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first?
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2nd?
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3rd?
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COMPLETE PODIUM!!!!!
jonnybhoy.
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just noticed it is listed on setanta sports 1 at 18.00 so i think i might hold of and watch it as live then
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Welcome Frank Cannon.
Ni, many thanks for your kind words, I appreciate them. Friday was tangible evidence of the Celtic community at its very best.
Oldtim67, what an excellent point about Friday 13th.
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antsman my setanta sports 1 says the Everton v N Ireland game is on at 6pm.
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Paul
Many thanks for the radio link. Whatever has happened with the tv coverage by Setanta is puzzling.
Antsman
Where have you seen the listing? Sky listings suggest at 6.00 its Northern Ireland v Everton
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John
From previous thread
I’d love it.
I was a verbal member of the Brisbane Celtic supporters Club way back when. Now it’s evolved. A sight to see, on match night. O’Malleys pub could be the Gorbals.
This week I’ll make my membership official and in doing so I’ll bring back some of their neat polo’s.
You can view them online.
Brisbane Celtic Supporters Club. Get your orders in now.
Also I will bring back my Tri-colour.
Made in Kuala Lumpur, and present at more than a few, Young Ireland games.
I will personalise it slightly and will pass it on to anybody who will display it where it belongs
Celtic Park.
I’ve been hanging onto it for years in the hope that Celtic would visit here and since my house is visible on the flight path in, my intention was to cover my roof in welcome but it just doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.
It’s not the biggest but it ain’t small either.
Better at home in Glasgow, than a bed for one of my cats.
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Paul
I owe you.
Many, many thanks.
now how do I square my bill and my pledge.
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Any mileage in the Maloney wanting back story?
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Cheers for the audio link Paul.
I've told Estadio he can put those doos back in Trafalgar Square............
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I see the rags have Shaun Maloney homesick and desperate to return to Celtic.
If true, I sincerely hope we decline his wishes. Mid-table mediocrity and a fat(ter) wallet were more attractive to an injured Shaun Maloney than Glasgow Celtic Football Club and our rich, unique heritage.
You have moved on Shaun and so have Celtic. Loved you when you were here, couldn't care less now you have gone.
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U2
Afraid I disagree. I'd have him back in an instant.
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U2 1888- you're saying that you wouldn't like to see a midfield of Nakamura, Brown, Donati and maloney? I think that would be brilliant. Yes, he made a mistake, but if he came back, took our original offer, made some sort of apology/acknowledgment that he got it wrong, then he DEFINITELY improve the team. He is better than McGeady and definitely better than Riordan, and left midfield remains a worry for me.
I'd take him back in a second, and I think he would do really well for Celtic.
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derbyshirebhoy
I'm with you. I think Shaun made an excellent contribution to the team when he played, and i feel he would have made a difference to the teams play in the latter half of the season.
We all make mistakes and if he wants to correct his, I feel he should be given the chance.
Bangkokbhoy
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U2 spot on.
If Shaun Maloney was as good as he think he is he'd be some player instead of a nearly man.
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Anyone have an link to the game in N America?
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RE: Maloney
From a purely footballing point of view of course I would welcome him back, he would without question be better than McGeady and Riordin.
BUT
Would it not be a bit embaresing for the club, chaseing after a man who left our club and then decided he wanted to come back, sort of implies the man is bigger than the club, and I do not believe we should be seen to pander to his wishes.
Basicaly Im in two minds over this, he would add to the team, but should we allow him back or should we look elsewhere for new wing talent (Adu? Bjarnson?)?
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Ardoch
In what way is Shaun Maloney a nearly man? In his first full season in the first team he won player and young player of the year. He seems to have done all right for a nearly man, don't you think?
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re maloney
if the rumour is true then everyone deserves a second
chance. if he realises now what a mistake he had made
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hail hail
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If Petrov or Maloney return I will eat my whole wardrobe. A total non-starter FGS. After all the trouble they went to to reach the EPL they would consider themselves a failure to walk away after such a short period.
Really is a waste of type to even mention it:)
Appreciate updates from you guys that are listening into the game for us poor souls outwith the UK.
Noel, I know a few serial kitten killers, mostly of the blue kind:)
QPR 1 CELTIC 4
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SDS-
Is your wardrobe made of jelly ?
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Derbyshire et al,
We should agree to disagree. If he ever wears the hoops again he will get my full backing, but I don't think he should be given the privelage.
Shaun had one golden season and decided he would take the money and run. He was offered excellent terms by Celtic in the end, after a couple of rounds of negotiation.
The club is bigger than the individual.
Bobby Petta had a wonderful season and got a new contract on the back of it. We paid financially for that mistake!
If Shaun was worth "x" 6 months ago there is no way he is worth "x + transfer fee" now.
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I'm still looking for a link in N.A. Anyone able to help out?
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Celtic-
Boruc
Wilson
Naylor
Kennedy
McManus
Brown
Donati
Capone
McGeady
JVOH
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I think I missed someone out ?
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Boruc back between the sticks.
Wilson
Kennedy
McManus
Brown
Donati
Capone
McGeady
JVOH
Miller
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Boruc
Wilson
Naylor
Kennedy
McManus
Brown
Donati
Capone
McGeady
JVOH
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Boruc
Wilson
Kennedy
McManus
Naylor
Brown
Donati
McGeady
Capone
JVOH
Miller
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MILLER
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maloney is a better player than charlie nicholas was and we had charlie back when he was past it.
maloney aint at his peak yet.
after he left the football was painful at parkhead, i dont think that was a co-incidence.
id have him back in a heartbeat.
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Radio link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/mainframe.shtml?http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/london.shtml
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Celtic Support belting out "The Fields".
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Boruc catches an easy QPR header.
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whooosh , yo! peeps what gives????
well done on the aberlourdes success, pure jealous i was out the country at the time, ach well next year....
cmon the hoops ( the green an white wans)
slan
aldo
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Long range effort trundles through to Boruc.
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Not much happening by the sounds of things. McGeady's name being mentioned most by the commentators.
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Noel you cant be serious....
SP to return is surely inconceivable.....or is it sawdust in my porridge for the next 12 months??
I refuse to believe it.
Looks a decent line-up, big day for Capone if he's gonna make Newcastle/ US trips.
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This game is more like a pre-season friendly than.......
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SDS-
No.
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Teasing cross gathered by Boruc.....
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Thanks William!
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Miller wins a throw -in....
sets up JVOH-
WHO FORCES A CORNER...
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First corner to us. Chance for JVOH pushed past by the goalie.
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Penalty !
#
Celtic
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Who takes it?
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Still no penalty taker!!!!
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jvoh shot on target
corner to celtic penalty....must be a friendly...
capone in america?
"My rackets are run on strictly American lines and they're going to stay that way."
must be a golfer....
penalty saved....
hmmm
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JVOH Penalty saved.
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JVOH misses from the spot.
ANother corner.
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Looks like I tuned in at the wrong time - just in time to hear big Jan miss the pen. Tsk, tsk. Maybe I should duck out and check later.......
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Who/how was the penalty won?
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Miller won the penalty. Hand ball.
Miller sounding quite lively.
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McGeady hacked down.
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McManus wearing the captain's arm band today.
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malone> the sfa awarded the penalty to ensure our penalty tally adds up at the end of the season....
hmmmm
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The QPR fans' chants of "you wot - you wot - you wot, you wot, you wot" in response to our Bhoys and Ghirls singing the Celtic Song must be one of the most embarrassing chants in world football. Apart from a whole repertoire of Rangers' songs are there any other so bad / embarrassing?....
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Goal kick to CELTIC.
COMMENTATORS ARE MINCE.
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Good save from Boruc.
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shot saved by boruc...
yup noel the commentaters are a bit below the excellence usually afforded.....
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Mc Geady feeds Capone who feeds Miller.......
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who steps over the ball and lets it run by......
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Sounds like both teams look promising when they are moving forward, but little end product.
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capone long range chip over crossbar...
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Capone!!!!!
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Celtic upping the pace a little.
Goal !
Celtic.
dont know who scored yet/
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yesssssssssssssssssssssss
0..............................1
Capone.....................
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goal celtic...erm miller ? capone???
mcmanus asleep ...corner qpr
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Kitalba, plenty of time for that.
Goal for Capone! 0-1
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Vinny-
Capone ?
you sure.
These muppets haven't told us yet.
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Nearly an OG from McManus.
QPR corner comes to nothing.
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Do wot John, do wot John, with wat and whom and when?
T'riffic really t'riffic
Pardon? Come again?
Are we there yet?
Good to know Boruc is back, calm a few of the nervous types who thought he was being transfered......fools!:))
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Yeah Noel. The link that William gave me above has a radio link. He's almost scored again!
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Still don't know who scored it - was it Capone with the keeper palming it into the net maybe?.....Capone seems to be playing well and creating chances...
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Capone misses a sitter. Playing well by the sounds of things. He's playing on the right side of mid-field.
Celtic upping the tempo.
Another corner.
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McManus header goes just wide.
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Millar shoots......................
Good save from the keeper............
BigJoe:-)
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McGeady and Capone seem to be hurting them.
As I hear it...
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Haven't heard Donati or Brown's name mentioned for 15 minutes. Most of the play seems to be going down the flanks.
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Kenny Miller gives the ball away......
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Capone shot and the keeper pushed it into the net.
Rebus
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Scott Brown is involved. He has scored.
Rebus
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Skoosh 2-0!!!!!!!!!!
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the listing is on my virgin media tv guide
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not that im xenophobic but this commentary puts me in a position of imagining what it would feel like if i was to wanting to learn to speak english as a second language...and being given a videotape of 'eastenders' as a multimedia dictionary....
1-1 goal qpr....
i think.....
or have i just learned how to order a taxi?????
did i just hear
days out in brighton?
jeez.....
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McGeady makes the goal. Brown completes.
Miller seems to be usual self---tireless running; simple mistakes.
Donati and Naylor seem to be developing an understanding.
Rebus
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It's a repeat if they show Everton v NI. I watched some of it last night.
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Anyone know if the game is due to be televised later today? Setanta has the Everton game on at 6pm.
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rangers 0 Celtic 2
hope I see that score or similar at least twice times over the next 10 months:)
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Rebus - are you watching the game? If so where?
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Early days still I know, but is this the beginning of Younger/Faster/Fitter?
Sounds like we're moving the ball about quickly when we feel like it. This, as you know was a big problem last season.
Any idea of the average age of the side playing today....25,26?
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sdstim> absolutely....
apologies...0-2 celtic.....
i was too engrossed in the 'banter'
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aldo
There is a Channel 67 audio link too, I believe.
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Celtic holding possession to see out the half.
1 minute added to half.
Rebus
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Half time.
Rebus
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perhaps its different for cable but my virgin media tv guide deffo says 6 o clock qpr vs celtic
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2 nil at half-time.
JVOH missed a penalty and a goal keeping error gifts Capone a goal.
Wee Skoosh got his first Celtic goal after being set up by McGeady.
The Hoops sound well on top with Big Artur having little to do.
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I've been listening to updates from Radio Beijing.
As much chance of understanding them as those cockney geezers........
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sftb...thanx, i tried that....
i am using that browser to watch fckoln V galatasaray on the other live footy channel..... :-)
the london bbc commentary is a fascination case study on visiospatial communication.....
oooh theres a traffic jam on the westbound a34....
hopefully it will clear soon.
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noel :-)
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Aldo-
me old china plate-
hows yer apples and pears.....
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noel ah wiz on an a 'jet fighter'
me ol mucker, lol
rhyming slang
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Game was listed on live sport on TV as on Celtic TV - no sign of it of course
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btw .... nice to be here as a newbie. Hello to you all.
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Second half underway.
It's now raining in London. No changes from eother team.
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Pouring down with rain in West London.
Rod Stewart at the game.
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QPR come very close from a header.
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Bexter Blackstick just missed a good chance.......
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lol noel...havin a right belt buckle at these lads!
pachu welcome...
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Welcome pachucocadaver
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Donati should have scored.
Set up by McGeady again.
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sounds like a no bad game. they're fitness must be showing a bit more than qpr's.
my virgin tv is telling me it's on at 6pm on setanta 1.
Gordon quite rightly will make changes at half time.
i hope to see young theddy on at the left hand side of midfield and leave brown and donati on too.
who's are our sub's?
Emjay
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Bangkok a bit like your nearly in Phuket. He was a one season wonder.
pachucocadaver you've got me stumped, what's that rhyming slang for?! ;O) Bit worried about the cadaver bit.
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Sounds like the londonrangers are making a game of it in the second. Clatteringsa and rain lying on the surface
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Celtic come close again. A shot from McGeady, I think.
The heavy rain is making things tricky.
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These commentators almost make me miss brown and hately.
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JVOH - goal 3
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3-0 jvoh !
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Commentators are asked if Capone has impressed. The answer? Probably being played out of position
JVOH scores 3...0
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JVOH scores after great move.
Rebus
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0-3 celtic ...jvoh
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3:0
JVOH
Sounds like WGS is going to be allowed to continue managing us, at least until the US trip :-).
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Gemme's a bogey.....Get in there big Jan!
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Sounds like a powerful run from wee Skoosh set up the JVOH goal.
Sounded like a cracker.
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welcome pachu,
that's the thing i'm hoping for this season.
a bit of steel in our team. we were too nice last season.
i agree. londonrangers sound like they're trying to outmuscle us.
hopefully we are getting close to having the men to cope with this.
Emjay
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Commentators are asked if Capone has impressed. The answer? Probably being played out of position but is fast, has a lovely left foot and is aware of what is happening on the field.
They have also picked Brown as MOM.
Great try by Millar after very good work by Capone.
JVOH 4...0
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4 jvoh
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....and eh......gemme's a bogey....Get in there big Jan again!
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Commentators are now talking in admiring terms about The Hoops.
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0-4 jvoh...
celtic fans now giving it laldy with
' by lonely flowery dell....'
i think...
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"afairsmatteringofthebreenandwhitetarmey"
anyone care to translate ?
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Crowd in great Celtic voice.
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Capone won't go to the States - presumably decision time today then? or invited back for further look if he doesn't get a gig elsewhere????
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QPR bring on three subs--mainly defenders.
Rebus
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Commentators have just been asked how Rangers would do in EPL? Answer "mid-table!"
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QPR have free kick on the edge of Celtic penalty box. Weak effort.
Corner to QPR.
No changes to Celtic yet.
Corner cleared.
Rebus
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Breathes deeply and recites...
It disnae man anything it's only a pre season friendly
It disna mean anything it's only a pre season friendly
It disnae mean anything it's only a pre season friendly
Good but, isn't it?
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My commentary has now being taken over by cockney aliens.
I give up.
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Some of the analogies these commentators are using are bizarre!
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well pleased to see big jan get off the mark.
there's a few folk starting to doubt his ability in a celtic jersey. probably after seeing davy weir keep him quiet in the last meeting.
i for one think he's the business. he needs an injury free run and a quality partner.
Emjay
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I nominate Scott Brown for leader of nation... In fact, get him to sort out that Isreali-Palestine situation. With that sorted, he can end all wars, more generally, solve the environmental crisis, and ensure that everyone on earth has food in abundance.
Even if we did that, the rags would still say he wasnt worth 4.4million
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MacDonald, Caldwell and Irvine coming on for Celtic.
Rebus
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McDonald on for Donati
Hartley on for JVOH
Irvine on for Naylor?
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noel must be a reference to dan breen...and a 'tarney' is a small trouser suit commonly worn in the E14 region....
BLUFF
welcome to the cuddly cokney version of 'call my bluff'
reminds me of that viz character....
oi! wankah!
hope this isnt too close to the bone...dog and bone....
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Hartley, McDonald and young Gary Irvine on.
Donati, JVOH and Wilson off.
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According to the C67 commentary, the "QP Aryans" are quite quiet.
I'm away out with my good lady for some prawns.
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Correction!
Hartley on not Caldwell.
Rebus
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QPR score.
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JVoH off - Hartley on
Wilson ooff - Gary Irvine on
Nice to see him back in contentoion again - he had a good friendly against Licester in which he broke his foot
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Boruc lets one in
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Somebody just scored for somebody.
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QPR score on 66 minutes. goal made after nutmegging Naylor.
Rebus
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so who's up front? i was hoping for more of the JVOH & Skippy show!!!
Emjay
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Just tuned in the Channel 67 to hear QPR score. Can we not have new commentators, please? Must be a Jonah. Still, 4-1 not bad. Seems McManus is to come off, hobbling.
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McManus limping. Will he be subbed?
Rebus
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Nice too see young Irvine back in contention. He was a great young player until injury stopped his progress.
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Where has all the JJB "bees and honey" gone?
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I think I heard the QPR player ran 35 yards unchallenged.
Sounded a poor goal to lose. Hopefully some confusion after the subs.
Miller misses another chance. He's had a few today.
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Anyone know when it will be shown on TV?
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right that's it. lennon must go...em..sorry!
would've been nice to keep a clean sheet all the same.
never happy eh?
Emjay
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im getting a weird echo ..as if ive just put the radio in a dustbin....
its like listening to space ritual by hawkwind with doctor who on the telly in the background.....
cybermen have taken over the commentators
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Jarosik now on
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Mr Jiri on. Don't know who went off.
Poor commentators.
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McGeady tearing them apart by the sounds of things.
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big mick hobbling off. you can never have too many defenders.
we may need to hold onto big bobo or we need to buy.
we've got a cup final in a few weeks time.
Emjay
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McDonald shot saved. Set up by McGeady.
Resulting corner comes to nothing.
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McGeady nw inside and impressing the commentators
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Our Southern Commentators - And QPR have just blasted themselves back into this game...
Erm... It's em 4-1 to eh Celtic guys.
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aldo
Ripper description of this commentary ;-)
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Penalty denied!
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Macdonald nearly scores. Corner Celtic.
Prediction: MacDonald will be the darling of the Celtic support by season end.
Rebus
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Can't believe we conceded one - I am gutted - that's it, the season card is getting bent in two, then bent back on itself a few times making sure to cut through the "chip" (for identity theft prevention reasons you understand) then I'm struggling to rip it up and throw it in the bin.....if we don't improve ;-)....
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Commentators impressed by Brown. Miller through, McDonald scores.
5 -1!!!!!!!
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5-1 millar
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Millar cuts back to MacDonald who scores.
Rebus
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5-1 skippy
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rebus,
looking forward to watching skippy if the game is on tonight. from what a lot of the guys have said in the previous games he is making intelligent runs off the defenders much like that swede we had!!
an eye for goal too!
Emjay
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25 minutes to go. Commentators expecting more goals from Celtic.
Free kick for us, but comfortably saved by the keeper.
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This so good. Last year we had to come up with "friendlies don't matter" but they do in terms of team fitness, team cohesion, structure of team and most importantly of all, competition for all positions
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as the late great tommy cooper said...JUST LIKE THAT!!
GO ON SKIPPY!!
Emjay
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Signing off for a cup of tea. The match is well won, and Celtic played well. However, let's not get too excited, QPR are well short of fitness and even then are not officer material.
Great confidence booster for Celtic.
Rebus
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RANGERS 1 CELTIC 5
Do I like that
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Old Bear-
where did all the money from the 9-In-A-Row game go to ?
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How long has it been since we scored 5 goals?!
By the sounds of it our midfield is controlling a game (for once), Scott McDonald will score a lot of goals for us, I'm not 100% about our strikeforce but he'll be a good signing.
Still not happy with the CB situation. No genuine quality back there and we'll leak goals as a result.
Skoosh gets MOM by comentators.
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paul 67> any truth in the rumour that the blog will go all cockney for the remainder of the night?
such as...
sundayroast a comment>
(post a comment)
mickeymouse>
(home)
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Wee Deek on. Skoosh off. Wee Skoosh is the commentators MOTM. McGeady and Miller also getting plaudits.
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Celticlover
Lapping it up. What a pity its not on the box.
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Have just finished playing a teie on the New at St Andrews (lost on the 17th). Didn't mind as the guy was a better player and a Bhoy to boot!
Unfortunately he told me was an eye witness at one of the Riordan pub incidents. Very, very disappointed.
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Been told that Celtic have been allocated 6,000 tickets for the game at Newcastle on Thursday, July 26.
Will that be enough?
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Not much happening. Both sides have made a few substitutions, which has disrupted the flow of the game.
McGeady off and Jim O'Brien on.
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celticlover,
the riordan thing. seems like the reason why Gordon is not playing him so much.
Professionalism on and off the park is what is required under WGS.
I'm hoping Gordon and possibly the older players at CP sort him or that obvious talent he has will go to waste.
Well played Celtic. Another 90 minutes of fitness gained.
All gearing up for our 2 leg cup final in a few weeks time.
Emjay
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Shot by Miller saved by the keeper.
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As far as I can see on Setanta and Celtic TV etc there is no coverage of the QPR game tonight.
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Kenny Miller still can't hit a barn door by the sound of things. Shocked i'm not, get rid of.
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These commentators are complete idiots. It's a scandal if license fee payers money is being used to indulge these fools. On the football front it's sounded promising. Maybe we will see some of McGeady in the middle rather than wide in midfield this season.
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I'm sure that the story I was told is accurate and I would not have Riordan in The Hoops again.
I didn't think that Rangers should ever have played Gascoine afer he beat up his wife.
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Sean South
It may not be enough if we sign Michael Owen between now and then :-)
He could be a useful back up to Skippy.
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Sean 26,000 might be enough
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Martybhoy-
those blokes are more used to commentating on 18 holes of cricket........
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Full time at Loftus Road:
QPR 1 (0) Celtic 5 (2)
Trialist [Capone] (22)
Brown (39)
Vennegoor of Hesselink (55,57)
(65) Kiru St Aimie [sp]
plɐuopɔɯ ʇʇoɔs (72)
Sounds to have been a cracking game. Big Jan could have had a hattrick, as he had a first half penalty saved, too.
Sort it out, Setanta. :-(
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5-1 FINAL SCORE.
Impressive performances from Brown and McGeady. Two goals from JVOH is most welcome.
Miller sounded lively, but failed to score.
Sounded a comfortable victory.
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5-1 FT. Seems to have gone well.
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Meaningless pre-season friendly-
counts for nothing.
Aye right.
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Same result on Tyneside please:-)
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celticlover,
You need to watch what you say you heard from a source regarding thses things.
accusations can become headlines quickly.
i think we all know he needs guidance and we should leave it at that.
Emjay
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plɐuopɔɯ ʇʇoɔs could score quite a few goals for us this season.
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paul67.
Sounded like a good game,happy with what I heard from the c67 commentators.
Glad to hear that their trying to show the goals shortly on channel67.
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Emjay-
he has already appeared in court over it.
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full time...(lager and lime?)
1-5 ...
roll on next game...
my 'gooseberry pudding has just came home with the 'saucepan lids' so im off to make dinner...
slan
aldo
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noel,
is he waiting on the verdict?
Emjay
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Not good to hear about Celtic fans invading the park at the final whistle- no matter how few or how well behaved.
A stand-off developed between angry Celtic fans and stewards over what seemed heavy handed stewarding.
But our fans should know that you don't go on the park: End of story.
With Gordon Smith running Scottish football next season expect heavy punishment for even the most minor Celtic indiscretion.
We have to be whiter than white.
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26,000 going to Newcastle- you are at the wind-up.
I know we took a record 25,000 to Man U for the Keano game last year.
I would have predicted 10,000 max at Newcastle-especially with it being holiday time.
But what do I know?
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Noel .
You and I think alike,
no such thing as pre-season friendlies,if they had got beaten to-day, I would have been sick as a parrot.
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Emjay-
the trial is back up on August 6th for its 4th day.
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At 15/07/07 16:02, Sean South said…
26,000 going to Newcastle- you are at the wind-up.
Yes, an exaggeration, for a friendly:) I would think we could sell double that, given the good results we are having(albeit friendlies but compared to lat year..) and the 'closeness' of Newcastle.
But what do I know, ain't lived in UK for years. You match-goers, what do you think??
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That's double the 6,000 I mean
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BREAKING NEWS
I JUST PHONED VIRGIN WHO TOLD ME
"IT WAS ORIGONALLY MEANT TO BE ON CELTIC TV BUT THERE WAS A PROBLEM, THE CELTIC GAME IS ON SETANTA SPORTS 1 AT 6 P.M."
AS TOLD TO ME BY PAUL AT VIRGIN MEDIA CUSTOMER SERVICE
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antsman
You may well have made my day! I'm watching interminable cricket drivel waitingf rthe goals on Sky Sports News.
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paul67.
You've mail.
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Oldtim67,
I told you last week that meaningless friendlies dont matter.......except when we win 5-1 :)))))
Sounds like the bhoys done good.
I am really looking forward to Mr. Skoosh Broon playing in a Celtic shirt this season.
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Matt / Noel,
put me out my misery! hoe do you do plɐuopɔɯ ʇʇoɔs upside down?
WOW now that's magic!!
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it might have read better if I'd spelt how right!!!
TMM
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TMM- you just need an antipodean keyboard. :-)
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(-؛ sıɥʇ ǝʞıl
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matt that was so good you posted it twice!!
TMM
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Antsman and Derbyshirebhoy - hate to spoil the mood, but I'm just off the phone to Stewart at Setanta after holding on for 15 mins and he confirmed they won't be showing it at 6pm. He explained the reason is because the local council at QPR banned Setanta from broadcasting live from QPR's ground which ties in with the "no permission obtained" post on here earlier. When I asked if Setanta had plans to show the game on any of their channels in the near future he said probably, but they don't have this information available to them yet. He did happen to mention that Setanta were furious about the situation as well as ourselves, but that doesn't really help matters just now does it?.....best bet will probably be just after the hour on Sky Sports News - they ususally tend to do a round up of the friendlies and they did show our goals v Peterborough before anyone else.
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Pics from today-
Pic 1
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Pic 3
Pic 4
Pic 5
Thanks to The Huddleboard.
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˙˙˙˙˙˙˙uʍop ǝpısdn ƃuɐɥ ı sɐ ʇǝǝɟ ʎɯ ploɥ oʇ 09 sɹɯ ʇǝƃ ʇsnɾ ı
-ɥdɹnɯ pɐɯ ǝɥʇ
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Noel- is Mrs 90 vertically challenged?
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caoimhin dublin
thats disappointing and why they have not communicated that to virgin media is beyond me then.
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Bhoys - just jumped on to Sky Sports News there - saw the Capone goal and they said "and we'll bring you action from Loftus Road where Capone was 'untouchable' "
Somebody with Sky+ that's more gifted than me should get ready to record soon and post to share with the rest of the Bhoys and Ghirls.......
All our hopes on Setanta, Celtic TV etc and who comes up with the goods in the end?......Sky Sports.
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JVOHs Penalty Miss
I think.
VVPoor quality.
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Noel if Mrs90 sees that yer for the high jump I suspect:)))
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Bhoys and Ghirls - they've just shown the goals on Sky Sports News. Very good I have to say. Big Jan's first was reminiscent of his his goal against Livi in the Scottish Cup last season. Capone's shot was good and from distance, but the keeper made a mess of it and should have saved. Brown stroked his goal away very nicely as well. Wee Miller (and I'm not a fan) showed good composure and vision to pick out Skippy for his goal too.
Sky Sports News usually repeat their news each hour so anybody that missed it this hour, if you're able to tune in, it should be on about 18.10.
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Hi,thanks for the updates guys,sounded like a good game.
What a great site this is,i phoned setanta on friday after the pricing debate on here 9.99/14.99 and got my payments reduced to 9.99,cheers guys some good advice,i probably wouldnt have bothered and continued paying the fifteen quid every month.
Saying that, it was a bit disturbing to hear Jock Broons voice again!
Well done to paul and the rest of the guys who attended the golf day out and raised all the cash for charity..good on yous.
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Skoosh.....you look at him in those pics and it reminds me of an actor in those old b&w gangster movies, haven't got who it is yet but it will come..
....any auld hauns see what I'm babbling about??
And him and Capone linking well apparently....
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...one of the presenters on Sky Sports News is a QPR fan - his colleague was ripping into him when they'd finished showing the goals....."it's not looking good for your boys is it"......
I love getting carried away with positive pre season friendly results......
Interesting post about the 15 quid versus tenner for Setanta lynott67...think I'll get on to them and argue my case as well.....
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caoimhin dubh
Based on stuff on this site a while back, I phoned setanta yesterday , having seen a full page ad for 9.99 a month and told them that if they didnt reduce my subscription from 15.00 to 9.99 I'd just cancel and reapply immediately at 9.99.
They changed it with no fuss whatsoever.
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The sites gone quiet at the moment,so if anyones interested in an article about the late Patsy Gallacher.
Heres how to get it,its worth the read.I went into google and typed FRIENDLY MATCHES PLAYED BY GLASGOW CELTIC and it came up with the above,I'm using caps to highlight what I put in but use small case in the search bar.
on the first page go down to untitled document and read, it's worth it.
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TLWIO - sound, yet simple advice - cheers!
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Ardoch
Cheers for the reply.
I don't get it though. Care to explain the bit about me being nearly in Phuket?
I agree though, so far he has only been a one season wonder. But what would you expect from someone who has played only one season. for what it's worth, I really don't expect him to return to Celtic Park as our player. Mind you, i'll be sick if he has a great season at villa next year and they punt him for a fortune!
Just seen the goals today and they looked good though it looked a fairly weak defence. We looked to be playing pacy football but the video might have been speeded up a bit:-)
http://www.motiono.com/watch/CroSoooN
BangkokBhoy
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Re setanta,as long as you are over the original years contract i think you have a case.I told them my neighbour had just got the tenner package and to quote the legend that is the bunnet,quite simply a 'no brainer' for me to pay fifteen quid.I was politely told to hold on as the they arranged my new tenner subscription from august.
If that fails, tell them your not happy about Broon back in toon.
I really hope Broon's not doing the commentary on a regular basis.
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Oldtim67, mail back with you.
Cheers lynott67.
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QPR 1 CELTIC 5
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Nice one Bangkokbhoy and Noel ;-)
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Looked like a decent performance today, some descent goals. Pity we didn't see a bit more to have a better look at Capone.
John Gregory said we were outstanding and WGS sounded pleased, also praising the fans.
Argentina v Brazil to look forward to at 10pm!
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Gordon J-
is that a 10pm kick off ?
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Noel,
Program starts at 9:30pm on Sky Sports 1 and 10pm kick off.
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Bangkok your nearly being in Phuket was merely a comparison with shaun being nearly a great Celtic player. Not quite there.
How can you suggest Maloney only played for Celtic for one season? He floated around the first team for years and did nothing very much other than have one good season.
As for Villa selling him on for a fortune, I wouldn't be too concerned that this may happen.
Notafanofshaun.
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We scored a few decent goals today. Pity we couldn't see them live.
It looks like wee Skoosh scored one and set up two.
Gravesen, Jarosik and Naylor have taught me never to pre-judge players before they've played a number of games for the club, but Brown looks a very exciting prospect.
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Cheers Gordon.
Now I just need to convince Mrs90 of the need to watch it......
Patsy Gallacher
OldTim found this.
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for me scott browns goal was the pick, i was a bit concerned about the fee we paid for him but this lad lookd better and better the more i see him, left foot as well
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for me scott browns goal was the pick, i was a bit concerned about the fee we paid for him but this lad lookd better and better the more i see him, left foot as well
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sdstim,
George Raft ?
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Rangers 2-1 up in a friendly.
Seeeeeeeeeeebo and Novo [with a penalty]
Cuellar sold the jerseys for the reply.
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Emjay
I agree with you re. rumour, tittle tattle, etc. but I treated my fellow golfer as I would if I was cross questioning him in Court:
Q Were you in the pub at the time of the attack?
A Yes
Q Can you identify the attacker?
A Yes (pointing at the accused).
Q Did you see the accused attack the victim?
A Yes
Q Did the accused have a glass in his hand?
A Yes
That is why I think that the story, unfortunately, has a fair substance of truth in it.
Noel
There is a trial ongoing but it might be for a previous fracas in another Edinburgh/Leith pub. I'm told that the victim in the incident with the glass might not have brought a charge.
That
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Noel.
Thats the one,your s--- hot at that,thanks,
It's worth a read if your interested in all things Celtic,very hard lives they had in those days.
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Ardoch
I realised what you meant as I posted. i was thrown a bit because i do now live in phuket and wondered how you might have known!
I know Shaun hovered around for a few seasons but he do you think he could really have broken inot an established team? What i meant was, when he got a chance to get into the starting line-up, he did have a pretty good year. I understand why you consider him as a one season wonder, but I see it as someone who worked there way into the first team. I agree he's missed his chance of being a Celtic great.
Anyway, he's no longer one of ours, and hopefully by the looks of todays midfielders we seem to eb doing fine.
Maybe Naka will struggle for a game when he gets back!!
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For what it's worth: if there is any substance in the rumour about Shaun Maloney, I would have him back in a minute. We DID play better when he was in the team, even the few games he had last season.
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Nice to see us slap home a few goals for once, from the short clips we seem to be moving the ball about pretty well - especially for JVofH's 1st goal.
Onwards to America then, I think I read that the All-Stars had never lost before - be a good time to play well.
tmc
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2-2 with Rangers and the amateur team.
FF Mineshafters [I'm one] getting the picks and shovels ready...........
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Noel
as always - thank you.
For some reason the radio commentators could not do our play justice.
I pity any slack SPL defences this season - I think we're back to barrow loads guys. Could be/Is the start of a great young team.
Well done bhoys - and I thought our fans were immense - again.
U.
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Looks like a good game. All the goals were well worth a watch, including QPR's.
I said before that I didnt like the look of Capone (judging by the Youtube footage and the fact that he struggled at Cagliari) but he looked like a player today.
Anyone else getting carried-away with their thoughts on Brown? I hate to tempt fate, but that boy looks like the real deal.
I dont know that Naka will "struggle" per se, but it certainly looks like we'll have midfield options a'plenty next season. Though, I cant see Adu or Maloney complicating things for us. Paper talk nonsense.
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I can't get Noel's link to play.
Are there any other links to the goal's?
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fighting the fuzz...looks can be decieving but in this case I dont think it is.looks the part to me.
was born to wear the hoops that boy!!
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Interviews
by Kublacan
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At 15/07/07 18:27, Tom the Tim said…
sdstim,
George Raft ?
Yes certainly! The jawline.. but a bit of a mix with Bogart I think, but that nose...?:)
Just look at the photos being posted of the Ghuy, determined concentration in all of them, don't want to jump the gun on any expectations but he has an aura about him; he is going to develop greatly as a player this season now he has an appropriate stage and we'll be thankful it's with us.
Hail Hail
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Thanks for the videos Noel.
Top bloke.
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Cheers Noel
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re-Shaun Maloney.
If it's true that Shaun is suffering from home sickness I'd have him back in a minute,It's an illness that a lot of people suffer from, including myself, and theres an added bonus if he does comes back,he wont want to stray again.
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We heard all the same with stan i am taking it with a pinch of salt.
my biggest concern remains - not sure many agree- that we have quantity not quality in the centre back position, and wgs will think we are well equipped there.
interestingly i see jarosik and grav again saying they are not looking to move
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ftfs 1888.
you better believe we've got a good one in Scott Brown,you can tell by the way he struts about,and the best bit is, he knows it.
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Tinytim-
this work ?
QPR 1 CELTIC 5
Richie-
far smarter Celtic fans than me do the hard work of uploading the clips.
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anyone know who it was that burst through and played in kenny to cut back for mcdonald
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Thanks again Noel,i had volume this time.
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Sorry for another lenghty(ish) post Bhoys and Ghirls - Spotted these quotes from a guy that ironically calls himself "King Of Hoops" from a QPR forum....here's the first one.......
"If you were not here you would look at 5-1 and think the worst.
If you were ther you would know that there was plenty of positives to come out of the match. We were the better team for the first half with a half strengft team and with a similar half strength team did ok against a full strength Celtic team (4 games into their friendlies). For al, you doom and gloom merchants it was not as bad as the scoreline suggests, I am more confident after going than I was before."
Hmmmm - were you watchin' the same game I was listenin' to mate?!!!...
Anyhoo - later on in their blog somebody asked him how Celtic played and this was the response from the same guy....
"The Argi , I think he was Caponi looked good and Miller and Van Hessalink looked a tidy partnership. In all Celtics defence was more composed than the normal championship outfit and created more time on the ball to clear dangerous situations than a standard championship defence would and therefore didn't put themselves under the pressure that we are used to seeing. Plus Boruc made a couple of outstanding saves when called on."
OK, so he was off the mark with Capone's nationality, but interesting to hear his views on on the composure of our defence today.
I for one think our central defensive partnership should be McManus and Kennedy. Both these Bhoys have proven they can cut it the majority of the time they play. Graham Taylor once said that ALL defenders make mistakes, the very best ones just make less. All our defenders (and Goalkeepers for that matter) will continue to make mistakes, but it's not something just peculiar to Celtic and we should all remember this.
In my humble opinion the central defenders that have looked most composed on the ball, have a presence and can acutally DEFEND are the two that came through our own ranks and played for most of the game today - McManus and Kennedy. I hope WGS gives these Bhoys a few more games together before our CL qualifier.
Pressley - not good enough I'm afraid big man.
Caldwell - not physical enough for a defender imo and whoever said this guys passing was great, well.......
Bobo - I love the guy - he scares forwards and can defend, unfortunately, he makes a few too many mistakes
O'Dea - another that's came through our own ranks and I think he could make it if given the chance.
Can't wait for our next pre-season game........
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Caoimhin Dubh -
Good stuff.
A lad from The Huddleboard who was at the game says Scott Broon was immense.
Seems like losing Lenny has changed [for the better] the way we play.
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Congratulations to all those involved at the Golf Day, a terrific boost to the Glasgow the caring city charity.
Great to see the players enjoying getting on the scoresheet today. There is going to be tremendous competition for places this season.
This is the dawning of a new era,
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Noel (et al) - I don't want to speak too soon, but I am CERTAIN Skoosh will be an immense player for Celtic. In hindsight, Neil Lennon will be viewed in general terms as a fantastic player for Celtic (not necessarily a fantastic ambassador given some of his antics when his passions took over), but again in my opinion, Neil had definately one, maybe even two seasons too long at the club he adores. Yes, he was dependable at doing the simple things the majority of the time, but in no way could anybody describe Neil as being "dynamic". This is where wee Skoosh comes into his own. From what we saw of him at Hibs and from what we've seen / heard of him so far in these visually challenging pre-season friendlies, I think we all have a lot to look forward to.
WGS said when he arrived at Celtic that he was looking for fast, passing, flowing football, which I'm sure was music to our ears. I always challenged this for as long as we had players like Alan Thompson and Neil Lennon in our team. (incidentally - I liked Thommo too, but he was certainly no speed merchant!!).
The average age of the starting 11 next season will hopefully have come down a bit and I am honestly more confident of retaining the SPL Championship this season than I have ever been.
Paul's cliched "Generation of Domination" should be coming ever more apparant to us all as the season unfolds......... I hope.
Am I getting carried away after a 5-1 victory against a poor outfit?!!! Who cares!!
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Antsman said...
my biggest concern remains - not sure many agree- that we have quantity not quality in the centre back position, and wgs will think we are well equipped there.
I agree re the CB position....but I don't know why you would make the comment about the manager, Antsman.
Both at striker and central defence, we have a bunch of decent players, but no-one that is truly top quality....maybe JVOH. Maybe.
The manager will know this as well. He won't say so for very obvious reasons. He might not do anything about it this window, for equally obvious reasons.
Have a wee bit of faith.....:)
Paul, I know that not everyone buys into your GOD theory. I do...a bit, but not completely. But I will if we make the CL and t'other mob don't. Any thoughts on how damaging that scenario would be for Edward's mob?
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Paul67,
As a believer in your GOD, I am beginning to think that we may be on the brink of what our manager has been promising us from Day 1: a team of fast, flowing football. Stuff of dreams. Scott Brown seems to be central to that. My mate, who predicted as much when we watched him kick us all over the shop at Parkhead (I only saw him kicking us) 4 years ago, said much the same about a very young Gordon Strachan who was then playing for Dundee. He reckons Brown will be every bit as good.
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Hello there
Long term reader, first time poster. Was listening to the radio feed (Thanks for the link by the way) and everyone in my household is rather pleased with the way things are going.
Have to agree with the need for a quality centre back. Cover at full back also required but from what I saw of the Basle game I thought Wilson and Naylor looked excellent.
I think if Rangers fail to qualify for the CL this year they will be in dire straits.
If that's the case I think we should buy Sionko off them, just out of fairness. :)
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Having said that....
How does £1.5m over 300 years strike you?
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still overpriced
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should they not be paying us??
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Is this the famous Celtic Biscuit Tin mentality again!?
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CelticSephiroth - �1.5 million for Sionko over 300 years?!!!......are you serious?!!!.......he's not worth it mate!!!......;-)
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But we'll have to pay top dollar to get him!
Murray will not be held to ransom!!
:D
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Hacks predictions for the new season
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My dear friend Cao...@20.27
Lenno was a complete waste of a position....
He slowed down the game... period.
He was a constant burr under my saddle.
I was ecstatic when he eventually was released.
Patty Cake, Patty Cake Man!
I was at the game today.
I know that never in a million years, would Lenno have made the runs that we witnessed for at least Two of the Celtic Goals, today.
This Celtic Team is shaping up to be a brammer!
And you can quote me.
On second thoughts...forgetaboutit!
My reputation on this site is a somewhat truncated one....
Most of the contributers are under the mistaken impression that I know little or nothing about soccer!
They can believe what they want, but nevertheless, they will slowly begin to change their opinion, when they realise that I was 100 Per Cent right about their hero... Mr. Lennon..... whom, I have reviled to the past two years...
Also, I was right about the silly insipid and lazy performances, that were dished up by Mr. Petrov.... another drawbacker... if I ever saw one.
I am being proved correct about Petrov.... by the day...his star is fading at Aston.... he is a whiner and a sulker...period.
Pierre should be arrested for taking candy from a baby... the baby?...Why, Martin!.....
who may be a fine man manager, but his judgement concerning what constitutes excellence in soccer talent... is debatable!
Think I am wrong?
Join the club.
Watch how Martin's new Expensive recent signings pan out...
Then get back to me.. after next Season ends... and we shall talk again!
And,need I remind you,my faithfull critics.....
Hold the rhetoric about what Martin accomplished at Celtic... it is last week's Laundry, which I have not the slightest interest in bringing to mind!
Last weeks' reminiscences, and 5 dollars, will get you a cup of Java at your local Starbucks...
Nothing more.
Forget about the Past...I know it is a shock... But Martin's deeds at Celtic are all in the Past, and will never have any significance on Celtic's Future position in the League Table!
That is all she wrote.
Kojo.
Yer Pal, if ye are willin'
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Noel,
Your comment about Neil Lennon is spot on.
No disprespect to Neil, but my first thought on watching Skoosh slot away his goal was .....could Lenny have done that?
In fact, would Lenny ever have been that far up the pitch that quickly?
I know that it might sound like hype, but I am convinced that Skoosh will be worth double his transfer fee this time next year.
I can't believe some of the dross that was talked about him not being for us as he was 'Rangers minded'. (Kojo...Collie?).
Even if someone is Rangers minded, it doesn't make him a worse player.
He could really be the difference between us and THEM next season.
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From what I've read/heard Skoosh isn't a Rangers fan. Rather he was a member of a Rangers youth team as a boy. They messed him about and he sort of fell out with them after that.
I might be wrong though.
As hamptontim quite rightly stated, who cares?
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Hampton Tim...
I was I ....not collie... who claimed that Scott Brown would never opt to join Celtic.
As far as the use of the word "dross" regarding my comments... I hasten to point out that my comments, at the time that I made them were,on the contrary.. very sensible and germane to the facts ,at that time.
Scott Brown is a Rangers diehard... that is a fact.. I do not wish go into the matter,but it is so.
I never at anytime, denigrated the Soccer Talent of Scott.... he is a wonderful player.
But, Scott Brown at things have turned out... refuted my conclusion regarding his choice of club.
In that I was in error.
Howevvvvvvvah....
As Mr. Brown has made his choice, and is now a Celtic Player... I believe that what I have mentioned concerning his loyalties ....has now become a moot point...
It is time my friend, to move on, and stop digging up past imagined intimations ,that can be gleaned from my past writings by eager cavilers.
Capice?
Kojo
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Kojo - ah'm willin' so therefore ah'm yer pal.
As a long time reader but only recent poster it is a pleasure to have stirred such a response from CQN's famous Kojo!!
As you'll see from my post above, I don't (and have never) proclaimed to be a "lover" - ooh er matron - of Neil Lennon. I stand by my statement though, that in "general" terms, Neil will go down as a great player for Celtic. Whether you or I agree with that Kojo is a different matter.
I'm not one for living in the past.
Martin O'Neill gave us some great memories (as did Stan and wee Shaun) but they are all Celtic history. It's up to us all as individuals to choose whether we remember them all - fondly or not, and fully support those involved with Celtic here and now.
We can agree and disagree who's good and who's bad, but when it matters they should all receive our support.
I realise and know that it's very early days (don't you just hate that cliche?) but I do honestly believe Celtic could be a wee bitty special this season......
Do yeez think ah'm a "happy clapper"?.......those that know me know I'm not, but it's nice to feel positive about this coming season.......and for that, I'll happily clap!! ;-)
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Like others I'm trying not to go overboard on the basis of a few friendlies. But I will go as far as to say that we do seem to have the makings of a very good team in front of us. We still need full back cover, the one area I feel we are weak. And is there still a "Wow" signing to come?
August is a massive month for both us and that team on the south side. CL qualifiers and the beginning of the league season. The dream scenario would obviously be us qualifying and them not, and we build up a lead in the league. How soon would the press get on Wattie's back? How loyal would their fans be? Would Murray go into meltdown?
All will be revealed over the next few weeks.
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press getting on watties back??hell will freeze over before that happens...
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Havent seen much of todays highlights but on Skoosh,from the minute he made that hazy run in the Basel game from our box to theirs beating three or four players in the process , i thought to myself thankyou for coming to us and for not buying into all that moonbeam nonsense.
Yep ghuys i think we have player on our hands.
Now on to the little man with the big bank balance ,young shaun.Personably i wouldnt take him back but if he was to return, like most others on here he would get my backing.
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Rintimtim, it sure is the dawning of a new era.
Caoimhin Dubh, you know, Generation of Domination does not seem so wishful than it did a couple of years ago. Some of us knew back then, it took a while for others to learn, some have still not figured it out.
Weeron, if the other lot fail to reach the CL, their implosion will be swift and complete.
Parkheadcumsalford, we have not had the players to play faster fitter football yet; I know where you are coming from with the current crop.
Welcome CelticSephiroth, good to hear from you.
Kojo, how far back do we want to go? Have you heard about the Decade-Dance?
The great years were years of control, not speed. It was 1997 we signed Paul Lambert, a firm, but mono-paced player. In 2000 he was joined by Neil Lennon, a similarly mono-paced player, we were blessed, but cursed.
The shadows grew long, the pace; the pace dropped.
High time for a change.
On the subject of Shaun…
I posted in April (I think) when I first heard of his frustrations at being 13th, 14th, 15th man in Birmingham. As nothing has happened since, I suspect that his chances of a return are diminishing. He was sold for £1m with only 6 months on his contract, but even as a bench player he is worth much more than this to Villa.
I would have him back, but the cost is likely to be prohibitive.
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My dear Cao....
Da Boss and us,we all saw the day's confronto....Q.P.R. were no at the Races!
Check dat....
They were....but, we left them at the Startin' Gate!
Bet yer sweet Bootie..... Celtic are back!...an' they are sure swingin down da lane!
Mr. Donnetti?
Hmmmmmmm?
On today's performance, we must grab the son of Big Al!
He is a Player!
Scott Brown was ...well?... Scott Brown.
His performances are always... A mouth-watering treat, which only gets..
Bettah! and BETTAH!
He is Puree BUTTAH, my friend!
The most interesting fact to emerge from today's conflict,howevah.... was...
The welcome appearance of......
Gary Irvine!
A young man, who was mentioned in dispatches....on several occasions by the Three Cousins.. as a winner!
Maybe, we have solved the right back back-up ,after all!
Only Strachan knows...and he is no tellin'!
Yes, babe.....
Celtic are now on the right track....
And it leads to
EURO GLORY!
Who said that......?
Me...
Kojo.
Yer Pal ...for ever an' ever!
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For anyone wishing for Maloney to return, forget it.
Like Petrov he is struggling a bit and I think would welcome the chance of a regular game anywhere.
He isn't homesick, he has small fish in big pond syndrome.
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Wish I could see the whole game...can't judge Irvine's performance obviously, but my back up for the right back slot?..........it's Paul Caddis for me...
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kojo
euro glory??
will it be enough for the strachan out brigade??
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paul67
i wondered if u think there will be a "WOW" signing??
I gather the appiah deal is still on the table so i suspect possibly?
Or is it maybe a case of we are trying for "wow" players but if it doesn't happen then it doesn't happen....i.e. the appiah situation?
Also i agree with you re a swift implosin at rangers i know a dirty dozen of them who are all on the brink of chaos the slightest thing will tip them over, a couple of draws not making the CL.
Rangers fans it seems do not in the main comprehend the impact of our financial dominance and keep clinging to 2 old firm victories, walter being back and the fact the picked up more points than us since walter has been back
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Kojo and Noel,
I must agree totally with both of you in your comments regarding Neil Lennon.
Apart from my PET SUBJECT about certain players in a certain game, I am glad that Neil Lennon has left the club.
His style of play has long held us back.
His style fitted the Martin O'Neil style of football, but it never suited the Gordon Strachan style.
I think our manager courted and then tolerated Neil Lennon because he had to have a link between the MON era and his own team.
A lot of people think that the abuse Neil Lennon took over his time at Celtic should have guaranteed him an everlasting place in our team, but his ability to do his job should be the only yardstick used to ensure a place in the team.
I, for one, am glad he has left the club.
We will be a quicker, smoother running and much more attacking side this year.
I look forward to this new season with relish.
Cheers,
Martin.
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I read that Adu is endorsed by Nike.
Carrot anyone? :)
Not the position that needs strengthening but it'd make me look good because I always sign him in managements games.
On Neil Lennon. A great player who I think hung around too long. His inclusion in the central midfield caused us alot of problems. I think Strachan wants two players in central mid who will play box to box. The sight of Neil Lennon high up the park, struggling to get back, was all too evident in the closing stages of last season. Still, that doesn't diminish his contribution to many successes over the years.
For the now, it's looking good in the middle of the park.
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Martin,
Neil Lennon was a wonderful servant.
In my eyes ,he deserves far more gratitude than you are giving him.
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TinyTim-
As you say, a wonderful servant to the club. He deserves to go down as a Celtic great.
But let's face facts, last season made it all too evident that his time here was up.
I think though we should put that in context to the several great seasons he had before the one (arguably two) poor ones.
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Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but when Scott Brown was subbed he was given a standing ovation and looked genuinely stunned by it.
Btw, problems at the end of the game developed into far more than just young kids running on to the park.
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In fact...enough of this patter.
Did anyone notice Rangers lost 5-1 to Celtic today?
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1 nil to Brazil after 4 min's Julio Baptiste.
I away tae watch it ,so nae mare comments fae me t'night.
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Tinytim,
Spot on TT,Neil WAS a wonderful servant, but his better days were long gone, never mind his Best days.
As I said he was at his best playing in a Martin O'Neil team where he and the likes of Diddier Agathe were not encouraged to cross the half way line.
His stlye of play DID NOT fit in with the Gordon Strachan style pf play.
I take nothing away from Neil's contribution to our club, but he overstayed his usefulness.
Cheers,
Martin
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Ah, the Copa America Final.
I'm going to join TinyTim in taking the step down in quality. Listening to two inept commentators talk about Celtic v QPR to watching live pitures of Brazil v Argentina. What a step down in quality.
Yep, and Sionko is the WOW signing.
How about a fiver and an empire biscuit with a fudge donut being added next season (Barry has to eat)
Nighty night :)
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Sir Paul...
Now that I am the fortunate recipient of your not inattention....
Sit back an relax,pal....this may take a while( Should that not be... "awhile"?....ed)(na....while, "awhile" could be used, it does represent... a wee bit longer than "a while!")
Could you explain to me...if you can!.....
What is the purpose of a Mid-fielder ....either...
In the capacity of... a "holding" or "box to box" speciman?
And while( "while"?....ed)( Cut that out! Let's not go thro' that again!) you are at it, Paul...
Whatever happened to the Inside Right and Inside Left positions?... in the composition of the" Forward"!!!!!Line.?
The Soccer Team Formation... of Five attacking Forwards, was de rigueur, for One Hundred Years..and then... Puff!
All this techo Mumbelty Jumble... broke out....
And bingo....
Now, we no longer have HALF- BACKS.
or Inside Forwards...or True Wingemen!
By the way...
Whatevah happened to the good old HOLDING HALFBACK?
Where did they go?
Bertie Peacock, Pat McAuley,Joe Baillie..Boabie Evens....etc... where wid they fit in...now??
(N.B. the above names have been given to me from a reliable outside source)
If you can explain, to this dumb yank.... at least a few of the whys and wherefores,that hastened the reconstitution of the team positions, I would be forever in your debt!
Me?
I think that the old yins were on to something...
One Goalie, Two Full-Backs... One Center Back, Two Half- Backs....
Two Wingers, Two Inside Forwards and ONE CENTER FORWARD!!
What's not to like?
Why did we allow the soccer technocrats to Dis-Improve, in
PERFECTION!!!!!!!
( In which, EVERYBODY KNOWS..... can never be IMPROVED!...ed)( Ya got that,right.....bud!)
Kojo
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Kojo,
Talking about right halfs and left halfs, I watched some of the BEST in action.
Apart from the ones you mentioned, one of the best right halfs we ever had was Bobby Murdoch.
Outwith Celtic players, other great half backs that spring to mind were Dave McKay, John White and Danny Blanchflower.
Alf Ramsey was the man who first changed the formation of a football team.
He pioneered the present setups and won the World Cup using these formations.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Hi, not posted for sometime.
Not a happy-clapper but for sure a glass half full man. However pre season friendlies nor transfer window "stars" encourage me to extrapolate (oh er missus!) successful careers or successful seasons.
I am encouraged by the signings and by some individual performances last year but as always we'll only know when the real stuff starts.
Many's the player I've seen who can strut their stuff when the opposition allows but when really put to the test can't hack it mentally. Probably more important is bringing everyone together to form a team - making the whole greater than the sum of the parts. For those old enough that's what Big Billy did in 1988. The Rangers squad was more glamorous with more individually talented players but just look what happened.
I am still enthused by what MIGHT happen but I'd suggest some on the blog might want to 'cool their jets' at least for a while.
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My dear,dear friend, Martin
Now you, pal.... did see the old formation ...before it was diluted to an unspecified... diaphonous concoction, that it now represented by these mysterious numbahs....
4-4-2,4-3-3,2-3-2-3..... etc.
Which is Pure Bunkum.... I say, I say!
So let's hear what you, my dear friend has to say on the new Fancy Schwancy.... Soccer Technology!
vis a vis the Guid old Fashioned....
FLOW OF FIVE ATTACKING SKILLFUL FORWARDS IN FULL FLIGHT....
A LA " THE FABULOUS FIVE"..... of Hibernians LORE!
Kojo
Yer pal... and admirer. in your expertise, of all things Celtic
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Brazil are painful to watch, and it's not often they can be accused of that. They are snuffing out what had the potential to be an absolute cracker of a match.
The spirit of 1970 it is not.
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Kojo,
A bygone age.
I was lucky to see some of the past great players from many teams.
The famous five from Hibs were a joy to watch, but were not the only stars in Edinburgh.
Hearts had Willie Bauld and Jimmy Wardhaugh along with Dave McKay.
Our south side rivals had the likes of Ian McMillan and Ian McColl real footballers.
There was nothing to beat the sight of five forwards bearing down on a defence.
As I said, A Bygone Age, but a much missed age.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Antsmanm a, “Wow!” signing is not being specifically sought. I predict a bitter Autumn for your Rangers supporting friends.
Kojo, do you know something? We in Scotland were the last to change to these new formations. I think this came from having been successful in the past, in particular, our team managers in the 1980s, who were successful players in the 1960s and 70s.
I watched the same formation line up week after week, year after year all through the 80s. Get thumped in Europe? Never mind, try harder next season.
Run all over Aberdeen but lose 0-1? They must have gotten lucky – again. ‘It will not happen the next time’ (two clubs from the North East learned quicker than the rest of us).
In answer to your question, “where did they go”, they went the way of the dodo. Their teams lost to opponents with less footballing talent but who outfoxed them.
The survival of the fittest meant that revision eventually reached the northern parts of this island.
The Hungarians threw the old rule book out back in the 50s. They made such an impact, not because they had 11 galloping officers in their team, they only had one, but because they played to a different tune than the rest of the world.
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Brazil 2 - 0 up on Argentina at half time. I can see a few more goals comming and Argentina getting back in the game...
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My dear friend, Awalk...@22.0
Poisonally, I do not think that we have an Anti- Strachan Brigade..per se( Whit? "per se?"....ed)( Ah know! ah know!... ah dunno why I put that in... but everybody else does....so why no?)
I do believe, howevah..that we have an" Anti-Celtic Non Minded".... PLATOON....( Platoon?...ed)( We just dinna have enough, that would qualify fur a Brigade....thank God!)
No matter who aspires to become a a Celtic Manager, there is still a vetting committee to face, and who insists that a Celtic Manager must always have one or more of the following qualifications..
Irish or Irish antecedents.
Non Protestant.....( Whit??....ed)( That, my friend,is a WHOLELLLLLLLLOTTA Different than being a ROMAN CATHOLIC!)
Have I made my point?
Ya Betcha!
Kojo.
Yer pal...till the Global Warming, eliminates...... HELL!
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The Celtic manager was coy on suggestions that the club have entered into negotiations to bring back Shaun Maloney from Aston Villa. The Scotland internationalist is unsettled in Birmingham but after an acrimonious £1m departure, it remains to be seen if enough water has passed under the bridge to make a move possible for an appropriate fee.
"I don't want to talk about players at other clubs, that would be unfair," said the manager
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Ossie Ardiles sounds like that bloke off the Fast Show. He's speaking perfect english, but the accent makes it sound like gobbledegook.
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Sir Paul
Thanks for your explanation...it is a clear one ... and it has enabled me to understand some of the whys, but not all of the wherefores, of the present situation concerning team formation.
Howevvahhhhh!..... ye didna no unexpect the expected, didya ?( Run dat by me again, pal.....ed)(Beat it kid, ya bore me!)
Knowing my Modus Operandi.... your surmise was correct....
I do know something...well, I don't REALLY know something...well, Mebbe ah do, do.....after all!
Time will tell!
Let's leave it at that.
Kojo.
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paul you are right abt formations.I saw too many moral victories in the 80s when fergie and wee jum got smart against us.
sure its nice to win playing sexy football as ruud guillit called it but it doesnt always happen and at times the sleeves need to get rolled up and the trench warfare needs to come in to play.
I saw the 4-2-2-2 barnes formation which was clueless from the outset and any boss with any savvy would put 2 men wide and stretch that big time hence our undoing time after time and the ramifications that happened during that time.
I feel that currently we are on the right lines with a bit of speed of thought being brought into things as well as speed of movement.
as other contributors have stated it was pedestrian last season and while I thank lenny for his service I agree that we have to move on as things got slower last year.
we seem to be well equiped in midfield at the moment and I really wonder where messers gravesen,jarosik and above all hartley exactly fit into the good ship celtic 2007/08?
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kojo ur right re the anti strachan brigade.sentiments spot on.its what we need a fresh pair of eyes with a clear train of thought of what he needs to do the job.
and to hell with the consequences...
I want the best for my club and dont care whether he is a supposed "celik" man or not.I only want a successful manager and so far so good to these eyes
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Martin/TT
On Neil lennon. I think seeing young Mr Brown gallop up and down the park slotting in goals (and more to come I hope)a few guys are getting a bit hard on NL.
Yeah, maybe last season his legs were starting to go, a bit. But, he was always worth his place in the team for so many psychological, football related reasons,
I would have hated to play against NL. I think the games against AC showed his true worth. He was unnecessary against lesser teams, hence his sub v Dunfermline in the cup final. Milan were quality and NL could see danger before it happened (product of his upbringing?).
I think Scott Brown will be a sensation, but no comparisons please. Different players, 13 years in age apart and offering different, but equally valuable things to the team.
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John Thompson
Danny McGrain, Bobby Evans, Jock Stein, Tommy Gemmell
Scott Brown, Bertie Auld, Paul Lambert, Mudro MacLeod, Willie Wallace and Kenny Dalglish.
All had one thing in common when they arrived at Celtic. However no one born a Celtic fan has as big a grin on his face as wee Bertie when he utters the word "Celtic".
It's quite a compliment that joining Celtic is a life changing experience.
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taggsybhoy
Well put. Let Neil Lennon's Celtic career lie in the history of the club, untainted by retrospective criticism of his naturally diminishing physical powers.
It happens to all sportsmen eventually and goes to prove how wise Larsson was to leave Celtic when he did, because he, too, would have become the victim of the axemen in the stands.
On balance, even allowing for his decreasing pace, Neil brought other attributes to the transitional team, which we hope will bear fruit next season. Mainly, his experience and reading of the game.
Alf Ramsey's England team are credited (?) with the demise of wingers in the British game.
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At 15/07/07 23:40, ~Kevtic,
Do you mean that, like Bertie, they all supported Partick Thistle?
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My dear dear friend, Martin...
You saw the Famous Five..... and as you mention,as I was also told, that, Hearts did have quality players in Bauld, Wardhaugh,Tommy Walker, Sloan... Walker being a veritable Diamond!
There again, like Stan Matthews, ...he was an out and out Winger, as was Jimmy Delaney....and so on.
As they DO NOT SAY....
Four Million Scotsmen could not be wrong.......
I say Bring back those Golden Years in Retro......
How about a ......
One..... Two.... Three..... Five.
Formation.
An why not??....
Has anybody, had the Constitutional
Thingymajig, to dare to re-introduce the old formation?
I soitenly do not know... but I would sure like to see it tried...
At Least Once!
Who knows...maybe Mr. Ramsey... had simply the best eleven...the same could be said for the Hungarians??....
For after all... Has England played any Bettah, since the introduction of the Follies?
Has the HUNGARIANS managed to Reprise their former glory?
Hmmmmmmmm!
No, something does not follow...that is.. according to the Present Interpretation of Hoyle!
...."Their present performances are as unexciting to watch, as paint drying!"
Is the above quote,a cogent description of the level of soccer entertainment, as is served up by the the present Celtic Team
Formations?
I say....By Hades, Aye!
Things down at the Farm are just not the same....
I pine for the return of the good old Hay- Rides.......
Now, Mr. Strachan.... is abuilding and abuilding .......something....
Who knows?.....
Kojo.
yer pal... in Celtic.
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On Neil Lennon,
Taking aside the footballing merits of his replacements.
Who will replace the mental strength, drive, non acceptance of lost points, cajoling of passengers when games become bogged down.
Neil wore his heart on his sleeve when it came to Celtic having to win. Sometimes he overstepped the mark and that was used by his detractors and the media as a flaw in his make up.
I'm pretty sure Skoosh will be of the same mentality eventually. I hope he follows a similar path to Jock Stein where his probable/predictable treatment from family and friends now that he has made his choice, will lead him to find extra purpose and desire to succeed.
I wonder who, from the current squad will emerge as the leader or leaders on the park.
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monteblanco re on field leaders in the current squad...u named the mainman.think many others are quite content to stay in background.mr.brown aint.a good shout for vice captain at least assuming that mick gets the armband
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monteblanco
last season often neil lennons cajoling was anger/frustration because he was the main passenger
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antsman
I accept that the legs were going from lenny but bigger passengers than him last year
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eg hartley,gravesen,jarosik etc
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awalk..
I really hope Big Mick steps up to the plate in terms of his leadership ability. He will be captain and this season may be defining for him.
Antsman,
I'm not talking on a playing/skills level, we will agree to differ on that.
Who do you think will emerge as the driving forces, big personality players?
Anyway I am getting the evil eye here, time to go.
short'n'sweet.CSC
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As I have said before on this blog Neil is above critisism due firstly because of his ability then also he must be 1 of the only players ever to take pay cuts to play for us and then the amount of abuse he has taken both off and on the field even from our own fans .
Against Milan this season he was our best player by a mile in both games.
Lets not get carried away in pre season games the same way some did last year.
PS I only found out today that Craig Beattie had left all the best and I hope you do well
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I saw some great play at Loftus Rd today. Scott Brown was immense and galvanised the team. He is already what the Promising Petrov never consistently achieved and he will be a legend in the Hoops.
Good flowing football, composure and flair in most areas for most of the match and, at last, driving forward from midfield - it is looking good. Not convinced re Capone despite the goal, Miller would be asset for most team but will never make it with the Hoops and Kennedy is beginning to look as assured as before that killer tackle in the international match.
Can't see any point in retaining Balde, Miller, Jurawski, Jarosic, Hartley or Graveson but I'd have Maloney back cheap.
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pvsdb
re maloney only on our terms
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awalk....what are our terms?
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ps.whoever posted carly simon on here the other day... take a bow.have her on my media player.wld post link but not a scooby as to how.
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greenlion if reputed 16k at villa offer him 12k.if hes that homesick provided the fee can be agreed we will see what he does.mind u peter martin(mcguire) broke this story on clyde thurs but said that keano wanted him at sunderland
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At 15/07/07 20:57, Kojo said…
Can't really disagree with much of what you posted.
The King is Dead Long live the KING
..... BUT
'Soccer'
I think you'll find it's football Sir :-)
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awalk.... we offered him more than £16k a week to stay it was widely reported. It was not our final offer but the length of time to put that offer over. Maybe Maloney has principles on terms that we cant have!!!!
We have tried the same tactics with a few other players I believe 2 big failures in Shaun and Jackie
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Just before I turn in for the night,regarding Bobo,Jiri,Tommy,Kenny etc these guy's are all under contract.So unless we pay off the remainder of their contracts they will be with us. Though if they decide that sitting on the bench isn't for them they could decide to walk away..... AYE RIGHT!!!
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Greenlion2
Is that the same Jackie who got the testimonial from us?
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greenlion u maybe right.but the grass aint always greener on the other side.not many have bettered themselves since they left for greener pastures.
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Mick yes the same 1 he got the testimiomal from us not the board...
Awalk I totally agree apart from the 2 Kings not many have but fitba is changing big time
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Mick the same way that Henrik got a testimonial for his £2m but done only 7 years
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awalkacross
It was masel that posted the Carly Simon link but it was during a spat with Collie that was unsought on my part.
The link thing is fairly well explained on the CQN home page under Common Questions where Stevie 21 has a Link Creator. I didn't know how to do it until I read this and, if you experiment with previewing your posts, it will take anyone only a few minutes to master.
As always with technology for the aul hauns like maself it's more to do with the courage to try it and not minding making a fool of yourself.
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greenlion indeed it is.but weve survived the loss of the 2 kings and sm or sp aint nowhere near that class
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awalkacross....What CS track made it on to CQN and what was the context??
Mick...I thought it was fitba'
Thanks for the cockney updates earlier....
Sounds promising....Does it not?
NL: Great Celt. But his time had come and gone...I thought he was increasingly a liability on the field over the last two seasons. His contribution was crucial off the field, assisting GS in an extremely difficult transition period.
Shaun? Shaun who? Oh that guy who thought he had learnt everything there is to learn...As you can tell that left a bad taste in my mouth.
Never go back. Never ever ever........
Roll on the Future....
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pj
your so vain
draw yer own conclusions
why?
its coming around again
etc
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sftb cheers
hit the spot
really need to get tinseltown uploaded..
hence the monicker
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awalkacrosstherooftops said...
greenlion indeed it is.but weve survived the loss of the 2 kings and sm or sp aint nowhere near that class
I agree but apart from about 4 or 5 other players in my lifetime there are not many in their class.
Night night from ghods town.
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As a genuine happy clapper, I would still be backing the "cool your jets" view re pre-season form. After 4 games, no consistent pattern is there yet. 3 wins and a heavy defeat foretell nothing with any degree of confidence.
I have no objection to anyone crowing about our performances; I will be doing that myself to every Rangers fan I meet. But, amongst ourselves, let's have a wee bit patience to see how the team emerges from the squad training that's going on just now.
Our fans in the USA deserve, at least, one good performance from the team during the tour. They'll be playing players who are battle hardened in their own season, so the task will be harder than anything we've faced so far.
But, above all, we've got 2 more weeks to settle down to an 18-20 man squad to start the first dozen meaningful games, and those who fail to make that 18 to 20, such as the likes of Jim O'Brien, will be tested to commit themselves during reserve games to show that they are too good for that level and force a breakthrough.
Looking forward to it already.
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greenlion very true.
adios amigo
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sftb in total agreement re usa displays.aint exactly covered ourselves in glory in any shape or form.a marketing oppurtunity v mls perhaps with a good show?
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awalkacross
We'll see soon enough. I'll be watching Setanta/ Ch.67 with the rest of you.
I hope we manage to do it but I feel it will be an achievement if we do. Unlikely to be a big win for us anyway.
Off to my bed now- night everybody.
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sftb tc
adios
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Thanks for the updates on the game today - I wasn't able to tune in but always enjoy reading back through the comments. Watched the highlights (thanks Noel) and we scored dome good goals today. Naylor will be disappointed at the goal we lost.
Looking forward to the US trip. I think both games are live on ESPN here. I am hoping to drive down and see the Chicago game next Sunday. It will be the first time I have seen the bhoys live for a couple of years. Already feeling very good about the new season (don't we always at pre-season?)
The US games will be a big challenge. Both US teams will be up for the games and both will be a lot fitter than we are right now. To win both would be outstanding.
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Yes, thanks for the video link Noel.
And a scintillating good morning mncelt and all.
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Thanks Chennai - it may be morning where you are but it is bed time here.
Good night and may your GOD go with you :)
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MNCELT - FYI - The All Star game is on ESPN2 on Thursday, the Fire game is live on Fox Soccer Channel at the weekend.
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MNCelt, 4:08 Already feeling very good about the new season (don't we always at pre-season?)
You weren't here with the Mineshafters last year, were you? ;-)
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On this day in 1945,near Alamogordo,New Mexico the first atomic bomb was successfully tested.On witnessing the result the scientist leading the project,Dr Robert Oppenheimer,quoted from the Hindu scripture'Now,I am become Death,the destroyer of worlds.'
And as for'Wow'signings-we've had our fingers burnt with so many of those lately,so I set the bar on success at a boringly sensible level.If a new signing,regardless of the brouhaha that greets his arrival does as much for the club as Johan Mjallby did then he'll do for me.
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Kojo I am surprised at you. You know that if organisations do not change to meet new challenges they die. As a very brief potted history of why this change came about this is my recollection of it. Although I was aware it was going on the 54 world cup is a distant memory but I clearly remember the one in 58, Didi, Vava, Garrincha and of course Pele.
Alf Ramsey was an innovator but not as pivotal as suggested. The first nail in the coffin of the traditional British MW formation came from the Hungarian team of the early fifties. They had a wonderful centre forward Hidegkuti who played a deep lying role (The middle point of the W). At the same time the two inside forwards, Koscis and Puskas (the two bottom Points of the W) played as strikers. England regarded themselves as the best in the world having wingers like Matthews and Finney and a dominating centre half like Billy Wright so they were probably the best of the old order to be fair. Anyway when they met the mighty Magyars Wright was lost as Hidegkuti was thirty yards upfield from the postion where centre forwards were supposed to be and he was uncertain as to following him, when he tried his lack of pace was exposed, or staying put when Hidegkuti went past him at ease. Meanwhile the English wing halves could not cope with the positioning and fluid movement of the Hungarian inside forwards Puskas and Koscis, who were in fact their main strikeforce. After two mighty beatings 6-3 at Wembley and 7-1 in Hungary in 1953 the writing was on the wall for the traditional formation. The end came in the World Cup of 1958 where a wonderful Brazillian team played a fluid 4-2-4 formation that was eventually copied by virtually all teams, including those fielded by Jock Stein in his early years. Further innovation followed of course and modern formations are varied but are all founded on technique, intelligence and athleticism. In other words the old system had to die, as did its predecessor when Herbert Chapman’ Arsenal redefined the role of the centre half. The MW, regarded as traditional, actually only held sway for a relatively short period of around 30 odd years.
As you well know Kojo nostalgia is an expensive practice which is why it sells so well.
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Andycol
Terrific post there. Anyone who skipped it, go back and read for the good of your football education.
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Andycolo,
How do you arrive at the assessment that England were "the best of the old order" around 1953. What happened to them in the 1950 World Cup? And Scotland drew 2-2 with them at Wembley in 1953, having beaten them in the previous Wembley international.
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Greenlion2, are you implying that Larsson didnt merit a testimonial or that MacNamara was more worthy of one? Perhaps I've missed the point, but anyway...
As someone in their early-mid 20s, Larsson is by far and away the best player I have ever seen at Celtic Park. He played out of his skin for 6-and-a-half years (out-with injury) and made his intention to quit clear from the off.
MacNamara had 2.5 good seasons after signing, then one good season just before leaving. He was invisible for most of his ten years here. We all queued up and paid for his testimonial then he pee'd off down south the next day, or so it seemed. I hope he does well at Aberdeen, though, as I did think he was a good player, just that he wasnt that hungry to be a Celtic legend.
Testimonials are an outdated concept in today's game, but I'd pay all the money all over again just to watch Henke, and if ever he is in need of an organ-donor, I'll be down the Western Infirmary quick-smart to see if I'm a match.
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Maloney
I said at least twelve months before he left that he wouldn't hack it in the Premiership and remember being criticised for comparing him unfavourably with Shaun Wright-Phillips who is quicker, stronger and more skilful, and he is unable to hold a starting place in a top side.
I cannot understand why anyone would want a player like Maloney who isn't even Scottish International class. Spending money on such players only hands the league to Rangers on a platter.
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Well said Fighting the Fuzz.
McNamarra may get a warm welcome when he returns to Celtic Park, but it won't be from me.
Any player who takes £1m from us and then bad mouths the club in the Daily Record as he heads out the door looking for more money doesn't even deserve to be remembered as an average Celtic player.
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Andycol
An excellent walk back in time. We must be of the same wonderful birth era (oh the joy of leaping across the air raid shelters,etc) and therefore you have attained wisdom and ergo your synopsis is correct.
Only by moving fwd do you leave the past behind and mankind has always moved fwd.
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England thought they were the best because they had given the game to the World and Johnny Foreigner could teach them nothing-hence their reluctance to take part in any of the early World Cups.They got a rude awakening in 1950,and Hell was well and truly slapped into them when they played the Hungarians.
Despite the efforts of teams like Wolves and ManUtd the FA remained very suspicious of involvement in any European club competitions for much of the 50s.
Alf Ramsay,at Ipswich and then at England,got great success through the simple practice of playing round pegs in round holes.England were'wingless wonders'because he didn't have Matthews or Finney to select,so he chose the tactics that would best suit the players he did have.
Whatever happened to 4-2-2-2?
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Fighting the Fuzz since 1888
Traditionally, only players who have served a club for ten consecutive years are given the �honour� of a Testimonial.
I can think of no player, who survived his career, receiving such an honour, from any club, other than Henrick Larsson.
Jackie McNamarra was better than average. Way better, and since I don�t know all the facts as to his leaving I�d personally let it go. He stayed ten years and gave his all every chance he got. I always liked him. He earned his testimonial, to my mind anyway.
Little bit of trivia.
QPR started out as St. Judes.
Way back when,1892, they changed their strip to Green and White hoops.
Google is a good mate to the bored.
Some might argue they should�ve stuck with the colours
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Trotternish,
I did say probably but even then I was thinking of all their results post war. They got caught in 1950 but it is fair to say that maybe the signs were there of the changing times. As for Scotland they had two draws and one win out of ten games in the fifties. One swallow etc.
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Great time had here in the Smoke. Young Mr Brown fairly knows how to take a game by the neckscruff. Doubled with an Arsenal win on Saturday, life is good.
WC1Gemmell
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Kitalba-the ECL qualifiers start tomorrow night,so we'll all be ho[o]ping these guys make it:
http://www.saints-alive.co.uk/
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WinsomeGruesome-good to hear the gout has cleared up.I was worried you may not be able to play for the MLs select against the Bhoys next wek.
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Celticlover
Ah yes the "Jumps".
Some back courts had mighty reps as serious tests of nerve. I can remember travelling some distances to test out a backcourt we heard had big jumps. There were also the women who would lean out of their back windows and shout at you to get lost before they called the police. In an era where few people had phones far less mobiles I was never sure how they would do this but the said police would arrive from time to time. We could usually outrun them though across the washhouse roofs and if you were nervous of doing some jumps before fear lent wings.
DBBA arrogance was not an English preserve as the Scots had it as well. The 7-0 thumping by Uruguay in the 54 WC came as a real shock despite the fact they had won the WC tice previously.
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DBBIA
I wish them well. Good looking bunch too.
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Paul McPherson - congrats on winning the golf on Friday btw. Can you keep us posted on how you get on with the new square headed driver. I'm thinking of getting one off 14clubs.com so that i can hit further than 40 feet off the tee.
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DBBIA
Just noticed on that link
Adults $8,Concessions $3, Acocompanied Children Free.
Those were the days.
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Let's not be revisionist here, for his one full season as a Celtic player Shaun Maloney looked every inch a player who would help us dominate Scottish football. We didn't play in Europe that season but his two performances against Manchester United and Benfica suggested promise.
To suggest otherwise belittles us, not him. He is no more a flop in the English Premiership after 5 games than Henrik Larsson was with us in the same time frame.
I hope he's a rip-roaring success wherever he goes. Otherwise, doesn't it reflect badly on us?
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dontbratt -
I'm needing to go into detox after the last few days. I can hardly bear the thought of the train ride back to ML1.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the antics of the Chelsea 'supporters' following the match yesterday. Our fans are a credit to Celtic but they are being deliberately provoked when in London. Our enemies are desperate to have us sully our good name.
WG
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TMC-Well said!
I think we have missed Shaunaldinho and his partnership with SN could have been a powerful part of our forward play.
Like you I don't like to see ex-Celts struggle when they go to pastures new-apart from the Merdemeister.
WG-What antics?
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dontbratt -
they were trying to bait Celtic fans into fights and consequently got a few pubs closed in Shepherds Bush - the British Queen, O'Neill's etc.
Anyway must dash, train to catch.
WishyboundGhuy
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Wasn't it the case that the Larsson game wasn't a testimonial (in the truest sense of the word), but was a part of the contract that he and Celtic signed to keep him at Parkhead?
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Paul67.
I tried to send the photo's of the golf,I see you got adobe but no pics,I think I'll wait until your next visit to Celtic Park and we'll make arrangements for giving you the card from the camera.
I've not been able to post since I sent what I thought were the pictures.
I think I disrupted the exchange with the trouble trying to send the pictures.
Taggs.
I have'nt got round to viewing your bunker shot...s.
But theres no way I'm going to erase that,thats for posterity,theres no big deal about taking a couple of shots to get out of a bunker,remember the pro at the open who took "I think" nine shots to get out of the bunker at the road hole at St Andrews,thats what I do when I've trouble in a bunker, I think of him.
If you want an embarrassing golf story, "I'm going to tell you it anyway".
It happened at Gleneagles on the first tee,We were on an outing,a group of twelve, all my so called friends and they were all good golfers,scratch up to five handicappers,myself, the worst player, playing of nineteen.unbeknown to me they had fixed it for me to go in the first group.
I had never played at such an illustrious golf course before, and my nerves were getting the better of me,I thought that they had fixed the draw, for me to go in the first group just to get me settled, as they knew I was a bag of nerves,but no,there was worse to come.
On the tee ....... I placed the ball.
My mate called me over and I thought he was trying to gee me up,but there was someone changing my ball as I had my back turned,I addressed the ball and hit a sweet shot but the ball exploded into a cloud of chalk,I was livid with rage and nearly departed the scene never to set foot on a golf course again.
I put down another ball and hit a cracker of a drive down the middle of the fairway,running to get away from my so called friends.
Theres nothing worse than the joke getting played on you,I would have laughed along with the next one If it had'nt been me.
we still talk about it to this day,In fact my mate came to see me just after I got home from Aberdour and it was mentioned then.
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oldtim67
The suprising thing about your golf story is that you were able to hit the 2cnd shot cleanly off the T, that must have been a tough shot with all the sniggering going on.
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Does anybody know if Capone got on the plane to America ?
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itz.
your right about that, but my game went downhill from there on.
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capone didn't get on plane to america but is going to join up with the squad once his visa is sorted.
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interesting to see the shaun stuff come out.
He did ask I believe.
Having been at Aberdour last year I too was taken aback by their hospitality.
As much as I tried to damm the place for being a golfy type thing another member would come past me smile and say hello.
Good People.
Bryan reporting just back from a wee village north of Barca where his neice wore an arygentina strip with Messi on the back.
Popular were we.
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Seven
How long are they going to be in America? I wouldn't have thought he would need one if he's going to be there less than a fortnight? Unless of course they count playing a couple of friendly games of soccer as "work" these days.
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Mike@11.52.I think yuu're right about this.
The question of whether it was'right'to give HL a testimonial was academic as the game was part of his contract to keep him at the club.
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Malone_86,
As an EU passport holder he could stay 90 days on a visitor's visa. But I presume that soccer does count as work in the US so he will need to apply for a visa, and can't do that without his passport.
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Nakamura for Japan today.
ASSIST
GOAL
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im not sure lads how it works but thats wot i heard on the radio.
might be a lot of rubbish though.
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Gordon_J
For Capone to have travelled from Italy to Scotland and England, he must already have his passport on his person.
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Celtic_First,
Technically you do not need a passport to travel between EU countries as an EU citizen - freedom of movement was part of the Maastricht Treaty.
Of course you need to prove you are an EU citizen, which an Italian can do with an identity card.
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i thought we played some awesome stuff yesterday... real high tempo, great movement all round.
SB what a player!
i thought JK was also flawless @ CB
I'd LOVE to see him & Mick paired together for the foreseeable
wasn't overly impressed by AC... he certainly doesn't track back... left MW with no out ball on at least 3 occasions.
On the whole things are really shaping up!
:o)
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Big Liam
don't know if you saw the whole game v Vietnam in Hanoi but Naka was outstanding and MOTM by a country mile and then some.
He performed a wonderful Master class in a central midfield role with one assist( turned the full back inside out twice) and a superb start and finish move.
He left the field after 60 mins when Japan were 4-1 ahead to a standing ovation from everybody( including the very partisan Vietnamese in the 60,000 crowd and rave reviews from the commentators who "knew nutting" but never mind . What a wonderful wee man he is and a very modest one at that. Can't wait to see him play with Broon, Aidan and Donatti. Any fod watching this performance would have been behind the sofa after the first 10 mins.
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Cheers for those Big Liam.
Nice to see Nakamura has a right peg as well.......
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The police have raided 3 clubs in England in connection with the enquiry into the dodgy transfers.
One of them is Newcastle,apparently.
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First time I have ever seen footage of this game-
Celtic 5 Rangers 1
including the assist by Tiny Wharton.
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Vargas Shampoo
Like you I'd also be very interested to hear some comments from Paul McPherson re the square headed driver from Club 14 plus any other of their clubs as I was thinking of buying a set and getting them sent over here to Singapore.If you hear anything please let me know.
Cheers Timoot.
ps. Did you see Naka v Vietnam today??? To all those at Mordor, be afraid, very, very afraid.
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Noel-excellent,although it appeared to have been filmed on a very foggy day/unseasonable sandstorm with the contents of a supervalue jar of vaseline smeared over the lens.
Tiny's dummy is reminiscent of another goal scored in another 5-1 drubbing!
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Kitalba,
I wasnt really trying to dig up any muck re MacNamara. I thought he was quite a good player, excellent on his day. I think he lacked hunger, and the fact that he never fulfilled his potential infuriated me. However, it's also my understanding that he had some difficult personal circumstances to deal with.
If the club offered him a unfair weekly wage, in relation to players like Balde, then it was his right to leave. After 10 years at one club I guess we cant blame him. However, why take the testimonial and then leave so sharply? And, worse still, why go running to the Record, telling everyone how unfair Celtic are, after they paid his wages and put up with his invisible man antics for the middle 5 years of his time there?
Good player. No hunger or grace. I hope he does a job for Aberdeen, but for those 4 times a season.
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Noel @14.43 :- And yet you claim refs are biased against you??????????????
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Ted-
and there has been a payback ever since...........
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anybody got a webcam on murray park
Run Martin.
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Capone does not need a visa to enter to the US and play. He is an Italian citizen and can therefore enter the USA via the Visa Waiver Program. However, he will have to have either one of the new passports with a chip in it...or a machine readable passport (and there are two different types of those). If his passport does not meet either of these reqiurements, he will need a new one.
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Johnny,
But presumably if he is playing- ie "working"- he will need an I Visa?
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radio 5 reporting similar action in glasgow to that which has taken place in newcastle.
I wonder where? Hmmmmmmmmmmm
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The new type of passport sounds like a good shout to me, and it's obviously better to be safe than sorry.
The last thing we want is the young man travelling all the way to the PNW and then getting grief from the US Immigration authorities - especially with a name like Capone.
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ItaliaBhoy - Nope. He is not employed in the US, wont be getting paid in the US and is not intending to remain there. He is there on business for a week, that is all. That is covered by te VWP.
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Fighting The Fuzz since 1888 - I share your feelings on McNamara. I thought he was a decent versatile player who served us well. Infact there was one season in particular under Tommy Burns where he & Simon Donnelly's understanding on the right hand side was a big factor in our attacking play. Latterly i think he wasn't cut out for the European stage as we seen away to Bayern Munich & at home in the 3-1 defeat to Barcelona where Ludovic Guily gave him a night to forget.
Like you I'm not too keen on trying to blacken the name of McNamara or any Celtic Player, but i do think that his Irish surname made him bullet proof to objective criticism. This kind of outlook is what really riles me about the scrutiny Gordon Strachan gets from many of his own support. If his name originated from the land beyond the sea or he'd previously worn the hoops, none of this nonsense would rear it's head.
For me the Knife in the heart was the way Jackie Mac & his agent (Darren Jackson)conducted business so cheaply through The Daily Record. Darren Jackson is another ex-celt with a short memory. When he was diagnosed with a serious brain illness, he received the best of care & support from the club & it's fans. For him some years later to publicly cheapen the club won't be forgotten as far as i'm concerned. McNamara had an opportunity after a bumper testimonial to bow out gracefully, but instead he took a course of action that was unforgiveable. I have more affection for his replacement - Paul Telfer. He arrived for £150,000 & was not fancied at all. He was a model professional, was part of two consecutive League winning teams & part of the team that made history by qualifying for the last 16 of The Champions League. At the end of it all, he was grateful for having been given the opportunity to play for a great Club & didn't feel the need to go running to the chip wrappers. The biggest compliment i can pay him is that the support privately recognise we need to address the right back position for the season ahead.
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Karma!Karma!Karma!
You can run but you can't hide from the Special K.
dbbia/EarlandRandyHickeyCSC
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Noel
Excellent. I thought there was no film of that game. Certainly in those days the TV channels didn't always have film of the holiday games - except for the Rangers wins:>)
You have spoiled my memories though as I have been recounting that dummy by Tiny as being Charlie Callagher for many years.
Dontbrattback was actually spot on as the pitch was heavily sanded and the size of Celtic's win was attributed to the decision of several players to wear what we called "sandshoes" in those dim old days allowing them to be sure footed on a treacherous surface.Certainly I know Yogi wore them.
I have never ever been as confident of a Celtic win even though we were one down at half time. It was certainly one of those games when 10 would not have flattered us. We were that good.
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Breaking News
"130 years of unsurpassed dignity"
Oh NO...
Rangers one of three clubs asked to cooperate with Police enquiries
into dodgie dealings!
Couldn't have made it up :-)
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BBC NEWS
Police raid three football clubs
Police have raided three football clubs as part of an investigation into alleged corruption in football.
Newcastle United and rangers FC are believed to been raided but the third club involved has yet to be named.
The operation is not connected to Lord Stevens' ongoing Quest inquiry into the Premiership and was "totally independent", police said.
Search warrants were executed on the club premises and two homes between 0730 and 0900 BST.
A City of London Police spokesman said: "We can confirm that search warrants were served at three football clubs and the homes of two individuals in connection with corruption in football and its impact on owners and shareholders."
A Northumbria Police spokesman said they were aware that "an operation" had been carried out by their London colleagues at St James' Park, the home of Newcastle United.
A spokesperson for Rangers FC said: "Rangers football club was asked to co-operate with a City of London police investigation and have done so, extending every co-operation to police.
"We have been requested by police not to comment further while the investigation is on-going."
hullo hullo we are the bent boys!
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Vargas, i can't aggree with your assertion that players/managers get of lightly because of there background.
Peter Grant was hounded for years's.
I don't remember Pierce O'leary getting an easy time of it.Neither did Tony Carscarino,or the Irish winger (his name escapes me) who scored against The Darnel twice,
during the Hampden season.
It certainly hasn't helped Neil Lennon on this site.
Sorry,but only a small minority (in my opinion)are influenced by such thing's.
With McNarmara's name ,i think you are clutching at straws.
Apart from that, his father brought him up as a Hibbee,which is well documented.
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What I don't get is why the City of London Police are conducting the enquiry? Neither of the two clubs named comes under their jursitiction, unless the third un-named one does?
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"Rangers aiding corruption'
probe
Woops sorry about that!
Isn't it the case that where
FRAUD & CORRUPTION are committed the Police investigations can take them anywhere?
"Search warrants were executed on three football club premises and two homes between 0730 and 0900 BST" I'm just wondering who's home has been raided? The Mint? The Sun Bed King?
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According to Sky Sports the third club is Portsmouth.
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The police investigation in part relates to the Boumsong £8.5million "transfer" from Rangers.
Rangers were also raided by Strathclyde Police this morning.
Northumbria Police have raided apart from St. James Park two homes in Newcastle.
My police source says that two people "with the same surname" are being investigated along with a former Newcastle manager ( whose name starts with the same letter as the Newcastle 2) and a Scottish "super" agent based in France.
Journalists have long suggested that the Boumsong deal was bent. He went from a Bosman free transfer in the summer to a £8.5 million buy in the January transfer window, but only a small amount of the cash went into Rangers bank.
My sources say a chunk of it went offshore. Who then got it is open to conjecture, but I have more than a very good idea.
The trail has been opened by a 61-year-old man- nothing to do with football- who has been arrested for money laundering large sums of cash.
He has spilled the beans to London fraud squad not the Stevens inquiry.
Computers have been taken away from St. James and the two Newcastle homes but they are not looking for blue movies, just millions of missing blue readies.
It looks like Rangers and Newcastle have a lot of explaining to do.
PS: I know the names of those being investigated ( five in total) but for legal reasons will desist from naming them here. Feel free to guess, though and I will correct those that are wrong.
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fraud and money laundering enquiries are usually carried out by the city of london police where it relates to crime by business'....
......just when you thought this transfer window couldn't get any more entertaining........
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Gordon, the reason it's the City of London police is, it's the fraud squad that's investigating.
The third club has just come up on Sky Sports News as Portsmouth.
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DerBHO'DontBratt was actually spot on'don't sound so surprised`¬)
Oh ye of short memories-he shoots,he scores!
If JHughes had been a recehorse he'd have been classed as a lover of soft ground,a real mudlark.
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So what player links the three clubs (Portsmouth, Rangers, Newcastle?)
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Sean,
OK- Murray, David; Bain Martin; Souness, Graeme; McKay, Willie...?
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Breaking News
Strathclyde Police have taken Sebo away in handcuffs is the latest development!
A spokesman from Strathclyde Police was beleived to have said
There's no way Sebo is a football player, and he's helping with our FRAUD investigations
BOOM BOOM !!!!! :-)
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Hi Folks,
Anyone know where I can get an online map of Celtic Park (one which shows the area numbers)?
I'm trying to get a new seat this year but the area it's in isn't one I know - and I can't find a map on the official site.
Any help gratefully received.
Bobo
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Thanks Matt, hadn't thought of the city connection.
Sean South,
Would the two with the same name be Shepherd? And we can all guess the former manager.
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Evening, is big Sams boy not an agent ?
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Newcastle United are trying to say that "the club itself " is not under investigation.
But individuals who have worked for the club are being investigated.
Their statement to the Stock Exchange is PR speak for some people no longer connected to the club (i.e two of the three) and another who is off sick.
The NUFC statement to the Stock Exchange reads:
"Company Newcastle United PLC
TIDM NCU
Headline Statement re investigation
Released 16:12 16-Jul-07
Number 3250A
RNS Number:3250A
Newcastle United PLC
16 July 2007
16 July 2007
NEWCASTLE UNITED PLC
Newcastle United can confirm that it was visited this morning (Monday July 16)
by the City of London Police.
The Club itself is not the subject of the investigation.
If the investigation by the City of London Police, or the ongoing internal
review of operations by the Club's new owners, show that the Club has been the
victim of any criminal activity, the Club will take appropriate action.
Enquiries:
Gary Oliver Newcastle United 07717 511 900 "
The ploce are not investigating deals that inter-link Rangers, Pompey and Newcastle.
But two of the deals are deffo Boumsong from Rangers to Newcastle and Amady Faye from Pompey to Newcastle.
They are looking at claims that money went missing from those deals and was then money laundered offshore.
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It could be interesting if the courts decide Rangers must hand over the £8m they got for Boumsong. What's the world record 'time to pay' request ?
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Bobo On The Corner hope this helps.
http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=51527
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Allardyce Jnr is an agent,as is the son of Sir Alex.
Tommy Sheridan isn't a football agent.
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Just thinking about this wee story and a thought came to me? were the ALLEGED (ahem) accusations true.
Then how would the New Chief Executive of the Scottish Football Association handle it???
Fines,Points Deductions,Public Floggings.
What about UEFA what would their take on it be (after West Ham) and we've still got the Stevens Inquiry to look forward to.
Dear Oh Dear!
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love to see some media pressure on murray to be stripped of knighthood :-)
dont be decieved into thinking its all souness....
an investigation into dignity f.c.'s scandinavian transfers under watty would unearth a few anomalies!!!!
let me quote again from the respected investigative journalist Tom Bower.....
''Morabito (crooked italian agent) was especially close to Walter Smith of Glasgow Rangers. After a friendly match between FCM and Rangers in Herning, di Lange sat with Morabito and Walter Smith at the Hotel Eude. He claims to have seen Morabito hand Smith an envelope.............''
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It was his P45,he wanted to save on the postage!
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Noel90 @14.43,
You have made my YEAR!! I haven't seen footage of that game ever. It was one of the very few times I was ever watching from the old Celtic end. I saw every goal and that is about all. The fog was so thick. Big Yogi used to wear the sannies occasionally when the pitch was bone hard and when he was on his game (which no one could predict) he was unstoppable. To me, the class act, as ever, was Charlie Gallagher and, I know Bobby Murdoch was playing!!
Kojo mentioned two of my Dad's favourite players last night: Pat MacCauley and Joe Bailey. I never saw them but I feel the same about Charlie.
By the way, Tiny Wharton grew up with my Dad in Springfield Road. He was allowed to play football with the other lads because he had a ball.
Oh, the day only gets better: the Police have served search warrants on Rangers. Dignified or what!!!
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....a free pass to willie wonkas chocolate factory which somehow made its way to BFDJ
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Noel/Derbyshire
The footage of the Tiny Wharton step over is,I believe ,on a video
Great Celtic Action from the 60s (or it`s follow up unusuly titled more GCAF60s).
Tiny ..the Irish winger is Paul Byrne ..I remember one peach of a goal against Rangers.
I understand it is feared that the top people at Rangers may have gone on the lam.They have issued a statement saying that they welcome the chase.The police say that
Though the straits be broad and narrow we`ll follow we will
Follow we will,Folow we will.
The laughingpoliceman CSC
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Have to say guys ,im liking the sound of this Sir Dodgy Dave/Beast(666) investigation.I hope it comes up trumphs and Smudger can start handing out the appropriate punishment at the SFA.
It raises more eyebrows regarding Dignity fc and the alleged bin liners of cash.
Sorry im trying not to snigger here as i type this.
Dream scenario - hand back the £8.5M Boumsong cash and docked points for next season :-)
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Is the world record in how many computers you can smash up with a large hammer about to be broken down Ibrox way? Is there any truth that back up floppys are this minute being hurled out the bill struth windaes ?
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....And that BFDJ thought xmas had come early when he heard it was raining giant after eight(million) mints....
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no precedent i can think of for punishment. but would hope that its UEFA that dish it out, given that its a french signing.
that way we could be looking at a european ban. even 1 yr would have the potential to cause the house of cards to fold on dodgy dave.
certainly stop his prospective sale for the time being.
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For every £5 Celtic launder we'll launder £10[allegedly].
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Is this the start of the Generation of Incarceration?
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Innocent until proven guilty, of course, but what a mess.
We have discussed the pack of cards that is Rangers finances, the tens of millions of pounds in goodwill and £139m property ‘assets’ that underpin them.
Rangers have been working on turning their finances around at a slow and managed pace. If their asset valuations are tested by a sale being forced, they could be in for a very short season.
Murray International Holdings (MIH) balance sheet is totally dependant on Rangers asset valuations. It the club suffers a forced sale exposing an inflated value; the trouble will rise to the holding company.
What are the chances of them doing any more transfer business this summer? I suspect practically zero.
Sean South, if your information is correct, that the police are investigating monies mis-appropriated the club is in real peril.
I have two words for you; Third Lanark.
This story has a long way to run; just when you thought the summer had been going our way!
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Not surprised one bit to hear that Rangers are allegedly corrupt (anyone who allegedy works in the Scottish engineering sector will know that Murray Metals are allegedly as bent as an 11 bob bit.) What surprises me is the establishment taking action against its own!
I can forsee a whitewash all the same. A private wrap on the knuckles for davie boy.
Would be good to see them get what they deserve though
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My memory isn't what it was BUT did rangers win the league with Boumsong in their squad?
If so then i think we should petition Duffield to take the honorable course of action and hand the title to US.
Who can we get to email Radio Clyde for starters?
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Your right Mick there is only one man for the job ! I believe the phone ins start tonight but not sure. If so, what a day to start.
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Paul-not the least of the ironies is that before this little moonbeam landed in our laps we'd been posting about Signor Capone.
And history reminds us that when his namesake went down it was for financial irregularities,rather than more bloodthirsty crimes.
I wouldn't want the City of London police on my case.I don't think they'll be bamboozled by fine wine and succulent lamb.
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One year ago...
Horses and donkeys...
Chris
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Paul,
the concerns re this transfer would flow from how the fee flowed. If the selling club forwarded a big chunk to someone else, there would be a Conrad Black issue.
Given that an individual cannot 'own' a player, then the club would have been doing a west ham during the time that the player was on their books.
Their only hope would be that the buying club paid the 3rd party.
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Am I correct in saying that all of the money from the Boumsong transfer did not end up in Rangers' bank? If so, then the allegations would appear to be against individuals involved in the club rather than the club itself, which was the alleged loser.
So I guess what we need is a Rangers shareholder to start making noises.
The rest of the summer culd be so much fun!
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The Sweeney's presence at the Death Star doesn't make the Clyde news webpage so far,although it is on the BBC.
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The Lids Come Off This Bottle
from CM.
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Remember what happened to Third Lanark ?
also from CM
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Dunno why, I just thought I'd look up two definitions, and the lyrics of a famous French song:
glee, noun
1. great merriment [syn: hilarity]
2. malicious satisfaction [syn: gloat]
schadenfreude \SHOD-n-froy-duh\, noun:
A malicious satisfaction obtained from the misfortunes of others.
The historian Peter Gay -- who felt Schadenfreude as a Jewish child in Nazi-era Berlin, watching the Germans lose coveted gold medals in the 1936 Olympics -- has said that it "can be one of the great joys of life."
-- Edward Rothstein, "Missing the Fun of a Minor Sin", New York Times, February 5, 2000
Schadenfreude comes from the German, from Schaden, "damage" + Freude, "joy."
'Boum!
Le monde entier fait boum
Tout avec lui dit boum
Quand notre coeur fait boum-boum'
(By Charles Trenet: sometimes known as 'The "Boum" Song')
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DBBIA
Al was known to to his pals as Snorky(meaning snappy dresser)
Sir Snorky of Barlinnie has a certain ring to it.
ScarfaceAl RSC
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ArdRi1014
My mobile has been going crazy with the amount of texts I've been receiving.
How about this 4th August 2007
Brian Quinn has TWO flagpoles to Unfurl....
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Great thread on Celtic Minded about the corruption scandal
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Mick -
if the Italians could hand Inter 2 titles they were cheated out of........
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Mick, OH how i laughed.
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Rangers New Crest
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"Scot Willie McKay negotiated the best sign-on fee to the player for Boumsong from Rangers, based in Glasgow, Scotland. The deal supposedly included a clause that, should Rangers sell Boumsong within a period of time (speculated as two years), that they would receive a large percentage of the sign-on fee returned.
[edit] Rangers and Newcastle
As a result, Boumsong joined Alex McLeish at Rangers in 2004 and signed a five year contract. However, halfway through the 2004-05 season, Newcastle made an £8 million bid for him, which Rangers accepted in a deal that was finalized once the January 2005 transfer window opened. Boumsong signed a 5½-year contract with the Magpies. However, as Boumsong had played the requisite number of games for Rangers that season,
he still received a Scottish Championship Winners Medal, despite having been a Newcastle player for around five months by the time Rangers won the title."
Well there you have it, geeze our flag and title back,
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A wee reminder about what has brought us to this joyous place:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport.cfm?id=1192005
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If Rangers were to be stripped of the 2005 title, that would mean we should not have played Artmedia as we should have entered at the next round. Even defeat in that round would have left us in the UEFA Cup. Surely a claim for massive compensation enabling us to make late bids for Ronaldinho and Messi.
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Noel,
I think we should be told, my rangers supporting friends are REALLY hurting. te he he he :-)
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sean south
i may be naive,
but this sorry business appears more like business fraud (a la ernest sunders ) opposed to simple football fraud, ( a la juve )
and as such would this not be more concern to the individuals you eluded to more than the plc's who essentially were/are employers of the individuals ?
in other words, Guernsey Holdings opposed to NUFC.
and therefore gaol opposed to point reduction
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Noel - Someone....somewhere has way to much time on their hands.
They are brilliant, though....keep them coming.
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This has been a pretty good day-my only regret is that Fergus Mccann is no longer at the club.
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Will a third 'Hullo' now be added to the opening line of a well known, non sectarian anthem which is oft recited of a match day at Ibrox?
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What you will not see in the ibrox office tomorrow..
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Sean South.....I see that the manager at Newcastle for both the transfers you talk about was the one and only Graeme Souness. Why am I not shocked?
Will they be looking at the transfers where Souness and Rangers were involved at Blackburn?
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Noel and subterranean... Tip of the hat gents....Great research.
Now I know it has been a while coming...And we did not expect it to be retrospactive...
But...
Is this the WOW signing?
Times like this I miss the access to the phone ins.
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Strathclyde Police confirmed that its officers had executed a search warrant on behalf of City of London Police.
Phew ...that was a close one
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Subterranean, first class, your research and insight is light years ahead of everyone else in the country.
Gordon J, if that is the case, the police will make all the noise necessary. As far as Rangers shareholders are concerned, HBOS own 11% of Murray International Holdings, the holding company of Rangers, and would lose from such a deal.
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Martin Bain Helping The Fraud Squad Look At His PC
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Toonbarmy,
It beggs the question just how is dignity fc run then?
Sean South stated that Newcastle United issued a statement to the Stock Exchange as a damage limitation. Have rangers followed suit? If not why not!
I think full,thorough and exhaustive probe into rangers financies AND other player registrations should be made.
So this is how they did it:
"Rangers have won 51 league titles,and have won more major trophies than any football club in the world." wikipedia
Just lovin it
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I see Carlos Cueller had his wage doubled when he signed for Rangers.
I wonder is he worried about the club`s ability to meet this expenditure if the Chairman has his collar felt?
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I see that their Wiki page has been locked "Due to vandalism" tut tut.....
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That's true, Paul. I hope HBOS has something to say about this...
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BanglaBhoy @ 18.01,
Absolutely brilliant!!!
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Wit happened to Radio Clyde's phone in, it wiz supposed to start tonight,hot tottie drapped or juice coincidence ?
Who fingers got caught in the laughing piano ah wonder.
Innocent or ?
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This morning i had some mail in my letterbox that wasn't for me. I'm trying to make sure that it gets to the right person. if anyone can help i'd be grateful. I have a dozen brown envelopes marked FAO: Dodgy Dave, C/O Moonbeams & Co, T/A Pie in the Sky Casino?
Does anyone know where this is?
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I was walking down Paisley Road West there & stumbled on a black bin bag full of tenners. There was a note attached that said FAO: Dodgy Dave, Ibrox Stadium, so i thought i'd be kind enough & hand it in at the reception, but the guy at the door ushered me away quickly & said there was defintely no one there by that name?
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The Huddleboard is running a thread on items recovered from Ibrox by the police today-
Starting with this ......
then
these... from the petty cash safe....alledgedly......
this was found in the trophy room along with this man .
this beast was getting chased along the forlorn corridors of Ibrox.......
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Radio Clyde football phone in has been replaced by special requests show.
Dave has requested Dirty Laundry
By Don Henley from the I can`t stand still album.
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Paul67 and Toonbarmy: Newcastle's take is that any corruption offence has been committed by an employee or employees of NUFC and not by the club or the plc (which will cease to exist by the end of the month when it goes private).
In other words they are saying the club may be the victim of any alleged corruption.
The new owner Mike Ashley is presently undertaking a forensic investigation of the club's finances headed by a lawyer, Chris Mort.
My information is the Boumsong deal is at the heart of the Newcastle investigation and that the Police are looking at the role of former manager Graeme Souness and the agent Willie McKay in that deal.
But Newcastle sources tell me that Rangers are the club under far more scrutiny.
The Boumsong money was paid to Rangers and the Police want to know who actually received it and whether the full £8.5million appeared in their books,
A Souness deal involving Amady Faye from Pompey to Newcastle is also high on the Police inquiry and, wait for it, three deals involving Souness, Blackburn and Rangers- Barry Ferguson,Lorenzo Amoruso and Tugay.
But I don't think we are looking at points deductions or titles being stripped.
It is an allegation of business fraud that is being investigated.... and Rangers, Murray, Bain, Souness and McKay that have the question to answer.
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Quick, here come the bizzies
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Just found out about the breaking scandel.
I don't have them to hand, but I recall seeing a £15m (I think) entry in the last Rangers' cash flow statement that I couldn't be reconcile to the P&L and balance sheet.
I'd appreciate if someone could post a link to their last set of accounts.
If the police decide to invistigate Mr Souness' role in the Boumsong transfer (Souness is innocent until proven guilty:-), you would think they may also look at the tranfers of Tugay, Ammarusso and wee Barry??
Would make sense to me.
It is truly delightful watching Scotland's second biggest institution crumble before our eyes.
What does this say about a country that has turned a blind eye to its "132 years of unsurpassed dignity"??
I was too late to catch the news tonight. Did it make the national headlines??
I did see it was the main feature on Reporting Scotland. Did they have wee Chico commentating on it or was it someone with a bit of credibility.
I only hope the City of London police gat some officers up here quickly.
A combination of the lap-top loyal, Strathclyde Police and dodgy handshakes doesn't fill you with confidence that the truth will out.
But this is sooooooo good. Anyone with half a brain could see that mob are corrupt - both morally and financially.
Let's stay focused, we still need to finish them off where it matters most - on the park!!
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the phrase desperate men, desperate measures comes to mind.....and at the time of the boumsong transfer, Rangers were truly desperate......
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Druiddude,Murray's band are playing a live set at 7.30 from their new forthcoming album titled .....
Signings to Drool over
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ardri-
Alledgedly ,this was
Vargas Shampoo with one of those fancy new square drivers.........
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It is not my birthday, but I cannot wipe the silly grin off my face just now!
It is not Christmas, but I cannot stop going "Ho! Ho! Ho!" to everyone!
And I sing to myself, what a wonderful day . . . .!
Hope we don't sign anyone soon, wouldn't want to divert the attention of the laptop loyal when they conduct their own completely impartial, in depth, investigation.
Lycru
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AW NAW!
Does this mean my fiver plus selection of Greggs goodies (over 2 seasons) bid for Sionko will fall through!?
I was looking forward to him cutting the grass out here.
I'll get you next time Murray. Next time.
*cat miaows violently*
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Can't Rangers explain away these financial deficits by quoting that accountancy voodoo word you guys are always using?
What was it?
A mort in sash nation- or something like that?
Did Kojo?Collie etc; not predict a trip to Donkey Isle for Sir Minty? Is this it?
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Dodgy Dave
by Grouchobhoy.
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Druid dude - can i request:
Big Mess - Devo
Enjoy the Silence - Depeche Mode
I Fought the law - The Clash
Erase/Rewind - The Cardigans
Everbody's got something to hide except for me & my monkey - The Beatles
Knocked it off - BA Robertson
Walking on Thin Ice - Yoko Ono
Behind the Mask - Yello magic Orchestra
I am The Fly - Wire
The Sun ain't gonna shine anymore - Walker Bros
Danger Money - UK
Insult to Injury - Timi Yuro
Seen & not seen - Talking Heads
Walls come tumbling down - Style Council
Gangster's Paradise - Stevie Wonder
Dirty Work - Steely Dan
Up the Junction - Squeeze
Six months in a leaky boat - Split Enz
Say Hello Hello, Wave Goodbye - Soft Cell
Dear God Please Help Me - Morrissey
The Story of the Blues - The Mighty Wah
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Update from Ibrox....
It'd been decided to drop "Simply The Best" from the pre-match build-up next season.
The team will now take the field to this instead...
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Sir Paul...
Morning's News, contains no surprises..... to you, my friend.
Two years ago.... Fargo told us....
"Ray is going to Donkey Island!"
Kojo
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Thanks for the tip off curly.
Having a great time reading all about this.
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More Dodgy Dave
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Let's hope (and pray? is that ok?) that we are seeing the irrestible fall of that abominable institution called Rangers. The death throes? That would answer many a fervent prayer. As my Dad just said, when I told him of "their troubles", sarcastically naturellement, "it couldn't happen to a nicer group of people". I am not up on the legal implications; maybe one of the legal fraternity who specialises in financal shennanigans could let us know the real implications of what is going on.
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John_H -
Aye, it's brill, innit?
Oh the rangurs are CORRUPT
Oh the rangurs are CORRUPT
Oh the rangurs are CORRUPT
Oh the rangurs are CORRUPT
Just as well they didna sign Darren Bent, eh?
Cyrul
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Oh, can anyone tell me when Channel67 is showing highlights of the QPR game?
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Ah no howie feels
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I'm content to wait, it will all come out in the sash.
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Sean South 19:10
Surely if? (rangers) Bain or Murray are convicted of inproper actions of by business fraud then, surely, the powers that be at Hampden would have to find Rangers F.C. guilty of bringing the game into disrupute at the very least.
What do you think?
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Still no news on Capone?
Quick anyone, got 2 mins in this cafe left.
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We want Edward, we want Edward, we want Edward, we want Edward.....
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I´d love to know what odds anybody is offering on Sir Minty Moonbeams going in the clink at anytime in his life?
GM summed it up. This kerfuffle will end up in Scotland as a dead end. Possibly Mc Bain losing his job and his Villa in France with Donald Findlay representing him in a typical damage limitation exercise. It will be reported in the Scottish press that Sir Minty was broken hearted about having to fire somebody for the first time in his philanthropic life etc.
I wonder how the cuurent Scottish manager might be implicated however. Wasn´t Eck responsible for recruiting Bernard, Bonnissel and a few other players that were associated with Portsmouth and NUFC ?
Considering that this isn´t exactly a shock to anyone of our newly educated financial whizz Khids following the Scottish scene closely ?. Does anyone else think that the managerial roundabouts associated recently with Rangers and the SFA might have been orchestrated with this all in mind.?
I´d like to see David Taylor under the spotlight of an inquiring journalist right now.
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Mick, Rangers are not listed on the stock market.
Kojo, Fargo sure did, and what a joy! I hope this one drags on for as long as possible.
Disco, I doubt the SFA will have anything to pursue on this one. Not to worry, a fine or dropped points could be the least of their worries.
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Sir David Murray answers those corruption allegations in full...
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John H,
he's off to the USA with us......still on trial. (not criminal thou)
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The chorus from Deacon Blue's new song......(you all know the tune.....)
...and we'll rampage up the west coast,
through villages and towns,
We'll be signin' Boumsong,
"They'll" think we are clowns,
"They'll" ask us how we got him, we'll say, "We laundered money",
Aren't we pretty?
We're F.....C......DIG....NI....TY
Altogther now....
Sellin' up, sellin' up, sellin' up, sellin' up, sellin' up, sellin' up - sellin' up AGAIN, sellin' up AGAIN, sellin' up AGAIN, sellin' up AGAIN.....(repeat to fade etc, etc).....
Today is yet another great day to be a Celt my friends....schadenfruede all the way......;-)
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Oh the rangers are bent
100 years we have kent
Referees they have sent
Celtics challenge to dent
Oh the rangers are crooks
They been cooking the books
And the paper it says
Get Findley or it’s Strangeways
Oh the rangers are bad
I just cannot be sad
Cos for all that they’ve done
I’m glad I’m not a hun
Oh the rangers are skint
What happ-ened to the mint?
Every fiver they spend
Double i'll recommend
Oh the rangers are poor
Less mon-ey than a whore
Wae a face like Durrant
Sell her body she can’t
Oh the rangers are broke
Now the fires we’ll stoke
To make sure that they pay
For the deeds they did dae.
That's enough for now, gotta go, You've Been Framed is starting.
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I wonder could anybody suggest some reading material for a friend of mine who is going away for some time.I suggested The Trial but he rejected this as too heavy,He would prefer something with lighter sentences.
Peeragetoporridge CSC
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DuidDude,
are you talking about Edward here ?
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If Edward's not coming on here to entertain us, we might find some fun over here.
BBC Rangers fan site
It looks like you'll have to type in Rangers and hit the yellow triangle to make this link work.
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Awe Naw-
If I EVER got on the wrong side of the law-
and found out Donald Findlay would be representing me.......
My bottle would crash.
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Awenaw
Sir Moonbeams will be following Edwards example soon(I hope)..conspiuous by his absence.
Titus Oates CSC
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Noel90,
Depends in which court ?
My life - I'm a fool for you
You who take no advice
You who think evil
doesn't exist
Just because you
deny it is true
You're lucky I care
For fools like you
You're lucky I'm there
To stop people
doing the things
That you know
they're dying to do
[ Lyrics provided by www.mp3lyrics.org ]
You know I am no stranger
I know rules are a bore
But just to keep
you from danger
I am the law
A dog must bark
So evil calls
Both in the wild and
Within these walls
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I registered and tried to post on Follow Follow.
I posted a couple of probing question's.
Next thing ,"YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED"
Ban will NEVER be lifted.
Just how they cottoned on to me so quickly is unbelieveable.
Or are they controlling the site so that no probing question's are allowed?
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Paul67,
We all know Sir Murky wants out of rangers but with developments today will it not be hard to sell the club right now or even in the future?
Also, is Mr Bain still not getting investigated by the French FA or police regarding the "wee loan" he got from a football player/agent?
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Edward
What`s the difference between a nudist colony and CQN.?
Nudists like bare bathing CQN likes bear baiting
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I'm getting all religious on you and listening to "Jesus don't want me for a Moonbeam"
....I'm sure that's right.
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Incidentally, I think Eddie's up, run off and donned a fake tash.
He's now "The Dashing Eduardo Suarez" somewhere in the Mediterranean.
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tinytim
That's a badge of pride. You should get that printed on a T shirt.
To paraphrase one of Oscar's-
"One must have a heart of stone to read the death of little Dave without laughing"
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Paul67, been MIA for a good while but the recent developments brought me out.
OK since their not listed on the SM
what body do they have to report to (AIM). You have reported that their P&L accounts have been... creative.I'm not going to ask you questions that you can't answere but as Kojo(fitba) implied,somebody must look into their "creative accounts"
Terry O'Neill
Keep your powder dry young man,the rats are just hiding.Get them in your sights and open fire with both barrels.
Had my ear chewed off by an Orc,he's not best pleased with Sauron "alleged" involvment. Kept telling him it wasn't Minty's fault that the Beast had @*$^%£* them. Though he really went of on one... ach well.
When i said that their organisaton was morally corrupt ANYWAY--he put the phone down! Obtuse.
The Stevens Inquiry hasn't started
(In Ernest:-)
I really think we shud all email Duffield and demand something.....
GTF
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Parkheadcumsalford/Derbyshirebhoy-
I've read your accounts of this game-also Chennaise,Martin,Gordon and a few others-
it made fascinating viewing and I couldn't believe Tiny Whartons "dummy" for Bobby Murdoch to score.
Considering Celtic were just rising from the dark ages and it was against a very good Rangers team-it was some performance.
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Do you think the value of Ibrox will mysteriously change in the next 10 minutes?
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SFTB
The conspiratorial sceptic in me,think's that they are really scared of what's going on.
I would love to think that the police, have the technical ability and the foresight,to be monitoring the phonecalls made today ,between,Sir Minty,The Beast,Martin Vain,Wullie McKay,Harry Rednapp,and The cardigan.
They must be bricking it.
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Tinytim-
You have to tread very carefully on FF.
Step out of line -if you have under 200 posts-and you are finished.
morethan300postsonffCSC.
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Druiddude, “Peeragetoporridge” :-)
Gerry, the problem with Murray selling Rangers is that he needs to get enough money to allow him to back out without the who ‘pack of cards’ (how many times can I say that in one day) collapsing down around him.
If the rug is pulled from under him (not that one Kojo) the whole kit and caboodle will end up in the hands of the bank, and that will not be pretty.
I have never been fond of royalty, but I am relating to Her Majesty in a new way now; I too think he is worth a knighthood.
Mick, Rangers accounts need to be audited and submitted to Companies House. This has been done and there is not reason to believe anything dodgy has happened here, though I have my own views on the valuations of their property assets and goodwill.
Stay tuned, the next few days should be interesting.
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Noel
You will just have to post the probing questions,on our behalf.
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Murray, a Judge, a Crown Prosecutor, fine red wines and succulent lamb.
Surely in the near future :)
