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Monday, February 13, 2006
Six years of Ibrox victories a new record for Celtic

For the third consecutive game, Celtic subjugated an ineffective Rangers team, producing one of their most controlled performances of the season.

In their 118-year history, this is the first generation of Celtic fans fortunate enough to have experienced victories at Ibrox for six consecutive years.

The central midfield partnership of Neil Lennon and Roy Keane was crucial to control of the game.

I held my counsel on Roy Keane when he signed in December, not having watched the player carefully for some time, but it is clear he is one of the best players at the club.

More than his play, he organised the entire team, ensuring the midfield kept their shape and the defence had enough cover to keep their first clean sheet in 13 games.

Maciej Zurawski is an absolute treat. People tell me he looks ungainly, but that has never been a qualification necessary for putting the ball in the net.

He makes diagonal runs creating options for forward passes and always manages to turn and retain possession.

Paul Telfer deserves special mention. Rangers tried Buffel, Lovenkrands, Prso and then Burke on him yesterday without success.

Shunsuke Nakamura was dropped to make room for Stillian Petrov on the right, a move that I was not in favour off, but one that clearly worked. Petrov languished on the right last season, but was full of running and vigour yesterday.

Gordon Strachan has now won successive games at Ibrox, Tynecastle and Easter Road, a sequence of victories that looked unlikely early in the season. Winning the game was important, it was also reassuring that he won a tactical battle.

While the objective of the day was to keep a clean sheet and pick Rangers off, dropping Nakamura denied Celtic most of their creativity. This will not work for every occasion, and will certainly not work against packed, attentive defences.

The most important lesson to remember after Ibrox, is that Celtic are still a work in progress. They are thirteen points clear at the top of the league and look like finishing the campaign with a hunger missing during the corresponding period last season.

Celtic will continue to get better.

Rangers decline has been spectacular. Eight months ago, I did not think it would be possible in my lifetime for Celtic fans to sing “Fourth in the SPL” at Ibrox, 26 games into the campaign.

Their youth development system has failed to produce SPL class players, their scouting system identified Kris Boyd, who has been dropped only a month after signing for the club.

They are now preparing to roll the dice one more time, with more pressure on them than has ever been applied.

If they fail with their next gamble, it is difficult to say just how low they could fall, but that will not stop us guessing anyway.
Posted by Paul67 at 1:29 PM :: 

314 Comments:
  • At 13/02/06 13:36, Blogger RogerMilla said…

    me?

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:36, Blogger RogerMilla said…

    no way i got first it must be a trick!!

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:37, Blogger MolesRus said…

    Anyone who has been posting / reading CQN regularly this season will be aware that there was a huge anti Bobo lobby up until the point he went off to the Africa cup. Would any of the guys who were so adamant at that time that Bobo was a Dud care to give us their views now? I've been following Celtic since the 70's and would name Bobo as the best defender we've had in the last 30 years.

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:38, Blogger kirstymccabe-csc said…

    not quick enuf

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:39, Blogger kirstymccabe-csc said…

    the independent newspaper article is wrong , isnt it?
    if the current buns finish 4th they WILL qualify for europe. as long as hearts or hibs win OUR cup.

    (cmon accies, do them out of a european place :-)

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:40, Blogger John_H said…

    Good post Paul-but must mention BBJ.Maybe not MOTM but defo TIM of the Match.We let this guy go at our peril.

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:41, Blogger John_H said…

    Molesrus-I'd go for big Mjallby

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:43, Blogger kirstymccabe-csc said…

    a rangers pal of mine with boardroom connections.........if u want some pakora he is ur man........

    has told me the big announcement is ................
    COCA COLA............

    IF THATS THE CASE WHAT EVER DEAL THEY HAVE DONE WITH STADIUM NAME WE CAN SURELY REPLICATE......?

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:43, Blogger jquinn67 said…

    Kirsty they will only get the UEFA Cup place from 4th if Hibs and Hearts meet in the final, otherwise it will be the defeated finalist.

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:45, Blogger Giz A Huddle said…

    Paul with all the rumours still pointing to Le Guen being their next manager do you still stand by your Roberts story.

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:46, Blogger Notgotmuchleftgasinhistank! said…

    Had to laugh at Joke Broon yesterday, he let us know that their fans had started leaving early.......at the 92nd minute! They were probably paid time and a half to stay the extra half hour!

    As for the so called "2nd Ibrox Revolution" (copyright Mr Davie Provan esq)about to hit us. Dodgy Dave has forgotten that the first one had happened before he arrived and that Celtic are a very different club to the one they took then. Add to this the fact that PLG will probably be looking to the French league for players and not Engerland as Souness did, very few of the top French players would seriously consider coming to Scotland to play. As for the lesser mortals of the French league too many of them have came through the Nancy youth academy to cope with having their ankles broken by the likes of Scott Brown, et al.

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:46, Blogger Frank from Bedlington said…

    Yes we should not be worried by Le Guen but he should command our utmost respect.

    3 consecutive league titles with Lyon and a better champions league record than us is not to be sniffed at.

    21 points or whatever it finishes can be turned around in one season as Martin O'Neil proved.

    There is no point in pretending (as some are doing here) that he is anything other than a top class manager.

    Apologies if I misquote paul67 but I recall that in one one of his articles around the time of GS appointment he advocated Le Guen as the sort guy he would pursue if in charge.

    We need to make sure that we make the correct player recruitment decisions in the summer to ensure that we maintain an advantage over them.

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:49, Blogger Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    Xavier,

    first on the boards but last in the pub!!

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:50, Blogger BromleyBhoy said…

    A few thoughts:

    1) Roy Keane - he is the complete defensive midfielder. Looked unflustered throughout the 90. Even when he made his 'rash' challenge for a booking - he made a cold and calculated decision to preven the break. He will certainly help in the Champions League next season.

    2) Neil Lennon - played a good game... but the truth is that for the best Celtic side RK and NL should not both be in. WGS is going to have to make that decision soon as well. Celtic have some breathing space and are now going to have to take the opportunity and experiment - to blood youngsters, find plan B backup formations - ready for next season and the CL. We know NL (a great servant) should NOT have his contract renewed (thanks for the memories) so he sadly should not be a part of these preparations.

    3) McManus - I'd just like to say I was (and still am) one of his critics but thought he had a good game on Sunday. Still think for a big guy he gets beaten by headers far too often.

    4) Maloney - poor game by his standards - but he still has loads to offer in other matches - would have been tempted to swap him for Nakamura.

    5) Dublin - seems good backup to Hartson (though nowhere near as good) - still hope he is allowed to leave at then end of the season - and during our experimenting hope we see if younger players can step up.

    6) Telfer - still the weakest link for me - caught to far upfield - lacks pace - poor passing. Can't help but believe the rumour that he is WGS's 'eyes and ears' in the dressing room so will not be dropped. Jeez we play a very promising youngster (always a recipe to mess up players) out of position to accomodate him. I still hope eternal that WGS will see sense on him but doubt it.

    7) Delighted with the result - I can't help finding the whole Le Guen thing amusing. Lyons played very well but they were already top of the French League (a very well structured league in terms of youth development) when he joined. I'm sure he has talent but a lot of managers find the UK unique in style (more robust) and there is every chance with the poor crop at Rangers (bar Burke and Buffel) that he will struggle even with some decent funds.

    B

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:51, Blogger Tom64 said…

    I for one can not figure Kris Boyd being dropped. He is the current highest scoring player in the SPL.

    What is the rational for that?

    Still, not going to lose any tears over it.

    Soooo good to be a Tim right now.

    As supporters we need to take a longer view. There are some that panic from week to week over the positioning of a player or over 90 minutes of performance.

    Hey, whatever floats yer boat!

    The fact is, as Paul has pointed out, we are in a position of ascendency. The facts all bear that out. 'Generation of dominance'? Well maybez aye.

    We're first in the SPL
    We're first in the SPL
    We're first in the SPL
    We're first in the SPL

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:51, Blogger Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    Stubbs, Mjallby, Wieghorst & Rooney obviously have more generous brothers than I do to get a brief for the game. Ggggrrrhhhh!!!

    A few points on the game.

    We were good but not great. We didn´t need to be.A very solid team performace that reminded me of the MON era pre 2005. In complete control almost, A second goal would have helped my complexion. It ages me those last 10 minutes.

    The greek Tradgey should have walked as should have Stephen "Boyd" Thompson I saw no difference between their fouls and RK except RK was more professionally carried out.

    Lenny and Keane as I have been banging on for weeks now is the same as Lambert and Lenny. Dion Dublin done well also - what if that one had sneaked in. Sell BBJ he doesn´t care and hardly moves - aye right. All those budding fitba gurus should bleib jetzt schtumm!! For the sake of their own credibilty. Lets lay of WGS now and give the man a big pat in the back by finding a song for him.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:57, Blogger Parkheadcumsalford said…

    molesrus@1.37pm,

    I'm definitely one of those who was in the anti-Bobo camp. He was dire for the 2 years between ACNs. He can be a tremendous defender if he simply clears his lines. When he tries to play football in his own area (as against Livingston), he is a disaster waiting to happen. I have been watching Celtic since the mid-50s and I think we have had plenty of better defenders than Bobo. But long may he give his all for the jerseys, as he certainly does, good bad or indifferent.

    Paul,

    indulge me in a bit of whimsy: I used to be a very near neighbour of the very young Crocky Bhoy, Wayne. I wonder if my promoting of all things Celtica rubbed off. Anyway, he was an Evertonian to his bootstraps in those days. If he fancies following Roy Keane to Parkhead, here's hoping he doesn't sign another contract at Old Trafford and comes to us on a Bosman. I doubt we could ever afford him otherwise.

    I wonder how Murray could afford Le Guen. Still he would be a very formidable opposing manager.

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:59, Blogger Paul67 said…

    Giz A Huddle, they are making a big pitch for Le Guen, which I expect to fail. Let’s see.

     
  • At 13/02/06 13:59, Blogger MikeyBhoy said…

    molesrus,

    my view on Bobo is still the same. He is overpaid (not his fault admittedly) and has poor distribution. He can be gaffe-prone.

    He is good at defending, probably the best at the club as you say, but is never in a million years a footballer.

    If he was on £15K/week I would be his biggest fan, but £29K/week could get you a real top drawer player.

    He played a blinder yesterday and I can't remember him ever having a poor game against Rangers.

    thats my $0.02 worth

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:09, Blogger dandelionskill said…

    Are all the huns playing hide and seek today? cause if they are - would somebody please tell them that they’ve won and they can all come out now.
    The usual hordes in my workplace are nowhere to be seen and me being the eternal worrier is getting a wee bit feart for them.

    Come out! Come out! Wherever you are.

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:11, Blogger Ardoch said…

    21st comment, i just love 21!

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:13, Blogger big liam said…

    I'd stick my neck out and say that telfer was clsoe to getting the MOM award. I thought he had a fine game.

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:13, Blogger Druiddude said…

    BromleyBhoy @1.33
    I agree with your view "that Maloney had a poor game by his high standards" in so far as it applied to his creative game.However I think his contribution in work rate,being avilable for a pass,covering back and tackling was very good.While I am a huge fan of Nakamura I do not believe that he can offer as much when his creative game is stifled.I believe that Naka is the more skillful player but that Maloney is the better all round player.I think on this occasion our manager got it spot on.

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:14, Blogger rimtimtim said…

    What could attract Le Guen to Glasgow?

    the "auld alliance"?
    friendship with DM?

    The Spanish media reckon Le Guen is Real Madrid manager potential. If their current manager Lopez Caro can do a Del Bosque then that job will not be up for grabs. However the press here will be baying for him if things go pear shaped (again)in Madrid. Unlike Keano, Le Guen will probably opt for Madrid rather than Glasgow. It would seem logical that after his sabbatical year he will be looking for a bigger challenge, a bit like Strachan did

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:15, Blogger bhoyobhoy said…

    Great professional performance yesterday

    Telfer only survived 4 different players as Lennon was always there as a spare man to cover. Celtic always had a spare man on the pitch as Ferguson refused to cross the half way line.
    Tactics this time worked a treat and Lennon's best game for months...and Mr Keane was excellent going forward.

    Anyway does anybody know when you have to apply for next years Inter Toto Cup? Might be worth a laugh watching next year!

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:16, Blogger brianboru said…

    thought celtic had a commanding performance, checked the papers first thing...still no broken crest, never mind happy dayz !!

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:17, Blogger BhoyinEngland said…

    Hi Paul

    Do we know if Le Guen is stiil in the running for the Real Madrid job? If he was, then there is absolutely no way I could see there being any competition. Real would surely be far more attractive. Well, in truth just about anywhere would surely be more attractive.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:17, Blogger Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    13 points clear and 21 ahead of Rangers so lets put a few media myths & CQN bloggers assertions to bed. Right now

    1) Roy Keane and Neil Lennon cannot play in the same midfield. If we are needing a point at the Bernebau next year this combo will be perfect.

    2) Roy Keane is passed it. At least 2 more seasons in him

    3) Neil Lennon is passed it. How old is he compared to RK ?

    4) Bobo Balde is a donkey

    5) That the SPL oppostion this year is somehow inferior to last year.

    6) That this Celtic team is inferior to last years Celtic. The table does not lie.

    7) That Dion Dublins signing was an act of an unhinged manager.

    8) That RK has been upsetting the Celtic dressing room with his ego.

    9) That Zurawski is not the real deal

    10) That BBJ is just hear to pick up the pay packet and is waiting for the next big transfer.

    11) That there is some other reason that Rangers are not in the latter stages of the CL other than being the luckiest team in the CL competition since its inception.

    12) That the MIBS penchant for favouring Rangers isn´t ABSOLUTELY true

    13) That Telfer is a Donkey

    14) That WGS teachers pet is Nakamura and that he will play him no matter what.

    15) WGS only wants to play pretty football the Celtic way

    Please feel free to ad to this list

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:18, Blogger rammiebhoy said…

    Le Guen was indeed talked about on here, at length, as a potential successor to MON.

    There is no doubt the man should be respected for his achievements.

    Logically, why the hell would he want to agree to join The Mint FC unless ther is something significant happening with their finances?

    The information is in the public domain and is grim reading.


    This could be the biggest indication yet of what is to come.

    I believe the only way he will join them, is if there really is a 'BIG' announcement and additional funding.

    If he doesn't, I seriously hope Clyde hold out for as much compo as possible :-)

    My only concern is that The Mint has painted himself into a corner this time. There is panic, to the extent that personal abuse meant he had to make last weeks statements about Eck and take some of the heat off.

    He cannot afford to do nothing. He cannot afford for the announcement not to be BIG.

    Are we watching the last days of a Maxwell, or does he really have something up his sleeve???

    The failure to land Le Guen would set them back years and it would cost The Mint even more money trying to appease everyone.

    This makes me think that he will spend whatever it takes to make the position so attractive to Le Guen that he couldn't turn it down.

    I hope I am wrong, not that I fear Le Guen, just that the damage inflicted would be incredible.

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:19, Blogger bhoyobhoy said…

    ..and if there is any truth in the Coca Cola rumour (you heard it also tastes like McEwan's lager! Still don't drink that crap!), then it's pepsi or virgin for me!

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:21, Blogger BlantyreKev said…

    I predict a riot.

    We should have the league sewn up by the split. What's the betting we blood Lawson, McGlinchey, Gardyne, Bjarnasson, O'Brien and Ferry for each of the post split games except Rangers at Celtic Park.

    I can hear the calls for an enquiry now as the establishment club fights to hang on to the Uefa spot.

    Hibs and Kille to win at the weekend and........

    You're fifth in the SPL.

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:22, Blogger Billy Hamilton said…

    As one of Lenny's critics, I thought he had a great game, more like himself at the start of the season. Crucial to the victory was being able to rest BBJ and Lenny, haven't seen BBJ cover as much ground. We shouldn't get too worked up about Stan having to switch positions to accomodate our 2 terriers, as it was all for the greater good. Now others such as wee Shaun can also have his rest.

    Hail, Hail.

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:28, Blogger the right rev. david hay (preaching pure football) said…

    lhads, gonnae stop postin stuff uve already posted.
    everyone sees what uve written on previous thread.

    its gettin a bit repetitive...repetitive...repetitive

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:28, Blogger johnM said…

    Even if Le Guen turns out to be the new Rankers manager, who cares? Why should we be worrying? That's what they want us to do.
    As long as we keep our own game plan going, that's all that matters.
    If he does sign, I'd recommend a one week rolling contract and, as for Mme Le Guen, I'd rent rather than buy if I were you.

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:28, Blogger the right rev. david hay (preaching pure football) said…

    lhads, gonnae stop postin stuff uve already posted.
    everyone sees what uve written on previous thread.

    its gettin a bit repetitive...repetitive...repetitive

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:29, Blogger p8ddy said…

    They say there's no show without punch, so here goes -

    Whilst I am ecstatic about the result yesterday - Beating Rangers is great, whatever the standard - I think we are deluding ourselves a bit here. Rangers, for instance had the better chances in the match yesterday. Celtic only had one shot on goal. One shot. Rangers had at least three clear cut chances they should have scored with. Considering we set up so defensively, I dont think the rearguard were particularly inspiring.
    Strangely, and in keeping with my apparently opposite view of the game, I thought Maloney was excellent. He kept possesion when it was needed, he showed pace and fight and was always available to take a pass, to work back and he put a shift in. I was pleased with Lennon and Keane, and I thought BBJ put in another excellent 70 minutes. At the end of last season I'd have happily sold him - I think I've been proven completely wrong about Hartson. Certainly, I've changed my opinion of him completely.
    I still think there is little shape or discipline to the team. Witness Mark Wilson at one point running diagonally toward the right wing with the ball, to me, a no no.

    I think also it's fair to say that Rangers true position this season is 4th in the league, they have shown consistantly that is their level - which is why the performance yesterday worries me.

    If Rangers get Le Guen and he has one iota of tactical nous we'll be easily beaten. The defence cannot cope with guys running at them and firing balls into the wings. Each Rangers chance came from those sectors yesterday.

    As I say, I'm pleased, but I'm not convinced, not by a long shot. I am fearful what a decent European team will do to us. Our Manager edserves credit for getting us intot he postion we are in, but we should be mindful of the circumstances surrounding the position. If WGS is still in charge next season I'll not be confident of us doing anything in Europe, and an even marginally revitalised Rangers will present a much sterner challenge.

    OK, I'm off to throw out any cans of Coke I might have in anticipation of the "announcement" :-)

    /p

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:35, Blogger p8ddy said…

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo...

    6) That this Celtic team is inferior to last years Celtic. The table does not lie.

    Last years team - 65 points This years - 64 points.

    You're right, the tables don't lie. Who's better? ;-)

    Sorry Aw_naw.. couldn't resist it.

    Paul67...

    I hope you are correct regarding Le Guen. He's a problem we could do without.

    /p

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:36, Blogger dumbhoy said…

    I'd like to teach the world to sing the sash my father wore
    we're up to our knees in fenian blood and Lennon what's the score?
    The billy boys, we'll make some noise and Follow Follow too
    ee ay ee ay ee ay oh and the one where the sea is blue

    Yes, that's the songs they'll sing

    Coke is................

    DEFINITELY BANNED IN MA HOOSE if this comes off!

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:37, Blogger RogerMilla said…

    a great win in ibrox, the first post.. i need to crack open some champagne here...or maybe go to the pub...

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:40, Blogger rimtimtim said…

    p8ddy,

    If you go 0-1 up against your oldest rivals in their stadium and are 18, going on for 21, points ahead of them then the best thing to do is to soak up what the other team can throw at you. If Celtic were to go 1-0 up against Villareal away from home you would play to protect that lead, no?

    Scoring goals is the hard part. It had an added advantage yesterday as Rangers had not scored in their last two matches. It would have been a great psychological blow to the current scottish champions to have been unable to score at all in their third match, and their third match against us. It has to be different horses for different courses as well as the glasgow celtic way

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:47, Blogger Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    P8DDY

    Witness Mark Wilson at one point running diagonally toward the right wing with the ball, to me, a no no.

    errm why not ?

    If there is space exploit it. Especially if you have cover. Ever seen the 1970 Brazil team ?

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:49, Blogger Martybhoy said…

    Aw Naw,

    Top post...loving the positivity there.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:49, Blogger Arranmore said…

    Does the result yesterday make Le Guen coming more or less likely? The Guardian is now saying the huns will have an answer by Wednesday this week. Surely it's got to be a 'non'? As previously said, surely he'd only come if there was loads of dosh on the table, but would he come with loads of dosh on the table but no Champions League in the first season?

    As for Coca Cola - has anyone bought one pint of McEwans Lager since they hooked up with the manky mob way back in the 80's? I'm off to add Barrs shares to my (Celtic) portfolio.

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:54, Blogger Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    For all those concerned about Le Guen. Get a grip.

    It hasn´t happened.

    Anybody remember Dick Advocaat ?

    Murrays millions. Do me afavour why would anyone invest Heavily in Rangers just now ?. It would take 100`s of millions.

    Houllier never won the EPL - how much did he get.

    Tigana how much with Fulham ?

    Errrm The French bloke at Portsmouth !!

    Stop buying the wet dreams fuelled by Murray of the laptop loyal and gie us awe a break. Even if Le Guen does come ?

    This is all orchestrated to take the aim of the target of the real issue. The MESS that Rangers are in. Only Burke and Hutton showed for Rangers yesterday imho. They are not even Ecks signings!!! The promise of more jam tomorrow will keep th ebaying hoardes at bay. Well those that buy it AND THAT SHOULDN´T BE US!!!

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:54, Blogger supercelt said…

    just back from the game.

    Can we play them everyweek?

    Roy keane absolutley outstanding. A born leader.

    An amazing experience capped of by the 0-2 scoreboard. :))

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:55, Blogger pablophanque said…

    Up until last year (I think), Scotland was the only country in the known universe that Coca Cola was not the best selling drink, beaten by Irn Bru.................

    Guess what's going to be No.1 again if this story is true. BTW I've never drank a McEwan's product since, and I don't think I'm the only one?????

    pablophanque

     
  • At 13/02/06 14:57, Blogger dumbhoy said…

    Arranmore

    The Barr family are big spenders at Govan and have been for some time so you'll need to add the Bru to your banned list

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:04, Blogger dontbrattbackinanger said…

    If Leguen did sign would he become in the immortal words of Homer Simpson'a cheese eating NO SURRENDER monkey'?

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:07, Blogger FirsbyHoop said…

    I'm not 100% convinced that le Guen will not be the next Rangers manager, but it looks to me like classic Murray spin.

    We have just beaten them for the third time this season, they are 21 points behind, they are rank rotten and will be lucky to qualify for Europe. What's the main news? They are about to unveil one of the most sought after coaches in Europe and will give him millions to spend next season - cue domestic and European domination for years to come.

    Consider also Murray's track record. Jardel was done and dusted at one time, wasn't he? Oh no, there were some "red-tape" difficulties that meant he was absolutely gutted about it, but couldn't join Rangers.

    Remember in the late '90's when Rangers came so close to signing Ronaldo? They were serious contenders claimed Murray.

    Then there was the infamous Ken Gallacher report which was based on nothing more than Murray puff.

    After the 6-2 game, Murray indulged in more spin. They signed de Boer who spent many months on the sidelines with a knee injury, yet rejected BBJ after he failed "the most stringent medical in Rangers' history." In reality, Murray had no intention of signing BBJ, he just wanted the world to THINK they were about to unveil two major signings, only for one to unluckily fall through.

    I would not underestimate le Guen, but neither would I be overly concerned about him. He will need mega-bucks to improve this lot, and with their financial situation, I doubt very much that will be forthcoming. Murray said new finance would be revealed late last year - nothing. Three "proper signings", in the end one, and no cash for Riordan.

    To my mind, Murray just wants us all to THINK that they are genuinely in the frame. To THINK that they are about to sort out their financial situation, and to make sure that attention is diverted from the reality. So far, he has succeeded in that if nothing else.

    To anyone concerned about le Guen, just remember Murray's history.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:07, Blogger celticbhoy said…

    Arranmore
    I remember standing in a queue at CP when Rangers were sponsored by McEwans Lager when what draws up but a beer lorry delivering this poor excuse for beer to the very doors, the looks and comments it generated well you can guess.
    dumbhoy
    Seems we will have to take the Pepsi challenge next year.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:08, Blogger Kano said…

    P8ddy,
    you talked the other day about the "language" bringing the tone of the site down.
    There was also the inference,however vague,that if there wasn't some sort of control exercised over it you would throw your dummy out of the pram once again and refrain from posting.
    Believe me your negativity,although couched in what you would consider "better" language,would not be missed.

    Your criticism of Wilson for having the temerity to run with the ball into space is galling

    Once again,all you can see from a thoroughly commanding performance at Ibrox is that Strachan is not the man for the job.

    Your statement "if Le Guen has one iota of tactical nous we'll be easily beaten" is complete nonsense.

    Your constant aguement,if you call it that,is that there is merely opinions and no-one is right or wrong.
    Well let me say,you are quite often wrong as you are once again on this thread.
    The defence did play well,and Wilson was correct to take the ball into space.

    And also the joke on the previous thread about Presley was funny.Now there is a matter of opinion.

    Well done to the manager,and all the players.There was not a poor performance on the park from anyone in green and white.
    Take all the plaudits you can from this,because the next hiccup will be awaited by bated breath by some,and the hatchets will be out again.

    Hail Hail

    Happy Kano

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:09, Blogger PlatowasaTim said…

    OKAY. I"LL PUT MY HAND UP!

    I was convinced that Keane and Lennon could not play together, in a midfield four. I was wrong!

    I posted yesterday about LeGuen becoming their manager. However, he has an almighty task on his hands, to turn that round in a season.

    If he comes, the hordes of hatred will be expecting dramatic improvement immediately. There will be no second chances for LeGuen or Chairman Dave!

    However. Does he have a club in France, which he owns? That way, his club in France can sign the new players and R****** can have them, on four year loan deals!!

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:11, Blogger TheGodfather said…

    We should all remember that Paul LeGuen is no magician and will have to work within the confines of Rangers financial restrictions.

    Paul Daniels might be a better choice.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:13, Blogger thismancraig said…

    I'd argue that Rangers never had any clear cut chances. They had opportunities to create clear cut chances but did not convert them.

    Mark Wilson's run was an excellent example of a player taking the initiative and exploiting space - he ran condidently with his head up. Hardly a blind charge!

    On LeGuen, I'm totally relaxed. He will be a short term appointment at best. This club needs a shake from top to bottom including a restructure (implementation) of the scouting network, a revolution at the youth levels...John Brown coaching??? I think not.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:13, Blogger PlatowasaTim said…

    Martin Rowan

    Are you a disgruntled ex - employee of "Keep the Faith"?

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:14, Blogger Martin Rowan said…

    www.keep-the-faith.net now doing a politician style u turn and being Pro Celtic after slagging off the manager and team the whole season.
    Could it be we are going to win the league after all?
    Shame on that web writer. We have only lost two league games this season and one was with 10 men at Castle GreySkull.
    Back the team you Eejit!

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:20, Blogger Emjay said…

    i'm now just recovering from the beer session yesterday.

    sitting here reading loads of papers with a strong cup of coffee lapping up the reviews of the game.

    i thought it was a MON type of win at mordor yesterday.

    score the goal then let's see if you can break us down. it worked!

    a lot of big performances from our players including the ones we tend to have a go at.

    that young boy keane had a great game against the veteran ferguson!

    lots of great moments yesterday...

    magic's goal and celebration,

    keane constantly intercepting bazza on the ball,

    mcglinchey mcglinchey on the subs bench according to setanta!

    keane giving boyd a wry smile when boyd hacked him down.

    0-2 scoreline on the board.

    last but not least boruc with his brave last gasp tackle and save against 3 of the establishment!

    a very important win and a clean sheet for the first time since we last played them.

    Do we get to keep them now?

    Emjay

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:21, Blogger NYbrianr said…

    Kano,

    Don't let a good result and 21 points cloud your judgement.

    Whereas I am a fan of Strachan I do agree with p8ddy that had R**gers taken their chances we would have lost. This in mind, I think we can make an impact on europe next season. We'll wait and see.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:21, Blogger pablophanque said…

    Plato, how did you know Martin was going to post??????????????

    Any chance of the lottery numbers............ ;o)

    pablophanque

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:24, Blogger Burnley78 said…

    kirstymccabe

    I do not think it is a stadium deal, and if so I very much doubt it would be a major FMCG brand involved with just one side. There is no logic to it being Coke as you do Stadium spons stuff for brand awareness, I doubt that cke needs that somehow.

    The value of stadium sponsorship is nothing like that being touted in the red tops and even on this site. A brand new stadium in central London with a team which has competed in CL for last 7 or 8 years has only delivered £10m pa including a whole stack of 'rights'. The Millenium stadium (only 5 or 6 years old) could not get £3m for their rights and withdrew it from the market.

    Rangers and Celtic have limited additional, incremental, 'rights' to sell. Both have high levels of prime trackside sales already with major parnters, and prime hospitality is hitting high occupancy levels, thus the only real incremental value to a potential sponsor would be name itself which might be valued around £1m - 2 per year maximum......it is not transformational..

    Re Le Guen

    Apparently he was viewing Boumsong's former abode on Saturday. Having seen this place I think that combined with Sunday's superb performance by both Rangers team and Fans he might have made his mind up sooner than Wednesday !

    Don't call me Dave, I'll call you ....


    p8ddy

    Surely you would agree Celtic started running down the clock after 20 mins and had no inclination to seek to carve further chances....not saying it was right (although it did get result) but it was clearly a game plan. As someone who backed -04 with keane or Dublin to get number 4 I would have preferred a more creative style but....

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:26, Blogger PlatowasaTim said…

    pablo

    I could not give you all of this weeks' lottery numbers, but I have a feeling that 18 and 21 will feature somewhere!!

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:28, Blogger Ian_in_budapest said…

    P8ddy, did you reply to my post on Saturday? How can we afford to sign the players needed to replace/improve upon the likes of Telfer, Camara, etc.? Where do you propose we raise additional revenue or reduce costs to acquire and pay these players? If the replacements are amongst our current crop of youngsters, why is the coaching staff not playing them? What have you seen, that the coaching staff has not?

    I respect you that you are willing to assume the, often unpopular, role of critic, and that you remind us that we are not yet ready for the Champion's League. However, with all due respect, I can't see many posters claiming that we are ready and I think most agree with you on this point.

    Could it be that you want the Champion's League, last 16, side now? Would I be right to say that you don't believe 'the nonsense' about it taking time to build a team of that calibre?

    I agree that yesterday we won without playing attractive football and in the process perhaps made Rangers look better than they are. However, regardless of how badly they are playing (and too be honest, to be in the last 16 of the CL they must have some ability), history shows that it is never easy to win at Ibrox. Nor is it always plain sailing to go to the home of the 4th placed team in the league, whoever that is at any given time, and take all the points. Yes, we ought not to get carried away on the back of this win, just like WGS. I trust his muted response to the result and the performance meets with your expectations - you may have more in common with WGS than you realise.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:29, Blogger PlatowasaTim said…

    pablo

    I have a feeling that the numbers 18 and 21 will feature in this weeks lottery!!

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:32, Blogger PlatowasaTim said…

    I give up!!

    My original post disappears into the etheral world of hyperspace.

    I then post again.

    Then my original post appears along with my latter one!!!


    PAUL! WE DESERVE AN ANSWER!!

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:32, Blogger Kano said…

    NYrianr,
    if every team who played against us had taken there chances we would probably always get beaten.
    Maybe the reason they didn't take them(and I only recall one clear cut one)was that Boruc terrified the living daylights out of whoever was coming at him and forced him into the mistake.
    We cannot expect to go to Ibrox and Rangers to have no chances.
    Same thing happened there as it does in every game we win.
    We scored more goals than them from however many chances were created.
    This is a sign of a good team.
    Yes,the test will come when we play in Europe.
    But it is not the 21 points which is "clouding my judgement".
    My judgement has no clouds in it whatsoever.
    We are 13 points ahead of the second place team.And one way or the other,I don't happen to care who that is.
    The fact that a lot of people seem to think that the only reason we are ahead is because everybody else is rubbish is what I would consider "clouded judgement".

    Hail

    Kano

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:34, Blogger Kano said…

    Sorry NYbrianr
    spelled your name wrong.

    My apologies

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:37, Blogger thismancraig said…

    Boruc never made a save yesterday.

    He fielded several crosses but not diving saves were required.

    I'd take that every time at Ibrox

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:38, Blogger PlatowasaTim said…

    superdupercelt

    When you came "o'er the watter" yesterday, were you on one of your legendary "bus runs"?

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:42, Blogger supercelt said…

    I only hope that roy keane remembered to take Barry fergushun out of his back pocket before he left ipox.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:44, Blogger supercelt said…

    Plato that was the best bus run ever.

    met up with a few of the cqn crew which made it all the more enjoyable. Top Men.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:44, Blogger PlatowasaTim said…

    supercelt

    I hope to have that privilege with your good self, (and anyone else who fancies turning up - even you Edward, if you can handle the banter), before the seasons' end

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:50, Blogger dontbrattbackinanger said…

    TMC-he had a good clutch in the first half diving down to the edge of the 6 yard box and in the 2nd he had to keep out an effort from Bob'the new Konterman'Malcolm.

    He had his best game for awhile.
    What I don't like is when he blocks the ball with his chest rather than catching it straight.These can sometimes end up flying over your shoulder into the net.And wnen it's only 1-0..

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:51, Blogger bigtrainpete said…

    Regarding Le Guen. If he does become manager of Der Hun, it would be a major coup for them. Arguably, he is among the top five coaches in Europe. However, for that very reason, I would bet Der Hun will end up with Billy Davies.

    Anyway, to more important stuff.

    IMO, with the exception of the first twenty minutes, we played in second gear. When Zurawski scored I genuinely thought we were going to clock-up a cricket score. The sight of Celtic pinging passes in front of ten Huns stuck on their own eighteen yard line was a pleasure.

    For some reason though, it all stopped. We showed a team no better than Killie or ICT more respect than they deserved.

    Some good performances in the Hoops. Balde (my MOM) turns-up for these games. Wilson performed admirably. Keane was bossy. Zurawski full of running for his team mates.

    Lennon? His performances of late have been criticised by many and rightly so. Yesterday he had an average game against a poor, poor midfield pairing. I'll reserve judgement until Hearts or Hibs come calling again as he will have to deal with sterner opposition. Ditto Telfer.

    An average Celtic performance, was yesterday. Nothing more, nothing less. It is always great to rub the Huns noses in it. My greatest wish is they drop-out the top six and we tie-up the league before the split.

    Both strong possibilities.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:51, Blogger PlatowasaTim said…

    supercelt

    How are the "CQN Alberts" coming along!!

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:55, Blogger darich67 said…

    Paul67
    I'm as happy as the next fan after Sunday's result but here's a question. I'm playing devil's advocate here.

    But if according to your article Kris Boyd has been dropped after only a month then surely you could argue that Keane is struggling to make our first 11??
    You'll probably argue that Keane has been building fitness and getting to know his team mates. again fair enough but I'd then come back with Naka has been in the team and now dropped after a few months.
    The feckless one probably dropped him for tactical reasons, as WGS did with Naka.
    Just being awkward here and asking the question that any gers fan would ask you.
    Hail hail.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:55, Blogger andycol said…

    From Reuters today.
    PARIS, Feb 13 (Reuters) - Former Olympique Lyon coach Paul Le Guen has had talks with Rangers with a view to replacing manager Alex McLeish at the end of the season.

    The 41-year-old, who succeeded Jacques Santini as coach of Lyon in 2002, said the Scottish champions had shown renewed interest in his services.

    "I had contacts with Rangers last year and they have been resumed recently," Le Guen told French television channel Canal+ on Sunday.

    "Discussions are under way but no deal has been sealed yet."

    Le Guen stepped down as Lyon coach in May 2005 after guiding the side to three successive league titles.

    Rangers are fourth in the Scottish Premier League, trailing Celtic by 21 points. The club announced last week that McLeish would be stepping down at the end of the season.

    Does not sound like a done deal to me. But "Che sera sera".

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:56, Blogger Derbyshirebhoy said…

    estadio

    Well said - eloquently put as always. Glad to see you made it home unscathed this time.

     
  • At 13/02/06 15:58, Blogger thismancraig said…

    dontbrattback -

    His handling was excellent yesterday as you say - he just didn't have to make any diving saves to stop certain goals kind of thing.

    In fairness, neither did the 'hoff' at the other end. The crucial difference being we have an excellent chance taker in the other Pole.

     
  • At 13/02/06 16:06, Blogger monteblanco said…

    P8ddy
    Your'e a grand man for an argument!

    Every one sees the game different and anyonne can find faults if they look hard enough. I would urge anyone who has fallen for the media spin about two poor teams to look again at the full 90.

    Sit down and imagine the visitors are Italian. Calm and focussed at kick off. Fight and win EVERY ball in the midfield for the first ten minutes. The ball is played out from the back with calculated probing balls. Each man has a specific role with, and more imprtantly without the ball. The fist crack appears in the home teams defence and it is clinically exploited, 1-0.

    Now this is Celtic, surely we will have to keep attacking. Our back line is too dodgy to hold out for another 80 mins.

    But wait a minute, whats happening, we are content to allow them all the possesion they want in their third. If it crosses the halfway line they are closed down and turned round. If they go long, we step out and intercept all incoming. Then, and this for me was the most joyous part, we hold possesion as deep as we like and play measured, probing passes. No need for hell for leather charges up the park risking a counter.

    I never in my wildest dreams saw a performance like that coming from our much maligned back line and midfield.

    Did you see any Celtic man looking exposed at ANY time. When we were in possesion there was ALWAYS an out ball.

    I do not want Celtic to adopt this style of play regularly but to know we have it in our locker gives me great pride and hope.

    Sure taking four or five would have been great but to toy with them for 82 minutes (four min I.T.)
    was equally as pleasurable.

    As the sexy voiceover burd in the M&S adverts would say......
    That was not just a Celtic performance......that was an Italian inspired, slow burning, fully matured, cut and dried Celtic performance.


    Funny how you can see the same game differently.

    Milk Lemonade Chocolate CSC

     
  • At 13/02/06 16:06,