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Lukasz Fabianski from Legia Warsaw was sold to Arsenal yesterday. He signed four years long contract. First year for understudy, in a second season he will be No.1.Seems to be too late for Celtic.
I don’t say 0:5 is possible today. I go back to the real world, 0:2 is enough.
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come on ye hoops
hail hail
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Podium!?
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any team news?
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zbyszek - so Artur isn't going to Arsenal this summer after all?! I'm glad as I'm hoping he's going to be part of another CHAMPION season.
Didn't you say before that Fabianski was a better prospect than AB?
Paul - hope you have a weekend of non-stop celebration and don't even notice that you've become an auld haun!
A few Tims I've spoken to are worried about today as we've clearly switched off after Meelan. I'm praying for a Carlsberg OF game with a Lenny 'toe-poke' flying into their net in injury time. That would be priceless!
Finally, I hope the song book is upbeat and aimed at winding them up rather than anything that will give the laptop loyal ammunition against us. I couldn't envisage it being swept under the carpet like their last visit to CP.
Good luck to Lenny and everyone who's lucky enough to have a ticket.
Remind them who the CHAMPION are.
TTTTmildlyhungoverCSC
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Yes, there's a bit of good in that information. I think Arsenal was very clever with that. Why pay a lot of money for Boruc when they have young perspective goalkeeper and one year reserve in Lehman? Fabianski is very similar to Boruc. I mean his personality. Okey, meybe not as crazy as Artur is. IMO could be very good successor.
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Zbyszek
How much did Arsenal pay? I can remember Fabianski being really good in the friendly against us and Man Utd were interested. Really hope we don't lose Boruc now because that's one potential replacement gone.
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malone
Not sure, but Polish media say about 3 million Euro. Everything is shrouded in mystery. Arsenal asked to keep a discreet silence. Fabianski has to go back for medical tests to London. That's the only question mark. They will say more when everything will be binded.
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A lovely day for hun gubbing
Hail Hail
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Zbyszek,
Sad news about the young pretender Fabianski - from the videos that you posted he will be an excellent Keeper.
Unfortunately, I think the Big Yin will go in the summer (I hope not, but money talks..) and we'll be left looking at Gordon...makes me shudder. Someone posted a couple of days ago that a good keeper doesn't win games, but stops losing games.....
Are Hearts winning the league, nope, are they in Europe, nope....that could be our fate with an average keeper like Gordon or Marshall..
Still on with the day - winning goal by Lenny ( a 2 inch piledriver will do - tap over the line).......
getting up at 630 to watch a game....never get used to it
Hail Hail all
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Sunny day should keep the forces of darkness at bay. Anybody got team news yet?
Work is a pain.
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Boruc, Caldwell Pressley McManus Naylor,
Naka Gravesen Hartley Lennon McGeady,
JVoH
4-5-1?
Come on the Bhoys!
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Yet another interesting one from WGS. Glad Gravesen is getting a go to do his run about mad thing.
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Exactly the team I expected and formation I expected. It's up to the midfield to dominate the game today.
I'm surprised at the criticism of Craig Gordon. He has put in some outstanding performances playing for a poor team, or two poor teams if you count Scotland. I think he would become an even better keeper with us.
But my first choice is of course AB to stay,
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Oh cesspit in the sun
Celtic 1, huns got none
The Fod’s all done
and we have won.
An’ know what’s funny
we got more money
yes, they’re in a plight
and just not s’ite
I know it’s pretty bad poetry, but I’m getting thon jittery way again.
Hail Hail
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one last cigar for Lenny
Championees
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C'mon Bhoys - lets put the forces of darkness in their place!!
2 nil to the hoops today with JVOH to get his first 2 goals against them.
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Good morning all. CHAMPION Day for a hun gubbing....
Please Graveson is in but looks like a packed midfield. Wonder who will be tasked with helping out JVoH up front - maybe the onus will be on Hartley
I'll settle for 3-2 today.
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Lot's of Japanese headbands in the crowd today :)
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Come on the Hoops
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Lenny lookng relaxed - go on my son
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Celtic to kick off - game on ....
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mon the bhoys!
stuck to radio today
lets boss this 1
Hail hail!
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anyone getting footage on c67?
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TG looking psyched up - no surprise there :)
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TG looking psyched up - no surprise there :)
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morning campers.
Pasty - I'm finally getting games on Ch67 again but lots of buffering today.
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I'm just getting audio at the moment. It seems to take the site ages to update with the team news. Very frustrating
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1st good spell from us results in a FK - long way out but Naka will have a go from there
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Free Kick in Naka territory......comes to nothing.
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Beatts - check the video help link on the web-site and make sure all your media player settings are correct
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Why does the commentator always call McGeady "The Glasgow-born Irishman"? Is Richard Gough "The Stockholm-born Scotsman" every time he is mentioned?
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Artur has made a couple of solid catches so far
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We're giving the ball away far too much. Caldwell needs to settle down
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Poor game so far, very ragged. We need to get Aiden on the ball more.
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The tactic seems to be to punt high ball up front for JVoH to win against 3 defenders
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Pasty - keep rebooting ch67.
MN still buffering but not as bad. thanks
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Good block by Caldwell at edge of box. We need to get Naka and Aiden nore involved
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Shot from TG blocked at edge of box - our first effort on goal
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Kris Boyd scores breaking his hoodoo
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0-1 Boyd.
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Foul on Aidne not given, high ball forward and Boyd scores with a miskick.
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First time posting.
And Boyd just scored.
Am I bad luck?
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Naylor was casually walking out on the far side and played him on
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1 nil to the huns. Boyd.
Looked like Boruc should have saved a fairly tame volley.
We have no shape or urgency this afternoon.
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maybe I don't want c67 now
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yellow card for caldwell. Why Pressley and not O'Dea. I just don't understand it
Is Pressley still going to be here next year?
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Novo shot just over - roll on HT - this is poor
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Poor first half from us. No creativity in midfield and not a single goal threat.
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can't say i'm surprised
bearing in mind that this is team 2
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hail hail
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I might be paranoid, but watch as boyd runs to McCoist to celebrate the goal, is the SFA 4th official clapping the goal? see if anyone else can spot it
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Half Time. 1 nil to the huns. This is very much like the 2nd half of the last game against them at Parkhead in March. They are dreadful but we are worse. A really poor display from Celtic. Our midfield is missing and JVOH has not had any service. Things can only get better in the 2nd half.
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Disgraceful display - the only consolation is that it can't get worse.
If anybody can explain our tactics to me, I would be interested.
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We are missing hartley,Naka and Aiden...oh they are playing!
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I barely recognise Celtic these days. What a pitiful excuse that was out there for 45 mins.
One striker, who hasn't touched the ball. Five midfielders who have done the square root of hee haw.
And an attitude bordering on the criminally arrogant.
Absolute rubbish.
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HT them 1-0 Celtic
Not sure what our game plan is out there - we have nothing up front. JVoH must wonder what the heck he is supposed to do up there, battling against 3 defenders with no support. The midfield is too congested and our game is getting bogged down in there. With 1 man up front, we need to get the ball wide.The only player who is getting balls into the box is Naylor and it is usually fron the half way line. Please change something Gordon
Boruc - Looked solid - not much chance with the goal
Caldwell - Poor
Pressley - Poor
McManus - Steady game
Naylor - Getting a lot of work in. Will need to look at himself for the goal as he played Boyd on
Hartley - Poor
Graveson - Lot's of aggression but not a lot of quality
Lennon - Solid
Aiden - Looks good when on the ball but he is struggling to find space
Naka - started brightly but fell out of it
JVoH - Thankless task up front
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Erm...
I'm at a loss as to what we could change as nothing is getting to our front men/man. Midfield losing the ball and our defence getting jittery as 2 or 3 gers bomb on to attack.
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Play fitba Celtic - show some passion and pride in the shirt you are wearing.
Get inta them!
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Tactics are mystifying.
Where are our strikers?
What exactly is JVoH supposed to do? He's not ven getting long balls played up to him?
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Woeful first half. Hard to see how gordon is going to turn this around.No confidence in the team at all, and huns are winning personal battles all over the park.
Caldwell never a right back, and up front JVOH is no Chris Sutton.Midfield being completely dominated.
Just hope gordon has something up his sleeve.
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zero efforts at goal and a yard of the pace.
No excuses today.
Hibs scored 3 against this bunch last week.unbelieveable
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pressley stepped up to play offside without looking at the man to his left 10 yards behind him, criminal
hartley poor again
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Kenny Miller coming on for Gravesen
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They are more up for the game than us for sure. They are dominating midfield but have no quality when moving forward - hence they only have the 1 goal.
I would get Caldwell and Hartley off. Get Riordan up front. If Doumbe is on the bench, get him on as well - if not, leave Hartley on but play him RB. 4-4-2
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Miller on for Gravesen.
Let`s hope we get a better second half. Come on Celts!
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Fck - Graveson off. Why has WGS got so much faith in Hartley?
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At least we now have 2 up front
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Naka misses a sitter - played in by JVoH - Better
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Good chance from the corner for Mick but mis-timed his header
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Naka has a shot off the line and McManus heads a clear chance wide from the resulting corner. Best pece of play we've had all day. They're there for the taking - the huns have all gone quiet.
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If Miller had follwed in the Naka chance like a striker should he would have had a tap in.
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Spoke too soon - huns go 2-0 up after from a jammy free kick.
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2-0 Rangers with the BBC website showing 62% possession for Celtic.
What's going on?
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0-2 ffs
Harltley gave a way a stupid free kick in the first place.
The FK was hit along the ground and went stright through the wall.
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Free kick rolled in under the jumping wall.
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Seeeeebo! That's the Rangers scoring finished.
Mon the hoops... get Riordan on.
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hartley is murder, why is grav the fall guy again!! he was no worse than hartley. naka been poor not chasing back. here comes sebo, smith wants to really rub it in with a boyd and sebo double
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Could we be looking at an SPL landslide... with Celtic taking the title by a huge margin of 3 points?
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Complete comic book football
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Good save from Artur. This is the worst Celtic performance I have seen in a long time. Absolute p*sh.
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spineless performance and undoubtedly the worst in the recent poor run.
We're getting tanked and making next seasons champions elect look like world beaters. No leaders on the park and too many players have accepted defeat meekly.
I'm gutted.
Which team is it that needs the major clear out?
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Doumbe coming on for Caldwell. Hopefully he can give us some more width down the right wing.
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Caldwell off - Doumbe on
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Embarresing so far. We are making a poor side look useful. No cohesion, no fight and totaly outplayed.
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KM is at least giving them something to think about up front
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JVoH got a bad head wound
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Shot from Lennon blocked for a corner ...
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comes to nothing. Deeks coming on for Aiden.
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Seeebo Seeebo!
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embarrasment today, pressley is shocking sebo running him ragged. no creativity or drive in midfield, hartley deeper than lennon again.rangers midfield has completely dominated
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Sebo strolls past Pressley like he wasn't there - should have scored.
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At 10:40 Zbyszek said...
I don’t say 0:5 is possible today. I go back to the real world, 0:2 is enough.
Zbyszek, I presume you meant Celtic 0:2 Rangers? It looks like you called it right then!
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Naylor booked for lying on the ground and letting Hutton charge into him. Lennon booked for petulance. Roll on FT.
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Hutton goes in over the ball on Lee Naylor and gets booked. Naylor gets booked for letting Hutton kick him and Lennon gets booked for having a few words with the in-bred hun. Seems only fair that we should get two yellow cards when a hun commits a foul against us!!
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Miller booked
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2 - 0 down and we've been dreadful all day.
yet our fans are still outsinging the scum. Well done to the bhOys off the park.
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We have handed the momentum to Rangers since Smith took over.
It has been an insipid uninspiring 4 months.
Todays performance was dire.
To be out played and out fought by Rangers today sums up our ineptitude.
The players attitude is disgraceful and is undeserving of the support given.
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I will ask again
£5m for Naka...
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Thank god that's over. No pace down the wings against two of the worst full backs in the league. They have two centre backs whose only ability is to head the ball - so what do we do? Play high balls!!
No penetration from our midfield and we lost two easily preventable goals.
We are our own worst enemy at making them look good. The only thing that makes me happy is that we have the financial ability to improve and that the huns will have a massive sense of over confidence going into next season.
We need to get some momentun up in the last two games before the Cup final.
The best performance in the hoops today was from the 7500 in the Broomloan Road.
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Well at least it should give a perfect indication of what Strachan needs to do over the summer. Better now than next year when it really counts.
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Well beaten.
Too many lightweights in the team now.
Referee turned into a court jester at the end booking for Celts for hee haw.
Exactly what rangers have won in the last two seasons!
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FBT,
Gordon Smith said that Lennon could have seen red. He also said that there was a `scary gulf` between the teams.
The commentry from David Begg was scandalous. BBC Radio Rangers. None of them, Murdo included mentioned Hutton for a red card.
Och I`m fed up! :-(
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still shocking even although it was expected
strachan has brought in inferior players
who were shown up, again today
hartley - is never a celtic player
gravessen - you just seen his last game in hoops
caldwell - at fault for both goals
pressley - woeful
neil lennon has made the right decision
mcgeady has to work on his game
naka was awful and should have scored
mcmanus was terrible
etc etc etc
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Poor performance, poor passing, all the cojones left when Gravvy went off.
Hate to say we were outplayed and didn't look like making any headway.
I now have (for the first time this season), a real fear for our only big game left - the cup final.......
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To everyone who posts aghast when someone on this board dares to criticise Strachan- it's performances like today that make you wonder if he has a clue what he is doing.
Tactics: abysmal. One striker completely marked out of the game, and when we bring on another it's Kenny Miller, who is rubbish.
Motivation: Non-existant. Embarassing seeing us roll over so easily.
Quality: Alarmingly threadbare. Embarassing to see such bad, bad players in the Hoops. Pressley, Miller, Caldwell, Hartley- all absolutely gash today.
All in all, a pitiful performance. I could take it if this was a "foot-off-the-gas" moment, like when we beat them 3-0 at Hampden, but the alarming fact is that what we saw today was a pretty standard Celtic performance under Strachan, bereft of guile or creativity, slower than a week in the jail, and with a sworrying big-time charlie attitude running through the team.
We are chapions, probable double winners, and this has been a really poor poor season watching Celtic.
Go figure.
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FT 0-2
The ONE positive thing from today is that Rankers might feel they have enough with the players they have now to pose a challenge next year.
From our POV I can't see where the performance necessary to win the Cup is going to come from. These players look dead on their feet.
Pressley needs to find a new club. Hartley - you lived the dream but it didn't work out. Caldwell, make the CH position yours or resign yourself to a career on the bench. Naka needs to step up in these games - I can't recall him having a good game against these. Wilson, you need to get yourself fit and stay fit next season.
The team have had a productive season but the only ones who can feel certain of a start next season are Boruc, Mick, Naylor, Naka and JVoH.
That was a rank rotten performance from the Champions. Why are we not playing with flair and confidence with the title already won?
What a crap start to the weekend.
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Absolutely shocking today.
5 mins to go and Hutton committs a bad foul on Naylor, for which he should have been sent off. Celtic players suddenly find enough passion to start pushing and shoving like wee boys on a playground. If they'd shown half as much in the previous 85 mins then we wouldnt have been 2 down.
Too many players look as if their time at celtic has come and gone Miller, McGeady and a few whose time should never have come like Hartley.
Venegoor's form of late has left a huge question mark over him and another annonymous show from Naka.
Let me be the first to answer Smell the Gloves question.
5 million for Naka, I'd bit yer hand off.
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Been listening to the game on radio Scotland, this guy Begg is easily the most biased commentator i have ever heard,and that's saying something!
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The worst performance yet against the scum, those celtic players should hang their heads in shame. The performance was very indicitive of how we have been playing over the last 5 weeks and WGS doesnt see what everyone else can, that this team is in need of at leaset five players that have an offensive nature. Players i would like to see go.
Hartley
Caldwell
Miller
JVOH(hasnt got it for me)
Beattie
Presley(we have enough young cover)
Lennon(obviously)
Riordan
Players in.
1 Right back
2 Offensive Midfielders
2 Quality forwards
We have a big enough squad to cope with all other positions, but need to play players in their correct positions.
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Shocking tactics. Shocking display. Uttery deplorable perfomance all round, players, manager, everyone but the fans - MAGNIFICENT AS ALWAYS.
Seriously, defending Strachan's team selection is now defending the indefensible. He has us playing like a latter day Southampton in green and white hoops.
I've said it before on these forums, after a bad result, and some thought I was scaremongering. I'll say it now, again, after being run ragged, outclassed, by the worst Rangers team in living memory.
Bad days are ahead unless we change our style of play, unless Strachan grows out of this mentality which is not so much about WINNING as NOT LOSING.
The writing is on the wall, and if I might make a political analogy here, in the aftermath of yesterdays results, to rely on past glorious and previous results, to ignore present evidence and worrying signs of decay, is to invite disaster on an epic scale.
That team needs gutting, and if Strachan cannot see that we are in big, big trouble. Yet he talks about adding two or three players, and about not tinkering with the squad.
Further, he could not even see, with five minutes gone in the second half, that McGeady was not in the game and needed to go off. Riordan might have turned this, if given time, or at least added fresh impetus.
No-one can deny this stuff is unacceptable. I defended Strachan long and loud last season, when much of what I'm saying here was being said across the broad spectrum of the site. I am coming to believe our mentality is all wrong, and yes, I am worried.
Today was shocking, and if it were an isolated incident I would feel very differently, but it was part of a continuing pattern, and I think we are unwise to ignore that fact.
I am also worried about other goings on at Celtic Park, like the Youth side's downward spiral. When the restructuring took place after McDowell went to Rangers, something clearly went wrong. I wonder if we're now adopting the Strachan mentality across the boards?
God, I hope not.
We are NOT Southampton, or Coventry. We do NOT have to play with ONE STRIKER AT HOME ON THE DAY WE GET THE LEAGUE TROPHY.
I'm not kidding here, I see trouble ahead. The writing is on the wall. We better get this sorted out.
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so many shamelessly defended strachan for the gash we played saying we would see a difference when the league was one
we have - even worse
Hartley and pressley showed where they came form a hopeless hearts side never likely to get close to a title. naka was just terrible papac ran untracked so many times.
this is not a knee-jerk reaction by people but patience is wearing thin, against 2 old slow centrebacks we looked toothless.nkaka should of scored after jans lay off first time was the call.
Gravesen i feel for as he just doesn't get a chance its hard floating in and out at because hartley starts no matter what. thats not to say he played well.
Boruc was at fault for first goal but it was only after pressley stupidly stepped up and caldwell spectated.
as for second it was just a piece of quality simple as that
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BCHUK
I'm sorry. I'm not a prophet. Of course I meant a win for Celtic.
Very dissapointed today.It's a lack of ambition. Can't they play for the supporter? Sometimes it doesn't metter whether you win or loose, but fans always deserve respect.
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James Forrest 14.43
Excellent description of our present failings and I cannot disagree with any of it.Quite why Strachan has developed this `musn't lose' mentality is beyond me.
4-5-1 and two holding midfield players against average SPL sides. What is that all about??
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we as a support cannot accept any more performances like we saw today. its all well and good saying the league is already won.
some guys are paying good money to watch GS put out shocking teams with shocking tactics week in and week out.
the season ticket for next year is looking less value (as a customer) every passing week.
paul67.
as a SUPPORTER what we are seeing celtic become is simply not acceptable. as usual they have us supporters over a barrel because to them we are customers ready to pay up for any old drivel, that is what we are becoming. one up front again. wee man get a friggin grip.
the hibs and hearts rejects 11 is getting worse.
things better improve.
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On the radio the key phrase was `making a mark for next season` and it wasn`t our team who did that.
Quotes from Gordon Strachan
`1st half Testimonial football and
2nd half Catch up football`
`We are not proud of our performance today.`
`He has a nothing feeling because it wasn`t even a game today.`
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Testimonial football???
What in the HELL is he trying to say? That the players WERE NOT TRYING?? I need to ask WHO'S FAULT IS THAT?? What's he DONE about it?
Jesus! No halfway decent manager would put up with that for two seconds.
I tell you, those comments do not bring comfort or solace. They do not inspire or encourage in any way, shape or form.
If the present team don't want to wear the Hoops, why's he talking about retaining them for next season? Why not play the kids (the reserves, obviously, not the Under 19's) in the next game? Play boys who RESPECT THE SUPPORTERS, if not the manager.
Shocking comments. Utterly ridiculous.
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Ermmmm, I would love it, really love it if I could convince myself that what I just witnessed was a clever, cunning ploy to lull the opposition in to a false sense of security.
Let's start with a well worn premise that a Celtic shirt does not shrink to fit inferior players.
From where I was sitting it looked blatantly obvious that a good few in our team have no clue about what is expected of a Celtic player.
That was one of the most gutless, spineless performances I have ever seen.
We have assembled a squad of toothless lightweights.
I have never, ever booed or harranged a Celtic team or player, but right now I am sorely tempted to drive over to the Park a wait for that lot to return.
Right now I am filled with a mixture of disgust and embarrassment. That was a truely shameful performance, so much so I was almost in tears watching.
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at last i can breath....having big prob with google account not recognising my password.phew!
well that was utter mince
i'm on a downer and very worried, this has been going on for months and to be honest i have dreaded going to paradise most weeks.
the cup final is not so assured
and i have very big doubts about
GOD and WGS as our manager.this of course not a knee jerk reaction but its just not good enough from the champs
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End of season, meaningless and ultimately of no consequence. That's what I keep telling myself in recent weeks at each insipid performance.
Before that the rationalisation was that the league has been over for so long that players are getting stale through lack of meaningful competition.
We could always look at performacnes against Milan for comfort.
But is there a question that those of us who are more optimistic are afraid to ask?
Is Gordon Strachan the right coach for Celtic?
I choose my words very carefully here, as I believe he is a coach with great ability, but is he right for our club.
To answer that one must consider his track record, both prior to and since he came to Celtic.
He has undoubtadly brought success to Celtic with two league championships in a row and an unprecendented qualification from the CL group stages. Add to this very creditable performances against some serious European players.
Only the most rosy tinted spectacle wearing cock-eyed optimist can igore however that in achieving the above he has not carried a fair degree of good fortune.
Hearts imploded last year, there is no doubt about that, and until that point they had looked a solid bet to go a long way in the league.
Rangers imploded this year, but have shown that by bringing a modicum of organisation and aggression to their play they can quite easily throw us off our stride.
Who can honestly say that had they being playing with the same efficiency, and note I deliberately do not say they are a good team, that we would be sitting today as Champions.
A great run in the Champions league does not come about purely through luck, but again who can say that the three good hidings we got away from home may not just as easily have left us at the foot of our group had it not been for a magical free kick and a penalty save.
The games against Milan were great, the atmosphere and all that is good about the club came to the fore, and indeed many say that if it wasn't for a dodgy referee in milan it owuld have been a different story.
Not so I'm afraid, I think we all saw what real quality is capable of on Wedneday night in that same stadium ,and let's be honest even if we had got the penalty we should have does anyone seriously think that Milan had nothing left in the tank to step up several gears if they had to.
That brings me to the crux of my point.
As he did countless times in England, GS is a master of setting out a team to frustrate and sometime sneak a surprise result against the bigger boys, and my concern is that is that Celtic should , indeed must, be about so much more than that.
When one looked into the eyes of Celtic players under MON you saw a steely determination, a will to win. You sensed a belief in the Hartsons, Suttons, Lennons, Larrsons that no mater who they played they fancied their chances.
I don't see that in the present lot, and never really have and thats the heart of the matter.. we are a teeam who can sometimes rise to the occasion when the odds are against us, but we are not born winers
I'm not really one for making comparisons especially between our two most recent managers, mainly because the circumstances and the resources within which they operated were entirely different. But I do insist that the club looks to the future, and the board has a serious question to ask.
Are we going to be winners, or plucky competitors, and in asking this they must look into the eyes and heart of Gordon Strachan and if they do not see that same uncomprimising determination not just to make our team spririted, but to make it dominant then they must make a change.
I hope I'm wrong on this one, but when I look at Celtic now I see a team on a par with Everton. Not so long ago I saw a team that was the equal of and indeed the better of a Liverpool.
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James Forrest
You were obviously posting your comments as I was typing mine.
You make the point i wanted to make much more forcefully and articulately.
Thanks
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GM:
Absolutely agree with you. I was equally embarrased and disgusted. This was not a Celtic team today but a bunch of spineless loons who somehow won a "Be A Footballer For A Weekend" contest.
There is a lot of nonsense being talked here and on other forums about the Celtic support not accepting Strachan because he is not "one of us."
It's garbage, unless you view those words in their context.
Most of us believe in playing sexy football. On that front, Strachan is definitely NOT "one of us."
