 Saturday, March 31, 2007
Old media compulsively bringing Celtic into Rangers murky troubles
I hate myself for getting upset by the old media, but I am. The Herald article, noted in the Quick News section at the top of the page, is titled ‘Old Firm step up efforts to stamp out sectarianism’.
The article discussed David Murray’s media briefings yesterday, when this knight of the realm admits to the problem his club has, and explains that there will be financial consequences for Rangers if their fans do not change their behaviour.
After, denying, tolerating and some would say exploiting the problem for 17 years, he has been forced into action. Locking the stable door well after the white charger has bolted.
No remorse was shown, no attempt to convince, or educate his audience, that such behaviour is fundamentally wrong, irrespective of the club suffering as a result.
I read the article somewhat annoyed at Celtic for allowing themselves to become embroiled in this business, only to find that they were not even mentioned.
I don’t think this was a calculated attempt to besmirch Celtic, it is far too crude for that, but it is an appalling illustration of how the image of Celtic is contorted by the media.
Every attempt humanly possible will be made to draw Celtic into Rangers current problems. Since Villarreal, the old media have only reported Rangers troubles when Uefa (or YouTube) have first become involved.
Their coverage of Ranges recent visit to Celtic Park, where a far greater quantity of material was available to them, was ignored, and even denied by a few.
For historical, financial and perhaps social reasons, the old media cannot report trouble at Rangers without an attempt to bring Celtic down also.
Lazy journalism has opened a dangerous front against Celtic. It is a poison, and one that more than a few Celtic fans in the media are concerned about.
27 Comments:
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good morning timmites
Be Strong today Gordon
hail hail
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just read the article emailed by someone else to me and had the same thought, celtic mentioned nowhere in article so why old firm in title?
we must lose this tag immediately.
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Paul,
Read the article about 8.30 this morning and wrote to the Herarld immediately. Lazy journalism at its very worst. As someone said last night (at least that's when I read it and tried to get online), what makes the whole thing worse is that nobody in Scotland of the old media (or very very few) ever points out that their behaviour is in itself wrong. They see it as some kiind of papist conspiracy, God help us all. Until Scotland comes to terms with the reality that sectarianism is EVIL, things won't fundamentally change.
To brighter matters, here's hoping the 'Tic do the business today. JVOH and Magic up front for me.
By the way, I hope JFK makes it. As was said yesterday too, 3 years out is a long long time when you're learning your trade. My auld Dad said that to me only the other day.
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MGM78
I agree with the lose the "tag" idea and if only the PLC felt the same we might be in with a chance, sadly they feel a need to hang on to Rangers coat tails and keep the "old firm" brand :-(
Interesting that Mr Quinn is also quoted as being pleased that he couldn't "hear a peep" from the fans at Falkirk,..funny thing to be celebrating, maybe that's how he wants it
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Long time lurker and seldom poster.
Excellent and insightful article Paul. The old media call this kind of thing paranoia and we call it reality. It's a hard situation for the club to manage as there are decades of habit to break down before we can collectively make a stand against their agenda by refusing to buy their products.
But the more we embrace this kind of forum (CQN) the more progress we will make towards a fairer representation of our club.
Keep up the good work.
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Burritobhoy, you could not be more wrong. Why don’t you take the time to right to “the PLC” to ask for their views on this matter before publicy criticising them – I did and got a very clear answer.
Celtic share some sponsors with Rangers, largely as a result of the kind of reaction JJB got from Celtic fans a year ago. Taking sponsors who do not also sponsor Rangers will cost the club money, how many millions would you be prepared to forgo to do without them?
Cheers purelikethat.
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Paul67,
I've said it before and I'll say it again, dump the Old Firm name and all links to rangers.
Before, the Old Firm name served a purpose but now it only bring us down to their level, we don't need them (or the name) now.
No one will convince me we need rangers for joint sponsorship deal and the likes, they need us more.
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Paul I just read the article as you were posting this up and I was just about to post on the subject on the last thread.
To say the least it is appalling sensationalism journalism at its worst but that is not the worst thing in it.
At no point in this article or on the Scottish news last night when the man who would be sir got interviewed did anyone condem the supporters for singing their bile as being wrong for bigoted reasons it is only wrong because it will cost the club money. Not because it is offensive to all decent people.
Another thing that no one has called out is where is the SFA in all of this. Twice now they have been investigated by UEFA and not once by the SFA. As for a minority, I must have misread the menaing of that word when the scum were singing at our ground a few weeks ago.
Lastly Paul I would imagine if Celtic issued the same statement and instead of facist facist being singled out as the website Brian Quinn singled out CQN you would be enraged, as a contributor on here I definatley would be. So here is a wee bet I would guess that the contributors over there will be wearing it as a badge of pride that they have been singled out as bigots.
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Whilst the Herald's online article concentrates on Rangers and Murray, the actual headline relates to this newspaper article and a slightly longer "exclusive" from Brian Quinn.
I don't know what motivated Quinn to do this article but the result is that we are seen as an equal part of the problem. I'm fed up with this association. It is up to us as Celtic fans to break this link as it appears that the board don't want to do it on our behalf.
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The Herald headline is very depressing Paul, but sadly not surprising. The only defence Rangers have is to implicate us.
And as the line "ach, they are both as bad as one another" is as old as the Scottish press itself, this actually is not such a bad strategy on their part.
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if you go online to herald then can get broadfoots email address.
I've emailed him directly to tell him how poor his jouranlistic skills are and how his industry is as culpable as those singing the songs, not that he will read, care or reply, mainly did it as thought loads of folk would write to him and if nothing else it will really p him off to get so many emails and hopefully fill his inbox!!
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Paul,
We are mired in 'Selective Journalism'.
A place where you are seen to be being 'Objective' and 'fair' when you list Celtic alongside any wrongdoing of our 'counterparts' across the Clyde.
And it is not, it is purely subjective and maintains the myth that 'One's as bad as the other.'
That phrase pops out of Gordon Smith's or Derek Johnstone's mouth and it is as if the oracle at Delphi has spoken. Should we expect anything else from mouthpiece pundits? Perhaps not.
Should we expect something better from Journalists? Broadsheet journalists at that. The truthful answer is, i'm afraid, no. No we should not.
It would seem that in this world of acceptance of everything and anything third-rate that 'Lazy Journalism' has become a benchmark to which today's hacks can aspire to.
U.
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paul 67
dump the old firm tag?
that request really would infuriate the
establishment.
apply to play in the english league and get away
from rangers?
tried that line.
any well intentioned and highly overdue meritous efforts by celtic people to 'dump the old firm tag'
will be met with hostility.
what is required is for celtic football club to dump the old firm tag, now that might get the job done.
but this would involve a historic monumental shift
by celtic football club, they would need to meet
the establishment on the front foot.
something celtic in my opinion have never done.
for example celtic should have called a monday morning press conference after the last "old firm"
game and asked rangers for an apology for thier fans sectarian and rascist behaviour?
now that would have got the job of dumping the
odious "old firm" tag started.
hail hail
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And yet the Celtic board buys into the Old Firm at every turn. If you sup with the devil you need a long spoon.
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The article is one of two placed on pages 2 and 3 of the Herald. The second is an exclusive interview with Brian Quinn.
The old media operates on buying a newspaper and reading the pages.
Lazy reading?
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Paul67,
I think the situation is so serious now that we should forgo any monies we acquire by dint of our being associated with them. We should do all we can to consign that tag to the dustbin of history. In the long term, we will be far better off without them.
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Meanwhile, back at the fitba....
Team v Dundee United:
Boruc
Caldwell . . . Pressley . . . O'Dea . . . Naylor
Nakamura . . . Hartley . . . Lennon . . . McGeady
Beattie . . . Vennegoor of Hesselink
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Good luck to Gordon and the Bhoys today!
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No TG again, he's offski. Pity it never worked out.
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minority
–noun 1. the smaller part or number; a number, part, or amount forming less than half of the whole.
2. a smaller party or group opposed to a majority, as in voting or other action.
3. a group differing, esp. in race, religion, or ethnic background, from the majority of a population: legislation aimed at providing equal rights for minorities.
4. a member of such a group.
5. the state or period of being under the legal age of full responsibility.
–adjective 6. of or pertaining to a minority.
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John_H I sincerely hope you are wrong. I think Tommy G will produce more with better players around him next season, the ghuy can play, no doubt about that.
DU 1 CELTIC 4
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new article posted.
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Goooooooooooooooooooood afternoooon CQN
Channel 67 playing up……………..
any 1 having problems with 67.……..
This afternoooooooooooooooooooooon
BigJoeWhoCANNYgetConnected
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BigJoe
That's usually my line but I was just about to post to say that c67 was on it's best behaviour today. Well, it is for me anyway.
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My blogger name give it away but I guess people would know I went to one of thjos schools some want banned.
While there I was taught English.
I like the definition of "minority" ..... "forming less than half of the whole".
Two saturdays ago I was able to spend a few hours reading the websites and browing you tube.
The clips on show from Rangers Osasuna and the previous weeks Celtic Rangers match were numerous.
Maybe its my poor education, but when reviewing the evidence, is the minority the group who are not behaving in a secterian manner ?
The evidence also shows before, during and after the matches.
Its not isolated. It a cultural norm.
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Celtic very poor again today.mCgeady aside.
Paul hartley is really struggling
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