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Lurker bags a first?
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and a 2nd?
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easy, easy, easy!
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Resurrexit Sicut Dixit
or as we said in the Seventies:-
Ensure Exit Seek Oot Dixie
Happy Easter to one and all
Martin42 -
my hotmail accounts were shut doon by the Microsoft polis so please send the email again
WG - who has pants on for the festivities at NAFOS' hoose the nicht
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To all C Q N posters and friends,
I OFFER YOU ALL A BLESSED AND HAPPY EASTER.
"URBI ET ORBI"
WE MAY DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER BUT WE WILL DO IT WITH SOME STYLE, DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER.
A TOAST TO THE CHAMPIONS ELECT,
"CELTIC"
MON THE HOOPS,
Martin.
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Paul67
Do you think our lack of shape may have something to do with trying to play Hartley and Lennon in the same position.With both of them trying to play in the defensive mode , i think it leaves Aiden and Naka i and isolated and leaves us with little support for the strikers,apart from the wings drifting in which leaves the full backs isolated ........in turn leaves us with no shape.
Quite why TG did not get a run out at some stage yesterday is beyond me.....yo see an experienced pro warm up for a full 90 mins(alone most of the time) was both infuriating and upsetting ,especially considering how bad our midfield was performing.
Gary Caldwell, god help us, never a right back..........Doumbe must be really hopeless .
Nevermind 3 points in the bag........mon the saints
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I was absolutely crapping myself, if we hadn't scored yesterday I'm afraid the nerves would have doubled the tension and we could easily go into freefall, I shudder to think what if Majic hadn't been injured.
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Here's wan fay the 'More Things Change Dept.'
from last Friday's Herald (April 6th)
FROM THE HERALD ARCHIVES
100 YEARS AGO
The sequel to the Easter celebration by the Polish community of Craigneuk, Wishaw, was found in a number of cases which came before the Wishaw Police Court. It seems that against the due observance of the festival a great quantity of liquor had been laid in by the foreigners, and Sunday was given over to drinking and enjoyment, and five Poles were locked up. The Provost said that if they desired to come to Scotland they were expected to conform to the laws of the country, and that Scotsmen abhorred the breaking of the peace on a Sabbath day.
WishyGdansk
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apologies for the typo errors above keyboard playing up ....also crap typist
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Paul,
Good result YESTERDAY, Oor first half performance against the Darnel was excellent – BUT strangely enough I’ll take the result everytime!
’Their malaise is as inexplicable as it is tangible.' Totally agree* (I think??????)
Hope the ger’s get a point today – nice to win things with Celtic bhoys in full song!
Do you think that Gordon picked Derek up** On the road to Paradise wandering up wi’ hes away tap on and his scarf around his neck! Singing about a Japanese bhoy who eat Chinese food and had an interest in Irish polotics.
*Did you know that Jack Welch always looked at the successful parts of his business, sussed what they were doing right and implemented it across the board.
**Mibee James McGlory new a thing about football(ers) after aw’!
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Martin42 and WG have reminded me how remiss I was above; Happy Easter one and all.
PFAYR, I think you are correct about central midfield, though I am ambivalent on TG.
This is not the time to resurrect his Celtic career.
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Judging by some of the play between Riordan and McGeady yesterday, why not pull McGeady inside and have Riordan play on the left.
The other two would be Hartley along side McGeady and Nakamura on the right.
Upfront I would start the same way, with Big Jan and Magic.
BF
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My apologies, HAPPY EASTER To everyone celebrating this time of year.
Hail Hail
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It’s dreadful hearing or is it rather not hearing the fans at CP. I don’t know what’s worse these days. I have to say though, I find it inexplicable hearing Celtic fans booing their own as it is shows said fans to be moronic and only results in negative play from individual players who realise their next mistake is going to howled at. Why?
It’s obvious though, that too many fans want to see good football besides getting a result. That’s something we all want, but when it’s not working out on the pitch, songs of encouragement are desperately needed, and not just for players.
Like I’ve mentioned before we do have real quality in Boruc, Naka, Aiden, Sno and JoVH, with two further quality signings we move to the next level. If others in the squad come good next season, team 3 will let us find our real voice to get behind Gordan Strachan and team in the quest for 3 in a row.
Celtic has to be supported when things aren’t going too well. I’m writing this when we could possibly win the league in a couple of hours. What’s gone wrong?
Hail Hail
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Mon the saints! The fat lady is clearing her throat!!
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Nice one Paul,
"This is not the time to resurrect his Celtic career."
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Novo scores
well played new signing Kirk Broadfoot
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Well, Well.....
I believe I called it yesterday TWICE.....ST Mordor will lie down before the BEAST.......
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Happy easter to everyone.
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new post on www.thelordofthewing.blogspot.com
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any special halftime announcements at love st u think?
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Happy Easter Eggs!
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I would like to recommend the Documentory style movie,
An Inconvenient truth.
The subject matter has no connection to Celtic.However there are parallels,with the stance that many posters hear seem to have to mine,and the descenting voice that Al Gore provides.
He quotes Winston Churchill.
"The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to a close. In its place, we are entering a period of consequences."
I find this very profound and indeed ,where Celtic are under Mr Strachan.
He also states that .
"It is human nature to take time to connect all the dot's,
but the dot's are right there in front of us."
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don't know if its been posted before, but
how many thousands caught craig beattie's
gaff in pulling out of a chase, then realising his mistake - too late?
absolutely shocking stuff.
part of the bigger problem at celtic that and neil lennons body language
the missing thousands
hail hail
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Supporters cheer, customers jeer.
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novo scores, a typical novo goal
i.e. squaffed into the net off a defender
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St Mirren look really poor. If it wasn't for Dunfermline I think they, would be certainties for relegation. I don't think they are lying down; they are certainly trying, but they aren't good enough. They still have the ball in Ranger's half for most of the game still.
In saying that, taking both of those teams out of the equation, I would say the league has improved again this year as it has over the last few season. Teams are much more physical, difficult to breakdown, and they pass better. In the past I could usual feel comfortable with the knowledge that we'd get a few chances just by the opponents pretty much giving us the space or even the ball. It's not case anymore they are much harder to play against and they are more stars in amongst non-Old Firm (i know I hate the tag to) teams tahn before with players such as Naismith, Brown, McDonald. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't be winning the league but I have taken heart from the fact that the other teams are improving. With them having fnancial stability as well hopefully this will continue in the future.
How many fouls are the orcs gonna get away with before more bookings?
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Happy Easter!
Seems that we gave up playing football for lent but now it is over and with the league there for the taking lets do it in style.
You never know Hearts might do us a favour at Ibrox before we play Killie...no I don't think so either.
I'm Looking forward to Broadfoot playing at Ibrox next season.
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Celtibhoy
Quote of the week.
"Celtic have given up playing football for lent."
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Hail! Hail!
Novo is a wee puddin.
Do you know how many goals has he scored in the SPL compared to Kenny Miller?
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tiny tim
agreed - a little spanish twit
never seen a player that hits the ball so
uncleanly. what is his ratio compared with
the millermeister?
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I've just watched a couple of minutes of the saints game.....but they look like they could get a result.
On Celtic, I agree with much of what has been said. I think Neil Lennon is an absolute Celtic Hero. I feel quite strongly about this, and his early season form (Tynecastle apart) was top notch.
However, his drop in form has exposed the biggest weakness in the team. The midfield mix.
With Naka and Aiden, the other 2 in the middle have got to have physical presence and the engines of 26 year olds.
That being said, we did sign 2 central midfielders last summer. One from Chelseas, the other from Real Madrid.......
Top, top game from Aiden yesterday. Others could learn from this lad.
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Shocking performance again.
What I find distressing is GS's lack of action. It really is depressing and shows great weakness on his part.
I am mystified about Graveson - Hartley should not be playing - why are we not playing Gravenson?
Tell me Paul - why is now not the time to ressurect his Celtic career? I find this a curious statement from you.
I'm looking forward to a party at Kilmarnock - but a huge part of me feels they will fall down again - we are far too timid - time to throw off the shackles Celtic.
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Thanks tinytim
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NegAnon....
I don't know what Strachan's 'lack of action' was. Many times this season, we have been pleading for whoever wasn't in the team....only to scratch our heads and say 'what's he playing for...?'
I'm as guilty as the rest. Remember how happy some of us were when Beattie came back from injury? Made an impact at Tynescastle, then went in the tank?
So here we are, wanting TG back. I really don't think it is too much to do with specific individuals. I think it is the mix in the middle, coupled with a MASSIVE drop in confidence throughout the team.
That confidence can be restored by the actions of the manager, the players and the supporters. We are certainly not doing our bit.
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Hail! Hail!
I don't know.Possibly someobe else can tell us how many SPL goals Novo and Miller have scored this season?
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novo has 4 league goals not including today
miller has 4
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Thanks pastyface.
It just show's how bad Miller really is.
I have been guilty of laughing at rangers aswell,however i think we mus get our own house in order.
Sebo would probably get a game for us.
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I'm absolutely fascinated (and equally appalled) that yet again the "blame" is somehow being laid at the supporters door.
The support is utterly fed up with the performances (and I do not just mean the last handful of games) - we have been terrible and are utterly terrible to watch.
On the inevitable question of would I rather we play well and lose or play terrible and win - of course I'd take the win. But the point is - in the SPL we should be able to do both (even on our so called meagre income).
Weeron - I know Graveson is a bit hit and miss - but at least he shows energy and drive - surely we can take a risk against some of our SPL opponents and go for it?
But no - we sit there and watch GS do nothing. How can it be acceptable - you watch these games and just desparately want someone to make something happen.
I'm still really curious about Paul's - nows not the time to ressurect Graveson's Celtic career - why not???
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tinytim
Cheer up, he wouldn't.
HH
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we should now win the league on the British queen's birthday or WG's birthday, take your pick.....
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Neganon,
For what it is worth, I would hesitate to play Neil Lennon at home. We don't need a back 5 for these games. Whether that would create a spot for TG, I don't know.
Anyway, the supporters DO have a responsibility.
I don't get to too many games, living in Canada. I see them all at my CSC. I get home once or twice a year. I must admit, when I do go home, am STUNNED, yes stunned, by the hatred directed at Celtic players by Celtic supporters.
Two seasons ago (a few weeks before that really bad day in motherwell) I was at a home game. Alan Thompson wouldn't have got more abuse had he taken the field wearing a rangers top. I was gobsmacked.
Back in the centenery season, the supporters carried us through many games. They did their part.
Now? It is either pure hostility or an empty stadium after 80 minutes.
No, maybe the support is not to 'blame'. But they do have a responsibility.
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totally agree negative anon regarding TG. I don't understand his emmision from the team. He is our 5th top goal scorer. He gives us energy, he can score. His problem, I feel, was the partnership with Lennon didn't work. I'd have him playing behind a striker (jvoh). Or try him in midfield with Sno.
He can't be too happy sitting on the bench and I'm sure his emmision from the team is financial and driven from the top. He is our highest earner. This obviously works against him. He will be off during the summer and we will make some money from his sale. Mission accomplished some would say.
hail hail
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Neg Anon,
we all know by now that the team isn’t performing. It’s therefore to be expected, that todays game was going to go the was things have been for the last month. (Or all season if you wish).
Now we have fans going along to the game, certainly hoping to be entertained, but making sure of it by getting their kicks out of deriding team players. That’s appalling.
N.B I said fans not supporters. Happy Easter to you all the same.
Hop Hop
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Weeron - on the back 5 at CP - I agree - though if it were me I would drop Hartley (Lennon still does his job well- I have no idea what we are trying to do with Hartley).
I only partly agree with you on the supporters. The support have always lost their rag with players and shown frustration - always. In fact it has been part of the crowd dynamic at CP - many a time the crowd has worked itself into a frenzy and this has got the necessary reaction from the players. Occassionally it goes over the top - the worst occassion I remember was with Derek Whyte years ago - you could almost see him shaking when he got the ball. Much was made of the Neil Lennon incident in the Boavista game - but that was just a bit of frustration and totally exaggerated.
At the end of the day this is football and not a Sunday School outing - you have to expect some stick if you dont perform.
So the criticism has not changed - what has changed is the standard of football. I remember when GS started many where waxing about the great football we were playing compared with MON. Well, not since our Hampden days have we played so badly.
I guess what I am saying is we need something to shout about. We are being told we are now financially secure - so Board - can we DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS PLEASE?
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Sir Paul...
In our perusal of your succinct recapitulation of Celtic's game of the ult....
We agree not to disagree with your triteness.
You did indeed capture the tenor of the degree of Celtic's woefulness of performance, but not the reason.
That reason, I have named in one or two of my past submissions.
It was birthed during one of my rare moments of inebriation.
The reason?
HIGH ANXIETY! NERVOUSNESS!
Now I observe, that my conclusion, has been ratified by non other than... Mr. Strachan!...(See News Bite..at the top of this page..."Celtic on Verge of Title.etc".. inserted by out good friend...CanajunBhoy.)
This characteristic,to which neither myself nor any of my readers is immune, is a PERFECTLY NORMAL REACTION TO THE PREVAILING CIRCUMSTANCES.
Saturday's Game, although a Dry and Dreich performance....was nevertheless, a CATHARTIC ONE!
The Next time out,we should see the Result of that Purging of the Bhoys' Emotional Tensions!
Vestiges of Nervousness shall remain, nonetheless, owing to the fact that ONE MORE WIN, is still in the offing, before the Mantle of League Champions can be claimed.
However, we should see a more energetic and less lethargic display,from Celtic, as most of the former Inhibiting Nervousness will have been Discharged.
Kojo.
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Hailhail84...
Your first guess is more likely to be correct. TG was like a 5 year old, running about after the ball with no consideration to any other responsibilities.
Lennon was invariably left watching TG, Naka and Aiden disappearing into the distance. Neil was left to deal with whatever happened when the opposition got the ball. Then he got slagged for not closing down the 4 or 5 opposition players that would flood the midfield.
I honestly feel that, if we are going to play 2 wingers, then the central midfield pairing needs to have particular qualities. I'm not sure these qualities are on our books right now.
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Hailhail84 - I too suspect this is about money (but lets see why Paul doesnt want his career resurrected). I also suspect there is a clause in his contract about number of games. If this is the case then yet again the support is being taken for granted. What this means is that this was only ever a temporary arrangement designed to make money and not any football ambition. For this season the support is also being forced to watch dross to save a bit more cash.
HHBhoy - fans, supporters or customers. I've asked Paul for the debate - so far no dice.
Kojo - isnt it GS's role to deal with this anxiety? Isn't he failing and adding to this by discussing it in the "auld media"?
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Negative Anon
You're dead right, it's a football match not a Sunday School outing.
You get singing at Sunday School.
Happy Easter everyone. Let's hope Kojo's right about the nerves. It would explain all the sideways and backwards passing, all the extra touches.
We'll win it again next year. But not as easily. You heard it here first.
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Chennaisabird - Touche!
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NegAnon,
this is a classic, Chicken/egg thing. Yesterday, I was half hoping the ref would deny us a stonewall penalty. That would have given the crowd a sense of injustice that might just have gotten them into things.
My last home game was that very poor home performance against hertz in November. A horribly inept display. The ref made some bizarre calls that turned apathy into anger. Those last 10 minutes were great....:)
I strongly believe that supporters do have a responsibility. To behave. To support.
Yes, back in the 60's there were always negative people amongst our support. (Were you around back then...?...:) I recall that they used to mutter under their breaths, and were limited to occassional outbursts. At least that's what I think I remember.
When Riorden came on yesterday, I thought that this would get things going. It did. For about 30 seconds.
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Weeron,
There is clearly a bit of truth in what you say. Certainly we have always thrived on our sense of injustice and I too sometimes hope the ref is blatently against us.
I missed out on the 60's (just) - but I've never known the crowd not to openly criticise and to be honest I think its probably fair enough (for the record I save my anger for the referee).
My analysis of the situation is that we are simply fed up with rotten football - simple as that.
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NegAnon, HH84....
Surely we have enough to discuss without making up stuff about financial reasons for TG not playing?????
I mean, are you guys just dreaming this stuff???
Have you not seen the partnership that TG and NL make? It is horrible. As long as NL is in the team, I can't see any role for TG. Whether NL should be in the team is another discussion, but once he is there, there can be no place for TG.
From a football point of view, I would have thought this would be evident to most folks. Throwing in this stuff about money....unless there are some facts that I am missing....is just plain crazy/evil, take your pick.
Just when I thought the blog was beginning to make some sense......:(
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My dear friend, Negativeanon...
I see that my last remarks have failed to convince your good self... that Nervousness is a very Subjective and Personal Emotion, which simply cannot be submerged by Palliative and Soothing reasoning.
Once this powerful emotion takes hold, it has the propensity to increase and can and does spread throughout a group.
To suggest, as you have, that a few words from Mr.Strachan could restore Confidence to an already Nervously Stricken Group of young Players is.... well..... words fail me!
Kojo.
yer pal.... 'til Clinton ceases too wear that Ridiculous ..FULL WIG!!
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Whats the latest with the American, Dalby?? I've heard both he's been offered an extra two weeks to impress on trial and the other story he has signed but to be loaned out for work permit reasons?? clarification anyone? Paul?
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2 conversations going here at the same time....
NegAnon, I thought that a LOT of the football in MON's era was ugly. But I am happy to forget much of it, as there were MANY great times. I don't see that things are a WHOLE lot different now.
The year we lost the league on goal difference, I was over for the Lisbon Lions match (v Feyenoord). The next week, we had a midweek game v Dundee United. There I was, genuinely excited at seeing the Bhoys in a full CP.
we were 2-0 up early on against what must be the poorest side we have ever played. We started slowing things down in the FIRST half.
We played the entire second half in reverse. I thought that the whole performance was disrespectful to the support. I hoped we get some youngsters on to liven things up. No subs until very late.
we won 2-0. It ought to have been 7.
as I said, we lost the league on goal difference.
With MON, we took the good with the bad and always believed that he had the club's best interests at heart.
Gordon Strachan deserves the very same.
Let me end with this. The ONE thing that murray/smith will be dreaming of is a change of manager at Celtic.
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Just spotted Celticbhoy`s comment about giving up playing football for lent.
Exactly! No excuse now Bhoys!
I was beginning to notice how few shots and corners Celtic have been having. I thought it was about time to apply sustained pressure
This weekend,
Arsenal 29 attempts at goal, 14 corners, 0 goals, 0 points
Celtic 12,5,1,3pts
Rangers 5,2,1, 3pts
So much for my theory!
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Weeron - on TG and finance's - I'm just trying to work out why Paul has stated he does think now is the right time to kick start his Celtic career - a very odd statement!
On the other matter - I wasnt trying to compare and contrast and of course GS deserves as much support as MON. But you will find that the support also quietened when we kept the same team for 2 years in a row and the football became stagnent.
Kojo - as a general concept is it not up to the manager to deal with these type of problems? Or if the youngsters are sufferring then replace them with more experience (who are these youngsters who have no experience of winning a league by the way?)
However there is the teensiest flaw in your argument - whats the excuse for the insipid performance we have witnessed all season? After all - we weren't always so close to the finish line where we?
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Neg Anon
Fans are those who support the Club
Supporters are Fans who get behind the team.
Customers pay to: say what they want.
Certainly there’s a bit of overlapping from such a concise assessment.
To be honest though I would say the “customer” is a derogatory short description to those
who glean pleasure from the abuse they throw at the team.
You tell me, but it seems to be we just don’t have supporters going to the game.
Hail Hail
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In yesterday's game, I made a few observations,
Caldwell is not a right back,
Hartley done his job in midfield and had a the dig when needed,
Although it is the first time this season that at least one third of the team did not perform well.
I have said it before and I'll say it again, it has been a long season and we need the motivation to get across the line and build for next year.
Where does that come from?
Just like the team on the park, we need all thirds operating together!
The Manager
The Team
and The Support!
BF
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Kojo, all teams have to cope with nerves.
All sportsmen do.
The great ones cope with it and still perform.
The poor performances were being blamed on having nothing to play for a few weeks ago.
Now it's nerves.
Whilst nerves do play an important part.Many of the players are just not good enough.
JJ and Graveson exude confidence.
Infact i cannot think of ever seeing a more laid back player at Celtic park since George Connelly.
So if it's just nerves ,bring in the older experienced heads.
Mr Strachan said on radio yesterday ,it would be the first Championship for most of the team.Only lennon and Boruc had real previous championship experience.
I just about crashed the car ( and i wasn't driving).
Majic,Naka,McManus,Aiden,Telfer Pressley,Miller,have all played in Championship winning teams.
I'm sorry but as one championship side once said. There are "No excuses".
Many of the players are just not good enough.
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Jeez Paul67,it looks like you and I were watching the same game for once`¬)
With regard to the Beats-there was an incident in which he went into challenge the keeper and he came out of it limping[ohmygod!we thought!He's done his hamstring!]
He managed to run it off but a similar incident occurred on the opposite side of the box a few minutes later.He pulled out of this challenge but may have been protecting the stickyback plastic that's holding his leg together.
CQNers who are staying in on Thursday[or like me likely to be driving may wish to note the following show on radio4:
'Auld Firm,Old Family'
John Wilson investigates a hidden chapter of his own family history.His father is goalie turned sports pundit Bob Wilson,his great-great uncle was Sir John Ure Primrose,a seminal figure in Scots soccer history.When Sir John,a leading Unionist politician of the late 19th century,became chairman of Glasgow Rangers,he ruled the team could never field a Catholic player.
Wilson probes whether it was his ancestor who began the bitter continuing sectarian rivalry between Rangers and the younger club,Celtic.
The above blurb was taken from today's Telegraph,SIMBT.Should be worth a listen.
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Weeron
I never thought that i would want the same dream as David Murray and Walter Smith.
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HHBhoy,
You are spot on - the word customer is used as a derogatory description of celtic supporters. It seems its widely used in two circles - the Board and by our host here on CQN.
When you sit at CP do you look around you and think you are surrounding by the enemy?
Dontbrattbackinanger - what time is that show on at?
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Tinytim....looks like you do......
(have the same dream as murray and smith....)
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Neg Anon,
That isn’t what I said. It is though a grey area.
When sitting at CP I’m surrounded by fans and supporters.
Unfortunately though, as the game progresses into a match, some of these fans transform into
abusive, screaming “customers”, who seem to want their chosen player/victim to fail in his endeavours, and then take pleasure in moaning to their neighbours at said player.
I certainly couldn’t and never have shouted at a Celtic player. I couldn’t. I count myself as a fan and supporter. How about you?
Hail Hail
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Thought there was signs of Deek and Aiden being on the same wavelength,still would like to see Aiden's starting position just behind Jan as was tried against Milan.
Riordan has striker instincts but again i think the wide position gives him a better view on the game,as to when to make his move.
With his back to the play i dont think we will get the best out of him that is why i think Aiden should be the inside man with Riordan choosing his moment to move into a goal scoring position.
Riordan strikes me as someone more than most who will thrive on the confidence building reception that he got yesterday.
Also thought late in the game there were a couple of signs that Paul Hartely is emerging from his shell.Hopefully we will soon see the swashbuckling displays that he used to produce at Hearts.
As Kojo pointed out nerves,pressure.lack of confidence,call it what you will it has the effect of crippling a performance with fear.
Even the top athletes can suffer self doubt.
I'm reading John McEnroes biography just now and he said that he was playing in a game were he could do no wrong,everything he hit was coming off,but even he in the midst of that he could suddenly start to doubt himself.
Maybe Gordon Strachan is not reacting as quickly to events on the park as he did earlier in the season eg Hearts at Tynecastle where he switched Gravesen to a deeper role and pushed Sno further forward to great effect.
Perhaps the pressure that comes with getting over the finishing line is affecting his decision making.
Had it been earlier in the season i think Gravesn would have come on in a game such as yesterdays.
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TerryO'Neill
same thoughts on earlier post regarding Aiden and Deeks, I hope Mr Strachan noticed the way they worked together yesterday, would love to see them start a game with with Aiden inside and Deeks outside.
Paul Hartley as you have said may be coming out of his shell, we need his dig in midfield.
BF
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My take on the great customer v fan debate.
If I was a customer I wouldn't be back next season.
I am a fan therefore I'll be there.
Does anyone know when the new strip is out?
Apparently the popularity of the old one surprised Nike.
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Neg Anon @ !5.29
You said:-
"I'm looking forward to a party at Kilmarnock - but a huge part of me feels they will fall down again - we are far too timid"
I'm urging you to keep on listening to the major side of your personality. You won't enjoy the Rugby Park experience, Celtic will probably lose, and you'll end up even more depressed.
Can I have your ticket? :-)
chancers csc
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Terry and Bhoysfour,
glad to agree about Aiden and Deeks, and Paul Hartley too, he was starting to motor.
The cup game will be a vital one to freshen up the team.
How would we be feeling if the Well had scored yesterday? Previous league shut out was v Hibs on 10/2!
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NegAnon-it's on at 8pm on Thursday for 30 minutes,so it doesn't even clash with the Whispering Bob Harris Country show on radio 2.`¬)
What interests me is the fact that this Sir John Ure Primrose is being named as the originator of the policy;previously I'd just heard it described as a'tradition'which had almost come out of nowhere.
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hhbhoy,
I rarely blame the players - half the time they are put into positions where they shouldn't - but I have indeed groaned or shouted on occassion (and I am unrepentent - its an emotional game and we are an emotional support).
Lostrambling - while there might be a few "customers" the vast vast majority will renew - does this make them supporters. Or should we also sign a contract saying we will do as we are told, sing when we are told and accept everything the club says - if so then we are simply "sheep".
I'm laughing at our CEO at the moment - "we will invest" - mmm - have I heard this before? What time of year is it - oh thats right - season book time.
SFTB - nice try but no chance!!!I will have left my job on the Friday and whilst technically still employed be in between jobs - this gives me the ideal opportunity to let my hair down big style!
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We have not played well for most of the season no matter who was in the midfield.
The system of the overlapping fullbacks means that together with Naka and McGeady and the two strikers that we have 6 players going forward, if you add Hartley to that then we have only 3 in defence, so if we play the 2 wide men cutting in to allow the space for the 2 fullbacks to run into we need 2 defensive midfielders to cover. This does not suit Hartleys style,it is the reasn why at times he plays behind Lennon, so to me it has nothing to do with him playing badly or having to cover for Lennon, it is the system we play, the one we have played almost all of the season.
A big worry is that we have the same, almost, defensive record as Rangers so far this season.
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Cheers Dontbrattbackinanger - no comment on you musical tastes!!
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Just so we aren't feeling alone......
Going by the posts about the victory over St. Mirren on FollowFollow-
they could well be talking about the Motherwell game yesterday.
Two sets of supporters/customers not happy with 3 points.
Must be something in the wind...........
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I was happy with 3 points;although'winning ugly'might be something we have to get used to.I'll also be delighted when we retain the title-what I'm less gruntled about is the fact that the team[other than at left back]is weaker than this time last year.
With a potentially treacherous CL qualifier to negotiate El Gordo,despite having 2 league titles under his belt,might find his job is not getting any easier.
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Derek Riordan and a breath of fresh air;
That's the impact he had when he made his entrace yesterday.The whole stadium got a much needed lift.
Now if only he'd been used on other occasions.
Kenny Millar and the huff.
That appears to be the sum and substance if his histryonics yesterday,although i am waiting for someone sitting nearer the dug out to confirm.
Tommy Graveson and the pot of gold.
Is that the reason he isn't featuring.Is there a number of games played clause in his contract,
Season ticket time is nearly here again and so are all the rumoured signings.Now if i was a malcontent i'd be thinking, haud on.
Yesterday was dire.Dress it up as you will.It was dire as have been so many other performances this season.I gave my support to the current team and management yesterday as i will till we are crowned Champs.Then it ends.
There is brightness and light in the mineshaft bhoys,come on down.
JonG
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Donbrattbackinanger - getting used to winning ugly...NOOOOOOO!!!
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NegAnon-during the late 60s and early 70s I'm sure a large number of people who did not come from a 'Celticminded'background started to support the Club because of the football being played.
Given the paucity of the opposition in the SPL we should be able to turn on the style most weeks.
I have tremendous admiration for Neil Lennon as a player,and as a man.If we get through against St Johnstone I'd like him to say that the SCFinal will be his Hoops swansong.He's raging against the dying of the light just now.
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Please be careful, guys. If you are just making up the stuff about TG, then say so, as these things tend to grow legs and we end up not needing any help from lazy journos.
as far as I know, there has been nothing to suggest a financial reason for him not playing. There are MANY valid football reasons however, so let's not be starting silly rumours.
as for Celtic buying players....why the cynicism. Year 1 gave us Boruc, Naka and Majic. Year 2 gave us Naylor, Jiri and TG. Year 3 will bring us more. Whether they'll be as successful as the year 1 crew or the year 2 crew, who knows?
But the track record suggests that we will be trying sign players that will move the Club forward.
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beattiesfirsttouch, As far as I can gather the problem with signing Dalby from the U.S. is that he does not have a European passport and as such an application must be made on his part. Of the criterea needed to satisfy this application one aspect is the need that the applicant must have made in excess of ??? pounds in the previous year playing football.
I'm hearing that he hasn't earned enough and so he would need to be loaned to a team outwith the requirements until he has earned enough and then his application could be cleared
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Kojo & Collie,
Pierre better be quick dirty Harry sniffing round Billy Sharp for Portsmouth next season.
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Jarosik has been an abject failure.
TG has been anything but an inspired signing and in my opinion Naylor as i have stated here has limited ability.
No one is starting silly rumours.What i and others want to know is why when our midfield is crying ot for something different, is he on the bench but not stripped.
It couldn't have been any worse than what was on offer.We were devoid of ideas and playing with two holding midfield players.Why?
Yesterday's opposition were without the two best players McDonald and Foran.Yet we still lost the middle of the park.
Riordan was in the same boat and answered the call.TG might just have done the same.
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Paul67,
While I agree with much of your report on the game, I was unusually saddened by the tone of your summation. I usually feel better after reading your articles. Now the nerves (which had abated a lot yesterday evening) are back with a vengenance. Not the way to go on Easter Sunday.
No matter: a very happy and blessed Easter to one and all on here. We will win the League and I hope TG figures in it. If Neil Lennon does, I trust it is his swansong.
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Hartley sitting deeper than Lennon in midfield is bizarre. The Venegoor/Riordan combination looks like the best pairing option we have in the striking department. I was really impressed by Riordan's play. He was peeling off his marker to receive the ball in the last third, he showed a nice touch on the ball, good interplay, good movement & if Nakamura or McGeady can get into central positions we will reap the benefits of this.
For next season i would love us to go out & get 2 athletic players with a change of pace for the wide positions & rotate Nakamura/Mcgeady in a free role. If they were deployed in a position just behind the strikers we would definetely make more scoring chances. I feel that their ability is wasted isolated out on the flanks.
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what a suprise, neg anon slagging the board again.
first you make some sort of stuff up about tommy g not playing because the board have interfered
second you make some bizarre statement about the board and derogatory descriptions of celtic supporters and using the word customer. "widely used" dont think so.
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Oh get over yourself Watchow
Read the posts - I made up nothing I'm just trying to understand why Paul doesnt think that now is the time to ressurect TG's career - can you think of another reason?
Are we not allowed to debate on here anymore.
Well the Board certainly treat us as customers!!
Relax Watchow - if you don't like my posts all you need to do is ignore them!
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Noel,
Thanks and I have always had that same feeling about him as well.
Will mail him tonight.
HERE'S TO THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin.
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I have been out all day at No2 son and family.
We had a lovely dinner and afternoon.
I have read the posts and enjoyed the debate.
I could agree with things in most of the posts, but what I want to really say was that I was heartened to see the standard of debate.
I was good with no personal attacks, let us KEEP IT THAT WAY BHOYS.
There is nothing so offputting in a post as a personal attack on another poster.
LET'S STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin.
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neg anon
sure you didnt make anything up. you didnt suggest that tommy g wasnt playing because of financial reasons.
and you didnt say that the board "widely use" the word customer when referring to the support
debate away, just dont make stuff up.
tell you what, you stop making stuff up to promote your anti-board agenda and i'll start ignoring your posts.
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Bhoysfour, thanks for getting my Gravesen joke. I should know better than to make them with the compulsive/paranoid Neg Anon lurking, that guy is soooo tightly wound, “Ah ha, time for another board conspiracy”.
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I noticed the comments about Hartley playing behind Lennon. in the first half they were almost standing on each others toes once or twice. Hartley is a box to box midfielder and occasionally he will go deep but it would be nice to see him in the other box too. When are you coming back, Evander? :-)
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Watchow - naw - just ignore me - you know how much I enjoy raining on your parade.
Paul - tsk tsk - we have discussed your propensity to belittle those who disagree. If you are saying that your comment on TG was an Easter related joke then its not much of a joke. If it isnt please let me in on the joke!
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Neg Anon, you are a clever man, you can work out the joke for yourself, our friend bhoysfour managed it.
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neg anon
it is my opinion that you are being a bit creepy now
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Paul - still doesnt make sense tho!
Watchow - and you are entitled to your opinion sir.
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JonG,
no offence, but people ARE making things up about TG, the board, and him no
