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He scores...and another one!
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Another great night, my only downside is the idiots sitting behind me who criticise everyone every game.
TNBC
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Always a bridesmade
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Great performance - Aiden was world class. Hartley, McDonald and in spells Brown and Naylor really stepped up to the plate last night.
Am shocked at the praise certian members of our defence are getting, but thats for another day.
Was absolutely disgusted to her audible booing as Evander came on last night
Greatest fans in the world - hardly
celticfanscanbeadisgracelikeallfootballfans.csc
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... it's hard to stay mad when there's so much beauty in the world. Sometimes I feel like I'm seeing it all at once, and it's too much. My heart fills up like a balloon that's about to burst ...
And then I remember ... to relax, and not try to hold on to it. And then it flows through me like rain. And I can't feel anything but gratitude for every single moment of my stupid little life. You have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm sure. Don't worry ... you will someday."
" we dont care if we win lose or draw just as long as we´re there"
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Fighting the fuzz....
Yes but Dunphy ace card is his ability to say what he thinks which makes him in my view entertaining.
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Mich67-from the sect114 diehards I only heard warm applause for ESno's arrival.
C1st-what is Catalan for' oh!doctor I fear I have contracted the fearsome crabs from the visit of the loathsome Darnelists to our beloved Camp Nou! Even Franco on his worst day did not treat us with such cruelty! '
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I dont think we invite it Paul, It is not optional, it is bestowed upon us by the greater good.
Can you imagine if fate had you wearing the red white and blue...now that would be sinister...
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Michael__67
Couldn't agree more with your comments regarding our own support.
To many of our fans love to keep the myth of 'the greatest fans in the world' alive, when actually the team only gets complete support when they are winning.
any small mistake and a percentage of the crowd are straight on the players back, a few bad games and some players will never be forgiven.
The treatment of some players from our own so called greatest fans is disgusting. After all the great service Alan Thompson gave us towards the end of his Celtic career Rangers players got better treatment at Celtic park.
Agathe got the same and now I fear Naylor and Sno going the same way.
This is not the Celtic way and these so called supporters should have been around in the days of the darksides nine in a row then they would really have something to moan about.
We have never had it so good. The times will no doubt return one day when we really have something to complain about and some people might just realise that hob nobbing with the likes of Ac Milan and Man U wasn't that bad after all.
TNBC
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Paul
I think I said to you before that I questioned my sanity after THAT Spartak Moscow game.
My nerves were tottally shattered during the game and I experienced every emotion during it.
After it, when I got home, I couldn't sleep, I was so over joyed and excited. Yet, had one player, who gets paid a heck of a lot more than me, who I've never met in my life, had missed I'd have been dead upset.
I know there are more important things in life. Celtic and football are not more important than life and death.
Paul, I'm a wee bit older than you. In other parts of our life, we are grown, rational men who have responsibilities.
The fun of football, and Celtic especially, is that it allows us to enter another zone, away from all these responsibilities. We can go back to being a kid for 90 minutes. Meet our mates. Talk fitba.
Yes, there is a stress, but enjoy the ride. It wasn't so long ago stress was beating Airdrie in the Scottish Cup final.
Paul, If John Reid doesn't fancy the stress, give him my email address!
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Michael,
After the Barcelona game in the CL a couple of seasons ago when a section of the Celtic "support" saw fit to boo a certain ex-Celtic player's appearance as a sub for Barca, I have realised that, for all we generally get going when the team requires it (ironically usually a CL home game) the Celtic support has more than a fair share of moron's. See TNBC's comments as an example.
An uncle of mine once described the Celtic support as having more faces than Big Ben. Being a tad younger and naive at the time I felt, and told him so, that the comment was very harsh and outright wrong. But now (if you excuse his technical error) I am sure many of you on here would agree.
But let me gloss over that and just enjoy the fact that once more we have another victory at home in the CL which gives us hope for qualification for the last 16.
HAIL! HAIL!
TTT
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TheToke- I always took the booing at the Barca game to be for the player going off, who had done nothing to endear himself to the home support, than for the bhoy coming on; who had chipped in with the odd goal or two hundred in his time with us.
People have always booed at games; because not everyone goes to the game to support the team. God alone knows why they do it, maybe it fills a holw in their lives that is beyond psychotherapy,but they do.
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TighnabruaichCeltic/dont brattbakk
I wasnt in my usual seat, was sitting with my sister-in-law in section 137.
Both of us heard the booing, some of which came from around me, but far more from behind me, and more in the south west corner.
Anyone involved should be ashamed of thereselves. I turned to have a go at those behind me, but was blanketly ignored as they shouted over me listing some of Evanders weaknesses (or as a footballer of 20 years of age - things he needs to work on and develope)
Disgrace....
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TokenTim
I nearly got a doing by a couple of boys a few rows down from me in that Barca game, for applauding a certain ex player when coming on as a Sub.
The same people were pummiling Aiden not two months ago - they shouldnt even be allowed to watch him play...
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DBBIA
The Sandy McNabs haven't featured in any complaints I've read so far, but people are upset at the disturbances last night.
The fights you may have seen mentioned were internecine.
Also, people just cannot believe how much visitors from these shores drink. In this, at least, we are the same as them.
It seems to affect us in a different way though. We tend to be everybody's pals, but something vainglorious and triumphalist comes out in our separated bretheren.
I'm assuming that if the "Catalonia IS Spain" rumour is true, it's because they think this is actually funny, rather than a royalists' attempt to preserve the integrity of a neighbouring kingdom.
These are sweeping generalisations, I know.
One commentator this morning complained about people coming by the low-fares plane-load and buying up tickets for any part of the stadium, coming in totally bevvied and making a bit of a spectacle of themselves.
"That happened to me last year when Liverpool came," he wrote. "But at least they're quite a peaceful group. Unlike tonight's visitors."
Let's hope it all comes to nothing, but as I said the other day, past misdemeanours in Benidorm, Villarreal, Pamplona, and, especially, Barcelona in 1972, may be receiving little mention in the Scottish press, but nobody in Catalonia this week has forgotten any detail of them.
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C1st-The people of Barcelona,when comparing the Celtic support to their blue counterparts will be going from the sublime to the pediculous.
In last night's Evening Times I came across another example of their inability to come up with anything original- everything has to be a reaction to something we have started. So as we are close to Hamburg giants FC St Pauli the Glaswegian Bar,a hotbed of recidivist Darnelism, is now running a bus to watch SV Hamburg.
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Paul67
I have been watching Celtic a long long time and right now the wgs
Celtic are an enigma that I have recently been giving a bit of thought
Celtic over the last three years or so, is like watching a Barometer.
There are around five different levels anywhere between downright embarrassing to buddy brilliant.
Its a case of insecurely tapping the glass and asking which celtic will turn up today and then go and see
Case in point is lack of any form of consistency which was subject of debate recently.
If you wish to take your stress to that other level that we talk about
Take up serious golf mate or worse,
Combine both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
last16againihopebutwellmaybe csc
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Afternoon bhoys,
Don't post or read much anymore as don't have internet access in my new digs in the dirty south(of Spain)so apologies if this has been mentioned.
The darnel's rep certainly precedes them, that's for sure. I'm almost starting to feel sorry for them. Yesterday in AS there was an article regarding todays game with that lot and Barça. Basically saying that tonight is a High Risk game for the Mossos d'Esquadra due to the violent reputation of the Rangers support(their words). The comic element was provided by one of the best fotos I've ever seen; a grotesquely fat rangers fan, face and body covered in tats with a massive gold RFC chain. The caption read - "a Rangers fan"
Today there's an article about their CWC shenanigans which further pushes this Animals rep.
What it comes down to is that the Mossos are expecting trouble and, from my experience, when they expect trouble, they get it. The Mossos are VERY aggressive when the mood takes them. I personally have had my legs beaten with truncheons simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I've seen them beat a kid who must have been about 15 at best. Seen them beat bystanders who were clearly tourists. If there is not some kind of disturbance tonight then the Vatican should investigate the members of the Rangers Supporters Trust for Saints among the ranks.
If all this sounds very smug then it shouldn't. These "people" are mostly Scots and are being described as such(not Brits). It's Scotland's rep which will take a battering.
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I'm loath to distract people from actually talking about football, especially on a happy day like today, but there have been important developments last night and today for anyone following the G14/40 saga.
This from G14's own site.
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The G-14 Conference concerning the creation of a new international clubs organisation which was due to be held on 13/14 November 2007 in Brussels has been rescheduled. The Conference is now due to take place in January 2008.
"We were very pleased with the overwhelmingly positive response by invited and indeed non-invited clubs who wished to participate in the G-14 Conference. Clearly the subject of the Conference regarding the creation of a new, independent and international clubs organisation is one which has a strong resonance with Europe's leading clubs. At a time when there are multiple challenges for clubs, the need for such an organisation is more necessary than ever before," confirmed G-14 General Manager Thomas Kurth.
A further announcement will be made about the rescheduled conference in the next few weeks.
"The conference will be a landmark event for the future of clubs organisation and representation at international level," concluded Mr. Kurth.
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Nothing of great import there, it would seem. But here's Paul Kelso's take on the situation, from the Guardian website.
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The future of the G14 group of major European clubs is in doubt after it emerged that the organisation in its current form is to be disbanded. In a development that could have major repercussions for the balance of power in European football the G14 last night abandoned immediate plans to expand to 40 clubs and cancelled its annual conference, scheduled to take place next week in Brussels. The move came as Peter Kenyon, Chelsea's chief executive, said he would snub any invitation to join the organisation, preferring to exert influence from within Uefa.
The G14 general manager, Thomas Kurth, said last night that expansion plans had been postponed to allow more clubs to put themselves forward for membership, but the Guardian understands that the move was forced by leading clubs as part of a deal struck with Uefa's president, Michel Platini, on the Champions League format.
Platini is thought to have backed down on his proposal to have domestic cup winners enter the Champions League and will instead allow national associations to decide whether entrants should come from league or cup competitions. As a result the top three teams in the Premier League will go directly into the group stage and the fourth-placed side will play two qualifying rounds.
In return the clubs will rebrand the G14 as a new, independent and international clubs organisation, pledged to work more closely with Uefa. The G14 approach has been to threaten breakaway competitions and to back litigation by clubs against governing bodies.
Uefa has effectively outflanked the G14 by inviting leading clubs, including Chelsea who are not G14 members, to join the Uefa Strategy Forum. The forum will discuss the Champions League proposals on Monday.
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And here is another article from the Telegraph website.
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Chelsea would reject any invitation to join the G14 group of top European clubs, which has put the future of the organisation in serious doubt.
With Europe's biggest teams lining up for a fiht with Uefa over the future format of the Champions League, the G14 had been looking to step up the pressure by expanding their membership from 18 to 40 at a meeting in Brussels next week.
Chelsea were expected to be invited to become the latest Premier League side to join a group which includes Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United.
But Uefa are growing increasingly confident that they will secure a peace deal with the clubs at a meeting of their strategy council next Monday.
It is thought that Uefa president Michel Platini has bowed to pressure to drop his controversial scheme to open up the Champions League to the winners of domestic competitions, including the FA Cup.
That will be a major boost to Premier League sides who will now be guaranteed three automatic group places instead of the two they are presently allocated.
The team which finishes fourth in the League will have to go through two rounds of qualifying instead of one.
Uefa are confident of helping establish a new clubs' forum which will effectively spell the end of the G14's expansion plans and any lingering threat of a breakaway Super League.
Last night, in a further blow to the G14's aspirations, Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon revealed that any overtures to join the pressure group would be turned down. "I think European football has changed a lot since the formation of G14," said Kenyon, speaking at the International Football Arena conference in Zurich. "Back then, there was no real dialogue between the clubs and Uefa. Now the situation is different.
"There are a lot of major issues to discuss, and find a resolution to, with Uefa. Our position is that the clubs would best be served by a new independent club body working together with Uefa within the framework that has already been set up in co-operation with them.
"So, if we were to be officially invited to join an expanded G14, I think we would politely decline."
Last week The Daily Telegraph exclusively revealed that Chelsea's London rivals, Arsenal, were calling for a breakaway from Uefa unless Platini backed down over the reforms.
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Has UEFA played the "divide and conquer" card successfully yet again? Somehow I don't think we've heard the last of this story.
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Paul,
I remember hearing it one day at Ibrox. A thrilling three all draw began with Andy Thom filling my heart and finished with Andy Goram breaking it. I was still getting to my seats when Thom scored. Many people didn't realise we had scored until we saw 'them' going to take kick-off. (Later, Gerry McNee was not so observant) The celebrations rippled throughout our massed (although I must admit I hadn't been that day) ranks. We were separated from the event by time. But the feeling, and the roar, was exactly the same.
Andy Thom scored against Dundee United at Celtic Park. You know the game, you know the goal, you know the reaction and pandemonium. As it went in I was still recovering from the equaliser. Before the Madness ensued I heard the silence. That beautiful, tiny, indistinguishable, quantum leap. And I just stood, soaking it in, letting the noise and emotion wash over me.
Frank McAvienne against Dundee United.
Tommy Coyne against Rangers (and then Terry Butcher on the dressing room door)
Pierre against Airdrie.
Jorge Cadete from the touchline.
Jackie McNamara against Liverpool.
Harald against St Johnstone.
Henrik kept it going against Porto.
Lubo could sing out of his posterior.
Alan Thompson against Barcelona and more than a few times against Rangers.
Scott McDonald was the vocalist against AC Milan.
And Aiden last night...
In the moments between goals and realisations I am taken back to Thom's goals. To that incredible sound as we race forward from silence to primal.
In that moment we are one.
We are happy clapper and mineshafter.
We are brother, sister, mother, father and in-laws.
We are pro strachan, anti-strachan, free flowing, defensively minded, keeping it on the deck, resorting to the long ball, 4-4-2, 3-5-2, attacking wingback and inside lefts.
We are Catholic, Protestant, Buddhist, Anglican, Puritan, Friend and Foe.
We are communist, socialist, green brigade, prawn sandwich, fundamentalist, capitalist, Republican, Democrat and Rastafarian.
We are self employed, unemployed, wage slaves.
We are doctors, nurses, stars of stage and screen, plumbers, millionaires, matalan shoppers, accountants, green keepers and everything in between.
We are Mike Galloway, Rudi Vata and Tony Mowbray.
We are Paul McStay, Peter Grant and Andy Thom.
We are Henrik Larsson, Brian McClair and Darius Dziekanowski.
We are Paul Elliot, Didier Agathe and Bobo Balde.
We are Willie Maley, Jock Stein and Martin O'Neill.
We are Brother Walfrid, Fergus McCann and Brian Quinn.
We are last gasp winners, penalty shoot out losers, and European Champions.
We are curling free kicks, diving headers, two yard tap ins, screaming volleys and own goals.
But more, much more than this...
We Are Celtic.
And that comrade, is why we bring it into our lives.
Therags...
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Paul67:
there is no enigma: you choose to fufill an obligation given you at birth.
On the good days, thank your dad; on the bad days... look forward to the good days and thank your dad and mum.
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tighnabruaich
I have to agree with you on some 'supporters'. I sit almost at the back of 111 and as McGeady accepts his first pass of the night some cretin behind me shouts 'And what are you gong to do tonight ya wee d**k?'. Honest. There was not just the one either. Naylor got the treatment, Big JFK got it tight the whole match also. Where exactly do these guys get off?
I wonder if they were turning up in the midweek crowds of 15,000 for 0-0 draws against the likes of Partick Thistle in the early 90's? On nights like those how we would have dreamed about results and in particular a performance like McGeadys in the Champions League in the type of arena we have now. Back then it was light years away.
I also heard the very short booing of Evander Sno, though none of it from around where I sit (amazingly after all the abuse that had been dished out to others!). I hope whoever did takes a long look at themselves in the mirror.
I though bar the first 20 odd minutes we were fairly comfortable last night whilst playing far from our best. All the plaudits should rightly be bestowed on McGeady for a performance of the highest standard in Club footballs highest stage.
Paul Hartley also must have shown now that he is a first pick alongside Brown in centre-mid. At the start of the season I thought Brown/Donati was the best pair but Hartley has come in and bossed Celtic's midfield. It's great to se the way he has accepted the responsibility and thrived on it. He's now proving to be a very good signing.
All we need now is a 3 goal victory against Shaktar and we should be there!
HAIL HAIL
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Therags
Beautiful....
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Lazy Journalism alarm ....
"History suggests he may have a point. The last time they failed to score twice on Champions League duty in the Camp Nou occurred against Celtic in 2004." - Daryll Broadfoot
http://football.guardian.co.uk/Match_Report/0,,2018485,00.html
maybe an ex Celt practising his swing made him forget ?
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Michael_67, TNBC, DBBIA,
Without wanting to turn this thread into a "lets have a go at the support", I also was very nearly involved in a bit of boxing that night, in my case because I had a right go at a few eejits near me for booing that certain ex-player. Fortunately there were several other like-minded fans on my side and the eejits were left to sit cursing me (and presumably the player in question)under their breaths!
It still evokes a bitter memory for me, esp when I watched how C.Ronaldo was received by the Sp.Lisbon fans even although he scored the winning goal against them. For all that it was a minority of Celtic "fans" that night, it was still too large a proportion for me!
Celtic 1st,
I read with interest your comments re. the Catalonians' thoughts re. the Darnelistas, as I listened on TalkSport to a certain reporter - Graham Hunter - who is based in Spain (I actually think he is based in Barca, but can't confirm it) - spouting forth about how, many of the people of Barca would be looking forward to the Orc's visit as they still have fond memories of their previous visit in 1972!!
I nearly crashed my car on hearing this. Good to hear your take on the matter.
HAIL! HAIL!
TTT
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NielR,
Chelsea´s lack of interest presumably means that the Russian mafia does not want to get into bed with the Italian mafia. Well not at this stage anyway
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They were awarded their trophy in the toilet of the dressing room. I am pretty sure this is the kind of event that contributes to their'uniqueness' in the rich pageant of European football.
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Big Billy got to lift the Big Cup high above his head, for all to see, at the Estadio Nacional. Wee Greigsy would not have been able to do the same, without breaking the cistern.
More than a club, but more like a cludgie.
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Graham Hunter is a Darnelist. Nuff said.
Sack Duffield.
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An interesting Q and A from the Scotsman website
Question: just out of interest..as celtics away form is rightly described as awful..and how we rely on our home form..just wondered if rangers had ever won all 3 home games in the cl..?
Answer Never.....this is Wattie's 4th CL campaign and has played 11 away games....winning 3.
Wattie has now won a total of 5 from 21 games.
Rangers have played 45 CL games and have won 11 games in total.
Celtic have played 28 CL games and have won 11 games in total.
No Rangers manager has won all 3 home games in the CL....in fact no Rangers manager has won 3 games in the group stage in the same season.
Celtic were the first Scottish club to win 3 group games in the same season....which they've now done twice with Martin O'Neil the first manager...and Gordon Strachan becoming only the second manager to do so.
If we beat Donetsk....Strachan will have achieved this twice in successive seasons.
Let's try to give this interesting statistic the same stamina as Paul's clean sheet discovery!
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Thetokentim
Graham Hunter is based in Barcelona. He made his name as Terry Venables' interpreter in the 1980s.
Is he Scottish? I've never heard him speak.
I can tell you this. In 2004 after we knocked Barcelona out, Hunter was filing material to the papers back home lauding Celtic's achievement and support.
In that day's edition of El País, his by-line appeared beside an article that was scathing in its criticism of Celtic's tactics and lack of footballing ability.
Tell the people what they want to hear.
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Pics from Spain
HOW TO WIN FRIENDS
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Is that a monument they're urinating against?
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DBBIA 12:55
Made me laugh out loud - not an easy task faced with a grumpy old git like me.
The Rags - a class post.
Incidentally, is it possible to be a Prawn Sandwich Fundamentalist?
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http://www.dailymotion.com/search/celtic/video/x3etdz_champions-league-d-celtic-sl-benfic
It hurts more every time I see it
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DBBIA It is a monument to Fancesc Macia the father of Catalan separatism and a real legend to his people. It is hard to imagine a more offensive act to the Catalans than urinating on the main monument to their hero.
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Andy- thanx for that. Will these pix appear in the Scottish press?
No,I'm not holding my breath either.
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Well said Paul,
I can remember the Man u game at home in last season's campaign, they were gifted the penalty late in the game. I had to turn my back on the hoops and not watch the penalty, as I feared I was going to have a heart attack, Artur saves! and euphoria sweeps over me.
Therags, excellent writing!
Great result last night Gordon and Co.
Shocking tackle on Brown from a player who had a go 4 times at different players in the previous ten mins!
I watch most of our games at my club and we have the element of "fair weather" supporters a lot of posters are referring to today.
I have absolutely no time for them and let them know when hearing the same s***e coming from their mouths.
Hail to Hail to the "true" supporters and let's get behind them for the last 16!
BF
BTW does anybody know if Scott Brown is OK today?
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Hi Paul
Congrats on your early week profile on Aiden, it was a prescient piece and the fruits of his and DuPont's labours were there for all to see last night. Well observed amigo.
The Hunger -
oh aye. I think I posted this some time back. A guy who was in my 4H class at St Aidan's has never been into football. He thinks it is madness and he thinks I am among the maddest. He likens the season to the seasons and compares the sport to perennial gardening. He thinks the Celtic fans are the maddest as we can only ever aim to repeat what we achieved in 1967. He does though think the darnelists have a fair bit of landscaping to attend.
Darnel/Barcelona -
when Celtic played Barcelona in recent years the darnelists went to great pains to highlight the 'fact' that no 'friendship' exists between Celtic and Barcelona, that we could not 'claim' Barcelona as being one of the clubs with whom we have a 'special' relationship. Having espoused this 'fact' they then brought it upon themselves to 'support' Barcelona on account of the 'fact' that they had nothing to with us. Catalonia Is Spain is their way of trying to ingratiate themselves with those whom they consider to be the priest-baiters of Catalonia. I expect my usual flak for this but it is how they see things - Barcelona/Catalonia as a vanguard against what they perceive as the antichrist of right-wing Spanish Francoist Catholicism. Anti-football meets antichrist. After their tomfoolery at Megiddo Barcelona owe themselves a decent performance against the darnel. I hope they surpass Liverpool's most recent record tonight.
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Mich67
I sit in Block 107 in the North Stand and heard only applause for Sno.
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They really are showing their true colours in Barcelona. Still, I expect that the Scottish media will have a different take on it tomorrow.
Paul67, good article as always. I asked the same question half way through the second half - why do we do it? At that point we were playing well, but there was always the fear that the equaliser could come out of nothing. And the hope that a second goal would clinch the match.
My answer is that we do it to test our team against the best. We are perhaps a little spoilt turning up most Saturday's thinking how many rather than if we will win. Champions' League games are different. We have to win the league, then qualify just for the right to be there.
And we know that we now have a fearsome reputation at home. Can any club competing in the CL boast a better home record than us right now? We attend these games proud of our record, desperate for it to continue but with just a little apprehension that this might be the game when the record goes. That's where the edge comes from.
Supporting Celtic will always be a rocky ride, with amazing highs and devastating lows. I've seen a fair few of both over the last 35 years or so.
But there's not another team in the world I would rather follow.
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Paul,
I was thinking the same thing yesterday sitting in a clients office when I was focussed 90% on CQN Updates and 10% on writing a very large proposal. Why was I doing it and why was I feeling that my head was going to explode with the stress. I think I know why I do it but it would take a very long time to put into words. Suffice to say that no matter where I am in the world it will never change.
Still haven't seen the game but will settle down with a beer or 3 tomorrow when I get home and watch the re-run.
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WG,
Fear not the Catalans will find them a disgusting jacquerie of lumpen proleterian filth -
which of course they are.
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When Evander Sno came on for Skoosh last night there was three germans, two thai´s and a Scotsman in my living room giving both these fine young laddies a loud resounding and rapturous way-hay-hay-hay reception. I´m sure they didnae hear it for all the noise you lot were making !!
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"After I got home I realised that I don’t expect Celtic to win the Champions League this season; that ultimately I invest all this emotion and cause myself so much stress, when I am clear in the belief that the project will end in failure, disappointment and inevitable recrimination".
Paul67 - for that very reason I saw the game against Spartak Moscow as our CL Final, that was the one we had to win, the real prize for us was being there, as the chances of actually winning the tournament we all know are remote.
Mind you, watching that game was the most uncomfortable 130 minutes I have experienced this year.
Now anything we get from this tournament is a bonus, so last night for me was a walk in the park.
NB - As an after thought - do you think if CQN had been up and running in May 1967, there would have been guys on here on May the 26th slagging Jim Craig for giving away the penalty, analysing the team to death, slating players they've never liked, taxi for wee Bobby etc.
NBB - The Rags - 10 out of 10 for that.
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Celticlover
I usualy sit in block 107 and still manage to get annoyed at the negativity around me.
Genuinely wish I had been sitting there last night, as the negativity towards a young Celtic player was there for all to see (hear)....
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Wishita Groundsman- if further motivation were needed you may wish to point out to Barca that the Darnelista's worse result in Spain is their 6-0 defeat by Real.
I expect the Catalans will be treated to the'Red Hand Salute' as a further demonstration of solidarity.
If the season is like the season then we're in spring- a few green and white shoots are coming through, and we're crossing our fingers that they will bear fruit.
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Celtic_First,
Yes Hunter is Scottish mate.
Surprise! Surprise! on his journalism "ethics"!
I must admit I had 2 fantastic trips to Barcelona to watch the Hoops in the Uefa Cup and CL and yes you are correct re. the copius amounts of alcohol being swigged down by the fans. I went into a wee supermarket about 400yds down Las Ramblas from the Placa De Catalunya and watched with amusement, the bewilderment of the Catalonians' at the sheer volume of alcohol esp San Miguel, being bought by the Bhoys.
To be honest when it was 9.99Euros for a 24 pack San Miguel its not that surprising really is it???
One female cashier literally shook and scratched her head in disbelief at one guy not only buying, but being able to carry on his own, 2 slabs of San Miguel and 2 litre bottles of Smirnoff!
However with reference to Uncle P and the Mossos, I must admit to being a little surprised at their differing reactions to my presence at the 2 games (Uefa and CL).
For the Uefa Cup game 6 of us got tickets through a UK agency which has offices in Barcelona and were sitting amongst the Barca fans in the upper-middle tier. We were all decked out in Celtic colours as we approached the turnstiles. I noticed the looks we were getting from the Police/Mussos and thought "Oh Oh here we go, could be some trouble here", but far from it, they were polite, friendly even posing with us for some photos, no problem at all. Likewise with the Barca fans themselves, even though we KO'd them that night!
However for the CL game there was a marked difference in their demeanour and actions. Regardless of where your ticket was for, you were herded in with all the rest of the celtic fans into the upper tier where it was obvious from the outset that it was very overcrowded with fans sitting in the aisles and many were 2 or 3 to a seat.
Yet just below us, where only a small retaining wall separated the next level, there were hundreds of empty seats. I saw several Celtic fans climb over the wall only for the Police/Mossos to badly over-react grabbing some by the throat and others being hit on the neck/head with batons to stop them doing so.
They couldn't have cared less about our reputation as TGFITW and were not open or friendly to being asked a question such as "where are the toilets" either sneering in contempt or visibly reaching for the baton at their side.
It hit home to me how little it would take for them to react violently and more than likely indiscriminately to any disorder amongst us.
So to take the point further, I wouldn't like to be an orc in close proximity to any aggro if it breaks out tonight, esp if their reputation has preceded them as you and Uncle P have referred to!!
TTT
PS - Sorry for the screed, got carried away!
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I take it he'll have a different outfit on for going out Hun-skelping:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Catalunya-MossoDEsquadraEnVestitDeGala.jpg
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fellas,
Anybody know where I can watch tonight's Barca 'passy-shooty-in' on the internet ????
Cheers in advance
Big wavy
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13:43, Michael__67
I now sadly have to accept what you say about some booing for Sno. I reckon that you can go anywhere in C.P. on a big match day and there will be someone giving some player dogs abuse. It's so sad.But I also shake my head at the people who leave a match early regardless of the score at the time. How many left C.P. before the end of the extra time against Spartak when it was known that a result had to be arrived at? The no who have a genuine reason, would be no more than 20% in my opinion.
There are players I don't rate as being Celtic quality such as JVOH, Jarosik, Killen and perhaps Caldwell but I would nver boo them because they are wearing MY team's colours.
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The highlight of last night for me was the coming of age of Aiden Mc Geady.
As recently as last Saturday I was still wondering whether it was for him a case of all that glitters is not gold. I hoped but was not convinced by his contribution.
Now I have no reservations whatsoever. Only one other player that I have seen in green and white hoops has come close to having that ability to relieve pressure on his own side and cause consternation and unease to the opposition almost in the same phase of play. Last night I was reminded of Jinky. There can be no higher praise in my mind and that mind is made up now. The bhoy is a player and we're lucky to have him.
We're also lucky to have such a wonderful competitor as Scott Mc Donald. He was an example to everyone around him in terms of his effort. Sadly JVOH seems unable to display any sort of similar attitude and I continue to question his value to our team. The once in a while head flick that he wins does not do it for me.
Special word of praise for Jiri who was a victim of Binya's studs in the first half that time on his upper thigh. Unfortunately it was not seen by the assistant referee else he should have been booked then. His experience and calmness in this sort of environment has stood us in good stead and I for one hope he stays.
Finally and it may reflect the tension factor in watching my team but I felt again last night that the crowd was less than intimidating thatn usual. Are we getting blasé?
Are the newpaper reports of a crowd of 52000 correct?
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I fear a return to the "they wur hittin weans an wumin tae" line.
Spanish press not impressed.
Interesting to find out how this is reported in Scotland.
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The delayed Falkirk game will now be played on Tues,Dec 10th,k/off 19.45
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Except Tues Dec 10th is really Tues Dec 11th.
See youse there.
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Corrib04
If Eamonn`s strength is saying what he thinks he must have been switched off when he conducted a full page interview with Ali McCoist in the Sunday independant some years ago.
Somehow he managed not to ask Mr McCoist about Rangers peculiar employment policies.
He alsio neglected to ask hin about the peculiar selection policy of mr Souness that gained Ali the nickname of the Judge.Perhaps he might ask mr Souness himself now that Eamonn seems to be touting him for the ROi job.
We know that Ali and Mr Souness cater to a constituancy that sings about being up to their knees in Fenian blood but Eamonn has the distinction of playing in a field knee deep in blood when ROI played Chile in a football field that had been used as a concentration camp and execution site for the victim`s of Mrs Thachers good friend general Pinochet.ROI were the first foreign team to play in Chile following General Pinochet`s coup.
Eamonn at the time liked to parade as a socialist(I believe he is now a socialite) and wrote a dissertation on the struggle he had with his conscience in playing this game.I cannot recall who won the football match but I am happy to report that Eamonn won the battle with his conscience.
It was very entertaining watching the horror expressed by Eamonn`s fellow fellow panalists Mr Souness and Mr Giles at the dreadful tackle on Scott Browne.Eamonn did not think to mention John Fitpatrick or George McCluskey or the Staua Bucharest player whose career could easily have terminated at Ibrox in a European game.
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Corrib04
If Eamonn`s strength is saying what he thinks he must have been switched off when he conducted a full page interview with Ali McCoist in the Sunday independant some years ago.
Somehow he managed not to ask Mr McCoist about Rangers peculiar employment policies.
He alsio neglected to ask hin about the peculiar selection policy of mr Souness that gained Ali the nickname of the Judge.Perhaps he might ask mr Souness himself now that Eamonn seems to be touting him for the ROi job.
We know that Ali and Mr Souness cater to a constituancy that sings about being up to their knees in Fenian blood but Eamonn has the distinction of playing in a field knee deep in blood when ROI played Chile in a football field that had been used as a concentration camp and execution site for the victim`s of Mrs Thachers good friend general Pinochet.ROI were the first foreign team to play in Chile following General Pinochet`s coup.
Eamonn at the time liked to parade as a socialist(I believe he is now a socialite) and wrote a dissertation on the struggle he had with his conscience in playing this game.I cannot recall who won the football match but I am happy to report that Eamonn won the battle with his conscience.
It was very entertaining watching the horror expressed by Eamonn`s fellow fellow panalists Mr Souness and Mr Giles at the dreadful tackle on Scott Browne.Eamonn did not think to mention John Fitpatrick or George McCluskey or the Staua Bucharest player whose career could easily have terminated at Ibrox in a European game.
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http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2007/11/07/futbol/1194423859.html
just starting to k.o then ?
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Uncle P,
What´s Bono doing supporting Rangers ? hasn´t he been knighted already ?
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Dec 11 is the week of the final round of CL fixtures - our game in Milan being a week earlier.
So when do the other lot play their rearranged game?
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What is the difference between a 'hincha 'and a 'seguidore'?,por favor?
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In Aiden we have a precious jewel, the closest to Jinky I have seen, and I had the privilege of watching him on countless occasions. Let's cherish our new hero as much as we adore our departed one. DBBIA Hincha would equate to - 'fan' where Seguidore would be 'supporter' or 'follower' I think. Clarification C-F?
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Paul
Now you know what it's like to be a Hearts supporter in the SPL.
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BoltonBhoy has it correct DBBIA:
Seguidor means follower
Hincha means fan.
However, there's no real difference in meaning. You could use the two equally.
Aficionado means the same thing, and it gave us the similar-looking English word.
The word they would use for the mad mental team is, of course, 'ultras'.
Hooligan, now, is an interesting one. For years following Heysel, people in the Spanish media used this word to mean a supporter of any football club from England or Scotland, in a similar way to pretentious journalists here using the word 'tifosi' to refer to Italian fans.
I've noticed some in the Barcelona-Rangers coverage making that mistake. Others, however, have used the word 'hooligan' knowing perfectly what the distinction is.
There seems to be quite a lot of tension building up. The story of initial trouble last night and more expected is right across the Spanish media today.
Andycol is right about Francesc Macia. That is real desecration.
WG could have a point. If they're saying that Catalonia, for them, is Spain (is that what you mean, WG?) because it was a hotbed of anarchy and anti-clericalism in the build-up to the Civil War, it would have a different meaning.
Incidentally, these days, Catalans are expressing radical nationalism, not through anti-clericalism, but through anti-monarchy gestures such as burning effigies of the king and queen. How do you like them apples, Rangers fans?
In any case, the Rangers fans have badly misjudged how their use of language is going down in Catalonia. If they'd wanted to show solidarity, they ought, at the very least, to have written Catalonia as Catalunya. Then they'd maybe have had an argument.
But I don't think that is what they mean. I think they think it's a big laugh. Let's hope it doesn't end in tears.
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Fantastic game of football last night. The game had so much for the neutral and the celtic fan. Ebb and flow, near misses, individual excellence, a goal, a horrible tackle and resultant sending off, etc. Our home form is on a par with any in Europe now.
Amongst all the congratulations, there are still a few footballing issues worth considering.
In the 1st half, during that spell when our midfield couldn't get near the ball, the deficiencies of our team were exposed. In particular, the way that Scott Brown and Paul Hartley were being overrun in the middle of the park. For me, the problem lies with our centr backs inability to carry the ball, or even draw the attacker in close enough to commit to the space. Stephen McManus, in particular, is one prone to play the ball forward to a midfielder who is closely marked. He is so uncomfortable under pressure, that he releases the ball early. By doing so he allows our midfield to be outnumbered, with the opposition relying on 2 attackers to keep the 4 defenders under pressure. Compare that with Benfica's backline who were happy to carry the ball beyond our attackers, commiting the first of our midfielders and creating a numerical advantage further up the pitch.
The same applies to Gary Caldwell and Lee Naylor. They commit to the pass, alolowing the opposition attacker to compress the space down the line. In comparison, the Benfica full backs were able to feint to play the pass, and still drag the ball inside.
Until we encourage our existing defenders to back themselves in this way, or we buy new players, we will continue to struggle against teams who can pass and move.
Without an inpired performance from Aiden, we would have been under the cosh the whole game last night.
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Celtic_First - wouldn't 'hincha' be a more dedicated 'seguidor'? That's what I had always thought anyway. As for Catalunya, the Catholic Church and Franco - wasn't it the monks of Monteserrat that kept thet Catelan language alive while it was banned during the repressive years of the Franco regime? Or is that another urban myth. Off now to dust of my Larsson Barcelona top that my late dad gave me!
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Boltonbhoy
The Catalan language didn't need the help of the monks at Montserrat, although I'm sure they've always been very gifted in using it.
The Basque language was kept alive by priests, that's for sure.
Catalan was the language of the urban upper-middle classes as well as the peasants. It was never going to suffer the same fate as Basque or Galician. That's why Catalan has such a rich 20th-century literary tradition.
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Re the Barcelona top I should have added that it rightfully belongs to my younger brother, John - just in case you're lurking - you can have it back after tonight!!
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John, make sure he washes it.
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Well, I didn't wash my neck for a year after Joe McBride patted it at Ravenswood Stadium, Cumbernauld one night - so what chance the strip if Barcelona set a new CL record tonight?
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Celtic win 3-0 aganst Shaktar and don't qualify for final 16? Give it some thought!
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Kevtic-if you're lurking-the Carlisle v Forest game on Sun 18th has been postponed;they're saying it is because NF have international call-ups but I think they're feart.
Unfortunate for CU as they lose the cash and publicity for having the 4pm SS1 game.
Bu##er.
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Someone was asking if Brown was OK. The guy who sits next to me at work is aneighbour of Scott Brown and het tells me he is fine.
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celticlover - if Benfica beat both Shaktar and Milan and we lose to Mlan we will be on same points and head to head. Do they have a better co-efficient than us? Just a guess.
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Paul,excellent article, for me it hits the button about why I follow and support Celtic. I suppose initially it was down 2 the fact that my dad took me 2 the games when I was wee then I just picked it up myself and went with my pals.
Sometimes there is just no reasoning 2 it or as you say rationality is left at the turnstiles. It is. Who else would stress all week and infact all year, near enough 24/7 about a game? And that's just us what about the followers of wee diddy teams, arguably more committed than we r. Anyhow there is no reasoning 2 it, I remember trying 2 explain 2 my parents that they and Celtic were the only constants in my life. My mum was incredulous at this and my dad did not say much.
It is hard 2 explain what Celtic means 2 me but therags, you summed it up.
Hail Hail
philisophicalcsc :)
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I hope Scott Brown is fine. If I was in charge of his care though, I would be organising an MRI of his knee. The fact that his leg hyperextended combined with his needing to come off would suggest that there might be an issue. A small injury might not produce an immediate swelling, but today might be different. I really hope not, but I don't think his initial "gut feeling" can be relied upon.
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Paul, I think the cavemen were stressed out as well, but probably more so if you belonged to the Troglodyte CSC
HHB
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Druiddude,
You're not a fan then?
I wouldn't know anything about Souness/McCoist (They're watching y'know!)
Being a conscientious persion myself I concur with your analysis of the Chile match. Disgraceful and no excuse.
I am not an apologist for Eamonn Dunphy however I reserve the right to be entertained on occasion by his ranting style of Punditry.
I didnt find the Brown tackle piece entertaining either. Did I say I did in my earlier post?
Where is P8ddy when you need him.
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Funny enough, I was stress free before the game and exhilarated after it.
It was the best starting XI available so I was content and even during the game Strachan shocked me with timely correct subs.
Its a shame we dont have players playing in position to see what these lads are really capable of.
If we get a right back a left sided midfielder and a striker to accompany SMcD then this team will have real shape.
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Corrib04
Thanks for your reply.
I am not a fan of Eamonn but I do think that his ravings add to the gaiety of the nation.
I leave it to better men than me (Liam Brady,Con Houliha,)to allegedly punch his lights out,
I think Michael D Higgins hit the nail on the head when ,following one of Eamonns rants in the Sunday Indo against him he said
"Dunphy is the type whose presence would clear a pub...the most damning comment that can be made in this juristiction.And when discussing Mr Souness it must be acknowledged that he fairly smashed the resrictive practice policy in operation at Ibrox(and wiped our eye in a stunning manner when doing so it must be admitted)
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the beauty of Japanese TV...
i'm now watching the game re-run without bleary eyes (it was 4:45am KO for me then)...(it's 0130 now!)
it's half time... i know what's in store... what difference that makes!
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therags @ 12:31
CLASSIC!!!
STRAIGHT INTO MY TOP 5 CQN POSTS...
the other 4 are yet to be written.
HAIL HAIL THE CELTS......
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this ones for Aiden. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onJud5Jb5nQ
tbdT
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Reserves beat Mothers 3-0, Frosty got the middle goal, Magic and McGlinchey the others, all in second half.
Sky Sports News has been turned off chez moi on account of being a hun love-in.
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agree entirely with itz...
The Spartak game WAS the big game, and in the midst of the trauma that night, I offered up a small prayer/deal that I would take/accept whatever came our way, as long as we got there.
There's also a part of me that would prefer 3rd place, since I think we could really progress in the UEFA cup, rather than being dumped out in a glorious-failure scenario against one of the giants.
HH
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Kate Bush hinted December would be magic. Eight games :-
01 Spambos away
04 AC away
08 Huddies home
11 Bairns home
16 Invers away
22 Squibs home
26 Scarabs away
29 Gretans home
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Kate Bush smokes like a lum. Fact.
And she can run uphill. No problem.
I must admit to her being a signature to my awareness of change in the male human body. many years ago.
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Druiddude,
I actually met him once, he was an approachable kind of guy believe it or not.
I think Johnny Giles wanted to punch his lights out a few years back also.
I find (like you maybe?) that his pally pally routine with souness is a bit nausiating.
Perhaps in their dislike of all things Celtic they have found a common bond. Not uncommon in the EPL loving Irish Media sadly.
...but im not bitter about it, honest.
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Kate Bush = [fly button]splitter
Doesn't look like there wil be much time for gardening in December.
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dalghety bhoy,
thanks for the info on Scott Brown.
If Scott was injured knowing how he goes about his game, he wasn't going to show it to Binya.
I see Binya is pleading his innocence today
BF
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Uly -
and that will be three Hail Marys, young man, which UEFA (Union of Erotic Fiddling Arbitraters) will doubtless reduce to one on appeal.
She was, of course, Dave Gilmour's protege, the lucky, lucky...
She also kept my mother's couisin off top spot in the chart in 78.
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not my mother's cooking, her cousin.
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bhoysfour
Binya,done it, bought the tee-shirt.
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....and smoking like a lum ?
She probably smoked like the burning....er.....bush ?
Best no go there either....
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Kate Bush is it?
I don't see it myself.
I think she looks like Boy George with a marginally better wig.
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WG
Who's your mother's cousin. Not Gerry Rafferty?
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Sellik first -
indeed
okay if Bush is Con in your book of pulchritude, who is Pro ?
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I see the rangers fans are making headlines in Spain
The Hooligans Take Barcelona
Aparently, 700 of them have been involved in disturbances in the city centre, chucking bottles...
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Teser
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Headline should have read "Hooligans Take Over Barcelona"
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WG
Mrs First.
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Paul67
Are you aware if Skoosh has gone for an MRI scan?
If so, results of...?
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Uefa will investigate Augustin Binya's horror tackle which forced Celtic midfielder Scott Brown out of Tuesday's 1-0 Champions League win over Benfica.
Binya was shown a straight red card by Swedish referee Martin Hansson for the challenge late on at Celtic Park and faces at least a one-match ban.
Brown accused his opponent of trying to break his leg and urged Uefa to take further action against the midfielder.
A Uefa spokesman said: "We always open a disciplinary case for a red card."
A solitary strike from Aiden McGeady kept alive Celtic's aspirations of reaching the last 16 of the Champions League.
But the evening was soured by Binya's malicious stamp with five minutes remaining.
Brown said: "I'm all right. It was a bad challenge but I've come through it and can you let pggtips know that the MRI scan was ok."
"I don't think the guy should ever have done that. He obviously tried to do me as hard as possible."
Uefa's disciplinary body next meet on Thursday, 15 November and the spokesman added: "There will be at least a one-match ban.
"But all red cards are judged individually so we will need to wait until the meeting to see if there will be a further ban."
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Was Mrs First perchance looking over your shoulder as you wrote that CF???
Awe_Naw,
Hows things in the Financial heartland of the fatherland today then??
TTT
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:-p
Cheers awe_naw! Much obliged
LOL
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Another victory over that lot.
DERBY day arrived in the Middleton Sunday League last weekend, and Langley Celtic swept to a 5-2 home win over Langley Rangers.
Hall claimed three of the goals for Celtic whose other scorers were Kelly and Landregan.
Whitehouse and Zenzic were on the mark for Rangers.
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Kate Bush snores terribly and smokes in bed. Or should that be the other way round?
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Mr Angry
Since the sacking of Gordon Strachan seems to be off the agenda for the moment how would feel if los hunos sacked the cathedral again?
Have you read Darwin`s Angel (a response to the God Delusion) by the lapsed lapsed Catholic John Cornwell?
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Tokentim,
keeping the Euro well above the dollar. I hope you appreciate the efforts I´m going to so that we can all particpate in next summers USA tour.
Howz Tokentim clan doing anyway?
R u going to see the bhoys beat the EC champs twice in two months ?
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Tinytim-
"a clean sheet" for Gordon Strachan.
After TWO League titles.
The Scottish Cup
The Scottish League Cup
Last sixteen of The Champions League
3 points clear of the soapdodgers at this moment.
3 brilliant results at home in europe this season already.
YOU OWE HIM
and I am NEVER going to let you forget it.
noel.busyhammering6inchnailsintoa
tinytimsizedbaseballbatatthismoment.
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just seen the trailer for Reporting Scotland, and the mention (and show) all the lads having a great time in Barcelona...
No mention of any trouble. Quelle surprise.
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Corrib04, true.
Taggsybhoy, aye, I am sure John Reid will enjoy the stress.
Mickybhoy, golf will need to wait until the kids have grown up.
NeilR, thanks for that update.
Theragswe..
Thank you, I have my answer. I am going to keep that post of yours if I ever forget.
Kitalba, aye, I will. Thanks Martin42.
Dontbrattbacj, 12:55, :-)
WG, It sure was a prescient piece. The boy done good.
Itz, aye, Spartak was our final, but the damn things keep on coming.
Good call re Jim Craign on 26 May 1967.
Merryleebhoy, cheers.
Pggtips, I hear (from our friends above and other sources) that Scott is fine.
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Noel90,
you forgot to mention the state of the finances and if you need haunders then let me know. I got a nail gun and a blow torch :-)
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druiddude
No I haven't read Darwin's angel but I did read The Dawkins Delusion by Alister McGrath.It was nonsense.
I would recomend "God is Not Great" by Christopher Hitchens, "Letter To A Christian Nation" and "End of Faith" by Sam Harris.
As far as the gers, I am really looking forward to listening to them getting stuffed. 7-0 has a nice ring to it.
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AweNaw-
Pliers ?
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A guy is 81 years old and loves to fish. He was sitting in his boat the other day when he heard a squeaky voice say, " Pick me up."
He looked around and couldn't see any one. He thought he was dreaming when he heard the voice say again, " Pick me up."
He looked in the water and there, floating on the top, was a frog.
The man said, "Are you talking to me?"
The frog replied, "Yes, I'm talking to you. Pick me up. Then, kiss me and I'll turn into the most beautiful woman you have ever seen. I'll then give you more sexual pleasure that you ever could have dreamed of."
The man looked at the frog for a short time, reached over, picked it up carefully, and placed it in his front pocket.
Then the frog said, "What, are you nuts? Didn't you hear what I said? I said kiss me and I will l give you sexual pleasures like you have never had."
He opened his pocket, looked at the frog and said,
"Nah, at my age I'd rather have a talking frog."
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Noel90
and Willie Wallace´s son Marcellus?
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Noel
Spot on re TinyTim.
Whilst I am not the biggest fan of GS (more his media persona than anything else)he is doing a great job and we should be thankful we have him.
What frustrates is that the ones that shout loudest are the ones the phone ins like and so it goes on and on and the media can continue to peddle the 'fans don't like GS' story.
Anyway a wee glow of satisfaction everytime he shuts up the doubters in the stands and the media must be great for the wee man.
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Noel,
If it helps, I'll send you a Daniel O' Donnell CD.
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Reporting Scotland update:
"the Rangers' head of security dismissed rumours of trouble in Barcelona city centre... blah blah"
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mosiey17,
not having a go here. Just showing the diversity of opinion. WGS shoul
d be held up as an example to every prospective Celtic manager in how to handle the media.
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oldies but goldies (last one)
Men and women on earth die and go to heaven.
God comes and says :-
"I want the men to form two queues, one line for the men who had control over their women, and the other one for the men who were
controlled by their women. Also, I want all the women to go away so
that no man and woman can talk."
Next time God comes back, the women are gone, and there are two
lines. The line for the men who were controlled by their women is 100 miles long, and in the line of men who had control over their women there is only one man.
God gets mad and says, "You men should be ashamed of yourselves. I
created you in my image, and you were all controlled by your mates.
Look at the only one of my sons who stood up and made me proud. Learn from him!"
"Tell them, my son, how did you manage to be the only one in this
line?"
The man replies, "I don't know, my wife told me to stand here."
boom boom
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The two pundits, Brian Little and Pat Dolan,on Setanta last night, spouted the media/phone- in garbage about the fans not liking GS and that he'll be off this season, whither or which.
Working in the shadow of MON, blah de blah. How out of touch are these guys.
Couple that with the reported nonsense from Dunphy on RTE and you realise how anti Celtic is the Irish Establishment.
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Thanks Paul, that's terrific news.
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hi fellow celts.
definately not one for the laptop loyal. but couldnt have called it better than leckie did today . we would be one hell of a team if the players all turned up on the same night. we are still in the hunt for that last 16 place ,but i,ll tell you, we have players who are doing more than their share to make that possible. im not a football manager never will be .but if i was, about half that team who played last night would be on their way. they are picking up good money for doing absolutely he haw.i wont mention names ,i wont need to .we all know who they are .a wee word to gs if i was you i would get rid of them. before they get rid of you. and to the bhoys who did battle for the jersey and kept us in the hunt. as big jock would have said . that jersey didnt shrink tonight bhoys because you were not inferior.
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a woman walks into a bar and asks for a double entendre. So the barman gave her one.
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First chance to post since the game.
Admittedly I have not been one of Aiden McGeady's biggest fans, but last night he was simply sensational.
Hartley, too, was excellent.
Overall it was a fantastic team performance and another great evening at Celtic Park.
Hopefully this round of the Champions' League will be concluded with the right result in Barcelona.
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I have a darnelist sending me emails from you tube.He is stating that we are as bigoted as them.
Can anyone point me to any articles that show that he are not as bad as them?
Or indeed any reports on sectarian crimes in Scotland carried out against RC's.
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Mr Angry
Thanks for the response.
I have not read any of the books on your list(including the John Cornwell book which I have recently acquired)
My interest in John Cornwell was prompted by a review of an autobiography of his childhood spent in a very catholic milieu in Scotland.
He wrote about it in a very detached but rancour free manner and the book hit a few buttons in my background.I intend reading it at some future date.
I would recommend an article on Christopher Hitchens by Norman Finkelstein(Hitchens as model Apostate)...a hilarious example of sustained invective
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Tinytim
Dont get involved.Rise above ma man.
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Druiddude - Pardon my interruption, but Hitchens???
A truly vile man, whose attacks on "religion" in practice seem mostly to be about his hatred of Islam and Christianity, for the usual neocon ethnic reasons.
Gorgeous George had it right. A drink-soaked popinjay indeed.
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Accordint to Garry McAllister on Sky "not even a hint of trouble" in Barcelona.
Shameful
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i see the expansion of the G14 has been shelved for now, allegedly under pressure from uefa
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Phil
You and Norman (and George Galloway) are singing from the same hymn sheet.
If you are unfamiliar with the Norman Finkelstein article I think if you look at it on the internet(Norman Finkelstein.Christopher Hitchens as Model Apostate)you will be in for a treat(and a good laugh)
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AweNaw-18.41-
and his "pipe hittin'" mates.
Tom The Tim-
Daniel O'Donnell?
I want to set about Tinytim-
not make him top himself.....
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Fernandinho of Shakhtar who will be suspended against Celtic becouse of the yellow cards was voted their best player of the first round in Ukraine.
Ilsinho voted Shakhtar's best against Milan.
Carlo Ancelotti to the press:
Who of the Group D contenders shall be competing for the second position?
I think that Shakhtar’s class is considerably higher than that of Celtic’s. But its not the point. It is a real challenge to play in Glasgow. But Shakhtar players’ individual skills and their team organisation are on a higher level.
Of course it's not the point. If it's a point why loose against worse team and win against better team?
Who knows maybe there will be another Pole in January in Celtic?
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All these T.V. pundits that are going on about there being no trouble in Barcelona are stating to everyone that trouble is expected by some means.
Wherever Celtic fans go,i have never heard any pundit saying anything like that about them.
Intelligent people watching the T.V. will realise what Rangers fans are actually all about by this.
Hail Hail
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Nelsboy
I want to shoot him him down with intelligent comment and facts.
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PF
" I represent guys all the time and constantly address courts on how their behaviour is improving"
I take it you would not make these claims under oath.lol.
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evenin chaps,
how good was paul hartley last night by the way.
was wondering if any of you fine chaps could help me?
Is it still possible to watch football on the internet via sky sports? Im sure i read somewhere for a few pounds you can do this.. desperate to watch the mighty gers tonight...
cheers
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Jim White making right slip and putting McAlistair in position.Reminding everyone on National television that John Greig is the only player EVER to be presented with a European trophy behind closed doors.
Couldny buy it.
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Delighted there has been little or no trouble in Barcelona so far.
bazzabhoy - uefa.com will link you to live CL games wherever you are
Agree on Paul H - intelligent player coming onto form
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bazzabhoy
At the risk of stating the obvious, go to skysports.com and follow the instructions.....
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Bazza
Try livefooty.com
This is free.
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cubist funk, legend mate. may67 been there, couldnt find any instructions for this. nelsbhoy, cheers lad.
thats me off for a right good chuckle!
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Nelsbhoy, I think it might be .org
BF
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A minute and a half gone and Alan Hutton has made his first dive...predictable!
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1-0 Barcelona, henry goal.
Let the floodgates open! Hahaha.
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Barca 1 Blacknecks 0
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1 - 0 Henry. Could this be the start of a big performance?
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It was actually a handball by Henry to put it in, even sweeter.
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bazzabhoy
About a third of the way down the home page there's a bit in the middle entitled "Champions League on pc". Enjoy :-)
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awenaw...
hope you don't mind, but I cut and pasted yer jokes
Bazzabhoy,
totally agree re Paul Hartley, I was telling everyone who would listen in January how good a signing he was. I was called the "president of the Paul Hartley fan club".
I heard that he was on his way to Ibrox when his agent called saying he was wanted at Parkhead, shortly thereafter Walter Smith called but Paul shut his phone off!:)))
Good to see him playing well and loving life with the Hoops.
BF
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cheers may67. got it now, £3 so cant brumble. 2-0 lyon
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Do the huns know there are goalposts at the other end too?
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trouble in stadium
but they were baited with an irish tricolour
says chick young
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Paul
Jovoh wiz a Disappointment..
Even tho' he's a Big Yin...in winnin' Heiders..
he's saft as... Vaseline Ointment!
We wur impressed... and da Three Coaches, too...
Wi' Big Chris Killen ,when he came intae oor view.
We Noticed somethin' dat has escaped maist o' oor Fans...Big Chris CAN DRIBBLE!!!!!!! an' CLEVERLY... BEAT HIS MAN!
Da mair we watched him, da mair we wur impressed...
If we Keep him in da Team...
WE BELIEVE, OOR BIG STRIKER PROBLEM, WID BE ADDRESSED!!!!
Da shame is, we hiv tae wait fur almost Three Mair Weeks...
Tae see if Gordon his goat da Message....An realises...
Dat Big CHRIS IS DA STRIKER, dat HE SEEKS!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
Howdya like oor Aiden?
He ran awe night... wi' nae sign o' Fadin'!
Ye called it richt.. da ither day...
When ye wrote dat Doopee's Technique...HIZ A MADE A DIFFERENCE.... an' is here tae stay!
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Paul,
That tension you so eloquently talk about is something I have suffered for 50 years and counting, especially when we play our soo side neighbours. I used to just enjoy the European games; maybe because we were so good. Not so now. I find it agonising. I'm sitting here listening to Radio 3 trying to relax and praying that Barca score 7 (and can't bear to listen to it in case they score even 1: sad, I know only too well but there you are).
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Hail,hail
We'll be hearing that some Barcelona players blessed themselves next.
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aye, hes having a great season bhoysfour. how good is iniesta (sp) ronhaldino on the other hand, show pony. rangers are playing well, more forward thinking than i thought they would play.
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hamptontim
latest from chick young
gers fans well behaved and not taking the bait
hmmmm.
here is the first goal
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Watching Barca v Them. There's a big Irish tricolour with "CELTIC" printed across it, draped over the wall about 10 yards to the left of McGregor's goal as we look.
Go Barca,
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test.
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3-1 Lyon.
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2 - 0 Messi.
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2-0 Leo Messi bhoy
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2-0 Barca - shades of Brazil
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2-0
yasss
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2 nil, messi
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2-0.lovely
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Huns have now lost more goals within 45 mins at the Camp Nou than we did in our last 2 games there.
UnbeatenAtCampNou CSC
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Pfft
That was Messi
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MESSI TIDIES UP
(copyright Hugh)
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Wonder what tactical genius Wattie is going to pull out of the hat - maybe his white gloves and a flute.
Incidentally, Liverpool were only beating Besiktas 2-0 at halftime last night - keep the faith!
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Nice one Tully. When I get a minute I'll deal with that revisionist nonsense our dear pal WG posted earlier.
McGrain
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HT - Barca 2-0 : Lyon 3-1
If it stays the same, Rangers will be on 7 and Lyon 6 with Lyon still to come to Ibrox.
Squeqky bum time for the bears methinks.
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Tee hee, the Huns are getting a total pumping. You get the feeling Barca aren't even in second gear.
Where is the "world class" Barry Fergushun? Is he on the bench?
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McAllister now says Barce's first goal shouldn't have stood after saying in commentary that it was a good goal.
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how Jim White gets a job doing *anything* is a complete mystery to me, never mind a job like a Sky anchor.
"Gary, just how good are Barcelona..?"
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Did you hear the Celtic chants about 20 minutes in?
It must have been ghosts.
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Good stuff McGrain.
Sent you a mail for translation and to Noel to post link due to my lacking in blogging skills.
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chennnaiseabird - heard that myself "celtic celtic celtic" class
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Harry's hoody,
What did "Gary" say?
Very?
Very very?
or,
Very, very, very?
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Can anyone confirm if the Barca fans were singing The Fields of Athenrye about half way thru the 1st half ?
Rangers about to bust a 47 yr old Scottish record. I´m sure Riikjaard is in their chastising La Porta in front of his players knowing that wee Nacho is about to be brought on and why didn´t he buy him when requested ?
3.1 Lyon I fear Vfb are guff
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heard it all now
on raio clyde (i know,serves me right) BFD and peter maguire have stated that barry ferguson would get a game in the Barcelona midfield.
honest
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Thick Young “ A rangers fan is being arrested, well I assume he is a rangers fan as he is wearing a rangers top” !!!
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david begg radio scotland
'barca front three are the best in the world
including any national side'
the man was bereft as the second goal went in
utterly devastated
awe diddums
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Smelltheglove,
Barca won't get into a bidding war with Real Madrid for the Bazmeister. He'll sign for us in January.
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barca denied a pen
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15:44, Boltonbhoy
In that situation Benfica would go through because of goal difference. They also have a better goal difference.
Hey! the scenario will not happen and I'm prepared to give big odds to anyone who thinks that if Celtic beat Shaktar by 3 goals and will not progress.
Hope you're well.
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Alrite lads
The high from last night being topped up nicely by the Barca performance, hopefully they won't play keep ball and expose them good and proper by adding a couple more. The goals are there if they want it.
I thought I'd mention also the display from the upper tier of the Celtic End last night. Looked absolute class inside the stadium, but even better when watching the game again earlier tonight. A Continental feel has developed I feel at Celtic Park on CL nights thanks to the addition of some great banners. Alongside the 'Welcome To Paradise' banner it was stunning.
Hats off to the bhoys who organised that display!
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3-2 Stuttgart get a goal back.
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I hate Bull fighting.
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Stuttgart miss penalty.
Still 3-2.
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Paul67.
I know how you feel,the game drained me,my nerves are shattered.
I'm still disillusioned by some so called Celtic Supporters,what joy do they get by booing Celtic.
Firstly I,d like to congratulate Aiden on an outstanding performance,thats what a lot of supporters have been waiting on,maybe we are starting to see the real Aiden on the park,everyone knew he had it in him but that probably was his most outanding game so far,it's like a new player for Celtic this season.
All the players put in a shift last night,and all deserve the plaudits they are getting to-day.
What a difference a goal makes,about 40mins in, the grumbling was starting to get louder,and if Aiden had'nt scored that goal just before the break it would have been hell the 2nd half,from grumblings to smiles in a couple of seconds is a marvalous cure for malaise,Celtic should learn from this and get a goal in the first couple of minutes to cheer up the malcontents in our support,although I think it would have to be a miracle cure to cheer up some of our support.
How's Scott Brown,I thought his leg was broken after that tackle,it was good to see him get up and stay on the park for a couple of minutes,hopefully it's not as bad as I first thought.
Well Paul, that was a good week for the Celts,beating killie, was a result in itsef but to get the result against Benfica was the icing on the cake, and I'm now looking forward to the rest of the season.
Nice to see Brian Quinn getting the ovation he deseved by the support,is this the start of a new agenda or is it going to be much of the same in the boardroom.
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I meant to mention earlier, had to laugh at another classic from McAllister. On 33 minutes he said something along the lines of, 'This is great if Rangers keep it tight the white hankies will soon be out!' Does he not realise that it is when the fans want a manager out or are letting the team know how unhappy they are at the result/performance. I doubt the white hankies will be out in this match!
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Novo at last gets his chance to impress the Spain manager!
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Pep Moratalla: "Rangers are clearly conscious of their inferiority. You can tell because they're not even pressing with the same intensity now.
"Barcelona are able to take their foot right off the gas and think about the game at the weekend."
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i cannot belive that it is only 2 nil!! never seen such a 1 sided game in a loooong time. dont even think the barca keeper has had a by kick to take !
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Chick Young on Radio Scotland reporting the riot police have had to wade into the Rangers Support on quite a few occasions.
Ban coming up methinks.
moralhighgroundnowCSC.
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He's right you know, El Messi. Rangers do play football like your auntie. Not the one who's always telling you to get out into the fresh air and enjoys a wee sherry, the one who's always telling you to shut the doors, and everything else, to keep oot the drafts.
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Porridge
You're right. The white hankies come out if the crowd are very unhappy.
But they also come out in appreciation of a moment of great individual skill. It's a bullfighting thing. That's how the crowd let the panel of judges know that the matador deserves to cut off one of the bull's ears as a nice wee souvenir (like the match-ball in football when you score a hat-trick).
Sometimes he gets both ears.
For an exceptional performance, he can get both ears and the tail.
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can hear 'we ara peepul' now....
It'd make you weep.
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Bojan about to come on.
Well worth watching this wee laddie.
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noel,
chick must be at a different game than Sky. their commentator has just said 'There are Rangers fans dotted all over the place, all enjoying being part of such a happy atmosphere'!
They've definitely taken the foot right off the gas, and who can blame them. Hopefull the subs are hungry to impress!
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http://celticfc.co.uk/news/stories/news_071107153019.aspx
A nice result for the reserves with a number of players getting a run out. Balde and Pressley seemed like they were comfortable in defence. Goals for Sno and Zurawski and a welcome return from injury for Caddis.
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Pep Moratalla by the way is an ex-Barça player who now summaries on Radio Nacional de España.
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celtic first
thanks for that mate, this blog never fails to teach me something new every day!
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Paul67,
perhaps your readers will be able to help me with my query. A friend and neighbour suggests that a Caledonian team once, nay twice, drew with the great Barcelona team in the Nou Camp ? The same wag suggests that this was achieved without Barry Ferguson ! Am I having the proverbial taken out of me ?
Yours perplexed,
Malceye
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Barça goalie Victor Valdés gets his hands warm for the first time in the second half. He saves D'Archeville's free kick effort.
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Pfayr, comment deleted, language violation.
Zbysek, thanks for that info on Fernandinho
Collie, I agree, Chris deserves a chance.
I hear today that we are planning to extend DuPont’s supporting staff.
Porridgeand… the Jungle Bhoys know what they are doing; any time they organise something for us it is done well.
Oldtim67, agree, it was a really nice moment when Brian Quinn got his ovation.
Malceye, your friend is surely wrong. If the European Champions elect cannot avoid defeat there, no Scottish team can. Your friend, and the people of Dundee, are clearly delusional.
How many chances are Cara going to miss tonight?
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2 - 0 final score. Barce got what they wanted and settled for it rather than going for a goalfest, unfortunately. Pity they decided not to get out of second gear.
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methinks if the rangers stormtroppers erm fans detonated a nuclear bomb radio scotland would report them adding to the party atmos with fireworks they have shown themselves up in barcelona again and trouble in the ground with riot police having to go in but of course almost being spun as barca fans fault and the polices as well! surley surley uefa will take action against their recreation of 72 4-2 lyon
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Good save from Víctor Valdés from Nacho Novo at the very end.
Lyon 4-2 Stuttgart (latest).
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WG, my amhigo viejo, that's some political gymnastics you've done there with your ‘Huns as supporters of Catalan separatism’ argument and CF you should know better than to humour WG on his odd perspective on Spain. It did make me laugh but then you know WG I think you're one of the funniest guys it has been my unequivocal pleasure to befriend.
I don’t want this to be a debate about the Spanish Civil War mostly because this is a Celtic website and also because I guess few here (myself included) are actually qualified to debate the matter with much authority. However, let's be clear about what Catalonia was more than anything else during and after the Civil War. It was first and foremost a separatist region/nation much much more than one of communism, of anarchism or of anti-clericalism. The anti-clericalism WG refers to was as much a Spanish republicanism phenomenon rather peculiarly Catalan. Catalans are not nor have they been particularly left of centre, and indeed two of the most evident symbols of Catalonia are la Sagrada Familia and the Virgen Negra de Montserrat.
Catalonia by virtue of (amongst other factors) geographical location i.e. NE corner, became the last stand of that very uneasy Republican alliance of leftists, separatists and libertarians and therefore the scene of some of the worst atrocities of the Civil War by both advancing nationalists and retreating Republicans, i.e. retreating from across the entire peninsula.
What they are is Catalan, and therefore not Spanish. It’s a feeling thing as much as you and I might feel not English (or French for that matter) by virtue of our Irish and/or Scottish history, language, ancestry and culture, and that is why so many Celtic supporters feel a solidarity with Barça fans.
Now as for this idea that the Huns were being deliciously ironic not to mention politically astute is just too much for me. And as for solidarity…oh purlease!
This banner if it exists was at the wind up. ‘Catalonia is Spain’ means one thing; it is part of Spain. No right-minded Barça fan would interpret it as anything else.
WG, you attempt to interpret it so because it satisfies your peculiar support for Real Madrid. In this situation it is you that stands side-by-side with your dreaded darnelist foes; strange bedfellows indeed.
Love always, way doon the centro social to celebrate.
McGrain
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A stout defence from Radio Scotland after that game at the Camp Nou. `Rangers looked really compact, knew what they were doing... no way was that an embarrassment`- Craig Paterson.
Poor Rangers` fans were taunted with the flag of a friendly nation. :-)
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does Jim White actually have a brain???
He's just asked Gary again.. "just how good are Barca"
Cringeworthy doesn't get close.
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At 07/11/07 21:08, porridgeandbananas said…I meant to mention earlier, had to laugh at another classic from McAllister. On 33 minutes he said something along the lines of, 'This is great if Rangers keep it tight the white hankies will soon be out!'
The Barca crowd were whistling & jeering at this point - poor McAllister didn't realise that the jeers were aimed directly at FC Anti-Football.
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From Elmundo.es
can anybody translate.......
Una cosa es venir a defenderse y otra lo que ha hecho el Glasgow Rangers con 1-0 y con 2-0. Por lo visto, se irán contentos de vuelta con una derrota 'digna'.
please tell me "digna" is Catalan for dignity
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TheGreenTrumpet
To be fair he did say that they had been demoralised tonight.I thought that was a worthy adjective.
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Monteblanco
It says: "It's one thing to come and be defensive, but it's another thing altogether to do what Glasgow Rangers did tonight, [continuing so defensively] at 1-0 and 2-0. It looks as though they're happy to have gone away with a 'dignified' or 'worthy' defeat."
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CF
If I could speak Catalan, that's exactly what I would have said:)
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Nelsbhoy: I can think of another couple of adjectives for them...
...but enough about them. Not been on here since last night's performance (I stupidly decided to watch the itv highlights package when I got in after the game - gee, thanks for that full 5mins footage of our match, after watching 25mins of Liverpool shooting fish in a barrell).
Got to say well done to all of the Bhoys. It's superfluous of me to comment further on Mr McGeady, as it has been well covered here and elsewhere, so I'd just like to congratulate the rest of our team, and our manager.
Paul Hartley, Scott Brown, Scott McDonald and Artur Boruc were excellent. Our two (much maligned) full backs stuck to their tasks brilliantly, and our two young international CB's got another 90mins of Champs League experience, and another clean sheet under their belts (not enough to stop the usual suspects to come on here, and start requesting the signing of Sami Hyppia yet-a-bleedin-gain! Please give it a rest lads, you're like broken records).
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I noticed wee Novo sprinted almost half the length off the park at the end , blatantly passing at least one Barca player and not shaking hands with any of them.
That would presumably be unsporting behaviour to be analysed at length in the Press.
But perhaps not as he supports Real Madrid , their bitter rivals , although he doesnt actually play for them.
He obviously DOESNT LIKE THEM and so is justified in not shaking their hands.
I think thats alright then isnt it?
Surely no-one can be criticised for that?
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Lads thru work today I had the pleasure of talking to an ex Celt,although of many a long year.
I was interested to hear from him that he was "shocked" at what he called the defensive shambles of the first half.
I still think that there was too much ball watching and not enough player watching.
As our manager said post match we need to stop the quick long ball from the back.Take a couple of passes he said.
McGeady is 90% a World class player and if we could start defending properly, he along with the other young pretenders could make us real contenders.
Defend well and let your special players win you the game.
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Back to us
I thought we were terrific , especially second half, last night.
Hard to see past Aiden for man of the match but Paul Hartley was just fantastic -- easily his best performance for us IMO. Played like Lenny with a bit more pace , to say the least -- he was everywhere he needed to be in midfield and defence.
I thought WGS might have a wee veiled dig at Riordan in the Herald today when he talked about how hard Aiden had been training in the gym and went on to say how it was funny but the same guys he sees in the gym seem to be the ones in the first team.
Deeks not applying himself anough for WGS?? , arguably one of the most dedicated and self disciplined players of recent (ish) years
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Gree Trumpet,
We done brilliant last night. I'm overjoyed. However, let's be serious here. Our defence is not good enough plain and simple. Come January it has to be sorted.
Don't forget Artur pulled off a couple of crackin saves at 0 0. First 20 mins Benfica gave Mick and JK the run around.
Having a steady a good goalkepper in this competition is saving Celtic. You'd be staring down the barrel of a gun if it was Douglas and the defence at present.
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Between last night and home to Aberdeen on the 24th, 18 days, we have no games. In the 21 days following we have 7. Famine and feast or what.
My 'it's boring with nae fitba' stats have begun.
From last night's programme:
Which is the only team to face Celtic in a European match while fielding two European Players of the Year?
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According to reports in todays papers,the 'Spanish Armada' of huns was 20k strong. BFD on RC said there were 22.5k in the stadium. Where were they?? If there was the official 5k stuck up in the heavens out of view where the away fans are normally seated, that means there were approx 15k sitting in seats around the stadium. I myself spotted 2 orcs behing the lhs goal.
Anyone else spot any?
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If anyone in the U.S. want to watch the Barca match ESPN Classic are replaying the game now. Its just coming to the end of the first half.
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Bloke 109,
that is one of the questions that I got right! :-)
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We need a full back. Lets not get carried away.
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ian
Fair play to you - I thought it was a tricky one.
Champions League experience.
Our current team - not many.
Neil Lennon 26.
David Beckham 109.
We have conceded 8 penalties in the group stages.
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WGS: I saw a couple of cracking saves from Artur - thank goodness he's there. (Oh, and by the way, please don't mention Rab Douglas without prior warning, you gave me a 'Nam style flashback!)
I just can't see the other WGS (if you know what I mean...) going out and buying CB's in January. He strikes me as the type of manager who revels in bringing the young guys on and developing them, and is going to continue to give them every opportunity - even at CL level. There was a lot of talk in the run up to the Benfica game about the average of the team, and how if the team stuck together they could only improve...
Now, I'd be very disappointed if he didn't strengthen at full back, that's an area where we are really struggling to fill the positions.
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Lots of talk in Barcelona tonight of anger among the locals that the police and city authorities are turning a blind eye to the behaviour of their visitors this week.
"We would get fined for walking in the cycle lane," one local said. "How can these people get away with this level of incivility?"
There have been concrete complaints about the lack of respect (in the form of urine) for the statue of Francesc Maçià and someone made the point that if Real Madrid fans came to town and did the same thing there would be a full-scale riot.
Also, someone said: "I've just seen a drunken Glasgow Rangers fan relieving himself in the doorway of a church in the Carrer Casanova. Local people could not believe it, but a police car went past and nothing happened.
"Where are these people from? And why do we keep paying for a police force if all it does is language violation citizens?"
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Delia - What is the rangers clubs overall away record in the CL?
Andycolo 13:11 - did u really have to inflict that on us? By the way was that Edward in the middle of the pics?
DBBIA - "More than a club" Classic. Shame about the top of the table clash with Forest.
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Rooney and Tevez.
If there is an uglier strike partnership in world football, I don't want to see them.
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Thomas McLaughlin
CQN charity fives.
mind you the spectators were no boyband.
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Evening.
Bloke 109 AC Milan. Kaka and Maldini?
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:-( :-(
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gl2
I'm going by programme only so apologies if there's more:
Dynamo Kyiv, 1986-87, Igor Belanov and Oleg Blokhin.
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Ed ive not been on for a while and i thought I had broke the blog... I never saw the game tonight just what ive read on different web pages and heard on the radio it sounded as if you were happy to get away with a 2-0 defeat.
Is that the way it was?
I said a few weeks ago I could not see you getting another point in your group then you drew with Barcelona, I now see you going through in second as you will get the required in Germany. I'll be truthful and say I hope im wrong.
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Bloke I was guessing and after I put it in I was thinking was Kaka european player of the year before the ties last year as Maldini did not play against us this season I think.
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In League games it's Rangers with Hutton and Sebo of course.
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Blimey, Starsky and Hutch have let themselves go
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Friends in high places.
Nice touch from Barca fans with Celtic banners behind both goals.
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Homer Simpson is an Artur Fan
goodnight
hail hail
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Is Puyol a poor man Gary Caldwell?
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GreenLion2 :- I can't say I'm happy at a 2 - 0 score but I can't say it wasn't deserved or to be honest expected I had hoped forone point from Barca and we got one so unhappy tonight but still quite pleased at how it's going.
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Old Firm still fail to record a win against Barca in Camp Nou!
Cetic First - I make no defence of the Darnel hordes, however I don't think the good citizens of Barcelona should be too smug - if you escape the Ramblas with your wallet intact your very lucky
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Excellent game all around. After the first 20 minutes, I thought our defence was actually quite tight. Both Naylor and Caldwell had good games. JK is improving, regaining his abilities. He and McManus are the natural 1st choice pairing with O'Dea ready on the bench. However, JK and McManus do seem to have a communication problem, which they have to sort out sooner in any given game. This is strange given that they have known each other for some time. Anyone care to comment? Once they get this sorted out I think we will be tight (in the center). Our midfield, at times had problems building and linking. I think SB needs some coaching or fine tuning - he needs to shift out of the full-speed-ahead gear and work on keeping possession. I only mention this recognizing he does have great potential and does an excellent job otherwise. JVoH, missing in action and sorely lacking pace. Donati did really well when he came on. He needs time to settle - telling he mentioned about missing the banter, e.g. language problems etc. Hopefully he adapts and realizes his full potential.
It won't take much tweaking to have a fully purring Team 3 engine. However, would like to see some areas addressed in the January transfer window - we need JJPD back at full strength or a solid RB, LB cover and someone to replace JVoH as the 'marquee' partner for SMcD.
Mon The Hoops!
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Gooood Evening CQN.
Well - just back from 2 day business trip WITHOUT tinternet.
Just finished watching last night's game. Pure brill.
Pity Barca didn't score a dozen tonight.
I'm away to watch tonight's goals on Fox Socca channel.
Back later.
TLBpurechuffedCFC
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Some things never change.....
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Morning all -
Gordon J -
Gary McAllister - darnelist and part of their SFA/media charm offensive
Harry's Hoody -
yes, Jim White is indeed ' a sky anchor'
WGS -
Douglas ? Must you ?
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My beloved McGrain -
I don't think I have a perspective on Spain, never mind an 'odd' one. I could not perform a physical gymnastic never mind a 'political' one. I don't care about Barcelona or Catalonia although I think their team let the darnel off the hook big time. You have uncunningly managed to transfer the thoughts of some darnelists as being the thoughts of WG. Not so amhigo.
LOVE always
WG
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and now if I may post my point ....
And so it turns out as they feared. Celtic on the up, Rangers on the down, Celtic scheduled to meet Falkirk at home, Rangers due to play their derby match away from home. Let's postpone these games for the good of Scottish fitba.
An utter nonsense.
WG
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Didn`t hear one iota of news today re the trouble at Nou Camp last night. Did it all go away whilst I was sleeping?
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Aye fair enough WG, being a bit hard on you but your notion of the huns aligning themselves with Barca against us and Real Madrid remains too daft for me and a bit too convenient for you.
I'm sure the citizens of Barcelona can do without this sort of 'solidarity' - I know not your word.
Anyway back to work
LOVE more than ever.
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No football 'til the 24th.
This is rubbish.What will we talk about?
Sack Duffield.
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WG is right.
The postponment of league games after Rangers's most difficult European encounter is a very smelly coincidence.
I just hope it backfires on them and their season goes into free-fall and that we have the title wrapped up before Ash Wednesday.
The main point is that if things are still quite tight in the run-in, we can be fearful of favouritism.
As we have seen in the past, sometimes it works for them (Andy Davis), sometimes it doesn't (erroneously insisting that the only date we could go to Ibrox was immediately after a European semi-final; and allowing Bobby Tait to take a bow at his favourite ground for his final refereeing performance).
However, this is a worrying early marker.
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WengerGuy
In 1905, former Celtic player Johnny William Madden became manager of Slavia Prague
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arthur lee -
good one
sellik first et al
I could see the point of a postponement if it was a Rangers v Celtic match.
After all we would not want a Scottish centre-back being stretchered off after an accidental clash of heads; a Scottish midfielder having to go off having half his teeth kicked out whilst conceding a penalty; a Scottish international striker having his leg broken in the penalty area and no penalty awarded or a Scottish international goalkeeper sustaining a head injury leading to his tragic death.
WG
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WG
You mean Celtic-Rangers match, right?
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I can see when our postponed game is to be played, but I cant find theirs! Anyone know?
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Richard
it was a pools panel result of an away win 0-8
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I've just been reading some of the stuff in the prees about the departure of the Mighty Quinn, he really has been a great guy for Celtic. He also comes across as a true gentlemen with real dignity, yes real dignity! not the cloak and Dagger establishment clap trap variety from Govan way.
When he was booed a couple of years ago, the way the Bunnet was as well sometimes makes me despair of some of our so-called supporters and there are many. Our self proclaimed "best supporters in the world " tag I must be honest has a hollow ring to it. From the treatment of Neil Lennon (Boavista) to the booing of Evander Sno against Hearts, I can honestly say some of us are as fickle and fair weather as the best of them.
After CP was reconstructed, it was apparent that as many as 50% of our home support had no idea what supporting the team is really all about and as a result I think Dermot Desmond was very close to withdrawing his investment in Celtic.
Anyway good luck and a safe and happy retirement to Brian Quinn (Celtic fan..Celtic legend)
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Sellik First -
no, all those nasty accidents that befell those Scottish internationalists happened at Megiddo.
If you think I'd put them first otherwise then you know not the man.
WG
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WG
You're stretching that point a wee bit too far, aren't you? Do you honestly think that St Mirren would have done anything against Rangers? Would you rather risk the fitness of our players? Don't forget, one of OUR main players only JUST survived a horror tackle.
It doesn't matter when we play Falkirk... We are getting better as each week goes by, and a season lasts for a whole season.
...And some of of us DO care about the fate of our national team.
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SOAL,
A think ye might be right. I have now searched every footie fixture list I know & still cant find it! Maybe rangers haven't told them when when THEY would like it played yet.
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Richard81
It's not been arranged yet! Our fixture of 11 Dec was any easy one, as that's when we WOULD have been playing our last CL game if it weren't for AC Milan having to play a week early.
I WILL concede this point to WG,.. It will be interesting to find out exactly WHEN it will be slotted in.
What's up with the midweek when we DO play AC Milan, I wonder?
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Miketw10- I discussed this with my bhoy on Tuesday-I was hoping for Scott to get a slight bruise so that he would have to pull out of the Italy game but he wanted SB to be fit to play for the Bravehearts.
Every day I am lighting a candle for the fitness of the following Celts:
Scott Mcdonald
Scott Brown
Artur Boruc
Paul Hartley
Aiden Mcgeady
John Kennedy.
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DBBIA
Same here! Except I only light a metaphorical candle! I'm with your laddie!
BTW, I'm up gigging in your neck of the woods on Saturday. Melrose of all places. This will be the 3rd time in less than a year!
Coming up tonight though, my uncle's getting buried tomorrow.
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Killerheels
You make some good points, but allow me to point out that the 'greatest support in the world' honours are not self-proclaimed, a description often applied to the tag by people who plainly don't like Celtic very much.
WG, I thought it was a slip of the keyboard, no more. I wasn't accusing you of turning into a big Rangers man.
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Miketw10, I see what your saying and as you say it will be interesting to see when the decide to play it , but I must admit ma paranoias twitching.
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Melrose is a hotbed of Skynyrdophilia.
Finishing your set with a rousing rendition of 'Freebird' will bring the house down.
Sorry to hear about your uncle. Is he being interred in Monklands? That's where my dads relatives are buried;Baillieston being the ancestral home.
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miketw10 -
I don't see why not.
I'd always pick saints to triumph over evil. Evil has also been gash away from home of late.
I don't think the Scottish national team has much to do with this postponement I'm afraid. This is my very point.
Sellik First
Ad te absolvo.
WG
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DBBIA
I'm afraid we'll be finishing with a rousing rendition of Stayin' Alive... Which is about as much as some of the 'inmates' can do there. The Waverley Castle is more like a retirement home than a hotel.
My uncle lived in Muirhead, but I'm not sure where his funeral will be. Apparently his death was unexpected, although he was a good age. He was a long-standing member of the KSC at Moodiesburn, so I'm pretty sure, that's where we'll end up. Haven't been in that place since the late 70's.
All of my dad's family were from the Glenboig area. He himself was cremated near Baillieston... Daldowie, is it?
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WG
As regards the Saints... Here's hoping, but I still think you're deluding yourself regarding the postponements.
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At 08/11/07 10:31, The Spirit of Arthur Lee said…
WengerGuy
In 1905, former Celtic player Johnny William Madden became manager of Slavia Prague
*that'll be Johnny Madden, the first in a line of great Celtic strikers, from Dumbarton.
Here's a wee bit of useless trivia, former chairman Jack McGinn's wife was related to Johnny who's buried in Dumbarton close to the Bellsmyre gate.
TT who likes tae trawl through graveyards.
BTW thought last night's gamew as woefull, sand dancers against school boys.
It was a case of shutting up shop for fear of Barca doing an Arse or Manure.
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They[evil] get sick on the bus, I think it's their diet of sulphurous mud and Monster Munch that does it. And they start to pine for Minas Morgul, just after the bus has driven past the'Grand Old Opry'.
So they're a homesick, travel sick sorry looking bunch of Luciferians by the time they reach the outskirts of G51. If you look closely at the road after they've driven past there's a mark on the surface where a dribble of devil-sick has melted the asphalt.
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off now for some steak pie
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miketw10 -
I delude masel daily and I have no delusions about that. However I do not trust the SFA or SPL one iota.
Once mauled twice shy.
WG
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So it's "Asphalt" in deepest, darkest D & G is it ???!!!!
An here wis me thinkin' it wis "tor"..... :o)))
pablophanque
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Pablo- since the 1970s, with the replacement of town gas by natural gas, asphalt has overtaken the use of tar as a binder for road aggregates.
However, the road surface of the future,even in D and G, will be bound together with non-petroleum vegetable waste derived asphalt.
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PS and far from being deep and dark it's quite sunny today.
Speak to you later!
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WG
Neither do I...
I just don't think they're clever enough to come up with an evil scheme like that! (Inserts pinkie in mouth like Dr Evil in Austin Powers) I honestly don't!
Just like our refs (bless them), I think they're more stupid than malicious!
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new article posted.
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Just noticed!
Awful quiet on here of late! Where are all the usual doom-mongers? Especially after a great midweek result!
Maybe they're all on their way back from Spain?? 80)??
(In the spirit of Mon 5th, lights blue touch paper and stands well back...)
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A few words from our departing Chairman:
"Outgoing chairman Brian Quinn says he is leaving Celtic in safe hands after hailing manager Gordon Strachan as one of the world's top coaches.
"It's very important Gordon remains," said Quinn.
"Gordon's style irritates some people - he's a wee bit idiosyncratic - but there is no better coach in football.
"He leaves the financial side to Peter Lawwell. It's a great division of responsibilities. The best two signings I've ever made? I'd say so."
On the rearranging of this week's fixtures: logic would suggest that the St Mirren - Rangers game be played on 4/ 5 December or 18/ 19 December as neither side has a midweek fixture. Interesting that no decision has been made as yet.
But I'm sure they won't want to leave it until after the 2 January meeting at Celtic Park. We are currently three points clear and if we have played an extra game could be going into the match at least 6 points ahead.
