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me?
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no way i got first it must be a trick!!
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Anyone who has been posting / reading CQN regularly this season will be aware that there was a huge anti Bobo lobby up until the point he went off to the Africa cup. Would any of the guys who were so adamant at that time that Bobo was a Dud care to give us their views now? I've been following Celtic since the 70's and would name Bobo as the best defender we've had in the last 30 years.
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not quick enuf
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the independent newspaper article is wrong , isnt it?
if the current buns finish 4th they WILL qualify for europe. as long as hearts or hibs win OUR cup.
(cmon accies, do them out of a european place :-)
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Good post Paul-but must mention BBJ.Maybe not MOTM but defo TIM of the Match.We let this guy go at our peril.
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Molesrus-I'd go for big Mjallby
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a rangers pal of mine with boardroom connections.........if u want some pakora he is ur man........
has told me the big announcement is ................
COCA COLA............
IF THATS THE CASE WHAT EVER DEAL THEY HAVE DONE WITH STADIUM NAME WE CAN SURELY REPLICATE......?
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Kirsty they will only get the UEFA Cup place from 4th if Hibs and Hearts meet in the final, otherwise it will be the defeated finalist.
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Paul with all the rumours still pointing to Le Guen being their next manager do you still stand by your Roberts story.
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Had to laugh at Joke Broon yesterday, he let us know that their fans had started leaving early.......at the 92nd minute! They were probably paid time and a half to stay the extra half hour!
As for the so called "2nd Ibrox Revolution" (copyright Mr Davie Provan esq)about to hit us. Dodgy Dave has forgotten that the first one had happened before he arrived and that Celtic are a very different club to the one they took then. Add to this the fact that PLG will probably be looking to the French league for players and not Engerland as Souness did, very few of the top French players would seriously consider coming to Scotland to play. As for the lesser mortals of the French league too many of them have came through the Nancy youth academy to cope with having their ankles broken by the likes of Scott Brown, et al.
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Yes we should not be worried by Le Guen but he should command our utmost respect.
3 consecutive league titles with Lyon and a better champions league record than us is not to be sniffed at.
21 points or whatever it finishes can be turned around in one season as Martin O'Neil proved.
There is no point in pretending (as some are doing here) that he is anything other than a top class manager.
Apologies if I misquote paul67 but I recall that in one one of his articles around the time of GS appointment he advocated Le Guen as the sort guy he would pursue if in charge.
We need to make sure that we make the correct player recruitment decisions in the summer to ensure that we maintain an advantage over them.
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Xavier,
first on the boards but last in the pub!!
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A few thoughts:
1) Roy Keane - he is the complete defensive midfielder. Looked unflustered throughout the 90. Even when he made his 'rash' challenge for a booking - he made a cold and calculated decision to preven the break. He will certainly help in the Champions League next season.
2) Neil Lennon - played a good game... but the truth is that for the best Celtic side RK and NL should not both be in. WGS is going to have to make that decision soon as well. Celtic have some breathing space and are now going to have to take the opportunity and experiment - to blood youngsters, find plan B backup formations - ready for next season and the CL. We know NL (a great servant) should NOT have his contract renewed (thanks for the memories) so he sadly should not be a part of these preparations.
3) McManus - I'd just like to say I was (and still am) one of his critics but thought he had a good game on Sunday. Still think for a big guy he gets beaten by headers far too often.
4) Maloney - poor game by his standards - but he still has loads to offer in other matches - would have been tempted to swap him for Nakamura.
5) Dublin - seems good backup to Hartson (though nowhere near as good) - still hope he is allowed to leave at then end of the season - and during our experimenting hope we see if younger players can step up.
6) Telfer - still the weakest link for me - caught to far upfield - lacks pace - poor passing. Can't help but believe the rumour that he is WGS's 'eyes and ears' in the dressing room so will not be dropped. Jeez we play a very promising youngster (always a recipe to mess up players) out of position to accomodate him. I still hope eternal that WGS will see sense on him but doubt it.
7) Delighted with the result - I can't help finding the whole Le Guen thing amusing. Lyons played very well but they were already top of the French League (a very well structured league in terms of youth development) when he joined. I'm sure he has talent but a lot of managers find the UK unique in style (more robust) and there is every chance with the poor crop at Rangers (bar Burke and Buffel) that he will struggle even with some decent funds.
B
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I for one can not figure Kris Boyd being dropped. He is the current highest scoring player in the SPL.
What is the rational for that?
Still, not going to lose any tears over it.
Soooo good to be a Tim right now.
As supporters we need to take a longer view. There are some that panic from week to week over the positioning of a player or over 90 minutes of performance.
Hey, whatever floats yer boat!
The fact is, as Paul has pointed out, we are in a position of ascendency. The facts all bear that out. 'Generation of dominance'? Well maybez aye.
We're first in the SPL
We're first in the SPL
We're first in the SPL
We're first in the SPL
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Stubbs, Mjallby, Wieghorst & Rooney obviously have more generous brothers than I do to get a brief for the game. Ggggrrrhhhh!!!
A few points on the game.
We were good but not great. We didn´t need to be.A very solid team performace that reminded me of the MON era pre 2005. In complete control almost, A second goal would have helped my complexion. It ages me those last 10 minutes.
The greek Tradgey should have walked as should have Stephen "Boyd" Thompson I saw no difference between their fouls and RK except RK was more professionally carried out.
Lenny and Keane as I have been banging on for weeks now is the same as Lambert and Lenny. Dion Dublin done well also - what if that one had sneaked in. Sell BBJ he doesn´t care and hardly moves - aye right. All those budding fitba gurus should bleib jetzt schtumm!! For the sake of their own credibilty. Lets lay of WGS now and give the man a big pat in the back by finding a song for him.
Hail Hail
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molesrus@1.37pm,
I'm definitely one of those who was in the anti-Bobo camp. He was dire for the 2 years between ACNs. He can be a tremendous defender if he simply clears his lines. When he tries to play football in his own area (as against Livingston), he is a disaster waiting to happen. I have been watching Celtic since the mid-50s and I think we have had plenty of better defenders than Bobo. But long may he give his all for the jerseys, as he certainly does, good bad or indifferent.
Paul,
indulge me in a bit of whimsy: I used to be a very near neighbour of the very young Crocky Bhoy, Wayne. I wonder if my promoting of all things Celtica rubbed off. Anyway, he was an Evertonian to his bootstraps in those days. If he fancies following Roy Keane to Parkhead, here's hoping he doesn't sign another contract at Old Trafford and comes to us on a Bosman. I doubt we could ever afford him otherwise.
I wonder how Murray could afford Le Guen. Still he would be a very formidable opposing manager.
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Giz A Huddle, they are making a big pitch for Le Guen, which I expect to fail. Let’s see.
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molesrus,
my view on Bobo is still the same. He is overpaid (not his fault admittedly) and has poor distribution. He can be gaffe-prone.
He is good at defending, probably the best at the club as you say, but is never in a million years a footballer.
If he was on £15K/week I would be his biggest fan, but £29K/week could get you a real top drawer player.
He played a blinder yesterday and I can't remember him ever having a poor game against Rangers.
thats my $0.02 worth
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Are all the huns playing hide and seek today? cause if they are - would somebody please tell them that they’ve won and they can all come out now.
The usual hordes in my workplace are nowhere to be seen and me being the eternal worrier is getting a wee bit feart for them.
Come out! Come out! Wherever you are.
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21st comment, i just love 21!
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I'd stick my neck out and say that telfer was clsoe to getting the MOM award. I thought he had a fine game.
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BromleyBhoy @1.33
I agree with your view "that Maloney had a poor game by his high standards" in so far as it applied to his creative game.However I think his contribution in work rate,being avilable for a pass,covering back and tackling was very good.While I am a huge fan of Nakamura I do not believe that he can offer as much when his creative game is stifled.I believe that Naka is the more skillful player but that Maloney is the better all round player.I think on this occasion our manager got it spot on.
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What could attract Le Guen to Glasgow?
the "auld alliance"?
friendship with DM?
The Spanish media reckon Le Guen is Real Madrid manager potential. If their current manager Lopez Caro can do a Del Bosque then that job will not be up for grabs. However the press here will be baying for him if things go pear shaped (again)in Madrid. Unlike Keano, Le Guen will probably opt for Madrid rather than Glasgow. It would seem logical that after his sabbatical year he will be looking for a bigger challenge, a bit like Strachan did
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Great professional performance yesterday
Telfer only survived 4 different players as Lennon was always there as a spare man to cover. Celtic always had a spare man on the pitch as Ferguson refused to cross the half way line.
Tactics this time worked a treat and Lennon's best game for months...and Mr Keane was excellent going forward.
Anyway does anybody know when you have to apply for next years Inter Toto Cup? Might be worth a laugh watching next year!
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thought celtic had a commanding performance, checked the papers first thing...still no broken crest, never mind happy dayz !!
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Hi Paul
Do we know if Le Guen is stiil in the running for the Real Madrid job? If he was, then there is absolutely no way I could see there being any competition. Real would surely be far more attractive. Well, in truth just about anywhere would surely be more attractive.
Hail Hail
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13 points clear and 21 ahead of Rangers so lets put a few media myths & CQN bloggers assertions to bed. Right now
1) Roy Keane and Neil Lennon cannot play in the same midfield. If we are needing a point at the Bernebau next year this combo will be perfect.
2) Roy Keane is passed it. At least 2 more seasons in him
3) Neil Lennon is passed it. How old is he compared to RK ?
4) Bobo Balde is a donkey
5) That the SPL oppostion this year is somehow inferior to last year.
6) That this Celtic team is inferior to last years Celtic. The table does not lie.
7) That Dion Dublins signing was an act of an unhinged manager.
8) That RK has been upsetting the Celtic dressing room with his ego.
9) That Zurawski is not the real deal
10) That BBJ is just hear to pick up the pay packet and is waiting for the next big transfer.
11) That there is some other reason that Rangers are not in the latter stages of the CL other than being the luckiest team in the CL competition since its inception.
12) That the MIBS penchant for favouring Rangers isn´t ABSOLUTELY true
13) That Telfer is a Donkey
14) That WGS teachers pet is Nakamura and that he will play him no matter what.
15) WGS only wants to play pretty football the Celtic way
Please feel free to ad to this list
Hail Hail
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Le Guen was indeed talked about on here, at length, as a potential successor to MON.
There is no doubt the man should be respected for his achievements.
Logically, why the hell would he want to agree to join The Mint FC unless ther is something significant happening with their finances?
The information is in the public domain and is grim reading.
This could be the biggest indication yet of what is to come.
I believe the only way he will join them, is if there really is a 'BIG' announcement and additional funding.
If he doesn't, I seriously hope Clyde hold out for as much compo as possible :-)
My only concern is that The Mint has painted himself into a corner this time. There is panic, to the extent that personal abuse meant he had to make last weeks statements about Eck and take some of the heat off.
He cannot afford to do nothing. He cannot afford for the announcement not to be BIG.
Are we watching the last days of a Maxwell, or does he really have something up his sleeve???
The failure to land Le Guen would set them back years and it would cost The Mint even more money trying to appease everyone.
This makes me think that he will spend whatever it takes to make the position so attractive to Le Guen that he couldn't turn it down.
I hope I am wrong, not that I fear Le Guen, just that the damage inflicted would be incredible.
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..and if there is any truth in the Coca Cola rumour (you heard it also tastes like McEwan's lager! Still don't drink that crap!), then it's pepsi or virgin for me!
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I predict a riot.
We should have the league sewn up by the split. What's the betting we blood Lawson, McGlinchey, Gardyne, Bjarnasson, O'Brien and Ferry for each of the post split games except Rangers at Celtic Park.
I can hear the calls for an enquiry now as the establishment club fights to hang on to the Uefa spot.
Hibs and Kille to win at the weekend and........
You're fifth in the SPL.
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As one of Lenny's critics, I thought he had a great game, more like himself at the start of the season. Crucial to the victory was being able to rest BBJ and Lenny, haven't seen BBJ cover as much ground. We shouldn't get too worked up about Stan having to switch positions to accomodate our 2 terriers, as it was all for the greater good. Now others such as wee Shaun can also have his rest.
Hail, Hail.
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lhads, gonnae stop postin stuff uve already posted.
everyone sees what uve written on previous thread.
its gettin a bit repetitive...repetitive...repetitive
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Even if Le Guen turns out to be the new Rankers manager, who cares? Why should we be worrying? That's what they want us to do.
As long as we keep our own game plan going, that's all that matters.
If he does sign, I'd recommend a one week rolling contract and, as for Mme Le Guen, I'd rent rather than buy if I were you.
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lhads, gonnae stop postin stuff uve already posted.
everyone sees what uve written on previous thread.
its gettin a bit repetitive...repetitive...repetitive
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They say there's no show without punch, so here goes -
Whilst I am ecstatic about the result yesterday - Beating Rangers is great, whatever the standard - I think we are deluding ourselves a bit here. Rangers, for instance had the better chances in the match yesterday. Celtic only had one shot on goal. One shot. Rangers had at least three clear cut chances they should have scored with. Considering we set up so defensively, I dont think the rearguard were particularly inspiring.
Strangely, and in keeping with my apparently opposite view of the game, I thought Maloney was excellent. He kept possesion when it was needed, he showed pace and fight and was always available to take a pass, to work back and he put a shift in. I was pleased with Lennon and Keane, and I thought BBJ put in another excellent 70 minutes. At the end of last season I'd have happily sold him - I think I've been proven completely wrong about Hartson. Certainly, I've changed my opinion of him completely.
I still think there is little shape or discipline to the team. Witness Mark Wilson at one point running diagonally toward the right wing with the ball, to me, a no no.
I think also it's fair to say that Rangers true position this season is 4th in the league, they have shown consistantly that is their level - which is why the performance yesterday worries me.
If Rangers get Le Guen and he has one iota of tactical nous we'll be easily beaten. The defence cannot cope with guys running at them and firing balls into the wings. Each Rangers chance came from those sectors yesterday.
As I say, I'm pleased, but I'm not convinced, not by a long shot. I am fearful what a decent European team will do to us. Our Manager edserves credit for getting us intot he postion we are in, but we should be mindful of the circumstances surrounding the position. If WGS is still in charge next season I'll not be confident of us doing anything in Europe, and an even marginally revitalised Rangers will present a much sterner challenge.
OK, I'm off to throw out any cans of Coke I might have in anticipation of the "announcement" :-)
/p
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Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo...
6) That this Celtic team is inferior to last years Celtic. The table does not lie.
Last years team - 65 points This years - 64 points.
You're right, the tables don't lie. Who's better? ;-)
Sorry Aw_naw.. couldn't resist it.
Paul67...
I hope you are correct regarding Le Guen. He's a problem we could do without.
/p
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I'd like to teach the world to sing the sash my father wore
we're up to our knees in fenian blood and Lennon what's the score?
The billy boys, we'll make some noise and Follow Follow too
ee ay ee ay ee ay oh and the one where the sea is blue
Yes, that's the songs they'll sing
Coke is................
DEFINITELY BANNED IN MA HOOSE if this comes off!
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a great win in ibrox, the first post.. i need to crack open some champagne here...or maybe go to the pub...
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p8ddy,
If you go 0-1 up against your oldest rivals in their stadium and are 18, going on for 21, points ahead of them then the best thing to do is to soak up what the other team can throw at you. If Celtic were to go 1-0 up against Villareal away from home you would play to protect that lead, no?
Scoring goals is the hard part. It had an added advantage yesterday as Rangers had not scored in their last two matches. It would have been a great psychological blow to the current scottish champions to have been unable to score at all in their third match, and their third match against us. It has to be different horses for different courses as well as the glasgow celtic way
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P8DDY
Witness Mark Wilson at one point running diagonally toward the right wing with the ball, to me, a no no.
errm why not ?
If there is space exploit it. Especially if you have cover. Ever seen the 1970 Brazil team ?
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Aw Naw,
Top post...loving the positivity there.
Hail Hail
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Does the result yesterday make Le Guen coming more or less likely? The Guardian is now saying the huns will have an answer by Wednesday this week. Surely it's got to be a 'non'? As previously said, surely he'd only come if there was loads of dosh on the table, but would he come with loads of dosh on the table but no Champions League in the first season?
As for Coca Cola - has anyone bought one pint of McEwans Lager since they hooked up with the manky mob way back in the 80's? I'm off to add Barrs shares to my (Celtic) portfolio.
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For all those concerned about Le Guen. Get a grip.
It hasn´t happened.
Anybody remember Dick Advocaat ?
Murrays millions. Do me afavour why would anyone invest Heavily in Rangers just now ?. It would take 100`s of millions.
Houllier never won the EPL - how much did he get.
Tigana how much with Fulham ?
Errrm The French bloke at Portsmouth !!
Stop buying the wet dreams fuelled by Murray of the laptop loyal and gie us awe a break. Even if Le Guen does come ?
This is all orchestrated to take the aim of the target of the real issue. The MESS that Rangers are in. Only Burke and Hutton showed for Rangers yesterday imho. They are not even Ecks signings!!! The promise of more jam tomorrow will keep th ebaying hoardes at bay. Well those that buy it AND THAT SHOULDN´T BE US!!!
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just back from the game.
Can we play them everyweek?
Roy keane absolutley outstanding. A born leader.
An amazing experience capped of by the 0-2 scoreboard. :))
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Up until last year (I think), Scotland was the only country in the known universe that Coca Cola was not the best selling drink, beaten by Irn Bru.................
Guess what's going to be No.1 again if this story is true. BTW I've never drank a McEwan's product since, and I don't think I'm the only one?????
pablophanque
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Arranmore
The Barr family are big spenders at Govan and have been for some time so you'll need to add the Bru to your banned list
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If Leguen did sign would he become in the immortal words of Homer Simpson'a cheese eating NO SURRENDER monkey'?
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I'm not 100% convinced that le Guen will not be the next Rangers manager, but it looks to me like classic Murray spin.
We have just beaten them for the third time this season, they are 21 points behind, they are rank rotten and will be lucky to qualify for Europe. What's the main news? They are about to unveil one of the most sought after coaches in Europe and will give him millions to spend next season - cue domestic and European domination for years to come.
Consider also Murray's track record. Jardel was done and dusted at one time, wasn't he? Oh no, there were some "red-tape" difficulties that meant he was absolutely gutted about it, but couldn't join Rangers.
Remember in the late '90's when Rangers came so close to signing Ronaldo? They were serious contenders claimed Murray.
Then there was the infamous Ken Gallacher report which was based on nothing more than Murray puff.
After the 6-2 game, Murray indulged in more spin. They signed de Boer who spent many months on the sidelines with a knee injury, yet rejected BBJ after he failed "the most stringent medical in Rangers' history." In reality, Murray had no intention of signing BBJ, he just wanted the world to THINK they were about to unveil two major signings, only for one to unluckily fall through.
I would not underestimate le Guen, but neither would I be overly concerned about him. He will need mega-bucks to improve this lot, and with their financial situation, I doubt very much that will be forthcoming. Murray said new finance would be revealed late last year - nothing. Three "proper signings", in the end one, and no cash for Riordan.
To my mind, Murray just wants us all to THINK that they are genuinely in the frame. To THINK that they are about to sort out their financial situation, and to make sure that attention is diverted from the reality. So far, he has succeeded in that if nothing else.
To anyone concerned about le Guen, just remember Murray's history.
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Arranmore
I remember standing in a queue at CP when Rangers were sponsored by McEwans Lager when what draws up but a beer lorry delivering this poor excuse for beer to the very doors, the looks and comments it generated well you can guess.
dumbhoy
Seems we will have to take the Pepsi challenge next year.
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P8ddy,
you talked the other day about the "language" bringing the tone of the site down.
There was also the inference,however vague,that if there wasn't some sort of control exercised over it you would throw your dummy out of the pram once again and refrain from posting.
Believe me your negativity,although couched in what you would consider "better" language,would not be missed.
Your criticism of Wilson for having the temerity to run with the ball into space is galling
Once again,all you can see from a thoroughly commanding performance at Ibrox is that Strachan is not the man for the job.
Your statement "if Le Guen has one iota of tactical nous we'll be easily beaten" is complete nonsense.
Your constant aguement,if you call it that,is that there is merely opinions and no-one is right or wrong.
Well let me say,you are quite often wrong as you are once again on this thread.
The defence did play well,and Wilson was correct to take the ball into space.
And also the joke on the previous thread about Presley was funny.Now there is a matter of opinion.
Well done to the manager,and all the players.There was not a poor performance on the park from anyone in green and white.
Take all the plaudits you can from this,because the next hiccup will be awaited by bated breath by some,and the hatchets will be out again.
Hail Hail
Happy Kano
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OKAY. I"LL PUT MY HAND UP!
I was convinced that Keane and Lennon could not play together, in a midfield four. I was wrong!
I posted yesterday about LeGuen becoming their manager. However, he has an almighty task on his hands, to turn that round in a season.
If he comes, the hordes of hatred will be expecting dramatic improvement immediately. There will be no second chances for LeGuen or Chairman Dave!
However. Does he have a club in France, which he owns? That way, his club in France can sign the new players and R****** can have them, on four year loan deals!!
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We should all remember that Paul LeGuen is no magician and will have to work within the confines of Rangers financial restrictions.
Paul Daniels might be a better choice.
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I'd argue that Rangers never had any clear cut chances. They had opportunities to create clear cut chances but did not convert them.
Mark Wilson's run was an excellent example of a player taking the initiative and exploiting space - he ran condidently with his head up. Hardly a blind charge!
On LeGuen, I'm totally relaxed. He will be a short term appointment at best. This club needs a shake from top to bottom including a restructure (implementation) of the scouting network, a revolution at the youth levels...John Brown coaching??? I think not.
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Martin Rowan
Are you a disgruntled ex - employee of "Keep the Faith"?
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www.keep-the-faith.net now doing a politician style u turn and being Pro Celtic after slagging off the manager and team the whole season.
Could it be we are going to win the league after all?
Shame on that web writer. We have only lost two league games this season and one was with 10 men at Castle GreySkull.
Back the team you Eejit!
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i'm now just recovering from the beer session yesterday.
sitting here reading loads of papers with a strong cup of coffee lapping up the reviews of the game.
i thought it was a MON type of win at mordor yesterday.
score the goal then let's see if you can break us down. it worked!
a lot of big performances from our players including the ones we tend to have a go at.
that young boy keane had a great game against the veteran ferguson!
lots of great moments yesterday...
magic's goal and celebration,
keane constantly intercepting bazza on the ball,
mcglinchey mcglinchey on the subs bench according to setanta!
keane giving boyd a wry smile when boyd hacked him down.
0-2 scoreline on the board.
last but not least boruc with his brave last gasp tackle and save against 3 of the establishment!
a very important win and a clean sheet for the first time since we last played them.
Do we get to keep them now?
Emjay
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Kano,
Don't let a good result and 21 points cloud your judgement.
Whereas I am a fan of Strachan I do agree with p8ddy that had R**gers taken their chances we would have lost. This in mind, I think we can make an impact on europe next season. We'll wait and see.
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Plato, how did you know Martin was going to post??????????????
Any chance of the lottery numbers............ ;o)
pablophanque
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kirstymccabe
I do not think it is a stadium deal, and if so I very much doubt it would be a major FMCG brand involved with just one side. There is no logic to it being Coke as you do Stadium spons stuff for brand awareness, I doubt that cke needs that somehow.
The value of stadium sponsorship is nothing like that being touted in the red tops and even on this site. A brand new stadium in central London with a team which has competed in CL for last 7 or 8 years has only delivered £10m pa including a whole stack of 'rights'. The Millenium stadium (only 5 or 6 years old) could not get £3m for their rights and withdrew it from the market.
Rangers and Celtic have limited additional, incremental, 'rights' to sell. Both have high levels of prime trackside sales already with major parnters, and prime hospitality is hitting high occupancy levels, thus the only real incremental value to a potential sponsor would be name itself which might be valued around £1m - 2 per year maximum......it is not transformational..
Re Le Guen
Apparently he was viewing Boumsong's former abode on Saturday. Having seen this place I think that combined with Sunday's superb performance by both Rangers team and Fans he might have made his mind up sooner than Wednesday !
Don't call me Dave, I'll call you ....
p8ddy
Surely you would agree Celtic started running down the clock after 20 mins and had no inclination to seek to carve further chances....not saying it was right (although it did get result) but it was clearly a game plan. As someone who backed -04 with keane or Dublin to get number 4 I would have preferred a more creative style but....
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pablo
I could not give you all of this weeks' lottery numbers, but I have a feeling that 18 and 21 will feature somewhere!!
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P8ddy, did you reply to my post on Saturday? How can we afford to sign the players needed to replace/improve upon the likes of Telfer, Camara, etc.? Where do you propose we raise additional revenue or reduce costs to acquire and pay these players? If the replacements are amongst our current crop of youngsters, why is the coaching staff not playing them? What have you seen, that the coaching staff has not?
I respect you that you are willing to assume the, often unpopular, role of critic, and that you remind us that we are not yet ready for the Champion's League. However, with all due respect, I can't see many posters claiming that we are ready and I think most agree with you on this point.
Could it be that you want the Champion's League, last 16, side now? Would I be right to say that you don't believe 'the nonsense' about it taking time to build a team of that calibre?
I agree that yesterday we won without playing attractive football and in the process perhaps made Rangers look better than they are. However, regardless of how badly they are playing (and too be honest, to be in the last 16 of the CL they must have some ability), history shows that it is never easy to win at Ibrox. Nor is it always plain sailing to go to the home of the 4th placed team in the league, whoever that is at any given time, and take all the points. Yes, we ought not to get carried away on the back of this win, just like WGS. I trust his muted response to the result and the performance meets with your expectations - you may have more in common with WGS than you realise.
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pablo
I have a feeling that the numbers 18 and 21 will feature in this weeks lottery!!
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I give up!!
My original post disappears into the etheral world of hyperspace.
I then post again.
Then my original post appears along with my latter one!!!
PAUL! WE DESERVE AN ANSWER!!
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NYrianr,
if every team who played against us had taken there chances we would probably always get beaten.
Maybe the reason they didn't take them(and I only recall one clear cut one)was that Boruc terrified the living daylights out of whoever was coming at him and forced him into the mistake.
We cannot expect to go to Ibrox and Rangers to have no chances.
Same thing happened there as it does in every game we win.
We scored more goals than them from however many chances were created.
This is a sign of a good team.
Yes,the test will come when we play in Europe.
But it is not the 21 points which is "clouding my judgement".
My judgement has no clouds in it whatsoever.
We are 13 points ahead of the second place team.And one way or the other,I don't happen to care who that is.
The fact that a lot of people seem to think that the only reason we are ahead is because everybody else is rubbish is what I would consider "clouded judgement".
Hail
Kano
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Sorry NYbrianr
spelled your name wrong.
My apologies
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Boruc never made a save yesterday.
He fielded several crosses but not diving saves were required.
I'd take that every time at Ibrox
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superdupercelt
When you came "o'er the watter" yesterday, were you on one of your legendary "bus runs"?
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I only hope that roy keane remembered to take Barry fergushun out of his back pocket before he left ipox.
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Plato that was the best bus run ever.
met up with a few of the cqn crew which made it all the more enjoyable. Top Men.
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supercelt
I hope to have that privilege with your good self, (and anyone else who fancies turning up - even you Edward, if you can handle the banter), before the seasons' end
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TMC-he had a good clutch in the first half diving down to the edge of the 6 yard box and in the 2nd he had to keep out an effort from Bob'the new Konterman'Malcolm.
He had his best game for awhile.
What I don't like is when he blocks the ball with his chest rather than catching it straight.These can sometimes end up flying over your shoulder into the net.And wnen it's only 1-0..
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Regarding Le Guen. If he does become manager of Der Hun, it would be a major coup for them. Arguably, he is among the top five coaches in Europe. However, for that very reason, I would bet Der Hun will end up with Billy Davies.
Anyway, to more important stuff.
IMO, with the exception of the first twenty minutes, we played in second gear. When Zurawski scored I genuinely thought we were going to clock-up a cricket score. The sight of Celtic pinging passes in front of ten Huns stuck on their own eighteen yard line was a pleasure.
For some reason though, it all stopped. We showed a team no better than Killie or ICT more respect than they deserved.
Some good performances in the Hoops. Balde (my MOM) turns-up for these games. Wilson performed admirably. Keane was bossy. Zurawski full of running for his team mates.
Lennon? His performances of late have been criticised by many and rightly so. Yesterday he had an average game against a poor, poor midfield pairing. I'll reserve judgement until Hearts or Hibs come calling again as he will have to deal with sterner opposition. Ditto Telfer.
An average Celtic performance, was yesterday. Nothing more, nothing less. It is always great to rub the Huns noses in it. My greatest wish is they drop-out the top six and we tie-up the league before the split.
Both strong possibilities.
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supercelt
How are the "CQN Alberts" coming along!!
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Paul67
I'm as happy as the next fan after Sunday's result but here's a question. I'm playing devil's advocate here.
But if according to your article Kris Boyd has been dropped after only a month then surely you could argue that Keane is struggling to make our first 11??
You'll probably argue that Keane has been building fitness and getting to know his team mates. again fair enough but I'd then come back with Naka has been in the team and now dropped after a few months.
The feckless one probably dropped him for tactical reasons, as WGS did with Naka.
Just being awkward here and asking the question that any gers fan would ask you.
Hail hail.
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From Reuters today.
PARIS, Feb 13 (Reuters) - Former Olympique Lyon coach Paul Le Guen has had talks with Rangers with a view to replacing manager Alex McLeish at the end of the season.
The 41-year-old, who succeeded Jacques Santini as coach of Lyon in 2002, said the Scottish champions had shown renewed interest in his services.
"I had contacts with Rangers last year and they have been resumed recently," Le Guen told French television channel Canal+ on Sunday.
"Discussions are under way but no deal has been sealed yet."
Le Guen stepped down as Lyon coach in May 2005 after guiding the side to three successive league titles.
Rangers are fourth in the Scottish Premier League, trailing Celtic by 21 points. The club announced last week that McLeish would be stepping down at the end of the season.
Does not sound like a done deal to me. But "Che sera sera".
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estadio
Well said - eloquently put as always. Glad to see you made it home unscathed this time.
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dontbrattback -
His handling was excellent yesterday as you say - he just didn't have to make any diving saves to stop certain goals kind of thing.
In fairness, neither did the 'hoff' at the other end. The crucial difference being we have an excellent chance taker in the other Pole.
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P8ddy
Your'e a grand man for an argument!
Every one sees the game different and anyonne can find faults if they look hard enough. I would urge anyone who has fallen for the media spin about two poor teams to look again at the full 90.
Sit down and imagine the visitors are Italian. Calm and focussed at kick off. Fight and win EVERY ball in the midfield for the first ten minutes. The ball is played out from the back with calculated probing balls. Each man has a specific role with, and more imprtantly without the ball. The fist crack appears in the home teams defence and it is clinically exploited, 1-0.
Now this is Celtic, surely we will have to keep attacking. Our back line is too dodgy to hold out for another 80 mins.
But wait a minute, whats happening, we are content to allow them all the possesion they want in their third. If it crosses the halfway line they are closed down and turned round. If they go long, we step out and intercept all incoming. Then, and this for me was the most joyous part, we hold possesion as deep as we like and play measured, probing passes. No need for hell for leather charges up the park risking a counter.
I never in my wildest dreams saw a performance like that coming from our much maligned back line and midfield.
Did you see any Celtic man looking exposed at ANY time. When we were in possesion there was ALWAYS an out ball.
I do not want Celtic to adopt this style of play regularly but to know we have it in our locker gives me great pride and hope.
Sure taking four or five would have been great but to toy with them for 82 minutes (four min I.T.)
was equally as pleasurable.
As the sexy voiceover burd in the M&S adverts would say......
That was not just a Celtic performance......that was an Italian inspired, slow burning, fully matured, cut and dried Celtic performance.
Funny how you can see the same game differently.
Milk Lemonade Chocolate CSC
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lets all laugh at von vossen
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Artur makes it into my'totalitarian regime' 11:
Boruc[Pol]
Varga[Cze]
Du Wei[Chi]
Vata[Alb]
Wdowcyk[Pol]
Thom[DDR]
Petrov[Bul]
Moravcik[Cze]
?
Zurawski[Pol]
Dziekanowski[Pol]
Sub-
Kharine [USSR]
I need another outfield player-any suggestions?
What's the protocol on the bustrip-do people get called by their blognames?
And who sits next to carfinharp?
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rintimtim...
If Celtic were to go 1-0 up against Villareal away from home you would play to protect that lead, no?
Absolutely I would, but therein lies the difference. A two leg game with a small lead means it's prudent to protect it. I would have thought that a 1-0 lead to a team you are 18 points ahead of might have been the relaxant that would have seen us outclass Rangers in all areas of the pitch. I'm not complaining about the win, far from it - I just didn't see the gulf in quality between the two team. For me it wasn't so much a match that Celtic had a vice like grip on as a match where two teams with limited invention slogged it out. That Celtic had a little more invention was obvious, but the gulf wasn't great.
It has to be different horses for different courses as well as the glasgow celtic way
Absolutely. First and foremost I want Celtic to win games, and in that respect it's a step forward. I just don't think that it should hide the problems we have in our own team. We can't afford to relax, we can't afford to become complacent.
/p
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brattback
Neil Lennon ?
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darich67
On Friday night on the phone in, Derek Johnstone said he expected Boyd to be dropped to accomodate Prso as Prso needed games and Boyd had been 'awful' in the last 3 games.
I'd have to say that the absence of Boyd and Lovenkrands gave me a boost. Prso is a mythical player, a striker who does not score goals.
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Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo...
If there is space exploit it. Especially if you have cover. Ever seen the 1970 Brazil team ?
My point exactly. Where you have limitless player skill and flair (or unlimited budget to buy them) it's a great idea. With more [ahem] limited players, organisation and discipline are key. If Wilson loses the ball at that juncture we're in trouble. Bill Shankly said "The ball never gets tired", if we were to live this mantra, the players could hold their postions and let the ball do the work. I didn't think we had cover when Wilson was haring up the park - and that could have hurt us. "It's not safe to hope for the best without preparing for the worst"
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boruc chesting the ball when it was played back to him made me chuckle yesterday.
he reminds me of big Schmeicel.
his confidence in his own ability is a key factor in his play.
the way he closes down his opponents by making himself huge when their bearing down on goal.
he constantly berates his teammates not only to gee them up but also himself.
he has that classic goalkeeping eccentricity as well.
a great shot stopper and not bad at all on crosses!(get it?)
all very like the big dane.
he will make the odd mistake but that will be far outweighed by the positives.
no doubt we have found a keeper.
its just a case of holding onto him now.
Emjay
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Zybszek-apologies!
I didn't intend any offence-Iforget this gets read all around the world.
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P8DDY,
do you think that maybe WGS who has studied a few videos and the experiences of the last time he was at Ibrox that if you give the ref the opportunity. He will and that is why he played this way ?
I think WGS is becoming a true Celt. He´s beginning to know his history!!
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bigliam
Steady now bigliam but you're right. Apart from that one moment he lost Buffel I thought he was outstanding. Can't remember who it was he crunched with a superb tackle first half but it fair did my heart good. He may well be only a stop gap but till Gordon's sorted the team for the future he's a good steady Eddy on whom you can depend.
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Thismancraig
I realise that Boyd was dropped to allow diddy poorshow to play. For tactical and/or fitness reasons.
But like i said i was playing devil's advocate. Paul67 said Boyd had been dropped after only a few games. I was saying the same could be said of Naka.
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We are actually living in historic times p8ddy as Paul67 points out. The analogy with an italian team´s way of doing things (Monteblanco) is spot on. Minimum of effort and maximum points. We are not fazed by going to Ibrox and that is something new and I am so happy that we are used to it. They are just another team, but putting them quietly to sleep will allow us to look onto the bright horizon (sans moonbeams). Anyway good to see you are helping yourself to a little humble pie at least, I sense you are warming to Strachan.
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I know darich, I forgot to add in the little disclaimer that it wasn't exactly your point I was getting at.
Prso isn't fit either, one eye on a world cup hurrah for the oily one.
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I've posted a torrent of paul67's podcast at
http://tracker.zaerc.com/torrents-details.php?returnto=%2Faccount-cp.php&id=5080
Paul is keeping the file size small but if you are downloader try the link above and we can lessen the load/cost of paul67 broadcasting.
Remember to seed!!
If there is some interest in downloading this way post and i can post links and tips.
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p8ddy,
Watch it again, Wilson made a great run into acres of space and was composed and confident with his head held high a la the Maestro.
It was not a Craig Beattie style all elbows and head down charge.
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P8DDY,
with the greates respect it sounds like you want your cake and eat it. Surely Wilson was showing a lack of respect for Rangers by going for a wee run. How can he become a ramapaging brazilian type full back if you as a fan wont give him the license too? Where and when will he get this experience. Or did the Brazil of the 70`s not have a clue, How often did Didier do this under MON - not never ! WHy not at Ibrox against a team that we were showing (as you rightly pointed) out )and me in my last post why) too much respect.
The team have delivered you are over critical )imho.
If we were niot picking I would say that Artur´s kicking yesterday was woeful. Telfer and Maloney final delivery was poor, occasionally mc Manus played over cautiously BUT THIS WAS IBROX !!!!!!
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Having watched the C67 replay, I might just watch it again! I reckon the more you watch it, the more you will realise just how comfortable and in command we were.
We won this match with ease.
Yes, we could have scored more. However, I'm content with one goal, a clean sheet, and a professional EUROPEAN style performance.
Roy Keane gave us more than I could have hoped for in the run-up to the game; he set a confident tone, and it spread throughout the team. We had steely determination and a discipline, reminiscent of our European performances under MON
We stuck to our game-plan and looked a very composed side.
A feelgood factor will surely improve the atmosphere at Paradise
for the run-in (and the start of our CL campaign).
When we look back to a successful season, I think we might acknowledge 12th Feb as the day we again took control of our destiny!
Come on the Champions Elect!
Hail! Hail!
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monteblanco
You make a very good point. If Villareal turn in a similar performance in a few weeks time and leave Ibrox with a 1-0 win they will get all the praise going.
I posted this yesterday but Celtic have won 6 games out of 8 (19 points out of 24) from Ibrox, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Pittodrie, Rugby Park and Fir Park. Not bad going in a transitional season.
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Anybody know what happened to the 'THIS IS YOUR LIFE' poster who was giving us a weekly commentary on an imaginary Gordon Strachan 'this is your life programme'? How did that pan out? Who was the special guest star that usually comes in at the end? I thought it was a bit spooky at the time but still curious to know how it ended
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hey, my two cents on clicking...keep clicking
but hey everyone, don't spell ran@ers properly!! Misspelling rranngers lessens the chance google will place their adds on cqn.
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How can we not agree with P8ddy and NyBrianr - if Rangers had taken their chances they would have scored 3 goals from what I can gather - clearly celtic would have had only one goal scoring chance, played at the same pace and with the same puprose, and if incredibly the change in Rangers luck resulted in even the slightest change to the shape of the game and coincidentally celtic were afforded even the luckiest of chances to score - they would have missed ;-)
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To dontbrattbackinanger
Apologies from me too. We are very sensitive on this subject. It's caused by the history of this country. You know why. Sorry again.My reaction was not adequate .Sorry
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SPikeysauldman,
In answer to your question cause we would have brought on Naka and scored two more ;-)
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IorcanWPG
You're right, the ads seem to reflect the content of the posts. With all the the talk of MIH etc recently there's been a few ads for accountants today.
This being the case I would like to say:
HUGE GREEN BOUNCY CASTLES FOR ADULTS
Come on google, make my dreams come true.
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lol
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In the midst of the concern about the possibility of Paul Le Guen joining Rangers it might give anyone too concerned some solace to remeber how highly Dick Advocaat was rated as a coach prior to him joining Rangers and what he subsequently achieved. He ended up with 5 trophies in all being 3 cups and 2 league titles before MON arrived ans sent him homeward to think again. Arguably Alec Mc Leish achieved more and particularly when viewed with the fact that he was faced with an excellent Celtic.
No-one knows how a PLG scenario would pan out. I take the view that it is futile to worry about the other side. Better to concentrate on making sure our own plans progress.
As we all know we can only really judge in hindsight.
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the flip side of course being that if clicking through a few ran@@ers oriented ads pays some bills for cqn ..... ;)
but seriously, ya the google ads react pretty much to content which works for advertiser and host for the most part
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funny how its always a poor game when we win eh!
winning ugly or losing in style.
i know where i sit!
Emjay
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it's not coca cola
plans just out of another greek treat
its easy
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Sir Paul,
Just re-read my Previously submitted, Paean of Plaudits....... to all of the Celtic Players.... who Starred in yesterday's conflict.
To anyone with even a smidgeon of one iota of street smarts..... It was obvious that my Schooner was Ploughing...THREE SHEETS TO THE WIND!!!
Now that I have returned to my normal state of Equanimity....... I am still of the same opinions, that I had espoused .......... Now ain't that a Kick in the Head?
Celtic were Magnificent..... Every Single Cotton-Pickin' Member of the Team.....
And anybody who thinks differently....... Then it is You and I pal, at Sammy Dow's at SHAWLANDS CROSS....... Drink, Drink, to see who FIRST BLINKS... and I warn ye,pal.... My eyes have been described as PURE AGATE...when I am roused..!!!
The Celtic Manager, is just displaying what You, Paul and a host of other perspicacious Contributers have allowed......
Gordon Strachan is the Man for the CELTIC JOB..... I shall repeat that.....
Gordon Strachan is the Man for the Celtic Job!
And, a wee bit of FREE advice.....and for that bounty one should consider themselves lucky...... only Sir HARRY charges more, per hour........
Enjoy, yersel's....Yesterday, was a day For BLISSFULL Thoughts and Warm FEELINGS for ALL IN THE CELTIC PANOPLY......
The BHOYS DONE GOOD! WE WERE VICTORIOUS........!
No shame in having feelings of EXULTATION and JUBILATION!
Forget the doleful expresser's of ..."What about the FUTURE?..... Will a famous Name in Management, signing up for Yesterday's defeated, TIP THE BALANCE OF POWER IN "THEIR" FAVOUR?
I say..... Bring it ON!
The FUTURE NEVER COMES!!!!
Doncha You Guys KNOW THAT??
Never seen the legendary Notice......Pinned up behind a Bar, which I have seen....in many, many, locations...........
"FREE BEER TOMORROW??"
It is always good for a laugh..... as is all one's worries about the FUTURE.......
It Never Happens as one would like or Conversely one would DISLIKE!
So, my friends.........
FUGGGGGGGGGGGETTTTTTTABOUTIT!!!
Wallow in the COZY COMFORT of YESTERDAY'S TABLEAU of 40,000 Thousand CRESTFALL and AGONIZED FACES at IBROX YESTERDAY!!!!!!
A thing of BEAUTY and A JOY FOREVER!
WE WON! THEY LOST!
Simple,Really....( THE WELSHMAN)
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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So Wilson is a limited player P8ddy! Not according to the many posters on here who saw yesterday's match.
Paradoxically, for such a dyed in the wool supporter, your arguments fit in perfectly with the arguments of the media guys who say
"Dion Dublin is not Celtic class"
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Awe Naw
Just getting to your posts now. We're obviously on the same wavelength re le Guen and other matters.
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hartson's fist of victory when leaving the field yesterday was one of those celtic moments that will remind me of this game in years to come.
the pub i was watching it in let out an almighty cheer when he done it.
there's nothing that warms the heart more than watching one of our players clearly show his emotions and feelings for our club.
especially in their backyard.
Emjay
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Zbyszek-more than happy to accept your apology.
I certainly didn't intend to trivialise the suffering of the Poles,or any other nation,under the Soviet regime.
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To each and every Celtic minded reader out there,
If you're somewhat down because yesterday was a "poor" game. Forget it. Hearken to Paul. That's 6 seasons in a row we've won at their midden. I'm sure there have been few occasions in the past where we have won 6 years in a trot at Parkhead.
Bring on the generation of domination, with or without Le Guen.
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Romanov really doesn't care what people think.
He's appointed (former Hibs manager) Jim Duffy as Director of Football.
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p&ddy
You are exasperating but consistent so that's no bad thing. I think you've forgotten some of MON's Ibrox wins or did you consider him to be tactically inept too? And that is a question not sarcasm.
My own view at the time and I admit I haven't watched it again is that we played in 2nd gear after we scored and that had it proved necessary we could have put them to the sword more convincingly. We could also have been caught out but how many times did we say the same about MON teams?
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As I love raw facts and not speculation can anyone confirm whether DM told the world words to the effect that 'the new manager is sorted and I'll tell you who it is after Villareal game...it would not be right to tell you who it is now'
If so how does this match up with the Reuters quote? I know which one I believe.
re the MIH debt - can anyone confirm that one of MIH companies owns the land that is The Mound - head office of HBOS? I hear they do and may explain why no-one over there appears to be readying a jump from the 3rd floor window...
Great pic of Johann Mj - looks like both he and WR were happy to be amongst 'em.
I have always wanted to say that IMO Lubo was a great - however I think some have clouded views from the length of time since he played. He did tackle a la Naka - but he also didn't tackle a la Naka. He could do things that no-one else could - like Naka.
My point is that these 2 players are almost identical in ability and comparisons should show that - some think Lubo was a better player but Nakas just in the door - just wait...
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Derbyshirebhoy,
I never got back to you about Sven in the Louden. SOme Irish guys were handing him wads of cash. I wonder what that was all about ?
Hail HAil
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Paul
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Johnbhoy,
With our commanding lead, and the consequentially improved empathy twixt fan and player,
don't you think there is now an earlier prospect of seeing more young guns in the hoops before the season's end?
I imagine happy full-houses, full of encouragement for the team and it's constituent parts (not least the fans themselves).
I believe the result yesterday gives us a launchpad to the next level.
Whhat do you think. As an old asthmatic I certainly know breathing space when I see it!
Charlie the(wheeze)dhog
Hail! hail!
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Kano...
There was also the inference,however vague,that if there wasn't some sort of control exercised over it you would throw your dummy out of the pram once again and refrain from posting.
Perhaps you would care to quote the particular passage I infered I would cease posting? I certainly made no such threat, oblique, vague or otherwise.
Believe me your negativity,although couched in what you would consider "better" language,would not be missed.
Thank you for your opinion.
Your criticism of Wilson for having the temerity to run with the ball into space is galling
Why is it galling? Because my opinion differs from yours? I at least try and reinforce my points with my cognitive process for coming to such a view point, you simply tell me it's galling. Please have the good grace to offer reasons why it's galling (other than that my opinion differs from yours).
Once again,all you can see from a thoroughly commanding performance at Ibrox is that Strachan is not the man for the job.
That's not the only conclusion I came to from watching the game. If it were, I doubt my post would have provoked such an apoplectic response from yourself.
Your statement "if Le Guen has one iota of tactical nous we'll be easily beaten" is complete nonsense.
Why? Once again you offer no reasoned argument, no empirical data and nothing in the way of substance to augment a statement of the absolute. Can you tell me why it's nonsense? I'll be happy to change my mind should you come up with a good reason for me to do so.
Your constant aguement,if you call it that,is that there is merely opinions and no-one is right or wrong.
No. That's not "my constant arguement [sic]". I am of the opinion that everyone sees a different game - that's because we're all subjective to an extent. For instance, we like the game played a certain way, we like certain players and we all take in different parts of the game. Some people wath the defence, others the attacking play. It's impossible for two people to draw the same conclusions from a match, except on the most shallow of levels. Uless you are tell me me that everyone has the same opinions about games of football. Excluding me, of course.
This is different in its entirety from saying "everything is opinion". There are always statistics to show patterns and trends. I'm sure people who actually pay attention to my musings will tell you I have a penchant for statistics for instance - and that I frequently use statistics to back up the myriad of theses I advance.
So in fact, you have come up with the self fulfilling prophesy. You are wrong! :-)
Well let me say,you are quite often wrong as you are once again on this thread.
The defence did play well,and Wilson was correct to take the ball into space.
Um...OK. That's me told. Why was he correct to take the ball into space? If you are so sure of your position, please furnish me with reasons why you are correct an dI am so, so wrong.
And also the joke on the previous thread about Presley was funny.Now there is a matter of opinion.
No, it's not. It's a matter of taste. Making light of a convicted paedophiles abuse is not funny. What else do you find funny? Jokes about Ian Brady? Is there a positive spin on the Holocaust? You might like to take note that the crime commited by Mr Rix had a victim. And a recent victim at that. Still, laugh away. Do you have a "funny" joke for us about Jimmy Johnstone and Motor Neurone Disease? Sorry, but some things shouldn't be laughed at.
Take all the plaudits you can from this,because the next hiccup will be awaited by bated breath by some,and the hatchets will be out again.
Sigh...The old "greenhun" stuff never dies. It just lies in wait for the next person unable to accept someone else might have a different opinion to them. There are no hatchets, only concerns. If Gordon Strachan is successful then Celtic are successful. Ergo, I want Strachan to be successful. I want massive moonbeams (tm) of success and opportunity for our club. Is that clear enough?
I sincerely wish I had such infrangible opinions so that I could post so absolutely. Such faith in ones own opinion is rare. It's also a double edged sword.
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Last paragraph in jest I assume.
Graham Rix is not a convicted Paedophile.
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Zbyszek,
Have you noticed a large increase in support for Celtic over your way this season, especially since your two lads are doing so well over here?
Just ask because I might be heading over to Poland in a month or two and wondered if there will be any packed Celtic bars to watch the games in?
Emjay,
re: the cheer for Hartson - same here. The roof almost came off! And at the final whistle... Wow!
Where were you watching it? We were in the IB in Edinburgh. Just an amazing atmosphere...
H
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Someone that follows french ball ...not eck... said last week that PLG though a good manager, had inherited a quality squad. Anybody have a good link an examination of what he did do there...what whas his early transfer history, support staff etc??
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Mikeybhoy,
First Bobo Balde is not on £29,000 per week he`s on £24,000!!! for the 100th time!!!.
Second, he cost us nothing - and was paid 10,000 per week in the first 4 years of his contract - so far he has cost us 55,000 per month over the time he has been here - compare this to Adam Virgo who so far has cost us £255,000 PER MONTH!!
Third , we could not get a world class defender for 24,000 per week - you just need to look at the transfer market - Ferdinand an example.
Fourth, if Bobo was on 15,000 a week then he would be great?? - he deserves more he is our best and most experianced defender - BTW a man mountain yesterday!!!
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p8ddy
get a grip - you cant compare ian brady to rix
not defending rix - but have you ever heard of the term jail-bait
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..well the dust has settled here in Rio, and what a day (and subsequent night) it was too. Another (nearly) faultless showing of the OF game viewed by an eager and ever growing band of us. Don’t really think that there’s that much to say about the game that hasn’t already been said but did think that the performance was more of the “good, solid, ground out result” variety rather than the “spectacular”
Afterwards (for me and a few others) it was off to Maracanã to watch a very shaky Botafogo overcome a mediocre America side 3-1 to win the first Cup of the season (and their first of this century). From 1-0 down at half time (and let off for a blatant penalty) captain Rafael Schiedt, scored the first (header from a corner) and laid on the second to help lift the MOTM award (oddly enough I think he was more Bobo-like, in this game, than Varga’esque). Good to see them win though and the highlight for me was being able to persuade a ten year old ‘fogense kid that there was no future in following the fortunes of R**gers and that the future of Scottish football lay with another team in Glasgow. Always good to win another convert over isn’t it?
PLG, or not to PLG? As far as I can see it doesn’t matter what happens there, it’s what WE do that matters. Have we all forgotten this?
(Oh, papers here saying that Juninho in transfer talks with Leeds).
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Ian_in _Budapest...
P8ddy, did you reply to my post on Saturday? How can we afford to sign the players needed to replace/improve upon the likes of Telfer, Camara, etc.? Where do you propose we raise additional revenue or reduce costs to acquire and pay these players? If the replacements are amongst our current crop of youngsters, why is the coaching staff not playing them? What have you seen, that the coaching staff has not?
Sorry Ian, I have replyed to this point before. I should try and remember that people don't (and probably shouldn't!) pay attention to all my posts.
Telfer and Camara - I don't think Either were cheap. Telfer came from the most cash rich league in the world, as paul67 has aluded to on many occasions. I doubt he was a bargain given also that we payed a transfer fee (£300k) for him. Camara? Likewise, I doubt he's up here on minimum wage. Now, given that both have been refered to from the very outset as squad players (ie deadwood) I think we had sufficient deadwood already. Jackie Mac was better than Camara or Telfer and I have to assume (given he signed for Wolves) would be in the same pay scale as Camara. Why do we bother signing players we know are not good enough? I could understand the move for either player if they were young, then they might represent at least a chance of a return on our investement.
I would much rather take a risk on a young player and be courageous. Also, filling our team full on championship players is fraught with danger. When you gamble, you might get it right once or twice, but the nature of gambling is that you lose. There are no poor bookmakers as the saying goes. If we sign players soley from the championship the chances are that we'll end up with a championship side. Dublin, Camara, Telfer - They are all from the wrong side of the tracks. Much has been made of WGS player database and the fact he spent a year studying players and methods all over the world - can we really not find better for cheaper (or the same money)? Or at least find players who will offer us a longer term investement?
If the youth setup is not good enough, then it's just another burning inditement of the asset management in place at Celtic! I don't believe it's poor, but we are not getting much of a chance to find out.
I'm not saying "it's all black! we're doomed!" but I am saying that we should only accept the highest standards. The problem we have is that a good European stature has been very hard to attain but is very easy to lose. Every move must be scrutinised for value for money.
Actually, I likeed Fergus McCanns approach to transfers - "How does this player show value for money?" As I am led to believe, Fergus didn't want to sign old players - period. He always had one eye on the sell on fee. Which was a good thing!
Anyway, I think I've made my case - I'll give you some peace!
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Apologies to anyone with a specific question today, I have been in meetings all day and not had a chance to catch up.
PlatowasaTim, the blog is messing with you. This is Internet Karma, have you done something wrong on the Internet before?
Bigtrainpete, I agree we showed Rangers more respect than we have any other team in recent months, but I suspect that is why we kept a clean sheet.
Darich67, Keane dropped out of the Celtic team only when he got injured, and was brought back after a couple of games on the bench.
Naka has been carrying an injury for a month now, and was clearly dropped for tactical reasons yesterday. He will be returned to the starting line up soon I suspect.
Kris Boyd has not started the last two games for Rangers (maybe more).
On the subject about holding a one goal lead or killing a team off:
I remember leaving CP after beating Barcelona 1-0, when we were down to 10 men and they were down to 9.
There were lots of complaints about O’Neill not ‘finishing them off’, “we had a great chance tonight, but he defended at home against 9 men”.
He got the result, though, and so did Strachan.
Many thanks lorcanWpg for the download and your kind clicks. Not looked at the podcast figures for today yet.
Derbyshirebhoy, you have just put a smile on my face. The thought that Rangers could recruit another Advocaat would be too good to be true.
Kojo, “three sheets to the wind”? Some time ago I posted a match report after a ‘long night out’.
Hmmm. Martin was on the email double quick.
Good point Parkheadcomesalford. It may be that we have never beaten Rangers six seasons in succession. Did we do it during 9 in a row?
This, and the period before the Great War, are the only times it could have happened.
Charliedhoy, the equilibrium you refer to is tenuous. A draw away to Inverness brought wailing and gnashing. I expect youth to be used sparingly.
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Travelbhoy
Good point...did DM not also say that McLeish knew who the next R*ngers manager would be?? This was in December.
I also read a statement , attributed to PLG, today along the lines of discussions had reopened after first talking last year.
So, if this has been the masterplan all along, why did discussions stop??
The Mint is in trouble, he paniced last week after a bit of verbals from the Rebels :-) outside Mordor.
I think he has to do everything to get PLG in because it is his last throw of the dice.
If not, I seriously hope Clyde hold out for good compo :-)
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Seeweedbhoy @ 4.29 p.m.
THIS IS YOUR LIFE reached the end of Strachan´s playing career and is due to return, due to popular demand, i.e. you, to shed some light on the managerial years. First stop is of course Coventry City and among the special guests who are negotiating their appearance fee are Ernie Machin and Willie Carr who were famous for a free kick, anyone remember?
In the same TV vein, Chris Burke is due to appear in " I´m a footballer get me out of here "
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thismancraig...
Graham Rix is not a convicted Paedophile.
Yes he is. Mr Rix spent one year in jail for having sex with a minor. He's on the Sex offenders register for 7 years and is not permitted to work with people under the age of 18.
spikeysAuldMan...
not defending rix - but have you ever heard of the term jail-bait
Was the girl in the short skirt asking to be raped?
The girl was a minor and not of sufficient maturity to make an informed and responsible choice. The courts agreed with that summation and jailed Rix.
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1. They haven't beaten Falkirk at all this season.
2. 50% of Aberdeens home wins have been against them.
3. A poor Celtic team have scored 6 for NO response in the last three matches against them.
4. Livvy hadn't scored 2 goals in a match until they played them.
5. Hibs have beaten them 3-0 at home twice.
6. They can't hold out against the Pars who have been reduced to 10 men.
7. They couldn't beat a pub team in the Champions League.
8. They haven't beaten Hibs all season scoring 1 against their 8.
9. They have secured one point form 9 against Aberdeen.
10. They have won less than 50% of their Premier League matches.
11. They hadn't beaten the Arabs since 2003 until last month.
12. They are 2 points infront of 5th placed Kilmarnock & play Hibs next. Killie play Livvy at home.
13. After 4 and 1/2 years they still do not have a left sided midfield player.
14. If asked Eck would not be able to name their best settled formation.
15. Porto should have pumped them in both legs of the CL.
16. They are currently FOURTH in the SPL.
17. They were knocked out of the CIS Cup by a spineless performance at Celtic Park.
18. They were humbled by a Hibs team at Ibrox in the Scottish Cup.
19. They went 11 games without a win - a club record
20. Celtic have had only 3 clean sheets in their last 15 games, they were the opposition on those 3 occasions.
21. Only motherwell and killie have failed to take points from them this season.
Hail Hail
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P8ddy
Always wanted to do this!
Um...OK. That's me told. Why was he correct to take the ball into space? If you are so sure of your position, please furnish me with reasons why you are correct an dI am so, so wrong.
Wilson collected the ball. He looked up the left channel for a pass upfield but saw nobody. He turned inside with the intention of finding a midfield pass but nobody was forward and open. He continued his run across with the intention of finding someone open. Eventually having crossed the park this opened up in front of him and he played the ball.
Seems to me that a mature possession game was being played and he made the right selections if he had confidence that his back was covered? Was his back covered? I think so.
Is that OK for a justification?
:-}
Dumbhoywholikesp8ddyschallengeto thesite
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RTT-Machin had the ball between his feet and then flicked it up for Carr to volley it into the net[or the other way round]
They only did it once because the rules were changed.
Will Jimmy Hill be making an appearance?
And the brown away strip?
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Don´tbratt, I think it was Willie who lifted it with both feet and Machin who volleyed it into the net. But memory plays funny tricks.
Jimmy Hill is a toepoke away from settling terms with Eamonn. That brown strip may be cited to illustrate the relegation struggle at Highfield road in Strach's darkest moment.
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dumbhoy...
Hurrah!!! :-)
At last I've had a bolding! ;-) Should I now tell you to get a grip in response? Or call you a "greenhun" ;-D
Anyway...
Wilson collected the ball. He looked up the left channel for a pass upfield but saw nobody. He turned inside with the intention of finding a midfield pass but nobody was forward and open. He continued his run across with the intention of finding someone open. Eventually having crossed the park this opened up in front of him and he played the ball.
I'd rather he played a square ball to the centre backs or passed the ball to an available midfielder. If no midfielder is available, pass the ball back and start again. And ask the question why no midfielders or forwards were ready to accept a pass.
More or less, you're right - In the sense that no harm came of it. He didn't lose possession, they didn't exploit the space and score the first of a barrowload of goals. However, I'd rather see a disciplined performance where the players get used to playing in a certain manner. Just as Bobo gets caught in possession in these circumstances, so will Wilson (if it becomes habit forming). How ofter have we told Bobo to clear his lines, to ensure the security of the defence over football? Certainly, it's the part of his game that's regarded as a weakness. Wilson doesn't have this, yet, but bad habits are easy to come by. A better team will exploit such foibles. Mark Wilson wass (on this occasion)a left back. I'd like to see the team retain its shape and discipline in the hope that a disaster will never visit it. If we get used to a solid system the team will progress (in my opinion) That we play a system where the players know where they are and are not reliant on the paucity of the oppositions attack is the aim.
I hope you can see where I'm coming from on this.
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David Murray's sleepless nights
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apologies p8ddy
didnt realise that rix was a rapist
or is that just in the technical sense ?
serious question not doubting/joking etc
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the green room is being reserved for Steve Ogrizovic?
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Paul,
Maybe you are right.
I have PROFOUND faith in the Celtic support and believe we will, as a club, become more relaxed and increased in our collective self-worth as the days and weeks pass.
We should, therefore,
be able to cut the team more slack.
We must take advantage of any respite to prepare the team for the campaigns ahead.
The major remaining anxiety between now and the day we lift the championship trophy, will be getting a hold of tickets to see it happen .
I hope it's at celtic Park!
Hail! hail!
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P8ddy,
Gies a break, You´ll be criticising Mc Manus for scoring too much next. Jock Stein used to make players play out of position in training so that they got an idea of what there team mates had to do. He was a master at spotting a player who was palying in the wrong position.
Wilson has played in a winning Dundee Utd team in midfield against Rangers. He can play there too. It was the right thing to do (if he has cover) (which he had). Did you ever see Danny Mc Grain go on his run the day that we won the league at St. Mirren on goal difference. No disrespect but thank god it was Jock that coached him and not you.
Your eloquence, wit and general etiquette could be put to better use without you compromising your principles. Sometimes I feel that you cant see the trees for the bushes.
HAil Hail
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I get the sense that David Murray's "Moonbeams" statement will tickle Celtic fans for a long time.
I'm certainly going to use it as a stick until such times as they have any success (and probably after then also) :-)
Paul67...
I remember leaving CP after beating Barcelona 1-0, when we were down to 10 men and they were down to 9.
There were lots of complaints about O’Neill not ‘finishing them off’, “we had a great chance tonight, but he defended at home against 9 men”.
Much as I appreciate the sentiment, there is no comparing a two leg European tie or indeed an 8 match league with the Rangers game in the SPL. It's chalk and cheese and not an appropriate comparison.
However, as you say, we got the result and the manager has to share in the plaudits for not only getting the win, but for keeping a clean sheet.
I hope it's the first of many! :-)
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spikeysAuldMan...
Graham Rix plied a 15 year old girl with alcohol and drugs and had sex with her, despite her protestations. The judge said that the girl had been infatuated with him and had, to that extend been a willing partner in less intimate acts with Rix.
The girl was the daughter of one of Rix's friends.
Ken Bates came out in defence of Rix, but the case makes very unsavoury reading.
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Good line from David Potter on KTF, talking about the currant buns he states,"they are improving 0-3 last saturday, 0-2 on wednesday and 0-1 on sunday. They will probably get a 0-0 draw in their next match. yours John-b.
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Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo...
Jock Stein used to make players play out of position in training so that they got an idea of what there team mates had to do. He was a master at spotting a player who was palying in the wrong position.
What relevance does that have to Mark Wilson abandoning his position to go wondering up the field. He wasn't played out of postion, he wasn't in training. You point being? You have your opinions on how the team should be made up. I have mine. I think that discipline and a srong formation will make Celtic a formidable team. A weak foundation will make a weak structure no matter the quality of materials used.
It was the right thing to do (if he has cover) (which he had). Did you ever see Danny Mc Grain go on his run the day that we won the league at St. Mirren on goal difference. No disrespect but thank god it was Jock that coached him and not you.
Danny McGrain, in his later years played in a very poor Celtic team (look at our European "achievements") and a team for which shape was a yogurty drink rather than a team plan. I think your post sums up nicely the point I'm making. World class full back with decent players around him in a perennially underachieving Billy McNeill team. Why? The players should have achieved much more than they did. Paul McStay must wonder what happened to his career! What happened was there was no shape and no discipline in the way the team played. Good teams exploited this. Repeatedly.
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On the subject of jailbait-Rhona Martin and the bonny wee bravehearts of the GBcurling team have one their opening bonspeil at the Winter Olympics 3-2 against Denmark.
That's a wee moonbeam we can all agree on,surely?
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p8ddy
fair enough - quick trawl thro decent sites doesnt mention plied drink & drugs so i stand corrected
back to the footie then...
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Don´tbratt; Couldn´t Ogrizovic get a place on the bench in your behind the curtain 11?
Great post Martybhoy at 5.32 p.m. enough arguments there to put down any Rangers media apologists and ne'er do wells!!
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P8ddy,
I agree with you, that "joke" was in bad taste.
On the Celtic, what do you think we should be doing, in terms of the squad, between now and the end of the season? We've got some good young guys in reserve, and one or two average, albeit experienced people holding places in the first team.
Since it is unlikely we will add to the squad before the season's (victorious)culmination, I, for one would value your opinion!
Hail! hail! P8ddy!
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curling - cmon tae f*** !!!! I know we're all in a good mood - even rugby is more relevant
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What do you reckon Mr Murray was listening to on the car radio before his Moonbeam interview:
The Mint's Playlist -
Blue Moon
Once in a Blue Moon - Frankie Miller
Under the Moon of Love - Showaddywaddy
Moonlight Shadow - Sally Oldfield
Walking on the Moon - the Police
Moon River - Andy Williams
Bad Moon Rising - Creedence Clearwater Revival
Rocket to the Moon - Runrig
or perhaps he was listening to Pink Floyd's "Dark side of the Moon" or had just watched Jim Carey in "Man on the Moon" or read David Niven's "The Moon's a Balloon".
Whatever inspired him, I'm sure none of the above refer to a moonbeam of success, is he known to indulge in the occassional hallucinogenic? Is he remembering when his mum used to tell him about the man on the moon? has he just gone barking mad?
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Guys,
I've been told this is the "Moonbeam" deal Murray is talking about! rangers will rename the stadium.
check it out!!
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=2/4212272995.jpg&s=x7
Martybhoy
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IF we had gone for the jugular on Sunday....and ended up with a 3 or 4 goal victory.....it would have been fantastic.....BUT
....who do you think would have been picking the Rangers team for the game against Hibs this weekend...
i'll happily take a very comfortable 1-0 and big eck in charge for as long as possible..
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P8DDY,
my point being was that Wilson chose the correct option at the time.
What you advocated he do was the wrong option.
Anybody who has played football at a decent level will tell you that and yes I have. I suggest you see if you can find anyone who has a similar opinion to you. I think you will find that statistically you will find nobody who agrees with you. This of course does not make your opinion invalid but it does mean that you are considered wrong by everybody else in the controlled experiment. I,e an outlier
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BarcaBhoy
Eck would still have been here if the currants had lost 10 nil as The Mint cannot afford to pay him off!
P8ddy:
What relevance does that have to Mark Wilson abandoning his position to go wondering up the field. He wasn't played out of postion, he wasn't in training.
Mark Wilson is a right-back and was therefore played out of position.
Consider yourself bolded young man!
Keep up the good arguments though (and you awe-naw)
I would rather read lots of people with differing views than everyone with the same view (as you get on swallow-swallow). This site is a haven for free-speaking and we should be glad of it.
Guigsy
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……just read this on another site. Anybody know anything about it and if it will have any consequences on our CL aspirations?
“…………..AZ and Feyenoord supporters are up in arms over the Dutch FA because of the way they will hand out the UEFA Champions League places this season.
The Dutch FA have had a momentary lapse of sense concerning their two Champions League places by awarding one place to the winner of the Dutch League. The final spot will be decided by a place off between the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th placed teams, this is a new idea introduced by the Dutch FA for this season, in a World Cup year.
Currently AZ and Feynoord are 15 points ahead of Heerenveen and Ajax with only 10 games left. So for Ajax this could be a big get out of jail card should they win the playoffs for the last Champions League spot……..”
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Watch the SFA follow suit with regards the Dutch initative
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P8DDY,
Do you remember the 2-0 win at home to Real Madrid (George McCluskey played a blinder), only to be followed by a 0-3 reverse in Madrid? The first leg was won by pace and the motivational skils. the second leg was lost by tactical ineptitude.
On the other hand, Where should Tommy Gemmell have been when he scored in Milan?
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P&ddy
There is no reference to Graham Rix 'plying' his victim with 'drink and drugs' on any of the news reports I've read.
He met his victim at a West London hotel and had unlawful sex with her.
Perhaps he shouldn't be able to work in football or with 'minors' however the fact the incident took place sometime in early 1998 and that he has served his punishment for it is he not due some level of forgiveness?
I think Rix has conducted himself with great dignity since his arrival in Scotland and deserves better than the labelling I've read on this site amongst other places.
Also regarding your comment on Wilson 'abandoning his position to go wandering up the field'. Its not netball we're playing here. Football is a fluid game where its participants inevitably have to leave there area of the field. There team mates then cover for them!
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P8DDY,
Sorry about the typography!
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the fact the young wilson, ran inside with the ball, kept his composure and kept going until he saw an option, DESERVES GREAT CREDIT... very un scottish like..
to me, he looked a very good player yesterday....
paddy, there is a huge difference in a rb or lb running with the ball, than a centre half...
i also thought telfer was good yesterday....
the fact the BBJ covered more ground than usual, would mean the the dublin signing has been beneficial....
all in all a good weekend, but im all for marauding full backs...
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Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said...
Watch the SFA follow suit with regards the Dutch initative
6:41 PM
Shouldn't that be the "Orange" initiative?
hehehe
Has Jim Farry sneaked back in??
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Marty,
I think that the suggested renaiming wud be a gd idea for everyone concerned over at castle greyskull. And it would let all european teams kno exactly wat ******* are like as a tam on the whole......however they need more than a ground renaiming they could do with a new team shoved into that deal jist to make it a bit more of a challenge.... so any one fancy contributing to the ECK MUST STAY fund give me a shout lol ;-)
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An occasional good run just to serve notice is needed but camara and wallace were gone too much even when we were keeping clean sheets.
i'm not too keen on marauding full backs.
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Godfather
At the risk oif going off topic..yoiu talk about showing some forgiveness. This is admirable but given the fact that he had sex with an underage girl would you be happy for him to be teaching a class of kids if your 15year old daughter was in it??
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I think wilson has walked in well on both sides. Is he the solution to left back...i don't think anyone feels that but is he steadier at left and telfer steadier at right than camara or wallace have been at left...yes.
Get camara sorted for left if possible, and let wallace get back to making a spot left mid if possible.
I think the post earlier re balde/virgo costs is an eye opener though i'd like to see similar time frames compared.
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excellent article Paul.
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darich67
I understand what you mean but remember he is not a school teacher.
He is a football coach and under the terms of his entry on the sex offenders register he is not allowed to be with children (u16?) without supervision.
Rix made a huge error in judgement and carried out a crime for which he was duly punished. I just don't think we should be hanging the guy out to dry.
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P8ddy.
As some mustachiode buffon used to say, it's a funny old game.
Didier finally leaves the club and, within a fortnight, we find the only guy in parkhead who wasn't screaming for him to bomb forward at every opportunity.
You should send him a card.
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I used to travel on the Shotts bus. They never sung when we won. it was morgue-like on the way home. But if we got beat, that was a different matter! The Shotts bhoys used to SING! TBOTOB was one of their more modern tunes. "Hail Glorious St Patrick" was the favourite, plus songs about the Coronation Cup, Jimmy McGrory, and obscure renditions about Everton and chucking the Liverpool jerseys in the Mersey! the Works Corner(where we waited for the bus) was, and probably remains, the coldest place in Scotland!
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Godfather
I understand what you're saying too.
The fact that he isn't a teacher isn't the point of my argument but I'm not hanging the guy out to dry either.
I think the fact he must be supervised with the youngsters at the club tells it's own story.
Anyway.....let's forget about Rix and celebrate humping the huns in their own midden!!
PS ok not a humping but 3 points nevertheless :)
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p&ddy
How many more times are you going to repeat that tired old mantra re Jackie Mc Namara ? Your premise, correct me if I’m wrong, seems to read that we could have retained Mc Namara for what it cost to secure either Paul Telfer or Mo Camara. Can you tell me what Fact (excuse me I can’t bold) you have to support that premise other than your opinion? Why do you think Wolves would be playing players the same as Burnley? Where did you get your figure of 300k from for Paul Telfer?
If you had had WGS’s budget how would you have spent what you had? What strategy would you have adopted? You say you would much rather take a risk on a young player and be courageous. I presume you’re happy with the purchase of Wilson. Were you happy with the Wallace experiment?
You say that” If we sign players solely from the championship the chances are that we'll end up with a championship side.” Championship sides get promoted to the Premiership don’t they and of course we aren’t only signing Championship players are we or do you include Boruc Naka Roy Keane Magic in that comment?
Can you not accept there is a strategy underway commensurate with the basis of squad inherited the funds and players available and as with all strategies it will take time to evolve? You may not like the strategy you may have the opinion that there should be a different one but do you accept there is one?
You say that “If the youth setup is not good enough, then it's just another burning inditement (sic) of the asset management in place at Celtic! I don't believe it's poor, but we are not getting much of a chance to find out. “ So the introduction regularly of Beattie Maloney Mc Geady Wallace and Mc Glinchey has gome un-noticed by you? Are you aware of the regular exposure of the young players to first team training? Tell me do you see anything of the younger players in the reserves or the under 19’s to help you form a judgement whether they are ready or not ? Do you support the placement of Charlie Mulgrew on loan with Dundee Utd or not?
Value for money - agree entirely. Whether one player is over an other is however a subjective judgement is it not?
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Heard from press mate that Fernando the commando has been attending drink rehab in Holland.
That's why he was dropped on Sunday.
PLG will he not want pacy French African players. I'm sure they'll enjoy a cold midweek tie in Inverness mid winter.
Great result yesterday 1 going on 4.
I'm sure if it was a boxing match it would have been stopped.
They needed a knockout top steal a draw.
Also re Mark Wilson... Did Daniel Fergus not play equally well at left back while Jandy Sardine was accomodated at right back for Scotland.
Hail Hail.
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According to the Record Arsenal are"poised" to offer Didier a contract until the end of the season with Blackburn and Birmingham also competing for his signature
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Possibly been alluded to before re left backs atying where they're put, but....Gemmell, May 25th. 1967 - watch the video not just the goal!
Hail hail
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whoops - should be 'staying'
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Druiddude,
I hope Didier signs for Arsenal. Arsene is likely to bring him out of his shell. Agathe needs good man-management, and Arsene Wenger has plenty of that!
Gho Bhoy Gho!
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Just in case you missed this last night.....
Oh the Rangers are dead
21 points ahead
oh the Rangers are flops
and the Celtic are tops
There`s no joy bein` a hun
cos your season is done
you have made panic buys
and your chairman tells lies
Oh the future is bleak
you`ve still got that big Greek
you don`t have any fight
and your captain is shite
And big Poorshow`s a dud
and wee Novo`s a fud
Oh the bluebells are blue
Lovenkrands is shite too
you deserve all you get
and you`re saddled with debt
now there`s no turning back
and Big Eck got the sack
Look at us, we`re real fans
look at us sing and dance
but we can`t look at you
cos your ugly too
You don`t have any style
and your songs are just bile
as for `Simply the Best`
you must sing that in jest
Cos you`re simply the worst
and The Celtic are first
let me just sum it up
we have won the Big Cup
I`m not drinking again
i`ve had too much champagne
post on Celtic Quicknews
when I`ve had too much booze
Let me leave you with this
"Oh the Rangers are piss"
Kirsty`s still in ma bed
Nothin left to be said
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darich67
humping and Rix in the same sentence. . . .
Sorry we've been there!
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Perhaps not the best experssion to use in the context!!!
Ooops!!!
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Interesting to read that Le Guen has admitted to discussing a move with Rangers today.
If Murray somwhow surprises us all and does find some cash,I wonder if this will be their equivalent of MON arriving here in 2000.
It's been readily acknowledged on here previously that the Celtic board took quite a risk on the financial strategy to allow MON to spend big when he arrived.And this was without the level of debt currently being carried by Rangers.
My point being that if he somehow agrees to join them he MUST get it right.If he spends big(ish) and fails what then?
I admit that when WGS was appointed I felt that a Hitzfeld or a Le Guen would have been a better option.The man has a successful recent history which has to be acknowledged so if he does come here then we need to set our standards even higher.
Despite all this,I still find it hard to believe he will take the job at Ibrox.He has spoken to numerous clubs over the last year or so,I believe he was even over in Russia at one stage last year looking at Shaktar Donetsk.I have a feeling he'll say "non" and sit tight till the summer to see what other bigger jobs become available.
Let's face it,after having had his assistant view the game yesterday,I doubt he'll be in any hurry to move here and take on something that goes way beyond the "interesting project" terminology.
BankieBhoy
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If Le Guenn goes to the huns,
he ain't astute!
succinct Charliedhog
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Travelbhoy 5:02
I'm pretty sure Murray doesn't own the Mound, I think all the land on the Royal Mile is officially owned by Her Maj, therefore there is no chance of BoS favouring the Rang...
...oh, hold on...
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Bankiebhoy
I agree. If the mint does pull this off it is an amazing coup.
However if PLG has waited this long to take a job refusing various club jobs and the Russian international job why would he not wait until the summer?
There are numerous jobs that would be much more attractive than the one on offer at Ibrox.
I can't help but thinking he is being honourable and extending Rangers his courtesy but will reject them for Madrid or similar.
Is this Murray's getout? PLG wants more time but he might come in the summer; thereby temporarily appointing say John Brown/Ian Durrant/Ally McCoist until then; then giving them one of them the job on a full time basis as they deserv it?
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Paul 67 said:"Kris Boyd has not started the last two games for Rangers (maybe more)."
A quick check of the facts shows that until Sunday's Ibrox game, Kris Boyd had started EVERY game since his transfer from Kilmarnock.
He was in the Rangers starting line-up against Aberdeen, Hibs, Inverness CT, Livingston, Motherwell and Peterhead.
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Yo ho ho and off we go
21 clear and lots more to go
Bye Bye Rankers
Murry's on hard drugs again
Money to spend for Paul Le Guen
Bye Bye Rankers
You can(T) sing 'bout no surrender
Bite your nails cos you've got crap defenders
Let me give you this we tip
better watch out or you wont make the split
Rankers BYE BYE
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Thanks ternar.
Bankiebhoy, totally agree on the precipice that Rangers currently stand on. It they fail at this stage I am on record as saying we face two generations of domination.
Denia Bhoy, “Blue Moon”. I have banked that for future use if that is all right with you.
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God Bless Celtic
and all here of a Celtic persuasion
A True Tim by the psudonym
Charliedhog
AKA
James Patrick McLaughlin
late of
Moville
Inishowen
Donegal
Ireland
Celtic, celtic,
That's the team for me;
Celtic, Celtic,
I hope you all agree!
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Sean South
He missed a gilt edge chance against Hibs, played poorly throughout then was substituted at half time against Aberdeen after another innocuous display.
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Monteblanco, I think you should leave the rhyming and songs to bobby russell
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Italiabhoy - this came from a reliable mouth - but as I couldn't find anything on the web wondered if we had any CQN Commercial Property buffs...
Its important to me as theres been a lot of talk on CQN about MIH finances - or lack of them - and I wondered if there were some things we weren't seeing.
Anyhow enough of them - I am away to ponder the Mark Wilson run across the pitch versus a square ball malarky.
TB
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Can anyone recommend somewhere to watch the Celtic game on Sunday in Kensington, London?
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As much as I don't think it will happen, maybe it could be a good thing.
If PlG is as good as everybody thinks he is (personally I have my reservations), bring it on - not for RFC in particular but for the level of competition in the SPL in general. I think most people agree there has been a general improvement this season (for various reasons: Hearts, Hibs, Killie, etc).
Anyway, it was good to keep a clean sheet yesterday especially after Dublin's "long range SHIT from the wing"
(thanks MikeyBhoy).
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You are spot on, Derbyshirebhoy.He was mibce against both Hibs and Aberdeen. I was merely pointing out he was an ever-present until being benched for the start of Sunday's game.
Just to go back to Paul67's interesting historical stat about wins at Ibrox we did manage away wins against Rangers in FIVE consecutive SEASONS from 1980-81 through to 1984-85, but they weren't in consective calendar years.
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To be fare to Paul 67 Boyd might as well have not started in the last 2 games for all he contributed.
Any of you who did visit Donetsk would know why PLG didn't fancy living there. Even although the new stadium development wil be in place the rank rotten cordite filled atmosphere and corruption makes Rangers look much more appealing ......? or am I getting confused ??
Actually the Murray master plan (this week) is sign up Le Guen, and the sell him to Newcastle next week, with a sell on deal for when he goes to Madrid in the close season. Thereby netting enough cash to buy back Thompson from Cardiff as star close season signing.
I cannot wait to see the response if this deal does fall through...think about who holds the upper hand as the negotiations are taking place....I think the 'minted one's' vanity has shot him in the foot once more.
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paul 67 - you said previously that there was more chance of you taking over at ibrox than paul le guen - can you confirm if you have been in talks with rangers then??
