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Did I win?
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It's all well and good warning us about Man Utd's troubles, but you've missed the biggest example of all: Hearts.
Within hours of going above 50%, Romanov sacked Burley then went after Anderton. Foulkes, who I actually feel sorry for, appears to have been caught up in the flack.
Hopefully the FSA might have something to say about all this, especially given the odd clue at the press conference on the Friday that Burley didn't have a future (he wasn't on any of the photo material given out.)
Anyone for a flat in Gorgie?
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Its a bit of a poor show when you find yourself scrolling frantically through Pauls post to get to the 'post a comment' link. I blame Noel and Big Joe for this, you've turned a grown man into a bairn !!
Better go and read the post now.
Hail Hail
Bhoy O'Bhoy
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"I don't think of Celtic as a company. We're a movement. Celtic are a movement, a World Wide movement" wit a quote!
Hats off to the wee man.
/Bishop B
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I read that Liam Miller is joining Leeds on loan. What might have been, eh Liam ?
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BTW Paul67.
Well done mate!
/Bishop B
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Paul, a word of advice - never say you have a great piece to post the next day, as when the rumours start, it's never possible to meet those expectations! I was waiting to hear that King Henrik was going to be on his way back and that DD was about to give us £100M to spend on players in January and that Celtic had watched my performance in Clydebank last night and were willing to pay me £20k a week to star for the bhoys! Unfortunatley none of those then!
Seriously though, great article! Can't wait to get home to listen to all the interview (no audio at work!). Bhoy O Bhoy, you'll go down in CQN history! Although, if I were you, I'd watch how you step for a few days, Noel's after you!
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Intersting new developement in your delivery of info Paul67. Good work. Mr Quinn agreeing to the interview obviously shows your efforts are being watched and appreciated.
On to Mr Quinns views on us joining a revamped EPL...... ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!! The dangling carrot to encourage investment I believe!!
tpb
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I am very encouraged by the 'close watching brief' comment. Increasily I find the supertanker of my scepicism, regarding the board, is making a U-turn.
They appear to be doing all the right things to bring the debt under control, short of sacking the first XI.
Good informative article with lots to ponder.
As it happens I was listening whilst reading the prospectus for the share issue, which also has a lot to ponder, particularlt the 19million deficeit.
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Paul
Quite a coup, no wonder you built it up. As Chick Nick would say, in terms of blogs this is quality.
CQN is rising to new unchartered heights...
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Great article Paul and well done for getting an interview with BQ.
I haven't listened to the audio yet (not keen to do so at work) but I like the things that BQ has to say. There is a lot of common sense in there, and if our club continues to be run with common sense and pragmatism then we will be successful in the long term. The EPL move may or may not happen, but it is imperative that we at least look at the viability of it and I am glad to hear that we are "sitting at the top table" in any discussions so far.
The interview to me seems simple, straightforward and answers a lot of questions from the last few years. My only gripe is why was none of this communicated at any point in the last 5 years? Or is it the case that it was communicated but got shouted down and lost amidst various other crises of the day?
You are right to keep banging the drum about the dangers of who will own our club in the future and I hope you keep doing so. This is a major worry for all of us and I am afraid it is something that will always be there in this corporate age. All we can do is buy what shares we can afford and keep as much of the club as we can in the hands of the fans.
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Hey, Santa, can I have a spell checker for Christmas?
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Paul,
A real coup to secure a BQ interview, and you've obviously not shied away from asking the tough questions.
However, I can't say I'm surprised by any of the revelations herein, and I don't expect that many dedicated CQN readers will be.
What is interesting is how many of the points you've been making over the last few months were actually reinforced by BQ in his comments.
While he takes a defensive stand on the 2001 share issue, BQ grudgingly admits that the club's PR has been less than effective. This acknowledgement is progress in itself, and one can only hope that Celtic as a club are prepared to take the imortant issue of PR and marketing seriously.
I've mentioned the Nakamura/Du Wei match programme mix up here before, but that is the kind of slipshod amateurism that should have no place at our club.
As for your fears over the new brave new Glazer-flavoured world of football, I have to concur. Celtic must look like a very attractive target for any mercenary businessmen out there. A hugely undermarketed club (brand?) with huge hardcore of loyal fans, significant potential for growing that fanbase, their own 60,000 seater stadium, strong European pedigree and on the threshold of a new lucrative league setup.
I think DD has actually been quite protective of interests, and if he was about to turn Glazer, he has had plenty of earlier opportunities. The worry is DD selling out, no buying in.
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Thanks Paul.
It's great to get info directly rather than via the media machine. Let's all treat the initiative with the respect it deserves so that it becomes a regular feature of CQN.
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too much information for young baa baa to take in at once. will have a wee look at it and then a ponder, but notice already my charity donatiuons look likely to be zero.
Right now, I'm happy to see the end of the word prudent, but am praying finances do not get our of hand. I'd rather see prudent than squandered.
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Paul67,
Without a shadow of a doubt, the best article you have written to date.
I will listen to the audio clips at lunch.
I like how you addressed the governance and management of risk in the business, the control environment is so important too....music to my ears.
Full praise to you in getting the interview, and for Brian engaging with you and us.
Oh and get it right up yer daily retard....I hope you will be trawling the papers to see any breach of copyright over the next few days....
Celtic News, Not Lazy Journalsim...at its. BEST
Hail Hail
PS Can't wait for part 2.......
PPS I'l be buying my shares....
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Nice coup that.
Dispells some of the myth that BQ has no time for the average supporter. I take it as such as he regarded you as a supporter and spoke to you as a supporter and not a predatory news-hack.
Did you ask him does either he , DD, the board read or even heard of CQN or other Celtic websites? It would be interesting to know if they do feel the vibes from the average supporter?
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Whether or not a new training facility/youth academy was promised in the prospectus is, in my opinion, almost irrelevant.
It was very clear that this is what almost all Celtic fans expected. The Celtic board knew this yet did or said absolutley nothing to clarify the situation.
To me, allowing the support to continue to believe this, when they knew fine well it wasn't the case, is equally as bad as promising it and not delivering.
They had ample opportunity to put the record straight and they didn't.
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Well done Paul
Excellent use of technology. The word from source plus an interpretation, this is the way forward. How do you do it, I'd like to try this in courses I'm involved in.
Brendan2k
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So were a movement now. Personally I think Tommy Burn`s description of a "people" is more suitable.
Does B.Quinn mean movement as in tractarianists? lol. Oops there`s that subject that riles so many, surely its not that kind of movement he means eh. Does that make us movers rather than customers then?.
Nah a people will do just fine for me tyverymooch.
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Thank you, Paul and Brian.
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Maybe I'm sticking my neck out as I'm not an established poster here...
...but do we need the 'my post was first', which 'star trek actress looks best' chat? It's not exactly productive and it comes across as pretty sad.
I enjoy reading the news, team discussion and speculation here, but when alot of the 300+ comments are totally irrelevant, it can become quite tiresome.
(and I make no mention of the religious debate!)
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Paul67,
Well done. Keep up the great work.
Celtic FC,
Glad to hear about the delisting (Something I suggested 18months ago).
Hail Hail
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Great post Paul.
Another nail in the coffin of the traditional media outlets.
Keep it up.
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Firstly Paul67, Congratulations on the professional, Informative and Innovative article!!
Is this the first ever CQN EXCLUSIVE?
I like what I heard (literally) from Mr Quinn and it re-enforces what he spoke of during the AGM, Celtic are being run more "Sustainably" than most other clubs in Britain. I feel that this year (no CL money) came too soon to test that sustainability but the fact that the club can still operate and look to next year shows that, financially, we are performing better than we have in the past.
As BQ spoke of, we would have been in BIG trouble had we not made it to Seville, as failure to qualify for the CL that year would have crippled us, to the extent that Henrik and who knows who else would have had to be off loaded.
But alas this year failure to qualify has not had the same disastrous effect, setback would be a better word I feel.
"The Celtic movement"... loved it Brian!
Again Congratulations Paul on an excellent thought provoking article.
TBE.
P.s. Next CQN exclusive- Peter Lawwell???
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Paul-
You didn,t disapoint us.
Your webcast was very professional.
However the message contained within it leaves me on the horns of a dilemma.
I have a grand stashed away-
Do I use it for its intended purpose i.e.-xmas presents...
Or do I tell the weans that Santa is dead and blow the lot on Celtic shares ?
Yashin- you even commenting on the people who so openly covet the position of 1st post and that babe from Star Trek
just gives them the credence that they so obviously desire.....
:P
noel.
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Paul67
Long time lurcker and admirer. Can't wait to get home and listen to audio.
I hope this will become a long term communication channel for the club.
I wonder how many hacks have been surfing in today.
J
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Paul
Can I raise a delicate issue? (Keep the heid - it's got nothing to do with religion!)
As you take CQN onto a new level, we need to consider how you will be able to continue to manage the site as well as you do. I know little about you but I assume you have a career and you've said you have a young family. Where will youi find the time? And then there are the costs involved.
You have never even hinted at payment but isn't there some sort of facility nowadays which would allow those of us who might want to to make occasional donations to help meet the costs of maintaining and developing the site? Have you dismissed the idea of attracting even limited advertising?
You regulate the site really well and you are the ideal person to continue to do so but is there anything we could do to help spread the load?
Finally, the best complement I can pay you is to say that I am really happy for 'outsiders' to view CQN as it gives a really positive message about what it means to us all to be part of the Celtic family. Yes, we argue and sometimes fall out but we generally do so intelligently and without descnding to abuse and vulgarity. FollowFollow, on the other hand, brings shame to Glasgow and the Country.
Paul, you are achieving great things on our behalf but you need to shout if there's anything we can do to share the load.
Here's to the future of CQN and the Celts!!
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Good day all round for MR Quinn then - first audio blog on CQN (well done P67) and the following from today's FT after the abandonment of the BCCI trial:
"Brian Quinn, another former head of banking supervision, had preceded Mr Cooke into the witness-box in July, and was the only other person to have given evidence in the case.
The judge told Mr Cooke: “My consideration of Mr Quinn’s evidence and of your evidence have left me in no doubt that the very serious allegations of impropriety and dishonesty against you are wholly without foundation.” "
When you see him again Paul - tell him "Minesastella" :-0
Yashin 12.26 - well said.
Lawlerm - seen some of your posts elsewhere. Not sure why you post here, because you have nothing to add to the debate. Get lost!
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Paul67
Couple of issues with the story, possibly more interesting regarding the points it didn't talk about:
1) Phonegate
2) PL's expanded role now MON is out of the picture.
3) Continued poor service
4) Post Seville hiatus
5) Share issue structure
6) DD's rant
7) Training ground particulars: Sale and leaseback?
8) CP upgrading: Internally / externally / surrounds?
Arena / new road, will these make a difference?
How will the club make the most of these opportunities?
9) Football budget: £20mill in "Total football costs" in 2006/07?
10) Greater "Charity" element: £5mill pa by 2010?
11) Growth Strategy
12) Five year plan: Do we have one?
13) MG: £790mill mug or visionary?
14) Best place for the club: EPL, Atlantic League or "Big" Euro "Sat" league?
Consequently good start but I think we need to know more.
What are we doing to maximise our ordinary share price in 2007?
The DD questions won't go away.
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Am hearing rumours of 1pm press meeting at Mordor with Hiztlar sorry Hitzfield lined up...
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Long time reader/viewer not having posted on this blog before as busy with own site www.dubaihoops.com but some free time now that Ramadan has finished and we are enjoying Eid Al Fitr, and the accompanying long weekend. Anyway, fellow Celts of whatever persuasion or none, greatly impressed by the level of debate and free flow of ideas on CQN. Want to say that the support for (the currently struggling) St Pauli discussed here; have spent many happy hours in their company from time to time, and intend that their cause will be taken up by our local CSC and a collection raised at our forthcoming function on 10th November where Charlie and the Bhoys will be playing and Macca and Tony Roper will be in attendance.
Have just read this back and it sounds like an advertising blurb………..not the intention……….although happy to highlight the Dubai Hoops CSC. Cheers and Hail Hail …………….TBM
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Noel90 - no offence..... but I think you might be one of the nonsense bloggers yashin is referring too!
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Paul,
Well done - changing the face of journalism in this country is a fantastic step forward - remember my wee story about changing the world! Great start. Its also testament to your patience and forebearance (rather than my, ahem, occassionally antagonistic approach).
I can't listen to the comments but will get back with some views tonight.
Mr Quinn - if you read this site regularly you will know I'm a critic - but well done to you on this initiative. This is a great step forward in engaging directly with the support. I will of course continue to question - but in gaining trust this is a massive leap forward. If we start to fully trust you then we can feel united probably for the first time I can remember.
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Excellent scoop Paul67, it's a yardstick of yours and all the contributors good work that you've been able to manage this. It certainly points the way to the club being able to communicate with the fans without Rory's spin.
I'm certainly encouraged by Mr Quinns comments, and would also back up his comments re- the 2001 share issue. I could be wrong but I think it was the tabloid press who said the money was for a new training facility and not as was intended, to further youth development. I think now we are beginning to see some of the rewards of our youth policy - U21/U19 league winners etc.
Good work!
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thepolarbear-
you really think so ?
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noel.
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no! I enjoy your inane ramblings immensely. \0/
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On the subject of football clubs being taken over, there's a half hour report on Radio 4 this evening entiltled "Billionaire Boys' Football Club". It may be of interest to some.
The preview says: "Foreign billionaires want to join one of sport's most select clubs: following in the footsteps of Abramovich, Al Fayed and Glazer by buying themselves a football club. It doesn't matter where you're from or how you made your money, all that's important is that you have lots and lots of it. From West Ham to Edinburgh, overseas investors want our clubs.
Simon Cox investigates why billionaires from Eastern Europe to the Far East have been queuing up to get their hands on a club, and how will it affect our national game".
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Minesastella:
If you'd like to actually dispute anything I said them i'm all ears.
If you have something to "add to the debate" then maybe that would be a better use of a post than dishing out orders to people you don't know?
And i've made a grand total of 3 posts (this one not included) in the last 3 weeks. If you don't like them then don't read them.
Just a thought...
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Paul67:
You sly devil,and more to come i would think.
I listened to the audio and the first thing that struck me was BQs willingness to let it all hang out.
I congratulate you on your scoop and look forward to more dialogue with the board ,DD include in the future.
Now what about news from accross the city!
Well done old son.
JonG
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Mr 67,
I doff my cap. Haven't listened to the audiocasts yet (probably not a good idea in work!) but will be download to the iPod tonight, for listening use later.
The text, however, is very informative. Excellent to see that he has taken the opportunity you have presented to communicate directly with the fans, with no spin being added by the press.
Now we must ask: Are you the "Citizen Kane" of the Blogging world? Keep up the excellent work.
Yashin (12:26) - it is these diverse subjects that make this site what it is. Thanks to CQN, I now understand the "A" word, have dabbled with Chomsky and considered the merits of Jeri Ryan and Karren Brady. Accept us for what we are - the CQN movement (sorry Mr Quinn!!)
G
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Does anyone know where I could download a copy of the new share prospectus (pdf)? I've had a look over at the official site but can't see it anywhere.
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http://www.celticfc.co.uk/corporate/rissue/agree.aspx
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Hi Paul67
I appreciate your efforts at keeping us up to date no more so than todays thread.
What puzzles me is if the watchword is not prudent then what is it.Youth academies only produce a few capable of holding down 1st team places at any one time,the EPl still is a pipedream but I have to agree those who can who are fans should take up their new share allocations.I bought when Fergus took over and will subscribe to this issue.I dont want to see Celtic fans in denial as Man U's were standing outside their stadium with placards saying Man U are not for sale when in effect the deal was done.
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Having read it all for a second time, is there any chance that we could have a more regular update from the board hosted by this site? I'd like to think we've got a good mix of posters, and I know loads of Celtic fans who read it daily but don't post. I think it's an excellent opportunity for the board. More of this kind of thing, which can't be diluted or misinterpreted by the media, is what we need.
Yashin, I think the humour on the site adds to the enjoyment rather than detracting from it. I would however agree with you if you were focusing on some of the off topic chat such as last night's religious debate.
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Paul,
Great stuff and possibly pretty timely, moving the blog up a gear and stamping a bit of real quality on it. Hopefully we as contributors will follow the lead.
I can't help feeling this is the way forward for many, many supporters - independent non-lazy journalism with no agenda other than the truth, understanding and progression for Celtic that we just can't get from traditional sources. Involvement from CQN contributors would be a good next step.
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So-did he mention whether Henke was coming back or not? ;-)
Listened to all of the audio-spoiled with my own office!-as madmitch points out not all of the questions are answered but perhaps the most significant thing is the willingness to bypass the normal media and do this.
Well done Paul. Dawning of a new blog age.
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Well done on the BQ interview Paul, just listened to it and was fairly encouraged by the whole thing. I feel we ARE in good hands and that the 'people in high places' do have Celtics best interests at heart. PR still needs to improve though. More interviews like this would greatly enhance this cracker of a site.
On Sunday I think we really have to pay close attention to Russell 'Bob Marley' Latapy. The past twice he has been given too much space resulting in him creating chances for himself and others. Close him down from the start and hopefully Falkirk wont pose too much of a threat.
Yashin
I agree with you, it is sad. But lighten up eh. I didnt get any particular thrill from having the first post, I did it due to the sacred '1st Post' being mentioned on so many previous posts and thought I would mention it when I realised no one else had posted on this topic. Did I detect some sour grapes from Noel perhaps?
Keep the Faith
Bhoy O'Bhoy
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Thanks Lawlerm!
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Paul - well done on convincing Brian Quinn to take the time to do the CQN interview. It says a lot about yourself & the nature of the site that he was willing to answer your questions
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Must say I think all this talk of 'we were promised a youth academy years ago' is a red herring. What would you rather have? Barrowfield, Maloney, Marshall, Beattie, Wallace, McManus, McGeady or Murray Park, Burke and Hutton? Bricks and mortar you can get any day. The right people and the right set up is much more difficult to achieve.
Hats off to Mr Quinn for giving the interview in the first place. He always comes across as a thoroughly decent chap in my opinion.
Mad Mitch, I usually totally ignore your posts but read yours today. I will be ignoring them again from now on. You need to get out more.
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Great wee scoop.
I'm slightly worried about the 'watching brief' aspect - this suggests that we have no influence on events, but then again, I suppose there's not much more we can do at this stage.
The problem for me is that Celtic are now asking us to cough up for more shares - an emotional investment.
Well I have shares, and a season ticket, merchandise et al, and I can't help feeling a bit of a dupe to reach for the chequebook again. Does purchasing 2 lots of shares give any more emotional satisfaction than buying one ?
By the way, BQ hardly takes any money ( relative to his responsibility ) out of Celtic personally, and he deserves great credit for this.
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On a totally different topic and completely from left field.....
We've had a few chats about the loss of Majic and Beats and their undoubted pace from our forward line in the coming weeks and a worry about going with a Sutton & Hartson partnership.
We do have a very pacy player on the bench who was a successful striker at Hibs when we signed him. Of course, we used him as a wing back and then as a full back.
Any thoughts on trying him out for half an hour at least against Falkirk?
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Paul67: What a coup! How many red tops will attempt to copy this in their sad excuses of a newspaper. Have not listened to the Audio yet can't wait to get home.
On a more serious note did he know the words to the CQN Mantra???:)
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Paul
Excellent work, straight from the horses mouth with no biased intepretation.
I like the copyright stamp at the end of the article, i wonder if you will recieve a few requests from "journalists" to reproduce. Why not allow the interview to be be reproduced by Mr Spiers or another impartial journalist (not many to choose from), and let this be communicated to the punters who dont visit your website. This would achieve 3 things.
1. The inormation being presented to all celtic fans (who buy the right newspaper)
2. Seriously peev off the tabloids.
3. Strike a wee blow to Mr Murray.
Well done and look forward to the posts over the coming days. Should be interesting.
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Martinobhoy
I see where your coming from and would defintely offer something different, but his lack of shooting prowess and inabilty to header a ball effectively counts him out. Id rather go for McGeady or Maloney with one of the big men...
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Paul, Congratulations,a real scoop,looking forward to reading and listening to more. Well said Negative Anon,hope this article makes you feel more positive.
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Paul – thanks for the latest offering. CQN at the leading edge – fantastic stuff.
On the new training facility: I think the new academy is a fantastic move - with its main benefit being in attracting quality players and giving the senior teams a quality-training environment, which can only be good for the club. I’m sure it will enhance the whole youth development programme, although comparing the track records of Celtic and Rangers over the last few years shows just how wrong it is to think that quality bricks and mortar will guarantee youth success.
On this point it could be argued that the Rangers facility has become a bit of a white elephant in youth terms – and maybe this is why they went down the road of structuring a separate company to “own” youth players contracts and therefore get a sell on value for those that can be punted to other clubs when Rangers choose to let their contracts run down.
The more you convert youth players into valuable first team players, the less of a white elephant the cost of the youth academy bricks and mortar becomes, and I’d suggest that on recent form, we have a lot to be confident of.
However, there will always be significant youth drop out rates and I just wonder if BQ , PL etc have given thought to the need for Celtic to get some return from the players who will have benefited in our investment in the new academy, but will inevitably go on to get a professional career at a level outwith the Celtic set up?
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Cheers Michael_67
It was just a thought. My thinking was that Didier pushing on would push defenders back and leave space for Naka, Stan and Shaun.
My preference would be Shaun up front and Pearson, Wallace or McGeady taking his place on the left.
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what does BQ mean by another "source" sky...?
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Lawlerm - the posts were elsewhere, but most were a personal attack on Paul67 - I'm sure most were a criticism of the EPL debate.
Like everyone else, you have a right to an opinion, but I would suggest that the comments made elsewhere were just about undermining this blog. I've also criticised where I see fit, but have done so here.
Posting elsewhere about this site is a cheap shot. Regurgitating them, though, won't add to what is, normally, a grown-up debate.
That is all!
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Excellent stuff
I thought that Mr Quinn seemed a lot more relaxed in this interview than he normally appears on screen where I believe he often seems pressured.
Personally I think that unless we have a striker in the reserves waiting for his chance against tfod, we have no real options up front other than the two big fellas or one and Shaun.
Maloney and Sutton might allow Thompson a chance of redemption as he normally plays a big part in any old firm match, unfortunately though sometimes to our disadvantage.
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In today's Herald Steven Thompson has also let slip the SPL's masterplan for getting Rangers back into the title race. While the rest of us get three points for a win it looks like Rangers will be getting slightly more.....
Yesterday, Steven Thompson, a scoring hero for Rangers in Bratislava, said he believed the club could recover domestically and reach the Champions League's last 16.
"We are 10 points behind in the SPL," said Thompson. "I certainly believe it is retrievable. It's just three wins, basically."
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Paul, very interesting article and lots of food for thought. Hats off to BQ for agreeing to talk to you.
Do you plan to leave the interview in bits or will you put the whole thing on the blog at some point? I assume there's a lot more we didn't hear - including your dulcet tones asking the actual questions.
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Paul67...
You've upped the ante regarding CQN. Well played! I doubt if any other club has a resource as well managed or delivered as this. Which is why I imagine Mr Quinn gave you the interview!
It's also nice from the point of view that Celtic finally are ackowledging the support and actually engaging with us in a thoughtful and inventive way. It's been said often that PR has been Celtic's achilles heel, I hope this is the first tentative step toward fixing that problem. I also hope that word continues to filter through to our support that the general media pursue an anti Celtic agenda.
i hope this is the first interview of many, and I hope you would take an adversarial role when interviewing - Hard questions need to be asked from time to time, and if the board have the mettle, they will be able to provide us with answers that are confidence inspiring. Maybe answers we don't want to hear, but coherant and forward thinking none the less.
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Well done Paul, and Mr Quinn.
Communication is the name of the game, and it is good to hear, straight from the top, the answers to some of the questions that have been asked on this unque forum. It's quite clear it is required reading at boardroom level.
I believe this share issue can mark the dawn of a new era for our movement, coming as it does just as the pain of the post-MON transition has begun to be dissipated by the sight of our beloved club at the top of the SPL and playing an exciting brand of football that bodes well for our reintegration into the Champions League arena next year. And also as a new generation of talented, home-bred youngsters are about to force their way into the first team squad.
I am intrigued by the mention of "other sources" in the EPL discussion, and also Mr Quinn's pointed reminder to that league's breakaway origins 13 years ago. Melt, pack ice, melt!
Paul, you will of course, face allegations from some of being too close to the board for objective analysis. Just as well you have all of us to keep you right. ;-)
Once again, well done.
(http://celticfcblog.blogspot.com)
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DessyBhoy the watchword is no longer 'Prudent' but 'SUSTAINABILITY'.
Good news for us. It means that, in future if we can afford to spend say £10M, then there is no need to be prudent and we will.
Cynics out there, of which I would include myself, will say but its the same thing and technically it is..... but it leaves the door open for us to question the level of spend more. 'Prudence' is a much more open and shut case!
TBE
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Excellent post ……..and the audio stuff is first class………
I noticed you have received a lot more replies………..
Than I did on my…… SERIOUS…. Post…………….
on the previous blog…………………… 75 to date…………and rising…….
Where I received ……………………0.………….
So I an now retiring from the serious stuff…………..
And returning to being the Blog Jester.
Bhoy O'Bhoy…………………………..
Don’t blame me………………it was Noel…………
bigjoewhojustwant2beAkid
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Paul67 well done to you but more importantly to BQ and all at Celtic for seeing this as a way to communicate to the fans in new innovative ways.
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Many thanks for all your encouraging words, I really appreciate it.
I would also like to thank Brian Quinn for spending time with me very early on Tuesday morning.
From listening to him reminisce about supporting Celtic, it is clear that he absolutely, madly, rabidly welded to our club. He is also a valuable pair of eyes on what is happening at Celtic.
Martybhoy, part two will be more a look at the share issue, and will not now happen next week (big game on).
TBE, I like to think I have come up with the odd exclusive in my day, but this is the first actual interview.
Welcome jsm69.
God bless you timgreen, oops, don’t want to start the religion thing again.
I asked for views on how to support the site during the summer. I don’t thing advertising will work. It will either generate too little money to make a difference, or so much that it will get me looking for transfer speculation stories.
Some bloggers use a PayPal tip jar system, see Martin at The Copydesk (Martin is my ultimate guide on all things web, and was the person who edited the audio for me - thank you Martin).
I have not gone down this route, as I get enough crap from people when I am not making any money out of it, can you imagine what I would get for my £15 per month if I started earning?
I have actually cut the I put in hours this season and have been trying to treat Mrs67 more often to win CQN points.
The real payback, is to win control of the media agenda for Celtic fans.
Madmitch, I kept away from subjects that get covered everywhere else, such as phonegate and the DD interview. BQ would have his answer ready if I had asked anything on this and I wanted to keep a tight focus.
He said we have a rolling 5 year plan.
Welcome TheBarcaMole
Neg Anon
Thanks for your supportive comments. Lets revert to tribal form this month and change the world next month.
MichaelC
I would be happy to give free permission for other media outlets to use this material. I want to promote the as well as the message, so would like reference made to the site.
Scotcelt56, this was my first recorded interview which was not smooth enough to leave as an ‘open tape’. Will improve next time.
P8ddy, I think Mr Q believes he had the odd hard question. You try telling him there is a management vacuum and get ready for the reply.
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With both Beattie and Magic missing what are WGS options.
Beattie is certainly out of contention for both games against Rangers and the one against Falkirk.
Magic could be back for one of the Rangers games but how match fit could he be.
Thompson is back and could slide into the left midfield slot with Maloney playing up front with either Hartson or Sutton.
Sutton could fall back into the centre of midfield with Nakamura going left and Petrov playing on the right.
He could stick with Sutton and Hartson up front and slot thompson in on the left or indeed Maloney.
They are the options that immediately spring to mind.
Does this however open the door for one of the younger lads to get a place on the bench?. Maybe someone with a handle on the reserves situation would be able to say more on which lad ( a striker} would be best placed.
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Paul67 - congratulations, watershed moment (& blip-free Go Live to boot). The early reactions say it all - this is an invaluable way for the Celtic leadership to build trust with fans. We all know relationships are built on trust. Compliments also to Mr Quinn - when can we expect to see/hear him (& a guest or two) again?
So, the multi-sensory CQN experience edges ever closer. Perhaps you could provide different flavour 'skins' for those with a more vivd imagination? Oh and any progress on inserting a clickable 'scratch 'n sniff' radio button? What aromas would match the interviewees I wonder?
12:42 PM, timgreen - agree wholeheartedly.
I agree with many posters ref upcoming Rangers games. Given our unfortunate loss of pace & trickery in attack I think Rangers will feel able to push on to Telfer & Camara, preventing them joining the midfield & thereby preventing Nakamura & Maloney from peeling away into the inside forward channels. They will allow Bobo unlimited possession & will happily hold a defensive line 30 yards from their own goal. If we are feeling adventurous perhaps we could surprise them a little, a 5 man midfield with Nakamura (exhausted from his travels & so relieved of any defensive duties) playing a free role & Petrov getting more attacking licence. We then only play with 1 recognised front man - that will present the Rangers back four with a real dilemma.
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On the subject of buying my shares....
I phoned for my prospectus ( or whatever you call it )
And without wanting 2 sound Neanderthal…………………
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What is the best way for someone like me who does not have shares to buy shares in the new share issue?
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what would mrsbigjoe think...
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Paul,
congratulations. The use of audio was more than a fancy wee techy add-on. It added substance and credibility to the piece. It gives supporters a little more information on which to base their opinions on the Chairman.
I despair at the mentality of some of our supporters. Some of them still spend their lives in Father Jack mode....'sack the board...boo the suits...gie him the money...' This type of article could be used to slowly begin a process of enlightenment. Members of other message boards should be encouraged to listen to it and read it.
Sustainability....I'm all for that. Over the next few months, Celtic supporters need to engage in the discussion as to what that will mean. The red tops will say we are a selling club now. We need to understand that the manager will want a degree of stability in his side, and any buying and selling must be done to the old adage...buy low, sell high.
I don't think this means buying players with resale in mind. rangers did that 3 or 4 times this summer and are paying the price. What it does mean is much better contract management, and fans need to understand this: a player who insists on 40k a week will be sold .
Final point on the Chairman. He gave Paul the interview, and that in large part, is a reflection on Paul. We should be proud of him. HOWEVER if Paul wrote articles that no-one responded to, we wouldn't be here. The success of this blog has been built on the quality of the discussion.
Moral of the story...if we want more interviews like this one, we need to keep the quality up. Last night won't help.
Paul, well done, and thanks for doing this for us.
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Paul67 - apparently you are only worth $10,726.26
Undervalued I'm sure!
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Bhoy O bhoy-
I must apologise for my bad manners.
You have my heart felt congratulations on getting the 1st post after the 1st webcast.
Just think - in 50 years time-
when our grandchildren are scrolling through the annals of CQN
looking for the 1st webcast-
yours WILL be the name they see 1st.
So no sour grapes.....
just a wee bit of envy.
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no worries noel90 - we'll all be gone soon anyway! all these computers need energy!!
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Well Done Paul
You have audio and i struggle to get myself on newsnow!!!!!!
Nice that BQ gave you the time any others in the pipeline?
only want to know so we get in there 1st!!!!!
only kidding
Polar Bear ur not barred u know...
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my old man was a bison / polar cross breed!
as for my mother....... dont ask.
LOTW
Just got some business to attend. Will see you first thing in the morning.
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Just looked at my profile and noticed 32 others had viewed it! I was feeling most impressed till I checked the next 2 - Big Joe had 96 and Noel 512! Oh well, I suppose it's not a popularity contest (and if it was I'd be gubbed!).
I know we're all looking on to the Old Firm game, but we shouldn't forget about Saturday. We need to beat Falkirk first. A wee slip up from the Gers and Heart of Madlithuanian and we'll be in great shape for the double header! Well, we would be if we had some pace up front! Huge blow last night with Beattie being ruled out (a phrase not many would have expected to use at the start of the season!). I'd bring in Pearo or McGeady for Maloney and play him up front with Sutton. I don't want Thommo reinstated, although he's prone to scoring against them, he's also equally good at getting sent off!
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First of all Paul, excellent article.Really well done.
To get an interview with someone of Mr Quinn's stature within the club is a just reward for all the hard work you have put in satisfying this bunch.
Mr Quinn is obviously very pleased that Celtic have the correct structure 'on board' to lead Celtic in to the future.
With his retirement date coming up does he plan to stay a little bit longer to oversee the goings on at the club?
After all we are in a transistional period and not just on the field.
It is also encouraging to see that they are keeping an eye on the English Premiership and the slow detraction of intrest that is in danger of suffocating the finances that fund the league.
''the pack ice seems to me to show signs of breaking up.''
Again I can only agree with this comment but to have an astute business figure such as Mr Quinn making this statement, is certainly more promising that just me thinking it.
Finally the share issue. I for one am definetly no financial whizzkid but I'll see what I can muster up to increase the 'emotional bond' that Celtic and myself share.
I would also advice any body else that can afford to, to put a little bit more in to our club, to help move the 'Celtic movement' along nicely.
Exciting times await us.
Sean
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Noel
Does that mean I am now some sort of living legend to be? Jeezo, I have never had such fame before.
Thinking about bringing out a range of merchandise soon if you are interested?
All the best
Bhoy O'Bhoy
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How does one update/add info to a blog profile (and if someone points me to an obvious button that says "update blog profile" I shall scream)?
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Found it - didn't think of logging in to my own profile!
I think that's called a senior moment.
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scotcelt56 - if it's easy, then I'm back on the daft stuff! I've done it, but can't remember how!
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And I just had a stella moment (Doh!)
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minesastella; thanks anyway. I think I've been in the IT industry too long - come back mainframes and dumb screens.
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Paul
Like many here today I extend my congratulations - very good article - roll on part 2.
I think it is only fair that we also acknowledge Mr Quinn's part as well. At the AGM a month ago he admitted that the club should do better in its communication with the fans.
If this is a first step in addressing that previous poor communication then it is a good one and I hope many more will follow.
It would be nice to hear further audio commentaries on big issues and hearing from PL, DD and WGS on a range of subjects would be excellent.
The new watchword is sustainability - that is excellent news now we need to hope that the robust and re-energised structure spoken of can deliver that sustainability and if so we will only go from strength to strength.
Thanks again Paul and by extension everyone who regularly spens time here for creating something that the top brass at CP feel comfortable communicating through.
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Rossio
I would rather you hadn't mentioned about the number of hits on your blog as I have now just checked mine and I am sitting at a very lonely and low 16! very sad.
Anywho! Just wanted to mention that recently (albeit not in the last game) it seems to me that the strikers - whether deliberatly or not - are playing more of a "holding striker" role - as far as I am aware this is unique to Celtic as I have never seen this before. We seem to have quite a bit of shooting talent from the midfield area and we are really utilisign that.
Having players like Sutton (who is the best holder of the ball I have seen) performing this role while the likes of Petrov and Maloney attack the goal has really made a huge difference to the shape of the team.
VERY entertaining football being played at the moment and looking forward to that continuing to the Falkirk game. Will worry about the rangers game on Monday!
BhoyLondon
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Paul67 congratulations on your article.
Firstly on the quality of your writing and the integrity of your journalism. A true landmark when it comes to communication from the Celtic board.
Which brings me nicely to my next question and something that we all should be aware off.
Was BQ kind enough to give you an interview on the basis of CQN (i.e that he has some prior knowledge of this blog ) or were you on a roster of so many journalists in a bid to advertise further the recently announced share issue ?
I am not trying to be negative here or diminish your commendable achievement in any way but the answer to this question will illustrate any possible changes in how Celtic plc communicates with its "movement" and highlights the very apparent failings in its present setup.
I think its important that our obvious love and devotion to all things Celtic does not compromise our journalistic integrity.After all the basis of CQN is "Celtic News not lazy journalism"
When you get the DD interview nex month can I hold your recorder for you. I will not interrupt in anyway but just cough at the right moments. :-)
Hail Hail and well done BQ and Paul67
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Excellent work. Interesting article Paul, hopefully the 1st of many 'exclusive scoops!'.(TM-Guidi, Sunday Wail). I'm sure you would love to follow it up with a one-to-one with DD?
This has been touched upon before on this site, I know that the majority of bloggers would agree that the communication of the board to the ordinary (big) 'joes' leaves a helluva lot to be desired. his is a small step in the right direction. Full credit also to Mr Quinn for taking the time to talk to someone other than the View. OK, there are many questions to be asked, but sadly not enough hours in the day.
As I say hopefully this is the beginning of a whole new era of speaking with the Hoops faithful, as opposed to speaking AT them.
I know we have to take care of Yogi's boys 1st, but I am slightly less confident with the news on young Beatts. Tough luck on the lad-just as he is getting a run of 1st team action this happens. The solution has to be wee Shaun and either of the battering rams up front. Unfortunately, there won't be much in the way of a plan B with no pacy strikers to come off the bench. Dilemnas, dilemnas! WGS, it's time to earn your spurs.
This promises to be a truly historical and joyous weekend. Hopefully there may be a squad member or 22 attending on Saturday(what's the betting on Lenny being there?)and they will take note, if they don't already know, of what this wonderful club means to so many people everywhere. This should inspire them to go to shiny new brockville or whatever it's called and battle to a victory to set us up nicely for the double header against TFOD. Bring it on.
You heathens and infidels! You'd think this was a football site or something!
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kojo - any good tidings to share with the CQN movement?
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What is going on with the game against Feck's lot? I see we're now selling the tickets on a first come first serve basis in the Celtic Shops!
I received a text yesterday offering me additional tickets and my mate went along to Celtic Park and picked up two!
Why the apathy - is it because of the mediocre opposition?
Ps BhoyLondon - 32 when I looked!
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from the Offical site:
CELTIC vs RANGERS
CIS Cup Quarter-Final,
Wednesday 9th November, 2005,
Celtic Park, 7:45pm KO
Tickets for the forthcoming Old Firm CIS Cup clash are now on sale in all Scottish Celtic shops.
The remaining tickets for this match are to be sold on a first come, first served basis and only to those supporters who are registered on the Celtic database. They will be priced at £28 & £25 restricted view.
Tickets can also be purchased at the Ticket Office Counter (open 10am-4pm), by calling the Home Ticket Booking Line on 0870 060 1888 or through the Ticket Office section of this website.
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It was totally predictable that the rags would react to the news of the shares issue with the old 'Board with begging bowl' imagery. Logical response from Mr Quinn of, "Its a free market. No-one is forcing anyone to buy anything."
The only reason the hun press (and keevins) are going down this route is because they know that the shares issue will be a resounding success and that DD will not even have to underwrite the full 10M he has pledged, unlike a certain other share issue which was launched across the city.
'Loyal' indeed, anyone?
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Bhoylondon-
A"holding striker"-very good description of big Sutton-
but the best I,ve ever seen in that role was Kenny Dalglish.
Kenny was often described as having "the biggest arse" in football.
When he had possession and was waiting for support,Kenny would simply turn his back and stick out his rear end. Opponents could not get at the ball with out commiting a foul.
I would like to think that some of our up and coming youngsters have watched videos of the man in action-Maloney,McGeady and Pearson
could still all learn from King Kenny.(as a player-not as a manager....)
noel.
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Paul,
I can only reiterate what has already been said. Excellent initiative.
Great to hear again BQ talk about Celtic from the point of view of a fan, which he clear is. Having said that he seems to take his role very seriously and has Celtic long term interest at heart.
The one thing I that did disappoint me was his dicussion of joining the EPL. I would love for this to happen but his talk was not that of a man who thought it was just round the corner. He says we have a 'close watching brief'. Not sure what that means but does not sound like it is ongoing discussions with a view to making it happen. More like watching and waiting to get in there if the chance came along. Here's hoping....
To be honest I think we need to hope for Man Utd failing for a year or so and them needing big changes to keep Glazier's debt down. Arsenal will only go from strenth to strength now they have the new stadium and Chelsea need nobody. Anyone know the state of Liverpool's debt?
Again great extension of an already must read blog.
Cheers
Jama
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Paul
Would just like to add my congratulations to everyone else's.
Pretty sure it was something of a release for Brian Quinn to be able devote himself to giving direct answers to questions without having to concentrate more on how the interviewer would spin his report.
Let's hope he completes the circle and reads today's blog. That should dispel any remaining reservations he may have had.The very positive and welcoming reactions, the immediate lift in feel-good factor must be to the benefit of all.
Hopefully on the way to greater exchange of information and opinions and the end of distrust, but necessarily disagreement on some issues.
Alex
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EPL is highly unlikely in the short to medium term, talk about jumping ship when it st(hearts) to get interesting again!
I would however advocate the amalgamation of the 2 league cups as a means of providing a boost to two flagging competitions with the winner taking the UEFA cup place to their League (assuming we have won the league and are donating the place to say, rangers ;-)
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Am I the only one who feels the shares could be marketed a bit better ?
There's something anti-climactic about getting a droopy wee certificate through the post, and I just wondered if the marketing men could package the shareholder thing a bit better ( i.e. you also get your name on a seat / or an exclusive shareholders tie / or some such )
Ok, I realise this is a bit childish in the Grown Up World of shares, but I'm not in it as a financial speculator. I'm in it to show my commitment. When I'm an old git driving my hoverchair to Paradise in the future, I'll want to wear my shareholders tie and point up at the wee plaque on the wall with my name on it....
In the meantime I'm away back to the Junior View pages....
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I check my profile every day………………
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Sir Paul,
Just digested the Appetizer....
There will be more to come...
Now that you have had a personal Tete a Tete with the Man, I am sure that it has only Endorsed the Very High Regard for the Man,You and the Boss, have Promulgated... and on this very site!
His intelligence shines thro', in every nuance..and the use of his carefully couched observations, is the mark of a very competent individual.
My discussion a few days ago, with the FOUR AMIGOS,alerted me in no Uncertain Terms to this fact......
Paul.......you and your Blessed Blog are being watched, with mounting interest, by the Movers and Shakers that steer the Celtic
Juggernaut.
My opinion, if it counts for anything.........
Your Blog is the Perfect Petrie Dish, for obtaining a Concentrated Collection, of the Unrepresented, until, now...... Desires and Wishes of the Celtic Fans.
Your Interview was an indication,of the Intent by the Board,to be more forthcoming in their communication to Celtica Fandom!
He really did not say anything that was of a surprising nature...... We were aware of all of the Information that he divulged,already........
However, It makes more of an impact,if the Same Information, that You have been providing over the last Year, is Propounded by the Fountainhead.
The Doff of the Legendary Fedora has been exercised.....Vigorously.....in respect to your Very Professional and Informative Interview.
Paul,me lad........
Ya done GOOD!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Hi Paul,
Firstly congratulations are due on your latest article, from an outlet for personal views to an interview with one of the powerbrokers, acorns to oaks in action and a fair reward for your time and effort. As always with your financial articles, although Celtic specific, there are broader implications for football in general and hearing it from the horses mouth gives you a lt more to mull on than tabloid speculation. Well done.
Arranmore 1.33 :- A good point, money doesn't give success when the right players aren't there, but to be fair shouldn't Mr Beattie be listed on the list of Murray Park graduates rather than the Barrowfield ones :) and I cede in advance that it was at C.P his professional career was advanced to his present level.
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BigJoe - Just click on your name
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To all the pseudo intellectuals out there....
Spare a wee thought for less sharp folk in our society like this.
or this.
orthis
Thanks to the bhoys at jinkys oars
noel.
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Cheers Noel,
I have just about wiped away the tears from my eyes at the sight of big feck as Stan Laurel. What would have made it doubly funny would have been if they used BFDJ as Ollie!
That image wouldn't have required any doctoring whatsoever!
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Jamiebhoy-your welcome.
I did borrow them from Jinkys Oars.
Big Joe- if you click on my profile
then click on my blog name-it will take you into a madhouse but if you then click on comments you will see supercelts instructions on image hosting.
good luck.
noel.
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My dear old buddy, Vargas Shampoo,
I just noticed your insertion of today.
My,my......Mabel just mentioned that your presence on this Hallowed Haven....Goes way, way back to the Dimness of 2004!
She just adores your Sobriquet...
It reminds her of her Heyday in Ole Las Vegas, where she trod the boards, as a member of the Fabulous Follies Bergere!
Ah! Halcyon Days, indeed.
However......Back to Maverick!
Yes, my friend........ As Paul and the Boss have said......
We are leaving the S.P.L.
The only "T" that remains uncrossed
is.... When....No "T" in when?...... mmmmm!
The Quintessential Chairman of the Board.......The Redoubtable Mr. Quinn.. played his cards.....very close to his vest...during the informative interview, obtained by our very ENTERPRISING...Sir Paul.
However........
To the Cognoscenti..........
We are leaving, Yes we are, No longer will it be ....
"Goan doon the Watter....for the Fair!"
Lisbon, Milano, Berlin.....
Those will be our choices of Cities...where we shall be enjoying our Soccer Sojourns, watching our Beloved Celtic.
Time will tell.........
Patience, Mes Enfants!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Hi Paul,
Noel90@5.47 :-Normally your humour has both the wit and the timing spot on, this time shame on you, any decent Celtic man would have saved those pics for Wed morning when most of the readers of this site will be needing cheered up ;)
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Guys, a few weeks ago some of you mentioned some sites that some games could be seen ie japanese, asian or polish sites. The reason I ask is, on 19th november I am going to be tied up in hospital for something minor but will have purchased a laptop by then, could someone please forward any of these sites to my email address dgraham9@hotmail.com. Cheers guys,
Hail Hail
PS Some chance edward and i think you meant thursday morning when you lot are swallowing barrowloads of anti depressants
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Well done on the interview Paul, i always thought this step would only be a matter if time for CQN.
I see the propectus is only for UK & Ireland residents.
Big dissapointment for myself and a few others no doubt.
Anyone know why this is?
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Shelbourne1916 :- You are of course correct I meant to type either Wed night or Thurs morning lol, but I doubt if we will need the medical help as will have a cup full of good cheer to go on for :)
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Don,t kid yourself...
Plenty more up my sleeves...
Even to put a smile on your own(handsome?)coupon.....
I,m sure there,s a song in there somewhere but its not for me....
:P
noel.
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I think its important that we do not lose sight of our objective which is to see Celtic win the CL ten times in row. Ok realistically we want to be competing at 2nd phase CL football more or less every year.
Can this be done while we are an SPL team ? The answer to this question has to be yes. This is what we should be concentrating on now as this is the job we have in hand.
Not on any possible future entry into the EPL and certainly not with a cap or a begging bowl in hand.
If we are regularly playing at this level I believe that the EPL issue will be put into cold storage especially WHEN the monies dwindle within the EPL. We would grow massively as a club. The Seville experience has not been forgotten by non Celtic supporters throughout Europe and it could be even bigger. CL competition for example instead of UEFA and with a final say at the new Wembley playing against Barcelona!!! . How many Celtic fans in London that week ?
I hope that we get our own house in order and then become a very attractive proposition so that the beaks at the EPL come to us with cap in hand. In the meantime we can start to discuss and canvass Celtic opinion about a move away from Scotland while the powers at be at Celtic can smooth over the multitude of problems that such a move would bring about with the necessary bodies by presenting the facts to the "movement"
Should such a move be a board decision or should the "movement" decide?
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have just heard a caller on radio clyde ask guidi & keegan if there was any truth in the reason kloss was not being played was down to finances and that he would receive a considerable appearance sum when he played. You can guess what their reply was que...... the TFOD party line. Some things will never change
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awe_naw_no_annoni_oan_anaw_noo-
Winning the Champions League 10 times in a row might be beyond us -beyond abramovichs morons even.
Winning the Champions League next year ?- why not ?
Some rangers fan once told me that,in his opinion, it takes about 7 years to build a squad capable of winning The Big One.
Nope- Lisbon Lions-24 months tops.
Ajax 1995- 18 months
Man Utd 1999- two years since Beckham,Butt,Scholes and the Nevilles moved into the 1st team.
I know people get the impression that my green-tinted glasses are stuck on-
I think we are on the right road....
again.
noel.
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BigJoe-
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westcoastofScotlandwhereitnever
stopsrainingandthesunonlyshines
whenTheHoopsarewinninghail!hail!
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Paul,
Congratulations on the interview, real ground breaking stuff and a big step forward for the blog. This site is a great example of how the world of journalism is changing...and don't the traditional press just hate that sort of change.
With regard to the new share issue, it seems like £15 million is a lot to raise from Joe Punter (not you Big Joe...that's an awful lot of Rioja) particularly at this time of year.
In the original Fergus share issue, the shares were heavily marketed with cheap loans, stage payments, collectible share certificates (1888 and 1967 teams as background) and shareholder discounts as incentives.
However, we don't see much evidence of these sort of initiatives in this round of fund raising.
The possibilities seem to be...
1. The board are confident of a big response...why?
2. The board see anything above DD's guaranteed £10 Million as bunce.
3. There are already some "big" investors lined up (...yet again, I don't mean Big Joe).
Paul, do you have any insight as to which of the above is the real situation?
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When the idea of this share flotation was first aired earlier in the season,it was a well known fact{alledgedly} that DD had quite a few buddies lined up each prepared to fill in a million or so.
I do not expect DD to have to dig very deep on this occasion to top up to the 10 mil level.
Kojo:
Destinations!
I am a bit intrigued not by the destinations you refer to for our future ganes,but the mechanism which would catapult us onto that stage.
I may be wrong but i smell change in the wind and, someone on this site knows a little more than they are prepared to share at this time!
Bhoys the time is drawing near methinks.
My source......"Other sources".
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The Bald Ego 2.19
Of course the answer was in the audio link but I had no time to listen to these before I posted. Thanks anyway.So we will spend if we can afford to, got it now.
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Big Joe re the babe on the phone with regards the Celtic prospectus, we have a saying in our work ' nice on the phone add four stone'
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Congratulations Paul. The most important part of all of this is, like you say, claiming the media agenda for Celtic. This is a vital step in the right direction. Let's hope its the first of many. Who next, Dermot Desmond?
On the subject of Glazer and TV rights, I watched an interview with BQ on Celtic TV where he talked about the ice breaking and Celtic making representations to the European Commission. My question is, in the event of Celtic not making the EPL after the next TV contract what are the chances of Celtic going for their own TV rights within the SPL after the Setanta contract?
Would this be possible in a Bosman type way where Celtic get the full backing, legally if necessary, for individual TV rights without breaking up the SPL?
Anyone any ideas...
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bazza67-
cheers mate-I,ve just sprayed a mouthful of Stella all over my keyboard....:)))
noel.
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Noel. ………………………………...
Its Mrs Bigjoe who wants the holiday…………..
I am having ONE………………
She says she needs it…………………
Being married………. 2 me……………..
Not sure what she is on aboot………..
BigjoeWhoIslookingFor
aCelticbarInGranCanaria.
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Edward this is for you-
this
Do you fancythis bloke as your new manager ?
Or how about this lovely lassie? No?
I didn,t think so....
So if everybody leaves ibrox...
whose going to be left ?
him?
all credits to jinkys oars again.
noel.
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Bazza67.……………………………........
I’m naw joking……. M8.……………………..
She sounded…….2 die FOR…………..
After I gave her…………………..
My particulars…………………and its not what you lot are thinking……………..
She asked me if there was………………….
“anything else I can help you with sir”
I just aboot fell off mee seat………………..
Any way what I am saying is……….
Phone and YOURS prospectus or whatever its called.
ITS WORTH IT………………..
BigjoewhoHas1652prospectuses
inthepost.
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Paul, well done on a real scoop. You do us all a great service and I,for one, would happily contribute to your costs. I can't join the chorus of thanks to our chairman for agreeing to give us the benefit of his wisdom. It's his job to communicate with us. He shelters behind the protection of the restrictions placed on public companies but this won't do for me. We deserve better. However, I do welcome today's interview but don't ask me to tip the forelock. I'm interested in the composition of the board and BQ's desire to freshen it up. Maybe we could help him focus on one or two of these well remunerated 'Celtic supporters'. For starters, just what qualities has Eric Hagman brought to the corporate governance of our movement?
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Paul,
Some interesting stuff indeed, but I hope I don't sound sensationalist in suggesting that the event itself - a small but hugely symbolic step for the CQN alternative to the mainstream media - is of more significance than the content of BQ's interview.
This will be as much an experiment for him as it was you. Gain the trust and you may just find yourself being the release channel for a small exclusive in due course.
Georgie Niven was all at sea
He couldn’t stop McPhail
From making it 3
And then young Billy
Sure he made it 4
The Celts were heading for a record score.
We Sing…
Oh Hampden In The Sun,
Celtic 7 the Rangers 1,
All my days I will sing in praise
Of the CELTIC team
That played that day
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Paul67,
Have you heard any new with regards a player who has previously played for us returning to the club in January?
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Kojo, when you say that we are leaving Spl life for good do you mean to join the Premiership?
It's just that you seem to allude to a European based league.(ie Lisbon, Berlin, Milano)
Sean
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I really should know the answer to this but can I confirm that existing shareholders will automatically be sent the prospectus? Anyone know for definite.
P.S. For those worried about the cost with Christmas coming up. Kill two birds with one stone - buy the kids shares in their name as their present.
P.P.S. Does Edward (or it could be David Murray for all we know) get an invite to the next CQN away day?
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Paul67....well done in getting BQ to give the interview, lets hope it's the first of many from our directors and management.
Re the share issue..........when I came home from work I could hardly get in the door for this big white envelope......yes it came in today.......I hope you or someone else will be doing a thread for poor souls on how to fill it in.
I had a quick read thought it and what I take from it is.....the most you buy is £1,800 or you need to buy £3,600 £5,400. Why can't you just buy £2,000?
To many froms for me in it..:-)
PS,I know you can but from £150.00 onwards.
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Paul well done on an amazing article.
You truly have excelled yourself and established this site as not the best Celtic site on the web but the best football site.
How many other sites would get a audio commentary from the chairman of their club?
Not just any club. The greatest club in the world aswell.
Once again well done.
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Kojo, when you say that we are leaving Spl life for good do you mean to join the Premiership?
It's just that you seem to allude to a European based league.(ie Lisbon, Berlin, Milano)
Sean
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is it just my computer that wont open up or are we all stuck in a Q in the comments column ?
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Celtic Movement indeed.
Congrats to Paul and all at CQN for making this blog the force that it is.
Not wanting to seem too dewey eyed, but the feeling of being and belonging to something that feels inherently right is a fine thing indeed.
It seems, at laest to me, that football ownership is on the cusp of something new (and probably dangerous) so a reminder to get out there and vote with our hard earned's is no bad thing.
Yes, the Celtic Movement - Formed for the people, by the people to be run by the people stands out like a beacon in these days of champagne socialism and outright capitalist ownership of clubs. So let's not loose faith now and take the plunge - before it's too late.
Now where did I leave that biscuit tin......
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noel90......dont know what's up....the only way I can read this board the now is on the page you leave your comment....the main board will not refresh
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Brian Quinn speaks of how the youth set up has been expanded and of the number of coaches currently working, in the pursuit of excellence.
Is Tommy Burns still in charge of the youth set up and has he modelled it on the AJAX system, which i'm sure he visited in times gone by.
Noel:
Are you wearing your Darthovader mask on saturday or are you going like in the blog picture?
What!..What!!
Big Joe,why don't you look at Celtic bars on the web and scroll down till you find one in GC,i'm sure there is one!
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NOEL me too.
I think somebody's tryin' to stop you gettin that 50,000th comment!
Sean
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Tony 6:57
Celtic have done this before. They found that it was not cost-effective to do whatever needs doing to make the offer beyond these shores. Fergus did this when he sold up...and on this case he was guilty of treating some fans badly. The initial share offering was made in Canada and the US. At that time, he said that when he sold, those who participated in that initial offering would get first shot.
He reneged on that, as it would have cost a few thousand pounds extra. Given the buckets of money he left with, it wouldn't have hurt him to stick to his word.
I thought that was very poor form on his part. One of only 3 blemishes in an otherwise very fine flirtation with Celtic.
We can have a quiz sometime to unearth the other two::)
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Wasn't let down. Very impressed! Read (and listen) and weep Scottish meedja!
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Congratulations Paul, excellent work. Good to see all the effort on this site is beggining to open the doors it should.
Looking forward to more interviews with the people who count at celtic without the red top 'spin. Your hard work is very much appreciated.
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Noel90, I think we are. I've tried it on both my home PC and office laptop in case there was a problem with the laptop (not something you could ever accuse Ms Brady of!)
Neither works at the moment - although you can read posts on the "post a comment page". Wierd.
T
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Big Joe:
Just for you
Scruffy Murphys
Puerto Rico
GC
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Thank god for that!
I thought that BigP had blackballed me from CQN.
superceltwhoisnot
reallyparanoidbutsomeone
isouttogetme.
Noel, check your blog.
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now you tell me-
I,ve just spent a paranoid half hour hitting this thing with a mash hammer...i t i k its f c ed!
noel.
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JonG………………………..
Cheers M8.…………………………….
I am having IT problems 2night…….
Cant refresh the page or sommit
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
……………No that didn’t work ether……
bigjoestuckINcyberSpace.
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SUPERCELT-
PHONE PAUL !
noel.
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Cheers M8.……………………..
Scruffy Murphys ………..Puerto Rico
Coooooooooooooollllllllllll…….
Staying in Playa del Ingles
But I dont think its far……………..
The wife can DRIVE me
Supercelt………………………..
If any 1 is getting blackballed from CQN
It would be me……….or one of the other kids………
bigjoestillHavingITproblems.
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e mailed him already.
No response yet.
Maybe he is away big wigging it!
superceltwhoisonly
jokinganddisnnaewant
tobeblackballed.
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JonG……………………
OOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
We have broke the site……………….
Wee will all be blackballed now…….
I am going to blame you lot…………
BigjoewhoisInocent.
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Cupercelt…………………
Its 2 late we will be……………
kicked oooooot……………………
Outcasts in the cyberwilderness.
bigjoesaystime2openArioja
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bigjoe-
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nnnoooo
you have clogged the blog !
noel.
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cupercelt-are yousome relation to supercelt ?
you can see what is happening here-
all the sensible posters have given up and its the usual headcases who are going to take the rap...
I,m after you JonG...
noel.
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An interview with DD next mibees - in Barbados - with the attendant risk of bumping into Cliff Richard or Richard Branson - THE HORROR THE HORROR.
Greater love hath no man for his blog readers than that - 'self sacrifice' doesn't quite do it justice Paul.
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This is doing my nut.
Not only have been outcasted to cyber wilderness but i am out of beer and am resorting to cheap spirits imported from bigjoes current place of residence!
I say we all head over to this place for some hedonistic pleasure.
NOT THE DARK PLACE
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Pablooo, I decided to omit the Hearts situation, as there is still some conjecture over the end game, but I take your point.
Len Brennan, the “Celtic Movement” comment was excellent, I can see it taking hold.
Thanks Rossio, Michael 67, Brian74, Yashin.
Thank you – Shammy.
Cheers Phob, Rob71,
Noel90, “the horns of a dilemma”, I know what you mean.
Cheers Otto.
JonG, Mr BQ was very open – he took a wee risk or two.
Doffing right back at you giergiebhoy.
Cheers BlantyreKev, Exiledin, Bhyo O Bhoy.
VargasShampoo, remember to keep us informed.
Minx1888, did BQ sing:
Fourth in the SPL
Fourth in the SPL
Fourth in the SPL
Fourth in the S.P.L?
That is between me & he.
Thanks, Oldbhoy, it sure was good to hear Neg Anon is such form.
Thanks (again) Nominatim, JohnBhoy, BogJoe, Celticbhoy, Cubist Frank.
Weeron, I agree, the audio added a great deal to the article. I was really difficult to write to it – took me hours when I can usually fire this stuff off, but hearing directly from the man makes all the difference.
I agree, this is a big recognition of the CQN community.
Thepolarbear, you have been on The Copydesk (forgot how to do those links now).
Cheers lordofthewing, sean.zo’88.
Shamrock Diary, the club are trying to ‘reach out’ all right.
Awe Naw, you make an interesting point about ‘who decides if we go to England’. I am sure that if the invite came, the board would take around 3 seconds to decide, however, they need to find a way to consult with the ‘Celtic Movement’.
As far as why he gave me the interview? I didn’t ask, but he might have thought that I have been stalking him recently (which I haven’t been doing, it was just a coincidence).
Thanks jamiebhoy, Jama, Another Alex.
Kojo, the BQ intellect did strike me. He also has a memory that surprised me – but that is another story.
More to the point. He is at a stage in his career when he does not need the money, and can afford to speak his mind around the boardroom table.
Only the very poor, and the very secure can do this. The rest of us are compromised.
Thanks Edward. You are correct about the wider relevance of what was said. I got a lot of context information as well.
Hi Tony, good to hear from you.
Hampton Tim, journalism is changing as a result of the web, and there are bigger changes ahead. All the old business models are under threat.
I’ll cover the share issue specifically later, however, I don’t think the board are overly confident that they will be fully subscribed.
Thanks Lisburn Lions. You hit on an interesting point.
The EU interesting in the FAPL TV deal (sorry for all the ab’s) is only concerning the broadcasting side at the moment.
If Celtic challenged the SPL for their own TV rights through the EU, they would set a precedent for the English clubs to do the same.
Thanks Rubicon.
U2, “the event itself” is the talk of the stemmie in blog land.
No inFo No7.
Thanks Gerry, supercelt, rioskorrue, hoopy the round.
Sorry everyone, I think the audio has blown my bandwidth! I’ll away to see what I can do about it.
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Paul67 - Congratulations, a well deserved reward for the best Celtic site out there, and thanks to BQ for appearing.
Arranmore - I'm shocked you forgot to mention that paragon of Murray park, that future Scotland star, Boab (FTP)Malcolm (spit)
Big Joe - do you need a hand with that plastics factory (pun?)
Kojo - Do I detect a referance to a European league in your last post? C'mon open up, what's going on.
All - Nice to see the feel good factor is going strong, lets hope it's going to last straight through November, if it does change "feel good" to EUPHORIC !
Anyone got thoughts on McManus doing a man marking job on big Dado for these games, looks like if he doesn't play the other three or four (generous) don't either.
Edwardursus - nice try, but this is the Celtic family here, although I admire your efforts, (and honesty), refering to a Rankers victory in the diddy cup won't work.
Have you thought of converting?
Neg_Anon - Two positive posts in a row? There you are then, told you you'd enjoy the ride better.
KTF
Oregonbhoy
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Sorry that link Didn't work.
Noel you would have felt at home there.
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Big Joe
Where aboots in Playa Del Ingles you going to?
If you head to the 'Irish Centre' there's about 30 Celtic bars within 100 yards of each other. Recommend 'Keanes Bar' lots of big screens and the staff are a good laugh its also probably the biggest.
My computer's the same, it wont load past Big Joe's 8.00pm post. so if anyone asks...
BigJoefromtherigswh
obreakscomputersand
CQNserversdoneit!!!
:-P
TBE.
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Paul67
Thanks for the reply.
Not wanting to be overly critical or negative but I still have reservations regarding DD's involvement with the club.
First question is why a share issue now?
End of the five year plan?
If that is the case then it management by numbers. Two years ago was the time for a new share issue. Although at least we are having a share issue means that we will not have to have a fire sale come January to keep the bank happy.
Main point in all of this is that I think the board underestimated the effort needed to get the club moving forward after "Black Sunday". BB and SV in the middle of the defence said it all for me.
However at least we have started to move forward, PL now having got up to speed on the arts of player negotiation has to get on top of the basic operations of the club. Vision is nothing if the basics aren't right.
Finally some points on the proposed share issue, given the need for DD to be like Caesar's wife on the subject of the ordinary share price, that is beyond reproach and above suspicion, flooding the market with discounted ordinary shares less than 24 months away from the conversion date for "BB's 2001 Special Shares" seems a bit careless.
Why not a new issue of "2015 Convertible Ordinary Preference" shares?
Similar terms to the 2001 issue but with less votes for any given investment.
150K @ £100 each means that the amount of new votes accruing to DD would be very small and very easily managed.
No need for an EGM on takeover thresholds, just cash to invest in the club.
As mentioned before this issue is just to keep the bank straight with a bonus of lowering the ordinary share price. £15mill means that any training ground will be mortgaged to keep the money as working capital. The CL failure will still be with us in 2007/08.
Finally (II) where does the club want to be? Kojo, I think, has been inhaling his own exhaust fumes if he thinks we are going to have a full blown Euro league.
But wht should the club aim for?
1) Status quo, SPL on the rebound so the timing is good.
2) EPL / SKY TV money + CL qualification every third year?
3) Euro "Saturday" league?
What really is on offer?
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Oregonbhoy…………………….
Regarding the………………..
plastics factory……………………
I think I can look after that 1 fine…..
But thanks for offering M8 ………………….
Oh…………….. and by the way
I didnay clog the blog…………………
Bigjoewhoisglad
heDidnaClogtheBlog
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BIGJOE, BROKE CQN
BIGJOE,BROKE CQN
BIGJOE,BROKE CQN
BIGJOE,BROKE CQN
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Paul67..........you said...... I don’t think the board are overly confident that they will be fully subscribed.
so we won't get the extra 5M?
or
we won't get the extra 5M form small share holders?
but
we will from other major share holders?
or........we will get 5M and take DD 10M ? =15M
so many questions and little time to answer...:-)
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Big Joe,
Did I see you post a wee leading question about Klos on one of the more reasonable (all things are relative) darkside websites tonight?
u2whowondersifjoeoccasionallywindsupfateckandhismatesfromthedarkside
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Paul67 now that the application forms and prospectus are released can you give a quick run through for the less savvy on how to apply properly?
When you get the chance of course...after fixing CQN...
cosBigjoebrokeita
ndruineditforallo
fusiproposeakanga
roocourtandpublic
cyberstoningofbig
joeforbreakingCQN
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Paul do we have to be on our bestest behaviour from now on as i am sure there will be a few influential (sp?) readers from celtic f.c. checking this blog out after todays interview.
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BALDEGO, we will have to go to sunnier climates than Belfast to administer said Kangaroo court.
Do you think we can put it on CQN expenses?
BIGJOE, BROKE CQN
BIGJOE,BROKE CQN
BIGJOE,BROKE CQN
BIGJOE,BROKE CQN
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The Bald Ego…………………..
Staying at the Barceló Margaritas………
In Playa del Ingles …………………..
Chers I will look for the…………………
'Irish Centre' and 'Keanes Bar'
Its not till next weekend…………
If I don’t get kicked oot of hear first…………..
BigjoewhoDIDENTclogtheBLOG.
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This is doing my nut in!It's like going to work without your mobile! AAARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
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AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry folks I just canny cope.
It's like the time e-tims didn'y have a rumour mill for about a month......hey wait a minute!they've still no got one!
AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Sean
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codi you and me....telepathic?
Sean
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Bigjoe………………………
Would like 2 defend himself…………
I get the feeling that………supercelt………….. and ……….TheBALDEGO……………. Are hanging judges…………….
If I go down………… I will take a few with me…………..
You all know who you are………………
Sleep with 1 eye open………………………..
bigjoewhoIsbeingFramed
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Big Joe Most of us already sleep with one eye open...but we are NOT paranoid!
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sean.....do you know when th e-tims rumour mill will be back on-line?
I thought it was only off for a month......should be back by now.
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i seen that a min ago sean.zo. you must have been writing as i posted!
Spooky
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Gerry
I don't know but the last time it was posted was the 7th of October, but they had said that they were running out of credible rumours,
But when has that ever stopped them in the past?;)
Sean
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try this it helps a wee bit .....hit the maximize window on leave your comment page.....
PS, big Joe.....it's even stopped at your post on News Now......:-)
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I would like to claim bigjoes innocence and blame Noel90 ( who is suspicious by his abscence) for the breakdown in the blog.
superceltwhoapologises
tobigjoeandhisfamily
foranyhurtorembarrasement
causedtothebigjoefamily
circle.
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Having now listened to the comments I am somewhat heartened. If we can get honesty from BQ (whilst sometimes I appreciate we cannot be too honest) - and BQ and co know it won't be distorted - then we can work together.
What the board needs to learn is that the support are not the numpties that they think we are. If they tell us the truth and set expectations we will listen - however they must expect to be challenged. I hope by using this board BQ accepts this.
On that note I have two points to make to BQ
1) When is Prudence not Prudence
I completely accept what BQ said when talking about the risks in football. It was Atlee that said the phrase "events dear bhoy" - wasnt it?
We most certainly do not want to "spend it like Rangers". However, as regular readers will know, my view is that, when you draw the reigns in too close then the risk actually becomes greater. As BQ pointed out the fans become disenfranchised, the heart and atmosphere leaves, suspiscions abound and suddenly you find yourself in a deep cycle of recession.
A balance must be struck - after Seville (and I will reign in my full theory here) - the reaction was over the top - which led directly to events like Black Sunday and the Artmedia disaster.
The board must accept that some risk is inherent in this business. Sure it must be controlled - but you should never masquarade no spending with a low risk policy.
2) BQ stated that DD had lost a lot of money. This is incorrect. DD will only realise a true loss if he sold his shares at current prices. I won't labour past points but should Celtic get into the EPL then that paper loss would turn into a massive gain.
If I can accept that what happenned Post Seville was simply the actions of a board that got an almighty fright after Basel - what the board must realise now is that it was their actions (or inaction) which led us to our most recent disasters.
Sustainability may well be the answer (glad that the prudence which wasnt really prudent has been replaced) - but the board must realise that the game of footy is about risk.
To go forward you must take a chance. If you get it right though suddenly you find yourself at a new level.
I prefer the word balance - but sustainability will do for now.
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Big Joe,
whereabouts in Gran Canaria are you going? I've been to Puerto Rico before and there was a few Irish pubs that showed football at the time (think one of them was called Molly Malones)....
PeatBlogwhowillprobably
bedointhenightshifttonightcos
itshisdayofftomorrow
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To those of you still alive and drinking rotgut waiting on Paul fixing the bandwidth problem then I'm sitting here with a nice Bruichladdich. Not my own unfortunately as that's several years away yet but not to be sniffed at all the same.
That comment was specially for weeron who I know comes from that lovely isle.
I suppose we could buy a few CQN casks (after the shares of course)?
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Right kids………………………….
I am off 2 bed B4 the possie
Rides in2 town……………………
I would also like 2 tell you all.
I have a very good friend who is a lawyer.
He got me out of that jail the last time…
Right......... you lot......... can take the blame.......
Iamoffski ..........
Bigjoeoffb4Pual
kickssomeass.
