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Mon the hoops!
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Is 90 in bed?
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greenlion
Good job, i'm off to my pit, hope I get up again.
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aye
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Deliverance - what a film! Where's that banjo?
Tonight's hero? Someone called Scott.
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I'll be joining the nightshift for this game so I'll throw in updates aswell for the rest of the Clan to read in the morning.
Good night to some of you. Good morning the rest of you.
( Big Liam cracks open a bottle of premium )
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By the way, anybody who likes footie should go to WG's blog, especially his first article on Pink Floyd ;o)
lovejoy.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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to one & all
the mut is adoring the attention
if you condone read
if you condemn dont
i happened to be on when the offense occurred - one of the first to opine...
dont let this ruin the blog - it can!
no tit bits
or
steak from the plate
is how I will judge the blog...
AS A WHOLE
then i'll contribute or be gone
But Celtic will never leave me, or will i ever completely articulate my love for...
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how are we getting commentary of the match tonight?
Cheers brothers & sisters
xx
tbd
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OK........................Paul
Move over...................
I am the man 2.................
wait up.................
allzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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eh..........................
bigjoewhoDozzzzzzzzzzzzzzedOff
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this could be a late night, bhoys. :-)
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is the game on live tonight :o)
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Kenny Miller has just scored !
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Well he has in the re-run of 2nd half
of benfica game on CH67 :-)
Benfica just hit the bar by the way.
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Right Gents,
I'm off to the land of the rising sun this weekend, and have one day of work to go, so i'll have to be giving this game a miss.
Michael__67, if you're staying up to watch it, i'll speak to you 2mrw morn for an in-depth update.
Noel90, if you're still up, to provide some light entertainment for the late-night brethren, i would suggest a link to Alan Partridge's USA94 world cup updates might be a relevant touch
C'mon the Hoops.....let's have a few touchdowns into their goalbag earl in the first quarter
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Leftwinger
Duly noted. Got the Argentina V Chile u20 to see me through till the Celtic game...
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Here's the team i'd like to see start tonight...anyone differ?!
AB
MW BB SM LN
TB SB MD AM
JVoH SM
SUB: D_D
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I'd like to see us start with our strongest lineup , includes Capone , to have a proper look at him.
Kenny Miller to Partner JVOH , I think these yanks will leave plenty of space in behind.
Prediction 3-1
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Lefty
Noel's away for a kip till kick off so I'll do the honours...
Alan Partridge Road to World Cup USA '94
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Good shout about Capone...forgot about him!
I would probably drop Teddy B and slip Capone in the center and push scott brown out wide right, he's played there for hibs so would be interesting to see although in the long term i would prefer his 'Dig' in the middle.
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I expect a tough game tonight.
we may have treated last year's games in America as training sessions when we lost at least one game heavily but I think we have to treat tonight's with a bit more respect to avoid a similar fate.
i was listening to an interview with Steve Morrow(used to play with arsenal). He is currently head coach for Dallas i think. the interviewer questioned him about the standard of American soccer and suggested that it would perhaps be Championship standard but Morrow replied that most of the teams could survive in the premiership if they could play their first 11.
Considering we are playing against what is generaaly accepted as the best players in the league I hope we don't treat the game lightly. I expect that we will put out a strong side and not have the wholesale changes that may disrupt our shape unless the heat and humidity forces the manager's hand.
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Dziekanowskis...
Not often I agree with someone wholeheartedly but the eleven you have gone with is certainly what I'd like to see for the first 45 at least...
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67+....................
still not showing anything
Joethetired
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Michael,
I was gonna respond in your absence to confirm our strongest XI.
In saying that, i'd start Darren O'Dea ahead of big Mick
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What a goal for Argies U20...
Lefty
Id rather see O'Dea than McManus, but Strachan has showed through his pre season selection so far that O'Dea doesnt look an immediate pick for starting x1 at the moment. If that is the case id rather get Balde and McManus together and give them a test tonight...
Id like to see O'Dea, Killen, Capone, and Jarosik also make an appeareance tonight...
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Kingoh, I also expect a tough game not only because the MLS season is already half way through but also that the heat/humidity and altitude will take it's toll especially against players who are more likely to be more used to the climate than ours will be. Also the MLS league is generally being given good credit regarding its standard everywhere you read about it. It's also interesting to note the coverage we are getting through it in comparison to previous years.
M_67: i think GS will change it about after 45 or at the latest 60 due to the climate...but then again what do i know i am but a mere observer! lol
i think it will be a hard fought game with only a goal between the sides
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Think Darren O'Dea is currently out injured and so has not featured during pre season games
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lefty,
I'd swap McManus for O'dea in a second but apparently he's been left at home along with Evander snow!
D_D
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Declan
Cheers for the heads up. Hadnt realised that. Hope he is involved heavily this season, would love to see the mix of he and Bobo at the back. Could be pretty formidable.
Here, Sod the Celtic game - this under 20 semi final is a belter....
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Hope aiden treats us to one of these tonight...
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Or a bit of this
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Lets hope Aiden and the bhoys saw some of the Copa America and took note of The Master , The Aprentice, and The surprise package....
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Leftwinger
This better be keeping you up...
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40 minutes till Kickoff.
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rimtimtim
thanks anyway I have those dvd's already. Actually Lord of the Wing must be my most bought birthday present for others irespective of what their preferences.
Are you out in the states too RTT?
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waiting for the game to start here in the old u s of a, will try and post teams and updates if I am quick enough
hail hail
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Guys,
is it a 2am or 2.30am KO? Reading an article on the celtic website about McGeady and it states it's a 2.30am KO?! i thought it was 2am as reported nearly everywhere else on the web!
M_67: The snippets are keeping me up!
D_D
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Wee Shug
doesn't matter if you are quick enougth.
Please, for us in the dark, post them anyway.
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DD
I'll tell you in 20 odd minutes...
I thought kick off was at 2.00am. Could it be possible that C67 is having the game in full but slightly delayed??
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kitalba
will do my best
hail hail
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For the bhoys in Australia
I've just checked the ESPN Australia TV listings and according to that the game is being shown live here.
Kitalba who's jacket is already on and is gone to the boozer
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M_67
Thats what i was thinking...but as you were saying ... "We'll find out in 20" lol
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Rkid,
I watched the rest of the U20 match. Chile look exceptional. Their ball control, strength and technique is a joy to behold.
I'm off to my pit just now, but txt me any goals in the Celtic game in case i haven't dozed off.
TLW:AidenMcGeady'sAGeniusCSC
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whitedoghunch from last thread...
I do not know who you refer too..Wylie D?? I do know of two willie D's. One I work with and one a rapper. Help me oot will you?
Waiting on the game to start they are showing lacrose on ESPN at the mo... Never knew they had cheerleaders like that..
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Evening/morning all,
What a pleasure to be able to sit in front of the tv, drink a beer or 3 and watch the bhoys live. Usually it's up at the crack of dawn to watch the game before breakfast on the PC via C67.
Looking forward to the game. I think it is an 8pm kick-off which will means the program starts just as the ball is kicked off. Had it been NFL there would be a 3 hour pre-game show.
Still, not complaining at all. Just heard some Lacrosse commentator say that the Scottish Champions Celtic are up next against the MLS all-stars. That's not something you hear very often.
CMON THE BHOYS
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Any updates would be appreciated people.
Work internet speed isnae good enough to watch and I don't have speakers.
Thanks,
Kano
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mncelt ,
We have it as a 2:30 am KO.
Although the UK hasnt got the live feeds yet :-(
Any team news would be helpful.
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Starting line-up
1 - Artur Boruc (GK)
3 - Lee Naylor
8 - Scott Brown
10 - Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink
11 - Paul Hartley
12 - Mark Wilson
17 - Steven Pressley
18 - Massimo Donati
20 - Jiri Jarosik
27 - Scott McDonald
44 - Stephen McManus
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Subs
Substitutes
21 - Mark Brown (GK)
6 - Bobo Balde
7 - Maciej Zurawski
9 - Kenny Miller
14 - Derek Riordan
16 - Thomas Gravesen
46 - Aiden McGeady
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There's live commentary here...
http://www.mlsnet.com/scoreboard/game.jsp?match=07192007_ZZZMLS
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mncelt ,
Good stuff.
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Beckham in the crowd. TV saying the game is a sell-out
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ESPN starting coverage.
Beckham getting mention again.
Sold out stadium
"One of Europe's elite awaits. Celtic FC."
"Legendary Scottish side."
THat's us folks
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ESPN starting coverage.
Beckham getting mention again.
Sold out stadium
"One of Europe's elite awaits. Celtic FC."
"Legendary Scottish side."
THat's us folks
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Sold out and Beckham present
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Has C67 on the internet started yet?
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Morning all
It's a funny old world, mncelt. I'm enjoying the novelty of being up at the crack of dawn to watch the game on the pc on c67 before breakfast.
'mon the CHAMPIONS!
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No Capone then?
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Boruc, Wilson, Naylor, Pressley, McManus, Donati, S Brown, Jarosik, Hartley, plɐuopɔɯ, JVOH
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Looks like 2.30 parkhead time is correct for KO. 30mins of watching Beckham text someone on his phone before the game starts :)
More on the "legendary Celts" after the break....
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Kick off is on the 1/2 hour I believe.
Celtic review up after the adverts.
'GG
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Apparently we were founded in 1887.....
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"Most dominant scottish side ever - Founded in 1887"
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The most dominant Scottish League side ever. That'll be ESPN on the FF boycott list. :-)
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I thought it was a 2am kick-off and my crisp supplies are running low already. May have to write a firmly worded letter of complaint ;)
Team looks pretty defensive, must be going for the European approach and sitting back given the heat, etc.
C'mon the hoops!
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woo hoo
Big screen TV
Surround sound
Decent time
and a wee beer.
You lot in the UK are so spoiled.
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most ardent fan base in the world according to espn
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http://www.sportsnet.cc/v1/component/option,com_mtree/task,viewlink/link_id,1081/Itemid,31/
my bad?
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Beckham, beckham, blah, blah......
Top players, King Kenny, King Larrson and,,,,JUDAS????
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Beckham gtf. This is starting to get annoying ....
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Busy on here for a night shift. Is something on or has everyone moved abroad
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hey fellas, in boston on a work trip and watching the game on ESPN. So far its been all about becks in the prematch build up.
will post updates when I can
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thebhoydave
Have a large saki on me.
hail hail
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raining heavy in denver, that should suit us
hail hail
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lightning has held up the game
hail hail
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Starting to Rain heavy...should help the bhoys!
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Heavy rain right now - should make for an interesting night.
If lightning is within 6 miles of the stadium the players are taken off the pitch (hence no warm up)
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KO likely to be delayed due to weather....
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bit of a circus atmosphere, they have people parachuting onto the field.
there is also a Beck-cam!
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that yank goalie was good!
"Beckhams comin, never knew that, mustve been livin under a rock or somethin"
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Even the adverts are about Beckam - "I waz havin def fretts"
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teams heading out the tunnel
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setting free the bears
only too happy to help
saki hangover > ouch <
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bit of a circus over here
hail hail
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big mick captain, wearing the hoops
hail hail
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Bhoys are playing in the hoops :)
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KO will be on time
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US anthem being played
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Interesting night.
We could have a sweepstake for either the first goal or the first home based Scot to fall asleep.
'GG comfortable and tense. Is that possible?
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moan the hoops
enjoy the game everyone.
Hope wee Tommy Smith is commentating.
'een dee old onion baaag'
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Somebody gie Noel a shake , he's gonni miss the game
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Twice they have called us "Legendary"
Will Juan Pablo Angel be too fast for Elvis and Mick?
'GG part of the legend.
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GG
my moneys on me
whats my odds?
Peatzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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GG
I played 5 a sides game 5 hours ago. I'd bet myself to be the first to fall asleep, except I think it's a mortal sin to fall asleep during a tics game.
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they reckon we have 10 million supporters
hail hail
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They just had all the players announce themselves:)
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The big man with the long name knows how to bust the onion bag...
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JVOH just scored against Manu.
Players introducing themselves.
Kick off.
Still 0-0.
'GG
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Looks like I might be able to open my Guinness now.
That's twice they've come out the tunnel!
Where's it gone?
It's back!
Where's it gone?
It's back.
Hail Hail
Estadio
??? Bright young star ---Pablo Angel???
Rookie of the year----Craig Brewster!!!
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Game on
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Showing the JVoH goal against Man U
Line-up:
MW SP SM LN
PH SB MD JJ
JVoH SM
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We have now vision in the six counties.
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kickoff. mon the hoops!
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All stars with a great play
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Is there a big Hoops contingent in the crowd?
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Naylor fouled.
Free kick just outside box.
Joseph clears for corner.
'GG
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FK LHS of 18yd box. lee Naylor to back post and corner Kick
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Corner came to Nothing
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good start from the hoops
hail hail
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MLS play the ball into the box from the right wing, Boruc misses it, but goes out of play
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5 of the last 7 leagues - didnt mention G.O.D.
Jeez these yanks no nothing!
Boruc with a Douglas like flap...
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JVOH almost in there, mistake by the MLS linebacker
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Quiet first 5 minutes , the americans commentary is insightful !!
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1st chance for MLS - good save from Boruc
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Back to form boruc - great save from ricardo clarke
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they still reckon we were founded in 1887
Good stop by Boruc
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Boruc saves from point blank range.
MLS fwd got through rather easily.
'GG
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I suppose wi the time difference it might be possible right enough!
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Everything played through Shalary Joseph when the yanks have the ball.
Lively opening - with Celtic not yet settled completely.
No real width in the team...
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I'm rearest to 90's onion bag chip in for the taxi and he's up !
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Tommy Donnelly getting a mention.
'GG
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Shpwing all the hoops fans in the crowd. Talking about the large worlwide fan base
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Americans are obsessed with statistics.
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Is that the guy from RTE commentating on the game?
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Celtic doing ok so far. Enjoying the very complimentary commentary.
That De Rosario looks a good player.
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This team Celtic they're going on about - sound amazing. Fans aparently out of this world.
'They call it paradise'...
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Wilson has had 4 touches - all bad
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Beckham sold 1/4 million jerseys.
Ticket sales are up at the grounds LA are due to visit.
'GG
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peatblog
:0)
Fair play to their coverage of Celtic, the history and the support.
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These commentators have obviously never heard of the mineshaft!
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'They call it paradise'...
I hear ya.
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GG
Wonder if Lee McCullochs having a similar impact for Rangers
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Nice move. Poor cross from Wilson.
'GG
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Michael_67
PMSL
'GG
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first time Ive ever heard pressley described as 'adventurous'
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it's difficult to follow the game, my picture keeps buffering. :-(
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Corner to Celtic. after 19 minutes.
PH overhits.
'GG
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Corner to the 'tic on LHS
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Corner to the 'tic on LHS
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Hartley kicks a field goal!
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Hartley puts it too high to back post
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Matt, you watchin it on the link I posted?
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Hartley with a corner so overhit im expecting it to land by half time...
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The bhoys will find this tough as the game progresses. It is difficult to catch a breath at this altitude if you are not used to it
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20mins MLS have been the more feisty, but in the last few minutes the bhoys starting to spread the ball around more smoothly and using the space. optimistic they will take command
Jiri has lost out a couple of times moving forward, too easily dispossesed.
Fascinating how this will develop. Encouraged by passing. ..
oooops
AMAZING SAVE from Artur
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Artur.
What a save from point blank range.
'GG
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Great save Boruc
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Great save by Boruc
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Boruc wonder save at RH post with feet
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Wilson lost his man at the back post - great save
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mncelt
I reckon many of the MLS will be the same....Becks looks pale
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Boruc actually saved with his coupon.
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Crosses giving Celtic problems.
'GG
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Humidity and altitude posing problems for the bhoys. The ball seems very light also.
Slow tempo game.
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Someone please very briefly post the internet feed - PLEASE!!
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Is JVoH playing. We've had 3 freekicks in their half with decent enough delivery and he hasnt been near them....
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25 minutes in and Brown hasn't shown yet.
'GG
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Len
look up
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Bhoys doing ok but struggling to string too many passes together. JVoH and McDonald not seeing much of the ball
Elvis booked after being skinned
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Elvis yellow carded.
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Pressley booked for diving in...in fairness he had to guy might have been in. Fk to MLS30yds out
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A few more people have emailed me for the link, but when I reply its saying email technical fault, don't know if this is google or what, so apologies I'm really not ignoring you.
Go to Winning Gemmils blog and check out his Pink Floyd article, very first one.
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another chance for MLS - Naylor turned inside out. Penalty to them
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Look forward to see if Balde could shore the defence up in the second half.
Great last ditch challenge by mcmanus
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penalty for MLS..
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Penalty for MLS.
Loked like a dive.
'GG
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penalty to MLS
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penalty to MLS
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Penalty for MLS.
Loked like a dive.
'GG
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pen to the yanks - challenge by brown after nobody dealt with cross
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Pretty soft pen after a Brown tackle
Saved by Artur
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save
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Interesting the yanks think its great conditions?
How many times have we cut to Beckham?
Penalty MLS ,
Pretty good dive.
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Artur king of the penalties.
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saved
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saved
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Boruc saved it!
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Save Boruc.
Carbon copy of saha save !!
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wish they would stop pissing about with that felt tip pen during the bloody game...
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Boruc keeping us in it.
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Cheers lads.
Dunno which is funnier, the yanks or the irish commentator with the ridiculously stereotyped irish accent.
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Jarosiks of the pace
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Pen- SAVED BY BORUC
dunno why, had a black screen and Tony Hamilton saying he didn't think it was one.
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Angel looks twice the player he did when ever i saw him for villa. Looks sharper and more confident.
Did O'Neil actually let him go, and bring in Harewood????
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0-1 Pressley skinned through the middle
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Angel as we are cut open thru the middle.
1-0 MLS
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goal MLS
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1-0 MLS , Angel
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on that note...
goal - angel
defense split far too easily
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goal Angel for MLS. buffering again.
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Pressley let him go and McManus slow to cover
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go warm up bobo
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Shots: Celtic 0 MLS 7
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TAXI FOR McMANUS
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Brown, JJ, Donati Hartley are allowing MLS to dominate midfield.
Not what we want from Brown especially.
'GG
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1-0
The ridiculously stereotyped irish commentator called it right , terrible defenders.
J Pablo Angel 36' (with a hair cut)
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GG' agree midfield not in it and playing to deep
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McDonald off post - good effort after good work by JVoH
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Hit the post from McDonald after JVOH help ball up.
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Skippy hit post.
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McDonald off the RH post from outside the box
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mcdonald rattles a shot after ball laid off by hesselink in his first holding up of the ball
more of that please bhoys
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Beckham getting ready for his HT interview - some guy just through him a 'tic scarf - wonder if he will wear it
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Pressley lucky not to be sent off - just got skinned again.
0-2
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as i have been for the past 15 years - i get the impression pressley is being found out...
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2-0 after poor defensive work.
Looks like I'll be hiding behind couch.
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pressley with foul outside box. again he's caught in 2 minds and ends up fouling the guy!
MLS score again 2-0
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2-0 terrible mistake from hartley i believe
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lucky Ricochet off the wall fell nicely for the scorer
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2-0 Tora for MLS.
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Fitter, faster, stronger,
free flowing football,
MLS masterclass
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We're poor.
We should ditch these USA tours and go and play preseason friendlies against Cliftonville.
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HT coming up.
Need Kennedy, McGeady and a miracle.
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what was that? 0-2. poor defending. Pressley will be sent off before the end if they keep running at him.
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poor team display
defence very very poor
forwards non existance
midfield missing
no excuses
hail hail
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half time at Dick's Sporting Goods Park:
MLS All Stars 2 Celtic 0
Celtic haven''t really been in this so far in the middle of the Park, and the central defence is back to normal.
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Our 3rd year of Stateside embarrassment ! Sooner or later the USA is going to get bored watching us getting outplayed out there and bye bye the greenbacks!
Jarosik, Pressley, Hartley, Wilson and McManus all poor
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Jarosik, hartley and pressley shouldbe subbed. Wide midfielders continually on the back foot and hence not helping the Centre midfielders. Pressley's just poor. naylor also been caught out a few times, but this is prob more to do with JJ not always tracking back.
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Jarosik off, Riordan on somewhere.
Midfield non-existent right now.
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Pressley too old and too slow, please god dont let him play in the CL!
Mcmanus a squad player at best, captain no thanks!
These comments are not just based on this friendly I was saying this beforer the end of the season, these performances just reinforce what I think!
Jarosik is off the pace and losing the ball a lot!
Brown out of position, he is a central midfielder that we are not seeing the best of him, why ae we accommodating hartley, he has not won a midfield battle since he joined!
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Scott Brown, Massimo and JVOH pretty anonymous. Hartley, Wilson and Pressley poor. Artur our only player. It is only a friendly but individual deficiencies are found out in whatever game - namely for Hartley (not imposing himself on a game), Wilson (looks out of his depth) and Pressley (behind the pace). We have cover, but we need full-back cover. JVOH seems to need a wide-player.
Beckham h/t interview - 'I'm here for five years'. Can you get odds against that?
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Shelbourne
I reckon Brown has been centre mid (just not effective) and Hartley at Right Mid...
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big liam
we have to play these games, it has nothing to do with america, it's just that we are very poor.
hail hail
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A PR opportunity up in smoke.
We should be at least 4 - 0 down but for Artur.
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Right hand side of defence continually caught out - middle of defence sleeping at first goal - middle of park sleeping for whole of first half - we can look at the high-altitude environment and the fact that the MLS are in mid-season compares to our pre-season, but 1 attempt on goal in the first half pretty much sums up, an inept performance.
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Ouch. Half time. Down 0-2...and taking a beating. If we don't sort things out this could end up a 3 or 4 goal loss.
First 15 min seemed ok as both teams played cautiously. They upped a gear. We didn't.
Our mid 4 are all central midfielders. They are too flat. The MLS players are getting the ball between the back 4 and the mid 4...yes, where Lenny used to be...and they are running at Pressley. Trust me, it's not a pretty sight. Can't imagine he'll be back out for the 2nd half. If he is, he'll get sent off.
We had one shot that hit the post...which espn didn't bother to replay.
Apart from Boruc, no-one is playing. We need Donati to sit back a bit to protect the 'hole', and we need someone to push on and support the strikers.
jarosik looks like he's playing for them.
Apart from that, everything is fine....:(
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In saying that hopefully most will be
distracted by the Beckham Circus and forget about us all together :-)
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Oh no! My worst fears are coming true. Wasn't too bothered about result but I think we needed to put up a decent show. not the case so far
Pressley needs to come off before he is sent off.
IMO McDonald best of a bad bunch so far.
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Can we hope for a touch of a GS half time makeover?
Lost my post..but most of it said above...Midfield missing and Pressley found out...
Ouch...
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HT MLS 2-0 Celtic
OK - I know it is a pre-season friendly but we are being outclassed. We have got to do better in these games if we are to enhance the name of our club overseas. It is dissappointing for me to see Pressley and Hartley still wearing the hoops for the new season. I thought I understood why they were bought last season but expected them to be moved on already. Pressley is a shadow of the Hearts player he was 5 years ago. Hartley is out of his depth.
The MLS team are a yard quicker - I guess that is to be expected at this stage of their season. Scores on the doors...
Boruc - 8 - Two or 3 great saves including the penalty. Not a chance with the goals
Wilson - 3 - poor poor poor
Mick - 5 - trying hard
Pressley - 2 worse than Wilson
Naylor - 6 - looks steady
Jiri - 6 - trying hard and making good use of the ball
Brown - 5 - not really in the game after first 15 mins
Donati - 6 - looks comfortable on the ball but hasn't created much going forward
Hartley - picked up where he left off last season
JVoH - 5 - no service
McDonald - 5 - looks like he could be pretty useful.
Hopefully we don't embarrass ourselves in the second half. I'm on the fence about driving down to Chicago Sunday - a good second half show could convince me to make the long trip....
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do i feel a touch of crisis coming on
hail hail
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Took us 40 minutes to get our 1st shot on goal!
Big Yellow Taxi for Elvis.
Here come another bunch of Beckham ads.
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Michael,
To me it seems brown is drifting out right a lot of the time.
Bad idea to play with no out ball like mcgeady.
Dont think donati has done much wrong, everytime he gets the ball no one is moving for him, him and brown need to be working together,hartley and jarosik need to smarten up and pressley and mcmanuis are embarassing
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Back with C67 after a 2 year break and am impressed with the quality.....much improved. Only problem I have is Tony Hamilton, his bias is uncomfortable to listen to,he reckons we are unlucky to be 2 down!!!!!
Couldn't believe I was going to watch Pressley and Jarosik. Both have been so poor and do not have a future with The Hoops. Difficult to pick a Celtic player who has impressed apart from Artur (although even he made a mess of it prior to the penalty). JVOH continues to worry me and Magic or Killen shopuld be given a run out.
McGeady must come on
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Surely that just confirmed what we all knew/suggested/suspected.
Jiri gives the ball away when the whole midfield is up with him, leaving the grand canyon for MLs to flood forward into.
Fast Mobile Centre backs might help but eventually we would be punished for Press's inability to....well inability will do!
Having said that Mark Wilson is nowhere near fit and needs to get either very tight or drop further off. At the moment he is getting turned and beaten for pace, pulling our middle out of position.
Massimo (who started really well) and Scott B are I think genuinely trying to pace themselves.
Apart from one shot we achieved little up front.
Paul H still needs a rest.
So where do we go?
Our only option in the middle at the back is Bobo but we need more pace there. Gordon must be thinking of the game on Sunday.
Get Aiden on in place of Jiri and a Deek for PH.
We need to put them on the back foot and get them worried about us. We are defending far too deeply with far too many players trailing in their attacks wake.
At the moment their defence is not being tested.
If none of that works, then maybe JVOH needs to come off and Magic go on.
Given all of that, I haven't a clue what it is like for players to play in the altitude and humidity that is rarely experienced.
Anyway 45 mins and 3 goals.
If any team can do it then.....and we've always got Tommy to confuse the hell out of them!
Hail hail
Estadio
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Changes at half time are: zilch......amazing!
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Shake up in midfield, required we need to take it by the scruff of the neck in that area. Due to our weakness in midfield, the defence is being attacked/exposed constantly showing up some obvious weaknesses. Some problems for Gordon to sort out at half time, will he alter midfield , make changes in defence or both?
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TG on the pitch talking to Beckham
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Central defence caught out for both goals.
Wilson caught out a couple of times at the back post.
Midfield MIA.
Only once JVOH and McDonald able to link up and resulted in McDonald hitting the post.
Artur must be raging at the lack of cover.
Need to beef up midfield. In the wet conditions McGeady could unlock their midfield and defence.
Second half coming up.
TG and Beckham having a wee chat.
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Its all a bit pre season friendlyish.
Players not sharp, not gelled, and not performing to their best.
Bar Pressley, I wouldnt worry about it too much. Plenty of time and games to sort things before the real action starts
And im sure we'll see a better second half anyway.
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no changes at ht
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Shots on goal 1st half:
Us- 1
Them- 12
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Shades of last year, Boruc is our best player 2 great saves plus a penalty save, we've had one shot on goal Jiri plays give-away Wilson getting torn apart, Hartely a no show Pressley a too slow, god give me patience
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Estadio
Should that not be 'to confuse the hell out of us"...
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starting to play now
hail hail
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Early days for Donati, so no big concern. But Joseph is dictating the play and the pace of the game in a way I haven't seen someone do in a while.
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Nice cross from Naylor just cleared away from JVOH.
Brown carded. After late tackle.
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bright start - brown booked
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A bit better at the start but JVOH and Jarosik still disappoint.
Brown booked. Hamilton thinks it's a disgrace.....he's wrong.
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aiden and miller getting ready
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McD goal dissallowed
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McGeady in the bullpen along with Miller.
Keeper drops shot from JJ McDonald scores but offside.
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mcdonald scores but offside
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goal chopped off for offside. dunno who, just got a black screen.
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much more positive this half.
C'mon bhoys....
Skippy goal chopped off rightly for offside
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jiri and JVoH off
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Subs 53'
Miller and McGeady on for Jarosik and Vennegoor of Hesselink
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McD was just offside as JJ shot.
JVOH replaced by KM.
JJ by McGeady.
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Good my two bad bhoys are off (jvoh & Jarosik).
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Pressley allows fwd to walk past him inside the box.
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Talking about Boruc blessing himself and the reaction of the evil ones
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An hour gone and we have yet to seriously trouble this defence.
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we are very very poor especially up front
hail hail
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mcgeady looks up for it
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mcgeady making a differnce...just need hartley off...he's almost invisible!
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This is a poor display and my pre-match fears are looking realistic unfortunately. Our style of play is not what I expected, too defensive. I think a problem is developing with our weakness at right back. Wilson is poor to-night, very poor.
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we're not very good, wondering why i have sat up to 4am to watch us play so poorly the last 3 years.
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DD
Sure hartley came back out. Wouldnt be surprised if he was still on the pan in hte dressing room. He would be contributing as much...
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good move- aiden to McD and just wide
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Wonderful turn and cross from Aiden. Offers us a lot.
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mcgeady doing his spin and creating a chance a near post for mcdonald
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Great turn by McGeady McDonald just wide of post.
Bit of Magic from McGeady.
Magic coming on.
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great play by Aiden, ball through, plɐuopɔɯ ʇʇoɔs could only toe it past the post, though.
Sub 65'
Magic on for plɐuopɔɯ ʇʇoɔs immediately after.
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espn just showed their goal of the week - nice one from Ngwenya of Houston.
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TG on.
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When did Tommy G come on?
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McGeady is looking good but Gravesen's first pass is a bad one!
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I dont think mc donald's goal should have been chalked off, yes he was in an offside position when jiri hit hs shot but he was not interferring with play, then the keeper touches and the ball is front in front of him so played onside
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Big Bobo now on for Pressley.
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bobo on for pressley
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Elvis has left the building.
BB on.
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Pressley misses his man. Actually the news would be if he found him.
Gravesen down to his usual standard.
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Sub 73'
Bobo on for Pressley
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thankd god Pressley's off and balde's on!
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Shelbourne.
The problem was that he never came back onside.
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big bobo on----- presley off, hopefully for good
magic's second touch is a tackle
hail hail
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TG running aimlessly and loses the ball.
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Those poor Celtic supporters who live in the USA. They wait all year to see their team and then have to put up with this type of display.
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Gravesen is so poooooooooor
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But Wilson is worse!!!!!!!!
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Wilson almost scores a needless OG.
Compounds a miserable night for him.
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celticlover
celtic are so poor........tonight
hail hail
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Wilson has a go at an og, but his bullet header is just past the post, to the relief of a scrambling Boruc.
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Im surprised at how cohesive they look. They look far more familiar with each other, their positions, and the system they are in, than we do...
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Boruc saves again with O'Brien through.
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another boruc wonder save!
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another good save from Boruc. We are getting taken apart far too easily. Our use of the ball is pathetic
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Boruc is superhuman...
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great save by Boruc as the defence goes missing again
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This would be 5 nil if it werent for Boruc, MLS so confident they are now bringing on a 37 yr old !
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m_67: and the best of it is they have only formed for this game! Seems like a few of our players could have a bit more pride!
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Boruc another save although fwd was offside. Rebound went into net. Doesn't count.
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abother save by Boruc, the rebound gets tapped in, but the flag was up.
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looks like we are tiring - no late giveaways celtic - one back would be a bit more respectable. Irish commentator talking us up big style!
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Magic is holding the ball up much better than JVOH
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POPE is on.
Maybe we now have a chance.
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Aiden shows some skill - rolls a 5 yd pass to Hartley who fails to control it......
Miller putting himself about and doing the best of our forwards
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Magic crowded out in box.
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McGeady and Magic have looked lively - but we dont seem to get enough playes or momentum forward to make use of it.
Hopefully it'll come in the coming games...
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McGeady causing some problems wins corner,
Pushing forward at last.
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It's not the result that hurts but the style of play and the fact that only Boruc and McGeady played to any sort of standard. Pressley, Jarosik, Hartley, Gravesen and JVOH were really poor.
I would have liked to have seen Bjarnsson have had a run out.
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Balde in opposition box for a couple of crosses looking to cause a bit of bother. We lost possession and the big man charged back.
At this stage of preseason and given his injuries and lack of games last year, his fitness looks pretty impressive...
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The MLS team were really up for this. It's a shame we weren't. 3 mins added
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Game over.
Time up for JJ, TG, SP.
Boruc saved us from a beating.
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FT: MLS 2-0 Celtic
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The pain is over 0-2
Hopefully we get some increased fitness out of this because we got nothing else
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My connection crashed with 10 minutes to go. what happened?
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M_67: I'm always impressed with Bobo when he does the basics and doesn't try any fancy stuff. i once heard he had the lowest percentage of body fat out any other players at parkhead...not sure how trues this statement is though.
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'gg@ I'd add hartley to your list too-totally anonymous apart from when you spotted him making mistakes...like controlling a ball! How much does he get paid per week?!!
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Positive aspect of this game.
We have a few weeks left to get it right.
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DD
It's a bus to EK for Hartley.
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Positives from the game:
Boruc and McGeady look ready for the new season.
Roll on Sunday - I think.
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Avoided an embarrasing score but the performance was poor. Boruc was magnificent. Naylor McGeady and McDonald could not be faulted for effort. Everyone else was weak.
We predicted beforehand that we would struggle here but we secretly hoped it would be better than this.
Final well done to the crowd for support and behaviour. Wish we could have given you a performance to boast about. Really hope we manage this in Chicago to try and recover some face in the USA.
Though I am disappointed, I don't believe it predicts any disaster for the season ahead.
Night all till the Chicago game.
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well, at least we made a game of it in the second half, although we desperately need a couple of competent centrebacks.
If we play like we did the second half on Sunday, and have that bit more luck finishing, we can beat Chicago, assuming that really was the crème de la crème of the MLS.
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Better effort in the 2nd half. More energy, better shape to the team.
From a fitness point of view, this will have been a huge success. Our lads had to work real hard against some very quick and fit opponents.
I do feel sorry for our fans though. Many travelled a thousand miles or more.
Still, it's all about the coming season......
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Good work out for us none the less...i suppose thats what it's all about, just wish we were a bit more streetwise/cocky and showed a bit more pride like the seville team.
anyway, time for bed.
Oiche Mhaith
D_D
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PS: Really enjoyed the change in commentary...such a difference from the usual inept BBC/STV. Can the aforementioned channels please take note?!!
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I think we badly need a right full back.
Wilson doesn't seem to be cutting it.
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I'd love to know exactly what we learned from this game tonight that we didnt know already.
Pressley nowhere near good enough.
Wilson struggling badly.
We need defenders.
We have a great goalie.
Shades of last season with us struggling to put a couple of passes together and our keeper keeping the score respectable.
Paul alluded to the fact that we might see a more formal tactical approach to the game. God help us if that was true. The team had no shape whatsoever.
Defensive recruits required now.No excuses.
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And another thing. Its a good job Steven Pressley got all that rest over the summer. You could really tell today as the MLS forwards ran past him at will.
Taxi for Pressley.
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Good night everyone.
Commiserations to those who have to rise for work in the next hour or so.
And for those who will not get any sleep worrying about our prospects.
'GG in the latter group.
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Well that was like watching a slow motion accident in reverse.
Boruc saved our blushes.
Aiden was a breath of fresh air....
JJ left us backpedalling too often after easily losing possession going forward.
Scott McDonald looked promising.
I was looking forward to seeing our new midfield but it didn't show up.
TG continues to be a raging bull in a china shop.
I acknowledge the conditions may have been hard to adapt to...But Pressley....????
Cue Rocky Music...'Getting Stronger.....' (I hope).
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and 90 slept through it all, too. what happened to his wakeup call?
I blame Pressley for it not working. ;-)
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PJB
TG a "Raging?" bull.
More like a lost chicken.
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GG
Jiri at least showed some football intelligence and vision. His execution let him down and caused us problems when they broke.
I can see some other clubs showing an interest in him.
With SP and TG the word 'execution' also figuratively came to mind but that was because I can't see anyone wanting to take the plunge and recruit them, although I think that TG must have a very persuasive agent.
The biggest issue for me was our inability to adapt to the conditions and retain simple possession.
When MLS built attacks and we defended as a unit I never felt unduly concerned unless MW was caught in a 1-1.
However when we attacked we would invariably surrender cheap possession and not be able to recover.
While fitness is a major factor in the conditions in which we were playing, the best players are able to use the sharpness of their brains and there is usually someone on the field who is snarling at them to play to the conditions.
I don't think we have found our captain yet!
I think that SB and MD did adapt but we never really adapted as a team.
That left them in no man's land as players who had run off into the distance couldn't get back leaving us with 2 vs 4!
The second half was inevitably better but when a team is firing on maybe 4 out of 8 cylinders, engine seizure is inevitable.
All the above are observations and opinions, NOT judgements!
Strangely enough the above wittering also contains some real positives.
Our desire to get forward will pay massive dividends in the coming season, especially as the profligacy will be strangled out of the team.
The shop window will probably have served its purpose for a few of the 'thanks and goodbye' players.
But most of all, and I think that we will all see a massive difference on Sunday, the players who were notable by their absence, Darren, Teddy, JFK will hopefully be involved; and Magic will reestablish himself as a main front runner and goalscorer.
So being a 'cup three-quarters full' and a 'can almost empty' sort of person, I am now looking forward to firstly draining my final dregs of Guinness, a long lie in till the pressure of my bladder forces me to get up, and the build up to the Chicago game.
Goodnight/morning to everyone who was and is still here.
We are indeed Celtic supporters faithful through and through....
Slan go foil
Hail hail
Estadio
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'GG
I do not mean Jake LaMotta.... I was thinking more along the lines of a wounded beast being toyed with by a matador called 'the baw'
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G'Night Y'All
KTF!
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Estadio
While I accept that the altitude and conditions, hot, humid and slippery underfoot, were difficult, I was disappointed by the lack of combatative competition for possession.
Even in the first half when we were fresh we were losing out in 50 50 balls and second best in tackles.
Hesitancy caused the second goal and lack of pace and commitment caused the first.
That early on we should have had the heart and lungs to match them head to head.
The fact is only Arthur's heroics saved our blushes.
BB's entry may be a positive aspect, so hopefully he will make a start on Sunday.
We lack someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck. Brown would have been my man to do that but tonight raised a few doubts in my mind. I hope he doesn't become another Hartley.
The sheen has dulled from the pre season silver linings.
'GG
Bed for me now. KTF.
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Watched the game without commentary. (watched it in the home of the Brisbane RFC)
It was obvious though who the star of the show was. One David Beckham. Thank god his missus wasn’t present.
I only have Setanta normally here in Oz and on that production I‘ll take that before American style coverage any day.
To the game, well we got what we deserved. Nowt.
I’m not too concerned by the result but I was a little disappointed for the viewing Americans. Surely they expected better. I did.
I’ve always been a vocal supporter of Gordon Stachan and as long as he remains the manager of Celtic Football Club, I will remain so.
But Gordon, we are so one dimensional at the moment. We are so predictable and devoid of invention, sometimes I cringe. We have the players of proven ability. It is your job to sort out formation and game plan. Too often we have ten men behind the ball. The forward pass is not an option.
I understand that a full bodied tackle has inherent risks and at this stage of preseason are to be avoided. But if we didn’t give the ball away so cheaply.
Don’t be afraid to lose, dare to win.
If players won’t fit your system then be brave, Put them on the Official Transfer List.
Now I will not get carried away by this result but some things are becoming painfully obvious, It was hot there, the ball was light and the air lighter. But it was the same for both teams.
If I was sharing a beer with G. Strachan. From my point of view:
Stephen Pressley is over exposed and to long in the tooth to react decisively.
I would like to see JFK or young O’Dea given a chance to impress.
Bobo Balde needs more games. I would give him to Christmas to prove his fitness and commitment.
We do need cover at full back. Wilson looks like he still hasn’t recovered. Give Irvine a chance for the moment.
Tommy Gravesen, has undoubted ability, it is his attitude that I question.
Paul Hartely, looks overawed at wearing the hoops. His ability is beyond question but he has to relax and play his own game.
Nobody in the hoops has a bigger heart than Kenny Millar. Unfortunately it may not be enough to keep you at Celtic.
The best player on the field tonight for me was Sharlie Joeseph. By an American, country mile.
In a Celtic jersey? Boruc./McGeady
Still a lot of work to be done. Still I look forward to the next game.
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Early morning wake up call for Gordon Strachan.
The optimism after the QPR game evaporates in the thinned air of the Rockies.
Followed the game via the CQN updates so am relying on the consensus as expressed above.
Artur saved us from a humiliating scoreline but the team ( especially first half) have once again shafted the Stateside Celtic supporters by putting on an inept performance.
US based fans who told their friends and neighbours that their team was in town are probably now having to explain that "we're much better than that", "it's early in the season" etc. and may be hearing in reply "yeah I think I remember you saying that last year, and come to think of it the year before as well!"
Lots of excuses about humidity, temperature and altitude will be used as mitigation.
The MLS All-Stars may be the best available in the states but they are still a bunch of strangers thrown together and we should not have been completely outclassed in this way.
The stats for 'Shots on Goal' at one stage were Celtic 1, MLS 12
If we do not beat Chicago convincingly I can not see any point or benefit in future US trips ( would we even get a future invite?)
I think there is a possibility that MLS teams see the games as more important than we do ( the way we get fired up to play EPL teams when they see the fixture as just another warm up game)
There is an attraction for the MLS in inviting us.
We bring an audience and it allows them to showcase their league ;it also lets them pretend they are better than they really are
They are raising the profile of their brand outside their shores, but is it at the expense of ours?
Much better required on Sunday
The Onlooker
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Just finished watching the game, my first home HD experience. Which made it all the uglier. This was as bad as last year in the States; at least last year we played our 2nd string.
Doneti? Whoa!!! Did he play the whole game? Did he start?
Brown at least reminded you he was on the park with some lippy in your face stuff and some heavy tackling. If you are not playing well at least compete. I’ll give that to Mr. Brown the rest played poorly and preferred to hid.
My wife said to me, “well it is not fair All Stars playing an ordinary team anyway”. Out of the mouths off babes….more truth in that than she knew.
We were inept up front, ineffectual in the middle, incompetent at the back. TGF Boruc!!!!
No shame losing to MLS All Stars, almost everyone does. But try a leg, look like you know what to do.
We may be raided by the polis tomorrow for acting outside our articles of incorporation as a PLC (ultra vires). Trading as a football club but peddling something that could be thought of as not that!!!!! No mandate to sell tripe!!!
Team III every bit as good as I and II. Celtic for the SPL by Chrimbo
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Of course it was just a friendly…cos we lost….right, that is how it works. Nod and wink when we win, friendly…aye right ( saw that from the QPR postings). When we lose, calm down it’s about fitness. Funny that.
What was the plan tonight????
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match report on www.thelordofthewing.blogspot.com
not written by the usual suspect..so it's decent....
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On this day in 1885 the FA allowed the legalisation of professionalism within the game.This was in response to the shortlived British Football Association,a breakaway group of clubs based in the northwest of England who were using professional players,many of them Scots,with increasing success.
The MLS have given last nights game a big build-up.It is depressing that we seem to have performed so poorly.The Americans wil wonder what all the fuss is about,and we are trying to establish a niche in the market over there.
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I didn't see the game.However the comments have fuelled my fears.
If i can quote Estadio.
"That left them in no man's land as players who had run off into the distance couldn't get back leaving us with 2 vs 4!"
I hope that this is soon sorted out.
This was one of the reason's that i rated Neil Lennon so highly.
His role in the side, was a defensive one.
He helped protect the back four ,and retain vital possession, to allow us to build up an attack.
Now many are saying that we gave away possession too easily ,and the back four are unprotected,and out numbered.
Mark Wilson is not a good rightback.
I don't care that it's early in the season.He does not have good defensive awareness, and far too often drift's of his opponent leaving them unmarked.
A dumpling like Lee McCulloch will cause him problems ,because of his strength and his superior height,and better heading ability.
Bobo,must be given games and a proper chance.
He is twice the player Pressley and Caldwell are.
Like Celticlover,i expect far more from JVOH.The jury is still out on him ,for me.
He will probably be our top goalscorer this season,but he still doesn't seem up for it.
He is a poor man's Chris Sutton, or indeed BBJ.
I feared this performance level,but expected the result.As i stated before the match they were good, but not great, opponents.
Many need to stop slagging of The Darnel.We are no great shakes.Many are living in a land of blind delusion.
Still,it is only a pre season friendly.
I am sure that the viewing American public think that we are quite brilliant ,but just not trying.
These jaunts to the USA and the likes of Japan are becoming PR disasters.
They are certainly not enhancing our reputation.
There is no doubt ,that this is now Mr Strachan's team.
There is a rocky road ahead.
He now has all the rope he ever wanted.
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I was interested to hear how Pressley got on after his "rest".
Nothing has changed and bearing in mind he wont have Lennon sitting just in front of him this season it is scary.
Indeed the two ex-Jambos have not impressed one bit while the other problem position RB is looking in need of strengthening.
Question - compared to Pressley is Bobo not worth his salary?
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Tinytim
While i agree it's only a pre season friendly some things need addressed.
Pressly and McManus are not a good Defensive pairing. To be honest i would have none of them and have o'dea and Kennedy, but as it looks like one of either pressley or mcmanus will be captain we need to find them a steady partner.
i personally would have naylor as captain or boruc.
It is obvious to us all that we need fullback cover. Naylor is excellent but can't play every game. Wilson is still coming back from injury and may yet surprise us all. That said we require a right back to push him and take over if need be.
I am not to concerned re donati and brown it is early days concerning a partnership and with Mcgeady looking good when naka comes back we may have a dream midfield.
However it is now time to transfer list Hartley, jarosik and gravsen. Cut our losses and buy some decent midlfield cover. Sadly it has not worked out for these guys.
Up front JVOH seems to have been spending time with Zurawski as his heart does not seem in it yet. I have a lot off faith in JVOH but he has to realise this is celtic and we demand 100% at all times.
We must sell Zurawski and Miller and Riordan if he is not going to be played and bring in a quality striker. At the moment we do not seem to have one. We have good honest spl strikers in McDonald and Killen but no one with real quality.
This may appear negative but it is not intented to be I think we have the makings of a fine team. i just feal sorry for the celtic supporters in the USA we have let them and ourselves down. Not by the result but by the way in which we played, poorly and without a semblance of organisation.
I hope we play better at newcastle as that to me is the big test.
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Look at our up coming 'Summer Cup Final'.
23 days and counting.
When we have played teams of a sub-European standard we have fared reasonably well.Against teams of a better standard things don't look so rosey.And whoever we get in the draw will have already played at least 2 competitive games in Europe.
Let's all light a candle that SN comes back from the Asian Cup no worse than tired.
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kevtic
Pressley played like he always did 100% effort but 50% quality.
The man is finished as a quality defender and hopefully the rumour of a dundee unt coaching post will come true.
in terms of CHs we should have
Odea
Kennedy
Balde
McManus
Cuthbert
Probably wishful thinking re balde as we can't afford his wages anymore.
Punt
Pressley and caldwell
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Match Highlights
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only 3 games left before the season starts and the biggest game of the season in finacial terms.
So IMHO Balde must be given these 3 games alongside a partner to get himself properly match fit.
We know he has the African Nations cup , but if his presence in the side is enough to get us through to CL group stages then he will have justified himself.
Pressley is and has always been an average SPL stopper in the mould of Tweed , Scott Willson, Darren Dods.I also put McManus in this class aswell, honest hard working pros who give their all but lack quality.
This is an area of the team Strachan must address, O'Dea and Kennedy are a season away from being the finished article and the Future stars we all want them to be.
This is not based on last nights performance.
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Morning guys
Now I haven't seen the game last night and I don't intend to - passing comment on friendlies feels a little like judging a U2 concert based on the soundcheck.
But.
I said to my fellow season book holders at the end of last season that I would assess our managers team building on one metric alone:
If we start the champions league qualifier with both Hartley and Pressley in the team then he will have failed in my eyes.
I hope last night was just an experiment.
#8
p.s. A wee theory. Maybe going to america is a bit like playing the boss at golf. You are there to impress, but don't impress too much.....and certainly don't beat the guy or you won't be invited back.....
Ok, maybe not. Well done to the MLS. I have been to the BMO field in Toronto a few times and those fans deserve a lot of credit.
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Gweedorebhoy
We certainly can afford Balde's wages. And at times I think fans should almost forget about wages, as its not the players fault they get paid too much, its the clubs.
We currently have a significantly lower wage bedget than we have had for years, so without analysing players terms individually, I think we cant afford to get rid of Balde, considering the centre half options it will leave us with.
Plenty of Centre halfs, but are any of them currently ready to be part of a team with REAL european aspirations, and grow as such. Along with Balde (already shown his worth at that level), I only see O'Dea who could currently setp up to the plate for that.
McManus has his strengths, and is good for certain situations, Caldwell hasnt played enough games at Centre half (or indeed enough at a high standard) to show he is ready/tough enough, Kennedy for me is still a stone too heavy and looks cumbersome turning and defenitely neeeeds to sharper his game and decision making up, Pressley has never been good enough for that level, now he is declining.
I dont know who id keep out of Caldwell, McManus, and Kennedy (if I was incharge) because they all have ability or potential, but just think they are too much of a liability to see us get to another euro final or really scare top european teams again...
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Micheal 67
If we can afford baldes wages why are we trying to punt him to anyone who will buy him?
Balde is our best defender we should say he is not for sale and build our defence around him and naylor.
I agree with the rest but feel Strachan and the moneymen would love to see Balde off the books.
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Great No 8,
Are you saying that if we qualify for the CL Group stages with Hartley & Pressley in the team then the Manager will have failed?
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Hi Dick
I will happily eat humble pie in that scenario but I feel that we will not have a good enough squad if the two Hearts drop outs are in our strongest starting eleven.
I am not privvy to the celtic dressing room or the training performances of players but i would hope that even in the current squad, there is a fitter and faster eleven available that doesn't need these two.
I see them as fine enough squad players but I would be very disappointed if they were the best we had going into a European campaign.
I know our manager loves experienced pro's (he was one himself for a good long time) but they need to have quality as well as an old head.
#8
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Gweedore, great Celt, though Bobo is, I am sure we have seen the best of him.
He sat on the bench all of last season and if he stays will do the same again. Time to move on.
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Paul67
Your comment re. Bobo needs further explanation. He was injured most of last season. When he was fit he was selected.
Some of the cynics on here might think you are following someone's agenda.
Last night was a friendly in the same way QPR was a friendly.
We need to trust the manager. It's unlikely that much if anything will happen between now and the CL qualifier.
The time for inquests (but more hopefully celebration) will be after that.
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Shattered after getting up in the middle of the night to watch THAT performance.
The centre of our defence and right side are going to be our weak spot again this year again. Pressley, really, really not good enough.
Still amazes me when WGS plays particular players out of position, when he has seen them have absolute stinkers in the same positions previously, namely Jarosik on the left and Hartley on the right.
Surely Mc Geady/Riordan should have started on the left with O'Brien or Teddy on the right (and yes I know Teddy is a central midfielder, but still more effectual that Hartley out there), JJ and Hartley are central midfielders and clueless on the flanks, playing them elsewhere resulted in the Donati and Brown being over run and leaving the defence badly exposed.
We were taught a lesson, it could have been a lot harsher only for a Boruc masterclass again, but I think WGS still has a lot to spend and the problem spots are more than visible to everyone.
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Bhoys
Groundhog day or what?
We were here last year as well. It is pre-season, a work out.
I did not see it last night as I was in the land of ZZZZZZZZs.
I have to say though that even from last season Pressley has not got me all shook up. He was emergency cover. He should not be captain and he should be encouraged to plan for his future away from CP.
Mark Wilson is......well to be honest just not a defender.
I propose that our priority should be a quality right back.
Gweedorebhoy....I honestly believe that SMcD will be our Gerd Muller. He is not just SPL class.
Sharlie Joseph....now what will it be like to have a BigJoe in the HOOPS!
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Steelica
Sharlie Joseph plays the style of game I think we'll see Sno playing when he is involved this year. Hopefully with a few Seasons under his belt Sno will be even better than that. Joseph was the best player on the pitch last night...
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Michael
So no BigJoe in the Hoops then?
I have very high hopes for Sno though.
Did young Evander not trap at all last night and what was said about Capone?
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‘x’, not true. Bobo was fit from the middle of September until after Christmas during which time he played only 6 league games – when others were injured.
For the record:
This may be your first post here, so I will cut you some slack, however, do not believe that people who hold a different opinion from you are being disingenuous. To question my honesty in over such a trivial matter (especially when the facts back up my observation) is not the way to build constructive argument.
Dontbrattback, comment deleted, it was too wide for the page.
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Fair enough,but a bit widthist.
Anyways,it was a link to the MLS website which has quite a lot on the game,and also Celtic's poor record in the US of A.
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Yet again, the usual harbingers of doom have shown their heads from the mineshaft. We're doomed, we lost in a friendly, how dare we lose in front of the tv cameras and the American Celts.
IT WAS A FRIENDLY, a training excercise, a game in which last year Chelsea lost and one of the MLS players described it as "his world cup final" and Jose described it as " a training game".
The high horses have been mounted and we are being told about "worst fears realised". We even have people saying we should be playing lesser opposition in our pre-season so we can score lots of goals. What good would playing against part timers do us in terms of fitness? We could stroll around and score a few and generally take it easy, in these games against better opposition, who it must be noted are halfway through their season, we get tested by their fitness, match sharpness and the fact they are very up for the game against the European upstarts.
Lets at least take a lesson from last year when we were beaten in most of our pre-season games yet still qualified for the last 16 in the cl and won a double. Lets wait until the serious stuff starts before we judge the players and manager. Lets wait until the transfer window has closed before we start demanding Gordon's head because he hasn't signed any one else.
Gie's peace.
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paul67
Yes we have seen the best of bobo but tell me honestly do you really believe that Pressley mcmanus and caldwell are better players tham him?
Bobo is our best CH only my opinion but sure others share it.
Bobo moving is not about football it's about money and kets not shy away from that.
Now if the wages we save are used to bring in a quality CH then i wont complain but no more caldwells, pressleys, hartley etc
Steelica i hope you are right re mcdonald as we need a striker badly.
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Bambi
Constructive analysis is not mineshaft doomsaying.
This is a celtic debate site not a jolly boys club
Remember that
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Paul,
I suspect you are right about Bobo, but I still think he is our best defender, and we missed his prescence in the SPL last season.
If there is one major criticism of Strachan it's that our defence has been a mess since the end of the MON era, and he has done little to remedy it in his time as our manager.
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Steelica
I think weve got too many vying for a central midfield role - but if we moved on a few - from last nights viewing Joseph could be worth a relatively inexpensive punt. He could also help to bring on Sno's game I suppose.
Someone said last night on here that Sno (and O'Dea) didnt travel to the US. I didnt realise that, and cant confirm, but he certianly didnt make and appearence last night...
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bambi
I expected to lose the game and we did, no big deal.
I do believe though that there are legitimate worries over the quality of a number of players.
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Gweedore Bhoy,
Constructive criticism is good and to be honest I agree with most of what you have said this morning,it is constructive in the main, My post wasn't aimed at you mate, other than the "Newcastle game will be the real test".
I agree Pressley shouldn't be regarded as a first choice CH, I'd love big John Kennedy to be the player he was and O'Dea to be the player we want him to be. I would also agree that Bobo on his game was our best defender but I also think he has his games few and far between now.
The real test for Celtic will be when the competitive games start and the CL qualifier is the REAL test not a friendly against Newcastle.
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I think it's hilarious that we've gone full-circle with Balde. Do people forget the madness in the man's play? I'm not even talking about his defeat-snatching antics in Seville; I'm talking about Lorenzo Amoruso-style errors against SPL sides. He may have better technique than McManus, but the man is a time-bomb, in my opinion.
If things arent working at the back then perhaps we should try out other things. If Strachan sees a use for Balde this season then fine, but let's not make a martyr or prodigal hero out of Bobo until he's hit a bit of form (and, if he does hit form and his stock rises, I'd like to see if his agent isnt again angling for a move back to the continent for him.) I hope I'm wrong and Balde is a revelation this season, at home and in Europe. But until that time I wont curse players like McManus, who've done an admirable job for us for long enough now.
There is no argument whatsoever for Elvis, however. The joke's over ("we can win the league even with clapped-out former currant buns") so let him lumber off to a coaching job somewhere, please.
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none of what im about to say is in relation to last nights game
against the MLS select, as i didnt see it and have no interest in
pre-season friendlies whatsoever. pre-season used to be
better when we were whacking 3rd division german sides 12-0
and giving the forwards plenty of practice.
we all knew (im sure) that pressley was a "journeyman" pro.
just not a quality centre half, certainly not better than what we
already had, albeit mostly injured. a good short term stop-gap
signing...at the time. he should not be commanding a starting place
every week. we all know it, does G.Strachan?
Hartley, no more excuses for this guy. never has been and never
will be good enough for a celtic midfield place. i cannot understand
for the life of me why we signed him. does G.Strachan know?
jarosik and gravesen for all the hype (i include my own excitement at the
prospect of these two in the hoops) are just not up to life as a celt.
jarosik has all the grace and neat touches a quality euro campaigner should have.
he just seems to have no drive or will in him. punt him as soon as.
gravesen, we all had high hopes. all dashed, a joker of a player. shows great
vision and an array of passing and shooting abilities, but good god he looks like
a 7 year old running around chasing the game getting nowhere near it far too much to
be any good. take the hit, ship him out.
i thought mark wilson was excellent in his first few months at the club, where has that player gone? go get whittaker.
Balde...another player who gets better the longer we dont see him. his time like lennons, suttons, thompsons, etc. has been and gone.
up front wowee where to begin.
miller - see hartley and pressley.
zurawski - underwhelmed by his lack of application.
riordan - why did we sign him? if we are not going to play him.
jvoh - better start delivering early or there will be rumbles.
thank goodness for boruc, naka, mcgeady, s. brown, kennedy, odea, sno & naylor.
we are still the best in the country by a long long way.
but our ambition is now bigger than that. isnt it?
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Oops, wrong account. Blitz est moi!
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Paul
I agree with what you say, and if he is going to sit on the bench all season i would look to move him on too. That goes for any player around the 30 mark, if they are not going to play then they should be looked at with a view to selling them. However I feel Bobo could and should have a big role in our first team...
Out-of-favour Celtic defender Bobo Balde has pledged his immediate future to the Glasgow club despite reported interest from Sunderland.
Black Cats manager Roy Keane was reported to have made a £1.5m offer for his former Celtic team-mate.
"I have made it clear in the past that I am very happy at Celtic and I am not interested in anything else," Balde told the Daily Record.
"As far as I am concerned, nobody has spoken to me about a move anywhere."
The 31-year-old Guinea international has returned to action after a broken leg and is determined to regain his place in the centre of the defence.
But he faces intense competition from Stephen McManus, Steven Pressley, Darren O'Dea, Gary Caldwell and John Kennedy.
"I love the club, I am very settled in Glasgow and I would be happy to fulfil my current contract," said Balde, who has two years of his current contract still to run.
"I just want to be fit and ready for the start of the new season.
"I am just concentrating on getting my fitness back to where it was.
"Last season was one to forget and I want to get back to my best."
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History shows again and again..I think it was the great Hungarians or Real Madrid or possibly both that believed in going out pre-season and getting a string of 15-0 victories under their belts.
The best season Celtic ever had was built on a very successful close season tour of the US.
Yes these are pre-season games,but we should be seeing some evidence of the team taking shape,with only a bit of tweaking to do before the real stuff starts.We can win the SPL in half a season.We must avoid another Artmedia debacle.
We don't know what our central defensive pairing is,we dont know who our wide left midfielder is,or who will play upfront.
And if Naka gets injured against Australia?
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Gweedore, no, I did not say that, but it is time to plan beyond Bobo (though I would have McManus in ahead of him and sometimes Caldwell).
Sell and replace him.
Your opinion that Bobo is our best centre half is not one I share. He is a play who often plays better in the memory that on the park (as Rev Davie alludes to).
Your assertion that moving him on is about money, not football is again an opinion but not one that stands up to much scrutiny.
Bobo was never first choice last season, like any other second choice player around his age at the club, he is available for transfer. You may not think the manager was right to leave him out so often (whereas I do), but given that he clearly did, Bobo should join the list along with Gravesen, Jarosik and Miller – who are all available for football reasons.
Michael 67, you cannot fault his attitude. I discussed him with ‘the man’, who enthused about Bobo; his play, his attitude, the fact that he signed his last contract for less money than Middlesbrough had offered, but..
Sentimentality is a curse to the truly ambitious; it is time to move on.
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Maybe we do all take pre season friendlies a bit too seriously. I was as pleased as anyone at the performance against QPR, but we need to balance that against the two losses.
But what have we really learned? That Scott Brown is a good signing and could become a great one? That Stephen Pressley is past his best? That we need cover for our two starting full backs? That Jarosek and Hartley are not wide players? That our big centre forward plays best when we have genuine wide players to supply him? Frankly, nothing that we didn't already know.
Why don't we just accept that the results so far, and Newcastle, Parma, etc., will have no great bearing on the real games to come? Let's just hope that we get the fitness levels up and don't pick up any serious injuries. After all, that's what pre-season is far.
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the right rev
I agree with all you say especially about the two players we signed from Hearts.
Both are not Celtic Class and have no resale value...ok we got pressley free but he costs in wages.
I also beleive we are the best in the country , but Smith will have his team better prepared for the rigours of the SPL and especailly for the physical games against us.
Our main problem is that all the players you quoted yes should be shipped out but who will take them and will they go?
I beleive alot of them are happy here and that Strachan has more or less assured some of them that they are big players for us..Pressley , Hartley etc..
So now we have to trust the wee man and hope he gets it right..
I have my doubts..and hope they are wrong
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Bobo Balde's best days are behind him and I think that it would be best for him and the club that he was moved on. He could probably do with the new challenge and get the most out of his career before it comes round to retirement-time.
However, when it comes to questioning his wages I think we should not forget that he was the beneficiary of reckless decision-making by O'Neill. I don't think anyone here would feel guilty if we were offered a walloping great wage rise with some juicy terms from our employers, I don't see why Bobo should be any different. Could we have less of the sanctimonious, hypocritical nonsense about his wages please? If you want someone to blame about Bobo's wages, blame O'Neill.
I would have Pressley in the team any time before McManus. McManus aka Scottish John Terry is an embarassment and the sooner he disappears from the side the better. I have no desire to see the 21st century equivalent of Jonathan Gould (the Scottish Sun's friend!) playing for, far less being the footballing spokesman for the club. His distribution is woeful, his technique is atrocious and I would rather have anyone of 5 other players as captain before him.
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Rangers "victims of massive transfer fraud".
Police raids carried out on two top flight football clubs and Rangers F.C. sparked a frenzy of speculation this afternoon. It was initially believed that the raids, which were carried out at the request of the City of London Police force's Economic Crime Squad, were related to the Stevens investigation into corrupt transfer dealings. However, police sources this evening revealed that at least one of the clubs, Rangers, are believed to be the victims of a crime rather than the perpetrators.
It is believed that the police investigation is centring on the transfer of Filip Sebo, who arrived at Ibrox in a £2m transfer from Austria Vienna in July 2006. "We believe that Rangers have been defrauded on a massive scale", a source close to the investigation commented this evening. "Filip Sebo isn't fit for purpose. Whoever sold him to Rangers is clearly a con-man, and a good one at that."
Police removed twelve boxes of material from Rangers stadium Ibrox Park earlier today. it is being widely reported that they contained DVDs of last season's fixtures, which the police consider to be "damning evidence". "All you need to do is watch a couple of these games," our source revealed, "and it becomes painfully clear that whoever the mysterious Mr. Sebo actually is, he's not a professional footballer."
Police sources refuse to confirm or deny that the parents of an educationally subnormal Slovakian goatherd, missing since last May, have claimed that Sebo is their son. Investigations into both cases remain ongoing
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Were there an 'tache's on display in last night's friendly?
Looking for a favour from any of our State-siders. Apparently Pepsi are producing cans commemorating the game last night with the two team badges on it. Would anyone like to purchase one and mail over to Scotchland? Fully cost reimburseable + a fee for yr troubles.
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Paul
Are you going to set up a link and details of code to toonbarmy's CQN Fantasy Football League for all budding "managers", I use that term loosely :o)
Anyone interested?
SERIE CQN FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUE
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TuttiFrutti
Cant say i agree with you regarding Elvis being in the team before McManus. But i do agree that McManus is pretty poor.
I think O'dea looks a class act, and really dont want any of these two guys holding back his progress.
It would actually be good to have a center half in the team who could actually win a header!! O'dea, don't quote me looks smaller than Mcmanus, but wins most of his ariel battle's. His distribution looks class, and is an organiser. I dont think Mcmanus is anything like captain material, but then i also don't know who is!!
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http://www.planetepsg.com/?page=news&id=7650
No direct quotes but he certainly fits our signing structure
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Absence,it would seem,makes the heart grow fonder.
Bobo,the best defender at the club.
Would this be the same Bobo who was being referred to,with increasing regularity,as "bombscare" when he last had a decent run in the team?
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Still watching last night's game. So far, Pressley has looked dreadful, so too Jarosik and Wilson. Brown has been anonymous, likewise JVOH. Boruc has been Boruc, sheer class. McManus looks lost without a class CH beside him (he was simply nowhere when Angel scored). Very worrying, because we seem to have no cohesion; no build up play at all. Our defending was shambolic, to say the least.
I know it's not going to happen but I would love if we could get rid of Pressley, Hartley, Gravesen, Miller, Bobo and Jarosik (who seems to me to have no heart). I don't think any of them will contribute significantly to the team and Bobo might be our best defender but his day has long gone.
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Scary thought but is it possible that Bobo isn’t very good but he’s the best defender we have ?
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There's a couple of clips of BMendy on YouTube.In one it looks as if he's on the French version of Soccer-AM,in another he's skinning wee Roberto Carlos for pace
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A quick warning on season ticket renewals, guys.
I was looking at a bank statement and happened to notice that the money for my renewal hadn't come out. I phoned the ticket office and was told they didn't receive the form I sent in weeks ago. I managed to renew over the phone (front row of the upper teir in 414). Just as well...
So I would give a quick check to make sure that the money has been taken. It could just be an isolated incident, but I don't trust the post!
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If we played the MLS team in January, at Cetic Park on a Scottish winter's day, what would be the result?
(Remember, this would be their pre-season...)
I'd go for 4-1 to the Bhoys.
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Antibes (11.38)
Surely Bobo would have replaced BOTH our starting centrebacks by that point, so the defence would be water tight, although JVoH would have picked up an injury and Mr Strachan would be forced to play with our two top strikers out of position - ie Jiri in an unfamiliar role as main attacker and KM in an unfamiliar role on the park!!! :)
G.
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My only gripe about last night was that a few players who I hope have no future at Celtic got a game.
Pressley, Jarosik, Gravesen and Hartley all played a part. Why?
I would rather see us play Bjarnason,O'Dea or Kennedy or our trialist.
Why persevere with players the manager doesn't rate.
Players with no long term future have to have their expectations managed.
We have half a team of underperformers from last season.
Pressley,Caldwell,Hartley,Jarosik,Gravesen,Zurawsk would be away for any decent offer.
My fear apart from the wages being paid, is the slant the media will put to this.
We have already seen Miller and Riordan last season moan theur way to a game through the press.
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Lostrambling
Why persevere with players the manager doesn't rate?
Therein lies the problem.
Strachan clearly does rate these players. Judgement like this he will have to address is he wants to keep succeeding as Celtic Manager
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Paul 67 and kano
Yes i agree bobo has faults but in the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king.
Only my opinion as i stated but i just do not rate mcmanus and caldwell. Pressley is a given i think. Might be hard to find anyone that rates him.
Bambi no worries i agree of course the CL qualifier is the big test. Re newcastle I just love us beating english opposition
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Bobo may or may not be our best defender,although he clearly is the best in the air.Given that he might be part of our best defensive PARTNERSHIP,played alongside a more cultured central defender.He had a very effective partnership with JK before injury split them up.
Last season our best pairing was SMCM and DO'D,but there seems to be a continuing reluctance to play them together.
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gweedorebhoy
I'm afraid I agree with you on Bobo.
Although I do not rate him highly,I would rather see him line up against Rangers than Pressley or Caldwell.
I honestly see no point in keeping players who add nothing except numbers to a squad.
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Dontbratt...
In the days when fitness wasn't as big a thing in football I think the beatings handed out to smaller teams were a good thing. I just don't see what good it would do us now, the guys we would play would be unfit, and no stretch to our Bhoys at all. I can only equate it to when I played and we took on Whitehill Welfare in our pre-season, the same season they played Celtic at Easter Road, they leathered us but we were run into the ground and there was no hiding place, we also played a few lesser amateur teams and strolled around for a bit and scored a few goals. I know which one meant more to me in terms of my fitness.
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Gweedorebhoy,
I think this must be the first time we've agreed on anything..;0)
If there's any truth in the Mendy rumour then we'd be getting a good player in my opinion, I remeber him on loan at Bolton and I thought he was superb. Fit and fast and not a bad attacking defender. I don't know how his form has been with PSG but to be honest that place is a bit of a graveyard for players, lots of good players have gone there, been poor and then succededed at other clubs.
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new article posted.
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DBBIA, I don't agree that McManus and O'Dea looked our best partnership last year, while they did well at the San Siro, the two left footers never looked that comfortable together.
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JackD @11.10 LMAO You had me going at the start of that one :-)
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The U2 soundcheck comment was a class comment. Spot on.
Bobo is our best defender (imho) but Strachan is looking for a CB that can play the ball out intelligently and safely. That Mc Manus and Pressley are being entrusted with this duty without Lennon´s cover is a worry. Especially as the weak sided are of the defense (right back) has to be covered by slow Stephen Pressley. I also think that somebody has to pull Pressley aside and hammer into him to play the game and forget about his inept attempts at influencing officials.He has a penchant for that and it´s a sign for any player that the game is up. Actually I wake up screaming in the middle of the night in a cold sweat over that one - regularly!!
I think it´s important that Strachan gets a consistent defence. First 5 names on the team sheet every week. No tinkering there please. We have a plethora (my english teacher will be well pleased) of centre backs, strikers, midfielders and a dearth of full backs and wingers.
I know it´s against the Strachan philosphy but he has a perfect squad for a 3-5-2 formation. Naylor would be sacrificed though and that is patently not fair.
So if their still is to be a WAO signing then it has to be either a right full back or a forward. My head says full back but my heart says striker.
My only wish for this season is for the football to be more dynamic and entertaining. Not in America but on a cold December Saturday at Parkhead oooohh and for us to draw Prague in the CL pre-qaulifiers.
Hail Hail
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Despite what I've said about Balde, he might be handy for the Old Firm games. Walter Smith is being far from subtle in his approach... he's signing big bruisers. Has anyone seen pictures of that Darcheville one? He is short, I know, but he looks as broad as a bus! I fear he may just run right over wee O'Dea. Perhaps big Bobo would be a good utility man, lest any teams should try and take liberties with some of our more refined players. As we found out under Tommy Burns, it can be difficult for players who want to play the cavalier game if that Govan crowd are intent on a hatchet job.
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Can we be successful without a "minder" type player?
Gone are Thompson, Sutton and Lennon.
Balde wasn't first choice last season because the Caldwell/McManus partnership worked until Caldwell got a serious injury. However as the squad of defenders stand as just can't see how we can do without him.
Rangers if nothing else will try to bully us off the park.
Can the present squad stand upto the type of tactics we all know Smith will employ.
Last night may have only been a friendly but it was a good excercise as it shows up our average players as just that.
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So not having seen Celtic play but having read lots of reports from all the sources available, but mostly here on CQN, I feel we need to cover two positions: we need a striker and a defender. I think EVERYONE sees this as a necessity to alleviate any lingering anguish that we may feel before endeavouring into the Champions League. In my opinion the present squad is strong enough to win the SPL. With that out the way, I am more concerned about Celtic’s performance and progress in the Champions League. However, if we come back to our striker/defender problem, it would appear too much to ask for Celtic to invest in two quality players to cover these positions. So we need to make a choice.
Much and all as I would really love to see a great striking partnership up front (which would bring us the necessary excitement and produce goals, which we all want to see, and win us matches even though we would leak more at the back), I feel we have to strengthen the defence. Since it is the Champions League that presents a concern, we should invest everything we can in the best defender that we can buy. Unfortunately I feel that Pressley shouldn’t be seen in the Champions League and could well be a liability to our progress. The defence is just an “I hope that Balde, Kennedy, MacMannus, Caldwell, Wilson become reliably good” strategy. Therefore, if we invested in another player, namely a defender, I would sleep soundly. I believe that a defender is what we need more than anything else.
A defender, a defender, defo a defender.
Hail Hail
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Ghuys/Ghirls
Anyone know if the game is being shown on TV or web stream Sun/Mon ?.
