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Monday, October 08, 2007
McDonald delivers an ominous blow to the rest of the league

Let me start by giving credit to Gretna. At the start of the season I suggested they would not win a game all season, clearly I was wrong. They are a team with players who look more than comfortable in the SPL; well organised and hard working and without a doubt, they deserved at least a point yesterday. St Mirren should be very worried.

Their fans, who I was sitting among, were excellent, even when we celebrated the Celtic goals. They were gutted at the end, but it was still hand shakes all round. I now have a second favourite Scottish team, not that they have much competition.

Celtic created nothing in the first half, even with our three most creative players on the field. Although Gordon Strachan switched Aiden McGeady and Shunsuke Nakamura at half time to the left and right wings respectively, the change had little impact on proceedings after the interval.

It was the introduction of Jiri Jarosik on 80 minutes which won the points, the second game in succession a substitution has been key to the victory. Jarosik is a curious player and certainly not a centre forward, but when Celtic had exhausted all other patterns of play they took the direct approach and Jarosik was more often than not the man challenging for the high balls.

Chris Killen was having what looked like a fruitless afternoon. He must have considered his first start for Celtic against the bottom team in the SPL would provide him with enough opportunities to score a goal or two but this was not the case. His first goal for the club after 85 minutes only looked like a chance as it dipped into the net.

It was a great header which beat the goalkeeper at a tight angle to prevent what would have been the greatest result in borders football for 40 years.....

His striking partner, Scott McDonald, was presented with a similarly low frequency of opportunities, but when Aiden McGeady’s shot found him in injury time his first touch done all the hard work, allowing him to poke the ball past the Gretna keeper and into the net with his second touch.

Scott is still in his early days as a Celtic player, so it is too soon to make snap judgements as to how good a player he is, but the evidence is mounting; he is the most important player at the club right now.

There were few pass marks for Celtic. The entire midfield was ineffective; without creativity or purpose, so much so it seems unfair to single out any particularly bad performance.

Should we be concerned that Artur Boruc is losing goals this season that he never lost in his first two seasons in Glasgow? Maybe not yet. His Hibernian nadir and the fumble he got away with against Milan were followed yesterday by the kind of goal Magnus Hedman or Rab Douglas would be vilified for.

Time to fix whatever the problem is Artur.

On leaving the ground I am sure I heard a version of "These are the victories that win leagues" said a dozen times. An ominous feeling must have passed over our principle rivals yesterday afternoon.

Last word for Gretna defender Danny Grainger, whose distress at playing Scott McDonald onside for the winning goal was evident as he held his head in his hands and crumbled into a heap before McDonald shot. Make up for it next time out against St Mirren Danny.

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Posted by Paul67 at 12:02 PM :: 

327 Comments:
  • At 08/10/07 12:04, BigChipSuk said…

    Skippy, you are forgiven!

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:06, danny said…

    What happened (in Borders football) 40 years ago ?

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:07, BigChipSuk said…

    This post has been removed by the author.

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:10, corrib04 said…

    The mighty Berwick Rangers defeated the not so mighty Glasgow Rangers 1-0
    danny.

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:18, thismancraig said…

    Considering the abuse our full backs get it is worth considering that we have two full backs (of different quality) to thank for our 90th minute winners.

    The Gretna defender can expect to make such errors given the level he has played at however Massimo Oddo has less of an excuse. Excellent play from Scott McDonald, a great run of form and he has all the attributes of well, I don't need to say who.

    Onto Boruc, I'd be interested to hear an explanation on why he conceded the goal yesterday. Certainly it's not the type of spell we're used to him having. Instead of comparing him to Magnus or Rab, I'm going to compare him to his own hero. At this stage in the season, the Great Dane used to regularly make such errors and even go on extended holidays from the side to recover. Come the business end, he was a points winner. I think in Artur, we have someone with the same attributes.

    First away clean sheet in a year? You know it makes sense :-)

    Final word for the referee, what a disgusting challenge he allowed to pass off with a yellow card yesterday. How wrong the rules are, you celebrate a definitive goal with great passion and you recieve a yellow. Endager a fellow professionals livelihood and you get the same punishment.

    Just wrong.

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:23, Bhoy_Molloy said…

    dontbrattbackinanger

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donegal_Celtic

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:24, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    TMC-Two games is probably not enough to make into a'pattern'but both have followed European games,in which he has distinguished himself.

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:28, Lennondinho18 said…

    Paul Shun

    would agree 100%

    McDonald is our most important player just now.

    I think if he stays fit he will get at least 30 goals this season, which would be brilliant and much needed

    He has all the attributes to become a hero, and is fast becoming a fans favourite.

    Who would have thought that after his goals helped motherwell defeat us and ultimately cost us the league.

    what a turnaround

    Hail Hail Skippy

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:29, winningemmell said…

    Tully57 et al -

    re the despicable Fir Park Social Club, perhaps the first paragraph of Mark McGhee's 'Side Netting' column from yesterday's Sunday Herald may shed some light :-

    " I was at a Motherwell supporters' forum during the Lyon-Rangers game but it wasn't hard to remain well-informed about what was happening in France. There were television screens showing the Champions League and the fans in our venue greeted each Rangers goal with a massive cheer. "


    NB - Fir Park and The Fir Park Social Club are in ML1 NOT ML2.



    WishyGemmell

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:36, BigChipSuk said…

    Thismancraig, I agree re: the ridiculous rule which requires the referee to book players for celebrating a goal should they leave the field of play without the referee's permission.

    The "field of play" should be considered as the pitch and surrounding area up to the edge of the spectator areas. So if you jump over the advertising hoarding into the crowd you would be booked, but if you simply run around the back of the goal you would NOT.

    Perhaps we should all email the SFA, FA & UEFA, or start an online petition to be sent to these organisations, requesting a change to this stupid rule...

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:44, NatKnow said…

    BigChip -

    Interesting. Does that mean if you slide-tackle and slide over or run over the bye-line due to momentum the ref should book you since no permission was granted?!

    Whatever the answer it it a nonsense.

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:47, antsman said…

    funny

    i openly questioned the hype on macdonald just prior to the dundee united game saying his goalscoring record - at the time - for us was 1 in 3 nothing to get to excited about

    since then he has scored the winner in the next 3 games essentially against milan and gretna turning a point into 3

    well done scotty, i now feel rather silly

    i think the major concern from yesterday was naylor again. not sure what has happened to the guy but he is just not picking up any sort of consistent form and must be a concern considering he has absolutelty no competition or maybe thats the cause. tho i would say his defending is still decent its his distribution and crossing.

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:54, BigChipSuk said…

    Natknow, the fact that the slide-tackling player is not usually booked (unless a foul challenge has been committed) suggests that the referee is not obliged to apply that particular law to the letter, and that he does in fact have the right to use his discretion. Therefore he must also be able to use his discretion when applying this law in other situations that may arise during the game, such as a player stepping off the pitch whilst celebrating a hugely significant goal.

    That common sense and discretion have not been applied (more than once) recently is one for further discussion by the conspiracy theorists... That's why we're paranoid!

     
  • At 08/10/07 12:55, rammybhoy said…

    Great goal by Scott yesterday. It is too early for making comparisons but his work rate and first touch give him all the attributes to keep progressing.

    A 30 goal a season striker!! Surely not for £650,000 ;-)


    The yellow card for celebrating was ridiculous but so were many decisions.

    3 points after a CL game is always a nice touch.

    WGS keeps surprising me, lets hope he has a couple of more surprises up his sleeve in a couple of weeks time.

    These are the victories that win leagues -- You better believe it

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:00, taggsybhoy said…

    Paul

    There's a lot I like about Scott McDonald. The goals, obviously, but he is also a very brave player. He took one hell of a whack from that legbreaking tackle which deserved a straight red. He dusted himself down and realised the best response is to pop one in the net. Mission accomplished. 3 very vital points.

    To think Scott got the same punishment for celebrating an unjury time winner as a guy who could have ended another professional's season is hard to fathom. Unless you're paranoid that is. Which I am!

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:01, TommyTwistsTommyTurns said…

    Paul - the result yesterday was very important for two reasons. Apart from the fact that the points could make a telling difference at the business end of the season, there is the added bonus of not having to win at Mordor.
    The pressure is all on the Cardigan because he knows if he loses the first Glasgow Ddrby of the season then he'll be 6 points behind.

    Am I the only one concerned about the way Donati manages to disappear out of games? When he charges down the left flank or through the middle, he looks quite dangerous, but we only get fleeting glimpses of this.
    He's in danger of losing his place to a rejuvenated JJ.

    TTTT

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:03, NatKnow said…

    BigChip -

    A valid observation - the rules are subject to interpretation of course and the ref is the interpreter. Which is why it's so annoying when commentators quote rules as if they're simple facts. They should examine the interpretation that's been applied to the rule instead when looking for validity - this will show up some interesting anomalies!

    I actually thought the rule related to "overcelebrating" though - i.e. a crowd control issue

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:06, pastyface said…

    Boruc's problem is clearly the smoking kills adverts behind him that must have put him (fag ash Lil) off

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:09, Kano said…

    Here is Neil Lennon's take on the Milan game and a few other things

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:14, McManus69 said…

    Paul67,

    I think the staff at Rangers at in denial. I had to laugh at their official site which shows the league table and Celtic are no where to be seen. The table only shows Hibs above them...

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:17, Big Wavy said…

    He's in danger of losing his place to a rejuvenated JJ.

    TTTT - Personally I think that's healthy for the team and if JJ deserves to be there on performance then that's good enough for me. Up to massimo to up his form and get back in. I agree with you too about Massimo's recent performances. I'm a fan and think he's still attuning to the 'away' match / cup final culture of games in the SPL, where teams come at us and give everything (legal or otherwise) to claim our scalp.

    Although a tad early, with the philosophy of 'horses for courses', my team for the trip to meet the Orcs I'd go for :

    Artur
    Gary C (presence v McCulloch)
    Bobo Balde (sheer scary presence)
    Mick
    Lee
    Massimo
    Scott Brown
    Jiri Jirosik (left hand side of midfield)
    Aiden (right hand side to take on Papac)
    JVOH
    Skippy

    CK and Naka on after 60 minutes to push for our 6th and 7th goal…..well, we have an anniversary to celebrate :)

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:25, winningemmell said…

    October Break report


    CELTIC

    Unbeaten at home.

    Unbeaten in domestic cup competition

    Second in CL Group

    Top Goalscorers in SPL

    Best Defensive Record in SPL

    Top of SPL

    4 consecutive wins from last 4 fixtures.




    ARSENAL


    even better.






    WG

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:26, BigChipSuk said…

    WG, you forgot: Yet to concede a goal at home in the SPL.

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:27, BigChipSuk said…

    This post has been removed by the author.

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:28, TommyTwistsTommyTurns said…

    Kano - really enjoyed that clip and good to see that Leny retains his passion for the club.

    McManus69 - they did during the last two seasons. I hope that our club never becomes that pathetic!

    big wavy - if our manager learned anything from Sir Awex, then expect to see an article prior to the Ipox game about the increasing use of elbows and how referees need to be more vigilant.

    TTTT

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:28, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Windsor/Gotha-is there a picture of HRH in the King Lud,perhaps squirreled away amongst all the exhortations not to top myself?

    Yesterday's game really turned with the introduction of OLSP young'haun Jim O'Brien.

    As our fullbacks seem to have the durability of chocolate flak-jackets,and we have hunners of centrebacks cluttering up the squad,why not move to a 3-5-2?

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:30, BigChipSuk said…

    First!

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:37, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Several teams get their web pages provided from the same source,and the design only shows the team above and below them in the League table eg:

    http://www.leedsunited.com/page/Home/0,,10273,00.html

    Happy to say I managed to dig this out without signing up to anything.

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:37, scottishleaf said…

    Law 18 of football as far as a Referee is concerned is called common sense. Yet again a referee failed to apply common sense in regard to a Celtic player being caution for celebrating a match winning goal. Yes Skippy left the field of play but it's not like he dove into the crowd.....

    As for the tackle on Skippy: It was a straight red card. I can only imagine Brian Winter bottled it after having a previous red card rescinded. Believe me as a MIB this tackle ticked all the boxes as far as an ordering off is concerned. The speed of the challenge, the fact that it endangered the player, the fact that the player left dove in with both feet and the fact the player had no chance of winning the ball means it should have been a straight red and I am sure the SFA will be letting Mr Winter know that in due course!!

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:37, Paul67 said…

    Antsman, you made a good point on Scott at the time.

    McManus69, it shows they are hurting. Again.

    TTTT, Ibrox in two weeks is a great opportunity to pile it on. You know how clubs can be swamped when fans throw all perspective out of the window after a defeat or a couple of bad results, the knee-jerk reaction to a Celtic win would be fatal to their challenge.

     
  • At 08/10/07 13:57, Big Wavy said…

    Paul67 said : You know how clubs can be swamped when fans throw all perspective out of the window after a defeat or a couple of bad results.

    Thank god our fans don't resort to this sort of behaviour Paul :)

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:00, BigChipSuk said…

    Rangers need to beat Celtic 4-0 and hope that Hibs don't beat Motherwell if they are to return to the top of the SPL. While we can rest safe in the knowledge that even if we lose 0-3 at Ibrox we'll still be above them.

    But should we sneak so much as a 2-1 win at Ibrox we'll be sailing six points clear of our only serious challengers. Hibs challenge will, in time, collapse like a Brazilian 'keeper.

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:01, ian_in_budapest said…

    Did anyone else think that the injuries, poor tackles and general poor fotball, could have been attributed, at least partly, to the state of the pitch and the ball yesterday? Even watching on Ch67 you could see that there was some kind of problem and I wasn't surprised that it was later raised as an issue. What does surprise me however, is why our club would allow our players (perhaps our most expensive and most important assets) to be risked on a playing surface like that without taking the referee to task about it. I mean what more of a derliction of duty can there be for a referee than a failure to check that the ball is in fact round and that the home team has prepared the pitch to an acceptable standard.

    There should be a formal complaint lodged with the SFA over this. Furthermore, less it be needed to reinforce the point, it should be highlighted that the resultant injury of at least one Scotland player before two key qualification matches is about as close as the SFA can get to shooting itself in the foot. Utterly scandalous and truly amateur football adminstration that reflects very poorly on Scotland.

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:04, BlantyreKev said…

    October
    And the blue room is bare
    Of silverware
    Do I care?

    October
    And Celtic rise
    And Rangers fall
    And we walk on
    And on.............

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:15, Len Brennan said…

    Ian in budapest, both points were raised by Mr Strachan on BBC site after the match yestday.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7032540.stm

    /Bishop B

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:15, EdwardUrsus said…

    McManus69 :- It's not a sign we are in denial, the front page of the site always shows three teams in the league, if Rangers are top it shows that and the two beneath them, if not then it shows the team above and the team below. I think it's the Celtic fans who will have a sense of denial probably two denied penalties :-) on the 20th

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:24, miketw10 said…

    At 08/10/07 10:51, Bhoy_Molloy said…

    I am on all for admin deleting ANY post that is personal as it has no place on here.

    Does that include unwarranted personal attacks on Celtic players too?

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:25, BigChipSuk said…

    That Brazilian diva is to be investigated too...

    Dida he really do that?!

    Let's hope he stays on his feet long enough to hear the verdict!

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:26, Big Wavy said…

    Edward : if Rangers are top it shows that and the two beneath them, if not then it shows the team above and the team below

    Ha ha ha….now that is petty……no matter which way it's justified.

    Why couldn't the two above be shown if there is only a space for three teams ?

    Big Wavy

    p.s In case the table is uninformative to the average Rangers fan, I can confirm you are actually THIRD currently.....:)

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:28, ian_in_budapest said…

    At 08/10/07 14:15, Len Brennan said…

    It was actually Chick Young who raised the issue and it was then attributed to Gordon Strachan:

    Chick Young and Co

    My point however is that we should be pursuing this strongly with an official complaint. This is the sort of shoddy adminstrative amateurism that can easily be eradicated from our game. Perhaps Celtic, other SPL clubs and/or the players union should threaten to sue referees where there is clear dereliction of duty.

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:30, Len Brennan said…

    I must confess I think we've found a real star in wee McDonald but I can't help but feel sorry for big Chris Killen.

    The guy has really had a hard time getting established in the side and as he's being seen as a backup for JVoH his chances have been really limited.

    The fact at the beginning of the season wee McDonald was suspended so everyone instantly thought he'd get a foot in before the weeman. But his injury from earlier in the year took longer than expected to heal and once wee McDonald got into the team his chances of dislodging him or JVoH was very slim.

    The injury to JVoH has now left the door open for Killen however I still think that Mr Strachan will try and get Big Jan back for the visit to Mordor and failing that I think he'll go for Jarosik ahead of Killen for his big match experience.

    I hope I'm wrong cause I think the goal he scored yesterday will drive the player onto bigger and better things, I'm not sure what the player would think if he was dropped from the forward role for a make-shift striker.


    /Bishop B

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:31, PJBhoynyc said…

    ian_in_budapest@14.01
    Very good point about the ball and the pitch..I was suprised no one else has mentioned it....
    And on that subject...
    Whatever happened to our poster The_Ball_Is Round_to_go_Around....?

    I would like to mention something about these Late Late shows.....
    Not specifically SuperMac's...No....
    I mean the Gaffer's.
    I noticed some posters complaining about him taking too long to put Jim O'Brien on yesterday....The CH67 commentators were concerned about it too...

    While the timing of his subs seems to have altered of late...It seems to me they work more often than not...

    I would be fascinated to know the percentage of wins Celtic have achieved after the Gaffer has observed the opposition and made his tactical switch. I refer to those occassions where defeat has been changed to victory.....

    The Gaffer is Very Astute.... And a Great Communicator!

    Know Your Enemy...CSC

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:33, terrybhoybudapest said…

    Ian , what happened to you yesterday , I even brought extra ciggies to the Caledonia coz I thought you might be there.

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:39, possilbhoy said…

    talkSPORT stating that both Dida & AC Milan are to be investigated re their conduct during the Celtic game.Tthis is all in relation to Diver's carrying on at the end of the game.


    Hail Hail

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:41, terrybhoybudapest said…

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7034017.stm

    Looks like Thursday is going to be an interesting day.

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:41, Big Wavy said…

    Len - I hope I'm wrong cause I think the goal he scored yesterday will drive the player onto bigger and better things, I'm not sure what the player would think if he was dropped from the forward role for a make-shift striker.

    I certainly think it would be a step backwards for the boss, killen and JJ if we went back to last season's plan for the makeshift big striker in JVOH's absence. I don't think he will and CK will play up there if a) Jan is unfit and b) we go there with 2 strikers.

    Didn't see the subs bench yesterday but was Sno and Teddy B in there ? Big Evander is still feeling his way back from injury but will surely want to build on last season's momentum, likewise with Teddy. Certainly beats the days recently when the bench was filled with Momo Sylla, Steve Guppy and David Fernandez.

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:45, U2_1888 said…

    Blantyre Kev,

    October....my copyrite lawyers have been alerted.

    Len Brennan,

    I've been hoping and hoping but, despite yesterday's intervention, my hopes for Chris Killen are fading. I will give him my full backing while he wears the hoops but I'm not sure what to make of him at all.

    He appears slow, not much of a first touch and, for a big lump of a lad, doesn't seem to win much in the air. His workrate is average at best. I'm not a great fan of Big Jan either, but at least his first touch is good and he knows where the goal is when given a bit of space.

    I hope I'm wrong about Killen, but I've yet to tick a single box on the centre forward checklist.

    The decision for WGS to make ahead of Ibrox is whether to take them on at their own type of game and try to counter their strengths or to place our preferred style against their preferred style and see which footballing culture wins.

    He will need to wait and see what casualties arise from the internationals for both camps but it will be interesting to see how the wee fella approaches it.

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:45, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Re the ball/pitch-it was the ex-player explaining what was going on to wee Chico that pointed out the problem with the ball's shape-which is presumably why AB wasn't able to do anything about it when it whizzed past him into the net.

    Anyways,this time last year:

    Celtic Pl 10 w8 d1 l1 +13 25 pts
    HofM Pl 9 w6 d1 l2 +9 19 pts
    Stills Pl 10 w4 d3 l3 +4 15 pts

    So in 2 weeks when it's table-toppers v bottom-potters at the Chateau D'espair we'll need another scrappy performance to bring home the three points.

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:52, Big Wavy said…

    Anybody else thinking that the charges against Milan and Dida were influenced somewhat by our chairman's comments late last week ?

    Does this development help or hinder us for leniency on Thursday ?

    Answers on a postcard.......

    Big pondering Wavy

     
  • At 08/10/07 14:54, miketw10 said…

    Where does Big Artur go for a crafty fag at half-time?

    I have visions of him running out to the front and scraping a match up the side of the Walfrid statue...!

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:03, ian_in_budapest said…

    At 08/10/07 14:33, terrybhoybudapest said…

    Terry, I was hungover from the night before and didn't fancy the long treck into Kaledonia. Living so close, you don't have that excuse for a non-appearance. Anyhow, with Kaledonia's master minshafter, Chris, on the loose, I might have lost it yesterday and bopped him. I'm sure he was encouraging Celtic onto greater tings during the game. Anyhow, probably better that I stayed home and kicked my computer instead. Oddly enough, although the performance was rank, I actually enjoyed the win as much as I did the Milan victory. I never fail to be immensely satisfied when we grind out a vistory in the dying minutes of a game. Even more so if we look like dropping three points and come roaring back.

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:05, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Potential list of sanctions on Thursday:

    http://www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/committespanels/committee=2.html

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:09, captain-2 said…

    Dear Paul67. Its me once again, (remember me from the Hemdani issue?) Well, it´s regarding Sno this time and what I´ve read on Skysports,,what do you think/know about this=?

    As always, good luck and thankyou

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:10, PJBhoynyc said…

    In view of the recent rollercoaster of emotions evident over the last few weeks on this blog and elsewhere....

    And that self evident truth that Pride comes before a Fall, a Trip or even a Stagger sometimes....

    A wee song for Gordon Strachan, Jim O'Brien and all the Bhoys....And of course supporters and bloggers...

    Keep It Real.....And We Will Be The Real Deal...

    Still Smiling....

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:13, BlantyreKev said…

    As far as I know Milan were asked to comment on why Dida was substituted. I imagine they were simply asked to do this by mail/fax etc and have now done this. UEFA opening disciplinary proceedings suggests to me that Milan's answer has been honest but implicates themselves and their own keeper.

    Very commendable if that is the case but when you consider the alternative is to try and get Lionel Hutz, attorney at law from the Simpsons to pur forward a case that he was in some way injured or unable to continue then perhaps best they just take the medicine, which will probaly be a very small fine and maybe suspension for Dida. This would be more palatable to the Milanese than to embarrass themselves further.

    Blantyre Kev, beancounter at work

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:20, antsman said…

    sno for me has a cheek

    i think he completely over-rates himself at times and the level of ability he has

    he came here as a nobody when feyernord, a smaller team than us didn't want him. now he is allegedly not happy he is not in the first team.

    i would sell him if the price was right

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:22, Len Brennan said…

    Just checking on wikipedia to see Chris Killen's goal ratio (which was 1 goal every 3 games) when I noticed that he turned 26 today. Nice way to celebrate it with his first goal for the hoops yesterday

    Anyway happy birthday big man, let's hope that you can live up to your billing and become the strikeforce that all fans hoped you and Skippy would.


    /Bishop B

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:23, Big Wavy said…

    Hi Antsman,

    Where you picking that up from fella ?

    Like you I'd be disappointed with that type of response...

    Cheers

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:28, U2_1888 said…

    UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body

    Dr Thomas Parti (Austria - Chairman)

    Jim Stjerne Hanses (Denmark)
    Jacques Antenen (Switzerland)
    Sandor Berzi (Hungary -if that's what HUN means??)

    John Delaney (Ireland)
    Emilio Garcia Silvero (Spain)
    Dr Rainer Koch (Germany)
    Maurizio Laudi (Italy)
    David Taylor (Scotland)
    Joel Wolff (Luxembourg)

    As there are no Portuguese or Ukranian reps I can see no vested interests which may go against us. Milan will not want us punished with 'behind closed doors' scenario as that would potentially benefit Shakthar to Milan's detriment, therefore the Italian won't be pushing for anything beyond a fine in my view.

    I suspect a fine and warning or, at worst, a fine with a suspended senetence.

    We are well used to looking after our good name abroad, it's a pity we now need to conciously look after it at Celtic Park. But if we must, then we must.

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:34, antsman said…

    big wavy - from sky sports courtesy of captain-2 's tip off

    Skysports.com understands a host of clubs are lining up moves for Celtic's Evander Sno.



    Sno is believed to be considering a move away from Parkhead after growing increasingly frustrated with his current lack of first-team action.


    The summer signings of Massimo Donati and Scott Brown have pushed Sno down the pecking order at Celtic and he has been forced to play a bit-part role so far this season.


    The news has alerted a plethora of clubs around Europe with sides from England, Spain and Holland all keeping tabs on Sno's situation.


    Sno enjoyed a fine debut season at Celtic last term, playing a key role in their double success and he is highly-rated within the corridors of Parkhead.


    Osasuna failed in a bid to sign Sno on loan during the summer transfer window, but they are believed to be ready to make a new move for the Dutchman in January.


    However, they could face a fight for the midfielder's signature, with several other teams showing an interest in the talented youngster.

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:34, Paul67 said…

    Big Wavy, we live in hope.

    I am sure the comments by Brian Quinn will not have had any influence on Uefa.

    Hi Captain-2, I have heard nothing about Sno moving in January. This sounds like his agent stirring something up. I am sure Celtic will deny any possibility of this at the moment to the media or to other clubs, but I would not discount the possibility that he will move in January. Celtic plan to recruit another midfield player then, if they do, Sno might become available.

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:36, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    U2-Vested interests that may go against us-step forward Scotland's own DTaylor..

    and that Austrian chairman..I'm getting a bad feeling about this..

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:39, miketw10 said…

    Antsman

    There are no quotes directly attributed to Evander.

    Agree with Paul, the use of the phrase SkySports.com understands... being the big giveaway.

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:39, big liam said…

    U2_1888 ,

    I am assured that Chris "Killer" Killen is known around edinburgh as the "Hunskelper general". This is good to hear.

    Having Killen in the squad means there will be no annual , Geoff Horsfield , Dion Dublin , kyle hava-lafferty during january transfer windows so at least this saves us the anguish and pain and wailing around christmas time.

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:41, Celtic_First said…

    Go on the John Delaney.

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:45, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    C1st-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Delaney_%28football_administrator%29

    Comfort and joy?

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:47, taggsybhoy said…

    While I'm in a paranoid mood, yesterday's Sunday Herald had its customary review of the midweek European matches.

    The centre spread had Rangers on the left and Celtic on the right. Both had similar amounts of content, but stylistically, the placing of something to the left, rather than the right is usually an indication of its importance. Anybody who writes for publication knows this. Readers read left to right.

    The only reason why Rangers may appear before Celtic in such a piece would be because alphabetically Rangers comes before Celtic. Or because Rangers are the Scottish champions and they deserve top billing.

    I know there are bigger issues in the world to get angry about, but sometimes its the wee things in life that annoy you the most! I'm still fuming at the spin BBC Scotland put on the idiot story last week and this has wound up my paranoia to new, unforeseen levels!

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:47, Big Wavy said…

    Paul67 said : Celtic plan to recruit another midfield player then, if they do, Sno might become available.

    Ahhhh Paul. My therapist told me to steer clear of statements made like this and there you go. My transfer window nervous tick has just started up again.

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:49, antsman said…

    mike

    going on various past comments from sco this woud not surprise me as i find himself to have a very high opinion of his ability

    I would take anything over £1M plus add ons for him

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:50, BlantyreKev said…

    taggsybhoy

    Rangers played on Tuesday, Celtic on Wednesday.

    Grow up.

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:53, U2_1888 said…

    big liam,

    I forgot about the 'hunskelper' box on the checklist. Ticked.

    I feel we played into Smith's hands last season by playing high balls into big Jan when the ONLY thing that Weir is good at is dealing with high balls. Having Killen up front at Ibrox would tempt us into the same mistaken approach, although we may need strength and height in our own box for set pieces.

    Kris Boyd v Bobo Balde.

    I would enjoy that almost as much as Henrik Larsson v Colin Hendry.

     
  • At 08/10/07 15:56, Len Brennan said…

    antsman,
    Would you be interested in a wee swap deal for Maloney in Januray perhaps??

    Just a wee thought! ;o)

    /Bishop B

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:03, antsman said…

    len

    i think its unlikely sno would interest martin he is not dynamic enough for the new look villa midfield

    certainly i would take that deal tho

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:08, Big Wavy said…

    Would you be interested in a wee swap deal for Maloney in Januray perhaps??

    ahhhhhhh, the penny drops with regards to Paul's teaser....of course.........like Martin O'Neill, I suppose I'd just forgotten about the little man :)

    Yep, only 2 and a half months until the daily "will he, won't he" saga starts up all over again.....Yippee....

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:26, benny said…

    I understand that SM has just bought a house in the west end.

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:27, Paul67 said…

    taggsybhoy, deep breath.

    Big Wavy, I did leave that one hanging a bit, sorry.

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:32, miketw10 said…

    Hard call regarding Maloney V Sno.

    Maloney can certainly make things happen on the pitch. At the same time, I'd want a lot more than £1m for Evander!

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:37, Big Wavy said…

    Miketw10,

    By the same process, how much would you pay for Maloney ?

    They aren't like for like players so hard to compare. If had to make a choice it would be wee Shaun.

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:41, miketw10 said…

    Big Wavy

    Agree with all you say!

    I don't reckon wee Shaun has improved his market value since moving to Birmingham, so I would expect to sign him for a sum roughly similar. Taking into account amorti... amortis.... a fall in value for not playing regularly at Villa!!!!!

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:46, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    The best predictor of arrivals/departures is in the club shop-so if anyone wants to pop into the Aston Vanilla shop and see whose in the BOGOF bin.I think the sulking Bulgar will be back in the Hoops before wee Shaun.

    Mike/Luther Perkins did you see the BBC2 rockumentary on tribute bands?Good stuff,not least the interview with Jimi Hendrix and his mum[white,Liverpudlian].She said'when you close your eyes it's just like listening to Jimi'

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:48, taggsybhoy said…

    Blantyrkev

    Yeah, I know I'm being childish. And that's the last 2 foot gimmee you're getting!

     
  • At 08/10/07 16:56, miketw10 said…

    DBBIA

    I was aware it was on but missed it. Our JC in the band told me he saw some of it yesterday and they were mostly dire!

    It's based in the Limelight Club in Crewe, which is near where he comes from originally. A good few of our agents are from that neck of the woods too.

    Regarding that tagline you quoted, it's not a million miles from our very own... Click on About The Band

     
  • At 08/10/07 17:02, setting free the bears said…

    Thank goodness some of us are not in charge of transfer activities. We are quoted millions for English League One Players but we would have sold Petrov for pennies, Pearson for a new set of strips, and would have paid passage for Beattie.

    Evander Sno is a promising player with CL experience. He may not have great pace but he has a long stride and does hold on to the ball even after inviting challenges. His confidence in his own ability is a good thing not a defect. Scott Brown has it too.

    I expect that injuries and suspensions will combine to give Evander another chance to claim a starting place. It's a good thing to have Jiri, Paul, Teddy and Evander challenging Skoosh and Massimo.

    The success of players like Pearson, Miller, Beattie and Maloney should ensure we don't sell cheap again. If Sno feels he must go, he should go for a good price.

     
  • At 08/10/07 17:04, tinytim said…

    Great short studio interview with Neil Lennon from yesterday's Sky Sports.

    The man clearly loves the the Hoops.

    Anyone wishing to see it should follow Kano's link at 13.09

     
  • At 08/10/07 17:04, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Luther Perkins is just such a better alias than Robin/Barry/Maurice Gibb-but now when I hear a song I really like and don't know who wrote it if I go with the Gibbs and/or CStevens I'm usually right.

    However,they can't play right back.What we need is a DFMcgrain'tribute footballer'to step into the breech.

    We're all closing our eyes when the current fullbacks get the ball anyway,so who would know.

     
  • At 08/10/07 17:15, TontineTim said…

    It was a great header which beat the goalkeeper at a tight angle to prevent what would have been the greatest result in borders football for 40 years.....

    *Love it Paul although if the truth be told that one was better as the huns punished their prominent strikers and played three half backs as the inside forward trio in the ECWC Final that same season which probably cost them the victory.

    As for yesterday this was great victory, the previous day the huns were flat in a game they should have been capable of rising to just as we did against the same side away in a similar fixture. The only difference was we had been well and truly gubbed in the midweek and not flattered to deceived with three breakaways. As we all know if it hadn’t been for the Holy Goalie we would have taken all 3 points.

    Our game was a recipe for disaster as we also came off an emotional victory for a tricky game against a fired up opposition that saw us again behind again because of the HG and chasing the game. All credit to this young Celtic team, including a young G83 lhad whose introduction at ML2 swung the game for us, as they battled on for the victory.

    If MON’s much venerated and highly paid side had shown as much tenacity in May 2005 as yesterdays then we would be looking at 5-in-a-row and not worrying about our co-efficient as Bratislava would never have happened.

    As I’ve said before we are a really young side and still on the learning curve, we will probably drop silly points against inferior opposition. No different than the young Lions losing at Annfield (the Stirling version), and getting gubbed 2-6 and 1-5 at Brockville and East End Park respectively although in their defense the latter was 4 days after beating the same side in the Scottish Cup Final.

    Hopefully with the experience we are gaining we can end our away goal sieve in a couple of weeks as well as our dismal away Champions League run.

    Paul has just teased us with the possibility of another midfielder coming in, hopefully one with experience to guide the YCT, a Bertie Auld clone would be nice. Faddie for the Gravedigger, he has the EPL experience as well as the wee Ten Thirty cheek and don’t forget that the latter was sent packing fae CP because of disciplinary concerns. He came back a we bit oulder but a hell of a lot wiser as for his disciplinary record, he still managed tae break the england captain’s jaw while down there.

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:01, possilbhoy said…

    Someone mentioned a Danny McGrain clone for right back earlier. What about Danny McGrain for right back just now.He's coaching the young Bhoys so is probably still as fit & fast as Paul Telfer was.Get him in & give him a jersey.His experience could be invaluable.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:01, andycolo said…

    Scottish Leaf at 13.37 referred to rule 18 requiring the use of commonsense by a referee. He was correct although this is an unwritten rule, rule 17 being the last. The actual rule regarding celebrations however is explicit.

    Rule 12 among other passages includes the following direction to referees

    While it is permissible for a player to demonstrate his joy when a goal has been scored, the celebration must not be excessive.
    Reasonable celebrations are allowed, but the practice of choreographed celebrations is not to be encouraged when it results in excessive time-wasting and referees are instructed to intervene in such cases.
    A player must be cautioned if:
    • in the opinion of the referee, he makes gestures which are provocative,
    derisory or inflammatory
    • he climbs on to a perimeter fence to celebrate a goal being
    scored
    • he removes his shirt or covers his head with his shirt.
    • he covers his head or face with a mask or other similar item
    Leaving the field of play to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence in itself but it is essential that players return to the field of play as soon
    as possible.
    Referees are expected to act in a preventative manner and to exercise
    common sense in dealing with the celebration of a goal.

    Given the goal was a winner ascored in the final minute to put his team top of the league could Winters' yellow card be fairly described as falling within the guidelines set out, particularly the final section? Apart from missing the red card there were several other instances where I felt his refereeing was inconsistent.
    This going to be a long season and we can expect more of this I feel.

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:02, EdwardUrsus said…

    Hi Paul,

    I don't know if this has been posted already, if so then sorry about it but I thought it may be of interest to posters.

    Celtic thrown out European cup?

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:02, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Tinytim-I liked the quote about the'rawness and passion'at CP'despite the commercialism'

    Lenny should blog on here!

    BhoyMolloy-thanx for the info on Donegal Celtic.They certainly will be going on the list of wee Celts.
    They have overcome a lot of adversity[from all sides!]in getting their team going and the proposed changes to Irish football will give them more mountains to climb.

    Now if we wanted to play a testimonial for a worthy cause..

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:06, Collie said…

    Big Wavy

    Na... Der wull be no Maloney in da Christmas Sock...!
    Paul is No REFERRING, tae Him at awe..
    Maloney is tainted.. he's whit's known as a SHLOCK!

    Why is he no playin' regular fur Aston?

    Ah really dinnae know!

    But, if he wiz any good... he wid be playin'!
    IS DAT NO REALLY SO?

    Deep doon in yer hert... wid ye gie him a regular stert?
    A guy who is really disnae know his ain mind,

    An' hiz a loat o' Psychological Baggage...
    We dinna need any mair o' dat kind!

    Let sleepin' dugs lie,furget aboot Him....
    It's jist Pie in da Sky!

    Who Paul hiz in mind.. is a Hoarse o' a different hue...
    If it's da same wan dat Ah think...
    Den it wull cause a fine Hullabaloo!

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:09, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    EdU-The difference between the Inter/Denmark incidents,and the appearance of the RMcHendryLoyal is that the games were abandoned-unlike Wednesday.

    A fine,+/- a threat of more severe penalties if there is a repeat,would be fair.

    It's one idiot out of 60.000,not a rerun of Barcelona'72;~@

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:14, EdwardUrsus said…

    DBBIA :- I agree with you, I said that in a post shortly after the game, I was pointing the article out not endorsing it :-)

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:16, TontineTim said…

    As far as I'm concerned shaun maloney is the same as billy miller, charlie nick and lou macari, I don’t feel the same about Stan Petrov, Kenny Dalglish and Davie Hay, different circumstances and the latter two both fell foul of the Big Mhan.

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:32, Collie said…

    Ed

    Ah'm surprised at ye,pal...
    Are ye no jist engaging in stirring da merde?

    Da Headline o' da Piece...is a classical demonstration, o' da DEPLORABLE, Big "C"

    Fur it concerned a Question dat wiz simply RHETORICAL!
    Ye see?

    Next time ye come across an' article sae Diggy..

    Keep it tae yersel',pal....

    Fur as far as OOR INTEREST GOES....
    It's Soitenly, Nae Biggie!

    collie.

    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:35, winningemmell said…

    dontbratt -

    in a previous era, yes I'd imagine. The Lud was the darnelist drinking den of Craigneuk some years back.

    TontineTim -

    you have fallen into the trap set by Tully57. Fir Park is in ML1, Motherwell. If they were based in ML2 they would be The Stealmen not the The Steelmen.


    Result just in....

    ML 2 ML 1

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:43, Trotternish said…

    A couple of days ago someone on here quoted David Taylor, roughly to the effect that Dida's behaviour would not stop Celtic from being "hammered" by UEFA. This is the David Taylor who is on UEFA's disciplinary committee. If the quote is correct, then surely the disciplinary proceedings have already been prejudiced. Can Celtic expect fair treatment with this man on the committee?

     
  • At 08/10/07 18:53, EdwardUrsus said…

    Collie :- As the full headline was too big for a link I simply used some of the words from it, if they gave the wrong impression that was ever my intention ;-) Though in my defece I would cite your cotterie campadre who states the "bic C" is good for the blog.

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:07, The Spanish Inquisition said…

    EdwardUrsas~18.02
    Only a hun would have posted that 4 day old tosh.

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:09, TerryO'Neill said…

    U2 1888 you can rest easy the delegates of the countries(Taylor,Italian) involved in any disciplinary matter do not sit in on the case.

    Mark McGee made an interesting observation on the Milan game

    "Against AC Milan at Celtic Park on Wednesday, Gordon Strachan utilised Scott Brown's energy and pace in a similar role, causing Andrea Pirlo frustration all evening and forcing the brilliant Italian playmaker out from his familiar deep-lying position and into wider midfield areas. By doing that, Strachan and Brown almost nullified Pirlo's influence on the match."

    Had a look at this time last season
    After 9 league games we had scored
    15 conceded 5

    First 9 league games this season
    Scored 29 conceded 7

    Wits no tae like ?

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:21, Curly said…

    Evening all -

    Thought there was a postie's strike on? Finally made it home from work to find half a dozen letters behind the door!

    Inland Revenue begging letter - bin!
    Bill from my gardener (no, I am not Chennaiseabird, I simply hate gardening) - cheque will be sent off tonight.
    RNLI Catalogue (why not a dogalogue?) - will look at that tomorrow.
    A letter from the Golf Club returning my annual application form, "to allow it to be completed. . . . . ". Mmmmmm?

    Next to where it said "Signature", I had signed it. Against the "Name" box, I had written "Curly", and opposite "D.O.B." I had placed "No"! What's the matter with that? ;O)

    Ucyrl

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:25, EdwardUrsus said…

    TSI :- As no one else has posted it then you are probably correct :-)

    E.U Hunsrusrsc

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:27, andycolo said…

    Tontime Tim
    There was no fall out between Kenny Dalglish and Jock Stein. A friend of mine was heavily involved in negotiations aimed at keeping Kenny at Parkhead which ultimately failed. The reason for his departure lay elsewhere.

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:27, twelfthman said…

    apologies in advance CQN'rs.I don't post often.When I do..I'm drunk.I am off work on the sick for the next three days. I am armed to the teeth with cloves and lemons and nothing better to do. I am neither Happy clapper nor mineshafter but I have much to say.Be warned.

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:34, ElDiegoBhoy said…

    GG

    How was your weekend with the Lions?

    Apologies if you've already posted on this subject.

    This is going to be a long 12 or so days until the next Celtic game.

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:35, sparkypaul said…

    A bit off topic but can anyone help with pc problem. Im getting pop ups which seem to be relevant to what is being viewed on the internet i.e. if you view amazon etc a pop up for online shopping appears. Tried the usual spyware programs like adaware and spysweeper but nothing seems to be working. Some help would be much appreciated as my daughter is driving me mad.

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:41, TerryO'Neill said…

    Sparkypaul i use a free pop up stopper from panicware.com works fine.

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:46, Collie said…

    Ed


    Da Big "C" has it's place.
    Der is no question o' dat....
    It Spices up Stories.. it Spices up Chat!

    It's use oan a Blog...is a NOTABLE ingredient...
    We use it OORSELVES...
    BUT ONLY WHEN WE THINK IT IS EXPEDIENT!

    A BLOG(!!!)completely, WITHOOT IT..
    Wid be Blase and Dry...

    Wull we continue tae use it?

    Da answer is....

    OCH... AYE!

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

    HOOOOOOOEVVVAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

    But, it's use by da JOURNOS it's used as a Club..!!!!!!!!

    To DENIGRATE...DA CELTIC...
    AND DAT, IS DA RUB!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:48, twelfthman said…

    Anyway. How'bout this to start? Lets all sing Jari's name next time! A wee bit of confidence and who knows what we could see from this bhoy...?

     
  • At 08/10/07 19:52, ElDiegoBhoy said…

    Given our current right back problems are we allowed to recall Adam Virgo?

    havinalaffcsc

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:06, noel90 said…

    Heard the Hibs fans were singing " YOU COULDNY BUY SCOTT BROWN !!! " to the Rangers support on saturday.



    Good one.

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:08, Hiro_Nakamura said…

    Noticed some speculation of the wishful thinking variety last week, re the UEFA investigation, suggesting Celtic's punishment could be light because of Dida's performance.

    It strikes me that it's more likely that Dida's punishment will be of the community service variety and Celtic will be hammered ( as the Voice of A Football loves to opine), as the defence will be based on Dida's previous trauma with crowd trouble which has psychologically scarred him, and that it wouldn't have happened if the terrible Scots had more effectively stewarded their barbaric fans.

    I suspect UEFA's announcement today is of the window dressing type.

    A lot of talk in the press about Bottler Brown, but he comes a poor second to Bottler Brian Winter

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:13, Bloke109 said…

    The Voice of a Football has turned the focus of his ire to taxi drivers. Apparently the taxi to take him to STV last week was half an hour late. When McNee discussed this with the driver, he was told 'most of the drivers are Celtic fans, so they're watching the game'. McNee then lambasted the Council and demanded they correct this and make sure there are enough taxi drivers on at any given time to meet demand.

    On my shelf sits 'And you'll never walk alone', published by Impulse and written by a guy called Gerry McNee. Are they by chance related?

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:14, Collie said…

    Hiro Nakamura

    Celtic's punishment?
    Don't Mak me LAUGH!

    A wee SLAP oan da Wrist, wull be it's full Extent....WE MAINTAIN!

    An' a Grim Warnin' of WOISE!...
    If it happens again!

    collie
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:20, twelfthman said…

    I wrote a letter to MON at the time..re. henriks replacement. His name then, as it is now, is Mahmoud Zidane from Mainz in germany. Skippy is a bonus in much the same way as Chris Sutton was a bonus..... Happydaysaheadcsc

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:23, sparkypaul said…

    Thanks Terry it seems to be working. Its blocking everything but i can live with that.Cheers

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:24, Hiro_Nakamura said…

    Collie


    This is UEFA we're dealing with, and wee Davie Taylor won't want to be seen favouring ( ha ha ) a Scottish team.

    And your reply didnae rhyme or scan, dida it?

    Blank verse and iambic pentameters next time please.

    Could do better.

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:29, noel90 said…

    The

    Police

    At

    Croke


    Park


    http://i23.tinypic.com/2gt9q4i.jpg

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:34, VargasShampoo said…

    Yesterday's game was torture & the good football we've seen so far this season went oot the windae. On reflection though i think you just need to hold your hands up & say that most of the players had an off day yet we still somehow managed to conjur up a victory. We've seen plenty of games like this down the years even when MON was the boss, so i can live with it.

    What i would say is that it's an insult to the Celtic support & Scott MacDonald that we don't posess a proper Centre Forward. MacDonald has shown in such a short period of time that he knows where the net is, he also knows how to find a team mate in the final third (take note Aiden). If MacDonald were to find himself in the company of a quality Strike Partner, we would romp the league again this season, so it's a miracle that he's acheiving so much playing beside the likes of Jan Fraudster of Hesselink & that Aussie Rules player we had on yesterday.

    Anyway i'd rather not be third

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:36, Paul67 said…

    Twelfthman, looking forward to your work.

    EDB, no, I think you will get a game before Adam.

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:42, noel90 said…

    Whoops !

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:45, noel90 said…

    The Police At Croke Park

    not my video.......

     
  • At 08/10/07 20:54, Collie said…

    Hiro Nakamura


    Here is an explanation, as to my stated confidence that a light sentence will be handed down to the Celts....

    Da Press has exaggerated da incident oan der part,

    People, as usual, have been fooled
    by der downright BULL.. right from the start!

    Da Journos had it, dat Dida had received a SLAP OAN DA FACE!

    Dis is a Lie!... it wiz definitely NOT DA CASE!

    Dey made it oot tae be a Pukka ASSAULT!

    In ma humble opinion... It's time dat bring DIS LIE TAE A HALT!!!

    In reality????... it wiz a GENTLE TAP, OAN DIDA'S SHOULDER!!...

    A Gesture of COMMISERATION...
    WHICH MAKS DER LIE ....EVEN BOLDER!


    Da Euro Investigators...dey ur Intelligent Men!

    Dey dinnae come up da Clyde in a Banana Boat!

    Dey ur No dat Stupid...Dey ur Wise Guys..... YE KEN?

    An' da Papers ur still reportin' dat it wiz a SLAP!!!!!!!!!
    Dey ur jist oot tae cause us fans, tae Panic an' Flap

    BUT,DEY CANNY CHINGE DA TRUT' O' DA MATTER....

    FUR IT WIZ ONLEE....

    A TAP!

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:07, TerryO'Neill said…

    Vargasshampoo ah hiv tae disagree wae yae.
    We signed a proper centre forward
    Scott McDonald.

    As for Big Jan and Aiden.

    Big Jan in ma opinion is a goalscorer.To me he looks unfit and lacking the strength that he displayed when he first arrived.

    Is it it possible he has played when less than fit an carrying an injury,looks like it.
    He also looks to me that he may have lost some weight too quickly an perhaps strength a long with it.An know that sounds laughable but av heard it said that guys like Dave McKay/John Hartson lost strength when they lost weight.
    Al reserve ma judgement for the noo on our joint top scorer .

    Aiden found Scott McDonald for the second goal.Against Dundee Utd he was outstanding.

    Aiden can pick a pass with the best of them,sure he frustrates tell me a wide man who doesnt.

    Aiden has been wannae oor stars this term.

    sparkypaul glad to be of help.

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:08, pfayr said…

    varga

    i think JVOH gets taken for a battling centre forward because of his hieght .
    anyone who has any knowledge of Dutch football consistently advised that he is not a target man

    he is agood finisher and five goals this season is hardly derisory

    killen on the other hand does not even look like a football player , no touch and apart from his goal yesterday was struggling to hit a bovine mammal with a stringed instrument

    of course i`ll give him all the support i can muster but can`t help think that he is a regression from Beattie and Miller ...a cheap option , but he is short of match practice and recovering from a serious injury so i hope i`m wrong

    his basic ball skills don`t look good

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:24, twelfthman said…

    Paul, thank you.On Lee Naylor: lets give the bhoy a break! nobody has been cursing his mistakes mnore than me..but look into this bhoys eyes!! He wants to win and with some backing he'll get there. I thought you were a wee bit hard on the holy goalie Paul. Has he not built up a serious amount of credits to cover the odd bit of ectentrinity?

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:24, Hiro_Nakamura said…

    Collie


    Totally agree with your observations of the incident.

    However, UEFA will not miss the opportunity to act tough against a wee di da diddy country with little financial clout, and posture like di da big gorgonzola as you might put it

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:24, McGraininSpain said…

    Eduardo Oso

    Did you see this one?

    Nacho Novo

    I mean fair do's. The boy's got his international career over here to consider.

    McGrain

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:26, twelfthman said…

    etcentricity

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:26, ~Kevtic said…

    pfayr

    The ball skills of both Miller and Beattie left alot to be desired at times.
    As for cheap replacements. McDonald's value was less than Beattie's but will give a better goal return (not to mention overall standard of play) then both Miller and Beattie combined.
    I think Killen would benefit from early crosses into the box but our wide men seem incapable of doing this. Killen I believe was a gamble but one well worth taking.

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:27, Celtic_First said…

    I don't think Milan will find it too hard to defend themselves against the suggestion that they may have breached clause 5, the one that refers to upholding the spirit of the game and all that.

    They would only be able to go on what Dida told them while lying on the ground. If he told them he'd been struck and couldn't continue, they'd have to take it at face value.

    As soon as they learned he was at it, they admitted as much and were quick to say they didn't want to take the matter any further.

    By the same token, Celtic were quick to accept the clear failure to uphold security and took swift action against Robert McHendry.

    Everyone agrees what happened, rendering comparisons with Rapid Vienna null and void.

    Everyone knows what did and did not take place. It would, therefore, be a nonsense for UEFA to fan the flames again and play the two clubs off against one another.

    Dida himself must now, at least at the UEFA hearing, make the right noises and apologise for over-reacting in the heat of the moment. I hope he doesn't get fined or suspended. I hope Milan face no sanction. They deserve as much for the way they reacted.

    I think it would be very unfair to Celtic if we received anything more than an Anderlecht-sized fine.

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:33, ElDiegoBhoy said…

    tmc

    I recall your delight when Donatti signed.

    Not a loaded question, how do you feel he has done in these early months?

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:45, twelfthman said…

    Simoun Poulsen (FC Midtjylland) and Michael Gravgaard (FC København) can be got for next to nothing in January...

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:45, EdwardUrsus said…

    Collie & CelticFirst :- I agree with both of you and think it will be a token fine along the lines of the Rangers one when the pitch was invaded against Happoel. Around 4.4 thousand if I recall correctly

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:46, Hiro_Nakamura said…

    Celtic First

    Agree with you.

    UEFA have been quoted as being concerned with the actions/behaviour of Celtic supporters- plural.

    I thought there was only 1 involved. Were there other incidents?
    It will be interesting to see the case which is to be made by UEFA's "prosecutors" - William Gaillard's phrase.

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:48, twelfthman said…

    ...sickofseeingsomanyyoungdanesgoingtodutchfootballcsc

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:50, pfayr said…

    kevtic

    Killen is obviously a gamble , what i was alluding to was that we went for a cheap , unproven, injured option ...should we not have been aiming higher

    for what it`s worth i thought niether Beattie nor miller were good enough for us

    sadly i don`t think Killen (to date)is any better

    on wee Scott i was happy enough with his signing , personally i was expecting a big name to come in and for Scott to play back up....what can i say you would not have got any more from a £5M player

    the wee guy is a STAR

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:50, ~Kevtic said…

    Whatever hapens on Thursday the club has got to take action to prevent fans from over celebrating, ie coming onto the track. For european matches it may be wise not to sell the first two rows to reduce the chances of it happening again.

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:51, thismancraig said…

    EDB

    Correct, I was ecstatic to sign not only an Italian but an Italian midfielder.

    The early signs, I think, are promising. He contributes alot and is an excellent footballer. The midfield has been our best unit thus far and he has played a part in this. He reminds me alot of Nakamura when he first arrived in that away from home he sometimes looks as though he is taking a step back to take it all in!

    Compare and contrast the media reaction to him and Cuellar settling in to their new country - it tells you a thing or two!!!!

    How do you think he is doing?

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:51, Celtic_First said…

    When a Real Madrid fan ran onto the pitch at Hampden during the Champions' League final of 2002, did David Taylor fine himself?

    I think we should be told.

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:51, taggsybhoy said…

    Paranoia subsided somewhat from earlier. Mrs taggsybhoy got me a nice Malbec. I'll tell her this joke and share it with you!

    An atheist was walking through the woods.
    'What majestic trees'!
    'What powerful rivers'!
    'What beautiful animals'!
    He said to himself.
    As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the
    bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly charge
    towards him.

    He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder &
    saw that the bear was closing in on him.

    He looked over his shoulder again, & the bear was even closer. He tripped & fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but
    saw that the bear was right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw & raising his right paw to strike him. At that instant the Atheist cried out, 'Oh my God!'

    Time Stopped.

    The bear froze.
    The forest was silent.
    As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky.
    'You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I don't exist and even credit creation to cosmic accident.' 'Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer'?

    The atheist looked directly into the light, 'It would be
    hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps You could make the BEAR a Christian'?

    'Very Well,' said the voice.
    The light went out.
    The sounds of the forest resumed.
    And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head & spoke: 'Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen.'

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:53, ElDiegoBhoy said…

    twelfthman

    I would expect any quality young Danish players to be brought to Celtic's attention by Morten Wieghorst.

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:54, Paul67 said…

    Twelfthman, Artur has built up credit, but that will not keep any clean sheets for us. As I said, it is not time to panic, but his form has dropped.

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:59, ~Kevtic said…

    pfayr

    Absolutely agree "you would not have got any more from a £5M player"

    I think we have a few players like that eg Boruc, Mick.

    Noramlly I would put Nakamura in this group but sadly Naka's form is cause for concern. Summed up by his free kicks of late, all of which are hitting the wall.
    Last year on days like we had yesterday he was the one that delivered more than most but here we are in October and his season just hasn't started.

     
  • At 08/10/07 21:59, VargasShampoo said…

    Terence & Pfayr - The argument that Venegoor is a goalscorer doesn't wash with me at all. I've seen ordinary Celtic Strikers like Andy Payton/Tommy Coyne/Gerry Creaney/Maciej Zurawski etc return a good goal ratio in the hoops. That to me is par for the course when you're a Striker at Celtic particularly with the amount of chances we create in games.

    We paid a Champions League team (PSV Eindhoven) a fair amount of dosh for the Dutchman & we anticipated getting a Striker who could make a difference in the big European games & against the Rangers.

    After starting so well against Man Utd at Old Trafford, he then proceeded to miss games through injury against Copenhagen & Benfica. We basically qualified for the last 16 without him. In the two AC Milan games that followed he was anonymous.

    Every time we have played Rangers he has been anonymous & he was marked out of the last 2 Old Firm meetings by David Weir who never broke sweat

    In the Scottish Cup Final he was marked out of the full game by Dunfermline's erratic Centre half - Bamba - this guy made oor Bobo look like a sophisticated Centre half.

    Since he joined we've heard all these tales that he's carrying an injury or he's lost weight, but it's apparent to me that he lacks the grit & application that his strike partner Scott MacDonald has given us in a space of a few months. I could live with this if Venegoor could combine goals in big games with sublime craft in the final third - in the mould of a Viduka, Kanu, Ibrahamivic or Anelka, but he doesn't give us this either. Don't get me wrong i'm not expecting him to be a bullish Centre like Sutton/Hartson but i feel that he is a major let down & this is largely down to his application.

    There is no case for the Aussie Rules guy, other than just to get behind him in the hoops, but i have my fears about his lack of quality - i hope i'm wrong.

    McGeady has been really impressive this year & i thought he was outstanding in the Dundee Utd game & played well against AC Milan. However against Gretna we were back to the Aiden of old - with his daft pirouttes & Unicycle antics on the wing. He has the skill & brains to make a difference, lets hope we see it at Ibrox.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:01, ElDiegoBhoy said…

    tmc

    I'm fully with you on Donatti.

    I believe he is giving a very fair account of himself in these early months.

    I also think he is increasingly coming to understand how big a club we are and the high level of expectation we have.

    So many players coming to Celtic have not understood fully what they've signed up for.

    Well he does now.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:01, WizardofOz said…

    Evenin all.
    In work today, you could see just how much the weekends results were hurting the dark side supporters, but especially ours.
    The concensus seems to be that Wattie has found a formula that he likes (5-4-1) and he will stick to it, no matter what. It's a tactic primarly designed to make a team hard to beat.
    As I said last week, all well and good until you lose the first goal. According to those who were there, as soon as Hibs scored, there was a collective acceptance that "the-gemme's-a-bogey".The dark side supporters seem to realise that their side struggle to fight back, despite what the redtops would have us believe about team spirit over by.
    Ours was a fighting victory, achieved despite of a poor team performance, appaling underfoot conditions and yet another all too familiar refereeing display.
    Referees will cause us more bother than the rest of the league put together. 'Twas ever thus.

    On Killen, he did not look great, but why single him out. I would only have given pass marks to Skippy. The rest were way below average. But you know what, Killen did what he is out there to do. He never gave up and scored a very nicely judged header. Well done to him.
    Roll on Greyskull on the 20th.
    When I should be back suitably tanned and refreshed after a week on the Costa del crime.

    Hail hail.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:04, antsman said…

    el diego/tmc

    do you both think there is much more to come from massimo?

    one thing i notice is he tends to do alot more forward running than brown and brown is a bit more tactically disciplined

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:04, pfayr said…

    kevtic

    naka was just back from injury

    playing against a group of marauding hatchet merchants on a pitch which resembled an agricultural show ground ( post show) and playing with an alledgedly misshapen ball

    there must have something in the conditions yesterday as we were to a man ( save wee Scott) pants

    form is temporary class is permanent

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:08, Keving said…

    new post on www.thelordofthewing.blogspot.com

    have the men in black reached a new low wie Brian Winter....?

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:09, Sean South said…

    AS someone inherently opposed to sectarianism and bigotry in all its forms I was surprised to see that Brian Quinn has invited DUP politician Gregory Campbell to attend a game at Parkhead after he was allegedly taunted by some Celtic fans on a ferry from Scotland to Northern Ireland in September.

    In any normal situation I would have no qualms about Quinn offering an apology to someone who had been the victim of bigoted behaviour, but Gregory Campbell's anti-Catholicism and public support for the Orange Order make him no ordinary "victim."

    A man who has spewed forth anti-Catholic sentiments throughout his political career surely can't expect a welcome from the followers of a football club with a massive Catholic support just as a BNP politician would be highly unlikely to get a friendly reception in an Afro-Caribbean area such as Brixton.

    Has Brian Quinn actually checked out the credentials of the Paisleyite he is inviting to Parkhead?

    Would this be the same Gregory Campbell who is infamous for his rabid anti-Catholic views and is a member of Ian Paisley's Free Presbyterian "church that claims the Roman Catholic faith is incompatible with Christianity?

    The same Gregory Campbell that insisted in his maiden speech in the Commons that Orangemen should be allowed to march down the solidly Catholic Garvaghy Road?

    Campbell supports the propaganda of the Paisley "church" that the Roman Catholic Church is the ‘whore of Babylon’ or ‘mother of Harlots’.

    The Pope according to the disciples of Paisley's church is the ‘anti-Christ’ mentioned in the Bible and Catholics are therefore followers of the anti- Christ.

    Do Gregory Campbell and his ilk really believe he can espouse such un-Christian views and rail against Catholics with complete immunity and without any response?

    It is a tantamount to a Ku Klux Klan member who has preached of the inferiority of Afro-Caribbeans being confronted on a Mississippi steamer by the very people whose race and ethnicity he has denigrated.

    This hate-filled bile of Paisley and his followers has no place in a civilised society. So why give this anti-Catholic mob credence by inviting one of their purveyors of sectarianism to Celtic Park?

    Give this man's track record the first apology should come from Gregory Campbell and the Free Presbyterians for denouncing the Catholic religion and its followers.

    Brian Quinn may be attempting to be a diplomat but I don't think many Celtic fans will feel like making Campbell welcome.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:10, U2_1888 said…

    Celtic First,

    And when the serial streaker done his stuff in Seville were UEFA fined by UEFA??

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:13, WizardofOz said…

    And that should have read 4-5-1.
    My bad.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:13, pfayr said…

    varga

    your are accurate re JVOH being marked well by Weir and bamba ...imo it`s because he is simply not a target man and we expect him to be

    we only spent £3m on him hardly a fortune ,we got that for that mug Miller

    i don`t it`s fair to compare any striker to wee Scott he works harder than any player and is more determined than any player i`ve seen

    JVOH will get you 20 goals a season ..good enough for me

    i thought he showed up well against Spartak and worked really hard to grind out a result for us in Dundee

    pfayr ..JVOH fan

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:15, andycolo said…

    I have been favourably impressed with Mo. I dont think Scotty is more disciplined necessarily, its just that he has more gas in the tank to get to where he needs to be. Mo has the ability to take the ball in tight situations and send it, sometimes long distances, to a free man. He also has the typical Italian midfielders hard mentality. At one stage Gretna were breaking forward and Mo brought the man down, gently, in the centre circle and the commentator described his action as cynical. I had to agree and approved wholeheartedly. No room for sentiment in the midfield jungle.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:16, John said…

    missed the milan game as was lst night in Lesbos and couldnt persuade the wife + mother in law + sister in law to sit in a pub to watch it. Saw the score when got back to the hotel bar and went laldy in front of the mainly liverpool fans who were queueing for the noose.

    Masonic consipracy, got back to gatwick and bought a daily record but it was an early edition and instead of a report on the game had a 6 SIX pager on the rangers game.

    Thoughts on Celtics punishment, it i think will have to be a fine for the following reasons and i think these reasons are why Milan arent making an issue of it.

    its a group stage so decisions will affect other teams

    a closed stadium for the next home game will benefit Benfica and therefore possibly punish Milan.

    a points deduction will punish Benfica and Shaktar

    a replay will cause fixture problems for Milan with the world club championship coming up. Also imagine if they lose the replay by more.. If they won the replay then it punishes the other two...

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:16, John said…

    missed the milan game as was lst night in Lesbos and couldnt persuade the wife + mother in law + sister in law to sit in a pub to watch it. Saw the score when got back to the hotel bar and went laldy in front of the mainly liverpool fans who were queueing for the noose.

    Masonic consipracy, got back to gatwick and bought a daily record but it was an early edition and instead of a report on the game had a 6 SIX pager on the rangers game.

    Thoughts on Celtics punishment, it i think will have to be a fine for the following reasons and i think these reasons are why Milan arent making an issue of it.

    its a group stage so decisions will affect other teams

    a closed stadium for the next home game will benefit Benfica and therefore possibly punish Milan.

    a points deduction will punish Benfica and Shaktar

    a replay will cause fixture problems for Milan with the world club championship coming up. Also imagine if they lose the replay by more.. If they won the replay then it punishes the other two...

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:19, Celtic_First said…

    u2

    I hadn't realised, but that guy also came onto the field at Hampden. It was before the watershed, so they didn't show it.

    The Liverpool guy interrupted play and put the ball into the Bayer Leverkusen net (ruled offside).

    The Real Madrid fan ran up to, and made contact with, Roberto Carlos.

    Afterwards, UEFA chief executive, Gerhard Aigner, praised the organisation at Hampden but referred to the pitch incursions when he said: "It didn't spoil things but it was the one little criticism I would have."

    The streaker got a fine in court of £200. The Real Madrid fan apologised in court and got off with an admonishment (or is it admonition? Blindlemon will be shocked that I don't know).

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:21, greenlion2 said…

    PFAYR intersting on Jan when we were signing him I was working with a lot of Dutch guys and I aksed their opinion of him they said the opposite of you and that he was a link man and not a big goal scorer. I posted that at the time. I think as we saw with Pierre when he came to us at first we punted high balls at him but he preferred tha ball to feet the same way I believe Jan likes it as well.

    EDB and TMC on Massimo I think he plays better at home and he see's a pass very quickly. I think he just needs to get his hea dround that everyteam we play will be in around him especially on tight pitches.

    Sean South We should get Campbell to do the paradise windfall ...if he gets a letter for me I may change my opinion of him.....

    Right im goign abck to listen to what Neil said in Kano's link.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:21, Collie said…

    Paul

    Tae hiv an OCCASIONAL DRAP in Form, is a Natural Consequence o' da Human Condition...

    Da fact dat Artur is experiencing a Slight dip in Form...
    It FAUR,FAUR from predicting dat HE IS ON DA ROAD TAE PERDITION!

    Even masel'....

    Hush! Is da Boss Listenin'? Ah dinna waant HIM tae hear!

    Ah've bin known tae Drap a Few Clangers...an' spilt ma share o' Beer!

    In makin' CERTAIN Staff Selections, Ah kin be faulted,I Fear!

    Whose tepid Performances hiv Faltered....an' hiv no WOIKED OOT TOO WEEL,My Deah!

    Boattom line....

    Tae err is onlee, too Human...
    An' tae Forgie....is...?

    You fill in da Line!

    Artur is ma Darlin' Bhoy!

    REMEMBER!

    He HIZ SAVED US .....

    TIME EFTER TIME!

    collie.

    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:23, pfayr said…

    sean south

    couldn`t imagine DR JR inviting that bigot to CP could you

    why do we have to constantly try to ingratiate ourselves with everyone (dida apart )

    that bigot should be left to fester in his own bile

    not impressed

    who`ll be next some BNP member because fans abused him on a bus

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:23, macjay said…

    E.U. Eddie..18.53......in my defece....Freudian slip?hotmail.com

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:27, pfayr said…

    GL2

    you may be correct re JVOH

    but he was not and is not a target man

    his goal scoring is not bad though

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:30, Paul67 said…

    Collie, agree; I look forward to Artur keeping a clean sheet on his next game for Celtic.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:31, pfayr said…

    celtic first

    admonition mate

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:33, EdwardUrsus said…

    MacJay :- Mea culpa EGO terra in faeces per ut unus :-)

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:35, Celtic_First said…

    Pfayr

    Will you accept a plea of temporary insanity?

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:36, antsman said…

    would it not be something if our first clean sheet in over a year was at ibrox...........

    0-0 could not be ruled it it looks very much like a game both sides would be happy not to lose

    tho can we keep out super striker darchville who currently has 3 goals in 5 starts and 6 sub appearances

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:38, macjay said…

    Tontine Tim....Ah wee Bertie.Gallus or what? I heard that he left for Birmingham because he was considered to be a corner boy.Around the same time Vincent Ryan got a game every week because Mrs. Kelly felt he was a nice boy!Apocryphal stories from the `50`s.He also saw off Davy Provan`s leg.Complete accident,of course.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:39, pfayr said…

    celtic first

    after that gash yesterday i`m sure i could swing a plea of diminshed responsibility caused by excessive stress coupled with unbridled euphoria

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:42, Celtic_First said…

    Pfayr

    Brilliant. I think you've just come up with our defence of the incidents surrounding Robert McHendry on Thursday.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:44, macjay said…

    Ed MAXIMA culpa. Et cum spiritu tuo,an` a` that.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:45, greenlion2 said…

    I think Neilly bhoy still has a wee soft spot for us. Rod Stewart and Sue Pollard magic....

    Celtic_First only temporary?????

    PFAYR im a big fan of Jan and I think he does a lot of good things which go unnoticed and will score the 20+ goals for us.

    We cry out for a 20+ goals a season striker and now we have potentially 2 (if Majec gets his head together then 3) on our books. I really like the look of Chris when he was at Hibs and he had a good scoring record there so maybe he is another now he has the monkey off his back.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:49, hoopla said…

    Been away in the middle of nowhere over the weekend, far far from TV and internet.

    Very pleased to see the weekend scores on my return. But not at all surprised, I have to say.

    Hoops perform poorly the Saturday after a huge Euro win? Struggle all game, then score two in the last ten mins? Heard that one before methinks. We have 95 mins of fitness, we have 95 mins of Belief. Mr Strachan take a bow.

    As for the Darnel, no surprises there either - there was money to be made all last season betting against the F.O.D., especially under certain circumstances.

    Consider this - only one team is unbeaten in the SPL this season - and it's not us, and it's not them. We have conceded seven league goals away this season, Rangers have conceded six. But a certain other team has conceded... one.

    Interesting days... as always...

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:55, EdwardUrsus said…

    MacJay :- maxima? I wouldn't go as far as that :-) plain culpa will suffice.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:56, Bloke109 said…

    QPR 1 Norwich 0

    And lo it came to pass that the man who did stand and point did approach the lady who cooks and the lady who cooks did say unto the man who points 'Granty, go forth unto the changing room and remove thy jaicket for it is on the nail that is shoogly. Such shoogliness can shoogle no more. And what is more thou signed Ian Murray. Thou cutteth not the mustard of Colman.'

    And it doth giveth no pleasure to Bloke109 to predicteth such, for Granty hath signed at the Hill of Fir the programme of Bloke109 when he was but a WeeBoay109, or at least a SpottyTeenager109 for he kiddeth no-one.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:58, minceyheidman said…

    Just finished watching the Australian league highlights.
    Vidmar sent off for his second red in three weeks.
    Same old same old.

     
  • At 08/10/07 22:59, greenlion2 said…

    Hoopla I backed them on 3 lines on Saturday at a measley 13/2. I could not see them not winning. I have backed the minis this season against the full fat version only other time I have backed against them was when they played the mothers and it was a debatable penalty that got them back into that game.

    If I can get the bet somewhere im backing them to lose the next 4 in Europe as well.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:00, Collie said…

    Paul

    Hiv ye made up yer mind aboot Mister Killen?

    If ye hivnae....

    Yer ur wise!

    But dat statement disnae apply... frae whit a read... tae maist o' da ither Guys!

    Ah hiv Constantlee Preached dis line o' Reparteee...

    Ye know it weel, my friend...an' whit it....ah know YE DO AGREE!

    " Sava da APPLAUSA... waita til da end!"

    But noo it hiz been slightlee altered, tae fit Mr. Killen's Case...

    "Sava da CRITIQUE... waita til da end!"

    Mr. K soitenly looks...no sae SPECIAL...dat's a fact!

    But, gentlemen please haud yer ponies...
    We hiv onlee seen ....

    HIS VIRGIN, OPENING ACT!

    LAST game wiz jist his FOIST Game... as a STARTER...

    I admit he didna make his case for...
    RECEIVIN' DA OARDER O' DA GARTER!

    However...

    He Scored a Goal!

    It wiz a thing o' Beautee...

    A very welcome Wan, an' awe...

    OAN DAT YE KIN BET YER SWEET PETOOTEE!

    He may,jist may...be da wan we crave!

    So, until he his a few mair games...

    I ask ye MR. Killen Decriers....


    PLEASE BEHAVE!


    collie
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:02, TerryO'Neill said…

    Vargasshampoo you seem to dismiss Jan's injury problems as merely "tales"and you feel he "lacks the grit & application".

    Again this is were we differ,i dont think the Big Guy lacks courage or application,seem to remember Gordon Strachan talking about Jan playing with an nasty ankle injury when he could have quite easily called off.

    I believe he has been unlucky, with genuine injuries the main reason for his waning form.

    Why is it when Aiden makes a mistake its because he has to learn,or he's reverting to type but if someone else does its just a mistake or bad play.

    Aidens pirouttes are some of the finest skill av seen displayed in a Celtic shirt.

    His skill and brains already make a difference.

    As ah said before for some the focus is on what he does wrong,
    he is ma favorite player ah focus on what he does right.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:04, Bloke109 said…

    minceyheidman

    Pure heid full o mince man cos when you mis-read your name it looks like Magnus Hedman, big Magnus man, the mad Hed man.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:10, TommyTwistsTommyTurns said…

    Is this Gregory Campbell thing for real? Even if the invite was made in the knowledge that he would refuse, there are plenty of Hoops in the 6 counties who would feel completely betrayed by any offer of special treatment to this odious character.

    There used to be around 5,000 season tickets holders from Ireland, but due to short-notice changes in the match schedules and various other reasons a lot of these guys have given up their season tickets.
    We've all noticed how many empty seats there have been at the home games during the last two seasons and this has been a contributary factor.

    If the club wants to make a political statement, then send an invite to someone of the stature and integrity of Nelson Mandela.
    Otherwise stick to football.....

    TTTT

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:10, Bloke109 said…

    Terry

    Well said on Aiden. I had a real Damascean moment with him. We were playing Dunfermline a few seasons back and I'd been frustrated with him. He turned inside, looking as, if he was going nowhere, shot, scored, and from memory won the game. The second half against Dundee United he was outstanding, as good a wing performance as I have seen in years. He was unplayable.

    And yesterday, when it looks as if it's not working for him, he shoots and it turns into a pass for the winner. Stretching it to call it an assist, but Aiden never hid. He has that 'character' thing, which many underestimate.

    Bottom line is if you're going to shake the team up and bring in say Jarosik, O'Brien, Sno, you keep Aiden.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:11, pfayr said…

    just watched legend Peter Grant interviewed on sky sports very articulate ....come a long way from mad Peter the pointer

    good luck pal no one has ever tried harder for our team

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:13, Celtic_First said…

    If the guy made a formal complaint to the club, the club has to take it seriously, no matter who he is.

    Offering a visit to Celtic Park is probably a fairly typical response in such situations, I'd have thought.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:14, Bloke109 said…

    Re Gregory Campbell

    Can't get the link right, so please forgive the copy and paste.

    Campbell invited to Celtic after abuse on ferry
    Monday, October 08, 2007

    By Clare Weir

    The East Londonderry MP Gregory Campbell was today considering an offer to visit the home of Glasgow Celtic - after he and his wife suffered sectarian abuse from fans on the Stranraer to Larne ferry.

    The outgoing chairman of Celtic, Brian Quinn, has lashed out at followers who verbally abused Mr Campbell and his wife Frances as they returned from a recent trip to Scotland.

    And the politician, who is a big fan of the other half of the Old Firm, Glasgow Rangers, says he may take up an invitation from Mr Quinn to watch Celtic play at their home ground as his guest.

    In a letter to the DUP man, Mr Quinn also issued a strong warning to supporters from Northern Ireland to behave themselves, while Mr Campbell has thanked him for his prompt reply and stressed that a small minority of fans were behind the sectarian rants directed at him and his wife.

    The MP had already taken steps to avoid the crowds after learning he would be travelling home from Scotland on the same day as football fans attending the Celtic match against Inverness Caledonian Thistle on September 15.

    "I contacted the ferry company to ask where was the best place to sit and which would be the quietest crossing and they were very helpful with that," he said.

    "As a politician I am used to banter and I was expecting a few jibes. The bulk of the fans were quite reasonable and there were a few remarks about the score which were obviously for my benefit, which I have no problem with."

    However, he said a small number of people aimed "sectarian, foul-mouthed and bigoted abuse" at him and his wife, adding that this was "quite disturbing".

    "Living and working where I do, I am used to this, but it was upsetting for my wife," added Mr Campbell.

    "However, I realise that this was the effort of a small number of sectarian bigots and not representative of all supporters."

    The MP wrote to Celtic and received a prompt reply.

    "I appreciate that Mr Quinn was so prompt in his reply and I hope that his successor, the former (Northern Ireland) Secretary of State John Reid, will prove to be as strong when he takes up the post," he told the North West Telegraph today.

    In the letter, Mr Quinn said: "I was very disturbed to hear from you about the abuse to which you have recently been subjected by followers of Celtic - I will not call them supporters because they bring the good name of our club into disrepute.

    "We have made it known on many occasions that we condemn behaviour of this kind.

    "We will continue to face this challenge and I believe Celtic have made real progress over the years in dealing with the issues, though we cannot deal with every one."

    Mr Quinn offered Mr Campbell the chance to watch the team play at home and observe the efforts made to combat sectarianism in the game.

    Mr Campbell said today: "I haven't made a decision on the invitation but it is something that I will be looking at."

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:19, pfayr said…

    it`s one thing to apologise and rebuke those responsible


    why do we have to go as far as to invite this scumbag to our ground

    we are not sectarian , but unlike others we don`t just sing about it

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:21, TerryO'Neill said…

    Bloke 109 you reminded me of one of Aidens attributes thats oft overlooked-COURAGE.

    It takes courage to take a man on.

    It takes courage to take a man on when your in front of the Celtic support.

    It takes courage to take a man on in front of the Celtic support when you've failed in your last attempt and been abused/shouted at/critised for doing so.

    To do that and make yourself a first team regular at Celtic you have to have it and he's got it in spades.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:25, greenlion2 said…

    Ed did the Hibs player get boked for his celebration on Saturday?

    PS Big Weir done his defensive duty well clearing that ball from off the line!!!!

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:26, Kingoh said…

    Don't know enough about Gregory campbell but from what I can see from the posts seems a despicable character who should not be welcomed.

    On a lighter note, thought it was strange to see a pipe band on the park before the game against Milan last week. Didn't seem to be getting the crowd going much. Does this mean we are trying to get rid of 'all that Irish tosh'© Gerry McNee.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:27, possilbhoy said…

    After the Celtic v AC Milan game a Strathclyde Police Superintendant along with a UEFA delegate went in to the Sky S ports van to look at the Dida incident & the officer said that it was only a playful touch on the goalkeeper or words to that effect. This is why he was not charged with assault but only a breach of the peace for entering the field of a sporting arena.

    Hopefully the UEFA delegate tells his pals this too.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:35, Collie said…

    Pfayr

    It may not mean much in da Grand Scheme o' things... ye ken...

    But, A little Dab o' PUBLIC RELATIONS...

    Soitenlee ...DISNAE HOIT...NOO AN' AGAIN!


    Campbell met some Bad Bhoys...when he wiz wit' his Wife...

    Noo, we kin play da GOOD GUY...

    Although ,we know it wull no dae a thing, tae improve his opeenion o' us... IN HIS SIGHT!

    But Noo, we wull come over, tae EVERYBOADY ELSE,

    Like, a Shining Knight!

    So wit's wrang wit' dat?

    Does dat no seem tae be true an' right?

    Mr.Quinn acted very Responsiblee,
    an' With his Action...

    Ah hiv tae AGREE!

    collie
    Tailk's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:38, EdwardUrsus said…

    Kingoh :- Like a lot of folk on here you seem a bit confused over the rules on a booking after a goal celebration. A quick look at the rules clarifies, First the player must leave the field of play, second he must either run towards or gesture towards fans, thirdly he must be a Celtic player. If all three conditions are met it merits a yel;low card. Some of the poorer refs still dish out a yellow card when only two of the rules are broken but in doing so they are ignoring the all important third rule.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:41, Celtic_First said…

    Edward

    Thanks for clarifying that.

    Now, when is it a referee can and cannot award a penalty kick?

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:46, Kingoh said…

    Edward

    It seems it is you who is confused!!

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:50, TontineTim said…

    At 08/10/07 22:38, macjay said…

    Tontine Tim....Ah wee Bertie. Gallus or what? I heard that he left for Birmingham because he was considered to be a corner boy.

    *I don’t doubt but as I said he seemed tae mature dawn sarf. I do know that after he returned the Renton CSC had their annual dance in Balloch and the wee mhan was their player of the year, he didnae show up so one of the members who knew Bertie fae his Dumbarton loan days called him up, he was sitting in the hoose watching the tele, he came right down and entertained the crowd.

    Incidentally the reason the wee mhan didnae show up was that Jock had him on a curfew at the time for some off field activity, he did show up along with Willie O’Neill a few months later and was the real star we know, what a voice he had.

    Around the same time Vincent Ryan got a game every week because Mrs. Kelly felt he was a nice boy! Apocryphal stories from the `50`s.

    *Wisnae even a fitba player, he actually played the Gaelic game. This would be around the same time a Celtic scout allegedly was sent tae watch Joe and Gerry Baker and came back with Jim Conway.

    He also saw off Davy Provan`s leg. Complete accident, of course.

    *I was at that game, if Bertie hudnae have pulled his leg back his would have been broken. I once spoke tae him about that and he genuinely liked big Provan and gave him a job at Firhill when he was the manager there, said he did a lot of work for kids with special needs.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:51, greenlion2 said…

    PFAYR interesting stat on Jan scored 5 assists 4 so joint top scorer and assister.

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:54, Collie said…

    Ed

    Ah hate tae admit it...
    But ye ur fast becomin' a Man for awe o' da People.

    One who is fair and admired, a Solomon tae awe...a Golden roof-ed, Shinin' Steeple!

    Ur ye really Ed da Bear?.....or ur yer really, Mr. HYDE?

    Na... ye must be Doactur J... da ither ....ah canny bide!

    But here...wait a minute!

    Ye surely couldnae be .... OOR DOACTUR J.?

    Ah guess anythin' is poassible...
    But ye simply canny be?

    But ah widna pit it past ye....

    It wid soitenly explain... dat wee Green Glint in Yer EE!

    collie
    Tail's Awaggin' Awaggin'

     
  • At 08/10/07 23:59, setting free the bears said…

    VargasShampoo

    Could we stop calling Chris Killen an Aussie rules player. He is a Kiwi and would see it as a matter of respect to be differentiated from the oz nation. If you're referring to his robust playing style, then calling him an All Black or rugby player would be less disrespectful.

    When WGS entered the season we had 5 main forwards: JVOH, Skippy, Magic, Deeks and Chris Killen. I'd guess his thinking was JVOH was the main guy and the others would fight it out to partner him. I think he'd believe that Magic was the most likely to win that battle feeling that last year was a blip in a career of constant scoring. Deeks was the next most talented but had to sort out some issues, not least whether he could perform in a front two. Skippy would have been seen as a bright prospect and Chris as a cheap SPL level scorer.

    As the season has unfolded, JVOH and Skippy have both scored well in the SPL and Skippy has outperformed the main man in the CL. Deeks and Magic have continued to go downhill at different rates. Therefore Chris has risen to 3rd choice mostly through their poor form. He will have to grab his chance when it's there or the young guns, McGowan, O'Brien and Sheridan (when fit) could leapfrog him to that 3rd spot.

    I still hope that Deeks turns thing round and that magic can reappear but, if it is not to be, then CK and the young ones will have to be utilised when injury and suspension dictate, (well, at least until January).

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:05, EdwardUrsus said…

    CelticFirst :- When an offence that would otherwise be awarded a direct free kick takes place in the 18 yard box and the resultant penalty would be to the advantage of Rangers then it shall be given. I'm surprised that on an otherwise knowledgeble blog so few people have read the secret pages at the back. Call yourself football fans? tut tut.

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:10, EdwardUrsus said…

    Collie :- Believe me, the only green glint in my eye was last year envying you lifting trophys, this year is different and it's blue eyes to match the blue nose.

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:12, Bloke109 said…

    Edward

    Just avoid the blue tongue.

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:12, Collie said…

    Settin Free the Bears.

    It looks like yer hiv cast yer version, o' da Killen die!

    Ye hiv woiked oot o da quirks.... it wis easy as Pie!

    Ye've figgered dat Mr.Killen is no da a main ingredient ta da Celtic Cake!

    But ma OPEENION, is still OPEN...ah'll wait till da Cake is Ready an' FULLY BAKED!

    As Ah hiv remarked... we jist dinna hiv a enough intel,
    Tae mak a soond decision, if Mr. Killen is a Winner or LOSER...

    IT'S FAUR TAE SOON TAE TELL!

    Gie him a few mair Rounds.... afore intae da Earth ...
    His DREAMS.... YE POUND!

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:14, Tobi said…

    I hope UEFA make a decision as quickly as possible.

    There's just something inside me saying that if Shaktar were to do the double over Milan..............I'll leave it there.

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:22, PJBhoynyc said…

    Aw C'Mon Collie....
    Surely a Dug with your Pedigree
    Knows Ed the Ted
    Is no who you think he could be.....
    Why? Cause.....
    He has Far Too much...
    Diplomaceeeeeeeeeeee!

    Bhoys are not playing for a while....
    When is the AGM again?
    Any chance of a civilized discussion on one thing at least....to begin with...

    You see...I think DD is a Wise Man of the World.
    He makes his bawbees Anticipating Future Events.
    I cannot imagine he did not Anticipate
    A Litlle Unrest...
    At His Bequest.

    The Question is .....If he had a choice...
    Why.........Blow the Ship towards Stormy Weather?


    Celtic AGM 2007.....perhaps....?

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:23, druiddude said…

    Sean South
    Thank you for the post on the invitation to Gregory Campbell.

    I know it may seem a small quibble but Dr Paisley is no longer Moderator of the Free Presbyterian Church.He was recently forced to step down due to opposition within the Church to his sharing of power with the political face of the Antichrist(Sinn Fein)

    I am amazed at how little publicity this matter has received as it is the first time that Dr Paisley has been outflanked in the Unionist extremist stakes

    Hopefully his opponents will not be able to organise around a standard bearer capable of jeopardising the power sharing executive.

    In view of the above I think Mr Campbell`s mind will exercised in how to refuse the invitation while blaming the Celtic support rather than the hostility he might expect from the congregation of the Free Presbyterian Church.

    To help him make his mind up I think the invite should be extended for a game to be played on Sunday.

    They that sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind CSC

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:26, Collie said…

    Ed

    Yer sense of Humor is Fine an' Dandy,
    Yer prose is faultless.... it's pure Eye Candy!

    Ye hiv awe da wonderful attributes o' a man o' elegant appearance,

    But Dat Blue Hue, emanatin' from yer NOSE...!

    It spiles yer Visage..It's jist no seemly,
    Goodness Knows!

    Why dinnae ye get a Complete Goin' OVER....?
    An' chinge yer Nose, tae da Color o' CLOVER?

    Noo den ye'll really be Wit' Gas yer COOKIN'

    And awe Da GOILS..... wull shout..

    "Hey, Hey, GOOD LOOKIN!"

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:27, minceyheidman said…

    I see on sky the plastic pitch in Russia is being questioned prior to England's game.
    Possible injuries to players etc..
    Same for both sides right?
    Mon the Ruskies.

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:33, setting free the bears said…

    Collie

    I'll pound no celtic player's dreams.

    You have been guilty of far more severe criticism of our players than anything I said about Mr. Killen. I have an open mind toward his future.

    He scored regularly for Hibs without looking any great shakes as a player. If he can do the same for Celtic, he'll continue to have more than my my backing.

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:37, macjay said…

    Tontine re Davie Provan.Sounds as if he deserves rehabilitation.For me,there were some Rangers players I could tolerate and some I couldn`t.He was in the latter camp.You`ll remember the Kai Johansen game at Ibrox around the same time.After the goal celebrations at the Rangers end Provan returned to his left back berth at the Celtic end and entertained us to the two handed vicky.

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:38, minceyheidman said…

    Killen should get at least 3 or 4 starts with Skippy to give him a chance.
    Also give Jan a chance to see that he is not automatic first choice.
    Scott Brown seemed to be looking for Killen with every ball when he came on in the Dundee Utd game.
    If it starts affecting Brown's game then a decision has to be made.

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:38, EdwardUrsus said…

    Bloke109 :- :-)

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:39, Collie said…

    Patrick John...

    Ah still hiv da feelin' dat ah've goat at LEAST WAN RIGHT!

    If ah'm way aff base.... den please dinna start a Fight!

    By da way ,did we hiv a Doactur J...?

    Ah'm no too sure o' dat... fur ah' hiv bin away!

    But da Rhyme wiz right.... so dat's okay...

    Fur remember, dat Ah woik under Poetical License~ at all times,
    So, ANYTHING GOES!

    As long as it RHYMES!

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

    P.S.

    Pedigree?
    Guid wan,pal...
    da best ah could up wit

    wiz..." DA FAMILEE TREE!"

    Trees, as ye know,pard...
    Ur very dear tae me!

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:42, setting free the bears said…

    druiddude

    I see Mr. Fanning in the Sunday independent has been spouting bile about Celtic again. I think Pl wrote to him last time about the difference between free speech and slander. He appears to have learned nothing.

    Should we adopt the same approach WGS took towards Tommy G, or should DD protect his investment and have a word with the owner about advertising money?

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:51, TontineTim said…

    At 09/10/07 00:37, macjay said…

    Tontine re Davie Provan. Sounds as if he deserves rehabilitation. For me, there were some Rangers players I could tolerate and some I couldn`t. He was in the latter camp. You`ll remember the Kai Johansen game at Ibrox around the same time. After the goal celebrations at the Rangers end Provan returned to his left back berth at the Celtic end and entertained us to the two handed vicky.

    *Was that not the cup final at Hampden, must admit I didnae like any of them, still don’t actually, when they don the black mass vestments they’re all evil tae me.

    However, in all fairness I do recall about 14 months later in the last minute of a winner take all League Cup sectional game after the Buzz Bomb slotted in the 3rd in which the same big Kai had missed a penalty when they were one up a numptie came flying out of the hun end, grabbed a corner flag and made a bee line for the celebrating Lemon, that it was big Provan who body checked him ontae the touch line saving Bobby fae being decapitated.

     
  • At 09/10/07 00:51, Collie said…

    Setting Free da Bears...



    Ah canny deny dat, ma friend...
    Ah dae ma Share o' tryin' tae mak a Player's Celtic Career... End!

    Ah reserve dat right.....when Ah KNOW am RIGHT!

    So, whit's wrang wi' dat?

    If a think a Player's Worthless... Ah' tak him tae da mat!

    But, in ye last epistle....did ah detect a chinge in yer attitude, Towards OOR NEW, NEW ZEALAND,DUDE?

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

    By da way...do not reply..
    Ah ahm goin' oot...
    Ah'm A HUNGRY...datsa Why!

    See you later, palomine....

     
  • At 09/10/07 01:08, twelfthman said…

    PJBhoyce. im in NYC a week before san siro. I'll be in the bronx for a few days if yer up for a pint...?

     
  • At 09/10/07 01:09, druiddude said…

    SFTB
    I think it is a badge of honour to be among those traduced by that rag.

    However if we thinking of bringing pressure to bear we may have some clout in the person of Denis O`Brien.

    He was most unhappy with the coverage he received in his dealings with the Moriarty Tribunalby by the print media.I believe Shane Ross in the Sunday Independent was particularly enthusiastic in attacking Mr O`Brien.The reason for the hostility ,I undersatnd is that Mr O`Brien controls 46.4% of the total radio market while Mr O¬Reilly controls most of the print market.

    Mr O`Brien has now aquired 8.5% of Independent News and Media stock and according to Chekov Feeney in the Vincent Browne`s Village magazine he has put manners on Mr Fanning and his whelps.

     
  • At 09/10/07 01:10, 'GG said…

    Captain Fantastic

    As anyone who lives on the eastern seaboard knows, the NY area CSCs ran a charitable dinner Saturday night and were honoured by the presence of Lisbon Lions, Billy McNeil, Tommy Gemmell and Bertie Auld along with John Dixie Deans (124 goals in 175 appearances).

    On a hot sultry night the 4 Legends were exemplary ambassadors for our great club. There were over 400 people present and these guys were patient and indefatigible in posing for pictures, signing autographs and chatting with fans. And it wasn't just with the good looking women in evening wear. They had time for old baldy fat guys as well.

    Billy McNeil in particular is a real gentleman who conducts himself with the same character and dignity he displayed as a player and manager.
    I witnessed him making a cell phone to a fan's father who is ill and at home.
    What a Captain.

    How lucky we are that these guys who earned glory on the field are still Celtic fans at heart and worthy ambassadors for all that Celtic represent.

    Thank you Bhoys. You brightened our youth and you are still bringing joy to Celts all over the world.

    'GG

     
  • At 09/10/07 01:13, PJBhoynyc said…

    twelthman....

    I will be delighted to buy you a pint or two...
    As long as it is not all of you...

    Drop me an email with details....

    PJB

     
  • At 09/10/07 01:13, setting free the bears said…

    druiddude

    Good to hear that.

    The Teddy Roosevelt approach to diplomacy with the added ingredient of a hefty swing to assist the effectiveness of the big stick.

    Off to sleep happier for hearing that.

     
  • At 09/10/07 01:26, twelfthman said…

    PJ. I'll be in the woodlawn/McClean area but can easily meet you for a pint in town. Annie Moores maybe?

     
  • At 09/10/07 01:37, PJBhoynyc said…

    twelthman...Ah the 4 train to Woodlawn...My daily commute from the vicinity of Annie Moore's...

    Sounds good.

     
  • At 09/10/07 01:51, pablophanque said…

    Ahh the nightshift......don't ya just love it ???

    Wee choon anyone ?

    Hallelujah

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 02:00, Kano said…

    Sean South,

    maybe if we had invited him on to the board,and not just to see a game,everything would have been hunky dory.

    I mean as long as you incite bigotry and racism against people from the Middle East,and leave them with no legal rights,and not Catholics,that's okay then.

    Or is it?

    And you and pfayr should be careful what you call Gregory Campbell.

    As the leagal people might give Paul a hard time.

    Or does that only happen when the bigots abd racists are appointees of Celtic.

     
  • At 09/10/07 02:01, pablophanque said…

    Another Suitcase In Another Hall

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 02:07, pablophanque said…

    One of the finest things she has ever done imho.

    The Gift

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 02:19, twelfthman said…

    Cheers PJ, I'll be in touch

     
  • At 09/10/07 02:19, pablophanque said…

    Who Knows Where The Time Goes

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 02:27, pablophanque said…

    Kinda creepy !!! But funny.......

    Babysoft Skin

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 02:28, Sean South said…

    Kano. sorry don't really get your drift. Can you please kindly spell it out for me?

    Are you saying Campbell and his DUP and FP cronies such as Paisley and Robinson can say what they like about Catholics or the The Pope either as party spokesmen, in the EU parliament (before being chucked out) or in their "church" and we can't refute it?

    I have the full speeches of Campbell.He, Paisley, Robinson,the DUP and the Free Prebs are on the record big time with their CONSTANT criticism of Catholics and Catholicism.

    I heed your advice about being careful about what we say.

    But it is a matter of public record about their stance on the RC religion.

    I am scared of neither Campbell or the Celtic board.This man is not welcome at Celtic Park.End of story.

     
  • At 09/10/07 02:33, twelfthman said…

    PJ, Pablo, Bhoys.... www.langerland.com

     
  • At 09/10/07 02:56, pablophanque said…

    Evergreen

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 03:02, PJBhoynyc said…

    Kano... Regarding The Chair...

    I feel your pain...From the other side of the world. Or should that be Angst?

    Maybe the best way to rationally discuss this subject in the run up to the AGM is to exchange views in a rational manner and ignore the name-calling, sarcasm etc. If any blog can discuss it rationally it should be Paul67's.

    Whilst I have profound concerns that some might simplistically label 'political', it is far more than that from me.... So for the moment I will take it from the Top...

    DD (and the Board) knew this would cause a degree of angst to a significant proprtion of Supporters.....and Employees.....
    Did DD (or the board) know that to be false?
    Does DD (or the board) care about such Angst?


    Interesting questions.

    If there is a dual role for Dr. J....
    Via DD's Daon expanding into the US of Homeland security and its worldwide market.....
    Combined with Chairman of Celtic...

    Putting 'party politics' aside for a moment...

    That Duplicity would be too much for me.

    It would also clarify how much DD cares about Celtic and its good name....Compared to the name of Daon.

    So a Starter for ten...

    Was a stushie not expected?

     
  • At 09/10/07 03:03, pablophanque said…

    Lovin' You

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 03:06, Kano said…

    Sean South,am in total agreement,he should not be allowed anywhere near celtic Park.

    Just see no difference between most of them and our "esteemed" chairman to be.

    Was just pointing out,rather badly,it seems,that while everyone will agree that bigots and racists like that numpty are not welcome at Celtic Park.

    It would seem the same "hospitality" is not accorded to John Reid.

    Who is far as I can see is guilty of all the same stuff as Gregory Campbell,and much worse.

    Just that John Reid's crimes are against Middle Eastern peoples.

    As for the legal angle,I was being facetious,as it is unlikely anybody would complain about what you and pfayr were saying about Campbell.

    John Reid,on the other hand.....

     
  • At 09/10/07 03:08, Shelbourne1916 said…

    Do we know yet what time we will know the result of the uefa enquiries on thursday?

     
  • At 09/10/07 03:15, PJBhoynyc said…

    Pablo...Nice tunes but remeber that your audience is no at the same timexone as you....
    Get With The Beat!

    ...Or Reality

    :0)

    Saw both of them live this year btw.... SUPERB!

     
  • At 09/10/07 03:22, pablophanque said…

    Y.N.W.A.

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 03:36, pablophanque said…

    pj, I don't see how these are time-zone specific tbh....... Just my appreciation of great female voices. Quite liked your first one, although I've never heard of him and can't stand the second one !

    Get Here

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 03:51, pablophanque said…

    Diamonds & Rust

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 04:24, Kano said…

    PJ,

    a stushie was to be expected,you are right,but it is not the stushie you and I would expect.

    Where there is point and counterpoint,and people actually learn things.

    What we are seeing and all we will see,is silence about certain "experience" of the man,and a talking up of his other"experience".

    This will be done for the "greater good",as his laws circumventing due process,his "security" measures,and his institutional racism are apparently supposed to be.

    In response to bringing up the rather unsavioury aspects to this creature,what we will get is,be careful,the lawyers will get you,or what does this have to do with his abilities as Celtic Chairman.

    In my eyes it has far more to with his position as Celtic chairman,than what attributes he may bring to chairing board meetings or a"can-do attitude"(whatever the hell that means),which he apparently has in abundance.

    Maybe the overwhelming silence by most,is what Dermot is hoping for.

    If so,he will get his wish,when the likes of yourself are made to feel that you are attacking the club in some way,or creating divisions,or bringing down the level of CQN,by merely pointing out the blindingly obvious.

    That this cretin should not be allowed within ten miles of an official appointment at Celtic Park.

    You stating this,will not damage the club or John Reid's reputation.

    It will help the club's reputation,and John Reid has done far more damage to his own reputation than I could ever possibly manage.

    You never know,it may well just help our club not become,just what Neil Lennon was saying it isn't quite yet,on my link at 13.09. yesterday.

    Don't know about you,but what Neil Lennon said about Celtic,still,perhaps stupidly, rings true with me,that is why I support them,follow them,and spend time writing and talking about them.

    And this John Reid,much like Gregory Campbell,has no place in that.

    He is more than welcome to come to the stadium,as a private person,as is anybody.

    But he should not be representing Celtic in ANY capacity.

     
  • At 09/10/07 04:30, pablophanque said…

    California

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 04:35, KingofCows said…

    hail hail. I used to post on a here a bit before the blogger change as King of Cows. Quick question- anyone know of a good CSC located in Reykjavik, Iceland? I'll be there (visiting from Washington DC) for the R*ngers match on the 20th and would love to find a club to watch with. Not having a lot of luck finding one online- any help is appreciated! Thanks

     
  • At 09/10/07 04:39, pablophanque said…

    The Man.....

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 04:43, 'GG said…

    Despite a couple of solo home runs late in the game, the lights go out in the Bronx, as the Cleveland Indians beat the Yankees to win the series by 3 games to 1.

    The Indians now advance to play Boston Red Sox for the American League Championship beginning Friday.

    'GG

     
  • At 09/10/07 04:49, 'GG said…

    King of Cows

    Found these on Celticbars.com :

    ICELAND - MJALLARGATA 1, 400 SAFJORDUR (Tel: 354 456 3648) (Grunu Raketturnar Iceland CSC)

    ICELAND - THE DUBLINER, HAFNARSTRAETI 4, 101 REYKJAVIK

    ICELAND - THE CELTIC CROSS, HVERFISGATA 26, 101 REYKJAVIK

    'GG getting back to the blog after the baseball.

     
  • At 09/10/07 04:58, 'GG said…

    Hi Pablo

    How about this from Eddi Reader

    Ae Fond Kiss

    'GG

     
  • At 09/10/07 05:02, pablophanque said…

    Pearl's A Singer

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 05:09, 'GG said…

    You're an 80s man so this should bring back memories?

    Mary McGregor

    'GG Trying to find obscure female hits

     
  • At 09/10/07 05:11, pablophanque said…

    'GG, belter mate. Nice find. Trying to think of other great Scots female voices, but the brains weary.

    We're All Alone

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 05:12, pablophanque said…

    .....and I'm a 70's mhan ma mhan.... :o)))

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 05:15, 'GG said…

    I prefer Elkie's tribute to the Buckfast

    Lilac Wine

    'GG headed for noddyland

     
  • At 09/10/07 05:21, 'GG said…

    Can we claim Kirsty McColl?
    Her grandparents were Scots.

    FairyTale of New York

    'GG

     
  • At 09/10/07 05:25, 'GG said…

    This is one I'd never heard of.

    Don't come the Cowboy with me Sunny Jim

    Right I've my jacket in my hand.

    'GG with catholic tastes in music

     
  • At 09/10/07 05:25, pablophanque said…

    Crazy On You

    pablophanque

     
  • At 09/10/07 07:19, steelica said…

    Paul67

    Regarding Scott McDonald I can hardly disagree, given that I was very supportive of his signing and confidently predicted when the mineshafters had the vacancy signs out after the 0-0 with Kilmarnock that "a small marsupial would have us all lovin' it". Glad my confidence was not misplaced.

    He does have a knack of scoring these last minute goals does he not? I wonder what odds I would get on him grabbing another on October 20th?

    Have to say though that your near obsession with wanting St. Mirren to be relegated is unbecoming. St. Mirren despite last year's abbaration are a fine club with a fine tradition. The current custodians may not be to my liking (although by all accounts the two managers are on very good terms)but their place in the SPL is of far greater merit than Gretna's.

    Gretna belong where they started in English non-league football.

     
  • At 09/10/07 07:28, winningemmell said…

    October 9

    St Denis & Companions

    Pro - Tully57
    Con - Me (Tully57's companion)
    Pro - Bergkamp
    Con - Les

     
  • At 09/10/07 07:29, steelica said…

    That really should have been "no vacancies signs"!

     
  • At 09/10/07 07:29, winningemmell said…

    Pro - Priestley

     
  • At 09/10/07 07:57, Boltonbhoy said…

    Pro - Connaghan

     
  • At 09/10/07 08:38, winningemmell said…

    Pro - Compton (AFC)
    Pro - Fire Engines

     
  • At 09/10/07 08:43, winningemmell said…

    Pro/Con - Law

     
  • At 09/10/07 08:48, Boltonbhoy said…

    Pro - The Menace!

     
  • At 09/10/07 08:48, winningemmell said…

    Pro - Flesh Number One (Beatle _) - Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians

     
  • At 09/10/07 08:48, winningemmell said…

    Con - Thatcher

     
  • At 09/10/07 08:49, Boltonbhoy said…

    WG - you beat me to that con by seconds!!

     
  • At 09/10/07 08:59, Boltonbhoy said…

    Pro - Skinner

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:14, Paul67 said…

    Steelica, indeed you have been proven to be right on Scott McDonald.

    Obsession with St Mirren? I have not mentioned them in months before this article, which in itself was of an inconsequential nature. Now that you have mentioned them, I hope they are relegated. Twice. Happy to prove you right again.

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:21, spirit of arthur lee said…

    Con Dennis Paul
    Lab Denis Macshane
    LIb Denis Coderre

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:25, Bhoy_Molloy said…

    At 08/10/07 14:24, miketw10 said…

    At 08/10/07 10:51, Bhoy_Molloy said…

    I am on all for admin deleting ANY post that is personal as it has no place on here.

    Does that include unwarranted personal attacks on Celtic players too?
    __________
    If saying Caldwell is crap at right back then I'm GUILTY.

    Being critical of someones work in not personal. Do you understand the difference?

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:32, Ulysses McGhee said…

    Pro - McGhee (my papa)

    Con - Pennis

    Con - Norden

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:42, malone19 said…

    I don't agree with your assertion that Jarosik's influence changed the flow of the game.

    I think it was blatantly obvious that the players found it hard to get going after the huge drop in quality of opposition (with no disrespect to Gretna), I always thought we were more than capable of scoring almost at will but simply didn't look interested!

    Then, with about 10 minutes to go things changed, not in my opinion due to any substitution but because we got angry! Scott McDonald was hacked down in what should have been the most obvious red-card decision of the referees life. I believe this was the turning point, it injected some adrenaline, some fire into the bellies of the players, we had some purpose.





    Without wanting to sound blasphemous I see a lot of Larsson in McDonald's style of play.

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:43, thebhoydaveTOKYO said…

    pro - Pennis

    UG you probably think Harry Hill is funny

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:44, thebhoydaveTOKYO said…

    that should've read
    UMcG

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:48, richard81 said…

    pro- Van Outen....Oops.

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:52, winningemmell said…

    relegation wishlist izzit ?


    SPL - Mothers (unlikely :-()
    EPL - Totters (quite possible :-))
    B - Stuttgart (freefalling fools)
    LC - Lyon (!!!!!!)


    Con - Watts
    Pro - _ - Blondie

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:53, winningemmell said…

    Pro - Taylor


    ^O-O^

     
  • At 09/10/07 09:59, EdwardUrsus said…

    Richard81 ;- lol, that's the best pro today :-)

     
  • At 09/10/07 10:03, Big Wavy said…

    Morning fhellas,

    From last night I seen a few posters get animiate by the following...

    SS : As someone inherently opposed to sectarianism and bigotry in all its forms I was surprised to see that Brian Quinn has invited DUP politician Gregory Campbell to attend a game at Parkhead after he was allegedly taunted by some Celtic fans on a ferry from Scotland to Northern Ireland in September.

    Sean, I understand that the chairman wanted Campbell to see the work we were doing to eradicate sectarianism, not necessarily to banquet the man. I'm pleased that after some of our less enlightened fans heading back to Ireland allowed us to lose the moral high ground on the issue, the chairman responded personally. Thought it absolutely the right thing to do. Would be amazed if Campbell took up the offer given his own unsavoury background. Nothing to see here. Bit of necessary PR in the face of a 'bad news story'.

    SS : Brian Quinn may be attempting to be a diplomat but I don't think many Celtic fans will feel like making Campbell welcome.

    Hopefully Celtic fans will see it for the necessary burden it is given the circumstance. Any protest against his presence by the self-proclaimed outraged catholic reactionaries would give the enemies of our club more ammo for the old mantra that "the old firm, they are just as bad as each other". If Paisley can share power with McGuiness and Lenny can be buddies with Ferguson then I'm sure we as a support can universally capture the mood ?

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 09/10/07 10:12, Sean South said…

    Thanks Kano at 3.06. I full get your drift now on the odious Gregory Campbell.

    I agree 100 per cent with you that John Reid should not be the chairman of Celtic. Fine if he wants to come as a season book holder (does he buy one or is he another freeloader ?)

    His part in the Iraq war makes him an unfit person to be the figurehead of a noble institution such as Celtic.

    But somehow I see no mass protest against him.

    And if Campbell is welcomed as an official guest of Celtic he will not be welcome. There may well be protest however if darkens the doors of Parkhead.

     
  • At 09/10/07 10:26, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Depicted carrying his severed head in his hands,and invoked against strife,headaches,rabies and possessed people-patron saint of CQN?
    Pro-Armand and Michaela

    Con-Anyone for

    Pro- K Lillee

     
  • At 09/10/07 10:28, EdwardUrsus said…

    Pro McQuade (1971)

     
  • At 09/10/07 10:47, winningemmell said…

    Ed -


    you cunning old fox you




    WG

     
  • At 09/10/07 10:55, EdwardUrsus said…

    WG :- I remember that game as my mate who lived up the close (Alex Thompson if you look in) came home in tears from it. You have to remember back then being a Rangers fan you didn't have much to cheer and having win nothing could only take pleasure from Celtic defeats.

     
  • At 09/10/07 10:55, winningemmell said…

    Pro - Canavan (ex-Drygrange)

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:03, Celtic_First said…

    John Wheatley wrote about Denis McQuade in his autobiography.

    He recalled attending a game at Firhill on a hideously wet day. The rain had washed the lines on the pitch away and they put sawdust down in place of the paint or chalk.

    A guy in the enclosure, clearly a Maryhill Mineshafter, hurled non-stop abuse at Denis all afternoon, waiting barely five minutes into the second half before screaming for him to be substituted. Lord Wheatley conceded that McQuade was, indeed, having a nightmare of a game.

    Determined to play his way back into it, he chased an opponent towards the touchline and launched into a long sliding tackle in a desperate attempt to regain possession.

    He mistimed it and went careering through the mud and over the touchline. When he stood up, his shaggy 70s perm was full of sawdust, which Denis proceeded to shake out.

    The wag in the crowd shouted: "Ye huv to take him aff noo. He's split his heid open."

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:05, Big Wavy said…

    SS : And if Campbell is welcomed as an official guest of Celtic he will not be welcome. There may well be protest however if darkens the doors of Parkhead.

    Big Wavy : Campbell has been invited as we were on the back foot in terms of our public position on sectarianism. If he comes he will be an official guest and we will be using the opportunity to show him clearly the massive strides we have made in eradicating sectarianism. An anti-Gregory Campbell protest (viewed clearly as anti-protestant, DUP, Free Pee, unionist, etc by our enemies) will advance the club in what particular way Sean ?

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:07, winningemmell said…

    Pro - _ & The Experts (Robyn's first band)

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:24, mr angry said…

    Good grief!

    Christians in fighting as per usual

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:27, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Here's yer man:

    http://www.dup-londonderry.co.uk/campbell.html

    I shall now have to read up on Donegal Celtic to cleanse the soul.

    Any excellentCQNers had experience of trying to get prizes etc from Celtic for raffles etc?There is fundraising going on for a genuine good cause[the cancer unit in Dumfries]and the response so far has been disappointing.
    Any suggestions as to the best contact?

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:48, Len Brennan said…

    I see the sheep worriers have been given a tough task in the UEFA cup.

    Group B
    Panathinaikos
    Lokomotiv Moscow
    Atletico Madrid
    Copenhagen
    ABERDEEN

    And Henke will have a tough coupler of mathes in his group.

    Group H
    Bordeaux
    Austria Vienna
    Galatasaray
    Panionios
    Helsingsborgs

    Here's hoping the KoK can get that ellusive winners medal that he should rightly have already.

    /Bishop B

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:49, Len Brennan said…

    Full draw here btw - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7034147.stm

    /Bishop B

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:49, TommyTwistsTommyTurns said…

    Con - Nielsen!

    TTTT

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:55, steelica said…

    Paul67

    Just because you haven't mentioned them doesn't mean it isn't there.

    Did any of St. Mirren's players assault a Celtic player in the way the Gretna player did on Sunday? I think not!

    Gretna...relegate them thrice! In fact, send them back to non-league English football.;-)

     
  • At 09/10/07 11:58, Sean South said…

    Big Wavy:Once again you misrepresent what I have posted.

    I said: "And if Campbell is welcomed as an official guest of Celtic he will not be welcome. There may well be protest...."

    I have not advocated a protest- even though I would support one if it was called for.

    I am merely stating how I think Celtic fans would respond to his presence from several conversations I have had with long-time supporters over the last 24 hours and from posts on this blog and others.

    The tone of your question seems to indicate that Celtic fans should not protest- instead being urged to think how it might affect the club or the board that invited this odious man.

    You say: "An anti-Gregory Campbell protest (viewed clearly as anti-protestant, DUP, Free Pee, unionist, etc by our enemies) will advance the club in what particular way Sean?"

    The vast majority of Celtic fans are not anti-Protestant and you know that fine well. Our enemies can say what they like, they always have.

    Defending our religion, our Pope and our religious rights against anti-Catholic organisations such as the Orange Order and the DUP is allowed in a democratic society.

    I think it would be ludicrous from a PR perspective if Gregory Campbell put Celtic on the back foot by being lorded around Parkhead to see what WE are doing about bigotry and sectarianism.

    This man belongs to some of the most bigoted organisations on the planet and we have to prove to him that we are fighting sectarianism? Get real.

    First and foremost Gregory Campbell and his Free Presbyeterian followers have branded Catholics, followers of the anti-Christ.

    You (and our board) really should read some of the filth they have spewed out against the RC religion and the Pope.

    So if Celtic fans want to show their displeasure at a reviled politician- just as we did so magnificently with the red card protest against Thatcher- am I right in thinking you would disapprove of the Celtic fans actions?

    Or perhaps you would have told that brave black women who sat in the whites-only section of a bus in the deep south of the USA all those years ago that she should know her place and not give the enemies of the negro a stick which to beat them?

    Or maybe the Iraqis should not have the gall to tell incoming Celtic chairman John Reid that they disagree with an illegal war and want THEIR country back?

    Brian Quinn has got this one badly wrong. Just as he and his board colleagues did with the appointment of John Reid.

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:05, leinad_12345 said…

    Brown and McDonald are carrying this Celtic team. Injury to either and we will be in big trouble!

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:08, thebhoydaveTOKYO said…

    PRO - Wilson
    creative CON - Cathy
    visual PRO - Cathy

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:09, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Pro/con Waterman

    Pro/con -Roussos

    Pro-Dionysius,god of Wine

    pro-Dionysius the Aeropagite

    con-Pseudo-Dionysius the Aeropagite[splitter]

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:12, Sean South said…

    I have heard it all now. On the Press Association wire a story now running claiming AC Milan carried Dida off on a stretcher because he had a headache!

    The only headache Dida had came from picking Scott McDonald's winner out of the net after he had spilled Gary Caldwell's shot. Total clown.

    MILAN EXPECTING "LIGHT" PUNISHMENT FOR DIDA

    AC Milan's lawyer Leandro Cantamessa believes goalkeeper Dida could receive a "light punishment" from UEFA for his reaction to being struck by a Celtic fan at Parkhead last week.

    UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body will review the actions of both Dida and Milan at a hearing on Thursday and although Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani anticipates the club will avoid sanction by European football's governing body, Cantamessa fears Dida may incur a personal punishment for his antics.

    Cantamessa said: "I believe this inquiry is a formality and I don't expect a punishment for Milan, perhaps a light punishment for Dida.

    "You must not forget the emotional situation for the player as he had just conceded a goal and he saw an unknown person come towards him.

    "Let's not forget what happened to Dida in the Milan derby when he was hit by a firework."

    The incident came in the aftermath of Scott McDonald's last-minute winner for the Scottish side in the Champions League clash in Glasgow last Wednesday.

    The fan, 27-year-old Robert McHendry, made contact with Dida, who briefly gave chase before theatrically collapsing to the ground.

    After treatment, the Brazilian was carried off on a stretcher with an ice pack on his face.

    Cantamessa also defended the actions of Milan's medical staff, who opted to use a stretcher to remove the goalkeeper from the field.

    "The player had a headache," Cantamessa continued.

    "What could the doctor have done if he didn't see what actually happened? Any doctor would have asked for the player to be stretchered off.

    "At that time with those symptoms you don't know what could have happened to Dida."

    Meanwhile, Galliani has reiterated his desire for Dida to remain at the club as their first-choice custodian, saying: "Nelson Dida will remain the AC Milan goalkeeper."

    Juventus and Italy goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon has also waded into the controversy, pleading that Dida should not be heavily punished for his antics.

    "Perhaps he was confused and he did something which one minute later he regretted - do not crucify him for it," he said.

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:12, winningemmell said…

    Pro - ____(l)_(on) (AFC)

    Pro/Con - Healey ~ ~

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:14, winningemmell said…

    Sean South -


    I wondered why MrsWG kept a stretcher in our bedroom !!!



    WeddedGemmell

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:15, winningemmell said…

    ......on reflection, maybe for two reasons....



    WillieGarner

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:17, TighnabruaichCeltic said…

    seansouth

    A very good post!!!

    We should never let this hideous little man darken our door. We do not need people of his ilk darkening our door.

    We certainly do not need to prove anything to a man who is clearly as bad and probably worse than those who allegedly abused him.

    While we have come a long way on this issue everything he stands for is disgusting and I for one feel we certainly should not stick our heads in the sand and say nothing while this reptile lords it around Celtic park.

    TNBC

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:18, miketw10 said…

    Bhoy Molloy @ 09:25

    Oh, I know the difference alright!

    Saying someone is crap when they're obviously NOT is a personal attack IMHO. And I'm not just talking about Caldwell at right-back!

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:18, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Con-Dennis Nielsen Dida

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:31, Big Wavy said…

    Hi Sean..

    Big Wavy:Once again you misrepresent what I have posted.

    Big Wavy : Sean. I read it as I see it. I have no intention of misrepresenting you now, in the past nor in the future.

    I said: "And if Campbell is welcomed as an official guest of Celtic he will not be welcome. There may well be protest...."

    I have not advocated a protest- even though I would support one if it was called for.

    Big Wavy : Slightly pedantic sir but we finally get there. As a supporter of said protest how would it benefit the club ?

    The tone of your question seems to indicate that Celtic fans should not protest- instead being urged to think how it might affect the club or the board that invited this odious man.

    Big Wavy : Would never deny anyone the right to protest. I merely state I think this 'sectional' protest (for that's what it is) personally would put the club in a difficult situation which could and should be avoided.

    Defending our religion, our Pope and our religious rights against anti-Catholic organisations such as the Orange Order and the DUP is allowed in a democratic society.

    Big Wavy : Celtic, despite reports to the contrary, are not a recognised religion and thankfully are an inclusive club, not the sporting wing of the catholic church. The OO and DUP are odious creatures but it's not Celtic's battle. By all means campaign away but I don't think Celtic should be that platform.

    I think it would be ludicrous from a PR perspective if Gregory Campbell put Celtic on the back foot by being lorded around Parkhead to see what WE are doing about bigotry and sectarianism.

    Big wavy : No Sean. Our 'fans' on the boat put us on the back foot. Campbell merely highlighted it and I suspect will be glad he done so. We could have ignored allowing it to be interpreted as compliance but I think the chairman is doing the right thing by pointing out our admirable record on the matter so we can put it to bed, before any unnecessary political capital is made of it.

    This man belongs to some of the most bigoted organisations on the planet and we have to prove to him that we are fighting sectarianism? Get real.

    Big Wavy : Now, now Sean. Let's keep this to the issue. We've been drawn into a sectarian stramash unfortunately and we wish to honourably get ourselves out of it.

    First and foremost Gregory Campbell and his Free Presbyeterian followers have branded Catholics, followers of the anti-Christ.

    Big Wavy : Agreed but as a broad church this is not Celtic's battle. Stand outside the DUP HQ in Derry with placards with this issue in mind.

    You (and our board) really should read some of the filth they have spewed out against the RC religion and the Pope.

    Big Wavy : Sean, I grew up in the north and I'm fully aware of campbell and his cohorts and their views on catholicism.

    So if Celtic fans want to show their displeasure at a reviled politician- just as we did so magnificently with the red card protest against Thatcher- am I right in thinking you would disapprove of the Celtic fans actions?

    Big Wavy : I take the issue on its merit Sean. On this one I'd think it would be counterproductive given we are reacting to a situation we (celtic fans) created. On Thatcher, and as an angry youngster I waved mine at Hampden that day.

    Or perhaps you would have told that brave black women who sat in the whites-only section of a bus in the deep south of the USA all those years ago that she should know her place and not give the enemies of the negro a stick which to beat them?

    Or maybe the Iraqis should not have the gall to tell incoming Celtic chairman John Reid that they disagree with an illegal war and want THEIR country back?

    Big Wavy : Cut me the sanctomonious rubbish Sean please. This is a celtic site talking about the rights and wrongs around the club and is a broad church of opinion. I don't see what this has to do with it fella. If you wanna create Political Quick News then I'll probably subscribe but I'll be keen to keep Celtic out of it.

    Brian Quinn has got this one badly wrong. Just as he and his board colleagues did with the appointment of John Reid.

    Big wavy : All about opinions fella. I think Brian Quinn done the right thing and I'm yet to judge Reid's tenure as chairman as he hasn't started.

    Cheers

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:32, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    pro/con Toun.

    Pro ex-residents include half of Franz Ferdinand,Rikki Fulton and Fr Jack Hackett and..Lulu went to school there.

    Con
    -Gordon Ramsay,lived there when he was learning all about red meat.

    Con!!http://i2.tinypic.com/xcn87n.jpg

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:37, big liam said…

    Gregory campbell being an honorary Grand master of the orange order that he is , has used Brian Quinn's kind gesture as a publicity stunt for himself and an Ideal way to fire a shot at the Footballing institution he despises.

    The man thinks he's now getting a free lunch at the game on the 2nd of January.

    I wonder will he share the boat over with us then ?

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:38, miketw10 said…

    Big Wavy,

    And don't forget.... We don't see Rangers inviting George Galloway over to Ibrox for much the same reason! It's all about commandeering the moral high ground here!

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:47, dontbrattbackinanger said…

    'This is a Celtic site talking about the rights and wrongs about the Club and is a broad Church of opinion'

    Exactly!

    This is the sort of issue the blog covers so well.Our views on this are just as relevant as to who plays fullback[maybe GCampbell is coming over for a trial;~@]or if CKillen is good enough for a place in the team.

    I think this is the second,uncharacteristic,error by BQuinn in a short time-the first being his comments on Dida.

    Maybe he's demob happy.

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:48, Piratecnic said…

    Piratecnic

    Big Wavy

    Celtic has not taken massive strides in eradicating sectarianism. The measures taken in recent times has impacted more against supporters singing Irish rebel songs (me) and less on those few unreconstructed souls (sectarian bigots) who use sectarian add- ons or songs of the 'Roamin in the Gloamin' (not me). The vast majority of supporters I have described, including myself, have not changed our opinion one iota on how we view our fellow human beings of whatever religion. So please do not confuse the issues.

    Campbell is a sectarian bigot with a formidable track record of causing harm to Republicans and Nationalists - he made the bullets for others to fire. For him to be invited to Celtic Park in order to demonstrate what 'steps' the club has taken against people like myself is a gratuitous insult.

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:49, BigChipSuk said…

    The draw for the group stage of the UEFA Cup has placed Aberdeen in Group B along with Panathinaikos, Lokomotiv Moscow, Atletico Madrid & Copenhagen. This has to be one of the toughest groups in the whole draw... and it is eminently conceivable that the Dons could fail to win a single game!

    Meanwhile, The Khing of Kings may well have a better chance of further progress after Helsingborgs were drawn in Group H alongside Bordeaux, Austria Vienna, Galatasaray & Panionios.

    Group E looks pretty tasty too with Spartak Moscow, Bayer Leverkusen,
    Toulouse, FC Zurich & Sparta Prague.

    See the full draw here.

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:49, Big Wavy said…

    And don't forget.... We don't see Rangers inviting George Galloway over to Ibrox for much the same reason! It's all about commandeering the moral high ground here!

    Good point Mike. These things are about judgement calls and it was a story that was in the public domain that had cast a poor light on the club.

    We had a series of remedial options including the Rangers one (with Gorgeous George) of ignoring it. To proactively do what we did I thought was the right thing to do. We have a good record on the matter and if campbell wished to make more political capital out of it then we could take the steam out of it with our story where we invited him to view our progress.

    Cheers

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 09/10/07 12:56, Big Wavy said…

    Celtic has not taken massive strides in eradicating sectarianism. The measures taken in recent times has impacted more against supporters singing Irish rebel songs (me) and less on those few unreconstructed souls (sectarian bigots) who use sectarian add- ons or songs of the 'Roamin in the Gloamin' (not me). The vast majority of supporters I have described, including myself, have not changed our opinion one iota on how we view our fellow human beings of whatever religion. So please do not confuse the issues.

    Piratechnic - I merely used the term in how it has been labelled. We are not going to win on that technicality. Like it or not the blur between irish rebel songs and sectarian add-ons gets lumped under the sectarian banner. Celtic don't, nor should have to, make the differentiation, which is why we've introduced a charter, encouraged self-policing, punished offenders, etc to make celtic park and away grounds a place where we should sing about celtic and our history.

    Hope that helps.

    Big Wavy

     
  • At 09/10/07 13:05, Ulysses McGhee said…

    Tokyo boy dave

    nah I don't think Harry Hill is funny he has in the past been sporadically surreally funny.

    And Pennis ripping the mince out of celebs is so redundant as to be taking coals to Newcastle. It just takes a brass neck and the ability to be comfortable embarrassing stupid people who already do a grand job of making themselves a laughing stock.

    Very similar in fact to Dom Joly, how difficult must it be to archly dupe some unsuspecting tourists to London?

    No humour should be brave and sometimes unflinching in the mirror it holds up to society. Comedy should not just be a breeding ground for the next generation's comedy establishment (Ben Elton sharing a stage with Ronnie Corbett)- an establishment we were brought up to think poorly of mistrust. The more things change...

    Bill Hicks is/was funny and brave and a vanguard for people who have since fallen by the wayside.

    Billy Connolly can still tread the paths others would steer clear of.

    Oh wait a minute I think I'll scream into a comedy sketch sized mobile phone and wait for the offers from non comedic programmes to roll in.

    Here endeth the lesson...

     
  • At 09/10/07 13:24, Piratecnic said…

    Big Davy said

    "Like it or not the blur between irish rebel songs and sectarian add-ons gets lumped under the sectarian banner."

    That you present this as some sort of fait accompli suggests that you agree that it should be so. Apart from being completely inaccurate - Irish rebel songs are not sectarian - you are falling into the trap that you seek to avoid - you are tarring both sets of supporters with the same brush.

    "Hope that helps."

    Not really. Instead of seeing the incident as some sort of point scoring clamber for the moral high ground - how dignified is that? -comparing ourselves to that shower?- Celtic should publicly lecture Campbell on the countless incidents of routine anti Catholic abuse and assault meted out by his voters and co-religionists on their journeys back and forward to Ireland. Any non Orange or Unionist supporter who has had the misfortune to travel on a boat loaded with Rangers or Orange Order supporters will know immediately what I am talking about.

     
  • At 09/10/07 13:24, Paul67 said…

    new article posted.

     
  • At 09/10/07 13:31, Andrew said…

    Ulysses - Ben Elton, I am a real victim of disappointment in him, hosting the jubilee bash in 2002, how establishment do you want to be? But the real low was writing the Queen musical, nothing to do with musical taste, I just despise that group for the decision to break a UN boycott and play Sun City in the mid 80s.
    Scum bags and as an anti-apartheid campaigner in the 80s Mr Elton should have known better (not that keen on Rod Stewart for exactly the same reason).

     
  • At 09/10/07 13:33, Kano said…

    Big Wavy,

    you are correct with your broad church argument.

    Everyone is free to come to Celtic Park,as a private citizen.

    But under no circumstances should we be officially inviting people like Campbell as a guest,or Reid as an official representative of our club.

    What happend to the man and his wife on a ferry is not nice.

    But,really,an apology from Celtic will suffice in this matter.

    His is not the type to be held up as a decent person being abused by ned football thugs.

    And Brian Quinn may well be once again,opening his mouth and letting his belly rumble when he steps outside his comfort zone of finance and budgets,rather than doing the correct thing.


    Some of the people on that boat may have had far deeper and more important reasons for disliking Campbell and what he stands for that have nothing to do with Celtic.

    And perhaps they were models of restraint considering what has gone on in recent history.

    I don't know,I was not there.

    And Brian Quinn would do well to remember that before he starts spouting off.

    Apologising on behalf of Celtic and inviting bigots and racists to be guests of our club.

    We would all be a lot better if he stuck to money and budgets and business plans and Babbity Bowser lunches and dinners than being the mouthpiece of all things decent as far is Celtic is concerned.

     
  • At 09/10/07 13:41, Sean South said…

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  • At 09/10/07 13:55, Sean South said…

    Sean South said...

    Big Wavy at 12.31:Congratulations on your superb debating skills and well-reasoned response.

    You made your case for the defence with outstanding clarity and I think both strands of conflicting opinion have been made clear without too much of a slanging match (well the sanctimonious jibe was a tad spiky).

    The debate I think has shown that CQN can be a platform for intelligent and enlightening discussion even on the most decisive and sensitive of subjects.

    I, of course, will agree to disagree with you on some issues.

    But that little frank exchange of conflicting views shows there is far more unites us than divides us.

     
  • At 09/10/07 13:59, Sean South said…

    Sean South said...

    Big Wavy at 12.31:Congratulations on your superb debating skills and well-reasoned response.

    You made your case for the defence with outstanding clarity and I think both strands of conflicting opinion have been made clear without too much of a slanging match (well the sanctimonious jibe was a tad spiky).

    The debate I think has shown that CQN can be a platform for intelligent and enlightening discussion even on the most divisive and sensitive of subjects.

    I, of course, will agree to disagree with you on some issues.

    But that little frank exchange of conflicting views shows there is far more unites us than divides us.

    But I do have more empathy with Kano's view.

    09/10/07 13:55

     
  • At 09/10/07 18:05, EdwardUrsus said…

    Piratecnic :- You mention the mix up between sectarian and republican songs yet a minute later you make the same mistake mixing up loyalist and sectarian songs. My view is singing republican/nationalist (as an outsider I'm not too sure on the difference) or loyalist songs is fine. Singing sectarian songs or adding on sectarian lines to other songs is wrong.

     
  • At 09/10/07 19:21, Bhoy_Molloy said…

    At 09/10/07 12:18, miketw10 said…

    Bhoy Molloy @ 09:25

    Oh, I know the difference alright!

    Saying someone is crap when they're obviously NOT is a personal attack IMHO. And I'm not just talking about Caldwell at right-back!
    ___________

    Dont you get it, thats a matter of opinion.

     
  • At 10/10/07 14:25, Declan said…

    From the come on boro website where dida has won the Cheat of the Week award.

    There was a young man from Milan
    Who took a slight slap from a fan
    He fell to the floor
    Like an Amsterdam whore
    Now the soft twat is facing a ban

     
  • At 10/10/07 19:20, Kojo said…

    My dear friend, Declan....

    I appreciate the Limerick... well composed and has a bite to it



    Howevvvvvvvvvvvvahhhhhhhhh!

    I would be much obliged it you could see to it that the word .....

    "SLAPPED"

    is OMITTED, in any future printings!

    Of course, THIS EXTREMELY INNACURATE DESCRIPTION OF THE CELTIC'S FAN'S ACT.... is now firmly ensconced in the PUBLIC MEMORY...
    Deviously, placed there .... by GUESS WHO?....

    You know the old adage?
    Tell a lie, often enough... and soon it will be accepted as truth?

    The action by the demented Circus Monkey, was this........

    It was a MERE TAP on the SHOULDER!....not the Face!...what FACE?... that was the full extant of the act.

    Nothing more....Nothing Less...

    CHANGE THAT LINE....

    and do not be a Party to the Perpetuating of a Lie!

    Thanks.... in Advance!

    Kojo.
    Yer Pal... who likes ye.

     

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