 Friday, April 27, 2007
McNeill, Strachan and Nike press conference
Gordon Strachan told journalists today that winning the league will make no difference to his planning for next season, which has been underway for at least six months now. We have enjoyed relative continuity these last seven years, unlike the disruptive 1990s, which was a total of seven full time managers at Celtic.
With managers, on occasion, arriving within weeks of the start of the new season, it is no wonder we were a reactive and unsuccessful football club.
Billy McNeill joined Lee Naylor, Stephen McManus, Darren O’Dea nad Shunsuke Nakamura for the launch of the new home strip, due for release on 25 May, exactly 40 years since Billy and the Lisbon Lions lifted the European Cup.
Billy met and privately congratulated the players on winning the league. It is clear our former captain is close to today’s players, as all five genuinely enjoyed sharing the moment.
The new strip is a modern remake of the ’67 classic; Nike were there in force today, and spoke about the “absolute honour to be associated with Celtic”. They also noted that their relationship with Celtic had been a “very successful partnership with global reach”.
Billy lifted the replica European Cup Celtic retained after their 1967 win and, unprompted, said, “It was a long tunnel in Lisbon.
“Wee Bertie [Auld] started singing the Celtic Song and we all joined in; I think the Italians thought they were playing a pub team.
“We thought we were indestructible, but now we have lost the two youngest members of the team, Bobby Murdoch and Jimmy Johnstone, and the oldest, Ronnie Simpson.
“We are still in touch with each other daily, I spoke to two of them [his Lions team mates] this morning and met John Clark on the way in.
As the trophy weighed heavy, he turned to the players around him, perhaps looking for someone else to in green and white hoops to life the European Cup.
Sunday cannot come quickly enough.
275 Comments:
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first
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too slow :-(
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Has anyone got a link or picture of the new Hoops?
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I have people I've never met coming all the way from Kobe Japan to the game on Sunday.
They get to see the hoops and meet me !
Global reach.
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Bigjock67
they are on the official site
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Can't wait to see the fruits of the planning in Team 3.
New strip looks smart.
Its great that our Lisbon Lions are so entwined with the club.
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New hoops
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Cheers Whitedog/vclxi, strip looks real smart, not too disimilar to the current strip though.
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vclxi, I preferred the all black kit that was on there earlier in the week!
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I've come up with a new kit design that will help us to get more penalty awards from Scottish referees.
Well, you know those mugs you can get where a picture appears when you pour a hot drink into them, and then fades as the drink cools?... I thought that if we had the shirts made using the same technology, we could start the game in the hoops, then as the players ran about and got hot the shirts would change to blue. The refs would then feel compelled to award us penalties if we were ever two goals down with 5 minutes to go (as per Rangers youths in their last league game)!
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Arthur Lee -
is this music thing Wishy Tim's version of Woodstock ?
Stockcube ?
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Shouldn't we be petitioning the SPL or the SFA to make an exception and give John Kennedy a league winner's medal this season? After all, he sacrificed three years of his career for the Scottish national team.
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New Rumour mill's up
Etims Rumour Mill
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Yay google
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The mystery star who's presenting the trophy on Sunday-perhaps someone with a Lisbon connection?
Re WishaeStock,as Joni might put it
We are Buckfast
We are golden
And we've got to get ourselves
Back to Strathaven.
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Part time poster long time reader,
and even more part time recently sortying out new login.
New top looks good.
Just wish we didn't need to have a big Carling splash across it.
Business needs come first I suppose.
Looking forward to Sunday
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I think the club get 20 league medals issued and they decide how to split them up (using the 10 game rule for example).
I suspect JFK wouldn't want one handed to him without earning it but you never know.
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jsm69
my old top has buckie stains splashed across it
still looks good just like me
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jsm69, I think you can contact the Superstore and order a top without the Carling logo. Tell 'em you're teetotal and object to advertising alcohol.
I'm sure someone posted something to this effect last year.
If you don't ask...
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wg
i thought woodstock was a sparrow
its the breaking in of the new shoes parade.
the Walk
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The ML2ers should request the removal of the CARLING splash and the putting on of the Buckfast coat of arms
I'll settle for the Abbot's Mitre for the combo of the South Devon red and Abbot's Ale
Wishystock would be oan YouTubes immediately
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Arthur Lee -
I know, they do it every time we win the league, I'm sick looking at them
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The new superstore page says "07/08".
Does anyone know if that's accurate - i.e. this strip is for 1 season only?
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The new shirt looks the biz but it's only for season 07/08...Is this the way ahead with Nike & Celtic or is the Euro Cup Ann. being used as the reason to have the strip for one season only??
Anyhoo won't stop me raiding the pound pot to round up the necessary funds!!..
Hail! Hail! to the CHAMPIONS!
JC
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NEIL LENNON will not be remembered as a Celtic legend - according to a Celtic legend.
Charlie Nicholas, in his English newspaper column, says of the current skipper: "Overall, Lennon has not been good enough to be classed a legend.
"He has made a career out of being a traffic warden in the middle of the park. Nothing wrong with that, and I compliment him on becoming wealthy by following instructions."
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Spooky timing new!
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yes it is one year only.
its a special edition.
40 years after lisbon.
can hardly use it the following year when its 41 can they?
they may just drop the lisbon logos though.
special guest for trophy presentation rumour no 1888....
king of kings
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It makes sense new, as it is commemorating that season, albeit like the Millenium celebrations they are a little confused about which season we should celebrate "forty years since...".
As we won the EC in 1966-7, I'd have thought the "forty years since" would have been celebrated throughout the season just finished, not in the 41st season since!
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This season is the 40th anniversary of the Lisbon season.
Maybe this strip is for May-July and there'll be a new one out in August.
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Erm, I think that should be "Millennium" and "the season just about to finish", as we still have the little matter of the Scottish Cup to play for!
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NURSE!! Bring me the men in white coats:
(From Yahoo)
"Rangers captain Barry Ferguson claims Walter Smith should have beaten Gordon Strachan to the Scottish PFA's Manager of the Year award.Strachan was recognised by the SPFA members at a dinner in Glasgow on Sunday evening, having led Celtic to the SPL title and into the Scottish Cup final.
But Ferguson believes Smith's achievements with Scotland and Rangers marked him out as the outstanding candidate.
"As far as I'm concerned, Walter is the manager of the year. People might say I'm biased but I think the facts speak for themselves," said Ferguson.
"You just have to look at the job he did with Scotland in the first half of the season - including that fantastic win over France.
"And then you just have to look at what he has done here by coming in, steadying the ship and vastly improving our fortunes."
Ferguson's view is controversial, given that Smith quit his job with the Scotland team in January to return for a second spell as manager of Rangers.
However Rangers' fortunes have certainly improved since Smith returned, and they are finishing the season strongly.
Smith could yet be named the Scottish Football Writers' Association's manager of the year, with that award to be handed out on May 13.
"Domestically we have had great results and we were very close to getting past Osasuna (in the UEFA Cup)," Ferguson told Rangers News.
"So in my eyes he should be the man that is named manager of the year.
"I am excited about the future under Walter Smith. He will no doubt go out and sign some players in the summer and new faces coupled with the talent we have here is good news for Rangers."
Surely to collect his, ahem, deserved award, at least one member of the ran666rs squad would have had to turn up at the awards dinner?
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if e-tims are to be believed
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Could it be double Dutch up front - with wee Scot as back up?
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Awe-naw - Nicholas is a muppet and was a total waste of God-given talent as a player.
Makes my blood boil when I hear that one-season wonder described as a Celtic Legend.
TTTTgrrrrr
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31003
I have no more information than the next guy.
I did think though the club perhaps had a wee go at him last year.
Maybe it is his time this year round.
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We can dream
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Thought for the Day,with Rabbi Lionel Green
Neil LENNON=Mensch.
Charlie NICHOLAS=Schmuck.
Go figure.
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a very good video link at the bottom of this piece about the new strip.
(click here to see new strip)
Maybe someone else can do a straight link- I cannot as it is mms.
67
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Blog broke?
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Naw...............its no
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27/04/07 15:05, spirit of arthur lee
Stains acceptable - splashes are just poor aiming.
27/04/07 15:05, BigChipSuk
I ouldn't keep a straight face if I tried saying i was T-Total, probably couldn't stand straight either.
Dya think if I keep bolding people will think P8ddy is back.
Or have I missed him on my recent scans through the blog.
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im not to sure how much our club gets from coors for sponsorship of the strip ,but if 50000 season tkt holders paid £20 more theres a £million i would gladly pay as would others
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Off now to the Wishy music fest second only to the New Orleans Jazz Fest.
i will leave you with a Bear and a blue House.(its for the kids)
: Hey, this was really fun
: We hope you liked it too
: Seems like we've just begun
: When suddenly we're through
: Goodbye, goodbye, good friends, goodbye
: 'Cause now it's time to go
: But, hey, I say, well, that's OK
: 'Cause we'll see you very soon, I know
: (Very soon, I know)
: Goodbye, goodbye, good friends, goodbye
: And tomorrow, just like today
: (Goodbye - today)
: The moon, the bear and the Big Blue House
We'll be waiting for you to come and play
To come and play, to come and play
Bear: Bye now!
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Theweeman,
good concept,but I think you may be in a minority.
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Had alook at the new top.
All I can think of is Yep,another 160 dollars.Then I will have eight tops hanging in my wardrobe!!!
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Outsanding contribution from superblaw on Celticminded.com
"Neil Lennon, a tribute (By me )
Lurgan is not a salubrious area and is characteristic of many Plantation Ulster settlements, with its straight, wide planned streets and rows of cottages. During the troubles, Lurgan and the associated towns of Portadown and Craigavon made up what is known as the "murder triangle".
Growing up in the seventies as a young boy, Neil Lennon knew that even his tender years would not save him from a vicious beating, and perhaps much worse, were he to stray into the wrong side of town. His father Gerard did as much as he could to keep his son away from the madness which threatened to consume the town in its vice-like grip of atavistic and primitive mutual hatred. As the marching season began the young Neil would learn, like his forefathers before him, that it was time to know his place. Lie down Croppie, surrender or you'll die. The ritual humiliation of the indigenous Catholics was as fixed as the stars in the firmament. Come July, come what may, they will march in an attempt to demonstrate their racial superiorty over the Taig untermensch. Social conventions must be observed and the old certainties reinforced. Keep Paddy in his place.
As barbarity followed barbarity, the one thing that kept Neil Lennon sane was the fanciful notion of one day playing for Celtic football club. For someone in his position, Celtic shone like a beacon in a world which had descended into primeval bestiality. Moreover, it was the one place in an ever decreasing world of options, Neil Lennon could be Neil Lennon. To be a Catholic and to be Irish, truly Irish, was not regarded as an act of treason and a sin at birth.
For Gerard Lennon, football literally offered a way out for Neil, a real escape from a chaotic and disintegrating world. The mundane ordinariness of Crewe or Leicester may not mean much to the casual observer, but to his father it offered a haven for his son, not just physical safety but peace from the soul destroying insitutionalized sectarianism of Protestant Ulster that corrodes the mind and heart.
Then he encountered Martin O'Neill, an older and perhaps wiser soul mate. He nurtured him in the relative obscurity of the East Midlands. There is was safe to be Neil Lennon, it was safe to be what you were.This was a civilized society after all. None of the not so discreet enquiries about your last name and if in doubt, the final clincher, "what school did you attend son?".
The future was stable for Neil Lennon, never blessed with the ability to be a superstar, nevertheless under O'Neill's careful tuition a stable and relatively lucrative career beckoned. Then Celtic came calling. First O'Neill, and then O'Neill's lieutenant.
Neil Lennon may well have thought about the consequences of his signing for Celtic. He would have fully realized that signing for Celtic in most people's eyes would have simply meant nothing more than a headline stuck away in the back pages of the sport's section. But he would have discerned instinctively that in the minds of a select club of bigots, his decision to sign for Celtic was a statement that they would never accept. Celtic is inclusive,
by way of contrast the Protestant statelet was specifically established to exclude and pre-dated South Africa's abomination of Apartheid.
Lennon had transgressed the unspoken law of the Catholic from the occupied North, he had professed his love for Celtic. There would be no turning back, ever.
Some moments stick in your mind forever, just like that bulge behind Giulio Sarti's net in Lisbon as a Tommy Gemmell blockbuster launched Celtic into immortality in 1967.
In a very different sense, the first time Neil Lennon touched the ball at Ibrox lingers like a painful scar which will never heal.We are all used to footballers being abused, being booed, being vilified for whatever misdemeanour, real or imagined. But what rose from the fetid, diseased terraces of three sides of the theatre of evil called Ibrox defied imagination. There we held the authentic, unrepentant voice of the red neck, racist supremacist. And Neil Lennon's crime? ................To be Neil Lennon.
As he stood there alone as the recipient of the filth and the verbal pollution which passes as part of the "Rangers tradition", Neil Lennon must have found himself transported back to the hate filled streets of Lurgan where being a Lennon meant you were a marked man.
Only in Scotland could the object of hatred, become himself the cause of his own 'misfortune". Many an adjective has been used by a tired out, limited hack to try and defend the indefensable. Lennon according to Scotland's finest brought it upon himself because he was "combative', 'loud', ággressive',
'provocative', 'angry'........so many words spent,so many trees felled..all in vain.
The problem was not Neil Lennon, it was Rangers as it always has been. They represent an anachronism, a way of life and a set of values which no longer apply. Black people, Irish people, homosexuals, handicapped people are part of our wider society, not the narrow white Anglo-Saxon world which is deferential to an archaic and discredited monarchy. Celtic gave something to Neil lennon and by God , he gave a lot to us in return.
Neil son, I salute you!
We will never forget you."
pablophanque
No.1 This day in History
All Kinds Of Everything - Dana. 1970
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Awright,I will try again.
Paul,I have met Billy once in a hotel in Busby(I think).
Just after he had been reappointed via the car park.
Asked him if he thought we had a chance,he said"why do you think I am here,we have always had a chance when I have been here,or words to that effect.
I believed him at the time,as I was talking to one of my childhood heroes,turned out it was because he was right.
On another point,Charlie nicholas COULD have been a Celtic legend,but at the first sign of a few shekels,he chose not to be.
Stuff him.
his job at the moment is to create as much controversy as possible.
If he manages that it means we are listening to him.
Ignore him,he is a muppet.
PJ,thanks for the compliment,as you know the time difference is a killer,and any time I beat Paul with anything it is purely down to me not having much to do at work,or on the other hand,having a wee chat before I go to bed.
Sometimes the time difference works to our advantage,as long as you don't include kick off times
Kano
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Pablo,good stuff,
should try daein one yersel.
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Hi Fellow Celtic Fans!
I have just had a look at the new home strip and associated 'hype' on the Celtic FC Home Page. Perhaps I am just an emotional Celtic Fan who is old enough to remember watching it (the '67 Final) as a wee bhoy on TV, and then being unable to contain myself and running out on to the street and shouting "Ceeeeltiiiiiiic!!!" like crazy, but I have to say that I have a very good feeling about the team and the fans wearing this shirt next season. I hope it augurs well and our performances next season reflect the 'Fairy Tale' that Big Billy is fond of reminding us of.
Best Regards,
Jim. (Who will wear the shirt with PRIDE!)
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Kano-slightly interrupted but further thoughts on the Wizards of Oz and their generation of domination..
Border,Taylor,Waugh and now Ponting have all captained the team[assisted no doubt by a string of less illustrious coaches and selectors]without any significant dip in performance since they climbed to the top of the world rankings.Great players have come and gone but the Baggy Green Machine just keeps rolling over any opponents in its path.When there is a threat,like England last year,then the recent Ashes series showed how to treat your oldest sporting rivals-foot on the throat and keep squeezing.
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The wee man, I am always reluctant to see, or encourage, talking our sponsors down.
Sponsoring Celtic is a business proposition costing millions of pounds each year (your 5,000 people giving £20 extra each would cover half the money Carling put in). If the sponsors see their involvement being viewed in a negative light, their perceived value from the deal will be less….
… as will our future income….
… as will our future expenditure.
The main benefit sponsors buy when investing in Celtic is brand perception. They will measure this as well as any increase in sales, which is why I now buy Carling (or their associated brands).....
...because I want perceived value from sponsoring Celtic to increase...
...because I want Celtic's future income to increase...
...because I want Celtic's future expenditure to increase.
Getting those Nike and Carling tattoos was painful. Just as well we only have two main sponsors; I only have the two discrete cheeks.
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Paul,have you been,by any chance,at a "business lunch"?
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Paul, are you inferring that our two main sponsors are a pain in the a*** ?
pablophanque
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pablo what about the old sponser
carsemith
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Michael,I will give you some idea of the finances behind the game here.
The boxing day test,which is every year at the MCG,regularly attracts the best part of 75,000.This is the first day of what could be a five day game.
I will repeat that,five days.
You could be talking 250,000 at one test.
And they usually play five tests(and about 723 one day games in any one "tour".
They are so far ahead in terms of finance,sponsorship,and set up,that if they were not beating everybody constantly,then everybody associated with it should be shot.
But even considering this,and probably because of thet,I get the feeling that nobody outside of Australia(and quite a few within it)do not rate them as highly as past great international teams.
great individuals,certainly,but not a great team.
but then again,who am i to comment on it.
Personally I think anybody who plays,watches,follows,or has the slightest bit of interest in cricket,or dicket,as I call it,should be castrated,or at the very least,be banned from breeding.
Then again.
Thats probably why I am not the country's sports administrator.
Soon die cricket,and may the Australian team lead the way.
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paul ,i dont agree if we must have a shirt sponsor i think we should be careful who we jump into bed with(beer goggles and all that)i personally dont think its right for it to be an alchohol company.a few months ago celtic said that ALL kids tops would be sponsor free however on club site even the infant kits have a sponsor on it. does anyone think it right that kids tops still have carling on them
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The wee man,it matters not where the advert may appear.
it is up to the parent to teach the kid what is correct.
It is the same as blaming the bar for you crashing your car when driving home drunk.
It is not the bar's fault,it is yours.
It is not an advert on a football top which is responsible for kids drinking alcohol,it is the parents of the kids for allowing them to do so,or failing to teach them to ignore it.
We are not buying the tops for our kids because of the sponsor on the front(most people outside of britain have a clue who the sponsor is,nor what they make.
The kids are taught it is a Celtic top,and the name may well chenge in a few years.
Forget what is on it,it is the strip that counts.
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I meant to say they don't have a clue,obviously.
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Nae marathon the night people.
Night all.
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Kano, :-)
Alas, no. 'Been hitting the anti-histamines hard today.
Pablo, I supposed I asked for that one.
the wee man, I am sure I would have heard if Celtic said kids shirts would be sponsor free, but I did not.
Although I did not have a 'drink' at lunch time, I do occasionally partake, so you have the moral high ground over me on this one.
I have the odd beer, and do not hide this fact from my kids, so I cannot really ask Celtic to adopt an arguably higher moral code than I do in my own home.
Beer is an acceptable part of my life, as it is for the vast majority of people. It can be destructive, but so can many things; I know the Leicester City/Walkers Crisps deal got hassle.
I'm away to admire my tattoos; where's that mirror?
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Imagine having an anti-histamine brand on our shirt!!
Maybe we could call Celtic drug dealers then.
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Paul, if it reads, "NIKE & CARLING" in the morror, you're in bother......... ;o)))
pablophanque
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Paul
I think da time has come tae supply some food fur thought,
Why did Celtic tie up JFK, so quick that it did surprise a lot?
Fur we hiv mair C.Bs, at Celtic Park ,
than Noo York it has rats,
Noo, whit dae we need wi anither wan?
Ah'll calmly ask you that.
The answer tae ma question, friends, is written very clear,
It diz reveal Bobo's time is up,
an' he'll leave withoot a tear!
Noo Lenny's gone, tae some's dismay,
as he wiz a stuffy guy,
We'll miss his drive, but times do chinge,
so we bid him a fond guid bye!
An' den ders Jiri o' the languid style,
that nevah quite caught on,
Mebbe, some day he'll play da lead in Kirov's, "The Dying Swan!"
So farewell, Jiri, guid bye, guid luck,
There may be a berth Sooth, fur you,
but, if ye dinna change yer style and pace......
Ah'm afraid it's da Broo fur you!
Bhoy Beats he has miny a problem,and thur stickin' oot a Mile,
He's awkward, he is Gangly,an' his confidence is aff da Bile!
He is far, far, too injury prone,an' his guile is no worth much!
An' Ah hivnae even mentioned....
The atrocious an' fumbling movement,
That passes for his Foist Touch!
Beats, guid bye.. ah know ye really try,
But sad to say, at da end o
May,
da time has come tae part.
Fur if da players come...who we hiv in mind...
Ye'll Nevah get a Start!
Ah saved the Woisest fur da Last... his name it rhymes wi' Killer!
But his "Scoring" record is way doon there, wi' ma ole freen... Phyllis Diller!
Oh, wait a tick... there is wan name mair... but he may escape the gate....
Fur we canny mak up mind or no, if Brash Tommy, we should hate!
He really hisnae had a chance tae strut his stuff fur us,
So mebbe, we should no be so anxious,tae shove him AFF, da Bus!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin',Awaggin'
Ah could smile....... but ah'm afraid, Ah canny...
Fur it's so lonely here without da boys,an' goil,
as thurs only me an' da Janny!
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OK You can own up to this crime in the privacy of this blog.
I heard on the radio just now that Morrison's supermarket in Kilmarnock is reporting the theft of 2 six foot four cardboard cut-out policeman. They were used by the store as an anti-theft deterrent. They seemed to achieve this task quite successfully until certain visiting football fans visited the store last Sunday.
Come on, confession is good for the soul. Or you could just shop yir pal.
Bill Knox csc
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Kano 18.19 "imagine an anti- histamine brand on our shirts"
Thats a deal not to be sneezed at.
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Is it just a little sad that the Rumour Mill can be one of the major highlights in a week? Cracking stuff.
Anybody got a link to the singing of that group of South African football fans in grren and white?
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Bloke 109
Noel will have if he's around.
Blomfontein they're called.
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Evening. A belated congratulations to Mr Kennedy on his fine return to first team football. Welcome back. I checked out the clinics website and left a wee message to be sent on to Dr Steadman. He'll probably never get it but what the hell.... Anyway off for a night of japes and high jinks and general tomfoolery which will no doubt involve copious amounts of "da black stuff"
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EDB
Cheers - couldn't remember their name. It's just magic.
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Anybody want to buy a 6ft cardboard cut-out policeman ?
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Sheer Genius
nicked from The Huddleboard.
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Terry 19.03
:))))))))))))))))
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The View Of Nakamuras Title Winning Goal From Inside BAIRDS BAR !
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noel90
Fan-tastic - thanks for that. Just looks magic. Think we could get the Jungle Bhoys to organise this for Sunday?
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i like the new shirt - it's clean and traditional, which is always better than what a sportswear company thinks is cutting edge.
but i must say - haven't we played "1967" to it's conclusion yet?
it seems to me that by playing 1967 up soooo much, we are also implicitly accepting that the best moment this club has experienced is gone. you don't see inter milan playing up 1965, or hamburg prancing around with "25 years since 1983" - these clubs believe they can win the european cup again, and when they do, the last time they won it will just be another year...
it seems to me that by making "1967" an intimately linked part of celtic, we are also accepting that we will never reach the summit again...
and i believe we can. porto is a smaller city than glasgow and portugal only has 10 million people... they manage, and not only that, they constantly make the knock-out rounds. it's not about money, it's about mentality.
that said, i would rather have 1967 than not, so i can't complain too much.
hail hail
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Noel
Morrisons are offering £100 worth of "groceries" for the safe return of those policemen.
I don't think they understand the motivation of the people they're dealing with.
Groceries???
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SFTBs-
Groceries ?
They can stick them.
£100 worth of Stella and they can have the soggy[I dropped him in a puddle] copper back.
That's if the weans are fed up using him as a goalie.........
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Title Celebrations ?
Fill Yer Boots !
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Cheers Noel,loved the Bloemfontein Celtic singsong never tire of seeing it.
What's the deal with those giant golf tees that the fans are waving in the video?
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Terry-
they're for using with their giant golf bats........
just get me coat........
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Noel
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS AND OUR CAPTAIN - NEIL LENNON.
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Are you about, WinningGemmell?
Robyn Hitchcock is on BBC4 tonight at 9.00.
Maybe one of the ML2 crowd could pass the word on.
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DB
He's probably in the Teser drinking odd beer.
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gallinero,
I tend to agree about 1967. We all laugh at the English for 1966 and all that- but are we any better?
Having said that, when your brand has a USP, play on it for all its worth!
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Got to say that the Rumour Mill sometimes gets me dreaming. It's when they come out with stuff like buying Darren Fletcher for £2.5m that brings you back down to earth.
I see the share price is now at 60 new pennies, precisley double the subscription price at the latest rights issue.
With EPL teams being bought on what seems to be a weekly basis, it is not surprising that some hot money has found a home in Celtic shares.
I see the latest club on the block is Man City for c.£110m.
The last time I did the sums, Celtic's market capitalisation was £87m on a fully diluted basis i.e. conversion of preference shares etc.
I think the next real test of our value will be the price for which Murray sells Rangers. If a parochial, second rate, West of Scotland football club sells for c.£150m (which is only a 20 - 25% prmium over the book value of Mordor), watch our shares rocket.
Mind you, I tend to have a higher benchmark when valuing Celtic - Manchester United, who were sold for £750m.
That value will never be unlocked so long as we play in the SPL, but one day......
Really looking forward to Sunday.
My only complaint is that it's Sunday, which will have a psycological impact on the celebratory beers, given I get up for work at 6.
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Sorry people I'm way behind here. Can't post at work any more. Anyway this is what I meant to post earlier:
Why are people so quick to dismiss McManus? I'm talking to you WGS and ross for the other night.
He came into the team last season and helped improve the defence. He did pick up a few bookings through rash tackles but, in my opinion, those tackles were his way of introducing himself to the guys he would/will be facing every week. Strikers must go onto the park knowing that at some point he will be hitting them - a good thing.
His booking count is down this season, I believe, but he does still carry that bit of menace required.
I am absolutely delighted that John Kennedy is back. Himself and Mick can form a good cop/bad cop team for years to come.
I've said it before on here, and elsewhere, that we have a centre half who is every bit as good as John Terry, right now, on our books. This guy is also in possession of the jersey (football cliche no. 1354) and it is up to the likes of O'Dea to prove they are more deserving.
Then I read VCLXI's Herald censorship story. Who is he trying to kid? He's the biggest diary tart I know. The minute there's a bootle of whisky on offer as a prize he'll be right in there punning cunningly.
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Timmy7,
Your entitled to your opinon mate. I respectit.
However, If it was a choice between JK and McManus and O Dea. It would be O Dea and Kennedy for me. Far better players in my view.
McManus has came on leeps and bunds no doubt about it. But for me Kennedy and O Dea far better.
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Cheers WGS, you are a gent.
Folks who know me know I'm into the darker aspects of the game as much as the beautiful side, if not more - as long as the dark arts are performed with class. Mick's got that. I also believe he has the nastiness we need for when the going gets rough. John and Darren look too nice :¬) and I don't really see anyone else in the team with it either. Remember der hun will be in full rottweiller (sp) mode next season and I fear for our ball players with no Sutton, Thompson or even Lennon types to step in when required.
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looking forward to sundays game, trophy presentation,then perhaps later on presentation of grandchild number 1,
oh nappy days
hail hail
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Collie, very entertaining rhyme tonight, thank you.
I cannot argue with your verdict, though I am surprised that Tommy has caught your soft side. Maybe another couple of games before the end of the season will sort that. Did you see him up against hard-tackling Momo Sylla on Sunday? Hmmm.
I cannot see Beattie getting a move with his injury record.
Gallionero, I bet Hamburg fans and Inter Milan fans do celebrate their European Cup success. I would also suggest we are far more likely than Hamburg to do it again, I am not even sure if they have played in the CL.
GM, I hear that there is no basis in the rumour about Darren Fletcher.
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Parkheadcumsalford @ 10.27 - previous thread.
Bobby Jeffrey?
He joined us in 1962, the same year as Jimmy Johnstone and Tommy Gemmell.
In fact he played in the same junior team, Coltness United, as Tommy Gemmell.
He only made about 8 or 9 first team appearances and had an unhappy debut at Celtic Park against QOS, we lost 1-0.
He did actually play in a victory against Rangers (pretty unusual in those days) in the Glasgow Cup replay at Celtic Park, we won 3-2 in extra time.
It was a pea-souper of a Wednesday afternoon and Paddy Crerand and Bobby Murdoch got the goals.
Despite that great effort we lost 2-1 in the final to Third Lanark at Hampden!
He seems to have been a bit of an unlucky player because he left Celtic at the beginning of October 1963 and joined Airdre.
Three weeks later he turned out for them aginst us and we demolished them 9-0, would have been 10 if my hero Frank Haffey hadn't missed the penalty!
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I noticed the Rumour Mill got mentioned Gudjohnsen.
Oh well that text i got last Sunday saying the exact same coming up from Rugby Park might have some truth in it. Doubt it though.
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anyone help with the following:
1. Can you buy tickets for run of the mill league games at Celtic Park on the interweb? - I've been asked and have no idea.
2. How can I get a 20+ years old collection of games on VHS transferred to DVD? Do I need to buy a DVD recorder type thing and do it myself or is there somewhere that will do it for me?
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Paul, I detect a slightly mystchevious tone to your response.
£2.5m for an EPL player who didn't look out of place in a CL semi-finaL, compared with the £4m being banded about for wee Skoosh seems strange to me.
Then again, I'm the first to admit I know very little.
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Paul67
Hamburg played in the CL this season.
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Combined, JFK and Darren O'Dea have played about 50 games for Celtic. McManus has played almost 100 in 24 months.
I sincerely believe that Stephen McManus is the best defender in Scotland bar none. Bobo 03 doesn't count any more. I also watch his peers such as Michael Dawson in the EPL and think - NO!
In our 8 games in the CL this year McManus was flawless - I look forward to the day he leads us out!
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Darren Fletcher would be a sensational, repeat - sensational player for Celtic.
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danny, I blame the anti-histamines.
GM, I didn't read the rumour mill, but do know you can forget about Fletcher.
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timmy7 - we know how the waistcoat is going to play it next season. He won't have the money for the quality flair players he could afford last time(!), so it'll be a mostly Scottish team of ordinary players that he can get to run through brick walls.
That's his strength. Caesar was similar as a manager.
Sticking my neck out here, but unless we respond to that then they might NOT LOSE an OF game next season! I admit my thoughts might be affected by the waistcoat's previous turn at the helm.....
WE will still win the title though, as they will drop daft points due to the lack of quality in their side.
Discuss!?
TTTTputtingonflakjacket
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Keane, Bellamy, Fletcher, Sidwell, here we go plundering the EPL again !
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Really disgusted at Charlie Nicholas's comments today re Neil Lennon. Nicholas's contribution to the club doesn't even begin to compare to Lenny's.
For a much more accurate summing up of Lenny's Celtic career have a look at this article by Alan Davidson in yesterday's Evening Times. Sadly (and perhaps unsurprisingly) Davidson ducks the issue of Lenny's treatment by opposition fans but otherwise it's a fitting tribute to a truly great Celt.
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Ah, so you were being serious the first time.
Sometimes I find it difficult to tell.
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Paul
Why can we forget about Fletcher?
ahem, Kenny Miller is not a target for Celtic...
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