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Second?
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Shoorly not... first!
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danny
Here is the answer on your question from the previous article.
You're not too harsh. Zurawski is my bigest dissapointment of the previous season.
I'm sure he understands he's walking on the thin ice. Our last NT games shown that he's not unquestionable star. If he fails for Celtic he will be finished for Don Leo Benhakker.
One week ago I read that he's going nowhere and wants to recover from all the problems. He also said that nobody suggested in Celtic that he should look for another club.
Maciej explained why he did not play in London. He got an unserious injury in Swiss.
"Now everything is Okay, I fly to USA. I know how important are these friendly games for me. Gordon Strachan suggested that he counts on me. Still I can be a player of the first IX. I'm very, very mustered".
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I think a league involving the top two in Scotland, Portugal, Belgium and the Netherlands would work well.
If the SPL and the other leagues agree they can slim down their domestic leagues to two rounds of 11 games, we could still play domestic league games every other week, with a total of 36 games a season (14 in the regional league, 22 domestic).
Could even fit in a second division of the regional league.
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bit of a switch Paul I was still digging on your last article. Still that can simmer and stew.
Reading your article, don't you think that UEFA might get there noses out of joint.
Don't get me wrong, I really do think that the power of commerce will one day dictate regionalised european leagues and I for one look forward to the day.
Just think this patch belongs to UEFA.
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maybe when we join an atlantic league we might see a wow signing .
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zbyszek
Thanks for the reply. Zurawski is saying the right things I suppose. I wonder if any team will come in for him.
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Multi national leagues are an inevitability. Football has always been played between clubs who found it convenient to travel. Queens Park refused to play the then Ayr club in the late 1860s on the grounds of distance and cost. We moved to inter city leagues (basically Edinburgh and Glasgow clubs) then national leagues by the end of that century.
Now that it is easier and probably cheaper for me to see Celtic away to Ajax rather than Aberdeen (no car and would not use a coach in a fit), then the last stumbling block is gone.
I would have thought a 14 team domestic division giving 26 matches can coexist with and feed a pan-national division of say 12 clubs providing 22 games. That's 48 league games and entry into a knock out part of the Champions' League and UEFA Cup, so a successful team might play 60 matches in a season.
Make it so UEFA.
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I'd quite like to see Rangers join a Balkan league !
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We can only hope that moves for a European league system come about. I'm sure there are a million different ways it could be structured and a lot of negotiation would be required between the associations of the various countries.
And that's where we might have a problem.
If we agree that the "big" European leagues would not be involved, that takes out Spain, Italy, England France and Germany. Now if we are to look at an Atlantic League, as was previously talked about, we could be looking at Holland, Portugal, Belgium etc.
Now what if Scotland was only offered one place in the league. Would Mr Smith and the SFA agree to such an arrangement??
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Gordon_J
What if it were by invitation only would we give a monkeys about Walter and his affiliated associates.
Think, you'd never have to swallow that OF tag ever again.
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Gordon_J
Without a shadow of a doubt if it were to stop 10 in a row....
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Just a thought,
Do Carlsberg sponsor crooks?....
No didn't think so.
Wonder what would be said if Carling were asked the same question?
Just a thought.
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Me & a few mates were talking recently about the amount of big European clubs who like ourselves are financially up against & enjoy sporadic success or have simply dissappeared off the radar altogether:
Steau Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, St Etienne, IFK Gothenberg, Malmo, Sparta Prague, Vodjividina, Fernecvaros, Benfica, Ajax, Feyenoord, Moscow Dynamo, Dynamo Kiev & many more
I can't understand why these clubs can't get together to seriously make a proposal to UEFA. The other puzzle for me is that FIFA/UEFA know there is an imbalance in European competition & are aware that all these clubs with a previous pedigree in the game are being left to rot.
Bring back the Underdog!
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If this 'Atlantic League' coexisted alongside the current Champions League its games would be little more than glorified friendlies.
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VargasShampoo
Come on own up you deliberately left them off your list didn't you/
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The Nordic countries (Denmark, Sweden, Norway) already have a winter league - the Royal League - that is the first supra-national club competition officially licensed by UEFA. Enlargement is being considered (Finland, Iceland). So a precedent has been set.
PSV Eindhoven, who first put forward the idea of an Atlantic League, are pressing for regionalisation of the Champions League, as a forerunner of some kind of Euro league. Apparently they keep in touch with Celtic and Fraudsters FC on this issue.
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Some titbits from today's Metro :
Headlice - Darcheville Up For Battle As Gers Lose In Germany
Pic - Friendly fire: Yankov and Darchevile are separated by referee Florian Meyer last night.
Excerpt from match report by Bryan Young :-
Jean-Claude Darcheville came close to seeing red in a furious bust-up at the AMD Arena last night. The former Bordeux attacked reacted angrily after he was hauled down by Hannover midfielder Chavdar Yankov. Rangers' new boy pushed the Bulgarian with both hands in front of referee Florian Meyer. However both players escaped with a yellow card.
Jim Jeffries on 'Naisy' : " I've resigned myself to the fact Stevie is going.....If Rangers do agree on a fee i think he would go there. "
World Cup Ghost Haunts JJB Sports
The 2006 World Cup is proving as much of a painful memory for sports retailer JJB Sports as for England football fans, a year after it finished. Although the tournament boosted the company's total revenue last year, it meant figures for the 24 weeks to July 15 this year fell 3.9 per cent. Like-for-like revenues were also down 4.1 per cent but translated into a modest 1.4 per cent increase when World Cup replica products were excluided. Income from other products and its health clubs and soccer centres was up 20.8 per cent.
Most papers including damn-them-with-faint-praise Darnyll Narrowhand are carrying Scott Brown related but the Metro goes with Kenny Miller
" Until I'm told I've got to go somewhere, I'm happy to be here. Hopefully I can fight my way into the team because this year we have a fantastic squad. If you score goals you stay in the team. we have a lot of forwards but everybody has a clean slate at the start of the season. "
One from Naka on the Asian Cup semi v Australia " It will be crucial to stop Viduka. this match is the real final. "
One from Big Bad John on Big Unbad Craig Beattie : " Craig was unfortunate at Celtic as he wasn't able to string a run of games together. The opportunity is here for him. He plays on people's shoulders, he's got fantastic pace and he's a goalscorer. He still needs to work on some parts of his game but he'll improve. He is good at getting in behind defenders and scoring and I told him that this (WBA) is a smashing club that he'll enjoy working for. "
There are some good photos of the labrador that ran in front of the Tour De France cyclist Marcus Burghardt. I wonder what he said as he went asprawling.
WoofwoofGemmell
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Danny you hit the nail right on the head there.
I can't get excited about the idea, but something has to be done to break the monotony of the spl. Domestic football in this country is dying on it's backside.
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Am I the only person that thinks that this is a deliberate bit of mischief-making by FIFA in order to exert more control over UEFA?
Irrespective of that I think that a North European league is a non-starter. Why? I cannot see people being interested. The Balkans (despite its troubles) is a fairly homoegenous region where there is some element of common history (albeit one mired in bloodshed and riven by ethnic tensions). It makes sense that these countries join together for league purposes just the same way it may make sense for leagues within Britain to club together (if there was any desire for this on the part of England).
A pan North European league of convenience, whilst being a novelty, would I fear, soon descend into a marginalised side-show (who would you rather beat some third placed Norwegian team away or the mini-Huns at TyneShackle?). Whilst Celtic fans have an appetite for this, I don't necessarily see Dutch or Portuguese fans being particularly enthused by it(look at their attendance at away Champions League clashes for a start).
I think for Celtic it either has to be joining a genuine European league involving all the big guns or a move to the Premiership (at the moment inconceivable). Whilst these remain elusive hopes I think it is back to the dreary reality of visits to Rugby Park.
As for what Varga said earlier, I would love to bring back the underdog. Red Star Belgrade, St Etienne and IFK Gothenburg are teams of real history who have contributed to what the game means to me.
I heard Sam Allardyce bemoaning the fact that if England lost a Champs League place there was no point in Bolton playing as they could never hope to come higher than fourth. Well, Bolton were, are, and will be, a small club who have got pumped up on big league money. They will never have the history of a Red Star; never be thought of by people on the other side of Europe as epitomising something great and exotic; you will never see their vintage strips on eBay for a fortune. That is the curse of the big leagues; they inflict undeserving teams like Chelsea and Bolton on the rest of us. Mediocre non-entities who will disappear as soon as the money dries up.
Having said that, I don't see an Atlantic West European league as the way to bring it back. A two tier Euro league representing all the main population centres (and big clubs rather than big leagues) and we may again see the re-emergence of these clubs.
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kitalba,
I would love it if the new league were invitation only and we, as the premier club in the country, were Scotland's only representative.
But I have a feeling that to be official, like the Scandanavian winter league, it would need to go through the national associations to UEFA and FIFA.
The other problem is what of all the other SPL clubs? Most would know that they have no chance of qualifying for the new league, so why would they want to reduce the number of league games they play?
It's not impossibile to set up, but I do think there are a lot of questions yeat to be answered.
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lying here poolside in the old u s of a, anyboby have any idea what channel the game is on over here, still awaiting wedding photos of grandaughter No 1 to be e-mailed,
hail hail
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If MZ takes a good,hard look at himself then I see no reason why he shouldn't be pushing for a place upfront.
So far the rivals for the positions are:
JVH.Proven quality,worryingly prone to injury.
SMD.First season.Unproven.
CK.First season.Unproven.
DR.Not the manager's pet[allegedly].
So assuming a 5* striker doesn't turn up in this transfer window the only thing stopping MZ making an impact this season is..MZ.
In Scandinavia the Royal League is a bit like the Diddycup used to be-small groups before a knockout stage,rather than a pure league format.
Also the games were to be played at a time when football shuts down for the winter darkness,when the bigger teams can struggle to keep their players match sharp.
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wee shug
ESPN2 Thursday 9.00pm EST
And I am looking forward to it......
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Jeez I forgot wee Gerd Miller.The tablets must be working.
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So...
KM.Jerseyshrinker.Bovine,buttocks and banjo.
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Love-related post on Celticdelia
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add Videoton, Grasshoppers, Brugge, Hamburg, Borussia M'gladbach to the list of forgotten Euro greats.
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I can't get my head around the fact that the television audience in England justifies them being considered a major league.
The money comes from BskyB, which is not an English television company, unlike the French, Italian, German and Spanish national broadcasters.
Just because there are different associations governing the game in these islands, this shouldn't mean that there are second class subscribers to the television companies.
We pay the same rate as English viewers and those who live in GB pay the same licence fee to the BBC.
For UEFA to arbitrarily decide which clubs ,in what I believe is still the UK, receive the bulk of the cash ,is in the first instance, unjust and secondly, possibly open to challenge.
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I think if Magic and BBJVOH both stay injury free and get a string of games together, they will form a decent partnership. I'm a fan of Magic, but I think last year he suffered from the lack of rest in the summer, compounded by injuries. We saw the season before that he was a decent striker and has a good goalscoring record. Its a shame hes not getting a full workout this preseason....
I think Skippy will surprise a few fans and get a few goals.
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F.C Dariusz Danesh were a great team of the 1970s. Whatever happened to them?
By the way (apologies for the title in advance) but Brilliant Orange is a great book on Dutch football from 1960s to the present and would recommend it for anyone looking for a great read whilst sipping Pina Colada on a sun lounger this summer if you've not been away yet.
Any other footballing reads that any CQNers can recommend before I go my hols?
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Tutti Fruiti – you might have a point there – games against the likes of Ajax, Benfica, Feyenoord would be worth making the effort for, but ones against Helsinki, Copenhagen, Anderlecht etc would be rubbish. There would be novelty interest at the start, the standard of football would improve, but long term is it what we really crave?
I suppose we either get into the Premiership or forget about it. The other thing we should really push for is that The Champions League Competition consists solely of teams who have won their domestic league. This nonsense where the top 3 in England, Spain, Germany & Italy qualify is diluting the prestige of the competition, making it near impossible for teams like us to consistently perform & removing the element of surprise where a team like Steau Bucharest or Red Star Belgrade can sting a Juventus or Barcelona. I like your point about Bolton & Chelsea. You can add to that list Portsmouth, Wigan, Blackburn & Middlesborough. Take away their money & they are nothing clubs with no soul.
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Tuttfrutti..
The damned United by David Peace is superb, couldn't put it down. Just bought another Clough book, 25 years by his side by a local journ who knew him pretty well. Havven't tarted that one yet.
Non football- try Ghosts of Spain by Giles Tremlett. Excellent book about Spains regions, past and present and how they get on with each other. Very good read.
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TuttiFrutti -
Tor! by Ulrich Hesse-Lichtenberger - details the rise of german football and the Bundesliga. Excellent book.
Dynamo by Andy Dougan - About the Kiev team whislt under occupation by the SS and the story of their game vs. the luftwaffe (think eascape to victory).
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TuttiFruity the first 2 I read on holiday this year and they were brilliant books. The rest were all recomended by CQNers for me to take with me.
David Peace “The Damned Utd”
Garrincha: The Triumph and Tragedy of Brazil's Forgotten Footballing Hero
by Ruy Castro (Author), Andrew Downie (Translator)
Gary Imlach “My father and other Working Class Heroes”
Phil Ball Morbo the Story of Spanish football- History and politics in Spanish football.
Ulrich Hesse-Lichtenberger “Tor – the story of German football”
Paul McGrath autobiog
Niall Quinn Autobiog
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Maybe there are other ways to once again enjoy going to the football,without always harking on about leaving the Scottish League.
Value for money and the choice of sitting or standing,and adults being able to have a beer
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Tomthetim,
If your talking about the Market Pool element of the Champions League Money it is basically 1 euro per person in the country.
So England get about 60m, Scotland 6m, Holland 19m ...
Hail hail
Pob
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I don't think we are ready for bringing alcohol back to football stadia.
But I would love a return to standing areas. Nothing beat the Jungle on a cold Wednesday night for a European game under the lights. Standing areas also encourage fans to get in early for a good spot rather than all traipsing in five minutes before kick off.
All seater stadia were brought in by politicians in a hysterical state wanting to be seen to do something. It's time to re-evaluate and bring back the terraces.
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gordon_j
The club wants to know who you are and where you're sitting.
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'The Miracle of Castel di Sangro'by Joe Mcginniss[?].
It shows that shenanigans are not limited to serie A,but go all through Italian football
'Football Against the Enemy'by Simon Kuper:Andy Thom,Pygmies,Roger Milla,Rijkaard v Voeller,our very own 90 minute hate,Helenio Hererra
And,if you've got a very generous baggage allowance'The Ball is Round'by David Goldberger.A 1000 pages on the history of World Football.And will you find one good word about the cashstrapped desperadoes from G51?
No.
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Gordon_J,,can I ask why you don't think "we are ready to bring back alcohol"?
And TTTT,I don't want to hear any of your nonsense about hard men wi wierd haircuts.
We have never had alcohol being sold in a controlled manner at stadia in Scotland.
Let me rephrase that,we have never had alcohol sold in a controlled way to the general public at stadia in Scotland.
How can you possibly agree with a situation that allows people who pay more for entry to the stadium,are allowed to freely purchase alcohol,when others are not allowed,due,purely to the fact that they have paid less in entrance fee?
I am not advocating the right to take a carry out in with you.
Merely the right for an adult to be given the same priveleges,regardless of how much you pay for your season ticket.
Why can't you see this being a good idea?
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Pob,
Would that mean that Russian teams get about 150 million to share?
Somehow I don't think that is how it is worked out.
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bambi, I have already started on The Damned United. I particularly liked the bit when Clough takes an axe to Don Revie's desk then torches the chopped up wood in the car park. Did this incident actually happen? I pray that it did.
Thanks for recommendations. Tor! sounds like a winner so far but I am happy to go card daft in Borders to get some more. Any other recommendations are most welcome!
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just looked at the CL Access list for 07/08
even greece and russia get there champions straight in
even the portugal runner up gets straight in (thanks to jose at porto i would think)
its our uefa cup teams who always let us down -hearts hibs gretna!
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Tutti...
That's why I bought the 2nd Clough book, I want to know what was real and what was fiction.
Tor is extremely hard to find to be honest, Morbo is excellent and I would recommend it to anyone.
Football against the enemy-Simon Kuper, White Angels ( The story of Real Madrid) Barca by Jimmy Burns, Alex Belos' book on Brazilian football, the name of which I can't remember. All absolutely brilliant.
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Kano,
I think the problem with alochol is a societal one rather than simply a footballing one. TIt's a public safety issue. But too many people get angry, aggressive and lok for a fight after a few drinks. In the sometimes highly charged atmosphere of a football match this is a recipe for disaster.
Of course many people can have a few drinks and behave perfectly responsibly. But quite a few can't, and I'm afraid that spoils it for the rest.
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Amazon have got Tor!in stock for £7.49
DBBIA/HappytohelpCSC.
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Afternoon all
Some simple calculations to assess the merits of a northern European league (or any other such conglomeration):
BSkyB has nearly 12m subscribers across the UK and Ireland who pay around £30 (on average) per month for the service. This gives the company an annual turnover of circa £4bn per year.
This in turn allows them to bid such vast sums for the premiership rights as this is primarily what the 8m subscribers are after. Sky protects their customer base, maintain a (near) monopoly on live Premiership games and the customer is happy to fork out the £30 every month. So there are some key numbers right there for it to be worthwhile to generate the kinds of TV revenue required by a new league.
Extrapolating – we might see a new entity or a sports only subscription service bid for the rights to our new league but would we get enough subscribers??
Put it another way, would Scottish subscribers pay £15 to £30 per month if they were only getting one or two Celtic or Rangers game per month? Would the league’s diverse customer base be that interested in 4th placed teams playing 16th placed teams in any country beyond those of the teams playing?
I have heard that Setanta has a take up of 100,000 subscribers in Scotland. From a population of 5m then a 2% take up rate ain’t that impressive. Now, being generous here, say that the new league offered a far superior product then the take up rate might double to 4% in Scotland. Taking that rate to the rest of the countries in the league means that we would need a population base of 300,000,000 people in order to reach the Sky figure of 12m subscribers.
Football fans in the UK pay a lot of cash to watch the heavily hyped Premiership but they pay that even if they have no particular affiliation to the teams in the league. Even guys like us in Scotland pay the money to watch the premiership.
I just can’t see how we could make good money from such a diverse customer base of a cross country league.
Personally, I would be in favour of a reduced domestic programme but an expanded European programme based on the current competition. I think there is merit in some of the redistributional aspects of the policies being floated by Uefa just now and these should be pursued.
Perhaps there is an argument to be made for the champions league group stages being expanded to 6 teams with guaranteed entry for (almost) all national champions and then a more robust qualifying campaign for the 3rd and 4th placed teams from the bigger countries.
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Gordon_J I think you are talking nonsense about the sauce at the footy. Many a punter turns up at Parkhead looking like they're just disembarked from the overnight ferry from Rotterdam to Hull as they've been shotgunnin cans of Breaker til 5 minutes before kick-off and they still get by ok without causing a ruckus during the 90 minutes.
If we had a place within the locale of Parkhead where fans could get a beer in official club premises(and charged at a top-end but not excessive price)then we would be fine. I for one would happily pay £3.50 a pint in clean, fan-friendly, club-supporting environment before the game.
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From FIFA web page
The Lions
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Tutti another good read is A season with Verona I think by somebody Parkes.
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Kano,
The Exception that proves the rule?
Fair Point - I hadn't looked at them.
I was curious to see how the money for Holland compared to Scotland and was surprised to see it was 3 times as much ... but after quick look on wiki discovered there was 3 times as many people ... which tallied up with England aswell.
Pob
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As I said earlier, many people can handle drink. But a lot can't. And they're usually the ones who cause the trouble if they manage to gain admittance to the ground. Alcohol is freely available in many places outside the ground - I think they are called pubs in this locale. So those who want a pint or two prior to the game are well catered for.
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read it green lion. I agree though, a great book. The Juve es merda section is particularly enjoyable.
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Tutti I think you would enjoy the Garrincha book. He makes Jinky/ Best / Baxter all look like tea total virgins but he still managed to win 2 world cups and also held the record taht whne him and Pele played together Brazil never lost a game.
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Is the guy Parkes not a lecturer?The problem I had with the book was when he would deviate from straight reportage and write'literature'.The bits dealing with the Ultra-lifestyle were interesting.
Books that have won,or been shortlisted for,the William Hill Sportsbook of the Year,are usually worth investigating.
Previous football winners are
Imlach-2005
Kuper-1994[F.A.T.E.]
Hornby-1992[Fever Pitch]
See:
http://www.williamhillmedia.com/sportsbook_history.asp#1991
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That's more like it Greenlion. I don't want bored by tales of Baxter sittin on the baw at Wembley then drinking himself to a new liver- zzzz boring. Give me tales of a footballing Errol Flynn. The best bit in the Best biog was when a Miss World stabbed him in the @rse-cheek. If Garrincha can do that, play in the same team as Pele and hopefully have some tales about training at the Brazilian equivalent of Seamill, I will gladly read it.
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Sheffield United boss Bryan Robson has confirmed the club will not be offering a contract to former on-loan Celtic defender Jean-Joel Perrier-Doumbe.
The Cameroon defender played 90 minutes of the English league side's 2-0 friendly win at Alfreton on 17 July.
However, Robson will not be signing the 28-year-old, who was on loan at Parkhead from French side Rennes until the end of last season.
Robson said: "He is not exactly the type of player we're looking for.
"But I wish him well for the future."
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Tutti I'll not even start on the story with the goat!!!!!
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Welsh legend Mickey Thomas also knows what it feels like to be knifed in the buttocks.
As in'So Roy Keane's on 50 grand a week.I was on 50 grand a week until the police found my printing machine'Mickey Thomas.
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Great No 8
SKY costs me £45 per month so they are coining it in for little coverage of Celtic other than the CL and SC.Cant see them back at the negotiating table soon now that we pay a subscription channel to cover the SPL.
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The Garinncha book is excellent.
My copy has been borrowed by three or four of my colleagues, who have all enjoyed it too.
There was a fairly extensive list of recommended reads in an article a few posts back - unfortunately I can't remember who asked for the recommendations at the time or indeed what post it was in. I do seem to remember that the person kept the list for future reference though....
G.
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great no_8....
interesting post, although i would question the sky subscriber numbers .....according to mays edition of tech magazine the numbers were as follows....
"the company now has 8,492,000 customers with sky subscribers passing 2.1 million"
i presume that means 2.1 million contract direct with sky and the rest come through virgin, bt, and other providers....
...the setanta numbers estimated the British Audience Research Board is 180,000 subscribers for what was mainly a SPL audience, this is expected to rise significantly with the access to EPL games this year....
i think there is a market for cross border tv, i would suspect that virgin,setanta and BT would be very interested bidders in the UK rights...
...from a sporting angle i can also see the attractions...i would prefer to retain a link to spl competition....for example if we had a 10 team spl we could play everyone home and away, for a total of 18 games, and the top 2 teams would then enter the "atlantic league" for their league over what was the second half of the season.....
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georgiebhoy it was me and I went with 5 of the recomendations. Rather than post the full list on CQN I have put it up on the blog if anyone want to view them.
PS Im chuffed I could actaully create a post on my blog.
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Sorry to post this drivel but it's causing a stir in the bbc chat rooms. Must be the most ridiculous story of all time but it's a funny read.
Deal to blow Scottish Football Apart
Scottish Premier
by Tony_The_Tiger_Tim 18 July 2007
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This story is going to break tonight and it will blow Scottish football apart.
Kris Boyd is at this minute at Ross Hall for a medical with a view to joining Celtic.
The deal which has been going on for several weeks now, will take Kenny Miller & £3M in the opposite direction.
I have known about this since the beginning of June and thought the deal had been rumbled when this appeared on this forum.
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A23576...
I knew at the time why he had pulled out of the house sale, but couldn’t say at the time, as it was decided that he would be better off living in the East coast rather than Ayrshire, when the news broke. The reason that it has taken so long was that initially Walter Smith wanted Craig Beattie + cash, but Beattie was not interested in a move to Ibrox after having been involved with Celtic for so long.
Gordon Strachan has always been an admirer of Boyd and sees him as the final piece in the jigsaw for team 3 and it has taken a lot of persuasion & effort from both him & Peter Lawell to convince Boyd & Rangers that this was the right deal for all parties concerned. Walter Smith also wanted to see how Darcheville would settle into the squad before sanctioning the sale. The price could rise to £5M depending on appearances and success.
Miller & Lawell are on a plane back from the states at this
moment
JUST ADDED
Well Lawell & Miller arrived at Heathrow an hour ago from Phoenix and are on the shuttle to Glasgow.
This is going to be a huge story tonight.
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Gordon_J,
what sort of reasoning is that?
Never heard such nonsense.
Do you ban people from driving because their is idiot drivers?
You still haven't answered my point on why people who pay more are able to purchase drink freely at the stadium.
What,are they more likely to be able to handle their drink due to their admission price?
Would you prefer the club not to make the money on selling beer at the stadium,rather than people cramming in a few pints in the hour before kick off?
Or don't football clubs wish to make money in your locale?
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The story is utter nonsense. Believe me, Boyd has just bought a house in Ayrshire. FACT!!!
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GreenLion2
been over, had a look, left a mention, and stole a couple of books..... :)
You were correct - it was you!!
G.
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Gweedorebhoy,
That fair brightened my afternoon.
I can only assume the guy that worte that is on the same as Mr Boyd was alleged to have been at the start of the year.
Allegedly.
One word, rhymes with fish....begins with a P
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Utter nonsense. What a waste of space. Let Boydie stew among the rabble he joined. I wouldn't mind us picking up Naismith, right enough; but, would still prefer a class CH in the best of all possible worlds.
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gweedorebhoy
just the sort of news i have been looking 4
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Pob,I haven't a clue how they do work it out,but that seemed way too simple and fair for something for UEFA to sanction.
I thought,surely it would have to far more complicated than that,so that it looked as if it was fair,but,that all the clubs in the big four leagues got most of the money.
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The Najavo name for Phoenix is'Hoozdo',which means'it is hot'.
Sure is.
Celtic are training in Denver,which is only adjacent to Phoenix if seen from outer space.
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BarcaBhoy
I think you will find it is 2.1 million sky plus subscribers.
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georgiebhoy I have replied and had a look at your blog and saw that it has a link back to mine... I just need to learn how to type using more than 2 fingers and I will start doing that sort of stuff...
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leftwinger
Agree utter nonsense but i found it funny
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Gweedorebhoy,
Are the followfollowers revolting (so to speak), or are they taking it with the bag of salt it deserves?
I think we should make a sale and leaseback offer for Ibrox at a market value, to see what they do. Make a mockery of GT's valuation and prove that we see them now as merely our neighbours across the river who have a great chance of recapturing their coveted second spot this coming season
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GL2,
Stevie21 is the man for links. His link at the top-right of the page should be added to your favourites...
G.
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theleftwinger
As you would expect 90% of people are giving the guy stick for the worst rumour of all time. One guy claims to have phoned Boyds father in law to be and been told in no uncertain terms that this is a load of mince.
Funny though.
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When does the Snyde 1 super scoreboard start back?
Has Terry O'Neil got a few topics lined up?
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supersnide starts back 23rd july as does real radio but after yesterday i dont think many tims will be listening to that one.
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Gweedorebhoy
Didn't the E-Tims RM hint at a name that no-one could have imagined us being linked with, indeed beyond our wildest imaginations. Well this would be beyond my wildest nightmares.
It may be funny but I'm no gonnae sleep well tonite.
A young lad that works with me and a Jambo to boot told me over two months ago that he was in Kenny Miller's company and he swore that he told the group he wanted to go back to Rangers.
Honestly he can go back there if he wishes and no hard feelings but please oh please not KB coming the other way.
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Steelica
Im with you i bear kenny miller no hard feelings or ill will. i remember the heated debate when he started and many people trying to bet a few of us minshafters that he would score 15 and 20 goals.
Sadly his poor first touch and lack of composure in front of goal mean he will move on (well i hope so.
If he wants to go to the huns and take a step down perhaps it's the right time in his career to begin winding down.
However, I would hope a fairly young man would leave rangers till later in his career and try and get a bigger and better club in the Championship or english first division.
If he stays he will get my support as always but the time is right for Kenny Miller to move on.
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Gweedorebhoy
I was indeed one that bet Shelbourne that he would score at least ten! I think his CL goals should count double:-)
To be fair to him you cannot fault his effort but he doesn't have the golden touch. The goals he did score though did have a bit of quality and importance about them, for example, his first against TFOD, the winner against ICT in the Cup and the third goal against Benfica will be well remembered.
I think though with SMcD we'll get both the effort and the goals.
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Steelica/Gweedorebhoy :- I would say the main problem there is I can't see him being wanted back at Ibrox. He has been there and it didn't work out, he hasn't set the heather on fire during his time with you. I just can't see it.
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Francis Jeffers wants to play under Walter Smith again as well.He thinks he'll be able to recapture his Everton form.
Oh,and I have it on good authority that J-A Boumsong was at Ross Hall today for a medical,with a view to signing again before the end of the week.
Oh,and Ex-Ger wee Gordon Ramsay has been asked to come up with a new recipe for porridge,now that the succulent lamb is aff.
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steelica
The joy he gave me with his goals against the huns and benfica will always stay with me. I would have loved Miller to have worked out as his pace and endeavor can't be faulted.
A small part of me thinks he might make a winger in a forward 3 but i agree mcdonald looks a scorer for the SPl.
I would however like to see a genuine class WOW striker partner JVOH for Europe, however having spent what we have i can't see that happening unless we sell an asset or assets.
Edward
i agree i could not see anyone at the death star wanting miller back apart from the cardigan who rates him highly because of his scotland exploits.
I did hear that boyd was not liked but the 5 year contract blew or should that be blow! that one to bits!
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Gweedorebhoy,
I don't listen to Real Radio, but what was said yesterday?
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dbia -
I would be delighted for Jeffers to rejoin them and recapture his previous rankers form every week!
GL2 -
Left a message on yer blog, and linked you as well.
KB would never join us - no place to park his goat at Paradise.
Lucry
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TLW-Some DJ called MCkenna made a reference to JStein knowing about the Torbert/Boys club stuff and not doing anything about it.
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RE: KRIS BOYD
Kris Boyd is not married so nobody could phone his father in law. He lives currently in Tarbolton with his parents I know his old man well he is a nice guy. He lives just across the road from my mother.
He has just bought a house in Ayrshire but most importantly he is a "Died in The Wool" HUN!
He hates all things Celtic and I suspect would rather retire than play for us. During his Kilmarnock days he used to don his Rangers strip and watch the Old Firm games in the local boozer among the hunnery.
Story is complete tosh!
RobinBhoy
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theleftwinger
Usally watch Roughie and ewan on setenta but never listen to the music programms.
Allegedly DJ Steven mcKenna at the end of the pink song "who knew" just said Jock Stein
Bit of an own goal i would say.
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Gweedorebhoy :- Those contracts you mention are a bit of a worry to me, I feel that five years is maybe too long to give a player. What if he turns out to be injury prone? What if drops form and never regains it? What if he turns out to be one of those players who lose interest once the contract they want is signed? I'm not saying any of the players getting those contracts are like that, it just seems a bit risky to me.
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Although I think Romanov is a mentalist looking for £10 milion for Gordon, it's good for us.
If in the next year or two Artur decides to leave, Gordon's fee like Scott Brown has inflated the market.
Realistically Gordon is a £3-4 million player although the media will tell us beter than Artur.
On the subject of Kenny Miller. When he signed I seem to remember him saying he wanted to move back to Scotland to nearer his family.
I can't see him upping sticks unless he really wanted to, although I know mothing of his circumstances.
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I'm listening to Steely Dan, any you ghuys play steelies wi wee baw bearins, same as bools ?
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edward
agree 5 years is to long for both parties but it seems in vogue with your team.
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hi paul.fellow celts.
why does everyone just assume we need a wow signing to play alongside jvoh.i think jvoh should give himself a shake or he will, or should find himself bench warming. dont know about any of you but he certainly hasnt set the heather on fire in my book.
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.......there was a guy in oor flats a Mr Steel who used to gie us the wee baw bearins and everybody called him Steely, he wisny the masseur at CP but he looked a bit like him
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...... does embdy dae the masseur/se thing at CP these days ?
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