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Hi all
Has anyone been to see this show? if so can you recommend it?
On Our Way To Lisbon
'This is a two man play with a cast of thousands.' Mail on Sunday
On Our Way to Lisbon tells the story of how, in 1967, Glasgow Celtic became the first British team to win the European Cup with victory over the mighty Inter Milan.
Two fans look back and fondly recreate how the Bhoys in Green and White beat the hardest team in the world and draped Europe in green, white and gold.
The whole mad and magnificent campaign comes to life as the two supporters become everything from a vicious Swiss football team to the entire population of Lisbon!
Put on those scarves, dust off your passport, and come with us as once again Celtic steam-roll over the best teams in Europe to become the immortal Lisbon Lions.
'A goal by goal account of Celtic's victorious run. Enjoy the memories!' The Scotsman
On Our Way to Lisbon
King's Theatre Edinburgh
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1st? surely not
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Questions for the board ;
1. Investigate the dissolution of the alcohol ban for Football matches. The law is from 1981 , official secrets get released earlier. The Times have moved on. If the English clubs can do it so successfully so can we. Drink problems are down to binge drinking before a game. Man.U should be the bench mark for this. Their alcohol sale methods are second to none.
2. Any chance of redevelopment around Parkhead? Tarmac the coach park would be a start. Some small facilites around the outskirts of the ground would be helpful (toliets etc.). Future development of outer concourse(s) (superbar theory) like boltons reebok stadium for example are they on the agenda? If no funds or plans are forwith they should be acted upon to improve our image. Rundown areas around the grounds outskirts do the club a diservice. Revenue can be made if more amenities are availible in the vicinty of the ground. To Cut a long ramble short is there plans for a Celtic Village.
P.S. On Snspix , there's a few pics of Lennoxtown taking shape , under this weeks photos.
CLICK HERE
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Lets here it for the bhoy
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podium?
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Hi Paul,
What do folk think on Bobo Balde, will he improve the defence if played or does the current team style rule him out?
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hoopsterhammy67 - say the play last summer at the Kings in Glasgow, pretty good. No great suprises in it, but well done.
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Edward,
Keep your hands off our centre-halves.........just because your centr-halves are mince doesn't mean you can come sniffing round ours ;-))
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Have to agree, Paul. I feel the workrate and form of Naka has also contributed to a comfortable return for the Telf.
Many apologies Murdy ;-)
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hoopsterhammy67
yes, i saw it in belfast a wee while ago. loved it and would recommend it.
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TheLeftWinger :- While I enjoy a plate of mince as much as the next man I do wish our centre halfs were a bit more meaty :-) I do have to admit it's probably the biggest area of worry in the team a good defensive centre inspires confidence in the rest of the team where just now cross balls tend to cause panic.
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EdU-if you think,assuming the default formation is 4-4-2, the strength of the team is along the spine then you would want a settled pair of centre halves,a settled pair of central midfielders,and a settled pair of strikers.
Caldavaro and Mick are playing well,barring injury or suspension BB might find it difficult to get back in.Similarly,and perhaps more surprisingly,supposing the Skipper and young Sno look to be playing really well together then Gravesen may have to wait his turn.Upfront Highlife and JVH are the #1 pair,so I think Majic will make way there,unless he finds a rich vein of form again.
The other parts of the jigsaw include:
John Kennedy[d.v.]makes a full recovery.He is a better footballer than BB,and may fit our new,less robust playing style.
BB,like A.Thompson,is on big money.Bidding him farewell would get the wagebill down,which may be important if Shaunaldinho stays,and becomes a big earner;or if he goes and we have to fund a replacement.
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p8ddy
Given your definition from the last thread 'non-sectarian' would have sufficed then!
Celtic are a football club open, as you rightly say, to everyone, but Celtic are known for the fact that their supporters are of predominately RC origin. Blethering on about ethos I have no doubt makes you feel like the thinking man moving among us - influencing us here - putting us right there - but any Celtic supporters I've met wouldn't know a 'non-sectarian ethos' if it bit Derek Johnstone on the a**se!
Would you be comfortable amongst us Edward? I bet you wouldn't - nor I amongst you my friend!
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EdwardUrsus
On Bobo, not sure but if he could improve the Celtic rearguard but he would undoubtedly improve your teams (hypothetically speaking only) ;-)
On the AGM, someone mentioned the merchandising issue at pre-season games. At the Chivas game (in NY) there was very no official presence on that front, real opportunity missed as there were about 10,000 Celtic fans present. Many of the fans were family groups, who would be the target market!
Otherwise, can't really complain the way things are right now.
Hail, hail.
Sin é SK.
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from the last blog.....
my tuppenceworth for the AGM... if one of you shareholder types could put forward comments on behalf of a mere fan then that would be greatly appreciated ;-D
1. Sign Shaun Maloney
2. What is the plan for progressing to a debt free position? I completely agree interest payments are a waste of scarce resouces.
3. Linked into 2. Are we considering alternative ventures to speed up this process, as opposed to simply paying back the debt through end of year profit? Again, I put forward proposals for the complete redevelopment of the Celtic 'Superstore' (too small, generally mince), acquisition of the primary school at the entrance to Kerrydale Street, acquisiton / development of some form of licenced drinking area adjacent to the ground (why on earth do third party pubs make a fortune from us when the ordinary punter should be able to enjoy a pint within the stadium concourse - but not inside the stadium - knowing that all profit from the said pint is going directly to the club??????). Strathclyde Police / Council Licencing excuses are not sufficiently acceptable.
4. What is being done to dovetail the development of Celtic Park with the development of the National Sports Area at Parkhead? Specifically, improved access to the stadium, parking, public transport, decent walkways etc.
Here endeth the rant.........
SurveyorCelt
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Big Liam
Plans are afoot to develop areas round about the ground.
Work has already started at the old Belvidere hospital in London Rd. (Belvidere Village)
A new sports centre is to be built on the spare ground at Springfield Rd/London Rd.
and if the commenwealth games are awarded, then the whole area will be transformed within the next few years.
I certainly hope it happens, as the whole area has been sadly neglected, over the decades.
Lets hope the transformation on the park, can also continue.
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i've made my feelings know at length on the SM situation so i'll leave that for know, but i'll just make a couple of points
I dont see how a celtic poker room is anymore controversial than the celtic credit card which has been around a while
on the subject of sponsership, first of all, I may be worng but I'm led to believe that barca are actually paying UNICEF for the privilege of putting their name on the shirt(a donation of approx 1.3m euros) cynics have indeed suggested that it is a ploy to allow a smooth handover to a corporate sponser. only time will tell but regardless it is a fantastic gesture which gives great exposure to a charity, even if for the wrong reasons it is still right, if you get what i mean
as for our sponser, there may well be a casual link between alcohol sponsership and the abuse of alcohol by minors. a far more obvious cause is that all walks of society are out getting blootered from an early age, this is the example minors follow, far more so than the name on a football shirt, very few of these miners are drinking carling
of course most would prefer not to use alcohol sponsership but most celtic fans(myself included) will sacrifice some ethics(assuming nothing illegal or deragotary) in the pursuit of maximum income to give the best team possible. what i have wondered is considering our continued success over our glasgow rivals, high-profile worldwide tours, and said rivals sanctions for anti-catholicism, why can we not attract an individual sponser on a bigger contract than the joint carling one?
on a completely different change of topic, their are a good few lads heading out to lisbon on monday with me on monday. i informed them off the plan for the jungle boys banner and what had happened, and posted a pic of the predicted banner taken from a link on the last article. one of my mates who has excellent spanish(not portuguese as he admits) replied with this
" By the way- don’t want to be pedantic, and I admit I only speak Spanish, not Portuguese, but to my eye that text on the back of the short looks like an extremely cringe-worthy attempt to translate “You’ll Never Walk Alone”. It looks like they have just opened a dictionary and picked it out word-by-word, which of course simply does not work and is the cardinal sin of translation. I reckon what they have ended up with actually means pretty much: “You intention never walked only”. But then I could be wrong- maybe Spanish and Portuguese are less similar than I thought! If you know the lads involved I would ask them to run it past someone Portuguese to get the proper way of saying it as if I’m not wrong and it is indeed Double Dutch then (a) people in Portugal will have no clue what it means and certainly won’t get “You’ll Never Walk Alone”, and (b) their good gesture is in danger of being viewed as confused and cringeworthy rather than a heartfelt good gesture."
of course it would be too late to change as im assuming it was made long ago but any portuguese speakers confirm that translation?
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Kitalba
In the last thread you state
Just wanted to remind you that Celtic is a PLC.
I remember asking someone in Thailand who a picture of John Lennon was. His answer was that he was a foreigner´! He was right as well.
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More questions or point's to put to the board.
1. Sort the ball boy's out. They all sit next to each other, either behind the goal, or along the touch line, they are too close and If the ball goes out around the corner flag there's not a ball boy near enough.
2. Can we no get they fancy advertising boards, the electronic ones, Team's in Spain have also some In Engalnd, I'm sure I even saw them at Wisla Krakow stadium.
3. When the guy's reading out the team's, could the big screen's not show a clip of the player? ie
Boruc making a wonder save
Miller scoring against Rangers
McGeady skinning a player
Telfer ??? I'll get back to you on that one. (JOKE calm down)
I know these are small point's, and It's changed day's that there Is no real talking point's to be brought up at the A.G.M.
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P8ddy from previous blog...
"We pollute the environment, we exploit the weak, and all the while we put off fixing it until we've made our own little pile of cash.
Wow! What a line! Hats off to you sir! You could write a great song round that one! Seriously! John Lennon would've been proud of that one!
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Paul...
"Paul Telfer has not improved as a player, but the movement, options and cover around him has."
That's the point I was trying to make in a previous blog. Thanks for putting it a whole lot better!
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http://www.blogger.com/profile/9882337
don't understand your point sir
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ANNAOAN,
Aplogise.
Don't understand your point sir.
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smell_the_glove_once_again
As far as I'm aware someone from the Jungle Bhoy's got a translation from a portuguese person. Even down to putting accent's above certain letter's to make them present tense & not past tense or future tense. Or vice versa. But as far as I'm aware they changed the wording a few time's in acordance.
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Paul Telfer brings me nicely to yesterday when I attended (thanks to CQN and the Godfather) -
'Dinner with WGS' and other Celtic Icons.
Excellent day at Celtic Park with Tom Boyd, Darren Jackson, Tosh McKinlay, Bertie Auld, Joe McBride, Bobby Lennox and Stevie Chalmers all in attendance along with Gordon who answered questions from the audience for a while.
Too many stories etc to mention, Gordon was excellent imho - showing his beliefs and ambition for Celtic whilst displaying his distaste for journalism in this country.
Couple of crackers -
Paul Telfer played on Saturday with a fillet steak in his boot (an old trick for those with injuries apparently) to mask the pain.
In response to a question on January transfer targets Gordon claimed to have 'about 35' and at least 3 for each position.
On the reserves / youth policy he said that while we have great teams / great units we don't have many great individuals (he did mention Grant / Ferry and Cuthbert) and complained that we are too weeeee.
Great day.
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Kitalba
My point is sir , that Celtic is a plc. You are correct of course. It was also once a charity organisation. For me Celtic is a way of life and a philosphy. More than a football club is how the catalonians label their own beloved club. If your view is that Celtic is a public limited company nothing more amd nothing less then with the greatest respect and no insult is intended here, then you are ignorant similar to the Thai laddie who was completely unaware of who John Lennon was and called him a foreigner. "just another white boy" Both right but both WAY WAY of the mark imho. If you catch my drift. If you dont then please no insult is intended.
Hail Hail
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anyone know why mr miller was known as Ken Miller on the big screen on saturday?
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Let's be honest,not long after Bro Walfrid left the Club it's ethos became much less altruistic;in fact it's not an exaggeration to state that the driving force behind professional football in Scotland was Celtic.What is also not in doubt is that the altruism of the Club's founders has been carried on,in many instances on an unofficial basis,by the supporters.The banners of the JungleBhoys are a case in point.The support are the keepers of the Flame;the watchers of the Soul-the Board are the hoarders of the Biscuit tin,willing to lie down with the likes of Nike,and Coors.
The Board are clearly intent on chasing every source of income,with varying degrees of success and competence.Suppose the big Nike deal had gone to the plucky wee team from the other side of the river-the bogpapers would have loved that.
What may be possible cf Barca,is for the Club to approach UNICEF with a view to shirt sponsorship when the current deal is due for renewal.The problem with Carling are not only with the nature of the product but the fact that the parent company,Coors,are in many ways the unacceptable face of capitalism.
On a happier note,I was talking to someone who works at St Joe's in Dumfries yesterday.He says'hundreds'of people come every year to visit Bro Walfrid's grave.
Mas un club...
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Smell the glove I think the guys changed the wording as this was pointed out so it may be a down level picture you saw. They passed everything by Benfica and some sort of fan group to make sure it was ok.
P8DDY im dissapointed you used children in the last blog to try and get a point over about gambling. Never in anyones wildest dreams can these 2 be talked about in the same breath. And that is the last I will talk about it as I dont want to get dragged into an arguement on what is acceptable to people as that is not to ANY sensible person.
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dontbracttbackinanger,
I've always thought that the founding ethos of Celtic was a fundamentally conservative one (not leftwing as many fans seem to think).
What is more conservative than ecclesiastical charity? The church doing the work of the state?
Margaret Thatcher would surely have approved...
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TMC-in the early days of the Tour de France the riders would put a nice piece of raw steak down their shorts to cushion their gusset as they toiled up and down the Pyrenees.At the end of the day they would present the nicely tenderised[and seasoned!]steak to the local chef to cook it for supper!
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apesanteur
I've sat among Rangers supporters at Ibrox many times and felt no more or less uncomfortable than I have done at Celtic Park. It all depends who is in your vicinity and how you perceive offensive behaviour.
But I can recommend it, especially if it's a game they lose :0)
Edward, maybe we could arrange some exchange visits to promote cross cultural understanding. I'm afraid in the current situation we'd get more pleasure out of it than your lot would.
I've never felt threatened at Ibrox, not even the time when my son, through thoughtlessness on my part, took his jacket off to reveal his Ajax away strip, the old green and white one. Might have been different if it had been the hoops I suppose, but even at ten he had enough sense not to wear them to Ibrox.
The only grounds I have felt uncomfortable in a threatened way among the home support have been Hearts and Motherwell.
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Paul
The team as a whole has improved this season. each department is doing their job.
All the work put in by Gordon Strachan and the players on the training ground, is for all to see during matches.
I have heard a few players commenting on this recently on Celtic TV.
I have never seen Neil Lennon looking fitter.
I would comment that I would like to have seen players who haven't had many games, being introduced in the recent games Falkirk and Motherwell. This would tie in with your point that is easier to introduce players when the team is winning.
I can understand his team selection. Although, you can train all week, but games are where you get your sharpness and fitness.
I appreciate the Celtic/WGS Masterplan. Exciting times ahead.
Here is an alternative Masterplan, look out for the animated swagger.
Alternative Masterplan
Heraldo
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ANNAOAN.
You have focused on one line in a post.
The point of that post was to point out to an earlier posters, who was alluding to possible deception, or out right lying, by the board of CFC.
The line you quote was the first line in a very brief explanation of the laws that govern the behaviour of PLCs’ in general and Celtic PLC and their office holders in particular.
It is not my view that Celtic is a PLC; the reality is that Celtic is a PLC.
What other alternatives do we have to progress in our existence as a football club other than being a PLC.
Of course we are more than that but that was never the point that I was attempting to communicate to a named poster.
Maybe on reflection you may think the choice of word, ignorant, to be somewhat inappropriate.
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DBBIA While I don't know enough about the players mentioned to give an opinion I agree with you that a settled strong spine running through the team is important, it allows a teams flair players to try the moves and tricks that can win games while hopefully intimidating the other teams flair players.
Lenny'sPRMhan :- I couldn't argue with that at all, it was thinking on a similar player (Marvin Andrews) who didn't fit in with the new style and playing philosophy at Ibrox that brought the question to mind.
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jackd
It is a very minor quibble but the positioning of the ballboys is something I've wondered about at times.
Why do 2 of them sit right behind the goals when that is the one place that the ball is almost guaranteed not to go? i.e. if the ball is heading towards them the net will stop it. Why aren't they positioned between the goals and the corner flags?
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Apesanteur :- Only if I wanted cured from a severe case of constipation :-)
Chennaiseabird :- While that would be a good idea in theory sadly I think it would be just asking for trouble.
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ItaliaB-agree 100% that the Church is conservative,but there have been many examples of priests and other clergy who have had a more liberal outlook.Bro Walfrid may have been one,and more recently in Latin America there developed 'liberation theology',in which priests working in the slums and barrios came into conflict with politicians and in some cases their own hierarchy.
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Kitalba,
I do not want to have a cyber battle over this as we obviuosly have differing opinions on this one. I think its a cheap shot to shoot down madmitch´s as simply a gloom and doom merchant. As I stated before most of his points are relevant and legitimate. So I read that post of yours and did not concur with it. While I am not stating that the board indulge in deliberate criminal behaviour I would state that negligent behaviour can be percieved as being just as criminal. Some people have longer memories and are less forgiving that is nature.
Celtic is a football club and a way of life for many. Sometimes "the watchers of the soul" of the club conveniently hide behind the machinations of "the plc" when failing to implement appropriate Celtic policy.
Would you prefer the word "naieve" or shall we just accept a differing of opinions in a civilised way on this one.
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martinobhoy
Agreed mate, anyway what would it cost to have another 3 or 4 ball bhoys? A few track suit's, and burger and juice at half time?
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Whilst we are being ethical - surely it would be fresh fruit and water at half time for the ball bhoys?
I think the two behind the goal are there for entertainment during old firm games - Henrik's chip in 6-2 was made all the more memorable by those two.
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martinobhoy
When Henrik chipped Klos during the 6-2 game much of my pleasure was derived from the antics of the ball boys behind the goal!
They also know they'll likely not be on the telly if they position themselves between the goals and the corner flag :o)
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TMC
Vale men thinking alike!
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thismancraig
That's true, the sight of the ball bhoys celebrating was great.
And your prob right about the half-time refreshment's, but i would have another 4, situated near the corner flags, and yes just leave the two behind the goals for comedy value. ha ha.
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Organically grown, free trade fresh fruit and recycled rainwater...?
(Taxi's order, hat and coat on way....)
G
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I hate Halloween.The whole trickortreat bollocks.
And Guy Fawkes.
Maybe CQN could provide extra volunteer ball bhoys.We could keep up a running commentary on the game,saying things to the players directly instead of sitting at work in front of a keyboard e.g. Shaun my son-when are you signing your new contract?
Telfmeister-we are not worthy!
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Awe Naw
Personally I prefer 'n-a-i-v-e'.
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TheBarcaMole said...
At 2:00 PM, thismancraig said…
Whilst we are being ethical - surely it would be fresh fruit and water at half time for the ball bhoys?
I think the two behind the goal are there for entertainment during old firm games - Henrik's chip in 6-2 was made all the more memorable by those two.................
Agreed, great entertainment........One of whom I believe was a young(er)David Marshall?
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Only mad dogs and Vale men...
Do we adopt ethical ball bhoys or implement operation Boavista...
No chance of returning the ball when ahead / return as many as possible when needing a goal?
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Peanutarse:-)
"naïve" would be more ethnically correct however
Is your real name Mrs. Donnelly taught at St. Kentigerns West Lothian circa 76-81 ? :-)
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ANNAOAN.
Your last post is more revealing.
You were not in fact taking issue with that particular line, but in my response to an earlier poster.
I can’t be bothered arguing the point, no disrespect but I’m up for work in just over five hours.
I’ll accept the differing of opinions.
But tell me ANNAOAN. If that child in Thailand had held up a picture of a local famous musician, and you couldn’t put a name to the face, would that have made you ignorant or just naive?
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El Diego Bhoy, thismancraig
Yes those two helped make that goal even better especially when you watch it on DVD with the camera behind the goal.
Their reactions as the ball sails over Klos then dips into the net are priceless.
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Edward, I do not think that Bobo will improve the defence.
Great in the air, but he does not like the ball at his feet (neither do I).
Sometimes your ‘best defender’ does not make it into your ‘best defence’.
Surveyorcelt, lots of developments to come between CP and London Road.
Cheers Miketw10.
Heraldo, agree on Neil Lennon. I could make an argument for saying that this is his best seasons at CP.
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Kitalba,
btw I agree with your 5 hour stance and it would take that long. It´s a pity that those that do get paid by and who work for Celtic in an official capacity take a similar stance.
A local famous musician - "John Lennon" !!!!!!
that´s the kind of rebuke I´d expect from BQ at the AGM to a pertinent question.
In answer to your question the child who was in his thirties, as far as I am concerned was uneducated and ignorant not naive in the slightest,
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miketw10...
Wow! What a line! Hats off to you sir! You could write a great song round that one! Seriously! John Lennon would've been proud of that one!
Thank you! :-)
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greenlion2...
P8DDY im dissapointed you used children in the last blog to try and get a point over about gambling. Never in anyones wildest dreams can these 2 be talked about in the same breath. And that is the last I will talk about it as I dont want to get dragged into an arguement on what is acceptable to people as that is not to ANY sensible person.
It wasn't a point about gambling. It was a point saying that Celtic should not involve themselves in exploitative ventures. I stand by my comments, and I did qualify it by saying it was absurd. I'm sorry however that it offended you.
We'll have to diagree on it's relevance, despite the absurdity.
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apesanteur...
Given your definition from the last thread 'non-sectarian' would have sufficed then!
Sectarian covers a wider ground, but I thought it was important to mention. As you say, sectarian would have sufficed, but making a supporting comment was, I thought, worth it.
Celtic are a football club open, as you rightly say, to everyone, but Celtic are known for the fact that their supporters are of predominately RC origin. Blethering on about ethos I have no doubt makes you feel like the thinking man moving among us - influencing us here - putting us right there - but any Celtic supporters I've met wouldn't know a 'non-sectarian ethos' if it bit Derek Johnstone on the a**se!
I don't think the demographics of the support matter particularly. And I don't think that mentioning words like ethos makes me any more of a thinker than anyone else. Certainly, I am amongst many thinkers on CQN, so in that regard I would only consider myself as amongst peers. I also prefer not to second guess what my fellow fans think. It could be argued that doing so, and assuming the worst, would make me the very thing I rail against. I think you do the Celtic support a great dis-service by labeling them such. It smacks of the old "paki's smell" taunts prevelant in the 80's. When challenged the accuser would always try and qualify the statement by saying "well every one I've met does"...I don't think it qualifies it, and I think it simply shows that someone has chosen to misrepresent and slur a group of people. I'm not accusing you of being racist, or being a bigot, I'm just trying to illurstrate how entrenched views sometimes become so through biase rather than fact. It's an odd human condition that we frequently think the worst of people.
Would you be comfortable amongst us Edward? I bet you wouldn't - nor I amongst you my friend!
Why would I not be comfortable around Edward? Because he supports another team? I have to sit amongst and communicate with people on a day to day basis that I have far less in common with than that. We tend to take football rivalry to extremes. Everyone does. I would have no qualms sitting next to Edward Ursus. He's a decent human, and from what I can gather a good guy. That he supports a different team? I can live with that (although I'll continue my attempts at conversion). If my idealogical divide only runs as deep as football support we'l get on like a house on fire. Even at a Celtic Vs Rangers game. I can empathise with someone who hates seeing their team lose a goal and can identify with a suppoters loving his/her club. On that basis I'd have no problems. :-)
Of course, if you mean the baying hoardes that sing "f*ck the pope"? I am troubled having to sharing a planet with these people, never mind a football ground.
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When is the AGM?
Thursday?
There's a general lack of excernment both on and off the pitch,leading to a lot of niggling squabbles,like bairns in the back of the car,stuck on the M6.
We need some meat to chew on,like Telfmeister's Predators.
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Paul67 said...
Sometimes your ‘best defender’ does not make it into your ‘best defence’.
I agree with the comment, but I think Bobo would improve the defense immeasurably. I still don'tt hink that Caldwell is an effective centre half. Although I do think there is room for him in the team as a defensive midfielder. His passing is good, his positioning in decent, but he gets caught out at the back a lot (I feel). I also think he's benefiting from his partnership with the most improved player at Celtic park, and also the best of the "youth" players to break through - Stephen McManus. McManus has blossomed into a very good defender, and if he keeps up with his potential, he'll be a Celtic great. Credit to Gordon Strachan for overseeing his development very effectively (and I bet you thought that wouldn't be a rubicon you would see me passing!). :-)
Heraldo, agree on Neil Lennon. I could make an argument for saying that this is his best seasons at CP.
On another note of unheralded positivity surrounding the team, I agree. Lennon is looking in the best shape of his career. Although his performances are not coming as shock to me. The likes of Lennon should be able to continue for a while yet, given the required support from the rest of the midfield. Principally, this has came from Majic realising that he must put in a shift - what a change in his all round play! Of course this then means the midfield are a little better equiped to do a full days work, with Naka and Aiden both due praise for their hard work and support in defence as well as attack. Lennon is doing his bit too, playing some killer through balls as well as the customary "percentage" play that I so admire.
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Does Chick Young read this blog or is it just a coincidence that he has used a phrase on his BBC column from the Pink Panther that I used on here on the 18th October:
My post:
Paul - a couple of days ago you were convinced the presence of JVOH was going to be critical to getting a result last night, I would have agreed. As Closeau once said, always expect the unexpected.
Chick´s BBC column October 25th:
With Heart of Midlothian always expect the unexpected.
Funnily enough he doesn´t acknowledge he is quoting from the movie.
Chick´s view
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p8ddy
Got to disagree with you, prob for the first time as I almost always agree with what you say.
Caldwell Is doing a fantastic job at centre half, and If anything It's him that's Bringing the best out in Big Mick.
Caldwell's organising of the defence Is almost as good as his passing, Almost.
He for me Is great captain material.
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There's a couple of amusing articles on KTF today for anyone not overly busy at work.
Oh, and FC Copenhagen are going to be allowed to sell beer at their remaining home CL matches with Celtic and Man.Utd. It just gets better.
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Complete change of topic, I hope we don't make our Asian prospects learn the language like this:
http://www.glumbert.com/media/tonguetwister
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TheBarcaMole,
how you been keeping?
Looking forward to the shindig next month?
My wee Da leaves next week to join you shower of lucky gits.
Make sure you have a pint or five with him,will you?
Wee Kano
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We all talk Celtic on the way to games, our conversation was around Bobo on Saturday.
IMO Bobo is our best defender, i have said for seasons, I would ask Bobo to defend and not to try and play football, this is where he becomes undone at times. First and foremost he is a defender, he should defend.
Without doubt as an out and out defender, he is our best.
Although, we have no reason to change at moment, the ghuys in possession are playing well.
Bobo, will have to wait his chance. As did Shaun, with the form of Aiden.
The defence is better, as the whole team is defending. All successful teams defend from the front. Best example Ian Rush whilst at Liverpool, he was arguably Liverpool's best defender. Miller also has this skill.
Neil Lennon, i criticised at times last season. This season he has been immense. How long can he play for? As long as he likes in the form he's in at moment.
Heraldo
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Paul,you mention lots of development to come between CP and London Road.
Couple of questions.
Does Celtic own the land?
Is the development in mind to further develop and enhance Celtic Park? Like a car park/museum type of thing.
Or is it development to enhance the coffers of Celtic PLC? As many flats and houses as they can make money on.
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Kano,
Good to hear from you. Looking forward to seeing your Da again. Should be some shindig eh! No even had to publicise it, mind you I've got a dozen or so mates coming over for it, most of them have been over before a few times but no quite for something likethis. Been on a few seshs with your bro just recently. Did he tell you about watching the game against TFOD in Dub's with no drink because of Ramadan.......... surreal! don't post too much on here but read most days, well work days anyway. I leave that to you and P8ddy, don't know him at all but like his style and outlook pretty much like yourself, says it how it is. Off to Lisboa on Tuesday with one other DHCSC member. What a journey but hey who cares, meeting up with the troops. Best to all Take Care, God Bless and Hail Hail.
PS any chance of you making it over for the 'do'?????
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Anyone with a spare few weeks and an interest in all things Glasgow can have a look through this site.
http://www.futureglasgow.co.uk/
Some interesting projects under rail and road which will improve access to the newly expanded home of the European Champions (circa 2010).
TMCwho'llbeheadingfor30bythen.
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Kano, Celtic now own lots of land in the stadium area. Do not expect housing. Nice bars and restaurants, extended retail facilities, a wee bit of landscaping as well. Shrubbery as far as the eye can see.
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Hi p8ddy
You mentioned earlier that you would be willing to pay more for a Celtic shirt that was made under a fair trade contract. Two examples/ideas come to mind:
1. Coffee chains have offered fair trade products to customers for a number of years (skimming off additional profit before being caught…) and the demand for these products have been particularly robust so it is clear consumers are willing to pay a ‘moral’ premium for some goods.
2. Celtic shirts are available from a number of retailers and are typically between £5 and £10 cheaper than if you were buying direct from the club. This offers a somewhat natural experiment if we were able to get hold of the data showing sales from competing retail outlets. Now fair trade celtic shirts will increase the cost of all shirts regardless of retailer but the above stats may just go someway to showing a willingness to pay (more) from the celtic support.
On the Nike/Sweatshops debate, I am afraid that i do not know much about Nike’s contracting practices so I can’t comment but I have spent a little time looking at ‘sweatshops’ and their role in the developing world.
Without going into great detail as to the papers, evidence, stories etc… I find myself in a position where I believe sweatshops do more good than bad on balance for the workers.
I believe that anyone with a few brain cells will be upset by the conditions often seen in these kind of factories but the debate requires context. These workers work longer hours than we do, doing basic tasks that we wouldn’t do, work in intolerable conditions and do it all for very little money. However, these factories are so often over subscribed for workers that it shows even this existence is thoroughly preferable to the abject poverty that is the only other alternative.
Throughout history, from our own industrial revolution to the rising of Taiwan and South Korea as economic powers, it has been shown that people are willing to come in from the country to work in these factories. It makes it hard for me then to agree with policies that would deny these people these opportunities (i.e. the boycotting of Nike et al products).
I don’t think it is possible for us to demand western companies operate to western standards as this would only make them move away from these areas and thus deny the locals of much needed jobs. What I think we can do is demand that our companies operate to the best local standards and continue to improve these over time. The cases of South Korea and Taiwan (economically, not politically) have been a success as they embraced western firms and competition amongst ‘sweatshops’ drove up standards and wages for factory workers.
Conclusion? Buy more from sweatshops and create competition for these workers by encouraging more investment in factories, not less.
McStay
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A few weeks ago on Etims, someone suggested the East End was the new West End.
Paul, from your last comment it looks as though you think so too.
I have it on good authority that a gang-war broke out at about the same time as they were levelling the ground on which to construct Parkhead Forge over the "nicking rights" to the shops that would eventually appear.
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The Parkhead forge-what used to be Beardmore's?
Some might say that was a sweatshop.
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I was told once, by someone I trust, that the club was quietly building up it's land portfolio as plots became available around Celtic Park, in much the same way as Manyoo did/do around Trafford Park.
But not only around Celtic Park. Also around the Merchant City area too.
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Campbell and Woods (Dreams and songs to sing)say that the immediate purpose of the club was to raise funds for charity.The club could not afford an infancy and a childhood but had to be successful financially ,and on the pitch from the very start.
The tension between being a charitable institution and a successful business venture remained as an uneasy truce between God and Mammon which was accepted on the basis that to fulfill the charitable function funds had to be raised.An effort to render unto God the things that are are God`s and to Caesar the thing`s that are Caesar`s.
Three years after Celtic Park was built with much of the labour volunteered free by the Irish community,the Glasgow Observer carried a report that certain men ,players and officials had blossomed into publicans.The point being ,of course ,that many of those that built the stadium and that the club had been established to assist had families devastated by the scourge of alcoholism.
We seem now to be engaged in a headlong rush to leave Scotland and get our feet under the same table as Me Berlusconi,Mr Glazer, and Mr Abramovitch.I know somebody will produce the stats to say that like Smashy and Nicey we are still doing our bit for charidee.However I cannot help but feel that the ideal of identification with the poor and oppressed cannot survive getting into bed with these gentlemen.
The compromise at the heart of the club will be unravel and we will find the truth of the adage no man can serve two masters.It may well be that we have little room to manouvre if we wish to compete at the highest level.Nevertheless the question must be posed what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but suffers the loss of his soul.
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great no 8
I agree with you entirely. There is in any event some hypocrisy in western countries who went through the same things 100 years ago, and used that form of production to get to where they are now, to now demand "higher" standards of countries just setting out on that journey of industrialisation.
Still, I see a severe bolding coming your way! (or mine)
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Does this mean the Bellgrove Hotel could be under new management in the near future?
The ideal of identification with the poor and the oppressed will always stay with the Support,regardless of the business ethos of the Board.
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Paul67, Kojo
There were rumours from Kojo and yourself when Celtic purchased the land for Lennoxtown that we had purchased more than we needed and were quids in as a result.
What are the plans for the excess land if any does infact exist?
Housing? Retail?
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il postino,
Hypocrisy it may be, but a necessary and expected byline of globalization is increased visibility into emerging market conditions and regulations. In the old days (100 years ago or so), the world was not operating in the same sphere of emerging markets- ships of tea from China certainly, but no global trading platform existed the way it does today. Working conditions throughout most of the world (for manufacturing) were poor, but who was there to revolt? Only the workers themselves. With the advent of global economy came the advent of global media, meaning individuals now have a greater ability to participate in the improvement of their fellow citizens lives. So while, 100 years ago, maybe our grandparents were unable to protest again the conditions in the factories they worked, I now have a greater freedom in my capitalist pursuits- meaning that I can choose not to purchase from companies that still adhere to those 100 year old working conditions.
It's interesting to think that the initial reasoning behind sweatshop labor for the 21st century was obviously cost-driven- hence outsourcing manufacturing to India or China, or even easter europe these days. Interesting because studies have begun to show that logistics and risk-mitigation for these 'low-cost' (i.e. slave) labor is actually expensive enough to cancel out the savings companies see in payroll. Meaning that it may be in companies' best interests to actually re-vamp outsouced operations to allow standard of living for these workers- while still seeing the same bottom-line improvements.
By supporting companies that protect their workers (in any country they operate from), you're supporting the advancment of a more condusive infrastructure. By supporting companies that don't protect workers or children, you're allowing the development of an infrastructure that will take longer to correct.
100 years ago, no one had the choice- that's why the current superpowers had to slowly develop these through internal and grass-root means. Now that we have the visibility and consumer say-so, wouldn't it be smarter to develop these socially responsible standards from the very beginning? And isn't that the type of club we'd prefer to support?
Sorry for the long post- and interested to hear your thoughts.
Kind of Cows
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arctic monkey
a luxury housing estate
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My dear friend, NeilR.....12.49P.M.
I almost choked on my nibble of Pate de Foie Gras, this morn at Breaker.......( ye did! So ye did! Ah wiz there!....remember?.....ed)(Total Trut' is never one o'ma strong-points!.....) When I read, your understanding that.....Paddy was a LIBERTARIAN!!!!!
Libertarian???
Cor, Strike a Light!
On a good day...Check, that!....on a dismal and bleak....Foggy Day!....Paddy could squeeze by as a LIBERAL.....and that would be to a perceiver who was Sightfully Challenged!
Anybody who espouses the teeniest,teeniest, admiration for the Nonsense Preached by that Political Gadfly, Naom Chomsky, as Paddy does...... then...
It is obvious to us that .......
Paddy is a COMMUNIST!
There I have said it! No more hiding your light under a bushel....you are a loyal little Apparatchik!
Us?
Well, our political loyalties have a penchant to be considered, Conservative Conservative...'n' that is Conservatively Speakin'!!
To be more descriptive?
A little to the RIGHT O'.....That Good ole TIM.....
PATRICK BUCHANAN!
Libertarian? Paddy?
MY EYE!
Kojo.
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TBM,
aye,if I manage to get divorced,adopt out the kids,and win the lotto by next week,I'll be there:-)
Enjoy Lisbon.
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Kojo,
who is Paddy?
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KingofCrows
Upon posting my comments I wondered about the use of the word hypocrisy. What I really meant was the use of the word hypocrisy in the eyes of those carrying out the industrial revolution policies today. No doubt they see attacks on their practices as hypocrisy.
It is difficult to see particularly the likes of China abandoning its labour policies, no matter the amount of pressure anyone tries to apply on them.
What western governments care about is jobs in their own jurisdictions (the self-interest imperative), so you'd imagine their strongest actions would be in dealing with this issue, long before it becomes a matter of working conditions, environment and labour policies in the emerging world (the altruistic imperative).
The self-interest imperative has been rather futile in stopping these practices, so what hope the altruistic imperative?
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My dear friend, Kano...
Paddy?
Ye don't know?
Doesn't everybody?
Kojo.
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Paul
Did you receive my email today?I'm not sure if it works after yesterday.
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I just laughed out loud in my office.....
I'm not snobbish, nor wish to promote any elitest perceptions about this site that i love so well, but.....
Can you imagine for a second such a deep, intellectually and politically based, globally encompassing debate on follow follow?
TLW:intellectualCSC
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Senator Pat Buchanan?
Maybe he doesn't answer to the name P8ddy.
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Follow Follow equivalent:
Dae you like Nike?
Naw it's pure pi$h, i like Adidas.
Whit, only f@nnies like Adidas, reebok is pure minteed.
Naw it's no, only gayboys like reebok.
Whit wur wee takin aboot anywie?
Ah cannae remember, wis it the globalised market conditions in relation to sportwear and the ongoing commitment to slave labour as an overhead cost saving device?
Naw, wae wur talkin aboot the sellik an how we boo aw the bad yins........
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King of Cows
I agree completely. I cannot understand 8 and Postinos argument that it is effectively evolutionary capitalism. To allow any indiviudual to expolit slave and/or child labour for ridiculous number of hours and in generally dangerous conditions is wrong at any time. We as should be eternal grateful for our recent ancestors in standing up for their rights. Should we say to developing coutries that they should now gi throughthe same loop.
Comparing sweatshop labour is also not strictly comparable to the developments of the 1970's as South Korea et al provided cheaper labour not always in significantly worse conditions. Nobody should suggest that wages should be immediately comparable as this would cause greater immediate problems. Simply that everybody should have the right to have certain basic conditions.
As you point out their are often hidden costs in any case that swamp the intial cost savings and render the argument futile.
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King_of_cows, P8ddy, tooheys_new, Druiddude.
Its nice to see that their is a heart that beats and cares at Celtic still.
Keep up the good work. Celtic belongs completely to people like yourselves. Nobody can take it away from you no matter how many shares they may have invested in Celtic plc. Your type is what makes Celtic special. Without your type following and supporting Celtic. Celtic does become just another PLC.
Hail Hail
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Lhads
Would love to continue this debate - if only to drive away what few FF lurkers there might be through the force of eloquence and reasoning.
But I really have to run.
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During the recent Israeli offensive against Hizbollah there were Lebanese flags being flown at CP.I don't think there are many,if any,other clubs[St Pauli?]where the support would show empathy with the oppressed of the World.
We should try and get something done about Darfur,that would be a moonbeam..
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My dear friend, Arctic Monkey....
Your memory does not err.
Celtic have purchased far more land than is required to satisfy the needs of a mere Soccer Academy.
The extra land resources,will be used for the construction of Apartments for sale and residential development.
The opportunities for making a very nice buck, will be exploited to the full.....by the shrewd Celtic Operators.
Benevolent Capitalism...at woik!
Doncha just love it?
A side bar on Celtic Pokah Enterprise....
A Bold and Beautiful entrance into the Wonderful Woild o' Venture Gaming!
Look, pal.......
Everyone, reading this, has at one time or... Several!...indulged themselves in a little flutter...
in the disposal o' their... DISPOSABLE INCOME....
Embarking, on the adventure of essaying to increase it,either by the Sport o' Kings.....or many of the other gambling opportunities available.... either ..... LEGALLY or No.
The nonsensical protests that have been written, in condemnation of The Celtic, having the audacity to embrace the running of a Pokah Tournament,are reminiscent of the Denunciations of a Reformed Lady o' the Evenin'!
As another worthy has enunciated...
Gie us a Break!
I hope that in this new Venture, the Club makes oodles o' dough!
The way to go guys!
If the Gambling Suckahs,among us,are gonna persist in their habit....
Then why should Celtic not get a spoonful o' the Gravy. as well?
It's a lousy way to make a buck... but someboady has tae dae it!
Makes sense to me!
Kojo.
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Kojo, you’re up to a wee bit of ‘C’ there, I can tell!
On Globalisation:
Globalisation will feed, clothe and shelter more of the world’s poor in the 21st Century than Christianity.
On conservatism: that old tosh is just another name for protectionism – a strategy advocated frequently by conservatives on both sides the pond. Uncle Jo would be proud of them!
Let me buy, sell and play football wherever I like, without the vested interests of others getting in my way.
Zbysek, I think we will need to revert to the pigeons. I did not get your email today, did you (or your daughter) get mind yesterday?
In case you missed my mail yesterday, I retold the story of David Marshall’s early Celtic games, in particular those two outstanding performances to defeat Barcelona aged 19.
I really enjoyed telling that story again.
You can send to me via the About page.
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Hi Paul,
I'm surprised to find anyone on here defending the use of sweat shops, the conditions under which folk labour in those places are abominable as is the use of child labour. In many of them the workers are treated more like slaves than employees. This isn't an attack on any particular brand but a condemnation of the sweat shop industry. I don't know how anyone can claim to treat human beings like that because it lifts them slightly above starvation level poverty. Many of your support are descended from Irish immigrants who would have had that line used to justify treating them as second class people, why pay them the same as Protestants they are used to poverty and starvation and if they don't like it? Well, tough thousands more will take the job. I'm not advocating paying the same level of wage as is paid in the first world workplace as economies are different but that doesn't mean they should be treated as medieval serfs with no rights or dignity.
TheLeftWinger :- Your post made me laugh but to be fair it could be equally applied to some Celtic sites. Or maybe you feel that Celtic are somehow unique in having no ignorant or under educated fans. I've said before that I feel it's the format of this site along with many of the posters that allows detailed debate on such a diverse range of subjects outside football.
IlPostino :- Perhaps you may get a shock and find out that rather than run some are capable of giving their own views with reasoning and eloquence.
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My dear friend, Il Postino,
Patrick J. Buchanan is the name...
And, Political Punditry, is his game.
He has never been a Senator.
Many years ago he was a Speech Writer for one o' the Republican Presidents...
However.......
He has in the Past ...thrown his Derby into the Political Morass... and, unfortunately, had it seriously dented....
Now he resorts to writing Very Conservative, and thereby Sensible.... Political Books...
Look up his efforts in that domain.
I believe they are more than Political Observations...
I believe that His Books are....
PROPHETIC!!
He paints a very unsteady and tumultuous future, for the American Continent.
Do yersel' a favour and catch one o' his Books.
Kojo.
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Kojo……
The Celtic poker room, I’ll just have to wait on The Celtic Snap room coming online soon.
All the gambling stuff it’s for mugs.
As you say someone has to do it.
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I am looking forward to the day that my official Celtic Credit Card gets me reduced entrance into the official Celtic Brothel the workers want to work there too just after I finished toking on my favourite green and white striped lebanese columbian cocktail. Will we cater for homosexuals as well ? us being an all encompassing club an all. I think its important that we get a steal on David Murrays Govan casino dont want to be playing catch up again do we ?
Some of us will even feel at home
Bright light city gonna set my soul
Gonna set my soul on fire
Got a whole lot of money thats ready to burn,
So get those stakes up higher
Theres a thousand pretty women waitin out there
And theyre all livin devil may care
And Im just the devil with love to spare
Viva Glasgow Celtic
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Sir Paul......
Is it that self-evident?....
Weeel, it looks like I shall have to go back to the good ole... Adumbrational Approach....
That's the Big "A"..... for the edification of those, who are interested in that sorta t'ing!
Kojo.
Unmasked.
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My dear friend, Awe Naw....
Now ye are cookin' wit' Parafin!
Or is it Coal Oil?
Money, Money, Money!
The only people who are against its accumulation are the one's who are experiencing, a lack.
With us, it was love at first Mite!
All yous widders......eat yer heart oot!
Always remember,it was a mis-translation o' that influential Biblical Quotation, that caused the Hoi Poloi to adopt their negative attitude towards the pursuit o' sheckels.
The real meaning o'the ancient Greek, wiz.......
"The LACK o' Money is the ROOT O' AWE EVIL!"
How the word "Love" goat into the picture wiz a mystery....as Tina has wisely pointed oot......in her popular song!!
Kojo.
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Kojo
"If you reach back in your memory
A little bell might ring
'Bout a time that once existed
When money wasn't king
If you stretch your imagination
I'll tell you all a tale
About a time when everything
Wasn't up for sale
There was this cat named Johnny
Who loved to play and sing
When money wasn't king
We'd all get so excited when
John would give a show
We'd raise the cash between us
And down the road we'd go
To hear him play that music
It spoke right to my soul
Every verse a diamond
Every chorus gold
The sound was my salvation
It was only everything
Before money became king
Well I ain't sure how it happened
And I don't know exactly when
But everything got bigger
And the rules began to bend
And the TV taught the people
How to get their hair to shine
And how sweet life can be
If you keep a tight behind
And they raised the cost of living
And how could we have known
They'd double the price of tickets
To go see Johnny's show
So we hocked all our possessions
And we sold a little dope
And went off to rock and roll
We arrived there early
In time to see rehearsal
And John came out and lip-synched
His new lite beer commercial
And as the crowd arrived
As far as I could see
The faces were all different
There was no one there like me
They sat in golden circles
And waiters served them wine
And talked through all the music
And paid to John paid little mind
And way up in the nosebleeds
We watched him on the screen
They'd hung between the billboards
So cheaper seats could see
Johnny rock that golden circle
An all those VIP's
And that music that had freed us
Became a tired routine
And I saw his face in close-up
Trying to give it all he had
And sometimes his eyes betrayed him
You could see that he was sad
And I tried to rock on with him
But I slowly became bored
Could that man on stage
With everything
Somehow need some more?
There was no use in pretending
No magic left to hear
All the music gave me
Was a craving for lite beer
As I walked out of the arena
My ears began to ring
And money became king"
Love Awe Naw
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ANNAOAN
"I'm gonna give it everything I've got,
Lady luck's with me and the dice are hot,
Got coke up my nose to dry away the snot..."
The Dead Kennedys CSC
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good evening , was in the celtic shop today buying some goodies for the family over-by and again encouraged by those from the continent who were in to buy as well. Hope the Celts do well again this weekend but will be watchin from the Shamrock Bar in Monaghan. See guinness, see long weekends...Majic...
Ard Ri
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Kojo
And i thought yer biblical quotation would be aboot yon Camel sailing through the eye of a needle "easy fashion" whilst a rich man couldnae enter God's kingdom.
However you are dead right there is no glory in poverty. Millions of child labourers across the world would testify to that!
Nonetheless that has little to do with Celtic with the exception that they make deals with companies particularly Nike which pursue very unethical policies in the pursuit of profit.
Celtic are not a political organisation they are indeed a PLC, with responsibilites to its shareholders, very few of whom complained about the Nike deal. I for one will not wear the swoosh top preferring my older tops, unbesmirched by advertising and unbroken HOOPS!
Celtic do need to maximise their income through as many streams as possible but as shareholders would could do more to try to ensure that these are ethical.
The other problem is that Celtic are not just a PLC they are a social phenomenum. How many PLCs could get 60,000 people to attend a meeting in Seville many of whom would not be able to get in to witness the discussions!
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My dear friend, Awe Naw....
Oh! Stoap it, Stoap it!
Yer.....
Breakin' Ma Heart!
Itsa Heart Breakin'...
So it is!
Thatsa Right?
Yeah! Thatsa Right!
Kojo.
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Was this one of the most profitable matches EVER for Celtic-
click here .......
and we weren't even playing......
noel.
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Finbar,
Once I had a close friend
I knew him for quite a while
He seemed alright to me
We had this deal together
Tied up my money and time
And then he went away
Taking all that was mine
Oh, well, things crumble to an end
Hell, we all die in the end
Die in the end
Once it was fun to worry
About who was in control
Could look into the future
But now it don't seem right
Passion is filling the air
Profits are better than life
And things are harder to bear
Oh, well, things crumble to an end
Hell, we all die in the end
Die in the end
It's a dead end
Dead end
Dead end
Once I had a lover
I knew her for quite a while
She seemed alright to me
But then she was gone
She took my lovin' and time
Taking all that was mine
And leaving me far behind
Oh, well, things crumble to an end
Hell, we all die in the end
Die in the end
It's a dead end
Dead end
Dead end
Love Awe Naw
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Smell The Glove and others who were concerned about the Portugese at the bottom of the Miklos Feher banner. This has now been changed and is apparently AOK now.
http://www.celticminded.com/showthread.php?t=205403
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Anyone listening to BBJ on clyde right now? A gent amongst Celts
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Kojo,
Money, get away.
Get a good job with good pay and youre okay.
Money, its a gas.
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think Ill buy me a football team.
Money, get back.
Im all right jack keep your hands off of my stack.
Money, its a hit.
Dont give me that do goody good bullshit.
Im in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a lear jet.
Money, its a crime.
Share it fairly but dont take a slice of my pie.
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today.
But if you ask for a raise its no surprise that theyre
Giving none away.
Huhuh! I was in the right!
Yes, absolutely in the right!
I certainly was in the right!
You was definitely in the right. that geezer was cruising for a
Bruising!
Yeah!
Why does anyone do anything?
I dont know, I was really drunk at the time!
I was just telling him, he couldnt get into number 2. he was asking
Why he wasnt coming up on freely, after I was yelling and
Screaming and telling him why he wasnt coming up on freely.
It came as a heavy blow, but we sorted the matter out
All that you touch
All that you see
All that you taste
All you feel.
All that you love
All that you hate
All you distrust
All you save.
All that you give
All that you deal
All that you buy,
beg, borrow or steal.
All you create
All you destroy
All that you do
All that you say.
All that you eat
And everyone you meet
All that you slight
And everyone you fight.
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come
and everything under the sun is in tune
but the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
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Kojo
Promoting Celtic poker
Admiration for Pat Buchanan
Celtic's property development portfolio
Suggesting rewriting the Bible to suit himself
That's the funniest set of posts I've read in a long time.
What? You are SERIOUS?
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My dear friend, Newarthillbhoy...
Have ye never heard this wan, as weel.??.....
I love it..... Here goes!
"Pull up the Ladder, Jack..... I'm on the wall!"
Your missive reminds me a lot of the Pontifications o' ma Auntie Jane...whenever ma brothers and I paid her the annual visit!
She wiz loaded.....ah say loaded....an ah don't mean wi' financial cares or worries.....
No sirree.... She wiz a Zillionare!
Anyway, she always intoned at the dinner table......
"Now lads.... eat up.... and don't skip on the Veggies....
There ARE POOR CHILDREN IN AFRICA who are starving, right now!"
That wiz umpteen years ago...
'N' ye know sumttin'?
That statement that she made, still holds true today!
Now how dae ye think that came aboot?
Easy!
In this world there are WINNERS and there are LOSERS.......
It was ever so.....and it will continue to be so.
So?
Ye should thank yer lucky stars, that you are in the Camp o' the Winners.....
Aw yer sanctimonious forebodings, do not amount to a hill o' beans....
in the Great Scheme o' Things....
There is naethin' that you or ah can dae to change the WOILD!
Ye are jist wastin' yer time......
Ah say tae ye......
Jump right in and enjoy all the amenities that bein' a winner evokes..........
"Yer in yer Auntie's..... an' she is Blin'!"
Ah bin rich an' ah bin Poor!
'N' Rich is Bettah!
Who said that.....
Why the BOSS..... OF COURSE!
Kojo.
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Kojo
Instant karma's gonna get ya....
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My dear friend, History Reader....
Climb down frae the mountain....oh! wise and holy one...
Come on on doon..... and jine the woild!
Ye are in fur a shock... if ye choose no tae Jine in in the Rat Race!
It is dug eat dug......( Ah thocht ye said it wiz a "Rat RACE'?.....ed)( so sue me, I LIED!)
I am afraid that your tongue must be bulging yer cheek, after ye hiv penned that last posting, pal.
Surely, ye are a big bhoy/goil....
Doncha know?..........
Money is what make the woild go roon!
Kojo.
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Kojo,
yer Auntie wiz just frettin that you´d end up wi the mindset eh ay Bluenose.
God bless her.
Love Awe naw
got to go I need to shoot some losers in the eyes who have been rustling in my garbage cans
Hail Hail
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Aw Naw
"It's a pleasure to meet someone who understands that to the true gambler, money is never an end in itself, it's simply a tool, as a language is to thought..."
Terry Southern
the Cincinnati Kid CSC
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Scanning through some of the comments, I see the ethics of the club's chosen sponsors are being discussed.
Barcelona having UNICEF on their jerseys, and paying UNICEF for the privilage, show them as being more than just a club. Something we as Celtic fans hold dear to our hearts.
What about Celtic naming the stadium in a similar fashion. After all, it would be in keeping with our charitable roots and the ethos which we all like to believe that Celtic is all about.
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Come to Chennai,
And see the power of money,
And the plight of want of it.
You want to reinstate our position as a charitable institution?
Just give to charity. All of us. Ask the club to set up a trust fund that we can all contribute to, to enhance the name of our club and its support.
Why not, it's us who would pay for it anyway.
Or better still, let's all give quietly, in the name of Celtic. Wouldn't that be truly generous, truly magnanimous, and untainted by any hint of giving selfishly?
I'm off to bed now, my safe warm bed on the third floor. I'll be thinking of 4 million Chennaiites spending the night at ground level, many in straw huts or tarpaulin tents, in a downpour that has been going on for six hours and looks as if it could last for another six days.
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Kojo-
you CAN'T TAKE IT WITH YOU !
Enjoy your sleep Shug-it's bucketing down from the high heav ens here as well.
noel.whoisbackontherazzbutnotgoingout.
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My dear friend, Finbar42,
My, my........
I am just dyin' pal.... tae watch yer high falutin' ideas about gamblin' goin' doon the drain.... when.....
Ye put yer ideas aboot gamblin' intae ACTUAL PRACTICE!
It's no aboot Money?
Hey pal....
Try gamblin' withoot it!
Noel......
Is that the best ye can can up wit'?
Dae ye mind if ah kin have it Laminated fur ma Wallet?
Profound!...that's wit it is...so it is!
Kojo.
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look out the window....Why cant the AGM be held INDOORS??
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Does anyone know who the bluenose on The Real radio phone in was tonight?
I was trying to find Celtic TV and Stumbled across it on Setanta.
when asked "what would be your message to any rangers fans out there,who are concerened just now?"
He replied "Keep believing,We are the The People."
Alan Rough smirked,and looked a little shocked.
I applied my right to switch channels,but i really wanted to kick the Elmer right in the Fud.
Yes ,i am bigoted against Rabbits.
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Kojo-
have it laminated......
have it linamented.....
have it embalmed......
the maggots will still have it......
and you.....
noel.whoisgettingcremated.
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TinyTim-
it was David Edgar of the Rangers Supporters Trust-
the same guy that Graeme Spiers molligated last February on the radio.
Alledgedly -he said some NICE things about Celtic........
Leave the rabbits out of it.
noel.
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Paul67, ask the native American Indians what they think of globalisation, it is not a recent phenomenon. the arrogance of the west to suggest that capitalist economic development of the developing world (another western coined arrogant term) benefits these countries and cultures leaves a bad taste. Who is the happiest? the people in the tribes in the remotest pasrts of bhutan and the amazon or the urbanites scrabbling along on the corporate rat race in advanced capitalist britain?
our hunger for consuming material goods has raped and pillaged the world for centuries, in recent times the corrupt UN organisations, the IMF and corporate aid agencies have done nothing to identify and deal with the root causes of extreme poverty in the world, if anything they have (unintentionally or intentionally?) facilitated it by promoting the growing of cash crops and its resulting corruption in order to supply the tescos and wall marts and to service the debt owed to the IMF and world bank.
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Noel90
Molligated came from the red top word for Mollygate.
Mollygate is the scandal surrounding ,why Maloney has not yet signed a new contract for Celtic?
Do you know something we don't,ya wee pirate?
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Sorry to have dropped out a bit there (I have to occasionally do some work to keep the boss on his toes!) but had a few comments to follow-up to the postings on sweatshops, labor, and money in general.
I don't think we need to look at social responsibility as red ink in the Celtic ledger. What smart companies are doing is tying their corporate social responsibility to areas of key business strengths to develop competitive advantage. So even if we consider our PLC side (rather than the club part), there is still the opportunity to act in a responsible manner while continuing to run a financially viable business.
To wit- Celtic fans and shareholders push the board to only negotiate merchandise contracts with humane suppliers. With the amount of merchandise we sell, we have a good amount of leverage here, and many suppliers would be willing to work with us. If the Board does so, the fans reward the company by purchasing a majority of goods through Celtic, instead of knock-offs from vans on the street. Celtic continues to make money, as does the selected supplier. Fans may sacrifice a bit of money for increased cost (although as I pointed out earlier, that's not really the case from a total-cost perspective), but we also attract new supporters who respect the club for what it is beyond football. In addition to that, other clubs see the media recognition that follows our use of these suppliers, realize it's economically viable, and they follow to, improving some sweatshop workers' lives along the way.
Smart companies know that media recognition and risk-mitigation are value drivers equal to cost savings- they provide greater branding opportunities and increased competitive advantage. How much harder is it to bash a club that's widely known for their work with the poor and downtrodden?
This isn't pie-in-the-sky; this is what progressive companies are doing in the CSR arena. Which reminds me that I should get back to work.
Before I go though, one more thing. The global marketplace respects economies of scale- that's where leverage is, and money follows leverage. So if, like many posters on this site claim, we're the biggest club in the world, isn't it time we started acting like we have that leverage? Let's not only aim to be the biggest- how about the best as well?
KingofCows
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It's a team game, as they say.
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TinyTIM-
I know what you know.
We are damn lucky to be Celtic Supporters.
Celtic are damn lucky to have a support like us.
noel.
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Denia Bhoy
Funny, but when I saw Young Chick's 'always expect the unexpected' it immediately made me think of the Kung Fu program of a few years ago (the one with Glasshopper, later to become Bill, as in Kill B).
Don't know if Inspector C pinched it from there or not.
I did not read the article, as you might expect. ;0)
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Bhoys,
Here are a Dirty Dozen to test your knowledge.
No 1 Which Italian club did John Charles play for?
No 2 Who were the first English club to play in the European Cup?
No 3 Who was the S P L leading goalscorer in season 1983-84?
No 4 Who were the first Scottish club to play their home matches on artificial turf?
No 5 Who played in goal for Man. U in the 1990 Crystal Palace replay?
No 6 Who scored for the Republic against England in the 1988 European Championship?
No 7 Who played in goal for Russia in the first ever European Championship?
No 8 Who was the only ever present for Celtic in season 1995-96?
No 9 Who was Tommy Coyne playing with when he made his International debut?
No 10 Who was known as Crazy Horse?
No 11 Which trophy was won with Celtic's 200th goal of the season in 1967?
No 12 Who scored 23 goals in only 20 Internationals for Scotland?
Good luck , answers about 10 o'clock.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Historyreader
For your information there is a lot to thank Pat Buchanan for. If it wasn't for his Don Quixote style charge at George "Papa" Bush in the 92 "Republican" primaries we might not have had the political phenomenon that became Bill Clinton.
PB's attacks on GB from the right were straight out of the Father Coughlin playbook of right wing populism. The cries of down with King George were particularly memorable and I can only speculate wistfully about what might have happened if they had happened four years earlier.
Michael Dukakis might have grown a backbone!
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'Gavil Guy,
Thanks for your response to my appeal from last night. Good information and I'll pass it on.
Even though it's raining here too, I think I'll go out and hug an enviornmentally friendly produced Rowan tree at my back door.
What a libertine !! ;>)
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Martin42...
The only one I know off the top of my head is No 10 Emlyn Hughes.
That sticks in my head because it was my da's nickname too!
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Dontbrattbackinanger
Re Your comment on Coors/ Carling earlier today :
It is my understanding that this company has actually made massive strides to improve it's position over the past 20 years. To the extent that it has been in the 'Fortune' ratings for best employers, covering areas such as equal opportunities, and the like on numerous occasions since their well publicised union issues of 20 years ago. It is also now Molson- Coors due to a recent merger and is thus even more removed from the original company.
My understanding is that the other American Beer companies (Ultra Patrotic Bud & the South African owned Miller) now have much worse records, as has the hugely exploitative AMBEV from Brazil, which owns Tennents.
I do believe we could have worse bedfellows as beer partners.
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Kingofcows
I wanted to tell you that I loved your post on corporate social responsibility. If Celtic adopted the measures you have advocated, we could all be proud.
What would Walfrid do in 2006?
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This my contribution to the 'money' debate...
And I'll let uncle Neil tell it!
There's colors on the street...
It helps if you know the lyrics and the story behind it too.
Enjoy, learning can be fun...
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Evenin all.
Martin's quiz....
1..Juventus
2..Birmingham City?
5..Les Sealey
6..Ronnie Whelan
7..LevYashin
Maybe...
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Awe_Naw, Celtic_First,
Cheers and Thanks.
Edmoondo,
The way I see it, there are three choices we have in how we interact with our brave new world - which isn't going away no matter how much you may want it to:
1. Decide that western capitalism has solved all problems, don't bother worrying about human rights and freedom in other countries- they'll work themselves out. (il postino, great #8)
2. Decide that western capitalism has messed everything up so that we should just take our dirty hands off it all and leave well enough alone. (you)
3. Realize that the way the west has gone about the world hasn't always been the best- but that this isn't a reason to quit. Rather, this make it imperative that when we can, in this modern age, we strive to assist countries and individuals around the world however possible. Only by applying the knowledge we've learned the hard way can we prevent the same mistakes being made. Development in the third-world isn't going away- nor should it, as it has the ability to change lives dramatically for the better. But there must be constraints and control- and that's where we come in- to keep politicians and businesses honest.
I choose the third.
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MARTIN 42.
1.Juve
2. ManU.
4.Stirling Albion.
6.Ronnie Whelan.
10.Emlyn Hughes.
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Kojo, just like oor Naka, you can change your Adumbrational pace when needed.
Edmoondo 8:17, the North and South American native people, or “American Indians” sure suffered when the Europeans arrived, but that was quite literally pillage, not globalisation.
Globalisation, in micro form, creates change, winners and losers.
Go read what the spinning wheel done and how it was banned from many German states until the benefits of cheaper clothing became irresistible.
Worse still, go read what the arrival of the railways to India (the real India) done when the harvest was poor – the trains shipped out most of the food to more prosperous regions of the country.
While change creates problems, failure to change and protectionism (on balance) creates more.
I stand by my earlier prognostication:
Globalisation will feed, clothe and shelter more of the worlds poor in the 21st Century than Christianity.
Martin42:
Juve
Man Utd
McClair
Stirling Albion
XX XX
Ray Houghton
Lev Yashin
Packy Bonner
Emlyn Hughes
Scottish Cup
Jimmy McGrory
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Evenin' all.
Seeing as how my astute political points are ignored (I'll just accept that I'm a dinosaur) I'll stick to pictures.
On the Buses
In the ground
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9..Motherwell
10..Emlyn Hughes
11..Scottish Cup
12..Bobby Lennox?
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For those of you who missd BBJ on Clyde tonight, he came across as a great Celtic loving person who's heart will always be at CP.
EDB
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kojo
do you wear braces and skip lunch? :)
"the most beautiful sight that we see is the child at labor; as early as he may get at labor, the most beautiful, the most useful does his life get to be."
not much chance of socialist views from the land of the almighty dollah!
come the revolution kojo maybe could export cheap celtic merchandise to ya all over there at vastly inflated prices and work out some sort of crippling repayment program
oh and make you work on low budjet propaganda films with russel crow starring in them all :)
keep up the good work though kojo :)
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3..Brian McClair
4..Stirling Albion
8..No idea...If Paul says Packy Bonner, seems as good as any
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9. Was Tommy Coyne not a Celtic player at the time of his debut?
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MikeTW 10,
Correct, No10.
Wizard,
Nos 1,5,7,10, correct,
Nos 2,6,9,11,12 wrong.
TinyTim,
Nos, 1,2,4,10 correct,
No 6 wrong.
Paul, 1,2,3,4,6,7,10 correct,
rest wrong.
Keep trying,
Cheers,
Martin.
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Paul..
Two long term predictions you have made...
1. G.O.D...I agree with that one.
2. Globalisation will feed, clothe and shelter more of the worlds poor in the 21st Century than Christianity....Sorry that sounds like you are taking in too much of the corporate media...
Globalisation is avarice... and blesses all children in the developed world with the same deadly sin...
"Only when the last tree is cut; only when the last river is polluted; only when the last fish is caught; only then will they realize that you cannot eat money."
Indian, Proverb
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Pedant's point. Did 'Russia' play in the Euros pre the break up? Surely it was the USSR
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Wizard,
Even if Paul says it, it is still wrong,
TinyTim,
Correct.
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NO 6 Ray Houghton.
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Martin... no more guesses for me.
I was sure Ronnie Whelan was right, but now..inspiration...Kevin Sheedy.
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Damn....Kevin Sheedy was Italia 90
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I need to cut down on the Buds.
True!
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Martin
11 European Cup
12 Alec mcNair... Im doing this without Google so could eb totally wrong
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NO 7 Dimitr Kharine
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8 Dundee
9 Alan Stubbs
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Hi.I was just trying to find out where the National Stadium was in Lisbon,and came across this site ,you may all have seen it before, but I thought it may interest some who have'nt come across it before.http://www.jive.nl/~mag/celtic.html Its quite interesting for lovers of old clips of 67.
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PJBhoynyc, were it not for globalisation, we would have cut down the last tree on this green island a long time ago, we might even have burned it to keep us warm.
Some places are better at growing sustainable forests; others at growing corn, some at sewing jeans and some at writing software (a huge industry in the UK).
TinyTim, Dimitrie Kharine, now there was a waste of £15k per week.
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Anybody hear BBJ on scoreboard extra tonight. Nailed Keevins a few times. Brilliant!!
What a plonker that Keevins is he reckon that us celtic fans do not like Strachan because he aint Irish and of celtic background.
Granted that some fans never took to the wee man because he destroyed us in the 80's with Aberdeen and we never liked him, but for bonkers keevins to come away with a comment saying because he wasn't irish is NUTS!! Stupid comment from a muppet journalist.
NOW MY APPEAL TO EVERY CELTIC FAN OUT THERE. LETS SHOW OUR APPRECIATION ON SUNDAY AND BELT THE WEE MANS NAME OUT AND GET IT RIGHT UP THESE MUPPETS IN PRESS. I SERIOUSLY DETESTE THESE GUYS IN THE PRESS.
Paul67 any comment? Did you hear the interview??
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i think the remaining answers are
5 Chris Turner
8 Tom Boyd
9 Celtic
11 Scottish Cup
12 Hot Shot Hamish
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As I said in that earlier post,I've been trying to find where the National stadium is in lisbon,I cant find it anywhere,can anyone enlighten me,I was there in 67,but the old grey matter does'nt seems to be working well theses days.
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WGS....
Keevins himself knows he's a plonker.He thinks that by making these statements, he'll somehow be seen as a "tell it like it is journalist".
Personally, I don't think he could even tell you his name and get it right.
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do you think Martin42 knew the blog would be down :)
Or has Keevins blocked it??
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Well see what happens when I post a quiz, The blog goes down for an hour.
So well done to everybody who took part,
Here are the answers,
1, Juventus,
2, Man U,
3, Brian McClair,
4, Stirling ,
5 Les Sealey,
6, Ray Haughton,
7, Les Yashin,
8, The answer nobody got,
Gordon Marshall,
9, Celtic,
10, Emlyn Hughes,
11, European Cup,
12, Hughie Gallacher.
Another quiz next week,
Cheers,
Martin.
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oldtim67
I've never been but I'm going next week so, when some poster last month provided the following directions, I copied them and I paste them here again:-
"Been a wee while since I was at the REAL theatre of dreams (10 years next year) but, from memory...
Best bet is train that runs between Cais do Sodre station in Lisbon itself out to Estoril. Along this route is a station called Cruz Quebrada (which apparently means "Broken Cross").
As far as I recall you come out of the station and turn left along a road which then swings right up a short hill to a road junction.
Cross the junction (using the GREEN CROSS Code of course)and go up the road going right-ish up the hill that should take you directly to the front gate of the Estadio Nacional.
The pitch itself is kind of sunk into the ground in a bowl, so you won't see it at first...all you'll see is the rather grand columns and platform where Caesar held the trophy aloft."
Sorry, I can't name check the poster but I've taken this on trust.
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Kojo
Recognise the author of all the following quotes?
"The War Between the States was about independence, about self-determination, about the right of a people to break free of a government to which they could no longer give allegiance … How long is this endless groveling before every cry of ‘racism’ going to continue before the whole country collectively throws up?"
"If we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them up in Virginia, what group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?"
"Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free."
"I don’t care about the circumstances of a child’s conception. You want to execute somebody in the case of rape, execute the rapist and let the unborn child live."
"Homosexuality is not a civil right. Its rise almost always is accompanied, as in the Weimar Republic, with a decay of society and a collapse of its basic cinder block, the family."
"Rail as they will about ‘discrimination,’ women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism."
"The real liberators of American women were not the feminist noise-makers, they were the automobile, the supermarket, the shopping center, the dishwasher, the washer-dryer, the freezer."
Up until now, I had though you to be jerking chains but you have yourself stated that you intended to be taken seriously.
Seriously, this guy is as much of a political thinker as wee drunken Joe McCarthy. Outwith the idiocy of the Fox Network Newsroom nobody would place him in the same league as Chomsky, who has a solid reputation for his research and theory on linguistics. Hell, Michael Moore is more intellectual than Paddy B. He's Jim Davidson without the jokes.
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sftb.Thanks for the info.When I was there in 67,We stayed in Estoril in a big holiday,come camp site,and we walked to the ground,probably 1 mile.I'm staying in the centre of Lisbon,and I think the distance is going to be a problem for me,and As I'm making the trip on my own I think the distance,and the language barrier will be a bit of a problem for me.I'll ask some of the Celtic supporters who will, no doubt be thronging the streets of Lisbon,days before the game how far it is.But thanks for the info anyway.
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kojo
Somebody's not buying the Fox News viewpoint:-
Living in the wasteland of the free...
We got preachers dealing in politics and diamond mines
and their speech is growing increasingly unkind
They say they are Christ's disciples
but they don't look like Jesus to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free
We got politicians running races on corporate cash
Now don't tell me they don't turn around and kiss them peoples' ass
You may call me old-fashioned
but that don't fit my picture of a true democracy
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free
We got CEO's making two hundred times the workers' pay
but they'll fight like hell against raising the minimum wage
and If you don't like it, mister, they'll ship your job
to some third-world country 'cross the sea
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free
Living in the wasteland of the free
where the poor have now become the enemy
Let's blame our troubles on the weak ones
Sounds like some kind of Hitler remedy
Living in the wasteland of the free
We got little kids with guns fighting inner city wars
So what do we do, we put these little kids behind prison doors
and we call ourselves the advanced civilization
that sounds like crap to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free
We got high-school kids running 'round in Calvin Klein and Guess
who cannot pass a sixth-grade written test
but if you ask them, they can tell you
the name of every crotch on MTV
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free
We kill for oil, then we throw a party when we win
Some guy refuses to fight, and we call THAT the sin
but he's standing up for what he believes in
and that seems pretty damned American to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free
Living in the wasteland of the free
where the poor have now become the enemy
Let's blame our troubles on the weak ones
Sounds like some kind of Hitler remedy
Living in the wasteland of the free
While we sit gloating in our greatness
justice is sinking to the bottom of the sea
Living in the wasteland of the free
Living in the wasteland of the free
Living in the wasteland of the free
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oldtim67
You'll have no problems getting fellow celts to offer a hand. I arrive on the day of the match so I'll probably make the pilgrimage on the Thursday. If you're still around then, I would count myself privileged to be in the company of someone who was there on the day it really counted.
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Martin42,
Having not seen the questions, and just logged on..... here is my best bet for the questions....
1. What jammy bunch of cheats stole all the points from the bhoys in a CL game, with a total dive to con the ref ?
2. See 1
3. What famous Celtic player rhymes with Chocolate Eclaire ?
4. Where would you rather not be on a Saturday night ?
5. Which had a spring in his step when put to bed ?
6. What is the alternative spelling for Ray Houghton ?
7. What did Bardsley think Paul Le Guen's said when he raked his studs down a team mates leg in training ?
8. Who famously said "You have to look out for number 1 in this position ?"
9. Who are the best team on the planet ?
10. Who said "I Want you to sing, Everton are tragic, Liverpool are magic !" after winning the Engurland FaCup ?
11. What trophy will complete a G.O.D. for Celtic in 2009 ?
12..... Ok , I'll get ma coat
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kojo, im afraid your writing style baffles me.
I am part of the capitalist system but i do have a conscience, period.
The british, the spanish, the french, the portugese, the dutch, the germans (note their location in the world) all had vast empires stretched across the world, i see no difference between this and the modern term globalisation first coined in 1944 (post WWII for obvious reasons), are you condoning the disgusting actions taken by these countries in their quest for resources and power? is there any difference to what s happening now by ethical fre multi-ntionals and fascist governments?
Paul67, its maybe worth visiting countries like India to see the benefits globalisation is reaping to the majority poor castes. Only a small minority of indian society has reaped the rewards of globalisation. its no coincidence that india was the most important country in the british empire, it had an in-situ class system which made implementing the british capitalist system easy. I predict even harder times ahead for the millions of lower caste indians.
Also, where exactly does Africa fit into the globalisation miracle you are suggesting?
to me this is not about economics, the key to the well being of the billions round the world who sufer from extreme poverty is literacy, not cash. enabling these people to be able to read for themselves will empower them to no longer be shafted by the corruption which stems right from the top of the western powers right down to the local governments of the countries in question.
one of the few real benefits of globalisation and which is perhaps the main driver for globalisation as we know it is technology. the world is now a small place as a result and information flow is possible between billions of people, well, unless our freedom to comunicate is taken off us of course...
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Evening all. I was looking for a Celtic fhan's website. Could someone point me in the direction of one !!????
I could have sworn it was around here somewhere the last time I looked !!!!?????
pablophanque
No.1 This day in History
Only The Lonely - Roy Orbison. 1960
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Paul67.I meant to put in a post,about how I agree with your comments about Telfer,All I would add is I think Telfer is used as a great escape for the other players,when they find themselfs in a wee spot of bother, more often than not they pass the ball to telfer.The sign of a player who is trusted by all his team-mates.
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setting free the bears 12.09
Iris Dement. Thankyou.
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pablo
Did The Big O play for Celtic?
It would explain a lot about Rangers 9iar years!
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PJBhoync
We'll be drummed oota Kerrang csc again for our musical tastes.
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Astute as ever Senor Pablo !
For one evening only-I hope-Celtic Quick News was disguised as The Economist.
Kojo would have been more at home running a slave farm -"wid dem liddle black boys pickin cotton" in the 1850s.........
I'm sticking him into Mr. Lawell at The AGM tomorrow.
My mate Ardoch is taking me......
any word ?
noel.
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SFTB.That was the biggestlaugh you could imagine,the most enjoyable time in my life.Six guys in an old ford zephyr, on a trek to foreign lands.If it was'nt so late I would write down some of the experiences we had.Maybe another time,maybe have a drink in Lisbon I'm partial to a good drop of port,and where do you get the best port,any bar in Lisbon.
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Its a broad church here...sftb
Kojo's....provocative demagoguery fairly lights up the blog....Keeps us all on our toes.
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Hi mate. Checked the SA Embassy's website today and it stated that it may take up to 30 days before it is returned !!!!!
You can imagine how I felt when I got up today after 3 1/2 hours sleep !!! It's gonna be a long, long night........... :o(
Could you ask the board tomorrow what happened to all the Seville money !!!????
pablophanque
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Spot on Larrybhoy,
Are you sure you didn't cheat and have a wee peek at the questions first?
Cheers,
Martin.
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Pablo-
as long as they start paying you from Nov 1st.......
The 30 days thing is a disclaimer used by EVERY company that sends things by post-bet its there tomorrow.
1st question tomorrow ?
"What happened to all The Coronation Cup money ?-and the interest......"......
noel.
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oldtim67
Look forward to hearing some of those tales from the likes of yourself and fellow veterans. I'll be staying in the Dom Carlos Liberty on Wednesday and Thursday nights- hope to hear a few tales of the past and create a few more for future telling.
But there's work tomorrow and I'm off to dreamland where we always win.
Night y'all
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Noel, if GS is there could you ask him why he's so ginger !!!??? Does he not realise how offensive that hair colour is to some of the FF brigade !!???
pablophanque
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Don't know if this has been posted already but Etims also have a good piece on Paul Telfer
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Pablo-
come on.....
out yourself......
YOU ARE A GENGHI AS WELL !
noel.whowillnotbeusedasacarriageforgingeriststatements.
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Between the both of us, I think we'd struggle to get enough hair for one head !!!
pablophanque
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Speak for yourself ya "strawberry blonde"....
have a good one.
night.
noel.
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Pablo
I understand this is your last night on the graveyard shift before you travel to South Africa.
You remind me of the Goban Saor,a character from Celtic mythology I heard of as a child.He set out on a journey with his son and refused to travel when the boy could not shorten the road.Having had a couple of aborted starts the son asks his mother how to shorten the road.She confided to him the secret - with songs and stories.
The nights will seem a little bit longer,a little bit darker(but a hell of a lot quieter) without your contribution.
Like you I work for the electricity board(a light bringer...Lucifer ?)and I knew you were a kindred spirit when you said with typical southern understatement that all the good music in States comes from the South.
I immediately thought of the Scorcese film "The Last Waltz"where Robbie Robertson said the vegetation in the South was drenched with music.
Of course there is another aspect to the vegetation in the South that Billie Holliday sang about in her song about a lynching "Strange Fruit"
Southern trees bear a strange fruit
Blood on the leaves and blood on the root
Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees.
Somebody posted recently advising you to keep a snake in your car in S.A..It reminded me of a story by my favourite southern writer Truman Capote called "Hand carved coffins"where a murder is carried out by secreting a rattlesnake in a car having first injected him with amphetamine.A suggestion to add a little variety to the routine although it may make popping out for a pint a complex business
Finally may I wish all the best to you and the family and draw your attention to something quoted by an Irish monk in exile in a monastery in Switzerland over a thousand years ago
"Caelum non animum mutant qui trans mare current"
They change their sky but not their soul who cross the ocean
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Pablo-
this one's for you-
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
Hope it finds you first.
G'nite.
noel.
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and........
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200TH POST !!!
noel.
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pablo,
Didn't realise that this was your last night. Just want wish you all the very best - hopefully you'll still be able to log in to CQN once you get settled in SA.
