, McGeady and Kennedy could be very important players for us.
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Paul67,
Yippee Kayo Kaya!
Paul, babe, thanks for the Sign Post.
You , Johnbhoy, Sean, Liam,Canajun Bhoy, Her Lladyship, and probably quite a few other members of the Silent Majority(?), are all ssoooooooooooooooooooooo familiar, with the Big"C"
However............(Sorry,folks..but I gotta be Me! I gotta be Me!).
Many of the other Contributers to The Celtica Harbor.....do not understand the way I work......
And especially the Newbies.......
I even went out of my way to mention.......... THAT I WAS An EXPONENT and also A PROPONENT... of the Big "C".
Without the injection of a Contrary Opinion.......wether it is RIGHT or Wrong, is Essential to the VIABILITY of this or any other FORUM!!
"Gosh I did not Know that,Ollie!"
"But I Soitenly Do, Stanley!"
Why do you think the Good Lord made the Devil?"
MMMMMMMMMMMM?
God is... and always will be a GOD of Chaos!
Yep, the Big Bhoy in the Sky Knows a thing or Two.
Turmoil creates Sustainability!
Thank God for Hurricanes!
Whoa! there, mate.......... getting into Deep Water.....Better Back off!
To explain my position on the Great Petrov CONTROVERSY, once more.
If Petrov accepts Celtic's Terms...... He STAYS!
If Petrov refused Celtic's Terms....... He Walks!
If I was in charge of the Negos....... I would make sure that he Walked......Because as I have said...Petrov Represents Cash on the HOOF!....Much needed......
Could represent the Import of 3 or 4 New Faces.........
But,Fortunately(?) for a lot of folks........I am NOT IN CHARGE...
So I say to my Critics.......
RELAX GUYS.... KOJO is NOT IN CHARGE!...........
And a Deep Collective, PHEW! gushed throughout the LAND OF CELTICA!
By the way Guys......
Celtic were Magnifico .........Petrov was Stupendous...... Naka was the
MAINSPRING of the CELTIC TIME-PIECE!
Celtic Ticked When Naka.....TRICKED!
Celtic are the Champions!
Kojo.
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Good Grief!
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Paul,
Apologies but it was me that started the Hugh Keevin's ranking thread.
As I said I received it in an e-mail and it made me laugh so I thought on this great day to be a Celtic supporter it might raise even more smiles amongst the CQN Faithful.
My intention was also to back up your opinion that these guys and their opinions should be ignored as they are worthless.
Again apologies if this isn't how it read. I'll be careful what I post in future.
Still smiling nearly 20 hours after the final whistle! :o)
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Could someone please post another address for the goals because the 2 we have on the blog are closed now.
cheers.
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Kojo
The hurricanes you talk of have just cost me my annual bonus and increased my hours.....I'm not feeling the love.
BUT CELTIC MAKE ME FORGET ABOUT ALL THAT.....some great footy played...
Pure Margarine (I'm on a diet you see)
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Guys
Last night - great stuff but we all seem to be on the Celtic rollercoaster.
On Sunday night and Monday there was hot debate and some wailing and gnashing of teeth with regards the performance at Killie
What a difference 48 hours can make with sweet football and an even sweeter scoreline - a just reward for excellent play.
I certainly know that I like this kind of feeling and positive thread more than the ones from earlier this week even if they were incredibly interesting
Lets hope the Bhoys give us many more of these
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Just thinking about last night...we need some new songs!
''there's only one Stan Petrov/Nakamura/Neil Lennon/Artur Boruc/John Hartson...etc etc.
Where's all the creative minds here?
There's a challenge for you.
Sean
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http://www.zippyvideos.com/7832141141934746/the_hoops_0002/*benie
Last nights goals', for those of you lik eme who missed the game.
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Thismancraig 3.44 I share your view that rangers will flog Klos in Jan.In fact I have held this view from soon after Wattereus signed and prooved such a adequate replacement for Klos.Since nobody on cqn is among the 469232 unenlightened souls who read the record I will expain how I arrived at this view. Shortly before Klos was injured the Record carried a number of increasingly strenuous denials that he was to leave Rangers.I believed his denials and concluded that the club were preparing the supporters for the sale of a hugely popular player (and one of the few sellable assets).I was completely convinced when Klos was injured the club imme
diately shipped in Watterous as thoug he was waiting in the wings I suppose that Advocaat probably advised Rangers of his reliability. As for reading the Record I make no apology for that. I read papers as diverse as The Jerusalem Post to the Clare Champion without nesessarily agreeing with them or feeling that my immortal soul is in danger.I do believe that Klos will be back from next week and if the rumour on the Rangers site of a more than usual Dutch /German dislike between the two is true it will be interesting to see how Watterous reacts
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My dear friend MartyBhoy,
A man of your obvious intelligence and savoir faire, is in no need of this piece of advice........
However........(?)
You will find that the Hurricane Damage is one of the finest means of Work and Economic Creation...
Give it a few months..... and I am sure your Company will be delighted by the the Aftermath.
Yes, my friend "Out of the Strong Came Forth Sweetness"
Buttah! It is,Chile.......Purreeeee Buttah!
War is the Instigator of Modernity!
Big "C" ....Anyone?
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Druiddude - I have noticed how the media have glossed over Klos not playing for the reserves at all because he gets more out of training with Billy Thompson.
I'd like to see how a similar situation would be treated on our side
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unfortunately missed last night's extravaganza as little subterranean was under the weather.
...Kojo et al, I recommend the humblest of pie with puree buttah sauce...easier to swallow than yer many hats...but fair play for sticking to yer opinion in the greater scheme of all things celtica...
...I think that the best chance we have to qualify for next year's champions league riches is with our most sellable asset in place - at the hub of the team...remove Stan then a fine work in progress could take longer...or even fall apart...does not seem a business risk worth taking.
...someone once said football is a funny old game - business - maybe even entertainment
...lets keep and nurture our star entertainers and watch the greatest show on earth.
Chris
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Just watched the clip of the goals from last nights match... fantastic! It's also a bit of a laugh because John Cole is suffering from the worst case of commentators curse I've ever seen. "Celtic unable to find any flow in their game"... while Celtic go up the park string about 15 passes together then Petrov scores. The with Nakas freekick "I think it's too far out". I wish he would doubt us more often!
Apparently James McPake missed a sitter against Rangers in the last minute last night... He'll be gutted but I told his girlfriend to tell him to get his act together anyway! Imagine if Livi had beaten Rankers?!? Stuff dreams are made of.
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Kojo,
I am certain they will too....I'm just peeved in the short term!
Hopefully next years bonus will be double or treble....if you get my drift!
Martybhoy
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Martinobhoy, thanks for that info. I did not have a chance to read the earlier comments or would have noticed the context.
Kojo, our man Petrov got good constructive criticism this week, got to wonder if it helped any…
Thismancraig, druiddude, I agree, dropping Klos to move him towards the door is the only logical explanation. It also makes excellent sense for Rangers. Watterous is a good keeper, though not in Klos class. Klos is on top wages and will generate badle needed funds.
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last nights game is showing now on Celtic TV. Get this - the commentary duo for Setanta is Joke Brown and Tosh McKinley. Have Setanta finally bowed to pressure from us at last and realised that the stutttering buffoon Hately is no better qualified to be a co commentator than he is to be a fashion icon. or was he scared to be seen at Celtic Park? i think we should be told!
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If anyone's having trouble with the existing links to the goals then right click on the link below and choose "Save target as" - the video clip has been zipped to make sure you can download rather than stream it.
Anyway, all the goals are over here. No not there. Here. HERE!! ME ME ME ME ME. Choose me Nigel.
Sorry, I dunno what came over me there...
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In response to BigBren and his query regarding Sutton BBJ and Thommo possibly going in January. Well one of the aforementioned's son is telling his pals at school that he is going to live in Italy next summer.
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Paul67 - I never thought I'd see myself saying this .......... but I'm with Kojo on Petrov. I must be back on the Stella!
There's been many suggestions from contributors that Stan is world class, best midfielder in SPL, UK, blah, blah........
No chance! He had a great game. He does that ...... sometimes ....... but not enough to be even considered world class.
He's on a cusp at the moment - sell him if he gets greedy.
That is all!
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Paul67....just had an email telling me that Murray International Holdings Limited are due by 30
November. (this may be the last day he has to submit them)
On the subject of Stan........Kojo...is right, if he doesn't take up a new contract then sell him, we should be doing this with ever player who's contract is coming to it's last year, first team players throught to the young bhoys..
Some game last night, roll on Sunday.
ps, has anyone heard about W Haughey selling his shares or buying more in us??
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Gerry, your info is correct, the 30th Nov is the deadline; let’s see what happens next week.
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I'm watching the match on Celtic TV - brilliant! Probaly watch it again later. One wee irritation - every commentator refers to 'Bow-rooch' as I did initially but I saw Artur in a press conference last week where someone asked him and got the clear message it's 'Baw-roots'. Ar-toor Baw-roots. We all ought to get it right. Also, it os apparently 'Shoonsky Nakamura'. What's the correct pronunciation for Majiec? Can we ask the commentators to get it right?
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Gerry , Kojo... youre on far stronger stuff than Stella.
Petrov is the one genuine world class player we've got. It's the mediocre performers round him that dont allow him to shine more often.
Paul. Hope you are right here with the "generation" of upperhand but we aint won nothing yet. TB in 90's allowed some terrific football to be 2nd most of the time if not all.
I do agree that next month will be the one which shapes our future. I do hope we are going to peak over the next couple of months and raise the perfomance levels to run away with this years honours.
The style which WGS has brought is begining to show but let's be in no doubt... players like Petrov we cant do without.
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Just about recovered from last nights excellent display...as has been mentioned the fluency of passing was there for all to see....Naka when he plays well is head and shoulders above anyone else in Scotland....(still loving that first time pass he fed beattie with for Maloney's goal)
God's foot (copyright www.sixtee7.com) is learning the Scottish game reasonably quickly.
On the Petrov front...I am with Kojo although his stance has softened a bit from his original post on the subject....I would hate to lose him as he is the most consistent and IMHO the only "world class" performer in the team...HOWEVER he is not worth £6 million a year in wages (£5m opportunity cost plus wages) so if he doesn't sign he has to go....Lets hope he signs as he is the first name on the team sheet for me....
On the negative side: I still think we are two full backs and a central midfielder away from a very good team....
PS Was that really Jimmy Johnstone on the wing in the last 15 minutes?
BBJ on a one on one and Lenny on the overlap...a last defenders worst nightmare ;-)
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Paul67 and anybody else looking into it. Back before the "succesful' share issue at Ibrox, I was able to look into the various companies connected to Rangers due to my job. I reckoned at that time the total debt surrounding Rangers was somewhere in the region £175-£200M. With the movement of debt I would think the debt over at MIH must now be at least a quarter billion maybe more.
Can anybody confirm those numbers?
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Raymondo7........I'm not saying sell Stan for the sake of it......IF he doesn't take up a new deal then sell to the hights bidder.
that go's for any player coming to the end of a contract
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Maciej is pronounced "MAH-tchay". It's an archaic Polish form of "Matthew".
My first post! Great site.
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My dear friend Gerry,
Not too worry,pal........
I have had the same remarks directed at me......
There are none so blind as........
Fuggggggetttttabooooutit.....!!!
Our point has been made and let it go at that.......
My dear friend....Minesastella....
The instigator Supreme.....
Stella Maris.....Check that....
Make mine ... Stella By Starlight....
MMMMMMMMM!
On the Banks of the Aromatic Suez Canal....... those were......... what dreams are made of!
To Continue........
Glad to have you aboard , my friend.....
You are hereby invited to join the rest of the Happy Campers, as we all set sail on the Good Ship Lollipop, accompanied by our Vulpine Li'l Admiral.
The Horizon Beckons.... This journey which we are starting has only ONE DESTINATION....
EUROPA HERE COME THE CELTIC!
Hearts in Contention.....???
The Tynecastle Sandcastle, will wilt and slide...as the rest of the Clubs Hunt and Peck, at its foundation...... Injuries? Ya Bet!
Only... the Good Guys will get Bettah and Bettah and Bettah!!!
Hail! O Hail!The Celts WILL PREVAIL...!!
When comes the happy End of this tale.
Then We'll have another Go,
Just as Henrik did of old,
On the Greenfield of Lisbon.,
In the Morning!
Like that?......You can have it!
No rights reserved.
Kojo.
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Very funny article in todays Guardian by Nicky Campbell on Graeme Souness.He finishes by reminding us Graeme`s nose is blue and pointing in the direction of Ibrox.( Apparantly a large number of Geordies never took to him--Fancy that!) From the many hostile posts on the Rangers site many of them fear it may be true.If it is I suspect that the agony of Alec Mcleish may endure a little longer than even the most sadistic would wish as it would surely take a little time to ease Souness from St James while letting Rangers drift to the point where the fans are more concerned with getting Eck out than with who comes in
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Regarding St Anthony's question of Celtic players who played in European finals, didn't Hamish McAlpine play for Dundee Utd, or was it Billy Thompson?
People tend to forget the moustached one played a few games for the tic.
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watching the people on this site is definately heartwarming, articulate, and funny.... the one bit im not so sure on is the bit where people change from doom and gloom to the league is ours!!!! all in the space of a week.... now as paul has said, his judgement is such that he feels we will have domination for a decade, a few other people agree strongly and then say how crucial the month of november is for this to happen???
my season ticket mates from work, ran up to me on monday stating"well, what about that ****" "nakamura will be away by january" "if thats how wee gingers gonna play his team then, its better we pack in now" i being the football knowledge, kindly explained to them that its been mentioned by WGS before, that away from home, celtic are going to take the sting out of games, and pass teams off the park, taking away the cup tie like atmosphere, "but thats ****, we love the away games for that" also the fact that the tiempo away from home is such that opposing players hammer into naka, as quick as possible, and at paradise, with the space he will get, then he will be the catalyst for all things good in our play at home... so therefore he wont be going home in january.... then along comes last night, BANG. now i for one love the fact that we are playing a european style of football, possible not as fast or freeflowing as TBs team.. but can that be expected right now? for too many years now a berkovic, or a juninho were what we needed, a di canio...but now, when we have one who has more assists than anbody else in british football. his inadequaces get highlighted much more so than his delights.... leaving the stadium last night(my 1st visit in 2 years)our faces where a throwback to the centenary year... that is how i remember celtic supporters leaving to go home.........as for that free kick, only davie provans in 85 was better......this next month doesnt hold the key to the season, leagues are won, well we all know that one....but if the season ticket holders watch performances like that, even 60% of the time, then i dont feel you will hear the grumbles that you heard over the last 5 years, and that alone will make WGS the right man for the job in my eyes........
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My dear friend Martybhoy,
Pleasure to greet you,pal...
Always appreciated the cut of your Jib...
Cool clear eyes of a Seeker of Wisdom and Truth......and all that.
Didn't ya know..... I have a Pipe right into your office!
Your Chips to Go are world famous...
I just gave Mabel Your RECIPE...
We shall dine verry weell indeed,
with Deep Fried Mars Bars to follow...Natch!
Loverly Chatting!
Adios, Muchacho!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
Addendum:
Say,Pal,
Do You have Celtic Re-run?
I just watched the game twice more this morn...
I'm in Heaven,
Oh! I'm in Heaven,
And the Score Sublime.
Will Keep me thro' The Week!
For In Celtic lies the Happiness,
We seek!
When we see The Ibrox DINGHY,
SPRING A LEAK!
Like it? Ya Can Have it!
Boy, Boss .......I'm giving away the Store this Morn.!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
Addendum...
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Evening guys, haven't been on for a few days.
Great stuff last night. I can't easily remember the last time we scored five goals at Celtic Park. It's a good feeling right now. Have to say though, I thought Sutton deserved his Keevin's ranking of 6!!
Tim A Loy 5:31
Where do you sit at Celtic Park? My brother was spreading that very rumour last night. Block 442 in the North Stand?
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Just catching up on some of the posts made last night during the game......
Oh My God !
Warzone-again....
Bigjoefaatherigswhonowlivesinspain
andhashismumovertostaywithhim-
I am sooooooo shocked !
I would never have guessed that you were the Grand Wizard of the CQN K.K.K.
I,m astonished to think that even during a game as scintillating as last nights,you managed to start a riot...singlehandedly.
:p
noel.
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HI PAUL. FELLOW CELTS.JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS . DID I READ IN THE HERALD TODAY THAT A SUBSIDIARY OF M.I.H HAD MADE A WHOPPING PROFIT .AND THAT THE EGO WAS AS YOU WOULD EXPECT DELIGHTED ,THAT DISAPPOINTED ME READING THAT , GOD FORGIVE ME BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE MAN GO DOWN , SECONDLY WHAT MUST THE MEDIA SAY /DO TO US TO GET US TO IGNORE THEM . FED UP TONIGHT READING ABOUT HUGH KEEVINS ,TRAINER , ET AL. NOT ONE OF THEM IS ANY DIFFERENT, THEY WRITE FOR THE COUNTRY.IF KEEVINS DIDNT TOE THE PARTY LINE HIS NEXT JOB WOULD BE WITH THE BIG ISSUE (NO OFFENCE BIG ISSUE) SELLING IT. THE REST ITS A LABOUR OF LOVE CELTIC BASHING .BUT WHY NOT ITS OK TO DO IT.THEIR REACTION TO OUR RANTS WILL PROVOKE A REACTION AND KEEP US IN JOBS, GULLIBLE LOT THE CELTIC FANS . PLEEEEEASE DONT BUY THEIR RAGS HAIL HAIL
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HI PAUL. FELLOW CELTS.JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS . DID I READ IN THE HERALD TODAY THAT A SUBSIDIARY OF M.I.H HAD MADE A WHOPPING PROFIT .AND THAT THE EGO WAS AS YOU WOULD EXPECT DELIGHTED ,THAT DISAPPOINTED ME READING THAT , GOD FORGIVE ME BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE MAN GO DOWN , SECONDLY WHAT MUST THE MEDIA SAY /DO TO US TO GET US TO IGNORE THEM . FED UP TONIGHT READING ABOUT HUGH KEEVINS ,TRAINER , ET AL. NOT ONE OF THEM IS ANY DIFFERENT, THEY WRITE FOR THE COUNTRY.IF KEEVINS DIDNT TOE THE PARTY LINE HIS NEXT JOB WOULD BE WITH THE BIG ISSUE (NO OFFENCE BIG ISSUE) SELLING IT. THE REST ITS A LABOUR OF LOVE CELTIC BASHING .BUT WHY NOT ITS OK TO DO IT.THEIR REACTION TO OUR RANTS WILL PROVOKE A REACTION AND KEEP US IN JOBS, GULLIBLE LOT THE CELTIC FANS . PLEEEEEASE DONT BUY THEIR RAGS HAIL HAIL
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BigJoewhocouldstartafightinanemptyblog
Damn! this joined up lark is contagious!
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just watching the game from last night. I taped the special reserves and it turned out to be the big match!! IT just struck me how fluid the whole midfield, even Lenny, were. Lenny is popping up left and right, as is Stan and Naka. The strikers are interchanging with the midfield. It's stunning.
Also caught the end of the daily huddle. Apparently NL Was level for the goal that was chalked off!!
How good would that goal have been, if allowed to stand?
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STEVIE21 - i am in the lower section 113 and i looked around and not many stood up but when CB was taken off the whole ground stood up. Did you see the look Boruc gave the ballboy when he burst the baloons. Paul said on another thread that last night was judgement on how WGS team had come on since the start. Well say no more CMON THE HOOPS
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Paul-
Well done on your excellent article.
After the heights of last night-It was nice
to come in and read " rangers will play in our shadow for a generation ."
By the looks of things,it won,t just be our shadow they are living in.
After quite a few years in the doldrums it looks as though most of Scottish football could be about to drag themselves into the new millenium.
Teams like hearts,kilmarnock,motherwell,
Hibernian and even Aberdeen-if they can get themselves a half-decent coaching team-are starting to see the fruits of the youth systems that they were forced to put in place by the stringent costcutting which was necessary to see off the shadow of bankruptcy.
The only team whose investment in youth seems to have failed are of course rangers.
I really can,t (through my green-tinted glasses)see a way out for rangers at this moment in time.
Your prediction may well come true but -
Do you honestly think CQN has room for yet another ORACLE ?
:P
noel.
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They are advertising a programme on Setanta for Sunday after the Celtic Game at 6:30pm. It's an interview with Fergus McCann.
I hope it is half as good it could be. With no connection to the club now, wee Fergus can see what he feels.
Could be very interesting!!
Instead of refreshing my browser all the time for CQN, I have been keeping my NewsNow session open and clicking on the CQN story. It pops up a new window a puts CQN on the Top stories list at the side.
Another opportunity to spread the CQN word!!
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Did I also read last night some eejit suggesting a limit of one post a week ?
Aye right....
noel.
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Sir Paul,
I reply to your observation....oh! so, Acuminous!!....I am told by one who knows......that several of the Celtic Pantheon, are readers of your illustrious Opus.
Mebbeso, Mebbeso.......The Fourth Dimension jibe, was the tack in the Bahookey!( Can I say that? )
One forgets...I am as guilty as anyone.... Players DO read their Reviews.....As we all do........Although I for one Refuse to Admit to that singular act!
I am now beginning to believe that Sandshoe Sanny....... He of the Rufus Follicles.....is in Deep Deep Merda........
As the saying goes......A joke is a Joke ........But Fie.....this is a Pantomime!
The Unraveling of the Ibrox Sock will be attracting the attention of all the Jobless Cats... as they jockey for a place in the Hallowed Halls of Ignominy!
Mr. Souness, although not officially on the Dole, may be doing a little of the Jockeying....... Just an Opinion ...Nothing More....
Nevertheless...Probably the Labour Exchange may be a more rich mine for the Ibrox Head Hunters.
The time has come to Divvy up or Shut up for the Repugnant Ray of Darkness.(Is there such a thing? You Betcha!)
The Metronome of Justice has started its journey.
Time for all good boys to root out every last dime in the Piggy Banks.
Tail of November....You say!
Orders have been sent... and Bundles of Ever SO DAMP Kindling, along with Dozens of Shiny Looking -Glasses, are on their way to The Offices of The Repugnant One!
HMMMMMMMMMM!!
I wonder??
Seriously,Folks........I'm DEADLY Serious!!
Celtic are The Bhoys.
Kojo.
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Kojo,
Them chips are the finest I swear...the recipe came from a michelin starred chef, one Heston Blumenthal.
The preparation takes time just like all good things but the result is magnificent...just like the Celtic cake coming out the Paradise oven.
I'm watching Mr Ramsey at the moment too....for an ex hun....I still quite like him.
Anyway.....keep the palyers chilled between games, heat at weekends and come May the championship cake will taste delicious.
Of course it will be topped with a 3 year contract for yes, you got it Mr Petrov.........
Yours in Celtic as always,
Martybhoy...
Oh and apparently Lennies goal wasn't offside......gutted.
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Did I also read last night some eejit suggesting a limit of one post a week ?
Aye right...
noel.
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Haveny posted for a while again. Been reading faithfully every day though.
I was at the game last night and like one of the other posters said it was like leaving the stadium during the centenary season/ treble season. Definitely the best home performance of the season so far.
I was previously a bit dubious of Nakamura's role in the side. I thought he got bullied out of games too easily but last night he coped with some rough stuff from Motherwell and completely bossed the game. His cross field passing switching play from right flank to left was pinpoint every time.
I liked Maloney and Wallace on the left. They worked some great openings for Wallace to get crosses in but on the other hand they were hardly tested at all defensively.
I thought Lennon was level as well watching his goal on Celtic TV tonight. That was the only disappointment of the night.
If we play like that against the forces of darkness we will be in the nxt round of the mickey mouse cup and out of sight in the league.
BBC Sport links Ranieri with the Hearts job. Give it a couple of weeks and McLeish might even apply!
Port Bhoy
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Got to fancy souness for the hearts job-
He will be thinking "I,ve got wads of Lithuanian dollars to blow-
who can ah buy ?"
Next day Raphael Scheidt turns up at the training ground-
"Eh-Mr. Romanov says ah,ve to start the day......"
:)
noel.
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After last night's game, I got the impression that young Lions began to roar (...think 'jungle').
I started to wonder...
Me wondering is never a good thing, by the way, but as I am typing with 2 indices (fingers) this could be longer than I first thought.
I was thinking -
Motherwell...last game of last season...the old lion, rolling over, relinquishing(?)..
I got the impression that we were lacking leadership and desire.
Meanwhile I was thinking -
Motherwell...first game of new season...the auld lion's kinsmen (a' wi' their ankles badly bitten) reinforce themselves wi' yung cubs, and come out with little spoils and under an intense glare...(...think 'jungle' again).
Meanwhile I was still thinking -
Motherwell...first match of second quarter (still following?), lions, tigers and teddy bears. I got the impression that we are strong, intelligent, and hungry.
The nature of the beastie is not the same !
Meanwhile I was still thinking -
Motherwell... no more problem any more.
Then I started thinking -
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Does KB have an older sister ?
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weeminger and jimtim (lose the CAPITALS pull-eeease!),
The good figures reported for Murray's group were just small beer - a 4million rise in profits for one of his steel firms Austin Trumanns), who seem to have done fairly well of late. But their chairman notes that they are now in "what is proving to be a less stable market place." Oh dear!!
Last year, as I recorded on my blog in August:
By whatever method it was reached, Murray International Holdings Ltd announced it had net borrowings of £230m. Oh, but it has also guaranteed bank borrowings of subsidiary and associated undertakings of £140m.
This was before the £50million deal to take on Rangers' debts and another deal to buy out ENIC.
Before all this, MIH had a net worth of just £100million. And God knows how much massaging of the figures was needed to reach THAT figure!
Massive debt, worsening trading conditions, an imploding fitba team. All we need now is an impatient Halifax-Bank of Scotland or a change of approach by the auditors and you have the ingredients for a very messy omelette!
With (casino) chips to go?
Smells like pure BUTTAAHHH!!
(http://celticfcblog.blogspot.com)
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Noel90
It
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Oh and he doesn't like space filled posts.
maybeweshouldallpostlikebigjoethen.
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Hi all
If Steanta Sports have replaced Hateley with Tosh McKinlay even for Celtic games the message might be eventually getting through to their management, still Brown to go though.Cant understand being unable to get Celtic TV as a stand alone station rather than be roped into a Setanta package for the year. Anyone know if this has benefitted Celtic by increasing our revenue or have we lost subscribers to Celtic TV ?
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Kian's Dad
7:58
I sit in Block 402 in the North Stand but couldnt get to the game last night.
I got this story from my sister who was waiting to collect her kids from school when one of her friends sons ran up and told her mum, who was talking to my sister at the time, that George, son of a well known centre forward/midfielder/centre half, had told him that he was going to live in Italy and he was going in the summer.
You have to bear in mind that the kids are at primary and possibly George heard his mum & dad talking about the possibility of going to Italy.
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Raymondo7, I was not won over by our football in the late 90’s, not effective at all. The difference between then and now is that now we have the bigger budget, then Rangers had.
WeeMinger, by my estimates your figure is at the lower end of what I am expecting. Expect more than £¼ billion debt.
Welcome dk, good to hear from you.
Cheers Noel, money will win, it always does.
Thanks TheMadMurph, spreading the gospel like a true evangelist.
Thanks for that info Kojo. Reviews are more difficult to read than Ulysses, so the players have my sympathy.
Playing for Celtic must have enormous compensations, but I am sure it is an enormous burden.
The gallery do not play the game and do not take team instructions.
The "fourth dimension" comment captured a problem in two words.
You know I think of myself as a reasonable man, but on reading your splendid prose on the demise of Sandy and Ray it gave me a warm glow. The Germans have a word for it which I wish I could spell.
JimTim, JohnBhoy, The Murray group have benefited during the period to Jan 05 by high steel prices – they hold large stocks. The figures we will see next week will reflect these high steel prices.
They will not reflect the collapse in world steel prices since January.
I mean this most profoundly; ouch.
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Sixtaeseven-
I,ve been thinking too....
No !-don,t go yet..
Since Gordon Strachans, appointment as manager,and the subsequent statements about his "vision for Celtic".
Since our earlier display of the short sharp passing game against Dundee United..part of the Hibernian game..fair part of the hearts game.
After watching the "total football"
of last night-it came to me.
I might not be totally correct but I really hope I am in the ball park-
The Ajax team ,which defeated AC Milan in the 1995 Champions League Final' played that lovely fast moving football that we enjoyed last night.
Compare them-
Van der Saar - Boruc
Reizeger - Camarra/Wallace
Frank De Boer - Telfer
Danny Blind - McManus
Ronald De Boer - Bobo
Edgar Davids -Lennon
Seedorf - Nakamura
Kanu - Petrov
Kluivert - Sutton
Litmanen - Beattie
Overmars - Maloney
Okay-we are not quite there yet but through my Super Green-Tinted Optimistic Glasses...
We have made a start....
I definitely know where we want to end up...
Have I went too far ? again....
noel.
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After watching last nights game (and comparing it to the Dundee Utd game) it hit me:
We can tear teams apart at will as long as they let us play by not diving into tackles and/or if we get a goal or two. It's like their walls cave in and it turns into a training match. However, when we play a Hearts or Kilmarnock side who will not give you a second on the ball without crunching into a tackle we struggle.
I think we need not only a 'hardman' who can play a bit but more people who can turn things around when we're losing it. Currently we have plenty who can play some amazing football when the rest of the team are playing but we need someone with more grit IMO.
Saying that... give us Dundee Utd or Motherwell any week!
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sorry to be dim but...
who is sandy?
who is ray?
who is rory?
who/what is the big C?
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hi, long time reader, 1st time...... etc
anyone who needs a link for last nights goals, try..
http://media.putfile.com/Celtic-v-Motherwell-26th-Oct-2005
some sublime goals, but can we reproduce this performance against a team that don't just stand back and admire us the way motherwell did.
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1st time post and i mis-spelled my name.
what a fanny !!!!!
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Cheers JohnBhoy and Paul67.
One thing that worries me. I was working in the credit insurance field (dull, I know) until January this year. At that time Rangers were still regarded as a safe buyer, with reasonably acceptable credit limits available for their purchases.
Celtic on the other hand were viewed as a risk, and credit limits difficult to obtain.
Waht this tells me is that the financiers in general view the Murray portfolio as a whole, as strong enough to back Rangers. While I've no doubt that things are looking grim, they might not be as grim as we hope.
I look forward to the end of November.
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My dear friend, Johnbhoy,
Nice piece.
Loverly Cooking Theme......
Very, Very....apropos!
The aroma of fresh cooked biscuits( Twice Baked to ensure Quality)......Is permeating the halls of MIH.
As has been said before.......and justifies repeating.....
"Income 100 Pounds Sterling....
Expenses 99Pounds 18 shillings.....
Equalls............Bliss!
Income 100 Pounds Sterling..
Expenses 100Pounds 18 shillings.
Equalls......... Bankruptcy!"
Sterling Advice(Paraphrased) from the Redoubtable........Mr. Micawber.
Debt, Gentlemen........ is the Sword of Damocles....... that is hovering hovering o'er the Blue Fields.
If MIH Stumbles, then The Great Antagonist Collapses!
A Dandy Example for Students of Cause and Effect.
Debt, Debt, Debt, Debt, Debt!
Something that the Eminent Parsimonious Purveyors of Largess, in Charge of the Celtic Counting Room, are ALL TOO WELL AWARE!
CELTIC CAN AND MUST NOT ALLOW THE DEBT CANCER TO Metastasize!
Remember, even if Celtic acquires not a Penny More of Debt, The Interest must be Paid in Full on Existing Debt......
This is the time for Intelligent Use of Funds........
Time for Celtic to search for New Streams of Financial Income!
Also Celtic MUST BRING BACK THE GOLDEN FLEECE.....EURO SUCCESS is VITAL for the return to Financial Health.
Big, Big task for the Li'l Admiral.
But, I must say that the Ship is Firmly on course the The Isles of The Hesperides.
And Howdya Like ...Them APPLES?
Hail! Hail!
Kujo.
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Jack
The "big C" as its refered to is CONTROVERSY, used to explain why the hacks continue to see things blue even though its Celtic who are on the ascendance, to cause contraversy and in turn sell papers. The big C is also weilded by Kojo to stir debate.... damn you Kojo!!
Noel I see you have your Timmy Mallet green tinted glasses on today...:-)
TBE.
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Tim A Loy
Well that settles it then, if you didn't overhear my brother say it, then it must be true. That is the exact same story my brother has heard. CS's son who goes to St Mad... I believe?
I tried to expand on it a wee bit and said it was AC Milan, but no-one took the bait.
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supercelt
would not a idea we missed every or third word ?
:p
noel.
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Noel90
Took me while there end!
LOL
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supercelt
You just daft me !
:))))
noel.
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My dear friend Jack,
The Published word is indeed a word to Conjure with.
Just like a Fair Cop....in the Vernacular ...no less.....The Legendary Phrase......
"Anything that you say....can....and will.......be used against you........etc. etc."
The Libel Rule Is very extant in the Printed Media.
Preamble is over........
Rory= Personification of the Fourth Estate.( The Name Rory in Scots means Red Headed (Top) King.
Ray= Raymond Burr..... Ironsides,if you will...
Refers to .........Guess?
Sandy(Short for Sandshoe Sanny) = Red Head with the Christian nomen of Alexander.......... Guess?
The Big "C"= Is Initial of the Word "CONTROVERSY" Essential to every Story Printed in the Press....... No BIG "C" ....No Interest will be Generated!
Claro?
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
Addendum"
My dear friend. Bald Ego...
Your definition of the Big "C"
Is Excellent.....Could not have done any Bettah Myself....
Its a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood!
Its a Beautiful Day, today.
Will you be my Friend,?
Will you be my Friend?
(Ah! Mr. Rogers......God Bless you.....Where ever you are!)
Kojo.
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Paul67
I guess you mean Schadenfreude - roughly translated as the feeling of gloating at another's misfortune
I think those that say Motherwell gave us too much space are missing the fact that we stretched them all over the park
Celtic now have shape to add to their change of pace - keeping shape makes it a lot easier for players to switch positions and confuse the opposition has happened a number of times last night
VertWolf
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A couple of postings here and on other 'brother' blogboards are attempting to whip up some anti_to a proposed testimonial for Alan Shearer. Why? As far as I have been made aware Shearer has an affection towards Celtic. I'm aware of NL's run-in with Shearer and the fact he turned us down as the famous song goes, and we got Larsson instead-marvellous. But why this anti-Shearer spin. If it is true and there is a testimonial in Newcastle-Brilliant!! Lets go and enjoy it and show supposedly the most the most passionate football fans in England how a team should be supported and at the same time be respectful of the fact that Celtic is Alan Shearers preferred choice, rather than the huns who would have seen it as an excuse for the last night at the proms with Englands favourite son. Make no mistake, if he wanted Rangers there he would have got them there. TAL
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Paul,
The warm fuzzies we are all feeling at the moment will no doubt extinguish at some point, and although I do derive some pleasure from the pain our less dignified city rivals are feeling at the moment I sincerely believe that Celtic will always need a strong Rangers and that includes any possible venture into the EPL.
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Very positive blog today. Anyone remember when TFOD - or their fans with typewriters at least - were boasting of having two teams; one for Europe and one for the bread and butter (buttah?)
As long as we aim for steady, sustained and sustainable long term improvement I'll be delighted. And if the huns go bust meantime even better.
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Motherwell were never given a chance last night-
I,ll happily take scrappy 1-0 victories at every away ground in the country if we are going to be entertained like that in the home games .
Spotted Mark Hughes leaving Celtic Park last night-
Now-who do y o u think he was watching ?
Doubt if it was Big John-would have watched him playing for Wales last week.
noel.
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Paul67
Why all the emphasis on MIM?
Why no analysis on the financial situation closer to home?
Why the focus on TFOD when it comes to the club's ranking?
At least Kojo is honest with all the talk of getting shot of SP.
Regarding the issue with SP:
What is he on at the moment?
What is he worth if he signs a new 3yr contract?
Will he get carryover terms plus a signing on fee?
Or will he get an increase?
What is he worth in terms of basic pay?
Same as BB @ £28K pw?
Any thoughts?
I find it quite troubling that no mention of the club's financial situation is allowed to develop. It is the big issue at present now that WGS has started to make progress but where apart from Kojo's ramblings is the discussion on a site that has in the past pushed its USP as the emphasis it places on the club's financial health.
2004/05 - Title run-in / rank football = Lets talk money.
2005/06 - CL flop / £8mill net down = Lets talk football.
For what it's worth I think the club will go after the "Full Petrov", £8mill to cover the loss of the CL money. Any movement on the "Big5" will be used to bring in new blood. If we keep SP we will need a "Half Petrov" (£4mill) to keep the debt steady. So by-by to BBJ and AT and their wages and say hello to nobody in particular.
The one thing that is evident is that we are looking at the incredible shrinking "CFC", wages/total football costs down to £25-6mill this year with a target of £20mill for next year? I wonder if the season book prices will move to match.
That is why I do not think that SP will be made any realistic offer, the money won't be made available, it will be re-run of the CB saga of the summer, look out for the statement saying that
"I had to go, the club made me a brilliant offer but the lure of being part of the 'Casino Club' was too much too much. The casino in question is Wigan not Monaco.
That's a little joke for all you Northern Soul fans out there.
Finally who is Kojo?
1) PL's mum?
2) AV's agent?
3) WGS's wife?
4) BQ's lawyer?
And should we care given all the patronising drivel that he comes away with?
Kojo = Board plant!?!
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My dear friend, Vertwolf,
A very good word.....it describes our mutual feelings concerning the Dolorous Condition of our Ancient Antagonist.
To get to the point.........
I don't know if you caught one of my submissions from last night... wherein I mentioned that Celtic were .......In Flashes....In Flashes.... Employing a Shape... very similar if not in actuality......
4-2-4!
This was pointed out to me on several occasions by one of my Guests, as we viewed Chan67.
"And He Soitenly Did,Ollie"
I myself am no Graduated Adept of the Soccer Technical University....
But I did note, that what he was pointing out, did resemble a goodly shape of 4-2-4!
The Plot Thickens......
Anyway, Celtic on last evening's form were Devastating....... The lead up to the Goals was skillful and pure EYE CANDY to the Beholder.
More,Please!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Damonii, I totally disagree. For as long as they are allowed to be they'll be an albatross around our neck. WE made them. THEY need us. Not the other way about.
I've said often enough that if they hadn't used our existence to pander to the lowest common denominator in Scottish society they would be no bigger today than Partick Thistle or Clyde.
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The story below is from the New Celtic WebSite
CELTIC’S social role in the community has received a ringing endorsement from the European Parliament. Belgian MEP Ivo Belet visited Glasgow this week as part of a study group looking at football and whether the sport has a social responsibility as well as an economic role to play.
And having seen the work the club is doing, for example through the Celtic Education project in conjunction with Glasgow City Council, as well as looking at the work of the Celtic Charity Fund, the Euro politician was in no doubt that the Celtic example is one other clubs throughout Europe should follow.
Mr Belet told the Celtic website: “There were two reasons for coming over here. One was to do with the European Parliament, which is looking at football and whether its role should be just economic or should there be a social dimension to it as well.
“The study trip to Glasgow was good in that we were able to see in Celtic an example of football playing a social role in the community.
“The other reason was to look at Celtic and see how what they are doing could be applied to Belgian teams, and certainly, the Celtic example is one that should be followed.
“People in Belgium are already very well aware of Celtic and its supporters, and the fact that both UEFA and FIFA made special awards to the fans.
“And Celtic have been very successful in fulfilling their social obligations.”
There are already strong links between Celtic and Belgian football. The Belgian FA actually modelled its own Social Charter on Celtic’s Charter and Mission statement, with Martin O’Neill accepting a copy of this at the time prior to the Champions League match against Anderlecht in Brussels.
And the Belgian FA have continued to promote Celtic as an excellent example of a community club.
Mr Belet will be making a presentation in February 2006 on the social role of football and how important it is to a community and society. And his trip to see what Celtic are doing will certainly play a central role in his presentation.
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Kojo-old buddy-
Celtic played a 4-3-3 last night.
Why do you think Petrov and Lennon were so far up the park ?
noel
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For new readers, several of the posters here write in their own fashion. With the aim of making things perfectly clear here are some of the commonly used terms as I understand them:-
C - Controversy, if you can't print good news just make it up
Asset management - this means taking all your old lamps out to the rag and bone man and getting a new shiny lamp that won't make your wishes come true
Ray - refers to a Manta Ray a type of sea dwelling creature that flaps around the ocean
Sanny - is a type of old style trainer, not much good when compared to new trainers like Admirals
Rory - is a lazy journalist
Karren Brady - for some a looker who runs a football club and wants to help us manage one of our assets
Karen Brady - someone's ex from the pub
Buttah - pure butter, just the thing or a brighter future
lol and lol - general sentiments on this site towards Karren Brady either lots of love or loads of laughs
First post - one of the highest accolades is to post first just after Paul 67 posts, some people (they know who they are) don't post any relevant point or just ask is this a comment?
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Timmy7
What results really matter to you outside of Euro games.
Remember the videos (5-1) (6-2)
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For me one of the most interesting things about last night was the little admiral's use of substitutions.
Of our two fullbacks, I would say Telfer is the weaker. With the game in the bag, and hence the opportunity to tinker with the defence, I would say an Agathe for Telfer switch would have been more appropriate. Was the latter even on the bench??
I am in neither the "pro" or "anti" Agathe camp, but it looks to me as if his day's as a Celtic player are well and truly numbered.
I would also draw similar conclusions from the fact young Aiden came on ahead of Thomson; but I'm led to believe he was suspended. Can anyone confirm this?
Needless to say, I think Thommo's days are numbered as well.
On a different subject, after just watching the Daily Huddle, can anyone tell me why we pay Murdo McLeod to voice his opinion?
There he was, waxing lyrical on all things Celtic. As sure as night follows day, when we inevitably get a bad result he'll be puting the boot in, either in the Daily Ranger or Radio Scotland.
For me the guy's sold his sole and should not be entertained on any official channels.
Having endured Murdo, my spirits were quickly lifted when I inadverantly stumbled upon a top comedy channel - Rangers TV!!
You wouldn't believe it. First of all there was Big Feck, manager of Dignity FC, claiming the ref denied them two stonewall penalties.
After listening to his post match comments it was back to the studio for more incisive analysis from Derek Ferguson and, wait for it, ANDY CAMERON!!
Here was me thinking the pantomime season didn't kick off 'til mid-Novemeber!! What a laugh, I've never listened to such inane drivel in all my days.
Anyway, fingers crossed we can build on last night's fine performance. Unfortunately, it's been a case of one step forward, two steps back over the past few weeks. Hopefully we can crush Dundee Utd and kick on from there.
p.s. Paul, at the risk of appearing a smart arse: schadenfreude.
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noel90
I beg to differ on the 4-3-3. Motherwell played one up front. No point in having four at the back.
2-5-1-2 maybe. Who knows? WGS will have them and us thinking from now on 'what the hell is going on here'.
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Timmy7
Could not agree more, I hope they fold.
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GM,
I just caught the tail end of WGS getting interviewed on BBC 1. He talked about Thommo hiding an injury in an attempt to play. But laughed it off praising his desire
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Lads,
Maybe I'm alone, but I was very interested in the substitution of Wallace for Camara last night. I’m surprised that there have been relatively few comments today on this move.
I’ve now watched the game on CH67 and thought the lad had a good game. I wonder what WGS was thinking? Any thoughts?
BBJ. Go for the 100 big man. It will come.
Schadenfreude. I like that word. If I still lived in Scotland, I would be teaching my r*ngers supporting friends some German.
Lubo.
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Rankers and Debt... According to friends who work at HBOS, at the time of 'moving their debt' to a 'mortgage' rankers had to agree to pay every ticket sale for the next TEN years towards their debt. Anyone for Interest Rate rises?
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madmitch
Love the posts- the voice of reason- keep it up.
I hope your wrong though, in the same vein I have discussed with Kojo. I would be livid if we were sacraficing the team to service the shortfall... we are a football club and as Mr Lawwell and B. Quinn have said we are looking toward long term income, i.e. sponsorship deals etc. so having the best team possible on the pitch not only goes towards guarenteeing wins (obviously there can be no guarentees in football but the best team possible helps).
Getting wins gets us into Europe not only getting us in touch with the champion's League cash cow but also raising our profile and strengthening our hand when negotiating our long term incomes.
Have to admit I'd have no problem paying Stan what BBJ gets and get rid of BBJ 28k is an expensive sub.
I would much rather sacrafice the "Half Petrov" and recieve no players in return than lose the "Full Petrov". Two subs for one of the first names on the team sheet? easy choice really, no?
not the most coherent post but its late and I'm ready for bed.
TBE.
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GM
good to see you read my 10.48 post but I don't think Paul will fall for it
Noel/Kojo IMO formations relate to where the players try to get to when they are off the ball - in that sense we played 442 last night but you are right we were so fluid that often 2 midfield players managed to simultaneously support the front two - when they did the others filled in
behind them which led to a lot of interchanging - genuine total football
VertWolf
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Ray= Raymond Burr..... Ironsides,if you will...
Refers to .........Guess?
CQN - why bother paying your tv license, all the light entertainment is right here at the click of a mouse
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Agree with that one.
It seems like WGS is trying to move the team so they play without a set formation. Lennon on the right wing with Maloney covering and Nakamura switching over to the right... it's craziness but bhoy did it work! Streched them like an elastic band.
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soceltfish--
correct.
Then it switched to a 2-1-5-2 for the last 10 minutes-the quick switch from left to right had motherwell totally bewildered-
Wallace,Maloney and McGeady were outstanding-great to watch.
bring them on ...ah think
we,re ready..
historyreader
That was really funny !
Never new about the prestige attached to the 1st post-
Bigjoeisthemanjustnow.....
Need to try harder...
:)
:p
noel...
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Lubo
For some time people have been saying we had no alternative at left-back - WGS was maybe checking if that was true in a won but competitive first team game - if he can save on transfer fees he may be able to meet Stan The Man's contract demands
I thought in an attacking sense Wallace had a good game but he was not really tested defensively so the jury is out
VertWolf
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kojo,
thanks for your explanations on rory, ray etc
all is indeed claro!
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My dear friend, Noel90,
What you have said may very well be true.....
I do not have the Soccer Acumen to dispute your studied observation.
In this I am only the Vessel that is supplying the intel on the use of 4-2-4 Formation. ....In flashes.....Don't forget.... Flashes......
As pointed out to me by a very worthy Doyen....Yes Doyen ,of a past Celtic Eleven!
Whatever, the Formation.......it is more than streets......think Boulevards.....Check that......Freeways...... Ahead of any tactical Performance of Erstwhile Celtic Elevens ,encompassing the Past Few Years.
I am a Fan of The Li'l Admiral....as you know....... He is the Bees Knees! Hubba Hubba!and 23 SKIDOO! ALSO THE VOADY- O- DO!in my estimation!
No praise is High enough for what he has accomplished.
But his Broom is Poised and Ready!
Look out... any Malingerer or Aristarch...
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Vertwolf,
it was a great performance last night, but the day I see our fullbacks scoring then I know we have cracked it- Total Football. Someone get a swab Tommy Gemmells DNA before it's too late.
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damonii, sorry for the delayed response. Fool that I am I went away to watch the end of Scotsport.
I enjoy beating TFOD as much as any other tim but I don't enjoy sharing sponsors or being classed as part of a sectarian double act. the sooner they go bust, the better
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So Celtfish
Telfer has come close on a couple of occasions this season and if Wallace gets a run in the team I would bet on him scoring before the end of the season
Take your point though!
VertWolf
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lubo,I was on another Celtic site this afternoon and so many of the posters seemed to be of the opinion that Wallace at left-back was desparation.
I couldn't disagree more.
I thought his introduction breathed new life into us at a timewhen the game had gone slightly flat,he pushed forward at every opportunity and his delivery into the box was good too.
I believe Ashley Cole used to play as a striker but wasn't brilliant there,so he was moved back to full-back as his manager saw something in him and felt he could play there.He spent a period at Crystal Palace as the defensive side of his game wasn't so good,but he worked hard and got into the first-team at Arsenal.
In my opinion,he is currently the best left-back in world football.
If Wallace can add to his game and work hard on the training ground WGS may just have unearthed a hidden gem.The fact that people don't seem to think that he is the best left-sided midfielder in the world is irelevant.Time will tell if has what it takes,but I was impressed with his half hour cameo last night.
I also think that it speaks volumes for our manager that he is trying to utilise the players at his disposal to their fullest extent.
BankieBhoy
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Hi Paul,
I can't argue with your financial summary and even if I had the accounts in front of me doubt if I could put up anything to rebut your view, however I do have to say that I think *a generation* of dominance is a tad optimistic and may just be the result of those tinted specs again As always you have presented your points in a clear manner in another interesting and informative posting
Thismancraig3.44 :- I feel he will go in the transfer window, I might be being over cynical but I feel one of the reasons he is being held out the team is to prevent him becoming cup tied in Europe before the window opens.
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Vertwolf, I did indeed read you 10.48 post; ex post.
At least I caveated my humble offering by saying I didn't want to appear a smart arse.
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BankieBhoy
I think you are right - in todays game pace is often more important for fullbacks rather than wide midfielders and this is something that Wallace certainly has - WGS is maybe looking to exploit this
VertWolf
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gm
no problem I was just winding you up - you did indeed have your caveat which I omitted - hope no-one thinks I have a tidy posterior?
VertWolf
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Kojo
23 SKIDOO- jeez , I didnt have you down as a lover of early 80s, northern,angular indie agit-funk! always preferred A Certain Ratio myself :o)
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noel90
nest best thing is the 1st post after midnight :-)
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Welcome up tae the borucs.
That’s it VertWolf, GM, thanks.
Edward, I do tend to look on life with a distinctly green view. If you look at the shifting sands of supremacy in Glasgow it tends to move in twenty year cycles or thereabout.
Sure one club will win against the cycle every now and then, but the upper hand does not change often.
Celtic were behind from the war until 1965, and on top until 1986. Rangers held way until 2000. I know the trophy count in recent seasons leaves room for dispute, but I think we are five years into a new cycle.
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GM,
Is Murdo MacLeod a fishmonger? You said he sold his sole...:o)
So Celtfish,
Agree with you re the Shearer testimonial. Shearer has been seen at Celtic Park several times. Not sure of his connections but DD authorised a 60k a week deal for Shearer, which didn't materialise, after Henke left. MON was trying to link Shearer with Sutton again.
Shearer is also perceived by the huns as having Celtic leanings. They gave him dogs abuse last summer during the "friendly" game at St James' Park.
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Agree that although Wallace was not at all tested defensively last night, he could well strike up a great double act between himself and Maloney.
The over-lapping and inter changing posistions are a joy to watch.
However their combined heights barely reach Bobo's knees!
KOJO and NOEL Regarding the formation of Celtica, didn't the 'lil admiral' say he wanted to build his team to be able to play against any type of team and in any situation?
That's why it's pivitol to be able to be adaptable and change posistions and style when ever needed.
I really believe that if the progress rate continues at this level then we are definitely on to something.
If not i've still booked my place on the good ship!
When do we leave?;)
Sean
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The quality of the goals last night would grace europe's elite dont doubt it.
On a different note about the idea of a settled defense , we will see changes on the horizon with Balde off to the african nations cup. So Du Wei and/or Virgo will be on hand give or take injuries. I just cant see Varga getting back in.
Agathe to be punted in january as I for one am sick of mouthy players and the inflated ego syndrome of some living on past reputations.If the WGS reign so far has taught me anything its honest hard work gets you just desserts. If your good enough your in , if not , goodnight.
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My dear friend, Jack,
Loverly name by the by..... Jack!
It always represents Money and Plenty of it to me......But that is another tale.....
Ah! I am afraid that the 23 Skidoo, that I am referring is a saying,much used by College Coeds, Circa early 1920s probably arcing out in the 1930s used by the Rudy Valee contemporary fans.
I happened to know Dear old Rudy in his declining years.......
Very erudite..... A complete and utter Anglophile....... Loverly Man.
A very staunch Yalie!
He once even let me warble a song or two using his Legendary Megaphone!
Sounded great! Or so I have been told!
Now my tale is told.
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Koojo/sean.zo/soceltfish-
sorry.
I meant to a say f l u i d
4-3-3 which then flows into a 2-1-3-1 er, 3
and ....
Its okay- I,ve GOT IT ON...
:p
noel.
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Big Liam I don't think Guinea qualified of the African Nations.
They didn't make it for the World Cup and I think the qualification doubles up for both competions.
Got you NOEl
Sean
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VertWolf, BankieBhoy.
Thanks for your comments.
I agree that Ross was not fully tested defensively. It is however, an interesting point about "reformed" full backs.
Does anyone know how many (really) successful full backs had originally previously played in other/forward positions?
Without placing a burden on the young lad's head, I think Ross might be an alternative at left back.
I agree with your point, BankieBhoy, about the manager "trying to utilise the players at his disposal to their fullest extent". Very Good Management indeed, in my view.
I would love to know the thoughts of WGS, and, of course you clever Chaps at CQN.
Lubo.
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Noel90
not even close see 12.01
VertWolf
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Where's the night shift?
Good night and Hail Hail to all
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Brief history of our relationship with the subject of an upcoming testomonial with the Celts.
Alan Shearer infamous for 'accidentially' kicking Neil Lennon in the head.
English media protected captain fantastic...''never!' they shouted.
But even before that....
Henrik's song.Originally...
We'll keep on prayin' that you keep playin, oh please don' take my Larsson away''
Quickly changed to ''we went for shearer but he was dearer''
Regarding transfer speculation between player and club.
Fast foward to pre season and a friendly with the toon army.
Song in full swing untill a rash challenge I belive by the said Mr Shearer.
Next time song is sung lyrics are unamously changed for the rest of history to ''we went for Shearer but he's a Wa*ker!''
As far as I can remember anyway.
Sean
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one last post then I'm really off.
I mentioned a while back about attacking full-backs andwingers I think wee Ghord is proving me right!!
With attacking full backs and wingers seemingly on the "wrong" wing we can effectively play with 4 up front!! yes thats 4!!! Thats your 4-2-4 Kojo!! Although more like 3-3-4 on the attack.
With Maloney on the left and Naka lurking on the right they can cut inside allowing wee Ross and Telfer to overlap... this is where there "wrong" wing comes in... they are now in prime postion to shoot on their good foot!!
The only pre-requisite for this system is a top class holding midfielder, who can cover the back two.
Interestingly this is the exact system that won us the European Cup!! If we didn't have full backs going forward Tommy Gemmell may never have score that goal!!
It requires the utmost discipline. If one fullback is forward the other MUST stay back- something I dont think Mo has grasped...yet.
As an example, Arsenal a few years back played a not so different system. Pires(left winger) in the middle or on the right and Ashley Cole(the most attack minded full back I've ever seen) on the overlap and they played the most beautiful football. Notice Viera was their adaptable middle man also.
So Ross fits this to a tee!!! I should get into this management malarky, easy peasy Japan-easy! :-)
TBE.
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Agree with just about everything you said there TBE, with one small observation.
When TG (who started life as a winger by the way) scored the first goal in '67, It was not only passed to him by JC our Right Back, but Tommy was on the wrong side of the field.
Everybody thought they had broken Stein's golden rule, but according to Tommy and Jim at half time JS had told JC that rather than squaring the ball as he had been doing in the first half, he should cut it back to give Celtic the advantage over a blanket defence.
Tommy did however add the rider,that if he hadn't scored he and JC would have been in for a bollocking!
BonsaiCSC
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NOEL
HOW
CAN
YOU
STAY
UP
SooooOOOOOO
LATE
AND STILL
GET UP
FOR WORK
AT 5:30AM??????????
Sean (concerned although amazed)
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Read bobo's interview seanzo.
Guinea are in the african cup of nation in egypt in january.
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jackie mac was a winger
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Paul,
still love the site. The banter on the blog is often very entertaining. However, I do miss the thoughtful, factual articles of the early days.
Any chance of a proper primer for Murray's financials....a researched piece that gives us some context and tells us what to expect and what it might mean?
You've made some references, but they are limited. The projected debt level is meaningless without the appropriate ratios, and info on the owners of the debt.
I fear that the figures will come out, we will all say that the debt is 'big', but be none the wiser as to what it might mean.
Enlighten us please.....:)
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Don't get me wrong, i am a HUGE fan of Maloney, i thought he played magnificently against motherwell and had two magnificent moments in the first half, scoring one and creating another one with a pass that eluded no fewer than 4 motherwell players!
However, i do sense that he was playing slightly out of position. His best moments were all when cut inside, i am not complaining when he has moments like that, but when looking at the amount of times he lost the ball on the wing and poor defensive play, i just think the guy is being played out of position and wonder if better oposition may punish that.
I do sincerely hope that this is the biggest problem Celtic will face, it is definately not major. Don't take this as a criticism of the wee man, in my opinion we have a Gianfranco Zola mark 2 in SM, but do you think we can make him into a top notch left midfielder as apposed to the top notch forward/attacking central midfielder he already is?
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how did nakamure manage to put that free kick in? Absolutely magnificent never seen a ball dip and swerve with so much power, FANTASTIC!!!!
Petrov's third was magnificent too, this is orgasmic football! MAGNIFICENTLY weighted pass by nakamura even better dummy by sutton and larsonesque finish by petrov, oh my word, is this Brazil in disguise?????
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sean.zo
I do a bit of juggling with my sleeping hours.....
Doesn,t mean I,m not shattered !
Bigjoewasveryquitelastnight
musthavebeenoutcelebratinggetting
thefirstpost....
vertwolfbeat that-1st post of the morning ......I think..
I,m off to work again.....
noel
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http://www.fbtz.com
Have fun... :)
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