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Podium?
TTTT
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I agree we are not ready yet but am confident we will run them close.
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OttoKaiser from previous thread
I was there at the end of July.
Take a bus tour, hop on hop off to get your bearings on the 1st day as it's an absolutely massive city, then get an underground pass for the remaining days, very cheap and efficient.
Lots of street cafe's and plenty to see, all the hotels have tourist maps which have underground route's etc. and everything is easy to follow.
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We'll give it our all, Paul
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Are you a betting man Paul ?
Man Utd v Celtic
Money-Back Special
Wed 7.45pm Sky Sports
If Celtic win this match, Paddy Power will refund all losing 1st/last goalscorer, correct score and scorecast single bets on the match.
Conditions
Win-Draw-Win
Man Utd 4 - 11
Draw 3 - 1
Celtic 9 - 1
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I fancy us to cause them some problems and maybe get a draw.
A lot will depend on how our defensive unit plays. If it plays well then I can see us coming more and more into the game and causing them problems.
I predict a 1-1.
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ro7,
googled these bars for you. I imagine that with this being the Chapions League rather than the SPL, at least one (if not all) will be showing it.
JJ's Sports Bar
1 Le Thanh Tong Str.
(1st floor of the Hilton...up the stairs from the main lobby)
http://www.newhanoian.com/details.php/venueid/14
Bar Barracuda To 4A, Phuc Tan, (04)9323244, hanoi_barracuda@hotmail.com is reportedly the most fashionable hang-out for expats in town. They offer live-music, a beer garden, sports bar and dancing area.
MET PUB
Sofitel Metropole Hotel
15 Ngo Quyen
Hanoi
Tel: (84-4) 826 6919
Culi Cafe 40 Lương Ngọc Quyến, (84-04)9262241, culicafe@wideeyedtours.com, http://www.wideeyedtours.com. If you have come to Vietnam to feel as if you haven't left your hometown or just need a break from Bia Hoi, this Kiwi-run Bar might be an option. There's an air-conditioned lounge upstairs and occasionally sports are being screened in the bar downstairs.
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If any Celtic players need any motivation then WGS should just nail all these Old Trafford "legends" statements to the dressing room wall. I have heard so much crap spouted by them over recent days , some fanciful notions of pure ignorance ie. resting players etc , that they have indeed shown us disrespect. Its about time we shut some of these moronic clowns up.
Lets show these clowns who their dealing with.
Get into them.........
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match review and man utd preview now posted on www.thelordofthewing.blogspot.com.
Had a bit of a facelift brand new away top for the new season.....
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Paul - no excuses for Naka on Wednesday night.
It's the stage he wanted - so it's time for him to show us that he deserves to be there. Cometh the hour....
TTTTwhoisgoingtoOTwithhope
inhisheart....butnotalot!
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Paul assuming the deadline for the portugese FA (14/09/06) passes what do you realistically see ahppening to the two clubs?
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Why the hell are we not ready?
is this our first game ever?
were gonna take a big step forward on wednesday win/lose or draw ill make my excuses after the game gents.
1-2 to the mighty celtic!!!
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My team for the game on Wednesday
Boruc
Wilson
Caldwell
McManus
Naylor
Jarosik
Lennon
Graveson
Pearson
McGeady
JVoH
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Cheers for the Berlin info. lovejoy and Awe_Naw
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Glasgowdave, I’ll not trouble the bookies with this one.
Jackd from previous article.
I know people are getting onto Maciej because has scored only one goal in his last few games. Immediate and constant gratification is always preferable to form that peaks and falls.
He started slowly for Celtic last season, no goals in five, but then scored in all but six games in all competitions until the day the league was won.
Here is the news:
Form comes and goes for all of them, even Jinky.
Here is my view:
I will not dismiss a player who has just come off such a prolific season when his form drops.
Here is the stats:
Maciej had played six and scored three. He does not take penalties or free kicks.
Some slump.
Belfast Bhoy, from my reading, I do not believe that Uefa will allow the local problem in Portugal to impact Europe.
Unlike the recent Greek example, the Portuguese FA and judiciary are ‘on side’.
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I think we have to approach this game the way Scotland approached the Lithuania match. Which is one of the reasons why its Miller ahead of Zurawski.
Boruc
Wilson Caldwell McManus Naylor
Lennon
McGeady Jarosik Gravesen Miller
JVofH
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Big Paul…………glad 2 be back…………………..
Glasgowdave…………………………
From the last thread………………………..
Cheers for the info in Paddy Power…………….
I am working on an………………………..
ech-way, double, accumulator, yankee, lucky 15 tricast, perm, first past the post, correct score placepot……………………….
Which if it comes in I can retire……………………..
BigjoewhoisGoing2skintheBOOKIES
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Paul,
I have a bit more hope than you do for this one. I'm also with those that advocate bringing Jarosik in. This will be a night where we'll need players who understand the pace that we will face all over the park.
Also, I'd urge caution on the part of our fans. We are all used to playing ManU in friendlies, where it's ok to wear hoops in their sections. This might have a different tone to it, so I hope everyone is awake and aware.
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How we fare on Wednesday night will be heavily dependent on whether we can keep the ball & keep our shape.
It's a pity that this game has come too soon for Maloney as he would be an asset down there for us with his change of pace, goal threat & ability to keep the ball.
I would like to see us use 2 big men up front in JVOH & Jarosik & basically play off them.
I'm a big fan of Zurawski, but i don't feel he is right for this game. Miller whilst full of running, cannot keep the ball & this is no use at Champions League level
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Very well put Paul.
I have always stated that the post match analysis of this game would be of crucial importance.
Possession will be the key for Celtic. If we can hold on to the ball for sustained spells then this will allow us to dampen the Man Utd attack.
The 'out' ball in the form of Miller.
The target man ball is a must in the form of JVoH.
Experience of playing at a high level is a must - the form of Gravesen and Jarosik.
Nakamura is certainly a risk - no doubt about that but his dead ball skills could win the game.
McGeady could be our trump card and it helps that the defensive side of his game has vastly improved this season.
Balde for the sheer presence of the man would be in my team with Caldwell. McManus was embarrassed by Man Utd reserves; I dread to think what Rooney will do.
Strachan's team is now picked in his head, he has been relishing this game since the draw was made.
Celtic will be outpaced and out muscled for the most part on Wednesday so it will be up to Gordon Strachan to outsmart
his old mentor.
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Just been talking to my r**gers supporting work colleague about this game. He asked how I see it panning out and, to be honest, I haven't a clue!
I can see three scenarios...
1) ManU think they just have to "turn-up" and we get a surprise win
2) A battling draw.
3) We get humped
Obviously I want the first, would be content with the second, and absolutely DREAD the third.
I am constantly chopping and changing which one I "think" is going to happen and my nerves are being torn apart!
and there's still two days to go!
(I would guess I'm not the only one feeling this way)
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Eh, I have a feeling we will be chasing shadows more than anything else on Wed
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Jarosik hasn't done enough to be included yet. For me Naka is ahead of him, in a lot of the away games in the SPL he is man marked (or kicked) out of the game. I don't think MU will do that to him, he should have more time on the ball....
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Big joe is wondering……………………
about…………………………..
The………Man of the Match……..
Against…………………chelsky………………………..
SNO……………………………………
Surly the Big Man deserves a chance………………
bigjoewhoWantssomeSNOatoldTrafford
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Can anyone post a quick rough guide with a Celtic slant to Manchester for those of us arriving on the day trip?
Very much appreciated.
Parkheadcumsalford?
As for the game, Kenny Miller wide right of a midfield 5 with Jarosik in for Naka. Big Jan up front holding it up.
Alternatively leave Naka in and hope Lubos Michel is true to form. Naka is great at turning his back to a player when he's on the ball and wins lots of free kicks when barged, even with 'harder' Scottish refs.
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Realistically I think Wednesday's game is about the experience and education for the other CL games.
I'm looking for an encouraging performance to set us up for the next 2 games at home to Copenhagen & Benfica. These are the must win games.
I'd be happy enough with 6 points after the first 4 games. The we have a real 'Battle of Britain' with ManU at home. They may have qualified for the group stages by then. Then it's Copenhagen away where we hopefully win a CL away game.
Benfica dropping points in Copenhagen and at home to ManU would be a big help.
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Two points - firstly, remember Barcelona, March 2004 (I think) 0-0, Marshall outstanding. We can do a job on Wednesday, its depends whether or not the team are up for the whole 90. I expect Naka and Vennegoor of H to shine.
Secondly, not so much a point as a question - where to go in Manchester on a competitive match day?
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I would imagine there will be huge interest in japan for this match, therefore wee Naka will be wanting to play a blinder, fingers crossed he does
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Watched Man Utd v Spurs at the weekend at the Man U defence were very susceptible when dealing with cross balls, in fact Defoe and Mido both missed glorious chances from crosses on more than one occasion.
If Mc Geady and Nakamura are on their game they should provide more than enough ammunition for JVOH to get on the end off, and hopefully, with some luck, we will be able to punish them.
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Well done Paul,
You got them all arguing with each other again – Your surname aint Keevins is it?
I couldn’t make up my mind Celtic to win @ 9/1 or draw 2-2 @ 25/1 – so I took both.
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Why, why oh why must we constantly read what Pat Crerand and Lou Macari have to say about Celtic's prospects? Both deserve little respect in my eyes for the their trade-in of Celtic in favour of Man United. Macari especially, after all that has passed between him and the club - April Fool signings and a lengthy court action - should learn to keep his mooth firmly closed. Hype up Man Utd all they want but do not even begin to make pronouncements about this Celtic team's strengths and weaknesses.
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My dear friend SteveS,
Game on Wednesday?
Easy Peasy, Lemon Squeezy!!!!!!!!!!!!
This game pal, is the game that our friend Kenny has bin waitin' for!
Doncha know the game plan....man??
Noo the slumberin'lumberin' oppo, has bin weel and truly Lulled...... Bam..... we go fur their SKULLLLL!
Even THE Addis hiz, chinged his mind, on that bhoy!!...he is a runaway train..A real Flyin' Scot!.......he's just getting up to speed....... Ah noticed a big change in his confidence agin' the Dons...... Didnae you??
This gemme is in the bag.....celi'c will NO SAG!
Jiri is no quite ready for this game.....he's been a wee bit under the weather...gie him another week or two.
The competition for places is gettin' to Green an' White Heat......jist what the Li'l Admiral waaaants!
An' when Molly is ready.....wham bam! thank ye mam!...... Look at the permutations at Gordo's disposal!
I am in favour of Miller....the Killer!
Yessirreeboabbeee!!
It's gonna be a CASH WEDNESDAY fur us!!
Hail! Hail!
Kojo
Manchester United 0 Celtic 67~
By the way,Paul.......
Fargo and collie are flyin' in for the gemme.... Ah'll no be with 'em.
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Based on the nega-Naka comments on previous thread, this may be controversial, but if we're going to play Naka in any games, it's the European ones I feel he would have more impact... Less physical than the Shot-Putters of Mid-lithunian and less hectic than the usual three parts fitness to one part talent than the average SP-Hell teams... more space to weave his magic?
Kenny Miller is used to playing up front on his tod and if ever there was a team made for his harrying style and defending from the front it's the languid defending of Rio & Wes Brown... I'm guessing this type of game was why we signed him.
However, whilst a draw would be a great result, I can't help feel that ManU will score at home, so we'll need a goal from somewhere to have a shout at any sort of result, and BigJan is getting the ball in the net...
If we're playing for a neggy-draw 4-5-1 with JVoH on the bench, but I'd prefer 4-4-2 and let the dice fall where they may...
C'mon the Hoops :O)
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kojo,
Ok. You're opTIMism has worked.
We're gonnae dae it!!! :-)
StevieS optimists-r-us.csc
p.s. totally agree with you on KM. I believe he will go on to be a "Celtic Great".
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Paul
McGeady could not open a can of beans.
He is not Celtic class.
TERNAR
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WHY ALL THIS NEGATIVITY?
Barca
Juve
Ajax
Milan
All of these game we were given no chance.
We put Ajax out, Juve robbed us, but were punnished for it at paradise. Barca were put out the uefa cup and we got a great draw away from home in the CL. And we all remember Milan celebrating like they had won the whole comp when they held on for a 0-0 drw at parkhead, after we had played brilliantly in the sansiro.
I am not being blind here. This is a massive ask for us, but I would think it digracefull if a single member of the team pulled on that glorious hooped shirt with the thought that they were going out on the field to get a draw at best.
so why are the fans doing it?
some of the posts on here are shamefully pecimistic.
Get behind the bhoys, and watch them give their all for us!!!
you never know they just might shock one or 2 of you!!
HAIL HAIL!
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Big Joe at 2.13 has a point about the lad Sno. I liked the cut of his jib against Chelski. My plan of action would be to pack the midfield push them wide. They may have great players but they aint the best headers of the ball IMO. Push them wide force them to make long crosses, well not the kind that gets the likes of Boruc into trouble but you get the drift. Push them wide and sting them on the counter. Well thats my theory :}
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a wee "tactical" suggestion....
if Rooney is playing "in the hole" stick Lenny on him as a man-marker.
Yes? No?
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Chairbhoy in the last thread and Truetim here have explained why Nakamura will play. Dead balls. End of.
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Its too tempting to simply say we should have 1 up front and pack the midfield, as it is done to us every week in the SPL, and when done right, is effective in stifling us, as was the case on Saturday.
However, the teams who put 9-10 men behind the ball know how to defend like that, they do it often enough, they know where certain players will be at certain times, they have defended as a unit as a matter of necessity on the training pitch and during matches.
We dont.
Asking players who are used to attacking all the time, used to having all the possession, used to doing everything except defending for long periods of the game, and going large portions of the game without the ball, to all of a sudden do all the things they are not used to, is asking for trouble in my opinion.
We can not allow Man Utd to have time on the ball and we can not allow Man Utd to build from the back, we need Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink (someone come up with a nickname soon please!!) and Miller up there, chasing down the defence, forcing them to make a pass and not giving them time to pick their passes.
This is going to be absolutely crucial.
If we go 1 up front, yes we are loading the midfield, but we are giving the full backs the time and space to move forward and join the midfield and the time for the defence to pick out a pass into the path of a runner off the ball.
We need to play as far up the pitch as we can get them, there is no point in people saying the defence is not good enough, and the central defenders more to the point are not good enough, and then picking a line up that is going to put them more under pressure.
The defence will not be able to cope of we are boxed in in a confined amount of space, midfielders or wingers making off the ball runs into the penalty area will not be picked up, our defence has always had a tendency to ball watch, we need to avoid those scenarios if at all possible.
Anyone who thinks Celtic have a chance, anyone Celtic affiliated who has something remotely negative to say about Man Utd should turn their phones off and refuse to speak to anyone related to the media.
The more people i see write us off the better, hopefully the players are reading all of it, and becoming more convinced they have already won the game before it starts, then lets hit them right from the off.
If Strachans teams are as fit as he says they should be, lets go for it, not give them a second, put the frighteners up them from the off, it will disjoint them, unsettle them and we need to be clinical in exploiting any forced and unforced errors that come our way
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Paul - like you I don´t expect any points from the Man Utd. games. Having seen them play three times this season I think they are a far better team than they have been for 3-4 years and their confidence is sky high.
A narrow defeat on wed. is as much as I dare to hope for and a morale bosting draw in the return leg would be a major bonus. Anything more than that would truly be an incredible achievement.
I don´t think this is being pessimistic, it is being realistic. We are not in Man Utd.´s class (or Arsenal´s or Chelseas) and that is a fact. The Seville team may well have won a game like this through their indomnitable spirit and fantastic attacking options (as well as the MON factor) but time has moved on and we are some way adrift of that standard at present. To argue otherwise is an act of blind faith - something that plenty contributors have on here (and I sadly do not).
Some on here are also criticising the ex-Man Utd. stars for "spouting rubish" - what exactly would you expect them to say? Crerard is spot on when he says he doubts if there is one Celtic player that would get a starting place in the Man Utd. XI. I don´t see that as a contentious statement, it is a valid and probably accurate points of view. Likewise, I doubt if Barcelona, Real Madrid or AC Milan would take any of our players into their teams - so what? Teams with poorer calibre players regularly cause upsets through a combination of "punching above their weight" (MON´s team), luck, tactical brilliance and the right attitude.
We have a chance, and that is what makes it such a brilliant game.
Hail, Hail from Denia
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Paul
Let's hope we are not the only ones out of our depth on Wednesday. The referee is Mr Lubos Michel again. The same bloke who was out of his depth in Seville I believe.
SB
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Paul,
I am not one to contradict, normally, nor am I one to say anything negative anout Magic.
However, as the saying goes "there are lies, there are damn lies and there are statistics".
Yes, has has scored 3 in 6, but to look at it another way, he has in fact scored 1 in his last 5.
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well said Paddy
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Tactical suggestion Big Mick to Rooney in his ear after 5 mins, your Colleen still seeing Gray then?. Take the punch and see the red card through a hazy mist. Big Mick will recover after 10 mins or so :}
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ternar
ludicrous statement!
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denia bhoy -
even bill mcneil says that the lisbon lions were not the best individualy. none of them would have got into the inter side they faced...even jinky. FACT
But that was the biggest hammering of 2-1 i have ever whitnessed
Real have a great team of individuals. they have wone sweet F A for the last few seasons.
Man u blamed being dumped out of europe last season on not having a big enough squad.....
and added 1 single player Carrick, who is incidently out of the match.
They are a top side
but definately beatable!
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I'm going for a goal each from VoH and Miller. As for how many against, who knows..? At least a point for the Bhoys. Heart speaking over head again but what the hell - Mon the Hoops!
LGS
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al obundy,
I bow to your FAR better tactical suggestion sir.
:-)
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I think that naka should play against ManUtd. His one pass could bring us a goal. And I'm still think that he's waiting for the big games, like this one, and doesn't want to play with average SPL teams. He will shine at Old Trafford. If rooney plays I would like to see gravesen or lennon next to him every second to provoke him. I'm looking for a red card for rooney there.
Best wishes to Bhoys!
Hail! Hail!
Pole
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al obundy
BRILLIANT, you should be a manager ;o)))
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Al Obundy @ 2.46………………………………..
Cheers M8,……………….
the checks in the post………………
SNO………………………..
2 put on a show……………………….
At old traffordOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FromBigJeoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OK I will get me cotOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bigjoewhohasgot2gOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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This is what it is all about.
Forget being rational. We are gonny murder them. Allow yourself to believe that. We are gonny invade Manchester, show them what the Greatest Fans In the World are all about. Out sing, out dance and out shine anything they have got to offer. At Old Trafford the reds will be left wondering what hit them. First a wall of noise, then a mighty Dane followed by the flying Dutchman. They will be stunned and confused as Miller pulls them all roads. Half time will see Siwalex hastily regrouping to adopt a damage limitation exercise in the second half, so dont be too dissapointed if we only add 1 more goal to the three from the first half. Manchester doesnt know what is gony hit them.
Unleash hell Celtic!
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----------- Free The Gallowgate Ghonk ----------
The ghonk gentlemen ?
Going........going........ghonk.
Where are the aulder hauns than me who can identighonk the Green Ghonk of Lisboa ?
I'm not going away you know.
WishyGhonkbhoy
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Personally, I'd tell Gravesen to stay as far away from Rooney as possible. Almost a guaranteed double sending-off. Let Lenny or (as al obundy suggested) big Mick get him.
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http://sport.scotsman.com/football_european.cfm?id=1336952006
Celtic Soccer Crew ... been supporting Celtic for over 40 years and I have NEVER EVER HEARD of them ???
Am I sheltered ?
Have I been Lucky ?
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Agree with Lovejoy re Ternars statement. The boy could open a tin of beans with either foot.
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Mcgeady has been our best player so far this year.
Why slate him Ternars?
if you are good enough you are old enough.
This is one bhoy that could go on to be an absolute legeng (along with Maloney, Big Mick and Wilson)
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Paul,
It's a lovely day here in Salford, more like summer really. That's by the bye, of course. BlantyreKev was asking for some info as regards Manchester. Sorry haven't mastered the skill of putting maps or illustrations on the web but, if you're after entertainment to whet your whistle before the game and are coming down by train then the surrounds of Piccadilly Gardens (Manchester's George Square)has plenty to offer. If it's culture you're after, head for the Salford Quays (where a lot of Man U fans park for the game0 where the Lowry Centre and the Imperial War Museum North (don't be put off by the title: nowhere could be more anti-war)are places well worth visiting.
Personally, (and auld hauns won't be surprised) I tend towards those dreading Wednesday evening. I tend to concur with Paddy Crerand's assessment and hope to God he's got it totally wrong. By the way, while I can't stand Macari, Paddy Crerand was a Celtic great, who never wanted to leave Parkhead but was forced out.
The problem is, as Martin O'Neill was saying the other day, we play in the SPL. If we were in the EPL or something similiar we would soon be assuming our real place in the football world: Numero Uno.
Oh for a victory on Wednesday. It would be even better than Anfield and that was wonderful.
I would have Jarosik, if fit, and possibly Sno, too. I fear what the likes of Giggs and Rooney will do to our defense and, especially Lennon and McManus.
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The starting XI is likely to come from the following:
AB+
Marko
Caldavaro
Mick
Naylsie
the Skipper
TG
Naka
JJ
Aidinho
Majic
JVH
Dusty.
How many are'Celtic class'.
Good question.
What is Celtic class?
We have 1 point away from home in the CL.The game is this Wednesday;we'll have to go with what we've got.Go being the right word-play Dusty rather than Majic,as he will harry the MU back 4 and midfield.Play Aidinho-it's a chance to show what he can do on the big stage.
Swarm all over them like greenandwhite wasps.
O.K.,the players may not have'Celtic class'but there's no reason why they can't play with bags of Celtic fire.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight..
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I agree with TTTT and Jockbhoy. This should be a game made for Naka and indeed all these players who tell us on signing that they came to play on the 'big stage'. Time to put up amigos!
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Paul,
Just to add: when our neighbours from South of the river were down here on CL business, all the pubs bar 1 closed. As far as I know, no one has even suggested anything similiar for our visit. It seems we only get tagged with them in Scotland.
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we should be used to being written off by the media.
In scotland we will never be as good as the mighty gers....(cough spit)
and when have we ever played an english club in proper competition and ever been veiwed as favorites?
Its never stopped us before.
BRING IT ON!!
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Weeron, give me until Wednesday for my conviction to return.
VargasShampoo, agree, Maloney would have been a big asset.
TrueTim, it is a big ask for Gordon to pull this one off, though I take your point, he will been planning for this for weeks now.
St-Gris, careful.
Kojo, Fargo and Collie don’t know how lucky they are. You tell them to enjoy themselves in the usual manner.
Terner 2:41, Ha! Not biting.
Paddy 2:42, I love your optimism, something I am often accused off having myself. I have no point of reference to share your view with this one.
I have still not recovered from being a man up against a poor Anderlecht team, and Dontask about Donetsk.
Seanbhoy, 2:55, thanks for that news about Luboss Michel, I had not heard, and am not pleased.
The man is hopelessly out of his depth on short-cut grass.
Computergeeljohn, 2:57, there goes Maciej’s run of bad form.
Name me a footballer who does not have one. I am old enough to remember Jimmy Johnstone have the odd bad period as well.
Parkheadcomesalford, let’s hope the natives are avoiding you on Thursday.
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anyone know what strip we'll be wearing i have to say the hoops have to get the shout, especialy for lads like lennon, wilson, mcmanus
thier chests will already be puffed out with pride if its the famous hoops
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Paul is going all poetic on us.
'Don't ask about Donetsk'
Ten out of ten.
They should bring out a DVD — I'd buy it for the title alone.
Let's hope you have plenty to be poetic about from Wednesday night on.
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Paul,
"Dontask about Donetsk!!"
MMMMMM!MMMMMMMMM! MMMMMMM!
Pureee Buttah!.... Muckahhhhhhhh!
Kiddo...... you are okayoH!!
Manchester United 0 Celtic 120
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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I find myself facing the prospect of Wednesday's game, with a mixture of anticipation and trepidation!
I feel that WGS has some big decisions too make, but I suppose that is what he gets paid for!
I hope that if we do get gubbed on Wednesday, then the up-till-now-pretty-quiet doomsayers, will not come out saying "I told you so".
If that scenario does play out, (getting gubbed), then it will be time for everyone to get behind the team and manager!
Leave any post-mortem till the CL gruop stages have finished!
For what it is worth, I feel that if we get anything from the two ManU games, will be a very welcome and unexpected bonus!!
C'MON THE HOOPS!!
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Paul
The Celtic Undergrounds' "Start the Week", is claiming that Seanaldinho will sign a five year deal, which will be announced within the next couple of weeks.
Any info??
They also mention something about a well kent website type chappie, as having his day in court soon!!
I wonder who that could be, hmmmm!!??
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I'm sure I've posted this before.
In the old days, when the only footage you could see of many, many games came from the Celtic Film Unit, supporters' clubs used to put special events on and show matches.
Bobby Lennox came to introduce one of these and said to the assembled throng: "Every time a Celtic team goes out onto the park, I expect it to win."
Me too wee man. It's the Glasgow Celtic way. Optimism.
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Ghordon's first decision for Wednesday night...
Who is to be the wind up merchant on Shrek Rooney? Odds on Rooney lamping Lennon or Graveson?
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Stevie S @ 2.46
a wee "tactical" suggestion....
if Rooney is playing "in the hole" stick Lenny on him as a man-marker.
Yes? No?
Just what I was thinking. I also believe that Lenny's 'nuisance value' could work well too. If that boy Rooney gets frustrated enough, he tends to do silly things. Referee-wise, he's already collecting a bad name in Europe, so it might work well for us.
Must admit too, that when all's said and done, Man U are still a good team and any points collected against them in this group will be a bonus.
Now for the controversial bit, because I know how he is revered... Because of that then, any small chance we get, we need to make it count. McGeady can't afford to be wasting balls up front. I counted at least twice on Saturday, chances when he should have released it when other players were free.
I don't think we can afford NOT to play him, (Double Negative? Aye, Right!) since his overall game has improved dramatically, but he needs to know that he WILL definitely be hooked if he wastes any more chances. Especially now that Maloney is coming back to fitness, and Riordan is waiting in the wings.
Naka will come good, it's Europe after all, not Kick&Rush, 10 men behind the ball SPL. That's the kind of player who CAN open up defences.
I'd still go 4-4-2 though. Miller & JVOH up front. McGeady, Graveson, Lennon, Naka in the middle, the usual back four & 'keeper.
My head says defeat, my heart says win, so I'll go for a happy medium... 1-1 draw (which I'll be more than happy with)
Fellow band-member is a Man U season ticket holder and is going to the game, so it'll be a long journey up to gig in Peterborough on Friday if we don't get a result.
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Parkheadcumsalford
"It seems we only get tagged with them in Scotland."
Too true - outside Scotland Celtic are loved and welcomed worldwide. But in this sad little country we are the team to hate. I wonder why.
In last years CL Rangers were playing in a group match when I was coming out of the Student Union to catch the train. A Rangers fan was walking in front of me and the ticket guy asked him the score. The Rangers fan told him and asked if he supported Rangers. The ticket guy replied:
"I don't really follow football, I just hate Celtic."
It's just typical of our sad little country and sums up our pathetic society.
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Parkheadcumsalford
"It seems we only get tagged with them in Scotland."
Too true - outside Scotland Celtic are loved and welcomed worldwide. But in this sad little country we are the team to hate. I wonder why.
In last years CL Rangers were playing in a group match when I was coming out of the Student Union to catch the train. A Rangers fan was walking in front of me and the ticket guy asked him the score. The Rangers fan told him and asked if he supported Rangers. The ticket guy replied:
"I don't really follow football, I just hate Celtic."
It's just typical of our sad little country and sums up our pathetic society.
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Celtic soccer crew are apparently legends in their own lunch time. Celtic soccer crew indeed ,it will be casuals next fgs.
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My dear friend Plato,
Hope, is forra Dope!
Hope? No such a woid, bud.....
Win, Win, Win, Win.......!
To say Win, isnae a Sin!
GWAN! SAY IT!
As we ADJURE....over and over...
Always.... OPT for OPTIMISM!!!
Manchester United 0 Celtic 140
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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Malone19. I fear that Celtic are not liked in many parts, mainly those clubs who have right wing chappies attached.
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Blantyrekev
This may be useful, the last option looks good!
Piccadilly Gardens
Salford quays
CATB
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Al Obundy
I suppose in England there is a lot of anti-Celtic sentiment. Especially at clubs like Chelsea. Then there is a large group who I think may be jealous at the size of our club.
But across Europe?
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Cities on flame with Rock and Roll,#236.
Peterborough.
Miketw10-are you in Simply Red?`¬)
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Kojo
Welcome back!!
Have you any info on Maloney's new contract??
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WE CANT GO FOR A DRAW
We have a team capable of beating anyone on their day.
Very attack minded players all over the place... apart from the skipper, the goalie, and Mick, we have players that are all capable of springing attacks..... even saw Caldwell drive the full length of the pith and end up in the opposition box on Sat.
SO WHY DEFEND?
Attack is the bet form of defence.
For the first time we have a genuinely young fast and fit team.
I was sick of being too slow to punnish teams on the break in the MON years.
We were the easyest team in the competition to play against. If all the players were fit then we knew who would play and how they would play. We were out smarted by teams that shouldnt have been able to compete with us...
now its our turn...
ATTACK!
3-1 to the bhoys! (a-la the Amsterdam arena!)
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I know we shouldn't bother about who the pposition field. However, there have been indications that Ronaldo is suspended and Carrick is out for Wednesday - anyone confirm this?
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Hopefully Bobo's fit, I would play Caldwell, who had a craker of a game on Saturday, in midfield.
_____________Boruc______________
Wilson___Bobo___McManus___Naylor
____________Caldwell____________
_Naka_______Gravesen_____McGeady
________Miller_______Jan________
I really cant see any alternative to Caldwell in the middle, Lenny hust hasn't the pace at the top level anymore, he freely admits he has adjusted his game to sit back and read it more now which isn't enough in the CL, we cant afford to give Rooney or Scholes any space in the middle, they will punish us bad for it.
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malceye- that is confirmed on both counts
Ronaldo is suspended as a result of his gestures to Benfica fans when they ripped him to bits in the last game for man u last year.
Carrick has a knee injury that will keep him out for 10-15 days acording to the BBC and the man u website.
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I think Ronaldo is supended because of his good ole middle finger salute to the Benfica fans when he was being subbed last year in Portugal
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Anyone know if the "Imperial War Museum (north)" is within walking distance of Old Trafford?
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My dear friend, Plato...
Surprised at the question...
Pierre has already toldya,last time oot......re Molly's new loot, there's nae chance o'the negos bein' moot....and that's withoot a doot!
Everything in the garden is comin' up roses!
There is some noos about the Distant(?) January sales....
There is some biz abornin' for the New year's mornin'.
But that is for another time.
Foist ting's Foist...!
Celtic will make the Sweet Sixteen...!
As Fargo has misquoted, many a time....
"So it is Written...So it shall be done!"
Manchester UNTIED 0 Celtic 178
Hail! Hail!
Kojo.
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parkheadcumsalford, monteblanco,
thanks.
Strangely Old Trafford does not hold the same fear and trepidation for me as other European venues, depsite Man U's clear advantage in quality over other teams that have beaten us. I think this is the familiarity factor, we are not going into the unknown.
And how many of the hacks who slated WGS, Celtic and the players now consider the advantage gained, particularly by McManus in withdrawing from the Scotland squad, in playing in a full house at Old Trafford at the end of last season?
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DBBIA...
No mate, wish I was, then I'd get a bit more attention from the wife.
No, I'm with this lot tomorrow and this lot on Friday.
In the second lot, we actually played the Kerrydale Suite last November. Now I can boast that I've played at Celtic Park...
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Malone19: across europe, I believe we are pretty well recieved in most places. There is the exceptions ie Hamburg. Some of the right wing groups who attach themselves to clubs are in contact with the likes of Chelski and Linfield etc, they obviously get a distorted view of our club from these morons. This was clearly evident at the Chelski game where right wing nuts travelled from near and far to vent their bile.
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Ronaldo suspended Carrick out injured Rooney sent off for whacking big Mick, this game just gets easier and easier, 4-3-3 formation :} .
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Paddy (3.57) - I don´t think it is a true or fair reflection on what we achieved in the MON years to say we we were the easiest team to play against. Our line-up might have been predictable but our results and performances were mostly commendable. Larsson, Agathe, Petrov, Sutton, McNamara were full of running and pace wasn´t bad either. We might not have been spectacular but it is a great disservice to the team to suggest it was slow and one-dimensional. Remember Lyon? Remember Juventus? Remember Blackburn? Liverpool? Barcelona? Of course you do, don´t let the final season take away from the glorious performances of the previous three years. We were good, damn good.
Hail, Hail
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Great news that Ronaldo is suspended!!
That is one major threat removed!
Now, if only Rooney, Saha and Scholes, get struck down by a mystery bug!!........................................
Thanks for your positive reply, Kojo!!
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denia bhoy- dont get me wrong
i re-read my comment and realise it came out wrong, that period was THE time for me. I have never been more proud of the team at any other time in my life.
But we were VERY predictable.
I just want to see us do what we did then....we were not fast and we were not the greatest indeviduals in europe (Larsson exception) but we were a great team that made others sit up and take notice.
We played to our strengths.
But our strengths are vastly different from that era.
We are young fast and agile, and very much a flare team, not a big strong side, that bullied teams, and were masterfull at setpieces
is that better explained?
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Jan Venneghonk of Hessilghonk
Going....going...Ghonk
The sellikghonk is The Lost Story of Lisboa and I need answers
WimGhonk
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Mancs 1 Ghonks 3
WG
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100
Round Ya Noel :o)
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we cant come quick enough for me.
workin the next day so hope i dont celebrate too much......
Man U 1 - 3 Celtic
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that should read "wed cant come quick enough" ....
soz
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Paddy - whew! I couldn´t believe you were sweeping aside our best team in 30 years as easy to beat so clarification appreciated.
I hope as this season develops we see a mix of MON and GS´s two styles. Youth and speed mixed in with aggression and spirit. The Bobos and Gravesens of this world are absolutely required at places like Ibrox and CL games where a bit of bullying is essential in order to get a result. Likewise a strong and tall presence at free kicks is a glorious asset. How many times was it the crucial difference for us in tight games? A Sutton, Mjalby, Hartson or Balde header and suddenly we were on top. Predictable it might have been but it was great to know we had a good chance of scoring every time we got a corner or free kick around the box.
I have a lot of hope in how the current team might progress over the coming months but I don´t think it is good enough (yet) to go out and ATTACK at Old Trafford with abandon. Playing it tight, harrying, cajoling, running after lost causes, snarling, nipping, harrassing are the types of things that get the underdog a result at Old Trafford. Let us do to them what lesser teams occasionally do to us - sometimes the team with the most fire in their belly, the team that want victory more than anything else can beat the odds. I remain to be convinved that GS can instill these magical qualities in our team - qualities he in fact possessed in abundance as a player.
Here´s hoping . . .
Denia
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Ferguson's Press Conference
"I know Warssons gone, but Celtic still have a gweat team. Nakamuwa, Wiordan, Gwavesen, Jawosik, Wennon, Bowuc. So we'll have to be pwepawed".
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btw, Paul cheers for responding to the post on Friday evening regarding the boards shameful George Bushesque thirst for control over the use of our, sorry their crest.
And 1 other thing, P8ddy, read your post in response to;
At 5:33 PM, p8ddy said…
Addis Abbaba said...
Regarding Socialism, Capitalism and Cuba, wanted to say excellent post, very well written.
(Did you know that Cuba have been sending doctors all over the world to the worst areas, the areas others wouldnt go to, they have sent more doctors to India, Africa and parts of the Caribbean after tropical disasters than any other country in the world, and that Cuba offered to send a load of doctors to America, and bring their own aid and equipment after the floods, and the request was ignored...)
The Daily Ireland posted an excellent post on Cuba a month or so ago, well worth a read (before it heart breakingly closed!)
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RE Celtic Soccer Crew, anybody who went to the games around the mid 80's must remember them..started off as about 40 boys jumping around with Celtic/Man U/Everton/Liverpool ski hats on.
Progressed onto pastel pringle jumpers etc.
They were the Celtic casuals and were never accepted by the main body of the support (who by the way were quite happy to have gang fights at the back of the Celtic End..remember that?)..I was never into it myself and scorned them for giving the club a bad name, In hindsight I have to say we were a bit harsh on them because us "normal" fans were getting chased all over Aberdeen, Motherwell etc. when we could have left it to the casuals to batter each other.
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Celtic First, Kojo, glad you liked that one.
My Italian football informants tell me that new Juventus centre half, J.A. Boumsoung, made an “incredible mistake”, costing a goal in their 1-1 draw against Rimini in the Italian second division.
Hmmm.
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thats ok Denia,
I just meant that, as much as we knew exactly what the lads would give us...the opposition new the exact same.
We are going into a game not knowing what the team will be, the tactics or the formation....so neither will they...
its up to us to use that to our advantage....
I think Caldwell in the holding roll with the skipper is a great shout. Gravesen playing further forward like sunday and Naka and Aidinho on the sides, Jan would be great for set pieces, but one upfront is what miller was made for. Its his game.
This is all dependant on Bobo coming back. the 2 wingbacks will have more space to bomb forward in support.
If not, big Jan and miller up front, would be my only change to the starting formation at Aberdeen.
Paddy.
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Paul67,
I reckon Wednesday when Miller breaks his duck. I expect him to take place of naka and have a 5 midfield with Jarosik coming in for Magic. Don't rule out a return of Bobo on Wednesday either.
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WGS
Though I will welcome Bobo back with open arms, I feel that this game has come a couple of weeks too early for him.
However, the thought of him putting ROOOO-NAAAYYYY, into Row Z, fills me with a perverse kind of satisfaction!!
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Stevies,
in a word no - Lenny is too slow to mark Rooney.
My team:
Boruc
Wilson
Bobo - probably not fit
Caldwell
Naylor
Aiden
Jiri
TommyG
Pearson
Naka
JVOH
With Kenny M coming on if Naka doesn't cut it.
I think Lenny is too slow for this level, McManus is potentially too rash , and I'd like the option of Jiri arriving late in the box with a bit of height to support big Jan.
Also Gary C has been excellent in the last 2 games and gives us much more of a football from the back option than Mick.
Score 1-1. Kenny M. late equaliser.
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Paul
I agree with you on this however with the euporia building up I may change my view at k.o.
I'm surprised at the number of fans who think Bobo and SM could start. Surely they cannot be match fit.
We really need someone to distract Wayne Rooney. It's a pity we did not sign a 60 year old hooker. (Sorry wrong sport,that's rugby!)
Ironically if ManU drop points their players will not be considered ManU class.
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Some of this will do:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=825959769359135311
At CL level you need to punish opponenets for mistakes, you need to take your chance(s) and you need to be lucky.
I just get the feeling that Celtic will enjoy being the underdog and not playing in the high pressured goldfish bowl of the SPL. I'll settle for a good performance.
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RE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FANTASY FOOTBALL
Just in case you missed it Carlo cocozza set up a league for all the CQNers.
Here is his post from yesterday.
At 2:03 PM, Carlo Cocozza said…
As usual with nothing better to do on a lazy sunday afternoon, I have set up a fantasy football league!
this is the official uefa.com champions league fantasy football featuring your favourite hoops!
you can also represent the Celtic fans, as you register the team you support and automatically go into a league with every participating Celtic fan worldwide.
my mini-league is "Paradise Bhoys" and the code is 51538-8848
register here: champions league fantasy footy
http://en.uclfantasy.uefa.com/M/home.mc
the Celtic players are the bargain basement in this one, but you can only have two, wilson and big Jan for me...
At 2:03 PM, Carlo Cocozza said…
As usual with nothing better to do on a lazy sunday afternoon, I have set up a fantasy football league!
this is the official uefa.com champions league fantasy football featuring your favourite hoops!
you can also represent the Celtic fans, as you register the team you support and automatically go into a league with every participating Celtic fan worldwide.
my mini-league is "Paradise Bhoys" and the code is 51538-8848
register here: champions league fantasy footy
http://en.uclfantasy.uefa.com/M/home.mc
the Celtic players are the bargain basement in this one, but you can only have two, wilson and big Jan for me...
Carlo Cocozza
I hope you don't mind me reposting that.
Come on everyone join up. Lets see who knows something(or very little) about football.
Or like Paul Elliot maybe you just talk a good game.
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Some of this will do:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=825959769359135311
I just get the feeling that Celtic will enjoy being the underdog and not having the pressures of the high-pressured goldfish bowl that is the SPL.
Man Utd have it all to do. We just need to make sure we throw away the script.
Give GS the chance to start his own European era.
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4:05 PM, Tommy Gravesen's Hair,
your team is by far the best ive seen today. nice one i agree and i reckon lennys gonna confirm what we all fear.....he just cant do it the same!!!!
not sportsman-like to get players sent off but i reckon rooneys fair game! he'll easily get excited at CP and especialy if lets say one of our balder players offers colleen a part in his wifes forthcoming movies? eh, eh, eh?
GENIUS!!!
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miketw10-I hope that the Holy Ground was bouncing to the sound of Boom-Chicka-Boom rather than the delinquent Mancunians..
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StevieS,
I was keeping the nerves at bay for wednesday until you offered the Lennon to man mark Rooney suggestion!!!
I'm hoping two things. first that your joking, and second that GS does not use this site!
Lenny should have been turfed long ago. His little fairy steps will be meat and drink to a hungry Rooney who has not played for a few games and will be biting at the bit.
Lenny is an arrogant drain on the wage bill and is one of the poorest captains we have ever had. At 35 it is criminal he is still part of the clubs plans.
Im enjoying the optimistic predictions on here, but football is a game of confidence and if we get spanked by an in form United side it could scupper the whole campaigne. For that reason alone
, I would like to see us play a negative ugly game and make them lose their composure because they have the potential to pull our pants down and give us a good 'ol public flogging from which we may never recover.
www.imnotusuallythishappycsc
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Danny
If you can't be ar$ed with Vennegoor of Hesselink try ----------- VENNEGOAL
Miller & Vennegoal up front is a must.
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************** Further Ghonk Sighting **************
Page 212 of One Afternoon In Lisbon by Kevin McCarra and Pat Woods
Willie Wallace is holding the ghonk by his left-hand side although if you didn't know he was holding a ghonk you wouldn't know it was there.
I am now convinced I am not insane (on this count anyway)but......
.....does anyone have Wispy's email address ?
WispyGhonk
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DBBIA
'Fraid it was the Delinquent Mancunians. We were introduced by none other than Andy Cameron himself.
It was a charity night though, so it was a good night all round. Must admit though, as a host, the employees at Celtic Park are not very good. Didn't even get so much as a cup of tea out of them.
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Wouldn't mind one of these on Wednesday...
And as keg says, it's a game of confidence.
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Does anyone have a copy of David Docherty's The Celtic Football Companion to verify the existence of The Lisbon Ghonk ? Page 161, the best foty of a sellikghonk you are ever likely to see.
WG
PS I will shut up about this when someone else acknowledges publicly that they have seen conclusive proof (as I have) that there was a ghonk in our team line up at Lisbon.
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WGS, Wednesday is too soon for Bobo.
Keg, that actually made me feel better. Let me do the same for you:
If we lose, so what? This is a game we do not need to win.
If one or more players are exposed, so what? Better learn a lesson in Manchester than at any other time.
Neil Lennon is 35, this is true, and he is not as effective as he once was. What is more, I hope he is forced out of the team this season by a bright prospect, but I am absolutely sure he will have an important role to play for us before May.
Chill, enjoy the victories, and appreciate the lessons and benefits defeats can bring you.
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Paul -
can we have a ghonkthread where I can argue with myself till kingdom come and stop annoying the The Gonk Disinterested ?
Had anyone heard of The Sellikghonk ?
Are we likely to have one with us on the mancunian turf on Wednesday ?
WednesdayGhonk
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mtw10-that's a pity,or you would have been a shoo-in to the K!CSC.
And then you'd have to call yourself mtw11..
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miketw10
me neither
think he will break his duck on wed.
HAIL HAIL
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I remember nothing of yesterday's sermon because I was thinking about the Ghonk of Lisboa and what has become of him and whether or not the wee sellikghonk could reasonably be described as male or female and why was Willie Wallace entrusted with his care and WHY WHY WHY was he on the park? Who did Wispy give the Ghonk to before the match started ? Did the Ghonk end up amid Ronnie's false teeth and become Gnasher Ghonk?
WG
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dontbratt -
Ghonkinfo ?
WG
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WG
Its not this that you're on about???
DBBIA
Took me a while, but got it eventually.8D Can I add a bit to yesterday's thread about favourite guitar solos? Going to anyway.
Mine is the 2 solos by Bill Nelson on 'Crying To The Sky'. Be Bop Deluxe - Sunburst Finish. That solo (2 parts of one) actually compliments and extends the lyric. You can tell his amps were up at 11 when it was recorded. I get goosebumps every single time I listen to it.
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keg at 5.46pm,
Your comments on Neil Lennon do you no credit whatsoever.
You may not like him or appreciate the job that he does, and you obviously don't, but it is an unarguable fact that Neil Lennon has been one of our most consistent players over the past six years.
He has been a vital part of a team that, but for one penalty and three fateful minutes, would have won six League titles in a row.
He has been one of the most important individuals who has ensured that Celtic have gone from being a club who were required to play in the qualifying rounds of the UEFA Cup to second seeds in the Champions League.
One day Neil Lennon will leave Celtic. Everybody does. When he leaves he can go with his head held high for few people have given as much to the Celtic cause in recent years.
Your comment that he is "an arrogant drain on the wage bill" serves only to show that you know absolutely nothing about the man.
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WG-I'd love to help out but the last I heard the Ghonk was in a tribute band called Moby Ghonk,playing in and out of Bakersfield,and Lodi.
He never really recovered from the end of his affair with Stevie Nicks.
He said he'd been used and abused by the flaxen haired temptress.He once spent 24 hours listening to'I'm your Puppet'by James and Bobby Purify.He'd just like to wash that gal right out of his hair but that's not so easy,when you're 100% covered in hair.
And now his life gets off at the stop after Lonesome..
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miketw10 -
Thanks but it's not
I'm even off my music because of this and am running late for The Mhonday Club in The Teser.
I have the feeling if someone else does not confirm the existence of The Lisboaghonk that we might not win on Wednesday night in manxville.
This is more than just about sellikghonks, ghuys and ghals.
This is about some of denying A Rich Part of The Lisbon Legend and The Lucky Ghonk who was evidently far far luckier than Michael, the Irish Wolfhound Mascot that was murdered by the mothers who will soon by relegated
hopefully
by
US
WishyGhonkster
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dontbratt -
Moby Grape ?
I thought that was a euphemism for heamarrhoids (sp?)
WG
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WG
I'm with you all the way on this my mhan, you know I am, but honestly
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I have the feeling if someone else does not confirm the existence of The Lisboaghonk that we might not win on Wednesday night in manxville.
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Were you guys not taught existentialism in philosophy? Did you skip straight on to theology?
We are the architects of our own destiny WG. Otherwise, we might as well be ghonks.
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You are going to drive me towards some flaked out tabloid hack who will confirm The Existence of The Portughonk when Fellow Celts have failed me.
It will be in some
Now You Know
section of a red-topped anti-Celtic rag as an answer to :-
Sirs -
I have tried without success to have confirmed the existence of a Celtic Ghonk as held by Willie Wallace (and shown to the late great Jimmy Johnstone) on the day our beloved club won the European Cup, a feat never equalled by the other driftwood that passes for football teams in Bonnie Scotland.
I have been particularly disappointed by the contributors to Celtic Quick News who singularly and collectively not only failed to confirm the tale but on many occasion SCROLLED DOWN rather than read about the Ghonklike Relic of Old Lisbon Town.
I await your barbed and anti-Celtic response together with a report on the imminent dissolution of Catholic schools.
WinninGemmell ML2
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Right On Ternar!!
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Celtic First
Ghonko Ergo Sum
WG
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4:06 PM, Paddy - where did you get the info on Carrick's injury - I can't find find anything?
5:59 PM, Paul67 - Paulo67 Coelho?
MU game - I can't wait. Without Ronaldo I don't see much flair on their right flank so it's going to be a very busy night on our right side. We could be facing Richardson, Giggs & also Saha loves to go into the inside left channel. I think Naka will struggle defensively with that but he is our best bet to string moves together & play keep-ball. Swap Naka & Aiden - with Aiden & Mark Wilson taking turns to force Giggs to backtrack at every opportunity?
Stephen Pearson beside/behind TG with a brief to follow Scholes?
Jan up-front with Kenny to start - we should look to get Jan into situations where the MU full-backs mark him (as some tried with us when Ross Wallace played at LB last year). Penalty spot crosses are a waste of time - vd Sar will take them all.
Back four picks itself. When Rooney drops into the hole Caldwell needs to go with him - if we drop off we are dead. Ajax were great at exploiting the #10 position but they were equally good at stoppinjg it. Danny Blind used to 'sweep' in front of the other defenders - frequently intercepting the pass or even denying the option.
Gordon provided the analysis at the WC when England laboured against Trinidad & Tobago. Basically when England were in possession the T&T front two covered the fullbacks & they left Ferdinand & Terry in possession. Result - utterly preduictable 'distribution'. I wonder if he will try something similar on Wednesday.
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Picture the scene.
We are travelling back from a good away result.
I am always the pessimist in our group.
During Rangers 9 in a row i was nearly always right.
Lately i have been wrong more than i am right.
We get into a heated discussion about how it will go in Europe.
We are about to face one of the biggest teams in the world.
Some say the biggest.
They are playing there best football in quite some time.
They are tearing teams apart,and scoring 4 and 5 a game at home.
I predinct that we will get beat by 5,6,or 7.
I predict this in all sincerety.
My mates think that i have lost the plot.
So i will stick with this forecast.
Bye the way the prediction was for the Barca game that we drew in the nou Camp.
Anything can happen if we play to our best, and our keeper has the game of his life,and they miss chances.
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Tinytim -
I KNOW I have the lost the plot and the Ghonk
WG
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Paul67,
Unaware if this has been mentioned by anyone yet, but I had occasion to be in the shopping centre of Kirkcaldy on Sunday and was amazed to see that the rangers shop that had been closed had suddenly been re-opened and was flogging dave's dodgy gear.
Is this a sign of trouble at the tills of JJB already?
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WG
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tinytim i didn't know you were a Man Utd supporter, but i think your team might get a draw if they are lucky.
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Ardoch
Who The F~~~ are Man United?
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Forgot to add - 'MU are red hot at the moment'.
EPL - played 4 & won 4.
They tonked Fulham first day of the season & reports were glowing (red presumably). Since then (without Rooney & Scholes) they have beaten Charlton & Watford away (they occupy positions 16 & 20 respectively with a combined 4 pts from 8 games). By all accounts MU were then very fortunate to beat Spurs at the weekend. They now welcome back two great players who have played 2 EPL games between them this season & they miss Ronaldo who has played in all 4.
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tinytim
Am I confused or what? Initially my take, with a wife and two daughters rabbiting away beside me, was that you take us for a tanking this week. Now I think the predicted hammering was in fact the Nou Camp - yes?????
EDB
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OK ghuys and ghals
Consider this AN ULTIMATUM
I am venturing to The Teser for a few well-merited pints. On my return I confidently expect
A GHONK RESPONSE
All it takes is for one of you to dig out the Celtic Football Companion, turn to Page 161 and study the bottom picture. There you will find ASSORTED LEGENDS of The Celtic Persuasion.
One of these legends, the Australia-loving Willie Wallace is holding a strange looking object. Please describe this item. It was one of the last things Wispy held before he held The European Cup which no-other club in Scotland (including the relegation-favourite mothers) has won.
I will return to this when in a suitably inebriated condition after I have read
The
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WetherspoonboundGemmell
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DBBIA/Wg
Moby Grape..they certainly knew how to name bands then ...what about Iron Butterfly...perhaps the Ghonk is in a Gada da Vida ?
Going going ghonkcsc
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We'll beat the mancs on Wednesday and the Gunners will rub it in on Sunday.......
......hmmmm
back to The Ghonk I think....!
WishinGoonerghonk
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Some wee team in england tinytim.
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El Diego Bhoy.
Thanks God You're here again
You're strong man.
I'm realy excited before Wednesday. This will be the first strong test for Boruc. One month ago I could would Celtic success, but now? who knows?
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Cubist Funk i referred to Crearand and Macari as plastic tims not because of what they said but because i feel they are only Celtic fans when the occassion arises eg the last time we where in England .
With regard to Wednesday i think we can win. Watford and Spurs made chances against Man Utd we will as well.
Naka's pass over the top to Miller in the Inverness game is just the type of ball that can cause any team damage.
Gravesen has added what we've missed so much in the abscence of Maloney...Drive.
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el diego bhoy, despite my rant the other night about posh tickets for OT, the fates have looked upon me kindly and a posh ticket has found its way into my grubby peasant mitts :-)
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zbyszek
My friend. What have I done to deserve such praise? Anyway I've been a strong Roxy Music fan for many years, probably I'll recieve grief from the guys on here for admitting that! I also enjoyed Country Life very much but enjoyed STRANDED a little more.
Where will you see the game on Wednesday?
EDB
P.S. I do not understand why Artur is not NT goalkeeper.
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Why can't we get a resutl against Man U on wednesday? They have only played well once this season and that was 4 weeks ago after going 3-0 up in 15 minutes.
On saturday against a pretty average looking spurs side they were there for the taking, especially from crosses into the box.
I'll be very very surprised if we don't play 4-4-2 with Miller asked to run his socks off as the first line of defence. Our first 11 picks itself until Jarosik, Balde and Maloney return to full health and fitness.
If we play defensively we will invite one of the most dangerous teams in europe on top of us. If we play to contain but compete using our own weapons we have a chance of a geting result.
Naka, Graveson and big Jan were bought for these games. It's time to let them loose
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Meant to say...
put yourself in Macari and Crerands shoes, what would you say?
Exactly what they are coming out with. They are employed by Man U, they are comparing Rooney with Miller, Ronaldo with McGeady, Ferdinand with McManus.
What would you say?
Of course, we know better!
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Edmoondo
Hmmmmmmmmm. Are you deserving? As it happens my precious ticket popped through the letter box the day after your "rant" and I'm happy to say I have now passed it on to a fellow CQNer recently returned from abroad for a very short break.
See me, seenicetobenicetonicetoCQNmates.
EDB
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i think Im deserving el diego as Im a good person, does the CQNer in question need a lift? i have space in my car.
I think my rant was justified by the way.
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its been a wee while since i posted, but gee whiz, the nerves are starting already, the guys at work are smiling, the good lady is looking forward to seeing stan ?????(havent the heart to tell her) im just going to say he shaved his head.....
i agree with you paul, if we lose, its not the end of the world, so it is a no loser situation, but i dont think it is for WGS,
huge dilemnas for the wee man, if venny doesnt get signed, we play 1 up front, now its different,
i want him to show some gumption and play miller up front ALONE, and then bring on magic and venny,
i totally believe he will play 5 in midfield, but what 5 ???? lenny, tam, aidean, pearson, naka or jiri,
our esteemed manager has many choices, i hope he is strong, but he deserves the right to pick his side for the moment, but that wont please some,
my young lad has been an avid man u fan since cantona, we watch all the man utd games we can, and we both believe that only 2 players can make the difference, giggs, and shrek, can wgs play naka on the right, with giggs being a huge threat, ????
one thing we both believe is that young wilson will be a match for him, (this is the coming of age, for him, the night he is suddenly worth 5 mill) if he could hold robben, he can hold giggs,
as for shrek, we both believe he is the best player in the world, just our opinion, so what do you do ???? lenny at his fastest couldnt get close to shrek, i was amazed the day he caught henry !!! the boy has some engine, even if he looks heavy, so for once i/we cant see how you stop him, but with ronaldo out, the threats are limited, so we have a chance, WE HAVE A CHANCE, cos we are celtic, we all know we have a chance,
ach just play 442 and go for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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el diego bhoy - you're on the money with STRANDED, more "pop" than Country Life.
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EDB you must know why, for sure.
Good news are that Polish National TV decided to show this game live. So they admire Celtic and our countryman.
Why Boruc is not our NT goalkeeper? To be honest with you I realy don't know. It's actually Flamish mish-mash. I can imagine what Boruc sais to himself after Borucgate and games without him in Poland. "They don't need me here , and they don't need me there, so it's time to proof and show what I'm worth" That's of course not to much serious devegation from me. But I think this could be the part of the truth.
To the music fans:
Did you see the clip of common concert of Eric Clapton, George Harison, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and others playing "Tulsa time"?
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Edmoondo
He's fine thanks but nice of you to offer. I wasn't having a go tonight btw, just a bit of fun. Have a great time irrespective of the result.
EDB
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no problem el diego, not looking forward to the drive down or back the same night though, but looking forward to the game. got a sense of forboding but excited too, bit like the night before a big ice climb.
dont know if Noel will see this but if your still desperate for a lift let me know.
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OttoKaiser
I actually liked the first Roxy album which may well have turned much of the record buying public of the day right off them. Struck a chord with me somehow.
EDB
P.S.
Just occured that if I didn't enjoy that one I wouldn't have listened to any more duhhhhhhhh. Nerves beginning to jangle - but not jingle jangle :o)
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For no reason that I can put my finger on I'm completely relaxed about Wednesday.
We're in the perfect position that no-one is expecting us to do well whilst we do have a number of players capable of causing Utd problems.
I'm consoled by the thought that Gordon Strachan has taken much worse teams to Old Trafford and not been embarassed
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Just wondering if anyone had a ticket and a helicopter that could come and pick me up from Southampton about five O'clock.
I would prefer a ticket for the Stretford end however, I'm willing to make do with a seat in an executive box.
As for the helicopter the R44 made by the Robinson helicopter company is my prefered mode of flight, as long as it's green of course.
Thanks in advance Mr A
Nearly forgot could you please get back to me within the next hour as I am expecting to be taken to the theatre tonight as someone is bound to be unable resist the invitation I placed outside the chemist's this morning.
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I put the lack of posts tonight down to everybody looking for the LisbonGonck (sp)
EDB
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Paul67-
I'm suprised by the negativity of your post......after all this time.........
you're really a closet mineshafter..........
TinyTim-
Shut it.........
or I will seek you out at Old Trafford and do you in.........
Monteblanco-
"This is what it is all about.
Forget being rational. We are gonny murder them. Allow yourself to believe that. We are gonny invade Manchester, show them what the Greatest Fans In the World are all about. Out sing, out dance and out shine anything they have got to offer. At Old Trafford the reds will be left wondering what hit them. First a wall of noise, then a mighty Dane followed by the flying Dutchman. They will be stunned and confused as Miller pulls them all roads. Half time will see Siwalex hastily regrouping to adopt a damage limitation exercise in the second half, so dont be too dissapointed if we only add 1 more goal to the three from the first half. Manchester doesnt know what is gony hit them.
Unleash hell Celtic!
Well said !
noel.upforitatOTCSC.
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mr angry
I'm kinda coming round to you. You're more a pussycat than an angry bear.
EDB
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Any chance Man Utd staying in the same hotel as Tottenham did before their last game of last season that would do nicely!
COME ON THE HOOPS YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO BE LEGENDS TAKE IT!
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hi paul fellow celts . imho the battle we must win is in the players heads . we are going down to manchester to play the second best team in england ,we played the best team a few weeks ago and did very very well .and make no mistake the lampards the terry,s the drogba,s they were all there and they were trying alright. we must take them on and our bhoys must remember WE ARE THE FAMOUS GLASGOW CELTIC .and dont allow themselves to become overawe,d we have the players , we have the support, do the players have the heart to get into them . if they do then we will succeed. and finally may i please ask our troops who are making the trip to manchester.to act in a manner befitting the club that we represent WE ARE THE G.F.I.T.W. lets PROVE IT ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT .hail hail and may god go with you bhoys.
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Now if These Bhoys had treated it as a learning exercise.........
Where would we be now.........?
noel.whobelieveswewillnotgetgubbedatOldTrafford.
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Noel;
Thanks for your input on Sat.
We were with friends at a special bash most of whom were Italian and the reception of your world cup final film was outstanding,as if the final whistle had again just been blown.
Thanks again
Now where did i leave that Ghonk?
JonG
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EDB
Cheers!
No enough of this idle banter as my theatre companion is about to arrive.
Pay Attention!
Pick up bowling green ST James Park at 5pm.
Will bring own sandwiches thank you!
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EDB
Cheers!
No enough of this idle banter as my theatre companion is about to arrive.
Pay Attention!
Pick up bowling green ST James Park at 5pm.
Will bring own sandwiches thank you!
9:30 PM
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My thomas cook itinerary lies in front of me av only read it a hundred times.
Still cant believe the luck to get a ticket. Thanks to this blog last weds night and to Polmikcfc in particular for the heads up re last minute tkts.
Leave Paradise 09.00
Arrive Old Trafford Stadium Manchester approx 1300
Personal itinerary kicks in,
head for China town eats and quaff a cold one.
Then al head to the Irish centre i think Charlie and the Bhoys are playing.
Then let the show begin.
If by some magic i meet you Polmikcfc i'll buy you a pint.
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mr angry
You're at the madam. I'll need to re-engage the brain.
EDB
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Can't be ersed reading every post so if it's been done already....sorry,
Good game, good game on celticunderground site
http://www.ewins.uklinux.net/cl2006/index.php?GRP=16
password - celtic
Have a go, it's worth a try.
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Terry O'Neill
Enjoy my friend.
EDB
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El Diego Bhoy you are cut from the same cloth as me. I know that you know what i'm feeling, thanks for that.
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EDB-personally think "Stranded" is/was one of the best albums ever produced.vastly underrated.
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erraTic, 6:59, no idea what that means for the JJB deal.
Noel90, rumours that I have a positive disposition have been greatly exaggerated.
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John_H
Good on you. One in the eye for the Kerrang mob :o)
EDB
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EDB
Ha ha!
See you at 5 on Wednesday!
Dont be late!
Mr A
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agree with Terry o Neil
Big thanks to Polmikcfc- another beer waiting for you in Manchester...
Any other cqners on thomas cook Bus 10?
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Wednesday will be a great opportunity for Aideninho to show SiWawex exactly what he missed out on. Perhaps too to put some £6-7m into our coffers next summer?
SB
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Terry O'Neill
Do you enjoy a cigar?
SB
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Ghonkdodgers -
we know who you are !
Vindicator - Arthur Lee
I'll be on Bus 8 or 9
probably studying a 1967 photo
Nite
WG whohaslotsmorereasonsthanmostforbeinganti-mancs
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WG
What would that reason be? If thats not rude to ask!
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In reality I'll probably be on Bus 240 - back to That Wishaw - for some perceived inaccuracy in the booking department. At the end of the day I wouldn't let me on one of their buses if I was Thomas Cook.
God Bless The Ghonk, Craigneuk, St Aidan's, The Jesuits, The Quality Street Gang, Kristin Scott Thomas, Arthur Lee and Real Ale; to name but some
WG
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Its now countdown time. Train at 7.30, a few red grenades and thereafter lagers in town. Then the game. Let's be honest, le's stop all this, we'll learn a lesson, its not so important stuff. That Twit Ferguson wants oh so badly to beat us. And the feeling is mutual. This isn't about beating Man Utd, its about stuffing it to that Old Sod whose love of his homeland (more particularly wasteland in Govan) grows by the day. COME ON THE BHOYS !!! (Although I might not shout that from the Stretford End)
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Mr Angry -
to more firmly fix the image of The Ghonk in my mind
- if you're on about the mancs -
because they've always reaped where they have not sown
aha -
the parable of the darnel SPRINGETH to mind
WG
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Swalex The Headbutter, Behated of The Craigneuk Bhoys
and always will be
forever
and ever
Amen
WG
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WG
I was at that game. I've disliked him intensely since.
EDB
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Yes you have a point.
Yeah, There was a time when the Brian McClair transfer left a bad taste in the mouth.
what was it £700,000?
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