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Get in there!
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Eck Must stay!, Eck Must Stay!
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I going to read the article now, but before I go I'd love to thank.......
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bronze?
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silver even?
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Paul I guess my request for a Thursday release to the Fan Fare story was not to be. However a 1,2,3 on a thread more than makes up for this!! I'll just have to catch up with all the fun when I'm back behind the keyboard Saturday...
ExiledInAberdeenTim:
Your FOURTH on the new thread...
:-)
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don't take over the podium bdb!
Eck did pretty well with meagre resources. However,he is leaving with that most precious of commodities down Govan way-Dignity-completely gone
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Paul, I beleive you and Kojo predicted these events, post Clyde. As I have stated in the past all of Timdom should be glad to see the end of Big Eck.
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From previous thread:
The timing could head off the Car Park Loyal at the pass! What do they shout about when we do them on SUN? Who do they blame when Villa escort them out of Europe? Nobody to shout at and Murray promising the earth in Summer, the mint is playing a delaying game.
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Paul67
Roberts would not worry me in the slightest, Le Guen with money to spend and restructure would.
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Paul,
I still maintain that McLeish has been working his notice since early in the season.
Murray has given in to the hounds and broken the news. He is a deplorable, disgusting man who deserves all he gets.
McLeish is an excellent manager who I found it difficult to dislike, and as you say he has protected Murray throughout all of this. I really do pity him. I hope he gets a decent job in England.
As for Roberts as the next Manager, well, you bet it will be. In times when money is tighter than a ducks proverbial, he fits the bill perfectly. Oh, and let's not forget that he falls squarely into the "right sort of peepul" category.
Bring on the Fan Fan big man.....as I said earlier this season, time to bury them celtic.
By Sunday they might just be 5th again, all things going according to plan!!.
Hail Hail
Martybhoy
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Paul - is your Roberts tip a hunch, based on rumour, or have you heard something concrete? I can see a certain logic to it but if it's correct I would be surprised and pleasantly so. I can't see him being a tactical genius or particularly astute in the transfer market.
What about the strong rumours of Mr Keegan? My fear would be DM tries to attract the manager who has humiliated him most this year -Tony Mowbray and who's to say he wouldn't be interested? And, depending on the rest of the English season, George Burley could also be a contender (again).
3-2 on Sunday with Keane bagging a double and BBJ getting the opener.
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bdb
I'm stocking up on my Gaukler Medieval Wares(click click) and the next time I see you, you'll be stepping up to the podium for a beheading. It's all the rage apparently if you offend folk.
;)
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Graham Roberts? Hmmm, can't see it Paul. He might want to take his assistant with him.
And that's Joe "1989 Cup Final, Thank-you Gary Stevens" Miller. (;-0)
Harking back to the last thread, can I just thank p8ddy for yet another erudite reply to a detractor. This site would be the poorer without his sceptical, but becoming fairer by the day, input.
Lastly, on the last thread I posted directions for pablophanque, who is heading to the U-19s match against Rangers at Airdrie's Excelsior Stadium, Kick-off 2pm on Friday. I thought perhaps one or two others might want to go along, so:
If you are coming from the Glasgow area, head along the M8 towards Edinburgh, go past Coatbridge and the EuroTerminal turn-offs, and take the Newhouse turn-off (the one after Chapelhall).
The turn-offs are well signposted. It's the NEWHOUSE one you want.
At the bottom of the slip road, turn LEFT towards Chapelhall and Airdrie. It's a straight road from there. Around a mile and a half. You go through Chapelhall, and the Excelsior Stadium is on the outskirts of Airdrie, on your right-hand side.
Ye cannae miss it. Honest.
Ignore the "Away Fans" sign and go on a couple of hundred yards, where you turn right into the car park for the main stand.
A wee steward there usually collects £2 for using the car park. Ach, Airdrie need the cash. It's £2 to get in. Not sure if you can still get in for free with your season ticket, but it's worth a try.
Try to get a team sheet off one of the stewards in the stand. It greatly aids the identification of the participants.
Pie and Bovril's not bad either.
Due to work commitments, I may only be able to stay for the first half, so please let us all know how we got on.
A lot will depend how many of our top players Willie McStay is allowed to use, as some have been training with the first team.
But we'll win by a couple if our starting line-up is anywhere close to this:
Scott Fox; Paul Caddis, Dean Richardson, Darren O'Dea, Scott Cuthbert; Jim O'Brien, Simon Ferry, Teddy Bjarnason, Ryan Conroy; Diarmuid O'Carroll, Paul McGowan.
Subs: Paul Skinner, Ryan McCafferty, Andy Traub, Mark Miller, Charlie Grant, Paul Cahillane, Graham Carey.
Enjoy!
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perfectly put martybhoy!
bdb
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Poor Eck - Most people that get sacked go out and try and get another job, he's got to stay at Castle Grayskull !
Dignity ?
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Dessybhoy, there is a better chance of Paul67 getting the Ibrox job than Paul Le Guen.
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Cheers BdB
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Oh I hope you are correct, Paul. Try as I did, I could never bring myself to totally loathe McLeish. ROBERTS on the other hand..............
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Unbelievably undignified kneejerk reaction to avoid major embarrassment on Sunday.
Imagine it. Ten minutes to go, 2 down. What do the hordes do? Leave early? Stay to demand the head of Alex? Lie down on Edmiston Drive and stop the traffic until Dave delivers?
It would have been fun to watch anyway. But this is aimed at defusing the situation before it happens. Goes to show how confident they are of winning on Sunday, what? (Don't get me wrong, I'm not being triumphalist, just reflecting on their defeatism.)
And the announcements. An announcement about an announcement about a new manager. Note, deal not completed yet (so whoever it turns out to be was always the only target). An announcement about an announcement about investment. If it's there, why not just announce it?
How does he get out of this one?
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ExiledInAberdeenTim
At least I'll be on the podium again ;-)
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Paul67
Well done mate your articles are lying 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 15th & 18th on NewsNow/Celtic Top 20 Articles.
Whats the odds on Paul getting a No. 1 for the FanFan story? Its got to be money on.
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Sacked, resigned, or asked to resign?
Paul - any basis to the Roberts suggestion or just an intelligent guess?
I wonder if the 'delay' in the major investment is related to the sacking of Souness. Perhaps Newcastle were lined up to bid £20 million for Bob Malcolm!
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With regards Chesney's inclusion of Telfer in last nights line-up.
Young Wilson played on the opposite end of the park to allow Telfer his usual position. Similarities of Danny McGrain here. Was he not played by the Scottish coach on the opposite end in order to facilitate a 2nd rate Rangers player?
Wonder if uncle Walter will use Wilson in the same way.
Just shows you that this young lad has already showed his class.
In my opinion, a possible legend in the making.
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I think the appeasement session to the Rangers supporters factions indicated that as soon as Rangers are no longer in the CL then Eck will be moved on quickly. Even if Eck negotiates Rangers to get passed VR (as the mans luck never ceases to amaze me) the emergency funds will be made available to the new man. The so called announcement is useless as they cannot buy anyone until June anyway when a WC will be going on. So get the new guy in now to start doing the ground work.
I reckon as I said before it will be a french coach. Second guess is that Souness will come in and put up his own money. The man needs the attention his career is finished. DM owes him a few favours but this time Souness will be investing in the club putting in his own money.
If it´s JC, Xavier start buying Celtic shares NOW !!!!!
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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the BBC originally used the word 'sacked' but has since changed it to 'McLeish to leave Rankers in May' ??
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The Snyde phone-in is shaping up as a classic.
According to Mark Guidi, Paul Le Guen is furiously studying English so that he can take up the Rangers job.
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Posted at the same time of new blog on previous post(sentiments tie totally with the post, though if it is Roberts, that is a joke) -
I thought Murray didn't sack managers or some guff along those lines.
I find the timing of the sacking astonishing. rangers still have European spots to fight for, this is a massive boost to both Hibs and Hearts, tfod could now go into freefall. I also think it now makes us favourites for the game at the weekend.
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William Hill spokesman has said they will not be opening a book on the next manager as it is a foregone conclusion Le Guen has the job! hope for once the bookies have git it wrong!
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All this respect for Eck! Sorry I used to feel the same way but I lost a lot after the diginity comments and lost it all COMPLETELY whe he didn´t quit after qualifying for th enext round in the CL.A mouse of a man. Lets not digest what he won and how he got there - all very shady IMHO .. ask the Hibees and the lanarkshire huns what they think of him
For Eck
There's a man i meet walks up our street
He's a worker for the Murray Mint
Has been for four or 5 years
And he takes no points off nobody
And litter off the gutter
Puts it in a team
And never seems bitter
And he packs his bags in a few more weeks
and its a case of "games a bogie"
He never lets on
Cause he hasn´t got a scoobie
He let me know a secret about the lack of money in his kitty
He's gonna buy a donkey
Gonna call her Numpitee
And he'll sail her up the west coast
Through villages and towns
we'll be is Seville and
They'll be doing their rounds
They'll ask me how i got her i'll say "i saved my money"
They'll say isn't she pretty that ship called Numpitee
Hail Hail
BYE BYE ECK I HOPE YOU GET AN HISTORIC GUBBING THIS SUNDAY, IT HELPED MON IT SURE WILL HELP WGS
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NYBrianR.
you are right. Noticed that myself
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What is all this talk of the 'fan fan story' ??
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Will there ever be a right time for the FanFan story?!?!?!?
The news that McLeish is leaving will take up the headlines for the next few days - realising the FanFan story would either take over from this and McLeish would be ignored, by shadowed by the McLeish news or run in conjunction and therefore probably have less effect than on its own.
Maybe tomorrows papers filled with the McLeish story (that's if they weren't today - I don't know I get all my news from the internet and the metro) then Saturdays filled with FanFan's? By that I mean the FanFan story printed as soon as the morning print is made?
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Paul67,
I dont know whether to chastise you or congratulate you. The Roberts presentation for thsi thread is a hand grenade. A quite unashamed tabloid tactic. CQN should be above this or are we stealing the agenda here. I suppose we will have to wait until the CQN AGM NOT to be told
Hail Hail
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I agree malone19. Le Guen could have his pick of top European clubs, why Rangers? No Champions League next year? I hope Paul is right regarding Roberts but i have my doubts.
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Why would Paul Le Guen take the Rangers job? Surely he can do better?
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Sir Paul,
I believe that you have something there....
Mr. ROBERTS for the much desired and coveted position of the Next G.A. Manager.
When you posited it in this current submission....... the Name Rang the TOCSIN......
Sure enough, with a bit of backtracking here is what I uncovered.
This following submission was made of this SITE.....directly AFTER the CLYDE DISAPPOINTMENT.....
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I quote:
Sun.Jan.8th on CQN.
At 4.35 P.M. Alanadale said:
Paul,
I think that this will make you sit up!
Talkin' and Walkin' with you know who.
Get this!
G.A's. New Manager......
Now this is not cut and dried, by any means....... but is a strong, strong possibility.....
And who can blame them?
Mr. Roberts.
And not the Broadway Success, but the Braidwood Success!
.............................
HMMMMMMMMMMM !
Very INTERESTING.
Doncha Think?
And I happen to be PINKETY, PINKETY on this one too!
The Mirror is woiking, AS USUAL...
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Billy Davies will be the next ranjurs manager.
That is my prediction, and I am now going to the pub.
Good night y'all.
Hail! Hail!
Curly
PS 4 - 1 to the Hoops on Sunday. Majic, BBJ, Maloney (2). Boyd scores their penalty.
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Cant believe that liar murray trying to kid on that mcleish leaving in the summer is a new story.
After telling us in December that "good man/honest man" would get to the end of the season-he is now telling us that mc leish will get to the end of the season- D O H ! .
Does this chancer think we are ALL as stupid and blind as chick young ?
This NON-STORY is a smokescreen to take the heat off HIMSELF .
his constant lies are coming back to haunt him.
he thinks he has bought himself more time and averted more protests at ibrox this weekend.
All he has done is to totally humiliate alex mcleish and his coaching staff.
Edward-you have my sympathies.
noel.
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noel
smokescreen?
take the heat off himself?
correct - McLeish is the sacrificial goat (can I say that?)
Curly
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noel
you have a goat?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Do you have a bowler as well?
Curly
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Does Eck´s contract come to an end this summer or is he being paid off ?
"potential new manager"
and
"Alex's intention to leave at the end of the season"
Funny handshakes all round me thinks
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Paul-
how long to the big 7-OH ?
curly-
murray really gets my goat[can I say that?]
lies,lies and more lies .
noel.
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the timing of this latest twist in the tale from dodgy dave doesnt change anything, eck was to be given until after CL games or the end of the season...
after hibees cup result at the weekend and the predictable slide back down the table there is nothing for him to self promote this season.
dodgy dave has tried to deceive once again by putting the focus of attention on eck.buying a little time before sundays certain humiliation in front of his own sychophants.
im more led to think that roberts hasnt got the nous for the big time and he will either go back for burley or even a combination of ...look away now if easily offended.....
the beast and butcher....
le guen would be bonkers to take the post or even to consider his name to be linked with this outfit...
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Now don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to the fanfan story as much as everyone else (no pressure P Daddy!) but does anyone actually believe the papers would print something negative about their team?
The papers tomorrow will be more of Magnificent Murray Musing Managers and less of Eejit Eck Ejected by Egomaniac
Print the story P Daddy 67! As much as I would love to see the truth about Rankers dodgy dealings in the red tops I just don't think it will happen with the majority of our "esteemed" meedja!
Bring it on!
Guigsy
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Curly, Billy Davies would be my tip as well. He bizarrely went on about his love for rangers in a recent interview.
It could be that rangers have been sounding out any managers with a playing connection to them and who are also cheaply available. They can then sell the appointment as a return to their roots and history, trying to appeal to the more basic nature of their fans. I dont think it would work with most of them as they still think they are big players on the football stage.
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All Huns calling radio snyde saying how well McLeash did and how proud of him they are.Hypocrites!
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Re McLeish,
what kind of man does that ? I can (exclusively) reveal that McLeish will be leaving at the end of the season.........
Anyway, 2 classic and somewhat bizzare quotes from the BBC report of Murray's statement:-
1. "The decision had been made. This is a premature announcement,".
What ???? No, it's about 3 months after everyone knew McLeish was out at the end of the season. No, it's a blatant attempt to treat McLeish in a way that tries to force him to resign, thereby avoiding any pay-off.
2. "Significant amounts of money will be coming into Rangers Football Club. It's obvious Rangers have got to re-invest real money in players."
This reminds me of pre-McCann Celtic Board of Directors, you know - we're gonna put some REAL money into it. Jeez, what other kind of money is there ?
One thing I learnt during the '90s is that whatever goes wrong, however bad the situation is, it can ALWAYS get worse. A lot worse. Hopefully that lot are about to learn that.
Perhaps on Sunday, WGS has his opportunity to cement his place at Celtic - his 6-2 if you like.
Come on the Celts - go to it. Let's have some fun.
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2 of my most favourite games at Ipox was when we had the 'lilo' day, followed quickly by the 'peperoni' day. The McLeish announcement makes sunday an ideal day to do something equally momentuous. In Spain, if a team is playing poorly, the supporters take out white hankies and wave them to indicate they are surrending and are registering their displeasure. How about 8,000 white hankies on Sunday to acknowledge the surrender of McLeish? Or any other ideas?
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Graham Roberts, that will not happen, no way. He doesn't have anything to offer, other than his ability to get on our nerves. Billy Davies is the name i'd offer up.
Let's just hope they don't pull a rabbit from a hat and get a Le Guen or Hiddink type, because if they do, they must be planning on splashing the cash again.
Mind you, watching them crash and burn again down the line could be fun!
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HarbourBhoy
How about waving empty tattie bags to indicate Eck got the sack.
Don't bother - I'm gone!
Hail! Hail!
Curly
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See if Murray doesnt get Le Guen - the huns will tear the place apart - they think its all done and dusted. Hellloooooo. How funnt is it going to be when Davies or even better Roberts get unveilled.
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Guigsy ........ all we need to do is wait until Paul67 puts the FanFan story up then ............copy and paste it on every web site we know ..............that's where the press get their stories anyway.
Kojo or Paul67 .......any word on the BIG announcement / investment into rangers yet?
or is it just bull.......
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Did Billy Davies not follow on from Eck at Motherwell ?
It all depends on this ahem!! major investment and what form it takes. I wouldn´t rule out Souness making a return as Football director.
I still think that a better manager could get the present squad playng better with just a few tweaks here and there that why I reckon the coach will be French. Maybe even a French Coach with Souness pullling the strings making the decisions and taking the flak - I mean where else is ther for him to go ?
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If Rangers want to bring the beast back, i will personally offer to go and pick him up.
There was recently an internet poll on the go apparently, asking folk who they would chose, if they were allowed to punch a personality. By a landslide it was won by the beast, which says a lot about the man really.
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erm any thoughts on whereabouts ecks gonna wash up ????
not bothered like..just thought it would be interesting to hear some thoughts....
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Chairman Dave is being very bullish, which I know is his usual demeanour.
However, he seems convinced that he will pull off such a huge miracle as Le Guen and more investment that will go straight into the team.
If he does not do it there will be a lot of irate bears out there, additionally his position would be untenable given his assurances of this news.
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Dunno if anyone has mentioned this...
I was listening to Radio Scotland when Chick comes on and says he has been in a long interview with Murray and is giving it all the big licks about the money that will be invested and announced after the Villareal game. Aside from the statement that they would be buying top European players from top teams, not bosman or free transfer (so get it up ye Celtic undertones an all), Chick then says Murray wouldnt disclose any information on who the new manager would be, except that they are in advanced disxussions with him. Chick goes "I reckon it'l be Paul Le Guen", then rants on about this investment and signings again. To sum up his report he then says "so Murray is promising a multi million pounds transfer bugdet to the new manager, almost certain to be Paul Le Guen".
A sound argument if ever I heard one. His "almost certainty" is solely based on a hunch the ever clairvoyant Charles Young...
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My tip for a long time has been that Eck will be replaced by Souness as Director of Football with Graeme Roberts working as head coach.
Neither of them would say no if offered and there have been stories for a while that the mint would like to try that route.
Todays announcement by Murray is nothig short of a badly timed publicity stunt.
He has told the support nothing they did not already know and he blabbed again about the major investment and naming the manager after Villareal.
Theinvestment presumably is the sale of his steel business (Paul67 can you clarify?). He also must fancy they are going to lose to Villareal and be out of Europe.
An egomaniac who wants the heat off of him before Sunday and does not care about the effect on his manager, team or support.
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another thing about ecks sacking is ........why is murray not coming out and saying who'll take over the managers job ........ or is he leaving that till Monday morning .......to take even more heat of himself.......:-)
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not what I would call the best way to prepare for three big games, but then again what do we care.
How about Terry Butcher for tfod manager?
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OK………………………………......
You know that is been quiet in CQN………….
For the last month……………but not sure why………
Well its because bigjoehasbeeninNigeriabeingheldhostage
Unfortunately for you lot……………………
They let me go………………………
bigjoewhoisgled2beback
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Now I know most of us wouldn't believe a thing that came out of Murray Mints mouth but the one statement regarding the supposed investment that does slightly worry me is:
"We'll announce it when it's appropriate. We've got to do it with other people, when they want to do it,"
If this statement has any truth in it (hopefully not) it suggests that the money will be coming from another source (i.e. advertising - selling the stadium name etc) and not from the sale of his steel business.
Lets face it, although no-one with any business acumen would touch Rankers FC with a barge pole at the moment, I'm sure there are more things that a "raised trouser leg, show of the nipple and a dodgy handshake" can get you than a copy of this years accounts!
Dodgy dealing abound (again)
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Guigsy - maybe he just means that the next manager is already under contract at another club (Motherwell, Clyde : one of the top dogs) and Murray doesn't want to unsettle anyone there?
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Paul67 get your C.V. into Ipox A.S.A.P if you get the job we can start banking on your dominance theory:-).
Going back to the last blog, Keane gets himself and the ball forward quicker, bringing the rest of the mid-field with him. Our defence isn't IMO used to this, hence the gap between the back four and the mid-field last night. If WGS gets the defence moving up at the same time I'm confident things will tighten up all round.
Last night's performance was competent, another 3pts in the bag, with the other results a good night all round.
For Sunday I still think Lennon and Keane can be accomodated but it would have to be in a five man mid-field. Personally thats the way I would go 4-5-1, win the mid-field battle and I think they will collapse. As I have posted before their defence leaves a lot to be desired and is there for the taking.
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Roberts as caretaker manager till end of season & guaranteed a coaching position thereafter
Eck replacement is of the same nationlity as their new investors
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Why has he made this announcement today? I just can't get my head round it.
The only benefit I can see is that it may prevent a minor riot if we beat them on Sunday. But if McLeish continues to struggle in the league, the fans will protest demanding that a manager who is already leaving should be replaced immediately. Third (or lower) in the SPL is disastrous for Rangers.
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newtagggsybhoy;BlantyreKev;
Chairbhoy; PlatowasaTim;Rossio.
Real Radio.
I take some plesure from the apology that Ewen Cameron had to make. I was so incensed at the accusation he made that i emailed him,his boss,and his boss(x3) to complain, this is what i recieved:
Dear Sir
Thanks for your email to Billy Anderson at Real Radio regarding Ewan Cameron
and it has been passed on to me for response. There appears to be an
orchestrated campaign mounting against Ewan and the station from some
followers of Celtic Football Club and whereas we note your views, we do
however hope that you will understand the stations position with further
clarity as a result of this response.
I wish to point out that Real Radio does not and never has condoned any form
of sectarianism in its programming output and I'm sorry if you feel that
this is the case with the hugely popular Real football phone in which
attracts numerous guests with connections to both Celtic and Rangers
Football Clubs. Whatsmore the station enjoys extremely good relationships
with the clubs management, supporters clubs and supporters in general.
Our Programme Director Jay Crawford was an invited guest to the First
Minister's Summit on Sectarianism last year, and I can assure you that we
take this issue extremely seriously and understand the problems.
As far as our Football Phone in is concerned whenever the topic does comes
up for discussion it is important to understand that balance and neutrality
is essential but because of the subjectivity of the issue it will always be
difficult to please everyone and in that respect the presenters may
regularly be involved in vigorous debate with callers and guests in the
quest for accuracy and fairness rather than with narrow mindedness which is
one the definitions for the word 'sectarian'.
At Real Radio we do hope that all the clubs, fans and media can work
together to see all points of view. That's why we have a nightly people's
forum supporting free speech and in the main feel that true football
followers in Scotland enjoy talking about the game, its issues and
characters.
Judging by the huge numbers who have tuned in the make Real Radio,
Scotland's most listened to commercial radio station and also by the
enormous popularity of the Real Football phone in, since launch four years
ago this week, many people agree with this approach which is to entertain
and inform the communities it serves.
To conclude may I unreservedly confirm and point out that there is
definitely no bigoted hate campaign being conducted by Ewan or Real Radio
against Celtic FC and we are sorry if that has been the impression given to
you and others.
Please don't hesitate to contact me again if I can be of further assistance.
Yours sincerely
Jeff Stephenson
Head of Compliance
GMG Radio
Tel: 0113 3071400
Nice email but it didn't address the main questions i put forward.
1)Calling Peter Lawell a lier not believing anything he says,BUT still wants to ask him more question on the video.
2)Alluding that Celtic had whitewashed the whole inquiry into the video,(how can it be completed in three days)
3)Questioning Celtic's use of a professional Audio/Video person when no name had been given.
4)Assuming the video was genuine and hadn't been doctored, when it was sent in by readers of follow follow.
5)Claming that Hartson WAS involved as a second video shows him clearly lapping up the atmosphere, when the second video is widely known to be a fake.
6)Why is Ewen the only journalist who is running/perpetuating the story when all others have dropped it,is it the case that Hartson & Pearson have contacted their lawyers so as they can have a look at the accusations made against them?
Mick
As you can see he never answered the other point i raised.
How those at Celtic rebuke the negative press aimed at us.
Come on the HOOPS!!!
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Stevie21 - that comment was made in regards to the investment, not the new manager. Full transcript of that comment:
Murray also promised the announcement of a major investment in the club would still be made after the Champions' League ties against Villarreal early next month.
"We'll announce it when it's appropriate. We've got to do it with other people, when they want to do it," he added.
He refused to quantify the investment, but said: "Significant amounts of money will be coming into Rangers Football Club.
Guigsy
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newtagggsybhoy;BlantyreKev;
Chairbhoy; PlatowasaTim;Rossio.
Real Radio.
I take some plesure from the apology that Ewen Cameron had to make. I was so incensed at the accusation he made that i emailed him,his boss,and his boss(x3) to complain, this is what i recieved:
Dear Sir
Thanks for your email to Billy Anderson at Real Radio regarding Ewan Cameron
and it has been passed on to me for response. There appears to be an
orchestrated campaign mounting against Ewan and the station from some
followers of Celtic Football Club and whereas we note your views, we do
however hope that you will understand the stations position with further
clarity as a result of this response.
I wish to point out that Real Radio does not and never has condoned any form
of sectarianism in its programming output and I'm sorry if you feel that
this is the case with the hugely popular Real football phone in which
attracts numerous guests with connections to both Celtic and Rangers
Football Clubs. Whatsmore the station enjoys extremely good relationships
with the clubs management, supporters clubs and supporters in general.
Our Programme Director Jay Crawford was an invited guest to the First
Minister's Summit on Sectarianism last year, and I can assure you that we
take this issue extremely seriously and understand the problems.
As far as our Football Phone in is concerned whenever the topic does comes
up for discussion it is important to understand that balance and neutrality
is essential but because of the subjectivity of the issue it will always be
difficult to please everyone and in that respect the presenters may
regularly be involved in vigorous debate with callers and guests in the
quest for accuracy and fairness rather than with narrow mindedness which is
one the definitions for the word 'sectarian'.
At Real Radio we do hope that all the clubs, fans and media can work
together to see all points of view. That's why we have a nightly people's
forum supporting free speech and in the main feel that true football
followers in Scotland enjoy talking about the game, its issues and
characters.
Judging by the huge numbers who have tuned in the make Real Radio,
Scotland's most listened to commercial radio station and also by the
enormous popularity of the Real Football phone in, since launch four years
ago this week, many people agree with this approach which is to entertain
and inform the communities it serves.
To conclude may I unreservedly confirm and point out that there is
definitely no bigoted hate campaign being conducted by Ewan or Real Radio
against Celtic FC and we are sorry if that has been the impression given to
you and others.
Please don't hesitate to contact me again if I can be of further assistance.
Yours sincerely
Jeff Stephenson
Head of Compliance
GMG Radio
Tel: 0113 3071400
Nice email but it didn't address the main questions i put forward.
1)Calling Peter Lawell a lier not believing anything he says,BUT still wants to ask him more question on the video.
2)Alluding that Celtic had whitewashed the whole inquiry into the video,(how can it be completed in three days)
3)Questioning Celtic's use of a professional Audio/Video person when no name had been given.
4)Assuming the video was genuine and hadn't been doctored, when it was sent in by readers of follow follow.
5)Claming that Hartson WAS involved as a second video shows him clearly lapping up the atmosphere, when the second video is widely known to be a fake.
6)Why is Ewen the only journalist who is running/perpetuating the story when all others have dropped it,is it the case that Hartson & Pearson have contacted their lawyers so as they can have a look at the accusations made against them?
Mick
As you can see he never answered the other point i raised.
How those at Celtic rebuke the negative press aimed at us.
Come on the HOOPS!!!
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Think Murray has to wait till Clyde are out of the cup?
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Noel 6.26pm
Spot on
McLeish the sacrificial lamb.
But remember Mr Mint does not sack managers.
Welcome back bigjoe.
themnigerianswerebravetokidnapyouhowmuchdidtheypaytogetridofyou
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shurely
sacrificial succulent lamb??
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I have to say, the stories coming out tonight worry me slightly. Paul Le Guen and significant money is a frightening prospect. I know some of you are clearly confident it's not true, but there's no smoke without fire (well actually, that's not true in the world of Scottish football due to our esteemed media, but you know what I mean!).
Paul, do you have some reliable info that it's Roberts or did you just guess that it'll be someone like that as they have no cash?
I can't see Murray coming out and saying he has major investment and the new manager will have loads of cash if it's not true. Why would he do that? He'd just be leaving himself open for even greater abuse in 6 months time.
Not sure what this'll do for Sunday. Sometimes something like this can have a real positive effect, other times it can really floor a team. I suppose we'll have to wait till Sunday to find out!
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What a night!Having deccided to watch the match on ch67 at midnight I had to forgo my usual fix of CNQ to avoid hearing the result.Logging on in the early hours I was enthralled.What a match! Crunching tackles,goalmouth clearences,cries of foul play ,appeals to the gallery and penalties denied.As the match hurtled to a nervewracking climax an outrageous dummy is played.Having exhausted every reasonable avenue P8ddy declares he is going nuclear --he is getting personal--and promptly fires off a joke.Taking evasive action Kojo leaps to the high moral ground behind the inpregnable defence of hit me now with the child in my arms.Of the other players I was pleased with Dion Dublin and I felt Keane and Moloney gave us a glimpse of what might be.But my MOm has to be p8ddy
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Awe Naw, “hand grenade”, you bet.
Kojo, the mirror is working just fine.
I meant to say; Sir Isaac left a legacy that spawned quite a something. I get to ply my wares on the result.
Noel, the big seven-oh passed at the start of the week. As you were not about at the time I thought I would let the moment pass.
Will do John b.
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The Celtic game from last night is showing on CelticTV/Setanta in about 10 mins. When did they sneak that one into the scheduling ?
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Paul67
Do you think D Murray sacked eck to prevent yout fan fan story surfacing before the game on Sunday ?
:-)
NBNC
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Paul,
(or anybody else),
Is it possible that Le Guen could end up at the castle. Would he really want to come here with no European football - I just cant see it. These guys need the buzz that Europe brings and i mean the CL not UEFA cup.
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Rossio I agree with you slightly, I think there will be money. However, I think DM interpretation of significant money will be totally different to that of his customers.
I don't see PLG going there, except for the fact that he's stated he wants to build a team up from the bottom.
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I wouldn't totally rule out Le Guen. He has already walked away from football once - Rangers is the logical next step.
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I for one think the Celtic defence…………………..
has turned the corner………………………..
Ok………..we had a rough ride …………….in the last 15 mins…………………………..
But……………………………….....
But we only conceded 1.……………NOT 2.…………..
We held on ………………………………......
BigjoewhothinkstheTICareonthewayBACK
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Paul,
What are the chances that Murray is prepared to sell some or all of Rangers?
In some respects, doesn't the shifting of all Rangers FC debts to MIH make this scenario more of a possibility as he could pass Rangers off as "debt free".
Let's not forget that the last time things started to look so-so down at Ibrox, Murray bailed out to let others take the heat.
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NBNC, he is playing me like a flute in a marching band.
St Gris, cannot see it.
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p&ddy
You may be surprised to know that though some who seem to want to believe there is an us and them seem to include you in their "negative about everything" group I don't see you that way.
I believe you at least try to present your point of view and enter a debate willingly certainly with greater resilience than I can muster.
Its simply those who seem completely unwilling to see even a sliver of progress whom I find frustrating. They do not to my mind display any degree of objectivity.
Regrettably I've managed too many of them in my time to ever accept their consistent whining with any sort of equanimity. I've generally found that they are people devoid of original thought. I repeat that I don't include you amongst them.
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weeminger, you may well be right. I'd be surprised if it was any more than we spent last summer, but as we've seen, that can bring in a few quality players (albeit our clearout freed the wages). Mind you, if they buy 5 Paul Telfers, I'll be happy...
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Paul-the tension is rising chez John_H.All others banned from the PC for the rest of the night.
Bring on the Fan Fan story.
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JohnBhoy many thanx for the info.
Paul, any idea why there was no posting on the last thread for a new article. I thought noel had broken the blog again.
This is the second day runninig I have had this problem. Is it just me?
pablophanque
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I think that todays announcement was a feeble attempt to strike fear into the hearts of the celtic famliy ahead of sunday by making us believe that Le Guen or someone equally major is arriving with a big war chest with which Scottish football will be covered by a second darkness. Hope nobody in the dressing room falls for it.
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Paul,
How solid is your Roberts story- is it a theory or based on inside info? Personally, I'd love to see Rangers going for Roberts, Butcher, Davies, the Beast etc- that kind of calibre of a manager is indicative of a club whose ambition and standing in the game is diminishing.
However, I have it on v good authority that LeGuen is seriously considering Murray's offer, and that Murray himself is confident he'll join (and he's giving a nod and a wink to every journo who asks at the moment as well).
If they get LeGuen and can offer him a bit of cash, then I would be seriously worried.
If they go for Roberts etc, then I think it's time for you to dust off your "generation of dominance" article again!
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on real radio
david edgar from the rst amd ewan cameron, was a pure murray love fest as edgar had been supping at the bowl of the ego in the afternoon
edgar said i cant tell but it will revolutionise scottish football!!! clearly the mint has been spinning par excellence
among the gems tonight was edgar advertising their dinner at oran mor, guest speaker gordon smith who had given up his fee!!! u couldnt make it up
second las call was from scott who asked edgar why he associated himself with follow follow as it was a paurveyor of pure secterain bile, couldnt cut him off quick enough
clearly whole radio station is pitched toward the hun
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Anybody hazard a guess at how much this lad would be worth on the open market ?
Not that I would like to see him go........
noel.
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When Le Guen was being touted in the media to go to Mordor didn't Murray say the new manager was someone the media had NOT mentioned?
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One thing about Murray- he would be utterly utterly nuts to push this "substantial investment" line if there weren't any truth in it.
Makes me think that money is on its way to the Death Star.
More likely to be selling of stadium naming rights than anything revolutionary, mind.
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Big Joe:
Sorry it took so long to negotiate your safe deliverance from Nigeria.
But for the fact that some CQNrs would not contribute to your eventual release through the donation off Rioja wines has me like you i am sure, perplexed.
Between you and me whats the ransom demand for next month.That Rioja this month was Pureee Butaaa.
Noel;
Remember the old T.V. advert never hurry a Murray mint.
Says it all old son.
JonG
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18th and 21st Party
location - Ibrox
when............... Sunday @ 12.15
Please bring along your banners and balloons and confetti.
Pass this on please.
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There is no way P.LeG. will come to Ibrox -
I've been following Fr football for 20 odd years now and,no,
it won't happen
Take it from me, the word 'immiscible' comes into mind here.
On a side note, I think that the reputation of P.LeG.
is maybe a wee bit exagereated.
He inherited a VERY Good Lyon team and had absolute MegaBucks to spend
(in the SPL he will have Megapennies, if that...).
I invite you to look into what hew did before & since...
I think that somebody safe like Burley, Butcher, Souness, ... might get a run.
Roll on Sunday...
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Must be some truth in the LeGuen rumour, Murray wouldn't let Chug Young start the rumour otherwise. Why give the fans the impression of a big name if he knows he can't deliver ?
Other reason could be to dupe the fans until the season ticket money is in, then start back-pedalling about being let down etc. etc.
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You have a very valid point Italiabhoy. Why build the Orcs' expectation levels? Why lead them in to believing Le Guen is coming, only to unveil Billy Davis or Roberts.
Mind you, in my other life I've had first hand experience of listening to egomaniacs like Ebbers, Skilling and Koslowski come out with all sorts of crap as their respective empires of Worldcom, Enron and Tyco collapsed around them.
As always, time will tell; but there's a lot of stuff going on a Mordor that doesn't make sense.
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Supercelt;
18th and 21st parties?
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Jon-
we are 18 points ahead of the black mob.
Victory on Sunday will make it 21
DOH !
:P
noel.
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Hi all, Listened to radio snyde tonite (apoligies for doing so) but the last caller made the point that rangers are part of MIH which is over half a billon in debt and that if any investment was to come in, the bank would take the money. Kevins reply was that Rangers are an independent organisation and there fore this woulndt affect them. Is this true?
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NO
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WELCOME BACK B I G JOE ! ! !
noel.
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Murray has at least taken control of the media agenda. Last night fuelled by another game of two halfs (half rotten the other half worse) all the radio channels and this morning's papers were gunning for Eck (the players must wonder what they have to do attract the same level of abuse).
Now, and without question from any of his media lackys, the Mint has pulled a masterstroke (most of which he can't tell anybody about until after the Villareal game) and the sooks in the media are now lining up to kiss big Eck's behind and hail the 7 trophy wonder. Murray's line that Eck said in Jan that 4 1/2 years was long enough must rank as one of the most ludicrous statements ever uttered by the dignified one, like any manager would say that.
Still the Mint must be onto plan D or E now especially as he isn't going to be held to ransom by other clubs (Rae, Novo, The Georgian Diddy who's name I can't spell, Murray, Boyd.
Season tickets will be raining down onto the pitch on Sunday if we can get a clean sheet - no manager could survive that humiliation - clean sheet for us and big Eck may not survive to see the Champions League.
D (for dignified) Murray - Plan F
Sack Eck, hope that Newcastle employ him to clear up after the beast and start selling quality product at inflated prices into England just like before. Has anybody calculated just how much cash the beast put Murray's way with all the players he bought from Rangers - stewards enquiry surely.
I don't think there is a Fan Fan story, just as I don't think there is a Fan Fan - Paul if nothing else this multi armed and legged myth has its place tonight amid the Mint and Eck agenda that has highjacked even this oasis of all things celtica
Gerryb67
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David Murray is renowned for his spinning of tales.
He is obviously giving information to his lapdog newspaper men that LeGuen is the man but remember his quotes of 8th December last year and his 'for every fiver. . . I'll spend a tenner'.
His empire is crumbling at his, ahem, feet, so much so that he is selling his main profit making business.
Robert Maxwell by any other name.
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paul (+thismancraig)..prev thread.
meant no disrespect to wgs when i opined that mogga should NEVER get the celtic job.
(i believe in wgs, mega p%%%%d off with him over persevering with wallace at LB but hey no one is perfect ---apart from my two girls of course)
bit of a pub rumour -- source; friend of mccoist........ tom hunter and philip green investing????? hope not!
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Supercelt, Noel, and all half awake Celts:
Sorry!
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Did anyone else notice the subs at half time yesterday? Thompson, Pearson, Varga, McGlinchey and one other, knocking the ball about as a qunitet, Thompson geeing them on, buzzing.
I saw the celebrations after Roy's goal on Celtic TV tonight. Thompson was right in there, enjoying the moment.
Good to see his enthusiasm is still there. Can't be all bad in the dressing room. I'd love him to get a cameo role on Sunday, score one, kill a few demons.
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MoantheHoops - the caller was wrong, and unfortunately Keevins was right. The banks cannot demand that the any money is used to offset MIH debt, in exactly the same way that cannot force any of the profit making arm of MIH to divert those profits towards the debt rather be used eg to buy other companies.
This would only start to happen if the bank started to foreclose on the debts. And you never know, Murray might sell off other companies rahter than the Rangers , to meet his commitments.
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Chennaise-
I would love to see Alan Thompson stick one in at ibrox.
D O'V.
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Welcome back Big Joe !
Look what I did to the DEATH STAR !!!
D O'V.
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Bhoys:
I could be wildly out here,but,i have a feeling that the reason the "new monies" at Ibrox have taken so long to materialise is that,Forces off darkness have waited so long on the legal establishment finding a way around the MIH trap,that only now are they in a position to speak in lightly treading terms off the plan unfolding.
There main problem however over the past few years has not been to square the circle ,but how to keep the small cylindrical circle hitting the back off their net.
Rant over.
JonG
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JonG-
should that not be a " small spherical circle "?
Sorry to be pedantic but I do live in o n e.....
D O'V.
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For those concerned at David Murray's announcement,peruse these quotes from Dodgy Dave's interview with Ken Gallacher in June 2000.
Sound familiar?
"The money involved, the biggest financial boost for any Scottish football club, will enable them to move into Europe's elite over the next few years."
Did I blink and miss it?
"The Ibrox chairman has spent several months and many sleepless nights piecing together the plans which will eliminate Rangers' debt, currently sitting at around £40m, provide finance for the new training centre and the soccer academy which will be housed there, and still allow cash to invest in new players."
How many months does it take to ask your bank manager for a loan?
"The bulk of the rights issue is being taken up by myself and David King and some other smaller investors, including Alastair Johnston, who is a long-time Rangers supporter. We also have Trevor Hemmings coming in as an investor and Tom Hunter will join us some time in the future."
Tom Hunter - His name still cropping up six years on.Current total investment in Rangers?
"'Essentially, the investment we require is in place and we also have a major media deal in the pipeline which is very exciting and will bring in further serious investment to the club."
Another loan from NTL worth £20 million and shares in a company now worth the princely sum of £1 (equating to £15 million if it's Rangers accounts)
Let's not stop there.September 2004 announcing the new share issue.
"I have, however, consistently stressed that we will no longer be net spenders in the transfer market and the rights issue is not intended to generate surplus cash at this stage for investment in the playing squad."
Quite a leap from no longer being net spenders to significant sums being invested eighteen months later.A new off the cuff business plan perhaps?
December 2005.Murray meets the assembled masses to tell them who the next Rangers manager will be.
"Rangers chairman David Murray insists manager Alex McLeish was 'not even close' to leaving Ibrox."
Two months later he's sacked.
Does anyone notice the thread running through all these announcements?
As for McLeish and finding it hard not to like him,don't get me started.As a Celtic supporter his "unsurpassed dignity" comment alone,with all of the underlying nuances in that statement was enough for me.Well that and he is/was manager of Rangers.
What else do I need?
BankieBhoy
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heres my take on it after having to listen to the last 10 mins of the RR orange phone in. The hun on it advertised the hunfest in some pub then when someone asked him why he was involved with a web site which was bigoted the guy got cut off but the 1 thing that stuck out was when the bigot was asked if Skelly and farmer were about to put money in he would not deny it I dont know (and dont want to either) much about this guy but to me he made it plain that these guys were mentioned by Murray as investors and he will look a complete James hunt if it falls through. Lets remember they have had money in teh past and not done much with it and in reality you could argue they are more succesul in Europe this season than they have ever been without any money. Enough of my rant...btw now onto name 457 due to forgetting my password AGAIN
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There does appear to be a link between HBoS, Farmer and Green:-
http://business.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=368&id=1001902002
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Bankiebhoy, you make some good points and I fundamentally I agree-at heart Murray is little more than a snake-oil salesman with an ego the size of a planet.
If, however, he fails to produce LeGuen and a "revolutionary" financial package in 4 weeks time, I think that even previous imbibers of the "finest red" like Traynor, Jacksie, Leckie, Broadfoot, et al will find it difficult to continue to print his press releases.
He has to come up with something big, soon.
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all
hunter, murray, grossart, hemming, green, have all been given generously by HBOS. part of whats called the entrepreneurial exchange!!! a bit of a mafia - needless to say no major tims there!! tho ironically one of their biggest benefactors Peter Cummins at HBOS corporate is a season ticket holder at Paradise
It may be that the mint has persuaded one or more of them to throw more money his way
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Link to a link to last nights g o a l s
click on comments and sroll down.
noel.
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Murray is doing no more than scrambling for time.
He blundered in December when the Rangers fans were baying for McLeish's blood; promised signings that never materialised; spent nothing in January (£200k paid for Boyd, £250k received for Thompson).
Catalogue of disasters all going back to the oneupmanship he displayed when buying Tore Andre Flo.
I firmly believe he has nothing up his sleeve and this is yet more of the same from Chairman Bluster.
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Sir Paul,
Well I watched the re-run of the Falkirk Stramash,not once but THREE TIMES, And the word, STRAMASH, was a very appropriate description... ALTERCATION being another.
Falkirk's plan.....
Smash 'em... grab 'em... and if any get thro'... arm wrestle 'em to the ground!
Worked magnificently, for a time.
Clips of the clash will be shown as Teasers, by my buddy Vince, for the opening of the WWF. in Detroit..... biznez will be Boffo!
The above description of the Falkirk defensive set-up,was the sole reason that Celtic only managed to add only TWO GOALS in the first half.
Celtic, if they had been allowed to continue their sparkling build-up, deeper into the Falkirk Territory, would have compiled the Proverbial.
The second half, continued in an even more blatant and "They shall not pass.......and we mean, by any means" attitude.
When Falkirk did score, in one of their very isolated breakaways......
The goal was well taken. And Boruc was entirely hung out to dry....
The LAST TEN MINUTES was a NAIL-BITER.....no QUESTION.....
But we managed to Hold on... and Defied all of the ensuing Falkirk pressure.......they could smell the fear......and we managed to claim victory in the end.
This display of nervousness by a Celtic Defense,whenever we are guarding a one Goal lead in the DYING MINUTES........is by no means a NEW PHENOMENON....... this type of Scenario was a familiar one... in the MON era as well!
So Get used to it,pals....... it is the Celtic WAY!
The latter minute Jitters, is mainly due to the attitude of the Celtic FANS...... it permeates the air...... and settles like a stifling cloak that envelopes the players........ and thereby paralyzes the Celtic TEAM....
Don't believe me?......... I remember MON, himself, remarking that the MOOD of the CROWD is SO, SO, IMPORTANT... It can and DOES, EFFECT THE CELTIC TEAM ON THE PITCH! It is a TWO EDGED WEAPON.... CROWD EBULLIENCE AND ENTHUSIASM, TRANSLATE TO CELTIC TEAM EBULLIENCE AND ENTHUSIASTIC PERFORMANCE......... Naturally a REVERSE CROWD ATMOSPHERE.......NEGATES Skillful TEAM PERFORMANCE.
Meanwhile back at the RANCH...
I stand by my first impressions of the CELTIC INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCES...
The Celtic Players were all excellent..... On viewing Mr. PETROV'S PERFORMANCE TWICE MORE.... I have upped my last night's considered opinion, and moved him upward ...... He was ALSO EXCELLENT!
I do not see any need to change ANY OF THE PERFORMERS.....
They played.......not well....BUT EXCEEDINGLY WELL....considering there were 5 Changes to the previous eleven.
And a SECOND GAME TOGETHER CAN ONLY ALLOW THEM TO GELL,thus CAN'T HOIT!
I say that in MR. WILSON........ Celtic have SOLVED THE LEFT BACK HEADACHE.....
KEANO....what can I say! Super-duper!
The only change that I would make would be the possible insertion of BBJ. And that is solely PREDICATED on BBJ.'S past success in having an excellent average in scoring Goals, against the G.A......Not because I did not think that DIONO had a bad outing. As I have noted... He was EXCELLENT AS WELL...... A real FIND....He instills confidence and maturity, that is sorely needed at Times.
Naturally, if my suggestion is adopted by the Celtic Manager....... Mr. LENNON shall NOT START...
I said this before in my submission last night.
PAUL TELFER HAD THE BEST OUTING THAT HE HAS HAD, SO FAR.
The TRIANGULAR TRIO OF TELFER , KEANE and NAKA... was A VERY SUCCESSFUL ONE.....
They Linked up very well, and the INTER PLAY AMONG THE TRIO was at Times, a JOY.
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Noel:
Small spherical circle it is!
Bankiebhoy;
Hope you havent been hording that article in the hope that DM would repeat himself.
Nice one old son!
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Italiabhoy-
murray HAD to come up with something BIG before the transfer window closed.
It did.
He didn,t.
noel.
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I would not want Phillip Green anywhere near Castle greyskull. Major, major player this guy. Doesnt bat an eyelid about spending tens of £millions on hostile takeovers and spending buckets on advertising / marketing. He's a businessman with no ties to the huns other than his business tie up with Hunter. But.....I couldnt see him getting involved with a football club other than say Spurs, even then it would need to make him money. We've not traded a profit for 6 years and that was in a successful period. Naa - not him - bloody hope not.
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mmmmmmmmm makes u wonder
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St-Gris
Would the huns accept him with his name
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Paul,
Phillip Green?
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I don't think for a minute Le Guen willcome, nor do I believe that there is a major investment coming into Ibrox. The only way that this would happen, given the current value of Rankers is for a significant dissolution of the Mint's shareholding. I can't see that happening.
Even if Cameron, Young et als wettest dreams come true, why is nobody asking how this investment can be sustained. The whole team needs dumped and therefore needs an awful lot of money but how can they continue year on year without further investment. There are so many holes here it's untrue but yet again the Lapdog Loyal are quoting verbatum.
"The documents are with the lawyers"? GTF. The cheque will be in the post as well.
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St-Gris;
Common denominator.
Tom Hunter.
Make no mistake,they have been working behind the scaenes to concoct a whale off a project.
Money will be available no matter the opinion on here.
The problem how are Richard Gough and Stewart Mccall going to be able to work it out without the help off Sooonesss!
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JonG
No hoarding,honest!!!
I just done a quick internet check of Mr. Bombastic's duplicitous ramblings.
He may well come up with something yet although I seriously doubt it,but he has previous for peddling nonsense and as a result I treat every uttering from him with a real sense of disdain.
BankieBhoy
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bankiebhoy=top post
even if they were to get an investment of £15Million, could it all be ringfenced for players?
and it would only put them where they would have been if they qualified for champs league.
then it would be used to buy what exactly?????? medium level player a la petrov would be £4M fee + £4M wages.
the only people who should be worried are zsa zsa's bankers.
ENRON FC is in a right ''two and eight''
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They've also been working behind the"SCENES".
Sorry.
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Heres the top ten Rich List.
Green is 5th with 4.8 billion. Abramovich is 2nd at 7.5 billion - a serious player. Now you know why i'm concerned.
Name Worth Industry
1 Lakshmi Mittal £14,800m Steel
2 Roman Abramovich £7,500m Oil, industry and football
3 The Duke of Westminster £5,600m Property
4 Hans Rausing and family £4,950m Food packaging
5 Philip and Christina Green £4,850m Retailing
6 Oleg Deripaska* £4,375m Aluminium
7 Sir Richard Branson £3,000m Transport and mobile phones
8 Kirsten and Jorn Rausing £2,575m Inheritance and investments
9 David and Simon Reuben £2,500m Property and metal trading
10 Spiro Latsis and family £2,400m Banking, aviation and shipping
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I have just seen the David Murray interview on the BBC website. I think he was drawn into saying a little more than he wanted to ..
Q: is it Paul Le Guen?
A: I'm not going to comment on that. The last time you interviewed me you gave me nine names & you never got it ....(impersonates Keith Richards at this point)
David Murray did not promote the 'Paul le Guen' theory in the BBC interview - the BBC did.
9:47 PM, St-Gris - agree. I find it very unlikely that any investor is prepared to invest a material amount of money in Rangers on an ‘as is’ basis. Therefore, the more obvious possibilities are
1. The investment is to fund some or all of the ‘₤200m Hinshelwood masterplan'. (http://www.ofex.com/story.shtml?ISIN=GB0007237380&NewsID=21700). RFC received planning permission for this last September & although the casino part may be in doubt perhaps they plan to proceed with the rest anyway. Apart from reducing the interest on the overdraft I don’t see how this will benefit RFC in the short-term (the money will be used to develop the site, not the playing staff). This will probably generate significant extra income for Rangers over time.
2.Sell Ibrox & leaseback. This ‘Real Madrid flavoured deal’ could generate a big one-time profit if Ibrox is valued including the potential future profits of option 1.Murray is increasingly a property investor & MIH is debt-pregnant
3.Murray sells up. RFC will only benefit by the extra funds over & above that paid to Murray for his shares. Either he accepts a huge loss on his investment now or someone is prepared to pay an awful lot of money to secure control of the club (I doubt Murray would take less than ₤100m for his stake). This may be the case if a monied, informed someone believes Malcolm Glazer’s tarot card reading or sees huge future profits in option 1 above.
4. 'Jack McWalker’ scenario (this may be required in option 3 also) – Edward U?
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I just done a google search on ian Skelly to see what his links with the huns was and belive it or not it returned a link back into CQN from earlier in the year from Blantyre celt saying that skelly was quoted on RC as being a major investor but tonight was the firts time I ahd heard his name.
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And another thing.
Riordan
If TFOD wanted him so bdayly, surely they could have got a tiny advance on the "major investment". On the lead up to Christmas how many ordinary people max their credit cards/OD to pay off in the cold ligt of new year. While this International Brand of Dignity cannot go to the bank and sya any chance of an advance because we are getting all this money in the near future.
BFDJ stated last night that Hibs held out for £500k but at the last minute accepted the £400k only to be told by the Mint that he would not be held to ransom. You know they willingly peddle propagand but surely we can least expect them to construct sentences that make sense and don't regularly contradict themselves.
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hunter's name is certainly being thrown about by murray.
but then i do think murray is going slightly bonkers with his increasingly bizzare utterances.
how much do you think he regrets that ''tenner/fiver'' quote????
paul we need that fan fan story to lighten us up.............
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St Gris:
I am shocked at how out off date your list appears to be.
No Fargo.
No Kojo.
Update it now old son before you print it!
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Paul67,
Have you heard any whispers on what this investment is?
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With the carryon that's happening at Hearts the now.........maybe Murray's master plan is unveil Vlad the Mad as the new investor come Manager at ipox
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Test, TEST!!
First time blogger, long term reader, etc etc
Great site!
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Ooops silly me - hows this look now jong
Name Worth Industry
1 Lakshmi Mittal £14,800m Steel
2 Roman Abramovich £7,500m Oil, industry and football
2.5 Kojo gazillions mumbo jumbo
2.75 Fargo a weebit less gazillions nonsensical drivel
3 The Duke of Westminster £5,600m Property
4 Hans Rausing and family £4,950m Food packaging
5 Philip and Christina Green £4,850m Retailing
6 Oleg Deripaska* £4,375m Aluminium
7 Sir Richard Branson £3,000m Transport and mobile phones
8 Kirsten and Jorn Rausing £2,575m Inheritance and investments
9 David and Simon Reuben £2,500m Property and metal trading
10 Spiro Latsis and family £2,400m Banking, aviation and shipping
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At the moment, Rangers are heading for either zero UEFA income or pennies from the UEFA Cup. That will deter most decent coaches/managers ... unless they attract very, very substantial investment.
Their team is poor, although I think that a decent manager and coaches, like MON and co., could easily improve their performance dramatically. Even with that, they need significant investment in players and will incur costs in moving on the dross. Remember July 2000 at CP?
But ... if you are a top coach, one who has options with Europe's biggest clubs, and you probably already have a healthy personal bank balance, why on earth would you sign up for a real uphill challenge at bigot-central?
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Here's the deal or my guess anyway.
The mint didn't like the 'Murray out' chants, so carefully maneouvred to bin McLeish thinking that this, the mention of some potential future or mythical investment and the BBC (that bastion of truth and justice) leaking the Paul le Guen story would get him off the hook.
I'd love the 2 Jimmys to go to the Death Star - would be a match made in the devils fires
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Gerry maybe instead of Murray unveiling vlad the mad as the major investor maybe he will unveil him as the new manager
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Does today's announcement of "significant funds" tie in with not being held to ransom over transfer fees or paying said fees over three years? It seems at odds with it to me.
The men being mentioned on here tonight are businessmen who spend big to get a return.What will their return be at Rangers?Does anyone seriously think that if any of this came to pass,that it would be a philanthropic gesture on the part of these guys? "There you go David,spend my cash as you see fit".
Time to start applying a little logic here.There have been nudges and winks about new investment at Ibrox for over a year now.At each new low,rumours of a cash injection rear their head again.Now as things reach an all-time low,the story re-surfaces with a new adjective,"significant".Only time will tell if it is coincidence or not.
BankieBhoy
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The mint has obviously been up to something for a while. The (ahem) Revaluation of Ipox, the share issue to "clear" the debt, etc. He's defintely up to something though I reckon there is a good bit of bluster involved - he certainly knows how to play the orcs and the laptop loyal!
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Noel/Supercelt thanks for the link - Having now seen a replay of the 2nd goal I have to say I am even more impressed with the finishing of McManus' than last night - he clearly anticipates the flick kills the ball adeptly on his chest and clinically despatches it into the top corner - if it was Crespo the media would be raving
Last night Celtic had a strong spine and ribs for 80 mins - unlike recent matches the defence and midfield were moving across the pitch as a unit, the players interdigitated to prevent any through passes
Why did we struggle at the end? Nakamura was dead on his feet, Falkirk changed to 3 up front and we continued to press for a 3rd goal and left ourslves very vunerable to the break
WGS managed to generate an impressive change around from last week but he needs to be more decisive and pragmatic with his substitutions - why not on 75 mins, 2-0 up replace Nakamura with Pearson, Thompson for Majic and move Maloney up front
Still 3 points in the bag and an enjoyable evening of football
VertWolf
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Robert's for Rangers, mmm,,
Paul 67, surely this is an exercise in giving a story legs and seeing how far it can run, surely.
Record hot line tomorrow i guess
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BBC Scotland have just stated pretty emphatically that Le Guen will be the next manager.
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Phillip Green - not if he's as ruthless as I think he is - wouldn't touch Rangers or Celtic.
Would have to shut BHS/Burtons/TopShop/Miss Selfridge etc etc as no tims would go near them. (waddya mean noone goes near them anyway!?
At 8:38 PM, richard81 said…
When Le Guen was being touted in the media to go to Mordor didn't Murray say the new manager was someone the media had NOT mentioned?
I remember that too.....
Billy Davies or Graeme Roberts then.
I also find Mcleish difficult to dislike - Roberts no problem though. I have compeletely missed the whole 'dignity' thing though -don't know what planet I was on.
BBC Scotland now fairly sure its Le Guen - so it must be then...
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This rumour from a family friend who's allegiance is to all things blue but at present is very dejected with the govan power brokers - was at a posh do within the last 2 weeks, met Mr Bain, who was under fire from a few of the bears - Bain's comments were the hold off for the investment story (£120mil from an american source full stop) was to keep it to gazump our league triumph in the press within 24hrs of us clinching the title.
I offer nothing to confirm the veracity of the comments and was told this story on Tuesday from a dejected gers supporter stating he would not believe a word that came out of Dm/Mb's mouths. Then Alex cuts the cords on his parachute...
I have a feeling that this one has too much smoke not to have some fire.
My question would be and please enlighten me. Can a £120 mil investment go solely to their club ie pay their immediate debts and leave the rest to a war chest or does it have to travel through DM's grasp and debtors first?
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Vertwolf, 'interdigitated'
I think you have just won the 'Word of the Week' !
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Paul67
Great site.
Whatever happened to the post a tip box?
I have news from Hades that may be of interest. Nectar but not for general consumption.
Hermes
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supercelt
Great idea for 18th and 21st celebration Sunday.
Instead of bringing our hosts any pressies rumour has it they would prefer to have money, indeed they need a significant amount of it.
My guess is that their much promised gift might amount to no more than a pile of monopoly money however. I suggest a few £s and $ of toy money might be appropriate for a pre game scramble too.
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Gerry: apologies :) You must have been delighted at response from Ewan Cameron last night!
And before everyone gets carried away about Hunter how much is Mr Glazer of Man U worth and ehm how well are they doing just now? When will we learn Money cannot buy you everything you want in life!
As to Sunday how much fun will it be? Win and its 21 loose and its only 15! Perfection would be Lennon and Keane both scoring!
Can't wait:)
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greenlion2 ...........my post ........investor come manager .....:-)
Re.......Mr Green .........is this not the man who would invest 1M into a company but ...........expect a 2M return on the investment .......will, would he get that at ipox..........No
Murray has something up his sleeve .........but i don't think it will Rock Scottish football
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hermes
He certainly knows how to play the media but the ridiculous thing is that if Rangers went bust,these are the same journalists who would fake mock surprise and question how Mr. Murray could have let this happen when there was never any indication that something was wrong.
I find the role of Chick Young in all of this laughable,especially as an employee of the BBC.As an institution funded by the licence-payer on the premise of impartial comment,I find their style of reporting sensationalistic and tabloidesque.This while employing the likes of Traynor(DR journalist) and Gordon Smith(agent) to provide balanced comment.
Only in Scotland.
BankieBhoy
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Shammy
thanks though reading back I see my spelling is vulnerable !
VertWolf
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i doubt phillip green or tom hunter want to be a minority shareholder on a dodgu dave enterprise.......
my guess is he will have a manager who he can plausibly sell as someone who the fans would buy into...
that rules out roberts and billy davies.....it would be too big a job for gough and souness is soiled goods.......
my guess......maybe le guen....but if he comes it will have to be bankrolled heavily.........and the underlying business model does not support a spending spree such as happened under smith and advocaat....if you go out and spend £25 million on 8 new players....then you will add £12 million a year to the payroll......they cannott afford that on their turnover.....
the only massive investment will come if murray exits, and an abramovich character comes in.....even then it will be impossible to attract the best players to scotland...look at what happened the last time they were let loose in the candy store......they dominated against the kelly's and whites penury.....what top class players did they attract.....
butcher, stevens (x 2) woods, hateley....they only came because it was pre sky in england and the english were banned from europe....
gough and mccoll...scottish...if there is scottish gough out there just now he is pretty invisible....
gazza...6 good months in the spl....completely busted flush in europe....
laudrup.....an excellent buy.....however he was at a low ebb when they signed him....and he to never did it in europe for them...
so for them to get a group of top class players in will require abramovich type money......and that is not going to happen......
summation.........(guess)
coach....curbishley.......budget £10 million for players.....poss another £15 million to reduce the debt......
source of this new wealth....no idea !!
the media will spin it as the second coming and predictions of a 4 horsemen of the apocalypse scenario for us.......which is fair enough...their job is to sell papers and attact advertising £'s....
one final point to paul67....missed the boat on the fan fan story.....it might give us a chuckle on here...but it will never see daylight in the media....they have a much bigger story to follow now......
pity.....but thats what happens when you play poker with a guy who deals the cards....
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Bankiebhoy - going to stop making so much sense - you'll get yourself a reputation.....
BBC thing is one of many bugs of mine..its only the last year that they've gone the way of the Herald.
The last desperate acts of doomed media forms.
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Vertwolf-
"Still 3 points in the bag and an enjoyable evening of football"
Please take the job of CQN summariser at all matches.
well said [sincerely].
noel.
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Bankiebhoy if my memory serves me right was it chuck ying who told everyone that he knew for a fact that Gordon Durie was in Edinburgh with DM at that present time signing for the huns whne GD was really at a spurs player of the year dance in London
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Am I correct in saying that David Murray told the world that after his December meeting with his manager that he looked into McLeish's eyes and asked then asked him, "Alec are you up the task, do you still have the drive and ambition to manage this club? can you still turn Glasgow Rangers round?
Alec answered, "Yes Chairman, I am up to the task, I can turn things around"
the chairman then said " I could tell from the look in his eyes that he was still up for the task.
he then went on to promise the new investment and three new players.
they then won remained unbeaten for the next ten games and right in the middle of a winning streak, the chairman and the manager meet again in January and decide to terminate his contract.
Why would you sack your manager in the middle of a winning run and before the most important month of the season?
And what of his players? they have no reason to play for a lame duck manager, and play as part of a failed team.
So what if it is Paul Le Guin? the man was at Lyon for ten years and had the last three as successful ones. Nobody haad heard, or took any notice of him for the first seven years.
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So "Dagenham" Dave Murray says there shall be major invetment and hints heavily at Le Guenn being the next manager. Say he is the next incumbent at the hot seat in Snake Mountain.
Now say, perish the thought, the Margaret Thatcher XI beat us 10 nil on Sunday win every game they play from now on and win the league.
Will Dagenham Dave still go with a new manager? I would envisage the new man/woman coming in long before season end, any improvement in the side can be attributed to him. A further loss in form,if that is possible, can be laid at the door of one Cat In The Hat Eckmeister Esquire.
As to whom the next manager will be? I think the book of Revelations in the Bible makes note of a Beast rising when the FOURTH trumpet is sounded.
Or it could be Graham Roberts hee hee!
welcomebackbigjoeivenever
donethispostingwithoutabr
eakinthelettersandfinding
itaweebithard
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Philip Green is totally focussed on buying M&S, purveyors of pants to the not so rich or famous. If pants is his thing we should be very worried.
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Craig Beattie (I was beginning to think he had died!) to return to full training in the next 2-3 weeks. Hopes to be available for selection for the CIS Cup Final. Very good news. An automatic choice at the very least for the matchday squad. Bringing him off the bench for Hartson (or vice versa) suddenly presents the opposition defence with a completely different set of problems.
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Wanna Bru? ..don't think your far off the mark
Apologies to everyone for this but I've just watched the Mint's interview on Channel 431 (u know what it is), couldn't help myself
Now I didn't take notes but paraphrasing this is what was said...
Mint: we had a run of 10 games when we couldnt win , then 10 games undefeated.
Why then confirm that you had agreed with Eck in JANUARY that he was leaving? I thought he had turned it around????
Mint: The timing of the announcement is not how we planned it, but after 2 bad results something had to be said.
You make an agreement to sack the manager then wonder why you have had 2 bad results!!! Hmmm let me think about it.....
Mint: I was starting to take flak and thought that we needed to make an announcement
So, you saw the 'MURRAY OUT' banner at Pittodrie last night? You spineless tw*t.
Mint: I met with the supporters this week and showed them paperwork to prove we tried to sign 3 or 4 (??) top players.
It was Quashie (who wanted a 4 year deal and would have costs money for a transfer, so therfore was a no go) and Riordan (we offered fair money for a player who is on a free in 10-12 weeks)
Mint : We have major investment coming into the club that will bring an exciting ERA to R*ngers
What, again !!!
The man is losing it big time.
He is so desperate.
Ok, I wonder what Betfairs odds would be that the next major announcement is Murray Overboard from a Yacht rather than a major investment.
I have always compared him to Maxwell and nothing I have seen recently , tells me I am wrong
I know I shouldn't, but I almost feel sorry for Eck. Lucky or clever, the man has delivered for them. A damn site more than they should have had.
Murray is more than frightening, he is now appearing dangerous.
They are buggered
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Bankiebhoy
Totally agree. Ever since Traynors "succulent lamb" article he has been shown up for what he is. His phone in is one of the worst as he turns a national broadcaster (BBC Scotland radio)into his own mouthpiece cutting off and attempting to ridicule anyone who doesn't agree with him.
Chic Young is never taken seriously by anyone - surely??
Hermes
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Welcome back Big Joe
RE Last night's match. Think we played well to a man. Telfer was trying to play balls into the corner wher Magic was making runs. Okay they didn't all come off, but it's no crime to give the ball away deep in your opponents third of the pitch.
I honestly thought the only poor pieces of play where:
Magic's strange back-pass;
Naka's made one poor cross-field pass which was too obvious and too easily intercepted;
Not closing down Milne quickly enough before he scored;
Bobo made a bit of a howler, but I can't remember it clearly ... Damn you Mr & Mrs Artois
But for the denial of two pens we would have been cruising and the nervousness at the end wouldn't have appearred.
Can't wait for Sunday, I've had my U7s fixture brought forward and Mrs Corpachbhoy has let me buy the game from Setanta on my freeview box.
All the best
Corpachbhoy
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Noel
thanks for providing the soap-box
One of the points I fail to understand is how some spectators clearly do not appreciate that a football match is only truly enjoyable when there remains some doubt about the outcome
Surely no-one really wants to watch a team that is completely dominant - for me a 2-1 scoreline with some fantastic episodes of play by the Hoops and a gritty but ultimately futile fightback is a perfect follow on from a couple of decent pints and a chat about the characters on CQN
I wish we could all start enjoying this season - 10/18 points clear, Nakamura - probably one of the most skilful player ever to grace the hoops - young Scots breaking through into the team - we should be on cloud 9
VertWolf
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Vertwolf - I concur.
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Kojo
Your comments at 9.37pm are spot on.
2 nights in a row we have agreed.Now that is a worry!!
I have posted several times before about the poor home support and the fact that many continually get on the players back. You could feel the whole atmosphere change when Falkirk scored last night. I understand the reasons for the nervousness at this time but as you say it is not a new phenomenon.
A little bit of support at times like that would not go amiss. Howls of derision do not help.
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Vertwolf-
Excellent post.
Watch Estadio doesn't nick it.
noel.
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kirsty
Tried to post on previous thread about your support re. my Mogga comments. We seem to be in the minority so it can be put to bed meantime but I think I will have to raise it again should there be any chance of it happening.
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A tete a tete for sunday.
Waterreus
Ricksen Andrews Malcolm Murray
Lovenkrands Ferguson Burke
Prso Boyd Buffel
Zurawski Hartson
Maloney Keane Petrov Nakamura
Wilson McManus Balde Telfer
Boruc
Not my chosen Celtic XI just a hunch on what Gordon Starchan will go with.
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corpachbhoy
For a six year old your sentence structure is fantastic.But what are you doing up so late on a school night with a wife in tow?
The youth of today!!!
BankieBhoy
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Enough of this nonsense about Scotland 4th / 5th team they are of no real significance.
However I would like to pay tribute to Alan Thompson & Stan Varga who both showed real emotion in celebrating Roy Keane's first goal for the club. The delight in both players faces was a clear indication that all those who posted rumours about bust-ups behind the scenes were talking complete rubbish.
This can only augur well for the club with the harmony of the whole squadbeing important. Particularly as Gordon Strachan says he will pick horses for courses, so the entire squad will be used where suitable, which keeps everyone on their toes.
Another plus mark for the manager.
Not sure how Hearts will keep their squad hapy though but who cares about them. More of the same bhoys, build that lead up even more.
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Paul - after your assertions about Kenny Miller not possibly joining the Hoops, I'll take the Roberts prediction with a rather large dose of salts.
Or maybe FatBhoySlim has nailed it? A test-run for FanFan?!
Someone actually mentioned Souness and Roberts working together. They hate each other's guts!
With regards to Telfer, he is still the defensive weak link who singularly fails to stop the opposition delivering dangerous balls into the box. Has Gary Irvine not returned to full training yet? Remember - Telfer was only brought in after the youngster got injured.
Whoever mentioned the Monopoly money for Sunday, pure genius and a brilliant wind-up.
TTTT
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I don't agree VertWolf (and others).
Celtic fans are very polarised at present. I believe I am one of the few who genuinely sit in the middle and am undecided about Stracan's credentials and performance to date.
In saying that, while I am pleased that we are 10 and 18 points ahead of Hearts and Rangers respectively, and have reached the final of the CIS Cup, this does not mean all is well and Strachan is doing a great job. By this reasoning McLeish is a better manager than O'Neill (same number of trophies over a shorter reign in charge).
Rangers have been staggeringly inept this season. Hearts have shot themselves in both feet. Motherwell were very unfortunate. These are the main reasons for our current position.
It is the equivalent of lowering the pass mark in an examination form 50% to 30%. We can agree to differ whether the satisfaction of passing O Grades was the same as passing Highers, but the problem is that next season the pass mark, in all likelihood, goes back to 50% and we will fail (or have a deferred success as I believe it is now called). I do not buy into this generation of domination theory. More importantly, the pass mark in Europe will remain at 70%.
We are in a good position at least as much despite as because of Strachan. This season's performances would under other circumstances have not been good enough. We all seemed to understand that McLeish did not become Mourinho because Scott McDonald scored a couple of goals thirty miles from where he was standing, but we seem to struggle when the roles are reversed.
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Media
photo evidence- 2nd world war bomber found on moon
US Professor - why do the wing-tips touch both sides of a 500 km crater
Media
Bomber vanishes from surface of moon
Remind you of anything? Looking forward to our city rival's trip to Spain ...... and the aftermath
VertWolf
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williebhoy.. a lot of chat about them i agree but ''keep your friends close but your enemies closer''
the romanov debacle helps only 1 team = rangers ....but murray has blown that advantage by making mcleish a lame duck manager!!!
it is very poor business management by murray. and could only have been done because he was so sensitive to criticism.
what i dont understand....(well lets be honest one of many things in this world i dont understand)...
if big investment coming in, then there will be big feelgood factor, so why act desperately and let everyone know ur letting the manager go????????
only way i can fathom it is that they fear major demo if we knock a few in on sunday. this anouncement means no demo sunday no matter the result.
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To all of you - who cares. Not this celtic fan
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just watched david"snake-eyes" murrays interview on Scotsport.
The DADDY of knee-jerk reactions.
He knows the doomsday scenario-
Hibernian[home] LOST 3-0
Aberdeen [away] LOST 2-0
Celtic [home]
Hibenian(again)[home]
Villarreal [home]
2 DOWN
3 TO GO.
If they lose ALL FIVE -which is quite possible-the season ends there.
He is running scared
because he knows
that they know
it is HIS fault.
shoved ALL the blame
onto mc leish.
diddy.
noel.
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Watching SPL ?
Prize this week is 2 VIP tickets to OF game
So when Celtic are hopefully going 21 points clear, at which point tanks may be needed to clear the Rangers fans, they play the Kaiser Chiefs 'I Predict a Riot'
And the question to win ? Which ex Rangers player will join Celtic in the summer ?
Classic !
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Bryce Curdy
sure next season we will need to raise our game - but the the fact that this season has fortunately given WGS the chance to blood a near complete new team - lets just check
Boruc
Telfer Balde McManus, Wilson
Nakamura Petrov Keane Maloney
Dublin Zurawski
yep - only 2 players left from from the favoured first team last year - is surely a reason for celebration
Be assured I am looking at this purely from a pragmatic point of view - I enjoy the European nights as much as anyone but I really hope we have to fight for every SPL title
VertWolf
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Cheers Bankiebhoy
I need to be up this late to run my DVD pirating business so that I can afford all the alcopops me and my teammates drink in the park with our young beeatchs.
Off now to play Madahooha on my XBox
All the best
Corpachbhoy
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That's Scotsport SPL (sic) re last comment
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Corpachbhoy
Is that Fagus sylvatica or Fagus sylvatica 'Purpurea' that you are flirting with?
VertWolf
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kirstymccabecsc
I know from the Rangers fans I know that they increasingly believe that they are being lied to by Murray.
His bluster about investment and new managers isn't likely to cut much ice in the immediate term with the Rangers' support.Did suggestions of a new stadium in Cambuslang and new signings from the family dyansties appease the Celtic support? We know the answer.
I feel that he is now showing signs of pressure as you'd have to be mad to undermine your manager during of games similar to what they experienced in November.
Also,look at his statements to the media.In December he tells the hacks that he looked into the eyes of the Feckless one and knew he wanted to keep the job.One month later and he's telling the same hacks that Big Feck feels that four and a half years is long enough!!!
The biggest shame in all of this,although a well-established one,is that with the exception of a few journalists like Speirs,no-one is even remotely interested in taking him to task over these contradictions.
Despite this,I have a feeling that The Mint's biggest problems have yet to unfold.
BankieBhoy
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Vertwolf
That would be beeatchs in the 'street' vernacular for young lady of loose morals as opposed to what you're referring to. My personal favourite of those is obviously pinus sylvestris.
All the best
Corpachbhoy
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Paul67 - who'd have thought........ the Hugh Keevins of the internet (or blog). Roberts has as much chance of being the replacement as The Mint has of a job as pieman in the North Stand.
Alan Curbishley will be appointed in June and announced in 6 weeks.
Bookmark this!
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Big pow-wow tonight, been a bit busy.
Welcome Hermes, email me direct at 1967@lisbonlions.com
Investment at Ibrox:
David Murray is in negotiations to sell Murray International Metals for £120m, a division that made £22m profit last year. This is a division of MIH, as are Rangers. MIH had a debt of £556m at the last reporting date.
This money is needed by the group, taking this fact that is in the public domain and extrapolating player budget is not going to happen.
This info is fact, everything else you hear tonight is hyped speculation.
Rangers have been trying to squeeze every last penny out of the couch for some time. They are in dire financial straights.
They do not have a manager lined up at the moment (fact).
The possibility that they have done a deal with a top manager when they cannot afford the likes of Riordan, and have not got a funding package in place, and have no qualified for Europe next season does not exist.
David Murray in now buying time.
Fat Bhoy Slim, mark my words on Graham Roberts, he is the fabled 'Plan B'.
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Minnestella
I thought Murray was the pieman in the Govan stand?
VertWolf
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Vertwolf.
WRONG !
The pieman in the Govan Stand is.....
bfdj.
noel.
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Noel
mmmm......true, brown or red sauce with that?
VertWolf
