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Paul67
Early time for a new article.
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dangerous having an asset playing so well in a shop window
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Sell TG!
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grrrrrr!!!
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posted from last thread...
whooosh>Yo! peeps... what gives??
is it just me or are things too quiet on several fronts?
seismic 'dignified'silence from FC bung....
will we get a right wing back before the newcastle game?
IMHO the starting X1 wont be known until nearer resumtion of hostilities..... some more fine tuning reqired....
sdstim> good on ya...i will be here or hereabouts..i am building a gazebo out the back today....need my superstrength rivet gun and welding kit ready ;-)
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Pity we couldn't have put TG & JJ in a shop window. It's where you normally find dummies :-)
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From previous post TMC
No one is untouchable in football.
This is an emotional and financial business.
Strachan has three main hurdles to overcome.
1. If we did not qualify for the CL I believe his "untouchability" as you call it would help him. He would however be damaged goods
2. We should beat the rest of the dross quite easily it's the huns i'm worried about. If the Cardigan beats us in the October showdown, once again "untochability helps" but the taxi is turning on the engine.
3. The fact is if we lose the league strachan goes. He either walks or is sacked. That's old firm life. Harsh and perhaps unfair.
I personally believe non of the above will happen but the fact is strachan is tolerated not loved but a large section of the support and sadly (and I mean this) many are waiting for a sniff of blood to pounce.
So in conclusion no one in football is really that untouchable (well ok MON was) even our revered naka who if the price is right will be out of paradise faster than an ice cream van in govan.
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Danny> lol, a reminder of that bad 80's movie mannequin...when the female dummy comes alive.....
unfortunately the bits when the dummy was displayed in its glory it was anatomically incorrect....
parts were missing but then i think i overlooked the point of the film...
Yo! paul...exciting times for naka...however i think this thread will have a shortish lifespan...
i can feel it in my water that something will happen soon on other events....
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I am reposting this from the end of the last thread. Please scroll by if you read, or if that's what you normally do with one of mine.
pgg tips
good reply.
The cry has been going up for some time now- "He's rubbish! Just punt him!"
We have posters on here who wanted Beattie and Pearson freed, Maloney let go, and Petrov sold for a fiver. As fans, we have the luxury of not having to think in the round. Our club custodians have to do better than that.
If you put a player on the transfer list, is there not a possibility that you are putting yourself on the back foot in future negotiation? You are signalling that you do not rate this player and that you'll accept any low offers. Cue a derisory bid on the never never from the direction of govan.
Could it also be that there are contract clauses which disadvantage the club if they are the ones putting the player up for sale rather than the player requesting a transfer? I have no inside info that this is the case, I am just speculating.
In any case, there needs to be a willing buyer before there is a sale and there needs to be a player willing to go.
The fact that Balde, Jarosik, Gravesen, Miller, Zurawski etc; are not agitating for a transfer could mean:-
We are paying them too much and can't get others to pay this (unlikely in the current mad climate at English clubs, I would have thought)
They are proud to be at Celtic and want to stay and prove themselves.
They want to leave but are hoping the club will sell them cheaply if they continue to train and play badly.
A quiet agreement has been reached by player and club to seek a mutually suitable transfer and quiet negotiations are being carried out under the radar of press and fans.
All possibilities. I don't know which is true. Do you? Does Zamasbhoy?
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come on aldo spill the beans what's gonna happen.
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gweedore> i just feel things are too quiet...
we have 2 big preseason games against newcastle and parma and these games are needed to fine tune the team...or introduce new player... hmm
FC bung have been strangely quiet and the naismith saga is taking up valuable back page space.....
allowing celtic to work hard in the background to move on players or make a new signing?
i have a tupperware ' no-spill' baked bean dish...it comes in usefull for moments like these
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gweedorebhoy,
It is not a fact of life that losing a league means a Celtic manager has to go. MON lost 2 and, though he walked after the second, he could have survived should he have wanted too.
Big Jock lost championships and survived.
Your point does have an element of truth in that a sizeable section of our support will want him removed if we were to lose this league. I can understand their frustration as I believe we should win this league, even with a lesser manager than WGS. But I would still expect that there should be a bit of leeway for a manager who wins 2 out of 3 attempts, not a bad ratio historically, as it happens.
That there won't be such leeway disappoints me. I suspect that winning three in a row would still leave WGS "on probation" with this section of fans as anything short of a Uefa final or CL last 16 will be counted as going backwards.
I hope for the best. I believe we will win the league but think we will be odds against to reach CL last 16 again.
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Paul,
I see somebody stole your idea for Celtic to usurp Leeds.
Celtic to take over Leeds
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Setting free the bears I alluded to the fact in my post
That was big Jock and Mon. managers who
1. one came from a different age
2. Achived a symbotic relationship with the support
My point is strachan is not perceived in the same way and if he fails he has no emotional currency in the bank.
I agree the league is only there to be lost. The huns whilst not as bad as many think will be a harder challange but we should prevail.
Personally I think we will win the league and a cup whilst reaching the group stages of the CL.
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Gweedorebhoy
I meant 'untouchable' in reference to pggtips saying 'before he is punted himself' which I think, in reference to our manager is too crazy to even consider. Of course anything can happen and he could be gone by christmas but right now, he's as untouchable as any manager in the world.
Your sniff of blood comment is very close to how I feel right now in that I think our own fans may be as much of an opponent as Walter this year. Maybe not deliberately but there is an obstacle there, hopefully Donati and Brown can go along way to removing it!
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SFTB,
Good comments from you on the Zamasbhoy stuff. I started to read the article ,but got bogged down in the maybes, what ifs, hint hint and all the other components of a flawed hypothesis.
Not one verifiable fact in the piece and if that was not enough, to then have someone post it and second the motion, beggars belief.
Keep it up, my boy. You are one of the voices of reason, truth and justice on this site. Where is Alexandra Bastedo when you need her.
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thismancraig
I would say that both sides have points. It is apparent that the defence needs looked at. My view is that strachan could go a long way to winning people over by punting pressley and buying in a new CH and some full backs.
In midfield donati and brown could be a very special. Up front JVOH and someone could be similar.
At the back is where the problem lies.
Other than that people should have little issues with strachan
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Symbiosis >is a close ecological relationship between the individuals of two (or more) different species. Sometimes a symbiotic relationship benefits both species, sometimes one species benefits at the other's expense, and in other cases neither species benefits.
online med dictionary..
i can understand jock being 'different' but MON wasnt...
mutualistic perhaps....or commensalistic..
well in true central scotland fashion it is now raining and the construction work in the garden is on hold...
lesson 1 ..never attempt to build a tall construction with a moany 10 yr old dragged out of bed to help..in the rain....
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Aldo
you got mail
Cheers
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Tom the Tim
Befor I head out, I thought I'd make some happy men feel very, very old.
for an aul lech
I think it's Alexandra Bastedo though she looks a wee bit like Alicia Silverstone.
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sdstim> cheers....
SFTB>
for an ould hand...
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Paul 67
Do you honestly feel that a franchise in the USA is a better option than the low cost purchase of an English League side?
Football in England is a mature market where the potential is limitless whilst it is for me largely unproven that football of the round ball variety in the USA will ever produce the potential of comparable profit or opportunity for Celtic. But then I do have a vested interest and no knowledge of the comparative costs:>) I just feel that we might find the management of a franchise at that distance taxing both financially and practically.
Your comments re Naka perhaps suggest where investment may bring greater reward though the quoted figure re sales of Beckham shirts do give pause for thought?
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aldo
MON admitted that being celtic manager helped him through some dark times.
He also admitted whilst a celtic fan he never understood until it happened the enormity of being celtic manager in such a small country with such a global brand.
Anyway good luck with the building
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I am getting really tired of the Strachan bashers.
We are twice Champions. We have a squad that while a bit large at the moment will comfortably win the league this season.
Exciting new faces, a few players to move on, and a champions league to look forward to with the right draw and attitude from the players and THE FANS.
Winning the league this year gives us automatic league stages next CL.
We have money for new faces, we will have even more money if a few of the frequently mentioned move on.
Just spare a thought for our neighbours, scrimping and scrapping for Bosmans while waiting for the enquiry into dodgy dealings to unfurl, Trust me this is all that will unfurl at Mordor this season.
I confidently predict WGS will see out The cardigan and his replacement.
Settle in Bhoys Strachan will be a succesful servant of Celtic for a few years yet.
Kittoch.
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While this transfer window has been a marked improvement on the purchases front, I really hope that we are now focusing on the sales side. I don't think we'll see Balde, TG, JJ contribute anything this season. That must be about £100K/week that we should put into players who can do a job for us.
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gweedore> yep i remember that..
anyone who took over from the 'dream team' of barnes/dalgleish would improve our standing...
i also remember the crap from the lazy journalists and gullible fans when Dr. Joe took over as manager and signed 'lubo'...
i can imagine as a celtic fan the enormity of the task in managing the team...thats where yer backroom staff come in...
building work is suspended due to weather....tea break time after 5 mins work!!!
kittoch> i hope so.... gordon strachan must put up with a lot of doubters...sometimes fans dont look at the big picture tho...
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Kittoch
I believe Gordon Strachan will leave at the end of this season irrespective of how the club performs.
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Aldo and some (Not I Caeser) May suggest just a touch parasitic.
Sacre vert! Sacrilege!!
Anyway .....
For those who didn't ask any questions, here are the answers to those pregnat questions you wanted answers to but were too afraid to ask.
1. Season tickets still available around the ground in singles and occasional twos.
2. Last batch of cards sent out last night. If you don't receive it by tomorrow get along to office with ID and they will issue hardcopy ticket for the Parma match. If you can't make office then phone in and they will get the ticket ready for for pick-up on Sunday.
3. No queues today so phone should be answered quite quickly - T.O. statement, not mine!
4. If you've lost all your trading points off your card (a la moi) you need to re-register the bar code online at the fishal site. Points from last year will then be transferred. (I haven't done this yet so it is as yet unconfirmed).
5. Superstore opens at 7.00am tomorrow for new away shirt, so you can supplement the meagre club coffers before you go to work or jaunt off down to Geordieland.
6. Ticket office now showing recording from secret camera deep in mineshaft, of strange burrowing creatures heading in direction of Clyde. Sweepstake in play on when the breakthrough will come! Tickets for spectacular are running out fast!
7 GS signs new 50 year contract. Pggtips put that noose away....just jesting! (it was only 25!)
Hail hail
Estadio
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Estadio> you are correct..hmm parasitic indeed...
answer no:6> is it a seasonal migration similar to lemmings or is it just a bit of muck on the lens....
burrowing creatures...hmm parasitic or commensalistic
did ye manage a drift into the international or neesons?
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Yo
EDB.
I will call you tonight at 6.00ish.
Anyway I think the GS departure at the end of the season is a bit problematic.
He is on a 1 year rolling contract, therefore he would either have had to have already handed his notice in or run the gauntlet of whatever he has achieved being totally devalued by leaving Celtic in the lurch with no successor in train.
If he has handed in his notice, and remembering that PL's contract also expires next summer then I think that the spiders web of rumours and hints would already be approaching red-hot.
I have absolutely no evidence to back up my view other than that the man himself said that he wanted to build something special here and was in it for the long term.
I accept that circumstances might change, but he is a necessarily stubborn individual.
The only circumstances I can see him leaving are:
1. An abject (and it would have to be abject) surrender of our seemingly dominant position.- unlikely!
2. A club that could feed his ambition even more than Celtic comes in for him - possibility
3. He goes having achieved what he set out to achieve - probably 2-3 years away.
As I say, I am only guessing.
Do you realise that the sad jingle and even sadder phrase from the Bangles' Eternal Flame, just came to mind.
'Am I only dreaming'!
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Alexandra Bastedo graces the cover of the aptly titled Smiths record'Rank'.
I've seen Farsley Celtic in action,when Gretna were playing English non-League football.Hoopslegend John Halpin was playing for Gretna,and doing what he did best-run very fast down the touchline before disappearing over the byline.
To risk MurrayWalker type ridicule-unless I am very much mistaken I would say JH is the only player to have played for the Grets,and the Celts.
Disappointingly Farsley wore blue,rather than the Hoops.Good luck to them in their takeover.
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PS Have I missed something?
Any particular reason why El Gordo's jacket should be on a shoogly peg this morning?
PPS Paul67-could/should Celtic have gone east,rather than west,this close season?
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'Victory in Moscow' perfect time for Strachan to bow out a Celtic Legend. Luzhniki Stadium, scene of manager's final tactical switch...
I like it!
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from monthehoops...
'Celtic star Shunsuke Nakamura says special geranium baths to soften his skin have helped his play.'
my missus uses avon 'skin so soft' with geranium and citronella..
does she go and play in the asia cup?
not a chance...
DBBIA> Yo! no reason...just various posters switching targets from aiden :-)
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EDB
I had the good fortune of being at a fund raiser with both WGS and King Kenny. WGS is well aware of how it all transpired with Kenny and knows how ficle a support can be. He did say that The Celtic Support is no way near as ficle as others.
He loves the club and loves to win things for as he puts it "The Supporters" and will be here as long as he can win things for the supporters.
As far as I can see we will be winning things for a long time to come. G.O.D.
KittochWhosIsHappyHeIsHere.
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Estadio,
Cheers for the info. My renewal form said my ticket would be renewed automatically, I sent it away anyway.
The deposit has come out of my account.
I though I could just use last year's card- ie there would be no "sending out" of books as in the old days.
Am I wrong?
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Kittoch,
I'll be happy to be proven wrong.
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Paul
I detect a degree of selfishness in your thread leader. I understand your sentiments but I cannot condone them. Though a large part of me agrees with you.
If we can’t beat Kilmarnock at home in our opening game and get a decent result in our European opener without the services of one Shunsuke, then Paul, we really are in trouble.
As stated previously, I hope the man goes on to score the screamer that wins Japan the cup.
He deserves it and so do Japan. Believe me.
All the accolades that will rain down, I would grin with pride, For Shunsuke, for Japan and lastly for Celtic.
Like Henrick before him, the man has ethics and integrity and we are so lucky to have him as a player. The financial benefits to Celtic from his presence are nice but to me, secondary.
I hope Japan win tonight, and win well and I hope the final is live and I get to support Shunsuke from my front room couch.
If they go on to win the final, I will celebrate like I do a Celtic win. With a smile and a whiskey. And to the press whores, a,’ pog mo toin’, then GIRUY.
That would be nice.
Let his mates take care of Celtic business while he celebrates the glory, he has so hard, strived to achieve.
Then we will really sell some shirts.
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I thought it was gerManium,rather than geranium!
Should be safe as long as he doesn't drink it.
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ItaliaBhoy-hold onto your TimCard-you'll use it this year as well.
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Friends,
There is a chance, a chance I say, that a snippet of one of my tunes will be played on Radio Scotland today, between 2 and 4.
Fingers crossed.
Also why the in depth on WGS leaving and succession planning?
I think he's here for a wee while longer...
I certainly hope he is and he merits that for his treatment of the press up here alone.
Go on Gordon.
u.
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dontbrattbakkinanger,
ta! timcard is ready to be dusted down for another year!
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Yeah,and it'll soon be time for the pre-season ritual of the Washing of the Scarf.
JCD seems to have a pretty short fuse.I can't see him getting through both Euro games without getting at least one red card.
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Ulysses McGhee
Are you Singer or a songwriter or both and do have a link?
Kittoch
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Italiabhoy.
Sorry I should have made that clear that new cards only went out for those who relocated, took a card for the first time, changed name or threw it in the bin.
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Ulysses,
Pardon my ignorance, but what are your tunes? What is your band called?
I'll listen out
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Also, Ulysses, do you have a myspace?
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Hi Folks,
sorry popped out there for some lemsips - no well me.
I am a singer songwriter and I have a myspace page at
www.myspace.com/garymillermusic
have put 4 new songs up, although with this cold my voice was not exactly perfect (Excuses, excuses...)
hope you enjoy.
u.
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Kano/M.Collins
Setanta
Newcastle game being shown live down here 4.45am EST kick off.
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estadio,
No problem. I'm always slightly nervous of the TO saying that I will be renewed automatically. Feart that when I turn up each season someone else will be in my seat!
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Taken from KDS
It may not interest too many Celtic fans to know that we've a reserve friendly tonight against Airdrie. It's hardly headline news given that we're playing Newcastle on Thursday.
However, on further digging, the Airdrie website has some potentially significant details to add.
The Celtic squad will include Balde, Gravesen, Riordan, Killen, O'Brien, Caddis and Bjarnason.
While the match may be insignificant, the choice of players to go there is certainly worthy of discussion. I doubt any of this group has much of a chance of first team action other than Killen who needs the game and is filling a definite gap up front at reserve level.
any thoughts?
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EDB
I think the world will end - BUT I hope I am proved wrong !. Have you no got work to do ?.
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Rob
I'm relaxing for a few minutes.
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Kitalba - Thanks for the tip on Setanta.....will have to set the DVR.
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ML3 Police
Keeping crime and its profits off of the streets...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6915163.stm
This one is worth the watching.
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Hi spirit of arthur lee
I noticed the squad list this morning and mu first though was to whether any of these players would be whisked down to Tyneside after the match to join up with main squad tomorrow?
The other thought is that our manager perhaps wants as many players as possible to get game time ahead of the new season so he is splitting his squad this week. Still, the list of players would certainly coresspond with many a 'shoogly peg' suggestion for said players futures.
I would expect to see more clues in the squad for the Parma game this weekend. As it stands, the following players look likely to be in teh starting 11 for the beginning of the season:
Boruc - goes without saying
Wilson - Unless another RB is signed
Pressley - A lot of game and media time given to the old warrior
McManus - Certain starter.
Naylor - Certain starter
Brown - The main man for the season.
JVoH - The number one striker.
To my mind, getting the midfield and forward balance right in the first month will be causing our manager more concern than gettign the back 5 spot on.
Naka is tired, Hartley has experience but no form, Donnati is new, McGeady needs form, McDonald is banned, Zurawski is fading fast and Miller is not a certain scorer.
Add in the likes of Gravesen, Jarosik and Riordan then i think Gordon has plenty to keep him up at night!
For what it is worth, I think we might start the season with Hartley playing either centrally (bleeding in Donnati to the SPL) or wide right (giving Naka a rest).
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Spirit of Arthur Lee
Any thoughts? I think we are taking our association with Airdrie too far. Fair enough using their ground for reserve matches but playing the team whose fans are probably more bigotted than Ran666ers goes beyond a joke.
I knew a bhoy whom I played boys fitba in the late 70s who went on to have a decent career with Partick Thistle, Kilmarnock and Airdrie who also worked as a Theatre Nurse. His name was Campbell Kennedy and despite the name a Celtic man thru and thru. Anyway whilst playing for the Diamonds against I think Thistle he was the subject of the player profile. His mother had come to watch him in that game and wasn't surprised that he was getting "sheep sh....." shouted at him by the opposition but couldn't believe that the home fans were given him dogs abuse as well, including booing and "fenian bar steward". His crime...in the programme "Fav Other Team...Celtic" "Fav ever player...Jimmy Johnstone". His mother was proud.
On a less humourous note they had those nutters with the KKK outfits going to games last season.
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I'm just settling down to watch Japan and Saudi Arbia.
Anybody else?
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Arabia
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Poor we Naismith’s feelin down,
He wants a move tae Govan town,
But the huns are skint, nae dosh around,
Tae buy young Steven Naismith.
His maw has sent him tae his bed,
Tae rest his loupin hurtin head,
Cos the golden goose’s been shot dead,
Aw sick wee Steven Naismith,
But wait a mo’, for helps at hand,
From DJ and his media band
Decryin’ Killie’s stubborn stand,
They’ll save their Steven Naismith
They’ve got a hat and begged some coin,
So that Naiser soon can join
His mates wae tattoos o’ the Boyne,
That’s marchin’ Steven Naismith.
While Steven picks his nervous rash,
And Boydy pawns his faither’s sash,
The buns start countin a’ their cash,
They’ll soon get Brither Naismith.
But Killie feel that forty quid,
Two auld boots and wan bin lid
Paid o’er three years, is still nae guid
Enough for stricken Naismith.
We’ve got a better offer frae
A club doon bye Auld Reekie way,
Yer provy cheque jist willna dae
Tae get yer pining Naismith.
The Huns convene an urgent meet,
And Minty states he’ll no be beat,
By those renowned for their left feet,
Who’d steal their right-foot Naismith.
A cunning plan is hatched that night
To bring to bear Sir David’s might
And scatter to the left and right
Those papists after Naismith.
He gets Grant-Thornton on the phone,
When Bain the man of orangey tone,
Suggests they organise a loan,
To pay for blue-boy Naismith.
“Ye’ll have to rob a flippen bank
Yer credit ratings touchin ‘rank’
Yer Gambling plan has even sank
Ye’ve had yer chips wae Naismith”
Then Murray wae that look that kills,
Suggests the cure for a’ their ills,
A print run o’ their own forged bills,
Will pay for precious Naismith.
The Lettraset frae Murray’s mint,
Soon printed tangerine of tint,
The wherewithal to buy that bint,
Whose given name was Naismith.
Now Naisy hearing of the news,
Cast off his fevered draining blues,
Brown brogues he’d wear instead of shoes,
That wee apprentice Naismith.
So then in glee frae underneath,
The sheets he goes tae brush his teeth,
Nae chance they’d sell him doon tae Leith,
He’s Rangers bound is Naismith.
But acts involving subterfuge,
Are jist like women caked wae rouge,
A blemish small, grows sudden huge,
When daylight dawns on Naismith
For things went wrang cos life’s a beast,
Its never wan, but three at least
That spoilt the celebration feast,
For the Prodigal called Naismith
Inspector plod his breakfast munchin’,
Strode up to Ibrox wae his truncheon,
And caught the crooked drunken bunch on
The floor from toastin’ Naismith
As Summer light turned winter dark
And Ayreshire donned its Cutty Sark
The huns surrendered Murray park
As a fine fur connin’ Naismith!
But what then passed was less than nice
For seeing Naisy’s plans hit ice
Our Peter snapped up at half price
That blessed convert Naismith.
This tale is not told to amuse
Or tease and tempt dismissive views
It’s but a rhyme that shouts ‘J’accuse’
At Murray, Bain and Grey Smith!
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Kittoch, on a tight schedule today.
STBF, an excellent idea.
Derbyshirebhoy, a ‘franchise’ in England would only have merit as a tactical move to force through some change. I am for it, as I believe no stone should be left unturned, but it will cost, not make money in the short term.
A franchise in the US would make money. We already have an infrastructure in place for football coaching and development, a relationship with Nike and Coors and a corporate management team who have met most of their immediate goals and will be looking for the next project soon.
Stuart, the sales side has been active since March. I don’t expect much to happen until late August; remember how TG handled his Madrid exit.
Dontbrattback, Japan was not an option this season due to the Asian Cup and our CL qualifiers. Otherwise we would have been there.
Kitalba, yes, Celtic’s (self) interest to the fore.
I’m away back to read Estadio’s prose.
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Ulysses McGhee
Could this explain why Kilmarnock are now expecting a new bid?
:-)
DMsfriendsareeverywhere
John Clark.
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15 minutes 0-0 still, Japn with 74% posession but not many chances.
Naka playing some nice passes.
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Kitalba,
I will be going against you on that one.
I hope Iraq(who have qualified on a penalty shoot out against Korea)win the tournament.
Agree,hope Naka scores a screamer,but hope it is a consolation,as Iraq take the cup 3-1.
Believe me, that country needs something like this.
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Great No.8
If Hartley is to find his form it will not be at right midfield. He needs to be central. If he is played out there in place of Naka then I will feel for him. I believe Hartley can and will come good.
Playing out wide was how he had 7-8 years of mediocrity. It was Big Starsky who changed him into a central mid for St. Johnstone and where he did exceptionally well foir Hearts.
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Estadio, love the poem!
But seriously, is Naysmith good enough or do we have sufficient of his type already? Or is it good sense to buy him just to stop him joining the other lot. And giving them a massive GIRUY of course.
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I have a sneaky feeling that the offer coming to Killie is from the Hibbies. But, I could well be wrong. They have not really spent any of the money that they have brought in since January and have lost a number of players. He would be able to fit in nicely to the style being pushed by John Collins.
If it is not Hibs, then it is an English side.
I, personally, do not see the need for him at the club.
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JohnnyMac,
I 'd be amazed if Hibs were to offer anything like that for a player, I really can't see them being the bidder. Hearts possibly would offer that as a GIRUY to Insolvency FC but again I can't see Vlad spending anything like that on a player.
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Gordon_J
I rate him highly, but I also rate those we have highly as well and I think they should get their chance.
Our motivation, fun as it may be to speculate, should not be to corner the market to simply squeeze out Rangers.
Respect in the game is hard won and easily lost.(Dignity is even more easily lost)
I still think (nothing other than gut feel) he will be at Ibrox before the window closes.
Hail hail
Estadio
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Saudi Arabia score. Japan being very cautious, as they were agaisnt Australia. It could cost them.
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And as they did against Australia, they go up the park and equalise. Nakazawa header from an Endo corner.
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Hi Steelica
I agree, I think Hartley is better in a central role but both the national team manager and Gordon have beem happy to push him wide when required.
I think we will see 5 different midfield combinations in the first 5 games of the season. It will take time before we settle down to some consistancy. Harltey and Brown's versatility may work agaisnt them in that they will be used to cover holes rather than given time to cement the middle.
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1-1 half time. Nothing special from Shunsuke, but nobody's kicked him yet either. So that's OK.
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RE Hoops v Diamond Dogs-if,and it's only a suggestion,the big picture is to take some of the big earners off the payroll,then shouldn't we be giving the likes of TG and BB gametime against bigger teams from the richer leagues?
As for me,I'd like to see how BB copes with Martens as practice for upcoming jousts with JCD,whose favourite footballer is Sonny Liston.
I used to relish the prospect of seeing the Pondlife bounce off the likes of BB,CRS,HL,JM and wee Johnny Hartson.
They really dislike being seen as physically weaker than us.They almost expect us to play the better football,but their belief is that the beautiful game is best played with the subtlety of a wrecking ball cracking a walnut.
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2-1 for Saudi Arabia.
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2-2
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3-2 for the Saudis. Stunning goal.
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ChenSB-doesn't sound like much of a game,then?
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Kano, on Iraq winning the Asian Cup:
I remember watching them get to the semi final at the 2004 Olympics, what a great achievement, I was delighted.
However, don’t get me started on football and nationalism. I have a theory that the Balkan wars stated with the rise of Serb nationalism following Red Star’s European Cup victory. They won the Cup in May 1991, within a month hostilities had started.
Every country on the globe would experience a rise of nationalism after winning a tournament like this, I am not sure what this would do to Iraq.
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Following on from Glen Johnson's arrest for nicking a toilet seat from B&Q, if you need, a limo, ask these guys
chennai
how does nakazawa look? centre-back?
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Is Warren Barton related to Mad Joey?
P67-There was a recent article in WSC about the final seasons in the old Yugoslavian leagues.I think in the very last season every game had to go to a penalty shootout,ie there could be no draws.
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Bloke
Yes Nakazawa's a central defender. Big strong fella, very aggressive in the box for his goal.
Saudi Arabia have had a bit of success driving at the centre of the defence though. Not sure if it was him the guy who scored the third goal took on in the box.
Judgement reserved.
dbbia
Well, it's better than watching the cricket reruns.
Japan just hit the bar from 30 yards.
I've got to go out soon.
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Paul et al,
Is it possible under FIFA/UEFA Regs for a club to own another club in another league? I am thinking about the feasibility of buying Leeds. If it is possible, does the international franchising of Celtic have implications for the major shareholder(s) of Celtic? In particular, can an individual be the major shareholder in more than one club? I can see potential conflict of interest issues here--of course, being Canadian (now, I always see potential conflict of interest issues!
Rebus
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Farsley Celtic's new away strip isn't bad.
Farsley Celtic
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It's all over. Shunske's coming home.
Best semi final of a major competition I can remember.
Should be an interesting final, although my money would be on the Saudis.
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chennaiseabird
There's a 3rd/4th play off this weekend !
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Awe Naw...
Don't know where you'll be, or even if you've left yet, but this place seems decent enough and not too far from Central London either.
Spirit of 67
It has the added advantage of being nearby to Abbey Road of Beatles fame, if you fancy a bit of sightseeing and Zebra-crossing too...
Good Luck! Mike
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I do not think there is any issue with ownership in different leagues (see Abramovich with Chelski and thon Russian side, Mad Vlad with Kaunus and Hearts, . The only issue would arise if they ended up playing against each other in a competative match.
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Rebus, good question. It is possible for an individual to own two clubs in different countries who do not compete internationally (Hearts, Kaunus), but I am not sure if the club itself can own another club, though I am beginning to think we ‘own’ Rangers.
Celtic could potentially licence their brand to a US club, or the PLC could also invest in an intermediary who could own another club. One for the lawyers.
Hugh, thanks for the updates from the Asian Cup. Pity for Naka, but I would be happy to see him pull out of the play-off game with a sore elbow.
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Paul67
Korea-Japan the biggest game of the tournament !
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Paul,the place is already split,not only down ethnic lines but religious and political lines too.
Maybe a wee celebration as a nation may deflect attention away from their far bigger problems.
And who knows? Could even lessen the splits which are occurring at the moment.
And,if nothing else,it would bring a smile,if only for a short time,to several million paople,who really need a break.
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diggy
I dont think it's a coincidence that Farsley have chosen green & white hoops for their away strip.
They;re probably thinking that some Hoops fans might purchase a wee top or two.
Then again,i may be wrong & that is their normal away strip.
Hail Hail
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Paul, I didn't think it was possible for an individual/ company to own or have a controlling interest in two clubs if they run a chance of playing each other. That would create a conflict of interest.
AFAIK, Abramovich owns Chelsea, while his company sponsors a Russian side. Similarly Mad Vlad owns Hearts while his bank sponsors Kaunus.
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Gordon,
It is my understanding that he has controlling interest in Hearts, Kaunas in Lithuania and FC MTZ-RIPO in Belarus.
Did you know, he also owns the K-19 submarine...He served on it when he was a consctipt in the Russian Navy.
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Thanks for the responses on the ownership issues across leagues. There are some cases that could be studied --- Hearts/Kaunus and the Chelski example, plus Chivas in the US and Mexico.
On the feasibility of buying Leeds in order to gain entry into the Championship and hence the EPL, if Celtic bought Leeds, there would be an issue of re-locating the enterprise to Glasgow. I assume Celtic would not wish to play out of the Leeds ground. I suspect that the Championship (or the FA?)would have to give approval for such a switch. I wonder if there are regs that specify that all club grounds must be in England. Maybe not, given the Berwick example in the Scottish leagues?
This strategy would need a lot of background work (by lawyers) and contains many uncertainties that could prove fatal to success.
On a side note, if it is feasible is there a cheaper option than Leeds?
Rebus
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It's my lunch break so I have time for another post.
Is Celtic a global brand? We can all believe it. Anyone see the celtic shirts in the HK audience for the Fulham vs Portsmouth game? Also, I was on vacation in Bergamo, Italy two weeks ago. Is that where Donati comes from? Anyway I saw several celtic shirts in the town. Similarly, on a day trip to Milan, I saw a sporting store that stocked the shirts. Finally, on the way home I visited Leicester and there are a good few folks wearing the colours there.
You only have to look at the global branding of "Ireland" to see the potential the Celtic brand, either through its Irish or Scottish expats.
Rebus
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Now if only Mad Vlad would try transferring K-19 to hearts. It has awesome firepower upfront and a watertight defence. It'd fit right in with its excellence in diving, and like some Jambos I know, It's full of seamen.
;-)
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Before they played at the Bernabeu Real Madrid played at the'Campo de O'donnell',suggesting they may be the second biggest club in the world with Irish roots;~)
A wee trawl through the Pyramid of English non-league football brings the comforting news that both Cleator Moor Celtic and West Allotment Celtic wear the Hoops as their first choice strip.
Farsley Celtic wear blue,but have a proper change kit.
Stalybridge Celtic wear blue as well,but the man who founded the club had blue racing colours for his horses as well.
DBBIA/Trinny and Susannah CSC
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Stuart
K9 would be better.
We could either go straight forward to 10 in a row, or go back and tell Bobo not to dive in in Seville.
Hail Hail
Estadio
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If you really want to make a difference, this is what you must do.
http://www1.talksport.net/index.asp?
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test
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Est-I've voted,though it took me a while to find it!
I thought you wanted us to listen to Ian Wright effing and blinding his way through his podcast.
I should cocoa!
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