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Mon the Hoopps!
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That would be Hoops.
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is everybody in Geordieland?
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Paul67,
Tell WGS this guy is available for free.
Most sought after player two tear ago, Lost his way a bit at Man City. Good player though. Available on a free. I want a cut if he does go for him:)
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1-3 the hoops
good show please! ala QPR
HAIL HAIL
tbd
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Paul67,
Missed the link out:)
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WGS
is the player's name a secret?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatem_Trabelsi
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Evening all. I'm looking forward to the game.
I was wondering about what the thoughts were on what appears to an ultimatum from Mr Riorden?
Obviously he may be misquoted, but it would appear from the headlines I've seen that he is effectively saying: play me or I'm off at the end of August.
It's quite ironic that I think he should be given a run in the team ahead of McGeady, HOWEVER, if these stories are in any way accurate he should be booted out the door tomorrow.
Who does he think he is to issue ultimatums to the manager via the Daily Record??
If he has been misquoted he should say so via the official site.
MON THE HOOPS!!!
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On the question of watching players in the flesh, Nial Quinn is reported in the Irish Press today as saying that Sunderland have been ofered over one thousand players by agents in the close season alone.
Is it not time that FIFA looked at the role agents play in the game
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Come on the hoops..
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It appears that Naisal is about to hand in a formal transfer request. Interesting.
Is it still the rule that a player requesting a move receives a lower percentage of the fee?
If so, Huns offer same deal, Killie accept and the boy takes a cut on his fee, leaving Killie with more net money.
They get their man, Nais gets his "dream move" and Killie bank more of the money.
As yon cricket fella says, "Happy Days".
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Line-up tonight:
Boruc
Caddis
Naylor
Kennedy
McManus (c)
Hartley
Brown
Donati
McGeady
Vennegor of Hesselink
Zurawski
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Rob McLean talking about our success under Gordon Strachen: 4 trophies in 2 years and "some much needed credibility in Europe".
Eh??
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Sunderland also reported to be puting in a bid for naismith
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My pc died last nite and got a wedding tomorrow so pub is out, nightmare!
So any updates greatly appreciated lhads
Newcastle 2 Celtic 4
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gm
even the 4 four trophies in 2 years bit was negative
given that its two championships in a row.
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Just heard the first "sleeping giant" comment of the night ...
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We're in the Hoops.
Newcastle in a changed strip.
Teams coming out now.
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I like the look of our back 4
And the midfield.
C'mon majik,be the man you can be!
Come on the Hoops!
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WGS, I believe there are a few candidates (already watched) under consideration for the right back slot.
GM, there is possibly a lot going through Derek’s head at the moment. I have no idea what he said to the Record, but if he wants a move he needs to perform on the park.
I like the look of that line up Pete.
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Come on the Hoops.
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My Setanta is on the blink.
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My Setanta is on the blink.
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2 great tackles by jfk
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A very high tempo from both sides so far.
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hello everyone - good to be back
any radio links for the match?
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JH
john H
you got mail
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Paul, guys....
I honestly didn't see anything amiss in Deek's comments. Let's not over react. He'll make it (or not) based on his performances on (and off) the park.
Interesting team. Pity I can't see the game (till later).
Paul, Edward....what are we to read into the 'cash' issue re Rangers' transfer bids? Obviously, they won't buy a player that is outwith their budget. But why is there such an emphasis on small(ish) initial payments? Surely there can't be a cash flow issue at the time of year when all the season ticket money is flowing in.
What am I missing here...?
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We went a goal down a couple of mins. ago for anyone not watching.
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Weeron -
Wise words my friend re: Deek - we wouldn't trust the Daily Retard any other time so why now?
Keep posting the updates guys - some of us hermits don't even have a radio!!
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11 mins. goal for Newcastle, Martins.
Weeron, your info is correct, Rangers have bid very little money down, which is why Kilmarnock are not keen.
While their overdraft will be small at the moment compared to how it will be later in the year, the bank will have targets in place which will vary for the time of year.
European cash looks to be what they are counting on.
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Thanks sds. Hope that pic of mine never killed your pc.
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I see the official site has cottoned on to the CQN live updates idea!
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Keep the updates coming guys
they're much appreciated
My cable tv has been down since Tues, Thank god for CQN, or i'd have to start up a conversation with the missus..
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Paul,
I like the line-up too, but I'll tell you what I don't like: those "garments" being worn on the touchline by Gordon and the staff. Horrid. Awful stuff, really.
Pete
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28 mins. 2-0. Central defensive gap.
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2-0 to Newcastle. Luque nipped in as the defence stopped waiting for an offside flag (he looked on to me)
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2-0 I'm afraid
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Who are we blaming for the goal seeing as Pressley isn't playing?
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The defence is a shambles.
This could be an embarrassing result.
Come on lads.
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Donati has played well so far, and Zurawski has made some intelligent runs. Not seen much of Scott Brown yet.
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Pete, I thought Gordon has spilled something.
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McGeady with a cracking effort. Was going in, but good save from Given
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Aiden is playing well tonight.
Just had a shot from outside the box tipped over.
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McGeady has swapped sides to the right now.
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And back to the left again.
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Luque gets free again but hoofs it over the bar.
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fantastic bit of play from Celtic sends brown in on goal but passes instead of shoots.
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JVoH hasn't been too good tonight. Ball keeps getting stuck under his feet, or he gets disposessed.
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Evenin all.
Armchair viewing and so far, IMO, poor poor fare. McGeady despite his good shot at goal a second a go, is doing his usual running up dead ends and doing stepovers routine. No doubting the boys talent, but this season is when he has to learn it's ateam game and passing is allowed.
Magic and Big Jan look a bit leaden footed.
Donati and Naylor looking solid.
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Is Newcastle high altitude?? Is it 30C, are Newcastle further ahead in their preparations? NO?? So what excuses will someone offer for this showing so far??
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McGeady sporting a topper of s black eye.
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Celtic contrive to miss an easy goal after a bit of a mix-up
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Big Jan sleeping...misses a peach of a chance, a tap in from six yards...allows the tackle.
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40 mins. Zurawski won a knock on in front of Given, ball broke for Vennegoor, but he could not turn it in.
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Despite being 2-0 down we've had the majority of the posession. Newcastle just that bit more clinical.
3-0 Newcastle
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Three
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42 mins. 3-0.
Hmmm.
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unreal 3 shaggin 0
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Nearly 4-0. Defence taking a pasting.
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Cross from the right, not shut down, Kuque scores again.
Commentator says "I could watch that cross all night".
Unfortunately, Celtic defence are doing exactly that.
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Sorry, Luque
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OK, since I am sitting in an office in the US and can not see it.....where are the goals coming from? What are the failings in the defense? Are they coming through the middle as usual?
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Sounds like the mineshaft will be floodlit tonight.....
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What a dreadful performance. I feel sorry for the guys down there.
This is not even Newcastle's strongest side.
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Half time: Newcastle 3-0 Celtic
It has been a fairly even game apart from the fact that Newcastle are able to score at will when they test the Celtic central defence.
Celtic don’t have much urgency about them – apart from Zurawski, who looks keen. McGeady had had nice touches.
Defeat in preseason games is beginning to tire even me.
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half Time 3-0
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19:48, dontbrattbackinanger said…
"I like the look of our back 4"
Ouch!!!!
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3 - 0 down but that doesn't reflect the play. Some very good finishing is the difference. We've looked bright at times without creating more than half chances.
More worryingly, Artur looks to be carrying his left arm with some sort of injury.
McGeady, Brown and Donati looking good. Hartley not in the game, clearly not a wide player.
Let's hope for more in the second half.
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At 26/07/07 20:33, Johnny Mac said…
OK, since I am sitting in an office in the US and can not see it.....where are the goals coming from? What are the failings in the defense? Are they coming through the middle as usual?
Gordon Strachan is the failing. He does not know how to build a defensive unit, any fan from any other club he has managed will tell you that. He is probably sitting there thinking it ok I've gor Pressley to come back into the side.
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bizarre game. we are actually playing some nice stuff, but they look like scoring every time they go forward.
pluses: McGeady, Donati, Caddis, Naylor.
minuses:
1. defence is overall very shaky and naive looking
2. powderpuff tackling
3. JVoH- looks alarmingly uninterested
4. Zurawski- completely off the pace.
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You could hear GS during the game coaching and encouraging young Caddis along, which was good to hear.
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Bhoy Malloy,
Are you watching on Ch67? How is Caddis playing?
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Some ok passages of play in midfield but defence is very worrying. I have been a critic of bobo in the past but i still think ther's not a better defender at the club.
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Paul
McGeady playin' like he can...
good ....ah am pleased wi' dis young man...
Caddis is the Weakest Link...
My hopes fur him stayin on... is begins tae sink.....
Jvoh an' Magic ain't ur nae guid...
drap dem baith...
fur dey ur aff der food!
collie
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Gordon_J
Pretty reasonable account there.
If Newcastle don't want Luque, with Viduka, Ameobi, Owen and Martens, can we get him?
JK has looked a bit off, but the biggest disappointment for me is JVOH. And can we please stop the crosses coming in?
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Who is the common factor in all our CD pairings?????? I wonder? Could it be the boy who would be captain....maybe all the eyes should be looking in that direction instead of blaming everyone else.
As for "dontbrattbackinanger"....your thoughts were probably what the Newcastle forward line were thinking as well.
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"Your team's getting hammered. This is embarassing". Quote from Mrs GM who doesn't watch much football.
Unfortunately she is correct.
Boruc: looks to have injured his left arm/hand.
Central defense: look slow and lathargic against the mobile athletic strikers of Newcastle, Martins in particular.
Caddis getting a good work out against quality players.
Naylor: pretty dreadful. His crossing has been woeful.
The Golden Child: responsible for the first and third goals. Fell asleep and didn't track his man for the first and gave away the ball for the second.
Donati: still looks quality.
Skoosh: trying too hard.
Hartley:
JVOH: someone wrote earlier this week that he was a poor man's Chris Sutton. On his current form that is a big insult to Chris.
Both our strikers do not look sharp at all.
We have no cutting edge in the final third and the defense is wafer thin when stretched.
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JVOH ?
Where are you big man.
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Donati looks good- strong, determined, good range of passes.
Hopefully MacDonald will come on, and Killen (is he fit?)
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Is JVoH fit? either that or he's not interested in this game.
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3-0 down
hartley and JVOh non-existant.Can't waree re:browns performance, looks clumsy on the ball.
John Kennedy a treat to watch, immaculate.Spending a lot of time covering for the young right back tho and leaving himself exposed
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JVoH looks tired. Nothing is sticking to him at all, and his reactions seem dulled.
Donati looks like the man with the killer pass from midfield. Majic seems to be responding well to that facility.
Hartley shouldn't be playing on the right - he just isn't good enough for that role.
It's got to get better in the second half, hasn't it....?
G.
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My personal thoughts.......
3rd goal was a move for celtic breaking down as a loose flick on from McGeady was intercepted on teh half way line....Naylor was already on the overlap and basically we were left wide open on teeh left back area and a decent deep cross was flicked in by Luque with little or no challenge from JK as Boruc tried to block the goal bound flick.
Really poor goal to lose!!
Not really sure if I could blame anyone for losing 3 goals as defence is a shambles...we just look very very poor at the back and easy to pick off and open up.
I like the look of Donati but we get little real incisive play from Hartley...Brown busy but not bossing the game by any stretch of the imagination. McGeady having a decent game.
Up front Majiec and JVoH just don't look too troublesome...for NU backline...a few half chances but let's face it, they have had little supply by way of decent crosses.
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right and left back's are part of the problem tonight - neither can stop crosses into the box - at the same time - neither can send a decent cross into the opposition's box either!
Midfield is ok - but there's not enough movement up front when we're on the ball - and on the odd occasion we have found a front man, they have managed to fall over the ball.
Donati is the stand-out in the first half, with Aiden trying hard in second place.
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Why do some people think that every goal ever scored means the defence was at fault? Sometimes good attacking play gets its reward, as it did for Martins with a fine strike for the first
The second and third goals though came from good crosses that we did not defend well.
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ItaliaBhoy - You have 2 of our defenders as pluses and we have lost 3 goals......sums up the CD pairing.
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boruc -injured from 15 min. not replaced?
naylor- dreadful passing
kennedy/mcmanus -will be ok if they get a chance to play regular
caddis- not ready
brown - not happening
donati- looks good
hartley- ?
mcgeady - get off the wing. fault for 2 goals loosing possesion and not covering
zuraw - no confidence
jvoh - ?
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Boruc..nothing to do apart from obvious picking the ball out the fecking net
Naylor ..willing but leavibg gaps when caught upfield
Mick..no thanks form continuing i`m afraid
JK ..see above apart from couple good tackles
Caddis..seems solid pity for him he`s making his debut with two diddies at CB
Donati..composed , cultured looks to have Lennon like pace
Brown ..one good chance,,nothing else
Hartley..crap , can`t cross, corners are murder
McGeady..i think he`s our only out ball , little movement in front of him
JVOH..slow, soft ,concerning me..no Sutton or BBJ
Magic..a few intelligent runs ok
ref giving us nothing
could drive a bus through the middle of defence
NOT GOOD
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Defence. What defence? Every time Newcastle go up the park, they look like scoring. I think Naylor's distribution is particularly poor.
JVOH and Magic seem to be brushed off the ball too easily.
To me, the ironic thing, after the last couple of days on here, is that Aiden McGeady looks far and away our best player. Donati and Brown have produced a bit of decent stuff.
Here's hoping that's the last we see of Hartley (even if he might have beeen pulled back early on).
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So will it be ok for the Hun to beat us 3-0 since it didnt actually reflect the play?
The defence is gash and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Dont lets kid ourselves that this season will be as easy as the last 2.
Ok, wattie's signings might not have set the heather on fire but if they are motivated enough to play to the top of their game, while our admittedly better players continue to under-achieve, then we are in trouble.
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Looks like Artur is injured.
PH picked up where he left off.
Aiden - great on the ball but has left LN very exposed.
We have not won a header at the back so far - come on Bobo.
Donati - looks to be class.
Scott B too quiet.
But the big worry is JVOH - he looks slow and is losing the physical battles.
Teddy for PH.
Bobo for JK
Brown for Artur
please ......
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If they still play as high in this half then I would have Skippy on deffo and possibly Miller. JVOH not good tonight, and his star has been waning for some on here just lately, and Magic a bit more up for it and maybe a bit unfortunate not to have scored. We're needing a second for corners because PH aint getting the ball to our big men. Would like to see someone actually nullify Nicky Butt and maybe press tight to Solano.
It's a shame we looked nippy for the first part.
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Donati splitting them open with his passing can u imagine Naka in with him. Looks impressive.
Naylor left isolated on the left to defend on his own.
Why does McManus play offside when he has the guy covered bizarre.
I think big JK has looked alright.
Can believe when you see Bobo picking his nails on the bench that he can't get a game in the centre.
Paul67,
I pray to good we buy a dominating centre half. If not i fear worst. WGS aint that stupid is he?
Something not right with Jan. Magic??? Time is up for me.
We need a quality striker to take those chances. We could have easily scored a couple of goals in the first half if we had a goalscorer like Frei.
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At 26/07/07 20:39, Weeron said…
Bhoy Malloy,
Are you watching on Ch67? How is Caddis playing?
Setanta 1
The back 4 are rubbish m8. McGeady is my only +point.
They say that MON never had a keeper. Well they can say that Strachan never had a defence.
The days of the sieve are back with a vengence.
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Other than the 3 goals, Newcastle haven't looked particularly great.
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paul 67
a landmark even you are tired of defeats
bhoy molloy
you are correct and you don't even need to see
the game.
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Smell the glove.
Are you watching the same BJK?
First goal, who should have been closer to Martins?
Third goal, who couldn't cut out the cross before Luque.
Second goal, where was the CH marking.
He's having a mare, but seems we can't critise the big man.
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Pretty incredible that alot of posters are blaming the two homegrown players for the first half doing.
Kennedy was clearly at fault for both 1st and 2nd goals - out of position after getting sucked in behind McManus making the tackle and then slow to come out.
However I can accept we are playing JFK to give him as many games as we can.
The criticism of McGeady and McManus is over the top!
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I'm staying upbeat on the basis that these games are public training sessions, which have just got more public due to digital tv.
Easy for me to say here in my armchair. A lot of guys though have spent good money supporting the team and they're being publicly embarrassed.
I'd rather get humped here than in a real game. Having said this, Hartley doesn't look the part out right and more worringly, big JVOH couldn't trap the proverbial bag of cement.
There is no movement up front.
Defence is really worrying too!
Surely Gordon's first team is (if fit)
Boruc, Wilson, Naylor, Bobo, Caldwell, Brown, Donati, Nakamura, McGeady, JVOH, McDonald.
Subs JFK, McManus, Riordan, Killen, anothers
Would like to see this team given a run out before ECL action.
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Donati must be wondering what he has signed up to.
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I think the conext is important, pre season etc. Remember last season when we were played off the park by a Man Utd reserve team, but the real season went not too bad.
However, definitely a few things to worry about. Has anyone noticed how small our team is - I know young Caddis isn't a regular full back but you simply can't have players that size anymore, particularly in defence.
GS has made comment before about his concerns about the size of the players coming through - I watched a rerun of last season's reserve game and could not believe how small they the team was (with the exception of Cillian).
Where is the dig in the team? The biggest guy in the team (JVOH) is getting push about by guys half his size.
Where are the moaners in the team - criticise Lennon as much as you want, but at least he showed passion, regardless of how badly he was playing.
Need to get the finger out 2nd half and try to take one of the many chances that we have been creating so far.
GSC_BHOY
PS Good game from Aiden (just a pity he is playing on his own)
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I think the conext is important, pre season etc. Remember last season when we were played off the park by a Man Utd reserve team, but the real season went not too bad.
However, definitely a few things to worry about. Has anyone noticed how small our team is - I know young Caddis isn't a regular full back but you simply can't have players that size anymore, particularly in defence.
GS has made comment before about his concerns about the size of the players coming through - I watched a rerun of last season's reserve game and could not believe how small they the team was (with the exception of Cillian).
Where is the dig in the team? The biggest guy in the team (JVOH) is getting push about by guys half his size.
Where are the moaners in the team - criticise Lennon as much as you want, but at least he showed passion, regardless of how badly he was playing.
Need to get the finger out 2nd half and try to take one of the many chances that we have been creating so far.
GSC_BHOY
PS Good game from Aiden (just a pity he is playing on his own)
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Naylor is looking bad cause the McGeady aint tracking back giving him a hand. e.g first goal. Done it numerous times. Doesn't drop back when naylor goes as well hence the gaping hole to expose.
For the first 25 mins McGeady was gash. He brightened up in the last 15 mins. What a shot and a few passes?
You'll see Teddy on for Hartley McDonald for Magic. Riordan might come on as well for Aiden. Hopefully Bobo as well.
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Very very poor.
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TheGodfather,
don't see too many people criticising Mick and Aiden.
But I ask you are they playing well ?
Seville
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Godfather.
Cheers, I thought it was only me that could see the big man making mistakes.
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A strange game in that we have played some nice stuff.
I just think perhaps some players are not up to it or out of position.
Boruc looks injured and should have come off before the third goal.
Naylor is having a torrid time but it is Solano after all.
JK looks rusty played the man on for the 2nd goal but is covering for Caddis who is up against milner who looks the part.
Mcmanus seems solid enough
We played some nice stuff in midfield with donati and mcgeady up for it. Brown seems overawed which is natural with such a large travelling support. He will come good.
Hartly is out of position. When he played through the middle he looked his old self. He is not the cover for naka.
Up front JVOH is embarressing period. He needs a good shake and taken off.
Zurawski is lively but poor.
I hope to see Boruc rested.
Wilson on for Caddis
Hartley and brown switch
JVOh and Zurawski replaced by McDonald and Killen or Miller.
Newcastle are very flat at the back and pace could help avert a humilating defeat.
As i said strange game we played some nice stuff but we are very weak at the back and up front.
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Brown for Boruc,
Doesn't look like any outfield changes at half time.
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wgs
naylor's distribution is embarassing and you blame
aiden mcgeady?
dear oh dear - i've heard it all now
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WGS,
spot on.
too many fans just follow the ball.
75% of a good teams work is done off the ball.
Seville67whoisontheball.
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I really don't like criticising anyone in a Celtic jersey, but I really do feel that, looking at the bigger picture, this is a big season for Aidan McGeady. Tricks and stepovers are very entertaining but ultimately, there has to be an end product. I'm no suggesting he should score every time, just that he should bring more to the team. The support overall expect big things from the boy. Some have unrealistic, Ronaldinho like expectations. Me. I'd be happy seeing him improve his final ball and add half a dozen goals.
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Poor shot by Hartley our first effort of the half
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no changes us
newcastle..great deal of changes
come on
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Another shambles in defence. Stood ball watching as the ball went up in the box after a header at the back post.
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WGS, you asked the pertinent question: Are we planning to sign a central defender?
Yes, we are. Maybe….. two.
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Great challenge by Donati wins the ball for Celtic. Good Lhad.
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Celtic camped in the Newcastle half at the minute. Need to watch for the break as Martins has pace to burn
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McGeady gets a shot away after a little jink, but straight at Given,
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At 26/07/07 20:58, pfayr said…
no changes us
newcastle..great deal of changes
come on
Mark Brown and Scott McDonald are in.
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Neat skill shown by Caddis on the halfway line to go past his man and then release Zurawski on the wing.
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Another defesive blunder by Naylor and A.N>Other lets Carrol in, but Brown stands his ground. Shocking blunder
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bhoy molloy
McDonald ...where?
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We've started the half quite brightly but unfortunately the front two just aren't at the races.
Defensive blunder by Naylor...short passback...should have been 4.
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Should have been 4, a Naylor/Kennedy comedy show left a Newcastle striker clean through on Mark Brown.
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I heard Scotts name but have not seen him yet, so that may be wrong.