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I know if I watch a second of the huns game they will score.I have empirical evidence if I watch them on TV they will score, it's not even occasionally but God forgive me every time.
The red star and stuggart games being prime examples, one quick glance on TV to see the score and both times I watch them score!!
Will not ever watch them on TV again.
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Motherwell 1 Rangers 0 HT
Only one team playing football and they deservedly lead at half time.
Referee is doing his best to spoil the game with constatnt whistling. Don't think he has even heard of the advantage rule.
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BSM71, you and me both. I am sitting in the house alone at the moment watching kids TV.
I am also a jinx, © the numbered one.
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Enjoyable game - with the score so far how could it not be?
Motherwell playing some nice football and fully deserving their lead. BSM71 please do not watch. My water tells me they (you know who they are) will not go through the next 45 without a goal.
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derbyshirebhoy.
I am going for the train now and will not even listen to my DAB radio just incase!!
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Bsm71,
I have to third that. I would only add that it causes me actual pain when they score. How sad is that?
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huns tend to score very quickly after HT in thses games think well may need to hold out a bit if they are too get a result
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BSM71 & Paul67 : it's not the telly with me, it's always the radio! Mate has stopped texting me if they are losing in case I put the radio on.
How ironic that Stephen Hughes stopped a certain equaliser just before h/t?!
TTTT
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Damien @ 11:45. "an overtly political statement"? Qualify this please...
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bsm71 - I turned it on and Motherwell immediately scored!
I think I'll keep watching.
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I looked in as it was half time, the Motherwell goal was offside.
:-)
TTTT, I find that if I get the score via CQN it tends to be good news. There is a whole positive karma about this place. Sometimes.
Ciao Watchow.
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Getting ready 4 going 2 the game by watching Motherwell beating Rangers 1- 0 at half time.
Walked the dog, fed my face, got a spare ticket 4 my son, looking 4ward 2 game, taking my boy 2 the game like my dad used 2 take me.
I think it will b a quite tough game but we should come out with a win, prediction Celtic 3 Dundee Utd 1.
Hail Hail
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Amazing how irrational we become when it comes to football!
Interesting second half ahead. Darcheville on at HT for Whittaker. Looks like 4-3-3 for both sides, so could be a few more goals.
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Darcheville on for Whittaker, this guy can do some damage.
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Waiting for the penalty. Should be along soon
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Darcheville going off with a hamstring problem.
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Paul67 - You not going to the game ?
Stuck in the office, up to my ears in work with the radio on.......oh the radio said...........
CHAMPIONS 3 - 1 Dundee Utd
JVoH, Skippy & Brown
BTW, Darcheville off injured already :-)
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Darcheville off for Beasley, another dangerous player if he's allowed to play. A tough tackle 5 minutes in would quieten him down.
Fortunately Darcheville and Beasley look most dangerous when played together, which I suspect was W Smith's plan later in the game. Scuppered.
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Game getting a bit tasty - there's a red in the air. I can smell it!
Hope it's that wonderful humaniterian, Mr Boyd.
TTTT
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Merrylee. You stole my prediction. Celtic three Dundee Utd one.. *:)
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This game is worth watching just for the brief glimpses of the Rangers director with the walking stick sitting just behind Walter Smith. You should see the kipper on him.
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And the pen arrives. No shock.
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And the penalty arrives.
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Boyd scores pen 1 - 1.
Beasley wend down as if shot after the slightest of touches from the defender. Wonder if the SFA will look at the simulation? No, thought not.
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penalty to Rankers
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Now where's that red card?
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Typical, Motherwell knocked back for a pen, Mordorians get a softy
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Im watching Man City v Geordies..Id love to see the honey monster as Celtics CH post january..
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Penalty decision was very similar to the one Motherwell were denied earlier. Very soft, not a penalty in either case.
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At 29/09/07 13:45, TommyTwistsTommyTurns said…
"Game getting a bit tasty - there's a red in the air. I can smell it!"
And in a just world, I wouldn't be surprised to see Mr Hutton on the receiving end...
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Sons
I agree but just does it not just tick(trying to be nice) you off, every time they are struggleing they get a helping hand?
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Adam on for Naysmith, who was anonymous.
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Fat Charlie on...
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Off to watch some decent football now.
Hopefully Motherwell will hang on for a point...
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5 mins plus help time left
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Motherwell looking the better team.
Cuellar saves the bacon again...
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Mick - Agree totally, but I try not to rise to it. As Yoda once told me "Leads to the dark side, it does".
Did you notice how the 'Well players didn't really dispute the penalty? Sometimes I suspect these teams know themselves there's a grim inevitability to these things.
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2 mins
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Todays waste of money: Barnsley v Cardiff 2, Leicester v stoke 1,Celtic v Dundee Utd(o-1 handicap)1,FC København v Lyngby(0-1)1,Viking v Strømgodset(0-1)1..
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2mins added time
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30 secs
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1-1 full time
how good was that!
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1-1 FT
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Starting XI -
Boruc
Doumbe
Caldwell
Mcmanus
Naylor
Hartley
Brown
Donati
McGeady
JVoH
Scotty
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1-1 What happened to the statutory 5 mins. Clearly Mr Thomson got the time wrong. There must be a stewards inquiry surely?
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Gordon Strachan was asked on Radio Scotland to say a word or two about Brian Quinn's chairmanship while he has been the manager. He spoke very nicely and succinctly about needing a friend at the beginning of his time with our club and that Quinn was that friend to him and his family and he (WGS) will never forget that.
Liked that.
Cmon the hoops! Let's get to the summit again.
Blatant dive by Beasley. Will he get the Mikoliunas treatment? I'll go for a 'no' there!!
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Anyone fancy giving updates please ?
pablophanque
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Hello SeeKiueners,
I’m sitting back ready for the top of the league. Us 3 – 1 them.
HHB
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Pablo -
I'm not at the game this afternoon, so I'll make meself (intermittently) useful.
No real action so far...
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any burds in here????
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thanks hoopla, do what you can
Hail Hail
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Gordon has showed his support for Wilson to come back from his injury.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7019372.stm
"Whatever I feel is nothing compared to how he feels because I do believe that, when I saw him at the beginning of last season, he could have walked into a lot of English Premier League sides and be a top player," said Strachan.
At least Wilson is young so he has plenty of time to recover from his injuries. get well soon Mark
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Goal Scotty
Great play by Aiden
1-0 Hoops
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Or possibly JVoH.
Header down by the big fella, Scotty kinda helped it over...
Hibs 1-0 up against the Killie Boys.
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wow, it's great to score a goal in the 1st ten mins instead of losing one.
Nice one Skippy Bhoy
HHB
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Thanks hoopla, stuck in work and radio Scotland have the sheep game on and I can't get any mw on my phone :o(
pablophanque
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yeeeessss! excellent start. just been readin ac milan's stats for the first 5 games of the season...not being doing to well, one win,3 draws and a defeat last week to palermo...bring it on!!!!!
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Good strike by JVoH - blocked by defender.
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Interesting that with aiden on the right its easier form him to go outside and get to the bye line. His first meaningful run and its a goal.
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United fans chanting The Billy Boys - or The Willy Boys - or whatever it is they're singing.
Class.
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Greencube -
And how well Aiden seems to do in that position for the Republic too...
I wish he and Naka would swap sides more often, mix it about a bit.
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Good build-up play by the Hoops, final ball just goes astray...
Dons 2-0 up against Gretna.
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Scotty Mac caught in possession - Broon none to happy with the challenge...
ICT 2-0 Falkirk
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Nother surging run by Aiden... Robson struggling to cope down the wing.
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United seem up for this, but so do we.
No complacency on show so far...
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miller just scored for derby, good luck to the wee man, should never have sold him.
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I think Gordon has predicted that Robson would be a weak spot and he's told McGeady to terrorize him.
King Kenny has scored his second goal in three in the EPL. Maybe we should have asked for more money!
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Scotty Mac bodychecked on the edge of the box.
Yellow for DazzaDodds.
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Free kick taken by Hartley, but nothing comes of it.
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How are we playing ghuys ?
pablophanque
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Good interplay, by Aiden & ScottyMac.
Doumbe loses possession, but good interception by Broon stems the danger.
Hibs 2-0 up - pen. Would love to see Jowly Jim's coupon right now...
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Penalty claim against Lee Wilkie - nothing doing.
We are playing well Pablo, but it is a wee bit frantic to suit us.
Get the impression it is the sort of game that could kick off a bit if there was a bad tackle...
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Celtic on the break - Donati does very well, but final shot was weak when he might have played in ScottyMac...
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Quick counter - MaDo tries to clip into far corner, Scott looked better placed for the pull back
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Good strike Robertson, Artur deals with it well.
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JVoH off with knock. That could be a bit of a blow, hopefully its precautionary...
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MaDo looks looks very 'relaxed' when they have the ball.
JVOH coming off - Killen on
We are not pressing them when they have the ball - very strange
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Hope Chris plays a blinder and gives WGS a headache for Wednesday!
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This is all getting a bit scrappy - we're certainly not dominating.
United are not AC Milan, but they look motivated and decently organised.
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Agree with C67 commentators - we need to up the pace
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We allow our opponents possession in their own half and in the middle third because we're trying to draw them open to catch them on the counter because we have a number of pacey players in our team. Plus we should conserve energy for Wednesday.
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CFunk -
Agreed. We were closing down well earlier, but seem a bit more laissez-faire now...
Think some folk need a bit of a shot in the arm at HT...
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Sean -
I'd prefer to see us two up before we go into energy-saving mode...
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I think the AC game is on a few minds out there.
Good shot McGeady. Decent pressure just now.
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Good effort by ScottyMac, just over the bar...
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is it just me or is Lee Naylor playing well?
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First corner. Better now by Celtic. One before HT pleeze??
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Half Time 1-0
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We seem to burst into life at times - Scott McD actually reminds me of Romario
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Thanks ghuys, keep it up... :o)
pablophanque
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Cubist Funk said...
"Scott McD actually reminds me of Romario"
LOL. You know, when I say that sort of thing to my Rangers-supporting mates, they wullnae believe me!
Know what you mean though, he has that... bustle to him...
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Dida out for Wednesday - good news.
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Further good news is the Hibs penalty was apparently Well Dodgy.
Good post-match whine fae the Jowlmeister in prospect...
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Thanks for the updates guys - looking after two kids at the moment so a bit hard to keep up with things!!!
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Gaun yerself Skippy!!
Scott McDonald has composure, Paul 67 referred to this recently. We need to be imbued with compusure on the field of play.
Paul McStay had it,
Bobby Murdoch had it,
Kenny Dalglish had it.
After being subbed against Spartak Moscow game I saw Scotty in converstation with Lisbon Lions legend John Clark in the dugout. He looked keen to learn and was relishing the experience.
Let´s see if Killen gets a few chances in the second half.
Fanx 4 updates
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Another penalty to Hibs - saved.
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hoopla - missed the first 20 mins - sounds like I saw the lesser part of the first half
Hope Chris Killen doesn't try too hard 2nd half - 'just' play target man & do it well
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Late KO, underway now.
Duff and Stevie Robb both on for United -
Robertson and Gomez off.
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thanks for the info hoopla and all, we need one more goal to settle the outcome, please, please no more injuries, get to top of the league and prepare for the biggy. Not much to ask for.
Come on ye Celts.
Hail hail
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Hardly a feast of football at the moment...
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Great play Aiden.
Killen misses a good chance, just wide of the post...
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When they run at JJPD he looks in complete control even though they have the ball - very comfortable 1-on-1
We are still a bit flat - MaDo & Scott B again again a bit anonymous for me
Aiden brilliant in the corner - Scott mcD dink - ends up with CK passing wide from just inside area
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McGeady playing well at the moment, working hard too.
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Boruc saves the jerseys.
1-on-1, and that is NOT good for the heart...
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hoopla - just thinking same - Aiden looks the man most likely for us
ooooo - Scott B just overhits/CK fails to anticipate
Artur blocks it 1-on-1
Other end CK offside - very open - not what we want methinks
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Corner Hartley - Mick header over the bar...
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This is a bit end-to-end.
Much more entertaining than the 1st half - but a bit too "entertaining", ken?
Corner United.
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DazzaDods wins the header cleanly - just past the post.
Come on Celtic!
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Anaemic performance from us & they lack cuttng edge
One mistake/lucky shot/goal from dead-ball and we are looking at 1-1
They just missed a free header at far post from corner
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Goal ScottyMac.
2-0 Hoops
Gereat persistence from the Ozzie Romario.
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Get in there Skippy!
2 Nil.
Lubo :-)
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Great burst from Scott B, skill & strength in equal measure - nice little return ball from CK under pressure - Scott McD takes it left around keeper & swivels to finish coolly
hoopla - that was definitely out of the Book of Finishes by Romario
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Skippy Hat-trick
3-0
YYYYAAAAAASSSSSS!!!!!
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3 Nil...
Hat trick for Skippy.
Lubo.
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Who says Aiden has no end product?
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3rd penalty for Hibs - Goal.
Oh my sainted Aunt, the Jowly Boy's head will be near esplodin...
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Great volley Scotty B - just wide of post.
We are motoring now chaps...
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twelfthman - Lee Naylor is playing his way back
3-0 Scotty McD - who ho hohohohohohoh - we ahave the colour back in our cheeks
Scott McD uses his strength to win back posssession - Scott B zips it quickly to Aiden wide right - Aiden hits a wicked early cross - Scott McD hits it first time on half-volley - a bit like a diminutive brazilian in the World cup in USA
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Hoopla - perhaps if he was played on the right more often his delivery would be of the standard it is today.
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Good play McGeady again.
Be interesting if Skippy got a hat-trick but Aiden got MoM...
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My last comment's got lost and in between Skippy Bhoy's got another one . Yaas. That's us set up quite nicely for AC.
We're top o' the league ma.
Hail Hail
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Greencube -
As you can imagine you are preaching to the converted as far as I'm concerned.
But unfortunately that would mean playing Naka on the left, and he is left-foo... oh wait...
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Aiden should be wearing a tux & carrying a cane - great show today.
Scott McD is replaced to great applause & MOM.
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6 mins left.
Be nice to get another, but to be honest I'd be happy with energy-saving mode and no injuries...
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Aiden still going.
Magic on for Skippy btw...
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More great play Aiden - goes past two defenders, but great save from his shot...
Sorry Scotty - you were first rate, but Aiden MoM as far as I'm concerned...
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Is it just me, or does Magic seem kind of... up for it?
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Thanks for all the updates, much appreciated!!! Sounds like a decent warmup for Wednesday - How did the defence do?? In particular LN???Good to hear Aiden in a bit of form.....
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FT 3-0 Hoops.
Positives -
Wonderful display by Aiden Astaire.
Hat trick and great all-round display from Scotty Mac.
And to great relief from me, Doumbe (apart from one dodgy moment 2nd half) has looked very much the part.
Oh yeah - Scottish Champions go Top Of The League
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Well done hoopla - great perfomance yersel.
Hail Hail
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Thanks a lot for the updates ghuys. 6 goals in 10 games !!! That'll do fer me.
pablophanque
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i had suggested that there was a glimmer of improvement against Dundee midweek, and i would suggest that that was carried onto today's games - keeping my fingers crossed!
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No problem hhbhoy - bringing my juggling skills into play ; )
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Knew you could do it hoopla - now for the biggy. Be there:-)
HHB
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Fancy that!!!
No deluge of comments after a thumping win.
Big shock,or what?
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Kano
Thats the way life goes dont you know.This is what this forum is all about.
Get off your High Horse
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Hah - I am presently listening to the radio, where Craig Levein has just alerted me to the fact that "apart from the goal", Aiden "didn't trouble" BazzaRob at all.
You have to wonder, sometimes...
WHEEL ON JEFFERIES.
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Your jis itchin' fur a fight intcha big yin ????
pablophanque
Ps, the next crisis will be just around the corner for some mate.
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Hoopla @ 16:44 - Classic!
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s it just me or are too many people too ready to criticise but not to praise - lets face we won 3-0, OzScott got a hat-trick, clean sheet, nice build up to Wednesday....someone said that Lee Naylor had a good game, surely another plus point!! The only negative is the injury to JVoH - any news on that by the way???
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nelsbhoy.
try giving me that garbage when we get beat.
And besides,if I was on a high horse at the moment,I would probably fall off.
Pablo.
Moi?
Would I ever?
Sensitive wee soul me.
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Kano -
Unlike Mr Naylor himself, some of his detractors seem to vanish when things are going the other way...
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Happy clappers are in the clouds
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Kano - That's a bit unfair, the mine shafters are still busy phoning into the radio call ins and writing to their friends at the Daily Ranker/Hunday Mail.
3-0 against another potential banana skin, top of the league and three goals for the wee man - it's the boards fault!!
WHERE"S NEG-ANON????
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Hoopla,the man takes anything that is going.
Physical assaults from fellow players which go unchecked.
I am not the first person to notice this.
No cover from his more "talented" team-mates.
Plays through injury.
Plays through abuse from his own supporters.
Not just on here,but,sadly,during the games.
Then he comes through,with a good game,and his head held higher thjan thoose who belittle the guy's contribution to our team.
In fact,demand that he should never wear a Celtic jumper again.
Sometimes we have the biggest fannies imaginable supporting us.
They may well have followed the team for fifty years.
But,I bet they were fannies then too.
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Ermm Kano - was that the "biggest fans imaginable" ? ; )
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Kano - Fifty years! who could you be referring too? HMMM. :-)
How's this for positive press -
"Motherwell hold R*ngers at Fir park"
Sounded like the other way round actually.
Oregonbhoy
ParanoidCSC.
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Overall a good performance today, but bery flat in the first half after we went one up. Things got better in the second half and we played some decent football.
MacDonald and McGeady were the best performers. Aiden playing on the right taking on the full back, getting to the by line and putting crosses in. Of course this meant we had little down the left but I guess you can't have everything.
JVoH looks like he has no chance for Wednesday, so we could be without three first team players.
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Home from the game.Dundee Utd never really bothered us that much.
Skippy earned an impressive hatrick. McGeady I thought was excellent, Lee Naylor had a fair game, cerainly no lack of effort or covering the ground on his part, more up 4 it in my view than big Jan, who was taken off injured. His replacement Killen seems 2 need a goal or 2, 2 drive him on a bit. It's a concern 4 the Milan game, could b better with Zurawski up front with McDonald, Anyhow European football is a healthy bonus as far as I am concerned. SPL leaders again, I am lovin' it.
overthemooncsc:)
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Man,it is really quiet on here efter a win.
WE ARE TOP.
AGAIN.
This is where we will stay.
The huns,regardless of what Neg Anon and Sean South and Bhoy Molloy,and Italiabhoy tell us,and the rest of the Scottish press,(which I thankfully hear nothing of)are garbage.
I will repeat,garbage.
Having said that,maybe we should keep this a secret.
For if everybody knows it,then the only reason we will win the league AGAIN,is because everybody else is rubbish.
And don't forget too.
If we manage to get out of our very tough Champion's League group.
It will be down to, purely,the following.
A/ Shakhtar have never been able to play away from home,so beating them should be treated with the same distain as beating any other SPL "cannon fodder".
B/ We were lucky enough to meet AC again,for the second consecutive year,whilst they were,historically at their weakest.
C/We managed to beat at home,and take a point away,from the poorest Benfica team to play against us since we played the last Benfica team who were capable of humping us in Lisbon.
Feel free to copy this,and bring it out to knock me with.
But I get a wee feeling I will be grinning,and sneering come November.
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Just back from game. Excellent second half performance after indifferent first half.
Coupla points. Top marks for Artur, making a big save at 1-0. Also kudos to Aiden for being creative and tenacious with absolutely no protection from the ref. Kudos too to Naylor- stood up and was counted, much better performance. Plus marks for Donati for excellent pass at first goal, and Brown for all round narky diggy powerful performance.
The referee- was it Dougie MacDonald, I sit so far back I can barely see? A cheat, pure and simple.
Finally, the real McDonald- that's what we want to see!! Loved the Larsonesque cushioned dinky finish for the third.
Not a Milan-defeating performance, but very satisfying nonetheless.
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Hoopla,
Of course.
Never was a good typist.
If only I could find the wee bin.
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Kano,
"I bet they were fannies then too."
LOL
(Off to watch the bundesliga)
HHB
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Can anyone recommend somewhere to watch the game on Wednesday in Derry?
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James,disnae surprise me.
Hold them back from taking OUR position.
That is their stance.
And it is plain to see for those who care to look.
It is written in far bigger letters than what is in their headlines.
Just that most people miss them.
Or choose to!!
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did somebody on here not say a right sided player,
on the right side of the park.
mcgeady man of the match playing
on his natural side and had a cracking game.
would like to see this more often, very comfortable win for celtic.scott mcdonald showing celtic were correct in taking the cash for kenny miller.
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Yogi,yogissannies,yogiswellies,whatever you are called.
It wisnae sumdy.
It was me!!
Kano.
The Antipodean letter writer.
Why don't you say,
Hey Kano,that was a good idea you were spouting the other night?
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Kano, deleted, language.
Excellent performance today. Dundee were allowed few genuine chances and we scored good goals.
How did Rangers get on?
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Gweedore Bar every time in Derry mate!
Just back from there watching the game and yes Kano, Naylor did well as they all did before u start on me. Its just frustation at times honest.
Played at an easy pace and a nice performance all round.
1-0 midweek anyone?
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Paul,which wan?
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Ref's getting slaughtered on Celticminded. Any comment from those at the game ?
pablophanque
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kano
that was a good idea you were spouting the other night.
p.s. yogi never wore wellies
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Yogi,let;s be right rebels(pardon the pun) and play Naka on the left sometimes tae.
Ye never know,even the fullbacks might look good,eh!!!
Couldnae have that noo could we?
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Pablo,
Ref was awful! Our strikers were manhandled all day with no protection while defenders were given fouls for nothing.
Worst was in the second half when Scott McDonald turned Wilkie who was holding him with both arms. Result - free kick to Utd!
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pablophanque,
The ref was atrocious. He and his linesmen seemed determined to prevent us returning to the top of the league. Celtic players were consistently pulled up for utterly inocuous challenges, Utd on the other hand were allowed to get away with sly kicks, pulling, shoving, you name it.
Really bad. It is to the players' credit that we are not talking about a major injustice this afternoon.
My fear is that, in a tight race, these cretins could make the difference, as we all know they have in the past.
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Gordon_J
Didn't you know it was foul play if our forward ran away from their last defender into a dangerous forward position?
How long have you been watching Celtic?
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Paul,they got "on" extremely well.,they managed to get a point from Motherwell.
More than I expected.
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Pablo
A lot of wrong decisions, including one where, at 1-0, Scott McD was adjudged to have fouled Lee Wilkie, when he would have been clear through, which would have made it 2-0.
On Scott McDonald, just imagine if the Huns had stumped up the extra ten bob Motherwell were after? I thought he would have been a Dougie Arnott (good player, remember him?)clone, but there is so much more to his game and he holds the ball up better than JVOH. A total pain in the neck to play against.
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We knew it would be like this ghuys and it will get worse, make no mistake about that. Apparently 'well were denied a penalty, quel surprise !!!!??????
pablophanque
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Champions 3 - Dougie MacDonald 0
I thought Brines was bad on Wednesday night, but that was an absolutely disgraceful performance by the man in the middle today.
He's either a blatant cheat or I'm paranoid and he's just incredibly inept.
Skippy is proving to be an excellent piece of business. A winning goal at Ipox and I'll finally forgive him for Martin42's favourite day! ;-)
Aiden came close for MoM, but there are still times when he should pass and doesn't. I'm nitpicking, as he's had a great start to the season. Seemed to have a bit more pace about him today. He must have been reading CQN a few weeks ago and got some sprint training in!
TTTTwhosawP67&Kevsneakingoutbefore
theend....becauseIdidtoo
TTTT
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And who schedules a Rush concert at the SECC, the same time we play Milan?
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kano
this simple change altered aiden mcgeady's game, I really don't know where when or why, this silly trend started in football. I've just witnessed giggs running in from the right another left footer doing the same at man utd, on the live tv game. other than football coaches being sheep, who knows.
pablophanque
dougie mcdonald gave a lot of the 50/50's to utd
i'd say his performance was representative of
a normal spl referee at celtic park. i.e. biased
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Paul67,
Just been lurking on FollowFollow to gloat at their grief. I see they are carrying a picture of two Celtic fans holding a banner before today's game with "John Reid War Criminal" emblazoned on it.
I posted earlier today that I feared the useful idiots in our support were about to do the Daily Record's dirty work for them. Sadly, looks like I was right...
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Great result and an immediate return to the top of the league.
Terrific display by McDonald and fully deserving of his 3 goals.
McGeady was absolutely outstanding in the second half. His delivery for the 3rd goal was superb.
Other positive was the display of JJPD. He's good on the ball and arguably is more robust than Wilson. Wednesday night will be the real test for him.
Negatives? The performance of the referee, Dougie MacDonald was truly dreadful. After a first half littered with poor decisions, it became laughable during the second half.
After Kennedy's display against Dundee, I was also disappointed that Gordon appeared to make clear he views McManus and Caldwell as his first choice central defence. The 2 free headers allowed by Caldwell in the 2nd half from corner kicks apart, the chance the pair of them offered up to United in the 2nd half with the score at 1-0 was indicative of the ease with which they are easily taken apart. If that had been Inzaghi (who thrives on playing in the hole between 2 centre halfs), I would expect Boruc to have had no chance.
Our best defensive performances this season have not involved a centre half pairing of Caldwell and McManus. In my view, they are the 4th and 5th best central defenders available to us. If Gordon is going to play them, I only hope they improve very quickly.
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Scott McDonald is your typical Aussie player(I don't mean Viduka or Kewell).
He is fit,fast,strong,and doesn't mind the physical side.
I said,at the start of the season,he would be a very good signing for us,one that would be much better than he,or Gordon Strachan,would be given credit for.
And I would still be waiting on a verdict for Chris Killen.
I have a feeling about him.
And despite recent criticism of him by myself.
I like Scott Brown.
He has the attitude and desire that I like to see.
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Kano, the 'S' wan.
Good result for Rangers then.
TTTT, Martin42 was reading at the evening celebration which required an early exit. He was the guy dragging us down the stairs.
Italiabhoy, I heard about the protest and am sure it is playing well on that web site. I am all for people having their say, but I hope once this has been done we can more on.
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Italiabhoy.
Holding up a placard with a statement of fact on it is not "useful idiots in our support about to do the Daily Record's dirty work for them"
It is the likes of you who will give them reason to think that there is a schism between us.
If you continue to spout that this is a good appointment for our club.
It is you who shall damage our standing.
For someone who has previously espoused the nonsense that politics has nothing to do with our club.
You seem quite retiscent about the fact that a "war criminal" has been appointed our chairman.
How do you see this as a problem for the people who merely state facts?
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Italiabhoy -
It would have been borderline incredible had there been no show of dissent at Reid's appointment.
To be honest, I think Dermot Desmond has done the media's dirty work for them - the appointment was always going to be a hostage to fortune as regards both media coverage and angering/splitting the support. I guess he felt the potential benefits made it worth the gamble.
Unfortunately, there are other unresolved issues here, too. It is widely believed that the reason Dr. Reid took a back seat on the political front is that the newspapers have a particularly strong story "in the locker", ready to print should he again seem poised for high office.
If we think the Scottish press will now accord him the niceties of protocol granted to high-ranking politicians, we are kidding ourselves...
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Could not have put it better myself Paul...
The perfect denoument... Freudian? Perhaps..
Well Done Bhoys especially Aiden and Super Mac.....
silverlining csc
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Paul,nae problem,was expecting more than that!!
Maybe you are cutting me a bit of slack because naebody is here!!!
Fancy that.
Nae Sean South,Nae Shelbourne,Nae.....Carfincarp???Where is he hiding?
Thought he would be out to abuse Lee Naylor by now.
In the Dark? must be busy eh?
Suppose he is shi(oops sorry)himself about his thirteen figure bet!!
Don't actually think it was that bad a result for them.
And I am not being facetious.
Will be a difficult place to go.
Mark "the bullet" McGhee is nae mug when it comes to coaching
And I think the score today was a pleasant surprise.
This mob are nae mugs either.
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I should add...The Italians are coming...and everything is going Right...
I mean evrything....
Even the BBC after a caller was told by Traynor that he would love to talk about JR and his part in that 'regime' but he is not allowed too... This is a football forum called your call....titter at irony (Traynor...not me...)
The caller rightly pointed out that the fans have been keeping politiucs out of paradise...It was a certain decision that brought it crashing back in...
line goes dead...
Strange days indeed.....
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as soon as the final whistle went at fir park today
rob mclean proclaimed, that "celtic could square it"
if we beat dundee utd.
here was us thinking we were back on top.
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Hungry worker home from the hills, pops the ring pull on his second Carling and heads to computatioanl device. Alack, alas there seems no goals link and we're nearly at 7 bells. Or has the site been braced by the high heid yins?
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Or are the usual trollers and linkers oot getting smashed after a comprehensive win?
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indeed, celtic fc have requested that we do not show
links for goals.
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few points
media on defences
huns - iron curtain/fortress ibrox
us - ropey - worst since mcgrory
who has the better defensive record ?
how many goals have celtic lost in the league at CP ?
media on forwards
boyd - could do more but worth his wait in goals/gold
jvoh - could do more - period.
who has scored more ?
celtic fans last year -
we want more goals, style etc
celtic fans this year -
we need to tighten up
who needs the media
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UM,
the high heid yins have been active in requesting no links to "unofficial" brodcasts of the game.
However,the lack of links is largely down to one Noel90's desertion from here.
The thumb print oan his heid must be like a hammer dent.
Poor wee guy.
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Great result today.
Delighted for SMcD. Bodes well for Wednesday.
Also delighted for Lee Naylor that he came onto a decent game. Im not sure who it was that posted earlier (lets just say it was you Kano) who said the man never hides and takes pelters from the stands etc well if he had a good one its only right he be credited for it.
Rolling on nicely to Wednesday, League leaders, champions v AC Milan. Not bad. Killen in for Jvoh.
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Spikeys auld man.
Now,you have been told before.
We can't have people on here being sensible.
There is no angle in what you say to have a go at the board,the manager,or Lee Naylor.
Please stop posting that stuff.
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Paul,how come you are not at the famed B.Bs?
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Just seen Sean South and Neg Anon down the pub celebrating our win - they told me to pass on their best regards to the board - top of the league Ma! OK somebody said it earlier - just like the sound of it.
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But isn't an 'unnofficial' representation in the public domain anyway, literally in the ether?
That is a shame. They do not control the web - they were the last ones to get it. Decades after the weirdos and the geeks and the techie heads started us on the highway. Now it's corporate right up the ronson.
Paul, say it ain't so?
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Hoopla,
I think the reason he retired was that he and Gordie are not best mates. He saw there was no future for him and jumped before he was pushed.
Kano, your post doesn't make a lot of sense, but to address a couple of issues. You say JR being a "war criminal" is a statement of fact. Really? Can you point to the court, British or otherwise, in which this was debated, in which JR could defend himself, and in which this decision was arrived at? No? Thought not. But it's ok to slander a man if it fits your political agenda isn't it?
So many of the Left (I'm guessing that's where you are from, or at least you think you are from) bleat incessantly about fair trials, due process etc etc but then are quite happen to pronounce Soviet-style summary justice on those with whom they disagree. In a ill-designed banner as well.
As for a schism- Reid is the Celtic chairman and has, despite your "fact" NOT been proved or tried as a war criminal, and it is me who is bringing the club into disrepute by pointing this out to the Bolshevik tendency in the support? Give me a break.
As for me saying politics has nothing to do with the club, I have posted before that in reality Celtic FC was founded on explicitly Thatcherite principles of charity- ie, let the voluntary organisations of good moral standing like the Catholic Church tend to the welfare of the poor. It saves the state actually having to do anything about it.
It's just a thought, but so many people today don't actually think about politics, government etc. They just read a column by charlatans like George Galloway and Tommy Sheridan and take their student union half-baked theories as gospel.
But if it makes you feel better, go for it.
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Not bigging up my own (outstanding) posts here, but one earlier snippet which seemed to get lost...
Dida apparently confirmed as out for Wednesday - shoulder injury.
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Yaaaaasss!
Damn Virgin Broadband to hell.
Aiden was superb in the 2nd half today.
Nice to see him play on his natural side -just for a change.......
Scott McDonald was 6foot tall when he came off today.
A week is a hell of a long time in football.
Bring on The European Champions.
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corrib04 - going by what I've seen so far of Killen, there's no way I would start with him on Wednesday.
If JVoH is definately out, then I would go 4-5-1 or 4 in middle with Aiden playing off Skippy.
Riordan hasn't done anything to warrant inclusion either.
Donati is concerning me in the SPL, but maybe Milan at home is just what he needs to bring out the best in him.
Kano - I have no appetite for getting involved in the JR debate, but as he's about to become our chairman then I've got to ask - where are you drawing the line on war criminals within the democratically elected government personnel?
Of course, blindly following the Yanks into Iraq was a monumental and shameful blunder, but where does the buck stop?
I see a man who was used as a troubleshooter brought in to sort out problematic government departments as being well equipped to handle the various forces arrayed against our club.
TTTT
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Italiabhoy
Your comments earlier about "idiots"among our support daring to criticise our new chairman are way out of order.
I would direct you to 2 excellent articles on Etims about this appointment .
John Reid, in my opinion, is not fit to take up his post as Celtic chairman. His views on immigrants do not sit well as the chairman of a club founded by immigrants for immigrants. Were the Irish of the 1800s not the same as the Eastern Europeans and Africans of the 2000s, only trying to better themselves and provide a better life for their families.
And as for his association to the unjust and immoral war in Irag, I need say no more. I would be proud as a Celtic fan if there were a few more idiots protesting at his appointment.
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Due to the miserable jobsworths at Celtic Park-
the goals have been posted on my blog.
Click on my user name to access it.
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Italiabhoy -
To dismiss those supporters who believe the custodians of their club should conform to certain moral principles as left-wing, student politicians, idiots etc - or even as politically-motivated - is (1) Non-factual and (2) Insulting.
I think I should point out that there are a number of people on this blog, even non-political types like myself, currently having to exercise extreme restraint in their language about John Reid - and who are, for the sake of unity, holding back the full expression of the disgust they feel at this appointment.
If you could exercise a modicum of restraint yourself, I would be very grateful. So soon after the bombing of an urban civilian population, I am sure you can see that this issue is a potential powderkeg: and wading in describing folk you don't really know as Bolsheviks and worse is not really an appropriate way to handle it.
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noel 90
if WEE SCOTT was 6 foot tall he `d be in the Milan team on wed :¬)
JUST BACK FROM THE GAME
a lot of positives
JJPD was very solid and his distribution was good ,worked hard
Aiden ..Cubist said it earlier " tux and a cane " ..sublime
Hartley was solid and grafted away , looks good lying deep in the centre
Naylor was solid and worked hard
only downside
Caldwell is not good , thinks he`s a ball player , he`s not and his defending is questionable
donati didn`t look up for it , but i`ll take big show from him on wed
WORST OF ALL WAS THE EFFING REFEREE
as has been stated above ...worse than ineptitude .....blatant cheating
from two sets of standards for tackles and fouls
to the most ridiculous offside decisions
those who were at the game will know what i mean
ABSOLUTLEY SHOCKING
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Italiabhoy.
As you are obviously not some sort of cretin.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt,and assume you are well aware that there has never been a "victor" that appeared in any kangaroo court you may wish to set up.Guilt,with government ministers,only occurs with the vanquished ones.
The fact that that this guy has not been brought up on charges in a British court does not change facts.
The killing of innocent civilians is a "war crime".
This is true,regardless of court proceedings.
This man,as a member of a cabinet which approved these actions is guilty of it.
If you see a man being shot in the head in the street.
Is the guy with the gun guilty of shooting him?
Or do you require a court.
I make no statements to the punishment he should receive.
That I will leave to a court.
But if you feel he must never be guilty,due to the fact that he will never appear in a court,due to the fact that who he represents is more powerful than the court that wishes to try him,then I am afraid it is your sense of justice and fairness which is skewed.
Just as you have proved with your outrageous similarity of Thatcher and Brother Walfrid.
The sole reason the man was forced into doing what he did(and I mean way above and beyond a mere football club)is because people like Thatcher existed in powerful positions.
How you can equate what the man was about as some type of Thatcherite thinking,really,takes the biscuit.
Let me see,from you we have had,the following.
Only fat people who eat chips,who therefore couldn't point to Ireland on a map,sing rebel songs.
Maybe,some Celtic fans,just like the idea of the Union,and being part of Britain.
I could go back through your vitriol against our manager as well,but I cannae be bothered.
But the one that beat it all is Brother Walfrid was nothing more than a Thatcher disciple.
He only wore robes for the fashion.
Jesus Christ man.
What the hell are you?
If you say what you say to get a reaction,well done.
If you say what you say because that is the way you actually fell.
I am sorry for you man,cos you need serious treatment.
No,really,for the good of yourself,your family,and anybody who has anything to do with you on a personal level.
Go to a doctor man.
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Sorry hoopla it's not me throwing around the unfounded slanderous allegations.
I have little respect for the people holding that banner for so many reasons- factual inaccuracy, slander, and being, in Lenin's word, "useful idiots". I bet the editor of the Record is a happy man tonight.
We are not a political party, we are a football club. If you don't like JR's politics, fine, it's a free country.
But if you view that banner as reasoned, fair, balanced, and legitmate argument, then I honestly think it is you who has the problem and needs to "show restraint" not me.
As for devising some sort of politically acceptable set of views to be Celtic chairman... I despair, I really do...
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Kano,
Once again your post strives and just fails to reach the level of mediocre. Keep trying. Also slightly creepy that you can repost my posts from yonks ago...
For the record, I have never posted "vitriol" about WGS- I actually quite like him, like the majority of the support I suspect.
I'm off to the cinema now, so apologies for no further response this evening. I doubt however you will manage to put two coherent thoughts together worht responding to between now and midnight anyway.
buona notte
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Beg your pardon Italiabhoy?
You don't seem to have any problem throwing them about when it suits you.
Will refer to my earlier post with regards the fat gut with the chips.
God the hypocrisy.
Non political?
My sphincter.
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off topic but anyone with a good knowledge of computers out there?
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Italiabhoy,a good memory is one of the things i pride myself on.
Particularly,when it comes to people offending me or my people.
Instead of criticising my "level" of post,why not answer the salient points?
As I said,there is nothing "creepy" about reminding you of what type of person you are.
I like to know who I am talking to.
And with you,I know the likes of you far better than you would like me to.
Enjoy your movie.
I will assume it will not be the John Pilger movie?
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Bloke109.I would suggest you do not start with that nonsense.
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Hi, Just back from the Dub's but only had a couple, Docs orders, no, not that one! .........Anyway, don't like the JR appointment nor playing players out of their natural and effective position......... Rememeber my Da saying "that bhoy looks like a right winger (in football terms) or a centre half just by the way he carries himself" .......nothing in it eh!
Well,
my previous and current thoughts below........ as we/they say in these parts............What to say, what to do???
Nobody has the monopoly on correct/right opinion.....well maybe Estadio, Kano, WG and Ted; I jest ok, just enjoy the diversity........
At 25/09/07 12:17, TheBarcaMole said…
Hi Kano how goes it? Had a beer with Paul the other day......... Gearing up for Bali? Good Luck
Re-visiting right is right and left is left in order to get to the by-line and get crosses in!!!!!!! As I feel that we may see the best of JVOH and our other strikers and even the ball attacking midfielder ala Paul Hartley in Moscow.
As it is now, it is too narrow and predictable although having plenty of possession and looking neat and tidy until we run out of ideas and the opposition have all got back behind the ball ergo the inevitable angled 40 yard out cross............ Anyway, probably leave this particular drum alone now as I think I've made my opinion clear!!!
TBM
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bloke109
what two games would that be then?
during the seventies or eighties
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Start with that nonsense Kano?
Sorry but I'm disgusted with IRA add-ons to songs still being sung. If you delight in it fair enough.
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TBM,
ye better believe it.
Bali....
Just the word,makes me shiver a wee bit
No long now.
Why don't you come over for a pint of red?
You are more than welcome my friend.
Ye can bring big Tam Gemmel if ye like as well!!!!
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Gawd,I missed an L out there
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hail hail
Nice comment, but sadly inaccurate. I was at Dundee on Wednesday and Dundee United today and heard ooo-ahh up the RA. If oyu didn't, fair play.
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Bloke109,I don't.
Just don't see the similarities!!!
Cheers
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Kano
Ok - apologies.
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bloke109
you are talking crap their are no iRA adds at celtic park. least not collectively, not even the odd individual and there hasn't been for at least three or four years. where are you getting this stuff
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antsman,yeah,when you buy one you get a telly and a printer and a big box which makes the telly work.
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Kano,
TG won't mind the missing L, it happens regularly; would really really love to make Bali but the docs have told me to put off flying for now..............I'm fine really, for now though have plans for the ossie convention and apart from the ME sand dancers, TG and the gang say they might go via the Dubs.....watch this space or maybe Paul will update you.....Keep fighting the fight pal. Take care, all the best to you and yours.
Hail Hail
TBM
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Unfounded:-groundless:baseless.
Not something you could say about what I have said in regards to John Reid
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ItaliaBhoy said...
"Sorry hoopla it's not me throwing around the unfounded slanderous allegations."
No, but you're doing not bad with the insults.
"If you don't like JR's politics, fine, it's a free country."
I don't really see what more I need to do to make it clear that my strong feelings on this issue are humanitarian and non-political. Perhaps the latter term does not mean much to a certain type of person - indeed, perhaps both terms don't mean much.
However, neither my own posts, nor the banner at the match, seem to me to be political in their content. As for the deeper motivation of the banner-wielders, I am in the dark on that one - as are you. I will give them the benefit of the doubt, and assume they are simply squeamish, and object to the bombing of women and children.
You mention that they are doing the devil's (newspapers') work for him. Perhaps, but please bear in mind that this cuts both ways.
I hope you enjoy your film, and are not moved to stand up and start shouting if you detect some covert political position contrary to your own.
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Slander:-False report maliciously uttered to person's injury.
Can't see anything false in what I have said.
The slaughter of thousands of innocents during his "watch" is not false.
It is a matter of historical accuracy.
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Most recent posts jolted a memory...
Standing up at the end of films......... Now, there's a blast from the past!!!!!
Uncomfortable in those surroundings TBM
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I've had the privilege of meeting John Reid on a number of occasions at Celtic Park in past years.
If the truth be told I'd rather regard John as a friend and fellow Celtic supporter (not part time fan) than many of you ignorant idiots who have been spouting your vitriol over the past 24 hours.
Shame on all of you.
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I thought that in the second half today ,Aiden McGeady had his best 45 mins in a first team shirt.
I believe this was because he was played on his natural side.
He got in behind the defence and delivered killer final balls.
Something that he has not done enough of in my opinion.
(Aiden apart)I didn't think that we played that well until the second goal went in.
DU lost a bit of fight, and we gained in confidence.
When we play Milan we cannot give away possession so cheaply.
We are top of the league, so that makes for an excellent weekend.
P.S Arthur's save at 1-1 was as vital as the goals.Well done big man.You are the best shop stopper in the world.Just don't let it got to your head .
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tinytim, have to disagree with you as I think my 'significant other' is the best....... as she has stopped shops in Manila, Dublin, Cebu, Glasgow, Stirling, Ayr, Dunblane, London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon and Norwich to date.......... LOL
TBM
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Eldiegobhoy - so anyone who disapproves of your good friend John Reid's appointment is an ignorant idiot
"It is unfair that foreigners come to this country and steal our benefits, steal our services like the NHS and undermine the minimum wage by working."
Do you think those words are worthy of the chairman of a club, founded by immigrants for immigrants ?
They sound like the words of the very people our great club was formed in response to.
I'd rather be an ignorant idiot than a friend of John Reid.
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Allegation:-Statements made or advanced as facts,esp without proof.
Italiabhoy,you with the Grandfather who can break your racist laws of what constitutes nationality.
Sorry once again,the proof is there for all to see.The man was in charge at the time,(remember the Nurenburg trials,saying"he told me" is no defence)and is responsible.
Do you need a court for Robert Mugabe?
Or Idi Amin?
Or Hugo Chavez?
Or P.W. Bothe?
Or Vladimir Lenin?
Or Salvadore Allende?
Or Augusto Pinochet?
Or Ernesto Guevara?
Or George Bush?
We can watch Caucescu be shot in the head.He went through a "court case".
We can see you tube videos of Saddam Hussein being hanged.He went through a "court case"
We watch the bloody results everyday of this man's decisions,and you ask me about "unfounded slanderous allegations'?
Sorry,but because the guy represented your beloved "union" does not make him able to order the death of innocent civilians with impunity for the political expediency of supporting his mate over the Atlantic.
A mate,I may add,who really,isn't somebody whose lead you should be following,cos he doesn't know where it is going.
I don't think the guy should be associated in any way with Celtic.
If Dermot wants him,Dermot should hire him.
The other one looks like the appointment to actually replace Brian Quinn.
And John Reid is obviously some kind of "P.R. "coup""
Good gawd.
No doubt I will be seen to be making things worse,well by the holder of all things proper anyway.
If we are going to have people on our board for other reasons than there business acumen(which John Reid does not appear to have much of),then we should have ex players like Danny McGrain and Bertie Auld on there.
At least these guys have the experience of working for a team,instead of blindly following a "leader",purely because he was the most popular,then running away when the one you followed disappears.
Sounds like just the right man to move us "forward"
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TT,agree,re Aiden,(though maybe not his finest).
And Artur.
Only seen the last 35 minutes.
Was Paul Hartley any good?
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So the monkeys have comical Ally and we have John Reid.......No, I know, not funny but surreal...... and I am tempering as best as I can my feelings re this issue; the question though is - Where are they taking OUR Celtic?
TBM
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Kano - great call; RA or DFM.
TBM
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cardiffbhoy
Grow up.
EDB
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EDB,
bring on the shame.
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at the game today for the first time in 3 years due to working abroad.i thought standard of celtic team was poor.i think we have three midfielders trying to play in the same central midfield position..i thought atmosphere was flat and def not standard of 2003/2004 team..JVOH i believe something very wrong with his attitude?
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Kano
Simmer doon ma guid frien!
Tell me whit's wrang wi' Mr.Reid?
Ah'll pit ye rit noo oan da spoat, an' ask...
Who fur Chairman wid ye pick insteed?
Ye hiv bin tole dis line afore...
But ah'll repeat it... even at da risk o' bein' a Bore!
Dinna mak a Comparison wit' ither People...
it's very bad logic...
In fact it maks me Snore!
If ye dinna approve o' Mr. Reid,
den TROAT OOT, yer facts.... an' ah Mean F-A-C-T-S!!!!!!
Ah dinna want a bunch o'.... "it looks tae me, like he"... or ..."He wiz responsible fur thoosands tae dee!"
Stick tae da Facts, man...Da Facts....
Tae judge a Man oan wit' canny be proved...
IS DOPEY, IT'S Da Type o' nonsense...
Dat can get ye Darn well SUED!
Noo,ah am here tae be convinced...
Gie us a sensible argument...instead o' a load o' mince!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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collie
r u fae larkhaw????
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tom
interesting comments from a fan who hasn't seen them for a while.
i agree about the midfield its not as it should be, and
thought both brown and donati, are very subdued
in comparison to earlier in the season. i don't think its VOH's attitude, i think its more an ability thing.
the atmosphere for home league games is well established as being flat, compared with e.g. the early MON years
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Kano
Have you been up all night. Get to bed man .
Great result today. If Scott MacDonald can add goals to his excellent all round play, like today he'll be one helluva striker.
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OK, it's past midnight here and I am weary......... so to bed.......we don't have to like each other cos we are all Tims; Ted excepted, and I think he sounds like an OK guy to me..........
Politics, feelings, logistics, roles, family, 'neighbourhoods' etc. all give us that sense of being that brings us together along with our love of the Celtic but that in essence doesn't mean we have to become 'Stepford Tims CSC' and relinquish our long or newly held beliefs because some toe rag is, and I quote...'wan ae us'... Obviously, some out there reading this ever so slightly drink addled missive have realised that I know and like/respect a few of the people on here
...............Well!!!!!!! to refresh, the bonus (for me) is that they are Celtic Supporters. We may well be TGFITW but we do not have a monopoly on goodness/friendship.......
So in closing - John Reid WTF.....
can almost make an anagram of Jerome 30/09
TBM
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Mr Reid
Welcome. Delighted to have you on our side.
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Collie,
Shrewd move by Celtic and Dermot Desmond. Mr Reid will take no snash of nobody.
Longer term i think the beneifts could be huge. WGS always being banging on about how they can't get talent from Africa, South America because of the work permit issues. Maybe having a former Home Secretary on board may help lobby the argument. Don't forget his contacts throughout the world.
I think Celtic and Dermot in particular should be congratulated on this. It's an excellent move.
Scott McDonald. The boy is grabbing the opportunity that WGS has given him. He is desperate to be a success and succeed at Celtic. Have to say i have been impressed with his performances and attitude. If keeps this up then i reckon Celtic have just bought a snip. Got to remember he still only 23 and still got more to learn.
Things can only get better for this guy i think. Has to keep up his hard work though and not rest on his laurels. Somehow i don't think he will. His work rate is second to none.
RE: Killen. I think if he does play on Wednesday then he could potentially be the man to suprise AC with. Nesta and Co don't like playing against big guy's that rough it up. Could do a job.
WGS has options he could go 1 up with McDonald as the boy could handle that role with ease considering his hold up play and play Aiden behind.
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Collie,
Shrewd move by Celtic and Dermot Desmond. Mr Reid will take no snash of nobody.
Longer term i think the beneifts could be huge. WGS always being banging on about how they can't get talent from Africa, South America because of the work permit issues. Maybe having a former Home Secretary on board may help lobby the argument. Don't forget his contacts throughout the world.
I think Celtic and Dermot in particular should be congratulated on this. It's an excellent move.
Scott McDonald. The boy is grabbing the opportunity that WGS has given him. He is desperate to be a success and succeed at Celtic. Have to say i have been impressed with his performances and attitude. If keeps this up then i reckon Celtic have just bought a snip. Got to remember he still only 23 and still got more to learn.
Things can only get better for this guy i think. Has to keep up his hard work though and not rest on his laurels. Somehow i don't think he will. His work rate is second to none.
RE: Killen. I think if he does play on Wednesday then he could potentially be the man to suprise AC with. Nesta and Co don't like playing against big guy's that rough it up. Could do a job.
WGS has options he could go 1 up with McDonald as the boy could handle that role with ease considering his hold up play and play Aiden behind.
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Protest against the appointment of John Reid as chairman of Celtic Football Club. Sign the online petition at:
www.gopetition.com/online/14473.html
Hail Hail!
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pawnshop
Go away.
EDB
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EDB
Leaving aside what John Reid has or hasnt done in his time as one of Tony's little helpers can you, or anyone, tell me what he has in his cv that would make hima candidate to be chairman of a large football plc.
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Michael
I was almost tempted to come up with a form of words that would somehow make me feel interested in the point scoring exercise you are trying to pervay. Goodnight from me.
EDB
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Pawnshop - thanks for the link
EDB - if you disagree with someone that's fair enough, but "grow up" and "go away" - , hardly the most eloquent of arguments.
Even your mate John Reid was better on Newsnight with Paxman.
WGS - I suppose it's better that we get a few cheap Brazilians in than a few dead bodies in Iraq.
And I suppose immigrants will be ok as long as they are good enough to play for Celtic.
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Don't quite see the reason for the indignation at John reid becoming chairman.
The warmongerer tag is nothing short of nonsensical to me although perhaps some of his coments can be read as slightly 'extreme' (small e).
However is it worth considering that a career politician and long term caniet member and government minister would consider being our chairman.
That must be great testamant to the way the club is run.
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cardiffbhoy-you quoted John Reidas saying "It is unfair that foreigners come to this country and steal our benefits, steal our services like the NHS and undermine the minimum wage by working."
That was very naughty of you missing out the word "illegally" between "country" and "and" just to suit your agenda. Poor show.
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EDB
It was actually a genuine question.I like others have probvlems with what is in John Reids past but I am also interested why anyone would think that he has enough in his locker to overlook these things and make him chairman of Celtic.
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DiegoBhoy...
Here is a story dat Fargo loves to tell....
So ah'll pass it oan tae you,so you kin contemplate it, as well.
An American Jew in Israel..
Asked an Israeli,who was passin' By...
"I Am on my way to the WAILING WALL.
How long will it take me to get there, give me your estimated call."
The Israeli, looked at him, and came to a sudden stop.
And just stood there.... and continued to stare at him,just like a New York Cop.
"Well, my friend," said the New York Jew, What's your answer.
I wish to know?"
The Israeli did not answer, but just stood there,
as befo.
In exasperation, the New York Jew,
strode impatiently away.
After he had walked a few more steps...
He heard these words... and they were clear as day!
"Ten Minutes" instructed the Israeli man, who was still standing there,by the way.
The New York Jew, was not mollified.. he was angry, at this delay,
"Why did ye not answer me much sooner?....
Are you some kind of a Bloody Gooner?
A New York Jew would answer me, without a fuss... in fact, he'd do it ....right away!"
Then, Came... the Logic revealed in the Answer..which he now thought was rather Cool...
It made him feel like a silly boy...in fact,
A GORDAMN FOOL!
"I HAD TO SEE HOW FAST!...THAT YOU WALKED,FIRST!"
The moral or this STORY, is sticking out a Mile!
See how a man PERFORMS WHEN ON THE JOB!
It won't take long to see, if he is Able or a Slob!
Before,you protest against his selection...an' more importantly.......
BEFORE YE GO YER MILE!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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I have lifted this from tommorrows Sunday herald.
Good news for Celtic as a big beast enters the Jungle
By Ian Bell
COLUMNIST OF THE YEAR
FEW PEOPLE in politics ever underestimated John Reid, and he was never one of them. In office, he had the sort of self-confidence you probably need if you intend to be a Roman Catholic, Celtic-supporting secretary of state for Northern Ireland. Dr Reid is what polite folk like to call combative.
His appointment as the Parkhead chairman certainly marks a change of style for the club. Brian Quinn, with his financial models and his quiet Bank of England self-assurance, did the business, literally. Celtic are in fine shape. But let's just say that picking a way through a balance sheet is not Reid's forte.
Nor is it his habit to be shy, self-effacing, or a figurehead. You don't battle terrorists at the Home Office just to turn into an amiable buffer in the VIP box. You don't go blow for rhetorical blow with Jeremy Paxman just to trade sweet nothings with the Scottish sporting press.
advertisementCome to that, you don't spend time at the Ministry of Defence polishing nuclear warheads if you think a confrontation with the SFA could be a bit daunting.
Reid has a quick mind, and is quick to speak it. This isn't to say that he will set out to create fireworks in the Scottish game. Heaven forbid. But if Celtic's interests are at stake, the man variously labelled a bruiser, a tough nut, and (by Paxman) a "pit bull" can be relied on for a rapid reaction.
Celtic fans will like that, I suspect. Reid will have the people's vote in the bag the first time he declares the football authorities "not fit for purpose". If continental policing is not to his taste the man who recently had charge of crack anti-terror squads might have a few words to say. Make that a lot of words.
He should not be caricatured, however. True, he sometimes gives the impression that he would rather pull out his own teeth with pliers than admit he might be wrong, but in football that's merely the definition of a chairman. Reid, as his numerous ministerial jobs showed, was the safest pair of hands in Tony Blair's team. That should just about qualify him for the Parkhead job.
His appointment is a coup for Celtic, however you look at it. This is an authentic heavyweight. If all concerned grasp the opportunity, in fact, his arrival could also be a coup for the Scottish game. If lobbying is required, Reid has a contacts book beyond price. There is no one in government, north or south of the border (with the possible exception of Gordon Brown), who would not return his call.
Reid, all agree, does not suffer fools gladly. On the face of it, that makes his new career in football an odd choice, but perhaps no odder than his devotion to Blair. Yet the doctor, with his PhD in history from Stirling University, will understand as well as anyone that a great deal of ancient foolishness - the polite description - still surrounds the Old Firm, despite the best efforts of the clubs.
It will not be part of his job description, but as the public face of Celtic FC, and with a noted political career to his name, Reid will be expected to be at the forefront of the continuing battle against sectarianism. He is likely to relish the challenge, and understand better than most what is at stake.
He has his experience in the Northern Ireland office to call on, for one thing. Aiding peace in the province and bringing civilised values to parts of Glasgow are, one might think, two faces of the same coin. But Reid has another relevant distinction, of which he remains deeply proud.
The doctor was the first Roman Catholic to become Secretary of State for Scotland. He undoubtedly appreciated the honour for its own sake, but he would not have been human if he had not stopped to wonder why it took quite so long for one of his faith to achieve the office. In this regard, and for whatever reason, Scotland still has a way to travel. Everyone with any sense knows it.
He will start work at Parkhead in November at the behest of Dermot Desmond, obviously enough. Reid may be his own man, but like Quinn before him he will act, ultimately, on behalf of Celtic's biggest shareholder. Unless the Irish tycoon has something unprecedented up his sleeve, that means the club's business will be conducted much as before.
Peter Lawwell, chief executive, will continue to keep costs under control, Gordon Strachan will continue to cut his cloth accordingly, and a section of the support will continue to be dismayed by perceived penny-pinching. Reid, in short, has not been given licence to launch a spending revolution. Celtic will continue to be a strange mixture of romance, ruthlessness, and dull prudence.
It will be Reid's job to give the club their public face, to embody their historic identity, and to negotiate fiercely - his chief strength, obviously - when negotiations at home and in Europe are required. Already "Celtic-minded" to the fibre of his being, he will need to become Celtic's voice.
That should be fun. Reid does not, shall we say, cringe at the sound of his own words. Adept at knocking heads together - a necessary skill in a chairman - he is less well-known for the smooth diplomatic phrase. This is not to say that he will pick fights. But running away from a scrap is not known to be in his nature.
Still, his appointment, like Quinn's before it, is testimony to the extraordinary cachet of Celtic and the loyalty the club command. Former deputy governors of the Bank of England, like former ministers of the Crown, do not often waste their time living out boyhood dreams. The Celtic "family" is as persuasive as the Mafia.
Fans should think of it this way. Less than a year ago Reid was widely regarded as Gordon Brown's chief rival to succeed Blair. Instead, the doctor will take charge at Celtic. As compliments go, that's not at all bad.
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CardiffBhoy,
Below the belt shot
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John_H
Apologies, i lifted the quote directly from another site and I can assure you I made no editing to it to suit any agenda.
The word "illegally" makes little difference to the underlying sentiments of Mr Reid's comments. As I said earlier, the Irish in Scotland in the 1800s were welcomed with similar attitudes and that is why I do not consider Mr Reid a suitable choice as the chairman of our club.
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Thoroughly bored with those taking the moral high ground re John Reid's appointment.
Tiny Tim....spot on regarding Aiden's excellent contribution today.I would further suggest that the more he played through the middle in the latter part of the game the better he became.
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John H .
Well done.
I read Cardiffbhoys post ,and i was not impressed with what he Mr Reid had stated.
I stupidly took the post as being accurate.
Thanks for correcting the matter.
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WGS - apologies if i offended you. but it wasnt intended as a below a belt shot, just a simple statement of fact.
I seem to recall there was more outrage at Jock Brown's appointment, because we thought he was a hun !!
To steal Barcelona's tag line - Celtic - More than a club.
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Cardiffbhoy
Ilm afraid you are a mile out with your comparison of the Irish in the 19th Century and the european immigrants of the modern age.
Without wishing to develop a political disagreement the 'illegal' part of John Reid's statement is very relevant to the whle context of the comment.
Thegodfathernewlabourcsc. . .
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jeromek 67.
Yes, he did have some great( Georgi Kinkladze) penetrating runs in the latter stages of the game.
I want to see much more of this from him.
I do not remember him ever before hitting a first time ball of such quality ,as he did for SMcD's third goal.It was Beckhamesque.
Alan Thomson did not have his close control ,but he hurt teams with his passing and crossing.I want to see more of this from Aiden.
Aiden seems to want too many touches on the ball, and does not lift his head to see what pass is on ,often enough.
Today he was bright ,alert ,pacey ,and had a final ball.
He was also played on his natural side.
I hope that this is the start of some consistant performances from him.
He lacks a good footballing brain at times.
I hope this is the start of him getting one ,and learning when to part with the ball ,and when to hold on to it,and when and in what area to take on opponents.
He can ge great.
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Regarding John Reid.
I cannot agree with the comments from those geographically west of Gods Green Acre i.e. Clydebank, on the suitability of said individual as our Chairman.
His "previous" should have been enough to render him "not fit for Office"
Opinions eh,
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PoliticsQuickNews or what?
Regardless of what has gone on in the last few years, JR was required to follow an agenda defined by the man above.
Anyone disagreeing with his appointment should take a quick tour of Gulf / Middle East nations before making glib comments sanitised by BBC/CNN journalism.
Eyes will be opened!!!
Time to get back to football.
Whos's marking Kaka?
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Jonnybhoy
Clydebank as Gods Green Acre?
Even New Labour couldn't spin that. . . .
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Tiny Tim
Is dat noo da Chance, dat ah wished wid fa'?
Tae OOR best, ALTERNATE CENTER, o' dem awe!
He is a Striker, plain an' no so simple,
Ah much prefer him, anyway ...tae Jan....
Even tho' he disnae hae, a Stylish Dimple!
Macko and Deeko.... whit a pair,an'dey hiv, Flair!
Dey are real Nippy! an' Tricky...
No Clumsy, like an Ayrshire Tottie, bouncin' doon a Widden Stair!
Dat's whit is da Dream Team dat we Yearn...
Insteed, o' Pairin' Macko, wi' dat Big an' Clumsy... PACHYDERM!
So, cam oan Gordo, my Wee Chiel...
GIE US A STRIKING FORCE, WHICH AH THINK IS DA REAL DEAL!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Strange game today.
Some turgid stuff in the first half then more alert in the second.
Positives for me where Doumbe who played very well, hartley quite but efective. Aiden some great crosses and of course skippy. Even naylor was solid which was good to see.
Only negatives are the obvious injury to JVOH, caldwell thinking he is beckanbaur and donatie who vanished for 70 minutes.
I would like to see us play 4-5-1 on wednesday as if both JVOH and naka are out i would play:
Boruc
Naylor
Doumbe
McManus
Caldwell
Donatie
Brown
Hartley
MCgeady
Riordan
McDonald
This is because i think it's to soon for killen and he is off the pace.
Here is hoping for donati to kick in to gear and 1-0 on wednesday.
Ps why do people leave so early. At 75 minutes people started streaming past me it must put the players off.
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MATCH REPORT
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celticlover,
could you please email me.
martinbrennan42@hotmail.co.uk
Cheers,
Martin
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Peace and good will to all.
I have composed a few comments on John Reid in the last 24 hours and deleted them.
Some remarks, such as Lochmoybhoy's at the end of the last thread, have been ridiculous in my view. He said he had lurked for two years and decided to use his first post to call John Reid "this odious, most hated man in UK politics".
Lord have mercy. Is this the same "UK politics" that encompasses Ian Paisley and his cohorts? Not to mention Nick Griffin?
However, I have reached this conclusion.
I think it speaks volumes for the Celtic support, as a collective, as a family, that we care so deeply about issues such as the war in Iraq. It's a huge tribute to Paul that CQN can be a platform for debating it.
We must continue to debate it. However, I would ask everyone to keep it civil.
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John Reid detractors go away he is going to be the next celtic chairman regardless of your political views
what happened to the OPEN celtic
on a more serious note we need all the political clout that we can muster to defend against the darnelist uprising
if the game today is anything to go by ( for those who were there) we need all the help we can get
the REF today was as bad as i have ever seen ...no doubt precipitated by the Fir park result
we are on the verge of dominating the great unwashed and they are not going to die quietly
JOHN RIED WELCOME
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JOHN REID -V- GORDON DUFFIELD SMITH
JOHN REID-V- SFA
no contest , these bar stewards hate us we should get in about them
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on killen today
not capable against milan
celtic first is correct
five man mid
personally ...................................where JJ
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23:24, Martin42
Your wish is my command!
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gweedore even
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Dropkick Murphys- Fields of Athenry.
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i'm not sure about some , only some, aspects of dr reids poilitics.....but in a lot of other respects he seems to have a lot going for him
for all those knocking john reid or questioning his credentials.....could you suggest an alternative for chairman.....and pleas no brian dempsey's or willie haugheys.....sensible suggestions only
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mr angry
the pogo at midnight has not gone down well here
i enjoyed it :¬)
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celticlover,
You got mail,
Cheers,
Martin
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mr angry -
Just a quick thank you for helping to calm me down before I head off to Happy Piggy Land.
I now have a huge grin on my gub!!
Clruy
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What a good Saturday it has been!
Back to the top on goal difference, should have been on points bar a soft penalty for Rangers.
Great result for Celtic courtesy of a good team display on the back of a superb performance by SMcD and some brilliant play from AMcG on the right side particularly in the second half - both deseved MOM champagne!
A clean sheet at the back courtesy of superb shot stopping once again by Boruc. JPDD was a success at RB, building on his good display last outing - a better RB than GC and I hope to see him start against AC Milan.
I was disappointed that JK was absent from the CB berth. I'm afraid GC and SMcM will be punished by AC Milan if they offer an opportunity remotely like that offered to Dunde United. Just as well Boruc had a get out of jail free card up his sleeve.
I'm still not convinced by CK but it is probably fair to say that he caused the Dundee Utd defence as much trouble as JVOH. A bit more competitive match practice and I fancy CK would have finished the 'sitter' that he missed. Looks like he will start against AC Milan, a big ask of a player given so little playing time in the first team.
However a good result today on the back of a good team performance. Let's get behind the team on Wednesday with a torrent of noise from start to finish. And remember, be patient!
C'mon the hoops
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A Scot
A Celtic man
A politician, one to be feared at that.
A tenacious, terrier like etc, etc, fighter who would not suffer fools gladly.
These are some comments used to describe all the positive attributes that will only benefit the Celtic cause.
Right, leaving aside for a moment his complicity in the humanitarian disaster that is Iraq.
Leaving aside the "illegal foreigner" comments that are so far removed from what I would expect of the Chairman of such an institution as Celtic.
Leaving all that aside. Yes, yes, quickly now. Best not to dwell. Wouldn't do at all. After all the greater good of Celtic is at stake, don't you know. Yes, Yes, good Celtic man, Coatbridge, St Pats no less, where is Iraq anyway, BBC 1 you say, turn it over to Hollyoaks.
(I could labour this point but if it didn't mean anything yesterday......)
Yes, leaving all that aside, how easy eh?
What, from the above "positive" descriptions could not be equally applied to George Galloway?
Calm down dear! Calm down!
I am not advocating gorgeous George. I would expect a backlash, a schism to quickly develop. This would be totally unproductive for the greater good of Celtic.
I use him as an example only. An opposite. Celtic claim to be Apolitical. Complete and utter b******t.
For all you people who hate and detest George Galloway, there are plenty who feel just as strongly about Dr Reid. But hey! That's politics. But Hey! We don't do politics, right?
The Board have acted with complete and utter arrogance and hypocrisy.
I don't want John Reid fighting Celtic's corner on any issue. NOT ONE.
No mandate here.
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barcabhoy
Brian Wilson would have been less controversial.
I fail to see how JR is going to be a political asset because of his contacts. He is despised by the current Prime Minister and, having retired from national politics, he has lost any of the fear factor influence which he could have wielded.
He only brings controversy to the table.
If, and its a huge if, he achieves some of the aims his supporters suggest he might, he may be considered an effective catalyst for Celtic FC's ambition but will he ever be a good man?
I deleted my previous post on the matter. I may well delete this in the morning too. JR's appointment is a fact until the November AGM. Only then will we see if it is a fait accompli.
If it is, I will go on supporting Celtic but a major part of the club will be a disappointment to me.
So be it. Life goes on.
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Hi paul,
A good result for you today and a not so good result for us. The see saw tips again and it looks like it could be one of those seasons that keep going right to the end. As long as the last tip of it moves us to the top I don't mind though it's bad for the heart.
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JOHN RIED DETRACTORS
COFFEE TIME ...WAKE UP
no one cares about your political views
he is going to be MR celtic support him ( your club) or don`t it`s one in the same bhoys
sactimonious bar stewards one and all
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Edward -
While I would never wish any real ill against my fellow man, I do hope that you and your fellow Gers supporters end the season utterly heart-broken due to the fact that you will have completed a third season in a row with no silverware.
Cluyr
fingerscrossed.csc
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pfayr
Wheh hey! A sheep in silks, now there's a thing!
You advocating blind loyalty, who'd have thunk it!
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Dr John Reid will be the chairman of the club that I love. I don't agree with some of the things he's done in the past but I'll judge him only from 19th November onwards. That's all.
Watchow from last night - Biased? Moi? Good to hear from you. Somehow thought that you'd appear back on here someday. Hope all is well with you and yours. I believe that an invite is on the way for the river next year.
Curly - I'm home for the foreseeable future so golf lessons are available at your leisure. A lady of Banff is also asking after you very keenly - I don't know who to be worried for most!
LFT
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Not a fan of New Labour politics and find alot of things in Dr John Reid's political decision making questionable at best but i also know that we all dont think alike and a healthy debate is to be encouraged.
For those that wish to get a feel for the type of decisions our new Chairman has had to make and how he comes to these decisions here are a few links.
John Reid before Defence Select Committee
John Reid on Human Rights Law
John Reid on the suspension of devolved goverment in the six counties
Story on John Reid's 'indirectness' when questioned
Have tried to provide some statements from when he was at various posts and a qualifier on his obvious media training. There is obviously a huge ammount of material on google about JR to support any arguement you wish to make about him.
I will try to put aside my reservations about his politics and judge him on his performance as Chairman of OUR Club.
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Have to agree with Monteblanco-
I do not feel comfortable with John Reid as chairman of Celtic.
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Lurcy :- And it should never be any other way :-)
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On 23/09/07 at 2109 kingoh said
"Edward
Don't bother acclimatising yourself to the heady heights. It won't last."
Mmmmmmm :-)
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“ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster “.
(Nietzsche) Beyond good and evil.
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Kingoh ;- I could say that it makes sense to acclimatise before going for the peak but it would be more truthful to admit we didn't deserve any more than we got today.
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Richard,
That's far to challenging for thos time!
LFT
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so what...dr. john reid is our chairman..i know a lot of folk in the occupied 6 counties at the time going...he's a tim (with a wry smile on their faces..knowing that he would do feck all for us but it would wind the huns any hoo :D )
he's a war criminal..he's this he is that..ffs..kano (sory mate but your name came to the fore as his biggest dissenter).what the feck has it got to do with celtic??? "oh he is our chairman so we are associated with his decisions round a table in fecking england..a table that is 3 foot lucky to be still standing ;) )
brian quinn was not as many mention one of the greastest chairmen of our club..he was the best ( was fergus, chairman???? )...we can all stand o our wee soap boxes and internet platrforms with our fancy words and piles of muck but if BQ says Dr, J is the chairman ..then what difference will it make to me..i couldn't give a flying cahoots..is he gonna bring the easy jet flight prices down between belfastr and glasgow?..that was such a rant :)))))
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Collie,you asked who else?
Who would be more suitable?
Ian Livingston.
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The exchanges on this blog about JR say a great deal about our culture... That context we all exist within.. About how civil it is, how informed it is and dare I say...how conditioned it is.
The Post of the Day was from Celtic_first..
23.30 Celtic_First...We must continue to debate it. However, I would ask everyone to keep it civil"...
Well said sir.... You would make a Great Chairman if I say so myself....Your advice/request is the cornerstone of any civilized forum/community where freedom of speech and opinion is respected and communicated. This is what stops it descending into chaos...
Those who have raised doubts, concerns or like me profound disappointment about the appointment of our new chairman have been pretty civil and diplomatic....I believe that sincerely. Unfortunately such concerns and opinions have been responded to today with the following comments...
'useful idiots'
'bolshevik tendency'
'ignorant idiots....shame on all of you'
'Grow up'
'FFS geezabreak.com'
'Go away'
'Thoroughly bored with those taking the moral high ground....'
'John Reid detractors go away....what happened to the OPEN celtic'
'John Reid detractors...No one cares about your political views....sanctimonious bar stewards one and all....'
The comments above, I would suggest, are not civil, but reactionary....They are, it could be argued, not unlike the communication method of the tabloid newspapers, television and other media ....... reactionary, emotional, sensationalist and lacking any attempt at rational analytical thought...
The most insightful post I will leave to last
Italiabhoy 19.05 said...It's just a thought, but so many people today don't actually think about politics, government etc.
EXACTLY Italiabhoy...EXACTLY.....YOU NAILED IT....
But you know what...
....Without it there is chaos....
Roll On The Furore....
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Martin42
You've got email.
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Italiabhoy,
you posted the following at 19.35 last night.
For the record, I have never posted "vitriol" about WGS- I actually quite like him, like the majority of the support I suspect
Have you missed this out of your "record"?
The board has made a calamitous mistake in appointing him, the best way is to remedy it asap.
Who is that man? I don't know. But in no other job would a performance like last night go unpunished. Yes the players are to blame, but WGS is the man who sends them out onto the pitch.
The buck stops with him.
Let's say cheerio before this turns into another John Barnes scenario.
If that is how you show your "liking" of a Celtic manager.
God help the man who gets the job and you take a "dislike" to.
"Level" of that post okay for you?
Not too high?
Or too low?
Just right for your "level" of intellect?
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Excitement mounting here in Sydney as the NRL final is almost upon us. Crowds are gathering outside the Telstra Stadium and in pubs and homes around the country to wath the Manly Sea Eagles take on Melbourne Storm.
Public holiday tomorrow so most people slightly tipsy ahead of being utterly blootered in a few hours.
Oh and Celtic are top of the league again.....
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I expect at some stage in the not too distant future we'll see a full enquiry into events in Iraq and Dr John's decisions will come under pretty close scrutiny.Of course when the enquiry takes place he'll be John Reid,Celtic chairman,rather than John Reid ex-cabinet minister
He is being made chairman because of his poltical activities;not because of his knowledge of the history of slavery.He has done some admirable things in his personal life,but politically he is associated with some of the greatest errors ever made by a British government.
John Reid-splitter
Anyways,on a happier note good 3 points from Carlisle on their wee jaunt down to sunny Bournemouth.Hoopslegend Paul Telfer
gifted the third goal to the Superblues.All of a sudden the third division is awash with Hoopslegends.
Anyways,some excellent performances yesterday,not least Aiden and Scotty2hotty.Panic in the streets of Mee-lan?No,but enjoyable none the less.
Only quibble I would have is width of pitch[which is like a billiard table]is not being fully utilised on the left as neither Brown,Donati nor Hartley are wide midfielders and we had no wide players on the bench
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Today is the anniversary of Ali v Frasier,the'Thrilla in Manila'.
Afterwards Ali said'JoeFrazier,I'll tell theworld right now,he brings out the best in me.I'm gonna tell ya,that's one helluva man,and God bless him'.
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At 30/09/07 01:11, lambosfrontteeth said…
Dr John Reid will be the chairman of the club that I love. I don't agree with some of the things he's done in the past but I'll judge him only from 19th November onwards. That's all.
LFT -
I will join you in that stance.
Curly - I'm home for the foreseeable future so golf lessons are available at your leisure. A lady of Banff is also asking after you very keenly - I don't know who to be worried for most!
LFT
Golf lessons will be gratefully received. It is my shout at Turra GC this time. Will have to get our previous fellow players along for the Autumn Cup! Would that be the "lady of Banff" we discussed previously in the Crown?
Drop me an e-mail sometime, and we can get the golf sorted out. You can also give me some added info on the other matter!
Lurcy
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dontbrattbackinanger
Thanks for the info on Leeds match. My intention is to get to Leeds and Forest matches but will probably be with my young son. They could certainly teach clubs up here how to win young fans with their ticket pricing - £4 for under 8's great value.
Anyway great win(s) yesterday.
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Kevtic-no problem.I usually go to the Beehive[the pub opposite the ground]before the game.
They let children in no bother.
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kojo 32.06
I gonna shock a lot of people here.
I am not convinced about Scott McDonald's ability to become a prolific goalscorer.
A striker who will consistantly score 25 goal's ,regularly per season.
I think that he will be prove to be an excellent piece of business.
However i think he is not composed enough for a top drawer striker.
I like his work rate and effort,and his final ball is good.
His goals will,form an important part of our season,however i want 50 goals from Celtic's forward pairing.
Lets wait and see.
JVOH is proving to be an injury prone player ,who despite being the size of Frankenstein,has the physical impact of Egor.
I am disappointed in what he has been bringing to the table.
Killen is not the answer either.
I have never thought of Deek and Scotty together.
If it were me i would go with Magic and Scotty on Wednesday.
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Curly-is this the young lady in question?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandi_Thom
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dbbia -
No, unfortunately!
Was that you displaying a wee bit of local (Banffshire) knowledge there, by linking the twin towns of Banff and Macduff. Have you been up this neck of the woods before, or did you simply Google Banff, see Macduff and remember Sandi Thom?
Ulryc
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Curly-blame Cafflick schools!or Wikipedia,which is the Cafflick school of the information super-highway.
I hear her new song is'I wish I was a flop-hired striker[from the former DDR]
To my shame I've never been further north than Balmoral[!]but it's in my to-do pile.
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ps hired=haired
Since DJR was appointed chairman my typing gone to pieces
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typing gone=typing has gone
Since DJR was appointed chairman my typing has gone to pieces.
And my grammar
I blame Paul Telfer
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Celtic videos on ebay
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dbbia -
I am afraid that I do not understand this "hair" stuff you mention. Perhaps I should check on Wikipedia for that?
Balmoral, eh? Well we all know who stays there. Up for tea and cucumber sarnies were you? Should we in future refer to you as Lord dbbia?
Curly (whoever he is)
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And another thing -
"flop-hired striker" - perhaps a description used by the anti-Kenny Miller brigade?
8-))
Lycur
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CardiffBhoy last night.
I agree with your sentiments about immigrants in history and now. An absolutely valid comparison to my mind. But, your mis-quote of John Reid was very, very poor. Done innocently or not.
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Tinytim
I agree regarding the word prolific but i think skippy will be a very good SPL striker and provide a decent foil to a top drawer player. He is only 23 so he has the future ahead of him so here is hoping for prolific in the future but like you i think his touch needs some work when in front of goal.
As regards Zurawski I have to disagree for me he is a busted flush, the epitomy of a one season wonder.
If e-tims is right he will be off in janury so if we are playing 2 up front on wednesday for me it's Deek and Skippy. Killen needs games and it should not be against AC Milan.
That said i think we can do a lot of damage with skippy up front puling defenders away while Adien, Brown, Donatie, Deek and Hartley run on through. I would obviously prefer if naka was fit but we can't have it all.
roll on wednesday can't wait for a game with an atmosphere. Yesterday was partially saved by the worst ref i have seen at parkhead in many years and there have been a few bad ones!!! It seemed to me that any contact was rewarded with a free kick against celtic.
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Morning all
Even in the Gorbals, the sun is breaking through and a warm glow is bathing the hushed morning air.
The beautiful and splendid songbirds of the sky are silent as they lie-in with a contented smirk, full stomach and twinkling eyes, while the nasty carrion crows kick the walls of their fetid nests in Govan's dark, lice ridden vaults of despair.
I think I'll have a wee pint today.
BTW some weeks ago when I first met Curly, I asked him what his real name was.
He turned to a long-standing friend of his and said
"what's my real name?"
"Curly" came the reply.
Felt an idiot I did!
Peace to all of us. Every single one!
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Morning ghuys and ghals -
There was a Lennoxtown/Lawwell exclusive interview on Sky Sports News earlier. I imaginre it will be repeated throughout the day.
I met with Awnaw in Bee Baw Babbity's in the aftermath of yesterday's victory. The mooted meet of CQNers did not happen (although there were a few lurkers present who praised the site, none of whom believed I was WG, I think they expected a mitre and crozier ???) so we headed to The Black Bull and then home to ML2.
Regards to oldtim67 from aw naw (and myself of course) following your travails.
Arsenal go eight successive wins in all comps and are unbeaten going into October.
Lee Naylor's rehab continues.
The referees are a bunch of masonic cheats desperate to do their bit for the inconsistent darnelist williamite forces.
The mothers will likely take points off us this season too. They normally do so even when they are a poor team.
Double Tops
WhocanGazeattheleaguetableagain
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Gweedore,
Agree with most of what you say, particularly the decoy dragging runs that open up space for others.
I think additionally that the runs are doubly dangerous in that they may not be decoys and Scott can be picked out directly. His possession play in those situations yesterday was spot on.
The only area where I differ is in Derek R's future.
I really hoped when he arrived that he would offer a real challenge for a first team slot.
having watched him as you have on numerous occasions now, his all round contribution to the team hasn't cleared the bar.
I feel he may very well be for the off, especially with the likes of Teddy B, and Jim O'Brien sitting in the wings (pardon the pun).
I hope he proves me wrong!
hail Hail
Estadio
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Hair-splitter
The appointment of DJR is like everything else that happens to everyone,everywhere on our small blue planet.Time will tell.
Lots of calamities grow into blessings given time;and vice-versa.
As the ancient Chinese curse goes'may you live in interesting times'
And no one can say we're not living in interesting times
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Gweedorbhoy.
Yip, the ref was atrocious!
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WG -
The goggle box is now on and I await the aforementioned article with interest. Glad you had a good day yesterday, and a big up for your non-biased description of the much-maligned and completely misunderstood men in the middle.
Estadio -
Am I correct in thinking that your surname is "Nacional"? 8-))
Lycru
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Estadio
I think your right but I just think deep down in his psyche is the bit of gallusness that could elevate him to the next level.
At the hibs he scored for fun and had the cheek to try some things that had no right to come off.
I had hoped with some personal issues behind him he would show us why we bought him.
I just think Wednesday could be a tipping point for him and if I had to choose between deek, Zurawski and Killen I would take a wee punt on deek.
We must beat Milan I would go for it. Big crowd, front third full of pace, guile and gallusness that would do me. We get one goal and then who knows.
As regards Teddy B and Jim O’brien they look the part and I hope they get a chance soon.
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WHAT A WONDERFUL SUNDAY MORNING
The ref`s performance from yesterday is still upsetting me , particularly when i viewed the darnel game
the extreme dicotomey between the Masonintheblack`s attitude towards us and the FOD reached another low for me yesterday
thankfully we were reasonable in our performence and won the game the Jock Stien way (you all know his famous quote )
everything was done to make us drop points yesterday
converse at fir park where every assistance was given
frightening but not unexpected
we need to go on the offensive about this ....DR J REID
just the man for the job
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I'd take a draw right now at home to Milan
WG
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Gweedore
Expect only the unexpected someone once said! (was that Clousseau by the way?)
If Derek played and delivered that little bit of the unexpected, to give us a win, I would even forgive him his hairstyle!
Or is that going too far?
As clousseau did say, it would definitely be a 'minky' off his back!
Lyruc,
What is your objective assessment of Derek's hirsute fashion?
Hail hail
Estadio
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Anyone
Did my ears deceive me yesterday, or did the lovable wee rogues frae Dundee really sing, 'stand up if you hate Jock Stein'?
I'm in the north stand so if anyone closer to them can confirm or otherwise, I would really appreciate it as I am meeting one of their kind today for a 'discussion' on other matters.
Hail hail
Estadio
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Estadio -
I haven't shaved the heid since Friday, so feel like a hippy just now - looking around for a rubber band for the pony tail now!
Yes, I object to Derek's hirsute fashion.
Fashion? Please note that i always think of myself as being more of a trend setter, than a fashion follower. The futures bright, it's shaven right (to the wood)!!
Cluyr
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I thought McGeady was brilliant yesterday, playing on the right. I understand Strachan's logic, with the wingers playing on their "opposite" side so that the full-backs can get forward, but I dont know if our personnel allows for that-- ie Wilson, Naylor and even Doumble dont have the skill or athleticism to get forward likd Cafu, Carlos, Oddo etc. We might be better off having Naka and McGeady playing on their natural side.
I think it's a good sign when the crowds at Parkhead are disappointed with only a 3-0 win (though a jammy 1-0 on Wednesday would do me fine!) Let the good times roll!
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Curly
Are you coming down for the Ukraine match?
If so, Sharkey's is on the way to Hampden so there will be a pint waiting for you if you pop in.
(Invite extended to anyone other CQNrs in the area)
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Estadio,
I thought it was “stand up if you hate Dundee” meaning their neighbours, a think. Though maybe they didn't want to go hame.
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Lennoxtown
from Kublacan.
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Kano @07:39
Your familiarity with my posts is really starting to freak me out...
From memory I think I posted those words about WGS after Artmedia. However, it is certainly not a "vitriolic" post, which is what you earlier accused me of. Wrong in sentiment it may have been (WGS has admirably recovered from that early calamity), but vitriolic it certainly wasn't.
On a related matter, I see that Scotland on Sunday are carrying an article on a "Rangers-minded" type book, in which self-confessed fans give their take on the club and its, ahem, "unique culture".
One contributor is Gordon Duffield Smith, who opines that Catholic schools are "the saddest thing about Scotland". Not the Orange Order, not the one-religion football club on the banks of the Clyde, but Catholic schools.
This is an example of what Celtic as a club are up against when it comes to dealing with the SFA. Ignorance, casual bigotry, and not-so-latent hostility.
Given this, I think it might not be such a bad idea to have a genuine heavyweight, a bruiser, and a pugilistic partisan, as our chairman, don't you agree?
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Juliet - 'Romario, Romario, where art thou spirit Romario?'
Romario - 'I bear the number, the sum of whose parts thrice'
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Thanks Richard.
My faith in human nature has been restored.
Apologies to any DU fans who may have felt aggreived.
No more mind altering Vodka before the game for me again!
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Estadio -
I will indeed be heading south for the Ukraine match.
Do Sharkey's allow in men in skirts?
What about wimmen in short skirts?
Ulcyr
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Is this a " Red Hand Salute" ?
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Curly-
no wigs in Sharkeys.
Don't even think about it.......
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noel -
I would be leaving the cat at home, it doesn't travel well.
Clyur
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Ulcry,
Men in skirts welcome!
Women in short skirts - Compulsory.
Noel,
It wasn't a salute at all. He wis trying tae get rid of a bogie!
Hail hail
Estadio
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OK..I get it now! Cause Stuttgart is in Germany and that means they must be nazis! Pure genius. FFS
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2007-08
P 8 W 6 D 1 L 1 F 27 A 6 Pts 19
2006-07
P 8 W 6 D 1 L 1 F 14 A 5 Pts 19
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I'm coming to the conclusion that it would be nearly impossible to find someone to become Chairman of Celtic that would be acceptable to the whole support.
My own views of Dr Reids appointment are largely irrelevant but what has made me feel sad is the emotive vitriol poured over him by some posters on here.
With some of the comments on here you would think JR was a cross between Oliver Cromwell, Lord Kitchener and Josef Goebbels.
Whether you support or abhor his appointment as Chairman it is a decision already taken and will be verified whether we like it or not come the AGM in November.
Then it is only what he does for Celtic that really matters and that is to put in place a support mechanism for the executives of the club to gain more success ON and OFF the field.
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Paul,
Arsene Wenger's interview in the Observer, taken from France Football, is a must read for all interested in the game and is , I think ,the blueprint that we are following.
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Afternoon all!
For those who haven't seen them yet here are the goals from yesterday.
McDonald's hatrick
/Bishop B
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so quiet today
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all gone to mass I suppose
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Missed the game yesterday - currently watching the re-run. First half very disjointed, lots of wasted possession and poor passing. Dundee Utd playing the better football but it is all in their own half or in midfield. They have nothing up front.
McManus probably the best player on the park so far. Good play by Aiden to set up the goal. Donati and Brown have gone off the boil since their early season form.
McDonald has added a new dimension to our play up front. I hope Killen can do something to show he is a real threat to JVoH for the centre forward slot. JVoH needs to do better in his all round contribution - can't fault his goal scoring though.
Back at FT :)
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ShamDi-in a perfect world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates
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Quiet today a bit like the crowd yesterday.
Interesting that 'the big lie'is now starting to get highlighted but it started at a first round SC game. George Galloway and Ron MacKay outing it.
Right quick question. At the game yesterday we were having a discusiion on players names especially JPD. We got round to commonly used names (ie John,Paul etc) and the players who have played for us. The name we came up with with the least amount of players we believe is Joe. We got 4. McBride, Craig, Miller and Fillipi.
Probably more but as its quiet and im heading out I thought I would leave you with this useless piece of rubbish.....
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tiny tim/ gweedorebhoy
I agree that Skippy can be a bit Novo-esque in front of goal but many 25-30 goals a seson player had that tendency too e.g. Super Sally.
What set McCoist apart from the likes of Novo was his tendency not to let it bother him the next time a chance came his way. A brass neck is a good thing in a striker. I think Scott still has a good chance of going the Ally route, only time will tell.
Incidentally, look at his second goal yesterday and note that the ref missed his wee foul against the defender. Barry Robson was booked for protesting that and he had a point.
My brother (purveyor of suspect information to this household) told me that yesterday's ref was an ex St. Mungo's pupil. I'm glad I turned down the chance of being schooled there.
Who would we vote as the best ref in Scotland? Or, to phrase that more accurately, who is the least poor ref in Scotland?
I think it's still Brian McGinley.
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gl2
I think you'll find Joe is quite prolific.
We've only had 1 Lubomir.
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Better second half performance yesterday. Brown and McGeady stepped up their game. Good hat trick from McD, will do his confidence no harm. Killen looks a bit cumbersome but probably needs games. Naylor had a steady game. Sno always looks like he is playing a 5-a-side game. Good result and another clean sheet at home. We will need a better performance on Wednesday
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At 29/09/07 21:40, ElDiegoBhoy said…pawnshop
Go away.
EDB
...AND A WHILE LATER...
At 30/09/07 00:44, pfayr said…JOHN RIED DETRACTORS
COFFEE TIME ...WAKE UP
no one cares about your political views
he is going to be MR celtic support him ( your club) or don`t it`s one in the same bhoys
Well, when this is the standard of debate ranked against those who have genuine, heartfelt misgivings about the latest news from our great club, then you have to wonder.
Why such venom from the pro-Reid crowd? There man will be in place soon - no petition or placard will alter that outcome. You should be happy.
But when a Kano, Estadio, CardiffBhoy or Monteblanco come onto this site to venture an opinion that deviates somewhat from the board position, they are vilified.
Personally, I will ignore the man; it's all he deserves. It's unlikely he'll lose sleep over that, or of some of the opinions expressed on here - can't imagine he loses sleep over much. I will continue in my naive belief that the most important ambassadors at Celtic Football Club are Gordon Strachan, Stephen McManus, Artur Boruc, Massimo Donati, and the rest...
Roll on Wednesday (1-0 to the Hoops). Hail Hail to you all.
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www.langerland.com is worth a look for a wee giggle if anyone else is bored. I particularly like the celeb football team
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TGT.Dare I suggest that accusing somebody of having blood on his hands is a pretty venomous thing to say.
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the greentrumpet
hardly villification
a rather obvious statement , i thought
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I understand there is an online petition set up for those opposed to the the appointment of John Reid, the despicable Blairite politician, to the Chairman's position at Celtic.
I would be enormously grateful if anyone can point me in the direction of this petition, which I would most enthusiatically sign.
The day this appointment was made will, in my view, go down as one of the worst days in the history of this great club of ours!!!!!!
A more detailed and quite probably, potentially libelous rant to follow on this subject!
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new article posted.
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Hi,
Not posted for ages. Thought i'd back up what one poster said last night about playing our left and right midfielders on their natural side.
yesterday by playing mcgeady on his natural side and playing the more defensive hartley on the left we did not need to have doumbe and naylor feeling like they had to bomb forward and get crosses in.
this meant they were just defending. no more gaping holes at the back.
i think until naka is back playing hartley on the left is wise as naylor needs a bit of help and protection at the moment.(from us too!!)
jvoh seems to be getting it tight the now but when you've got our left and right midfielders now getting to the by-line and whipping crosses back into the box he's going to get you goals.
the supply he'd been getting amounted to these high looping crosses from naylor which were no good to him.
defenders will mop these kind of balls up all day. sutton and hartson didn't like these crosses.
they would have been the first to tell agathe and thomson to get to the by line first.
our first goal proved it yesterday.
our third for skippy proved the benefit of having mcgeady on his natural side.
by playing this system we have better crosses in the box AND protection for our full backs.
On the appointment of John Reid my only concern is when in his lifetime has he managed a company?
In Brian Quinn we had a former Bank of England manager.
He has a hard act to follow.
Emjay
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This has already been posted above, but on request of Ragnar:
Protest against the appointment of John Reid as chairman of Celtic Football Club. Sign the online petition at:
www.gopetition.com/online/14473.html
Keep the faith.
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Four Masters hold on to defeat Glenties in the Donegal minor final. 1-7 to 1-5. Well done the wee masters
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Hi everyone,
Just a wee word. I’ve lost a bit of my usual interest in CQN recently due to too many numpties telling us how and why we’re so rotten.
TODAY WE GOT ANOTHER VALUABLE 3 AWAY POINTS.
I would have thought that our big, experienced JVoH would have been the man to do the business at the scoring end. I cannot believe seeing Scott MacDonald, a young, reasonably cheaply acquired, standby striker turning out to be the sensation that JVoH was expected to be. I’m so glad that Gordon Strachan had the foresight and nous to get this player. And not even that, he got him before Rangers, just like Scott Brown, and deprived our greatest rivals of these acquisitions who, I am convinced, will eventually go a long way to gaining our three in a row.
In my opinion, the team has not achieved what they could have, I thought our midfield would have been so potent it would have delivered our strikers with so many opportunities to score that it would have been just a matter of how many would they put in the net. This league campaign has turned out to be somewhat different, not really inasmuch as Rangers are stronger – we expected that anyway – but through a very vulnerable defence as a result of injuries, which has put the strain on the whole team.
We are blessed with a young striker who is scoring freely to win us points and matches, even in the Champions League. Who would have believed that Scott MacDonald would turn out to be THE Celtic hero so early in the season. You must remember, once again Celtic has been blighted with extra-ordinary injuries in the defence. Things haven’t been going our way, or as Gordon Strachan would have wanted.
It has been stated to death, and we all know, we wanted defensive cover. And I am sure that Gordon Strachan would have wished that, too, but couldn’t get that player that he required to come and play in Scotland (if it weren’t for the SPL, who wouldn’t want to play for Celtic?).
Going back to my opening sentence, although I read now and again what’s going on here, I just couldn’t be assed reading “supporters’” comments who IMO are simply incapable of genuinely supporting their team but take more pleasure in deriding our manager, certain players, and our board. I just couldn’t be bothered reading the regurgitated nonsense after a defeat. I ask myself how often is this going to happen: after each game even if we win it? When we lose? Or drop points? Or play badly? Or someone deems that someone has been played out of position? Or the team formation is not to someone’s taste? I ask you how often has Gordon Strachan made the substitution that has won us the game – another three points in the bag. These substitutions aren’t duly praised, but his non-substitutions are discussed at length. It disgusts me.
I just wanted to get that off my chest - like everyone else says on here - after not posting for a while.
Now, I’m looking forward to Benfica and somehow I want Celtic to win this game not just for Celtic’s sake, though, but so that I can enjoy reading this blog again, which means a lot to me as I live outside Scotland. I think some of you have got a problem. Maybe it sounds cheap, but get yourselves a life, get yourselves a girlfriend, if all you’ve got to do is moan, even though we are sitting top of the league and don’t have the worries you would seem to prefer us to have.
HHBhoy
