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Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Celtic support demonstrate self-policing at its very best

Let me start by saying I have no idea if any Celtic fan was arrested or censured at Pittodrie on Sunday.

Celtic have 53,000 season ticket holders. Statistically it is highly likely that there will be a convicted murderer, at least one drug dealer, several fraudsters and numerous petty criminals among them.

There should be no surprise if a Celtic supporter is arrested for shouting an offensive chant. Indeed, offensive chants are so endemic at football grounds, as the Celtic bench found to their cost on Sunday, it would be surprising if Celtic fans were – to a man – above such behaviour.

The Scottish Premier League ask Celtic and their support to refrain from such actions, as they do every club. Celtic set out clear guidelines, which Celtic fans follow.

If these guidelines are broken by a fan, one of two things will happen; the rest of the support will acquiesce with the offender, leading to a widespread problem, or the rest of the support will follow the guidelines, and the offender will be isolated and dealt with by the authorities.

Celtic supporters at Pittodrie gave an outstanding lesson on how a support should behave. Their team received vociferous backing and if there was any offensive material, it withered on the vine.

I have complete confidence that the Scottish Premier League are, and will remain, pleased by the behaviour of the Celtic support at Pittodrie, who were an example to others on how to act under the new guidelines.

Celtic will receive no censure but I think it is important that the club and the SPL reinforce the positive message from Sunday; this was self-policing at its very best and if the media are allowed to undermine this it would be enormously counter-productive.

Posted by Paul67 at 12:02 PM :: 

286 Comments:
  • At 21/08/07 12:05, SonsOfErin said…

    On a lighter note, anyone else doubled up with laughter at the suggestino El Hadji Diouf has been linked with Celtic?

    Really, these agents should research a little more thoroughly before trying to feign interest for their players.



    And....first?

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:11, Hanif Uno Dahistri said…

    But, the Celtic supporter might ask - everywhere we go we're faced with sectarian abuse, provocation, prejudice, support for paramilitaries, childish insults and racism what should we do ?

    their is only one answer.

    Do Not Become like Them.

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:11, killerheels said…

    second!

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:11, Kano said…

    Well said Paul,is there any news from the club about the STV "report".

    Big Wavy,excellent.


    I am Strachan!!!

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:11, TheLeftWinger said…

    SoE,

    A player with such an offensive character, that his own fans developed the song containing the various offences he has been charged with in his short EPL career:

    "He spits, He dives,
    He even drinks & drives,
    He's El Hadji Diouf"

    £10million??

    Are you havin' a laugh?
    Is he havin' a laugh?

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:15, Celtic_First said…

    Take STV all the way.

    They should not be allowed to get away with their pathetic excuse for news. It's a waste of time.

    Something that would be interesting would be to know if anyone could list the advertisers that appeared during the commercial breaks around this news programme.

    A wee complaint or three thousand to them could go a long way.

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:16, Tom the Tim said…

    druiddude,
    From last post.

    I keep saying it.

    "The ba' in the back o' the net". There IS no answer to it.

    That wqs Maley's way, Stein's way, Celtic's way.

    STAND UP FOR THE MANAGER.

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:17, HHBhoy said…

    Celtic have 53,000 season ticket holders. Statistically it is highly likely that there will be a convicted murderer, at least one drug dealer, several fraudsters and numerous petty criminals among them. Not to mention mineshafters.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:22, Chris said…

    When the world seems a dark and dangerous place its a breath of fresh air to come onto CQN.Some of the writing in defence of our Manager ( as previously listed by Kitalba)has been inspired these last few days and if any of you missed the last thread scroll back and read what it means to be Celtic and proud! Keep it up lads 'One Gordon Strachan ' repeat till you ears get sore .

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:23, killerheels said…

    I am a Scottish born protestant by birth and have followed Celtic by accident, a beautiful accident may I add.
    I now don't live in the "worst small country in the world" and I am glad, why because the establishment is rotten and will be for a long time yet.
    The Police, the media, the judicial, the Golf clubs, even those with no affilliation with TFOD will look down there bigoted noses at anything Celtic.
    I will follow Celtic through places like CQN, will educate my children in the Celtic way and will occassionally go back to watch Celtic.
    It is not until you leave that you truly realise what we are up against.
    To you all - good luck with the fight!

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:31, Celtic_First said…

    killerheels

    You're still part of the fight, bhoy. We all are.

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:31, antsman said…

    anyone else surprised at the lack of transfer frenzy in the papers just now bearing in mind just over a week till the window shuts

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:32, tooheys_new said…

    Kano et al made the point vociferously in the last blog and Paul you have continued with the new thread. We must remain on the front foot and seek out and confront our accusers.

    It is no good Aberdeen supporting their official without good reason. He will have, as any employee in any job should have a clear defined job description. This will not involve approaching in an aggresive manner anyone that is within the area of play. He should be publicly reprimanded and we should insist on an apology from Aberdeen. Remember Cantona's attack on the fan. No sympathy for him (and not in any way comparing Gordon's action with Cantonas) but the fan was dealt with in no uncertain terms and quite rightly castigated.

    Re STV's report the channel must be held up to scutiny. We should not protect any wrongdoer in our support but if there any accusations being made they must be substantiated in full. As another excample the BBC reporter that was taken to task re David Kelly's suicide and the hutton report. Again not supporting Blair's actions and the Iraq war but the reporter had half a story, embellished it for news worthiness. We are not dealing with such a serious issue but Celtic and the support need to make a stand.

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:35, Kitalba said…

    Chris @ 12.22

    Never seen you name on here before and forgive me if I’m wrong but if smashin milk bottles put you up to that I’ll have the both of you.
    If you are who I think you are MT then surely you should be out on site putting that Alkylation unit in before we all run out of petrol as well as water.
    If it is you. I’ve been off sick so give me a call at home. Have not got much time to catch you for a beer before I go home.

    Get back to Mordor.

    Guys may be wrong but maybe Chris might have more in common with Edward than me.
    Still a good guy though.

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:35, Lennondinho18 said…

    100% RAGIN

    STV are a disgrace in stating last night that celtic fans are being reported for sectarian singing

    DISGRACE

    and totally irresponsible

    clyde1 this morning said lawell told strachan to shut up and not get involved

    LIES

    he backed him 100%

    DISGRACE

    I will be calling STV and Clyde right now

    RAGIN beyond belief and not willing to accept lies

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:38, Big Wavy said…

    Antsman...

    Surprised indeed....methinks Mr Lawell is holding the cards close to his chest and providing the rags with no snippets as to likely ins and outs....

    but 10 days to hopefully find us quality in the centre of defence, midfield and up front whilst moving on TG, JJ, BB, DR, and loaning out some youngsters...

    As I sit here on watch with the Celtic wagons I look out and turn to my compadre beside me and say :

    "You know, it's quiet, it's just too damn quiet...."

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:44, Lisbon Lions Upper said…

    11am news bulletin from STV, confirms SPL will NOT be holding any investigation or inquiry into sectarian singing by Celtic fans on Sunday.

    No apology. That ought to be made by Bhardwaj tonight on Scotland Today. But I'm not holding my breath.

    Think I'll watch it to see, just in case. Then I will ensure I never watch it again.

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:44, andycolo said…

    In all the furore regarding OUR MANAGER and STV the official Aberdeen reaction has been largely overlooked.
    Last night it was claimed in TV reports that the WAG (wild angry gent) had gone to the front of the stand to call a policeman over. Presumably there were no police available nearer to hand and the "Main Stand Supervisor" had no means of contacting the Match Commander, except perhaps by carrier pigeon, in which case his actions may be justified. However when his actions are viewed it is clear that he made no attempt to contact the police and instead contented himself with haranguing the Celtic bench, particularly Gary Pendrey, with much finger pointing and a total lack of composure. Obviously need a new explanation then. The Daily Record today carried the following account.

    Security chief John Morgan insisted former referee George Morrison followed orders when he raced from the back of the stand to confront Strachan and assistant Garry Pendrey after fans protested about "inflammatory gestures" made from their bench.

    Parkhead coach Tommy Burns accused Morrison of lying to get his colleagues sent off and Strachan repeated the charge when he met the steward in a corridor after the game.
    But Morgan said: "The steward acted after members of the public made a complaint about the behaviour of some of the Celtic officials. One of his main tasks is to react to any complaint made by fans.
    "He is my eyes and ears in that part of the stand and I believe his version of what went on."
    Aberdeen banned their steward from giving his version of the incident but executive director Duncan Fraser said: "We will await a letter from the SFA and a report from the SPL delegate and study them before making any statement.”

    Are we to understand that Aberdeen FC instruct their stewards to confront visiting match officials and attempt to lecture them following complaints from fans? Just another issue to be followed up.

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:45, barcabhoy said…

    in my view, as a society we get the media we deserve....

    ..interestingly there was some backing in the tabloids yesterday for the view that phone in's have run their course....

    anyone who lurks or posts on here is by definition hungry for news and debate on our club......that hunger is reciprocated in most clubs......thats the reason that normally sane and rational people listen to phone ins......the radio companies need to wake up to the fact that what most listeners want is a debate and discussion from an informed panel, a panel that does not need to pander to the lowest common denominator of contrived sensationalist nonsense....

    ....there are some good contributors on these shows who have excellent contacts and good insight.....some of them are even in the old media.....however they often end up as a parody of themselves due to being the monkey to someone like ewen camerons organgrinder.....if ever anyone is coming to the end of a short and inglorious career it has to be him...

    ...gordon never said that everyone who phoned in was a kestrel drinking , trackie wearing devil dug breeder.....what he said was you could be answering a question from someone like that, because the quality of question is assanine in cases and the anonymity gives such people confidence to make such ludicrous claims and comments....

    ...i used to enjoy the traynor last call show, but i switched off 15 minutes into the one where he pilloried gordon's comments on phone in's....it was utterly puerile stuff....for a guy who has had a good career in journalism, he is now a cross between victor meldrew and coco the clown...without the funny lines...

    ....the stv report is just another example of falling standards and desperation.....and the desire for the media to court controversy, whether against us or rangers, in a desperate attempt to prop up advertising rates is appalling...especially as they know it fundamentally damages the sport...

    ..i know it is fashionable to attack the media for being anti-celtic....i've said it myself in the past, but i really think the issue we, and rangers, should be attacking is the dreadful drop in standards....i hope that when murray eventually leaves rangers there might be a chance things will get better....his cynical use of the media to try and damage us and to tell lies to his own support is where the decline started....he has had a poisonous citizen kane effect on much of scottish football and society with his ego driven manipulations.....

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:46, Celtic_First said…

    Big Wavy

    Careful.

    That's exactly what Duffield said the morning of the City of London police raid on Edminston Drive.

    And he hasn't been seen or heard of since.

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:50, winningemmell said…

    Paul67 -

    53,000 season ticket holders and you have to pick on the Craigneuk Tommy Gemmell CSC




    WinninGemmell

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:50, winningemmell said…

    FIND DUFFIELD

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:52, Chris said…

    Naw Kitalba , Yiv got the wrang bloke there mate
    and heavens above Darkside indeed , well may the progeny of Ian Ferguson and Gazza join forces and publicly rip my heart oot with an auld rusty pitchfork than to have had ony dealings with that shower Ive been around since before the Great Man came into the crowd and telt us tae behave , but i'll for forgive yi this time(I'm away noo, I'm starting to sound like a Doric Collie) Hail Hail

     
  • At 21/08/07 12:59, Kitalba said…

    apologies Chris

    I know that I'm being set up in a fashion and smashin milk bottles alluded to it a few days back.

    I've being looking over my shoulder and chasing shadows since.
    Maybe to allay my fears you could point me to something you have posted previously.

    Again Chris, if I have made a mistake, in my nervousness, I most humbly apologise.

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:14, derbyshirebhoy said…

    Smelltheglove/tiny tim (repeated from previous thread)

    I would not like them to have missed the comment and presume they will not always have the time to log on so apologies to others who may be bored.

    I ask you to consider one simple fact about Gordon Strachan. He is an honest man.

    That honesty in his character may be uncomfortable for some but it is part of the package. That may well mean that at times he will say or do things that cause others embarrassment. Clearly for you he does but you have to ask yourselves what world do you prefer? A world of political correctness and complicity in wrongdoing where everyone follows the party line regardless of injustice or a world where truth and honesty prevail regardless of public perception?

    I have seldom had the courage to contribute to the latter but I consider that is to my shame. Where do you stand?

    smelltheglove /tinytim

    I am disappointed that neither of you took the opportunity to respond to my question as to your response to MON putting his arm around Neil Lennon’s shoulders and taking him to the Celtic End at Ibrox,most particularly for you to clarify whether or not you found MON’s action embarrassing at the time and whether or not you took the time and trouble to post about it on this blog. Your silence on the matter is perhaps revealing in that it suggests that the defence of a fellow employee is in certain circumstances (or for certain people ) excusable whilst for others it is not. That may not be the case but in the absence of a response we are left to draw our own conclusions.

    Tinytim

    I take your point about making criticisms within the family but you are I am sure aware of the influence of this blog and I would suggest that your lack of solidarity with the Manager simply offers opportunity for others to continue to perpetuate the line that Gordon Strachan is not accepted as “one of us”

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:18, mickthetic said…

    Perhaps this nonsence that wgs is being subjected to may well be the catalyst for the full suport of the.. erm suport?
    As there are still far too many Celtic fans unsure of him, personnaly i like how he conducts himself with the press, as celtic people we have always had the rough end of it from the old press, so why should our manager treat them with respect that they do not show us as fans or celtic fc?

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:20, Len Brennan said…

    Lennondinho18 @ 12:35 -

    Brother, don't contact STV or Radio Snyde they will quite easily lose your complaint and it will go unanswered.

    Here is the link to the OffCom and the Scottish Executive web-sites.

    http://www.ofcom.org.uk/
    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Home

    Given the publicity that the whole anti-secterian thing has had I'm sure they'll be interested if we all complain.

    Btw - to guarantee that neither of these organisations ignore the complaints try copying the BBC on the email, they always love to put the boot into STV. :o)

    /Bishop B

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:21, Tom the Tim said…

    barcabhoy,

    I'm afraid the media's agenda to damage us pre-dates Murray by about, I'd say,one hundred years or so.

    There was never a time, certainly not in my lifetime, that Celtic ever got a fair shout from these people.

    There were many ways this was done, e.g.the lobbying for any player, other than a Celt,for International recognition.

    The appearances list bears this out. There was even a famous example when Bob Mc.phail, a Rangers player, let it be known that if Mc. Grory was not picked for an upcoming game, then he would not play.

    In those days, the Press picked the teams and awarded Stars For Merit afterwards, which tore strips off guys that they had advocated to play in the team.

    To this day, I hate the sight of those performance ratings from numpties. I see it's a practice of some on here too.

    Anyway, I digress.

    What is different nowadays is the various other ways that we can get our information and slowly but surely the media is being exposed for what they are.

    Mind you, we still have some stragglers who hang on to their every word, but hey, dinosaurs also had their day.

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:33, noel90 said…

    Whose pocket is the STV sports dept. in?

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:37, itz said…

    kitalba

    Back on your feet yet? Maybe the medication if your taking any is simply not agreeing with you and in truth - no one is looking to set you up :>)

    Maybe we should bhoycott STV, never watch anything on it anyway, certainly they should be taken to task for throwing mud at us. And turning the other cheek never worked in the past so it sure aint going to work now.

    What I'm desparate to find out is the referee's justification for sending oor Gordon to the stand, I mean everybody could see that all he was trying to do was protect one of his team from the jobsworth's tirade, what was the sending off offence their exactly?

    I've been to Pittodrie many a time, the place is full of loonies, the jobsworth would be no more than a typical example, but there are plenty more just as loony.

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:37, Celtic_First said…

    Noel

    The whole thing is just teeth and hair numbing the masses with drivel about inanities.

    If you really want to know what's going on, CQN and Radio 4 are your men.

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:40, Tom the Tim said…

    Incidentally, does anyone else think that Aberdeen's head of security, by supporting his "eyes and ears in the stand", has exposed himself and his club to punitive action?

    This man is condoning a subordinate's action of approaching a member of Celtic's coaching staff. A dangerous precedent if not acted upon.

    Everything being equal, which of course it isn't, I would expect Aberdeen FC to be in serious trouble. Man bites dog.

    Interesting that "old pal", Willie Miller's baldy heid hasn't appeared above the parapet yet.

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:47, Tom the Tim said…

    itz,

    The only logical explanation for sending Gordon to the stand was to diffuse the situation, by removing him from the scene. I don't know if a referee is required to show the red card when dismissing someone from the bench, as I'm sure one wasn't shown then.

    Had there been a card shown, you can be sure the picture would have been plastered over every back page in the country.

    In this case, Underhill's evidence will be interesting, as Richmond clearly acted on his advice.

    As I said previously, Aberdeen FC should be the ones in the dock, as the steward was clearly acting outwith his terms of reference.

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:51, Johnny Mac said…

    The Aberdeen steward was well out of order. IF Pendry had done anything wrong anf this guy had either seen it or it was reported to him by a fan, then his job is to report it to the appropriate authorities (SPL official or the police) not start a slagging match with the Celtic bench.

    That action was NEVER going to stop any friction that existed, it was only going to make the situation worse. So, the Aberdeen head of security is totaly wrong in saying their man did nothing wrong.

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:54, x said…

    Don't get anagry, get even.

    As Paul 67 has said on many occasions these publications/ programmes only survive through the support of you the ordinary celtic fan.

    If you do not listen/ watch these shows or buy the paper then change will happen.

    Either the product will change or it will die.

    I speak as someone who lives in England and therefore finds it easy to ignore the scottish media except on match days.

    Unfortunately I doubt we can rely on the discipline of the Celtic support to teach these people a lesson by IGNORING their slimy product which sensationalises everything and panders to the lowest common denominator.

    You don't like Keevins stop listening. Market reseach will soon tell Clyde thats why the ratings are falling. Falling ratings equals falling advertisment rates. These businesses only respond when it hits them in the pocket.

    Why can't we be as disciplined as the people on liverpool who have hit the sun hard for close to 20 years.

    FJ

     
  • At 21/08/07 13:56, barcabhoy said…

    tom the tim.....

    i think the difference now is that in previous generations the media were institutionally anti celtic.....they are not now....they are only driven by commercial motives....i know there are some very pro rangers journalists, but equally there are some who are pro celtic.....

    .....the standards have dropped because they behave like "$2 whores from Division St" to quote walter matthau.......if peter lawell or brian quinn suddenly decided to cosy up in the way that murray has, you would see a change in coverage....you would see exclusives like succulent lamb in return for advance news on a signing......

    ...thankfully that is not going to happen, at the same time murray has less and less value to the media....he will shortly be more use to them as a target.....they know his shelf life has almost expired, and the rangers support will react very very badly to a combination of european failure and continued celtic domination at home.......

    .....however standards have declined, thats my basic point....the quality of writing is regularly bettered on here than in the herald.....thats a disgrace from the heralds point of view....
    you could say the same for almost any daily newspaper with the possible exception of the times(not the evening one) and the telegraph.....

    ....the old media have not reacted well to their replacement as a news provider......when i was growing up, the first we knew of the results was from a saturday evening times or citizen....now they can tell us very little we don't already know...so they resort to sensationalist nonsense...and they wonder why sales are plummeting.....they have to reinvent themselves as a quality added value provider......failure to do that will see them all at the same level as the star and the sport.....some of them are close to that now

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:09, andycolo said…

    I believe a forensic approach to Aberdeen is required. The assumption is being made that the steward was acting outwith his terms of reference. The first action should be to force Aberdeen to confirm that their head of security was correct in saying the steward was following instructions. It beggars belief that the club would instruct stewards to confront officials from visiting clubs and Aberdeen should be forced to publicly state their true postion. Either they issued appalling instruction or that their employee acted in error. I can understand their wish to protect an employee but the man chose to act in this public fashion and must suffer the consequences. Once the responsibility for the incident is established then any defence of Gordon Strachan becomes more straightforward.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:10, Johnny Mac said…

    Did you see the report that Steven Pressley is a possible candidate for the ICT job. May be a good step for him and he is, after all, a highland boy...maybe time to head back home. Also, he will be 34 in 2 months, so the next step in to coaching may be something that attracts him.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:12, Kano said…

    Try again,seem to have lost one in cyberspace.


    wonder goal

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:13, Celtic_First said…

    Yes, Barçabhoy. This is what I have been trying to say too.

    Content used to be easy. We didn't know what had gone on in the build-up to the match, in the course of the game, in its aftermath, sometimes, as you say, we didn't even know the result.

    Now, in answer to the great E-Tims exhortation: 'Tell us something we don't know…' the old media are struggling.

    They could try to go down a quality route, but the market might be limited. However, making garbage up and screaming at us in an attempt to whip us into a frenzy was a house built on sand and is in the death throes.

    Where to turn? For many, it's the beginning of the end.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:13, TommyTwistsTommyTurns said…

    Kano is Gordon Strachan !!

    TTTT

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:14, andycolo said…

    Second emaail to STV now gone.

    I sent you this email last night but have still to receive any response.
    I have reviewed the broadcast in question and Mr Bhardwaj introduced the subject by stating that Celtic were "Set to be investigated by the SPL.....". This created a false impression and is not only untrue but was known to be untrue at the time of broadcast. The most basic enquiry to the SPL offices would have revealed the truth.
    If this report is not corrected in tonight's broadcast and a suitable apology offered I shall contact OFCOM without further delay.
    Yours sincerely

    ----- Original Message -----
    From:
    To: viewercontact@stv.tv
    Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:15 PM
    Subject: Reporting Scotland - Sectarian Investigation

    Dear Sir
    In tonight's edition of Reporting Scotland your reporter, Raman Bhardwaj, stated that Cetic FC were to be investigated for alleged sectarian singing or chanting by their supporters. This contradicted earlier reports that the SPL match observer at Pittodrie declared that the authorities were entirely satisfied with the behaviour and conduct of the Celtic supporters. I have since been unable to find any other news source who can corroborate the story you ran. Can you offer any explanation for these discrepancies? Will you give me an assurance that if the story proves to be false then STV will correct the misleading report and offer an apology to Celtic FC and their supporters.
    I await your response with interest and will forward a complaint to Ofcom in the event that I am not satisfied with the outcome.
    Yours sincerely


    I have had no previous contact with OFCOM but many regulatory bodies require complainants to have given the subject of their complaint the opportunity to rectify the problem.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:14, itz said…

    Tom the Tim,

    I particularly didn't like the referee pushing his finger into Gordon's chest with one hand whilst pointing to the heavens with his other hand. This was a guy who was losing control on the field - waving play on over the head of a strichen Zander Diamond - trying to regain control by a forceful action off the field. In other words a complete Numpty.

    Remember Gordon's last red card was for having a joke with Neil McCann - an ex player of his - as he was preparing to come on as a sub for Hearts. Again you have to ask why was that an ordering off ofence?

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:14, Celtic_First said…

    See all my mixed metaphors there by the way?

    Broadfoot, eat your heart out and tell it to the hand.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:15, Tom the Tim said…

    barcabhoy,

    Whether motivated by institutional bigotry, or commercial motives, the net result is the same, i.e. anti- Celtic-pro Rangers reporting.

    Before the Internet and sites like this, many more people were influenced by their biased writings and did more than anything to perpetuate the lie that we were an inferior club, riven with dissension, whilst over at Ibrox, all was sweetnwss and light.

    Anyway, we are more or less on the same page.

    Interesting to note your reference to the (Pink) Times and (Green)Citizen which hit the streets within minutes of the final whistles.

    They were our post match read in the pub and my father always maintained that they held the fairest comment on the match.

    By the time the Sunday's came out, the journos had time to re-write their copy with whatever slant they wished. The Pink and Green were verbatim reports phoned through at half time and full time, unlaundered.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:19, Celtic_First said…

    Nice work there Andycolo.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:22, Kano said…

    TTTT,that was good.Very funny

    But I have brown hair!!!!


    How did you do the colour?

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:29, barcabhoy said…

    tom the tim....

    ...it's not always anti celtic stories that are the outcome....findlaygate and the you tube videos from osasuna were both given significant coverage in the media.....

    ...its only really bitter guys like leggat who wont report anything negative at ibrox....you can excuse guys like bfdj, because he's only doing in reverse what most on this and other celtic forums would dongiven the chance...

    ....i will concede that we have been the victim of significantly more sensationalist stories with no truth in them than rangers have....but i put that down to our higher standards and level of behaviour....it just isn't necessary to make up stories about rangers behaving badly.....they provide plenty of material themselves

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:29, andycolo said…

    Well said Graham Spiers!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article2296147.ece

    ABOUT TIME

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:30, Sir Titus Celt said…

    by late wednesday next week, we will be guaranteed full champions league monies, murrys house of cards will be folding around him, and the so called press will forget about gordon and tash-gate!

    HH
    STC

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:33, emu said…

    The Daily Record never recovered from our boycott. The Editor Peter Cox effectively "left" as a result of the decline in sales and advertising. I believe The Sun has a higher circulation. Let's hit STV ( still part of SMG ?) were it hurts. In the pocket. Boycott their programmes and let their advertisers know we are doing so. You can watch ITV on satelite or cable.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:43, Martin said…

    Kano,not such a wonder goal keeper should never be beaten at the near post...(martin the Cat)

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:44, killerheels said…

    andycolo,
    you can always rely on the Spier thrower, great read.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:54, Tom the Tim said…

    I think that Jobsworth will be relocated from his lofty position of "Eyes and Ears to the Boss" to something more appropriate to his talents. Perhaps watching people's cars, of maybe hidden among the pom pom waving majorettes.

     
  • At 21/08/07 14:56, dessybhoy said…

    andycolo
    I think you have named their programme as Reporting Scotland when it should have been Scotland Today

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:03, andycolo said…

    Dessybhoy
    You are quite right. I have now sent them a correction together with an explanation why I normally watch the superior BBC product.

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:14, hoopla said…

    Big Wavy -

    Made me laugh.

    Michael Douglas should play him in the film version...

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:23, HHBhoy said…

    The warning signs were there: Wattie Smith is tapped to leave Scotland, another ex Hun takes his place (ignoring Tommy Burns). Then another ex Hun takes over at the SFA. For me it’s blatant Masonic machinery at work.

    However, with Celtic being on a financial high and also having completed a successful season I was looking forward to additions to the squad and then onwards to 3 in a row. The close season was the funniest I’ve seen, what with the comments on here making the combined forces of the media working together with the Fod to buy Naismith into the farce it was.
    The acquiring of Donati was largely ignored.

    Celtic has been by and large going about their business in a professional way with a healthy, positive attitude. My confidence was on a high, I can’t recall much to distress me or worry about. Just looking at our midfield on paper made me drool.
    We’ve now got talent everywhere (besides a sure fire defence IMO), on the bench and waiting to come through. We’ve even got the likes of T. Graveson, Jarosik and Deek to utilise or sell. We are in a strong position.
    The season is just underway and things are looking positive. Good news.
    We get our financial report: record profits. Good news.

    What do we get? Our manager is threatened with a 10!!! match ban,
    and all the more galling is the STV broadcasting imaginary sectarian singing and behaviour about our support!! Whit!! Yes, the waning signs were there, but we’ve been on impeccable behaviour therefore nothing could happen.

    What has Gordon Smith to say about all this? I suppose the support will be cleared of misbehaving, but GS will get hit with a ban.

    I know the Celtic football team will do it’s best to win each game, this we can rely on.
    What we really need to stop the deterioration of the standard of the game in this sad wee country is for Celtics management team to come out and score a win over the blatant cheating and lying that we’re being subjected to.
    Come on you suits, take them to task., or even better to court.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:24, dessybhoy said…

    andycolo

    Good man, I will watch tonight to see if they retract last nights report.

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:29, Paul67 said…

    Ross, your comment had to go as the link was too long for the page.

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:38, ianinjesi said…

    The comment of the day comes from Red Star Belgrade captain Ognjen Koroman, `Rangers didn`t have a single thread of fair play in them.`

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:40, gordybhoy64 said…

    paul67,not long to go in the transfer window,do you have any info on the number of players we are still chasing?

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:42, Big Wavy said…

    Ian,

    I'll raise you with this one :

    "Anyway, you can freely tell Alan that he doesn't even need to leave Glasgow, because if he does, he will get the beating of his life.."

    That made me chuckle in a Dr Evil sorta way......

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:46, Stuart said…

    Paul,

    If we substituted the TV income of an EPL mid-table non-entity for ours, what would our turnover have been? Where would that rank us with the big boys of England and Europe?

    Regarding the broadcast right. Could we give notice that we intend to quit the agreement to give the SPL the right to negotiate TV rights for the league? I think we'd be better off taking control of this into our own hands. On the same note, I think that we get a raw deal with moved Kick off times and sunday matches. If we were getting £30m for the season then fairy nuff but, for next to nothing I'd prefer to see Saturday 3pm football every week.

    /S

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:50, Big Wavy said…

    p.s Please note that in my last post I am not condoning for a moment the threat of violence towards one of Scotland's finest fair play sporting young superstars.....

    no way siree, not me, not for a minute did the thought pass my mind, never, not a trace....

    :)

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:51, paul said…

    Totally off subject but does anyone know of a contact who works for Celtic's scouting system.

    I only ask as my wee nephew has been offered a trial with Hibs and I'm just worried in case they get him on an S form and then we need to buy him in 4 years time!

    Cheers.

    notpaul67justpaul.csc

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:55, TheLeftWinger said…

    Paul,

    with the exception of Skoosh, we've only shelled out a few gingie bottles worth of sterling to acquire Caldwell, Riordan, Killen etc.

    Tell the wee man to take the best deal on offer, and engage any football OTHER THAN Monaco-based Super-agent Willie McKay.

     
  • At 21/08/07 15:59, martinobhoy said…

    Apparently it is being reported in Italy that we have signed 16 year old defender Luca Santonocito.

    Anyone heard anything definite?

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:00, paul said…

    Cheers TLW.

    His oldman has been ravin' about the bhoy for ages noo saying he's as good as McGeady at 15yrs old, but that could just the feather goggles speaking..

    paulwhowillbethebhoysagentifhe'sthatgood.csc

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:05, Paul67 said…

    Gordybhoy64, all going well, I believe we will see three players this month – no promises.

    Stuart, the >£30m TV money is only the start of the income from being in the FA Prem. Commercial rights would also soar, from very modest to very lucrative. I reckon, all other things being equal, we would be earning £150m, or twice our current income.

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:15, Big Wavy said…

    Paul67,

    I hope this comes across ok and appreciate you can't say much but :

    "Are you excited about the three players we are likely (with no promises) to get this week (or so) ??"

    No sniggering at the back please :)

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:22, killerheels said…

    Paul67 -
    are they goodies, inbetweenies or squadies. Are you confident on this one?

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:24, gerry said…

    Paul67,

    Is it the case of 3 players in,(no promises) only if we can move players on....... or.... if we can move on 3-4 players will more come in?


    you get my drift...:-)

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:25, killerheels said…

    Paul67-
    Dad, when will we be there. I am bored.

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:28, winningemmell said…

    In all the brouhaha over The Incident at the dungheap it is interesting that there is ultimately no fan involvement. It's like when parents end up fighting each other over their wee boys' arguments.

    As some will have noted I have a lot of history with Aberdeen going back to childhood. I'm not particularly keen on the Dons or their supporters but I enjhoy their difficulties with the darnelists. I think they see the darnel for what it is; the visible tip of an unfathomable iceberg of bitterness. I also believe they were the first set of supporters to differentiate between us and the darnelists (ie they dropped the Great Balancing Act/a plague on both their houses nonsense beloved of provincial darnel apologists). I know they do not understand us but I no longer think they hate us (they did in the Eighties). We get it much worse elsewhere and I would hate our recent uneasy but peaceful relationship with Aberdeen to suffer as a consequence of some foolish behaviour on the part of match officials and Rene Artois.



    Rab Ha' for the Mothers. Now that WOULD be something.



    WG

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:34, Chris said…

    Att Kitalba , that was my first post as Chris ,I posted once before as wellathink a couple of weeks ago but somehow lost my bogger name (em new tae this gemme yi see )anyhow I intend to be a more active blogger fae now on cheers!

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:35, Ulysses McGhee said…

    Paul, I understand and well appreciate the message of well-considered spending... But...

    For one of the few times in the recent past (Including before shaping up for AC Milan) I feel we should secure the right signings to assure (As much as you can in football) retaining the title.

    I would almost go as far as to say 'At any cost' but I know what this could mean to the dressing room. And that would be my only reason for not saying it.

    There seems, if on here is anything to go by, a new groundswell amongst our support. This one means a lot and will hurt terribly if it is lost. And I would think it poor-sighted of the board to underestimate, in any way, our present predicament in view of 'the bigger picture'.

    I personally will be dissappointed if we do not complete all of the '3' and at the moment I would be happy if all three were defenders.

    The boys (With great potential) we have, need some guidance and organisation on the pitch.

    I do worry that no matter what our finishing position in the league this season that the captaincy of Stephen was maybe a mistake - especially in light of the fact that everybody on here, yourself included, is crying out for an organiser at the back.

    I await the final days of the window with equal amounts of excitment and trepadation.

    What does your gut tell you?

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:41, BigChipSuk said…

    How about bringing a CL experienced, international quality defender on loan until the end of the season?...

    After all, I can't see how he can play again for his current club, and we can't really afford to be laying out 10 million euros on a single defender. Surely it would be a positive outcome for all parties concerned (except the club that wants to sign him, but can't).

    Will somebody please give GS or PL a ring and suggest it to them, as there are only a few days left to make it happen.

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:43, 31003 said…

    Ulysses

    Maybe a wee bit quick to judge Stephens captaincy capabilities after only 2 or 3 games. Anyone who has ever been promoted in any walk of life needs some time to grow into their new job. He's feeling his way at the moment, the way you or I would if given new responsibilities. Personally I think before the seasons out we'll be applauding his leadership qualities

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:47, tinytim said…

    derbyshirebhoy


    From the last thread.

    I tried and couldn't respond as blogger went down.
    I only got back on this morning ,and had very little time to post before work.

    I did not post at the time of the Lennon carry on.
    Let me state i did not agree with him engaging with a Celtic fan after our defeat at Parkhead to the Darnel.

    With regards to MON,i applauded him for showing solidarity with his captain.

    In my eyes there was a difference.
    MON did not get directly involved with a Rangers fan.

    If he had done What Pendrey did,then i would have castigated him.

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:50, Big Wavy said…

    31003

    Can't speak on behalf of UG but I would hazard a guess that there were concerns about Stephen now being an automatic first choice.

    Would also have liked us to have purchased a more seasoned, classy centre half who one of the young guys could play alongside, and in order of my rating of their capability that would not have had Stephen as his partner.

    But the boss has made his choice and we move on and the current captain gets my support on the pitch.

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:51, tinytim said…

    I see that despite my being attacked for my views on the touchline issue.

    Peter Lawell shares my views.

    He has made a public statement of support for Mr Strachan,but wants him to desist from banter of any kind with the oppositions fans.

    It make sense to me.
    He handled it exactly the way i said he should.

    They way a calm CEO should.

    Well done Pierre.

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:52, winningemmell said…

    Give me a T

    Give me a E

    Give me a S

    Give me anurra E

    Give me an R


    What have we got ?




    London Pride, I hope........





    In the hall of fame of the bevvy game
    There's a name that stands alone
    It's a London beer and it has no peer
    Where the game of suppin's known
    If you know your ale
    Then you cannot fail
    To enjoy its malty tang
    Mr Fuller says it's the best of all
    And we know he isny wrang


    L-O-N-D-O-N Pride
    See me
    I take pride every time
    Yon red label oan ma table
    Fills me up wi happiness inside
    Try it, buy it
    You cannot deny it
    LP is the greatest beer of all
    L-O-N-D-O-N Pride
    London Pride
    The finest ale of all.


    Lagerhater Emerald CSC, That Wishaw.

     
  • At 21/08/07 16:55, Parkheadcumsalford said…

    After getting caught up in the brouhaha that was the closing stages of Pittodrie on Sunday, I wonder if anybody else thought that Caldwell did enough to stake his place against Hearts on Saturday? I thought he did better in the air than either MacManus or Kennedy. He seemed to shout more than MacMnaus too. Mind you, his passing, epsecially his long passes, left a lot to be desired.

    I do hope that STV are forced to eat humble pie and Clyde too.

    I do hope as well that any Celtic supporter who continues to harbour the delusion that the old media would just as soon attack rangers, because it is all about advertising at the end of the day, pay due heed to what killerheels said earlier. He was dead right. Their bias against us did not start with Murray. It has been ongoing as long as I can remember (and that's nearer 60 than 50 years).

     
  • At 21/08/07 17:00, 31003 said…

    WG

    When I was young
    Some time ago
    My favourite drink was Tizer
    As I got old
    I then found out
    Ye cannae whack Budweiser

    Realalesuckscsc

     
  • At 21/08/07 17:04, Ulysses McGhee said…

    31003

    To echo Big Wavy, I worry that a Captain is usually first name on the sheet.

    Stephen got to where he is on merit, I feel, and deserves his place in the team. I have stated before that I don't know where his ceiling for learning is and I hope he does not have one. But I feel his learning will be hampered by having to act as captain also, and if he goes through a right bad patch then it's going to be hard to maintain leadership. Through MONs time and til now I've seen a few young players show and ultimately dissappear - Crainey springs to mind...

    I suppose what I'm saying is that I feel the captain of a team should be the finished article and then you can accept them 'warts and all' like I did with Neil Lennon.

    U.

     
  • At 21/08/07 17:06, sesor said…

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  • At 21/08/07 17:13, killerheels said…

    Slight deviation but still on the "they've always had it in for us" thread, why did Scotland wear black and red socks in the 60's just like the Darnel did and still do.
    Lets face it the only difference then between the Scotland strip and the Rankers strip was the colour of blue. Can older contributors remember that being an issue or was there any kind of explanation given at the time. It must have been terrible for likes of Jinky and Ceasar to pull on those "red tops"

     
  • At 21/08/07 17:15, Стахановец said…

    I noticed on the bbc website that young goalkeeper Scott Fox has went out on lona to East Fife, so good luck to the lad.

    Anyone know if any other youngsters are set to be loaned out? I know there was a lot of attention around Paul McGowan, I think some SPL teams like ICT or St. Mirren could do worse than take him for a season.

     
  • At 21/08/07 17:22, Big Wavy said…

    Interestingly on the issue of captaincy, young O'Dea is captaining the Irish u-21s at the moment against the Germans.

    Unfortunately the irish are losing 1-0.

     
  • At 21/08/07 17:23, Tom the Tim said…

    At 21/08/07 16:55, Parkheadcumsalford said…

    I do hope as well that any Celtic supporter who continues to harbour the delusion that the old media would just as soon attack rangers, because it is all about advertising at the end of the day, pay due heed to what killerheels said earlier. He was dead right. Their bias against us did not start with Murray. It has been ongoing as long as I can remember (and that's nearer 60 than 50 years).


    I think that was me who stated that opinion.


    At 21/08/07 13:21, Tom the Tim said…

    barcabhoy,

    I'm afraid the media's agenda to damage us pre-dates Murray by about, I'd say,one hundred years or so.

    There was never a time, certainly not in my lifetime, that Celtic ever got a fair shout from these people.

     
  • At 21/08/07 17:24, TheLeftWinger said…

    Just posted on the Celtic Offical site:

    celtic football club statement
    Newsroom Staff
    FOLLOWING erroneous and irresponsible reporting on last night's Scotland Today programme (Monday, August 20), suggesting that the "SPL is set to launch an investigation into sectarian chanting by Celtic fans," the Club is compelled to make the following statement.

    'Celtic fans were once again magnificent in their support of the team at Pittodrie on Sunday. This followed fantastic support in Moscow on Wednesday and at Falkirk last Saturday.

    However, in an isolated incident a Celtic supporter was identified by a Celtic travelling steward as engaging in unacceptable conduct. This person was reported to the police and subsequently arrested.

    An SPL Spokesperson commented: "The SPL have no plans whatsoever to investigate the behaviour of Celtic fans at Sunday's match and at no time have we suggested that we might do so. Indeed the Delegate’s report complimented the behaviour of the Celtic fans and Celtic security procedures."

    Outwith the single arrest made, the Grampian Police Match Commander has also expressed his satisfaction with the Celtic support, their behaviour and the Celtic stewarding operation.

    Celtic Football Club expects a full retraction from Scotland Today.

    Celtic Football Club will continue to work strenuously against all forms of unacceptable conduct, as it has done for many years.'

     
  • At 21/08/07 17:24, John_H said…

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