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old mcdonald had a farm
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C'mon the hoops!
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e i e i oh
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Here's a link to Scotty2Hotty's agent:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6498137.stm
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But for Scott McDonald we'd be looking at 4 in a row, and 7 out of 10.
But if he can outscore Miller, Beattie and Magic combined, I'll forgive him!
Riordan and McDonald leading the line next season perhaps?
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You left Zurawski out of your article! He deserves to be in there as much as Miller or Beattie!
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a murderwell supporting mate has just said he'd be glad to see the back of him only because of his agent and himself prostituting himself through the same type of media splutterings since his two wondergoals to win motherwell heehaw and the huns the league.
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Jackd, I have not seen enough of McDonald to agree that he would get in the team ahead of Zurawski.
When fit, Maciej has a reasonable record. If McDonald joins, I hope you are right about him.
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Consider an alternative version of Black Sunday:
Scott McDonald in the hoops and Chris Sutton leading the line for Motherwell.
Outcome: Celtic win the league!
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Hi Paul
If he comes, It will be a great move for him.
I have been impressed with his performances, whenever I see Motherwell play.
As you allude, Agents are not there for the benefit of the clubs, and will take every opportunity, to talk up there clients, and more importantly, themselves.
God love them....
As nobody else does...
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jackd and paul
zurawski has stated in the polish media in the last two days he will see out his last year and a bit at celtic and wants to then move to lech poznan, his home town club.
i see a bulging pocket benchwarmer over the next year
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BCUK-If the wee digger turns out to be 25% of the player Chris Sutton was for us he'll do.
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Rev Davie, I suspect you are right.
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Paul,do I detect you being a wee bit miffed that the news has got out without Celtic managing the announcement?
Or maybe even missing out on a wee exclooosive yourself?
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BigChips,
Very harsh indeed!
You conveniently forgetting about evrything else Sutty did for us in his time??
Like many others I was down the road at Fir Park that day and like most other ML1 and ML2ers I detest Motherwell with a passion and hate them a close second to Murray's Mob and yes I was disgusted with the way we capitulated that last 10 mins and yes I was disgusted the way big Sutton played in that last 10 mins, panicking like a 15yr old, but to make that comment, well I'm sorry that's just out of order in my opinion.
If McDonald does sign then I will give him my support until he deserves otherwise.
I personally don't think he is much better than what we already have and doubt he will help us in any CL capacity, but hopefully I will be proven wrong.
But can we try to leave Black Sunday out of this, all it does is bring back very sour memories and inflames this situation.
TTT
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bcuk,skippy for big chris,imo one of the best centre forwards in many a year at cp and not a bad midfielder ,defender either for a guy unproven at any level .
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the right rev. david hay
These are only rubish rumours which were denyed by Zurawski. Two days ago appeared that:
citation
Maciej Zurawski will weigh up his options at the end of the season according to the legendary Darius Dziekanowski
The former Bhoys star is now part of the Poland national team set-up and knows that Zurawski would like to be playing more regularly for the SPL leaders.
He said: "It is difficult for Maciej at Celtic just now, but I have talked to him and he is determined to fight for his place until the end of the season.
"He has a year left on his contract in the summer and will make a decision on his future then. He realises that a football career is short.
"He must do everything he can to prove to Gordon Strachan and the Celtic supporters that he is good enough to play between now and the summer.
"I hope that he is able to do that and am keeping my fingers crossed that he can persuade the club and the manager he is good enough."
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In his recent interview Henke said CRSutton was the best partner he had up front for the Hoops[and HL had played with Harald!]
He may have cost us a few bob,and been well remunerated for his efforts,but he deserves his place in the Ghreat Hhall of Hheroes
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zbyszek
i was gonna ask for ure take on this.
thanks.
i had high hopes for zurawski, mainly because jackie was one of my all time favourites and i was gutted when big billy let him move on.
but as for the quotes attributed to him wanting to play more. does this mean he has been fit and not being picked. i have my doubts.
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exuse the namecheck but does Dave Mcpherson not handle Mcdonalds affairs in Scotland.
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Kano, I have never, ever, ever ran with a headline with an unconfirmed transfer story. Not once, ever, ever (get the picture), though I have had knowledge of a few.
The deal is not done (yet). This is a cheap headline that puts Celtic’s business in the public domain before the club have concluded anything.
I know the club are repeatedly let down on assurances made on 'no publicity'.
spikeysAuld, comment deleted for language violation.
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See all this nonsense about strikers etc etc - someone mentioned JVoH as being prolific.
On what evidence can a statement like that be made. At the moment he has the same injury rate as Beattie.
we have a great striker (stats confirm this) in Derek Riordan and Strachan refuses to play him - he cant deny that he has issues with the boy.
I wish Strachan would grow up. I like Strachan as a football manager but not as a man manager.
This weekends game will tell me everything.
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the right rev. david hay
Many people over here have also some doubts on his recent form. He played NT game last Saturday. I'm sure he will be called for todays eleven as a captain. I hope this will help him to come back to Glasgow more confident.
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Paul,
do you mean never??
Sound even more miffed now!
Settle!!
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Paul, I too am a bit confused by the attitude of many towards Magic.
Overall Magic has netted 31 goals from 51 starts and 11 as sub, while Miller has scored 8 from 25 plus 14. (Data from Celtic website)
So counting sub appearances as 1/3rd of a game, and starts as full games (they will however have been subbed off a few times), Magic is worth 0.57 goals per game against Miller's 0.27 gpg... So Magic is more than twice as prolific!
On the same basis Henrik Larsson returned 0.77 gpg throughout his Celtic career, and Magic is closer to that than he is to Kenny Miller...
Magic just needs a run of complete games (free from injury) to get his fitness and confidence back to where they were last season. So if GS isn't going to play Riordan up front, then put Magic up there with JVoH for the rest of the season.
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zbyszek
Hearts have been linked with a Polish player called Adam Kokoszka. Do you know him and is he any good.
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Paul
I thought you would be least surprised about an agents antics.
Would it have went any other way?
The press dogs tongues would've been meeting the floor with the amount of beatific nonsense they've had to write about our glorious national manager. The relief of having something new to write about - coupled with a free rein to squeeze any last vestige of fat content out of Black Sunday would be a temptation too far.
I'm sure some wise and intrepid journo is feverishly working away splicing SMcD and Eck and Celtic and Black Sunday into an article in the food section regarding the returning popularity of Black Forest Gateau.
Just wait...
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Various, apologies if I have given the wrong impression, but I am not anti Chris Sutton.
I would never swap Chris Sutton's Celtic career for anything that Scott McDonald may have to offer. Big Chris was almost a Celtic great, and the plaudits of a certain Henrik Larsson bear testimony to this.
However, my simplistic comment was that if Sutton (with one goal) and McDonald (with 2 goals) had been playing for the opposite teams that day then Celtic would have won the game, and consequently the SPL title. But then again, if the team shirts had been delivered to the wrong changing rooms the same outcome would have ensued... ;o)
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I think the better comparison is £6m man Craig Bellamy and £750k man Scott McDonald.
On that day and that day alone, one of them stepped up to the plate and scored two good goals. The other let us down.
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andycol1
He's 20 years old promising central defender playing for Wisla Krakow ( Zurawski's club) He had his debut for Nt friendly game.He's not bad, but as always; nobody knows how the young players careers will develope.
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What is "NT"?
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Hi Paul,
Like more than a few on here I was under the impression that the deal was done and dusted. In your opinion do you think he will actually sign for Celtic? or is it still at the speculation stage?
On another subject many folk refer to a certain game as happening on *black Sunday* my recollection seems to be that it was a bright sunny Sunday with the sky so clear that if you glanced up you could get a perfect view of a helicopter flying away from Motherwell ;-)
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Sammy Appiah? £3m? anyone?
http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/soccer/artikel.php?ID=121587
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zbyszek
Your usually spot on so I'll take your word on this one.
But it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Zurawski is willing to sit and pick up a wage.
I know you like him Paul, and there's no doubt he's a great finisher, my main gripe with him is the fact that he seems to have no heart. He seems as if e couldn't care less.
I don't rate Kris Boyd very highly but when he was dropped for a couple of recent big games for Rangers, his attitude was spot on, when he responded by bagging a hat trick against Aberdeen. Zurawski doesn't have that sort of fight in him. You'd think a big Champions lge game would have been enough to put some fire in his belly, but he goes off th park with the cleanest of kit's cos he's scared to get the sleeves rolled up and fight when the going gets tough.
So i'd pap him first before any of them!
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Sammy? That's a new one!
Would be great, he was one of the few stand-outs at the World Cup. Surely he would cost a lot more than £3m? If not we should get him snapped up like a snappy thing!
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Sammy? That's a new one!
Would be great, he was one of the few stand-outs at the World Cup. Surely he would cost a lot more than £3m? If not we should get him snapped up like a snappy thing!
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TMC, in anywhere other than Scotland, the professional foul on Bellamy would have resulted in a red card and game over, rather than being waved away. A fact that is annoyingly harldy ever mentioned. What I'd give to have Bellamy still in the hoops...
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Edward,
think it is just as well you can't make it to the golf day after that one.
Very funny though!!!
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bigchips
what a ridiculous comparison even still
so if we had that wee clyde player playing for us and roy keane for clyde we would have went through in the cup?
nonsense
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thismancraig
You keep comparing Mcdonald & Belamy on that 1 game. Well I know who i'd prefer, and i also am pretty sure I know who most opposition defenders would rather we signed.
Jackie Mcnamara is as good as anybody to blame that day, the job was done, we were winning, and he as captain had us sitting right on our own 18 yard box. So forget about strikers not scoring. It was Bellers who single handedly kept us in the title race, with goals at ibrox, and Inverness midweek. Tight games we had to win, not to mention, against Aberdeen on the Sunday game at Celtic park.
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This Man Criag
For all his faults, were it not for Craig Bellamy's contributions from the February until the May, we would not have been in a position to throw the league away at Fir Park.
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brinalackbhoy, my initial comment was made with tongue in cheek.
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''On that day and that day alone''
Didn't anyone read that bit before spitting their dinner out.
I am well aware that if it wasn't for Bellamy we wouldn't have been in that position. He let us down badly and missed an easy chance, McDonald scored two difficult chances.
It looks like Scott McDonald is a Celtic player so I'll talk him if I like. Bellamy isn't and at £6m I hope he never is.
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Barca Mole,
if you are looking in.
Just spoke to my wee Da.
Home safe and sound,says he had a ball with your good self and the boys.
Thanks again.
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Seems to be a wee bit Narky in here the night.
And that is saying something,coming from me.
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st-gris,
he is prolifically injured.
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Thismancraig, I think we can afford both. It is also a question of expectation for the club.
S McD could develop into a player of Bellamy's calibre, but if we want to be winning/drawing games at the Nou Camp, San Siro etc., we need players with a proven big game pedigree.
The Black Sunday legacy of Bellamy, that has been mentioned previously on here, is also smashed if we are buying Scott McDonald. Always thought it was unjust anyway, as he sparked the team into life in the months beforehand.
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dunfydave, "NT" is for "National Team".
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For all the revisionism on Black Sunday, the fact is that we lost the game and the title because we were an unfit team and had been all season.
Bellamy gave us a boost from January but it wasn't enough to see us over the line. Every team we played knew that if they were 1-0 down going into the last 20 minutes, then they had a chance.
It was a repeating pattern and the blame lies firmly on MON, Robertson and Walford.
The fact that O'Neill had other problems is mitigated by the knowledge that he rarely attended training anyway. That is not part of his management technique. This begs the question, what were the other two Smoking Joes doing, watching a teams fitness deteriorate over the season?
Don't blame Mc.Donald for being professional.
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Cheers Big Chip Suk!
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I don't want McDonald, for 2 reasons obviously 'Black Sunday' you can talk about professionalism all you want but I still haven't forgiven him and to be honest probably never will. Secondly, if this is the type of player we are targeting for 'team 3' then my optimism for next season is not what it was at the turn of the year.
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leagbarrow
I expect us to spend between £3m and £6m on a centre forward - if we do then I hope it is not on Craig Bellamy. I think we could get better value for less risk and more return. Bellamy is a scorer of great goals and not a great goal scorer - this was borne out on Black Sunday for me.
If he'd added 1 tap-in for every FC Hollywood goal then he'd be worth the money.
Thinking back to two year ago I remember such debates as:
'Why the hell did we not sign Niemi instead of this unproven Polish kid?'; and then more recently
'Why the hell are we signing Naylor and not Kadlec?'
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Looking in as ever Kano; just don't post too much........
your Da was in great form and enjoyed his company yet again. BTW spoke to yer bro this morning, trying to figure out where we can watch the game on Saturday.......Prophet's Birthday so the pubs are shut to six but the KO is 15;30 here..........for now pal take care. God Bless you and yours...........TBM
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previous post.
Calton tongues 27/3/07
in refering to the 1980 cup final you you referred to beating Rangers twice. The inference being winnning the game and the aftermatch battle between two sets of disreputable hooligans. You seem to infer that to be invovled in that disgraceful event, which dragged the reputation of the club through the mud, is something to be pleased about. If this is the case then SHAME ON YOU!
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Ants,
Not doubting your sources but surely WGS knew about Deek's nocturnal behaviour before he bought him so why buy him and not play him?
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thismancraig
I understand alot of what you say about great goalscorers/scorer of great goals. But apart from chipping in with a decent tally of goals Craig Bellamy has so much more to his game. I'll take you back to the game where we beat Dunfermline 6-0 at CP Bellers didn't get a goal that day, but was man of the match, because his work rate and unselfish play was outstanding!
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Gordon Strachan thinks : I reckon Riordan would be the key to beating Milan but no way is he getting a game as he goes out too much.
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thismancraig
You remind me what I read few days ago. It was the debate on "Boruc singing for Celtic" I know, two years ago but interesting. The best citation from above is" the price for Artur Boruc looks suspiciouly low.
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Thismancraig, I will be happy enough with that kind of spend and it doesn't have to be Craig Bellamy, signing has to be quality though.
One thing I think CB has in his favour is I believe we could actually get him. If we can get a Huntelaar or the next Berbatov for the same money, great, particularly as one thing not in CB's favour is his disruptiveness.
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Real Radio: Motherwell have just confirmed they've agreed a deal with Celtic for Scott McDonald. The player will move to Parkhead in the summer providing he passes a medical then.
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GOWFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's the world coming to.
How about a more manly activity.....skull splitting for example.........oh for the heady days of my youth....
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Thismancraig
I think there is a difference between saying someone is not good enough, and saying He let us down badly .
I dont think Craig let us down on the pitch at all - but when push came to shove he didnt win us the league.
However, I think Bellamy had the attributes of the type of player who would be a good foil for a JVOH type...
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talk of £3-£6m on a striker.
who fits the bill....
huntelaar
kuranyi
nugent
and is it really a possibility to get someone of this class (klass)
i suppose it could be if we offload but the premiership would snap any of these guys up if they were available.
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I'd have those players in the £8-10m market...
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No English player who harbours ambitions to play international football will turn up at CP.
I expect the name of JBeattie to crop up over the next few months.
And if DHealy bangs in a couple of goals against the Swedes tonight?
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Malone86
Id have them in the - wont even consider Celtic as a move in the summer bracket. Possibly sneak Kurayni depends who else is in if we convince him of the advantages of a move to Scotlannd - CL/stepping stone to the premiership....
Still dont see it myself....
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ants, @13.55,
Don't know why your previous damaging allegations concerning this young man, has been edited out?
Well, read this.....
What you are doing is tasteless and injurious to the bhoy's character.
You are indulging in spreading hearsay.
This is known in legal circles as Detraction,and is ACTIONABLE under the law of the land.
Sir Paul runs a clean and spotless forum....... sans, "Sweetie Wifey"
Now that you have been informed of the reason for the past deletion...
Please take a telling, and drop this matter.
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ants
But like the rest of us you really don't know.
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Ants,
This is certainly not a dig at Paul, but unless he can confirm that what you say is factual, then he will remove it because an element of doubt remains which, as Kojo points out, could lead to a libellous situation.
You can tell us your sources are reliable, but if there is reasonable doubt, it's safer to let it go.
I know this as i posted something a while ago which was deleted. i then contacted Paul to offer my reasoning for posting, which Paul politely answered, and put his point of view across, and offered a 'private' response including what he believed to be the facts.
Additionally, these types of rumours can be damaging to the reputations of players/club associates who could be doing without pseduo-tabloid accusations.
Remember who's hoose this is.........
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Leftwinger
Aye - so get your muddy size 5 and a halfs of his couch...
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dba 14.21
No Northern Irish player who harbours .....
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Frankie bhoy
You're right - can you imagine what Lennons goalscoring record would have been like had he not retired - no doubt be pushing Healy for the record....
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Michael,
I've got bigger feet that John (5.5) Collins!
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Edward, the deal is not done yet.
Thismancraig, you should have noticed already that no one reads anything properly.
Sorry Ants, I have an aversion to anonymous posters making accusations of criminal activity against any individual.
If you feel your information is important enough to share, leave your name and address and allow the player to take the matter up with you direct.
I have deleted anonymous personal attacks on Rangers people in the past and will do so for Celtic players.
In choosing to remain anonymous, you place me in an invidious position.
Comment deleted.
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I think Don Rumsfeld is a regular contributor to thesNow what is the message there?
The message is that there are no "knowns." There are thing we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. So when we do the best we can and we pull all this information together, and we then say well that's basically what we see as the situation, that is really only the known knowns and the known unknowns. And each year, we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns.
DBBIA/Jed Bartlett CSC
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Michael 67,
Don't mean to be pedantic mate, but is the Kuranyi you mention, who we could lure to CP using the CL and stepping stone to premiership as bait, the same Kevin Kuranyi who is playing for Schalke 04, the team leading the Bundesliga and in with a very good shout of claiming an automatic spot in the CL group stages next season and could very well WIN the B'liga???
I think he also scored both of Germany's goals in their 2-1 win over the Czechs on Sat.
No offence mate but I doubt our bait would lure him over here.
But I do think you are right about the price braacket prob being out of our league!
No offence intended
Cheers
TTT
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Just read your article, Paul
I must say, that I had similar thoughts about agents, when I seen the Appiah story this morning!
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ragnar hairy breeks @13:57
My comment last night about the riot final ended with a :)- (meaning smiley, joke etc.). Apologies if you did not get it.
ragnar @ 14:12
"How about a more manly activity.....skull splitting for example.........oh for the heady days of my youth...."
Obviously you would have loved the 1980 Final, no? :-))))))
CaltonTonguesunashamedCSC
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FrBh-Bertie Peacock?
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dba
More innocent times ?
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TBM,
have just sent an email to Big Kano regards the game at the weekend.
May be of some help.
Hope so.
Take care.
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It could be argued that an agent is only doing his job by going to the papers in order to stimulate interest in the player in order to secure a better deal.
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Frankiebhoy,
By the same token, a pimp is only doing his job by exploiting vulnerable women(clients) and ensuring them a better deal.
The similarities are quite startling.........
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OW!!!
Walked into that one!
I was only joking though.
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OW!!!
Walked into that one!
I was only joking though.
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tlw
Even a cynic like me finds that analogy a bit tasteless.
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FrBh -I don't know about that,but I expect there are people who read this that might.
Anyways,DH has got 27 goals in 57 caps for Norn Irn,whish compares favourably with the likes of DLaw and KDalglish for the Bravehearts.
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frankiebhoy
That is exactly my point!
it is an agents' job too get the best possible deal for his client.
But it is now known that Appiah is available; that Celtic may be interested, and that the transfer fee may well be as little as £3M.
Any other interested club, may have to show their hand and declare their interest to the agent.
And when that happens, you can be as sure as night follows day, that the player's personal terms will go up substantially.
Personally, I would be very surprised, albeit pleasantly, if he comess to Celtic
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dba
Sadly I think playing for Celtic is something Healy would have to consider very carefully.
I agree it's a great goalscoring record.
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Paul
What happened to the man in the smart suit's statement that "this football club will only discuss deals as and when they are concluded" surely this McD story is a load of diddly squat. As I have mentioned before an average player with an also ran club
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brattback
It is your primadonna interweb stalker, err, stalking you!
Are you going to the CQN Gowf bash in the summer?!!
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Or could it be heresy?
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PlatMeister-I have read[nb not scrolled past`¬)]your last post[cue trumpet]carefully and find myself in complete agreement with your last sentence!
Now about Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen..
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PWAT-Hoping to,if selected.Not to spoil a good walk but to go to the Dinner.
Are you free,or washing your hair?
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Ants, I don’t want to appear unhelpful with you, but I am pretty sure you are wrong and the player has not been charged with GBH. I have certainly not been able to find evidence to support this.
This is a very serious accusation, if you wish to make it, leave your own name and address.
If you are correct in your assertion, contact me with evidence to that effect and I will allow such comments to remain.
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DBBIA,
compares very favourably,if you consider the respective teams the players you mention played in.
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brattback
If Mrs Platmeister will agree, then I think I will attend.
Like you, Nae gowf fur me!
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paul67
i can assure you beyond any doubt the player has been charged and will appear in court in May
please see below newspaper article backing this up, as well as the fact i know the family of one of the victims and the court date i can assure you is in may. i do not know how i leave these details you are asking for surely tour not suggesting i leave them on an open forum?
CELTIC striker Derek Riordan will be quizzed by police over a bar brawl hours after Sunday's Old Firm game.
The 23-year-old was with three pals in an Edinburgh pub when the fight broke out.
It is understood two of the Scotland international's friends were being rowdy and were asked to leave Biddy Mulligans by a bouncer.
The doorman was dragged out a fire exit by the two men and beaten.
The assistant manager of the Grassmarket pub was knocked unconcious as he tried to intervene.
Ex-Hibernian star Riordan's crowd had left by the time police arrived.
Yesterday, police said a 25-year-old man was arrested close to the scene and charged with assault and breach of the peace.
He is expected to appear at Edinburgh Sheriff Court next month. A spokesman added: "We are keen to speak to the other men involved."
The bouncer was taken to the city's Royal Infirmary but released later. Yesterday, the bar's assistant manager was at work - with a black eye.
He refused to be named but said: "I don't follow football, so I didn't know it was Derek Riordan and his mates.
"Some of them had a lot to drink and were being disruptive, so door staff asked them to leave and they refused.
"Things got out of hand and two of the men who were with Riordan dragged one of my doormen through to the fire exit and assaulted him.
"I went to help but was punched unconscious and kicked in the head repeatedly."
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GBH is an English legal term not a Scottish one.
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PWAT-Excellent!
My only slight worry is I'm sure I've read somewhere about strange men that'groom'their victims over the net by pretending to like the popular beat combos of the day..
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Stephen Appiah, now we are talking, been a fan of his for years. Pace, power, agility, and a tough tackler, just what the midfield is crying out for. £3m would be a snip.
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In addition, Derek Riordan is not 25 years old, therefore the person charged was not Mr Riordan
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Ants,
I think you should read the article you just posted and note the two ages on it and who they refer to.
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Paul 67
I can only speak for myself, however I most certainly did read This Man Craig's post properly.
Being a polite chap I simply didn't want to say that comparing two strikers on the basis of 'on that day and that day alone' (as This Man Craig did in his post) is a completely pointless excersise.
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Ardoch,
how many of his concerts you been to then?
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Groom?!!
Is your apparel in need of a makeover?
Then I'm afraid too tell you, that my taste in clothes is similar to that paragon of fashion, Timmy Mallet.
However, he does have more hair!
NOTtrinnyandsusannah csc
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Kano you're confusing him with Sidney Devine again.
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the article i posted is a reference to the incident he has been charged for
This is what derek Riordan has now been FORMALLY CHARGED with and will appear in court in May regarding.
i have no motive hear i have never personally slated riordans person or said he should be out the team only offered and opinion why he is out the team.
the charges i refer to i can say without any doubt are accurate as i said this came from the police to a member of the one of the victims family. how much further can i realistically go to back this up? other than say wait and see come may.
also i must state i have never said riordan is guilty of this offence, simply that he has been charged.
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At 3 million quid,and about 40 grand a week
Gawd I hope no.
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Look who has beaten us to signing Appiah :o)
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Ants - you posted part, I repeat part, of an article. Which made something vague appear even vague...er...
Why don't we all just wait 'til May and you stop commenting on it?
Fair do's?
U.
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You typed all that quick Ardoch
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Martin42 thanks for getting back to me re the Golf night,as you say we can discuss nearer the time.
Thismancraig,i agree with 99%of your posts but on Bellamy i have to differ.
As well as a goalscore his blistering pace means that defences dont push up on to our midfield,in the short time he was hear our midfield played better,i thought he was a revelation.
£6M is maybe too much for us considering the wage package as well,nevertheless to get that calibre of player requires outstanding fortune(Henrik,Lubo)or more realistcly hard cash.
I believe had we had Bellamy in our team we would have knocked AC Milan out.Scott McDonald is surely a better option than Kenny Miller but hopefully we also sign someone from a higher drawer.
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Without commenting on any specific incident I think Dekko needs to take a good hard look at the company he's keeping.
Is he serious about being a professional footballer,serious about playing for Celtic?
Or does he want to be just another Saturday night f##kwit,of which sadly Scotland has no shortage?
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TheTokenTim
The last line of my post says
"Still dont see it myself"
So I dont understand yours...
Anyway Kuyrani is a decent striker but one I've always thought rates himself higher than his a true reflection...
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Personally, I loved Bellamy, and I would have him back in a heartbeat.
Even with all his excess baggage, he was brilliant for us
In his last game at I****, he was magnificent and if he had stayed on the park, there is no doubt in my mind that we would have absolutely horsed them.
Big Marv and the Greek cheat, could not get near him.
He missed the next game against the Hi-bees and, in my opinion, it was THAT game which cost us the league
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can i just say that i have at no point said riordan was guilty, i merely stated he had been charged and is due in court in may. these are facts
i posted part of the article i thought was relevant, it stated in yesterdays paper(scottish sun) he was in court in may i believe and this story stating he was charged was front page of the sunday mail not so long ago
it stemmed from me saying this i believed could be the reason - or part of it- why strachan is not keen on playing him as strachan consistently berates this type of behaviour. this is an opinion
so for all the fdifferences surely it is fair to say my opinion has some reasoning behind it whether or not it is the case it was just my thoughts on the reason riordan is not played
i personally would like to see him played more
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Glen Daly
Being an equally polite chap I'd say that commenting on a comparison you think is pointless...is pointless.
Craig Bellamy is a better player than Scott McDonald - there I said it. However the risk / potential reward ratio on £6m / £750k for the respective players with their injury / discipline and potential is I think in favour of Scott McDonald.
Plus, skippy appears now to be a Celtic player so I'm talking him up and make no apologies for that - after all, there is usually a queue of TGFITW ready to crucify every signing we make.
If Bellars becomes a Celtic player you will read me praising him to the heavens. He will follow a well trodden path in the footsteps of Pressley, Hartley, Brown and McDonald to name but a few.
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comparing bellamy and mcdonald is of course pointless.
bellamy is a better player there is no doubt about that
as for risk ratio
bellamy would sell more merchandise, and if he was to not work ouit would have a greater resale value than mcdonald. however this does not mean the overall loss would not be greater financially.
in a straight choice of course we would mostly take bellamy an experienced player who has played at the highest level. he also has pace something we lack just now.
mcdonald is not a "box office" signing and if the 750k fee is correct i believe is overpriced.
but i find it hard to believe strachan or lawall thinks mcdonald is the answer to our problems and would speculate another higher quality striker will come in and with miller leaving for say 1.5m thats mcdonald paid for with £750k to spare towards a bigger name striker
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Glen Daly, I missed your comment and simply replied to TMC’s.
Ants, no mention of GBH, which I am sure would have got some press coverage.
This is why I am particularly reluctant to allow comments of this nature. When you accuse an individual of a criminal act you need to be 100% right and prepared to take the issue on if necessary. An error, such as calling assault, GBH, is enough to spark a response.
I cannot afford an anonymous blogger to venture into this kind of issue.
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It's getting a bit heavy on here this afternoon.
Something to lighten the ATMOSPHERE a bit.
CaltonTongues
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FRIENDS! ROMANS! CQN BLOGGERS!
REJOICE! REJOICE!
Having spoken to Mrs Plato, I can confirm that I, Plato, WILL be attending the upcoming " CQN Gowf Without the Gowf" soiree, in the summer!
She was so keen for me to go, that she said something about "helping me too pack my suitcase"!
NOW! Where and when is it?
And do I need a bow tie?
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paul 67
i never accused Riordan of anything criminal, i said he had been charged by the police with it and is due to appear in court. these are factual statements
I have been told it is GBH he was charged with by a member of the family of one of the victims.
As i said before it has been in the daily record, the sun and front page of the sunday mail so it has received press coverage
i have taken it on so far as i have given where i got info from as best i can.
i never set out to make this about riordan personally i initially offered it as a potential reason why wgs did not play him
I am still not sure how i am anonymous. i am not trying to hide anything
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Ants,
what is meant by anonymous is that anyone can sign up for blogger or get a google account, without submitting any valid info. I assume Ants isn't your real name, just like mine isn't Marvin.
Any recourse on your comments will come down on Paul67 since he's the owner of the site.
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Ants you are out of order.
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MORE GOOD NEWS!
KERRANG! CSC members will be delighted too ken that the magnificent "Iron Maiden" will be on the "Live From Abbey Road" music show, on Friday nicht!
It is on "More4".
If however, ye dinna huv ra cable, then it is on Channel 4 on Monday nicht!
Songs being performed are "Brighter Than a Thousand Suns" and "Hallowed Be Thy Name".
That is the end of this public service broadcast, on behalf off all "KERRANG! CSC" members
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Also on Friday nighyt 0n BBC4 is a rockumentary on the mighty Hawkwind!
Stacia,Liquid Len,Mr Kilminster..
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Paul
Listen tae the sound dat we awe like tae hear,
It's the Tap,Tap o' Happy Feet!
For Feet dat's so QUICK and Control dat's so SLICK,
Is ma idea o' a guy ah call, NEAT!
He Foist... Traps da Pill!... which is da Number Wan Skill,
then, he looks and conseeders his Options,
Fer the ability tae THINK,
an' tae act in a, Blink,
Beats awe o' da desperate...... Contortions!!
These Skills are so, Basic,
And are no present,the Noo..
In oor Strike Force, they're sure sorely, Lackin'!
It is time we let go, oor present Duo ye know,
An' cheerily, on der way... sent dem Packin'!
Noo, the challenge afore wee Gordo is this,
An' it is starin' awe one, in da face......
We need a Mid-Fielder in there,
Who ne'er thinks o' passin'... SO Square!
Then, jist stauns like a STOOKY,he disnae move his Bahooky,
Wi' a Dour look, awe ower his face!
His joab it's noo done,he has had awe his fun....
So he Proceeds tae Drap Richt Oot O' Da Race!
But Strachan is canny,fur his sights oan a Ranny,
Who'll correct a' these faults...an' has PACE!
Pierre wull get him we know....
But,as it ever wiz so,
His Price comes tae, Beaucoup Much,Dough,!
Fur gettin' da Best, never comes cheaply...
An' into oor Poaket,we must delve ,Quite... DEEPLY!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin',Tail's Awaggin'
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Michael 67,
"Possibly sneak Kurayni depends who else is in if we convince him of the advantages of a move to Scotland - CL/stepping stone to the premiership"
My point was that assuming we were talking about the same player, it is highly doubtful that any bait (as per your quote) we can offer would trump his current situation - Schalke, top Bundesliga, German National team etc etc.
That was all.
Like you I don't believe he would move here and also like you I believe he is another of the over-rated/believe their own hype in that they think they are better than they actually are a la Ibrahimovic.
Cheers
TTT
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While the KerrangCSC are on line you may want to know that tickets for Rush at the SECC on Oct 3rd went on pre-sale today. Now whats the chances theres a Champions League game that night??
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brattback
Whit time is the "Hawkwind" programme on?
"We are standing on the edge;
On the edge of time"
"The Psycadelic Warlords (Disappear in Smoke)"
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Stookie and Bahooky - now that brought a smile to my face collie...
Whom ever could you possibly mean...?
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MuppetBhoy
Not seen Rush live, for a LOOOONNNGGG time!
What price are the tickets?
De ye ken?
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It's on at 8pm,then repeated at 11.50 and 02.50 on Saturday morning for dirty stopouts/insomniacs.
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brattback
Are you insinuating, that I am a "dirty stopout" and/or an "Insomniac"?
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Must dash, as Number 1 son is due in from college shortly, and I will be unceremoniously, dumped aff the 'putah!
Toodle pip, y'all
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http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/newsscript.pl?record=864
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Talking about Saturday's game, I hope we can address the problem that I believe has been responsible for our laboured performances in recent weeks.
Namely, the absence of decent service to our front players. Given that we are not blessed with high ratio finishers, I feel that we are not creating enough scoring opportunities for the strikers.
The main attacking platform appears to be the "wrong- way round" wingers, who have licence to move infield. For this to be effective, we must have fullbacks who can get to the goal line and cut the ball back to oncoming forwards.
Fullbacks launching high diagonal crosses from 40 yards out is meat and drink to defenders, who can read the direction of the ball and act accordingly.
The cut back is the most effective ball in football for wrong footing a defender and I suggest that if we don't have the players to execute this move, then scrap the ploy of Naka and Aiden on the "wrong " wing.
Watch on Saturday to see how often we get to the goal line.
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I think what Paul is alluding to is that this is a deal that is not done yet. Celtics involved and make an offer that Motherwell informally accept. Motherwell of course tell their players agent. Agent then goes into overdrive to try and flush out any interested parties and get a better deal for all concerned. I.e the player, agent and Motherwell. They have nothing to lose. We will take the player at the informally agreed price and any changes to the informal deal will only happen if any other interested parties change the goal posts. Rangers paying 1m for Mc Donald anyone ??? Lets hope so.
Celtic on the other hand can always walk away from the deal claiming that their confidentiality was breached if they decide not to pursue. Problem is of course that the lazy media have their already made up story about stingy Celtic being lapped up by many a gullible tim.
I do wonder however about the timimg of these deals. It´s the international week and WGS finally has time? Mc Donald has been seen for the first time by our scouts ?
Maybe if this deal had been done or even mooted around about Christmas time some of the strikers already on our pay roll would be fitter and/or finding the back of the net.
I would like to digress a little and state that I reckon that Alan Thompson, Chris Sutton, Jackie MacNamara, John Hartson, Didier Agathe, Joos Vaalgarren, Paul Lambert, Johan Mjallby to mention a few have all had their abilities or careers curtailed due to how heavily MON needed to use them for his Celtic sqaud due to how small that sqaud was. So lets not assume that anyone is out the door yet based on Celtic´s inquiry and formal offer.
Also it´s good to hear that we are being pro active in this way. Mc Donald would be a good acquistion.
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I can assure one and all there is substance to the Bellamy story.
As I posted before, Bellamy has a genuine affection for the club and would be more than interested in signing. He delayed his signature on the Blackburn contract until the last possible second in the hope Celtic would come in with a late bid.Celtic were his preferred choice at that time.
He sports a framed Celtic top in the hall of his home (or at least he did)!
To compare Scott McDonald to Bellamy is beyond belief. Bellamy is exactly the kind of box office signing Celtic need. McDonald on the other hand, is a punt for a relatively small amount who will prove to be a useful addition to he squad
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Anyone can see Bellamy's quality, -but you can also see his price tag.
£6m transfer fee plus at least £2.5m per season on wages - for a 3 year contract you are talking £13.5m outlay - albeit for a player likely to miantain his value.
His value and quality can't be doubted. He is a sure thing. However his temperment and liability to serious injuries most certainly can be doubted. he would miss a lot of games through injury and suspension. This is why I personally wouldn't go for him.
Alos, his first choice for next season is obviously to stay at liverpool.
Bellamy is obviously in a different league from McDonald. However, McDonald will be a good 4th maybe 3rd choice striker (assuming at least 2 out of Beattie, Miller and Magic are punted) and at 23 and a reputed £600k and low wages is good value for this.
The thing that pleases me most is Celtic identifying the imoportance of a strong squad and planning ahead for next season already. Well done WGS and PL!
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A short tribute to Henrik Larsson, with some pictures from key points in his sporting career. (The first picture has been included for your amusement!)
The Henke floorball pictures are provided courtesy of Helsingborgs FC floorball club, and may only be reproduced if accompanied by an acknowledgement to same.
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Marvin
What do you mean, your real name isn't Marvin? And anst isnea ants?
I suppose you'll be telling me Collie and Kojo aren't real names either.
You mean I should have called myself something other than chennaiseabird?
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Off home shortly,and then round to my dads to watch the Bravehearts.
The return of Christian Dailly!
If WHU drop into the Championship he'll be the next to join Darth Walter at the Death Star.
A draw will be a good result,but I don't think there is a plan'b' if things gang aglae.
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Dear Scott
It's looking increasingly likely that the deal is done, or at least just about to be wrapped up.
Welcome to the Celtic family, if that's the case. If you read this blog, you know that, like all big families, it has a wide range of opinions, some really nice people who still manage to fall out now and again, and some people who just love a feud. A nice, big dysfunctional community in other words, that still manages to get on quite well, often by imagining that the whole world is against it.
You were part of that whole world, on one special day in particular. It wasn't your fault, you were just doing your job to the best of your ability (a good trait, if I may say so) and got a bit lucky just at the end of the day.
It wasn't your fault either that the real culprits were in the green and white hoops. Talk about dysfunctional? But some of us don't have the reserves to get over the mental trauma of that day without blaming someone outside the family. So tough luck, you're the scapegoat mate.
Then, some of us just don't think you're good enough. I wouldn't worry about that, some of us have thought the same thing about many new recruits. Gordon Strachan, Lee Naylor, Shunske Nakamura, Martin O'Neill, Henrik Larsson, Lubomir Moravcik.......I can go back a long way with this list. As someone else said on here today, it's not how your welcomed that's important, it's how we say goodbye.
Of course some of us confuse you with the box office signing we all crave. So some of us who know you are not that box office signing are eager to explain to all those misguided people that we shouldn't expect too much from you. You've just been signed as back up, so we shouldn't expect too much from you. And if it doesn't work out, at least we'll get our money back. That must fill you with confidence, eh?
I won't tell you which one of those categories I fit into, but I will say this. I hope you bring with you that thick skinned Antipodean sporting arrogance and winning mentality. I hope you make the most of the opportunity most of us on here would love to have had. I hope you score the goal that wins us the league next season.
Good luck, mate. We'll all get behind you when it settles down. Well, most of us anyway.
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Plato - rush tickets are £45 a pop - nae cheap like but thats the going price these days it seems
I've a ticket for every UK show so I'm a sad old (skint) git
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isn't it ironic that wgs released scott macdonald on a free at southampton deeming him not good enough
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McDonald left Southampton at 20 years old, lots can happen in a players development between 20 and 23.
Henrik Larsson was still part time at 21.
TMC who is about to run away before someone shouts 'you can't compare McDonald to Larsson'.
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hi everybody
bit narky on here today, i see.
scott mcdonald and derek riordan at the centre of the debate
riordan involved in a fight and charged? - think celtic's name would have been dragged through the mud by now if it was factual.
scott mcdonald's alleged signing is an unusual
one, and it remains alleged, despite the reports.
still plenty of time for the 'mcdonald snubs celtic
for gers' headlines that is if darling walter 'moves
in'. but then we would need to raise that old
murray chestnut 'everytime celtic put down any
fiver we'll put down a tenner"
oh how we love that old one.
www.tictalk.org
hail hail
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Evenin all.
A quick duck and dive post here.
Reading the earlier stuff on Deeks....
ants....Speaking as a man of 27 years legal standing, I can state without fear of contradiction, NO-ONE in Scotland gets charged with GBH. It is an English crime.
Mr Riordan may or may not be appearing at a courthouse in May.
If he does, it will not be on a charge of GBH.
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What happens in a week Saturday against Motherwell?
Surely Celtic would have asked for McDonald not to play as part of the deal?
Then again maybe not!!
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My dear friend, Jansbetter etc.
It is not by mere happenstance, that Celtic have signed, Mako....
It is by design.
His relatively low purchase price makes him an attractive bargain.
Although, bargains are not always bargains, but that is another tale.
In comparing him to a player of the stature of Bellamy,is tantamount to comparing the Henrik dated Post Feyernood(sic?), to the Henrik of Barcelona fame.
Bellamy is the matured timber , Mako... a mere sapling.
Celtic went for Mako, because they believe that he represents VALUE for money.
This is the Current Mantra, that the Celtic Powers that be, have presently adopted.
And, about time... too!
The lad is at the sweet spot in his playing career.
Age-wise,he is a perfect example of what Strachan and Company are zeroing in on.
They are looking for young promising potential performers..... the Three P's if you will.
It must be apparent that Celtic can, nay...will not.... compete in an escalating (pricewise), Transfer Market,that now makes it an impossible one to enter,especially for a SPL team,such as themselves.
Their plan is an obvious one..
Be on the CONSTANT LOOK-OUT ,for Players possessing ....YOUTH and PROMISING POTENTIALLITY as Future Performers.
No Brainer? You say.
Evidently, that conclusion has not been UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED, by quite a few contributers to this and other forums.
Whether one is alive to the above difficult circumstances,brought on by the influx of T.V. revenue, to those in the Premier League... those circumstances do exist.
Celtic are not competing on a Level Playing fied,with their would be competitors in the Transfer Market.
In essence, the unhappy fans who are concerned at the lack of ambition,that is being exhibited by the Celtic Board in Targetting only second-rate players,(in the opinion of the fans!)should realise ....
Celtic have Hobson's Choice,in the matter.
I am afraid that there will be very few, Big Money Signings in the future,for Celtic.
Eastern Europe, The English Lower Leagues, Scotland...U.S.A... Japan... are all fertile fields, where BARGAINS, can/will be harvested.
Kojo
Yer pal... without reservations.
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Kojo,
What are the chances of Sharlie Joseph, Stephen Appaih midfield next year, to replace Lenny and Tommy G?
Like the McDonald link the Appaiah one has suprised me.
If WGS secures his services i'll will be one happy chappy.
My tally has 8 players departing in the summer:
Balde, Telfer,Magic, Beattie, Miller, Lenny, Tommy Gravesen, Jarosik(possibly).
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Both Bhoys are in a first eleven for Poland tonight.Zurawski in a captain role.
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Kojo,
I think we all know the 6m+ player will be out of reach for us but some said Tommy G and JVoH where out our reach also, so will it be just the same as last season transfer wise?
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Aaarghh... Blogger won't let me delete my own posts. Need to take more care.
Reading yesterday's posts prompted this thought.
Imagine the Daily Record ran with these headlice on the back page the week before a big match.
CELTIC SUMMER CLEAROUT.
ZURAWSKI'S OFFSKI
BEATS BEATS IT
LENNON LEGS IT
MILLER TO GO
JARO'S SICK
DOUMBE DOUBT
GRAV'S SEND OFF
BYE BYE BOBO
We'd be touting the usual conspiracy theories, wouldn't we?
So come on folks, why are we doing their job for them? We still have two trophies to win (essential) this season, and all of those names have a part to play, if not on the park then off it.
Support? Only when were winning?
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Apologizing for the board already Kojo?
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chennaiseabird -
Looks like I am the only true blogger on here, since my name is Curly, as you well know!
Curly
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My take on the Riordan story,
Personally I think its been too big a move for him.
From a flat in Leith to a very large house in Lennoxtoun..Big club,wage car but still wants to be one of the lads..
Also bad choice of location for me..
Maybe he will get the head down now and next season we will see the best of him..
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Don't know if I'm a bit late with this but here goes:
Ted although Patsy Gallacher’s bio “The Might Atom” indicates that he played for both NI and the Free State official records do not verify this, Celtic did have a player called P. Kavanagh who played for both and he might be the first Celt to play for both countries.
As for Scotland on March 9 1889 Willie Groves appeared and scored a hat trick in a game against Northern Ireland and looks to be the first Celtic player capped, although he had previously been capped when with Hibs as did James Kelly and Neilly McCallum when with Renton on the March 17 and March 24 1888 against England and Northern Ireland respectively.
Martin I had the correct answers for Friday’s quiz but as I can’t phost from home I forwarded them to EDB but it seems he was incapacitated at the time and missed the proverbial boat, not only did I have the answers but I assed extras like
14. In which month and year did Jock Stein's career end?
January 1, 1956 after a Maxie Murray tackle, and
9. Against which club did Bobby Collins make his first team debut?
Huns in a surprising 3-2 victory along with fellow debutante Mike Haughney
Also for your question “who did Celtic beat to win the Empire Exhibition Trophy’, didn’t we also win a similar trophy in 1902.
jaymacnowyouknow CSC
PS as for Skippy and Black Sunday, in the penalty shoot out for the 1990 Scottish Cup a former Celt who was on the verge of returning to the club blasted one of the penalties home. No questions of misplaced loyalty then, he was just doing his job was what I heard.
Welcome aboard Rolf.
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Zurawski scored for Poland. Poland Armenia 1:0.
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Plan B?
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Curly
Yes, but in your case the name IS the disguise $:o)
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Tontine Tim :- Thanks for the info, the reference I found had him playing 12 games for Ireland before partition and once for the Free State. Thanks also for the info on P Kavanagh and Willie Groves.
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first fifteen minutes against Italy was really poor and we were punished by losing a goal. But since then we've looked much more comfortable. I'd still like to see the midfield become a bit more bullish. We're giving too many free kicks away. Hopefully we'll come out better in the second half playing better. At times we're capable of getting the ball down and passing well, especially when Naysmith gets down the wing and brown and Miller get the ball in good areas. I don't think we'll get the width from Alaxander. It would be nice to see Maloney get on at some point as we could do with his dynamic play.
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Why does that Tartan bunch still insist on singing about an Austrian sheep?
They are no more than a joke even although they think they are the main event when Scotland play!
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kevtic -
an Austrian sheep ?
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I thought they sung
Doe, a deer, a female deer...
from TSofM
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and Flour of Somewhere
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and The Bluebells Are Blue
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and Yabbadabbadoo We Support The Boys In Blue
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and Scotland the Brave..... well he wiz at Fir Park
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and Mull of Kintyre
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they are the bum-baring, glengarry-wearing, Tennents lager-swilling fun guys of Europe
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Say what you want but the Tartan Army are welcomed and respected all over the world. Much like the Celtics they make a good atmosphere without being intimidating.
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That was meant to be Celtic fans not celtics (don't know how i did that).
Anyway Maloney on for Teale; good decision. Maloney has much better movement and skill than Teale.
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:-(
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The ML2 battalion of the Tartan Army is to be much avoided
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In my book any substantial congregation of loud, kilted doughballs is to be much avoided...
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Although having said that, it's a million miles better than a shower of lager-hoovering Nazis murdering a C.H.Parry classic...
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The ML2 battalion are fascist non-Scot haters and where-were-you-born interrogators
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Ah the Settler Watch brigade.
Makes you proud to be [harrum..cough...]
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No complaints about the score. Bizarre choice of MOTM. :-)
Praise to Scott Brown though.
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MxLeish, there's a hole in your bucket........
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ianinjesi -
who was MOTM, Davie Cooper ?
We watched the Croke Park spectacular here
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WG
Are you goin gout of your way to disparage the manager of your country?
Larsson
PS How's yer pussy?
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Iain McCall chose Barry Ferguson.
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Larsson -
I stay in Scotland as it's near Celtic.
My pussy is on his sixth or seventh life, so still two more left than MxLeish
What about your countrymen tonight ? Oh dear.
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So I wizny far away then, anurra ML bluenose,...... shocker
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England match utter tripe
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Ian McCall gave the Man of the match to wee barry ,saying he (wee barry) wouldn't look out of place in an Italian top.......:-)
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Iain McCall - is he any relation of that ghinger who gets drunk and falls off cars?
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Fair play to Pat Nevin for standing up for big Mick after both matches.
How was Aiden in Dublin?
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He wudny look oot ay place in a rangers tap either, got the looks, the lot:
Latest Headlice :
BARRY, KING OF BARI
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hooppla,
I don't think so but the 2 of them played for rangers. (i think)....:-)
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WG
I was hoping no one would notice that we had been beaten by those guys who don't like Mr. Lennon.
Äsch brunn , den där er liv
God natt och Gud välsigna all på här
Larsson
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BARRY - THE BOTHWELL & BAR-L BARESI OF BARI
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ianinjesi -
wee bursts of trickery here and there, a bit like what we're used tae (brilliance then runnin intae yetis), subbed near the end
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I don't think he'd look out of place in an Italy top either - provided he was, for example, smashing shop windaes on Paisley Road at the time...
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Cheers WG!
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Larsson -
sleep good and God bless you an aw
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Anyway back to the real stuff on saturs.....
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dundee united have three first-team regs missing it would seem ,canny remember the household names in question
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We must avoid all manner of Tay Bridge disasters and soundly defeat the Tannidiceans thus sending a clear message to the darnelite forces of Beelzebubb
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we must terrorise the terrors and arrest the arabian resurgence
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we must tame the tangerines and outwily the George Foxers
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Curly-
"only true blogger ?"
I don't think so.........
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we must douse the dundonian danger
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I hear that since their shock elimination from the World Cup, Pakistan have decided to stop playing cricket.
They're going to take up Bob slaying instead.
Cap & pads on & heading for the pavilion.....
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larsson-
sorry mate -
but my team-
the one where the support DON'T boo Celtic players-
won 1-0 tonight.
Roon ye.
alecmcleishsluckjustranootloyal.
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we must leave Levine lachrymose and looking like a little lost lamb fae Lochee
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we must justify our future jubilation in the jute, jam and journalism jungle of Jim McLean
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we must clout the Coupar Angus cattle cuddlers of Clepington Road
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We must saunter serenely past the Soapy Soutar soccerstars of Glebe Street, DD
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WG-
shut it.
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we must eat their rolls n mince
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and pehs n pays
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and spy oan St Joanstin oan the wey hame (n thank thum fur knockin oot the mothers)
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on the striker debate, i think rolando bianchi at reggina is worth a look...right age...good record in serie A.....fast,brave,2 good feet,good in the air....whats not to like....
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barcabhoy -
he's no Scott McD......
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wg
neither was henrik
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barcabhoy -
I don't watch much football outwith Celtic and Arsenal so canny comment at all on your man but there will be others here who verily can....
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we need anura Naka annadice extravaganza, netting with knee, neck, ankle and noggin if nec
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winningemmell
have you a partner
a family
a friend
a phone
a wipe clean keyboard
0141 847 0447
they tell me there is something about winningemmell that makes him desirable.
winningemmell Lays down his life for the sheep.
and I'm no even trying.
John 10:11)
don't
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Once upon a time I would recognize a Scotland Internationalist from 100 paces.
Tonight I barely knew half of the players and even then I did not know which clubs they played for.
So what does that tell me?
Cheers,
Martin.
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we need Gordon to galvanise the groggy green gladiators of G40 in order to garner the glory we greedily grasp
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WDH -
I have none of those things apart from my imaginary friends....... are you for real ?
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mccall picks bazza as man of the match
(before the kick off)
hail hail
www.tictalk.org
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bore me
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I don't know the drill
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just for the record im called the wee man for height reasons nothing else,yees here me nothing else!
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winningemmell
always avoid abhorrent alliteration, and abolish
any addict accordingly
hail hail
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If we do sign SM do you think the racist dug, who is probably off to a Klan meeting, will claim he was right all along and it was us who mistook SM for Mollie?
Cross a' burnin cross a' burnin
SB
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wickedy wickedy whatever
what are people opinions on the performances of the of (sorry) players and potential players.
i saw 30 mins of the game tonight and to me 2 things stuck out
1. how outclassed everyone looked including bazza
2. scott brown has narrower shoulders than my gran
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WGS
Ye bricht yer bonnie and yer....
Fawldee Roldee, Doodle-um- Day!
Who am ah?
Contrary to the premium rumour o' the day,
Thur ur nae signposts,to Parkheid, posted on da Appiahn Way!
Concernin' da tail, o da restless Fox Cub...?
It's ALIVE and it's, Kickin',
and is as spicy and juicy as ....
Kentucky Fried Chicken!
The Rumbles ur increasin' as Juno approaches,
The reason, of course is thur ur too many darn Coaches,
Who are crowdin' the High Ways and Byways oot in da, STICKS.
In the hope anither Henrik,is hidin' amangst... da Hay Ricks!
Nevah gie up da ship,or da Coach or da Mare,
Cos' Ah t'ink Henrik's Clone, has bin be found!...so dinnae despair!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin',Awaggin'
The time fur ma Kibbles n' Bits
It is here,
But Ah'll politely refuse tae partake any, my dear......
If ye don't know da reason, then it's a big shame on you!
Fur it's already poisoned Four Dugs, a cat... and four Coos!
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Majic scored a belter tonight. The guy needed a break after the Summer. He will fire us to the Championship.
SB
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When the aspertions are being cast like confetti over the veracity of blog names, may I remind everyone that Plato was indeed, a Tim!
Good night from a truthful Platcave!
KERRANG! CSC - ROCK ON - PLAY IT LOUD - WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME
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Collie
Does your white hood have 6 holes? 2 for your eyes and 4 for your paws?
SB
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When some people mention "Black Sunday", it seems that it`s one player or another being blamed for this. I always believe that Celtic win as a team & lose as a team.
To say that it was Bellamy`s fault,or Sutton did this & Jackie did that insinuates that one person lost us the league.
We lost the league over a whole season. We should not have been in that situation in the first place whereby we needed to beat that lot. It should have been a day where our young Bhoys were let out to have a kick about against those from Fir Puke.
Hail Hail
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Seanbhoy
their retric is often too indulgint
but I'm one to talk.
Keep keeping them in check.
non kfc csc
chin cin
Dyslexia is not a blue bage ? Badge ?
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Plato
Was he a real Tim or an Ideal one?
Are you a real Plato or just a shadow on the wall?
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chennaiseabird @ 2.02
Ah do not think Plato was the original...Socrates taught him everything he knew. And Plato in turn had his thoughts and opinions refined by his most astute student Aristotle...The Teacher of..
Tthe Man who Conquered the World...
Welcome Mac.....You now have the Chance of Immortality or legendary status....Nice work if you can get it right?
.....Will you try your very very best?
Are we signing anyone called Alexander...?
Gordonhasyingyang/studentteacher CSC
PS As I said before...Magic is.....Magic!!!!
KTF Y'All
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PJBhoy
You mean Plato was the shadow of another man? So Plato's shadow is just the shadow of a shadow? This is getting too....sophistical...for me.
Anyway, I agree Magic must not disappear. And Alexander would have to be great. Although another Socrates would be just fine.
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chennai -
Yon Achilles was a richt heel.
Did ye get my message on yer bloag?
Curly
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Evander Sno has an injury to his left knee and could be out for the rest of the season.:-(
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ianinjesi, you beat me to it! Sno lasted only 3mins last night of the Holland U21 game - was taken straight to hospital. Don't like the vibes - sounds like it could be cruciate - if it was only medial ligaments I'm not so sure he'd be rushed straight to hospital. Can everyone on CQN please keep fingers crossed today till we hear further news?
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Be a real shame if Sno is injured. Was lookig forward to seeing him get a lot more exposure between now and the end of the season.
Along with O'Dea and Sheridan.
Get better soon Sno man!
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A Celtic Goalscorer from last night
Majiec
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Nice bit of work that from MZ
If he comes back into form, it will feel like a new player next season!
HH
tpb
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watchow @ 23:53,
I thought Bazza was Scotland's best player- although McCall's suggestion that he would get a game for Italy was laughable.
If Eck had started with Maloney and Boyd, instead of Teale and Miller, Scotland might have posed more of a threat.
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Someoen was talking about Mick McCarthy and Baptie the other day. Just over 2 mnutes into this clip it shows the punch.
Its amazing how time plays on your memory as I always remember it as Baptie going stright down and Mick walking stright off.
Big Mick
taken from KDS.
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Part of the deal?????????
Motherwell manager Maurice Malpas will leave Scott McDonald out of his team to face Celtic next week after the Australian striker agreed a summer move to Parkhead.
The 23-year-old will join Celtic at the end of the season for a fee of around £700,000 but Malpas will spare him the task of facing his future team-mates on April 7 although he has confirmed McDonald will not be frozen out at Fir Park.
Malpas said in The Sun: "He´ll play against Dunfermline on Saturday but he won´t be involved against Celtic as that would put too many people under pressure."
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I don't know if El Gordo read my 14.21 post from yesterday but it seems Darth Walter did.
I'm just away to check my lottery numbers`¬)
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At 28/03/07 18:59, WGS said…
"What happens in a week Saturday against Motherwell?
Surely Celtic would have asked for McDonald not to play as part of the deal?
Then again maybe not!!"
Indeed WGS, as stated in the contract he must not play against Celtic in the meantime. However, the meeja of course have a different take on things: "Well to axe McDonald".
...if you didn't laugh (at them) you'd cry!
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I found the following article wrapped around a deposit in the "doggie bin" in my local park, and thought I would share it with you all, as it is remarkably interesting for something printed in the publication in question:
"SCOTT WON DREAM SWITCH THE DAY HIS GOALS LOST CELTS THE TITLE
By Gordon Parks
RICHIE FORAN last night admitted new Celtic signing Scott McDonald was left distraught at scoring the double that denied his boyhood heroes the title two seasons ago.
But the former Motherwell striker believes it was the moment the Australian earned his dream move to Parkhead.
McDonald this week agreed a £750,000 deal to join the club whose heart he broke in May 2005.
But Foran revealed to Record Sport the emotional turmoil McDonald suffered in the immediate aftermath of the last-day drama that cost Celtic the championship.
He said: "It wasn't until he was back in the dressing room after the game that the consequences of what Scott had done started to kick in. He had friends and family in the crowd who were Celtic fans and the realisation his goals had deprived Celtic of the title clearly affected him.
"Most players who score a double against either of the Old Firm would have been jumping around and gloating but that certainly wasn't the case.
"It wouldn't be fair to go into much detail but there were mixed emotions after the game and Scott just sat there quietly trying to come to terms with it all.
"He was quiet and subdued and certainly there were others who were jumping around but the wee man was having none of it.
"He was aware he had ruined their big day and as a Celtic fan himself it was hard for him to take."
Foran, who left Fir Park for Southend United three months ago, admits his old striking partner's dramatic goals put him on the Old Firm radar.
He said: "During the game he had a job to do and he did the business with two late goals which will always be remembered. But it was an example of how professional he is.
"He made his name in that game and it may even have earned him this move to Celtic. If he hadn't scored the goals that broke their hearts then he might never have won a deal at Parkhead - which proves how perverse football can be.
"I honestly believe scoring twice and handing the title to Rangers was the moment he proved he was destined for bigger things."
The Irishman is adamant McDonald will ease himself into life as a Celtic player and will be bursting to make a quick impression.
He said: "I have no doubt he can make the step to playing for Celtic as he showed at Motherwell he's more than capable of playing at a higher level. He was the one player who always scored and caused problems against the Old Firm whenever we faced them.
"I know it would be a dream move for me to sign for Celtic so it will be the same for Scott and if they offered him a 10-year deal he would sign it.
"I'm delighted for him and when I received a text from my mate telling me he'd signed on at Parkhead I was thrilled for him as I knew he'd be able to get me tickets.
"He'll be desperate to be a success but it may take him a bit of time to adjust.
"Rangers attempted to take him to Ibrox in January and I know his family weren't too keen, so it's all worked out brilliantly for him.
"He will be incredibly proud and he has the ideal personality to play for a club of that stature.
"We've both been in the company of Celtic lads and it's a totally different responsibility being an Old Firm player. They are always being recognised while we weren't given a passing glance.
"That's all about to change for Scott and I'm sure he'll handle it brilliantly."
McDonald's summer departure from Fir Park is a hammer blow for Well boss Maurice Malpas but Foran insists it's just another example of his old club's place in Scottish football's food chain.
He said: "Motherwell just can't afford to turn down the kind of money Celtic have paid for Scott, although the fans will be hurting.
"I hope they don't hold the manager to account as he has brought in money that helps to keep the club afloat.
"Maurice will be able to bring in two or three players with Scott's transfer fee. They may not be as good as Scott but he's a top talent.
"Hopefully there will not be an exodus from the club but the harsh reality is players see clubs like Motherwell as a stepping stone to bigger things."
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How did Miller get on for Scotland last night? Did he provide any fresh hope for the future as far as his Celtic 'career' goes?
And what about the other Bhoys? McManus, Hartley, Beattie?
I flicked around between the Ireland, NI and Scotland games and missed big chunks of each. Mostly stayed with the Croke Park game.
Ireland improved a lot from Saturday and apart from losing the ball a few times Aiden did ok. Hopefully he'll stay in the team now and grow in confidence. He seems a lot more nervous playing for Ireland than he does for Celtic, maybe he doesn't feel at home yet with the Irish lads.
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Bigchipsuk, I see you'd already answered my Miller question just before I posted. No new hope then?
Great goal from Majiec by the way - now that's the sort of striker we'd like to get back in the Hoops! Fresh hope there perhaps!
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This wanderer wonders where that wonderous wordsmtih winningemmell is? Would that he could waylay us once again with his wickedly witty wordplay... Well?
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TyrCel-KM did enough to suggest that there's no need to cancel the taxi.Mick was OK,possibly at fault for the first goal but Luca Toni is a handful in the air.Had one excellent tackle in the box.Hartley was quiet,Beats was only on at the last minute.
Highlight of the game for me was Gabby Logan's face at halftime,when she gave the England score.She was trying hard to be detached and professional but she had a lovely Welsh smile as she broke the news!
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Bigchips, that's a very reassuring article on McDonald (or should that just be Scott now?)
Some great quotes there from Foran.
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greenlion2
im sure the punch and straight up the tunnel was versus hearts and it was oor tosh that took the blow that day from big mick.
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Re-posted with word change from "*rse" to "backside" to avoid language violation!
From www.TEAMtalk.com:
"Celtic will hope for improved news on midfielder Evander Sno's fitness after he suffered a knee injury on duty with the Holland Under-21 side.
The 19-year-old was forced off in the early stages of the Dutch youngsters' match against the Republic of Ireland on Tuesday.
Sno has undergone tests on the injury, which could force him to miss the rest of the season if it is confirmed he has sustained cartilage damage.
Reports in Holland claim Sno may have sustained meniscus damage to his left knee."
It can't be that serious then if he is going to be out for "the rest of the season", as the season will be as good as over in around three weeks.
And what about Kenny Miller last night for Scotland? It's a good job he didn't go over for a penalty, as he would never have scored it... In fact he looked as though he wouldn't have been able to hit an elephant from ten feet with a sawn off shot-gun!
There was the one where Ferguson played a pass down the right wing (to Teale, I think), and Kenny got his arse in the way of the pass. Then by the time he'd got the ball under control and tried to play it forward Teale(?) was in an offside position.
Then there was the one where he was in the way of another Scottish player's shot and tried an overhead kick from one yard out (not knowing at the time of execution that he was offside), and he contrived merely to have the ball bounce off him and drop harmlessly away from the goal. It would have been more effective if he'd just ducked and let the original shot go into the net under it's own steam (even though it would have been disallowed because Kenny was offside!).
Personally I think that Maloney and Boyd should have been on from the start in place of Teale and Miller, with Boyd under instruction to "work your blxxdy socks off or you're dropped for the next game!".
Never mind, 0-2 away to the World Champions, with a fairly positive performance from the Scots, is by no means an embarrassment.
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What I don't understand is why announce it now? Celtic obviously don't as there's no statement, but Malpas has come out with stuff about how he's not sure how the Motherwell fans will react. So why make things complicated for him by telling everyone!
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Since a few people have mentioned Big Mick (McCarthy) again I thought I'd re-produce this wee story about Mick which I posted the other night. A lot of you probably didn't see it because it was posted late at night. Maybe this doesn't sound like such a great story but my conversation with Mick was a lot funnier than I can put into words.
"I was at the 'historic' Ireland v Wales match in Croke Park last Saturday (I'm normally there watching GAA all the time) and despite the Irish victory it was a very disappointing game. It would have been much, much better of course if Aiden and Darren had been playing for the 90 minutes!
(I was angry that Aiden only got a couple of minutes at the end, especially with so little excitement on the pitch all day - now he's playing against Slovakia when I'm not there!).
Anyway, the point of my story is that the day (eventually) turned out to be a cracker because my ticket source (a GAA official) had got me and my father-in-law two tickets for the VIP section of the Hogan Stand and two passes for the post-match reception afterwards, which was attended by over 100 former Irish internationals.
Everywhere we (I subsequently managed to get three more friends inside) looked there were familiar faces throughout the reception room and we had great fun at the free bar for a while with players like Phil Babb, Terry Phelan, Curtis Fleming, Keith O'Neill, Graham Cavanagh and Chris Morris, getting our photos taken with them all. I had a good chat with Chris about his time at Celtic.
We met many other famous ex-players and my father-in-law was in heaven meeting and chatting to his heroes from the forties, fifties and sixties in particular.
But there was one conversation we had that was way ahead of the rest, and it was with Big Mick (McCarthy).
Mick spoke to us for 20 minutes and I just couldn't believe how friendly and funny he was. I'd always liked the man but after sampling his personality up close he rose greatly in my estimation.
The ice was broken when he called my father-in-law a 'four letter word beginning with C' for his inability to take a photo of the two of us on my digital camera (he got the photo taken eventually!), with Mick then explaining himself by stating he 'Can't Use New Technology'!!!
Mick then had us laughing for the next 20 minutes and the funniest part was when after I told him that I'd been 100 per cent on his side in the World Cup row and that there was a part of me unhappy after Keane (who I still hadn't forgiven for walking out on Ireland) signed for the Celts, he said that he ended up supporting Rangers for as long as Keane was at Celtic and suddenly burst into a rendition of the 'B---- Boys' in the middle of the reception! I advised him not to sing that one so loud but then suggested that nobody was likely to confront Big Mick no matter what he was singing.
I said to him that he must have heard that song quite a bit when he was with the Celts and he laughed that it was still ringing in his ears from those days.
He was so open about everything and basically said that Keane wasn't really the 'wisest' man on earth (stronger words than that of course!)
I assured him that he was very fondly remembered by Celtic fans and that I'd recently enjoyed reading a few stories on CQN about him sorting out a few opponents during his time in Glasgow. He said the Old Firm games were pure bedlam for 90 minutes (and impossible to take any of it in) and that they look a lot more peaceful nowadays, and when I asked him if there was any bruising encounter that really stood out from his Celtic days he referred to a Falkirk match (I didn't know what game he was talking about!)
Anyway, I'll not go into absolutely everything that was said but it was certainly great fun for the full 20 minutes in his company - and when I thanked him and told him it had been a great honour that he had taken so much time out to be so friendly to us, he concluded by saying that he talks to everybody and added that 'FFS I'm even talking to RK these days!'
The annoying thing about the reception was that while I'd been talking to other players I missed the opportunity to meet and get a photo with another famous Celt, big Packie, who had just left as I was looking around for him.
But it still turned out to be a great evening in the end.
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is the Blog broke?
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Hello.
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone home?
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SOAL.... I fixed the blog.... I thank you...
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Martin42 :- Re your post from last night on not recognising half the Scotland team. I find the same problem myself though in my case it may be that I'm not a great follower of international football. Another couple of reasons come to mind, if you go back a while most of the Scotland team were well known "stars" either due to playing with Rangers or Celtic or in the case of other Scots based players acknowledged as the best, e.g. the Miller/McLeish partnership. English based players were also often well known Law, Souness, Dalgleish types who could hold their own in any team and competed at the highest levels in both England and Europe. This no longer seems to be the case and most of our team now seem to come from lower down teams which lack the recognition factor.
The other reason I can think on is that in previous times the international team was competing for a place in finals on a fairly regular basis and excited the fanbase, this became erode during the dire years of Roxburgh and Vogts playing dreary defensive football with now "wow" factor. This in many ways led to folk switching off from paying attention to the national team and in many ways this attention has still to be refound. I don't know if any of those reasons are your own but I agree with you that there does seem to be a lot less interest among many folk.
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Come on, now.
I hear youre feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain,
Get you on your feet again.
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SOAL :- Are we back on the subject of WG's gout again :-)
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Yeah, said its all right
I wont forget
All the times Ive waited patiently for you
And youll do just what you choose to do
And I will be alone again
AL
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It's just me myself and I
It's just me myself and I
It's just me myself and I
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it's. oh. so quiet
it'a oh. so still
you're all alone
and so peaceful until...
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Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence
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I hear the ticking of the clock
I'm lying here the room's pitch dark
I wonder where you are tonight
No answer on the telephone
And the night goes by so very slow
Oh I hope that it won't end though
Alone
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soAL and EdwardUrsus
WG - does the gout continue?
Larsson
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hello darkness my old friend
ive walked into the wall again
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And now I'm all alone again
Nowhere to turn, no one to go to.
Without a home, without a friend
without a face to say hello to
But now the night is near
And I can make-believe he's here
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My computer is playing up.
I tried to get on to CQN and it keeps taken me to the NME.
Help
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HELP!
HELP! I NEED SOMEBODY,
HELP! NOT JUST ANYBODY,
HELP! YOU KNOW I NEED SOMEONE, HELP.
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Hello again, hello
Just called to say hello
I couldnt sleep at all last night
And I know its late
But I couldnt wait
hello
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Well, someone told me yesterday
That when you throw your love away
You act as if you dont care
You look as if youre going somewhere
But I just cant convince myself
I couldnt live with no one else
And I can only play that part
And sit and nurse my broken heart, so lonely
So lonely, so lonely, so lonely
So lonely, so lonely, so lonely
So lonely, so lonely, so lonely
So lonely, so lonely
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Oh, What the Hell,
A-WOP BOP A LULA A- WOP BAM BOOM....
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tom the tim
welcome to the CQN name that tune
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Magic looked his old self again last night, let's hope that goal gives him his appetite back for the SPL.
I think he was also captain last night, take not WGS !
So fingers crossed, it's a JVoH and Magic pairing on Sat lunch time.
Need to rest Miller after all those second touches last night :-)
PS. Sorry to interrupt with a football post.
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Tyrone Celt
loved the mick mccarthy stuff! unfortunately for you,u didnt make it to Croker last nite. the match and the atmosphere was 100 times bettter than on Saturday. mcGeady did ok,showed a couple of nice touches,but gave the ball away too easily other times. As someone on the blog commented,he definately looks more nervous playing for ireland than the celts.
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Seanbhoy 23.51
Give it a rest will you?
Re the Scott McDonald signing Collie's clue of a few months ago was on the button.I should know it was one of the few I manged to crack !
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Think I saw you in an ice cream parlour,
Drinking milk shakes cold and long,
Smiling and waving and looking so fine,
Don’t think you knew you were in my song,
And it was cold and it rained so I felt like an actor
And I thought of maw and I wanted to get back there
Your face your race the way that you walk
I kiss you your beautiful I want you to talk
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Right, i love music as much as the next man, but let's have a bit of a football/Celtic topic to put us back on track:
Who should our midfield consist of from now until the end of the season (both pre and post SPL title confirmation) given that E.Sno looks like he'll miss the remainder?
I'mawaybacktoworkanywayCSC
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I'll go one better, team to win the league:
Boruc
Wilson
Naylor
McManus
Pressley
Lennon
Hartley
Nakamura
McGeady
JVofH
Zurawski
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TheLeftWinger :- Beware of hubris :-) going by recent results there may not be a post title game.
E.U clutchingstrawsRSC
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TMC
Thought McManus will be missing for a few weeks?
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EDB
Deja vu all over again! O'Dea in for McManus - I still haven't heard it confirmed he's out for 3 games though?
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What's up with Mick?
Larsson
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He tickled Carl Finnigan and received a straight red for violent conduct.
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Oops, forgot all about that. How long ago does that seem?
Anyway, internationals out of the way, let the march to the title continue
Hail the Hoops
Larsson
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Pleased with the capture of Scott McDonald. He is a proven goal scorer & will get goals in the hoops. I'm not interested in his past & i'm convinced he will give us a genuine goal threat in the SPL. Reminds me of penalty box strikers like like Frank McDougall, John Robertson, Andy Walker & we haven't had one of those for a while. It also hints to me that Strachan is considering a shift in formation because McDonald is not one of those strikers who works the channels, but if you give him a chance in the penalty box he'll put it away.
We seem to be quietly acquiring good SPL players such as Riordan, Hartley, Caldwell, Pressley, Brown (GK), & now McDonald. My only concern is that we have to address the player balance so that we have players next season who can change a game. Currently we have Nakamura, McGeady & Venegoor of Hesselink.
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We appear to have all four (5 if Riordan is still counted) strikers fit simultaneously for the first time this season(?)
You can only hope that the goal drought will be consigned to history by 2.30pm this Saturday, before ICT go down the A9 to sneak a draw from the baddies.
Now that, and a hassle free house flitting for me, would make a good weekend, ahead of my Monday off!
The future's bright.......
It's green and white
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TLW -
Hope your predictions come true. I am desperate to see us getting back on track with a convincing win.
All the best with the house move.
By the way, I am on holiday from 12:30 tomorrow afternoon!! A whole week away from this place called work - roll on!
Curly
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GL2,
My recollection was exactly the same as yours mate: Big Mick right-handered Baptie who went down like a pile of washin'. Mick then walked straight off down the tunnel!
Amazing how the mind forgets over the years, in fact there was a few of us talking about this i.e. the Mick v Baptie fracas, in Milan and all of us were of the same recollection....strange.
Thanks for the link as it has put me straight. I remember standing in the Jungle but obviously couldn't remember what actually happened.
Thanks again,
TTT
PS - Arthur what have I told ye about that singing of yours before.....gies a brek big man!!!
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TTT
im sure it was the incident with tosh that big mick strolled 20 or so yards landed one and kept walking for the tunnel.
i too was in the jungle for both incidents.
someoneputmeright csc
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Couple of thoughts: could Scott MacDonald be our new Joe McBride? Joe wasn't the greatest player on the park and, if memory serves, Mr Stein got him cut-price. But what a penalty box player with the service he got with Celtic!! Definitely the best I ever saw in the Hoops.
Shouldn't we be hoping that Magic is fit to partner JVOH on Saturday? Aren't they our best in that position?
Lastly, shouldn't Paul Telfer be an automatic choice at right back for the rest of his time at Parkhead?
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Cheers curly,
I assume you weren't away in Bari last night then?
I think that although Mick generally had two decent games for Scotland, the first goal conceded in each game came as a result of him being caught on his heels and a yard off the person he should have picked up.
Maybe a few games to rest and refocus will benefit him in the medium to long term.
In the meantime, young O'Dea should slot back in....providing more of a goal threat than Beattie and Miller....until such time as Caldwell can get a few matches under his belt.
I hope that a week or so without a game has also perked Lenny up, as i think he has struggled over the last month or so, particularly towards the last 15-20 minutes of matches.
Anyway, full steam ahead for teh good ship Celtica!
Ahoy, is that a league flag on the horizon?
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TheToken and TMC I was sure and so were my mates that Mick put him down like Roberto Duran went down then walked straight off. I was laso in teh jungle maybe it was the jungle juice we were taking that made us miss wee bits.
TMC in that clip it says that Mick was sent off at Tynecastle that season im sure not at Celtic park. It may have been a different season.
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I'm hoping that the couple of weeks break from the routine for the many players on International duty will clear any post Milan effects and that they will be mentally, if not completely physically, refreshed for the task of getting the train back on track for the run-in.
Does anyone remember the Mick Mc.Carthy story that Tommy Burns told?
According to TB, as told to the DR, he,Burns, was complaining about a scrappy win at Dunfermline and that it was not football the "Celtic Way". Apparently Mick grapped him by the throat against the wall and explained the finer points of grinding out results when necessary.
A lesson that Tommy failed to heed, I'm afraid.
Disgusting,eh?
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WG get Blue Peter on the real von trappe kids are on. Ancestors of the original family.
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Just a thought, but I wonder if PL had one eye on kit sales in the southern hemisphere when considering McDonald?
And the last few transfer rumours make for interesting world domination thoughts.
McDonald - Australia
Appiah - Africa
Shalrie Joseph - America
Western, Eastern Europe and Asia sorted too.
hmm..GoD? or GoWD!
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Good GoWD!
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Quotes (Wit and Wisdom of Jock Stein)
Celtic
"My time will come!"
(Jock Stein to John Mackenzie of the Scottish Daily Express, prior to European Cup final 1967 after enduring snubs and mind games from opposite number Herrera (Inter Milan Manager)
"Football is nothing without Fans"
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players"
“I'd far rather talk about players, they are the people who make things happen. “
“You're too fond of Charlie Gallagher and Harry Hood. You wouldn't win a league with 11 Charlie Gallaghers or Harry Hoods. “
(Before the European Cup to Hunter Davies (an English Journalist) touring round Celtic and Rangers grounds commenting on Celtic's unpretentious surroundings and Rangers more "cathedral-like stadium")
"Ach, Rangers are alright, but they still haven't invented blue grass"
"If they were interested in what I had to say they would get here in time. The door stays shut!"
(Jock Stein on barring late coming journos to his press talks)
"I think we could win everything in front of us. I think this could be a season to remember."
(Jock Stein to various players at the start of the 1966/67 season, quoted by Archie MacPherson)
"We don't just want to win the European Cup. We want to do it playing good football, to make neutrals glad we won it, please to remember how we did it."
(Jock Stein before the European Cup win in 1967)
(After wining the European Cup)
"We did it by playing football. Pure, beautiful, inventive football".
“There is always a time to move on.”
"This team will never be beaten!"
(Jock Stein to Bill Shankly on bus back, overheard by Bertie Auld)
"Jock, if there were two players, one Catholic and one Protestant. Who would you sign?"
"The Protestant"
"Why?"
"Because i know that Rangers would never sign the Catholic"
(winding up Rangers FC over their bigoted signing policies)
TV Presenter : 'Scott Symon, Rangers manager, what do you think the score will be in the Old Firm match'
Symon : I think 2-0 to Rangers
TV Presenter : 'And you Mr Stein what will the Old Firm score be?'
Big Jock : 'Only a fool would try to predict the score in an Old Firm game'
Surely there are enough Celtic songs without introducing religion or politics or anything else.
(After 1972 game against Stirling when he jumped into the Celtic crowd to stand up to individuals singing sectarian songs)
"It is up to us, to everyone at Celtic Park, to build up our own legends. We don’t want to live with history, to be compared with legends from the past. We must make new legends."
"We all end up yesterday's men in this business. Your're very quicly forgotten."
Jock Stein in Archie MacPherson's book "The Great Derbies: Blue and Green" (1989)
Scotland
“After all, we're a small country. The Finns and Norwegians, you don't get them saying, We're going to win the World Cup. “
(World Cup in Spain 1982 about Scotland fans)
“We do have the greatest fans in the world but I’ve never seen a fan score a goal.”
On others
(on Booby Moore, West Ham and England Defender from 1960s)
"There should be a law against him. He knows what's happening 20 minutes before anyone else." Jock Stein, Celtic manager, talking about Bobby Moore, 1969.
(on Bill Shankley the then Liverpool Manager)
"I don't believe everything Bill tells me about his players. If they were that good, they'd not only have won the European Cup but the Ryder Cup, the Boat Race and even the Grand National!" :
Quotes about Jock Stein
Alex Ferguson
“I always thought Jock Stein was the perfect international manager. But you (England) don't have anyone like that. You don't have Jock Steins, you'll never have a Jock Stein.”
Alex Ferguson
"I am proud to say that I knew Jock Stein as a manager, as a colleague and as a friend... he was the greatest manager in British football... men like Jock will live forever in the memory."
Bill Shankly
To Jock Stein after the 1966 CWC tie with Celtic at Anfield: "Jock, do you want your share of the gate money or shall we just return the empties ?"
To Jock Stein in the Dressing room just after they European Cup (1967)
"John, you're immortal now!"
(Jock in turn just laughed...)
Hugh McIlvaney (journalist) in his documentary Busby, Stein and Shankly: The Football Men 1997
"The greatest manager in the history of the game. You tell me a manager anywhere in the world who did something comparable, winning the European Cup with a Glasgow District XI."
Lou Macari, on becoming Celtic Manager (1994)
"The problem for us is that Big Jock and his players spoiled it for everyone who came after them..."
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snce its quiet. All borrowed from KDS
'The Greatest Team on Earth'
Local billing for Celtic on a visit to the Midlands in the 1890s
'I was told when I joined about Celtic's ''paranoia''. Now I know it is true. We are hard done by. Religously and politically, there are people agaisnt us.'
Liam Brady, Celtic Manager, Octboer 1992
'Even when we played the likes of Raith Rovers or Dunfermline, the referees would be against us. That's because in Scotland it's always a two horse race, and by hurting us, they were helping Rangers.'
Paolo di Canio, 2000
'The game was ninety minutes longs but for me the game lasted as long as my five years as captian and six years without a trophy'
Paul McStay speaking after beating Airdrie in the 1995 Scottish Cup Final
'One of my jobs at the start - and you can write this as a headline - was trying to find out why exactly we had spent some of our money on Rafael Sheidt'
Martin O'Neill speaking in 2004
'We thought it would be impossible. We had seen Real Madrid play and all those teams, Milan and all those and we thought they were magnificent.'
Bobby Lennox speaking in 2003 about the players assesment of success in 1967
'We knew within ourselves, our own ability and we started to believe in ourselves but we never, ever for a minute thought that we would win the European Cup.'
Jinky, 1995
'At that point we had no thoughts about winning the European Cup. In fact it was a big thrill for us to just go to Zurich because we had never been there.'
Bobby Lennox speaking in 2003 about Celtic's opening tie of the European Cup 66/67.
'I feel we have the players fit to wear the mantle of champions of Europe. I have told them so. Now it's up to them.'
Jock Stein after beating Vojvodina Novi in the QF of the European Cup, 1967
'It's not that they weren't penalties - it's just that they're the kind of penalties nobody else gets!'
Not the View fanzine in 2003 after Rangers were awarded three penalties in their 2-2 draw with Dundee in May 2003
'Martin did have one thing going for him when he arrived up there in Glasgow - he didnt need to work too hard to get fans to come to the ground. All he had to do was tell them it was a Saturday! What a luxury, massive home crowds virtually guaranteed.'
Brian Clough on MON, 2002
'I don't see anything postive about my performance in the final. Scoring two goals in a final doesn't mean anything if you lose. All I wanted was for Celtic to win the cup.'
Henrik Larsson speaking after Seville, 2003
'I thought they were great and deserved everything they got.'
Paul Lambert on Porto, 2003
'I don't beleive 50,000 fans will travel to Seville. Thats is madness, an exaggeration. I think a fair number will be around 4,000. We are talking about a final being played on a Wednesday, a day when people normally work.'
Rafael Carmonna, security cheif for the 2003 Uefa Cup final
'It was just an accident waiting to happen.'
John Barnes on the 3-1 defeat to ICT in 2000, speaking in 2002
'I probably did 15 or 20 years as a manager in those three years.'
Tommy Burns on his three years as Celtic manager under Fergus McCann
'A publicity stunt.'
Fergus McCanns view on the appointment of Lou McCari by the board he was trying to oust.
'Unsporting conduct.'
FIFA's verdict on fining Le Petite Merde £3,500 for going back on his announcement to sign for Celtic, 1989.
'I'll finish my career here. I don't want to play for any other club.'
Le Petite Merde at a press conference confirming his return to Celtic from Nantes.
'There's as much chance of McAvennie leaving as there is of us losing 5-1 tomorrow.'
Billy McNeil speaking in 1988. The next day Celtic lost 5-1 to Rangers and McAvennie eventually left for West Ham
'The UEFA Cup is not just one notch up from what we're used to, we are talking about four or five notches.'
MON, 2003
'The gaffer said it was men against boys out there.'
Blackburn captain Gary Flicroft on Celtic after the first leg, 2003. Celtic won 1-0
'They should learn a lesson. Never talk untill the game is finished.'
Larsson on Blackburn after the second leg, 2003. Celtic won 2-0
'If Celtic score one then we can score three. Hopefully by 10pm tonight people will be saying 'Bloody hell, that Blackburn are a good side'.'
Graeme Souness prior to the second leg against Blackburn, 2003
'When they attacked we were four players down.'
Tommy Burns on fielding Paolo di Canio, Jorge Cadette, Andy Thom and Piere van Hooijdonk in a UEFA Cup game defeat against Hamburg, 1996
'I only know the first two lines of 'The Sash' because after that we've usually scored.'
Roy Aitken on Old Firm games in the 1980s
'There was hatred in the Old Firm and I soaked it up. I used it to my advantage. I knew perfectly well it was about religion and while, i did not understand or wish to get involved in the dispute, I would feed off it.'
Paolo di Canio, 2000
'When the final whistle blows and you're in front; thats the only moment you really enjoy it.'
MON on Old Firm games
'I've always seen us as the Cavaliers and them as the Roundheads.'
Billy McNeill on Celtic and Rangers
'Even if something had gone wrong on a Saturday and a player had made an obvious mistake, McGrory would never come across and speak to the guy during the week. We never got an ounce of coaching from either McStay or McGrory.'
Alec Boden, ex-Celt, in 2002, on Jimmy McStay, Celtic manager 1940-45 and Jimmy McGrory, manager 1945-65
'I've got a vivid memory from 1965, when it was announced he was coming back from Hibs, of Billy McNeill saying, ''Oh thats fantastic! Wait and see how things change now!''.'
John Divers, 1995 on the return of Jock Stein to the club as manager.
'The best place to defend is the other team's penalty box.'
Jock Stein
'How dare Martin O'Neill ask Rivaldo to go for a trial in America! That is an insult to my client and to football. People will be crying tears of laughter when they hear Celtic wanted to take Rivaldo on trial.'
Carlos Arime, Rivaldo's agent, June 2004
'Without a shadow of a doubt that was my best game for Celtic. With a quarter of an hour to go, none of them would come near me.'
Jinky on Alferdo di Stefano's testimonial speaking in 1995.
'I hit the ball against the goalkeeper. It was just one of those things but I reckon when I did that, that was me finished at Celtic. Jock Stein was like that: he tended to blame you for things. Within a year I had left the club.'
John Hughes on missing a goal-scoring oppurtunity in extra-time of the 1970 European Cup Final with the score at 1-1.
'It will stick in my mind forever that after the game the Celtic players were extremely good sportsmen and, together with their supporters, they gave us a standing ovation when we were receiving the cup.'
Eddy Pieters Graafland, goalkeeper for Feyenoord in the 1970 final.
'That defeat in 1970 took a lot out of the club and took a lot out of the self-belief and everything else. We never quite got back to that level again.'
Billy McNeill on losing the European Cup Final in 1970, speaking in 1998
'We thought they were on something!'
John Hughes, in 2003, talking about meeting an extremely energetic Ajax side in 1971. They went on to win the European Cup that year.
'He is the type of player that makes people come to watch football.'
Rangers midfielder Ronald de Boer on Lubo Moravcik, 2002
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Marvin :- Making signings on perceived future shirt sales maybe has it's advanteges and could lead to a better financial position for the club in the future, however this will only work if the money coming in is spent on a higher class of player. Otherwise it will leaad to a team of money makers rather than a football team.
Are there any figures on how much extra money previous foreign signings have made for the club I know it seems to be in a very healthy situation money wise but wouldn't it be better to sign players on ability to improve the team rather than how much potential earnings they may bring in?
I am fully aware that financial security is important but it has to be balanced against ability and entertainment on the pitch.
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"Only a fool would try to predict the score in an Old Firm game" :)))
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gl2
Thanks for those. I really enjoyed them.
Cavaliers and Roundheads. Never knew Billy had a sense of humour.
Darnel Roundhead. Sounds like a good name for a Crufts winner. A Bulldog, of course.
Well, it's the best chance they've got for a while isn't it, a dog's chance?
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Media Hack: How does it feel Lubo to go from a zero to a hero ?
Interpreter: Lubo, Как оно чувствуют, что идет от нул к герою ?
Lubo: Скажите что задержите в развитии что я не был никогда нул
Interpreter: He told me to tell you that he was never a zero
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Ba'heid for his everyday name of course.
And before you start Mr Ursus, we'd be nice friendly handsome King Charles Spaniels. Everybody loves a spaniel.
Collies are ok as well, but can be a bit nippy when they're working.
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Shug
What about a Terrier?
edb
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Chennaiseabird :- I think there may be a bit of a paradox in being both a roundhead and a King Charles anything lol though I don't suppose a spaniel is too bad :-)
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James
Another good royalist name. Wait a minute, did I just say Royalist?
Did Billy mean that we're the Royalists, they're the Republicans? Ironic as well as humorous?
Anyway edb, you don't mean what about a Tarrier do you? Well, why not?
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Edward
Pairadugs. Spaniel and Bulldog.
Very good indeed sir.
Now, the poodles, that would be the journalists. Or would they be the lapdogs? Choices choices.
Motherwell Shitsu (wg:))
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some more need to head out to pick up the cubs hopefully on later
'I caught the beginning of the stadium. I caught just that wind of change and I remember thinking that when this place is full it is going to be quite an arena. I felt the warmth and swell of the Celtic support.'
Tony Mowbray, 2004
'McCann built a stadium. Oh, whata great great thing. Ceaucescu built pretty amazing stadiums, so did Mussolini. I'm in it for the team. It's like building La Scala and having a run of the mill pub-singer perform.'
Jim Kerr, May 1999
'If you put that wee thing out on the park, you'll be done for manslaughter!'
Jimmy Quin to manager Willy Maley after first seeing Patsy Gallagher
'The Mighty Atom!'
Celtic supporter's nickname for Patsy Gallagher
'We climbed three mountains then proceeded to throw ourselves off.'
Billy McNeil on losing out on away goals, 6-6, to Partizan Belgrade.
I remember Paul McStay saying to Krankl, in very clear English, ' You're a cheat'. The bottle had landed 20 yards away from their player.'
Peter Grant, 2003, on the Rapid Vienna fiasco. Krankl was Vienna's captain.
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There has been mention of Big Mick McCarthy thumping someone at Celtic Park. Wasn't it Tosh McKinlay in his Hearts' persona? If memmory serves (I was in the middle of Jungle) the incident took place at the tunnel at half time. Can anyone confirm this? I know he also thumped Crawford Baptie (of Falkirk or Forfar?) at one time.
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The McCarthy McKinlay incident was during our Scottish Cup game against the huns without the bus fares in 1989.
It was near the half way line. McKinlay went in on Billy Stark, robustly shall we say. Big Mick came over and grabbed him, I dont think he punched McKinlay but he knew he was off.
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greenlion2 09.29 Re Big Mick and Crawford Baptie,i'm pretty sure on another occasion Mick laid Baptie out, in an off the ball incident at Fir Park when Baptie played with Motherwell,it wasnt seen and Mick stayed on the park.
Again maybe my memory is playing tricks.
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Man, it's still murder trying to post on here...another try...
If MacDonald does the business, I just might get to like the name Scott.
I was good to see magic conjuring up a great strike last night. Dear oh dear, it’s what we’ve been wanting from him, let’s hope…
Anyway glad Saturday’s just around the corner. It’s time to get down to business.
Hail Hail
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Mick Mc Carthy cracks Baptie on the jaw.
2 minutes and 10 seconds in.
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Anyone have ideas on what the team will be for this weekend's game.
I don't mean the 11 you'd like to see start but who Gordon will put out on the day?
I'll go for:
Boruc
Telfer
Pressley
O'Deay
Naylor
Nakamura
Graveson
Lennon
Jarosik
JVOH
Zurawski
Any other views?
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Gordon Marshall the Falkirk keeper !!
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Apparently we have not signed a football player but a pop star from Motherwell.
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Rab Douglas Is Alive And Well And Keeping[?]Goal For Norway.
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Noel90 :- I hope you have sent WG a link to the vid on your blog as it seems to be all about his 2nd favourite team :-)
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TV Presenter : 'Scott Symon, Rangers manager, what do you think the score will be in the Old Firm match'
Symon : I think 2-0 to Rangers
TV Presenter : 'And you Mr Stein what will the Old Firm score be?'
Big Jock : 'Only a fool would try to predict the score in an Old Firm game'
*hate tae be pedantic but it was davie white and not scot symon, I know as I watched it on the Friday night preview of the next day's gemme.
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That thought crossed my mind as well........
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This McDonald deal is interesting.
The timing. To get it done now, so quickly, no wheeling & dealing. Just a done deal, it seems. On Celtic's terms? The player could have waited, the club could have waited, that would have been better for them maybe?
And the way the news is breaking. Still not a peep from the club. No big announcement, too late for that. So when it's formally announced, the heat has gone.
I think this is another piece of good business, skillfully conducted.
Drive through Fir Park, Big Mac to go.
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My dear friend, This Man Craig.@15.43...
The team that you selected to win the league,is a good one.
And it may be the one, that does....
However, if I may be so bold as to present my team selection for TANNADICE, this week-end?
It goes like this....
Boruc........... Automatic
Doumbe.........He is a dangerous and speedy raider... and A FINE CROSSER.... I believe that Wilson has been kidnapped by Aliens, and is no longer on Earth.
Naylor......... Stuffy, fine player except needs more "Crossing of the football, Room 101", practice. But, as we have no ready replacement(at the moment!) I will stick with him.
Presley........ Solid Pro, influencial..
O'Dea.......... The Best C.B. of them all.
CALDWELL........ Sno, is now unavailabe......and Caldwell has the makings,.
Naka........... Need I explain??
Hartley........ He should have settled ,by now....I hope?
McGeady....... He is the Maker, that Makes.
Jvoh.......... If He is fit?
Magic.......... See my reasons which I wrote,earlier... He is now ready to Rumble.... note, that he vindicated my prediction ,in his last International...
Strachan needs to break away fromm his mundane selections....a la..... Gravesen..... who will never be a CONSISTENTLY CONSISTENT PLAYER....will the real Thomas,PLEASE STAND UP!
Jiri........ Best description.... He is.... TOO LACKADAISICAL!
He is... TOO NONCHALANT!
He is... TOO APATHETIC!
He is... TOO LANGUOROUS!
He is.... All of the above,besides being ... SO INSIPID, that it Is PATHETIC!!
Leno......Retirement Beckons? Nay! Insists!
Miller...... Don't ask! This is a family site, therefore I am constricted greatly in my choice of lexicon.. in voicing my true feelings.
I repeat...
Strachan, must remove his blinders, the time has come to revolutionise his Tactics.
His present TACTICS have been SUSSED, by the oppo.Managers.
Time for a change.
Kojo.
Yer,pal....in Vegas.
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Apart from that Kojo.
D'ye no think Jiri lacks a sense o'urgency sumtimes?
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Tinytim,
E D B,
BlntyreKev,
You all got mail.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Chennaiseabird, the McDonald deal is interesting for that reason; a new departure for Celtic.
They are pursuing another similar deal at the moment.
Kojo, I would go along with your team for Tannadice. It would be interesting to see how Caldwell got on in the midfield.
Tinytim, I hear you were in good company last night.
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Kojo
I posted earlier to garner opinions on what team Gordon will field this coming weekend.
I have to say the team you have selected will be well removed from that who will win in style this Saturday.
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Missed today, been out and about, did I miss anything?
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My Dear Friend, Chennaiseaboid...
You said it.
I tried.
Der is Trut' in Breviteeeee!
Kojo.
Yer Pal....... throught t'ick and slim.
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There are some less than flattering remarks on the Celtic fc page on wikipedia - second paragraph.
I don't know if anyone on this blog has editing priviledges on wikipedia, but it would be good if the offending comments were removed asap.
Tim_Bhoy
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A number of other comments have appeared since previous post.
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Paul
Not really. Ted Jim and I took the dugs for a walk, but itwas uneventful.
greenlion2 gave us some great quotes though.
I'm going to bed now. Goodnight all.
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Tontine,
I have often wondered about Davy White. He just disappeared off the face of the earth one day and that was that.
I remember watching the News the evening he was sacked and an interviewer asked a bewildered captain, John Greig, returning from training,for his views. The man just mumbled incoherently ,shook his head and walked on.
The other one who was immediately airbrushed out of existence was Ralph Brand, an extremely talented and dangerous inside forward. Gone, vanished, never heard of again.
I wonder does anyone on here have any idea what their crimes were?
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Crossing the finishing line is the hardest part of the race, no one does it with any great style. For that reason for the next few games we stick with what we know and what we trust. That's why my team from earlier gets the nod - Lennon is an absolute must and Wilson gets the nod to play his way into form (like Naylor a month ago).
No Grav, Miller or Jarosik - we know we can't trust them. Grav maybe in the wide open space of Celtic Park but not away from home.
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Greenlion~
Some good stuff there.
On the Rapid Vienna game,still makes my blood boil that one does.
If by chance the drunken idiot that threw the bottle that night happens to read this site,personally i'd like to thank you for depriving us all the chance of making the final that year.
Definately in my all time top five of Celtic Nightmares !!
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Re: McCarty v Baptie.
The referee who sent Mick off was Mike McGinley. His nephew was my best pal back in primary school as remember being told that (at a young age) there weren't many Celtic fans as referees.
He didn't go on to referee for much longer as far as i remember.
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Tom the Tim,
Regarding Davy White, I came into contact with him on a couple of occasions.
He was working for Ian Skelly as a Car Showroom Manager, selling V G and Audi cars in the Skelly's Wishaw showroom.
I bought two Audis from him, he was a very quiet and charming man, no doubt happy to be out of the limelight and pressure that was Ibrox.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Tom The Tim
I'm thoroughly enjoying your exchanges with Tontine Tim who is from my neck of the woods. What a memory he has and indeed a reasoned attitude to all things Celtic back in days when we were far harder done by than nowadays!
Not to say that all is sweetness and light these days.
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E D B,
I sent you mail, did you get it by any chance.
Cheers,
Martin
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Martin42
The pony express never got through.
edb
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AAGH I forgot that b's daughter was on at 9 o clock does anyone know if it is being repeated anywhwere. I saw the alst 30 seconds and when the woman said your mother will get what she deserves from god I nearly cheered.
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My dear friend, Martin...
In your capacity as a Senior Mentor in all things Celtic, may I tap into your fund of Celtic Trivia?
I can? Good!
Last evening, I was entertaining a
former Celtic Stalwart ...of the Fifties.
The conversation, naturally ...was focused mainly in the recent acquisition, from Motherwell.....
Could He be Da ONE?
Has he got what it takes?.....(I don't know what that means,and if he has....then, that begs the question...Will it affect me?...ed)( You are gettin' too, WORDY...re-phrase da question...and leave THREE Double Spaced type-written Copies with my receptionist, and I shall get back to you, as soon as I am free)
According to my guest....McDonald ,SOITENLY DOES.... and he added this...
McDonald, will not be a Back Up for LONG, as he is a Poacher and a Predator....something like... Mr.CHALMERS of my visitor's, era.
Also....
He reminded my visitor of a Soiten..... (NOW THIS IS WHERE .YOU ,MARTIN...COME IN)(Whit?....ed)
Mr. Alec(?) MATHIE.(it could be.. Davie!)
My friend,told me....There was a striker by the name of...
DAVIE(?) MATHIE , who was a bane on the breeks of the Celtic of that era.... late FORTIES....EARLY FIFTIES!
Mathie was a little guy, just like McDonald.... and Did in fact ....Play for Motherwell and subsequently ...CLYDE.....
He was a nippy ......AGGRESSIVE Type of Player....
A WEE NYAFF... was the expression, that poifectly described Mr. MATHIE...
But....
HE SURE KNEW WHERE THE GOAL WAS!
And he frequently rattled dem in... whenever, he Played against Celtic.
In summation....
After listening to My Guest's description it did seem that Mr. McDonald..
COULD BE DA ONE, AFTER AWE,as he has many of Mr. MATHIE'S Attributes, as they were described to me!( So he does have what it takes, after all?...ed)(yes, he does! I am glad that you now understand)( Understand? I don't even know what I said!!)
Anyway Martin, I would be happy if you could add anything to what has been said... in recalling your own remembrances regarding the Pestilential Mathie.( Not my woids!)
Kojo.
Yer Pal...for always and ever.
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Martin 42,
I was interested to read your post last night about being unable to recognise the current crop of Scottish internationalists.
When Scotland were en route to Japan for the Kirin Cup matches last May I was on the same flight to London as the home-based players. Other than Boyd, Burke & Russell Anderson I didn't have the faintest idea who any of the players were.
On matters Celtica, I thought that was a cracking goal by Magic last night. I still believe that if we get him back on track Magic & JVOH would make a really potent striking partnership
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lynott67 at 21:47 I missed that game and the old traford game as I was transferred by my work down south.
I will testify that I was the only guy in a club of 200 Scottish guys watching the highlights that night when the strippers behind me where doing a WEE bit extra for everyone else. I can if my old memory remind me that Manchester United where playing at home that night as it as the game they showed before ours
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Tim Bhoy, Celtic’s Wikipedia page is forever abused by thoroughly intellectual and intense people who are just desperate to bring the name of the club down. Take a look at the ‘discussion’ page for a look at what I mean.
There is a battle raging between those who seek to abuse the club and those who seek to prevent them.
I despair from a distance.
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Re the weekend's impending game at Tannadice I am reluctant to venture a starting eleven as I'm sure Mr Strachan's line-up, with the likely inclusion of Jarosik, will not be in agreement with mine . What I do wish for ,however, is a team who are fully fit and totally committed to scoring goals. Any jaded players or players carrying injuries should be left behind. And oh yes ..a team with an attacking midfiend formation would be a bonus.We do NOT need more than one holding midfield player.
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GL2, sure am.
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Greenlion
Man Who were playing Dundee Utd that night in the 2nd leg of a Eufa cup game. They won 3-1 or 3-2
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its so japenesey you are right thats why they showed both games.
So many memories today its unreal. Do we have any young guys on here.
While I was driving tonight they were talking about how young Scott Brown was and how experienced Mick was (who if you watch it again was not at fault at the first goal) theres only a year between them
I watched most of the game last night betwwen picking the cubs up.
Craig Gordon did not raise his hands for either goals.
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Kojo,
Wracking the innermost recesses of my mind, I do recall the player Mathie that you and your friend discussed.
However the amount of recall I have is small but I do know a man who will have a greater memory of him and I will make an effort to talk to him tomorrow.
If I learn anything about the player, I will post it tomorrow night.
EdwardU andDick Byrne,
I despair sometimes for the future of our international game.
To me, we, as a country seem to be on a par with Wales or Northern Ireland.
I honestly did not know about half of the players in that Scotland team last night.
That cannot be a good thing for football in general.
Perhaps it is all down to me and sometimes I think that the older I get, I seem have no real interest in any football that does not include Celtic.
I never watch any game that does not include Celtic, I cannot abide watching "The Greatest League In T he World"
I do, whenever possible, watch Scotland games on television.
It has been many a year since I stood on a Hampden terrace cheering on Scotland.
I, a long time ago, decided to stop attending Scotland games, the final straw being the Willie O,Kenny D, incident.
I well remember the greatest Celtic Player Ever being booed by the Mount Vernon end of Hampden and the W O/K D incident was the final straw for me.
However I still supported the team and readily recognised each and every player until the present lot .
Rant over, will post tomorrow night about Mathie.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Martin42
I agree, Davy White always came over as a courteous, mannerly type of man. Quiet spoken and respectful,
He managed at an impossible time for anyone trying to match what was happening at Celtic Park at that time. To his credit, he ran us close a few times and got them to a Cupwinners Cup Final.
There must be someone around who has the inside track on the reasons for his sudden departure, because he certainly was not replaced by anyone as successful.
I don't recall anyone called Mathie with Clyde or M'well in the 40's or 50's who caused us bother. Do you?
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GL2
I'm still in the twilight of my youth with a few birthdays to come before i even hit my 30's!!
TLW:YouthfulExuberanceCSC
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GL2
Another young haun here, 80's was the decade to be born!
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Greenlion2
I'm at my wits end trying to keep my paranoia at bay when it comes to pundits, especially at Scotland games.
I listened to Billy Dodds (ex Rangers) on Saturday going on about how when Kris Boyd went off that was the er, scoring threat over.
Craig Beattie put one in after Mr Boyd had sclaffed a few and there was none of the, well what do I know, type apologies, any honest pundit would have honestly came up with.
All Billy and Chic and Willie Miller could talk about (honourable exception of Richard Gordon) was what a jammy goal it was, Craig are you not emabarrased to score etc.
If it was the beloved Boydo, it would have been "the mark of a true striker" yawn, yawn. Me, paranoid?
Cos that what the pundit game is. Precious few of these guys offer anything on air that none of us guys could offer just as easily, even my mrs tells me that!
The other night Gordon Smith got stuck into Stephen McManus repeatedly for the first goal. Maybe he was at fault, but the goalie never moved a muscle, in fact if us old haunds can ratify this, did a Stewart Kennedy, and not a peep!
In Itaky, Barry Ferguson got MOTM but in fairness to Bazza, he didn't play that badly, and looked amazed at any Scottish player being awarded anything.
It was just the rules of the comp that one Scottish player had to be offered shampoo, no matter how inept anyone was.
A bit embarassing all round that the Beeb run a comp that a bottle of bubbly gets handed out immediately after a match we get gubbed in.
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My dear friend, Jerome67
I feel yer pain.
Ouch!
I know that Strachan has shown that he can pull the Not infrequent Rabbit from the Chapeau, time after time.
Nevertheless, there comes a time in te Tides o' man(Tides?....ed)( Waita tila da enda!)when the Tide goes agin' him...
Well, right NOW..it sure looks like one o' dem times has arrived!
Dame Fortune, is fair fed up, and she just informed all and sundry , that she is now officially eschewing the Ritual Retrieving the Chestnuts of Gordo, for good.
Much too much of a good thing, strangely enough, encourages the alternative.
His Luck has evaporated,as was proven in the Falkirk Fiasco....
Hartley's shot cum cross,hitting the Inside the post!
Missing a Penalty?
Ridiculous.
Missing at least Four Goal -scoring oportunities agin the G. A.?
Balderdaopportunitiessh!
The Portents say( whit dae the know?....ed)( Now, that ye mention it, who are they,anyway?....sounds like a good name for a Rock Band!)
Anyhow, to continue....
The Portents say that Tannadice could be for da whole ball o' wax!
And I for one..completely agree with them, whoever they may or not be!
As you have remarked in your communication...
Strachan could/will prove to be intransigent and refuse to see the light,and change his thinking/tactics.
I sincerely hope that he realises that his plans must Include the Exclusion, of the usual suspects.
I am beginning to regret the little episode,that I was involved in....two weeks ago....
when dat darn Black Cat.....well.... fuggetaboutttit!
Whose superstitious,anyway?(Me!.....ed)(Hmmmmmm!)
Kojo.
Yer pal.... for Always and a Day!
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gl2
i missed mummys war as well - there was a 60th birthday party celebration for elton john on itv1.
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big fat rotten potato head sam allardyce has said he is willing to sell uncredible sulk nicolas anelka.
anelka has said he wants to play cl football next season.
any takers?
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TomtheTim :- I'm afraid you have it wrong about Mr White taking Rangers to a CWC final, this was acheived by Mr Symon twice and then Mr Waddell when we lifted it. Mr White was appointed shortly after the 67 final in November of the 67/68 season.
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My dear friend, Martin,
It was unfair of me to ask you, for that type of info...as after all...Mathie's presence with Clyde or Motherwell...was not the most important memory that you would Cherish, after Fifty odd, years...
But I can assure you if my friend said that Mathie did exist and was a thorn in the solar plexus of Celtic , then my friend was not mistaken....
He was in a prime position to observe every twist and turn of the Little Pest!
Keep diggin'......
It has now become a matter o' interest/
Kojo.
Yer pal... till da end of time.
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Newtaggsy,
you're preaching to the converted...
Still to hear a peep about Weir getting caught underneath the cross for the second.
Can't bear International matches anymore.
I supported Scotland passionately from Argentina '78.
Hearing Paul McStay geting booed every time he touched the ball against Bulgaria at Hampden in the early 90s started my apathy towards my national team.
Seeing John Kennedy, getting assaulted without so much as anybody showing any concern for him, never mind giving him "hauners" sickened me.
I'll let Celtic fly the flag for Scotland from now on.
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Kojo :- I don't know if this is any help but there was a David Mathie played for Motherwell in 1947. Whether he was a thorn in Celtics side I couldn't say as the only info I have on him is his being involved in what is described as a violent incident with Willie Woodburn of Rangers
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Kojo :- Further to the above, he was the Motherwell centre forward so it looks like it's your man, hopefully Martin will be able to fill you in further
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ValeBhoy,
I have a similar story in that I used to go to most Scotland games as young boy with my dad/uncles/cousins, through my teens, until the the Scotland v England game in 1989 I think it was (they beat us 2-0, Gascoigne scored and I think Steve Bull scored the other).
Anyway Peter Grant came on as sub and I applauded him only to be told "stop clapping that wee f***** b******".
I stupidly retorted "why? hes wearing a Scotland jersey!" to be told "he's a durty wee taig and if you clap him again I'll rip yer f****** heid aff".
I should point out here that not one of my fellow Scotland "fans" spoke up in my defence (including my so-called mates of the time!)
Needless to say I left a minute or two afterwards and only returned for the Italy game last year (or was it 2 yrs ago now??? you know the one, KM actually scored in it!!!) because I got a couple of free tickets.
Like you I'm a Celtic supporter first and foremost and a Scotland sympathiser a very distant second.
Give me another Celtic European Cup victory over a Scotland World Cup triumph every single time by the proverbial mile!!!
Cheers
TTT
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theres been a bit of chat earlier about big mick lampin crawford baptie,apoliges if anyone has already written that he is now a worker in the main offices at celtic park
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Bazza 'Prominent Scot' ?
hail hail
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Hail Hail The Celts Are Here!
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Test
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what the heck do we care?
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Paul,
G’Day!
Couple Interesting points there!
’I bet you don’t get your money so easily.’
Begs the question - how much is anyone worth?
Guess – the going rate!
But – what is the going rate?
Lets for example take three 23 year old footballers - fringe internationalists from average football nations.
1. Craig Beattie (there’s only one.…ok back to the point) – A young man with lots of potential and pace yet has had a start stop career.
2. Scott McDonald – Good footballing ability who knows where the goal is, however not seen as player who will light up the Champions league any time soon
3. Shaun Moloney – Scotland YPOTY & POTY in the same season, came on as substitute against ’Campione del Mondo’ looked as bright and skillfull as anyone on the park.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm©
IF Scott McDonald is procured to become a SQUAD member – and I’m not saying the guy’s a bad buy – what does it say about our youth policy and scouting network?
© CQN??????
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Has somebody broke the blog?
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cumon,
who broke it?
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i think it was SPC
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To all CQN Golf Day Trippers:
I am hoping to hire a minibus from the Cumbernauld area. I have been quoted a rough price of £100 for a 14 seater which is very reasonable. Even if we only get 5 or 6 people it should be worth it. I need to firm up the numbers and pick up points to get a more accurate quote.
Myself and Timmy7 are definites. If you are able to confirm your attendance can you let me know asap. We can probably pick up from Falkirk, Airdrie, Kirkintilloch areas or if you are outwith these areas let me know and I will see if you can be accomodated.
If there is enough interest I will contact Paul to work out how to post my address for cheques etc
vclxi
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Apologies for the 'lost posts' during the night and thanks to Kano for the alert.
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VCLXI-This greenCQNbrake club-is it coming back after the dinner?
I might be interested as Haraldina's sister stays in Cumbernauld.
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test
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Apache Tomcat?
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Davie Mathie
Chris
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Attn CQN Golfers,
In previous CQN golf outings have any females participated or is it an all male thing? Any females coming along this year?
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Kojo on Mathie
Chris
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N F B 10.34
Ladies welcome. One of our esteemed posters Celticlover was accompanied by his good lady last year. Aberdour is a great layout for all players long or short( in golfing terms) :~)
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Dontbrattback,
Bus is for coming home after the meal as well as going out in the morning.
vclxi
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Nuclearfalloutbhoy
We had female participation at last year's CQN Open.
CQN Open is, as the suggests, open to all who want to come. Even Edward!
We've had a great response so far.
Thanks for the bus vxxli!
We've had several kind donations for prizes.
Full update soon, but if you want in you'd better be quick, we are filling up.
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ladies made up the better part of the company.
On average men speak 7000 words per day, women 20000.
With golf being a game/pass time it allows the sexes to mix unlike sports/athletics.
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paul,
strange take on the signing that ''the media leech off celtic''
its a 2 way street surely.
managers love to slag off the media but gordon and oniell jump at the invitation from the 'media' when they are out of work or at a loose end in the summer. are they leeching off the media??
most of our former managers jump at the chance to earn some coin by writing articles in the redtops.
any former player that can string two sentences together (not many!) jump at the chance of a job in the radio/tv when their career finishes.
fairly ridiculous notion to suggest that the media shouldnt report the signing of a player.
slagging off agents is also a bit niave. some of our former players and managers who arent eloquent enought for media work try to carve out careers as agents.
and our managers rely on agents to not only supply but suggest players to them.
are you suggesting celtic refuse to work with agents or are you suggesting that agents shouldnt try to get the best possible deal for their employers??
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Paul,
Usually your analysis of the media is a good one but I'm confused where you are going with this one. If a player's agent announces that his client is on the verge of signing for Celtic, are the papers supposed not to report that? Why not? Because Celtic haven't deigned to comment yet?
Sounds almost like you're arguing for Celtic news to be filtered through the Celtic Park press office. The beauty of the net is that we no longer have to sit here like passive consumers whilst those in power at Celtic (or in the press) decide what and what not to tell us.
Your argument is an argument for restricting news, rather than disseminating it more widely- a strange argument to make on an internet blog.
As for the agent- it's a free country, if MacDonald doesn't like him shouting hos mouth off he can fire him and get another one.
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Just hanging around, waiting for word of the team for tomorrow. :-/
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in todays guardian
FA Cup winners may be given Champions League place
"A number of clubs have expressed an interest in this situation," said William Gaillard, Uefa's communications director. "We are not against it in principle and if this is the view of the majority there is no reason why we shouldn't do it. The clubs that we have heard from have responded quite favourably."
Gaillard said that although discussions had so far been informal, interest had been strongest from "a very large German club, a Spanish club and a very large Scottish club", believed to be Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Rangers respectively."
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and would you believe it - fat sam allardyce has expressed an interest in another celtic target - this time scott brown.
ray clarke should start checking his chandeliers and plant pots.
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JVoh is ready for tomorrow. :-)Wilson and Sno ain`t.
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Ianinjesi, that's twice this week you've pipped me to breaking news! Give some of the rest of us a chance! Official site says Wilson and Sno have 'medium-term' injuries, whatever that means...
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Wilson and Sno out.
JVoH in!
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so does that mean we will see the debut of Perrier-Doumbe?
And I'd love to see MZ partner JVoH up front. this was the pairing that excited me most at the start of the season and it's about time it met expectations.
At least KM will be knackered after 2 games this week and will deserve a break(although i bet he scores coming off the bench-scrub that, he'll never score, will he?)
And medium term injuries? Does that mean we will see Sno and Wilson before the end of the season?
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JVoH is in the squad!
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VCL-Might not need to get there early as I was really only thinking of going to the dinner.
If there is anyone else going from the Land That Time Forgot I'd be delighted to consider doing the green thing and carsharing.
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Le blog ne marche pas?
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I recall Ross Mathie of Kilmarnock in the late 60s/early 70s and wee Kenny Mathie of Quarter Gill VAFC who was perhaps the better player..../.
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whitedoghunch (30/03/07 10:59) said... "On average men speak 7000 words per day, women 20000."
I must be a transexual then, as I speak an average of 27,000 words a day!
Furthermore...
There is an article about Scott Brown featured on Keep The Faith. And after watching the Italy v Scotland match I would tend to agree that this valuation is ridiculous... that's more than DOUBLE WHAT CELTIC PAID FOR SHUNSUKE NAKAMURA!!!
I'm not even sure I'd describe Brown's performance against Italy as "playing well". I thought he looked bereft of creative ideas and little less than clumsy for most of the match. His performance seemed to match the descriptions I frequently read on here of Tommy Gravesen's performances for Celtic... lots of running around to little effect.
If he was unable to have a major impact the other night, then I have no reason to believe he would be any more effective in the Champions League.
Frankly, after that performance my thoughts about Scott Brown were "what is all the furore about" and "I hope he signs for Rangers"...
If the link no longer works then go to the KTF home page and click on "News", where you should be able to find the article.
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I have read many wierd and diverse opinions on this blog but Paul67 takes the biscuit with his ludicrous claim that the traditional media are "leeching" off Celtic.
Using that perverse logic we can all be accused of "leeching" of Celtic.
Do I sense a pet lip because the McDonald story was broken by the old media courtesy of the player's agent?
The tenor of the thread smacks to me very much of sour grapes and I find it quite incredible that a blog master seems to be advocating restrictions on the freedom of information and its dissemination.
The message seems to be that those nasty, parasitic red tops shouldn't be allowed to break Celtic stories- that is for the club's official PR department and the board's sychophants.
A blog advocating news management and control of the information flow?- whatever next from Parkhead's very own version of Pravda?
A ban on posters speculating on transfer targets before Celtic's central committee have issued their official ratification to CQN?
Strange stance, Paul.
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I have read many wierd and diverse opinions on this blog but Paul67 takes the biscuit with his ludicrous claim that the traditional media are "leeching" off Celtic.
Using that perverse logic we can all be accused of "leeching" off Celtic.
Do I sense a pet lip because the McDonald story was broken by the old media courtesy of the player's agent?
The tenor of the thread smacks to me very much of sour grapes and I find it quite incredible that a blog master seems to be advocating restrictions on the freedom of information and its dissemination.
The message seems to be that those nasty, parasitic red tops shouldn't be allowed to break Celtic stories- that is for the club's official PR department and the board's sychophants.
A blog advocating news management and control of the information flow?- whatever next from Parkhead's very own version of Pravda?
A ban on posters speculating on transfer targets before Celtic's central committee have issued their official ratification to CQN?
Strange stance, Paul.
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WG is William Gaillard,UEFA hotshot,fae ML1?
Driving up to the ground to collect my Cup tickets there are lots of election posters for the'Scottish Christian Party'
-are they likely to be Bible thumping,brimstone firing Darnelistas?
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bigcipsuk
think I'm a Hermaphrodite
say a lot some days
say nothing others
your never alone with schizophrenia.
Dave Mcpherson is his agent ?
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whitedoghunch, that's probably what I meant (hence the "27,000 words") but got the wrong term, not being an expert in that field!
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dontbratt -
he might related to Greg Gaillard
there's only one SCP in my life and they're in Lisboa wi the ghonk
WishyGhonkrememberer
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Paul,
three days after the 'posting' -by sheer co-incidence three regular posters have issues with the gist of your piece and all with in an hour and a half (ish)of each other - mmm most peculiar.
CB
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Sean South
perhaps a bit unfair.
we both know that Paul67 does not use this blog as a sensationalist place to parade 'I'm first to Know who is going to sign.'
So why you bring this up is a mystery.
You are correct Paul's couple of paragraphs do on reading evoke disquiet and frustration with the old media but it is within his old hunting ground of their trying to sell papers.
Also the people they try to sell them to.
Freedom of speech ?
The idiots that read these things would believe even the crap I write.
And buy laminate from me.
Read page 30/31 guardian 28/3/07
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DBBIA :- Fom what I've read they seem to be backed by a mix of the more evangelical wing of the protestant churches plus being recomended by senior figures in the R.C church, a sort of unholy alliance lol. (If I have this wrong I'm sure I'll be corrected)
They seem to be one of those parties who sound reasonable and hard to argue with but that you better hope never gain any power or influence.
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No one would have believed, in the last years of the
nineteenth century, that human affairs were being watched from the timeless worlds
of space.
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new article posted.
