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Sorry, posted this at end of last thread.
TMC, DBBIA,
Thanks for you references to Kelly's letter. You would have thought in the Thirteen or so years since Fergus rode into town, he would have had ample opportunity to set the record straight as to the alleged underhand tactics employed in gaining control of the club.
In the book, Rebels in Paradise, by David Lowe, the step by step campaign to assume control is precisely mapped out. Included in this, is the part played by each member of the Board. Had there been any inaccuracies in recounting events, there was plenty of opportunity for litigation open to those who felt maligned. None ensued.
Is the mineshaft closed at the moment? Surely the new fella should be corresponding from deep within the shaft.
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let the good times roll....
basking in the sunshine right now paul!
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First, Now there's a First
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From last thread:
aviewfrom
We didn't sign Geoff Horsefield, so I would absolve GS of any blame there. We did sing DD as a stop-gap, experience centre-forward - never to be regular starter. So what, he came, he did a job, left with two medals.
We did sign AB and SN. I'm delighted we did, both are as close to European class, if not more, that we have. Celebrate them even more.
We did sign Virgo, who hasn't done well. I'lll give you that one. And maybe Camara, but he had been on our radar since MON and from what I understand, would have signed had MON still been in charge. He was poor - might give you that one.
But I'm not prepared to give you SP. Outstanding on his return to Tynecastle, he was signed when we needed exerpienced back-up and did a job late last season. He was particularly poor in the cupfinal, but we kept a clean sheet and won it. There you go. This season? Consigned to his rightful place as experienced back-up on the bench. And you're not getting Caldwell. A nightmare in Benfica, granted, but before that was part of a good-looking partnership with our new captain, that, lest we forget, kept two home clean-sheets in the champions league and guided us to several points ahead in the league. He'll do for me. As things have worked out, he may have to be on the bench, but that's due to a return to fitness and form, for JFK. The manager you slight brought him straight back into the team. And you certainly don't get Naylor. One good season? Yes, dead right. He's been here one season and hasn't played a 'competitive' match this. A poor show to criticise him.
Tactically inept? You simply don't win the league by a stretch and have three home victories in the champions league by being that I'm afraid. To stretch your point, anyone who loses to him, ie Ferguson, must be worse. Hmmm. As they say.
And there's a clip from Soccer AM on GS post-match from his time in England GS soccer am It's actually entertaining. GS communicates with me in the Celtic View, in the programme and yes, indirectly via the old media you talk of. But I could care less how he handles the old media. For the most part, their biggest story would be if he walked. It would make you happy too, apparently.
And it would throw us into turmoil as the start of a season with little time left in the transfer window. And make us the laughing stock Real Madrid were when they let go Cappello and before, del Bosque. Win stuff and get fired. Yet you ccriticise the board just now? Well I'd sure criticise the board if they did that. And yes, he is a board dream. Cut the wage-bill, wheel and deal at a profit, and win two championships in a row, get us to last 16 (tactically inept? Hmmm). He's also a supporter's dream if all that happens. Not the nightmare you suggest.
30,000 for a pre-season? Reasonable I'd say. It was Parma and a useful work-out. And, a victory. And a clean-sheet. And decent performances from most of the team. As I'll allude to shortly, we raise the league flag on Sunday. There will be more than 30,000 there.
My glass may be half-full, aviewfrom, I may even be optimistic. That's what comes from being a fan of a team that's just won the double and goes into Sunday raising a league flag. In my opinion. And I know we can win on Sunday. To say anything less, is, without resorting to insult, frankly bizarre.
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Ah well. Third is not so bad
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Welcome aviewfromabove...
Crazy idea, or course, but you are very welcome all the same :-)
aldo, you enjoy that sunshine, I'm off to cloudy Edinburgh.
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From the last thread:
aview - all fine I'd say except for the one about attendance at the Parma reflecting the majority view. I think that's just about normal for that level of opposition and comparable with the average for MON in the 'big' pre-season home games:
01/02 Fulham 56,000; Sunderland 11,000;
02/03 Ajax 38,500; Parma 26,948;
03/04 Arsenal 44,396;
04/05 Newcastle 20,000; Spurs 30,000;
The notable exception being the Fulham game.
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There's a big blowout on the go in world debt markets. Interest rates are rising too.
'Manageable' debt has always been the watchword, but in the next little while this may mean debts a bit lower than they are now. Lawwell and Co would do well to heed this.
Equally I'm happy to be seeing the Darnel incur even more of it in their obsessive quest to stop our three in a row. In a way I don't mind too much if they succeed, if it ensures that their long term burden is even greater.
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From previous thread incase EDB missed it
El Diego Bhoy no XL is the top package without any of the premuim channels like sky movies & sports. Basically everything you don't want to watch and nothing that you do want to watch. :-)
if you go here it shows you the banner add and also lists the different TV packages M,L, XL
http://allyours.virginmedia.com/websales/service.do?id=1
sorry haven't got time to try and do a linky thing.
spread the word.....
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paul>it was the metaphorical sunshine of the present celtic climate i am basking in!!
isnt the east coast pepetually 'cloudy'....:-)
apart from the odd glimpse of ' sunshine on leith'
enjoy the day..im backshift in bedlam....
outrageous mint comments re:scott brown...casting stones i think...
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Outstanding article again Paul.
If the Gods had been a bit kinder we would be going for 8 in a row this year.
Couple of issues
Whats going to happen to Barrow field
What will be the benefits to us if the CG bid is successful
Will the running costs of Lennoxtown be a cash drain.
Somebody told me that the Darnel pay about £3M pa to run Moonbeams Park
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Where did the Seville money go ?
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jsm69 - Just to further what you've written, you can add Sky Sports 1,2,3 and Xtra (albeit withouithe full interactive service) for £16/month. So that's £36/month total for nearly all of the live football that's available.
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aview...,
from the previous thread.
leave me out of this. I'm soaring way above the mineshafts, 408 row Y to be precise!
I always thought of myself a happy chappy. Tail's not awaggin', probably because it's not big enough according to the wife, but on the whole I'm pleased with how things are progressing.
Think back to black Sunday and even the artmedia game and where we are now (on team 3 to boot).
I know you'll never please all, but surely progress is what is required. I think we have seen that year on year, and hopefully with more to follow.
I'm certainly looking forward to a few Euro adventures this year.
Apart from anything else, no matter what you think of WGS's abilities, his ego allows him to work are part of the management team. That's from the board down. He is an integral part of that framework.
There will be down's as well as up's but I'm hoping and expecting more of the latter.
Come out the mineshaft, the sun is shining.
HAIL HAIL (nothing to do with the weather)
TMM
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Bloke 109,
Gotcha ;-)
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Theres a Buzz about the place
Celtic 5 - Killie 0
Naismith Hattick
just kiddin
Scott Brown, Venegoor Hattrick, Donati
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Get a Eurovox decoder for £120 and get it all for free.
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bloke 109
agree on your ab and Naka comments--I just wish he would play naka in a free role..instead of restricting his game to be as good as the overlapping defender's game...
Caldwell is Strachans blindspot-he is a limited player but strachan sees him as an all rounder...
On virgo- he didnt stand a chance-- as he was settling into the big club- he was played in 3 different positions and then the final nail was to play him in a postion he had never played in against dunfermline away...
Tactics-- even walter smith won home games in champs league ;-) And btw we didnt beat man U
He admits that a 4-4-2 is the best formation...
Of course I hope you are all correct but I dont think you are...and yes I will be there supporting anyway...but for me the sooner he goes the quicker we really progress
weeminger
thanks for the stats...I guess fulham was the last time that we spent over £7m in the transfer market?
Paul
which bit was the crazy part? ;-)
Can you answer me 2 questions btw:
How much debt do you think is acceptable for a club like celtic?
How much available funds have we not spent this summer based on this figure?
Dont get me wrong Im glad strachan isnt able to buy Mendy and Ezquerro
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This comment has been removed by the author after BigLiam wound him up good
:-)
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http://www.eurovox-scotland.com/
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WeeMinger That's an extra £16 an month the wife wouldn't let me spend :-) being in a house of wife and 2 daughters the time i get to view what i want on telly is restricted to when they're all in bed.
Seriously the Sky Sports doesn't really attract me. I get enuogh of an update on premiership from Match of the Day, the only problem i have is with (hopefully) the couple of away Celtic Champs league games but then that always a good excuse to go to the pub, or as I've managed the last few years to catch one of the away games live.
Thanks for the info tho'
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Paul67 - timely and uplifting
Hail, hail!
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aviewfrom
We didn't beat ManU? Sorry if I picked you up wrong, but blimey the view must be dark where you sit.
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bloke109
a dark moment came upon me ;-)
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aviewfromabovethemineshaft ,
And btw we didnt beat man U
Any wonder your teetering over the mindshaft!!
Here's what you missed :
CLICK HERE
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Michael Kelly's letter really is class.
The suggestion that the Bunnet and Co "created a crisis to exploit it to their own ends." is interesting. Wonder which part of the Taylor report demanding all seater stadia Fergus penned. Or did he have a say in appointing Brady and Macari? Maybe he thought Stuart Slater was worth all that money.
Almost as good are the lines "The Bank of Scotland saw an advantage in siding with these individuals. But they misread the situation and lost the lucrative Celtic business after the old board left."
Overdraft payments are indeed lucrative. The way I read it at the time Fergus ditched the BoS because they allowed the Kellys etc to stumble on in to even greater debt even after Terry Cassiday had phoned them ON HIS FIRST DAY IN THE JOB as CEO and told them not to extend the overdraft because, never mond the money, they didn't even have a business plan. Maybe the "rebels" had stolen it.
Celtic pre March 4th 1994 was a private club run exclusively for the benefit of a select few. The removal of those people was akin to cutting out a cancer. Good ridance.
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aview...
we certainly did beat ManU and in fact we put them in a position where they had to win their last game to qualify. On the night we were through, they were not! Despite a plethora of dodgy decisions in both games.
HAIL HAIL,
TMM
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big liam,
I'll never tire of seeing that and the hairs on the neck never fail to respond!!!!
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Of all the nights to miss the game!
thanks for the clip big liam
See that strachan hes a great manager!
Tactical genius....
Your going to tell me we beat ac milan at home now arent you?
Paul
Intersting review of the figures- is it copy and pasted from the annual report?
Nice to incorporate the MON ambition spend with the post seville spends to get a bit of clarity on the current position.
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andrew,
I think wee Fergus dropped the BOS because they refused to budge on the debt. They were going to foreclose on Celtic, but refused to negotiate on the normal basis of x pennies to the pound (where x is less than 100, considerably normally)
That stuck in his craw
HAIL HAIL,
TMM
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SICK OF SETANTA
With apologies to Paul for taking up space on a fascinating thread I feel myself moving towards the creation of an SOS site for Setanta sufferers of which there are a few I believe. This is long but anyone else sick of Setanta’s practices may well wish to take note and share their experiences and the outcome.
In view of the advertising campaign re £9.99 per month and the fact that my subscription was due renewal I sent an e-mail to Setanta on the 11th July. It said simply
“Hello
Can you clarify for me please what the renewal subscription terms will be? I take your services via the Sky platform.
Many thanks”
And added
“in order that there is no confusion I would confirm that my expectation is that I will be paying no more for the next renewal than your currently advertised rate of £9.98 per month.”
I received an acknowledgement promising a reply within 5 working days.
On the 14th July I sent a protest re the lack of information re the non - screening of the QPR match.
I received an acknowledgement promising a reply within 5 working days.
On the 20th July I sent a reminder.
I received an acknowledgement promising a reply within 5 working days.
Yesterday I sent the following
“I wrote to you originally on the 11th July.
I have sent 2 e-mails since on the 14th and 20th July.
Other than your standard e-mail response suggesting a response within 5 working days I have heard absolutely nothing from you.
I ask you now to provide contact details for your Managing Director in order that I lodge my complaint at your disgraceful inability to maintain an acceptable level of customer service.
I have to question if this cavalier attitude to long standing subscribers is indicative of your likely future treatment of your original customers and is a direct result of your winning part of the EPL contract.
If so and if my reading of the mood amongst current subscribers is correct then you may well find that a trickle may well turn into a flood once the aggrieved become organised to return your abysmal treatment in kind.”
Today I received a reponse from Setanta apparently replying to my reminder of 20th July.
It said
Thank you for your e-mail and please accept my apologies for the delay in response.
I can confirm that Setanta Sports, as with any business, initiate several offers throughout the course of the year to attract new customers. Each offer is aimed at different segments of the market and specific criteria has to be met for eligibility and the recent introduction of the £9.99 per month subscription rate is available to new customers only.
However, as advised, many different offers are launched throughout the year, some of which are available to new and existing customers so please continue to visit www.setanta.com for all the latest news, updates and announcements which are released on our website in the first instance, as soon as they are available.
The forthcoming season is an exciting time and Setanta Sports has a great line up planned including:
60 Live SPL games
79 Live Blue Square Conference games
46 Live English Premiership games
40 Live games each from top European teams Live Magners League and French Top 14 Rugby Live FA Cup games USPGA Golf North American Sports, plus many other sporting events.
If further information or assistance is required, please call our Customer Services team on the number below. Our lines are open from 8.00 am to midnight, seven days a week.
Yours sincerely
Donna Mathieson
Setanta Sports Customer Services
I have written the following reply
Thank you for your e-mail, apparently in response to mine of the 20th July.
It is co-incidental perhaps that this has come so promptly after my e-mail of yesterday requesting contact details for your Managing Director. Whether or not that is the case please note that I still require those details.
Your response is most interesting. I am intrigued that you should feel that your programme schedule including so many items that I have no interest in is some sort of attraction.
I am also intrigued by your claim that " as advised, many different offers are launched throughout the year, some of which are available to new and existing customers." Would you care to quote an example of any offer that I might have taken up during the past 12 months?
In your response you have still failed however to answer the basic question I put to you on the 11th July which was " Can you clarify for me please what the renewal subscription terms will be? I take your services via the Sky platform."
I would also point out that my experience thus far as a customer gives me cause for concern regarding the ethics of your company since last year at renewal you charged me £180 whilst charging other existing customers £140. I had to point this out to you in order to obtain parity on that occasion. Am I surprised to find that on checking my VISA details today that this year you have again charged £180 to my VISA account, this on the 25th July, 14 days after my e-mails to you?
For the avoidance of doubt I would confirm that your failure to respond in the timescale promised has denied me the opportunity to cancel my subscription should I have wished to do so.
Clearly I find your response less than acceptable since it would have been of benefit to me to cancel my subscription and re-apply to benefit from the terms offered to new customers bearing in mind that your existing customer base is so obviously undervalued.
I look forward to your response, hopefully within 5 working days on this occasion.
The attitude of Setanta is I find a common one with any number of companies today. Ignore correspondence and in the end the little guy will get tired and go away. Clearly only subscriber numbers are important to Setanta and all they will take notice of so again I would ask that if anyone has similar experiences to let me know so that we may be able to demonstrate some greater strength at a future time.
So far I think the following subscribe to Setanta. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Caoimhin Dubh
Pfayr
Bonbhoy
Ardoch
Antsman
Lyn’s Greensocks
Henrik’s Sombrero
Ulster Celt
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Thanks for this excellent article Paul. I enjoy seeing some of the details underlying the strength of the club. We certainly look to be in great shape, and getting better. It seems like the obsession to eliminate the debt has diminished, is that because it's now under control? Or maybe that it's due to the investment in Lennoxtown rather than spent on something frivolous, like players!
How important do you think it is to the GoD for us to be the sole Scottish team in the CL group stage? Increasing our income while denying them cash makes me smile.
Finally, how many players do you expect to see leave CP before the end of the month? I'd hope 4 or 5.
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PAUL67
Whats your view on Maloney Possibly coming back?
I was a bit unsure but he was our double player of the year.
Plus I always thought Naka played better with Maloney in the side
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ha ha
superb derbyshire bhoy
well said shun
why we ever agreed to a 4 year deal with setanta al never know
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Big Liam
Thanks for posting the goal against Man Utd. I still get goosebupms everytime I see it.
One small of topic point for the coming season. Being out here I was able to watch a few of Japan's games in the Asian Nations cup, unfortunatley with only Japanese commentary, which might as well have been Swahili as far as my language skills are concerned.
However I couldn't help but notice how badly wrong we get the pronounciation of Shinsuke Nakamura's name.
We tend to go with ( excuse my poor attmepts at phonetics)
" Shinsooky Nakamoora," with the emphasis on the second syllable of his first name and the third in his last name.
In Japan it is more like, " Shinski Nah-camera," with the emphasis on the middle "cam" sound.
I imagine it must get quite frustrating continually hearing your name mispronounced ,and I propose a campaign for all our intrepid phone in callers to correct this if the opportunity arises.
Mon the Shinski.......
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aviewfromabovethemineshaft ,
No , we drew 0-0 with AC Milan , home and away in CL. We lost out to KAKA in ET.
AC Milan won the aforementioned competition.
Gordon Strachan , tactical genius indeed has a nice ring to it. ;-)
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Buy a Eurovox for £120 and get it all for diddly Derby.
Its the only language they understand
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Interesting article Paul. Well-researched as usual. A few downers though.
The key concern I have for the future is that I think the impact of the English tv deal will have far greater ramifications for our game (and the consequent team on the pitch) than any other change since the Bosman ruling. I am scared when I hear the likes of West Ham spending £7M on an average player because it undermines our aspirations. Inevitably, we are going to get squeezed and miss out on players who would rather go to mid-table obscurity (gaining greater personal security of £40k a week) with no chance of winning a medal than come up to Scotland and face the likes of Kilmarnock for £12k a week. Whilst we will always attract players with an affiliation to Celtic I would like to be competing for the best in the market rather than just those who want to come here or the flotsam left over after the Premiership bunfight.
As for investors in the English game, I think they are there for the long haul. Very strong cash flows in the future will guarantee that their investment is worth while. It seems unlikely that there will be any significant wane of the tv rights any time soon, but TV is not where these investors anticipate ramping up the revenues. The Premiership looks likely to improve on it's marketing at the behest of the new owners. Lerner at Villa and Gillett at Liverpool both think that Scudamore is a complete amateur and want the league to be marketed in the same way as NFL and baseball are in the US thus realising many more and greater revenues. Scudamore's position weakens by the day in the face of these hardened businessmen.
Another fear I have is that we are only as good as the people we have at the top. Brian Quinn is the consummate professional when it comes to dealing with the media. He is very skilled in dealing with the obstacles that come his way. However, he has made clear that he intends to retire fairly soon. Can we guarantee that we will have someone of his calibre to replace him (Dr John Reid may be well-connected but somehow I think the cabinet pitbull could whip up as many storms as he calms)?
Peter Lawell's capabilities speak for themselves. I would not be surprised to see some big Premiership clubs (and other business outwith football) casting an envious eye at the current Chief Exec. He has made it no secret that he will leave Celtic at some point soon.
When Lawell and Quinn leave there will be a considerable strategic gap at Parkhead. I only hope that there are already plans in place to ensure that their successions are achieved as smoothly as possible for the tumultuous years ahead.
Tutti
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Beijingcelt
Ditto with Boruc. We get Boruk, Borutch and Boruts. I believe the last is the correct one.
How hard can it be for commentators to do just a little bit of research by, well, asking the guy??
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Benny I ahd a look at that site does the box work through satellite or only through cable?
Also does it require 'upgrades' to allow you to get all the channels for free
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aviewfromabovethemineshaft , Beijingcelt , themadmurph ,
This one is my favourite. Enjoy.
CLICK HERE
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Actually as I remember it from commentary if we want to be properly respectful to the Asian convention of family name followed by given name, then it should Nahcamera Shinski.
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Just aff the blower fae my mate in Edinburgh and he says that the bold Hibees are aboot ta dae a double raid on PH fur two of their former players!
My first thoughts wur Riordan and Caldwell, but he says the first wan wis right but the other wan wisnae.
It seems that the Hibees are keen on a return fur a certain Kenny Millar!!
Truth or single fish it's wit he's sayin'. IMHO I think this wid be a brilliant move and wid free up places fur Naismith and Maloney.
Beijingcelt - I think the way yi'd say Naka's name wid be Shoonski Nakamoora, least 'ats the way the boy wie the mad eye's on Celtic TV says it.. ;o)
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AVFATMS-timing is everything!
All I would say is that there is more positivity and negativity flying round this blog than in a Van der Graaf Generator[and no,I don't know how it works].
Available evidence to back these views is,as far as this season is concerned,with our newlook team,nil.So both the Subterranean 'Ticsick Greens and the von Clapp Family Singers need to get behind the team and help them to kickstart the season.
I am not Mr Strachan's biggest fan either but I look forward to being proved wrong as Celtic unleash wave after wave of attack to sweep all before them at home and in Europe.
New season,new hope.
Fresh page.Let's watch the Bhoys write history.
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Here's the deal Big Liam
Come a cold November and we've just ground out a dull 1-0 win to Killie or someone, and we're all moaning and groaning about, " the Celtic Way," please just post that and help us all remember just how ecstatically good it can be.....
Thanks again.
By the way, I would love to See Sean back in the hoops. Who among us never made any bad decisions when we were in our early twenties. Gee whizz! I'm still making them now, and my early twenties are but a distant memory. Quite simply I think we are a more balanced and creative team with him playing. A midfiled drawn from Aiden, Sean, Massimo, Scott and Shinsuke in full flow, and feeding into a mobile Jan and Scot Mac up front in my opinion will really be something special once it clicks.
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Paul,
No disrespect to the lad on Celtic TV, but I'm going to go with the native Japanese speakers on this one. Although I'll end up forgetting myself and reverting to Shinsooki before long.
Cheers
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derbyshirebhoy,
I'm in the exactly same position as you. The £180 came out my account, but there was no letter letting me know that this was going to happen. I eventually got through to them after about 10 minutes waiting, where they basically said that I had to write to the refunds department. I have sent them a letter letting them know that I wish to move over to the £9.99 deal, so we will see what comes of it. This really p*ssed me off, as being stuck down here in England, I have been paying Setanta a fortune over the last 6/7 years when you consider all the pay-per-view games they used to do.
celticbhoy72
PS This is my first post, could never be bothered with hassle of creating a blog account, but seeing the setanta posts tipped me over the edge...
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Further to my comments on Sean's possible return, I forgot to add in Evander and Teddy to the equation. It just gets better thinking about it....
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Greenlion,
Cable only I think but you can get gizmos to make it run from satellite apparently. Ive had mine about 10 months .As far as I can gather it downloads upgrades as various codes change
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Beikingcelt - Sorry the actual way he says it is Shuoonski Nakamoowa. Didnae gie him his speech impediment. :o)
Cheeri!
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benny
Excuse my ignorance, but what's the story with those eurovox boxes? How do they operate, what do you get channel-wise?
Sounds good at face value, but I was always told if something seems too good to be true it probably is. Any help appreciated.
Paul
Another fine article, keep them coming.
Long time lurker, occasional poster,
WC
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derbyshirebhoy,
you can count me in your list of subscribers
TMM
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big liam - thanks for the link - lest we forget eh? Now duly bookmarked.
And isn't that the problem with some of our less optimisitic posters. You know for the vast majority of football fans they will never experience anything like that night against MU. Never.
Yet we get it and in the same season as we pick up a domestic double and reach new heights in the CL and far from being content some guys are demanding the head of our manager. You could't make it up.
It truly beggars belief and I'm afarid these guys are doing our rivals work for them.
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paul
i would be surprised if hibs could afford kenny millers wage demands or even anywhere near them, i was hoping you would say paul hartley
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28 "Somebody compared him to Billy McNeil, but I don’t remember Billy being crap.”
Tommy Docherty, the legendary football coach, on Rangers’ Italian flop Lorenzo Amoruso in 2000.
From 50 greatest sporting insults in today's Times.
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WC
i have had a D Box for two years this operates the same way.
it works only with cable
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I have recently subscribed to Setanta for the season at £9.99 with an annoying £10 connection fee.
I cancelled some of my SKY programmes to reduce my payments to cover it.Will be interesting what they do to the subscription price after the season is over.
If you think Setanta show things you are not interested in SKY are many times worse.
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Apparently the Maloney story really is a load of baloney, in his own words on the official AV site
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re setanta
when i phoned to complain about the discrepency i was advised to cancel and request a refund - but at the same time apply at the new rate. to be honest couldn't be annoyed with the fuss.
i have been with them from day one, loyalty has nothing to do with it but they practically agreed to pulling the wool....they had always sent a letter to remind you of your costs and such, they were quick to tell me that they legally did not have to do this...surprise surprise..no letter and £156.00 out of my credit card. sucked in.
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Paul,
Are you sure you're not a member of the Board? Anyway, thank you for that heartening precis of where we are and where we have come from.
Thank God for Fergus McCann and the Celtic support.
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I must say that I am shocked about the Daily Record getting a story like this wrong in the close season. I think I might need a lie-doon following this all too rare puff-piece.
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So does the box work in conjunction with an existing cable box/connection? I've no real experience in using these things.
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Parkheadcumsalford
I agree with your last comment, Fergus had the business plan and the determination to succeed but without the support of 10,000 small investors who were probably all fans it would have been a flop.Where would we be now?
I am not in any way criticising anyone who did not invest at that initial stage just making a point I feel is relevant.
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antsman, As far asi'm concerned mate they can take awe 3, but i'd settle fur the 2 fur starters.
Regarding Millars's wages i think i remember his reported wages weren't that high but possibly more than the Hibees can aford.
But noo they have a few boab in their pockets fae us fur the Skoosh sale and a few skoosh bootles fae the Huns fae the Whittaker sale ye never know!
Cheeri the noo!
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wc
you just plug it into the same place.
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So you'd need an existing cable connection/subscription then?
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Paul
As ye know,pal, ah'm a sucker fur a Non Sequitur,
Non Sequitur? L'Amour Toujours!
Kojo has bet a bundel(?) on NewCastel Tae Win Da Premier League!
Dae ye smell a hint o' Reckless Abandon?...or, maybe common or Gairden... INTRIGUE?
Na! Jist a Mere Hunch, he say!
Aldough, some Hunches ur MERER, dan Ithers.....by da way!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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miketw10
On Maloney, I don't think that was taken from today's AV site.
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aviewfromabovethemineshaft.
I'm at the moment trying to catch up on the previous blog and have seen the contribution from you.
Welcome aboard.
One comment though and not directed at you personally but offered as food for thought. I then promise to leave the subject alone.
The comment is that it often astounds me just how many posters there have been who begin to comment on this blog with a variety of attacks upon either the board or the manager, the attacks being quite often presented in an aggressive manner who in turn are quick to whinge at some internet "gang" who apparently inhabit this space with the sole desire of driving them away. They then make the prophecy self fulfilling by withdrawing from the blog only periodically returning to moan that nothing's changed.
Someone else has commented that perhaps they need to realise that they are in a minority for me at least in the way they present their view of the world but accept also what most people say viz that alternative views are more than welcome ,that the fears they are expressing are shared at least in part by the others who continue to post here but that the way they are expressed means that they do not draw a similar response.
Again nothing personal but simply food for thought.
Paul 67
Can I be in your gang?
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Been in a posting wilderness for a while...
Paul, the cynic in me could say that this sounds like the kind of announcements that hi-tech firms were giving a few years ago before cashing in.
You don't have a wedding anniversary coming up do you?
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Miketw I believe that link is from a few weeks ago when we were linked with him then....I remember the bit about Petrov telling him about it.
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WC
yes you do
well worth it mate you can then watch as much cartons as you want
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AVs season ticket prices are reasonable. Comapred to us. Highest price £475.
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Sky Sports are reporting that torn gub Jeffries said Celtic were given permission to speak to Naismith on Monday but so far have not approached him.
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the sensationalist in me wonders if we have not progressed with talks as the maloney specualtion may be true
"Celtic wanted permission to speak to Steven so they should go and speak to him," said Jefferies.
"They asked to speak to him, but that was on Monday.
"What is a little bit concerning is that we haven't heard anything yet.
"I've kept him up to date with everything, but this could make it seem as if we are not telling him everything.
"They might be busy or have other things on, but if they ask to speak to him then it's only courtesy to the player that they speak to him as quickly as they can.
"It has caused a lot of anxiety for him and it's not fair.
"Steven intimated that he would be willing to speak to Celtic because there is no point in wasting everybody's time.
"And after giving them permission we would like to find out what they are doing."
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Gordon Duffield Smith's first initiative in his job at the SFA is to break fifa's rules
It has been widely praised by the Scottish media. Still, what do they know. This is a disgrace and an embarassment. Sack him now.
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I note with concern but no surprise that Duffield's first initiative is to clamp down on diving - not a great problem in the Scottish game.
I'm sure this gives great comfort to the hammer throwers who now must be thinking no one can go ground unless I really really hurt them.
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Spirit of arthur lee,
A gentleman you are indeed. Many thanks for the clarifications.
I'm sure I'd have more than cartoons to watch if this box is all it appears to be.
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antsman
A tactical ploy by da Tim Malloys!
Da coin it must foist go round an' round da Mental Machine,
Which.... SOMETIMES!..... wull mak da recipient mairer, KEEN!
Oan da ither hand...
It may be dat de ither, ither(!) hand... is Bizee, wit' a Case in Hand,
And wull get back... before da Glass runs oot o' Sand!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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"Fifa takes very seriously the matter of simulation and of any form of cheating in football and actively supports and participates in many initiatives to promote fair play and eliminate cheating from our sport," it said.
Hmmm... So why don't they do anything about it then? I personally back Gordon Smith's attempts to clean up the game, and I've been an advocate of this type of retrospective rule for ages now.
What player is going to dive in the hope that the ref doesn't see it, when they know that a panel of judges will see it later on?
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SAOL/watchingcartoons - you may find that if you cancel your subscription that they don't actually switch the signal off to your house. In other words - if you are lucky you don't even need to have the minimum package!!!
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Re the maloney link...
Yes, the website isn't dated is it?
That was a link from an AV forum. Lazy surfing indeed!!! Sorry!
For what it's worth, I'd be glad to see SM back. We lost a lot of creativity when wee Shaun left.
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Derbyshirebhoy - your story is almost identical to mine. £180 off card 25/7 after having e-mailed and asked what the score was on 17/7. Automated but no human response.
I don't have the patience for people who aren't the decision makers - not their fault - but am in a quandary as I could contact MBNA and tell them it was charged without my permission and as I have an e-mail acknowledging the original question they don't have a leg to stand on if I reject the charge. However - I wouldn't get to see the games.....
My 'record' with them says I called them on such and such a date and they wrote to me etc etc etc - never spoke to them since last year and never got anything in the post...
Total shambles from a shower of amateurs.
Is there anything else in life that you buy where you can't just tell them to eff off and go buy it somewhere else??
Do you have an e-mail contact or address for the organ grinder?
Ta
TB
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Blah blah blah blah blah.
I think what Paul is saying is.
I think we are doing no too bad.
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Boltonbhoy
we will leave manhood sizes for another day this is also a kids blog.
anyway what makes you think both myself and Wc just have a minimum package?
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miketw - fair enough, but diving and simulation would not be my first attack if I were chief exec - it's low hanging fruit. Unlike other leagues, diving is not an issue in this country. The two examples shown on tv last night were of a Hearts player falling as Barr of Falkirk stood up to confront him, and KM being brushed aside in the box by a Kilmarnock player. Hardly serious offences and I can't think of many others in the SPL. Champions League - Amoruso against us, arguably Giggs v us, some from the EPL too. At the very least, Duffield could have done his research on FIFA rules.
Duffield is very ambitious, clearly seeing David Taylor's path as one easily followed. A prediction? Duffield will keep trying the new initiatives in the hope UEFA will come calling. More likely, he will fall on his face when he goes too far or becomes Farry-like.
Now Duffield. How about sectarian singing and chants. Ooops, too thorny.
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Any possibility that Wee Goerdon,is, whilst making us king of the castle,is,just by way of a laugh,trying to help Hibs to put them in their proper place?
Riordan to Hibs,and maybe a couple of loans too?
Never know,maybe we could have a hand in two teams against them.
We could also throw a few loanees Pittodrie way before the "window" closes.
Wouldn't it be fun for all the numpties in the papers to see us as the big rich baddies trying to take the mickey out of Rangers at every turn?
For once in their lives,they may actually be reporting the truth.
Imagine that!!!
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SOAL - methinks you protesteth too much!! :-)
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Boltonbhoy
your right
Love
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miketw10 - The article on the Villa website is from the July 16th.
If you select there news by week, you will see it in the week that has the 16th.
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The enigma Maloney
Not for me I'M afraid
He seems to have attained cult status and can do no wrong in some
fans eyes while other players are
subject to horrendus abuse
What I see is a player that disappears completely from games on
a regular basis and also too lightweight in an already lightweight midfield.
Naka missed Telfer wide right more
than he missed Maloney
Lets spend the money on another area of the team or a pit bull with skill
Ps i would love to see Naisy in the hoops
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celticbhoy72
Welcome I'll be asking Paul for commission soon:>)
Nice to have you aboard. Remember to post as to what happens to you and I'll do similar.
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Thanks for the article Paul
It's this type of info that originally attracted me to CQN.
It's facinating to note that we have paid more on Interest charges (£14.3m) than we've
made from player sales (£13.6m) over this period.
I suspect the Petrov money is
included in the above?
The figures show we have never been that good at asset management.
It's also a stark reminder of the importance of keeping the debt at a managable level.
I have also noted over the last week(s), that you
have mentioned you'd have no objections to Shauns return. Have you heard anything on the grapevine ?
I for one would welcome him back with open arms.
I believe his abscence was one of the main reasons for our poor performances last year.
So come home wee man, there's more to life than the EPL.
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themadmurph
Thanks for that. They do irritate me esp as they don't even have the decency to explain what happened when they advertised the QPR game and then ran no explanation as to why it wasn't shown.
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A good article to finish the close season with before we all get excited tomorrow with the Champions League draw, the new season starting and more new signings :-)
A few days ago Paul alluded to 'the nature of our interest in that player' and how that hadn't changed with the events this week. It's all very interesting but one thing we can be assured of, with Peter Lawwell in charge the best interests of Celtic are in safe hands.
I'm tempted to purchase the new strip with Lawwell 12 on the back!
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dessybhoy
Its a cast iron guarantee that they will follow the Sky template as they're run by ex Sky execs so look to pay a lot more in time.
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thismancraig
Why the number 12? Any particular reason?
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12th man?
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derbyshirebhoy - no consolation for you, but I pay by monthly direct debit and phoned them on Sunday and managed to reduce my payment to £9.99. I would not have been allowed to do this if I had still been within the first twelve months of my contract. If they had an ounce of decency they would reduce all subscribers' payment to £9.99 automatically without having to be asked. I detest any company that treats loyal existing customers worse than new ones.
bryce
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Ulster Celt
Interesting that you've been charged £156.00 whilst others myself included have been charged £180.00 Seems as though trading standards and Watchdog may be the way to go.
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bryce
Couldn't agree more. As I've said they trade on the fact that individuals have little power. I believe they will however respond to numbers hence the reason I'd like to get a feel of how many posters here are customers. Spread that a number of other blogs and there may be sufficient people involved to "make them think
again"
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Kilmarnock manager Jim Jefferies has accused Celtic of being discourteous to Steven Naismith by not following up their £2m offer for the striker.
Celtic agreed verbally to meet Killie's valuation of the player on Monday.
But Jefferies said: "What is a little bit concerning is that we haven't heard anything yet.
"They might be busy or have other things on. But if they ask to speak to him then it's only courtesy to the player that they speak to him quickly."
Celtic had wanted assurances that Naismith wanted a move to Celtic Park before a fee was agreed.
The 21-year-old, who scored 19 goals for Kilmarnock last season, had said perviously that he would prefer to join Rangers, the club he supported as a boy. But Kilmarnock have turned down four bids from Rangers for Naismith and manager Walter Smith has said he has withdrawn his interest in the player.
The Scotland international submitted a written transfer request last week after becoming frustrated with the long-running transfer saga.
Hearts and Hibernian are also believed to have made contact with Kilmarnock about the player.
But it is Celtic who are the latest to have talked to Killie chairman Michael Johnston and the first to agree to meet their £2m valuation.
"I've kept Steven up to date with everything, but it has caused a lot of anxiety for him and it's not fair," said Jefferies.
"Steven intimated that he would be willing to speak to Celtic because there is no point in wasting everybody's time. "And, after giving them permission, we would like to find out what they are doing."
Jefferies is not resigning himself to the SPFA Young Player of the Year joining the Scottish champions if and when they do get round the table.
"His talks with Gordon Strachan will determine whether he goes there or not," said Jefferies.
"They will only find out if they can convince him to go there, or if they like what they see in Steven, if they speak to him.
"The fee has never changed from day one.
"Some people can choose where they want to go when they are out of contract. But, while they are in contract, the two clubs need to agree a fee.
"We have agreed the fee with Celtic, which is why we gave them permission.
"One thing that it has never done is affect his training. That's why I have never had any problems playing him in the first team."
Nice one Jim, lets not mention Rangers 'proffesional' handling of their interest and bids for Naismith...
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Hi fellas,
just want to thank the lad who put the link up for Not the View.
Some great stuff on there.
Also, does anybody else think that in signing naismith we are signing another derek riordan?
Can play left mid or up front? scored 19 goals last season as did riordan for the couple of seasons before he joined.
And neither of them would be first team picks come a CL game against MU, AC Milan or Barca?
Shaun maloney on the other hand most definetely would.
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derbyshirebhoy,
I, too, am a Setantanian.
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My contribution to the Setanta debate.
The other day I phoned them up and told them, as I had just moved house, that I would like to cancel my subscription (I was paying 12.99 per month)
Immediately, they offered to cut my sub for the next three months to 5.99, and to increase it to 9.99 thereafter.
I said yes.
I haven't told the wife yet. Hopefully she won't notice.
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(Reposted as I made a minor language violation.)
A few points.
Firstly, about the initiative proposed with regards diving. Although it may cut it down a little bit, I think in big games, it will happen regardless. Think about it, you are in the European Cup final, your team is getting battered but somehow you are at 0-0 with a few minutes left. You jink into the box, a defender leaves a leg flailing...you can stay upright, fearing a one or two games ban will be imposed post-match, or take the tumble, get a penalty, win the cup for your team, and miss a couple of group games the next year? No-brainer. More-so if you are just a squad player and only in as cover for injuries. You will miss games you were never going to play in anyways.
I think the solution would not just be to punish players individually, but after maybe three offenses, the club itself gets a fine, and higher sanctions as offenses increase. This might seem a little unfair, but if a player repeatedly dives, you also have to blame the manager for not disciplining him internally, or dropping him completely until he gets the picture. Hit the clubs, and they'll soon be giving the players a swift boot up the posterior.
On that note, I heard someone say that WGS will sub a player off if he gets booked for dissent. Any examples of this actually happening if it were true?
On the SM stories, I would not take him back with the current situation. At such an age, you are still dealing with potential. He is not a striker, and would be vying with Nakamura or McGeady for a place. I think McGeady has more potential, so would only bring him back if he is playing second fiddle to Nakamura for a season, Naka moving on, and Maloney then taking his place.
And finally, quick question for Paul67 or any other financial experts. The debt Celtic has is constantly mentioned, it seems from what is being said we are happy to carry some and only periodically clear parts of it away. Considering we are now turning big profits, would it not be prudent simply to wipe the debt should we have transfer money left over come the end of August and forego any transfers in the January window in order to clear the debt?
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Paul, seems like you're catchline is now being recognised in the world of rock n roll:
Jack White brandishes journalists lazy
White Stripes man has a go at hacks
The White Stripes frontman Jack White has brandished journalists lazy.
The frontman said that hacks did not check their facts when writing about his band.
White said: "Journalists are inherently the laziest people on earth. Even in the age of Google, they don't do any work to check what they're writing about."
Speaking about the mistruths that have followed the band, White said: "I'd say 90 per cent of what they get is from the press release. We have fun putting things in there - like in the press release for 'Elephant', somebody inserted a joke about how none of our studio equipment was made after 1963.
"Before you knew it, people thought we wouldn't touch a piece of equipment unless it's 60 years old or something! It gets to the point where you're answering questions based on a joke somebody
made"
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Travelbhoy
I don't have contact details as yet but as and when I do i'll post a follow up.
Like you I don't want to miss the games but I'm getting incensed enough by their lack of coverage pre-season followed by their incompetence re the QPR game that I just might.
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crax
Mr. Skeetzick he done say.. Always have some debt in Play,
It is very good form tae carry Some debt....
it frees your money make money... and mair PROFIT... ye wull get!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin, Awaggin
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Стахановец,
It is a policy throughout Celtic squads from under 11 up to reserve level that any booking for dissent results in an immediate substitution.
I wonder what the youngsters would have made of our first team captain's several bookings for dissent over the last couple of seasons. I wonder if that's why he was taken off a few times?
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Excuse my ignorance, but why is Gordon Smith referred to as Duffield?
p.s. Hope it's a vile insult.
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TomtheTim and Italiabhoy
Thanks for the info. So far on here I have 16 inc myself who subscribe. Now if Edward were to venture into the places I'm afraid to go we could have a true joint initiative. I almost said that OF thing Sorry.
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may67...
Apparently it's his middle name
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Thanks derbyshirebhoy - am going to e mail and ask for MD's contact as you've done and also let them know what I may do if they don't refund the difference.
Current mood - sod 'em - cut it off - and when I calm down I'll join on-line month to month.
They treat us folk like a herd of coos......
TB (ToroBhoy)
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Collie - Cheers for the info, though I would be interested to see how much money we accrued from going into debt, and then taking away the cost of interest payments from that!
TheLeftWinger - I was thinking that myself, Lennon had a few rants last season, maybe as the captain he is forgiven as they have some sort of leeway to have a few words with the ref? Aye, that must be it!
Let's hope that teams are actually pulled up for surrounding the referee in an attempt to influence their decisions, our policy might pay off that way.
On a note with Setanta, I work for those scoundrels Virgin Media, albeit on the tech side. When you guys phone, do you actually phone Setanta or Virgin Media? If it is Virgin Media, I will try and keep an ear open for comments on the situation while at work.
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Kittoch The Setantanian
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hi gang
great article Paul67 on seasons eve
stand by for the spin and bias as Jim Jefferies
words become A BLAST FOR CELTIC
- pathetic and typical especially after Rangers
weeks and weeks of failed signing attempts or even blatant 'tapping up'
see my link
BBC bias
hail hail
yogiessanies
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Cheers benny. No answers to your questions.
Big liam, :-)
A view from, don’t know how much we have to spend this summer. An acceptable level of debt (in my view) would depend on two things:
The cost of that debt, and
The utility the debt can bring.
Not an easy answer, but as a general rule, I would like to see the club move into and out of debt on a regular basis, not trade continually in debt. Debt is good for structural investments, or reengineering the team in times of grave need.
Several annual reports were the source.
McGraininSpain, timely indeed.
Stuart, CL money is absolutely key, though there will be years when it does not go our way. The trend will still be GoD.
Lennondinho18, I would have Shaun in a minute. Hmmm.
TuttiFrutti, England presents a real problem for our ambitions. Agree wholeheartedly on the gap Quinn and Lawwell would leave if the left. Just as well they are not a couple. I think.
Welcome celticbhoy72.
WatchingCartoons, cheers.
Parkheadcumsalford, they cannot afford me.
Collie, Kojo had better cover that bet with a wee side flutter.
Derbyshirebhoy, sure can.
Dubaibhoy, yes I do, actually.
Thanks Glasgowdave. The Petrov money is not included, it came during the most recent year.
Стахановец, I think we should only spend in January if it will improve the team. I would rather keep my powder dry than buy yet more squad players.
TLW, White Stripes know their stuff.
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yogiessannies, cheers.
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RE: the Naismith saga
If Celtic have been given the green light to talk to the lad, is it normally Gordon's job to call Steven Naismioth up and say "Hello son...fancy pulling on the hoops? Gret...You're gonna be playing right midfield every week etc etc once we agree wages"
Or is it down to Peter Lawell to have informal chats with the player and agent??
Never having been behind closed doors when these negotiatons get underway I'm curious?
Maybe it's a bit like buying a used car........
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Ghuys
Looking for info on what channel in the Middle East will be showing Sundays game. Anyone able to help?
Bangkokbhoy
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Gordon Smith has decided he will tackle simulation / diving as his first initiative as SFA supremo.
The most blatant dives are so evident that the ref. should be able to act at the time.
We have all seen instances where a dive is so pathetic that the ref. laughs and tells him to get up without stopping the game.
When the issue is not clear cut the ref will have the option of checking the footage.
This is where the plan has not quite been thought through.
The pictures the referee who will be reviewing will be provided by Setanta.!
I often struggle to recognise who is on the ball when watching Celtic games in the pub as the camera angle is long shot.
Pundits who used to be strikers usually side with the attacking player. Defenders side with the assailant.
Why should a striker have to fight off a defender who is pulling him back?
Why should he attempt to regain his balance when avoiding a lunging tackle?
Why should he risk an injury by waiting for a crunching tackle?
They argue
(A) If a defender is stupid enough to make contact without getting the ball , then the striker is entitled to go down.
(B) If a defender causes you to lose your balance, illegally, and hence impair your chances of keeping control of the ball the striker is entitled to fall over.
(C) If a challenge is so reckless that an injury may result and the player avoids the challenge but loses possession will the ref intervene on his behalf?
Probably not : so they resort to avoidance- finishing with a (dis)graceful fall, hoping to get the award rather than risk the injury.
The initiative from Gordon Smith may be well intentioned but it is a minefield.
Assessing another individuals intent is completely subjective.
Cameras do not pick up everything ( Sky multi angles are often needed to resolve studio debate) what chance when relying on Setanta 'Farscape'
Refs. on the ground can not see everything but they have context.
Retro punishments will not change the outcome of the game and will probably not result in any change in on field behaviour.
The Onlooker
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Neg Anon
Been busy all day but goimng back to last nights thread - for the life of me I cant understand why you come on here every so often looking to bait Paul and noise up the rest of us. What if we all challenged Paul to a debate - how would that work? And anyway is that not we do on a routine daily basis - debate things?
As for "'we're all being ripped off" - how do you make that out? I'm not being ripped off and I don’t know any other Celtic fans who think he or she is being ripped off. If you are being ripped off please give us the details please - just exactly how are you out of pocket?
I used to look forward to your posts until you got stuck on trying to bait Paul.
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Been on the Not the view site, trying to hunt down a match report from my first ever visit to CP. It was 16 years ago and it was my 11th birthday. My uncle was the chairman of a CSC club in Ballymena, N.Ireland. I t brought back a load of memories which thought I would share.
1.Driving into Ballymena, wearing my older brothers Hoops shirt and scarf and a list of what to buy there A. get your own scarf B. 2 programmes, 1 for me and 1 for you.
(also getting a bit of abuse from a few Gers fans in Ballymena, who were also on their way over to watch a game)
2. Getting the boat over: Uncle sits me down in the canteen, with a big plate of Sausage beans and chips. I was delighted for about 2 seconds as the boatsways and my plate of food slides off onto the floor. cue angry uncle having to fork out for another!
3. Landing in stranraer, being amazed at the snake of buses all along the road headign to glasgow.
4.Arriving at CP and the bus parking beside a construction site of some sort and everyone getting stuck into cans of Tennents with women on the side, which tasted pretty good ;-)
5.Getting told by my uncle that we were going into the jungle, coming in under the Floodlights and that no matter what happened I was not to let go of him.
6. Standing in the jungle at the fence with all the other "weans" trying to see the game.
7. Laughing every time I heard someone with glasgow accent cursing, was the funniest thing I ever heard and went on to mimic for about two weeks after.
8.Cheering when Cascarino came on and scored immediately. Then laughing my head off when he get sent off a few mins later for throwing a haymaker.
9. Singing the monty python theme "always look on the bright side of life" when the hearts fans were leavin and singing cheerio, cheerio.
10.sitting on the bus back to the boat, with two programmes, a celtic hat with a bob on top and a scarf the same length as me thinking..that was unbelievable.
match report:
October started well with a memorable 3:1 victory over Hearts. Celtic took an early lead with, of all things, a well worked set piece - Mark McNally unexpectedly appearing at the front post to head in a driven corner. True to form the lead was defended for all of 5 minutes before Robertson robbed Whyte in the box and lobbed Bonner. However, fortune seemed to favour us when we were awarded a penalty right on half-time. Charlie Nicholas slotted the ball into the top corner. Hearts came back stongly in the second half and Celtic were hanging on somewhat when, enter stage left the vast bulk of substitute Tony Cascarino. He was only on the pitch for a few minutes but he certainly left his mark. Almost as soon as he came on Celtic broke down the left. Coyne had the ball, and was in good position for a shot, but he elected to pass to the unmarked Cascarino in the centre. As the ball arrived at his feet he had an empty net to shoot into, Hearts' keeper Smith having advanced to close down Coyne. Incredibly, Cascarino mishit his shot back across the goal. It only just squeezed under the goalie who had desperately dived in an attempt to cover his goal. Worse still, the shot appeared to be going wide until the spin took the ball just inside the post.
Celtic Park went nuts. One of the most risible goals ever scored, from one of the most risible players. But that was nothing compared with what followed. Hearts immediately came back and gained a free kick by the touchline about 20 yards from goal. As the players lined up for the cross, Cascarino suddenly turned round and for no apparent reason punched Craig Levein straight in the mouth. Fair's fair, it was a fine punch, but he did seem a bit short on motive. Levein hadn't even pushed him (in an after match interview Cascarino admitted he didn't know why he did it, Levein hadn't touched him). He was off, and Hearts now had a penalty. Fortunately Bonner did the necessary, making a fine save from Robertson to secure the victory.
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I have a theory that Setanta broadcast the SPL games on a lower bandwidth than 'normal' SKY channels. It is really grainy on my TV and in a long shot you cannot see who is on the ball. If I switch to an EPL game on SKY the difference is noticeable immediately, so it's not my TV.
How the refs intend sorting dives out via replays of what we see ???
There are three modes of watching TV. HD, normal and Setanta.
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Naismith or Maloney?
I would imagine the Maloney situation has stalled Celtic's move for the Killie forward.
There is no room for one of them nevermind two.
Taxi for Jarosik, Miller, Magic and Riordan???
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Saw Naismith last year really close up when Killie played QOS in the cup (you can pick your front-row seat at Palmerston for most games). He was a class above everybody else on the field and scored a cracking winner when he skinned Jim Lauchlin.
I know that is no endorsement of the level he could play at. What struck me was how small and lightweight he was.
Do we need another player like that or do we need a couple of bullies like Jarosik (only kidding)
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Bangkokbhoy,
The game is live on ART Sport 4, available in most pubs.
mjm
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bangkokbhoy:
This may help.
http://liveonsat.com/
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derbyshirebhoy -
I too have sultana tv. Called them up a couple of weeks ago when the ads were discussed on here, and 2 weeks before my current deal ends. The lassie sorted me out in about 5 mins on the monthly £9.99 deal. Will check on the credit card bill when it arrives to make sure they only take that off, and not the annual though!
bankokbhoy -
try ART. There is a pub back here I know where the landlord put that in, and he gets quite a few Scottish games as well as the English ones.
Cylru
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The quality of the picture from Setanta is terrible. I'll be interested to see if they broadcast EPL games in the same way the do SPL games.
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Pual,
Naismith or Maloney...is it the case of... one or another or will we have both?
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Mcgraininspain
Good work on the Guardian blog today, well done for having the patience, as I would say 25% of the posts if placed on here would read
'this post has been most definetely removed by the author'
Some real nasty so-an-so's venting there every day.
Keep up the good fight
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A reminder that the draw for the 3rd qualifying round of the Champions League is 11am tomorrow. Clubs involved are:
Seeded teams:
Liverpool
Arsenal
Valencia
Sevilla
Benfica
Ajax
Werder Bremen
Celtic
Zaglebie Lubin or Steaua Bucuresti
Lazio
Rangers or FK Zeta
Pyunik or Shakhtar Donetsk
Sheriff or Besiktas
Anderlecht
Dynamo Kiev
Tampere United or Levski Sofia
Unseeded teams:
Sparta Prague
Fenerbahce
AEK Athens
Dinamo Bucuresti
MSK Zilina or SK Slavia Prague
Astana or Rosenborg
Spartak Moscow
FK Crvena Zvezda or Levadia Tallinn
FC Copenhagen or Beitar Jerusalem
Toulouse
NK Domzale or Dinamo Zagreb
Genk or FK Sarajevo
Debreceni or IF Elfsborg
FC Zurich
FK Ventspils or FC Salzburg
FH Hafnarfjördur or FC BATE Borisov
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Derbyshirebhoy - I subscibe to Setanta here in the USA through DirectTv (satellite), although its cheaper than in the UK - less than $20/month.
Unfortunately NO Celtic games are broadcast live to homeowners, due to some agreement involving the North American CSC (!!!) they are only allowed to be shown in official CSCs or bars that subscibe for that service, (I think SanFranTic explained this in detail a year or so ago).
So if you live far out of town or have no CSCs available then you need to wait until the following Tues. or Wed. to see the games.
I of course rely on CQN for "live" commentry of matches.
There used to be a bar in Portland called Kells which showed the games live, but this has ceased after the Tim behind the bar left their employment.
Gone are the days of driving 30 miles through the snow and ice at 3 in the morning to see the Tic - when we won it was worth it!
Maybe SanFranTic can re-visit the reasoning behind the NAFCSC involvement with Setanta for the benefit of other exiles (if my memory's correct - if not apologies to SanFran)
Regards
Oregonbhoy
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abu dhabi bhoy and ...em...cyrillic bhoy
Thanks for the info and help
looking forward to it as haven't seen the new team yet!!
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Maloney moving back to us for effectively nothing and signing a 5 year deal at the wages he was offered the last time. Then Yes. Anything else then no. If Kilmarnock want 2m for Naismith then I think it´s a mistake. They need the money badly. They need bailed out. We should string Killie along until the end and then tell them politely that we are not interested. Put the minions like Killie and Rangers in their place.We dont need the lad and he´s already stated that he wont sit on the bench at CP. Errrrrrmmmm I dont think so. Losing Riordhan would be a mistake imho (if their is a personality clash between him and WGS?) If so then WGS should punt him for a nominal fee.
I watched the Parma friendly and I have to say that I am really looking forward to the new season with only two strands of fear. Cover for full backs and a group of forwards who are not firing at all at the moment.
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Kittoch
You're noted
justnipped
Presume you're no 18 of notable Setanta subscribers
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Does anybody understand the Champs League draw tomorrow ?
I can follow it when you have a list of seeded and unseeded teams OK, but where I get confused is the draw being taken before the 2nd round is finished.
So Celtic cannot be drawn against Zeta because we cannot be drawn against a team who are playing one from our own association.
And we cannot be drawn against a team who are playing against a team who would be seeded in the 3rd Round ?? eg. Besiktas opponents
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I´m a Saint Auntie subscriber anaw.
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curly
Noted you as no 19. Amazing that in just a few hours. How many more out there
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awe naw
In my mood for Setanta your moniker says it all. Welcome no 20
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While we're all awaiting, some eagerly, the Taxi for various players to leave Celtic park, is there anyone else who'd like to see JJ playing just once - just ONCE in the middle behind Brown and Donatti.
Forget about his laid back style or percieved attitude problem, wasn't this where he was playing his best football for other teams?
and wasn't he MOM when played there initially?
Maybe the "attitude" is due to being played all over the park, as for playing him in front of Big Mick and A.N.Other there were games last season where he was one of our best defenders.
For what it's worth this is also where Kojo or Collie cryptically hinted was where he would be played - Lenny's old position.
Tin hat now on
Oregonbhoy
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Just put Real radio on and all the talk is around Maloney.
Is everyone adding 2 and 2 and making 5????
Is there any official word from either Celtic or Maloney himself that this is a real goer?
If Carlsberg did footy transfers they sure as heck wouldn't do them like Maloney or Naismith's!
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derbyshirebhoy: I am a Setanta subscriber. I did get it for two years for free up til this season when I cancelled last time.
Gordon_j: OK you've explained the draw, but it's not fair we cannot draw a unseeded team because the draw is done before the 2nd round is completed. Saying that wmaybe we should just play what's put in front of us.
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James thanks for that info
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James,
I hope that we DONT punt JJ, TG, Kenny Miller, Bobo Balde, Majiec Zurawski or Riordhan. I still belive that they will come good.
Awe Naw... the eternal optimist :-)
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Testing Testing 123
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Maloney move talk rubbished
Click to learn more...
SHAUN MALONEY will not be returning to Celtic, according to his agent.
The Scotland international moved to Aston Villa six months ago but speculation abounded over the weekend that he could be on his way back to Parkhead.
Celtic manager Gordon Strachan refused to rule out a move for Maloney saying: "It would be unfair of me to talk about that - he's signed to another club."
However, Maloney's advisor John Halliwell said: "All this talk about Shaun being unhappy is news to me but there's nothing in it.
"There is always talk about Shaun because he is a talented player but this is just completely made up. He's been working so hard to get fit because he's so desperate to make an impact in the Premiership.
Maloney link
Click to learn more...
SHAUN Maloney is reported to be eyeing a return to Celtic just six months after leaving the club to team up with former Parkhead manager Martin O'Neill at Aston Villa.
The Scotland international has started only five matches since moving to the Birmingham club for £1 million in January, and is believed to have told friends he is keen to return to the club where he made his name.
If Celtic manager Gordon Strachan was interested in bringing the player back up north, he would be likely to face competition from Sunderland manager Roy Keane.
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I guess all you guys who are with Setanta are not with Virgin media then.
I was previously with Telewest who were taken over by VM. My monthly bill showed that I (my wife actually)paid £15 monthly for Setanta in addition to Sky Sports and the XL package previously mentioned today.
I enquired of VM tonight and was told that the £15 would not now be collected from Mrs EDB so that's pretty decent.
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my only concern about signing maloney and or naysmith , is that the squad and indeed the likely first team are very inexperienced at the top level.
only artur, naka and jvoh have significant experience at the top level .....
gravesen,jarosik hartley and pressley were all signed with their experience as a valuable asset, however none look likely to play every week as a starter....
i would like to see us adding some experience with an unquenchable will to win , where's the next mjallby or sutton hiding ?
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Hello Paul67 and all,
Long,long time lurker and used to post under hooptastic.Unfortunately it looks as though somebody else is now using it!So i have set up this new one.
Anyway down to business:
Can we expect the wee man and naismith or is it one or the other?
I noticed in previous posts our involvement in naismith could be for other reasons,is this still the case or are we genuine.
Cheers
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Paul67
Congratulations for finally getting it right, cash is king!
Interesting set of figures that you have generated, the thing for me is the fact that we have managed to support a £50mill net investment in the playing staff over the seven years.
That is £9mill pa of spending and £2mill pa of selling for a net spend of £7mill pa. the only issue I have with this is timing, the spending was front loaded and the selling was 50% down to MV.
No wonder BQ got fed up with MON. With figures like that I might have even agreed with the "Debt nutter".
However all of that is in the past and it is the future that we should be worried about. interesting to know who gave you the figures? £80 mill is some figure, I was thinking more of £75mill+ as what we could expect.
The one thing though regarding your projection is that if it is correct we will have generated £15mill+ this year in cash from operations on top of a small player surlpus.
£80mill T/O and £25mill in football wages = Interesting numbers.
However we still have much to do.
WGS / PL have been a bit hit and miss this summer considering the funds available.
WGS = Needs to up his game, he is currently acting like a fox in a henhouse.
No CL and 2007/08 T/O will be less than £70mill.
No CL and WGS will not recover. Harsh coming from me who is a fan but ...
No Cl and the TFOD will have a chance to recover.
Defence = Need to move away from the notion that four journeymen and a coaching manual can get the job done.
Regarding our new captain I feel that he has fallen into the job due to a lack of alternatives. A bit of a failing on the part of management as succession is an integral part of the job.
On the plus side I feel that although he is limited and has the heading ability of an old NL he has improved considerably over the past 2 years.
On the downside his partners at CB have had a survival rate slightly worse than the navigators who flew with GB (88-92) in WW2. Something wrong somewhere.
Refuseniks = Unfortunate that such a situation should develop but it is a lesson in the benefits of asset management.
29-31 and a year on the sidelines drawing your inflated wages is not to bad if it helps your negotiating position. Aged 23-25 and the situation is slightly different.
Delayed spend = Waiting until the CL money has been captured looks too much of a gamble for me.
Surely the people in charge can't have such short memories that the AMB debacle has been forgotten about.
I would like to see some structure in our efforts regarding team building. I would be happy with a £5mill net spend once we have the team on an even keel.
Consequently heart still in mouth.
Tomorrow will tell us a lot.
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Paul
Re. da Newcastel Punt...
Da Boss and Kojo took in dat friendly game,
Kojo was RAVIN', aboot how impressed he wiz ,wi' Newcastel... awe da way Hame!
Da Boss goat fed up wi' his Haverin's,
told him tae put up, or shut up wi' his noisy, Ravins'!
So da BET wiz made... an' it is quite a... BIG YIN!,
Da Boss says,
"Kojo,ye should get wit' it...or, get religion!....
Hooevvvvah,Ah think Ah've goat masel' a Pidgeon!"
A wee snippet frae a day in da life o' a... Mug!
But, da question remains... Which Wan...
Wull be left Haudin' da Can?
"Wull da Wally Wan ... please staun' up?"
Ah know which wan wull be da stonewall, Winnah....says dis wee pup!
collie
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Bored or what:
Vodjvodina won 2-0 in their UEFA Cup game tooday.
Larssons team Helsingsborg won 9-0
A Team called Mjallby beat IFK Gothenburg in the Swedish Cup
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Derbyshirebhoy - Just asked my accountant(the wife)we actually pay $15/mth for Setanta - around GBP7.
Can watch EPL, La Liga, Serie A, French and German football live (?) as well as all the Rugby you like, they also broadcast MLS which is a good cure for insomnia
No CELTIC
Setanta are of course obsessed with Manure UTD, what might be of interest to readers here is the American perception and presentation of the Celtic support, they are the Bhoys who really show what Celtic are all about, if our team could just take these show games in the USA seriously, stop treating them as a training exercise - hammer their so called MLS select, then there would be a HUGE impact in the market here for Celtic - Americans love winners they do not play friendlies - remember Tiger Woods would not even speak to the media after his last round at the open - his dissapointment at not winning?
Clear blue skies and sunny in the Pacific North West - 90 degrees today.
Oregonbhoy
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Business was not invented by Adam Smith or any other scotsman or woman for that matter. There was no divine right that Rangers would always run their football club better than ours..........But it was a long time coming, turning the tables!!! Thank you Fergus McCann and all those who put their money in their pockets, all 10,000 of you.
The duality of on the field success, thanks for those clips big liam, and successful, purposeful management, as referred to in your article Paul fills me with mucha esperanza.
I'm not sure how the new season will go achievement wise, as a new style of play needs to be tested out, but we are in pole popsition.
Just two words to the Bully Boys
" Catch up "
derbyshirebhoy ; Glad to hear you weren´t affected during the floods down south. Keep telling it to Setanta!
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James (Oregonbhoy)
An interesting point about Jiri Jarosik. The other night he played on the right of a midfield of himself, Gary Caldwell, Tommy G and Deeks.
He is not effective there. Was replaced late on by Jim O'Brien.
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I see the Big Yin is on board.
Billy Connolly is Patron of the Celtic Foundation
http://www.celticfc.net/news/
stories/news_020807172407.aspx
There's a link to the press conference also(not seen it, at work, but I bet there's a laff or two)
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I think it will be interesting to see if we put anyone out on loan again this year, not just to lower leagues but to other premier league teams.
We sent out Rocco Quinn, though by all accounts he failed to shine and noone has shown an interest. We sent out O'Brien who may well attract some interest for a couple of hundred thousand. Morton want to sign McGowan permanently, and some other youngsters no doubt gained some valuable experience.
However, as mentioned before, we should be aiming to put these players into SPL or Championship teams. This is where, if good performances occur, then money can be made if they are not first-team quality. The other benefit of them playing in the SPL is they will not be able to play against us during the season!
Anyone know if we have plans to, or have loaned anyone out so far for the forthcoming season?
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justnipped,
I agree! It seems crazy to have the draw before the second round is finished. But we will see who we get and take it from there.
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Loans?
Scott Cuthbert looks to be going to St.Mirren
What i'd like to see is a page on the Celtic website keeping us up to date with the young boys out on loan. Like where they are and if they are getting first team games, player of the month awards, goals scored etc.
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On the Setanta debate.
I've been trying on and off for three days to get through to them on the phone. Today I got a promotional e-mail offering the £9.99 deal. So I replied to them:
"Thanks for the e-mail. £9.99 a month is a good deal - so why am I as a customer of three eyars standing paying £15 per month?? I assume you will now switch me to the deal you have just offered to me?
"I look forward to my monthly payments being reduced forthwith."
Let's see if I get a reply.
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justnipped
Perhaps I picked you up incorrectly earlier and if I have done then I apologise but we can only be drawn against an unseeded team.
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bangkokbhoy:
Hope that one is true, as St. Mirren are going to be doing a lot of defending next year, and where better to handle pressure but in a relegation dogfight. I think some of the other 'senior' reserve players need to be getting out there, as they are unlikely to be handed first team opportunities with the size of first team squad we currently have.
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El Diego Bhoy: We can only be drawn against an unseeded team, but the number of unseeded teams we can meet is reduced as some of them are playing seeded (for the 3rd round) teams in the 2nd Round.
The draw tomorrow will be us against a straight unseeded team or the winners of a 2nd round game.
I think I understand it now.
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justnippedootfuraminute:
It is not that the unseeded teams we can face our reduced, that amount remains the same. However, the quality of team we can face might be weaker than it should be, for example Dinamo Zagreb and NK Domzale are both teams with low coefficients, so no matter who wins, they will be unseeded for round three.
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justnipped
You may well now have it. As an example if Catherine Zeta Jones (unseeded hmmmm) beat the seeded numpties they have been drawn against then they take the place of the seeded numpties.
A bit illogical but hardly a surprise with UEFA.
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Paul67,
Maloney to replace Riordan and Naismith to replace Miller. Both will be sold.
Add a centre half and full back before qualifiers.
Any more business after that would depend on sale of Tommy G and Jiri and CL qualification.
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Agreed Cyrillic Bhoy?
St Mirren will be a good place to serve his 'time'. Another point is that Gordon seems to have good relationships with many of the SPL managers(John Hughes, John Collins, Gus McPherson, etc) and this could help get some of the lads into other teams, such as Charlie Grant, Simon Ferry, Ryan Conroy etc
Can anyone provide a list of the 'senior' reserves? Have any reserves been released?
And are most of the U-19 team from last year still eligible this year?
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I'm another frustrated Setanta customer, becoming more like Satanic Sports.
Currently on £15 a month and getting peeved at all the adverts for £9.99. Think I'll cancel and watch in the pub!!
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James:
I totally agree with you about Celtic not taking the friendlies in the US seriously. And it is noticed by the Americans. Wallbangers have dropped advertising Celtic after the MLS game. Shame, really.
Setanta have the sole rights to broadcast live SPL matches in USA and Canada which they sell on to NAFCSC and Rangers counterpart. The NAFCSC is funded by the fees they charge the CSCs.
DublinBhoy
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El Diego - Thanks, personally I feel for the guy, played out of position except for one game (MOM) Knowing your going to be subbed, wouldn't that affect YOUR performance?
Yet the most critical supporters in the world tear strips off the player.
On TG - I'm not sure whats going to happen there, a guy who was renowned for his positional sense, a rock in midfield, a motivator, midfield dynamo, etc, etc - now known as a "headless chicken" - do Celtic employ motivational Psychologists?
Maybe make him Captain for one game - see what happens :-)
Regards
Oregonbhoy
Really got to get this blog thing sorted.
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And now I get a message saying all our agents are busy and that i should call back then they hang up
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think i'll pretend to be a new customer
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test
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I suppose on the issue of loaning youngsters out, has there ever been such a scenario in the past that our reserves have been so in demand by other top-flight teams? Are we really so far ahead in this category, save perhaps Hibs, who have the opportunity to play those players right away?
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Dublinbhoy - Agreed, I sat watching getting more dpressed by the minute as Celtic sauntered around, to be outshot 12-1 (1st half) by a composite team from a nonentity football league was absolutely unacceptable, the US market is difficult enough to crack (refer Man U.) without being seen as cannon fodder and believe me the MLS made lot's of mileage on the result.
As I said the only good thing was the Celtic support.
Oregonbhoy
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James
I'm also a James but I enjoyed your title of Oregonbhoy.
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When Maloney is was extremly angry and thought his perfidy was worse than Liam Millar's because we stuck by him while he recovered from a serious knee injury.
After the game on Sunday I was was in the pub chatting about Celtic. My mate said "can you imagine the midfield with Naka, Brown, Donati and Maloney?"
"Wow", was my response.
This was before I'd heard a whiff of any rumours (Paul67 has done nothing to discourage them so I assuming there may be some truth in the matter).
I was still unconvinced about taking him back until I clicked on the link someone posted above saying he was staying at Villa.
My heart sank.
Now I know how I'd feel if he returned.
Naka, Brown, Donati, Maloney.
Mmmmmmmmmmm............
p.s. Awe Naw - totally disagree. When it comes to messing people around I think of Rangers. Let's be professional about this. We are Celtic, after all.
All the best.
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This is gonnae be good!
misstinytim appears to be entering the site.
As if it's no bad enough wae her da. Mind you she's much better looking!
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Paul
Per da Possible Possibilitee... oaf da return o' da Prodigal...
Listen tae dis...it wiz said by Mr. Skeetzik...
OOR FINANCIAL ORACLE!
Dis is how it woiks in da USED Car Biz...
As soon as,Ye drive off da Lot...noo, da price dat ye paid, is no longer whit it wiz!
A guid rule o' Thumb wid be Fifty percent aff....
Dat's dey oaffer ye'll get,
if ye decide tae tak it back!...
An'if ye think dat ye'll get mair...
den... DINNA MAK ME LAFF!
In Soccer da same Bizness Principal, applies..
So please believe dis...for ah dinna tell lies!
Da Player who wants tae return,tae his former team....Wi' his, CAP IN HIS HAND..
Wull find Pierre's offer, wull onlee, be 5 Hundred Grand!
Nae maitter hoo Mon...protesteth an' grumbles...
In gettin' rid o' an Unhappy Player...??
Dat's hoo Da Cookie Crumbles!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Sirius Satellite Radio and the Celtic Football Club have partnered up to make Sirius the exclusive satellite radio provider of Celtic Football Club.
Starting Sunday, August 5th, Sirius will broadcast every Celtic Premier League game live, including the celebrated matches against their historic rivals, the Rangers. The start date coincides with the with Celtic vs Kilmarnock match to air at 9am ET.
All games, which will feature the official Celtic FC broadcast, will air on Sirius channel 126. Other non-Premier League Celtic matches might also get added to the schedule.
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1. tried 08712003322 for it to cut me off
2. pretended to be a new customer but they're clever and have outsourced the new account to "mgt" who can only deal with new accounts. and suggested i use the email address:
"customerservices@mgtplc.com"
3. but i'm cleverer than them so I used the alternate number on my original letter:
08700 50 69 80
and got through straight away
Result have just been transferred to the £9.99 package with no connection fee. Not as good as the £5.99 but wasn't going to move home to get the better deal
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Hi Paul and everyone
Long time reader of this excellent site. I am also the winner of the CQN BBC Predictor league 2006-07. Sadly the BBC are not running the predictor this year. However, I have found another at www.splforum.com/PredictionLeague
I hope you don't mind but I've set up a CQN minileague. If any of you wish to join, register (it's free) and send me a message through the site and I will add you.
Let the battle commence!
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I was drawn in by a cry of "Let battle commence!"
I'd got my armour on and everything :)
I've been having a confusing day with Jim Jeffries saying that we've had a bid accepted for Naismith and apparently Celtic saying we still haven't bid.
Anyone with an update on that situation?
The above article made good reading. Hopefully some departures will prompt the signings of some defenders.
Have we bid for Mendy yet?
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WG - sounds like a good bit of business to me. I like Deek, but he clearly has issues off the park and that is effecting him.
So, Riordan and Miller for Maloney and Naismith.....big thumbs up from me, if we can get the deals done.
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BangkokBhoy
Of last years under 19's only Paul Caddis and Mark Millar are not eligible to play this season.
Not sure how the current crop will fare after the 5-0 demolition they suffered in the youth cup final last year. I was told some of the coaching staff thought some of the players would struggle to recover psychologically from that defeat.
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Gerry, my money is on one only, and you do not need to ask……
Welcome back CelticSt, see above.
Madmitch, I do the cash thing this time every year.
Collie, I know the boss can afford a big yin, and I hope he collects, but a sure as the son rises in the east, the English title does not go to the North East.
WGS, could be.
GM, to quote a well informed source last week, Maloney would be “not quite a WOW, but a very interesting signing”. Hmmm.
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I like the sound of that
A "Hmmmm" signing.
It could catch on.
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WGS,
Maloney for Riordan & Naismith for Miller?
Yes, please...
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Paul
As ye kin see from da timbre o' ma current transmissions....
Ah am jist markin' time... fur ders no movement afoot or ahorse.... with which tae include in ma submissions!
Da day it is over.... ne'er a twitch frae da ""'VINE"...
Let's hope dat mebbe, da morra...
we kin open da wine!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Gordon_J
Interesting!!! Somehow one could be consoled if they were only efficient in robbing us blind. Let's know how you get on. That's 21 of us so far.
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derby
me too, as you correctly deduced earlier have`t sorted out my reduced subscription as too busy at the moment watching celtic tv , blogging etc
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Martybhoy79
Cheers for that. Does that mean they don't have high hopes for the U-19's this year?
Do you know if their are any new recruits, or even who the coaching staff are keen on from the team?
Were we blessed with a 'good crop' a year or two a go(Cuthbert, O'Dea, etc) and if so, who found them all?
Don't expect you to answer all these q's but it'd be disappointing if our quality of youngsters coming through was dropping.(Saying that, the under 19's were close to a double themselves last year so they can't be that bad!)
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David
Hi there. That's 22 of us now in the SOS club. Just why should it be right for Setanta to publicly discriminate against existing customers?
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David
Just to clarify on that. How have you dealt with your existing situation? Did the new team simply accept the transfer of your existing account to the new terms?
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Had a wee peek at Villa's website due to all the Maloney talk.
He is on the welcome page as one of selected players modeling the new strip.
Then on 'his' page there are three Celtic goals highlighted that can be viewed on video.
Strangest thing is they have both John Carew and Marlon Harewood as number 10 on the squad list. Are they going to try and sneek both of them on to the park as no. 10 without the ref noticing?
Will Rangers try the same trick with lookalikes Novo and Sebo? they could call them Nobo.
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derbyshirebhoy - still well peed off with that Closed Shop Media outfit...
I did wonder if by not giving existing customers the opportunity to cancel their subs (by ignoring several requests to cancel) that Setanta are acting illegaly. Its clear that this is a deliberate act otherwise everyone would cancel each year and take a new sub.(or cancel as Mr and take out as Mrs)
BA got £250 mill for ripping off its customers...
Perhaps I just shouldn't think!
TB
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On a sadder note its being reported on other sites that Jean Stein wife of Jock died today.
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James:
I know the excuse of it just being a training match is bandied about but if for no other reason than to sell shirts, keep the supporters here in the US happy and win the cup that was going the club, manager and players should have made the effort. Not so.
I personally was crowing about Celtic to anyone that would listen and had to go into hiding for a couple of weeks after that result! I very much doubt if Celtic sold 1 more shirt here after the US debacle.
One good thing though...seeing Celtic on ESPN in HD! Wow! It made FSCs Chicago Fire transmission look amatuerish. I wont get into Setantas efforts for the CSCs, they've been getting a hammering on here already today.
DublinBhoy
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to lighten up the mood this is something I posted earlier but it got lost in cyberspace again which seems to happen to my first post of the night.
A Scotch and Wry classic
Ricky Fulton on Signing Policies
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Collie, Mollie is more a vintage wine than a second hand banger. He is also worth more to Martin than the £1m he paid for him, even if he sits on the bench. It will be interesting to see how this one plays out.
Yes, tomorrow might see things moving.
David, well done, I have had trouble getting hold of them.
Welcome misstinytim and congrats on your excellent management skills. God luck for the new season.
CelticSephiroth, Mendy is “one of the options we are looking at”.
GL2, I had not heard, very sad news if this is the case.
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greenlion2 - sad news of Mrs Stein. I did wonder what she thought on her frst date when she found out Jocks surname rhymed with her first...
It does make you wonder why you get so wound up about some numpties in Shetanta....
TB
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Re Setanta,
my yearly contract was coming up for renewal and they gave me a call last week to ask if I was renewing, the guy said my details where out of date (credit card had expired).
I told him yes, I was going to renew only if I get the £9.99 deal......
the guy said "Aye you will".
Last year I got it for £140 for the year.
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At present have WAAAAAY to much time on my hands, so in my boredom have created a Celtic video using Windows Movie maker. Tell me what you think
A Grand Old Team
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gerry - you're the first person to have been contacted about renewing - surprise surprise -they couldn't get their money without doing so....
TB
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We have had it now....Robb Mclean thinks we are going to win the league.....
Rangers will hope their reluctance to splash the cash in Scotland midfielder Scott Brown's direction doesn't cost them a serious Clydesdale Bank Premier League title challenge this season.
It wasn't just that manager Walter Smith didn't get his hands on the SPL's rising star. But Rangers lost out to Celtic in the bidding battle for Hibs' prize asset and the dynamic Brown promises to be a big player for the champions in their defence of Scottish football's top trophy.
Gordon Strachan is bidding to be the first Celtic manager since Jock Stein to win three successive championships and could be eternally grateful that his club's bean counters were able to stretch to meet £4.4 million Brown's wage demands while Rangers chairman Sir David Murray refused to shatter the players' pay structure at Ibrox.
Smith has certainly beefed up the Rangers squad with bulky acquisitions like Jean-Claude Darcheville, Lee McCulloch and Carlos Cuellar but Strachan has made significant summer signings as well, apart from Brown, in Massimo Donati and Scott McDonald.
And you have to remember the yawning gap that's opened up between the Old Firm pair over the last couple of seasons. The catch-up operation for Rangers is massive.
They struggled to nail down SPL second place last time around, so poor were their early-season results under Paul Le Guen's management, but they're unlikely to face a similar challenge for runners-up spot in the forthcoming campaign.
The rehabilitation of Rangers should be sufficient to ensure that Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs and Kilmarnock can't compete for a place in the Champions League qualifiers but there must be serious doubts about Smith's reassembled side being good enough to overhaul Celtic.
I reckon the champions will get a much tougher challenge from Rangers than they've had since Strachan took the reins -- not much to beat, you might say -- but I fully expect Celtic to wrap up a historic hat-trick.
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yoshimisgreen, class.
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Paul
Guy who sits behind me in the north stand is convinced celtic will be seeded 42 and behind rankers in 2 years if we don't finish in the last 16 again this year . is this the case ?
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Travelbhoy
I'm quite certain what they are doing is iffy with discrimination in the treatment of customers with the same problem being evident. What's been reported here illustrates that and I'm quite certain CQNr's will provide the evidence if asked.
It may not be illegal but its certainly immoral. A good dose of Trading Standards and Watchdog may help to sort them out.
For the moment I'm toying with how to go on this with the least disruption to my viewing of the Celts.
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Can you believe that Craig Brown picked a hun-free Dream Team which includes THREE Celtic players.
Fair play to him.
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TravelBohy,
As I said last year they took £180 of me at the beginning, so I called them and got them down to £140 (some folk got a even better deal from them).
If you've signed up for the year and it's not up yet you'll probably have to wait till you're year is up. (have you sent them a email?)
Keep trying and you'll get the £9.99 deal.
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Paul 67,
Thank you, Its good to know that out of boredom comes something worth bothering with
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Bhoycy:
Artmedia will haunt us for a few years with regards our co-efficients. Unless we put up a similar showing to last year, we will drop places. Assuming we match last years, we will likely drop outside the top 30, and be in Pot 3 again at best, and depending on what teams qualify and have a good year this year, Pot 4.
To stop this from happening we need to win more games in the group and progress further than the last 16. Either that, or narrowly slide nito the UEFA Cup and go on a mammoth run in that.
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Bhoycy, it is too early to say where Celtic will be seeded in 2 years time, but all other things being equal, we will be behind Rangers.
Our Seville season is about to drop off, while we have our Artmedia season. Rangers had a good Uefa run last season and got to the last 16 in the CL the season before.
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BangkokBhoy,
I'm afraid I don't know the answers to most of those.
You would think having almost your full team still eligible to play would make them stronger.
Sheridan is still eligible so I'd imagine he'll be their star player if he's playing. Kevin Cawley was getting a few games for the reserves at the end of last season and getting good reviews so he could be one to watch. I know they signed a young Bulgarian called Pavlov and he could feature (I think he's only 17).
They were very close to the double indeed but kind of lost their way when Willie McStay left to take over the reserves, hopefully they'll have learned from their disappointments.
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derbyshirebhoy/gerry - as I wont be getting to CP much next season this will be the main way for me to see the Celts.
Setanta have us all grabbed by the Emotional Jewels and none of us are going any place soon...
I'll keep on at them (2 or 3 e-mails so far - but they were 'nice' ones) but I have decided lifes too short to risk missing out on something I love.
TB
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yoshi
Yer woik ah Adora!......
Take a bow!... dinna be Shy!
....an' here's a Doffa o' ma wee doggie, Fedora!
Talent? Ye goat it...an' ah mean loatit!
Keep it comin', wi dat Music an' Slo Mo???
It's Unusual! It's Unique!...
It is Defo, quite Diffo!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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TravalBhoy,
are you a member of any other Celtic message boards?
If so what board and what's you're user name?
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Bhoycy
For this coming season we are ranked 24th...with a coefficient of 62.064
We will lose the Uefa cup run at the end of this season (23.4335) from that score. Last season we earned 13.2275 from the CL run...so little doubt we will drop down.
Next season, we will lose a further 15.4335 from that coefficient, so dropping places is going to happen.
Rangers will lose a 4.4335 off of their score (47.064) at the end of this season and a further 6.4335 at the end of next season. So, more than likely they will move up.
If Rangers and Celtic were to lose the remainder of their games in Europe this season (so they go out in this Qualifying round and we go out in the next qualifying round), they would be ranked higher than us. We need a good run to keep up there.
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Any news on Naismith or Maloney yet ?
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Hi Derbyshirebhoy,
been with setanta from the beginning and called them on Tuesday to switch to the £9.99 deal(was on £15/month before) and they swapped it no problem. It would seem that not all their operators are working from the same hymn sheet!
Good luck,
Hail! Hail!
SC
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£9.99 . Is this with Celtic TV thrown in ?
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paul67
i touched on this before, but would fernabache's decision on whether to play appiah in the qualifiers be a realistic indication of our chances of signing him i.e. if he is left out he would deffo be moveing somewhere, as alluded to our offer is still on the table i believe?
is anyone else surprised at the lack of interest in gravesen/jarosik?
i thought we would have little problem punting them to a premiership side, both seem right up allardyce's street
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Re Setanta
There seems to be a difference if you pay up front as opposed to paying monthly. Has anyone who paid up front been successful in switching to the new deal? I emailed customer services over 2 weeks ago and have never had a reply. I'm totally scunnered with them.
LGS
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Estadio
In view of the likely return to Paradise of the one and only Shaun Maloney I've no doubt that you'll have pointed out to your errant grandsons that it was inevitable as soon as he realised what a "grand old team to play for"actually looks like. Sorry lads as you seem very well brought up otherwise but it ain't Villa as Grandad will never tire of telling you.
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gerry - no - just this one.
TB
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Collie
Wow, apreciation from the rhyming dug. Thank you, much apreciated.
I would be happy to do another, just tell me what moments in Celtic's past you require, and what song, If I can find a video and the song or peice of music then Il try and knock one together.
That one took about an hour and half, but was only my second atempt. Im used to the softwear now.
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yoshimisgreen good video....I will show my lack of class whats the tune?
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antsman - I'm not surprised by the lack of interest now for JJ/TG. But would be confident they'd move late August when the weaker clubs (Reading haven't had much transfer success) get a bit panicky.
These 2 maybe go to show why WGS is after the likes of Naismith - not proven at CL level - but at least proven at SPL (bread and butter) level.
TB
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Greenlion2,
The tune is pachelbel's canon.
Seemed to suit the events
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prophetofdoombhoy
Murky wasters at Setanta. Perhaps there's an incentive scheme re renewals. Still I'm confident of enough evidence so far that they'll come round. If not I'd settle for the time being with delayed transmission on Channel 67 where at least the money will go to Celtic. First I have to get my VISA peopke to dispute the charge.
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Re Setanta
I've been with them from day one as well and paid annually each year. I got a call on Monday evening from Setanta to inform me I've not paid for last year’s subscription as my credit card had expired!
The guy on the phone told me this years sub has went down by £60.
I used to pay £180 annually, but the reduction of £60 brings it down to the equivalent of £9.99 p/m.
As for last years sub...........
Anyway Message for GS if yer reading this (cos I’ve heard he does):
Forget Naismith – we have McDonald & Riordan who could fight it out as a back up striker/guy coming in from the left.
OOT – AV, Elvis, TG, JJ & KM
IN - SM, 2 x Full Backs & a guy who can score some goals.
There ye go – EASY !
BAZ67 – CQN Manager of the Year 2008
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lynnsgrensocks
Your story mirrors mine. A bit of collective acton may pay dividends next time.
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Yoshi
Na....ye deserved it,pally...
Noo if ye could rummle up da, ANVIL CHORUS...from Il Travatore...dat wull soitenly no BORE US!
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An' Mate it, wi' da Famous 6-2 Debacle...when we gied da G.A. a thumpin'...dat wid be sumptin'!...
an' it wid gie me a wee Cackle!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Collie,
Give me a while to find the required clips and music on the net, download them with my fragile net, and then knock it togetehr
Will post it on here once I have maanged it
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does anyone know if you can get a season review on dvd that relates to the centenary year?
Ulster-Celt
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Antsman,
I was surprised that Birmingham haven't shown any interest in Jarosik - he almost kept them up single-handedly the season they got relegated.
Tommy G looks more of a worry to me. I reckon he has blotted his reputation big time and we may have problems finding a mug to buy him and pay his inflated wages.
Yoshimisgreen - excellent video. I don't believe in God or G.O.D. but I found it spiritually uplifting.
For all the times I have watched the Lisbon goals, I never really noticed before how many men we have in the penalty box for both goals - but particularly when big TG crashes in the equalizer. A different time, a different game...
Paul - any chance that Bobo might be part of the Maloney negotiations if MON needs a face saver?
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Baz
Seems as though I've been unlucky to be due renewal just before my card ran out. What a shower they are!
Tired now. It's past my bedtime in France so goodnight to everyone
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yoshi
Gae tae http://danshep.net...( if ye dinna know aboot it, already)
Free Midi Files..... awe da Classical Favorites ur der...
ye wull find it... under VERDI...
Gae der...ye'll love it...an' hae a rare terr!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Antsman, I have no up to date info on Appiah.
Hamptontim, don’t know about Bobo. Don’t worry about TG, it is all posturing at the moment, he is still in demand and I am sure will go.
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Noel: Grrrr, no-one puts Henrik on the bench!!
Will people never learn??
Paul, Maloney per se may not be a WOW signing, But if he can play to his potential, his signing would round off a WOW midfield.
In terms of what we should pay: does he just want to leave Villa; or is he explicitly looking to return to Celtic?
In either case we should bid a modest premium funded by the sale of Riorden.
Net/net we probably break even in the whole trade.
Fingers crossed.
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Re- Michael Kellys letter in todays Herald-
This would have been his legacy.
found on CM.
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gm-
in his defence he called Michael Owen
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" A poor mans Henrik Larsson.....
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I'm glad Mendy's still on the Radar, thought he looked quite good for PSG in the Emirates cup games.
Didn't realise the Appiah offer still stood. I'm sure I read that the wages were the stumbling block with him.
So, possibly no WOW signings to come but maybe a couple of Hmmm's. Not too shabby.
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yoshi
Gal TUESDAY, done tole me...
Tell
yoshi:
Oan dat Musical site...
"Scroll PAST!!!... da Name, VERDI... Three or Four Lines...
Den ye wull see..." ANVIL CHORUS" come oan into line!"
All da midis ur Downloadable... an' dey AWE ur fur free...
How kin Dan dae dat......?
Fur da answer?...
Dinna look at Me!
collie
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
Noo, ah must be aff an runnin'..
as Gal FRIDAY..hiz jist went oot da door...
I dearly must catch up wi' her...
Fur ah' need a ride tae da Store!
G'Nite!
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Derbyshirebhoy
Happy to act collectively - email me at lynnconway@gofast.co.uk if you have any ideas.
LGS of Setanta Are Mince CSC
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Off topic ,a wee bit sweary and a bit off the wall-
Mad Pikey
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Paul67,
I don't know if you can remember back after Scotland Georgia game that i did say that i had been told apparently that Shaun went to see WGS afetr the game to apologise at what happened and ended up saying that he made a mistake, and regretted what he had done.
I think the wee man's head was wasted with his new agent and eventually went along with his advice.
If it does materialise i reckon WGS should be applauded for not cutting of his nose to spite his face. Many a manager would not have done this and i think it says a lot to Maloney how much he owes WGS.
This is the man that gave him the platform to perform, got him player of the year, and well it looks like taken him back to club to give him another opportunity to resurrect his career again.
Shaun owes him big time and should be grateful to have such a guy who has so much faith in him.
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Don't understand why we are linked with Mendy. I've never heard of him previously.
Suspect he is about darnel class.
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Paul67,
If Tommy G goes say hello to Mr Appiah
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El Diego Bhoy-
Any idea of a suitable alternative? I've thought about it and drawn a blank in terms of full backs that I think would actually come.
In his defence, I thought he looked good, fast and a good crosser.
Apparently he's one target out of a shortlist so perhaps WGS and Mr Lawwell have another ace up their sleeve.
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Hamptontim,
Thank you, tho I think Mr Pachabell deserves the credit for that and not me
Collie
The new project has started, thaks for that link
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Noel, a fine Peter Howson portrait of the man hangs above me as I type.
For me, and admittedly through green tinted specs, Pele is a poor man's Henrik Larsson.
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WGS-
I hope you're right cos my dad won't shut up about Appiah. That might appease him. :)
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Yoshi fantastic
You could have helped us tap into the South Korean market by using
this version of Canon
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GM-
I want my specs back........
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Gordon Smith's First Bloody Nose?
Did anyone see this coming?
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CelticSephiroth,
There is a great full back on a free just now looking for club and his name is.
HATEM TRABELSI.
Suprised nobody snapped him up yet. Moust sought sfter full back a year and half a go at Ajax with Nigel De Jong
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Ian-
SACK DUFFIELD.
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Imagine the top man in the SFA not being aware of the laws of the game.
SACK THE DUFFER.
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Trabelsi eh?
Hmmmmm.
Or should that be WOW!?
I've heard of him but am a mere gut-brained serf in terms of my knowledge of the player. I'll trust in your judgement and say DAE IT on this one. Especially if it's on a free.
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...or if he signs on Nike Friday.
JUST DAE IT!
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GM
by chance I bumped into a fella I had not seen in years about 6mnths ago.We knew each other not very well.
Talked and it turned out he writes on here.
That very day he had just purchased the Howson you speak of.
He got it at a very good price.
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Lads,
If we get Naismith and Maloney, and get rid of Miller and Riordan then the team look a different opposition in attack and midfield.
Goals available of McDonald, Naismith, JVOH, Killen.
Midfield full of goals as well as quick passing, speed and defending.
Donati, Brown, Naka, Maloney, McGeady.
Would leave just a quality centre half to be brought in and a
full back for cover.
If dead wood like Jiri and Tommy G go plus qualifying for CL then we get the WOW signing we want in who knows maybe Appiah or someone of that ilk.
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Just deleting text messages there and spied one from my friend which says.
"Gutted we missed out on Rod Fanni. Imagine the first three names on our team sheet...
NAYLOR BALDE FANNI
...that would be amazing."
Is it sad that I buckled at that?
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WGS-
That's twice in quick succession you've mentioned Appiah.
Are you my dad?
...I feel like I'm in Star Wars.
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CelticSephiroth,
Could be:
NAYLOR BALDE FANNI O'DEA
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And again I have creased =D
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No,
But the guy is pure class. If Lawwell managed to pull it off. Man should be given a knightood and a Jim McLean contract that ties him us all of his life.
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Whitedoghunch,
Wow. That guys good
You get on to the Celtic marketing departemnt right away.
You think he's any good at football? COuld be our Wow signing
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I think Lawwell has worked wonders. To be honest I'd love to see Appiah in the hoops.
And I'd also love to see PL give some journos a Jim McLean style battering in celebration of his signing at the official press conference.
"I...AM...MENTAWWWWWWW!"
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noel90, with such a bunch of amateurs in charge of the Scottish football, it's no surprise that there are so many embarrassing mishaps.
I suspect that this one is down to not observing proper ettiquete and procedure. As we know, FIFA is a highly political body and when it comes to passing new laws (even when it's only a trial) there are people who need to be consulted and approval sought. Seems like someone forgot to run this by FIFA before announcing it in the press? FIFA bigwigs will now be keen to ensure everyone understands what they can and cannot do without consultation.
Perhaps Gordon Smith will now be hauled in front of Sepp Blatter for dressing down : )
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Yoshi
the guy has had 25 million hits.
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GM is it the original or a print and is it yours. A very nice piece of art.
I would love to have a room big enough to have all othe lioness and I homes and also my top 5 players paintings in...its just a pity I need to work for a living.
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"I will happily discuss our plan with Fifa to explain the thinking behind it and what we hope to achieve," said the former Brighton and Rangers forward.
Talk about being off the pace. I can imagine that Sepp Blatter must be really pleased that Gordon is willing to discuss his plans for changing the laws of football.
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A word of caution I have not read much of the arguement of the diving today except headlines but did not the last guy in the seat which the brighton misser had move up in the world.
Do you think we will be used as a test case and he will gain massive points for him being forward thinking....
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I think Mr Gordon may be on his way for a Mary Poppins style going over when he goes to have this discussion with the beaks.
I hope he doesn't wear a bowler hat.
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GM is this the painting it is not even great it is better than that
Iconic
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Maybe we should punish the divers by making them walk the plank? Wee bit of irony punishment?
Ooft...
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SHAUN MALONEY?
I personally think the poor quality of our football last season was down to the absence of Maloney who was just beginning to impose his talent on our team.
He was the outstanding player of Gordon's first season. Assisting many of Zurawski's goals. And last season played a big part in our best performance of the season - Benfica. Which also included his trademark slide ruler pass for our killer 2nd.
There is a lot to think about when bringing a player back but you have to say Maloney would improve our team probably more so than Naismith and as earlier posts have indicated the midfield of Naka, Brown, Donati and Maloney looks great.
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In fairness to Wiggy, it is about time someone addressed the diving cheats (Joe Cole, Drogba etc). I'm sure I'm not the only one who is totally scunnered with the diving and cheating, the falling down as if been hit with a sniper etc
Maybe he wasn't aware of the fact that his suggestion contravened FIFA rules. Maybe, though, he did and wanted to challenge the status quo at FIFA.
Then again, do they contravene the rules:?
"According to the Fifa disciplinary code, article 79, the disciplinary decisions taken by the ref on the field of play during a match are final."
Does the fact that most leagues now routinely allow challenges to red cards after the game? Is this much different from what is proposed?
C'mon wiggy!
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can anybody give me more info on this eurovox box - does it just plug in? Do you need a sat. Disc? What channels can you get Sky sports, setanta, sky one etc
Anybody?
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Greenlion, alas I do work for a living and am not the owner of the origanal.
Much to the chagrin of Mrs GM we are the proud owner of 124 of 1000 prints.
It is my prize possession.
All money went to charity, which made up for not eating for a few months.
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WGS, CelticSepiroth
Naylor Balde Wei Fanni O'Dea ?
Oh dear! Are we talking about Miss Eggers again? Maybe there's the reason TG struggles to concentrate on tactics.
/s
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Paul got the cubs to bed and reading back...
The wages for the last 7 years are £222m rough figures of £32m a year.
Doea it get broken down between front line players, right down to youth players and management and back office players ie marketing, receptionists, chefs, waitresses etc.
It does not seem a lot of money per year to pay for a first team playing squad and all of the other support staff.
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GM you would really love the story of TTTT at the Frank McGarvey night. At least you have a classic.
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greenlion2
I don't know what the wage ratio's at football clubs are other than they are nuts.
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greenlion2
were you at my table at the McGarvey night ?
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No but you were a wee bit under the weather when I met you... I met all of the table you were at.
They were all great bhoys...
Marinello and Tinytim were also ther and great bhoys...
I also met Paul and he was at another table with some other bhoys!!!
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bangkokbhoy
Nobo. I think I will be howling for days:)))
On DR and KM hypothetically going back to Hibs. Would be great to give the Hibees something back after years of Glasgow plundering them(always felt sorry for them a
wee bit after the 6-1, 6-3 cup finals too.....5 would have been enough:) )
Those two bhoys would help destroy the huns at least twice a season. Probably score against us too mind......but what with, hypothetically again of course, getting SM and Steven Naismith it would be the most incredibly effective(a bit of a Hibs challenge)deal of the century.
Genius by default.
As for the draw later today, give me a team with Torpedo in the name, if there are any; they never seem to be any good, always get 'torpedoed' in European games. No facts, just my theory:))
Seriously, I feel qualifying for the CL this year will feel like winning a title all on it's own and then some. Then get only 3rd to drop into the EUFA? Fine with me, one step at a time.
It's still giving ring experience.
Come on The Celtic!!
Hail Hail
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Mr Lion
I resemble that allegation.
...aye Paul had a tough night he was like a kid in a sweetie shop.
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Whitedighunch,
Wow
Collie and anyone else interested, the new video is nearly done, should be on youtube within the hour.
Happy to recive anymore requests if anyone fancie somethng
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WDH we all were just pulling your chain
Still waiting on your CQN organised pre match drink
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yoshimisgreenandwhiterobot:
How about a collection of Enrico Annoni's shots at goal in a Celtic shirt? ;)
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senior Lion
I forgot that.
I shall put it on the list.
chin chin
Bryan
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Sdstim
Thanks again, I apreciate the coments on the video. Have made another at Collies request, bit more upbeat this time, so hope you all enjoy this one to
Celtic 6 Rangers 2. Anvill
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Inverness' new star signing (so, best player) won't play against Rangers on Saturday due to 'work permit issues'. Sounds Farry-esque. Sort it Duffield.
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Yoshi
Outstanding work
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Don't understand why we are linked with Mendy. I've never heard of him previously.
Suspect he is about darnel class.
Clearly since you, as chief scout of all football, have never heard of the man, he must be awful.
Since you have provided such downright conclusive evidence against the talent of this player I join your camp El Diego, why on earth would we sign him??
I mean before Moravcik and Larsson arrived you naturally knew them from their first kick of the ball to the day they joined the glorius hoops and predicted their success yes? I for one am truly glad we have one with such forsight amongst us.
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Paul, I agree with most of what you said. But I still have serious concerns about our commercial activity. My experiences at the Celtic Superstore and using the mail order / internet are rarely satisfactory, and the availability of Celtic merchandise here in Japan is still dreadful. My folks are here from Glasgow to visit the grand-weans, and wanted to take some Nakamura souvenirs home, so we were out in the sports stores. I couldn't see one Celtic top for sale - and these were huge stores with dedicated Nike zones selling all sorts of other (often obscure) European teams' shirts. I do see more and more Celtic shirts on the streets, but these are very often the fakes bought overseas, or sold outside the 'J-soccer' stadiums. At the Yokohama game last summer, there must have been well-over 5000 fake shirts sold. I know they were fakes as they were the new away top, which wasn't even on sale at that time! Talking to friends, the ones who have real shirts either got them via the online shop, or had folks like myself pick them up in Glasgow for them. Shunsuke is wildly popular here right now, and the hoops are seen on him on several of his numerous TV commercials but we're not cashing-in at all. We probably have only another few years max to do it, but we're missing out on a huge amount of revenue.
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TravelBhoy,
Sorry I wasn't back on last night, what email addy are you using to contact Setanta?
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Good Morning CQNers
This is all very exciting.... who is coming in, who is going??
Anyway, as a newcomer to the site, I was upset that I hadn't had a welcome from the great man (tears and everything). I've now realised why, so here goes......
Paul, Hi..... super smashing site and another fandabidosi article. I needn't ever read a newspaper again!!
Hail Hail
Sir Titus
Celtic 6 - Kilmarnock 3
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Sir Titus - Welcome to CQN, and good night from over here.
By the way are you sure the SIR bit will go down OK on here - this is a CELTIC blog you know.
Or are you one of Edwards lot?
Goodnight again.
Oregonbhoy
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Sir Titus Celt
From the N.E. corner of Oz, one of the Brisbane branch of CQN, also extends his welcome; before you spit the dummy, without having had the pleasure of a,'CQN', cyber tiff.
Happy posting
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Good Morning / Afternoon James and Kitalba.
Thanks for your welcome.
You dont really think I'm a Sir do you? If I was I would have someone posting on my behalf!
Thank goodness we will have some real football to talk about next week.
Hail Hail
Sir Titus
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Samibhoy
Don't know if it's entirely true, but I read somewhere that this years Celtic strip was the fastest selling strip ever in Nike's stable.
Apparently other teams strips were being pulled from production so as more Celtic strips could be made and sent to outlets.
As I say, can't remember where I read it, but if true, maybe this could be the reason why so few strips are available.
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Sir Titus Celt
hoping we win, because if not, I'm going as far from a PC as my legs will carry me.
You been doing any scrolling in search of Shaun news?
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Brian Quinn is on Today at about 7.25.
Available to all online: bbc.co.uk/radio4
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Morning Campers from Sunny Singapore…..
Mr. Titus, welcome.. I am sure you will contribute to the blog….
Hope all is well in CQN land, I have been AWOL for a few weeks due to travel commitments….. Howeva!!! I shall be gracing Glasgow 1st week September…. Since I have not had the chance to make the golf outing, the taxi was too expensive…. if anyone wishes to participate in a few sherbies in Tuesday 4th September in the Louden Tavern…. (AYE RIGHT) in a fine establishment in the city centre or west end I would be more than open to the invitation to speak about all good things Celtic… By then I am sure WSM will have signed… Good on him!!
So what gives, season about to start, feeling confident, looking forward to seeing the new players on Sunday making their debut for our beloved…..
Paul – If Kevin fancies a pint, please tell him to mail me he has my email address….. Also why is the Share Price so high?? Is this based on your recent announcement …….
Anyway let the season commence and as I said if you fancy a wee swallie then let me know!
Hail Hail
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singaporecelt
I too, may be back in Glasgow around the same time.
If we're there the same time I'd happily join you.
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Kitalba,
We could have a CQN overseas get together……. Lol
You can mail me at john_the_wayne@hotmail.com nearer the time…
Hail Hail
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Good morning.
Get In There !!!
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Kitalba
Read on KDS earlier that the only "concrete" news behind the WSM story is that he has bought a flat in the West-End. I dont believe a word of it.
Maybe he's signing for Partick Thistle:))))
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Cheers SPC
Kitalba - Yes I have.... no fresh perspective.
Hail Hail
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God morning all.
I see from The Herald that Walter has bought Whitakker for midfield. So Sean will be facing two right backs against them.
That should help to settle the great debate. Aye right.
singaporecelt, Kitalba, I'm back in the UK at the beginning of September as well. Sounds like we could have a rehearsal for the global convention. In my case though I'll be back for good (well, the foreseeable future anyway).
Titus Celt
Shameless attention seeking, Sir. You should fit in quite well.
Welcome.
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I was going to change that to Good Morning all but I think i'll just leave it the way it is.
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Morning ghuys, ghals and Shug
well it's Friday and I have but two things to say
01, Jefferies - zip it, Bungle (that's what I call a Rainbow Coalition)
02, Duffield - gettayfu
nonkilwinninGemmell
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Can anyone please tell me who the disaster-addled, domestos-doused, diarroeah-drenched, devil-devoted, dettol-dodging, dundee-hamilton, dreadful, dutch-elm-diseased darnel playing this weekend ?
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Cheannaiseabird
I know you watched the Asian Cup but wanted to ask of you spotted any potential signings in it.
I loved watching the Japanese play but they had a touch of the Arsenal about them(sorry WG) in that the didn't get the ball in the net and kill teams off. Some of their play was excellent though, and a cut above the rest.
For what it's worth, I really liked Komano, their two footed left back, and the other Nakamura.
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bangkokbhoy - apologies for hijacking your question to CSB, but I viewed a fair bit of said tourny, and I was well impressed with a couple of the iraq front men. obviously thats a bit obvious as they won the thing, but there aint half some talent there.
One big lad in particular reminded me of Mido, but with touch, pace and no spare tyre!
Hail Hail
Sir Titus
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Brian Quinn
On SFA and diving.
"The SFA is right to be looking at this because it is, no doubt, a blot on the modern game. It still enrages fans today. But you would have thought the SFA would have done their homework and taken the trouble to satisfy themselves that what they are proposing was consistent with the rules of the game. So there's some sorting out to be done there."
He also spoke about the CL, the SPL challenge and Gordon Strachan's tenure as manager.
Full transcript later if required. My carriage awaits.
Later, amigos, as someone once said.
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bangkokbhoy
I started watching a few games, but not many held my attention. I agree, Japan were technically a cut above and usually entertaining to watch, but in the end they got what they deserved.
Against Australia and Saudi Arabia (great game, that one)they were clearly the better footballing side, but too passive until they went behind.
I wanted to like Nakata, but he didn't quite do it for me. Endo and Nakamura 2 looked good in spells as well.
I didn't really spot anyone who would jump into the first team.
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Sir Titus
I've seen quite a bit of the Iraqis recently and they became my adopted team for the tourny as I'm in the Middle East just now.
Younes, the guy who scored in the final, totally transformed them when they played some pre-tourny games in Jordan. The other player to watch was Nashat, the number 5 with the red boots. I was pleased to see him make the step up and boss some games in the tourny.
In the final, the number 13, who is only 20 yo, had a blinder.
I really expected the Saudis to win the final but Iraq barely gave them a kick. Actually, they gave them a few good kicks early on and the saudis bottled it.
I watch the final in an Iraqi cafe here and the atmosphere was outstanding. About 300 folk singing throughout the game and a worrying stampede out the door at the final whistle!
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winningemmell...
They have a wee trip up north to play Inverness at 12.30 tomorrow.
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BKB - Younes.... thats it.... no wonder I erased it from my tiny brain.... that name sounds like someone else!
He was quite a player, and as you say, the big number 5 looked good as well.
Hail Hail
Sir Titus
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Gordon -
thanks for that nugget of info. This means my early-day tiffin in the Teser will not be spoiled by the presence of Les Darnelistas Diabolique.
C'mon the Invers.
I trust the Highland capital's pharmacies will remain open throughout the weekend. They'll need a field hospital for their playing staff casualties alone.
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new article posted.
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Just in after nightshift, read all the posts, i would rather maloney than naismith but would b happy with them both.
Yoshi, excellent videos, the 6-2 1 had me grinning ear 2 ear.
Hail hail.
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A quick guide to who we can & can't draw today.
Champions League Draw
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Hafnarfjordur / BATE vs Zaglebie / Steaua
Tampere / Levski Sofia vs Astana / Rosenberg
Spartak Moscow vs CELTIC
Bremen vs Domzale / Dynamo Zagreb
Ventspils / Salzburg vs Pyunik / Shakhtar Donetsk
Ajax v Zilina / Slavia
Valencia vs Debrecen / Elfsborg
Genk / Sarajevo vs Dynamo Kiev
Fenerbahce vs Anderlecht
Rangers / Zeta vs Crvena Zvezda / Levadia
Toulose vs Liverpool
Benfica vs Copenhagen / Beitar Jerusalem
Lazio vs Dinamo Bucharest
Sparta vs Arsenal
Zurich vs Besiktas / Sheriff
Sevilla vs AEK
