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Welcome to Kenny Miller. I am not enthused by his signing as I do believe that he is no better than what we currently have.
However, he will receive my full support and I hope ALL Celtic supporters follow suit.
We pride ourselves on being an inclusive club with a support to match.
Now is the time to prove it!!
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3rd?
Welcome Kenny! hope you score a hat trick against TFOD next season!
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Kenny Miller Arghhhhhh!!!
They say you can tell how good a player is by the teams who were after him....sheffield United and ermmm Rankers.....Say no more.....
A squad player at best.....Why we dont give Yoof a chance is beyond me!!
Lets hope the other striker is of a higher calibre...(ie the one we need to see us through to the end of the season)
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Kenny Miller is the first Bosman we've ever signed????
Frankly I'm stunned by that...I had never even thought of that...
Anyway, welcome Kenny. I do hope he has matured as a player and if he has we can only benefit....
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Still dont think he's good enough but he will recieve my 100% backing in the hoops!
Its up to him to prove me wrong, and I hope he does!
Welcome to paradise Kenny Bhoy.
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2nd? - well its higher than r*****s will be all season anyway! woo hoo!
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Paul,
here's hoping he shines in the Hoops.
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wow!! can't believe I have joined the elite first post club!!
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Glad to hear he has signed on the dotted line.
Good competition for places up front now. Is this the end for BBJ now?
Curly
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Contrary to your assertion, Paul, I believe that - with Maloney and Naka supplying the ammo, Kenny Miller CAN be a THIRTY goals a season player for us in the SPL.
Scottish defenders HATE players with pace.
He will also be a great help to our defence in away matches in the Champions League.
And, as with Henrik (albeit not of his standard... who is?), he will be our first line of defence.
The bits and pieces of the jigsaw are coming together nicely.
Welcome to Paradise, Kenny!
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Some of MO'Ns signings[Suzanne Vega]were not overtly criticised at the time as he was seen as someone who could jumpstart a players'faltering career,CRS being the classic example,and also Bobby Petta[for about a month]
Today is Dolly Parton's 60th birthday so we're having a tribute night at the Berserkers.I'm wearing a blonde wig on my head,and a cast of BBJs backside on my chest.
Please don't take him
just because you can...
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My views on Kenny Miller are now well documented and from here on in I will keep my council and give him a chance to prove himself.
But PLEASE, PLEASE do not suggest he is a suitable replacement for Chris Sutton.
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We have to assume that KM has been watched over the past few months. You don't give 3 year deals based on a couple of Scotland games...do you ?!
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Paul
What about Caldwell? Is he not our first Bosman signing on a pre contract?
Miller is not my cup of tea but once he is a Celt I will back him 100%. I am reliably informed that TFOD did try to hijack signing.
SB
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Look forward to seeing him score against the huns :o) You think he'll celebrate?
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Can we put the talk of KM being an ex Rangers player to bed this to me is not an issue. Let the Rangers supporters be the ones to have a problem with him, not only in that he is now going to play for us but also because if the media have it right he knock them back.
Paul67 I agree he is not John Hartson type player and that he will not score thirty goals a season ( not least as he will be at best a rotation player), however, he will not add to the team in any way in the manner that Chris Sutton did.
If someone at CP can instil in him a good 1st touch then he will become a better player and be able to apply his pace.
I live in hope and pray that the powers that be at CP can get the other RK on the books, that would be something that would benefit us and he would be a force in the CL. Any of the ADUMBRATE posters out ther able to give us a clue to this?
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Welcome aboard Kenny.
Something we have missed for the last 2 years is a striker who will hassle opposition defenders in their own half. Whilst Miller may not be a 30 goal a season striker (although I am always optimistic), he will run his legs off up front and will never give the opposition a rest. His energy and movement will create space for others (Naka, Shaun, etc) to run into.
I have a feeling a lot of people will be eating their words over this signing. If Miller can perform regularly to the level he did against Italy a few months ago, then we will have a very good player.
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Posted this in previous thread, but thought I'd repost as it is relevant.
Let's put this weeks events into so finacial context.
We release a trial defender who failed to impress at the highest level thus saving the £700K fee.
We then use the £700K saved to bring in a Hungarian International LB an area that we have trouble with this season.
And finally we sign two Scotland Internationals on Pre-contracts thus saving god know how many hundreds of thousands of pounds.
Taking away the fact that some people may not rate these players I would say that WGS and his staff must have just cause to sign these players and I for one will stand by them as long as they wear the hoops.
Hail, hail.
/Bishop B
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Welcome Kenny
GM I agree
Tried to write something a few times but I can't clearly state what I want to say.
Whats the betting that Dickov is the next signing?
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GM, totally agree, hallmarks of Darren Jackson not Chris Sutton.
Let's see what you are made of Kenny.
Welcome Kenny, play well and with heart, you will quickly be a hero.
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GM, He's a completely different player to Sutton, He's an out and out striker with pace. I actually think Zurawski is a Sutton type of player who will score more goals that Chris did. He's intelligent and makes runs and holds up play for the rest of the team.
Kenny will bag goals in the SPL, he did before and he will again, dont worry about that. Its how far from that can he take us?? thats where my niggling doubt comes from but nonetheless he's a bhoy and will be treated like one. C'mon Kenny!!
The office Huns have already started the "Signing Rangers rejects...huh huh"!!
Straight talking Gord
TBE.
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It seems W.Bridge is going to Fulham on loan.
I think Robbie Keane has recently been made skipper at Spurs,which may suggest they don't think he's going anywhere soon.
ExRangers player welcome at Celtic-Gattuso?
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Can someone confirm to me whether or not Caldwell has officially signed a pre-contract with us or not?
I have as yet, seen nothing official from the Bunker telling me it is done and dusted....
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Paul
I share your delight that we are finally doing what is required in the marketplace viz think and plan ahead. Welcome Kenny Miller. Don't care who you played with before or what your first touch may be. You've been signed for your attributes and what they will add to the teamn plan.
Re-post from previous thread as the comments will be relevant for as long as there are alternatives views on WGS downsizing and the like.
Please can we have some perspective from the doom and gloomers?
Whilst they all wax lyrical about the MON era etc and bemoan the loss and presumed future loss of the world class (as they tell it) Larsson Sutton Petrov Hartson (even Mc Namara for some) they complain bitterly about the downsizing evidenced by the likes of Telfer, Camara, Miller, Wilson and conveniently ignore the introduction of Boruc Nakamura Zurawski because it doesn’t suit the argument.
Can they and we just remember two things.
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That this collection of “great” players whose loss they are regretting, whilst giving the success starved support great moments under MON for which we are all grateful, were beaten UEFA Cup finalists and never qualified for the last 16 of the Champions League.
Two.
That the Lisbon Lions were all home grown players, possessed probably only one world class player that compares with Larsson, but together were the most formidable collection of players ever to don the hoops.
The majority of that team were the underperformers and bit part players of the late 50’s and early ’60’s but together they became legends. For those who were there they will remember there was plenty of talk then about players not being “ Celtic class” and the thought of winning almost anything at all thought of as a hope rather than a possibility. European Cup? – in your dreams. Well we all know what happened. A real team did that. Not a collection that suddenly came together overnight but a number of disparate parts welded together into a formidable force a team continuum that went on to win 9 championships in a row against stronger opposition than MON’s teams ever faced.
A team that can do great things is what I believe Gordon Strachan aspires to and I for one believe its possible not only to dream the dream but to live it. I will continue to support the aim regardless of the occasional blip or concern re some of the individual parts.
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In general, I think its a bad move for players to sign for "the opposition", eg Judas, Sol Campbell, Figo etc.. It just proves that they are motivated purely by money, and don't care what supporters think. It shows a lack of respect for the people who previously idolised you and made you a wealthy man (even if they were all huns!).
On the other hand, I suppose its possible that KM bears a grudge against Rangers for letting him go, and he wants to getitrightupthem.
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Re Robbie Keane, I was under the impression his contract was nearly up but have just found the following quote from 08 Jan
"Asked to guarantee to fans he will still be at the club at the end of the transfer window, Keane replied: "I have two and a half years left on my contract. That says it all."
Also from Dec last year,
"Keane's contract expires at the end of the season but Spurs have the option to increase it for another two years and Jol insists that is exactly what they will be doing."
Can anybody clarify the position?
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Welcome Kenny Miller,
You have seen the error of your ways i.e. playing for Rangers....and sought to rectify it ...we forgive you!
There's one thing you cannot coach in a player and that is pace! Paul is right....that is the plan for this team...plenty of pace.
KM has this and WGS will coach him in some of his other development needs. He can finish and he will get better at this.
Well done Celtic.....a decent player who will do a job for us and no transfer fee.
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Otis_green
Why the concern over a Spurs player?
SB
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Baldymeister-
Noooooooooooooooooo .
Not Paul dickov.
Please.
noel.
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Tell all the bears they're rank
We've got Miller, with Bosman to thank
He once wore the blue
He's much better noo
And he thinks that wee Novo's a waste of space
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Seany..I'll let you into a wee secret, there's been a rumour doing the rounds in certain circles for about 5 years give or take that a certain Spurs player MIGHT be heading for Paradise. Keep that under yer hat ok?
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Look can we forget about Robbie coming?
We shop now mainly in the 'Kwikimart' of the English CocaCola Championship, not the quality Waitrose of the EPL.
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Watched a Hibs v Celtic game at Easter Rd from 1980 on Celtic TV last night. Celtic drew 1-1 & Aitken scored our goal with a sweet header from a deft Provan free kick.
Big Roy turned to the Hibs end & gave a good old left hand under the right arm salute a la Jim Melrose at Tannadice/Berkovic celebration. I'm still laughing yet.
We definetely need better 'old school' goal celebrations like that. Only Suttons was half decent & he's gone now
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Hi Paul
I agree with Celticbhoy's comments at 11:36. I think part of the problem is that too many people are compairng Kenny Miller with Mo Johnson. These same people might do better to compare KM's move with Alfie Conn back in the seventies.
With Johnson the problem was he said he wanted to re-signng for the Hoops, then in the next breath he signed for Rangers. As a result, he became the poster boy for all things evil as far as Celtic was concerned. KM dores not appear to carry that sort of baggage. So let's just wish him all the best.
It is also nice to have some idea of who will be in the team for next season instead of the usual nail biting 'Will he/Won't he sign for us' fiasco that comes around every 31th August. It also gives the press less of a chance to stir things up atround that time as well, although you can bet it won't stop them getting up to mischief anyway.
I do not see him scoring as many goals as BBJ, but he has other qualities, such as pace, and stamina that we appear to have been lacking up front. Will he be a success? Only time will tell. Given our current financial state, KM is about as good as we are going to get.
Does anyone know much about this Hungarian lad Halmosi?
Hail Hail
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KM is currently a better player than (and much less injury prone) than Craig Beattie. I think in a few years Beattie will be far better than KM but as of todays date thats the situation as I see it.
He's also far better than Nacho Nae Goals so if that wee nyaff can score 25 goals why can't KM score 30?
A lot of you boys will be eating your words in a years time. I'd be willing to wager on it!
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Waitrose??? Overpriced rubbish!!!
We shop in CostCutter my brother....
I have heard from my Spurs mole that Keane absolutely, definitely, certainly has a two year extension/option on the table, but it is at Spurs' choice rather than his.
My mole has told me though that Keane's extension is based on a few things. namely Mido signing permanently, Defoe being hoofed, Razsiak being hoofed and the signing of a certain Dutch striker which is officially still top secret......unless your mole spills the beans during drunken idiocy....this won't be until summer, but appears to be a cert (injury dependent though)
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Good points bhoyinengland. Maybe all we can afford currently and if things dont work out we could even make money by selling him to one of the EPL/C'Ship yoyo teams.
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WGS , Robbie Keane and all will be forgiven. ALthough we shop in the basement in england from fifth place down in the EPL isnt any different from the championship.
When asked "At McNamara testimonial" in May would "you play for Celtic" The answer was in the company of Graham Kavanagh , Roy Keane and chris Sutton and several supporters "yes only if WGS wants me".
Over to you Gordon.
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Robbie Keane is definately under contract for another two years. the fact that he has led spurs out in the absence of ledley king seems to indicate how highly Martin Jol regards him and there is no-way I can see him leaving Spurs.Re: Kenny Miller
Tell all the huns you know
We signed Kenny Miller and you no.
He used to be scum
But now he's our chum
He's gonna help us win 2-in-a-row!!
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Where did this "Kenny Miller is a Rangers reject" story come from?
They bought him for £2 million and sold him for £3 million.
For a selling club like Rangers, that represents a success story, surely?
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Londonbhoy ,
Miller better than beattie? I beg to differ. miller is mainly a boot cleaner until injuries kick in.We all know how expensive boot cleaners called miller end up at other clubs dont we. I'd urge the youth team players to step up to the mantle. Kick this little toe-rag into touch. Here's hoping for a successful punt in jan. or next june.
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My only thought is that it just goes to show the measure of the lad that he is prepared to put up with all the stick and hard times he will no doubt get from both sides of the fence yet is still strong enough as a man / person to come and take up the challenge. Good luck to you kenny, welcome to Celtic.
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Well can't say I'm enamered by this signing but by default he gets my full backing. The lad has a point to prove - let's hope he proves it pretty sharpish!
And going on from my point last night - if it is true he will be on £20,000 a week then us Celtic fans can forget any ambition we have for the club - we say money is tight then throw it away.
What happened to shopping in the right markets?...
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Totally underwhelmed by the news.I see the Central Committee of CQN has rewritten history and Kenny Miller is now and always has been a good player.
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I wasn't bothered whether he signed or not so I hope proves me wrong and btw I heard he's a celtic fan.
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John H-
not me.
If he wears The Hoops though we have to back him .
noel.
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A very warm Celtic welcome to Kenny Miller. I am sure he will add more than a few goals to the tally as we look forward to retaining our title AGAIN next year.
Helicopters won't be required to present the league trophy, we will have it tied up & neatly wrapped long before May this year & next year as well.
An astute piece of business if we can acquire another forward to complement the strike force we will have ample cover for injuries / loss of form etc.
Colours + Mast firmly nailed.
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I see Mr Lovenkrands is on the BBC site stating that he can't go out in Glasgow alone, after twice being hit by Celtic fans.
Is this a warning for KM, or merely an attempt by Rangers to deflect news turning to the lack of signings on the South side.
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John_H,
I don't think that's what is being said at all. Not by most people anyway.
Most people have take an "I'm not totally convinced but I'll give the lad a chance and in any case will support anyone in the Hoops" attitude.
Paul said he has pace and has been signed earlier than previous Bosmans - not "Kenny has been my faourite player for years and he is better than Ronaldo"
Hail Hail
HB
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I have waited until it was official before posting this....
Miller is PI*H
Wouldn't buy under any circumstances
Only idiots would buy
Miller is a complete waste of time
If I never see Miller it will be too soon.
There again I am a real ale drinker and wouldn't touch FIZZY PUSSY BEER - I do however think the footballing Miller is a very good acquisition.
Don't care where he's been
Don't care how many goals he scored last year
He wasn't playing for Celtic - he's never played for a good team - now he will show what he's got.
If he doesn't play well he doesn't play - competition for places is getting good....I can sniff the warmer weather now....
TB
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AH WELL!! It wasn't a dream after all!!
In all seriousness though, now that he is here, he will receive my full support, and not just for the first few games, if he gets of to a bad/mediocre start.
Edward
Now that WKM has emerged from the darkness and into the light, any chance of you following soon?
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Here's the latest update on the speculation at PH. Note that we are now persuing a striker from Bournemouth if the Daily Rankers is to believed -
Comings:
Alexei Eremenko - Lecce - fansfc - Possible loan
Derek Riorden - Hibs - Daily Rankers - No fee mentioned
Garry O'Connor - Hibs - Daily Express - £1.5 million quoted
Gary Caldwell - Hibs - Daily Rankers - SIGNS PRE-CONTRACT DEAL (16/01/06)
Grzegorz Rasiak - Spurs - Spurs fan site - Magic and Artur's fellow countryman cost £1 million in summer but has failed to impact 1st team
Henrik Larsson - Barcelona - Kojo - If dream come true we'd get him for free!
James Hayter - Bournemouth - Daily Rankers - £300K quoted
John O'Shea - ManYoo - Sunday People/Sunday Express - £3 miilion quoted although a loan deal may be possible
Kenny Miller - Wolves - The Sun - SIGNS PRE-CONTRACT DEAL (18/01/06)
Kevin Kibane - Everton - Hunday Mail - More mindless guessing game from the hacks of the Mint
Kevin McDonald - Dundee - SkySports - No fee mentioned
Kevin McNaughton - Aberdeen - vitalfootball.co.uk - Refused new contract
Lubos Husek - Jablonec - Sky Sports - £150K
Mark Wilson - Dundee Utd - BBC/Herald - SIGNS 4.5 YEAR DEAL FOR £500K (16/01/06)
Michael Brown - Spurs - Daily Express - No fee mentioned
Michal Zewlakow - Anderlecht - The Hearld - £300K quoted
Nigel de Jong - Ajax - SkySports/Algemeen Dagblad - No fee quoted
Paul Dixon - Dundee - SkySports - No fee mentioned
Paul Hartley - Hearts - Various - £1Million+ going by our previous attempts
Radoslaw Sobolewski - Wisla Krakow - Scottish Daily Mail - £400K was quoted last year but looks more likely to sign for Jamfarts
Pedro Mendes - Spurs - Mail, Express/Various - Signed for Portsmouth combined fee of £7.5 million for Mendes and Davis (12/01/06)
Peter Halmosi - Debrecen - SkySports/BBCi - SIGNS FOR £700k (18/01/06)
Robbie Keane - Spurs - Everybody at some point - £6 million mentioned, so non starter me thinks.
Roy Keane - Free - Everyone - SIGNED (02/01/06)
Sean Davis - Spurs - Daily Express - Signed for Portsmouth combined fee of £7.5 million for Davis and Mendes (12/01/06)
Steven Hammell - Motherwell - ETims - No fee mentioned
Steven Pienaar - Ajax - Daily Rankers/Radio Synde - £1.5- £2million - Signed for Borussia Dortmund (20/12/05)
Steven Whittaker - Hibs - Daily Rankers - No fee mentioned
Vitaly Kutuzov - Sampdoria - E-Tims - No fee mentioned
Wayne Bridges - Chelsea - WGS - Possible loan deal, but could we aford the wages?
Goings:
Alan Thompson - The Sun - Probably a nominal fee as he has 18 mths to run in current deal
Chris Sutton - The Sun - Everton and Portmouth both suppose to be interested. £300K quoted - FREE TRANSFER TO BIRMINGHAM (05/01/06)
Didier Agathe - Players agent - Middlesbrough want him on trila with Leeds interested in a loan deal.
Du Wei - BBCi - Loan deal ended on Sunday 15/01, returned to his club Shanghai Shenhua (17/01/06)
John Hartson - Hunday Mail - Portsmouth are keen to sign BBJ but WGS is not keen to sell
Mo Camara - Sky Sports - Deby County are suppose to be interested
Stanislav Varga - Sky Sports - Kaiserslautern and Bayer Leverkusen are reportedly interested
Stephen Pearson - Daily Rankers - Livi interested in loan but Preston are interested on permanent deal. £200K being mentioned.
Stillian Petrov - Daily Express/SkySports - Fulham reportedly made £3.2 million bid. Everton quoted to be waiting with a £4 million bid.
As always if anyone has heard of any others please let me know.
/Bishop B
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Does anyone know the contract details that miller has signed upto?
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MoanTheHoops - It's a three year deal with the option of a year extension.
/Bishop B
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been away for a few days, and seem to have missed all the fun!
Can someone confirm if Caldwell/Wilson/Helmosi(sp?) have signed? Sorry if that's a dumb question, but i like confirmation from those in the know... ;-)
Welcome Kenny Miller - bit of a surprise, but like all of us, i hope you do the business, and you'll receive my full backing!
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I see the Miller signing has
not pleased e v e r y b o d y
noel.
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Welcome to the family Kenny.
There is more rejoicing in the Kingdom of Heaven over one sinner who repents........... ;o)
Wonder if this will get reported as "Gordon Strachan has delivered the first psychological blow in the January transfer window by snapping up Kenny Miller from under the noses of Rangers".
You know, like the Fan Fan deal was.
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Will back him to the hilt as long as he plays with us.Worried that the boo boys will find him an easy target.They give dyed in the wool Tims a bad time.
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Cheers Len Brennan. Do you know, or anyone else know how much he is per week?
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Unfortunately He'll end up a FAN FAN. Our FAN FAN.
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Cheers Len Brennan. Do you or anyone else know how per week miller is receiving?
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Otis 12.01
Yes and it has been boring for 5 years OK?
SB
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Thank god Celtic have finally grasped the art of forward planning & the Bosman market.
The annual sight of O'Neill driving a Y regi Montego (with no road tax, crisps scattered everywhere & a baby seat) up & down the M1 on the last day of the January Window was becoming tiring.
Driving into Killington Lake services at 2.00 in the morning with John Robertson smoking 200 fags in the back seat & asking Dwight Yorke & Michael Gray if they want to join Celtic.
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Dont think its purely a Glasgow phenomenon for players to be involved in altercations.In Lovenkrand's case I think he is lucky to have only been hit twice.Does he include Tommo's head butt I wonder?
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londonbhoy you are correctamundo....miller is far superior to nacho nyaffo. and while all the cqn posters (and paul!) are slating wgs' signing remember saint martin tried to sign novo!! and he knocked us back to go to the huns.
so please cqn'rs stop having a go at wgs signings and take a look at saint martins collection of duds!!!!
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Welcome KM,
A couple of points. You may have noticed on the News Now site that Rangers tried to go back in to buy him and Barry Ferguson pleaded with him on the phone not to join us - surely that's got to be worth some big smiles. How are big fat DJ and windbag Keevins going to explain how Murray Mint couldn't secure a Bossman that they were after?
Second point - KM showed his potential against Italy and if we can get that level of performance from him we will have an excellent forward. Away from home in Europe that type of player means the opposition have to leave 2-3 men back, not something they had to do with Chris Sutton or BBJ. I think he'll do the biz for us and hope he gets the support and time to settle in.
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Reputations count for nothing in football - ask Juninho.
Would the sceptics rather we had got the badge kissing bam Novo a couple of seasons ago?
Miller might not be a 30 goals a season player but he will give GS options and that is something we have lacked since HL left.
Good luck Kenny Miller, you've got a point to prove.
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im not too overly fussed on the ex rangers thing, id like to see one get a hat trick at ibrox!
im concerned because in my opinion, we will be spending big wages (if we did in fact beat off EPL teams) on a player who isnt better than what we have, added on with the fact that he doesnt actually offer us a different dimension to what we have.
With Beattie, Maloney and Zuraski, they all do the job Miller will, bar Zurawski with the pace.
I'd rather we went for a striker who is a different mould to what we have, then depending on what game, or how a game is going, he would change the pattern of the game, where i dont think Miller will.
Again, our least outfield priority was a striker
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Scottish patriotism gone mad - sign miller after an "alledged" good game against italians who could not be arsed.
Beggars belief. Suppose we'll still want hartley too?.
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WeeMinger - did it say how often does Lovenkrands get hit by non-Celtic fans?
"A ned's a ned for a'that" as Robbie Burns might have said, but probably didn't...
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I think he might do a turn for us.
But please dont compare him to Chris Sutton for God sake.
We are not fools.
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Kenny Miller
A very astute and brave signing by GS. No Celtic manager since Stein has bought an ex-Ger. GS is proving he is his own man and his purchases are an attempt to shape the team to his manner and style.
Pace is becoming (or has become) the major requirement/asset for the modern day footballer.
Miller has this in abundance along with his new found strength and confidence.
I can't work out though if the reason the support are split is due to him being an ex-ger or the fact he is a scotland striker?
Just think of the joy and passion that Auld, Gemmell, Wallace, McGrain, Dalglish, MacLeod and Lambert all showed when wearing the hoops.
Good Luck Kenny!
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...Danny, the thing is he is better than what we've had with Beattie and Magic crocked for so long, playing midflieders out of positiopn etc. Another plus is I can't see us playing much route 1 football with a front line of Maloney and Miller.
21st century football's a squad game, especially when we're in the Champions League next year, so a current international (even if it is only Scotland), who has performed well in Europe, on a Bozzie has to be decent business.
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Big Liam - sorry you think that way, he ran the Italians ragged and if you saw them celebrating when they eventually got their goal I doubt if you would interpret it as a team that couldn't be "ar---d".
Although hugely disappointed in Hartley's behaviour in last game, I would still welcome him at CP, he would improve the team - end of story. He's no axe murderer or card-carrying loyalist as far as I'm aware.
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Who are these people emailing sky sports news? giving it all 'unacceptable' and 'outraged'
Makes us sound like them...
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No relevance to Celtic on this post but just found this on the BBC website:
"Hibs' Shiels to have eye removed
Dean Shiels does not want a fuss made over his operation
Hibernian's Dean Shiels is to undergo surgery to have an eye removed.
The Northern Ireland Under-21 international has been sightless in the eye since a domestic accident when he was eight years old.
Shiels, who can play in midfield or up front, said: "It was always envisaged that there might come a time when the damaged eye might have to be removed."
As having been a victim of losing an eye when I was 15 years old myself (and a budding footballer at the time too I may add), this is all too familiar to me and this is when you realise that football is not the be all and end all of your life
Hope all goes well for you Dean
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I would like to take this opportunity and thank TFOD for loaning out KM to wolves for the last few seasons to toughen him up for the longer term benefit of the Hoops.
Now thats the kinda spin a political scientist like myself would like to see emblazoned on our friendly rags.
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Whilst not exactly over the moon about the signing of Miller I, like many others, will give him my full backing as long as he is a Celtic player. I do not think he is the answer but as a squad player then I suppose he is a worthwhile addition. I feel sorry for the younger bhoys coming through the ranks though as they will feel that they're being pushed back down the pecking order come the start of next season. I for one would like to see the young Finnish lad given a chance before long as he seems to be banging the goals in for the reserves on a regular basis.
If Hartson leaves then I have been praying that his replacement would be of a similar mould ie big, strong as an ox and with more than a touch of arrogance (and slightly more mobile). During the past 5 years we have never went to grounds (namely Ibrox) in the fear of being bullied off the park, it was the other teams who were in awe of our size and strength. That is changing throughout the entire team now as we change our style of play, we still need the big men though.
Hail Hail
Bhoy O'Bhoy
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Too true DiscyBhoy. It's important not to lose sight of what's important in life.
Sorry.
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Bhass Bhoy
Wilson has definetly signed as has Miller. Caldwell I'm not sure if it's official but it's almost certain he will (think they're still waiting to see whether they get him now or in the summer before anything is signed?)
Halmosi is on a weeks trial but it is being widely reported by the player, his club and his agent that fees have been agreed. I expect him to be signed Friday or Saturday.
Anyone know what type of player James Hayter is? I know the name but don't know much about him.
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Big Liam - are you at the wind up or what? Toothache? Flu comin on?
Nobody can foretell the future - not even you, so lets be fair and reasonable, like all good Celtic supporters should be, and wait to see how it pans out. GS has had him watched for some time now and believes he can do a job for us. This is the same GS that has us top of the SPL 17 points clear of Rangers when at the start of the season posts like yours asking for him to be blootered where 10 a penny. Keep your powder dry until the time is right, some 6 months before we see him run out at Parkhead is not the right time.
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Malone19,
James Hayter is a striker ...and he is no better than average, he makes KM look like Larsson.
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I get the feeling Glen Hoddle will not be best pleased by this piece of business.
What goes around, comes around eh?
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Wee Minger, no sweat mate. You won't be the first and you certainly won't be the last!!
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Paul,
Was Mo Camara not signed on a Bosman?
Anyway, Kenny Miller. If he is going to be back up to the two strikers (Magic plus ?) next season then he would be a handy guy to have on board. However if he is going to be the main striker, then his scoring record is not good enough for a Celtic striker.
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Tom64 How are you keeping?
baldy
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BANG! WOW! KO! That was some right hook I did n't see coming. I'm even having a dig at celticfc.net for dumbing down it's reports and adding to the rumour mill.
It's not like celticfc.net to be ahead of the game but then again that might be a bit harsh.
Are congratualtions not in order for GS and his cohorts? Since the transfer window opened we have signed the legendary Roy Keane and by the looks of things signed an additional TWO PLAYERS on pre contracts plus Wilson.With Halmosi looking a decent prospect to sign by the end of the week.
All this work and it's only January 19! The media must surely be asking questions about rangers inactivity during the transfer window? One signing! Who would YOU pick if you had the choice?
I'm not too concerned about KM. it's the defence that needs sorted out but we'll nee to wait for the strogest players to emerge.
Roll on the summer!
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TimOTay,
I may be wrong here but I read that Bosman thing as:
KM is the first Bosman we've signed this far in advance of his contract running out - not the first Bosman signed full stop...
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Paul
re the previous thread. condecension is not an endearing quality. Let me clarify the point I was trying to make.
I understood that amortisation meant we couldnt spend under MON after large fees paid in 2000/2001.
I understood that the chaging football marketplace meant we had to cut the wage bill.
I understand that asset management means we may have to sell Stan.
However I dont understand where the lates round of mediocre signings are going to leave the club financially. Its as plain as the nose on Phil Thomsons face that season ticket sales were not as impressive this year as in previous years. Next year watching the likes of Wilson, Caldwell and Miller the numbers will begin to fall. Dont forget 15 years ago Celtic pulled 30k on a good day. In other words half the crowd in CP on a Saturday afternoon were doing something else with their saturdays and could easily go back to gambling, drinking, domestic violenc etc.
By my reckoning a drop of 5k in season books will cost the club 2.5million.
Heres a direct question to you Paul. Where will the money come from to fill the financial hole in our budget following such a drop in season book numbers?
The answer to me is a further drop in standards and subsequent drop in ticket sales etc etc.
Far from advocating spend more Paul I see the KM signing as an utter waste of money as he's worse that what we have. Does 20k a week over 3 years present a sound deal in your eyes for a none goalscoring striker when Craig Beattie is already at the club.
There may be people at Celtic just now who are quite happy to watch the standards fall to the level of competing in the SPL and out of Europe every year before Christmas. I for one am not.
Kojo
Enchanting European evenings? You are joking arent you?
I take it your taking Mrs Kojo to Paris for the weekend.
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I think we can see that the budgetary constraints (or down sizing financially) mean that we cannot sign proven players from the top echelons and have to sign lesser known players with the hope that they can progress and mature a la Larsson, Pierre etc.
Accepting this reality means we will not sign a Robbie Keane in this financial situation.
Some have mentioned 30 goals a season. That's top dollar that very few strickers will achieve. How many will BBJ get this season? He's going to be lucky to break 20 never mind 30.
If we can get 20 from Miller then that's probably a fair return.
Wouldn't have been my choice, but then I'm not WGS.
Welcome to the phenomena that is Celtic, try your best, work hard and you'll have my support.
As with all players if he's a wrong signing it's not his fault. That's down to the Manager.
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Just thought i'd try to lightn the mood a little... and was wondering if anyone cared to name their top celtic team for the last 10 years... ive gone for a 352 myself with
Boruc (Only real choice that I can think of Dougie/Magnus/Dmitri (haha) marshall/kerr/broto (not enough games) and johnie tried but... and i'm dont think packie was playin in 95/96)
Jinky/joos/bobo (other options would be who boyd,johan,enrico,didi/mahe(442), reiper? im sure im forgetin anthoer scandanavian but cant remember his name of top a me head, think we can forget scheidt/tebily)
Didi/Lubo/Lambo/Stan/thommo (not too sure naka has played enough (big games) to be there yet, other optins lenny, thom, di canio (not really his position i know but im struggling here)
Sutton/Larsson (Bit hard on bbj but they were the partnership, other options pierre? nah, beattie, burchill, maloney not enough games.. by the way i know a few of them have had recent dips in form but im refering to their peak
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Bhoy oh Bhoy
The lad I think you referring to is Finnboggason who is in fact an Icelander but been injured for some time. That aside he is still very raw and has no great pace but is big and skilful despite his size and may come good. Another worthy of note is Diarmud O' Carrol who is possibly closer to a first team start. Again he is no Craig Beattie or Kenny Miller when it comes to pace and for the time being that's what Gordon Strachan sees as the style to give us domestic success and a chance in Europe.
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I'm not sure about KM, BUT thinking back, wasn't Brattback, the same type of player, he didn't score many goals due to teams sitting back 25 yards out,leaving little space to run into (His perfect goal the one he scored against St Johnstone).......... keep with me now.....
How many goals does Henry score for the gunners with a ball played through the middle, from a break.
the SPL is no longer afraid of Celtic or TFOD, teams do not sit back and defend against us, they attack and leave holes at the back, at the moment we have the players to pass the ball through these holes, but we haven't got a player making the runs, if anyone can, Miller can!
The player is growing on me minute by minute. and thats coming from me who laughed when TFOD were going to sign him after his display against Italy, cause i thought he was p***.
He is now wearing the hoops, so i back him 100%
Hail Hail
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All you guys only compare him to a "wonderous" performance against italy , basically all he has done in his career. He isnt Celtic class. Worse than a telfer signing except it looks like he's not just here for a stop gap. Its all well and good filling the Celtic side with scotland internationals but has anyone told WGS that scotland are, lets face it, crap.
Its a bit hypocritical for some to tick me off for my views while cutting our current team to shreds every week. I'll state the obvious, signing a championship player who amassed a grand total of 7 goals in the league this year , to lead our CL forward line is frankly insane.
Denia-bhoy , hartley would never enhance Celtic football club in any footballing attribute. He's another average footballer riding on the crest of a wave lead by the "Messiah" walter smith.
At least belarus brought the hype down or we would probaly try and sign webster and pressley.
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BelfastBhoy,
other Scandinavian defender, Vidar Riseth?
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Big Liam,
Right, got the message. You don't rate him. Big deal. If you declare that his display against Italy was an "alleged" great performance then you are obviously being less than objective. In fact, some of your views and language border on the childish.
As it happens, the only opinion that matters is Gordon Strachan's. He's watched Miller plenty of times. As has Tommy Burns, who has also seen Miller in training for Scotland. And our scouts will have compiled numerous reports on his performances for Wolves this season.
May I suggest that their opinions on Kenny Miller's abilities might be a tad more "informed" and "objective" than yours?
C'mon, big man, tell us again how bad he is...
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Welcome to Kenny Miller, I think he might suprise a few people, footballers develop at different times, I think we are getting Mr Miller at his peak time, whether it's good enough lets see!
Belfast Bhoy,
This is my team probably would've had DiCanio in there if it wasn't for his latest antics. Obviously early days for Boruc and Naka but they're in there for their undoubted potential.
..............Boruc
McNamara.....Mjallby..Balde......Boyd
Naka....Petrov....Lambert....Moravcik
..........Larrson...Sutton
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Does anyone know if Marcantonios do Fritters?
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A very warm welcome to Kenny Miller.
http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/2006/01/miller-added-to-striking-options-for.shtml#c113767835173817810
I like these types of questions my best XI over the past decade would be a 3-5-2
Boruc
Mjallby Rieper Stubbs
Agathe McStay Petrov Moravcek Thompson
Larsson Sutton
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peat thats the one had a picture in my mind and everything, could remember if it was him or reiper was the dc or dmc and which one had the health issue? a brain tumour wasn't it?
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Big Liam
I agree entirely and was as upset as you clearly are. However I'm hoping that it is something like this:
BBJ wants away. That leaves us 2 strikers, Majic and Beattie. (Maloney is definitely a midfielder, he's tremendous there). We need 4 strikers. Personally I think Beattie and Majic would be a great pairing but maybe Beattie should still be back up for a season or too for experience/prove fitness. So we need a first choice and another back up. Kenny Miller is the back up? I hope. A.N. Other is yet to arrive (Robbie Keane??). Now all of a sudden our striking options don't look too bad at all, with your 4th choice having international experience and still learning.
Now maybe strikers 1, 2 and 3 stay fit and Miller is unhappy at Christmas. OK, son, find yourself another club, we'll take the first offer of £1.5M in the January madness.
Feel any better? The proof will be in the NEXT striker signing to complete the 4. Till then, chin up big guy.
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Qotsa when did mcstay hang up his boots?
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BelfastBhoy,
brain tumour=Wieghorst, wasn't exactly a brain tumour I think. The german lad at Liverpool had the same thing, guillame something I think it was called. maybe a CQN cyber quack could help us out with that one!
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I think big Morten had Guillame-Barre Syndrome
not too sure how the big man is getting on now...hope all is well.
Hope this helps ;-)
~ ~ ~ Magic's Barber ~ ~ ~
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Wasn't morten the cb and marc the dmc?
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Nah, Morten definetly played CM and Rieper was CB.
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Wieghorst suffered from Guillaume Barre syndrome (a form of peripheral polyneuritis characterized by pain and weakness and sometimes paralysis of the limbs; cause is unknown) as indeed did Liverpool player Markus Babel.
Wieghorst did eventually restart his career and went on star for (I think) Copenhagen and Denmark earning himslef player of the year awards and the nickname "Braveheart"
He recently retired after a knee injury suffered I think against Scotland/England funnily enough ( I remember watching it)
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Morten Wieghorst had `Guillain Barre` syndrome. Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), is an acquired immune-mediated inflammatory disorder of the peripheral nervous system (i.e. not the brain or spinal cord).
It is also called acute inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy, acute idiopathic polyradiculoneuritis, acute idiopathic polyneuritis, French Polio and Landry’s ascending paralysis.
The pathologic hallmark of Guillain-Barré syndrome is loss of myelin in peripheral nerves due to an acute and progressive inflammation of unknown cause.
It is suggested that Guillain-Barré syndrome is an autoimmune disease, in which the sufferer’s immune system is triggered into damaging the nerve covering.
Dr Bob.
Welcome Kenny Miller, I sincerely hope you do an excellent job for us, I do wish some on here would give the guy a chance before writing him off. You`ll have to anyway, cos he`s coming to us.
Hail Hail
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Celticblog,
Interesting coming from you. Unfortunately the truth hurts dosent it?
Say we had signed a similar player from a similar league who had scored a goal against tough opposition? eh? Imagine we signed david healy? Take off the Saltire tinted glasses and then you'll see where i'm coming from.
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If Kenny Miller is really as bad as some will have us believe, does it mean that no one on the Celtic coaching staff recognises this? Or just that no one is willing to say as much to WGS? Frankly, I don't believe for one minute that WGS makes this kind of signing decision in isolation, even if it's ultimately his call.
Another thought, why does KM get a game for Scotland if he is so poor? If Riordan is so much better, why does he not oust him from the team? I assume that Tommy Burns rates KM given he works closely with him and is also well-placed to offer an opinion to the rest of the Celtic coaching staff. Gelnn Hoddle must also rate him if he was so keen to retain the boy. And Rangers desperately try to sign him from under our noses . . . And P8ddy before you bold me, I accept that all of the above could be wrong in their judgement.
Like everyone here I have my opinions about most players but I don't believe I'm a better judge of quality than WGS, his coaches and the Celtic scouts. And besides that, I believe that they are all working their butts off to deliver a successful side that plays attractive football. I accept that they will make some mistakes but until I have just cause to do otherwise, they and KM have my full support.
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That's Celtic officially announced Du Wei has left, why the wait?
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Big Morten defo played centre or right midfiueld, whereas Rieper played centre half alongside Stubbsy until he some horrible thing in his toe...(No cyuberquack nonsense for gammy toe disease from Rhum baa baa)
Riseth on the other hand just played.....badly.....everywhere he was put.
My team would read
Boruc,
Jackie Mac,
Rieper (Brilliant player IMO)
Bobo
Mahe (Poss Tom Boyd)
Lubo,
Lambo,
Petrov
Naka,
Sutton
Larsson
Subs
Gould
Mjallby (MF or defence)
Cadete (Hush a minute)
Thommo
Boyd/Mahe
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Celtic Blog, makes a good point, when he went to wolves he was a £3M player. We have him on a free if he doesn't work out we can cash in.
This time next year TFOD will be in a relegation battle, Lovenpants has gone and Boyd has flopped. Nice to get a peiece of the MINT's hard earned over draught.
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I think we're all reaching for reasons that Kenny Miller will be a good signing for Celtic.I think however most peoples initial reaction is the honest one.
Celtic Blog
His performances for Scotland have imo been patchy. Good against Italy at hampden rank against Italy in Milan.
2 goals in 14 games in the chamionship say more about him than I ever could. Like Telfer,Camara and Caldwell just another sign of the falling standards at Celtic.
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From http://www.wolves.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7085
It seems like the Wolves fans are sad to be losing such a 'poor' player:
"The wait is over. The decision is made. Kenny has signed a pre contract agreement with Glasgow Celtic and will join them once Wolves season is over.
The news will come as a bitter blow to Wolves fans hoping King Kenny might make an about turn and re sign for the club, but the reality is those hopes were slim."
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Big Liam,
No doubt you have a valid point.
But i do remember him breaking into the Hibs team and thinking - that boy can play- His move to the huns did`t work out- probably too soon.
What he will give, and something we dont really have now, is a tremendous work rate up front - defending from the front, etc.
But there`s no way we`re going to pay £17,000 per week in our financial situation for him to sit on the bench.
So he`ll be in the team - and we can forget about Robbie Keane.
In fact we can all now forget about any player who gets paid over £20,000 per week.........simple. (i.e Wayne Bridge )
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So mr Micheal Collins your opinion of your fellow Celtic supporters is pretty poor, to quote from your previous message
"Dont forget 15 years ago Celtic pulled 30k on a good day. In other words half the crowd in CP on a Saturday afternoon were doing something else with their saturdays and could easily go back to gambling, drinking, domestic violenc etc"
So 30,000 of the people that go to CP on a saturday are either gamblers, alcys or wifebeaters.
You are a plum.
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A big Celtic welcome to Kenny Miller. FFS some of you on here, give the guy a chance before writing him off.(You`ll have to anyway now that he`s definitely coming) I think he can do a job for us, he should get much better service playing with us than he`d get at Wolves, or Scotland for that matter, not much class there. (Bazza apart!!!) He wasn`t my first choice, neither was WGS but i`m happy with our league position, and i`m happy with the way we play football. (most of the time!) I think he`ll be well up for it,AND it might take some of the heat off of Neil Lennon from the boo boys. Ok, I made that last bit up.
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Like a lot of posters today and yesterday, I was not all that enamoured by the prospect and subsequent signing of Kenny Miller.
However, he's here - or will be soon - so lets get behind him, and if things don't work out we could always sell him to TFOD!
That would be good business.
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Malone 19
Simple Really - news management, we can stick it underneath the KM Good news story!!
More to the point
Why haven't we been able to make a decision on Du Wei after having him for 6 months, I know I've made the point before but surly he was playing against players of a similar calibre and age to Clyde week in and week out (SPL reserves).
One half in half a season seems little reason to condemn the guy. Either he was good enough or he wasn't, why were we trying to extend his loan deal?
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My team (3-5-2)
Boruc
Mjallby Balde Reiper
Di Canio McStay Petrov Lambert Thompson
Larsson Sutton
Di Canio may be a nutter, but what a player! McStay was probably just past his best by '95 but is still an all-time great.
Time to give Kenny Miller a break I think. No amount of whingeing is going to change the fact that he is now a Celtic player. I admire him for his personal courage in joining us, and even more so for turning down the Huns in the process. As for how well he will perform for us, time will tell, but he MUST be given a chance - he's one of us now.
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Derbyshirebhoy,
possessed probably only one world class player that compares with Larsson
I have to disagree with you but your use of the probably qualifier.
I do think that in 67.
Johnstone, Murdoch, Gemmell, Lennox were all world class, Mc Neill and Auld were not far away either, the reserves then were not bad too either
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His scoring record at Wolves (and dare I say it Scotland as well) could largely be down to the fact that he doesn't have a lot of talent around him.
I know some of you would have stopped that sentence 2 words earlier - fair enough. What are you going to do though? Wail and gnash your teeth for the next 6 months?
He's coming. End of story. We should not be putting down our own. Especially when they haven't even played a game yet!
Isn't there anything more constructive to talk about? What about Robbie K... Ow! Why did you you all punch me?
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"Mick Collins" will you be among those handing back season tickets? If you sat anywhere near me I'd be delighted. As for your comments about fans going back to drinking,gambling and "domestic violence" The first two I do every weekend anyway and the third one? Well I have serious doubts about where YOU are coming from.
Good luck Kenny Bhoy
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A player whose name has not been mentioned is Ivan Sproule.
Kenny Miller can bring to Celtic what Sproule brings to Hibs. As someone else mentioned, SPL sides cannot handle pace like that. Both Miller and Sproule are not yet scoring an abundance of goals, and are by no means great technical players, but they can both run at speed for ninety minutes (or from the bench,) put defences into disarray, and create openings. Do you want a player like that running for you or against you?
While Miller is no better than the attacking players we have, he does bring attributes we do not have in abundance - pace, stamina, and persistance in front of goal. Add the fact that he has something to prove, and it looks like a decent enough signing.
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Chairbhoy
I think we were trying to extend the loan deal to basically put off having to fork out any more money at the present for him.
I suspect WGS or the great Pierre was hoping to have said bye bye to BoBo bye now! We will be better placed at the end of the season to decide whether we need Du Wei or not.
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By the way if anyone is upset enough by Kenny Millers signing to give up their season book then I will have it.
For the first time in my life I can actually afford one.
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McStay played until 96/97 season - 15 appearances.
Boruc
McNamara, Balde, Mjallby, Boyd
Petrov, McStay, Lambert, Thompson
Larsson, Sutton
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Inside Write
He'd have to get a recurring knee injury before we could sell him to TFOD.
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Derbyshirebhoy
probably only one world class player that compares with Larsson
Glad you said probably and it is all about opinions but I rate Murdoch, Johnstone, Gemmell and Lennox in Henks bracket easily.
Mc Neill and Auld were not far behind.
Kenny Miller will be pulling on the hoops and that´s good enough for me.
Celtic are a better team than Scotland and KM will carve open a bucket load of chances. He has to make the step up if he wants to play in the CL. Considering that he could have ended up in an EPL team he shouldn´t be that far away.
One thing he will have to drop from his game is his greed.
Player acquisition in January good good.
Scottish players good good
non extravegent fees and wages good good
Young players with a point to prove good good
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There has been much made from the Parkhead gates from the seventies and eighties, a couple of things, after a series of disasters ground attendance was restricted for safety reasons.
Secondly boys were lifted over the turnstiles not registering in the official attendance, there was also a practise amongst some clubs of taking the cash but underestimating the official attendance to help with their tax burden.
Celtic of course would never be party to this despicable practice; however there was the odd occasion when the ground seemed somewhat fuller???
Also from memory, going to Parkhead on a saturday didn't restrict the drinking and gambling amougst a certain element of Celtic fans.
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derbyshirebhoy
we've all heard of lazy journalism, i've just invented lazy offthetopofmaheedism. the icelander you mention is the player is was refering to. I didnt realise he was out injured. I remembered his name constantly appearing on the reserves scoresheet in the View. In time he may come good, who knows.
Cheers
Bhoy O'Bhoy
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Derbyshirebhoy
>>probably only one world class player that compares with Larsson
Glad you said probably and it is all about opinions but I rate Murdoch, Johnstone, Gemmell and Lennox in Henks bracket easily.
Mc Neill and Auld were not far behind.
Kenny Miller will be pulling on the hoops and that´s good enough for me.
Celtic are a better team than Scotland and KM will carve open a bucket load of chances. He has to make the step up if he wants to play in the CL. Considering that he could have ended up in an EPL team he shouldn´t be that far away.
One thing he will have to drop from his game is his greed.
Player acquisition in January good good.
Scottish players good good
non extravegent fees and wages good good
Young players with a point to prove good good
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druiddude,
are you sure that wasn´t at pittodrie
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I hope Tom64 and Parkhead cum salford came through their health checks with flying colours.Bhoy O Bhoy you expressed the wish that we sign a player of powerful physique if Hartson leaves.The Guardian (Ewan Murray) today links the signing of Kenny Millar to the continuing speculation regarding Hartson`s departure and the need for a goalscorer in next season`s Champion League.He also informs us that Peter Lawwell and executive director Tom Allison each spent approx £108,000 on the recent share issue.Of the £15m raised it states £5m is to go to debt reduction and the balance for scouting operations and the proposed training centre at Lennoxtown.Finally mention of Morton Weighorst brings back memory of a game where we were coasting at Parkhead.Out on the right wing he stepped over the ball with his left and in one movement crossed with his trailing right for Larsson(?) to head home.
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So whats our team for the next few seasons
352
Boruc
Wilson/kennedy/caldwell
Aiden/Maloney/petrov/?/Naka
Zura/Miller
442
Boruc
Wilson/kennedy/caldwell/Hungarian fella
Aiden/Maloney/petrov/Naka
Zura/Miller
And if we are getting Miller for free does that make him a "Genuine Draft"ee
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..............Boruc
Agathe.....Rieper..Kennedy......Boyd
Naka....Petrov....Lennon....Moravcik
..........Larrson...Sutton
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I wouldn't be surprised if Kenny Miller turned out to be a 30 goals a season striker. He has the ability and no doubt will thrive on the service. It is an exiting signing and a shame that some people have blurred vision.
A young Scotland international with a great work rate, a good first touch, pleanty of energy, movement and enthusiasm not to mention a proven goalscorer at SPL level...... for free.
Could be worse.
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Druidude, I know this might sound crazy, but I thinh big Mortens cross was thumped in from..........One Mr Reginald Blinker. Or was I stoned?
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Kenny Miller once scored 4 goals in a game for Rangers in the SPL, so he can't be that much of a diddy, particularly as he now has international experience.
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Numptybhoy
was it not 5 ?
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true tim - i agree whats the harm in signing him hes young and could be a good player in the future
ps hope he bangs a couple in against TFODs
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Giz a huddle
These comments were an attempt at humour which has obviously escaped you but facts are facts and celtic were pulling 30k around 15 years ago. Are you arguing these facts.
anyone with half a brain can see that the atmosphere at CP is not right at the moment. This is due to an extra 30k season ticket holders who no little about lack of success. A drop in standards and these people could be for the off.
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NummptyBhoy,
Ut was actually five goals he scored that dayu. they were playing St. Mirren and the final score was 7-1
The last twice a player from Ibrox has scored five goals in one game, Celtic have went on to win the league.
The last one before K M was Marco Negri V Dundee United.
I'm sure our new striker will score a barrowload o0f goals for us.
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Bobby Russell
Aye it was - against aberdeen I think
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Who's the Experienced Italian Defender we're after?
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Michael Collins, you need to put the Miller signing in context with the other signings GS has made.
There have been mixed results, just as there was under Martin, but signing Miller (whom you don’t fancy), does not mean this is indicative of a lowering in standards or targets, as we will spend a total of £9m on transfer fees this season if the Hungarian comes.
You might be right and GS might be wrong on this one, I’ll concede that most people were right about Camara, but this is not the time to judge this signing, and we cannot extrapolate financial planning from this move and ignore the monies spent on Nakamura and Zurawski.
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Bobby Russell this is begining to sound so unlikely I think maybe we were both dreaming
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Experienced Italian defender??????
News to me....
Remember all this stuff about an ex-player returning to the club...................
RIIIIIIIICCCCCCOOOOO??????
Baldymeister's spiritual advisor?
just a thought....
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Re Lovenkrands and his two assaults. The real events that happened were that on two seperate occassions, a Celtic Fan walked past him, gave him some verbal and lovelypants fell to the ground clutching his face! Come on! We`ve all seen how Loveadive cheated Thommo! Does anyone really believe him when he says he was assaulted? He is a cheating wee scumbag.
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I dont understand the abuse those of us who dont think KM is a good signing are getting.
Why is it not allowable on this blog to be negative about some aspects of our club.
I have read on here people criticising other sites because they are too critical.It is the opposite here.
Many good posters here have either left or reduced their postings because of the personal ridicule.
I will not be giving up my much cherished season ticket or stop buying club merchandise or stop looking/posting on here just because we have signed KM.Surely I am allowed an opinion and I would dearly love to be proved wrong and he turns into a star for us.
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Michael Collins it may have been an attempt at humour but a poor one.
Agree with you about the fact that 15 years ago there was only 30k at games but do you honestly think that because one player signs they will all give up their season books.
If as you say 5k will then there will be other fans who will buy them.
I am sure there are a few people out there with kids who have not been able to get a season book up to now and this will give them the chance if your prediction is correct.
Can I ask you the question is winning the league not good enough?
Most people on the blog believe that we are good enough to win the league even with the defence that we have at the moment.
Some of the attacking football being played is fantastic and Mr Miller will IMO fit into the system being played comfortably and score plenty.
You are entitled to your opinion of KM but at least give him the chance to play a few games to see how he does.
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Druiddude/Bobby Russell, think I remember this happening at Pittodrie when we scored about 7 I think?
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Lovenpants is paving his way out of Rangers.
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Vinniethedog,
would we have won the CL the next year ?
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Best eleven in last ten...... simple!
Boruc and the Seville ten.
Oh and BTW we would have won it !!
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druiddude, michael_67
it was indeed against aberdeen at pittodrie. morten had the ball out on the right and crossed it by wrapping his right foot round the back of his left leg to the oncoming blinker who fired home. class.
Bhoy O'Bhoy
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Surely KM's signing is all about boosting the pool of players?
Many managers, Strachan and Mourinho included, look for a pool of 2 players for every position.
I would guess our first eleven might look like this now:
Boruc
Wilson, Balde, McManus, Halmosi
Naka, Petrov, Keane, Maloney
Hartson, Magic
and the second eleven
Marshall
Telfer, Virgo, Caldwell, Camara
McGeady, Pearson, Lennon, Wallace
Miller, Beattie.
This means that Agathe, Thommo and Varga can go as soon as they get clubs.
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Re.......... Kenny Miller .............if we remember back to MON first signing C Sutton, I remember folk saying what are we paying 6M for him, he is a Chelsea reject.
Ask i've said before Miller not my cup of tea but he coming to us so i'll give him 100% backing and hope he puts a barrel load by rangers.
welcome to the hoops Kenny
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Looks like Fan Fan has been given he's jotters by Big Eck
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/4628696.stm
also, the last quote is telling, "We have money, but not piles of it, and the British market is inflated at the moment." Either they don't think 10 million is much or.... shock, horror, it was all a lie! Couldn't have been, could it? Edward, why aren't your lot up in arms about this?
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I keep reading about people saying Celtic are no longer signing "Quality players" because they come from small clubs ??
Pierre Van Hoojidonk - NAC BREDA
John Collins - HIBS
Chris Sutton - CHELSEA RESERVES
John Hartson - Coventry (On the rebound from Rangers)
Magnus Hedman - Coventry
RObert Douglas - Dundee
Didier Agathe - Hibs
Jackie McNamara - Dunfermline
Even Henrik then was only £ 650,000 from Feyenoord at the tme he was never rated a world beater
Too many fans are now turning their nose up at players, thinking Celtic should only sign players from AC Milan - Barcelona - Arsenal etc. Get real, do you know the kind of wages these guys are on ?
Why would they want to leave even if not getting a game, unless we could match / better the current wages.
It's time we got better value for our money and not wasted it on guys to hang around the reserves on first team wages.
Juninho - Bellamy - Camara did not provide value, Bellamy produced a new spirit of hope for the support but surely wasn't worthy of £ 40k+ a week. He was always likely to lose the plot at any given time or suffer a hamstring injury.
At least now the whole squad is built around realistic salaries
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otis green
I seem to remember it being at Pittodrie as well. Reminisced anout this a few weeks back when I commented about my 6-0 100:1 bet - very nice day as well. I thought it was Ian Wright that scored from Morten's cheeky chip, but at my age . . .
Curly
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how about the worst Celtic XI of the last 10 years.
Hedman
Riseth/du Wei/Scheidt/camara
blinker/jununho/bonnes/guppy
fernandez/wright
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Found it, December 11 1999
"Celtic were rampant now and an astonishing flicked cross from Wieghorst was converted at close range from substitute Blinker as Aberdeen folded."
Aberdeen 0 Celtic 6
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BangkokBhoy ............some media outlets are reporting a BIG investment into rangers after January, anything between 120M to 10M ...........we will wait and see.........they may have got the M & a £ mixed up ........: -)
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No that im a fan of Regi, but thats selling his finish a bit short.
"Converted at close range"
Volleyed into the corner id have said...
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Why are my posts being posted before the posts that I am answering too ? sorry about the confusion ?
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Willie Bhoy, i think the problem is that when you talk about bobo,johan,joos,stan,pierre,larsson,di canio,thom, cadete, rieper etc they were unknown quantities, from unfamilair clubs and alien "to us" leagues... and while i agree that we won't be attracting stars from Barcelona... atlest theres the "fear of the unknown" factor from feyenord, dortmund et, and i think "squad" players apart and apart from ashton etc we can do better than the championship
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It was good ol' Regi who put in Morten's cross - it's one of those goals that's imprinted in the mind.
Another passage of play that's stuck in the mind was a freekick from Di Canio - someone (Burley, McNamara, Donnelly?) flicked the ball in the air for a volley and Di Canio smashed it towards goal - nearly went in as well!
Who mentioned anything about an Italian?
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Amoruso? well we are signing former 'gers today after all :o)
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Reports of a large investment into Ibrox AFTER the end of January.
What a surprise that is....just after the transfer window closes eh?
Why? Because the "investment" is needed to allay the MIM debt situation and pay bankers as opposed to recruit bankers to play for them.
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We're in talks with an Italian Centre half. Identity unknown
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Michael 67, he was trying to get out of the way of the ball by jumping over it (like some tackles) and it connected to his foot!!!
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Bhoy O Bhoy
Well Well Who would have thought it! The name Blinker and the word class metioned in the same paragraph.
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Italian Defender
I can officially inform you it's Paolo Maldini, I know his agent............................................................................................................. ok I've woken up and neither of the above is true
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I wouldn't have Juninho in there - the games (or was it just one) where he played in his correct position he was excellent against Rangers I do believe. MON continuously played him in positions he couldn't play. You can't expect him to get back and defend or bomb up and down the wing but that's what was asked of him - if he'd been allowed to sit in a 3-5-2 behind the strikers he'd have been a fantastic signing.
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Giz a huddle
For the first month of the season there were still season tickets available. The point I'm making is not about one player but about a general decline in standards which may result in people not renewing.
Agree about the league this year but dont you think this has more to do with the total collapse of our major rivals than with our quality.
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Also - Du Wei after one game (one which he wasn't the worst defender)? You must be mad! What about Tebily? Or Grey? Or Henchoz? Although all 3 are doing really well now!
Does that tell us something about our methods?
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A lot of youse have short memories team of the last ten year yet Paul McStay is not in it get real Lennon and Petrov are good players but McStay was on another planet to these two.
Boruc
Mjallby Rieper Stubbs
Agathe McStay Petrov Moravcik Naka
Larsson Sutton
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willibhoy, do you preview your posts?
What utter tosh. Who has posted we should be taking players from Arsenal etc?
I think you do your fellow posters a great disservice.
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Malone 19
Is tebily getting his game for Birmingham this season? I ask because I saw in todays paper that Bruce had paid us £700,000 for him and wondered if that was why we had given him Sutton for free
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Sir Paul,
You, being of a Perspicacious Wont,
Will have noticed..... in all of my previous postings in the Miller Controversy,I have never really mentioned my private thoughts in the matter.........of how I think he will perform as a well.....Performer....
Well, I am about to add this, to the MAELSTROM of Controversy.
It has been recorded on this very site, yesterday, in fact that.......
The HALLOWED LARSON, he of the GOLDEN BOOT.....No mean feat, if I may add....... He, who is mentioned in the company of several world-class strikers, as a member of the CLUB NONPAREIL.
Mr.Henrik, was a Goal Scoring Machine, par excellence. He was......
NOT NOTED, in his early statistics, as a REMARKABLE STRIKER!
Check the Stats....somebody.
Enough Already! The prefacing of what is to come, has been established.
Right?
Right!!!!!!
In light of the amazing turn-around in Henrik's goal-scoring prowess, after the first year at Parkhead, it is evident that he had indeed, succumbed to a transformation of Biblical stature.
He was now being elevated into the 30 to 40 goals per annum bracket.... and not without Merit.
The prickly question, arises.
Why?
Without going into all of the reasons that I believe, did shade the Drastic(not too strong a word)
advancement in his goals per season tally, here is my BALD ASSERTION......
HENRIK, for the first time in his Career......
WAS PLAYED IN HIS PROPER POSITION, WAS PLAYED TO HIS STRENGTH....and was SURROUNDED BY EXCELLENT PLAYERS.
To sum up.
I believe that Mr.Miller will REPLICATE.... AT LEAST... SOME OF THE GOAL-SCORING ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE HALLOWED ONE.....
Why? Pesky word.
To be perfectly candid..... I do not Know!
However.........
I just know!
I am basing most of my prognosis,of Mr. Miller's FUTURE CELTIC EXPLOITS,on.....
My Faith in the Shrewdness and Soccer KNOW- how, of The Little Admiral and his Celtic Crew of distinguished helpers.
The Manager, has the means at his disposal, to REINFORCE Mr. Miller's...
NASCENT... GOAL- SCORING ABILITY, with Players who are perfectly capable of supporting a Fleet-Footed, SLENDER, AGILE, Striker...
Which up to this point in Time,their support has been saddled... with a LUMBERING, MUSCLE-BOUND, Slew-Footed, TARGET MAN.......I DETEST THAT TITLE!
Yes,Guys..... I believe that The Celtic Manager has pulled of a Wicked MARCH....while the rest of us have been unaware of his intention.......
but not ALL OF US......THANK G*D!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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KOJO
You never cease..........
Petrov the Journeyman.
Miller, the new Larsson!!
That said they are very similar players, especially the way they get there heads to crosses v effective for smaller guys.
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Something is most definitely up here.......not only did I actually bother to read Kojo's post..I actually understood what the hell is was on about.....then......I found myself agreeing with him.......
Baa Baa's away for a lie down....I'll be nodding in agreement with Baldymeister next.........yeesh....
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Evil Rhum Baa Baa,
do you need that Cyber Quack again?
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Paul,
I trust Tom64 came through with flying colours. As for myself, while the colon itself is fine, the specialist has taken some biopsies, which he will give me the results of next week. Sorry to take up the space but thought I'd keep youse out there up to speed.
What's thsi about an Italian defender? Ricco Annoni to return? He was the only one I can remember who could mark thon Dane whose name I can't remember. He had a brother Michael, who was a player.
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Paul67,
considering these links
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/4628696.stm
http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/54562.html
and the fact that Miller has signed up for the summer with Rangers and desperate BF pleadings. I think you are missing a journalistic opportunity by refusing to spill the beans over the fan-fan story ?
Hail Hail
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Parkheadcumsalford,
never knew Erik Bo Anderson had a brother, let alone one called Michael :>)
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Bobby Russell I dont think you were stoned when Reggie scored! Laccy would have alerted the constabulary for that is where we watched the game!
SB
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Kojo
I think you are on to something there. Henrik really blossomed when he had Chris Sutton beside him. (although it would be an understatement to say he was also pretty decent before Sutton arrived).
When Kenny Miller plays finding the right partner will be a very important job for Gordon Strachan and may just decide whether Kenny is a success in the Hoops or not.
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BangkokBhoy
Here is how the signing of Fan Fan was reported .. oh how things have changed!
Blow for Strachan as Fanfan heads for Rangers
DARRYL BROADFOOT and MARK WILSON July 05 2005
RANGERS will today negotiate the signing of José-Karl Pierre-Fanfan, the Paris Saint-Germain central defender, from under the nose of their Old Firm rivals, Celtic.
That will add to the frustration experienced by the Parkhead club in the transfer market yesterday, when they saw negotiations stall over a £2m deal for Maciej Zurawski and their chances of landing Craig Bellamy from Newcastle United recede.
Martin Bain, the Rangers chief executive, will meet Pierre-Fanfan and his agent in the French capital this afternoon to finalise the details of a three-year contract. The 29-year-old signed a similar deal with PSG last season but a loophole in the contract has enabled Rangers to sign him for free. PSG had initially wanted £2.5m for him.
The Herald understands Gordon Strachan was offered the player weeks before Rangers for around £800,000 but Peter Lawwell, the Celtic chief executive, was unable to commit, having been locked in negotiations with Zurawski, while finalising the year-long loan of Jérémie Aliadière.
Pierre-Fanfan's representatives grew tired of Celtic's procrastination and informed Rangers of the player's availability via fax. It is the first psychological blow struck by Alex McLeish against Strachan, his former Aberdeen team-mate and now Old Firm adversary.
Pierre-Fanfan has a rich reputation in the French first division and had also attracted interest from West Ham United and Portsmouth.
Since no fee will be attached, the player will benefit from a considerable hike in wages at Ibrox, to about £20,000 per week.
He may yet form a defensive partnership with Sotirios Kyrgiakos next season. The Greek has threatened to take Panathinaikos to court to terminate his contract with the club and enable him to sign for anyone else on a Bosman.
Rangers have become increasingly frustrated by the impasse but David Murray, the Rangers chairman, last night reassured supporters that his promise of four new players would be delivered by the beginning of the season.
"I want the fans to know we are working around the clock and travelling throughout Europe to try to sign the players we want," said Murray. "The targets are of a high quality and we hope to have two within the next 10 days. I told the fans I would get them four players and I intend keeping my promise."
Brahim Hemdani, the former Marseille captain, was the first high-profile capture to arrive on a Bosman, followed swiftly by the arrival of Ian Murray from Hibernian. Agreement with Pierre-Fanfan has been reached in principle and Kyrgiakos would complete the quartet of bargain acquisitions.
The Pierre-Fanfan deal could even be be completed today which would enable him to undergo a swift medical before joining his new team-mates at their pre-season training camp in Toronto.
Pierre-Fanfan is already at an advanced stage of preparation for the French season, having taken part in PSG's preparations in Biarritz.
Born in Saint Pol sur Mer, Pierre-Fanfan first came to prominence at his local side US Dunkerque. His sturdy performances were coveted by Lens and he played a significant part of their surprise championship success in 1998 after signing for £5m. He was a pillar of the team during their surge to the UEFA Cup semi-final in season 1999-2000 and was subsequently signed by AS Monaco in 2001.
Pierre-Fanfan's career in the principality was ruined by a serious knee injury and compounded by ankle and thigh problems. Unable to secure a regular starting place, he was sent on a season-long loan to PSG two years ago and after making an immediate impact signed a three-year contract last July.
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Your quite right guys it was indeed 5 goals Kenny Miller scored in the one game, was it not against Dundee United at Ibrox? As far as I can recall he was dropped for the next Rangers game.
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Kojo...
I fail to see, if in a past submission I labelled Mr. MILLER as a mere Journeyman.... what that observation has anything to do with what I am offering now.
Kojo, what this has to do with your current opinion is simple. It displays a singular lack of critical thought and a preponderance to simply echo the opinions of the power brokers within Celtic Park. To me, it looks like you based your opinion on Kenneth Miller firstly on Paul67's (sadly) innaccurate information that Celtic had no intention of signing this player. When it became apparent Celtic were interested? You flip-flopped, and apparently, simply at the behest of Gordon Strachan.
It's your right to change to change your mind, but I'd be interested to read what your cognative process for this volte face was. It's not as if he's played any games of football in the intervening time.
You are clearly an intelligent person with plenty to offer in the way of shining a positive light on the goings on at Celtic Park, why adopt someone elses opinion? Why should anyone take your "Stan the Journeyman" comments seriously when you are displaying such a partisan approach to the comings and goings.
I might be an annoying, pessimistic pain, but my opinions are just that, based on the events unfolding around me. Further, such a "see no evil" approach will damage Celtic.
You asked me once before why I was looking back, and said you only look forward. I'll tell you why I look back - To try and learn from our past mistakes. Liam Brady, John Barnes, Lou Macari. The historical markers are there, showing us where we went wrong. I fear we are blundering into the same stormy waters again with Gordon Strachan.
Kenny Miller, From journeyman to genius. Indeed. And all in the space of a couple of days. As we return to the bad old days, I hope you remind yourself of these words.
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NumptyBhoy, it was St.Mirren I think.
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Why is our new defender writing articles like that with Darryl Clovenhoof?
