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and a good game it was too
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Do I get an oscar?
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3-1?
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Decent 2nd half performance. Gordon made the right substitution at the right time.
Stan took his goal well, as did Maloney and Magic finished a chance you would expect him to.
As the Peugeout adverts says "STRENGTH to STREGHTH"
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Glass Half Full. Doh! Late night posting, my apologies.
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Paul
Late night posting = wee bit beverinoed (word?)
...or not?
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Third goal was a peach. Petrov is regaining his confidence, and playing with RK is giving everyone a lift.
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Ritchie, I wish the excuse was that easy.
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Very good 3 NIL! win going on 5 or 6
Confidence back and it showed as this was the most one sided match at home for a while. Even allowing for Aberdeen's ten minute spell in the 2nd half where they could have taken the lead.
League titles are normally won Feb, Mar, Apr (the business end as it's often referred too). And as we have won another big match today bearing in mind we go to Easter Road next week with our 13 point lead intact surely we must reintroduce Nakamura's skills to the starting XI?
However as for today well done Celtic and Mr Strachan.
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Has anyone noticed that since Keane and Lennon in same midfield, that the chances to opposition has been limited.
And for Boruc's blunder, we would be 3 clean sheets.
No coincidence to good performences and results.
Paul67
You've not answered 1 of my questions yet.
But why do we continually harp on about Rangers manager, financial injection on this site?
When we should be maybe congratulating Gordon and the players for the turnaround of fortunes this season. NEW team, STYLE, players, injection of youth.
Instead we read about Rangers. They are looking for cash, manager to compete with US!!!!!!!!!
Yes they will have cash. But for the first time in my celtic following, we have a foundation to rise to that challenge. And Gordon is a BIG part of that.
Heraldo
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Dubaibhoy
From the last thread.
I am very fond of the germans. They expanded my schemie mentality somewhat on some memorable sporting visits to the Saarland and Moenchengladbach [the Likely Lads said this was the equivalent of West Hartlepool but it sure beat Castlemilk (and Coatbridge] to me)in the 70's and I owe them a lot more than just Andy Thom. For that reason, I am willing to overlook their bad haircuts- there may well have been East German mullets but I cannot see any 21st century equivalent to the ToiletBlock's coiffure. It is the Alan Rough perm of mullets and it bespeaks his ability to size up situations. And still Big Eck leaves Klos in the reserves- how can Villereal lose?
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On the Petrov matter I am firmly of the opinion that the guy was not delivering for quite a spell this year. Blowing hot and cold, but mostly cold. He has had a few blinders indeed and the Aberdeen performance was Awesome. Loved it, loved his performance, loved his attidude and his skill.We will be blessed if he can deliver such performances on a consistent basisa and I truly hope he does.
Its a bit unfair of some to chastise those who hold the 'hot and cold' opinion of the man. Those who in the past have all but declared the fellow as walking on water are entitled to their opinion.
I could be wrong in my opinion, but then again, so could others.
hail, hail.
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Ian_in_budapest,
Sorry I am so late in getting back to you, I was away watching "Match of the Day". I got the stats from the soccerbase website.
I am just trying the generate some good angles on Gordon Strachan and illusrate the job he is/has achieved.
I for one think he has done a great job so far and as an indication of this, the 3 defeats of Rangers on the trot, 6 goals for and 0 against, would have had everyone proclaiming MON the messiah. No, Strachan will have to work doubly hard to win over some. For me he has put Rangers back in their place and if he wins the next one at Celtic park then four in a row gets us close to the record 7 in a row that MON did.
Credit to the wee man.
And he gave us Nakamura and Maloney,
Zurawski, Beattie, McManus, Keane and WILSON..........
Hail, Hail
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monthehoops..more power to your six typing fingers!
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goood result.
well done WGS and the bhoys.
How is everyone on CQN?
Big P67. how you doing?
If kojo can back track then so can i!
Was posted on here many a moon ago that Naka was our match winner. and so it was proved correct
CQN still rocks.
without the posters it is nothing though.
ESTADIO I salute you!
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SuperlativeCelt
When was Estadios last gem? I may have missed it.
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Paul67
Read my article on my blog.
I'm away for 8 months of the year, and this is the drivvle i listen to when i'm back.
I wonder how many of the people around me, went to the games in the 80's and 90's.
And when will they realise, that we ain't in the same league as the EPL teams, due to the TV revenue.
We are BIGGER than most of these clubs, but as i have said umpteen times, the financial climate we live in dictates our SPENDING.
Thats why we should appreciate our current success.
Heraldo
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Supercelt
How you doin buddy?
Yeah, i said when naka came on changed the game.
Any more pics?
Heraldo
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Richie. he done a few today.
His last classic was about angelina jolie (look it up).
More than a blogger.
Superlaxative csc ***rolls eyes***
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loads more pics heraldo.
which pics do you want?
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Supercelt
keano ones, would be good. going to an article on the GREAT man.
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Supercelt
how do i get an animated pic on blog???????
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Bangla Boy
RE watching the games in Bangkok.
Gullivers- big pub on Sukhumvit soi 5. It's a sort of sports orientated bar, and through the back the usually play SPL games. I don't go now cause the last time I went was Black Sunday-superstition and all that- but there's often a good wee crowd of like minded people.
Also a Scottish bar on Sukhumvit soi 22 shows the games. Never been there.
Not posted for a while but not stopped reading. Great goals yesterday, and adding those to the Dunfermilne goals I also saw, it just looks like we're playing too fast for the defences to cope as opposition defences have been made to look like statues!! Long may it continue. WGS likes to keep pace on the bench which I like. Also, team spirit- does the whole team celebrate together after every goal? It has the beginnings of a 'team' and it's times like that I like the press not being 'on our side'. It helps create the bond, and a good attitude in the team
Right, off to work.
Hail!Hail!
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supercelt
Found the Estadio seam. Needs to be extracted and absorbed.
HH
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Hi all
I was at the game today and we dominated the first 45 mins and could have scored 3 goals.
Artur saved us at a crucial time with an outstandind save in the second half.
For the life of me I do not understand putting Stan through the middle,yes JH off but why Stan there?
Brill result 3 more towards the ultimate prize, nothing else this season matters.
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Ah, the twilight hours………………….! How I love thee……………………! Nobody here, nobody reads, and nobody cares ????????????????????
Anyhoo……………! 2 pairs of thermal longjohns, lined jogging pants thermal long-sleeve shirt, t-shirt, Celtic jersey, puffy jacket, scarf, hat gloves………………….sorted.
What is your problem ????????????? It’s cold………..dress accordingly……………..FGS !!!
First half, chances galore. Unlucky/poor finishing/good goalkeeping…………..0-0
Second half, exit BBJ, and a revelation……….! Space, style and creativity, courtesy of ??????????? Stan The Man. To be fair, great defence splitting pass from Telfer for the first goal…………. Up until this point, my MOTM was wee Shaun, but after this ???????????? “There’s only one Stan Petrov…………..”
At no point were they going to win. At no point did I think we wouldn’t take 3 points. Fact !!!!!!!!!!!! Why ? Just ‘cause. This is a team who now BELIEVES !!!.
I call it the RK effect. Whether real, imagined or fact, there is no denying Roy’s influence in this team. They are starting to believe. Is it any wonder ? How many playing today have a League winner’s medal ???????????
3, 4 ??? ( excluding RK ). That means 7-8 players charting unknown waters, and I might add, very successfully. The wee man deserves his day in the sunshine, so, all you dissenters…………………….GTF…………..SERIOUSLY........... NAW......... I MEAN IT.
GIES PEACE, FFS.
Gordon, "Your Day Will Come "
pablophanque
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will supply the pics tomorrow lads.
I always deliver.. ask mrs noel :)))
estadio - more than a blog put together ffs
The man is a celtic forum legend
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Pablo Stay off the hard stuff.
Gave up on CH67 ... Too much bufferage (again). Gonna try changing to a different ISP with a faster upload speed.
All in all, another good day at the office. Another three points in the bag brings us closer to the Holy Grail
(sorry, all the little nods to Python brought that out).
Hail! Hail! and goodnight.
Corpachbhoy
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Is it a stockbroker?
Is it a QUANTITY SURVEYOR?
Is it a Church Warden?
NO. It's Bicycle Repair Man
Monty Python and a QS seminar all in the same week is bound to effect mental disturbance.
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Good morning crew-
This old ship is flying through the waves now-
icebergs disappearing fast-
maybe just a little growler on the horizon........
Once we pass that, the Admiral can surely set a new course-
for The League Of Champions-
the gates are open for us..........
Supercelt-swift kick in the balls when I next see you for snide comment about my missus............
I,m off.
noel.
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From my lowly vantage point it seemed we were transformed the moment Naka came on.
Instant confidence and self-belief that moves would come to fruition meant that, all of a sudden everyone believed that something begun would pay off and so bags more movement in anticipation.
With BBJ upfront there seemed to be less fluidity and creativity as moves fizzled out. When he went there was instead a sense of more being possible.
It's beyond argument that BBJ has at times singlehandedly carried the team on his big shoulders, but when it's not working for him others seem less creative too.
Just a thought........
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Afternoon Paul,fellow tims and Edward.
Apart from a sticky 20-25 minutes or so,excellent performance from Celtic.Particularly Petrov,Keane and Maloney,and a wee word for Bobo,who, apart from one lunge which led to McManus having to deal with an absolutely raving bonkers Keane(man that was scary to watch),I thought had a cracker of a game too.
A big thanks too to C67,whose service over the last three weeks has been nothing short of magnificent.No buffering, no time lapse, and a constant stream of at least 450k.You have taken a lot of crap while attempting to get this thing up and running guys.
Now you deserve the kudos for supplying us with a truly outstanding broadcast of the game.
Oh and well done Mr Strachan,keep telling it like you see it.You may not win over some of the doubters,but then,who cares.
Hail Hail
Kano
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Monthehoops, I had a look at the soccerbase site and found a qualifying comment after the stats for Jock Stein (NB: Only games with a date in the database counted here). This may account for the apparent low number of matches. Short of wading through the official Celtic site's record of fixtures, I can't locate statistics for the total number of games Jock Stein was manager of the club. However, logic says it has to be many more than Martin O'Neil.
Does anyone have this statistic at hand?
Jock Stein's managerial career
Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn
Leeds 21-08-1978 04-10-1978 10 4 3 3
Celtic 01-08-1965 31-05-1978 285 198 40 47
Hibernian 01-08-1964 31-07-1965 9 5 2 2
Dunfermline 01-03-1960 31-07-1964 47 26 15 6
NB: Only games with a date in the database counted here
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the more you see 'che keano' the more you realise you are in the prescence of greatness.
pablo....reckon it will take qualification from CL group to convince fans that WGS is the real deal.
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monthehoops,
C'mon man,The only reason that Celtic are in a commanding position is little to do with Strachan,although he is doing a good job with lots to prove,especially in the defence,and tactics department.
The over spending of Murray and co for the last 15 years (300million and counting) has put us where we are now.
Fargo, don't wriggle out the Petrov situation,you had him sold and packaged with a stamp on just a few weeks ago.
Poor run of form? how about Telfer,Camara,Balde,Thompson,LennonHartson etc?Petrov was one of the rays of light in the team last year.
The reason Stan is a man again is because he can see light at the end of the tunnel.
No midfeild to mention since the end of last season,playing on with an injury yet he was supposed continue getting played on the right out of position.The whole team was falling apart yet he was one of the main stays,granted,not playing great all the time,see above for reasons.
When we have another midfielder playing along side RK then you will see Stan the Man take control.
Funny you mention the great game he just had,in the position that he has continued to say is his best,down the middle.
Funny how you change your tact to suit the situation once again.
Just glad your off Stan's back, makes you sound a bit more credible for a while.
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Kano,I do agree with you about C67,
Problem is,Too many fans at home and abroad have less that decent quality Broadband and C67 gets the blame.
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Do you think Keano is going to earn repect shouting at players like McManus like that? he's not going to learn much from that,
If it wasn't Keano,I'm sure McManus would have decked the guy.
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In in Budapest.
Link below will give you the stats for all Celtic managers up to John Barnes.
http://www.nafcsc.com/laceltic/managers.htm#4
Don't know how accurate it all is but it looks prettty accurate.
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Cheers Mr Russell,(JQ rolls his eyes sarcastically)you've let the cat out the bag,noo everybody knows we are mates,there goes any slight credibilty i had left.Having said that i heartily agree with everything on your list,GOD BLESS JIMMY JOHNSTONE.
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No chat yet on Rangers new manager or money anyone seen the morning press if it was good news for them thought it would be leaked by now
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Thoroughly excellent performance yesterday.
Keane had a great game and looked like he was enjoying himself.
Stan was awesome and gave away what could've been his 2nd goal to lay it on a plate for Magic. Thats team spirit.
I'm not sure the game did turn when Nakamura came on but we just started taking our chances.
And typically as soon as the 2nd goal went in the part timers started leaving while still singing 'We shall not be moved'.
Good displays from both sets of fans before the game as well. Well done to the Junglebhoys.
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How did the new smartcard/swipecards work yesterday?? Any complaints or did it all go swimmingly ?
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I've just read that Rainer Bonhof is interested in taking the Rangers job.
Maybe we should start a campaign?
Is there anyone else out there by the way?
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what else was in the press jinky
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Jinky,
Smart cards seemed to work well, I had no problem nor did anyone I spoke to.
Could this be the start of the Le Guen backtrack? Someone posted last night
That the Sunday Mason were reporting there may be a wee problem with
The Le Guen deal. (if there ever was a deal)
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Bazza67
He just said he was keen to be considered for the job as he knows Scottish football, likes the country so wanted to make sure they were aware of his interest.
I'll see if I can find a link.....
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Cheers richard81, I take it these will be introduced across the whole stadium by next season?
Re the Bonhof story, its a headline on Fans FC. Going by their usual stories then this has about as much chance of being credible as....em... something thats not very credible. Like the Hulk maybe?
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thanks Jinky, Im guessing the absence of any Le Guen stories means theres been a hitch at castle greyskull
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I would be sending Stan home for a rest test now. There may be too many clubs sniffing about.
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TO CARFINHARP
"C'mon man,The only reason that Celtic are in a commanding position is little to do with Strachan,although he is doing a good job with lots to prove,especially in the defence,and tactics department.
The over spending of Murray and co for the last 15 years (300million and counting) has put us where we are now."
DO YOU WORK FOR ANY NEWSPAPERS, BY ANY CHANCE????????
THATS LIKE SAYING, WE GOT TO SEVILLE COS THE REST WERE CRAP.
WE STOPPED RANKERS FROM ADDING TO 9 IN A ROW BECAUSE OUR NOW SCOTLAND MANAGER STATED HE WAS LEAVING.........
WE BEAT INTER BECAUSE THEY HAD AN OFF DAY................
DAVIE PROVAN SCORED AN OK FREE KICK IN 85 COS HAMISH WAS POOR............
DEAR OH DEAR OH DEAR MAYBE A SIGN OF THE NEW GENERATION OF CELTIC SUPPORTER, THE ONE WHO HAS GIVEN UP ON TRADITIONAL CELTIC WAYS, AND WHO IS NOW ACTING LIKE A SOUNESSITE, OR AS KEANO WOULD SAY, "THE PRAWN SARNIE BRIGADE"
I COULD GO ON ABOUT HOW WE WON GAMES COS THE OPPOSITION WERE CRAP........
BUT I PREFER TO GO ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT HOW WE WON GAMES COS WE WERE SPECIAL..................
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WAS IT NOT MENTIONED ABOUT OUR FOUNDATIONS, THAT ONCE WE WERE CREATED, THAT THE WE, THE NEW CELTIC GAVE MANY THOUSANDS, A NEW WAVE OF OPTIMISM........ OPTIMISM BEING THE KEY WORD.......
TO EVEN SUGGEST THAT WE ARE IN SUCH A STRONG POSITION,BUT IT IS DOWN TO SOMEBODY ELSES FAILINGS AND NOT OUR OWN GOOD DOING IS A SLUR ON THE PREVIOUS GENERATIONS OF CELTIC FANS.......... IN MY EYES ANYWAY........... AND IM CLASSED A PREVIOUS GENERATION
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Carfinharp, 9:12.
Sounds like your arguement is, we are second best to Rangers and it is only when they are in a mess that we are aloud to come to the fore.???????
Strange stance to take, c'mon man.
Hail,Hail
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I take it all back. I waltzed through the turnstiles (very early mind) with no problem.
Utterly astonished at the lack of drama I had with the smartcard.
As for the game...
I thought we played very well. Controlled the pace of the game, stopped aberdeen getting over the top or round the side of us. A little bit more composure in front of goal and we wouldve been up at thalf time. Second half they just couldnt live with us, Keano, Stan and Naka going at them whenever they get the ball. BBJ looked like he was sleepwalking. Wilson continues to impress, I cannot remember the last time I seen a celtic defender who could kick a ball with both feet.
Sorry Carfinharp but nonsense like "The only reason that Celtic are in a commanding position is little to do with Strachan" Is just
Keevinsesque lies.
We have a completely differnt team to the one which died on its feet a yard from the line last season, and we are
miles ahead in the league, if that the managers achievement then I dont know what is.
We are NOT 16 points clear at the top of the league because the huns are rubbish, we are 16 points clear because we have only lost 2 league games and it is now MARCH. The stats are undeniable (Artmedia and Clyde aside) he has been an outstanding success. We play a more attacking brand of football (which was the main moan for the last two seasons), and he has done all this on a much reduced budget, whilst driving down the wage bill.
Things can always be better - we could be in the Champs league last 32 having only won one game along the way for example ! :-))
but the cold facts are utterly undeniable.
I remember saying after Artmedia game that it would take GS a whole year and to get to the Champs League group stages to start to atone for that debacle, this is still the case, but he is sure going in the right direction.
Well done GS keep up the good work.
Bobby.
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Monthehoops & ian_in_budapest...Re Big Jock's record.
All competitions (excluding Glasgow Cup) :-
Played 719 Won 491 Drawn 117 Lost 111
25 Trophies, 26 Cup Final appearances.
Thank you Jock.
Someone posted earlier about the Liverpool fans producing a commemorative banner. If we were to do the same I can think of no better subject matter than the legacy left to us by Jock Stein.
Mind you, it would have to be one hell of a size of a banner!
Gordon
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Gordon,
thanks for clearing up the dodgy stats data I presented. When you work out the percentage of wins again though my original point is still valid.
Strachans record is now starting to speak for itself and he should be getting the credit he deserves.
One Gordon Strachan,
there's only one Gordon Strachan...
Hail, Hail.
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Noel90
I too can see the finishing line.
Straight ahead,Ship Ahoy!
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monthehoops...I couldn't agree more. Gordon is doing a great job.
Whilst I respect every supporter's right to their opinion I totally disagree with the argument that
says that we are only where we are because Rangers are not good. Only 2 losses in the League so far is a great achievement given where we were in July.
Like others have posted, I am also very disappointed at the sight of thousands streaming out of the ground with 10 minutes to go.
Anyway, the title is now in sight.
Gordon.
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I had the unfortunate experience of being in the North Stand upper Block 407 , bb , At the very top. Not only was it cold but its a vile area to watch a football match in. I had typed a piece up on my experience but have since deleted it because it serves no purpose to glorify the scum.
Good game I thought. Wilson and Maloney linked up well and I thought the introduction of Naka meant the we would have more composed pocession of the ball. Credit must go to WGS on his tactical switches. He is doing a smashing job and long may it continue.
Back to the Jock Stein Lower next week.
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It was a pleasant surprise to see so many Japanese fans at the game yesterday - most of them ladies ;-)
Lots of folk giving up their seats so they could watch the match together too. They certainly seemed to enjoy the experience and stayed for the entire duration of the game!
Well done the Hoops yesterday, most of the main points have been covered, I'll just add that Mark Wilson looks as if he could become a real bargain in years to come.
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Enjoyed the game yesterday,just thawed out my fingers now,so i caan type. I'll be honest i didn't realise how good a player Roy Keane is. I seen him on television playing for Eire and Man U, ieven seen him in the flesh at Ryan Giggs testemonial(where he was second best to Lambert:)). But i never fully appreciated his talents until now.
Energy,skill,vision,aggression. He's the perfect midfield player. He will be a real fulcrum in us getting into stage 2 of the European Cup.
big liam im in north stand upper 408,what was the problem?
Carfinharp: relax it's ok to enjoy the Pol Pot XI getting a Joe Calazaghesque doing. Come on deep breath dude.
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Anybody got a link to the goals from yesterday?
/Bishop B
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Sorry to sound all doom n gloom after yesterday's match, however, I wish to comment about the atmosphere at CP, especially yesterday.
Again, another game has gone by and again, the atmosphere was shocking. I sit in Jock Stein Lower and I was in the company of some family from Sligo and they commented on it. I looked around on more than one occasion and could see some people trying to get the tempo raised but with no joy. With the exceptions of European nights, I cannot remember the last time we raised the roof at Celtic Park.
I cannot believe a stadium of our size can sound so pathetic.
What happened to the singing section? What happened to our support?
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Very pleased with the result and eventually, the performance. I thought that Petrov was excellent but Roy Keane was imperious!
However, I was very disappointed with the mass exodus after 80 minutes.
I understand that some people need to leave for their own personal reasons from time to time but it made for a very surreal last 10 minutes and I was very pleased that the 80 minute people missed the best goal (in my opinion).
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DiscyBhoy
The exodus at 80 minutes yesterday was an embarrassment. I can accept that some people have legitimate reasons for leaving early but not the number that walked out on their team yesterday.
I hope as they left they took one last look at the Aberdeen fans and saw what supporting your team actually means. Again the Dons' fans were a credit to their club with their support, the red and white flag display and the singing. By far the best away fans we get at Celtic Park in the SPL.
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Gordon, thanks for the Jock Stein stats. What an awesome record the man had, he remains the benchmark for any Celtic manager (although Willie Maley was no slouch either).
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was just logging in to complain about the self professed GFITW and see been beaten to it.
Terrific performance by the players, convincingly beating a team who have beaten us a number of times at home in recent years. Could have been 4 up at half time, couldnt get things going start of second half (aided and abetted by the merchants of doom in the crowd) made the change and strolled to victory, the sign of a good team. However the supporters are a disgrace. Teams come out at start of game to no atmnosphere, nobody even joins in the "youll never walk alone" then we sit, as boruc rightly says, at the theatre and moan and grumble at every slight error and loose pass, and cry out in hysteria at every pass that god forbid isnt forward. The moans and grumble continue til we score, then they moan we need 2. The 2nd goes in and they all get up and hurry out early. Absolute disgrace, these fans disgust me. I dont buy the other commitments crap as they dont leave at old firm game and european games (some astonishingly do granted), do these commitments not happen at those games? I have a theory, I blame the bus park. Lots of folk used to go on bus and got home decent hour so could have a few beers in pub b4 heading home to the wife. Now with the bus park sit in the bus park for an hour b4 leaving so cuts into drinking time with mates. Therefore they take car to fully enjoy pub time however CHOOSE to leave early to beat traffic and get a few extra swallies in, nothing to do with other commitments. Watching football at parkhead is enjoyable these days, being part of the crowd isnt, think thats why the players and most supporters prefer away games.
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heraldo - email me about the animated pics. My email's everywhere : on my profile, add "dot com" to my username or have a look (hint hint hint) at the 'team members' on my charity site
shameless csc
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Here are the goals from yesterday's game
Celtic V Aberdeen
pablophanque
No.1 This day in History
Billie Jean - Michael Jackson. 1983
Ps. Check out Stan's little skip before he shoots........... Class.
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Liam, I sit in 407 in the NUpper. Usually it's a fine place to get a panoramic view of the game (although bitterly cauld on occasion), and most of the lads around me are good fhans- passionate without being hysterical, knowledgeable without being smart-arses, and funny.
But yesterday sitting in front of me were two lads who defined the fine old Glaswegian description "jakey b*st*r*s".
For the entire game they shouted sectarian abuse at the (admirable) Dons fans and when one guy told them to cut it out they tried to lamp him. All within full view of the stewards and absolutely nothing was done about it.
Just wondered if these balloons were the subject of your unpublished rant?
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martinobhoy,
I remember we used to have a real go at the TFOD fans for this during the bad old days yet, we are well down the path of regaining the league title but the crowd are disappearing after 80 minutes!!
Makes you wonder....
Discybhoy
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Heraldo, I am of the view that Rangers do not suffer the scrutiny that Celtic do. This, I believe benefits them. If I see an opportunity to turn the spotlight on something the old media will not, I do so.
It also despair at some of the treatment thrown to Celtic players from the crowd at CP. We now do what we used to laugh at Rangers for doing – and the rest of Scottish football think we cannot handle being on the losing side.
Supercelt, doing well thanks, hope you are also in top form. The place has been quiet without you.
Bobby Russell, comment deleted for multiple language violations.
Big Liam, I am just along the row bb in 405. It only takes a couple of people to poison the ears of hundreds.
As ItalBhoy said, the couple in front of me seem to want to denigrate the fans from the other team. The term ‘jakey’ never had a clearer definition.
Middle aged Scotish drunks sining about Irish politics interspersed with lots of religious hate references - and they always leave with 20 minutes to go.
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carfin harp 9.26
The reason Keane laid into McManus, is because McManus should have went to the Aberdeen player, with the ball. Keane was covering the guy running through the middle.
McManus' indecision, almost cost us a goal,(Although Bobo didn't help matters). IMVHO, Keane was right to have a go. However, McManus gave as good as he got, and when the ball went back to the Aberdeen goal, they both had calmed down, but they continued their dialogue.
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maybe the reason for the mass exodus at CP with 10 minutes to go, may have something to do with transport.
When you think about it, the facilities in and around CP are terrible, with the closest railway station about a mile a way, even those trains are inconsistent. Supporters have to walk through Brigtun and other parts.
The bus park is a nightmare coz its closed in and after the game is finished London Road is a nightmare.
Did I hear that there was talk at the Scottish Executive with regards to this? Just look at Kinning Park Dignity FC, they have everything around their piggery.
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Carfinharp,
I get the feeling that something different has been going on a C67 for the last few broadcasts.
Paul referred to a "wee cheat" whatever that means.
I feel Paul will know.
but regardless the last few weeks have been excellent.
Long may it continue.
Kano
Paul,that is the biggest generalisation I have seen coming from yourself.
I myself have seen a far bigger cross section of the support leaving early.
Don't confuse what happens round about your seat,or your personal opinions on what should be allowed to sung with what happens in the rest of the stadium.
I have seen many an "upwardly mobile" person of no particualar gender leaving early with his or her perfectly attired kids.
Please,enough of that garbage.
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Plato Carfin
Boruc also tore into McManus as well but he gave back as good as he got at the beginning of the exchange.
I had a good view of the situation developing and I didn't notice Keane covering the guy in the middle and neither I imagine did McManus.
I'll look closer next time and give him a shout
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whitedog
When you watch again, you will see that Keane cuts out the ball to the guy he was covering.
I guess Mick will not be the last Celtic player to feel the sharp end of Keanos' tongue!
However, it should be remembered, that Keane will take a verbal lashing if he mucks up.
It also shows his committment to the Celtic cause, and that it is done with no personal malice. It is for the overall good of the team.
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Fritz,
the facilities are exactly the same ten minutes later
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Kano, need to take your “garbage” comment on.
I referred to “the couple in front of me” who leave with 20 minutes to go, drunk having shouted sectarian abuse all afternoon.
What on earth did I say to deserve the “garbage” comment?
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Paul,quick read of your comment has seen me take it out of context.
Didn't link the second last paragraph with the last.
Thought it was seperate statement.
Fair enough if you are referring to 2 people.
Have re read and fair enough.
Although I don't see any problem with giving the other mob a bit of stick. In between support for your own team of course.
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Livi 1 Hearts 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Livi equalise
60 mins
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Paul
You cant sit too far from me. Also 405, but the row in front AA 11.
Daily reader of the blog, if not a daily poster.
Seat number?? Would like to nip along at half time one day and introduce myself. Would like to thank you personally for your hard work on this site, now an integral part of my life.
Cant agree with other poster that it is a bad part of the stadium to view a game. I love the high view, often feel that it is a perfect area to analyse the game tactically. However share the concern of the knee jerkers that occupy parts of 405. Have had stand up arguements with them at times.
God Bless you Paul
greekster67
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mgm,agree with everything that you say up intil the bus park theory.
Traffic is the same for everybody.
Why not leave at half time,or after 15 minutes.Surely then the "traffic" argument would hold more water.
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Re traffic problems at CP.
Leaving after the match has finished I get home at 6:50 normally. I left the Dundee Utd game 10 mins early as I had work to go to and got home at 6:15, that 10 mins saved me 35 mins in time. It does help leaving early.
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slimlinebbj
A wee tip...I find if you park 10 minutes walk further away you usually save half an hour...
Go on LIVI!!!! 2-2
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Livi, 2-2. Come on ye Lions.
pablophanque
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cheers Rumoid
I will try that next home game. Don't have to work many Sat nights so not usually a problem.
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Don't want to start a riot people,but at this moment in time,although it pains me greatly to say it,I would say, C'mon the Hertz.
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Couple of random thoughts before breakfast and Pineapple
1. Keano attempting to kick the ball out of the Aberdeen keeper’s hands. It should have been a straight RED with a 50 yrs suspension - in fact penal solitude would have been too good for the impish irksome Irish irritant (some alliteration for Kojo). No seriously my real thought was that it was fantastic to see a lighter playful side of Roy, made me think he is having fun playing for the Hoops.
2. PLG shocker - no suitable French School for the kids!!!!!! The transmogrification of the story begins as the skin-walkers create the plausibility facade. We had him (honest) on the footballing level, he was so excited and honoured to lead one of the True European Footballing Aristocrats, but we were undone by such and obscure and previously unuttered requirement. Bad, bad luck.........fortunately Chairman Dave (who never sleeps and only Eats and Drinks Rangers and a little Lamb and Rouge) was talking to Billy Davis - so we are covered. Ok kids - lights out time for shadow play.
3. Paul67 something in your last post regarding the demographics and associated traits of the Celtic population. I have often wondered if there is a correlation between the sectarian singing chants etc., and the level of political violence in Ireland? Were I am going is I think there is. I remember being in the Jungle when Sands was on Hunger strike etc. it was very passionate. They were turbulent times miners strike, poll tax , The Blessed Margaret in power (as a my Law lecturer used to call her to get a response from me - and him the son of an Ayrshire miner. I would remind him of how proud his parents must be)
My hypothesis is two fold with is both good and bad in its conclusions. One. With the level of political violence much, much diminished many of the up and coming youngsters will not have been exposed to it, it will be less topical and finally less relevant. I would conclude that we (Celtic) will be come less and less sectarian as we move forward. Rangers on the other hand carry a torch for the Covenanters and those suspicious of Roman dominion in a secular state. I think historically understandable when Europe was divided along religious lines in the 17th century and Kings fought wars of conquest under the religious banner. Is Rome still a treat today? Ranger’s political ideology and fears are older and therefore deeper - although I would argue that is should logically pass in time….but it is not, why not? Another day.
My second supporting argument is a comment on the Post Thatcher generation. I know that one generation generally finds the following less like themselves so therefore not as good in their eyes. My argument here is that Gen Y seems to be apolitical, another catalyst for sectarian signing was in my opinion was political dissent during the 80’s. Two figures up to a protestant establishment that aligned themselves to the Conservatives and Unionists - the party of the Blessed M. Again this has diminished and by adopting the American model of dumbing it down to be a about personality and appearance rather than policy and policy consequence. So on two fronts believe we will move away from venerating or participating (vocally) rebelliousness which manifested itself in sectarian hues.
As I said good and bad. Good we will create light between us and Rangers in terms of progressive views. The Old Firm will become singular the Old Infirm. The bad. Single issue politics and political discussion reduced to the lowest common denominator of popularity contests based on the personality cult. Ask yourselves why. Did we ask for that? Then why did it change?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Paul
Anything further to add on my reposte about the romans?
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Official attendance at Livi v Hearts: 5058. And this is the team who want to fill Murrayfield for their semi final...
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3-2 Hertz,
reason I would prefer them to win at this time is,I believe,the league is ours.
We will NOT lose it from here.
I do NOT want Rangers to qualify,under any circumstances,for the Champions League next year.
Don't really care who does apart from ourselves,as long as it is not them.
They are down at the moment and that is where they must be kept.
Kano
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We should all be Hibs and Hearts followers for the rest of the season. Yesterday's second half performance showed beyond doubt that we WILL be champions.
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Agreed Kano
Keep them down!!!!!
We can take care of hearts ourselves.
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Looking at the goals
from yesterday, at approx 1min 27 through these highlights you get a shot of the crowd, about 10 seconds after maloney scores the 2nd, which effectively finished the game. The guys shown barely look interested at all. Why not? I was jumping about like a madman (partly as I was trying to warm up!). Can almost understand not joining in singing etc, but when a goal is scored, surely every supporter should be cheering? Especially when it is such an important goal.
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mac,
I think that was one of our boys doing an update on his blackberry.
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Thanks TommyTwistsTommyTurns -
I'll give Heidleberg a try - I seem to remember going past an Irish Bar there the other week.
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i saw a bit of the spurs game
Keane scored a wonder goal
commentator said he s got a 4 year deal
not much hope of us signing him now
anybody confirm this ??
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My thoughts on the terrible atmosphere at CP.
Firstly my frame of reference is the 60's and 70's. Thats when I attended the home games. At that time it was mostly my father's generation who made the great jungle the icon it was. My generation stacked the Celtic end. The banners were awesome (Remember 'Kings Of Europe'?), the enthusiasm unmatched, yes the long haired Beatles generation were hard to beat.We arrived early sang our hearts out and never left before the game was done. So what's changed?
Lots actually. In those days our disposable income was on a different scale from today. We had few other options for entertainment and to channel our interests. Standing together was also a factor.
Nowadays a large section of society is one of 'I need instant gratification'. People are global travellers, people have more money, they want to cram more into their lives. Instead of going to a Celtic game as the only important thing you did that Saturday many years ago, it may be the 3rd or 4th significant thing you can do/cram in on a Saturday.
So times have changed, people have changed, expectations and needs have changed, the stadium has changed, the game has changed, the business has changed, the media has changed..the only thing that hasn't changed is the feeling most Celtic supporters have for this institution.
It used to be that the North American lifestyle was significantly higher than Scotland (in terms of disposable income, access to travel, multiple choices of entertainment, etc). That gap is much closer these days however a parallel can be drawn with the CP atmosphere and the atmosphere at professional sports events in N.A. All seated stadia have been the norm here for a very long time , people have many choices of sports and entertainment, the supporters are quite loyal, leaving early happens quite a bit. There is one difference: clubs have learned in that environment that they have a bigger role to play in getting the fans fired up. If they do nothing they get a current CP type of atmosphere. The cheerleaders, bands, mascots, buglers,music is all geared to a program of 'atmosphere management'.
I believe our club has not yet grasped that they need to play a bigger role in this aspect of the game. If you just leave it to the fans in the modern day picture I have painted, you get what you get.
My advice ty Celtic,the backroom guys need to spend some time across the pond and learn from the sports here how to 'influence' the fans participation in the game. Do nothing more than what's being done today and the club, our team and the business will suffer.
None of this absolves the fans from their duty as a Celtic supporter. Some of them need a good kick in the backside and a wake up call. Start putting something more back into this institution.Its not just the money at the gate that counts. We are not just 'any' club. This the mighty Glasgow Celtic. It deserves more from some of you.
To the diehards thank you one and all. Please continue to play your part to vocalise your support for the team, to set the standard of expectation for the others who's standards have slipped.
hail,hail
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Mac
from yesterday, at approx 1min 27 to view the goals. How long tyo load? I have given it 5 mins now. Any idea?
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San Fran-GG posted the goals on here about 8 o;clock last night.
Windows Media Player as opposed to putfile-instantaneous.
noel.
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CanajunBhoy
Not to start a fight here BUT I am not a big fan of the event driven atmosphere, big screen GOAL!!!, Defense, defense, defense etc. I have attended most types of sports in the US. I find the 'atmosphere management' cynical and hollow - I always found it a turn off. I would often wax re: the spontaneous passionate support found at soccer matches. I think the solution would be two fold. One, create a significant standing section. Look at all the countries with strong atmospheres I think you will find large standing areas. I believe that the atmospheric void did not just coincidently arrive with all seater stadia.
My second is a little contentious. I would propose selling alcohol at the games. I say roll out the barrel.
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Noel90 I wanted to check out the sad sacks rustling their sweetie papers as we scored the second goal.
You finished your roast beef and Yorkshire pud?
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superdupercelt
Great to hear from you again, my good friend!!
Where huv ye been?!! You been awfy quiet these last few weeks.
You came, you blogged, then you f@@ked off again!!
Please come back. I miss your irreverent(?) nonsense!!
Can you tell me please; How aul, is that king of the aul haunds, noel?
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To follow on from Canajunbhoy and Sanfrantic's suggestions.
TAILGATING
On Celtic's recent NA tours we were able to indulge in some tailgating in Hartford and Philly. Burgers, hot dogs, a friendly kick about and some liquid refreshment in the car parks certainly adds to the atmosphere and encourages fans to arrive early and continue the party after the game.
Sadly the Scottish weather does not lend itself to open air parties and BBQs, and CP lacks car parking facilities. However, if it can be done in Philly, New York, Boston and Chicago in November December why not try it at CP?
Some hot food, a few beers, communal singing before the game and the atmosphere would be primed for the kick off.
If only.
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Carfinharp earlier and in keeping with Monty Python.
"Aways look on the bright side of life."
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CanajunBhoy
As a follow up. I would discount the standing section to make it financially attainable to anyone perhaps even a further discount if you live within a mile radius of the ground. Soccer is a game for the working class. Celtic would loose some revenue but I think it would be offset long-term by attracting higher tiered (in pricing terms not personal)to attend more games or even allow for a price increase in that segment. I would rather pay say 450 per season to be at games with a good atmosphere weekly, rather than 425 and no atmosphere.
The figures were made up just to emphasize the a physiological pricing strategy. For a little more cash you get a lot fun/enjoyment.
Think of it as a subsidy if you like.
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My dear friend, CanajunBhoy,
First things first.....
Merci Beaucoup....for...... you know!
In your very insightful submission, vis a vis, the Early Leaving Syndrome that is beginning to reach epidemic proportions, at Parkhead......
You, pal... have all of the Reasons, packed and wrapped... that are Germane to the aforesaid,Syndrome.
There is no need for me to enlarge on your remarks on the subject....
But if I may add,a little something... O.K.?
Any Sunday, when I am fortunate to have the time to attend an L.A. Dodger Game...... the exact same SYNDROME is DE RIGUEUR at Chavez Ravine.
Even in the face of a Great DODGER COME-BACK in the Latter TWO INNINGS.... The attending crowd.....which is usually a Full House, of 45-50 Thousand....
Proceeds to melt and whither away..... Suddenly the myriad of empty seats becomes very apparent.
I figure, in the region of 20 Thousand fans have taken the opportunity for an Early Start to the Long and CONGESTED FREEWAY TREK Home........
No one, in the remaining crowd, bats an eye at this NORMAL and EXPECTED PROCEDURE, that ALWAYS TAKES PLACE during the last innings of a DODGER GAME.
It is accepted as part and parcel of attending the game.
Some people, HAVE FAR TO DRIVE...Under extremely trying and heavily congested , traffic conditions.
My point.......
Is it not possible, in view of the good CanajunBhoy's assertion that the Average Celtic Fan, NOWADAYS..... Is more AUTOMOBILE ORIENTED......and is therefore very subjected to the RISE AND EXPANSION of the TERRORS of TEDIOUS AND TIRESOME TRAFFIC Travel, far more than his ancestors were?
I am shooting somewhat from the Hip in this Proposal..... not being TOO FAMILIAR with the GROWTH FACTOR, in THE PREPONDERANCE of PERSONAL VEHICULAR TRAVEL per Celtic Fan.....
My guesstimate........It is probably close to 30 per centum...
Am I in the BALLPARK, with that presumption?
If what I have asserted is close to being a growing factor in the EARLY LEAVING SYNDROME......
Then .....WHO CAN BLAME 'Em ...... for Making an Early Start to the DRIVING NIGHTMARE to come.
Let's 'ave , ye .... Gentlemen
Input, input...Please.
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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San Fran-
you been looking in my window ....?
noel.
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Kojo
I already gave my 2 cents. You may have been typing when I was posting. I did not consider the Car issue however I would still contend most people get there by bus either supporters bus or public transit. To a certain I would forgive leaving early. I did it myself even in the Jungle days as did many others. Anyway the issue to me is the stale atmosphere for the preceding 80 mins. Leave when your job is done, I am ok with that. Job and finish.
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Kojo another thought on the car factor. I would think even more people drive to away games. These games are reported to have a better atmosphere with people staying till the end.
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Noel90 I would have to be Superman. I would need x-ray vision to see through the plywood.
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kojo
As my brother and I both live in or close to Edinburgh we take turns driving through to the games and we've both never seen the need to leave early even though it can take us up to an hour from the final whistle to get back to the car, along the London Road and on to the M8.
Maybe it's just my mentality of getting what I paid for but I want to see 90 minutes of football. Even if the game is won there's still a chance you will see a goal of beauty like Magic's yesterday.
Plus if you are enjoying something why finish it early? If you were to drive to a cinema to see your favourite movie you wouldn't leave early because you know how it ends. And if you are enjoying a pint of Guinness in a bar you dont leave the last mouthful in the glass because you know how it is going to taste.
As I said earlier there will always be legitimate reasons for people leaving early but the scale of yesterday's exodus with 10 minutes to go was embarrassing to see.
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My dear friend, San_Fran_Tic,
Well I guess you well and truly shot down my suggestion for the early departure as being an important factor, after all.
Your comment that the LACK of ATMOSPHERE, DURING the GAME..... is What is CRYING OUT FOR A SOLUTION.........
As you say.......and I heartily agree........ The SALE OF BEER in the Stadium may Lighten the Party Spirit, somewhat...
Other than the above......I am totally bereft of a practical solution.....
Live with it Guys.......Just Live wit' it!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Greekster67, many thanks for your kind words. I am seat no. 1, right in the middle of the row and one along from a rear pillar. Look forward to meeting you.
I see a few not wanting Hearts to win today. You bet I cheered when their third went in.
SanFran Tic, agree the population is much less politicised than in the 1980’s.
Rumoid, sorry I missed your reposte, will look up when I have more time later.
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Kojo et al
I know we have had the sit down Im watching the game discussion here before. How long before someone says "Shhhh I'm trying to watch the game here"?
The answers as mentioned last night and a few others:
1-Beer on tap
2-Relocate supporters clubs to be near one another
3-The ticket office should retain as many double seats as possible
3-Support the Jungle bhoys...both the board and fans alike (including sites like this)
4-replace the stadium DJ-- or someone tell him that that (a twoser) Zurawski song will never take on!!
5-At no point should aformentioned DJ cue up songs for corners- its embarrassing
6- Aformentioned DJ should not play Walk on at every game...
7- The PLC should NEVER ban fans from hanging banners over celtic adverts
Any more suggestions?
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My dear friend, MartinoBhoy,
Edinburgh? Hmmmmm.
I would imagine you and your companions face a very vexing and desultory drive....Both Ways!
It says a whooooooollllllelotttta, about your love and dedication to the Celtic Cause.
But, I am only teasing, and rather clumsily.
I have a confession to make.....just between you and I.....
I NEVER DID PARTAKE in the Jollifying Experience of the storied.......JUNGLE!
So I am blissfully unaware of the LOSS of that Fondly Remembered Institution........
Maybe the resuscitation of the now Sombre Parkhead GAME ATMOSPHERE, lies in the REMOVAL of the Seating, in at least ONE AREA of the PRESENT STANDS.
Is that practical? Is it even Possible..... owing to the Present CROWD SAFETY LAWS?
Mebbe that is the Way to go?
On the other hand.......
Is it so important to your personal enjoyment of the Match, whether the Crowd Rocks or No?
In my day...... I was extremely happy if Celtic managed a Win...... the reaction o' my surrounding compatriots in Celtic, had NO BEARING IN MY Glee and SATISFACTION....with the usual caveats, of course.
As my more Astute Compadres are wont to remark......
God made the world such a wonderful place to live and enjoy...then he went and spoiled it for EVERYBODY by adding... PEOPLE!
Go Figure!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Bhoys
I have NEVER left a Celtic match when the game has been in the balance.
I left the Falkirk(midweek) match ,when we were 2-nil up and with ten mins left on the clock.
We just about drew 2-2 in the end.
I would have felt as though i let the side down if we had dropped points .
The thing was that staying the extra 10 mins ,puts 45 to 60 mins,on top of 1hr 45 minute return journey.
I have a baby sitter watching my daughter and it is unfair on both to collect my drowsy daughter at 1 am instead of 12 pm.
That extra 10 mins makes all the difference to me.
There will be many like me who have good reason to leave early.
Likewise, there will be those who lack the patience to sit in an hours traffic.
If the game is exciting enough they will stay.
However each and every punter HAS the right to enter and leave when they want too.
You see they pay there money and they have the right to come and go as they please.
So please don't take the moral high ground because you stay until the end.
Thats your choice.
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San Fran 5.11
I whole- heartedly agree that the sale of alchohol at matches should be introduced.
It also makes good business sense .
I for one would rather my pound went into Celtics coffers rather the surrounding publicans.
Fans who want to consume alcohol will consume it .
Whether it is served inside the London Road Tavern or inside Celtic Park is academic.
Alchohol should be allowed to be consumed in the food courts but not in your seats.
Celtic should build more supporters lounges for the purpose and bodies such as the CSA could have their own lounge for members.
The added revenue would be incredible.
Just think 11am opening to say 7pm closing.
Also this would mean that traffic would arrive and disperse over longer period of time.
Cutting down on rush hour traffic before and after the match.
You know it makes sense.
Brian Wilson please put this idea forward to the Scottish parliament.
Infact i'm sure i could get elected on this motion.
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My dear friend, Rumoid,
First things.....well...Foist!
Congrats, on the TWOSER...... not an easy application of syntax.....
Bully fer ye!!
A big FAT .......ONE HUNDRED PER CENTUM, on your very cogent suggestions....
Wish I had thought of the "No Disallowance on Banner HANGING"
Banners are A MUST...... WHAT WOULD WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR have been WITHOUT HIS BORDEAUX TAPESTRY??
Funny thing, though.....
I watch the Celtic Home Games on Chan67...... I have Never Heard Anything that resembles Musica, emanating from the Celtic TANNOY SYSTEM...... Why is that?
And the Verbal announcements....sound like the Train Schedule times, in Grand Central Station.......Muffled Mumbles of INCOMPREHENSION......
I am sorry, but I am a loss to add ANYTHING to your well though-out proposals, in the attempt at ATMOSPHERIC ACCENTUATION, during CELTIC HOME GAMES.
It seems we are Doomed to accept the way things are.
C'est la vie.....
As Scarlet was heard to say...... over and over....
"I'LL THINK ABOUT IT.....TOMORROW!"
And, as you well know,guys.....and gals...
TOMORROW >........ NEVER COMES!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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kojo / rumoid
I think there is a bit of a misconception that 60,000 people have to be singing for 90 minutes for there to be a great atmosphere.
At the San Siro one tier behind the goals is reserved for the Inter or Milan supporters' clubs and this is what makes the atmosphere. Generally there is not a lot of singing going on in the rest of the ground.
Therefore I'd like to see rumoid's number 2 suggestion implemented with the upper tier of the Jock Stein Stand being exclusively reserved for supporters' clubs.
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Kojo et al,
As I posted a few threads ago, I think that we definitely view the past through rose coloured spectacles. Supporters have always left games early, although perhaps it has got worse in recent years. One of the big problems with all seater stadia is that gaps become very, very visible as supporters drift away - plus you have the inconvenience of some fat, 8 foot giant struggling to get past while you stay in your seat.
Terracings hid a multitude of sins - supporters leaving early being only one of them if you catch my drift.
On the singing side, I have no doubt that a large terracing area would bring a big improvement - although I would not want to go back to the days of fans 'relieving themselves'in situ.
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Kojo, selling beer at the football is an interesting point. It happens at the moment, of course in the expensive seats, and could only be extended in association with food and a whole lot of experienced stewarding.
Perhaps mid-priced season books (or equivalent) with access to licensed restaurants on a new boulevard outside Celtic Park would be the way.
Rumoid, what if an advertiser insists on the removal of banners (as I would if I was pumping in hundreds of thousands each year), would you tell them to keep their money and sell only to less fussy advertisers paying less money?
A worthy moral stance, maybe we could sell Petrov to make up the shortfall?
I would rather keep the fussy advertisers.
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My dear friend Martinobhoy,
Now ye're Cooking Wit' Gas...o...line!!
When is perplexity ......... STEAL ANOTHER'S IDEA!!!!!!
This tried an TRUE METHOD...ALWAYS WOIKS FOR ME!
Great suggestion, and I am not being Patronizing.......
Rumoid's improvements in Crowd Fervor ,as I have already admitted, are very Sound.
Your Pin Pointing of... the Exact LOCATION... in the Placement of the Celtic BRAKE CLUBS is a winner.......
After all....... it WOIKS FER MILANO..... so Why not PARADISE???.....
I really think we have found a very DOABLE DO!
Mebbe if we keep going...... we may strike the Big One.
Good, guys...... You are batting a thousand on this one........ I declare!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Rumiod
I love sugestion no. 2. relocating supporters into blocks with their buddies is a fantastic idea. Even if I had to travel to CPon my own I did so in the confidence that I could find all the local boys either under no.10 in the Rangers End (if we were not playing Rangers.) We could also find another group in the Jungle the ‘Big Boys’. It was so much better being in an enlarged group. The criac, slaggings, banter and common support -if someone started signing 20-30 people joined in (local pride) to get it going then it infects 60, then 600 then 5,000 etc. Remember that? By the time the whole end was singing your song, you were fatigued and ecstatic.
Practically, how could this be done. Could we sell blocks to supporters clubs? Thing is individuals buy season tickets not clubs. We could change that for certain sections. Make supporters clubs resellers. Start by polling the fans….see if they would approve of a re-allotment of seats for optimal atmosphere. Next if you are affiliated to a club then indicates this so you can be proximitized (new word) to your fellow club members.
Paul67 I think this would be far more potent solution than the singing section, and cheaper than converting sections to standing. Still like standing, drinking and now the proxitizing of fellow club members. Don’t know if this would intrest anyone at CP. I would hope so. They should be very aware of the issue and be prepared to do what is feasible to create an optimal viewing environment. I believe Rumiod has a revolutionary thought here. Maybe it has been mentioned before. If so I have not seen it – that explains my enthusiasm for this idea.
Rumiod hats off for some abstract thought.
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Paul
I predicted this retort thats why I mentioned "celtic advertising" ie fans were stopped from hanging a banner (I think at a rangers game) as it covered a www.celticfc.net advert..
If I had my way other advertisers would have to bear this in mind as well but I know Money is too important....Just had a thought- maybe Nike pay people to get off their ads early with ten minutes to go...
PS I didnt hear any advertisers complaining about all the banners at estadio olympico...
Hampton Tim
Maybe we should ask aformentioned 8ft fat bloke at the end of each row...
Martinobhoy
The one time I was at the san siro there was only one end singing ;-)
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Paul67 - No need to apologise. I left the game with 30 seconds to go and just assumed I had missed a goal for the opposition (or two in the case of the Dundee Utd game!)
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kojo
I'm just about to watch the Roma v Inter game so I'll see if there are any other ideas I can steal!
rumoid
I assume the game you were at was the Milan v Celtic Champions League game. To be fair to the Milan fans they were probably gobsmacked. Most likely they had never seen away fans like that before.
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Rumiod
You have made me ponder still further. All seated stadia is a problem not wholly from the standpoint of putting patrons in the seated position. This was my original thought – thanks for the shake up
The issue is the necessary structure required to seating assignments byproduct is that it isolate groups to small pockets. Thousands of small islands - Archipelagos of passion. Consolidation of these is the answer.
Rumiod. I really think you cracked it. Also if Milan have employed this and it works then it reinforces its credibility. This does not detract from your idea. After all the wheel was invented at different times across the world. It did not take away from the brilliance of the actual occurrence.
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My seat in area 445 is in the back row and you can imagine my surprise when I discovered that the Jungle Bhoys singing section has moved in right beside me.
'erza flag mate, gonnae wave it when the team cumz oot' says my new friend.
'Suffering God' thinks I.
However after the game I had come around. These guys are TRYING to cheer the team on and enhance the Celtic experience. Great stuff, especially when the 3 goals went in right in front of us.
More power to lads and I hope that together we will cheer the Celts on to another title.
There was a time when Celtic fans joined in the singing rather than looking on in bewilderment.
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Sir Paul,
I am totally in the dark, regarding the Miasma of Rulings, concerning the Selling of Alcoholic Beverages in SCOTLAND'S SOCCER STADIA.
Being somewhat familiar of the WANING OF THE WEE FREES input.. into The DISRUPTION and OUTLAWING OF PLEASURE.......(in GENERAL..... As long as it GIVES PLEASURE......BAN IT!)
In the PRESENT TIME...It is just possible that the Public Selling of BEER by the Celtic club, may NOW BE ALLOWED!
Has this enterprising proposal ever surfaced, before?
Is there anyway that we could verify if the NAKED SELLING of BEER, without the addition of Food, is LEGAL..?
By Naked of course ....I am not referring to the Disrobement of the Bar Maids......although, that does introduce a very interesting lean to the proposal....
Let's try to discover if the selling of the DEBBIL'S BREW strictly SOLO, Is possible.......
Maybe one of your contributers has the knowledge.
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Paul - Didn't see YOUR answers to the 70's questionnaire on Friday night !
As regards yesterday it's the QUALITY of the goals that pleased me most.
The first goal was a cracker, all about awareness from Zurawski and the technique finish from Petrov.
For the second, no one has given Telfer credit for the pass to Keane's great run and cross.
The third one was sublime. Keane and Petrov scything through the centre and an unselfhish lay off to Zurawski.
Credit musy also go to WGS. The substitution and playing of Petrov up front was inspirational. But here lies the dilemma. We now have 12 players who WGS wants to pick and only 11 spaces. Keane and Shunske have been left out but this is not a long term option. So who will be the odd one out at Easter Road ?
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Kojo-
Scottish Criminal Justice Act (1980) brought after the "riot cup final" of the same year forbids the selling or consumption of alcohol in or around areas where football is being played-
unless you have loads of cash........
Rumoud-"maybe Nike pay people to get off their ads early with ten minutes to go..."-genius.
San Fran.........................
you outside my house right now....?
noel.
noel.
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SanFran_Tic
Believe me it definitely works at the San Siro.
Of course the other cultural difference in Italy is that nobody really pays attention to the allocated seat on their ticket. Fans arriving together simply sit (or stand) together.
The allocated area for supporters' clubs is also directly opposite the away fans and this definitely helps generate the atmosphere.
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Martinobhoy,
Have to take issue with you with regards to relocating all supporters clubs to the upper tier of the Jock Stein stand.
I sit here and travel to the games myself. Why should I be relocated for others?
Understand the concept but as a matter of interest, where is your seat located?
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St Anthony,
I also sit in the back row of 445.
Are you my brother in law?
Or are you one of the two guys who are always 15 mins late?
I also thought the Jungle bhoys were good yesterday. However I dont know how far the singing carried having read all the posts on lack of atmosphere. I know that I could,t hear them when they wre in the LL stand.
If any Jungle Bhoys are reading this I would like to say good work lads. I especially liked the "we can see you sneeking out" chant with 10 minutes to go, although a few lads started getting personal with individuals. I would knock that on the head before a wee incident develops. Apart from that it was the best fun at a home game for many a day.
PS Ricky's perm IS unacceptable;))
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My dear friend, Hampton Tim,
As you averred, in days of the Past ......
The Nature of the Terracing Throng...Did Disguise......the Inevitable Disappearance of a portion of the Spectators, making their absence hard to discern.
Excellent point.....
Therefore, there is a whole lot of truth in your assertion, that Early Departures, were always a Phenomenon that was part and parcel of the Spectating Public's Behavior.
As far as I am concerned.......I have banished the Annoyance of Early Leavers to the DUSTBIN which carries the LABEL.....
Fuuuuuugettttttabooouuuit!
Live wit' it! There is NO SALVE OR SOLUTION that CAN BE APPLIED!
My thoughts are now directed toward finding a viable UPLIFT, from the Present Sober Solemnity of Mood,Presently exhibited, by the Celtic Supporters, at Home Games.
So far there have been at least 3 fine solutions offered on that problem...
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Just received this photo of The Aul' Hauns CSC going to buy their NTVs on their way to a league match played just after the war-
-The Boer War............
Yes -that IS Plato with the top hat on.........
:P
noel.
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DiscyBhoy
That's all the idea is - a concept. I've seen it working in the San Siro so that's why I put the idea forward. You're quite right. Why should you move to suit others. But I'd at least like the club to write to all supporters' clubs and those in the Jock Stein upper to see what their thoughts on the idea are.
I'm in the North Stand upper so I can understand if you think "aye fine for you, you're not affected".
Personally I dont think it will ever happen. The best chance for it to have happened would have been if all three stands had been constructed at the same time and the club had introduced the idea then.
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St.Anthony
Damn! You've spoiled my post. Yesterday, Telfer was - and often is - the target of the boo boys. He gets no credit for good play but gets berated when he makes a mistake. His pass to Keane for the second goal was 'quality'. Credit where credit's due, bhoys!
On the early leavers, we have three late-comers and early-leavers in our row who disturb us 4 times every game. They must miss about 20 minutes of every game. However, having been brought up in the shadow of Hampden Park in the 50s and 60s, early leavers allowed me to dodge in for the last 20 minutes of all the important games in those decades. So maybe nothing has changed after all!
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Rumoids suggestion is already being talked about by the Irish supporters clubs. Although contact has been made to the ticket office staff nothing seems really to be moving. The ticket office staff from what i hear are sympathetic towards our cause but the usual red tape and lack of a thought out plan will hamper any efforts. Various large supporter associations in scotland have also lobbied the powers that be and there seemed to be no interest. Just the usual "what about the cost" speech. The jungle bhoys also had problems with their relocating to the singing section.
Make no mistake , it would be a huge undertaking to get anything off the ground for a mass relocation. It could be organised in phases to mirror the phasing in of smart cards or start for example with relocating the largest supporters groups.
It is a worth while exercise which would greatly enhance your " Paradise experience".
B.Quinn take note "happy punters spend more".
I will contact the ticket office this week and ask them on their view. Then I will publish their reply for debate.
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DiscyBhoy,
I'm 100% behind you. I sit in the Jock Stein Upper as well, and also travel to most games on my own. I have a great seat and no way do I want to move.
Another point is that I may not be life-long friends with the people who sit around me, but when you do sit next to the same people every other week for 7/8 years, you do get to know them as Celtic supporters. I'm sure we've all found ourselves hugging and dancing with total strangers in response to vital goals.
As for leaving early; I have a six hour drive home after the game, but I never leave before the final whistle. I'm sure there are people with good and pressing reasons for leaving early, but surely not 20,000 of them?
I'd rather stay and support the team for the full 90 minutes.
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My dear friend,Noel90,
Well that takes care of that one.
Thanks for the info., pal.
"If it is not one thing, it's another".......who said that?
Adam, did........ right after he and SHE, found themselves standing outside of Eden, staring at the LOCKED GATE......Absolutely Starkers and Clutching a wilting FIG LEAF to his other wilting Member.........
SHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEE!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Big Liam
Inaction from the PLC on fans issues...cant believe it..
Don't stay in to check your inbox this week....
I think the answer may be to build a new main stand....relocate anyone that has traces of prawn in their blood sample and then rearrange the crowd accordingly...
However this may be easier...get supporters in say the Jock Stein stand to identify a part of the ground they would like to get moved to if the situation arose...and work round it accordingly...
Paul..
Are Celtic introducing the smart cards so that they can effectively sell tickets twice as I suggested on here about 6 months ago...(ie for the guys who cant go)
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Good comments San Fran_Tic, Kojo et al.
The main thing is we are talking about the situation, what can be done to improve the atmosphere. We want the club to take up the challenge to a greater degree. Lets not settle for the current situation being the best we can do.
Why do our away fans and Aberdeens away fans do so well? The answer to that provides the main ingredients to solving our home game predicament.
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Where has this Jock Stein Stand thing come from?
Are we saying that all the supporters clubs would fit in there (capacity 12,500?), leaving the rest of the ground for individuals and small groups?
I used to travel on supporters buses and they were not made up of 50-60 best mates. They were just groups of people from a geographical area and would typically split up into groups of 6-7 when they got into the ground. Some supporters clubs are not even that big and might consist of 10-15 people most weeks.
In any supporters club, you will find a wide variety of people, united simply by their love for Celtic. They are of all ages and social groups and do not all want to sing like loonies for 90 minutes.
We shouldn't think a mass-relocation will automatically generate a better atmosphere in the ground. It will upset a lot of people who do not want to move.
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Discybhoy an firsbyhoop,
I just read your comments there and i fully understand them. Why should you be moved to cater for someone else?
This was the main point among discussions in the A.I.C.S.C's debate on the matter. The general idea behind the first phase relocation from the irish perspective was if you combine all the irish clubs seats which would probaly be in the region of say for talks sake 2000 to 3000 seats and then put them on a seating chart availible from the ticket office you would have large clusters of seats together already owned by the respective clubs. You could then swap clusters of seats between the clubs to gain more of your clubs supporters in general vicinity to each other. The Irish clubs generally feel that some sort of deal can be reached here with the books we have already in our possession collectivally. In general we feel there can be a solution. We just need someone to get the ball rolling.
I hope this helps clear up any misunderstanding.
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I understand that Rangers are quite far down the road of a 'season ticket amnesty' designed to improve atmosphere by sitting people next to their travel companions or friends within the stadium.
In my opinion it is currently no easier getting away from ibrox than CP after a game, especially heading East, despite the subway and motorway proximity.
I also have heard that they are working on a couple of bar areas designed to get fans in early keep people back after the game, similar to the very successful Hibs model.
Hibs have between 10 and 15% of their average attendance with access to a bar or bar areas pre and post match. they usually show a EPL game before and then a rerun od the game which has just been played after. This, as weel as good and reaonably priced grub, encourages folks to stay to the end and also helps increase revenue. They do this via a token membership scheme.
Last week they had a beamback of their Cup game at Falikirk played to over 1000 in their lounges and then many stayed to watch the rugby. This is a very good model which other bigger clubs would benefit from following perhaps.
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Interesting comments re atmosphere and 'support'.
Tinytim,
I do appreciate that as consumers fans are entitled to 'leave whenever they wish' this is irrefutable.
As true 'supporters' I would wholeheartedly disagree. Faithfull through and through etc....
This for me is the heart of the matter, at Celtic we have 30,000 or so latter day 'consumers' who feel that by paying their £500 per year they have a right to be entertained. They feel they have a right to sit and moan and groan for 70 mins and then head home to their sad little detached houses in x, y, or z new estate. Well I would rather we had a half empty stadium with people who really were true supporters than what we have now. These other folks can buy it on pay per view and continue to phone in to these 'hacks' on the radio. They have no part in 'supporting Celtic' as far as I am concerned regardless of what they pay.
My son and I were at the Livi - Hearts game today after being at CP yeasterday. Today we came home hoarse after shouting and cheering livi for over half of the game without feeling in the slightest self conscious. Our team lost but we had a really great football day. Yesterday we saw some really good football, our team won handsomely, yet we came home (as we have for several years at CP) feeling pretty flat about the actual experience. Crowd at Livi only 5,000 !
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For once I'm glad Hearts won today - it keeps them well above Rangers.
Hartley was speaking on Setanta as if they are now only playing for 2nd place... we need to keep winning but if the opposition has given up it can only be a good thing.
More importantly:
What happened to the Milan enquiry?!?!
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St Anthony, I was out at my local parochial hall on Friday night – at my ‘regular’ quiz night.
Kojo, the expensive seats allow for the consumption of alcohol, I believe without food in some parts of the ground.
You cannot consume and watch the game at the same time.
It does appear that the law uses finance to decide who can and who cannot consume alcohol.
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it appears there is splitting in the ranks of the population of Judea.unite against the common enemy...
darts practice with aldo went well, i won 20 games to 5 but that was more to do with the beer he had.
must go and find my mobile fone and car keys...looks like the pesky badgers off with them again......
slan
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Quick opinion poll-
who do you prefer-these amigos ?A.
OR
amigos ?B.
OR
amigos ?C.
?
noel.
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Has 2 be 3.………………………
With the king……………………..of Kings……………….
bigjoewhoispackinghisbag
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amigos A for me noel90...
or a combination of A B and C would give a trio of Thom,Henke and The bear......
with no 'leetle problems'
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hmmm difficult choice between henke and ' dazza' for me.
JPF
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The nostalgic 70's discussion on Friday evening brought something up taht is worth mentioning.
Pre 1985, hard as it is to believe, there was no segregation at Parkhead. Fans quite happily stood together (not always !) and this added to the experience. A few memories.
1. Possibly the biggest away support was the St Mirren fans under Ferguson around 1977 when they had the McGarvey-Fitzpatrick side. Must have been about 7000 of them, a huge turnout at that time.
2. Remember Dundee fans waving a union jack around'79 and the jungle virtually emptying to chase them out the ground !
3. Even OF games were unsegregated in the main stand. I recall Danny Crainie scoring and me and the old bhoy going mental, totally surrounded by huns in the upper stand.
4. Until late 70's Rangers fans even got a share of the jungle.
5. Can only remember Hibs and Clydebank fans braving it in the Celtic end with their scarves on.
6. Worth pointing out that away fans can now come to CP without the intimidation they endured in the 70's.
Then they built that big bloody ugly partition in the Rangers end...............
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noel - The first picture shows Aitken and McCluskey celebrating winning the 4-2 game in 1979 with bottles of Solripe orangeade. Get the biscuit tin open.........now !
For any aul hauns there is a good quiz question tomorrow night at Corrie time.
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Noel,
Good little poser.
Could I suggust one from each.
a - Big Roy
b - Big Pierre (Controversial i know but personally I thought he was a winner - and proved it in the hoops - unlike the other two)
c - the King
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st ant...."Then they built that big bloody ugly partition in the Rangers end..............."
dont agree with partition but in this case its an exception to the rule......lol.
kevtic... or the 'mental' stability of murdo, mahe and cadette....wow could get a case conference on psychological diagnostics....
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Paul-
Its Sunday night-
We ARE 13 points clear-
Can we pay a little homage to our other team ?
noel.
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Burnley 78
Spot on about the modern 'consumer' who now inhabit Celtic Park. 'I've paid my money so I will say what I want and leave when I want' is their motto.
Here is my take on the stereotypical home supporter.
Take your seat and cheer loudly as the huddle takes place.
Thereafter sit on your hands and spend the remainder of the game berating Celtic players every time a pass goes astray or a move doesn't come off.
Choose a player for special treatment of said berating. Telfer is the popular choice just now.(Previously Thommo and before him Didier). If he makes any sort of error he must be verbally abused for at least 15 seconds. If he does anything good,just ignore it and wait for the next mistake and give him a mouthful.
Do not criticise Stan. He is above criticism. If Stan makes a mistake shout at telfer.It's bound to be his fault.Kojo criticised Stan once and he has had hell to pay ever since.
Depending on the score leave 20/15/10 mins before the end of the game. In case you forget to look at your watch and end up accidentally staying until the final whistle, don't bother waiting to applaud the team off the park congratulating them on a fine performance and victory. Head straight for the exit.
You can then go back to work on Monday and tell everybody it's great to be a tim and what a great experience it is watching your team run away with the league.
If however you want to feel like a real supporter,sitting beside other true celtic fans who realise what it means to be a celtic supporter,buy a ticket for an away game.
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sorry to drag the debate back to previous topics, but it really was astounding to see the number of fans leaving early yesterday. Tought luck - they missed the pick of the goals!
Why don't we put those big screens to good use? Run an advert with Mr Keane, along the lines of..
"I play for 90 minutes - why don't you stay for 90 minutes? Or have you got a prawn sandwich to rush home for?"
Sorry - marketing brain on there, but i really do feel that we can do something about the flat, flat atmosphere these days at the ground. Feeling more and more self-conscious with every game i sing at.....
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St Anthony,
Segregation - my first Old Firm match was 3-2 October '82 (McStay, McGarvey, MacLeod)
I was sitting in the Front Stand front row, four seats from the away dugout. I was at the beginning of the row. Accross the isle were the Rangers fans.
When Murdo score the winner in a cracker of a game and of course we went crazy. I clenched my fist didn't realise I was waving it under the blue nose of rather sick looking gers fan!
I wouldn't know that OF dejected feeling for five more games - the Glasgow Cup Final Hampden in '83.
Being Davie Hay's poor record in OF games, particularly cup finals!
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Big liam / rumoid
I appreciate that it might be hard to empathise with PL et al over this but I am sure they would want to have a much better 'experience' than that which we currently have at CP. Taking action is difficult Rangers have been trying to resolve it for a few years and have yet to make real progress, I am sure Celtic are doing likewise. When my boy tells me he enjoys going to Livi more than Celtic because they all cheer the team despite being in a half empty wee stadium, then it is clear something major needs to be done.
My priorities for focus would be : The standing area behind each goal in line with Milan , I realise the legislation required would make this a challenging one. Better in stadium bar areas for pre and post match drinks and food would also be a major step forward. Not rocket sience, merely need some kind of business plan to justify investment I would have thought.
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nice blog again noel90...
adalante!!! villareal!!!!
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Wins for Fiorentina, Draw for Roma, Win for Spurs, Draw for Valencia all seem good news for Celtic in Pot B ?
Anyone know how Panithinikos / AEK got on ?
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Panathanaikos 1 -0 AEK
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Burnley 78,
My info says 1:0 to Panathanaikos at FT. Don't think this was what we wanted.
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1-0 to Panathinaikos, we wanted it the other way.
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bird flu hits europe......:-P
Rangers manager Alex McLeish fears a flu epidemic could decimate his team ahead of the Champions League game against Villarreal in Spain.
Injury and illness forced the Ibrox boss to make three changes for the 2-1 win over Falkirk in the Bank of Scotland Premier League. And he hopes his plans will not be thrown into disarray again as they prepare to fly out on Monday for the second leg of the last-16 clash.
He said: "There were many enforced changes to the team from the last game, but we hope that the squad is intact for Tuesday night."
sportinglife...
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im just glad that as an NHS employee i got my flu jag months ago...a bit like many of the over 65 auld hands here......
flu virus must be competent to be able to wipe out the 'superorc' virus......scary stuff if the scientists get their hands on it!!
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j.p.p.f-
I,m starting to think you could be related to Aldo............
maybe its just me.........
:P
noel.
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noel90 you could be 99.9% correct..
i usually post under the name aldo67 but thought id liven things up a bit....
for another name i might even pick a current celtic players name for example..who knows??? who cares?????
the bird flu tenuous link was the bit about the orcs preparing to 'fly out on monday' to spain...bet their arms would be sore.
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Bhass Bhoy.
This is a bit far out there but what about an early exist fee - charged to your smartcard. Or more realistically your exit is tracked on the SC and it builds a profile that is weighed when you reapply for your season ticket.
Out of the box a little I guess.
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Anybody go to the cinema and leave b4 the end or go out for dinner eat half then leave? I dont buy every one has commitments, its a bug bear of mine, people CHOOSE to leave early and i find it irritating, particularly when game in balance and team giving their all and people are leaving in droves. I can think of many instances under MON when people entering game saying to mates, "if 2 or more up get you outside with 10 to go", planning on leaving early b4 start of game. Just bugs me, whatever happened to faithful through and through. We earned our reputation as great fans when times werent great,when there seemed to me more atmosphere at games and everyone was in it together. Gone are the days when the celtic support were the 12th man, they are now the 12th man for the opposition (or is that15th after you take into account the officials)
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Noel90 I was standing outside for a bit but got a little scared by all the yelling coming from inside. MrsNoel has quite the tongue on her…..I almost called the Cops. Are you ok?
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Windsorbhoy, Damonii - visited Rosie McCaffreys Irish bar and restuarant home of the Phoenix CSC.
Real nice bar, very clean, good food, good beer and great atmosphere, one wall all Celtic.
Seems the place was heaving when the game was on.
I'll keep it in mind for the next time.
Thanks
Oregonbhoy
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kingoh
Agree re your comments on the Celtic home 'consumers'. Yes it is a lot more 'like the old days' in the away games.....
The Stan thing is interesting because although he is a very nice chap IMO he blows hot and cold. Saturday he was clearly 'hot' but due to his moving infield and further forward i often felt this left Telfer without a safe 'out ball', consequently Telfer got a lot of abuse...
It clearly worked for the greater good as Stan had such an impact and Celtic won 3-0 but i did feel Telfer took similar stick to Didier from 'ignorant consumers' who did not understand his role.
Thompson IMO possibly recieved more stick due to his arrogant attitude, on and off the park, which combined with his hefty salary probably left him open to more abuse when it started to go wrong. As it did from the CIS game at Ibrox in 2004. I had less sympathy for him somehow, especially after the way he treated Mo Camara in Bratislava. But appreciate your point.
Poor show from AEK, we might struggle now if Fiorentina don't get back on the rails.
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Burnley78
Have faith in Fiorentina. Back up to 4th tonight after a last minute winner in the Tuscan derby with Siena and Roma dropping points at home to Inter.
Fiorentina's talisman Luca Toni is continuing to knock in the goals while Roma's talisman Francesco Totti is out for at least another two months.
martinobhoy - also a Viola Bhoy.
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Re the discussion about selling alcohol in Celtic Park. The club could do worse than look at what the GAA did with Croke Park. There are around 8,000 premium and corporate level seats where food and alcohol have been served as the stadium has been redeveloped over the last ten years. They’re open for a couple of hours before the game and for several hours afterwards. Drinks can’t be brought out to the seat. Lots of TV screens inside to watch other sports; the Hoops are always shown when they’re on.
Last summer the stadium applied for bar licenses for the concourses in the cheap seats (all 60,000 of them). There was a bit of opposition from the usual sources – will somebody please think of the children? – but the licenses were granted. Those bars are open for two hours before and after matches. They’re well stewarded to minimise under-age drinking and they’re slowly weaning fans away from the local pubs.
Clubs in Germany are doing it, Hibs are doing it, the GAA, rugby and American sports are doing it: why not Celtic? Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Noel90. Now the breast has been mentioned I think we have taken this one too far.
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On the leaving early debate
It happens at every major ground, the only way it will ever stop is if the traffic flow is flawless.
Why don't we all stop talking about things we can't change and talk about things we can - like the atmosphere at Celtic Park?
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For the life of me I cannot understand why Celtic don't buy a wee bit of land near the ground, and turn into a gigantic bar. It would pay for itself within a season, and creat a big of a focal point for the fhans- especially those that have travelled from afar.
Nothing fancy like- a few big fridges, a couple of pictures of MON and Henrik, Jock et al on the walls, and plenty of bar staff.
Open 11:00- 19:00 on Saturday. Bob is your auntie's husband.
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ItaliaBhoy
There is more than enough room within the new stands CP to have 3 large bars in each part.
STH that would want to use such a facility could pay £50 on top of there ST price.
Then we may have an atmosphere also but a little trouble into the bargain if it got really popular. I suppose number restrictions would solve this problem. A policy not used in bars all along the Gallogate!
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Must admit that the club should look into providing bars in the concourses beneath the stands. It would certainly bring something to the atmosphere. Although, as I mentioned on one of the early post on my blog (the one where I left the sandwiches with Mrs Corpachbhoy back in the Parkhead Forge car park and ended up buying lunch inside the ground for the lads ... and I only had two then!), the prices would probably mean that most fans would still drink in the boozers around the ground.
As regards standing sections. The Lord Justice Taylor, stated that standing was recommended not compulsory. I think that safe can be achieved easily. If they have it in other European countries who have matchday attendances similar to Scotland and Engurland, then why cant we. IMHO this would deffo bring back the BIG atmospheres we remember (hopefully without the wet feet and trouser bottoms).
All the best
Corpachbhoy
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Obviously that should read "safe standing can be achieved easily."
All the best
Corpachbhoy
deanfriedmancsc
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Judean PPF 10.27
Police have just announced that they have traced the source of this bird flu epidemic at Ibrox. It seems there was a dead duck in the manager's office.
settingfreewhoisgetting hiscoatflungathimandhistaxifarepaid
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Now that Brokeback Mountain has crashed and burned like McLeish's fortunes since last May, I would just like to return to Friday's blog from Paul.
Aberdeen came to CP as Scotland's FORM team. Quote from Friday:
They have lost only once in the league (Boxing Day at Fir Park) since their defeat to Celtic on 4 December, and have beaten Hearts, Hibs and Rangers in recent weeks.
So that only leaves one form team in Scotland. Only one manager who can be manager of the month, and receive the recognition and respect from all of us.
Step forward WGS.
I, and many on here, were prepared to adapt a wait and see policy and give you the time and support to put a winning and attractive side on the field.
No more do I need to wait and see.
You have done it laddie.
Confounded the critics, overcome the sceptics and most importantly laid the firm foundations for an optimistic future.
SALVE RUFUS
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2 BELLS
Bridge is ready for Noel90s inspection.
Celtic averaging 2.75 goals per game.
13 points and 16 goals ahead of second place.
10 games to go.
The good ship is at full speed ahead and steady on course for a DOUBLE.
Time to break out the rum ration and start enjoying the cruise.
Now we heed our friends in the yellow submarines to put the patient out of our misery.
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Need.
Good morning Noel.
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Gavil - Evening if you want to get the head down i'll wait for Noel. I am sitting hear listening to the rain. We are under another flood alert. What is going on?
