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An object on the Clyde formed through volcanic eruption - Dumbarton Rock or Fernando Ricksen?
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A point in the Ukraine would be a brilliant start to the group.
A tough target,but gettable if we play to our potential.They may be over-confident and we can use that to our advantage.
We've seen off the Meat,now we'll sort out the Beet.
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A point in Donetsk is what I am hoping for, would be a great start to the group.
A Milan win at home would also suit us nicely, think we might have to go 4-5-1 for this game as they will be dangerous at home if the last game in anything to go by.
RobinBhoy
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Don't Know about this hoping for a point business in shaktar.
I'm hoping for a win.
0-1 Away CSC.
(This is realistic)
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Paul
Please excuse me for using your blog to publicly dish out some
praise, gratitude & respect.
To 'The Spirit of '67' Celtic Supporters Club, Kilburn, London.
Is there anything more fulfilling than to be proud of your family?
I am going to miss you one & all.
The one-liners, the nutters, the children, the auld hauns, the bar
staff, the coterie, the virgins...
The atmosphere at times WAS paradise.
I'll NEVER forget during the second half of the Spartak game...
The 2 Jamaican dudes who were simply dumb-founded as to what they
had just walked into... the look on their faces...
Then during the second period of extra time they were screaming &
shouting, caught up in the drama & emotion as much as the rest of
us!
To have been associated with you all for the past 18 months was a joy.
Never forgotten.
Now onwards...
I look forward to the high & the lows with our extended family in
'the land of the rising tim' (c)copyright John O'Neill.
Look after Frankie for me.
Your brother in Celtic.
HAIL! HAIL!
D
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I hoping that JVOH figures out whatever it is that's distracting him.
We need the JVOH of Old Trafford, not the slightly limp performances of late.
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I've worked out why JVOH isn't the best at jumping. It's the weight of the letters on his back. He needs a shorter nickname to use. Then he'd be leaping like a salmon.
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Well done Paul, no 3!
http://celticunderground.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=397&Itemid=1
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Big Jan has been off form big time IMHO but still getting on the scoresheet which always bodes well.
Methinks Strachan hinting at Killen getting a starting berth soon my mean some bench warming for Jan.
Was great to see the subs available to us on Sunday.
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TheBhoyDave - Enjoy Japan - Celtic are definately favoured here (can't guess why:-)) anyway NO HUNS!!!
Very, very nice.
Oregonbhoy
currentlyinNagoya CSC.
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I would go with McDonald on his own up front supported by Hartley playing in the hole.
McDonald has the touch and ability to hold players off if the ball is given to feet and can give and go.
Big jan needs a reality check and a wee break may do him some good.
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Hanif....
Speaking as a minority of one, I think that JVoH is bubbling along nicely. I detect a steady improvement by the game.
He is always sniffing around the six yard box whenever a chance crops up and I feel he will pick up a lop of tap-ins this season.
If asked why I believe this, I would suggest that he is coming to terms with a new striking partner and more significantly, a different and better quality of midfield service.
Once we sort out the wide delivery, he will be flying. Let's be patient.
BTW, I see that Derek Riordan is only claiming two assists on Sunday.
I reckon he should include the corner for Jan's goal as well as the deflection and the inch perfect, flying volleyed pass to Mick.
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Paul -
dreadful result for the Ukrooners, you've put me off my lunch.
Sannabhoy -
I've no Dumbarton blood in me. If you cross Craigneuk wi Fauldhouse then you get me. Dr Frankenstein had more success.
Relegate The Racist Mothers
Roast Spuds.
Douse Duffield, The Damien Thorne Darnelist Disciple, with Domestos and Dettol.
WG, The Voice of tReason, ML2.
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the JVoH dilemma - maybe its the way we are playing. Perhaps he is not so used to such a reliance on his position to create chances - you know, either the intricate football that requires his input in the build up play, or the long ball option whereby he is the target man to flick on/bring down and start a move. I'm not sure what how he played at Feyenoord. Certainly, if it was focused on being in the right place at the right time to hit the target, you can see why he might be out of sorts with the present system. WGS expects and demands supreme effort every game. I think he could do with a week's break in the sun, recharge, to think about his game. In my opinion, Killen will be more than up to the task of replacing him - he's big, physically stronger than JVoH and has shown before injury that he knows where the net is.
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It's his hair[JVH,I mean].
It is not the hair of a Hero.
He looks like he works in the Passport Office.He needs a much more aggressive coiffure to get him in the right frame of mind.
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I agree with Big Liam
We should be going to the Ukraine
looking for a win.
but .. Hey, I'm not greedy, i'll take anything we can get over there.
It will, once again, be a difficult tie, but winable.
If the back 4 perform, then there is a chance
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Shakhtar will think that it's a guaranteed 3 points in the bag, after they tanked Celtic 3-0 on our last visit to Donetsk. But I believe that they are probably a little less strong now than then, and we are most definitely more of a handful.
I suspect, and hope, that the Ukrainians are in for a shock, and I expect Celtic to register their first ever away CL victory. It will certainly be needed, as I fearthat we will do well to even get a point off AC Milan, home or away.
Thus, if we are to qualify for the last 16, a win in Ukraine and a point in Portugal, along with home wins over both Shakhtar and Benfica, is the minimum requirement.
Alas, once again it's that old dilemma... do we want one more round of CL football, or should we hope for the chance to rack up a few more coefficient points by dropping into, then sailing through to the latter stages of the UEFA Cup?
Or maybe, just maybe, with a lot of luck and some pre-match hallucinogens, we could go all the way back to Moscow...?!
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A point would be great but how good would 3 points be
what a signal that would sent out
ATTACK... ATTACK...
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK
Theres only 1 Scott Brown
He turned the Rangers down
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Did you break the blog Lennondinho? Or was it an attack of the 13:13 virus?
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13:27 Obviously not!
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The Ukrainian press is certainly upbeat about their chances:
http://shakhtar.com/cgi-bin/fc-sh/allnews.pl?id=5414
There is a lot of money sloshing around Ukrainian football just now;they have spent £15M on improving their squad so I expect them to be at least as good as the last time they played us.
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Antsman (from previous thread)
baring in mind that my comments about brown being 2nd only to Gerrard were MY opinion
I may indeed be wrong but thats what i believe! sure i may have the green specs on but in 15 years of watching celtic home and away i think the boy is amazing.
while i agree essien is outstanding
on current form i wud take brown
for his goalscoring ability and also his tricks and overall cheek
I would pay more to watch brown than I would essien
just because he plays in scotland doesnt mean he cannot be the best.
I would agree though that he certainly needs to prove himself on the big stage, although he has done that the last few games with scotland (Italy and Georgia) and will hopefully continue to do so.
sure we can review him better after the rest of the CL games
but up til now, i think he has been outstanding, and is amazing to watch as he can do everything, absolutely everything.
a wish we had drawn chelsea now to see a FULL square go between brown and essien!!!!!!
I totally respect ur opinion though and would hope that you would mine, based on what i have said, even if u disagree 100%!!!!
Hail Hail Shun
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BigChipSuk
I didnae break anything!
honest ghuv
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Imagine for a moment.....
a fruit as chewy as Fruitella.
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Strachan speaks:
"You have to remember we did our main work early, and there was never a stage as the window was about to close where we were going to panic. I was comfortable with that.
"We always had a feeling two or three players would go, so there was no panic about that, either.
"We were well covered for anything that might happen."
"I'm all right. Most of us would like one or two players in just to cover you.
"But this has happened before, when I first came here, and through that we got Maloney and McManus through to the first team, and look how well they have done.
"There are definitely kids here who will have to come to the fore, if we need them."
What most Celtic fans want to know is, has the manager identified a full-back among these wannabees?
Given that cover for Mark Wilson and Lee Naylor has long-since been identified as a problem for the side, why was this not treated as a priority?
Strachan's answer is immediate. "You can't get it," he said, almost challenging you to provide examples to prove him wrong.
"The type of cover we are looking for, everyone is asking huge amounts of money.
"Then you have to say to them, we've two excellent full-backs here, do you want to come along and wait until they drop out of the team?
"So, it's very hard just to get players in."
"We've got Jo Doumbe back, so we are okay,"
"He can do that job, and Willo can play at left-back if Nayls had a problem. So, I'm not really that worried."
"We have to make sure we give them as much rest as we can.
"Willo is already resting more. Nayls will need to be rested more, too, and that is what is going to happen this week."
"There would be arguments for and against both scenarios.
"It would be nice to get them back for the whole week after they had played their second international so you could see them resting and you could have time to work with them again.
"But if they were going from Sunday's game at Love Street to an international on Wednesday, you might increase the chance of them picking up an injury.
"So, would it not be better, from a club manager's point of view, if they were allowed to rest before they play the two internationals?
"It's hard to say. I can only hope they all come back safe and sound."
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No Hell below us
Above us only Sky..
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Looking for some help from the stattos and anoraks out there.
In season 1964-1965 in the fairs cup we played a team from Portugal calle Lexioes.
We won the home leg 3-0,I have the scorers as Bobby Murdoch with a penalty and Stevie Chalmers with a goal.
Can anybody help with who scored the other goal?
If anybody has a Wee Red Book,that ISN'T 2005-2006,it should be in that.
Hopingforhelpcsc.
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I would not write Shakhtar off, they are a rich club who have invested a lot of money against this summer. They have lost Matuzalem who destroyed us in the last game over there, but they have bought a fantastic player in Nery Castillo, a wonderful Mexican attacking player, for around 20 million euros. The defence will need to be alert all game as he will snap at their heels for 90 minutes without tiring.
Not to mention Cristiano Lucarelli up front, who although 32, has scored 92 goals in 146 appearances for Livorno before moving to Shaktar this summer.
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Dont Brattback =Pink Floyd?
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Kano
Steve Chalmers scored two goals and Bobby got one.
Bobby also scored the first away leg in a 1-1 draw.
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Kane:
23-09-64 Leixões SC (Por) 1-1 Celtic Glasgow (Sco)
[Joao Maria Esteves 6; Robert Murdoch 32]
07-10-64 Celtic Glasgow (Sco) 3-0 Leixões SC (Por)
[Stephen Chalmers 14, 83, Robert Murdoch 88pen
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Kano :- S. Chalmers 14 & 83, Murdoch pen 88
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Looks like I'm far too slow on the draw today :-)
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Edward:
Runner up again, but I suppose you are used to that feeling this generation... ;)
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Craxahobeu ;- The good bit is that when you suffer the same fate at the end of the season I'll be able to give you advice on coping with it :-)
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Thanks Very Much Gents
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Edward:
If our reserves are defeated in the League Cup, I think I can forgive them. :)
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Стахановец... On Lucarelli,he scored 2 against the huns last season for Livorno who were the worst Italian team av ever seen.
The fact that the last game in our section is away to Milan should/could count in out favour.
They probably will have qualified, they play Juventus Dec 2 and have a World club championship game shortly after they face us.
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Celtic Lover
Aye right, nos 1,2,3 and 6 all highly scammable if you ask me? Told you it was the braided blazer and the clean shirts every day.I thought you'd have stopped wearing the shorts and knee length socks in 6th year though!
Hail Hail
H.
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terryo'neill:
They are not the greatest team, they have only been back in the top-flight for four seasons. It may also have something to do with their traditional standing as a communist team, so that may have discouraged some players for joining their ranks.
Lucarelli will still be dangerous, it was only three years ago he was the top scorer in Seria A, that sort of goal touch doesn't disappear, he'll take a chance if it comes along.
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and of course Mr Lennon
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Edward,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6976131.stm
I wont be able to make it myself but I´m sure we will be able to distinguish whom belongs to which group.
spacehopperbratwurstcsc;-)
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ANNAOAN :- I've been thinking about it and come to the conclusion that I would only take part if I can be the horse the policewoman was sitting on :-)
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Terry O Neill and others.
I see where many of you are coming from in terms of playing Milan in round 6 and hopefully it doesn't mean much to them but I doubt if Milan hold that mentality.
If i remember correctly we all hoped that would happen in round 6 of the CL three years ago when Barca and Milan had already qualified and they played Shaktar and us respectively.
Barca basically couldn't be bothered with the long trip to a chilly Ukraine in early December and got murdered and we thought Milan might have the same lackadaisical attitude on visiting Glasgow.
No such luck they played the Italian way and made sure they didn't lose even though nothing was at stake for them.
Barca and Milan went through, Shaktar got the UEFA Cup and we had a quiet spring.
Not sure we could count on Milan ever taking their eye off the ball.
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ShamrockDiary :- You bring up a good point, there is also the added factor that I can't see R. Gattuso taking it easy in any game against Celtic. He is one of the foreign players that have taken Rangers into their heart.
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Paul
Fun a Arry buried in da wa',wit' a note apinned der oan...
It wiz frae dat Demure Damsel... known as Alyss....who's in Barbados,with her Boyfriend,who's ca'ed, Hansel.
Dis is whit she hid tae say.....
"Donesk is a Sticky Wicket....it's a Feather in oor Hat, if dis Encounter... we could Nickit!
For,in dis gal's mind, Donesk is da HARDEST FOE, dat we wull FIND!
Mak no mistake, dey are a HURDLE...
Der Defense is Big an'Stroang .... with Faces that wid mak Mulk Curdle!
Ah tell da truth...when ah say dat ye wull find
Dat Donesk wull no treat Naka kind!
If we kin get away wid a DRAW...
Den dis gal wull be da Happiest Seer, o' dem Awe!"
As ye know Alyss has bin battin' well ... her forecasts hiv been SORTA SORTA,nigh spot on...
As far as ah kin tell!...
Even, her late lamented RAT ca'ed MACK.....
Passed oan dat we wid TAK ...SPARTA TAE DA MAT!!
So here is da Genuine Skivvy...
It's mebbe no as Welcome, as a CO-OP DIVY!
Howevvvvvvvvvah......
If we TAK DOWN DONESK, den awe wull turn oot well!!!....
Fur dey ither Two Teams.....
She disnae RATE SAE WELL...!
Of course, dat is as FAUR AS AH KIN TELL!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Edward
I agree. Your ex-player seems to need little or no motivation to get himself up for a game when the green and white hoops arrive.
However the point many of the guys are making is that Ancelotti might rest some players as they play Juve a couiple of days before playing us and then going off to Japan for the World Championship game.
Its a good bet that Gattusso might be one of those rested players but where I am coming from is that regardless of how meaningful the game may or may not be to Milan they have a mentality that refuses to take it easy simply because they have already qualified.
I am sure that goes through their first team and any reserves they may bring in if some of the first team are being rested.
On the other hand it might just be possible that the game means nothing to us as we have already qualified (as round 6 proved last year) and it is Milan who are needing a win to secure their on-going participation.
That's what happenned last year when in round 6 we were playing for little in Denmark (and it showed in our performance) and Man Utd were having to beat Benfica to go onwards.
NO-ONE possibly forseen that scenario when round 1 started last September so strange things happen.
At least this time when we get through to the last 16 we won't be playing Milan!!!!
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Edward,
I think you have already been designated to do the Nani goal celebration!
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After the draw was made I kinda had that 'no again' feeling, but I am now beginning to look forward to these matches. They will ALL be concerned about coming to Paradise, thats for sure. Imagine another couple of those crazy nights like last Wednesday. Ye cannae whack it.
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Looking at the way the draw has panned out, realistically our best hope is to go to Milan having already qualified. To do this we need to take at least two points from our two away games (either a win or two draws then) and take at least six (preferably seven) from our three home games.
I think the draw has the potential to work out really well for us with the only proviso being that I'd rather face Benfica in Glasgow before travelling to Lisbon. A result in Donetsk would allow us to approach the home Milan game with freedom.
I think I'm also right in saying that our game against Milan will take place a week before all other groups as they are off to play in the World Club Championships.
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Paul
Ah hiv a BLOCK... it's Mebbe Mental!
Mebbe, it's because ah admire da Greeks...
So, Mebbe, it could be even ... SENTIMENTAL!
Fur "SPARTA... READ..... "SPARTAK"
"Ready, when YOU ARE.... C.B.!"
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Yes,the trick will be facing Milan and not having to worry[!]about the result.ACM nearly always get the result they want;they will want to take at least a point from the game at CP,and will plan accordingly.
A result on the banks of the Don would really upset the applecart as far as the group is concerned.
I think there will be posters on BQN and SQN thinking-SD v Celtic,home win.
Ceelanes,nah.Lennon[the other one].WG put the idea in my head.
I'm not a fan of Floyd,or Pink,for that matter.Or JL after the Fab4.
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where is super scout,airmiles collector and duty free salesman
Ray Clarke?
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Where is iconoclast and Bulgarophobe NAFOS?
Is he lurking on AVQN?
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dbia
more like Avon if you ever saw Nafos
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Artur Lee -
ur ye oan yer jollies yit ?
dontbratt -
you've cracked it amigo. The Pink Flhoyd Sellik Scarves. Like the Friendship scarves - we can have the hands shaking from the Wish You Were Here logo, perfect it is, just perfect. The Four Leaved Clover oan wan side and a white brick waw oan the other. The darnelists ca have The Dark Side oan theirs.
Wishy Were Here, ML2.
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..... in fact they'd be better aff wi the Animals album cover.
WatersGilmour
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or that big coo fae Atom Heart Mother................ (Davie Weir?)
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Sellik First -
pray tell me your take oan oor mate Kenny Clark's NON-dismissal of Demanda Miranda. If Scott Broon wiz daein the pushin what do you think KC would have done ?
I think I can guess
(you KNEW I'd bring this up)
Your amigo
WG
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Pushin Too Hard - The Seeds
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NAFOS was in the Teser last night, spending his Kingston First Goalscorer winnings on his fellow Wishite.
Altogether now....
" Hearts, Hearts glorious Hearts
It's doon by the Fir park the play
NAFOS bet was up
And we had a wee sup
And the Mothers goat beat anyway....
This is my story, this is my song
A couple of rights don't make a wrong
NAFOS wins his bet and the Mothers git bet
I could toast their defeats aw night long.
"
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Wg
a bet against the family team?
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Artur -
as I say two rights don't make a wrong. There is a hierarchy of hatred.............and you know it.
WishyGemmell
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....in fact you started it
WG
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....it actually kills me to want that mob to beat La Darnelista
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WG
Ach, I don't know. I was kind of glad there was no red card.
If Scott Brown had done what Miranda did, I'd have been disappointed in him. I'd far rather he made an eejit of the guy with the football, which is what he did.
Kenny Clark would probably have given Scott Brown a yellow card too, but, conceding your point, there would then have been a brouhaha to turn it into a retrospective red at the start of the week.
It's blindlemonchitlin' who told me your man Kenny was a Tim. I don't know the guy from Adam (Kenny, I mean. Blindlemon is well known to me).
I've always thought Clark was trying too hard not to be seen to be a Celtic fan, but I remember the day we lost to Clyde that there were guys on here saying Kenny Clark was favouring us (over a penalty decision?) and that it was embarrassing.
We would be embarrassed if the ref favoured us. We wouldn't know how to handle it.
For Rangers, it's a sign that Beelzebub is in his Hades and all is well. It's the natural blue order of things. It's how things should be.
They are the people after all.
By the way, I returned to the old college on Friday evening, now turned into a very holy retreat centre. They let me walk through the grounds with two of my weans.
After I pointed to a wee shed and told them we had kept two pigs in it, there was no turning their attention back to the appearance in the building of the Sacred Heart. No way.
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Teser, ML2 here we come.
Back to the real stuff you lot..........and pay attention at the back.
WillieGarner
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was speaking to coach Quinn today and he reckons the Well will be in the top six no probs
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Sellik First -
you are of the Order of Clarks irRegular
nae wonder I drink the biddy.
laters on this, sunshine band member.
Shame on you and those two policemen !!!
:-)
WelliGton
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Artur -
they already are in the Top Four
Darnel
Mothers
Mancs
Spuds
I'm off X
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C1st-when I was in a church in Nicosia there was a figure painted on the ceiling whom I took to be God[brilliant,Holmes,how do you do it!]
Anyway,he had a triangular,rather than a circular,halo-something I'd not seen before.Is this a Greek Orthodox convention?
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From the Beeb's SPL head story just now regarding the racism from last night:
"And the latest incident may to lead to an investigation from the SPL.
It will be mentioned in match observer Allan Preston's report, which will also include possible sectarian singing from Hearts supporters."
Hertz and the Muthers both brought to task? Duffield might have his hands full....which will allow him to focus anywhere other than the travelling follow followers
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If we have to play our final group match away to Milan a week before the others, whatever happened to the Uefa / Fifa rule that all final group games play simultaneously, to avoid collusion in securing results?
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C1st-the pigs-what were they called?
YOu can get cheese from cows,sheep,goats,horses[?]but not pigs.Funny old world.
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Collie, Shakhtar were an excellent football team last wee seen of them, though they have lost their Tymo, who will be difficult to replace.
A defeat in Donetsk would not be the end of the world, indeed, the ‘back three’ games look like producing most points, but a point or three in Donetsk would be a blow to both Shakhtar and Benfica.
Tom the Tim, a far from satisfactory situation, though hopefully Milan will be able to rest players for the tourney ahead.
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Tom the Tim
Our group will be decided that night as Benfica / Shakhtar will also play their game early.
tmc
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Commonwealth Games
don't know if this has been mentioned before - got to be good news
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Paul
Ah accept EVERYTHING YE SAY... DA DAY!
... ah think masel', dat Donesk is da HARDEST NUT in da BARREL....Although, ah notice
....NAEBODY else seems tae say!
Ah wid like a SUBSTANTIAL REPORT.....oan Shaktur... fae our o' so Polite .....MR.ZEE!
Ah,must Apologize tae He...
But, da proaper spellin' o' his name,
Is too much o' a Bear......fur me!
Calling Mr. Zee! Calling Mr.Zee...
Come oot ...an' dinna be shy...
In da need o' yer SERVICES...we be!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Paul67,
How would you compare the potential revenue for Celtic and Rangers in the CL group phase? Based on our higher capacity and less outsourcing do you think the difference will be significant should be gain the same number of points?
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TMC,
Thanks, that makes sense, although it hasn't done much for my paranoia.
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collie,
I assume it's Zbyszek whom you are looking to in order to provide information on Shaktar?
Just in case Magic Zurawski responds.
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Setting Free da Bears
It is TO WHOM, dat you say...
Thanks fur yer help,as ah've fa'in oot wit oor Magic...
As Ah am MAIST DISAPPOINTED IN HIS PLAY!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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McManus69, that is a really interesting question, I had not considered what the different revenue streams for Celtic and Rangers would be in the Champions League.
You make good points about the larger stadium and merchandising rights. All tolled it must be worth circa £1m more to Celtic.
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Paul
Kojo...an' way before him... Kelso...
broached wit ah'm noo gonna say.
"AH HATE INTERNATIONAL MATCHES... DEY UR DA BANE O' MA LIFE!...
DEY SERVE NO USEFUL POIPISE!...
AN' ARE MINY TIMES THE SOURCE O' OOR PLAYER'S INJURY.... AN' STRIFE"
Dey spiled da Career o' Many a guid lad...
Da INJURY TAE KENNEDY WAS A LIBERTY...an' SAD!
Da INJURIES DEY PROVIDED TAE....
PETTA....Dinna LAUGH! He wiznae THAT BAD!
An' also tae MAGIC.... dey NEVAH WUR DA SAME LADS!
An' EVEN TAE JVOH... he picked up wan anawe.... dat has prevented him Playin' WEEL... He is NOO NO DA SAME MAN....he's no playin' da SAME AT AWE!
Noo... GOAD HELP US...if dis latest dumb roond... o' INTERNATIONALS LEAVE US WI' SAIR INJURIES...which ah assume
DEN OOR HOPES FUR SUCCESS, WILL BE CUT SHOART AND Even, DOOOOOOMED!
Internationals?
Dinna get me started!.....as soon as ah see dey ur coming.
AH CROSS, my wee Paws....
FUR AH DINNA WANT TAE HEAR O' ANY MISHAPS, wi' INJURIES an awe!!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Collie
Who/Whom errors eh!
My psychotic English master would have belted the living daylights out of me.
I'll away and dangle my participles in an embedded question.
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on the jvoh form thing
its abundantly clear his form dip coincides with his
silly switch to white football boots.
i wish they would stop doing it. the self same misfortune struck aiden mcgeady before his untimely change, and when he wore regular boots we never had any debate about his true talent.
bring back dubbin as well, while we are at it
only big yogi could play in sannies, even then he only did it once.
hail hail
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Collie
I'm back on CQN.
Few minutes ago I made a short trip through the blog.
I can change my nickname, but don't ask me to change my real name. Zee is Okay. Zyberski from WGS was also nice.
SFTB and the others who can write my name in a proper way are the champions.
jimtim
I saw your post about your trip to Krakow. I'll try to warn people out there.
If you need any advise or help Paul has my email address.
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kano 13.53
just dug out a wee red book from 67-68 .with all the info on the the lions . anyway you wont believe this ,but there is an advert in it which states .
when visiting celtic park. call at
the bowlers rest.
netherfield bar .
the one five one bar .
the toby jug.
and wait for it
the louden bar
536 duke st.
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Settin' Free da Bears
Wan thing ye'll nevah get any Lessons in INGLISH, fae little auld me!
Na, am nae Paragon oan dat kinda stuff...
As ye say ....every time Da Pookah... reads it...
He Goes in da HUFF!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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From Shakhtar site
Which place will Shakhtar capture in a group D:
2. 70.06%
3. 13.1%
1. 11.31%
4. 2.93%
It doesn't metter which place, the most important thing is that they will show good football 2.6%
You see? Those who gave their votes for the second Shakhtar belive Celtic will be first.
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Zbyszek(But in da future..Mr.ZEE)
It was not my intention to cause a Furore,
It was just at the time, I could not find how to spell your Real Name...
IN MY MEMORY STORE!
So, not the Slightest teeny Slight, was intended, be sure,
Please, do not be insulted as I will be dismayed...to the Core!
Anyway...back to Maverick!
How about gien us da Dish...
oan oor Russian(???) opponents!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Shamrock Diary 14.43 Milan were going for ist place that season you refer to, although they had qualified they still wanted pole position above Barcelona.
Last season there was no danger of Milan losing pole position going into the last game and they duly lost 2-0 to Lille in the San Siro.
I should have clarified my point to the extent that if Milan are qualified and in no danger of losing first place they will field a weaker side.
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Collie :- If you ever want to start a petition to end internationals you will have nome de plume on the list. They may have been more important in the past when their weren't so many club games or the financial side of things wasn't in the stratospheric realm it is just now but I feel they are now a huge risk for clubs. I would say there are two exceptions, those clubs at the bottom with no international players and those at the very top who have high quality internationals as back up. I would say both our clubs are a step down from that and the loss of one or two players injured while playing for a national team could change a season.
P.S I wonder if Zbyszek noticed that you infer from his name he is a Rangers man ;-)
Zbyszek :- You should be a politician with the spin you managed on that poll result :-)
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Internationals are a bugbear for me too.
They once had their place, pre television, to bring the cream of talent to a ground near you.
Today, every top club is a mini International team and, with a few exceptions,are of a better class than National sides.
With the amount of money invested on these players by their clubs, it is a huge risk to lend those assets to Associations. Added to that, with so many of these games being friendlies, fans get short changed on many occasions.
My solution is for International matches to have an age limit, of perhaps twenty five, which will allow young players to showcase their talent.
After that age, players are usually at their peak and should be concentrating their efforts on the business of those clubs who have invested in them.
Of course, it will never happen.
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Mr.Zee
Great work, my fine man,
It's good to have a friend..who understands Russian(?) as you can!
So, they think that our Bhoys are a Threat?
That is the Best News this Morning(here)that I have heard , yet!
By the way, I believe that they will finish in the Number Two,
Just think about the surprise...
Celtic First...
Donestk Second.
Now that would be a GREAT HOW'D YE DO!
Thanks,Tovarich!....( SHOWIN' AFF..why not??...my best friend is a RUSSIAN WOLF- HOUND!( or at least.. he thinks he is...a great one for the Ladies!)
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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TomTheTim :- While I would still prefer no internationals I think your idea of an age limit is a good compromise. I would still say though that associations should be forced to carry adequate insurence to cover both clubs and loss of earnings. A lot of young players are still on fairly low (in comparison) basics with a high percentage of money coming from bonus and appearance money, I think they should be compensated as well for loss of this.
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Tom the Tim
Clubs come and go and are wholly dependent on capital, National Teams are the product of many centuries of warfare which makes matches betweemn neighbouring countries so appealing.
e.g. suppose Ronaldinho wishes to transfer to East Fife, should he be denied the right to play for Brazil if both player and country wish it so even if he is over 25.
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Keen students of the media and reporting may want to compare and contrast the approach of Raman Bhardwaj in Scotland Today when reporting the allegations into Motherwell fans' racism and Hearts fans' sectarianism and the report several week ago of unfounded allegations regarding the Celtic support. You'd have to conclude that either Bhardwaj is himself discriminatory in his reporting and presenting or is now bricking it after getting it so badly wrong last time. The tut-tut look on his face was right and fitting with the nature of the report, compared to his bombast and 'ya beauty' of his Celtic report. And none of the 'STV understand this is true' tonight - more mibbees, mibbees naw, in fact it's highly unlikely etc. Indeed, on the stv.tv website, the report into last night's events comes from PA sport, not an STV reporter. Running a bit scared, old STV. It may also suggest they are two-faced.
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Collie,
Zbyszek is a proud Pole with few reasons to feel any affection for the Russian Bear. In any case our opponents are Ukrainian and they too are trying to distance themselves from their USSR past though they might not quite match the mood of the Poles in that respect.
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Ed also Tom Da Tim
Well, ah Nevah!...as da Ingenue said to da Leading Man!!
I am please dat some ithers equate International Matches tae playin' KICK da CAN( or should dat no be MAN!)
In da Movies... a Star is a thing tae PROTECT... der Every whim it is saught!
Dey are wrapped up in cotton...
FUR DEY UR DA KING O' DA LOT!
Everything depends oan der Showin',
Fur Dey ur DA REASON WHY DA FANS UR AWE A CLAPPIN'!
Yet in Soccer .. IN Internationals..STAR PLAYERS UR RISKED!!!
Dey ur jist like an Accident, Awaitin' tae Happen!
Dat idea, is a guid wan...da wan aboot a limit in Age.
It is wise, it is couthy.....
Let's FACE IT.... IT'S SAGE!
FUR, whit we ur talkin' aboot wull remain Pipe Dream...
But, it diz seem a WASTE...
Dat we ur NEEDLESSLY!!!
TAE ACCIDENTS...
EXPOSING OOR CREAM!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Settin' Free da Bears
You wull hiv nae back chat frae me...
Ah know dat oor Friend is A PROUD POLE....
But,he diz speak Russian, which is oor Ace in da Hole!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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Ted-
in response to your defence of Marquis Murray being labelled "Sir Bungalot" by a poster from CQN this morning-
Ex Rangers manager Paul Le Guen stated that Viscount Murray told him that "he had around 80% of the Scottish press in his pocket".
"in his pocket" can only mean surrepticious backhanders.
If any of Earl Murrays lawyers are reading this-
Paul Le Guen says he will see you in court.
The prosecution rest their case.
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Collie,
He does indeed have an ability with the russian language. Sorry, if it came across as a correction earlier.
Wikipedia lists the Shaktar squad thus:-
Squad is given according to the club's official website [1], as of August 9, 2007.
No. Position Player
1 Flag of Ukraine GK Yuri Virt
3 Flag of the Czech Republic DF Tomáš Hübschman
4 Flag of Serbia MF Igor Duljaj
5 Flag of Ukraine DF Oleksandr Kucher
6 Flag of Brazil MF Willian
7 Flag of Brazil MF Fernandinho
8 Flag of Brazil MF Jádson
9 Flag of Mexico FW Nery Castillo
10 Flag of Serbia MF Zvonimir Vukić
11 Flag of Brazil DF Ilsinho
12 Flag of Ukraine GK D
