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Is that a podium?
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A hattrick?
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Well played martybhoy - matchball is yours to keep ;-)
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Its hard to imagine a team with Roy Keane in it suffering from complancency but I think he's still to stamp his mark on this team. They know he's there and that "should" be enough. It would be for me
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top 10?
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Do or did we not have an ex-employee from t-mobile on our books?
Did rangers not sell some of their media rights to NTL a while back?
If rangers got t-mobile (orange would have been more suitable) we would get similar offers. Maybe vodafone?
Pure tripe if you ask me. Expect rangers to be looking a sugar-daddy. This is their only way out
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gweedorebhoy
I'm less worried if his "deal" gives him £10-15m for two years. That won't give much long-term.
If the bulk is re-financing then that's more smoke and mirrors. What would be scary is CASH in excess of £20m.
Do you have any suggestions re the balance between CASH, new loans (Hunter et al?) and re-financing?
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Guys,
Forgive me if I'm missing something really obvious (good probability), but I need to ask a few questions :
If all this conjecture about T-Mobile/Canal + investing in Rangers in order to broadcast their games via the net is true, then what negative effect, if any, did the Huns selling their media rights to NTL have?
Am I to believe that Rangers will suffer once any future renegotiations of TV packages (perhaps in the EPL of new Euro league) take place? I hope so, because in the short term they have earned £15m for those media rights and may also have a reported £100m for internet/mobile rights, which if true, could leave us trailing.
As for us, any proposed move (and with it lucrative media rights) seems as far away as ever, are we playing the long game holding out for a jackpot which may never come, whilst TFOD are allowed to restructure unchecked? I have to admit it's starting to look that way.
If Rangers can attract this kind of investment (if it exists) then surely so can we. Trouble is, if there were machinations ongoing to this end, why would we be issuing another share issue? This to me has become a major concern.
Wild Monty Belafonte
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Why do so many posters on here have so much inside information on what is happening to r@ngers.
If you lot know so much about them do you have any insider information on Celtic.
If they throw money at a new manager will we respond in the same fashion with WGS?
If it is a mobile company why have they beaten Celtic too it surely globally our appeal is greater?
Or are most of the posters just picking up on rumours they have read on other sites?
Just curious.
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Aternoon all,
Looking for some help re links.
I got an e-mail of a wind-up of an Orc on Real Radio, really shows what they think of Andy Cameron.
Unfortunately, I've tried, thru Putfile, to put the link on here but, try as I may can't get it to work. It's a Real Player file which I've tried converting on the Putfile website to no avail.
If any techie wizards want to have a go I'll e-mail it to them if they leave an address.
Cheers
CaltonTongues
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Some people need to calm down about this whole r*ngers investment thing.Lets just look at the facts:
1) They’re skint
2) They’re garbage
All this speculation about big investment has only started after murray said there would be a big investment.
Do we all trust what murray says. I dont
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Giz a Huddle
Things are going far too well at Celtic. We need something to worry about !
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Well theres not much 'tic news today so the r@ngers are on the topic I suppose. What I'm still waiting to see is the negative r@ngers headlines while we await the long overdue "big" news. Surely if it was us the papers wouldn't be holding back
Paranoid? Moi?
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Giz A Huddle, it looks like we are in open season, just before Bill Gates and George Bush join the Rangers board.
People on 'the other side' are looking for any ray of hope and are prepared to shoot the breeze on the subject.
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Paul-this ray of hope-it's not a moonbeam by any chance?
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I am grateful to all the guys who post on here with actual facts, i.e. the strength of contracts in similar fields to this mythical cash injection across the city,
i.e. I was interested in the emirates figures with Arsenal, the aggregated EPL clubs telecoms deal etc.
But being football fans the extraordianry rumours with no real basis seem to be the ones we latch onto.
Nevertheless points for consideration to assess if there is any substance to the now rampant rumour:
Vodafone are cutting sponsorship with Man U. Is this because they feel the Glazers will seek another partner for this content or is it simply not worth it and/or just not worth being club specific?
T-Mobile would alienate half of Glasgow. They really would. How many of you ever drank McEwans for that very reason? How many wouldn't buy Nike stuff in the late 90's? (Was that just me? I am pathetic). My old man has never bought another bottle of Bells since they were major sponsors of John Greg's testimonial. Boy did Bells lose out!
Canal+, French. Is the output purely for a UK audience? i.e. where would they stand with the law in France disallowing drink advertising (Carling on the jersey)? Maybe that's only on French soil but it's an interesting one.
£10M a year for 10 years for club specific output? 100,000 people spending £100 per year on mobile video output just to match advertising revenue?!? As Paul might say, hmmmm.
A much smaller investment along the lines of buying out the merchandising is plausible, but the rest is like the classic rumours we all used to hear in the 80's and 90's. More likely is all the CL money from this year (£5m) pluse everything from the fire sale at the end of the year.
Anyway, I don't have any inside knowledge, never have. No rumours from me but I did meet a friend today, hot-shot big noise IT guy who tells me "Channel67. Oh yes. Rip snorting success by the way, plenty of revenue to come from that baby". That's the way big noises talk, you know.
C'mon the hoops.
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Ruairi Guckian - I would bring Stan on for whoever wasn't doing it - Stan could replace any of the other 4 midfielders and change the game. WGS will not be afraid to pull off NL SM or RK as he has done Naka.
The important thing would be to bring him on before things go bad not in the middle or after.
I agree that RK is now looking matchfit/ready and its great timing.
TB
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Did there not used to be an organisation called 'moonbeam'.
If memeory serves me correctly:
1. It was a charity (always looking for handouts).
2. The man in charge was very dodgy.
3. They went into debt owing thousands and having screwed peoples lives up with false promises.
Obviously there is no way this could be linked.
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Paul67 - open season or not that was an excellent question raised by WildMonty re the baddies selling their media rights to NTL and now apparently about to sell them again to T Mobile - can they do that? No smoke (and mirrors!) without fire surely.
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Look if the huns show live pictures on mobile phones of games - surely thats breaking the present deal with setanta - is`nt it ??
They sold they`re media rights - we kept ours - the famliy silver i think DD called it!!
But what i will say is this - Mr Insecure will stop at nothing to be top dog - he has to be the best - he`s "a horrible horrible man" to quote an ex tic hero (not telling!)
We should be prepared for the battle.
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I attach the press release from the original RFC-NTL deal.
Typically short on detail, sounds like a lot of buzzwords with some impressive but meaningless numbers thrown in :
Rangers FC and NTL Inc (“NTL”) through its wholly owned subsidiary Premium TV Limited (“Premium TV”) today announced that they have entered into a partnership worth £31 million.
The agreement has been formed on the basis of a media partnership worth £10 million and a joint venture investment by Premium TV of up to £21 million.
Under the agreement Rangers Football Club and Premium TV will jointly act on an exclusive basis to maximise and exploit certain media and commercial rights excluding current collectively negotiated rights.
In addition Rangers and NTL have formed a joint venture which will operate any prospective Rangers Channel, Internet and e-commerce services associated with the Club.
David Murray, Rangers’ Chairman said“ I am extremely excited with the prospects that our future alliance has presented not only to the Club but also to our supporters. Everybody at Rangers Football Club firmly believes that with the additional funding and NTL’s expertise the opportunities are vast and will allow us to fully realise the potential of the new media age. With the strength of the Rangers brand and the technological capabilities of NTL there is no doubt that this partnership will create a powerful combination for the future. The media deal we have struck with NTL is certainly unique in its structure with no equity stake being taken in the Club but a true partnership to achieve a common goal.”
Geoffrey Hamilton-Fairley, Chief Executive of Premium TV said: "This strategic alliance is good news for the Club and its fans. NTL and Rangers will combine their strengths to get the best return for the Club from sponsorship, advertising and media rights. This is also about harnessing all media opportunities including e-commerce and the Internet, which is going to be an increasingly important medium in football. NTL has invested in Rangers Football Club because it is one of the most famous Scottish clubs with a large and loyal fan base throughout the UK and beyond. It is also a natural progression of NTL’s sponsorship relations with the Old Firm. We look forward to expanding our long term relationship with the Club into a new and rewarding association."
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MoleRus, Rangers bought their media rights back for £1.
What some seem to have forgotten is that Celtic announced plans to develop TV feed to mobile phones last year.
This has been forgotten by some as it was nothing more than a minor story, with relevance to the non-UK market, Japan in particular.
Idle speculation doing Celtic down is one thing I have had to get used to, but idle speculation bumming Rangers prospect up I draw the line at.
Murray spoke last week to deflect attention away from himself and his teams performances. How many Celtic fans bought it?
Lots it would seem. I am away in the huff now.
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...looks like Oor Dave (that's Marshall no Murray) is making noises for the off.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/4722064.stm
Not too sure how I feel about this. Don't want to see a great (potential) talent stunted but every team needs cover in all positions. Anybody, any thoughts?
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Valid point Vinniethedog.
I watch celtic games on CH67 but couldn't in the UK because (I assume) setanta had the media rights. Any live coverage using mobiles would not be allowed.
someone email Canal+ quick!!
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Murray bought out NTL for a fiver or something similar. This is where he managed to add the legendary "goodwill" to his balance sheet. There is therefore no bar on entering into some other arrangement for the same.
Gweedorebhoy is a regular poster on here and has stated his own opinion based on being in the financial arena. He seems convined that there is serious money on the way. Question is (and I asked him above) what are the amounts.
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Travelbhoy,not a bother. My point was just that I honestly cant see Gordon having the balls to take off Lenny or Keano early on in the game,as it is always humiliating,fom under 8's to the national team!! what with it being a lazy friday afternoon,i typed in "moonbeam" to google....came across a "camp moonbeam"....one of their sing-a-long songs is
"WE GOTTA GET OUT OF THIS PLACE"
(Murray/Mcleish)
In this dirty old part of the city
Where the sun refused to shine
People tell me there ain't no use in tryin'
Now Big Eck you're not young nor pretty
And one thing I know is true
You'll be dead before your time is due, I know
Watch my duds in Mordor a-dyin'
Watched Eck’s hair been turnin' grey
He's been workin' and slavin' his life away
Oh yes I know it
(Yeah!) He's been workin' so hard
(Yeah!) I've been spinning the media' too, baby
(Yeah!) Every night and day
(Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!)
We gotta get out of this place
If it's the last thing we ever do
We gotta get out of this place
'cause Eck, there's a better life for me and you
If it's the last thing we ever do
We gotta get out of this place
Chairman Dave, there's a better life for me and you
Believe me baby
I know it baby
You know it too
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There has been a lot of criticism of The Mint on this site but you have got to hand it to him. He has been consistently caught out in the past with being economical with the truth, yet he manages to lay a few suggestions with the Laptop Loyal and we have everybody and their dof wondering what trick he is going to produce next.
Unfortunately, we do not have a press that will question him but we should continue to deal with his proclamations with absolute scepticism unless he can prove otherwise. Remember this is the Press who stated, exclusively and I ma led to believe that Paul Le Guen is Rangers new manager. Which admittedly sounds better than Mr Murray told me what to write.
All we know is the following:
1. Scottish football in the main is not an attractive proposition especially one with an enormous amount of debt.
2. Stadium rights would generate very little new revenue for an already existing stadium. Although it mould be intreesting if anybody ay Mattel would consider copyrighting Castle Greyskull.
3. There will be no decision soon on any super casino and despite the parochial angle from Scottish press the longs odds on favourite is Blackpool.
4. There is no other obvious sponsorship as the strips are tied up with Carling.
5. The internet & mobile market is in it's infancy in relation to the broadcast of game content - what percentage of the population have 3G phones. And why would Vodafone drop Man Utd if it just about to explode?
This leaves the Sentimental Rich Hun making a vain attempt to be popular, or selling the family jewels.
The problem with the jewels is that Rankers only marketable product is the shops which would generate a one off less than £20M injection with less income in future years.
The problem with The Sugar Proddy is that any significant amount would reuire Murray to give up a significant proportio of shares and the names suggested have not shown any inclination in the past for investing heavily or throwing money at football.
Skelly is all but retired and has to be careful with what he does with his pile.
Clark is in his 80s and would be concerned over the Peoples effect of sponsoring one team.
This leaves Hunter but again has shown that he has had very little inclination in the past with investing in football.
Murray has been totally contradictory in respect of finances since post Advocaat. He would never get the club inserious debt again, had to cut their cloth etc. If there is a significant investor out there why did they not raise their head when Murray was passing out the begging bowl last year and raised £800k from other investors and swapped overdrafts for £50M?
I wonder which Celtic Biscuit Tin/ Player fall out story the Loyal will run to mask the unravelling Mint promises.
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Is the site broke? No updates after 3:12??? Or is it just me?
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blantyrekev- from the DT article at the top of the page'Latching on to all this[the speculationn at R/gers]is a subspecies of parasite,the commentators who would not recognise a real story even if it presented itself with Government approved ID'
Looks like Roddy Forsyth,who wrote the article,sees his future with Radio5 and the Telegraph rather than the tartan typewriters.
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BlantyreKev
Excellent post - and much needed - think we are all getting carried away here. Only one thing is for sure, if Murray manages to get £10 worth of investment then it will be blown out of all proportion by his poodle pack.
Let's see what is announced - and then lets see what actually has happened six months down the line.
Celtic are the only game in town as far as future investment possibilities go as far as I can see - what decent company would want to be associated with all the FTP brigade?
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Do not believe, Gweedorebhoy, he is swinging at a moonbeam.
Nobody, in this world, would release 20 million plus of their funds, to a fading star.
If Ibrox is to be saved, it will be under new ownership.
Murray is now past tense.
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Calton, I'll leave a message on noel's blog Re. putfile
pablophanque
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Nybrianr,
Just a wee question - what happened to Rocky Sullivans ? why did it shut down ?
Whatever we say about Murray - he can pull rabbits out of the hat - The ENIC deal being a prime example and to a lesser extent the ntl deal.
The Grand Wizard...............
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100 million media rights !!
We are talking about a team who can't even fill their stadium on a Saturday, never mind capturing a global market.
Gie's peace !
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Why, if this big cash investment is coming to Chairman Dave, could he not have made a draw on it, and paid HIbs the 450 grand they wanted for Riordan?
Why did they want three years too pay? Did they pay all the money up front for Kris "Billy" Boyd?
Any thoughts from the financial wizards oot there/
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Trusty,
Are you a member of the Rangers Supporters Trust?
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My dear friend, Plato.....,
One is in no need of a financial wizard,in order to understand the G.A. predicament.
Mounting and UNREMITTING DEBT, is the CULPRIT!
Of which RAY has, in abundance!
Our friend, Trusty, is spot on.
Money goes to Money........who said that....... I do not know.....but he sure knew his edible bulbs!
I would never dream of beating a trail to the IBROX MORASS.......who wants to live in a Financial SWAMP????.....
Which is, in fact, what is being proposed.
Ah! But NEW OWNERSHIP?
That, my friend would be a horse of a different hue.
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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anyone?
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I'm waiting!!!
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Plato
Clearly finance shuts at 4 on a friday :-}
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Mock all you like lads.
I am just telling you what I have been told and seen. We are not the only global brand in glasgow.
Canada, USA and Austrlian offer major distribution and brand building opportunities for both clubs.
We have all talked about the fantastic opportunities offerd by new technology - just happens Ironside is actually doing something about it.
I hate this as much as you guys do but in typical CQN loyal style if something does not fit your narrow minded agenda then it has to be nonsense.
Hunter and Skelly are huns but educated huns. They are the short term cash.
Stage two is the long term cash this is T mobile and the financial restructuring.
All this takes time and Ironside did not want to show his hand too early.
I would lose credability in what i do if i said how i know but i do and to be honest i dont really give a hoot if you don't believe me I trust my source.
Straight from the horses mouth as they say.
In business it's not just about knowing your market and customer it's about knowing the opposition.
So less of the personal abuse we are all entitled to our voice.
I just want to ask how we might respond.
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Pablophanque,
Message on Noel's blog, eventually!
CaltonTongues
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I despair at times, I really do.
When and if the "big investment" is announced and we see something like this in the rags....
Just as promised, Rangers are moving on to another level from the rest of Scottish football, as chairman David Murray announced a new investment of £53m for the Ibrox club, with a further massive cash boost soon to follow.
The eventual cash injection could soar as high as £80m as Murray guides the club into what he believes will be a new, golden era for the Scottish champions.
...are we going to say "oh no we're doomed" or are we going to say "aye that's what you said in 2000."
The above is from an article from March 2000 that Paul posted only 3 days ago.
As someone said earlier it seems like some Celtic fans just like to have something to worry about.
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Rangers need 20 million AND Paul Le Guen to win the SPL? If you're reading this Mr. Mint I'll do it with 10 million (and ma brother's no a priest!!! ).
Bless me father for I have sinned it's been.....
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Paul67
I reaslise this is off-topic but do you have any upate on the Rangers Management decision. A recent previous article suggested "Graham Roberts" which I assume was based on some knowledge rather than just your "gut".
Has your opinion changed? is Le Guen still a possibility? Have you heard anymore inside information?
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Platowasatim, no reply because you have hit the nail on the head.
There is no financial deal in place.
There is no managerial deal in place.
Al, clearly they are chasing the Frenchman, but Roberts is Plan B.
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gweederbhoy and others......
i cant stand murray, mainly because the press are so sycophantic to him BUT do we need the 'ironside' stuff????????
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I must be blind!
Is this particular topic about Celtic?
Thankyou Paul for changing the direction from whatever attention seeking is going on with the 'Dark Side', who gives a poop!
Agree with a previous poster,
Naka, Stan, Keane, Maloney
Sorry Lenny, time to face the reality im afraid!
4-0 Celtic, Keane to score again!
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gweedorebhoy
How can Chairman Dave attract this type of money into R******, when he and his club are in financial meltdown?
I am not doubting you or your source. I am genuinely interested in how he can constantly get very rich people on board!
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kojo
Thanks for your reply.
are you saying that Chairman Dave is for the offski?
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Vinnie, re. Rocky Sullivans
I'm not sure when as it's been a few months since watching a game there but a friend who would go every week said there was a bit of trouble and threats were made (i.e. me and my IRA pals....etc.) and the landlord thought enough was enough.
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Cheers Paul!!
I hope you are right!!!
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Surely you can understand Paul why most of us are wee bit edgy with what the baddies are up to. Even with MON - our best manager since big Jock in charge - they still managed to nick the title off of us twice - and that was with an alleged lame duck in charge. Now the baddest guy in town is talking about moonbeams of success coming their way on the back of megabuck investments - to the ordinary Celtic fan that sounds like a threat - and that’s what most of us are - ordinary Celtic fans. Well apart from Noel90 who is a comedian and an ordinary Celtic fan - that's meant as a complement Noel!
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My dear friend Travelbhoy,
You are correctomundo.
The Stan development, is no surprise.
It is in perfect keeping with , Horses for Courses, which in turn, leads to the Current Policy which is being implemented, unseen, it seems....... of 2 to 3 viable choices, for EVERY POSITION in the FIRST ELEVEN.
This policy shall become more familiar, as the rest of the season, unfolds.......
We are experiencing a run of good fortune, which will make this new procedure, less of a gamble, than it would have been.
The Manager, will be able to give full VENT to his experiments.
The Game against The G.A. was an example of that.
Dropping NAKA was in no way deleterious to the Over All Team Performance.
The playing of Mr. WILSON...OUT of his accepted berth....... did not detract from the DEFENSIVE SET-UP.........which I thought was eminently successfull, against everything the G.A. could muster.
I look forward to the TIME when there shall be 3 alternatives to each and every position in the TEAM.
Which is the ULTIMATE INTENT of the CELTIC MANAGER.
If our run of good fortune continues....... I fully expect Mr.Strachan to involve several of the members of the Youth Ranks in more and more occasions.
Dunfermline 0 Celtic 16
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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As it's a Celtic site and we're heading for the title I thought I'd drop this in to the conversation.....
Oh-over and over, we will follow you
Over and over, we will see you through
We are Celtic supporters, faithful through and through
And over, and over, we will follow you
If you go to Germany, you will see us there
France ot Spain, it's all the same, we'll go anywhere
We'll be there to cheer you,
as you travel round,
you can take us anywhere, we won't let you down
We are Celtic supporters, faithful through and through
Over, and over, we will follow you
If you go to Lisbon, we'll go once again
In Zaire, you'll find us there, calling out your name
When you need supportin', you will always know
We'll be right behind you, anywhere you go, oh...
Now is that a song or is that a song.
Have a timtastic weekend.
p.s. Kojo,
Dunfermline 0 Celtic 84 !
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Murray has kept this story on the back pages for months now. BFDJ at Clyde has been talking baout this investment since October/November and then of course Murray's own 'Moonbeam' statements.
If he fails to provide both the investment promised and the manager heavily hinted at is his tenure at Ibrox over?
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gweedoreboy
I am not questioning the validity from a blinkered position. Undoubtedly, Skelly & Hunter have the correct make up to be Rankers investors. And you quite correctky state that they are succesful businessmen. Surely, that being said they would want a large shareholding for any sizeable investment. There has been no indication that Murray wishes to give up on his holding.
T-Mobile would only have future benefits years down the line and would have very little benefit now, while facing a potential backlash from Celtic fans. The potential income stream also contradicts the market leader, Vodafone, positioning in the market. It also contradicts NTL's decision to write off their investment in Rankers.
I would also question that Rankers have similar global prospects to ourselves. Yes they have supporters groups worldwide but this is made up of Ex pats while all connection includes the far larger Irish Diaspora, significant in roads into developing markets (eg Japan) while also building up healthy relationships throughout the continent.
Again hats off to the Mint for fully exploiting the situation. The Orcs are back at Mordor believing that this season doesn't matter because there is a brave new dawn round the corner and he has bought time at the very least.
DD has received a fair bit of criticism but in relation to investment wealth he only really bows to the likes of Abramovich. Yet apparently he is not aware of the growth opportunities that the Mint is now going to exploit.
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Bank of Scotland Scottish Premier League Table
P GD PTS
1 Celtic 26 39 64
2 Hearts 26 29 51
3 Hibernian 26 14 45
4 Rangers 26 13 43
5 Kilmarnock 26 7 41
Rangers´s next 4 SPL games are;
Hibernian at home
Falkirk away
Kilmarnock at home
Hearts away
Hibs want the CL place along with Hearts.
In other words they play 3 of the top 5, Killie have serious financial problems of their own that qualification for the Uefa cup might just appeal to them not to roll
over. Rangers have two CL games sandwiched between this.
Does anybody really thinks that there is a major mega bucks deal in the offing so that they can watch Rangers in the SPL next year on their phones ?
Wakey Wakey ..... the reek of Coffee
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All I know is that Dunfermline are going to be up for this game and Celtic need to be ready. A nice win please!
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MoleRus, chill, and read the article from The Herald from 2000 that I covered this week.
He told us he was going to bring European success to Ibrox good grief.
Kojo, Gordon was looking quite ‘at home’ today for the first time I thought.
He is a man who does not hide his body language. I think he has turned a corner.
BlantyreKev, excellent, thank you for that.
Focus returned.
Keegans74, apologies, I slipped back into the pack for a moment there.
Awe Naw, thanks for your refreshing dose of facts. Hibs and Killie for tomorrow.
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Kojo take Blantyre Kev's bet I've seen his ability to back Celtic V the Pars, what was your bet the last we played them Kev and what was the score?
Anyway enjoy BOTH games on sunday Blantyre Kev.
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Vinniethedog, re: Rocky's
Rocky Sullivan's is still open, and alive and well. Best pint of Guinness in the USA. (In my humble opinion.)
However, the Manhattan #1 CSC moved out of Rocky's at the end of 2004. Last I heard, they had set up shop at Jack Dempsey's Bar over on 33rd Street near the Empire State Building. For what it is worth, I had heard that there were some internal issues with the club, and a split in membership, coupled with Dempsey's offering the club some incentives to move.
Nevertheless, I have not been to any games at Dempsey's as one night I went to there to check it out, and sad to say, I was less than impressed with the atmosphere there. (Also, their Guinness was pi$$.)
When in NYC, I now head over to the New York CSC at the Parlour.
Incidentally, if anyone is coming over to NYC for St. Patrick's Day, Eire Og/Gary Og (Whatever they are calling themselves these days.) will be playing at Rocky Sullivan's with house band Seanchai on the evening on March 16th. It's always great craic, and they will get to play "Those songs that they are not allowed to play in Scotland." For more information go to Seanchai's website:
www.seanchai.com
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A nice win indeed is required. It will be long return to East End Park for me. Not been there since Neil Lennon scored a goal - yes youngsters, lennon did actually score a goal - what odds for that happening again on Sunday then?
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Murrays a gambler
1/4 chance not really when you consider that Blackppol and the Dome are way ahead to get this.
http://news.scotsman.com/glasgow.cfm?id=234352006
ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
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To all
Please go the the e-tims rumour mill and look at their slightly amended version of the Lennoxtown develoment made me cry with laughter.
http://www.etims.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=1330&Itemid=29
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Paul-
is there any truth in the rumour that
if Hibs beat rangers AGAIN tomorrow-
they get to keep them .......?
noel.
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Please see the following petition calling for improved public transport to Celtic Park. There's an article about it in today's Evening Times.
www.petitiononline.com/lisbon67/petition.html
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Muppet Bhoy @.51pm & Soulglo67 @1.47pm
The Guardian last week had the story that Geraldine O`Neil was expected to have a positive announcement about her health before the end of Feb at which time MON would declare his return to football management.They announced on the same day that Middlesborough were monitoring Tony Mobray`s progress--this was before the victories over Chelsea and Stuttgart
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I can assure you I am chilled Paul, however being a bit of a realist its hard to swallow the idea that the baddies are simply gonna roll over and die. And maybe's your in danger of sending out the wrong message, unless all you really want is people coming on here chanting 'fourth in the SPL'. Which I'm sure your not but some days that’s what you sound like
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If there was a mega bucks deal on the way to r@ngers and we have all been talking about it since mid December, why did the provider of said finance not forward dodgy dave a couple of hundred big ones to secure the signing of Riordan in January?
Come to that did the bank/dodgy dave have so little confidence in this investment taking place in the short term, as we are asked to believe, that they wouldnt put up an extra £200k to get Riordan knowing that the money was on the way very soon to pay it back and then some.
After all hasnt Dodgy Dave just sold part of his empire for £120M?
As has been said before Hmmmmmm.
Answers on a postcard to
Dodgy Dave
Snake Mountain (of Debt)
556 Millstone Road
Govan
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just in from the place that pays the bills !
news from the mark today
NONE on any big deal
MORE confirmation on JJB
News fom the CREDIT INSURANCE PEOPLE is that MIH is a worry.....they are BIG BIG players when it comes to what and where you can trade !
SO BAD NEWS FOR MIH.....
however RFC is the MILLSTONE
rest of group trading well and looking to expand !
maybe Kojo has something with his CHANGE OF OWNER......if DM did sell even part of RFC that would ease the Credit situation
no news however on that from within...
NO CHANGE OF BANK ON CARDS FOR MIH
but if RFC are sold then a change of bank as told by GWEEDERBHOY might make sense.
EARS STILL OPEN
The Insider
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gweedorebhoy
So the evil empire is streching out it's tenticles!
We i'll fight back, if T-Mobile are going to invest in rangers then i'll be cancelling my contract!
While I'm on the subject does anyone have a list of companies owned by Hunter/ Skelly the BHOYCOTT starts here!
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Paul67,
Did you get areply from Mc Vicar or am I falling for it hook line and sinker ? :-)
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Gweedore 4.15
When you say "less of the personal abuse..." I hope my reply in the previous thread didn't come across as too confrontational - was not the intent - but as has been posted ad nauseum the PR machine at Mordor gets more coverage than a bubble-wrapped tutankhamun and they've been rattling on about new money, re-financing, Eck's transfer kitty etc etc for months...
...just seems to me to be all a bit too optimistic considering the state they're in.
My view, no insider knowledge.
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rioskorrie-3.24.
The comments made by young Marsh seem a bit at odds with the headline[plus ce change...]
He says he wants to sit down at the end of the season and talk to Minimus about his future-not unreasonable for any young player.
He also states he wants to see out his current contract
If [DV]we win the SPL in good style and with games to spare then he'll probably be back in the nets,especially as AB is going to Germany in the summer.
After his brilliance in his first few games against Barca and TFOD he did go on to have a run of games with at least one major mistake,including the Cup Final.
Given the attitude of TGFITW to other young players this season he may have been spared a lot of damage to his confidence by the emergence of the Poleinthegoal.
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I can't see T-mobile or any company putting 100M into rangers............ they would offer us the same deal (maybe they have and we've not been told yet .........Kojo .....have we) ..:-)
what I can see is ........ whatever money they do get watch out for they way the statement is worded ..............rangers could earn X amount of money .............. the question has to be asked .........what is the guaranteed amount going in ever year, but i'm afraid that the scottish media wont asked that one ......
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How on earth does Derek Johnstone have his own column in the evening times? it really has to be read to be believed. Here's just a small sample of the tripe he spouts "The thing that drives Le Guen is the challenge of rebuilding a struggling club, which is exactly what he'd get with Rangers...Lyon were struggling when he took them over but he took them to 3 titles in a row". What a load of sh!te! Lyon were after winning the French title for the first time in their History!! struggling you say?? Have a good weekend gentlemen,im off.
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I was feeling a bit lethargic until I read BFDJ's column. Now he's put me in the mood for a right good drink - help calm me down. Cheers ya big fat .....
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Ok Three weeks before xmas Murray was promising four new signings. He even said which positions they were seeking (to give the effect that he was in control and that the ground work was being done in the background). End of the transfer window and ONLY their second transfer target could not be afforded due to them ("no longer being held for ransom in the transfer market"). Said transfer target inspires "Murray out" demonstrations. One week later poodle Eck is conversing with the laptop loyal about the finance not being in place.
Ah so Murray is on the phone to the big wigs at T-Mobile and Canal+ telling them to get their bahookeys in gear because they are making him look like a donkey´s bahookey and has got ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Tony Mowbray and Jimmy Calderwood.
Next Follows Paul Le Guen announcement by Wednesday .. no announcement on Wednesday and before you know it T-Mobile and Canal+ are bailing Rangers out
... anybody beleieving all this stop in your tracks now. A big drop is coming up soon and its called a cliff.
Have a nice weekend Bhoys and lets put a nail in Hunfermlines chances of staying in the SPL
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Guys,
I have read in a few Blogs that Arnold Clark may be one of Murray's Philanthropists, does anyone know were that came from. ? I live in the same village as Arnold (rural Stirlingshire don't you know !) and he is legendary for being the most tight fisted sod around. I would say their is more chance of me giving Rangers money!,
He has all the credentials right enough, kirk elder and all that!
