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Paul67
Early time for a new article.
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dangerous having an asset playing so well in a shop window
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Sell TG!
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grrrrrr!!!
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posted from last thread...
whooosh>Yo! peeps... what gives??
is it just me or are things too quiet on several fronts?
seismic 'dignified'silence from FC bung....
will we get a right wing back before the newcastle game?
IMHO the starting X1 wont be known until nearer resumtion of hostilities..... some more fine tuning reqired....
sdstim> good on ya...i will be here or hereabouts..i am building a gazebo out the back today....need my superstrength rivet gun and welding kit ready ;-)
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Pity we couldn't have put TG & JJ in a shop window. It's where you normally find dummies :-)
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From previous post TMC
No one is untouchable in football.
This is an emotional and financial business.
Strachan has three main hurdles to overcome.
1. If we did not qualify for the CL I believe his "untouchability" as you call it would help him. He would however be damaged goods
2. We should beat the rest of the dross quite easily it's the huns i'm worried about. If the Cardigan beats us in the October showdown, once again "untochability helps" but the taxi is turning on the engine.
3. The fact is if we lose the league strachan goes. He either walks or is sacked. That's old firm life. Harsh and perhaps unfair.
I personally believe non of the above will happen but the fact is strachan is tolerated not loved but a large section of the support and sadly (and I mean this) many are waiting for a sniff of blood to pounce.
So in conclusion no one in football is really that untouchable (well ok MON was) even our revered naka who if the price is right will be out of paradise faster than an ice cream van in govan.
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Danny> lol, a reminder of that bad 80's movie mannequin...when the female dummy comes alive.....
unfortunately the bits when the dummy was displayed in its glory it was anatomically incorrect....
parts were missing but then i think i overlooked the point of the film...
Yo! paul...exciting times for naka...however i think this thread will have a shortish lifespan...
i can feel it in my water that something will happen soon on other events....
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I am reposting this from the end of the last thread. Please scroll by if you read, or if that's what you normally do with one of mine.
pgg tips
good reply.
The cry has been going up for some time now- "He's rubbish! Just punt him!"
We have posters on here who wanted Beattie and Pearson freed, Maloney let go, and Petrov sold for a fiver. As fans, we have the luxury of not having to think in the round. Our club custodians have to do better than that.
If you put a player on the transfer list, is there not a possibility that you are putting yourself on the back foot in future negotiation? You are signalling that you do not rate this player and that you'll accept any low offers. Cue a derisory bid on the never never from the direction of govan.
Could it also be that there are contract clauses which disadvantage the club if they are the ones putting the player up for sale rather than the player requesting a transfer? I have no inside info that this is the case, I am just speculating.
In any case, there needs to be a willing buyer before there is a sale and there needs to be a player willing to go.
The fact that Balde, Jarosik, Gravesen, Miller, Zurawski etc; are not agitating for a transfer could mean:-
We are paying them too much and can't get others to pay this (unlikely in the current mad climate at English clubs, I would have thought)
They are proud to be at Celtic and want to stay and prove themselves.
They want to leave but are hoping the club will sell them cheaply if they continue to train and play badly.
A quiet agreement has been reached by player and club to seek a mutually suitable transfer and quiet negotiations are being carried out under the radar of press and fans.
All possibilities. I don't know which is true. Do you? Does Zamasbhoy?
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come on aldo spill the beans what's gonna happen.
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gweedore> i just feel things are too quiet...
we have 2 big preseason games against newcastle and parma and these games are needed to fine tune the team...or introduce new player... hmm
FC bung have been strangely quiet and the naismith saga is taking up valuable back page space.....
allowing celtic to work hard in the background to move on players or make a new signing?
i have a tupperware ' no-spill' baked bean dish...it comes in usefull for moments like these
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gweedorebhoy,
It is not a fact of life that losing a league means a Celtic manager has to go. MON lost 2 and, though he walked after the second, he could have survived should he have wanted too.
Big Jock lost championships and survived.
Your point does have an element of truth in that a sizeable section of our support will want him removed if we were to lose this league. I can understand their frustration as I believe we should win this league, even with a lesser manager than WGS. But I would still expect that there should be a bit of leeway for a manager who wins 2 out of 3 attempts, not a bad ratio historically, as it happens.
That there won't be such leeway disappoints me. I suspect that winning three in a row would still leave WGS "on probation" with this section of fans as anything short of a Uefa final or CL last 16 will be counted as going backwards.
I hope for the best. I believe we will win the league but think we will be odds against to reach CL last 16 again.
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Paul,
I see somebody stole your idea for Celtic to usurp Leeds.
Celtic to take over Leeds
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Setting free the bears I alluded to the fact in my post
That was big Jock and Mon. managers who
1. one came from a different age
2. Achived a symbotic relationship with the support
My point is strachan is not perceived in the same way and if he fails he has no emotional currency in the bank.
I agree the league is only there to be lost. The huns whilst not as bad as many think will be a harder challange but we should prevail.
Personally I think we will win the league and a cup whilst reaching the group stages of the CL.
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Gweedorebhoy
I meant 'untouchable' in reference to pggtips saying 'before he is punted himself' which I think, in reference to our manager is too crazy to even consider. Of course anything can happen and he could be gone by christmas but right now, he's as untouchable as any manager in the world.
Your sniff of blood comment is very close to how I feel right now in that I think our own fans may be as much of an opponent as Walter this year. Maybe not deliberately but there is an obstacle there, hopefully Donati and Brown can go along way to removing it!
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SFTB,
Good comments from you on the Zamasbhoy stuff. I started to read the article ,but got bogged down in the maybes, what ifs, hint hint and all the other components of a flawed hypothesis.
Not one verifiable fact in the piece and if that was not enough, to then have someone post it and second the motion, beggars belief.
Keep it up, my boy. You are one of the voices of reason, truth and justice on this site. Where is Alexandra Bastedo when you need her.
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thismancraig
I would say that both sides have points. It is apparent that the defence needs looked at. My view is that strachan could go a long way to winning people over by punting pressley and buying in a new CH and some full backs.
In midfield donati and brown could be a very special. Up front JVOH and someone could be similar.
At the back is where the problem lies.
Other than that people should have little issues with strachan
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Symbiosis >is a close ecological relationship between the individuals of two (or more) different species. Sometimes a symbiotic relationship benefits both species, sometimes one species benefits at the other's expense, and in other cases neither species benefits.
online med dictionary..
i can understand jock being 'different' but MON wasnt...
mutualistic perhaps....or commensalistic..
well in true central scotland fashion it is now raining and the construction work in the garden is on hold...
lesson 1 ..never attempt to build a tall construction with a moany 10 yr old dragged out of bed to help..in the rain....
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Aldo
you got mail
Cheers
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Tom the Tim
Befor I head out, I thought I'd make some happy men feel very, very old.
for an aul lech
I think it's Alexandra Bastedo though she looks a wee bit like Alicia Silverstone.
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sdstim> cheers....
SFTB>
for an ould hand...
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Paul 67
Do you honestly feel that a franchise in the USA is a better option than the low cost purchase of an English League side?
Football in England is a mature market where the potential is limitless whilst it is for me largely unproven that football of the round ball variety in the USA will ever produce the potential of comparable profit or opportunity for Celtic. But then I do have a vested interest and no knowledge of the comparative costs:>) I just feel that we might find the management of a franchise at that distance taxing both financially and practically.
Your comments re Naka perhaps suggest where investment may bring greater reward though the quoted figure re sales of Beckham shirts do give pause for thought?
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aldo
MON admitted that being celtic manager helped him through some dark times.
He also admitted whilst a celtic fan he never understood until it happened the enormity of being celtic manager in such a small country with such a global brand.
Anyway good luck with the building
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I am getting really tired of the Strachan bashers.
We are twice Champions. We have a squad that while a bit large at the moment will comfortably win the league this season.
Exciting new faces, a few players to move on, and a champions league to look forward to with the right draw and attitude from the players and THE FANS.
Winning the league this year gives us automatic league stages next CL.
We have money for new faces, we will have even more money if a few of the frequently mentioned move on.
Just spare a thought for our neighbours, scrimping and scrapping for Bosmans while waiting for the enquiry into dodgy dealings to unfurl, Trust me this is all that will unfurl at Mordor this season.
I confidently predict WGS will see out The cardigan and his replacement.
Settle in Bhoys Strachan will be a succesful servant of Celtic for a few years yet.
Kittoch.
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While this transfer window has been a marked improvement on the purchases front, I really hope that we are now focusing on the sales side. I don't think we'll see Balde, TG, JJ contribute anything this season. That must be about £100K/week that we should put into players who can do a job for us.
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gweedore> yep i remember that..
anyone who took over from the 'dream team' of barnes/dalgleish would improve our standing...
i also remember the crap from the lazy journalists and gullible fans when Dr. Joe took over as manager and signed 'lubo'...
i can imagine as a celtic fan the enormity of the task in managing the team...thats where yer backroom staff come in...
building work is suspended due to weather....tea break time after 5 mins work!!!
kittoch> i hope so.... gordon strachan must put up with a lot of doubters...sometimes fans dont look at the big picture tho...
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Kittoch
I believe Gordon Strachan will leave at the end of this season irrespective of how the club performs.
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Aldo and some (Not I Caeser) May suggest just a touch parasitic.
Sacre vert! Sacrilege!!
Anyway .....
For those who didn't ask any questions, here are the answers to those pregnat questions you wanted answers to but were too afraid to ask.
1. Season tickets still available around the ground in singles and occasional twos.
2. Last batch of cards sent out last night. If you don't receive it by tomorrow get along to office with ID and they will issue hardcopy ticket for the Parma match. If you can't make office then phone in and they will get the ticket ready for for pick-up on Sunday.
3. No queues today so phone should be answered quite quickly - T.O. statement, not mine!
4. If you've lost all your trading points off your card (a la moi) you need to re-register the bar code online at the fishal site. Points from last year will then be transferred. (I haven't done this yet so it is as yet unconfirmed).
5. Superstore opens at 7.00am tomorrow for new away shirt, so you can supplement the meagre club coffers before you go to work or jaunt off down to Geordieland.
6. Ticket office now showing recording from secret camera deep in mineshaft, of strange burrowing creatures heading in direction of Clyde. Sweepstake in play on when the breakthrough will come! Tickets for spectacular are running out fast!
7 GS signs new 50 year contract. Pggtips put that noose away....just jesting! (it was only 25!)
Hail hail
Estadio
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Estadio> you are correct..hmm parasitic indeed...
answer no:6> is it a seasonal migration similar to lemmings or is it just a bit of muck on the lens....
burrowing creatures...hmm parasitic or commensalistic
did ye manage a drift into the international or neesons?
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Yo
EDB.
I will call you tonight at 6.00ish.
Anyway I think the GS departure at the end of the season is a bit problematic.
He is on a 1 year rolling contract, therefore he would either have had to have already handed his notice in or run the gauntlet of whatever he has achieved being totally devalued by leaving Celtic in the lurch with no successor in train.
If he has handed in his notice, and remembering that PL's contract also expires next summer then I think that the spiders web of rumours and hints would already be approaching red-hot.
I have absolutely no evidence to back up my view other than that the man himself said that he wanted to build something special here and was in it for the long term.
I accept that circumstances might change, but he is a necessarily stubborn individual.
The only circumstances I can see him leaving are:
1. An abject (and it would have to be abject) surrender of our seemingly dominant position.- unlikely!
2. A club that could feed his ambition even more than Celtic comes in for him - possibility
3. He goes having achieved what he set out to achieve - probably 2-3 years away.
As I say, I am only guessing.
Do you realise that the sad jingle and even sadder phrase from the Bangles' Eternal Flame, just came to mind.
'Am I only dreaming'!
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Alexandra Bastedo graces the cover of the aptly titled Smiths record'Rank'.
I've seen Farsley Celtic in action,when Gretna were playing English non-League football.Hoopslegend John Halpin was playing for Gretna,and doing what he did best-run very fast down the touchline before disappearing over the byline.
To risk MurrayWalker type ridicule-unless I am very much mistaken I would say JH is the only player to have played for the Grets,and the Celts.
Disappointingly Farsley wore blue,rather than the Hoops.Good luck to them in their takeover.
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PS Have I missed something?
Any particular reason why El Gordo's jacket should be on a shoogly peg this morning?
PPS Paul67-could/should Celtic have gone east,rather than west,this close season?
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'Victory in Moscow' perfect time for Strachan to bow out a Celtic Legend. Luzhniki Stadium, scene of manager's final tactical switch...
I like it!
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from monthehoops...
'Celtic star Shunsuke Nakamura says special geranium baths to soften his skin have helped his play.'
my missus uses avon 'skin so soft' with geranium and citronella..
does she go and play in the asia cup?
not a chance...
DBBIA> Yo! no reason...just various posters switching targets from aiden :-)
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EDB
I had the good fortune of being at a fund raiser with both WGS and King Kenny. WGS is well aware of how it all transpired with Kenny and knows how ficle a support can be. He did say that The Celtic Support is no way near as ficle as others.
He loves the club and loves to win things for as he puts it "The Supporters" and will be here as long as he can win things for the supporters.
As far as I can see we will be winning things for a long time to come. G.O.D.
KittochWhosIsHappyHeIsHere.
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Estadio,
Cheers for the info. My renewal form said my ticket would be renewed automatically, I sent it away anyway.
The deposit has come out of my account.
I though I could just use last year's card- ie there would be no "sending out" of books as in the old days.
Am I wrong?
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Kittoch,
I'll be happy to be proven wrong.
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Paul
I detect a degree of selfishness in your thread leader. I understand your sentiments but I cannot condone them. Though a large part of me agrees with you.
If we can’t beat Kilmarnock at home in our opening game and get a decent result in our European opener without the services of one Shunsuke, then Paul, we really are in trouble.
As stated previously, I hope the man goes on to score the screamer that wins Japan the cup.
He deserves it and so do Japan. Believe me.
All the accolades that will rain down, I would grin with pride, For Shunsuke, for Japan and lastly for Celtic.
Like Henrick before him, the man has ethics and integrity and we are so lucky to have him as a player. The financial benefits to Celtic from his presence are nice but to me, secondary.
I hope Japan win tonight, and win well and I hope the final is live and I get to support Shunsuke from my front room couch.
If they go on to win the final, I will celebrate like I do a Celtic win. With a smile and a whiskey. And to the press whores, a,’ pog mo toin’, then GIRUY.
That would be nice.
Let his mates take care of Celtic business while he celebrates the glory, he has so hard, strived to achieve.
Then we will really sell some shirts.
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I thought it was gerManium,rather than geranium!
Should be safe as long as he doesn't drink it.
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ItaliaBhoy-hold onto your TimCard-you'll use it this year as well.
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Friends,
There is a chance, a chance I say, that a snippet of one of my tunes will be played on Radio Scotland today, between 2 and 4.
Fingers crossed.
Also why the in depth on WGS leaving and succession planning?
I think he's here for a wee while longer...
I certainly hope he is and he merits that for his treatment of the press up here alone.
Go on Gordon.
u.
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dontbrattbakkinanger,
ta! timcard is ready to be dusted down for another year!
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Yeah,and it'll soon be time for the pre-season ritual of the Washing of the Scarf.
JCD seems to have a pretty short fuse.I can't see him getting through both Euro games without getting at least one red card.
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Ulysses McGhee
Are you Singer or a songwriter or both and do have a link?
Kittoch
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Italiabhoy.
Sorry I should have made that clear that new cards only went out for those who relocated, took a card for the first time, changed name or threw it in the bin.
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Ulysses,
Pardon my ignorance, but what are your tunes? What is your band called?
I'll listen out
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Also, Ulysses, do you have a myspace?
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Hi Folks,
sorry popped out there for some lemsips - no well me.
I am a singer songwriter and I have a myspace page at
www.myspace.com/garymillermusic
have put 4 new songs up, although with this cold my voice was not exactly perfect (Excuses, excuses...)
hope you enjoy.
u.
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Kano/M.Collins
Setanta
Newcastle game being shown live down here 4.45am EST kick off.
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estadio,
No problem. I'm always slightly nervous of the TO saying that I will be renewed automatically. Feart that when I turn up each season someone else will be in my seat!
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Taken from KDS
It may not interest too many Celtic fans to know that we've a reserve friendly tonight against Airdrie. It's hardly headline news given that we're playing Newcastle on Thursday.
However, on further digging, the Airdrie website has some potentially significant details to add.
The Celtic squad will include Balde, Gravesen, Riordan, Killen, O'Brien, Caddis and Bjarnason.
While the match may be insignificant, the choice of players to go there is certainly worthy of discussion. I doubt any of this group has much of a chance of first team action other than Killen who needs the game and is filling a definite gap up front at reserve level.
any thoughts?
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EDB
I think the world will end - BUT I hope I am proved wrong !. Have you no got work to do ?.
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Rob
I'm relaxing for a few minutes.
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Kitalba - Thanks for the tip on Setanta.....will have to set the DVR.
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ML3 Police
Keeping crime and its profits off of the streets...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6915163.stm
This one is worth the watching.
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Hi spirit of arthur lee
I noticed the squad list this morning and mu first though was to whether any of these players would be whisked down to Tyneside after the match to join up with main squad tomorrow?
The other thought is that our manager perhaps wants as many players as possible to get game time ahead of the new season so he is splitting his squad this week. Still, the list of players would certainly coresspond with many a 'shoogly peg' suggestion for said players futures.
I would expect to see more clues in the squad for the Parma game this weekend. As it stands, the following players look likely to be in teh starting 11 for the beginning of the season:
Boruc - goes without saying
Wilson - Unless another RB is signed
Pressley - A lot of game and media time given to the old warrior
McManus - Certain starter.
Naylor - Certain starter
Brown - The main man for the season.
JVoH - The number one striker.
To my mind, getting the midfield and forward balance right in the first month will be causing our manager more concern than gettign the back 5 spot on.
Naka is tired, Hartley has experience but no form, Donnati is new, McGeady needs form, McDonald is banned, Zurawski is fading fast and Miller is not a certain scorer.
Add in the likes of Gravesen, Jarosik and Riordan then i think Gordon has plenty to keep him up at night!
For what it is worth, I think we might start the season with Hartley playing either centrally (bleeding in Donnati to the SPL) or wide right (giving Naka a rest).
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Spirit of Arthur Lee
Any thoughts? I think we are taking our association with Airdrie too far. Fair enough using their ground for reserve matches but playing the team whose fans are probably more bigotted than Ran666ers goes beyond a joke.
I knew a bhoy whom I played boys fitba in the late 70s who went on to have a decent career with Partick Thistle, Kilmarnock and Airdrie who also worked as a Theatre Nurse. His name was Campbell Kennedy and despite the name a Celtic man thru and thru. Anyway whilst playing for the Diamonds against I think Thistle he was the subject of the player profile. His mother had come to watch him in that game and wasn't surprised that he was getting "sheep sh....." shouted at him by the opposition but couldn't believe that the home fans were given him dogs abuse as well, including booing and "fenian bar steward". His crime...in the programme "Fav Other Team...Celtic" "Fav ever player...Jimmy Johnstone". His mother was proud.
On a less humourous note they had those nutters with the KKK outfits going to games last season.
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I'm just settling down to watch Japan and Saudi Arbia.
Anybody else?
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Arabia
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Poor we Naismith’s feelin down,
He wants a move tae Govan town,
But the huns are skint, nae dosh around,
Tae buy young Steven Naismith.
His maw has sent him tae his bed,
Tae rest his loupin hurtin head,
Cos the golden goose’s been shot dead,
Aw sick wee Steven Naismith,
But wait a mo’, for helps at hand,
From DJ and his media band
Decryin’ Killie’s stubborn stand,
They’ll save their Steven Naismith
They’ve got a hat and begged some coin,
So that Naiser soon can join
His mates wae tattoos o’ the Boyne,
That’s marchin’ Steven Naismith.
While Steven picks his nervous rash,
And Boydy pawns his faither’s sash,
The buns start countin a’ their cash,
They’ll soon get Brither Naismith.
But Killie feel that forty quid,
Two auld boots and wan bin lid
Paid o’er three years, is still nae guid
Enough for stricken Naismith.
We’ve got a better offer frae
A club doon bye Auld Reekie way,
Yer provy cheque jist willna dae
Tae get yer pining Naismith.
The Huns convene an urgent meet,
And Minty states he’ll no be beat,
By those renowned for their left feet,
Who’d steal their right-foot Naismith.
A cunning plan is hatched that night
To bring to bear Sir David’s might
And scatter to the left and right
Those papists after Naismith.
He gets Grant-Thornton on the phone,
When Bain the man of orangey tone,
Suggests they organise a loan,
To pay for blue-boy Naismith.
“Ye’ll have to rob a flippen bank
Yer credit ratings touchin ‘rank’
Yer Gambling plan has even sank
Ye’ve had yer chips wae Naismith”
Then Murray wae that look that kills,
Suggests the cure for a’ their ills,
A print run o’ their own forged bills,
Will pay for precious Naismith.
The Lettraset frae Murray’s mint,
Soon printed tangerine of tint,
The wherewithal to buy that bint,
Whose given name was Naismith.
Now Naisy hearing of the news,
Cast off his fevered draining blues,
Brown brogues he’d wear instead of shoes,
That wee apprentice Naismith.
So then in glee frae underneath,
The sheets he goes tae brush his teeth,
Nae chance they’d sell him doon tae Leith,
He’s Rangers bound is Naismith.
But acts involving subterfuge,
Are jist like women caked wae rouge,
A blemish small, grows sudden huge,
When daylight dawns on Naismith
For things went wrang cos life’s a beast,
Its never wan, but three at least
That spoilt the celebration feast,
For the Prodigal called Naismith
Inspector plod his breakfast munchin’,
Strode up to Ibrox wae his truncheon,
And caught the crooked drunken bunch on
The floor from toastin’ Naismith
As Summer light turned winter dark
And Ayreshire donned its Cutty Sark
The huns surrendered Murray park
As a fine fur connin’ Naismith!
But what then passed was less than nice
For seeing Naisy’s plans hit ice
Our Peter snapped up at half price
That blessed convert Naismith.
This tale is not told to amuse
Or tease and tempt dismissive views
It’s but a rhyme that shouts ‘J’accuse’
At Murray, Bain and Grey Smith!
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Kittoch, on a tight schedule today.
STBF, an excellent idea.
Derbyshirebhoy, a ‘franchise’ in England would only have merit as a tactical move to force through some change. I am for it, as I believe no stone should be left unturned, but it will cost, not make money in the short term.
A franchise in the US would make money. We already have an infrastructure in place for football coaching and development, a relationship with Nike and Coors and a corporate management team who have met most of their immediate goals and will be looking for the next project soon.
Stuart, the sales side has been active since March. I don’t expect much to happen until late August; remember how TG handled his Madrid exit.
Dontbrattback, Japan was not an option this season due to the Asian Cup and our CL qualifiers. Otherwise we would have been there.
Kitalba, yes, Celtic’s (self) interest to the fore.
I’m away back to read Estadio’s prose.
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Ulysses McGhee
Could this explain why Kilmarnock are now expecting a new bid?
:-)
DMsfriendsareeverywhere
John Clark.
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15 minutes 0-0 still, Japn with 74% posession but not many chances.
Naka playing some nice passes.
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Kitalba,
I will be going against you on that one.
I hope Iraq(who have qualified on a penalty shoot out against Korea)win the tournament.
Agree,hope Naka scores a screamer,but hope it is a consolation,as Iraq take the cup 3-1.
Believe me, that country needs something like this.
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Great No.8
If Hartley is to find his form it will not be at right midfield. He needs to be central. If he is played out there in place of Naka then I will feel for him. I believe Hartley can and will come good.
Playing out wide was how he had 7-8 years of mediocrity. It was Big Starsky who changed him into a central mid for St. Johnstone and where he did exceptionally well foir Hearts.
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Estadio, love the poem!
But seriously, is Naysmith good enough or do we have sufficient of his type already? Or is it good sense to buy him just to stop him joining the other lot. And giving them a massive GIRUY of course.
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I have a sneaky feeling that the offer coming to Killie is from the Hibbies. But, I could well be wrong. They have not really spent any of the money that they have brought in since January and have lost a number of players. He would be able to fit in nicely to the style being pushed by John Collins.
If it is not Hibs, then it is an English side.
I, personally, do not see the need for him at the club.
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JohnnyMac,
I 'd be amazed if Hibs were to offer anything like that for a player, I really can't see them being the bidder. Hearts possibly would offer that as a GIRUY to Insolvency FC but again I can't see Vlad spending anything like that on a player.
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Gordon_J
I rate him highly, but I also rate those we have highly as well and I think they should get their chance.
Our motivation, fun as it may be to speculate, should not be to corner the market to simply squeeze out Rangers.
Respect in the game is hard won and easily lost.(Dignity is even more easily lost)
I still think (nothing other than gut feel) he will be at Ibrox before the window closes.
Hail hail
Estadio
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Saudi Arabia score. Japan being very cautious, as they were agaisnt Australia. It could cost them.
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And as they did against Australia, they go up the park and equalise. Nakazawa header from an Endo corner.
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Hi Steelica
I agree, I think Hartley is better in a central role but both the national team manager and Gordon have beem happy to push him wide when required.
I think we will see 5 different midfield combinations in the first 5 games of the season. It will take time before we settle down to some consistancy. Harltey and Brown's versatility may work agaisnt them in that they will be used to cover holes rather than given time to cement the middle.
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1-1 half time. Nothing special from Shunsuke, but nobody's kicked him yet either. So that's OK.
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RE Hoops v Diamond Dogs-if,and it's only a suggestion,the big picture is to take some of the big earners off the payroll,then shouldn't we be giving the likes of TG and BB gametime against bigger teams from the richer leagues?
As for me,I'd like to see how BB copes with Martens as practice for upcoming jousts with JCD,whose favourite footballer is Sonny Liston.
I used to relish the prospect of seeing the Pondlife bounce off the likes of BB,CRS,HL,JM and wee Johnny Hartson.
They really dislike being seen as physically weaker than us.They almost expect us to play the better football,but their belief is that the beautiful game is best played with the subtlety of a wrecking ball cracking a walnut.
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2-1 for Saudi Arabia.
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2-2
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3-2 for the Saudis. Stunning goal.
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ChenSB-doesn't sound like much of a game,then?
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Kano, on Iraq winning the Asian Cup:
I remember watching them get to the semi final at the 2004 Olympics, what a great achievement, I was delighted.
However, don’t get me started on football and nationalism. I have a theory that the Balkan wars stated with the rise of Serb nationalism following Red Star’s European Cup victory. They won the Cup in May 1991, within a month hostilities had started.
Every country on the globe would experience a rise of nationalism after winning a tournament like this, I am not sure what this would do to Iraq.
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Following on from Glen Johnson's arrest for nicking a toilet seat from B&Q, if you need, a limo, ask these guys
chennai
how does nakazawa look? centre-back?
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Is Warren Barton related to Mad Joey?
P67-There was a recent article in WSC about the final seasons in the old Yugoslavian leagues.I think in the very last season every game had to go to a penalty shootout,ie there could be no draws.
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Bloke
Yes Nakazawa's a central defender. Big strong fella, very aggressive in the box for his goal.
Saudi Arabia have had a bit of success driving at the centre of the defence though. Not sure if it was him the guy who scored the third goal took on in the box.
Judgement reserved.
dbbia
Well, it's better than watching the cricket reruns.
Japan just hit the bar from 30 yards.
I've got to go out soon.
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Paul et al,
Is it possible under FIFA/UEFA Regs for a club to own another club in another league? I am thinking about the feasibility of buying Leeds. If it is possible, does the international franchising of Celtic have implications for the major shareholder(s) of Celtic? In particular, can an individual be the major shareholder in more than one club? I can see potential conflict of interest issues here--of course, being Canadian (now, I always see potential conflict of interest issues!
Rebus
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Farsley Celtic's new away strip isn't bad.
Farsley Celtic
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It's all over. Shunske's coming home.
Best semi final of a major competition I can remember.
Should be an interesting final, although my money would be on the Saudis.
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chennaiseabird
There's a 3rd/4th play off this weekend !
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Awe Naw...
Don't know where you'll be, or even if you've left yet, but this place seems decent enough and not too far from Central London either.
Spirit of 67
It has the added advantage of being nearby to Abbey Road of Beatles fame, if you fancy a bit of sightseeing and Zebra-crossing too...
Good Luck! Mike
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I do not think there is any issue with ownership in different leagues (see Abramovich with Chelski and thon Russian side, Mad Vlad with Kaunus and Hearts, . The only issue would arise if they ended up playing against each other in a competative match.
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Rebus, good question. It is possible for an individual to own two clubs in different countries who do not compete internationally (Hearts, Kaunus), but I am not sure if the club itself can own another club, though I am beginning to think we ‘own’ Rangers.
Celtic could potentially licence their brand to a US club, or the PLC could also invest in an intermediary who could own another club. One for the lawyers.
Hugh, thanks for the updates from the Asian Cup. Pity for Naka, but I would be happy to see him pull out of the play-off game with a sore elbow.
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Paul67
Korea-Japan the biggest game of the tournament !
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Paul,the place is already split,not only down ethnic lines but religious and political lines too.
Maybe a wee celebration as a nation may deflect attention away from their far bigger problems.
And who knows? Could even lessen the splits which are occurring at the moment.
And,if nothing else,it would bring a smile,if only for a short time,to several million paople,who really need a break.
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diggy
I dont think it's a coincidence that Farsley have chosen green & white hoops for their away strip.
They;re probably thinking that some Hoops fans might purchase a wee top or two.
Then again,i may be wrong & that is their normal away strip.
Hail Hail
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Paul, I didn't think it was possible for an individual/ company to own or have a controlling interest in two clubs if they run a chance of playing each other. That would create a conflict of interest.
AFAIK, Abramovich owns Chelsea, while his company sponsors a Russian side. Similarly Mad Vlad owns Hearts while his bank sponsors Kaunus.
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Gordon,
It is my understanding that he has controlling interest in Hearts, Kaunas in Lithuania and FC MTZ-RIPO in Belarus.
Did you know, he also owns the K-19 submarine...He served on it when he was a consctipt in the Russian Navy.
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Thanks for the responses on the ownership issues across leagues. There are some cases that could be studied --- Hearts/Kaunus and the Chelski example, plus Chivas in the US and Mexico.
On the feasibility of buying Leeds in order to gain entry into the Championship and hence the EPL, if Celtic bought Leeds, there would be an issue of re-locating the enterprise to Glasgow. I assume Celtic would not wish to play out of the Leeds ground. I suspect that the Championship (or the FA?)would have to give approval for such a switch. I wonder if there are regs that specify that all club grounds must be in England. Maybe not, given the Berwick example in the Scottish leagues?
This strategy would need a lot of background work (by lawyers) and contains many uncertainties that could prove fatal to success.
On a side note, if it is feasible is there a cheaper option than Leeds?
Rebus
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It's my lunch break so I have time for another post.
Is Celtic a global brand? We can all believe it. Anyone see the celtic shirts in the HK audience for the Fulham vs Portsmouth game? Also, I was on vacation in Bergamo, Italy two weeks ago. Is that where Donati comes from? Anyway I saw several celtic shirts in the town. Similarly, on a day trip to Milan, I saw a sporting store that stocked the shirts. Finally, on the way home I visited Leicester and there are a good few folks wearing the colours there.
You only have to look at the global branding of "Ireland" to see the potential the Celtic brand, either through its Irish or Scottish expats.
Rebus
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Now if only Mad Vlad would try transferring K-19 to hearts. It has awesome firepower upfront and a watertight defence. It'd fit right in with its excellence in diving, and like some Jambos I know, It's full of seamen.
;-)
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Before they played at the Bernabeu Real Madrid played at the'Campo de O'donnell',suggesting they may be the second biggest club in the world with Irish roots;~)
A wee trawl through the Pyramid of English non-league football brings the comforting news that both Cleator Moor Celtic and West Allotment Celtic wear the Hoops as their first choice strip.
Farsley Celtic wear blue,but have a proper change kit.
Stalybridge Celtic wear blue as well,but the man who founded the club had blue racing colours for his horses as well.
DBBIA/Trinny and Susannah CSC
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Stuart
K9 would be better.
We could either go straight forward to 10 in a row, or go back and tell Bobo not to dive in in Seville.
Hail Hail
Estadio
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If you really want to make a difference, this is what you must do.
http://www1.talksport.net/index.asp?
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test
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Est-I've voted,though it took me a while to find it!
I thought you wanted us to listen to Ian Wright effing and blinding his way through his podcast.
I should cocoa!
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Yo
I am back on. Reset my cache, and blogger went down.
Paul
I heard a little rumour about a young Mr Naismith today, his destination is something different than is reported here!
From a staff member at rugby park.
heraldo, woof woof (thats me trying to get out of a bunker at Aberdour)
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Heraldo .....
I take it Partick Thistle have snuck under the radar with a £2million bid :-)
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ESTADIO (The Genius)
Great poem.
You have too much spare time.
I am going down to Nooky brown land tomorrow.
Where and when,are you bhoy's meeting for a pint?
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Matin/42
It was a pleasure meting you at Aberdour. Enjoyed the cnversation.
Is OldTim on holiday? Another whom I spoke to, another good guy.
Can't wait till next outing
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Heraldo,
Who else came in for Naismith? I've heard Hibs and Hearts have made a bid for him. (don't know if we have)
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There are eight cash turnstiles open at St. James' Park tomorrow- four in the Sir John Hall Stand ((13, 14 35 and 36), two at the south-east corner (52 and 53) and two at the south-west corner (71 and 72).
Admission is £15, £10 for seniors and £5 for juniors.
Best place for a pre-match pint is the Tyneside Irish Centre right behind the ground, but you will need to be signed in.
How many fans are we expected to take?
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Pjdai
Better chance of Petershill mate :o)
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Heraldo,
Just a guess, educated, I hope.
Derby?
Rebus
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It would be nice if the manager-haters (of whom there is a worrying amount) could desist from referring to him as Strachan. I don't think I've ever seen the previous incumbent referred to on here as O'Neill. A bit of respect please, guys.
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rebus67
I know Kilmarnock will sell to a club who will pay money upfront. It may be Derby, or whover.
To change the subject, will Gordon Strachan ever change our formation? I hope he reverts to a 4-3-3 from time to time.
Thismancraig may disagree, Derek Riordan will only suceed at Celtic in a 4-3-3 formation. I would try McDonald, JVOH (whom I don't rate, but will play) and Riordan. He is a finisher, but NEVER a left midfielder.
I disagree with Paul et all regarding Bobo, he would be my FIRST choice as centre half. A country mile our best defender. Forget the wages, that's not Bobo's fault. To replace him would cost more than Celtic can pay.
Against Man U at home, he was fantastic. Always my number 1 choice.
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If I was guessing, I would have placed a bet on West Brom or Preston.
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Guys
Click onto the link provided by Estadio and vote for Sutty and Henke as the top strike partnership.
They're currently well ahead in the voting.
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Hasn't "Naisy" already stated he's not going to England?
Heraldo,
How did the op. go for your dog?
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Heraldo
You weren't in many bunkers, just the wrong side of some quick greens!!!!!
I don't really disagree, his only hope is wide left in a 3. I just don't think Riordan has the all round game to be worth the fuss. Having said that, maybe I'm being harsh in that he's probably never played in the proper position for us. One thing he is not, and never will be, is a centre forward.
I would like to see us play more of a 4-3-1-2 with Naka starting in the 1 with McGeady the ultimate impact player of the bench. Right now I'd go with JVOH (Who I rate but he will never do what people want him to...replace Sutty or Hartson, he's just a goalscorer - not much else) and McDonald (Worth a bet for top goalscorer).
For the 3 in midfield I wouldn't discount Sno starting more than most but it would be Hartley, Donati and Brown for me in a narrow 3!
My starting back 4 is Wilson, Caldwell, McManus and Naylor. Hey, it's sure not a popularity contest because the choice of Caldwell leads some people into cold sweat! I think our best functioning defence of last season was as above!
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EDB
Sutton will always be in my top 3. Outstanding.
JVOH, is a poor mans Chris Sutton, I nearly caused a riot on our supporters bus. They are now coming round to my way of thinking.
He has a long way to go. I don't buy into he's a class striker.
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I wonder if FC Dignity could try a similar scam as their little arrangement with Wigan over Webster.
Naisy goes to Derby - gets homesick by January - boabs yer granny and he is up at Ibrox on loan with a view to a permanent move next summer.
Nah - surely even they couldn't do it twice?
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thismancraig
I wouldn't disagree Caldwell and McManus were our best partnership last season.
However, I would always play Bobo in front of those guys. He has a presence, I would hate to play against a Bobo type. I am sure Mr McCoist and all, are thinking the same.
My best mate, is head groundsman at Rugby Park, and can't believe Pressley is in front of the pecking order. Neither can I.
on another subject, GOLF. I have been accepted to the Montgomerie course in Kilmarnock today. Maybe get a 4 ball with your bro and my mate Scotty.
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Heraldo
Sounds good to me - is that Rowallan Castle?
Just stole your Tiger Woods compilation there - magic video!
tmc
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thismancraig
Rowan Catle, is the one. Member next year. Cost a fortune, but might get to read greens!!!!!!!
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may67
nothing wrong with calling him strachan,no different from calling a player by their surname
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may67
Stein is big jock
o'Neil is Mon
Strachan is strachan does not mean i hate him.
Now john barnes that's a man i dislike.
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I don't dislike John Barnes. He was enjoy his small TV appearances and was offered the opportunity to take on the job at CP. He jumped at it.
Now, he was not up to the task and should never have been offered the opportunity in the first place. That is the fault of those made the offer, not him.
If any of us were put in his place, we would have jumped at the chance too.
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gweedorebhoy
Seeing it's a quiet night and most CQNers have headed for Airdrie would you mind explaining what you didn't like about John Barnes?
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el diego bhoy
I was at Partick cis mid week game I think we won 2-1. Apart from the great crack with the thistle fans i remember most john barns giving me and my brothers a rude verbal brush off when we engaged in some mild mannered banter. He was the channel 5 commentator i think?
The Man has no class and whilst a great football player is not a great man. He also partly blames his failure at Paradise on some sort of racisim which i find offensive.
I would be off to airdrie myself and newcastle but we lost one of our unborn twins a few weeks ago so watching the missus as we try and ensure the surviving child makes it. We have 8 weeks to go.
But 3 of my brothers are down tomorrow so i will be there in spirit.
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Names?
It's about respect. Simple.
The use of a surname in the wrong context is disrespectful. There is no context on the internet other than what's there in the content.
So use of surname followed by critical comment appears disrespectful. Strachan is a poor manager. Strachan needs to improve. Strachan isn't giving Riordan a chance. Arrogant and disrespectful.
And, in my opinion, perversely wrong.
The intention may not be disrespectful, but the effect is. Respectful people consider the effect as well.
Does this sound patronising?
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Yes bird
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gweedorebhoy
Pleaseaccept my sympathy for your sad loss and my sincere best wishes that all goes well for you and your wife with the remaining twin
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EDB
Not that you asked me, but.
What I didn't like about John Barnes was the way that goal he scored against a collapsing Brazil defence was hyped up to be one of the best ever. It didn't come close to Nicholas against Rangers, Best against Southampton, Maradona against England.
But it was probably a bit better than Strachan's agaist Germany, although the incisive pass from Aitken was exceptional.
Oh, and I didn't like his chummy voice or the performance of his teams.
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gweedorebhoy
I responded immediately to your post but like many other posts these days it has disappeared.
I am so saddened to hear of your loss and wish you and your good lady sincere best wishes for the coming weeks.
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gweedorebhoy
Good luck.
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cheers everyone.
We are in the hands of the big man and the best st johns hospital can offer.
It's at times like these that i realise how great the nhs is.
And thanks for the thoughts i will keep you all posted on how we get on.
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Mr Angry
That's seabird to you sir.
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Shug
My main gripe was the fact that KD, knowing the club and all it stood for, the aspirations of the support, the difficult times we were going through then, had the stupidity to employ JB as our manager with no previous experience.
He was culpabable IMO.
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Gweedorebhoy, who knows why these things happen. Take care of the missus and I hope everything works out well for you both
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gweedorebhoy,
Sincerest best wishes to you and your wife. I'll say a prayer to St. Gerard on your behalf.
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EDB
Roy Keane seems to be doing ok without any previous managerial experience, don't you think?
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El Diego Boy
Thought your were off with the ESTADIO.
Just caught your post mate, the wee man pulled through. With a name like Lubo, a "Gift from God" there was always a chance.
We are so happy. We met Billy Boyd, his dog was in at the same time. The big screen is deceptive, he is tiny!
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gweedorebhoy
my prayers go out to you and your wife at this time . may god bless
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Back to the headline at the top of this blog.
I wanted Japan to go all the way, with Naka the shining light that led them. While it may have hampered our short term objectives, it would have enhanced his long term value to us. He would have come back a confident winner, and his global stock would have risen.
In the event he was a star in the qualifying matches, but no more than a cameo performer in the two critical games, Australia and Suadi Arabia.
Before the SA game, he was being quoted on how he needed to do more for other players in the team.
No, Naka. We need a hero, now. We need a scourge of the Rangers. Have you scored against them? Thomas Gravesen has, twice. Unless I'm mistaken, he's our current top scorer against them.
Come, my bhoy. Develop an ego, get on the ball, run the game. Pass or score. But do it for yourself and us. Don't ask what you can do for others, ask what they can do with the pearls you cast before them. And tell Aiden to do the same.
No wonder Gordon is having trouble picking a captain.
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Gweedorebhoy,
I can remember the days when I disagreed with most of what you had to say here. Over the past few weeks, however, I've found myself increasingly nodding my head in agreement at your posts, particularly in the last few days.
Obviously one of us is mellowing in our old age ;-)
Very best wishes to you & Mrs. Gweedorebhoy.
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The live link up between EDB and Estadio who is our roving reporter at tonight's game has Celtic 1-0 ahead at half time going on 4 or 5.
It is reported that around 4,000 Tims have made the effort on this balmy evening.
The team is (more or less)
McGovern,
Caddis, Balde, Virgo, Ryan Conroy ex of OLSP Dumbarton.
Jim O'Brien (ex of you know where)Bjarnasson, Tommy G, Deeks
Up front Killen and Paul McGowan who scored an absolutely fab. goal.
Caddis
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Meanwhile the work of spreading the good work overseas continues.
I believe that Sooke is in British Columbia, Canada.
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mr angry
Roy Keane for me was always likely to do well in whatever branch of football he had an interest in. His success is not surprising to me.
Who ever postulated JB as a possible quality manager during his playing career?
He was the wrong choice at that time and it wasn't all down to him.
Why hasn't he managed a club since then?
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That would be "good word", of course.
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I know it's a bit of old hat now, but I've just watched the Chicago match and I think it was a damn good work out against a team who were playing a cup final.
Nothing but good will come out of the game and we actually got stronger as the game wore on, whereas te Fire were well and truly extinguished and blowing out their collective flues when the final whistle went.
As in last season, sometimes you get a better appraisal of a match when you already know the score.
Teddy for player of the year.
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Jim
Now that you mention the other King, let's consider his managerial excellence.
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Done that? OK, now, given that record, how could anyone have thought that KD was a judge of a manager?
I mean, Alex Ferguson at least has a track record as a manager. But even he got it spectacularly wrong with Steve McLaren and the Spanish or Portuguese guy he appointed a couple of years ago.
Nah, it wasn't Kenny's fault. He just rode the wave. Makes it all the more remarkable that Martin, Desmond, Brian and I have been so right about Gordon Strachan.
Oops. Patronising and arrogant in the one night. Time I got a life.
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Heraldo, not sure I have reported a destination for Mr Naismith. We have made no bid.
On Bobo: aaaaaaaargh! “Against Man U at home” he was his typical self. The ball went to his feet and he took so long to adjust he was robbed, Ronaldo almost scored.
Lovely big guy, great against Rangers, but in the Europe, or against nippy wee SPL players, I have my concerns.
Gweedore, I am sure it has been a hard few weeks, hang in there. You are in my thoughts.
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Paul67,
Heart of Hearts do you think tht we will make a bid for naismith?
Money could spent better elsewhere do you think? Either towards a better striker or centre half?
Saying can Naismith not play right midfield as well? Is that not a position WGS would like to fill?
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hi paul.fellow celts.
reading through todays papers ,i wonder how in the name of god are we going to handle the hammer throwers that walter is assembling. i feel the only player worth his salt regards this is bobo.scott brown will get stuck in but cant see much else, i have posted as have many others with the same thought that our team is far to light esp midfield. changed days as we no longer have the mjallby,s suttons ,lennons, bbj ,thomson,s. any views bhoys
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Paul67,
Fair point about Bobo. However, would still have him in front of Pressley and McManus.
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Paul67
Estadio has granted me an audience on Monday evening at the Strathclyde Homes Stadium.
As the main man here might you know of any dress code required?
He comes across as a fussy sort!
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EDB
Maybe you need reminding of your comment
My main gripe was the fact that KD, knowing the club and all it stood for, the aspirations of the support, the difficult times we were going through then, had the stupidity to employ JB as our manager with no previous experience.
Your main criticism of KD is that he employed a manager with no previous experience.
I have simply pointed out that this stupidity as you call it has worked for Nail Quin with the appointment of Keane at sundderland.
In answer to your other questions
Who ever postulated JB as a possible quality manager during his playing career?
I don't know and neither do you.
Why hasn't he managed a club since then?
Probably because he was earning a good salary from Channel 5.
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Physical presence? Stephen McManus?
Ouch.
Get that full back in.
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WGS, I believe Hearts have already made a bid for Naismith.
Jimtim, I see your problem, stop reading the newspapers, they are doing you no good.
Don’t worry about next season, it is still a long way away….
EDB, Morning suit sounds appropriate.
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Gweedorebhoy,
I'd like to add my thoughts and hopes to those already expressed. I will hope for better news over the next 8 weeks for you and your family.
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chennaiseabird
"Patronising" is da Plodders woid, fur "Intellectual"...
Dat is because their ain comments are so limited..... an' Ineffectual!
You are a light of Perspicacity an' Illumination, dat emanates from da East!
Keep on Truckin', Babe... yer Observations are ayeways welcome,an'
Dey ur an Intellectual Feast!
collie
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Flash report
Seems that Ferry, Lawson and Quinn have now replaced Virgo, Gowser and Bjarnsson.
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mr angry
You're being too kind to John Barnes.
If C5 money is enough to keep him away from managing a football club, that says all you need to know about his passion ambition and suitability for the job.
Gordon and Martin are better than him at the TV job as well.
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Gweedorebhoy
I have been where you are now on too many occassions to relate. That is why I always say that being a father is the greatest thing that can ever happen to a man.
My best wishes to you and your wife.
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Gweedorebhoy,
I have been in a similar situation before and can appreciate it is anxious times - I hope it works out well for you.
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Hi Paul
I never said that you said anything mate. I have heard all sorts of stories on this site. Today I heard a whisper that a bid for Steven Naismith went in from a Scottish club, I am happy with the reported bid.
We will have to disagree on Bobo. Thats football, opinions. I rate the guy big time.
Can I ask, that the guys on site spread their prayers to my partner and her family for the loss of their nephew Mark aged 18, which has been documented in the press in the past week. I made a site on his honour, here it is
Many thanks everyone
Gerry
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mr angry
No reminders are required T.Y.
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Shug,
Thanks for that very kind comment about my T V ability.
Cheers,
Martin.
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...better than he...
Grammar is important too. In't it, Collie? You need to know the rules before you gnaw them
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The young lad O'Carroll has now replaced Chris Killen.
Latest Estadio update.
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Martin
You're very welcome. I thought you were brilliant in The Professionals, but your Judge John Deed was your coming of age.
Can I get a slot in your next show?
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WGS
We hiv made a bid(VERBAL!!!) fur Nae a Smith...
Ah thocht ye knew aboot dat?
It is da Highest wan, dat Killie hiv received...
It's FAUR Above, da WAN dat left dem PEEVED!
But tae no go tae his Hearts Desire, has left da Player.....Doonherted an'
Disenchanted!
Da stickin' point, is da Player's ain desires,
dat has pit a wee Damper on Celtic's Fire!
He likes da G.A!...an' we must respect his voice,
He wull wait, until da last minute, afore he maks his choice.
So dat's awe der is tae say aboot this deal...
We wid like tae sign da Lad....
fur he fits da TEMPLATE.(Young, Cheap, Money in da Bank!)
But, he must mak up his mind afore it's too late!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Heraldo
A sad story.
You read of these events in the paper and often fail to remember that this was someone's son, brother, sweetheart or friend.
We will include him in our thoughts.
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FT
1-0 to the good guys.
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Shug,
No problem at all.
One of the necessities of bieng a judge is WISDOM.
According to a few of my good friends on this site, I have that very thing, "Wisdom" the type that comes with age.
You certainly can have a starring role in the next series, you and a few hand picked friends.
Nice to talk to you again.
E D B,
How are you and M?
Did you enjoy your holiday?
Heraldo,
I loved the golf day, and meeting your good self, JIMTIM AND OLDTIM67.
The rest I had alresdy met.
Cheers,
Martin
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Gweedorebhoy, hope it all works out for you and your wife.
Heraldo, thoughts to you and yours also.
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Heraldo
Great tribute there. What more can you do or say?
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Gweedorebhoy - thoughts and prayers with your and the family.
On the minor stuff.....can we assume by the lack of action on finding cover for the ful-backs that we've got some stars coming through the youth team ready to step up to the mark? I don't want to see guys like Gary Caldwell being asked to step into that role....tried it last season and it wasn't pretty.
Where is the lesser-spotted Doumbe?
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Sad stories tonight from Gweedorebhoy and Heraldo. God bless you and yours, lhads. Hope you have better news in eight weeks, Gweedore. As Tom the Tim said, St Gerard is your man.
EDB, thanks for the updates on the game in Airdrie. I look forward to seeing Estadio's report, especially with regard to Paul McGowan.
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Paul...or Anybady
Please Guench dis Argy Bargy, dat hiz
erupted here...
between two big saft galoots!
Is "Falls Road" da Sanctuary o' da Cats or da crowd we ca'.. Pollutes?
If it's no...
den whit is da place ,where it's quite alright, tae play da Drums an' Flutes?
Dinna Hurry slowly. wit' yer answer, ah
dinna know how much longer ah can
keep separate dese, TWO CHANCERS!
collie
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Ghuys
Thanks very much. Mark was one in a million, an absolute gem of a guy.
He was my nephew, but more of a brother.
Many thanks Paul and guys
Gerry
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Celtic_First
All down to Estadio my friend.
I hope when I meet him on Monday he might bring the Slabbering Woman.
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Heraldo,
I don't know what to say re: the loss of Mark. Now I have never heard anything about this or have ever heard of him but that is because I don't read newspapers etc.
After visiting the website and reading about him and watching the videos,I am sitting here in tears for someone who I didn't know but really wish I had.
It is terrible that he has been taken from you all when he looked liked he had so much to give.
God bless him and all connected with him and a special well done for yourself as this is a great tribute.
Gweedorebhoy,
You & your wife's loss is no less tragic. What should be one of the happiest events in your life has now been turned upside down but there is still hope for your other unborn child and I really hope that everything else goes ok for both you and your good lady.
I will be saying a prayer for Mark, the loss of the unborn child, you both and for your families tonight.
God Bless
Paul
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gweedorebhoy
so sorry to hear of your loss.
please accept my prayers for you and mrs gweedorebhoy.
a testing time indeed. heartbreaking no-less.
my best mates wife has twelve weeks to go, they have lost 3
unborn kids over the last 24 mths.
i have two young bhoys but went through a lot of trauma with both
(and the wife) during the pregnancy's.
i cannot even imagine the grief you both must feel.
good bless. my thought are with you both.
heraldo
my prayers for you and yours also
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Heraldo, I heard the news reports of Mark’s accident and discussed it with Mrs 67 at the time, it was a terrible news story. My thoughts to you and your partner’s family.
Collie, I have absolutely no idea what you are alluding to there. Not even a clue.
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Imagine you're Steven Naismith. You're 20, you're a pretty damned good footballer for your age, you're at heart a Rangers supporter. You grew up in the nine in a row era, you supported a winning team. In the bounce games in the playground you were Ally McCoist.
Now you're good enough to play for a top team. You want to play, naturally, for your boyhood heroes. They want you to play for them.
But there's a problem. They are not the team they were, so instead of Mark Haleley they want you. And they want you on 20 year old Steven Naismith terms, not mature experienced Mark Hateley terms. They are not a top team any more, and won't be for most of your playing career. At least.
Just my opinion of course.
Exploitation? Did I say that?
Young Steven, you have a choice. By all means show loyalty to your dream. We revere Paul McStay for doing just that. But do it with open eyes, knowing that the club you support is on the downward slope of a trough whose depth no one has yet fathomed. And a club whose supporters are not noted for looking on the bright side of life.
Where we revere, they will revile. Trust me.
If we are indeed in for you, (no disrespect, but I would rather we weren't) you may have a deeply maturing decision to make. Stick by your heroes, with all of the consequences. Do it with open eyes.
Or take the plunge, see what's best for your personal achievement, and look beyond the blue horizon.
Good luck with your decision.
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heraldo . as with gweedorebhoy,my thoughts and prayers go out to the lads family and friends.
martin . many thanks for your comments .as i said at the golf dinner,what a great day i had meeting all the guys.from not knowing a soul to getting a warm handshake on arrival from oldtim one of the nicest people i think i have ever met.enjoyed the craic with you and paul. if the lhads are ever having a wee night out sometime can i come.
hail hail
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Heraldo
Thanks to Paul67 this site, probably unintentionally on Paul's part and totally understanably, has actually acted as a wonderful focal point for those of us just wanting to reach out to friends at difficult times. Sincere best wishes to you and your extended family.
Jim
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Collie,
Falls Road-- Nationalists
Shankill Road-- Unionists
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Paul
Many thanks from myself and Donna.
Chennaai
I'll put a little wager that young Steven will end up at Paradise. And, he will be happy at that.
Cheers Guys
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Heraldo
Did you get my e.mail? Me you and Estadio in the same bar?
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Paul...Tom the Tim
Dat's Awright!.... da Boss he jist cam in,
An' settled der upset..
A couple a woids frae him...an' da case wiz closed,
An' noo der's nae mair need tae fret!
Tom da Tim..
Thankee Pally, yer Answers ur da SAME, as were given by da Boss....
So...
NOO We have it!
Der is nae Mair Excuse tae waste der Time, in Argyin' da Toss!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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paul .fellow celts .
dont know if i am right with this but i understand keano has made a bid for naismith. anyone else pick up on that .
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Just thinking about the Naismith thing.
How could we possibly put anything over that rabble that hasn't been done already?
Be quite clear on this one:
The suntanned kid is going to be the fall guy in the City of London Police enquiry.
And they are looking into less obvious dubious matters.
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chennaiseabird
i assume when u talk about surnames being used being disrespectful u are either not being serious or are yet completely contradict yourself. U have repeatedly referred to a japan player as "Nakazawa".
u then when alluding to possible statements made about gordon strachan said "Strachan isn't giving Riordan a chance. Arrogant and disrespectful" yet u refer to derek riordan as "riordan" why is it different for a player and a manager. It is commonly used and as it is on a blog not to the person i personally do not see it as disrespectful. if you do, then why do it for players as mentioned above
On to football and i am not keen on naismith, we do not need him and he would simply end up in the same position as DR and if he never cause even more friction to the likes of DR.
My only guess is we are trying to get scots in the squad for the progressive UEFA rule changes regarding home grown players
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antsman
Just because you believe the young Killie player might not make it in his chosen career is neither here nor there imho. That said many of your posts have had me scratching my head in bewilderment - then on other occasions find myswelf in complete agreement - usually drunk mind you.
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Gweedorebhoy and Heraldo,
Sometimes life really is very cruel.
Both your families will take a long time to recover from the traumas you have experienced.
I do not know if it is possible to get over such a loss as you both have had.
For myself, I never got over the loss of my wife 12 years ago.
I just learned how to cope with my innermost feelings.
If I had not, then I just might have lost more than my wife.
I will think and pray for all of you.
Gweedorebhoy,
You and your wife will love your baby twice over, just you wait and see.
Heraldo,
What can anyone say, to lose a young person must be the ultimate horror story for any parent.
Does Mark have any siblings?
Thinking about both families,
Martin.
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antsman
Aboot ma Pal, Shug...
Shug wiz usin' whit we ca' "Selective Reasonin'"...
Which, ah use masel' ..fur it perks up da Blog ,an' adds a Leetle Seasonin'!
So tak it easy, gie us a break...
we ur only tryin' tae amuse...
It's only fur ENTERTAINMENT'S SAKE!
If an occasional Faux Pas appears, please remember dis EXCUSE... which is Music tae MA EARS....
"Ready... when you are, C.B.!"
Tae explain it ,wid tak too long... trust me!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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el diego
Be fair, i have not said he would not make it.
i said i don't think that A - we need him or B - he would be a regular
throw into the mix C - that money could be better spent on a quality CB or full back .......again in my opinion
If i have u scratching your head then ask, i always look to back up my posts with a reason(s).
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EDB
email sent mate
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E D B,
You got mail,
Martin
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Collie
I well remember Kojo explaing "over to you CB" in my earky CQN days. Loved it.
The blog is great but correctly requires turmoil most particularly when the Hoops are in their kip!
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El Diego Bhoy
Gled ye know whit's whit...
as ah said... tae explain it...
is quite a Lengthy BIT!
Ye ur free tae use dat excuse...an' it's goat me oot o' many a fix!
But tae really understaun' it ye must be a fan o' da FLICKS!
A stir o' da Big "C", here an' der...
Can turn a BLASE BlOG...inta wan
DAT IS RARE!
It's jist ShowBiz, ma man...
nevah tae be taken, too serious,
Fur if ye dae...den ye micht wind up in Hawkheid(Is it still der?) an' be MUMBLIN' AN' DELIRIOUS!
Oor motto is...
Dangit! Ah've jist Forgot!
But, ah know dat it is Very Wise...and Deep.... an' Means A Lot!
Oh! Well!
Me an' Scarlett.... we'll think aboot it... da Morrah!
Fur tae worry aboot it noo...
Is jist too Much o' a Borrah!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Evening everyone.
At half time tonight, I received a phone call from EDB during which I passed on the team.
He passed on the saddest of news concerning Gweedorbhoy and his wife and the elusive shadow of what might-have-been!
The fragility of life and the gaping hole that its loss leaves in the lives of those who love, is filled with a maelstrom of emotions that no words can ever approach explaining.
Heraldo's sad news magnified that through the prism of pictures, words, smiles and all too vivid memories.
There will be no match report tonight. It is so unimportant.
But I will go to sleep not only with those who have waved cheerio in my thoughts but with the certain and invigorating knowledge that in visiting our lives, however briefly their mark has been made for all eternity!
We have been privileged and one day I know we will tell them just how much.
Requiescant in pace
Estadio
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Estadio ( The Genius).
Would you like to meet, me and my friend for a pint tommorrow?
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Gweedorbhoy and Heraldo I have never met any of you yet but my thoughts and prayers before going to sleep will be with you and your loved ones tonight and always.
We have just saw our oldest cub go away for 2 weeks where we wont be able to talk to her and she will be enjoying herself to much to want to talk to us and we are crapping ourself but your 2 stories have put that into perspective.
Night night.
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Greenlion2
Marinello ,asked me, to ask you , whit?
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Well, the BBC are saying the interesting bidders are Hibs and Hearts....How bad is it for Rangers that these clubs can outbid them......lol.
This from the BBC website:
Hearts and Hibernian are in discussions with Kilmarnock about the transfer of Scotland striker Steven Naismith from Rugby Park, BBC Sport understands.
Rangers manager Walter Smith said this week that the Glasgow outfit had dropped their interest after the two clubs could not agree a transfer fee.
Now the two Edinburgh clubs have stepped up their interest.
But Rangers remain the 20-year-old's favoured club and he might reject a proposed move to any of their rivals.
The Ibrox club have been chasing Naismith all summer, having four bids rejected before withdrawing their third final offer of £1.5m.
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antsman @ 22.39
Have a look at my post a few minutes after the one for which you take me to task. You will see there that I make reference to a few people by their surnames, including Gordon Strachan.
That was deliberate. I hoped that poking fun at myself might bring a smile to someone's lips.
But the point remains the same. When you refer to someone by their surname the context is everything. And the effect is as significant as the intent.
In the case of Mr Nakazawa, the context there is the established practice of referring to goalscorers in match reports by their surname only.
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Gweedorbhoy & Heraldo,
You and you’re family’s are both in my thoughts and prayers at this sad time.
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Heraldo
I'll accept your wager, as long as it's in kind, the liquid kind.
I don't doubt Naismith's ability, I'm just not sure he's a step up in quality from what we've got now. Do we need to add to the congestion? Having said that, if we sign him, he will get my.....You know the rest of that sentence.
I don't know about WOW signings, but I do think we've hit a quality ceiling. We've got a seriously big squad with some very good players in it.
And I know and agree with the buy them early and cheap asset management strategy.
But it would be a mark of progress if we could attract one or two players of established repute. Someone for whom the wealthy elite in Europe are a viable alternative, but who chooses us for career reasons.
That's the market I'd like to see our next one or two signings come from. Not alone there, I guess.
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chennaiseabird
you referred to him as that while talking about him in general i.e." Nakazawa's a central defender. Big strong fella, very aggressive in the box for his goal"
My point is why do people make an issue when we use the managers surname but not players. Anyway i don't think it is disrespectful, you appear to for Gordon strachan but not players, agree to disagree on that one
However i fully agree with your comments on Naismith.
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gweerdorebhoy
me empathy and sincerest condolences to you and all your family.
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Mornong all.
Sun shining in the Gorbals. New Shirt on my back. Off to Newcastle shortly.
Tinytim.
Txt me or call when you get there.
Look forward to that pint.
Hail hail
Estadio
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Heraldo
My sincerest condolences and my prayers.
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Mornong
Is an inflected exclamation sometimes used when waking up to find that inspite of all the excesses she of the 'rolling pin' is still talking to you.
It's one of those moments made audible, when feeling guilty you creep up behind her in the kitchen as she noisily bangs your Celtic mug down on the draining board, give her a surprise hug, and whisper a sweet nothing in her lughole, only for a mouthful of hair to get in your mouth and out it comes 'Mornong'!
It has nothing to do with mistyping because like an immature 8 year old I'm on tenterhooks about going to see Celtic.
Hail Hail
Estadio
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antsman
OK. But so that you don't misunderstand or misrepresent me.
I used Gordon Strachan as an example, because it was topical.
In fact what I said applies to the use of anyone's surname, yours, mine, Gordon Strachan's, Barry Ferguson's, the turnstile attendants.
Context is important and effect is as significant as intent.
"It's your round Montgomery" in the pub among mates causes me no offence. Embarrassment maybe, but ot offensive.
"Montgomery, get me a cup of tea" by my boss in front of everybody is disrespectful. And embarrassing.
Many of the references to "Strachan" that I read here and hear there are disrespectful. It's interesting to hear some people who knew him still refer to "Mr Stein."
Anyway, at least there's not many on just now so we're not boring too many people.
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This blog is being relayed to Times Square!
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Estadio
In India it's a square of colourful gossamer light silky material that your partner wraps loosley around herself in the morning. Sometimes, provocatively, worn with a mornthong.
On a good day, said partner will position herself between you and the rising sun, and you will know how blessed you are.
At least, so I've been told.
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Heraldo
Thoughts and prayers are with you at this sad time.
Gweedorebhoy
The loss of an unborn child is in my opinion, the cruellest hurt a parent can suffer and unfortunately its a pain my wife and I have felt three times. Being a father through all this is made all the harder by the feeling of utter helplessness that you feel.
All I can say to you is that I now have two cracking kids and when I look deep in their eyes I can see the ones that didnt make it playing and singing and dancing in heaven.
God Bless mate.
Mick
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Estadio
Are the crowds gathering?
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Chennai
Gathering like men off a double nighshift.:-)
Off now
hail hail
Estadio
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i was having this discussion yesterday with a friend and wondered if anyone had an opinion
The subject was bringing players through the ranks, what is required to make a player someone who becomes good enough for the first team
Is it down to
The players natural ability - is it a case of he either has it or he doesn't
The quality of coaching
The players ability to learn
The players ability to implement training learning into practice
if its mainly about natural ability, then surely its simply pot luck if people in your demographci are born with it and in this case all the coaches in the world won't make a huge difference
Is it mainly down to the quality of the coaching, if it is then with so many british teams bringing through few players is britain full of duff coaches
I think its a combination of them all, but i think the quality of coaching is the single biggest factor.
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Chenniaseabird
Young Naismith is a fine young player. I have been more than a little impressed when watching him playing against us.
I would not like to see him play for his boyhood heroes.
Kilmarnock are absolutely correct to demand fair recompense for losing his services. If in the end they do lose his services.
The last player we signed from Kilmarnock must have been Davie Provan and he was a fine player for us.
Someone posted many weeks ago that it may be a good idea to sign him and loan him back to Killie for 6 months or the whole season and see how he develops this season.
The only thing is I think he would beneift from training with the likes of Naka and Brown.
Anyway we will know when the dust settles.
Everybody going to the game tonight...have a good time and enjoy.
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Chenniaseabird
For what it is worth I totally concur that the use of The Manager's surname only is almost always tinged with a degree of disrespect.
For myself only The Manager or Mr Strachan will do.
Although he did say I could call him Gordon.
I also agree that there is a big difference between the way we can refer to players names and those with positions of authority within our club.
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Antsman
There are other factors to be considered not least who is in the pecking order in front of you, how good are they and how long a shelf life do they have.
The ability to finance a youth set up is also a factor. Many a promising kid has moved on from Celtic because money was an issue.
Timing and good old fashioned luck are also equatable.
Shay Given was at Celtic as a youngster as was Souness. There are several players who made it in the game who started at Celtic but made their names elsewhere.
There are so many more permutations to success than ability alone.
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Following on from yesterday's 'debate' on the team spirit and alleged split in the dressing room, perhaps this quote from John Kennedy may be a little inappropriate:
"He has got everything it takes: his coaching is great and it's rubbed off on the rest of the players. When you see them getting into the last 16 of the Champions League and winning the league again, it shows you the faith that everyone has in him. When you've got a manager you trust, the team plays better and I think we've done that."
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Gweedorebhoy,
My prayers go out to you and your wife at this sad time for you. May everything go well with your other child. I'll be making a special prayer to my given saint, Gerard.
Heraldo,
I will also remember the young man, Mark, too.
May they both enjoy eternal rest.
Gerard
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antsman
I think the natural character of a player makes a difference too, especially at Celtic. You'd need to be of sturdy stock to put up with the bile that rains down from the stands sometimes.
I think the general protocol for a youngster at Celtic is a rapturous welcome from the crowd as you come off the bench for your debut.
The adrenaline pumps, the crowd get excited as you fly up the park like never before, you beat your first man and it's a snowball effect. The crowd roars, and every touch thereafter is greeted with approval and a buzz that drives you on.
Everyone leaves (hail) hailing the 'new Dalglish' or the 'new Jinky' and then you hope for your first start, which comes against somebody like Motherwell on a freezing Saturday in February and kicks off at 3 in deathly Celtic Park silence. The adrenaline isn't the same and you're first touch lets you down.
Bubble burst. 20% of the crowd have already decided you're actually no better than Jamie Smith or Mark Burchill. Another 20% have arrived at the same conclusion at half time.
So regardless of all of the ability in the world, the best coaches and willingness to learn, if you haven't the character to do well in spite of your own 'supporters' then you ain't ever going to make it at Celtic Park!
Hail Hail
from a decidedly crabbit BK this morning cos I ain't going to Newcastle!
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test
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Kitalba
Was it not Lou Macari that got shoy of a young Shay Given.I dont think he rated him but then again his managerial record was not the greatest i think.
On tonights game against the Magpies, i hope that John Kenedy & Derek Riordan are given a chance to shine.
Hail Hail
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just catching up with a subdued bags of posts from last night.Clearly there are bigger issues in life than where young Naismith ends up playing,or what the manager gets called.
I think it does the blog much credit that people facing real problems in their life can take solace from the comfort of strangers,and I would like to send my best wishes to the families concerned.
You'll never wallk alone.
More than a song,more than a club.
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Couldn't have put it any better dbbia.
possilbhoy
It's better than that, he didn't 'not rate him' - more to the point he pretty much forgot to renew his contract.
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Anyways-the last player we got from Killie is Alan Mcinally,I think.
The most important factor in whether a youngster makes it in any sport is if they have sufficient singleminded determination and self-discipline to make it to the top.Luck comes in useful,but talent will only take you so far.
There is a general reduction in deference towards authority figures;which may or may not be a good thing.Latterly the former Prime Minister was routinely referred to as'Blair',in a way to imply disapproval of his policies.
So I think those supporters who are not convinced of the Ginger Helmsman's qualities will call him'Strachan'.
Good luck to the Lhads and Lhassies as they gan doon the Scotswood Road.
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If the strategy is buy young cheap talent and sell them on at a gain surely we're only ever going to make a gain if the player plays and improves?
I don't see where in the team Naismith is going to hold down a position, much like Riordan. Does anyone think Riordan's value has increased since he arrived?
If we do rate him (and I'm not sure I do personally) buy and loan back would be better for now or perhaps own a share like has been done in Italy. Thies may entice hime ot move on since it's been suggested he may reject a move 'sideways' to the likes of Hibs or Hearts. If the asking price is £1.5 then have Hibs pay the majority and have him play for hibs for two of his first 5 years in his contract. We guarantee to buy out the original asking price to Hibs and also guarantee them a share of his sell on. If we want to buy him off Hibs early we pay an agreed premium.
Everyone looks like a winner here and this is just for starters but why not show a bit of imagination and build on that type of idea. The boy gets a move to (slightly) bigger club, continues his development in a first team and has the carrot all the while of getting a really top move. Two years down the line we might even sell him for £5m without him having kicked a ball for us!!
Hail Hail
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To Gweedorebhoy & Heraldo
May the passing of time and with the love of all your friends and families help yous through this sad time and make you both stronger.
God Bless
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Kev. We said we were never going back there. Watch the game in the relative safety of your own home.
Were the fans right about Mark B and Jamie S. Or were the fans the reason they never made it ?
3-1 to the Tic.
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Great No.8
Apologies for not responding to your reply re Hartley (actually got bogged down with work).
In total agreement regarding the fact that he is better in a central role and you are right both thenational team manager and Mr Strachan have used him in a wider role. He is just not at his best there and it shows.
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DBBIA
Alan McInally came from Ayr United. In the right county though.
As did the wonderful Johnny Doyle.
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DBBIA
In the interests of accuracy, Alan McInally signed from Ayr Excited.
His dad, from whom he inherited the nickname Jakey, played for Kilmarnock.
The last signing we made from Kilmarnock was Tommy Burns, and we all know how the negotiations went on that occasion, with the Kilmarnock chairman of the day failing to find a decent answer to Fergus McCann's question: "If the guy is 'priceless', how come you're paying him 30 grand a year?"
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DBBIA
It is also comforting that the bhoys will be in the Gallowgate area of the Toon.
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Steelica
Don't forget Joe Filippi.
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Celtic First
In terms of accuracy Tommy and Billy had both resigned their posts before we signed them.
Be fair though I was meaning in terms of players and I am not sure Tommy was still playing that season. The season before his Killie team played Rangers in one of the cups and he was a hairs breadth away from putting them out when his delightful lob bounced and hit the bar.
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I'd have Naismith over Riordan, he has more to his game. I am indulging in a bit of tabloid tittle tattle in that I'm just not sure Riordan has made the step up to being a Celtic player.
Hope I'm miles out FM!
On Paul Hartley, the best performance I ever say from him was his Scotland (debut I think) performance against Italy in the San Siro when Andrea Pirlo (...) put Scotland to the sword. Hartley played on the right of a narrow 3 in midfield that night and was exceptional. This was after I had been gutted at O'Neill's attempts to sign him and was probably the first time I rated him as a player.
I'd like to see a midfield of Hartley, Donati and Brown playing narrow with Nakamura ahead of them. This then puts the pressure on the fullbacks to provide the width but they should be well covered by the discipline of Hartley and Brown covering for them. Much the same way as Italy and AC Milan (just the two most succesful sides of the last 12 months) play.
Forza Celtic!
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c1ST,Steelica-thanks for refreshing my memory.The Murray Walker CSC goes from strength-to-strength'unless I'm very much mistaken,AND I am very much mistaken!...'
C1st-Real Madrid playing at the Campo de O'donnell before the Bernabeu-any idea who O'donnell was?
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Paul67.
Glad to get back on-line,missed the last couple of weeks badly.
heraldo18.02.
No, I was'nt away on holiday,I just had big problems with the computer,cheers for enquiring.
Martin 21.37.
It was a pleasure meeting you also.
jimtim 22.20.
Thanks for those kind remarks,look forward to meeting you again.
And that goes for the rest of the posters on CQN.
Getting ready to go down to Newcastle for the game,hope I recover from the climb into the Gods,I'm in the top stand of the Sir John Hall stand.
I'll be glad to get posting again.
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Anyway mention of the great Tommy Burns reminds of the one of the games last season when he was presenting some award at either half time or at the start of the match. The sun in full burn down mode, not a cloud in the sky and TB emerged wearing a full length coat (not sure if it was his managerial camel hair one). My mate turned to me a opined "Tommy's being a bit cautious of the the weather!"
Nearly spate my coke out.
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Steelica-giving TBs medical history he was probably just obeying Doctor's orders and staying well covered up.
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DBBIA
More Leopoldo than Phil.
General Leopoldo O'Donnell was a nineteenth-century statesman and duke who served, for a short time, as prime minister of Spain.
A long street is named after him in Madrid, and I assume that's where the original football ground was, but there is no remnant of it now, as far as I am aware. I've certainly never noticed it.
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TMC
Sounds like a plan to me. I can visualise it with Skippy making the diagonal runs for the threaded Naka ball. Big Jan may not be the quickest to do this.
As long as Mr Strachan has a plan B,C,D,E..........
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DBBIA
You may well be right. Now it is time for me to check the memory banks because I am pretty sure this happened well before his cancer was reported or else I wouldn't have found it at all funny.
But my old grey matter is getting a bit Murray Walkerish as well.
I'm at the age when I'm begining to think about what I am here for.
I find myself going upstairs and going into the study and thinking "What did I come here for?"
So this may have been more than two seasons ago.
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possilbhoy
with riordan having played against airdrie last night i don't think he will even be in the squad tonight?
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new article posted.
Oldtim67, good to see you back.
