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Thursday, May 03, 2007
Ferguson should learn a lesson from Strachan

I was travelling yesterday evening when I heard Sir Alex Ferguson’s pre-match comments explaining how Manchester United would play their “own way” against Milan, “we only know one way to play”, which is evidently true. Maybe he should have taken notes from his former player.

Despite our heroic victory in November, Manchester United are a better team than Celtic, with better players, however, all they needed from their visit to Milan was the same result Celtic achieved in February.

Gordon Strachan received criticism in many quarters for not being more adventurous against an “over the hill” AC Milan, but it appears self evident that a more expansive approach from Celtic would have brought a similar, or probably worse, defeat.

Milan are a fabulous team; three Champions League finals in five years, four semi finals in that time. Our performance in both legs, though ultimately fruitless looks no less heroic. If you are my age, you were brought up on Celtic teams who attacked at every opportunity. You were also brought up on Celtic teams who were eliminated from European football by their first serious opponents.

Setting out to primarily defend home and away is counter culture, but had one or two breaks gone their way in Milan, Celtic would have had the opportunity to test their defence in Munich, and Milan would have suffered their earliest exit from Europe in seven years.

Gordon Strachan deserved his Manager of the Year title for schooling his resources against two of the finest teams in Europe, not to mention his second Scottish title. He is growing in the job; when he arrived he might have been tempted to send his team out with similar instructions as Sir Alex issued last night, but a really important lesson was learned on day one.

To turn a 0-1 extra time defeat against the European Champions (elect) into a deserved victory will take a lot; players, ‘heroic’ scouting, money and time, but the one thing we are not short of is a coach who can take-on the best.

Congratulations Gordon, I am proud of you.
Posted by Paul67 at 12:12 PM :: 

299 Comments:
  • At 03/05/07 12:15, winningemmell said…

    Ghonk

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:16, MuppetBhoy said…

    Well done Gordon

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:23, winningemmell said…

    Fergie, Fergie, shut yer mooth

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:25, curly said…

    Paul -

    For one I agree with you. The tactics gave a result, which while ultimately fruitless, gave me great pride in my team. As teams in the SPL showed this season against us - if you can keep it tight and restrict the classy team to only one goal, a result is not impossible to get. A wee break from the ref could have seen us through.

    WG -

    Why call Paul67 a ghonk?

    MuppetBhoy -

    Fit like? When you heading Turra way next?

    Curly

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:26, winningemmell said…

    Curly -

    he's been called worse.......

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:27, bambi said…

    I wonder if Ferguson is the last of that breed of manager, who sends out his team to play the same way ie attacking, no matter who they play. The other top managers at the sharp end of the CL tend to change their shape/team depending on the opposition. Even Rijkaard at Barca this season tried a 343 as they were being outnumbered in midfield. I think the days of purely attack minded teams winning are going to be fewer and fewer, Barca being the exception last season rather than the rule.

    Having said that I thought the Roma manager, Spalletti, fell into that trap at OT in the last round, he played the same formation as always but without two key players in certain positions and then continued to attack leaving huge gaps at the back.

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:27, michael said…

    He also got his MOTY title by default,as there were clearly no other candidates in the frame.

    And Benfica away?

    Copenhagen away?That was a potentially group winning tie.

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:30, antsman said…

    paul 67

    excellent article i for one remember you saying for a while if we went for it against milan we could get humbled and wgs got his tactics right, the milan results against bayern and man u bear this out

    i think also credit should go to our defence as while man u may claim injury crisis heinze still cost more than our entire defence as did vidic

    the only team who looked like they might put milan out were us and those penalty claims strengthen the case, tho there is no guarantee we would of converted them of course. i think that boruc,mcmanus and naylor are a good base and my only thing is we need a quality player with pace to facilitate counter attacks when employing these tactics

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:32, antsman said…

    yesterday i put out the question would barton be a good signing to a mixed response

    i might of known the next day the record would go for the lazy headline of us in for barton

    how do u calm him down?

    easy put him in a room with grav,artur and bobo!

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:33, BlantyreKev said…

    In the circumstances we face that's the most pragmatic approach Paul, set out your team to achieve the best result. I don't think that realistically we could have it any other way and I have nothing but admiration and respect for WGS for that.

    The significance of timing is pretty poignant though when you think of what the Lions faced and overcame almost exactly 40 years ago. I've heard it said, and it's easy to agree as a Celtic fan, that in many ways the Lisbon Lions rescued football. The catanaccio(sp) defensive set up was strangling football and the Lions defeated it and set it back decades. Feyenoord and Ajax took up the mantle and Liverpool after them. Permeated throughout with Real Madrid teams that were full of footballers and entertainers.

    Football is faster, players fitter and space in which to show flare is diminishing all the time. More and more games are like chess games.

    The way I see it we are soon going to need someone to emulate the Lions, to again rescue the game. Sadly it won't be us as the playing field is no longer even. Finance and movement of football labour dictates that more than ever. In the meantime we're making the best of it and punching above our weight but we're playing the same game.

    I'm still a happy clapper though and it's a sunshining champion day!

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:38, Paul67 said…

    Michael, there were 11 other candidates in the frame, 12 if you count Paul LeGuen. They all lost the league, every single one of them.

    Your comment illustrates how clear his margin of victory was, but I bet you didn’t think it would be so easy when LeGeun was appointed.

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:44, michael said…

    P67-you're right[gasp!shock!]I didn't think The Nameless would be so poor;I also thought Darth Walter would have minimal impact on them;so what do I know...

    However,I do think that Mr Strachan lacks the tactical spark to take us to the next level.No doubt I am wrong about this also but we're not going to fall out over it;)

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:46, Paul67 said…

    antsman, agree. The players we have done as well as they could, also agree on the penalty kick conversion chances.

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:48, Paul67 said…

    Michael, what do you mean we are not going to fall out over it! I demand you find some indignation :-)

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:48, greenlion2 said…

    A clip from soccer AM taken from CM who took it from HB.

    the new strip

    Also someone earlier on in the week said about 442 running a piece about the lions. I bought it last night. Interesting article most of what teh players say you will have read before but some of the fans stuff was good.

    PS I think I have after all my years of following Celtic became a memeber of the prawn sandwich munching brigade... I hope the lioness does nto find out as she will think ive got more money!!!

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:54, greenlion2 said…

    Paul on the MoTY IF (and its a big IF) Dunfermline stay up I think that their boss would have had a good shout for it as well if the voting was at the end of the season.

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:56, michael said…

    P67-I'm saving all my indignation for PlatWAT-the guy whose ears are in worse condition than David Murray's legs.

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:58, better than martin said…

    Paul,

    This is a pathetic article. Whey do you praise players when you can criticise them

    Lead the way Michael

    Better than Martin

     
  • At 03/05/07 12:59, curly said…

    michael / dbia -

    can you drop me a line on my e-mail via my blog.

    Ta

    Curly

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:01, antsman said…

    whilst fergie did go with attacking tradition i don't think that means neglect basic defendings, against milan we done the basics right, thats the platform. then it takes the special players to get a goal or create something. i am not saying jiri is special but he done well to get that ball across for maldini to handle

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:26, clawhammer said…

    I don't think its altogether a matter of the tactics - I think its just a case of Milan being MUCH better on the night. And how many goals has Van der Saar conceded to his left side?

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:26, watchow said…

    clarence seedorf's middle name is clyde. apparentlie its because his parents went to glasgow on holiday from surinam. he has always had a strong desire to finish his playing days there as a result.

    south africa president tabo mbeki's father is called govan archibald mbeki.

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:28, Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    I agree with you wholeheartedly Paul. This goes back to what I wrote yesterday. We are not far away but we do need improving. With the age of our team and their hunger and our need financially for CL football the mix is perfect. Patience with this sqaud and manager is the key. I do wonder whether WGS has us playing in a particular way against domestic opposition because the all out attack philosphy that we are used to doing domestically does not benefit us on the European scene. It easy looking back in retrospect but maybe away to FC Kopenhagen was the most important game of the season rather than being one that we could afford to lose. That poor performance meant we met Inter Milan not that beating FCK was a forgone conclusion they also beat Man U lets not forget. The sqaud was well stretched that night and was a game too much at the time.

    I have to also state that I do believe that up until the Man U Milan tie that Milan were very fortuitous regarding officiating. The biggest problem that the pundits had this season was judging how good AC milan were due to their point deduction at the start of the season.

    Forza Glasgow Celtic.

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:35, Subterranean said…

    I strongly believe that the absence of prawn sandwiches from the stadium food outlets goes against the Celtic Social Charter.

    Here is my solution:

    Celtic should immediately contract a quality sandwich company to supply a range of sandwiches, filled croissants, rolls and bagels, to be available for sale from all food outlets within the stadium. The ordinary fan should not have to put up with only the limited, traditional choices of pies, pizzas and hot dogs.

    The new fare could be imaginatively named:-

    "Chairman of the Board" - honey-roasted free-range chicken, avocado and mango in organic, ciabatta with sun-fried tomatoes.

    "The Not So Negative Anon" - jeely piece (with extra jam tomorrow).

    "The Negative Anon" - spam salad wholemeal roll (no mayonnaise).

    "The P8ddy" - variable bold choices of fillings, frequently withdrawn from the menu.

    "The Gravesen Prawn Sandwich" - Overpriced seafood, dressed up in an Andre-Flo sauce (tomato ketchup and salad cream).

    Please feel free to add your own choices.

    Chris
    Suffering from high anxiety in restricted view, 410.

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:36, Gary said…

    I think that what ManU lacked last night was a leader on the park to gee them up. Lennon will be missed for the same reason

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:42, danny said…

    We never lose 3 goals away from home in the CL !

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:48, Patrick said…

    Watchow

    Can Clyde FC afford his wages?

    The Govan Mbeki story is correct. He was christened by a Pesbyterian minister from there. I don't think Thabo is a bluenose though.

    But Tony Greig, South African born and raised former England cricket captain and now comical commentator in Australia, is from Darnel stock.

    We do unfortunately attract them down here ...

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:49, thismancraig said…

    At the time I thought we were sensational in Milan and argued that we really did 'have a go'. I didn't need Milan to subsequently beat Munich and United to prove how good they were because I thought they were sensational at Celtic Park.

    They have perhaps the perfect formation with two outstanding fullbacks, a midfield who know each other's every move, Kaka and well they need a centre forward! It goes back to the world cup last year where Italy played a very similar formation to outstanding effect - they looked every inch the winner after the group stages to me (I'm only saying that because I tipped them as the outstanding European squad a yer previous). I loved it!

    AC Milan kept faith in their manager despite a number of less than succesful domestic seasons and cup final results. Carlo is up there with the very, very best and he benefited from patience.

    CattenaccioCSC

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:51, BlantyreKev said…

    What about the "Paul67 Board Cola" with the extra small straw so you have to really suck up to get anything out of it.

    Or "BlantyreKev celery sticks". Often tasteless and no value whatsoever.

    Not sure of the uptake on "Winningemmell unsaltened, unsweetened popcorn". Millions of them in every potion but barely a tasty one in any serving.


    BK
    jeezihopetheyseethehumourCSC

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:51, martinobhoy said…

    Milan were outstanding last night and I hope they go on to win the Final.

    I may be accused of having my green and white tinted specs on but I thought Aiden was far more effective in his appearance at the San Siro than Ronaldo was last night. Although a lot of credit for Ronaldo's anonimity was down to Gattuso. Now if there's one ex-Rangers player I'd love to see in the Hoops.....

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:56, watchow said…

    patrick

    shame about greig - i'm a fan of his work.

    whats the story with the preparations for the world cup? the press here are building up to it not being ready on time and having to be moved, with suprise, suprise, england being the favourites to step into the breach


    how about the big bad john - a sophisticated open sandwich consisting of a mars bar on fried white bread

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:58, Hanif Uno Dahistory said…

    How about anything other than the gut rotting food that's sold at the moment ?

    Jamie O'liver

     
  • At 03/05/07 13:58, BlantyreKev said…

    Funny how Milan are an experienced world class team all of a sudden, but an aging team that Celtic couldn't have met at a better time just a few weeks ago.

    As for the African names, I met Lionel Ritchie in Bairds Bar at lunchtime and he was telling me about his African cousins, Mbosa and Mfeeta.......

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:07, Subterranean said…

    ...not sure about the filling, but the "Noel90" would usually be first thing on the menu.

    A "Coterie" could be a multipack with a whole range of different fillings (that all taste the same).

    I blame the lack of reasonable debate. ;-)

    Will our main transfer targets be signed up for in time for pre-season start?

    Chris
    from the cheap seats.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:13, Hanif U Nodahistri said…

    Now that I've figured out how to blog again, some urgent business I've yet to post.


    F.A.O. WHOEVER CHOOSES THE MUSIC CELTIC PARK.

    Fans like to sing. Championees day is a very special day and is a time to let the fans sing classic songs.

    Putting on APPALLING music like Queen's We Are The Champions ( i mean, c'mon - fans have NEVER EVER EVER spontaneously sung this crap ) is RUINING the atmosphere.

    The easiest solution is to let it happen organically - let the people sing, don't force 'With a four-leafed cloever on my chist' on us - we don't sing it.

    I've no doubt some idiot will play WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS again at Hampden if we win, but please please please please don't.



    ( Hanif slams the door and goes back to melting down old Queen records )

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:19, ternar said…

    Paul,

    A very interesting article and one which i 'relatively' agree with you on.

    Gordon Strachan does deserve praise for his European tactics. He was very fortunate at times ( Nakamura free kick and Boruc penalty save) but he gets the credit.

    One thing I would like to add, is that our managers European tactics do not start on European games. They start in SPL games. Beating Kilmarnock 5-0 is of no use to us and never was. Holding the ball and playing possesion football when winning 2-0 is more important. This is what our manager has been doing. Preparing our team at all times for European football. This is where I bang my head telling people why we are sometimes 'boring'. Its Europe that counts. SPL is bread and butter.

    With regards Sir Alex......his football is 100% Jock Stein football, and I found you very brave to criticise the greatest Scottish manager of all time. A little tongue in cheek perhaps my friend ;)

    I am of the same age as you ( sometimes think i was at school with you ), and was always told our Jock attacked all the time....just like Sir Alex.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:20, hooptastic said…

    Milan showed just how good they are last night. And for the record they would only be 3 points off Inter if u forget the 15 point deficit.

    Some may argue that Inter have been off form, Ancelloti said from day 1 that as long as Milan get 4th then the Serie A doesnt matter this season.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:23, watchow said…

    hooptastic

    i think milans penalty was reduced to eight points. i might be wrong, though.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:23, thismancraig said…

    Kev

    It's Lazy Journalism, when the draw was made Milan were in the midst of their doldrums, brought on by being caught with their fingers in the till - so to speak. Between the draw being made, Milan spent £13m on Massimo Oddo and Ronaldo as well as winning 11 of 13 games in Seria A.

    Of the teams we could have faced I think we proved that we had more chance of beating Milan than any other side - given their style of play, not their quality.

    Big up to Graham Souness following his criticism of Neil Lennon's physique with 'this is an ordinary Milan team with no outstanding players, they won't go much further'.

    He knows his stuff does the beast.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:25, Paul67 said…

    better than martin, you have caught the mood of the moment.

    Danny, :-)

    martinobhoy, interesting point about Aiden v Ronaldo.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:29, dessybhoy said…

    I think AC are a team who can nullify the threat the opposition carry mainly down to pack dogs in the midfield like Gattuso and that is not in any way derisory, but essential to win matches.
    Perhaps Man U thought that they could play their game even at the San Siro at this stage of the competition, they were very mistaken. Maybe this was due to a lack of respect, but anyway their players did not perform.
    I was disappointed that when we beat Man U their manager was not complimentary towards us.
    Celtic need to plan carefully to play matches in Europe and hope our big players on the night perform.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:30, thismancraig said…

    ternar

    How's this for controversial:

    Jock Stein and Celtic underachieved in Europe during 9 in a row, we could and maybe should have won 4 times - in 1967, 1969, 1970 and 1974...Jock Stein's opinion, not mine!

    Much like Alex Ferguson and Manchester United, 1 final in 13 years of success is a poor return.

    Stein and Ferguson, first among equals!

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:32, Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    menu suggestions:

    The PL Waffle
    The PLC Jammy Dodger
    CQN SOOR plums
    BQ gobstoppers

    all would be big sellers I reckon and make us a fortune :-)

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:34, TheLeftWinger said…

    Re: Paradise Cuisine.

    As long as we avoid the contentious choices like Green pepperami sticks and Eggs Bennedict, i'm sure we'll be fine ;-)


    Has there been any confirmation as to the props/party theme for Saturdays visit to the zoo?

    I'm going to be further North than Curly for this weekend, so will be finding a non-bitter Ross-Shire pub to commence the celebrations.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:37, Hanif U Nodahistri said…

    green eggs and ham ?

    Sam I am.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:38, ternar said…

    thismancraig

    two very good points. the first about the difference in Milan from when we played them to last night. I also think the conditions played their part last night also.

    With regards Sir Alex and Big Jock, I like your thinking but i don't want to compare these 'equals' as you say.

    MartinBhoy - Aiden McGeady and Ronaldo should not be mentioned in the same sentence. Apologies for just doing so.

    Paul - can i ask a favour of you please ? At some point, could you post some info on our beloved board...how much money DD has invested etc.....the fact that BQ only takes 15k a year salary etc

    I am fed up listening to folk in pub etc slag these great men.

    any help on stats would be greatly appreciated.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:44, thismancraig said…

    Ternar

    Didn't mean the 'equals' as a debate starter, Ferguson is very close but there will only ever be one Jock Stein (the first person to say that would be Sir Alex). I'm a massive fan of his, despite his chat after we played them, and in a way I'm glad that his European Cup tally stays at 1.

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:47, michael said…

    The big problem with a CQN Buffet would be spending all night slaving over a hot stove only to find some lurker's scoffed the lot.

    Betterthan-there's so many MIcks on the blog but I'll take this bullet.Unjustified criticism is not helpful but neither is unjustified praise.El Gordo is clearly not a complete buffoon but he's not Brian Clough,either.

    OK there is a big job in the EPL coming up[hypothetically].GS takes the big bucks-how well do you think he would do.Back to back titles?

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:50, antsman said…

    VILLA have announced mon will have a big transfer budget with view to competing at top of table and for CL spots. Boruc is of course an alleged target as much as i love him he must have a price everyone does, any thoughts on what we think the club would accept, £4m i don't believe we would but i reckon ifit gets to £6-7M mark the board may start wanting to take it

    when does ambition stop and financial reality kick in? some would accuse selling him as a lack of ambition but even i think £6-7M we would have to seriously consider it

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:52, winningemmell said…

    SWALEX = DEFEATED DARNELIST

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:53, TheLeftWinger said…

    Michael,

    How much do we have to spend on this buffet?

    Is our budget dependent on involvement in next years buffet, or have we perhaps overspent on previous buffets?

    Some would surely be suspicious of the owners of the caterering company, and some wouldn't accept the banqueting manager despite the fact we would have the best buffet in Scotland again.

    All we need is a couple of new dishes and we'll have the best buffet for three years in a row, for the first time in 40 years.

    Are we still talking about food?

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:53, winningemmell said…

    ALLARLICE - FWEIND OF DEFEATED DARNELIST

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:54, curly said…

    dbbia / michael -

    got your mail and replied - thanks.

    TLW -

    Just remember not to be too cheerful this weekend, Ross County were relegated after last weeks defeat by Gretna. So don't mention how much you are looking forward to meeting Gretna in next years SPL!!

    On the menu, my offering would naturally be the Curly Burger - guaranteed you will never find a hair in it!!

    Curly

     
  • At 03/05/07 14:54, big liam said…

    Cristiano Ronaldo is nowhere near the best in the world.

    He's not even the best player in Manchester.

    Last night he was outplayed , outclassed and overpowered. Was glad to hear the Milanese roar and laugh when ronaldo got caught in possession. They know a pretender when they see one.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:03, ItaliaBhoy said…

    big liam,

    Did you notice the pass Ronaldo attempted after 20 SECS of play last night? An extravagant back-heel thingumy out to the wing?

    It went straight to a Milan player. The crowd were furious as it seemed to indicate a degree of disrespect to them and their team. The noise level went up, and for the next 20 minutes the rossoneri were encamped in United's half.

    I'm not sure if Ronaldo is the best player in Europe.

    But he certainly ain't the brightest.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:04, Paul67 said…

    Ternar, I know, we were told that Jock’s teams always attacked, but the shadow of Lisbon was long. Twice he took teams to Milan on European Cup business against Inter and Milan and kept clean sheets on both occasions.

    Jock’s team knew how and when to defend.

    BQ actually gets paid £30k p.a. and as you know, DD has put more money into Celtic than anyone in history. You would not believe the hassle I used to get for mentioning these facts.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:05, BlantyreKev said…

    This post has been removed by the author.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:07, BlantyreKev said…

    Eight(!) figure sum for Boruc (no decimal point), no less and I'm deadly serious. I also hope we get no bids at all.

    The press touted Petrov at £3m to £4m for long enough and we got £8m.

    Boruc has genuine world class potential. We know it and they know it. I reckon after the last few weeks you might find Swalex raises an interest.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:15, martinobhoy said…

    ternar - Apologies, it wont happen again. Forza Aiden!

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:18, ternar said…

    martinobhoy

    no need to apologise to me my friend. i respect your opinions.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:18, Gordon_J said…

    I hope Arthur stays as he is the best keeper we have had in a very long time.

    But if we do sell him I would be happy if we bought Craig Gordon for less thean we sell AB for, giving a profit to use elsewhere in the squad.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:22, antsman said…

    gordon j

    this is kinda my point when does it become best to sell eg would craig gordon and £4m be better than keeping artur.

    when will the board/strachan start thinking like this at what price. i think at £6m+. of course artur may turn down a move anyway

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:23, winningemmell said…

    I'd never mention Swalex and. Jock Stein in the same sentence.


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    Give me an S - S
    Give me anurra E - E
    Give Me an R - R

    what have you got ?



    TESER



    later amigos.




    WG

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:28, thismancraig said…

    Craig Gordon is it:

    As Hearts captain couldn't he have organised his players to applaud the champions onto the park last week? Or shake the hands of opposition players?

    Outstanding potential, questionable character.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:31, 31003 said…

    Re Jock Stein knew how to play.......I remember back in the late'60s early '70s when Evan Williams was keeping goal. A pass back by 1 of our defenders resulted in Evan picking the ball up. (Perfectly allowable in those days of course) Evan proceeded to hump the ball up field. Where it went or who it ended up with I don't know. I was too busy watching Big Jock race out of the dug out and run down to Evans goal to give him the mother of all shirikings. You see, Big Jock did not believe in humping the ball, he wanted his goalie to throw it, (preferrebly underarm) to the nearest available player, and to then start passing the ball up to and in to the oppositions goal. His philosophy, If we pass rather than hump it is less likely that the oppostion can win which is inevitably a 50-50 ball.
    Happy Days

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:41, Kano said…

    Evening Paul,fellow tims

    Man,I missed all the handbags.

    Drat,that is usually where I excel.


    Neg,are you STILL gonnae demand a lead article?

    BlantyreKev,your psychology post at the end of the last thread was genius.

    Schoolteacher(Niallx?)you are trying to protect someone with a hide made of steel,from some perceived insult he may have received,when,if it came from any other poster on the blog,would have been followed by a quick bolding,and a putting down of an order which would have made even your children blush(if they had the nonse to understand the put down).

    Please,there has been far more important reasons to interject on this blog,if you had been a "long time lurker".

    P8ddy has survived a large barny with me,and come out the other side smiling.

    Paul is a mere pussy.

    To all the "happy clappers" and "mineshafters",let me say one thing.

    We have all been in either camp,at least six different times a season.

    We are only one or the other,when we disagree with each other's point of view.

    Neganon,you have been coming on here since basically the same time as me.

    Now I am not saying I make the most enlightened posts known to man,but your transfer spending mantra has become,in the first instance,tiresome,and in the second instance,contradictary,you say on one hand if we don't spend,a certain amount of money,then we are fooling the supporters,but on the other hand,you do not want us to waste it.

    Tell me any job in the world,where you can marry both concepts,and keep everyone happy.

    You are obviously operating at a level where what you post here would surely be seen as at best,contradicting yourself,and at worst,repetitive gibberish.

    Don't get me wrong,I agree with a lot of your thoughts,and I have given you back up more times than I care to remember,but your "jam" nonsense would have made me(if I were Paul)put up the Leeds article,with a personal reference to you at the end.

    Nae offence,just the way I think.

    Shelbourne,you are doing the same thing,criticising Paul,for doing the same thing as you do in your own post.Criticise what he might write(as I believe you do yourself),but having a go at why he does this blog is a wee bit low.

    NeilR,I am going to say something I find quite hard.

    But I actually agree with most of what you have said in the last thread or so.

    There, I said it.

    Whoever it was(Neganon,I think,apologies if wrong),that said there was numerous studies that proved releasing pent up energies at football matches was a good thing.

    There has also been numerous studies that have stated that wife beating and depression rises dramatically,dependant on match results and trophy presentations.

    This does not make your argument any more reasonable.

    In fact it makes it seem quite futile.

    And let me repeat from earlier.

    Isn't it good to see the "fallen Milan team",where it was supposedly the best time for us to meet them,(at the time I suggested the best time to meet them would be in a bar)seem to have the suddenly refound ability to beat the"best team in Europe by far"(copyright,any English publication)where players are "unleashed",not picked,and where players will "wreak havoc" instead of trying to win the ball.

    I called that the final would be between Milan and Liverpool before the quarter finals.

    I will put myself further out on a limb.

    AC Milan will go 3 up against Liverpool again,but this time,they will remain so.

    Once again proving that they are the finest team in Europe in modern times.

    And that wee ginger loudmouth,managed to give them the hardest test that they received in this years's competition.

    Happy clapper?

    Me?

    Damn right.

    One cup down,one to go.

    And we WILL beat Rangers on Saturday.

    Time to rub their noses in it.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:45, Kano said…

    TMC,

    can you imagine Neil Lennon organising a "clapout" for some team coming to Parkhead as Champions?

    Don't see that trait as a problem.

    Good losers is NOT what what we want.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:46, 31003 said…

    After that big long long post, most of you will be happy to hear that this particular post is quite short

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:47, 31003 said…

    This one is even shorter

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:47, 31003 said…

    Shorter again

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:48, 31003 said…

    Short

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:48, 31003 said…

    .

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:49, thismancraig said…

    Kano

    Celtic Park is our stadium, last Sunday was our first game there since winning the league. There is precedent and 9 of the other 11 teams in the league would have applauded us onto the park. I don't expect there ever to be a time when an Old Firm team would be allowed to clap the other onto the park.

    A small matter but from watching him closely in a Hearts jersey, I have no desire to see him in a Celtic one (neither does he have any desire to play for us or Rangers judging by his comments).

    Strangely, he seems a completely different character in a Scotland strip - and a better goalkeeper.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:52, bambi said…

    Kano,

    Spot on with that post mate apart from the Liverpool v Milan result. I too had them both to be finalists and got 6-1 before the semis started. I do think Milan will win but not by 3 goals, it will be tighter this time.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:53, Tobi said…

    Craig Gordon, fine keeper, known to come forward at corners occasionally against one team in particular.
    The gap between Inter and AC Milan stands at 28 points.

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:54, curly said…

    31003 -

    You and me must be about the only ones that Kano doesn't want to talk to.

    Away in a sulk

    Curly

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:57, McGraininSpain said…

    Kano - aye, like you know what you're talking about in your golf club in Wagawaga or wherever you are.

    McGrainin...ahh

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:57, 31003 said…

    If Steven Gerrard is fit to play then I could not call the result. Two great teams with some great individuals. If for some reason Steven Gerrard could not play I'd take Milan to win by at least two goals. Milan could win without any 1 of their star players, Liverpool could not win without Gerrard

     
  • At 03/05/07 15:59, TerryO'Neill said…

    Couldn't agree more Paul,Gordon Srachan knows his stuff.

    On paper AC Milan have one forward but when they attack they swarm forward from the midfield and work like trojans when they lose possession.

    That formation shows that you dont need wingers/wide men,but what you do need is players that are happy to interchange roles and positions and your fullbacks need to be exceptional.

    Fergie got done tactically,Ancellotti was right Man Utd are predictable at that level.

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:04, Kano said…

    TMC,I will go along with your pedantics about the stadium.

    Myself I have always referred to our stadium as being Parkhead,maybe it is a Glasgow thing.

    "Firhill for thrills" was always Maryhill,and "Ibrox" was always Govan.

    I apologise if this offended you.

    Well I don't really,but it sounds good.

    And i disagree with your assertion that nine of the other eleven teams would have done so.

    I have only witnessed this three times myself(I will stand corrected if i am wrong)but the first time I ever seen this happen was the centenary year(with Dunfermline,as it happens)and I can only recall it happening twice since then.

    Now it may well be the case that the opportunity never arised,again i will stand corrected.

    But how you can say we should not sign someone because he showed a fighting spirit,or dislike for someone he was playing against,is beyond me.

    It is precisely the quality we should be looking for.

    As I said,by your sort of reckoning,Neil Lennon should never have played for Celtic.Purely because he hated losing.

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:12, Patrick said…

    Watchow

    Blatter has come out and said he has no doubts about SA as a World Cup venue. Given the politics (Africa has more voting members than, say, South America), I can't see it not happening here.

    The real concern is the construction of unnecessary stadia, when the upgrading of existing rugby stadia would suffice. Apart from Kaizer Chiefs, Orlando Pirates and Bloemfontein Celtic, none of the other clubs has substantial support, so the economics of all the extra stadia is wonky.

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:17, Kano said…

    Curly,I will talk to you

    Hello.

    See. There.

    I have an issue talking to numbers but.


    Tobi,I am sure Inter,would be more than happy to swap.

    In fact I think they would be happy to swap,and fail to qualify for the tournament next year,which,incidentally,Milan have been succesful at,without having to win the thing,despite their points deductions(which I may remind you had nothing to do with their coaching staff or players).

    Bambi,

    I just get the feeling that 3-0 has a poetic ring to it.

    And I also think that Milan,despite their failure to score against a rubbish Celtic team in 180 minutes,just have too much attacking nonse for Liverpool.

    McGraininSpain,of course you know the deal.

    We ain't there,we can't comment.

    Sad.

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:22, 31003 said…

    Kano.......are you a numberist?
    Is there a problem with my name?
    My mother didn't think so
    Do you only ignore whole numbers?
    I see you talk to part name/part numbers ie Paul67
    Is it just my particular number that offends you?
    Would you talk to a 5621 for example.
    I'll have you know I am not a number....and...if you hold a mirror up against my number you might just see my actual name.

    Cheers for nothing. Its true what some say......Clique? not me

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:25, Plato said…

    31003

    You are not a number.

    You are a free man

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:25, BlantyreKev said…

    Kano, many would argue that your long post of 15.41 should certainly not have been any longer, but I would argue that it was short of a 'cat' at a pretty crucial juncture!

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:26, thismancraig said…

    Kano

    I wasn't being cheeky and correcting you on Celtic Park. Waaaay too many people call it Parkhead for me to launch a one man campaign to call it Celtic Park. Always remember though being an impressionable young teenager when Fergus corrected Radio Clyde / Scotland with 'First of all Parkhead is an area of Glasgow, I'm at Celtic Park'.

    I dislike Craig Gordon and will pick up on any reason to get at him, before of course morphing into his biggest fan (like the happy clapper I am) if we sign him. Hence the caveat that he looks outstanding for Scotland...

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:28, Kano said…

    Okay EoolE,

    no offence,but you have a funny name.

    BlantyreKev,I thought I mentioned a cat.

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:30, 31003 said…

    Kano.....all capitals young man...all capitals.....but you are forgiven.....now that will be 1 our father
    3 hail marys
    and a full rosary please

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:31, 31003 said…

    Oh.....and by the way......your name is definetly not funny

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:31, 31003 said…

    Plato




    I thank you

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:34, Kano said…

    TMC,

    caveats are great things.

    Used to have a couple of tootal ones myself,wee burgundy numbers.

    When I wore them,people used to say "Where is your monacle?"

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:35, Kano said…

    EoolE,

    It isn't supposed to be,it is the mane I have gone by for the best part of 35 years.

    You can pick your friends,and all that....

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:36, 31003 said…

    Kano....you starting again?
    My numbers a problem but burgundy numbers aren't?

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:37, 31003 said…

    Kano....if you call me by my correct name....31003....I'll always call you by your correct name

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:37, Kano said…

    I'm just having the best bowl of Pea and ham soup you could imagine.

    Do you still get Pea and Ham soup from a chicken in Scotland?

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:39, Kano said…

    31003,

    och okay then,sorry.

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:43, 31003 said…

    Kano...forgiven again...and as it was a small misdemeanor 1 glory be will suffice

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:43, chennaiseabird said…

    Paul

    "You would not believe the hassle I used to get for mentioning these facts."

    There you go again, defending the poor old board. No wonder you get hassle.

    Wait a minute. This board needs defended?

    What do their predecessors need that doesn't begin with a good whipping? Fergus and co. the honourable (spelled hon'bl in India) exceptions.

    BlantyreKev, loved your beerglass post. Particularly timely for someone who has spent the last 30 months away from the cradle of humanity and needs to make some decisions soon. Well, one, really.

    Prawn sandwiches? Once you've experienced the Bay of Bengal jumbo prawns in butter parotta at Fisherman's Cove, south of Chennai, anything else is as classy as a hauf V and a packet of Tayto at dinner time fae Ken's.

    There might be some ex St Pat's fellows out there who know what I'm talking about. What do you mean, St. Pat's where?

    31003, I admire your attempts to introduce some absurdist touches to the blog. It's not as if there's much of it about otherwise :)

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:45, McGraininSpain said…

    kano - the mane you have gone by for 35 years? You lion tae us

    I'll get me (smokin') jaiket

    mcgraneinspane

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:48, Kano said…

    McGrain,there used to be a lion called Onak,so I am lead to believe.

    You won't be needing your jaikit for a while,Spring should be kicking in,should it not?

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:49, Kano said…

    Chennai,I demand to be known as an absurdist too!!!

    What is this? favouritism?

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:53, Kano said…

    Can everybody stop knocking prawns?

    They are excellent.

    Wee bit of butter and lashings of Garlic or chilli.Some rice and 12 beers.

    Cannae beat them

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:54, chennaiseabird said…

    Kano

    Don't be absurd! You're too sensible.

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:57, McGraininSpain said…

    Nako - as you well know life is one big springtime for those of us flogclubs in the conolies (republican imperialists?)

    ach enough of this ship - to the centro social me voy

     
  • At 03/05/07 16:57, chennaiseabird said…

    Kano

    Hauf v ana packet o' Tayto, some rice and 12 beers.

    In fact, scrub the rice.

    Cannae beat them.

    AbsurdistCSC

     
  • At 03/05/07 17:02, Kano said…

    McGrain,I have the gift of seeing the future(I am seven hours ahead).

    I have been to said establishment,and i foretell posts of gibberish in roughly five hours.

    Enjoy.

    I already have.

    Don't ever underestimate someone from the future!!

     
  • At 03/05/07 17:03, 31003 said…

    I've sa