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must be a 1st top 10?
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On the podium at last
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That would be 2nd then....
best so far..
Lubo.
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1st ???
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Surely a victory at Fir Park is an expectation? Then again the same could be said for Clyde and Artmedia.
Strachan will be judged at the end the year by most fans I think. He has to redress the Euro embarrassment to gain any credibility. I hope he does it.
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podium will do.
Well done Cultsboy, Star for a day.
Lubo.
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Oh well, it was close!
Congrats Cultsbhoy.
By the time we kick off on Sunday there's every chance the gap at the top will be down to 4 points. A victory is a must, a victory with a good defence display might help to remove some the doubts that have began to creep in to some recently.
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I hear that the lad Halmosi will not be joining us.
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As I've said - WGS will be judged at the end of 2006 when he will have redressed Euro shame hopefully. If he has sold KM for a lucrative profit (I nurture the delusion that this is the real plan!!) and retained Stan in the process - I will take back all my condemnation and even lead the 'Save WGS campaign' should he ever come under threat threafter!!
Somehow I don't think so.....
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well i stopped to read the article first!
Hope yous sad sacks are happy.
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Good point Paul,
Who would have thought after Artmedia and Motherwell at the start of the season that we would be in this position.
WGS has done better than most of us believed. However, it can be argued that competition in the SPL has been weaker than expected.
There are tougher tests ahead for WGS and Celtic. A win on Sunday is important.
Lubo.
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went to type a really positive message there than caught myself on.
doing o.k. wgs could do a lot better though.
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I'm sure an absent Balde, departed Du Wei, suspended mcManus and injured Keane will not help WGS sleep any better this weekend.
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Anyone got any updates on the Keane hamstring rumour? If it's true, then we better have our shooting boots on for Sunday....5-4 to the Hoops!
Still, it's much more exciting than last year's drudgery. I ALMOST felt like not renewing the season book after watching that "entertainment".
Good luck to young Wilson on Sunday.
TTTT
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Cultsbhoy can I ask what age you are?
Your blinkered view of progress in Europe and nothing else matters reminds me of me back in the '80's longing for a quarter final to look forward to after christmas. My first Euro tie was Ajax 2-2.
Sadly the 80's and 90's came and went without such a night.
You are right to point to Europe as the be all but I must say sadly 2001-04 were exceptional years rather than the norm.
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"Irrespective of his abilities as a football manager, Gordon Strachan was tested as a man in the weeks that followed."
Paul67's words.
I've often wondered why in the FIRST real challenge that he faced, was John Barnes not cut some slack? Poor management by MacDonald & Dalglish? Or other reasons.
Why bring this up? Well, compare & contrast:
Barnes's team is papped out out of the Scottish Cup, and dressing-room problems become patent;
WGS's team is papped out of the Champions' League, and dressing-room problems become apparent.
If Bratislava was the making of WGS,
Why, if anyone out there knows, was Barnes not given the opportunity to turn the ship around?
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Paul
I notice that the official site is mentioning the Keane injury and the fact that Varga might not be ready. It is even suggesting Mark Wilson in central defence!
We could be looking at a defence on Sunday of Telfer Virgo Wilson Wallace.
My money's on 5-4 to Celtic!
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Three points on Sunday essential, performance not important. Given recent results at that dive a 1-0 will suffice.
Any further news on Keane. I have a suspicion Varga may be recalled.
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martinobhoy - that's an omen! We better check out the odds for 5-4. Double it with Virgo first scorer? :-)
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Varga? Can WGS really go and ask a player he has totally discarded.
I don't think we can. If Keane is unfit we have a serious problem. A month loan deal for some other clubs cast off may be the only solution.
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TTTT
Just checked on the Ladbrokes website.
475-1 for that double.
Worth a quid?
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Mikeybhoy,
If he's having a sleepless night, it's hard to have any sympathy.
We've known for months Bobo would be away and it was inevitable that McManus would eventually get suspended with the way he plays the game.
As for Du Wei, he was there for 5 months and only allowed 45 minutes of first team action. If he's been deemed not good enough for the first team, surely this should have been established during those months of coaching and an alternative plan put in place.
I just hope he's spending his night coming up with a plan to ensure a win on Sunday!
Yes, WGS has turned things round since that first day at Fir Park, but Lubo makes a valid point, the competition has at times been weaker than expected.
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Is Keane out with a hamstring injury?
If this is the case, then questions should be asked of the current training methods.
Too many players are falling to the same type of injury.
Focusing on physical fitness at the risk of properly warming up and down could be the cause of the recent injury list.
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martinobhoy - Ladbrokes (magig sign) being as tight as ever!!
I'm sure that we'll get better odds from Paddy Power or Willie Hill. Maybe a fiver.
Does a Virgo own goal count as first scorer?
Well, Kojo - yer man ADAM is about to come of age. Any comments?!
TTTT
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TTTT
They are being very tight but then as the saying goes who ever saw a poor bookmaker?
Adam is only 12-1 to be the first goalscorer even though he's hardly ever played!
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After the start to the season we had, you have got to give WGS some credit. He has stuck to his guns and turned things round, its not been pretty at times but the fact is we are top of the league and seven points clear.
The fact that the currant buns have been rubbish this season, has IMO definately bought him some breathing space. I dont think the support would have been so tolerant if they were above us in the league.
I think he has done a reasonable job so far, but as MON once said the huns are the benchmark, this season he has been fortunate they haven't been. yours John-b or should that be Barota.
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Senor Barota - WGS job is hard enough, but imagine if we had actually won in Seville and he had to break up the remnants of THAT team!
A lesser version of the Tommy Doc situation at Old Trafford?! How did that turn out......
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Sorry TimOTay just noticed that you posed the question about training methods in light of recent injuries on last thread.
Apologies also if anyone else has posted this link
compaaring our two great 25's.
Brought a tear to my eye watching Lubo again
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Kojo :-
"We're In EURO and YOU ARE NO!"
Sounds great to me!
So what is your beef wit' that?
No beef with me I find myself in 100% agreement with you ;)
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Cultsbhoy
Clyde,Artmedia and Motherwell were an embarrassment yes, but so was Motherwell on the final game last season...though Strachan wasn't incharge then.
If Stan doesn't want to stay and wants to give Spain,England,Italy a try, what then?
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Inside Write
After far too many beers in the bars of Edinburgh tonight I was ready to go to bed but I'm glad I stayed up to watch your Lubo and Naka link.
I love Henrik but in my opinion Lubo was the greatest footballer I've seen wearing the Hoops. I watch him now and I still cant tell whether he favoured his left or right foot. Even with someone like Maradona, you can tell favoured his left foot.
We were truly blessed that he spent some of his career in Paradise.
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Corpachbhoy 1:26 AM,
With all due respect,
"the fact that no other team has touched him with a barge-pole speaks volumes" .. about what and whom?
JB (black and English, no prior managerial experience) costs CF tuppence ha'penny as a result of ICT game, and finds out who's for him and who's agin ....
WGS (white and Scottish, limited prior managerial experience) learns the same lesson in CL at the cost of .... 10 MILLION?
For the avoidance of doubt, CFC's conduct with WGS has been nothing less than admirable, IMO.
I refer you to my original question: why is WGS capable of learning how to cope with hard questions, but not JB?
Maybe JB, to paraphrase you, just didn't have what it takes.
Your answer doesn't persuade me.
The owls are in the woods!
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Off to the hammock.
Two quick points:
1. PJBhoynyc last night's superb Miller's Crossing post was picked up today; see CQN's Quick Posts' also Roy Keane = Gabriel B as T Reagan:
Heart? What Heart?
also: best version of Danny Boy ever.
2. Which Celtic-supporting ex=SPL player may well be a blood relative of Mohammed Ali?
Answer tomorrow circa 22:30 GMT - if not before!
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TTTT, its only my opinion but if we had won in Seville, I think MON would have broke the team up sooner. That would have allowed him to get rid of the fringe players quicker thus releasing funds, add a few quid from the board and he would have rebuilt with better players,
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In honour of ESTADIO he has gave us so much i thought he deserved a little in return.
hope you like it big man.
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we might be slow to catch on with Bosmans but two in the space of two days is very encouraging.
I hope these early summer captures are an idication of our future intent.
Q: What happened to the big splash of cash from `fc dignity?
Is big feck getting paid to contradict scotland if not the worlds foremost business brain?
(for eck)
sign language
Open hands move up and down, then index fingers touch and move apart.
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Paul67
Your article at the top of this thread prompted me to have a scan of comments during and after the last outing to Motherwell...
Sorry Paul but although there were many reactionaries calling for his head, there were many thoughtful and regular posters who put things in the proper perspective. Many contributors to CQN have taken the long view and recognise this as a season of change. ENORMOUS CHANGE.... (Sorry 'transition' has become too hackneyed a phrase and its true meaning lost on some).
The manager said it himself today when pointing out the twin track approach required in the current climate... There may well be more bumps in the road as he strives towards his own personal vision for Celtic FC....While winning the 2005-2006 SPL with a hybrid team. Sorry but that is what it is.
Given the changes forced upon us this Sunday I think a win will be a HIGHLY significant result...I also believe winning the SPL this season will be an enormous achievement....One we will achieve...I hope when that moment occurs everyone will recognize it for what it will be...
An Enormous Achievement...
KTF
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What-no nightshift ?
No HAIL !HAIL ! SINGAPORE CELT is going for a beer ?
I,m off t,mill then.......
noel.
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If a poster posts and noboby reads was it ever writen?
Looks like all is quiet in the Dear Green Place.
Ok I am off to bed - Christening the young pup Sanfran_Tic Jnr. in the morn...still lots to do.
See the forward planning in play here.
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Noel sorry I was making a cuppa....don't tell Big P we left the place unattended.
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Supercelt
Hrrmm, hrrmm. Cough, cough, shufle, shuffle.....hrrmm. Me next?
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Kojo / Paul67
Just watching the MLS draft on TV. Do you know the rules here re: grabbing these guys before they hit the MLS? Is it poss or are they bound by this that piont? Has our scouting network access to the show/ overall process? These guys are very very good 17-18 yrs old.
I am still a little fuzzy on how it all works. I think the MLS not the teams own the players. It is an odd setup.
I still think someone should look at the Mexican national team / league......some fantastic players...lower expectations regarding emoluments too I would wager. Since there is no established heritage in gracing Euro fields...Hugo Sanchez aside….therfore no baseline wage outside Mexico…
Kojo anything on the Gaucho?
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"Bueller? Bueller?
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PJBhoynyc
I was at motherwell the first time and have me tickets for tomorrow and i agree we MUST to win. However i have to disagree that winning this league this year is an enrormous achievement.
It has to be the least expected after spending 7 million during the close season and playing against the worst huns team in over a hundred years.
Hearts sacked the best manager in scotland and replaced them with a man with a lot to prove in many ways.
Hibs have a team whilst young and talanted with a tendency to make jeckl and hyde look a stable individual.
The rest are dross full of journymen suitable for english Division 2.
In short we are up against crap teams in a crap league.
It's harsh but if Strachan does not win this league he will be sacked and rightly so.
That said i hope and pray we do win and Stachan leads us into Europe where he owes us one.
Anyway come on the hoops and have a good day all.
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Supercelt 2.01am
Thankyou!
I am rendered speechless!
Now that is an ambition many have aspired to and only one has now realised!
Estadio
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Corpachbhoy, comment deleted for language violation. Remember children read Celtic Quick News.
John Boyle O’Reilly, I think John Barnes was doomed from early on. The whole picture was not looking right, from McDonald to Dalglish to Barnes. The way money had been spent and the ‘football direction’ from the Director of Football was clearly wasteful.
Inverness was a clear opportunity to sort the problem out for the board, one they may have been looking out for anyway.
Good call PJBhoynyc.
SanFran Tic, very best wishes for the Christening.
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estadio, its the least we could do.
san fran - one with the golden gate bridge?
or that colourful flag that is associated with your city?
;-)
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Nice to hear Kirsty McCabe, the weather girl on BBC1, refer to Ibrox Park as 'Castle Greyskull' this morning at 8:58am on her weather forcast about the weather expectations for football matches today. A Tim at the BBC,it won't last!
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Nice to hear Kirsty McCabe, the weather girl on BBC1, refer to Ibrox Park as 'Castle Greyskull' this morning at 8:58am on her weather forcast about the weather expectations for football matches today. A Tim at the BBC,it won't last!
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gmg - i dont believe you.
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supercelt - I could barely believe it myself. But unless my ears deceived me she saidsomething like "A fair chance of rain over 'Castle Greyskull' in Glasgow this afternoon..." and then onto other football matches. I must admit I wasn't paying full attention but whe you hear 'Castle Greyskull' said on TV in a Scottish accent it piques your attention.
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supercelt did you find a clip
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has there been anymore news on Halmosi
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Use some of the interest being gained from the £15m share money and pay Hibs £400 grand and get Caldwell now, it is an emergency situation with the defence so requires emergency measures.
No good waiting till the window has closed to find one of the others get injured or suspended and we have no cover.
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not yet mate but something like that will turn up sooner or later.
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On the FF site under the heading:
Cheeky beggar cow on BBC Weather !
" Did anyone just see the weather forecast on BBC1 just before 9.00.
Scottish burd (who's name I didn't catch) reading the weather. She then goes to Sport.
At Goodison it will be blah blah
At White Hart Lane it will be blah blah.
Now for Scotland. If you are going to Castle Greyskull you better wrap up.
Obviously a beggar!
What surprises me was that she was very well spoken. Not a normal beggar trait.
Well spoken she may be but obviously thick.
Greyskull! Home of the good guys.
GIRUY Beeeatch "
Lovely...
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Nice to see someone else saw the good lady Kirsty call Ibrox 'Castle Greyskull'. I see she was pulled from the 9:30am weather broadcast and her replacement didn't mention football only rugby!
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jotters methinks
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Must go shower now...
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Whats Kirsty McCabe doing tomorrow around 2pm? -
can she play in defence?
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we are all doomed, great to see the beeb has one tim, the lovely Asmah Mir on 5 live is also an avowed tim, mentions Henke as her all time hero on the beeb website
Hail Hail
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details of the lovely fragrant Kristy, cult hero in the space of 30 seconds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweather/forecasters/kirstymccabe.shtml
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Is she a center back?
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Did she realy say castle greyskull or was she just in the room when someoneelse said it
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Just been sent Scotlands official strip for the World cup in Germany
Scotland Strip
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Bazza67
I'd put Aasmah http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/presenters/mir_biog.shtml
in centre mid. What's the chances of a Celts media 11?
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From the previous thread:
Kojo - I have no firm knowledge of the whereabouts of Peter Halmosi. The plan, as I understand, was that he would return to Hungary on Friday, whether he signed for Celtic or not. I suspect (and hope) that the lack of any announcement from Celtic means that the deal is still alive and that we are merely witnessing a bout of brinksmanship. I recall the summer signing of our Polish striker followed a similar path and I don't need to tell you how tough PL is in the negotiation stakes - a very good man to have managing our financial affairs.
Timmy 7 - Becketts will certainly show the next OF match. Get in touch closer to the time and we can hook up on the day of the match.
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just need a striker!!!!
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Kirsty McCabe
I bet she looks good on the dance floor
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Dominik Diamond as our pacy winger?
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Kirsty dont you know these people have no sense of humour, i fear the worst!
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Apparently the Halmosi deal isn't going too well based on this report in The Telegraph http://sport.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/sport/2006/01/21/sfnsco21.xml Although a pinch of salt might be required considering the source of the piece!
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Sorry I should have hotlinked that Telegraph article about Halmasi.
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Last year we lost the league. Now so-called Celtic fans are demanding we win it or they will turn on the manager. Shameful. I get the feeling some of these bitches want Strachan to fail. Do they not realise that means that we all club, team and supporters all lose out too? Support the team not your “I told you so agenda”.
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From the Telegraph article, available above:
Meanwhile, Hungarian international Peter Halmosi has returned home after Celtic refused to pay the £1 million fee his club, Debreceni, wanted for him. "Their owner is being completely unreasonable," Halmosi's English agent, Andy Kilner, said. "Gordon wanted the lad and Peter wanted to move but it's dead in the water as it stands."
From experience, I won't be surprised if Debrecen start increasing the price on Halmosi (a strange tactic I've encountered whilst negotiating with Hungarians) before they realise they're dealing with people who've been round the block a few times and have the scars to prove it.
There is a widely held view in Hungary that the Scots are tight-fisted (so much so that "Skot" is an adjective for mean and miserable). This may inform the Debrecen position and they may simply be angling for the best possible deal they can get. I'm certain that they would appreciate the income - Hungarian soccer is not at all well funded, with low attendances and poor television revenues, that make the SPL seem positively lucrative. They will also view Celtic as a giant club capable of splashing the cash.
If we remain focused on how the transfer fee will be divided between the interested parties, I'm sure we'll be able to reach a deal. From what I understand, Halmosi is really up for this move (and who wouldn't be in his position) and the agents also want to push through the deal.
I don't think this is the last we'll hear about Halmosi.
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Skótok voltak a skótok: a Celtic sokallta a labdarúgó másfél millió eurós vételárát.
Amusing headline from Hungary's major sports newspaper - it translates as, The Scottish were Scottish.
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Paul 67
Your assertion that " even the more positively disposed among us could only sight the pragmatic problems of sacking a manager two games into a season" ignores the fact that there were many of us who recognised at the time that the right man was in place to carry out the major surgery required at the club and that whatever the intervening mishaps he would lead us through to a bright future. It was just simply the fact then that amongst the cacophany of grief following "Black Sunday" and Artmedia that those voices were not heard or were ignored. There has been an unfortunate similar reaction to the signing of Kenny Miller.
Regrettably, as I said at the time the CQN editorial stance was not helping. Damned by faint praise came to mind.
Fortunately time has begun to prove that this work in progress is well worth persevering with and regardless of any intervening hiccough the end result will please. Of that I have no doubt and repeat very firmly that my colours are firmly pinned to the WGS mast whatever the result on Sunday.
A victory at Fir Park on Sunday would be nice but it would be better on your part I believe to assert that regardless of the result WGS has shown enough so far to indicate Celtic will become a formidable team under the present manager.
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MikeyBhoy (12:36am)
Identity theft is a serious crime. Expect a visit from the cyber police
MikeyBhoy (the original one)
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Your post, Ian, bears out what I was saying last night at 5.30.Although I was right I'm not particularly happy about it as he seemed a good un.Same source said RK out 4-6 weeks.Reaaly do hope that is a load of b*******
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I think the Weather girl for the BBC should be fast-tracked to legendary Celtic hall of fame status, or even sainthood - she quite possibly has sacrificed her career for a little dig at Sketeltor and his minions.
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John H
Re. your post on the KDS site at 9.32pm last night - it's pretty sad you find that so funny. Perhaps you could share the laugh here on CQN?
No, didn't think you would.
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Malone19 Perhaps Dontbratbackinanger could get Kirsty to do the weather forecast at the end of his posts?
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I have just read the Quick News item re Varga and Agathe.The managers comments brought to mind a story I heard about Bill Shankly.A player whose name escapes me said that if a player was out injured that Shanly would cut him dead if they met .This apparently was his way of making the player get back to training asap.At any rate I take it from the manager`s remarks that the idea of sending Agathe to train with the kids has occured to him ===it sounds to me as though he is seriously cheesed off with him
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To the posters this morning re the Weather girl's comments.
I watched it too. Could not believe it.
"If you are going to Castle Greyskull you better wrap up"
Brilliant.
Lubo.
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Bengal Lancer wouldn't i.My views on Kojo's drivel are well documented.He did seem a bit non-plussed about the news the deal was dead.I was amused.So??
I visit both sites and enjoy both sites very much.
A worrying trend on this site is personal attacks on peope who do not toe the party line on given article.
I have heated debates with people on KDS who would get rid of WG in a minute.On the whole I am very pleased with his progress BUT if on any occasion I disagree with one of his moves or tactic then surely I should be allowed to say sowithout incuring ridiclue from Kojo/Paul/The Board sycophants.
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Just reading over all the Halmosi stuff, and I am moved to pose this question: Is the players agent slagging Celtic, or the Debrecen club chairman?
Has something been lost in translation perhaps, or are we just unwilling to stump up that kind of cash for a player who according to some reports is out of contract in the summer? Can someone confirm that this is the case?
Like a lot of you, I was also intruiged to read about Kirsty McCabe, and I hope that her little jibe has not cost her her job. Go on girl!!
BTW: Strachan was immense last night on CelticTV when talking about the Scottish press and their role in the Du Wei situation. He accussed them of naked racism - and said that they have shamed the country. Keep The Faith has a rather good article on it for anyone who wants the exact quotes.
http://www.keep-the-faith.net/index.htm
This club of ours, which used to take so much of this stuff on the chin, has become very effective at striking back against the media when they act in such a fashion. Add to this Peter Lovenkrands claims yesterday that the story about him being attacked is FOUR YEARS OLD and you see the way they will twist anything. Strachan, lets not forget, has never been part of the Old Firm madness, and when he was first appointed I wondered, on these boards, how he would cope with the diabolical behaviour of the media in this country. MON was always in danger of being portrayed as a paranoid "Celtic man" because of his background - but I wondered how the press would deal with a guy like WGS when he found out what they were about and called them out on it.
And he is demolishing them. Sensational, wee man. Sensational.
Much credit should go to the Celtic fans themselves, of course, like this website and others, the Association and the indepedent groups for the way in which they too monitor the press these days and try to get the truth out there.
The future's bright. The future's Green and White!!
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LONG TERM READER TOP BLOG!!!
the lady that does the financial / city reports on radio 5 is a big tim also :-)
great site for the football financial gossip but the transfer gossip is below average on this, otherwise, top site.
on that note: PAUL could you advise what difference, if any, the old firm place on paradise v. castle greyskull in their respective accounts.
if someone could answer then ill tell you who paul hartley is signing for :-)
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To be a pedant- Ibrox is actually Snake Mountain.He-man lived in Castle Greyskull.
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John I am aware of keep the faith and etims but not KDS--could you provide full name of site so i can logon--thanks
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WWW.kerrydalestreet.co.uk.
Great site as is this one.No reason for the two to be mutually exclusive.Very well moderated.No sectarianism or swearing allowed.
John.
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John---Many thanks --like you I like to hear a broad spectrum of opinion
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Avid readers of "Fascist Fascist" at BBC Radio Scotland - what a surprise!
Kirsty will be infamous by the time the rags come out tomorrow morning.
Still, no such thing as bad publicity!
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On the Halmosi deal, I understood the price to be £700,000 or 1 million euros.
It would seem Celtic were not prepared to pay the inflated price of £1million.
I think Ian is on the money when he says the negos are not over yet.
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I find keep the faiths hun obsession a bit wearing and equally KDS is a bit OTT re the moderation
stick to CQN for a grown up site
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Avid readers of FF at BBC Radio Scotland - what a surprise!
Kirsty will be infamous by the time the rags come out tomorrow morning.
Still, no such thing as bad publicity!
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The Kirsty McCabe thing this morning reminded me of listening to Radio Five Live 3 or 4 years ago when Celtic first played Fulham in a pre-season friendly.
Victoria Derbyshire was asked what she was up to at the weekend and she replied she had went to watch Fulham and Celtic. The other presenter then said "I didn't know you were a Fulham fan", to which Victoria replied along the lines of "I'm not, I've always wanted to see Celtic live to see if it's as good as everyone says - and it was wonderful. Now I know why." She also added that the bit of Irish in her family background made her feel right at home among the Celtic supporters.
From then on Victoria Derbyshire could do no wrong in my book.
Sexy voice as well.
Kirsty may have started something here.....
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Is there naeb'dy here?
Ach well then, I'll no' bother postin' anyhin then.
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If it's true Pierre put the kibosh on the Halmosi deal when we desperately need a left back and WGS wanted him – a wee bit alarming!!
Just told Kirstie McL (my daughter) about Kirsty McC, she loved it!!
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see youse a' later. then
Ta Ta!!
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did someone hear something...................?
nah, me neither.
;-)
whats eveyones naps for todays football?
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TODAYS WEATHER
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choirboy
where do you come from?
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Just been reported on Radio Scotland that a Celtic Spokesman has said that RK will not play tomorrow, but will only be out for one or two weeks.
He MAY be available for Dundee United and will definitely be fit if selected for the 'Temple of Doom' game.
The last phrase is my translation
Jim Traynor now sounds very depressed as he had trailed his your call bait with RK's long term non-availability!
BonsaiCSC
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Kevtic 12.43
I'm 38 and remember the anticlimax of the 80s and 90s well. I never considered that to be our true level, more a case of failing to maximise potential on and off the field. Then history took a swing for the better - Fergus then Mon and suddenly we are where I feel we should be - contesting Europes, 2nd level cup.
Now I fear we are regressing back to the era of anti-climax and dissapointment. Sorry I can't be happy about that, if I could I'd be welcomed in to the CQN 'hug club' happy that we are winning a two horse race year in and year out.
I know Celtic can do better and reaching Seville proved that to me.
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GMG What is so surprising about someone from our national brodcaster knowing that the forces of good reside in Greyskull, hopefully the east end of the city will becovered by the forecast for snake mountain :)
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RK is only going to be out for ten days at most
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has anyone watched the LUBO vs NAKA vid on KDS
CLASS
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I fancy Killie to take a point from the Jammed Farts today, no Pressley or Skacel.
Also can i state Chic Young is an odious,fawning toadie. you really are a disgusting sicophantic(sp) horrible little man.
Get bent.
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At 12:58 PM, James Forrest
In all the reports I've read it's been stated that Halmosi has one year left on his deal with Debrecen.
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Supercelt;
Can't imagine this site without your input.
Now,back into the corner!
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hoopybhoy1888
Posted a link to it last night here
it is again for anyone who missed it.
That sunny day at Castle Greyskull was a great day for all Tims. Watching The Gift from God run amock with them and see wee Shaun make his debut.
Cant wait till we can do another comparison between the number 25's only this time comparing Celtic goals
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Hoopybhoy or Supercelt
Give us a link to Lubo Vs Naka
thanks.
JonG
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CQN should start an immediate campaign to get Kirst McCabe sainthood status. And while I'm at it, a V.C. for bravery above and beyond the call of duty in face of the enemy. yours John-b.
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At 1:58 PM, Chairbhoy
My guess is that Piere and WGS are at one on the Halmosi deal. I suspect that it's the owner of the Hungarian club who is angling for more cash or better payment terms.
Earlier in the week Halmosi's Hungarian agent was at pains to stress that the quoted figure of 1.5 million Euros was not a realistic transfer fee and he thought that a figure of half that amount would be enough to secure his signature. This was widely reported.
If, as reported, a fee had been agreed between Celtic and Debrecen then something may have changed. It could be that Celtic don't think he's worth the amount orginally agreed or Debrecen have decided to up the fee. However, the way in which payments are structured is a more likely stumbling block at this point in proceedings. I could imagine Debrecen want most of the money up front whilst Celtic would like to have some clauses that offer protection against the guy turning out to be a dud. We've all seen good players failing to settle in and I think Piere and WGS understand this risk as witnessed by the Du Wei situation. If they are not happy with the deal on offer then they are right to hold out until they are satisfied. I think this is an approach that we should be commned them for, however much we need that left-back spot filled.
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If i was five years younger....see that Kirsty Mccabe!!!!
Tomorrow:
Boruc
Telfer Virgo Varga Wallace
Naka Wilson Petrov Lennon Maloney
Hartson.
I think he will go with five in the middle to strangle the midfield area,and help keep pressure off the untried defence.
Lennon will sit in front of the centre backs and Wilson and Stan will be the engine room,up and down in support of where needed.
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Hoopybhoy the Lubo/Naka link is on this thread posted by inside write @1.23am
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Ian
Your contribution on the Halmosi situation is great stuff. Many thanks. Be nice if we could have an Ian all over the footballing world - but then we probably do.
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Jon G, if I was 5yrs younger, see that Flora bird.......ok then, see that Thora Hird..
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For a difficult away match I quite like your take on the formation. I wonder though if he might just bring Mo Camara back in at full back for this game as I reckon we'll be expecting Motherwell to use Jim Hamilton on the flank to pressurise Ross Wallace with Scott Mac Donald running in the channel for the flick-ons.
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Loud and clear Bobby Russell!
Tomorrow,the game plan should be to put a strangle hold on midfield.
In doing so we would restict M'well to long balls.
We could then dictate the tempo of the game and make them do all the running with some good possesion play.
Are you listening WGS?
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1-0 Rangers,. Boyd
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JonG, I'm not sure a 4-5-1 is in Gordy's thoughts, although your argument is compelling. But if we were to go with just the one up top, I'd rather have someone a bit more mobile than BBJ. Beattie would be ideal stature wise (for holding the ball up), but as he's injured, maybe it's time for Magic to show us how he can lead the line.
However, I'd personally still rather go with two up front, because unless anyone's confident we can keep a clean sheet, we probably need that extra bit of bite up front to get the points.
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At 3:01 PM, Derbyshirebhoy
Thanks Derbyshirebhoy, it's great to be able to offer a persepective from Hungary. I've been in Budapest for 15 years and Celtic have never, to my knowledge, been linked to a Hungarian player. Furthermore, they've only played one Hungarian side (MTK) in that time, ironically coming right after Seville to the annoyance of my brother who felt obliged to make the trip out here.
I mentioned earlier that I used to report on Hungarian football for a local expatriate newspaper. However, after the 1994 World Cup in the US, I became somewhat disillusioned with the quality of the football played here - it was attrocious and I subsequently gave up watching it. It's a shame as otherwise I'd be able to give a better account of Halmosi's abilities.
For the record, Hungarian football has improved somewhat in recent years but with the advent of satellite televison and Channel 67, I much prefer watching the bhoys. That said, I'd be happy if Halmosi signs, it would further encourage my girlfriend's boy to follow the bhoys. I took him to the aforementioned MTK match and on Boxing Day he made his first trip to Celtic Park for the Livingston match. Perhaps it's a sign of a relationship blossoming between Celtic and the Hungarians:)
I'll continue to keep you all posted to the best of my ability on developments out here.
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You make a good point about Magic,Matt.
Although i think WGS favours BBJ in that role.
I see this as the best way forward as we are distinctly understrength in the centre of defence.
However,WGS is the manager,and it will be interesting to see which line up and which formation he favours.
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Ian-in-Budapest.
Hail Hail!
Can you shed any light on Halmosi's correct position?
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My dear friend, ianinbudapest,
By the way,on which side of the river are you residing..... Buda or Pest?
I know all about the Hungarian, belief in the ingrained parsimony and parcity of resources,whenever the Scots are in the picture.
Not one to overlook a great,SEGUE..
LUGOSI BELA, always claimed the SCOTS were the Original Bloodsuckers........ I will leave it at that!
I will suspend both my credence and skepticism, in this evolving tale,until I hear the Rustle of Luigi's Wings.
Thank you for your input.
On another,and more contemporary note........
My Dear Friend, TOMMY TWISTS etc.etc.
MY ADAM, should he play, will distinguish himself with honor.
I am told that the powers that be, are VERY PLEASED WITH HIS RECOVERY, mostly in his RECUPERATION from the Memory of the ATROCIOUS AND Mind SHATTERING MURDER of HIS FATHER.....
For some reason, this fact has NEVER BEEN CONSIDERED, when others have been wearing their Critic's Hats,regarding ADAM'S INTERMITTENT SIGHTINGS IN THE FIRST ELEVEN.
If you consider what this young man has faced in the onslaught to his Psyche, during the past Six Months, plus of course... the PHYSICAL aspect as well...... WELL...WELL......
I hope that He ASTONISHES his Critics and CONFOUNDS his Avid DETRACTORS...... and sorry to say, there are quite a few on this VERY SITE.
Adam, if you read this..... remember there a at least TWO HEARTS that beat for ye!
Go, GETTEM,KID!!!
Motherwell 0 Celtic 18
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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At 3:32 PM, JonG
Halmosi plays on the left side and his position is usually dependent upon the quality of the opposition. Against better sides he plays left-back and against weaker sides he's pushed forward into midfield. This would appear to match Strachan's requirements of a full-back who can push forward when needed.
Yesterday I posted an article that contained a photgraph of Halmosi wearing the no 3. shirt for Hungary. I also believe he played in this position when Debrecen met Man utd in the CL.
This has all the signs of very good scouting but I can understand any caution on the part of the Celtic coaching staff. With the exceptions of Gere at West Brom, who is a fantastic player, Lisztes in the Bundesliga, and the Crystal Palace keeper, Hungarian players have not made much impact when playing abroad. Of course, there was a guy called Puskas who made a bit of an impression playing for Real Madrid but that was during an era when the Magyars where truly exceptional. Anyone recall England 3 Hungary 6, the former's first ever defeat by an overseas side at Wembley? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/football_focus/3224468.stm).
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1-o killie come on!!!
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Kojo, I live on the Pest side not too far from the Nepstadion, now appropriately re-named the Puskas Ferenc Stadion. Anyone who made it out for the CL qualifier against MTK will recognise the pictures on the following link:
http://www.stadiumguide.com/puskas.htm
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livi nearly scored!!!
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30 secs played in the second half, and it's Killie 1 Hearts 0.
should hopefully take some pressure off for tomorrow...
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1-1liviv yesssssssss!!!
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come on Lambo!
ps sorry for leaving you out om best XI of the decade,in retrospect i would have you in just ahead of stan.
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Livvy HAVE equalised. 1 all at Castle Greyskull :D
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Rangers 1 Livi 1
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livi equiliser
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Killie 1 Hearts 0
Rangers 1 Livie 1
Hee Hee Hee!
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ach. 2-1 to the snake mountaineers.
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My dear friend, Ianinbudapest,
I has been great talkin'
My favorite Hungarian told me about a rivalry between the two veritable cities,it stuck in my memory. She said that Buda was THE CITY.
Her sister, Sarah.....that is the English translation of her name....I believe....... Thought otherwise...... Both of them always were at it Hammer and Tongs, every time we chatted, after Mass .....at THE GOOD SHEPHERD....
Happy days,indeed!
So,so (?) long, Ian....
Before I go.......I was just shown a picture of the Player in question's, Home Ground...... I honestly could not term it a STADIUM..... Sure looked run-down and Mousy!
I would say that his club would defo need every penny, that they could squeeze, from the CELTIC COFFERS!
Motherwell0 Celtic 19
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Cheers Paul67 - Hectic here this morn. I am getting a hard stare right now. Better log off. Things to do.
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SAN FRAN TIC
have a good day mate.
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Supercelt. That is cool. I think I will make that my new screensaver.
I am glad you stayed away from the rainbow flag. All those asses up in the air I will assume is coincidental.
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Watching the Brum v Portsmouth game on TV Sutty playing very well and picked out for praise at half time.
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Kojo, Buda is the original settlement and is both green and hilly. It is consequently favoured for its air quality and is considered ideal for those who aspire to a more laid back style of living.
Pest on the other hand represents the heart of the city and it is where almost everything happens in terms of business and entertainment.
In this day and age of car travel, an interesting paradox emerges. People live in Buda in the belief it is less stressful but everyday most of them form a long and congested line of traffic to head across the river to their work places in Pest.
I live in Pest, work in Buda and commute by bicycle but I'm uncertain as to what this means.
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Kojo at 3.51
Re Adam Virgo
That's dreadful. I was completely unaware of that which seems highly unusual considering the media coverage of almost anything from which they can make a story. I'm quite stunned.
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1-0 to killie FT
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Killie 1 Hearts 0 Relax Bhoys.
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My dear friend, DerbyshireBhoy,
Believe,pal.........
It happened January20th,2005.
His father, Bob Virgo....... who was in very poor health..... answered the door at his home in Brighton.....
Two WHITE MEN, forced themselves over the threshold and beat him severely.
After ransacking the house they left.....I believe they took nothing....
Bob Virgo, died TWO WEEKS LATER.
Yes, it was a terrible blow,as one can imagine.
As far as I know.......
The Perpetrators were never apprehended and their identities are unknown,at this time.
Motherwell0 Celtic21
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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never knew that kojo.
Bad craic altogether.
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shocking news about adam's dad.
its a wonder he wants to play football at all.
why has the media centered on his failing to command a first team slot and never reported this?
even before i knew this news i was going to post about giving adam virgo, mark wilson and any others who may make their debut tomorrow all the encouragenent we can.
this is now a great chance to go 10 clear.
let's take it!!
Emjay
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Kojo @3.51,
I have to echo Derbyshirebhoy. That is tragic news about Virgo. God help the lad. Here's hoping he and whoever make up our defence tomorrow acquit themselves. Hearts losing eases the pressure a bit. I'm my usual nervy self already. By the way, I do hope we play Magic because he brings out the best in Nakamura and Maloney. Still, this all pales into insignificance with the news of Adam Virgo's loss.
I do hope we're still trying for the Hungarian. He seems the business. Appreciate Ian from Budapest's input.
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Kojo
I hope his move to Bhoys has helped him to re-focus and that he will go on to prove his doubters wrong. Regrettably there are to my mind too many who make instantaneous judgements and aren't slow to shout about it. which is not the best environment particularly for developing players.
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Kojo
You are the O'Sullivan of CQN.
I BELIEVE in Adam Virgo, and hope, like the rest of us, he plays a stormer tomorrow!
I NEVER look forward to the games at the Fir Park midden. Here's hoping we absolutely thrash the living daylights out of Motherwell, for two reasons:
1. 3 Points;
2. I hate them!
Hail! Hail!
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One of the pundits on Final Score has just slated Souness's signing of Boumsong who has "been absolutely dreadful".
Demonstrations outside St James. Could Souness be the next manager at Castle Greyskull/Snake Mountain*
* delete one
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£8m for Boumsong you ve got to question that, how much has the beast given to murray inc since he left!!!!
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The Beast will be the next manager of Clyde when Roberts takes Mcleish's job.
If he's lucky.
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My dear friends, Derbyshirebhoy,supercelt,emjay,Parkheadcumsalford,Charliedhog,and all of the other readers for their empathy.
I thank you for your Commiseration, in which I join, regarding the veil of tragedy......
which, as I have reported, has HAPPILY....EASED.... Time is a great healer.......
However,it must have been a very Daunting Time for the young lad, going to a New club,endevouring to
live up to the New Fans expectations, Missing all of Pre-Season Training, Recovering from a serious operation.......
QUITE A PLATEFUL...... DONTCHA THINK????
However, Now I am Certain that........
There a much more than TWO HEARTS a BEATING FOR THE LAD.......!!
Good for you guys......
The SPIRIT OF CELTIC SHINES THRO'
and HALO'S Your Comments.
Thanks.
Motherwell 0 Celtic 25
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Just to say all the best Adam Virgo tomorrow your an inspiration to man kind to overcome that situation abd hope you have a great game tomorrow and get on the score sheet god bless and good luck bhoy!
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The Boumsong issue and its like is for me a continuing endorsement of why I'm grateful to have the likes of a Peter Lawwell managing our financial affairs.
It also re-inforces my long held belief that in the larger markets such as the EPL its only too easy to spend large sums of money simply because its available. Value does not necessarily follow.
I've also always believed that its possible for Celtic to be able to build a side capable of competing on the European stage without spending enormous amounts of money on players. It is however essential to have a good youth policy a good coach in terms of the training ground and a good scouting network. That's exactly where Celtic have placed themselves and another reason why I fully endorse and will support Gordon Strachan as our manager.
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Kojo, first I heard about Adam. You never know, what you never know. Would explain his gradual exposure to the pressures of Celtic life.
Derbyshirebhoy, I suspect many in the media will not be aware of this, and others will not know whether to bring the lad this particular piece of baggage.
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Kirsty Mc Cabe- well done ghirl !
and
Victoria Derbyshire -
W A O W !
The credibility of this blog just took another massive leap....
noel.
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Link to AV's dad's story;-
http://archive.theargus.co.uk/2005/1/20/106142.html
TB
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My dear friend,ianinbudapest,
This being my final thought in the matter.......
Sounds to me, that dear EVA, had the Right Selection......
Sari, always liked the BRIGHT LIGHTS.
Thanks for your input,Ian,my lad.
You Have a Good Soul....
And I KNOW A GOOD SOUL, whenever I correspond wit' one.........
Just ask.....Sir Paul....
Motherwell 0 Celtic26
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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I'm sure Kirsty McCabe
has nothing to worry about as far as career prospects go.
Well said Kirsty!
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Paul67......
It was in the paper about Adams dad when he came to us at first.......remember reading about it......he was saying it's the hardest thing he has done moving up here and leaving his mother and sister.....and the deal hang in the balance......but his mother told him to come to us......i thought everyone knew this.
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My dear friend Derbyshirebhoy,
"And I couldn't have put it better,Myself,Stanley"
"You are Correctomundo,Ollie"
Pinkety,Pinkety on your submission,pal.......
ALL THE WAY!
Motherwell0 Celtic27
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Paul
We'll hope that they're being good souls about it and suppressing their normal natures. Hope it stays that way.
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Sad news indeed regarding Adam Virgo. I suffered a similar tradgedy and it rips your heart out.
As Kojo stated, time is a healer.
Here's hoping young Adam can seize his chance tomorrow. He is a centre-back, No doubt about that.
Whether it is Caldwell, Kennedy, McManus or Balde who partners him, (Kennedy would do just fine) the best is yet to come.
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Ian in pest, excellent background info on Hungary, thanks.
Kojo I recall Diane using the exact phrase.
Gerry, I really must start reading something other than Celtic Quick News.
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Derbyshirebhoy, I hope Victoria's no relation or Noel's in big trouble...again.)))
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One thing I'm concerned about for tomorrow is having a completely new back four, so while I am not a huge supporter of Telfer and agree with most that Wallace is not a left back, I would go with Telfer,Virgo,Varga, Wallace for this game.
Plus the midfielders have to do more to support the back 4 these days as the team struggles defensively.
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Noel,
Get a newsreader of your own. I found the CELTIC LOVING Victoria first.
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My dear friend, Canajunbhoy,
My Projected Celtic Team Selections, are Notorious for their Blue Sky Inaccuracies..... so. at the risk of being CORRECT, for once.......
How about a back four of:
Wilson,Virgo, Telfer, Wallace??
Motherwell 0 Celtic 3.
This is my serious PROGO.
Like it?
You can have it!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Ian in Budapest at 4.44
One thing it must mean is that you pedal fast to work in winter?
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Kojo - sorry to ask this but if it happenned Jan 2005 was the Virgo signing, a signing of convenience by two friends to get the lad away from the area for a period of time so he could concentrate solely on his football?
Did we really pay over £1m for him or are there various stages to the deal?
Obviously we all want what is best for player and club so sorry if this sounds a bit off.
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Poor thought Kevtic.
I am sure the brave Adam Virgo will deal with his trials head on.
Can't wait to see you run out Adam
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Sir Paul,
Very possible that that(?) phrase was a REPRISE.....
You must have gathered, that the Coterie...... are ALL of the Opinion that Life is ALL ABOUT SOULS.....and their Kith and Kin!
Our favourite anthem is......courtesy given to Ole Blue EYES....of course...
"That's Life,that's what all the People say,
You're Riding High in APRIL,
SHOT Down in May!
But I KNOW CELTIC'S Gonna Change that Tune,
When They're Back on TOP......
BACK ON TOP, IN JUNE!!!
Motherwell0 Celtic 3.
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Hey whitedoghunch if Virgo plays tomorrow and we get a decent result like the ten other players (and manager) he will be a hero after the Hearts defeat today!
It's a vaild question however as money is tight. Especially if Virgo cost over £1m considering we have signed four players in Jan for £500,000 combined!
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ian in budapest - we are over 7th - 9th April - can you suggest best place to watch the hoops?
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Anyone else having a mild panic attack at Kojo's musing that Telfer may play in the middle of defence.
Surely not!
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Kojo - I was also totally unaware of Adam's personal situation. All the more reason to cheer him on in the Hoops tomorrow.
Hoping for a solid performance from the big man. We'll need it!
Slainthe
or Iggishigidry (spelling?) as they say in Hungary.
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Folks the media covered the story about Adam's loss when he signed. It may be the media boycott is more effective than you think - but I definitely read about it in several publications including the Daily rangers
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At 6:50 PM, Hoopy7
Becketts, an Irish bar, is the best bet. Get in touch before you come and we can hook up.
At 6:35 PM, chennaiseabird
Unfortunately the fast and slow bike are consigned to the cellar at this time of year - too much ice and my left knee doesn't like the cold weather.
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kevtic (6.35pm)
I hear that the transfer fee between both clubs was nearer to £750k than £1.5m. Apparently this fee was leaked to the press by both clubs, so as to apease both sets of supporters. Brighton fans would have gone crazy if they found out that their prized asset left for anything less than £1.5m and Celtic supporters thought they were getting a decent young player for £1.5m.
I must admit, I never heard the story regarding his father.
I hope the lad does play tomorrow, not just for the latter
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My dear friend, Kevtic,
I hate to use a hackneyed retort......
BUT YOU MUST BE KIDDIN'??
......................
To get to your salient point...
I do not know how the figure of 1.5 Million is....well...figured.
I can only guess...
........
That that Figure, is a FIGMENT OF the PRESS CORPS' IMAGINATION.
But, should if be UNCANNILY CORRECT.. owing to a large DASH of SERENDIPITY.........
Then I, using the Un- Scientific approach, that when one conjectures, then ...WHY NOW MAKE IT SEEM A FAIR DEAL....
So....
How about...
500,000 Now.... and the Complement of the published amount, spread over .... 2 years....... depending on several expected and unexpected performances, by ADAM.
Sounds Fair to me??
That is my answer.
Motherwell0 Celtic 3
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Paul - why didn't you say you'd put up a new thread?
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So, finally, it's Viagra at the back. Should help us to stand up in defence.
Nobody thought it was funny the first time I posted it. Too many young folk on this site.
I hear that Kirsty McCabe is in trouble for a Castle Greyskull remark. So she should be. If she had her facts right, as all good but few Scottish journalists do, and if she had read this site last year sometime, she would have referred to Mount Doom.
Otherwise Kirsty, congratulations on having a personalilty and don't let the fish droppings (bass turds) grind you down.
Also just read that Jinky was not well enough to attend his son's wedding.
See you Jimmy, we love you.
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Ian
Come to Chennai. No ice, ever, lots of rivers to cross, deficit of Tims.
Lots of bikes too, all faster than the cars.
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Good Old Kirsty
I suppose that the Grand Master Badger's Dropping of Fascist Fascist will now demand that all their follow followers put a ban on anyone listening to the weather from now.
So now, as well as The Herald, The Bible, The Beano, anything that has got a Green and white cover, I suppose this has now been added to their growing list.
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ian - appreciate that mate - we are going over on a stag party that weekend and all of us will be looking to catch the match - killie away i think.
hoping to have a good time in budapest.
With regards Virgo - i felt the guy was not good enough, but to be fair to him it is still early days and if he has had family worries then a dip in form is understandable. I hope the lad does play tomorrow and puts in a commanding performance - however the reason strachan has left him out is not due to the family problems, its due to his form due to the family problems - perhaps a good performance and support from the stands will aid in the long healing process of losing a loved one. Heres hoping for both Adam and for Celtic.
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Re- Adam Virgo. He's a top bloke. I teach one of his mates at Brighton Uni who mentioned to the man himself that his economics teacher is Celtic daft. Last week I recieved an Adam Virgo shirt signed by all the players.
Ask anyone who knows anything about BHAFC and they will only say good things about Adam Virgo the person.
Great website; totally addicted
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shabhoy
No loose talk on here about our Vicky please.
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Vim Fuego
Good comment. Its always good to know that some of the heroes in the hoops maintain their grip on reality. With some it seems to disappear in their bulging wallets.
