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Now it appears!
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From the numbered one:
We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet? We Signed Anybody Else Yet?
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I currently watch live footie on a particular subscription website, as do many, but they have recently started to post highlights of the games they show on youtube, this no doubt will come back to bite them.
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Is everyone sleeping?
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Its so Lonely in here!
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I'll Never Walk Alone!
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One of the best vids on youtube Henrik Is Rocky!
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mornin lovejoy!
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Just to keep lovejoysalegend company,
I'm all for signing Shaun Maloney but not if Martin O'Neill demands Artur in return.
Keep telling it as it is, Paul. As long as I can get to see the Celtic, I'm all for technology. If their TV revenue dries up, a lot of English clubs will be begging us to join them.
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new to this, hello everyone
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Where is everyone they're not down HERE, are they?
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AT LAST! :o)
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Morning All!
Do I now hold the record for the most consecutive posts from 1st?
lovejoy.roycastlesrecordbreakersCSC
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lovejoysalegend,
being new to this down here in France, can you explain the mineshaft patter? Is it something to do with pessimistic Celtic fans
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Killerheels
You've hit the nail on the head!
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8? & - Mr Squinty-Eyes TB!
Must be Lovejoy!
Even Mr90 hasn't got a 'First Seven' to his name...its magnificent..
What I can't hack with these web-based media sources is that someone somewhere gets very rich - its then shown as being illegal - yet that person is still very rich after it stops. Does that make any sense?
I can see a day when bank robbery whilst smoking a joint will be legal..
TB
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Paul
You think there could be possible business today/ tonight, with press conference tomorrow?
Right
Now back to work I must go!
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killerheels - the opposite is a Happy Clapper! - which I am one of.
What I find odd is that the happy clappers are pretty well always around the blog whilst the real deep mineshafters only come out mole-like after a poor result.
Some mineshafters have a great deal to say that makes sense and would well to blog after good results as well.
TB
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is there an official list of songs to sing and songs not to sing
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Looks like the laptops have to work harder to get rid of Artur Scott Carson to Villa
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Aston Villa have got Scott carson on loan for the season so I wouldn't think they'd be after another keeper.
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Killerheels
Do not believe a word of it.The mineshaters are named after Jock Stein and believe that he set the standard to which we should always aspire.
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I've no sympathy for these big corporations who complain they are losing billions. They derive business models to extract the maximum amount of cash from the masses. Football used to be cheap and easy to go to watch on a Saturday afternoon.
These corps. changed the rules and want to make the punter pay for the change.
I don't think any of these companies have made their billions by following the letter of the law, especially in their early days. It's rich of Virgin media complaining about kids pirating/stealing their "content". How exactly did Branson start making his fortune?
As for Bill Gates.....
As you state, Paul, if they want to make some money from all of this, these Corps will have to drastically reduce the price. Better to make 1% of billions than 30% of millions.
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druiddude-
Are the mineshaters and Mineshafters two different things, I am getting confused!!
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Cant access the Killie highlights on bbc cause I am in France, any links for a TIC starved francophile
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Why is everyone getting so hyper about Maloney, will he, won't he ? I do not think he is so good and the existing players so bad that he is potentially the "saviour" for the CL. What is all the fuss about exactly ?
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Killerheels
Excuse the typing error it is a little dark down here
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Antibes - I thought R. Branson got his dough by having money already (inherited?) and then risking some of it on my fave music man Mike Oldfield. I think he's taken risks to get places and is still doing so. I once shook his hand as I think he's one of the few that I think deserve most of what they get.
Druidude - I must have missed something re the Mineshafters - whats Jock Stein got to do with it?
TB
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druiddude,
do you come up for the matches?
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Antibes-
are you based in Antibe?
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Kittenheels-if you haven't already tried this then it may help
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/sportscene/
Although having been there the one highlight was the raising of the League flag.
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Killerheels
LOL..No need to ..my candle burns at both ends
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dontsomething or other,
thanks, tried that link but it's only for UK based users. It sounded dire anyway.
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TBhoy- my fave Mike Oldfield moment:
my late brother-in-law was enraptured by his new LP of Tubular Bells on the stereogram when his old man looks up from the racing pages and says'Jeezo,that icecream van's been here for ages':~)
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here's the position - we have
Naka, Brown, Hartley, Sno, Bjarnasson, Donati, Gravesen, Jarosik, Killen, JVoH, McDonald, Miller, Zurawski, McGeady all looking to fill 6 places. Why should Maloney step ahead of the majority of these players ?
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Michael Collins 05:49 previous post.
Have to disagree Michael but that is what this blog is so good for, a platform to express our opinions.
I must have a little more faith in our squad than yourself as i think the current squad is good enough to get through this qualifier, I know some of my previous posts dont exactly convey that thought but that was the frustration of sundays result coming through.
I think you are correct about the defense though, we do need full back cover, that I agree, but we all know that GS will pick the same defence as played on sunday no matter if a new addition is brought in, unless its a real quality addition, but I doubt it, so we have to get used to this defensive lineup as I believe this is his first choice for this season.
The problem at the moment is form and confidence. What if the team bang in lets say 4 or 5 on saturday, do you think the form and confidence will rise before the spartak game? i think it will.
We all have to have some faith in GS at the moment to turn this, granted, recurring malaise around.
I do though hope that the maloney link is true and will come off before the deadline (is it tonight? I'm starting to get confused on that one myself) as he has the geniune ability to create havoc in defenses and can play killer passes, but if it does not and we get no-one in today that I think the squad we have has the quality to see us through this qualifier, if you look at the squads, I dont know much about their squad, but I bet they recognise a few of ours.
Nakagod
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i think your post, like those involved in the class action are incredibly short sighted.
you and they fail to see the benefits of seeding part highlights, interviews or compilations on youtube.
not only can these act as a brand awareness campaign, they can generate interest, promote the channel/network/program and encourage subscription.
furthermore, you fail to see the massive amounts of money that can be generated through the future pay-per-view youtube/google advertising network.
rights owners come from a position of strength in that their content is already valued by the youtube consumer.
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dbbia :-))) I am a total weirdo and think the original TB is my least fave of the 3 versions - the 2nd and 3rd can't be mistaken for the icey right enough!
TB
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Gweedorebhoy
Sorry my apologies . Not been able to post again till now. To answer your question I’m not happy with the situation before this CL game but I don’t think that’s for the want of trying to address the problem so I can’t be sure that it’s a lack of planning that’s causing the problem. I accept that negotiations for anything can take a long time unless you have a bottomless pit of cash and money is no object. That’s not the case for us so I prefer to believe that’s the issue and I’m comfortable that we use our money as wisely as we can..
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Really interesting article Paul. The football world is now just starting to confront the same rights issues which counterparts in, firstly, the music industry, and subsequently the film and television industries, have already had to address. I would argue that neither the music nor the film and TV industries have come close to a workable solution yet, as their emphasis on litigation and digital rights management as a way of countering unauthorised downloading fails to acknowledge the fact that such an approach is extremely consumer-unfriendly and always doomed to failure. Each DRM development is quickly cracked (as well as being incredibly inconvenient in this multi-platform age), and suing your customer base is rarely good for the brand.
The sporting world generally has not needed to confront this issue so quickly, because on the face of it, their core product was not being ripped off in the way that records and films were being downloaded for free on a mass scale. When a few geeks (no offence, geeks) sit in their bedrooms watching, say, an EPL game on their PC, with Japanese commentary and the blurred picture freezing every few seconds, its an irritant for the rights holder, but it does not substantially devalue their product. But if it becomes simple to access a game on your PC with TV quality transmission, a lot of the media rights value is lost.
I am certain that the lawyers will be unable to solve the problems confronting rights holders (at least not while copyright law remains in its current form, many argue that the entire law needs to be revamped to account for the change in the way that copyright material is now distributed).
Nobody knows how this is all going to pan out, but what is certain is that new business models or revised versions of old ones, are going to emerge. For example, if I was in the commercial department of, say, a large football club with a massive worldwide support, I’d be looking at websites like Joost and Babelgum, which are still beta testing, but look set to pick up a massive user base in the next couple of years. They allow rights owners to establish their own branded TV channels on their site. Viewing is for free, and the programming is supported by advertising. TV quality transmissions, free viewing, revenue generating, brand enhancing – that’s got to be worth looking at. A lot of the large TV distributors are already cutting deals with them.
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Killerwhatever-'dire'is not the word.
Let me put it this way,if you were looking for a game to match the grey,damp,incessant drizzle of the day then CP last Sunday was the place to be.
Interesting that the online highlights[which are being promoted big time over here]are only available in the UK.So much for the worldwide web.
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Travelbhoy
A (failed) attempt at humour conflating Jock Stein`s stint as a miner with the group who have been labelled mineshafters and poking a little fun at people who would question the credentials of those who may be unhappy with the quality of the football on offer and unhappy at the direction(or lack of) that they feel the club is headed.
Agrandoldteamtoprayfor CSC.
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Interesting article Paul.Copyright and piracy are and will be huge problems to many companies.
If a company based in a country with relaxed business laws finds a way to offer live games on the www at a cheap rate the take up will be massive.Will Sky and the major investors continue to pour the vast sums of cash into football?
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dontbrattbackinanger,
bizarre policy by the beeb, you can get every other news stream, I blame Gordon(brylecream)Smith. I am goona blame him for everything.
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Killer not kitten!Apologies.
Eyesight,which wasn't great to begin with,is also heading down the swanee.
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Anyone else having problems with the web page not refreshing properly? this was happening last night too. Paul is the site having technical issues at the moment at all?
nakagod
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druiddude - sorry - I am the worlds worst for missing humour on this site whilst being happy to dish out my own perculiarily odd brand and expecting everyone else to get it!
TBwhohadaSENIORmoment
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The football clubs are in bed with the broadcasters. The broadcasters will soon if not already will be getting into bed with the major internet providers. I´m sure Dubaibhoy can confirm how easy it is to control internet content at that level. I dont buy for one minute that these bumkin billionaires that have got into bed with football recently having not already covered that angle.
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killerheels
Is this link really not available outside UK? Like others I find that remarkable.
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Cheers Bloke109,
Thought it was my pc.
nakagod
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bloke 109,
yeah you can access the bbc pages alright but not the sportscene highlights as widely advertised, maybe it's my apple mac that's the problem.
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I see MoN has come out today saying Maloney will not be allowed to leave until the January transfer window at the earliest, interesting statement, considering the other day he was going nowhere.
nakagod
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unfortunately Paul many of us need to look for less official feeds as the official site doesnt support macintosh. While these in theory are only 5% of the UK market, they almost certainly make up twice this among Scottish Catholic adults as 15 years ago (and possibly still now) Catholic schools all had macs.
I used to have c67 but they changed it to be non mac friendly and i paid for it for nearly a year as they kept telling me they were working on a solution.
Then after not having it for a year i found a dodgy link on a football forum that turned out to be a feed from c67 but mac friendly.
I emailed them to ask if it was possible to use this feed but because of it being posted on forums they were then stopping it and have no intention of supporting macs. Bah!
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Welcome killerheels.
Poo, are you at the wind-up? If you re-read my post you will see I encourage Celtic to work with Youtube to develop new revenue streams. I endorsed exactly the strategy you suggest I have missed.
Greg, totally agree.
Brennan on the Moor, the risk is clear, and, as I said, un-quantified.
Nakagod, not that I know of.
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The reason why the BBC highlights aren't available overseas is due to the fact that they only have the rights to broadcast them within the UK: outwith these shores, there are other rights holders. I think channel67 has exclusivity in most countries.
Anyway, this brings up an interesting technical point: is is possible to "fake" your IP address, to make it seem as if you are in a different country? This would circumvent this and would possibly allow people to purchase cheaper content in other countries on the "grey" market.
(Interestingly enough, although I'm posting this in the UK, blogger has defaulted to German as I work for a Swiss company, with an apparently Swiss IP)
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very interesting article....my take on Finland being involved would be due to some influence from Nokia....
...Celtic have made good strides in recent years, but still have a long way to go.....when you cannot access CH 67 video footage via a mac in 2007, then you aren't even making the most of the opportunities available today..
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John
can'y you get a windows package for your mac that would allow you to use c67 ?
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Paul the blog is playing up.
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whitedoghunch
for new intel macs you should be able to install parallels desktop and use the windows media player for windows but for those of us with powerpc macs the overhead of using virtualpc makes it unworkable.
Might have to go and get a new macbook....
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john
I've got a macbook, and it doesn't work with CH67 at least not right of the box it doesn't.....unless there is a work around
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John
my lady looked at buying a new macbook recently but with the amount of software on her original by the time she sold it on e-bay and tracked down a shop down Leith way there was not much cash difference in buying the intel.
I'll get you the shop if you like.
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Great article.
I now realise it is my duty to watch games on illegal streams as it could lead to the collapse of the English TV deal. This will lead to Celtic being able to compete in the transfer market and maybe even being invited to join a bigger league.
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John. just got parallels for my MacBook Pro.. will post here how I get on with that solution...
CH67, Ch67 Premium, Macs, Microsoft......do not get me started.
To summarise..
AAaaaaaaarghhh......Some SERVICE please!
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Apparently the global economy is mostly 'illegal'. For example the drug trade is larger than the motor trade... Which means...?
Philosophers please....
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Macs
don't know if this helps
you can use bootcamp for mac which will create a seperate platform that you can use windows on.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
if it works I got it from the good mrs whitedoghunch
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Blogger is playing silly beggars again!
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Deadline for CL registration is midnight 9th August. Under player eligibility - deadlines.
http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19071.pdf
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meant to say the link explains it
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whitedoghunch thanks for offering but i live in Madeira -fnac has the old 1.83 model for 750€ and i can probably persuade the wife it was a present.
pjbhoync
please let us know as its the main reason im thinking of a macbook. While i think C67 could have another solution i also think Apple have to see that not having a quicktime equivalent means lots of football websites arent accessible by macs including the uefa site which streams champions league games.
barcabhoy
the solution we are discussing is to use windows on an intel mac. theres 2 ways, either use apples free bootcamp which allows you to install windows and reboot into it which would def work but means rebooting into that .... every time you want to watch football.
Parallels desktop allows you to install windows on the mac and then with a little speed penalty open them in the mac os.
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Killerheels, the BBC only have UK Internet rights.
Channel67 offers all this and more for a v modest fee.
John, bah! indeed.
Whitedog, it will be tonight before I get a chance to sort things.
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Interesting comparison of English versus Scottish ticket prices on here £20 for an ICT home shirt. No real mention of the massive English tv deal subsidising ticket-entry.
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Radio Snyde claims we will sign a full back before the midnight deadline anybody have a clue
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That's Thompson just left the club? Massive cut in the wage bill already... I thought he had left a while ago.
The (young) Celts beat Galway 3-0 with noticable absentees in the form of Gravesen and Jarosik who weren't even on the bench. We only had 4 subs. Hopefully this means movement.
I'd be dissapointed if we sell McGowan for £100,000 again this season he's been the top scorer by far at any level. He might not be able to do it when the level is upped but surely he deserves the opportunity? Another goal against Galway to add to his two against Finn Harps and goals against Airdrie and Albion Rovers.
Some action in the transfer market today would cheer me up. Maloney would do, Maldini and I might actually crack a smile!
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Vince the Parrot,
http://www.onion-router.net/
This is what you are looking for. If you want to be able to implement this then you could save a lot of aggravation if you have some knowledge on how your ISP routes information to you.
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Afternoon all.
Off topic but I just read this on the Spartak website...English version
09-08-2007
TICKETS FOR SPARTAK vs CELTIC GLASGOW GAME
Dear fans! FC Spartak Moscow welcomes you to the Luzhniki stadium, where the first leg of the Champions League 3rd Qualification Round game FC Spartak Moscow vs Celtic FC will kick off at 3 PM on August 15.
Tickets will go on sale starting August 10. Tickets are available from the Luzhniki stadium, RedWhite Sport shops and online at www.smbilet.ru
Attention! Season tickets are not valid for this game
Given that they are 3 hours ahead....does this suggest a high noon kick off over here?
Please someone tell me I'm wrong
Whoosh....who has 2 holidays left until the end of the year!
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Killerheels - the problem is despite the obvious superiority of the Mac most people use windows on their cheap pc.
I paid my money for C67 and that is only windows so you have to get some sort of flip4mac download to get it to work in quicktime and I think that is the same problem with the beeb's highlights as well
I'm tearing my hair out with it all. Good job I've got a mac and a pc at work. Mac for proper stuff the pc is an email box and for watching football highlights!
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pastyface,
can you not just install VMware on your MAC
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thanks john, i 'll give it a go
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stpatricksbhoy ,
Doumbe EVS
Mendy 5/2
Kadlec 9/2
Trablesi 7/1
Mo Camara 8/1
Ian Harte 10/1
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VMware - that's a new one. I just get annoyed and ask the Mr Pastyface.
I'll ask him - maybe that will work as the flip4mac upgrade I keep being asked to download doesn't seem to be free
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awe_naw
thanks for that link.
I wouldn't have the inclination (or technical expertise for that matter!) to footer about with IP addresses myself, but I'm sure many can/would if the potential gains of free football were enough.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most legal content providers (eg bbc, channel67, skysports.com, uefa.com) exclusively use IP addresses to establish the location of the purchaser. If this is the case, then could they not be on dodgy legal ground by providing content to areas outside their jurisdiction if people start using "fake" IP's?
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It's already been covered, but highlights published on the BBC site isn't available outside the not so United Kingdom.
I just got Eircom broadband up and going yesterday (I'm in Donegal) and it provides a link, exclusive to Eircom customers, to Setanta Sports with live and archived shows.
Does anyone else have this service? And if so, can I watch the Falkirk match live on Saturday afternoon? I saw the Full SPL over breakfast this morning.
I used to subscribe to Channel 67, but quit as soon as the club made the stream unavailable to Mac users. It was December 2005, if memory serves. Anyway, at the time they said that Windows Media Player for Mac wasn't secure, and they wouldn't be providing the service until it was.
I'm not keen on installing a Windows platform on my Mac (it's about as useful as a chalkboard) so I'm really hoping this Setanta via eircom broadband will show games live.
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vincetheparrot,
most commonly your ISP provide will provide you with a dynamic IP address for your current internet session. This in itself is already pretty difficult for anyone except your ISP provider to track down but not impossible. It would need to take a lot of cooperation between the ISP provider and the content provider to track you down. Having worked for large telecom firms I´d be surprised if any of them would waste their time and money on it unless it was to prove lucrative.
It is something that is usually more rigourously followed up upon when you are trying to view sites that are illegal. This tends to happen a lot in Arabian countries, North Korea etc ... where the free market and the cost of such infingements are deemed to be the action of someone trying to destabilise the government.
You getting a dodgy football feed isn´t going to initiate any expensive investigation into your actions. Well not yet anyway but as Paul67 has highlighted the more popular these streams become and they need to be massivley improved upon for that to happen, the more likely these billionaires will want to protect their own interests. It will be their decision however in whether to invest in tracking down terrorists or somebody who has been given a cyber lift over the turnstiles.
I see this going down a similar path to the music sharing problem that the music industry had.
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stpatricksbhoy , **Update**
Doumbe 6/4
Mendy 5/2
R. Neilson 5/2
Kadlec 9/2
Trablesi 7/1
Mo Camara 8/1
Ian Harte 10/1
**Hearts full back Robert Neilsen has now entered the Betting at 5/2 , 2nd j/f.**
Doumbe has drifted to 6/4
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Robbie Neilsons a dirty donkey ....
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St patricks boy,
I'll go N'Daw or Voltz.
Bonkers Keevins wrong again. Deadline passed he said.
Maloney and a full back and i'll be happy/
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What price Alan Mutton ?
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Killerheels - yes, slumming it in Antibes....watch the Hoops in a local bar. Lovely.
As for Branson, I believe he had inherited wealth to start his fledgling business but also had a number of dodgy practices in the early days. (tax evasion, for example). Will need to read his autobiography again to refresh my fading memory.
He may have had some business "acumen" in his youth, but has had quite a few failed companies since and now only uses others money for his new ventures. No longer a big risk taker, in spite of the hype.
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what I don't understand is why bother with windows media player and just use quicktime it works on both doesn't it
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Big Liam
Can I get a price for Wayne Bridge please? I'll put 10p on it - I like to win big.
lynnsgamblinggreensocks
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Test.
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Whooshman
Tell me it ain't true, a noon kickoff in the UK for the Moscow game???
Can anyone confirm this?
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BL
can i have 257 Rubles roughly five quid each way on Gary Caldwell
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From Uefa.com
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/fixturesresults/round=15104/match=301257/index.html
The KO is 20:00 local time. By my reckoning that's a 5pm KO in Glasgow.
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Whooshman
Sdstim
There's a mistake in English version. Russian version sais the kick off is at their 8 p.m. That means your 5 p.m.
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****Update****
No signing 10/11
Doumbe 7/4
Mendy 5/2
Neilson 5/2
Kadlec 9/2
Trablesi 7/1
Volz 7/1
Camara 8/1
N'daw 10/1
I.Harte 14/1
Hutton 14/1
W.bridge 20/1
A.Rogan 20/1
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Antibes,
not a bad life, hoops are the only thing I miss her in the Charente although I have Setanta including Celtic TV and the Dail Huddle to keep me going. I renew my subscricrption through my SKY card with a Scottish address. Hows the weather?
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Zbyszek
Thanks for that! Pheeewww!!
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Paul67,
Thanks for the welcome, I've been reading CQN each day for donkeys but never got round to contributing. Never miss it, real top quality-great work.
Any transfer news for the French batallion?
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Big Liam
Class!
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Is the time difference in Moscow not currently +4hrs due to DST?
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Looking at things from a different perspective , while I refuse to be negative is that this summers forward planning has been poorly executed.
Aside from the usual poor preseason , off the park in the boardroom , things havent gone to well in my opinion. Hear me out.
At this time and moment we're sitting with an overladen squad some "big" players out of favor looking to get rid before we bring in. Seems fine.
It isnt.
We knew pre-season we had to strengthen certain areas because we had a champions league qualifier. We strengthened midfield and brought cover for forward line. It is widely known we wanted a quality striker and a few fullbacks. As yet none have materialized.
Why not?
Targets not available at the right price?
We were led to believe we had the cash availible to get what we wanted and be in a position of strength when we did reach CL.
On my reckoning , over the course of WGS tenure he has had to spend 3.5 Million a year from the coffers after in/outs. This is after transfers out comes of the total net transfer spend.
Yet , Our nearest rivals are Allegedly skint and can equal in one maybe two transfer window(s). They have spent nearly 10 million this window alone. Whilst we can speculate on their finances , they seem intent to put the money where their mouth is and speculate to accumulate and with the luck of the CL draw it seems they have pulled it off.
Notwithstanding the quality of player they brought in was poor but it is there to see the strenghened their hand before the CLQ to give themselves that better chance. Whereas we were intent to continue with what we had.
This to me , is the boards fault for standing still. They've froze. WGS is left to take the can. We will win the league and Boruc is our get-out-of-debt free card if we fail CLQ round but I cant help but wonder if we speculated a little more , which we could afford , we would be in a far better position of strength right now.
Hopefully someone can make sense of this ramble.
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Zbyszek
Thanks
Thought a noon KO was a bit odd so checked the Russian version and as you say:
15/08 20:00 «СПАРТАК» - «СЕЛТИК»
Couldn't get on the blog to forward this news though.
C'mon СЕЛТИК (I think)
Whooshman
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Looks like all is quiet on the transfer front for us today, think we'll be going into the CLQ with current squad. What odds you giving on winning that Liam?
nakagod
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enrico
you are stating the obvious and i agree.
i hope we get to the champions league and i hope we get rid of our unwanted for at least £5 mill plus.
this income would leave us with a potential spend of at least £10 mil. somehow i do not see it happening.
pierre doumbe!!
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I have to say that I didn´t expected to get 1M for Maloney, 1.25m for Beattie and how much for Marshall ?
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Can't see Celtic hitting the 'shops' with 10 million on the 30th August.
Don't we always say clubs won't sell so late in the window as they've no time to get a replacement in.
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Whooshman
Let the better team wins!
Пусть победит лучший!
C'mon Celtic Glasgow
Вперeд Селтик Глазго!
The second one is good for your banner in Moscow.
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What every happened to Kadlec?
We were linked with him every week last few transfer windows but now nothing.
I seem to remember he was injured on of the times but very odd he went straight off the radar!
/Bishop B
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Danny, Have to agree with you there mate.
I've always thought that the best final hours signing on the 30th Aug are bosmans. The bigger names are always holding out for big cash big clubs etc, but they can become very easy to deal with when they think they'll be left without a club.
/Bishop B
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Please tell me the rumours of Doumbe signing are nonsense? He was nothing special and the if we are indeed trying to sign him after turning him down just a couple of months ago then it really doesn't say much for our scouts.
I don't actually believe it's true though. Hopefully......
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Ronnie Cully in the Evening Times is running with the Doumbe story.
