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Thursday, February 07, 2008
Celtic could test if SPL favor Rangers

Celtic are soon scheduled to play three games in six days, Inverness at home, Hibernian away and the Champions League game away to Barcelona.

If they request a postponement of the Hibs game to allow them to prepare for their Champions League knock out tie (just as Rangers requested a postponement of their Gretna game in an earlier round), the SPL will face an interesting test of their even handedness.

Celtic are two games behind where they should be in the league programme, but with the postponed Motherwell game now taking place on 15 March, there is only one game left to rearrange, against Rangers, who are likely to be unavailable until late March.

We have no game on the midweeks of 11/12 March and 18/19 March, allowing time to reschedule the Hibs game and to play a potential Scottish Cup replay if the Aberdeen game on 8 March ends in a draw.

As the schedule sits at the moment, there is no way Celtic will be at their freshest at the Nou Camp. If we are taking this game seriously, and 10,000 of appear to be taking it seriously enough to travel, we must request a postponement of the Hibs game.

We would then find out if there is one rule for Celtic and a different rule for others.

Posted by Paul67 at 12:42 PM :: 

303 Comments:
  • At 07/02/08 12:43, Blogger Mort said…

    were they reading the blog last night...

    EPL tries to steal our idea

     
  • At 07/02/08 12:44, Blogger Mort said…

    oh and first!

     
  • At 07/02/08 12:44, Blogger TheLeftWinger said…

    Favor?

    Are we in America?

     
  • At 07/02/08 12:47, Blogger Mort said…

    As well as the SPL agreeing to it, Hibs would also have to agree to any postponement.

     
  • At 07/02/08 12:47, Blogger Paul67 said…

    TheLeftWinger, Autocorrect got me. Sitting at a new PC with US keyboard settings! *!*!

     
  • At 07/02/08 12:48, Blogger Thom The Thim said…

    You did it again, Paul, but you don't get away that easily.


    My favourite Celtic Biographies are,

    Willie Maley's Story of the Celtic, which was a gift from my grandfather to my father in 1939.

    Jimmy Mc.Grory's, lifetime in Paradise, which I was lucky enough to have signed by himself.

    Ronnie Simpson's ,A Grand Old Team to Play For. Had a good night's craic with Ronnie and his mates with our belies pressed against Sharkey's Bar in Annagry.

    On Sipper Ally's spying trip to Windsor last night, BBc Norn Irn gave it as looking at Laff, but I reckon it was to see their loan signing Davis, who played the second half. He looked a bit small and lightweight to me

     
  • At 07/02/08 12:49, Blogger St-Gris said…

    Absolutely - Dilemma is though - Do we wait until 5 o clock on the Friday or ask now so we can see them squirm for weeks.

     
  • At 07/02/08 12:52, Blogger Thom The Thim said…

    * Spelling correction: Belies =bellies.
    Much the same but bellies are bigger.

     
  • At 07/02/08 12:52, Blogger Parkheadcumsalford said…

    While I do think we should press for a postponement of the Hibs game, I am more concerned about how we conduct ourselves in Barcelona. There is no room for complacency. We should listen carefully to the likes of Celtic-First, who sounds to me as if he has lived in Spain. He knows what is and is not acceptable behaviour. We know all too well that the old media will be hoping against hope that they can splurge damning headlines about us. Enjoy yourselves, lhads but caw canny.

     
  • At 07/02/08 12:57, Blogger greenlion2 said…

    Stevie S best news on the blog. Brilliant.

    BBJ your goal at anfield will live with me forever especially since it came a few days after a big dissapointment... and thanks for the picture.

    Anyone looking for books I think you cna still find last years CQN picks for the holidays by clicking on my name and this leads you into them through my blog.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:00, Blogger lurgan53 said…

    First time poster.
    Just checking its working.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:01, Blogger Paul67 said…

    jimtim, Curly, mail back to you.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:05, Blogger Kilbowie Kelt said…

    Celtic must ask for this postponement, the sooner the better, & it is difficult to see how it could be refused. Hibs' response would indeed be interesting.
    Just re-read Estadios' excellent poem from the previous thread.
    Thoroughly enjoyed.
    Thank you.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:07, Blogger Rob said…

    I see the game against Dun Utd has been postponed for the CIS cup. Can we not play Motherwell then as their game with the Huns is also postponed ?.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:14, Blogger BlantyreKev said…

    Sorry Paul, can't agree

    1. Factually.
    We have 2 games to rearrange beyond the Motherwell game. Rangers and Dundee United (that has been vacated because of their involvement in the cup final and allows us to play Motherwell)

    That leaves jsut one potential free midweek and that would disappear with a replay.

    2. Other considerations
    Hibs have schedule problems of their own that depend on Rangers progression in the Uefa cup. If Rangers progress then the Scottish Cup QF weekend will have to accommodate their 5th round replay tie with Rangers and the QF with St Johnstone or Partick reverts to the mideweek, ruling it out as a potential date for the Celtic-Hibs game should Hibs progress.

    3. Circumstance
    The postponement of Rangers game with Lyon came at a time of no fixture congestion in Scotland. Rangers have added to it and it would only be right that the SPL learn from, and admit to, the mistake and refuse under the current conditions.

    4.Hibs
    It's not a shoey in that they would agree (nor would I) since there is more matchday income generated on a weekend. Though clearly we could test the SPL's willingness to put it to Hibs at all.

    Sorry mate, this one, for me, falsely puts the SPL under pressure. Choose the moment. I don't think this is it. Too easy for them to shout and contend paranoia, undermining the case in general.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:16, Blogger danny said…

    I believe it is wrong to ask for postponements, should we ask before every CL game ?

    Gretna were too small to refuse Rangers, Hibs will probably tell us where to go.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:27, Blogger Stuart said…

    I'm totally against this. I think the main benefit would be tweaking the nose of the SPL, which may be fun, but is unlikely to benefit us down the line.

    Rangers scored a huge own goal when they postponed their Gretna fixture. It did them no good against Lyon, and now they'll probably have to play on a Tuesday and a Thursday some week to catch up. Deferring fixtures demeans a league that really doesn't need demeaning any further. Who's going to sponsor the 'unless we get a better offer' SPL? Why would Setanta invest more if they're continually screwed around?

    We are Celtic. We're better than this, we have a big strong squad of hungry young players. They don't need this artificial pamperring. Can you see Barca requesting a La Liga postponement before we arrive? Who do you want to be like; Barcelona, or Rangers?

    Incidentally, the real solution is to have less league games. The fixture calander should not contain weeknight matches before the start of the season. Let's keep weeknights for Europe, cup replays and (unavoidably) rearranged fixtures.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:28, Blogger Estadio said…

    BlantyreK,

    I was just coming to the same conclusions when I was unfortunately distracted by the news that the Japanese are planning to launch an origami plane from the spacestation, towards earth.

    It is in attempt to develop lightweight travel capability in space.

    The problem seems to be that since the earth is 70% covered in water, they can't be sure of retrieving it all never mind if it alights on land! I suppose it is a bit like launching one in the class at Helen Rafferty, but finding that a gust of wind from Paul Wladysiuk's backside has diverted up Miss O'Donnel's cloak! (Not an entirely unpleasant sensation if I remember the slight whimper and puckering of the lips correctly)!!

    Anyway, they've decided to put a return address on it in multiple languages stating 'if you find this then please return to Japan'.

    If they can make this work, I think that you should work with them in solving the fixture 'problem'.

    I wonder if they are going to try and bend the nose a little to make it look like Concorde?

    BTW another site is reporting that I am about to be stung for £55 for the Barca away game. Anyone else got prior info?

    Hail Hail

    Estadio

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:28, Blogger thismancraig said…

    This has the look of another hammer blow in our chances of competing with the smaller, richer teams in the EPL

    EPL

    or is it?

    Anyway, lots of great John Hartson memories - to much mirth I always said he was the best finisher at the club!!!!! Loved his finish at Celtic Park against Rangers from the Chris Sutton knock out but the high point has to be the sheer elation of his goal at Anfield.

    He lived the dream!

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:29, Blogger BHOYSFOUR said…

    Can't see a postponement Paul, reasons summed up in BlantyreKev's 3rd point.

    In future it might be better if the SPL look at a lighter schedule in and around Champion's League dates.

    BBJ Good Luck with your retirement, you served the cause well and you were a delight to watch against the Huns.YNWA

    BF

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:30, Blogger Celtic_First said…

    Rimtimtim

    I posted an answer to you on the last thread.

    My thoughts on the postponement stuff is that we should play. If we use the squad well, we should avoid fatigue.

    Contact injuries can happen any time, in training or wherever. Santiago Cañizares and David Batty are just two that missed out on major international tournaments because of accidents in the home: one with a bottle of eau de toilette, the other with a wean.

    The eau de toilette one wasn't David Batty.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:31, Blogger Mort said…

    Estadio

    I got an email from Thomas Cook this morning offereing a trip to Barcelona from Belfast which included a ticket for £55.

    Not sure if this is face value or Thomas Cook taking a little commission.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:37, Blogger BHOYSFOUR said…

    TMC,
    according to Big John it is not the mirth but the girth, "I cant even have a burger without putting on half a stone!", John Hartson.

    BF

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:38, Blogger Paul67 said…

    Welcome lurgan53.

    BlantyreKev, correct about the Dundee United game.

    Agree, we would need to wait on the outcome of Rangers – Panathinaikos game on 21 February, but if that goes to form I cannot see further problems.

    Danny, three games in six days before an away knock out match is circumstance enough for me.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:39, Blogger vclxi said…

    I think it would be better all round if we don't even ask for a postponement in the first place.

    Better still release a statement saying that we wont be asking for a postponement as we feel we have a sufficient enough squad to cope with the domestic /Euuropean schedule, in a subtle GIRUY way of course.

    vclxi

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:40, Blogger Estadio said…

    Mort,

    I've had no details yet.

    I'm travelling independently but have already got guarantee of tickets directly from Celtic.

    When they arrive I'll check price and let you know if there is a difference from TC.

    hail hail

    Estadio

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:41, Blogger Timmy7 said…

    I’m in the ‘don’t ask’ camp too. We know the benefits/risks of successful European campaigns in advance. It is up to us to have a squad in place to cope.

    Postponements are for small cash strapped clubs.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:42, Blogger dublincelt said…

    Paul..
    IF THE HUNS GET KNOCKED OUT OF UEFA CUP IN THE NEXT ROUND.. WILL THIS FREE UP MAR 11/12 FOR A POSSIBLE DATE FOR REARRANGED OLD FIM GAME.. ?

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:43, Blogger Pob said…

    Would rather see us play the extra game and have the chance to go back top of the league at ibrox.

    The SPL IS / SHOULD be the priority and 3 in a row.

    Hail Hail
    Pob

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:45, Blogger SonsOfErin said…

    This post has been removed by the author.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:46, Blogger SonsOfErin said…

    I have to agree with BlantyreKev, as the season constricts towards its end so do the opportunities for rearranged games. The SFA could easily argue (if they feel like arguing at all) that the Rangers v Gretna game was postponed at a time when the season was laid out before them. They could also quite rightly claim it would have been impossible to legislate for the cancelled games following Phil O’Donnell’s death, one of which Celtic requested and was granted. I wouldn’t want anyone trying to claim we were using such circumstances simply to prove a point.

    I don’t know why we’re still concerned about the Gretna cancellation anyway, I was happy it was given at the time and I’m even happier now.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:46, Blogger Madra Rua said…

    In an effort to expand the influence of the EPL, they are proposing to extend the season by 10 games. These matches are to be played in countries throughout the world, with individual cities bidding for the rights to stage the games.
    These are the type of business situations that would be open to us if we could break free from the narrow minded SPL.
    The future of football is definetly going to be bigger then the confines of national borders.

     
  • At 07/02/08 13:54, Blogger Kitalba said…

    Paul67:

    I agree in principal that we should, for the sake of equality, request a postponement for the Hib’s game.

    Then again a rather - big - wee part of the rebellious underdog in me, who never says please to those beneath contempt, says: bugger it, play out the fixtures as they stand, for at least against Barcelona we’ll play a real football team with a real referee; with an impartial watching world. (Who are not stupid)

    And the Celtic fans will do as they always do, irrespective of the score… celebrate the moment… celebrate the memory.

    In my most humble of opinions I do believe we have the squad to achieve.

    In my most humble opinion was … Not plagiarised from any wigged fellow.

    I think in everything we should remember one thing above all else - We are Celtic and Celtic are We.

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:06, Blogger jimtim said…

    estadio

    The problem seems to be that since the earth is 70% covered in water, they can't be sure of retrieving it all never mind if it alights on land! I suppose it is a bit like launching one in the class at Helen Rafferty, but finding that a gust of wind from Paul Wladysiuk's backside has diverted up Miss O'Donnel's cloak! (Not an entirely unpleasant sensation if I remember the slight whimper and puckering of the lips correctly)!!


    whit are you like man . lol

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:07, Blogger Fred C. Dobbs said…

    Not keen on asking for a postponement for the same reason I pointed the finger at Rankers. The sides we play against in Europe dont get league games postponed before Euro ties. Let THEM ask for special favours we should get on with it. While showing up any bias would be good, I think we will have plenty more opportunities, sadly. Also agree with xclxi a wee statement might hit the spot.

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:11, Blogger ticketyboo said…

    John Hartson.

    A proud Man
    A proud Father
    A proud Welshman
    A proud Celt

    And a fabulous guy to be in company with.
    I’ve had the pleasure to be in awe of him.

    The wee devil in me wants JR & PL to ask for the postponement

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:13, Blogger o1bhoy said…

    They might retort that our TOP Goalscorer played three away games in a week...And one really was AWAY...if he gets picked at sheepville...

    'HAPPY NEW YEAR' Chinese... Year of the 'RAT'...nominationsbelow...To all our Asian Freinds...

    o1bhoy

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:21, Blogger porridgeandbananas said…

    It would be interesting to test the water and see if having the game postponed is an option by simply asking if a posponement would be granted but not necessarily having the game put off. If permission was denied by the SPL then we would know what they're up to. If permission is granted to postpone the game then it would leave Celtic able to call the shots and decide whther or not to take up the chance of a free weekend.

    Then again, look what happened to the last Scottish team who were granted a postponement before a vital European tie.

    I personally think we shouldn't. It's all hypothetical I know, but say we get on a good run (which after Saturday looks likely) with everyone on top of their game with so much competition for places. The 11 that take the field v Hibs will be bursting a gut to make sure they are selected in Barca. A win v Hibs and our tails are up, going to the Nou Camp in confidence (assuming we got a good result at Celtic Park).

    Bring on the Spaniards by the score.... and the Scots as well!

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:24, Blogger rodow said…

    Looks like even Preston (2nd from bottom of the championship) are better then TFOD
    From the BBC website:

    Preston swoop for Polish keeper
    Preston have signed Polish international goalkeeper Grzegorz Szamotulski on a six-month contract.
    The 33-year-old was available as a free agent after finishing a six-month contract with Dundee United in January.

    Szamotulski, who has 13 caps for his country, played 23 times for the Tangerines this season after joining from Austria's Sturm Graz in July.

    He will provide cover and competition for Andrew Lonnergan and will be in the squad to face Coventry at the weekend.

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:28, Blogger porridgeandbananas said…

    I meant to add as well regarding BBJ. I haven't read through the posts but my first memory of him with us was his debut at Kilamrnock. I think Lubo or Petta got injured early on and the big man is brought on.

    2 minutes later he has absolutely demolished a Kilamrnock defender down at the corner flag right in front of us. He really should have walked but somehow escaped with a booking!

    Fantastic striker, you won't see many, if any, like him any more. he simply would have been discarded nowadays due to him not being an 'athlete'. You also won't find many who enjoyed skelping the huns as much as he did! His goal at Anfield will be remembered forever. You just wonder the difference he would have made in Seville. Mourinho for one has admitted he was terrified of the big man playing and his injury was a major factor in Porto winning the UEFA Cup.

    Enjoy your retirement big man!

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:30, Blogger BanglaBhoy said…

    Are there any members of the Dubai CSC who post on CQN?

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:30, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    Quiz time as I am bored -

    1 - who is the only player to score in a glasgow, manchester and merseyside derby.

    2 - Name the only team out of the 92 in the UK whose name starts with 5 consonants.

    No using Google

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:35, Blogger Thom The Thim said…

    I think the arguments for not applying for a postponement outweigh those for applying.

    As porridge stated, we have a strong squad who should be gut-busting to play in Barca and as has been demonstrated, having games postponed can be a bum biter.

    Perhaps as suggested, a loaded statement from PL, similar to the one he issued about the Celtic support and the city and club of Barcalona.

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:37, Blogger porridgeandbananas said…

    bazzabhoy

    Too easy. Kanchelskis and Crystal Palace.

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:43, Blogger chennaiseabird said…

    What about zzzzzRangers

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:44, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    Ok then porridgeandbananas -

    Name the only player to have won every competition he played in. Also came off the bench to score a hat trick in the European Cup Final, having sustained a leg break earlier in the season....?

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:49, Blogger porridgeandbananas said…

    bazza

    Don't have a clue mate, if I had to guess I would say Gerd Muller.

    Good Question.

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:52, Blogger porridgeandbananas said…

    This one has probably been asked before but anyway. Who is the only player to have played in the Premiership, the three other Football Leagues, the Conference, UEFA Cup and Champions League?

     
  • At 07/02/08 14:58, Blogger TheLeftWinger said…

    Bazzabhoy,

    Was it Roy of the Rovers?

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:03, Blogger Kano said…

    Evening all,just like to say I had the utmost pleasure of meeting a couple of fellow Celtic men,and posters on here.

    Good to put a couple of faces to names(although,perhaps it would have been better left to the imagination)

    Just like to say thank you to yourself Paul for making it possible.

    And thanks to the two people who made,what could have been an awkward situation,extremely enjoyable.

    Oh and by the way,tell them to stuff their postponement where the sun doesn't shine.

    Let us play our games,show them up for the idiots they are.

    The whole world will be watching.

    Can't think of a better time to show them up for what they are.

    A bunch of sad twisted people.

    And that is being kind to them.

    We have done our business before,despite their best efforts.

    And there is something a wee bit sweeter when we do it despite the difficulties they lay before us.

    In fact it is a lot sweeter.

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:04, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    TLW - YUP! Thats the one mate! Sorry.

    Ive currently got two current buns in the office going off there nut cos they dont know. Boys about to ask folk on hollow hollow.

    Porridgeandbananas - steve finnan?

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:08, Blogger TheTokenTim said…

    I'm with the other TTT in this in that I also think the arguments for not applying for a postponement outweigh those for applying.

    I also happen to be of the opinion that we should ALWAYS be bigger, better and of higher moral standards than TFOD. Therefore, we don't go begging for a postponement, but as someone before mentioned, a suitably barbed comment from the SSM, as to why we WON'T ask for postponement will get the point across nice and clear.

    BBJ,

    thanks for all those goals big man, especially all those against TFOD which you took obvious great delight in - GIRFUY if ever there were any and there were plenty- and the other big games, Anfield being right up there.
    But for me the most important one was the strike away to Celta Vigo, which guaranteed us European football after Christmas for the first time in 20 years or so. IMHO that was the foundation for our great run that season.

    HAIL! HAIL!
    TTT

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:08, Blogger Kano said…

    banglabhoy,there is an occasional poster and avid reader who goes by the name of "the Barca Mole"or TBM.

    He will sort you out for what you need to know.

    Or visit here

    They meet in Dubliners pub.

    Tinytim(among others) has sampled their hospitality,and,like him,I can assure you, it is superb.

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:13, Blogger Mort said…

    Ha Ha

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:13, Blogger Seán1916 said…

    I have to agree with the sentiments of the rest of the guys that asking for a postponement is not the way to go.
    I would love to call the spl/sfa bluff and show them up for what they are but I just feel that we are bigger and better that.
    They call us paranoid but that doesn’t mean they are not out to get us! We all know there is an undercurrent within the society and life in this country do we really, as a club need to pull a stunt like this to prove it?
    For me all it will achieve is to give the chance for the radio phone morons (no offence terry) to debate the issue for weeks and give them even more scope for using that awful term O** F*** and likening us to that lot again!
    On another note just to pick up on the points made last night. I am a Irish born Scottish raised individual who although raised in this country and speak with a Scottish accent am extremely patriotic towards my homeland. I find the level of criticism towards Aiden from anglo/scouse hacks like Ronnie Whelan appalling and an embarrassment to our proud nation. I may be wrong in this and someone can correct me if I am but is this hack even Irish?
    RantOverCSC

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:15, Blogger porridgeandbananas said…

    bazzabhoy,

    nah mate not steve finnan, i had to google when i got asked the question.

    yer a bugger with that Roy Of The Rovers question, i mind my dad catching me with that one before. I suppose I asked for it with my smart-ass reply earlier! haha.

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:19, Blogger Kano said…

    I'd also like to say a wee ta to Andy and Paul at the Perth CSC for making me(who is these days a very infrequent visitor)and our crowd extremely welcome at the game against Kilmarnock.

    And a particular thnks to Mick(who I didn't previously know)for letting us into the "secret Celtic room" and taking some pictures of four very happy people.

    Good night was had by all.

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:22, Blogger Kano said…

    This post has been removed by the author.

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:22, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    porridgeandbananas.

    I aint got a clue mate. reckon it must be a scouser though? Peter Crouch?

    Heres another (topical) one.

    Who is the only person who survived the Munich disaster who has only recently retired?

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:23, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    is it someone neil lennon also played with?

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:27, Blogger porridgeandbananas said…

    bazzabhoy

    It's actually Steve Harper of Newcastle. Seemingly he was out on loan at Clubs in the lower leagues when he was younger and played in the top competitions with Newcastle.

    I read somewhere there was an unborn baby who survived the Munich crash so I'm guessing it's him/her, though being able to retire at 49/50 would be not bad!

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:28, Blogger The Fighting Irish said…

    Good to see that the Grandmaster Bigot Number 1 has taken on his assistant choir-master (from his time at the Death Star) as new goalkeeping coach.

    I dearsay that the changing room will be full of lovely party tunes from now on.

    Well done Mr Brown and Mr Goram

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:32, Blogger Mort said…

    porridgeandbananas,

    the unborn baby was from Belgrade and Man Utd goalie Harry Gregg, who saved his mothers life, went back to Belgrade not long ago to meet him for the first time.

    I know his mother is still alive so it could be her though its more likely to be someone english?

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:32, Blogger winningemmell said…

    Two visits to Myrrh Park within eight days of March (pitch permitting) - Unholy Week.

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:38, Blogger Kano said…

    Ferenc Puskas?

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:40, Blogger Kano said…

    Is the English one John Barnes or Vinnie Jones?

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:40, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    Porridge & Mort - You are both sort of correct.

    The answer is john lukic (sp) His mother was a reporter on the plane and was keih cheggers with him at the time.

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:46, Blogger Kano said…

    Stan Mortenson for the European cup hatrick scorer?

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:50, Blogger Irving Washington said…

    Mort
    Is that a wind up in regards to the trip form Belfast to Barcelona?. Checked the thomas cook website and found tickets available from Belfast but at £245.

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:52, Blogger MVG said…

    Porridge,

    Surely Steve Guppy has to be in the all leagues including non league and CL and UEFA cup? Didn't he start with MOn at Wycombe non league, he got promoted with them went to Newcastle, Port Vale, Leicester and the tic

     
  • At 07/02/08 15:55, Blogger Celtic_First said…

    WG

    You could regard it as a kind of Stations with a ball thrown in.

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:00, Blogger Irving Washington said…

    Greenlion2

    I had a look at some of the books suggested on your blog, some good reading there. Have had 100 years of solitude recommended to me by a few friends I must get a copy, incidentally, that would also make a good title for a Cliftonville Fc centenerary publication. Can I also recommend Joseph Hellers Catch-22 for your blog, one of my favourite books and the inspiration for my posting name.

    Washington Irving CSC

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:05, Blogger VertWolf said…

    Paul

    there are a few more rounds of CL football before the final - I think we should keep our powder dry until the away semi leg

    VertWolf

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:05, Blogger Mort said…

    no wind up Irving,

    This is the page the email takes me to:

    Thomas Cook

    If you click the bottom link it will allow you to select how many people are going. I tried it for 2 sharing a double room and the price was £820 which included 2 tickets at £55 each.

    The £245 is a Day trip from Glasgow.

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:08, Blogger barcabhoy said…

    i suspect hibs would reject a request to cancel our game. we could overcome the financial loss to Hibs by compensating them, however they are chasing a top six place and probably fancy their chances a little more if our mind is on an upcoming game against barca.

    given the likely outcome of the barca tie, then i would be playing my strongest team in every spl tie between now and the end of the season

    as an aside, i watched the usa v mexico game last night. some great football from both sides and the quality of the game in the states has improved significantly

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:16, Blogger Kraljski said…

    My tribute to John Hartson.

    Today former Celtic and Arsenal striker John Hartson has announced his retirement after leaving West Brom last month.
    The 32-year-old, who won 51 caps for Wales, revealed he had lost his desire and was struggling to keep fit.

    John Hartson came to Glasgow one afternoon in the hope on that day that he would sign for Glasgow Rangers however due to unforseen medical examinations, Rangers FC Pulled the plug on any deal stating a knee injury was to show within the medical tests.

    Almost at one full year later August 2001, John Hartson was then signed by Rangers' fierciest rivals Glasgow Celtic for a fee of £6million for which was to come close to their still outstanding transfer fee paid out for Chris Sutton at £6.5million.

    John Hartson took his time to setlle into what was to become a very successful period in his career - some would say his most succesful days were at Parkhead where he would go on to pick up trophy after trophy whilst banging goal afater goal.

    " Big Bad" John would go onto to repay the " faith " shown by Rangers FC by scoring many upon many a goal against them for which John himself would gladly say was his main objective when first arriving to sign on the dotted line and to pull on the hoops.

    John scored so other many a goal whilst wearing the hoops none more memorable than in the UEFA Cup run for which Celtic would go all the way whilst finally sucumbing against the mighty FC Porto who would the year later go onto win also UEFA's prestigious Champions League trophy.

    On the run to the UEFA Cup final it was John Hartson's goals against Celta Vigo in spain for would put Celtic through on away goals - It was to be his tremedous goal against Liverpool in the 2nd leg at Anfield for which was to further highlighten what was to be a truly unforgettable night in Glasgow Celtic's european history.

    I for one will never EVER forget what John Hartson achieved and for what happiness the big man brought to us at Celtic Park.

    I will never forget his goals and I will never forget his leadership up front in what has to be classed as one of the greatest IF NOT THee greatest frontline in Celtic's long history.

    Chris Sutton, Henrik Larsson and John Hartson - What I would do for a strikeforce like that again - These 3 are TRUE CELTIC LEGENDS.

    I hope that you find your retirement to be easy John, Good luck with the family life you so very much crave and your always welcome at the home of Glasgow Celtic.

    HAIL HAIL - YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:16, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    Kano -

    The European Cup hatrick scorer was none other than....

    Roy Race of Melchester Rovers fame.

    Sorry

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:21, Blogger Gordon_J said…

    Bazzabhoy,

    I've heard the John Lukic story before - and it's an urban mith!

    Lukic wasn't born until late 1960, over two years after Munich!

    i think there was a passenger called Likic on the plane, but no relation to the former keeper.

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:25, Blogger Mort said…

    Gordon_J, BazzaBhoy,

    I think this fella Zoran Lukic is who was the unborn child aboard the plane.

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:25, Blogger ianinjesi said…

    John Lukic was born in 1960. There was an air stewardess called Lukic on the flight and some confused her with John Lukic.
    About as valid as the Ashley Giles, `King of Spain` story. :-)

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:29, Blogger Gordon_J said…

    Thanks Mort.

    Just reading some of the John Hartson stories and memories. What a guy!

    I can remember being upset when I thought they were going to sign him and delighted when we actually did.

    His goals at Anfield and against Hearts to clinch the league will be the ones I will remember most.

    Good luck in whatever comes next BBJ!

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:38, Blogger Mort said…

    Any time I have heard BBJ on the radio or on TV he comes across very intelligent and articulate and I wonder if his future career could involve broadcasting.

    Just hope that if he works in Scotland he doesn't become a Hun apologist like so many of his predecessors.

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:38, Blogger Subterranean said…

    The ad hoc decisions to postpone certain matches have done nothing but set dangerous precedents and cause fixture congestion.

    The sudden, tragic death of Phil O'Donnell is an obvious exceptional circumstance. It is also reasonable to postpone games when squads are decimated through illness.

    The governing bodies should try to ensure that teams playing in Europe on a Thursday should not play a domestic fixture until at least the following Sunday. Similarly, teams playing a domestic fixture on a Sunday should not have to play in Europe until at least the following Wednesday.

    Professional football is a squad game and success means that more games will be played and squad strength will be tested.

    Ad hoc postponements go against the spirit of the game. Football is a competitive sport. Scottish Football has no history of favouring Celtic. What we should expect is that all Scottish clubs are treated evenly and fairly ;-D

    Chris

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:53, Blogger Paul67 said…

    VertWolf, :-)

    Well said, Kraljski.

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:55, Blogger Michael__67 said…

    Mort

    There is as Much chance that John Hartson will become another media 'Hun Apologist' as Nacho Novo finally recieving that long overdue call up for the Spanish national team...

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:57, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    Ahh, I stand corrected. Thanks for settin me straight though.

    Re Roy Rovers... admit it, youse all chuckled? Bhoys on the bus nearly killed me after trying to work it out all the way to the game, back from the game and the pub after the game when I asked them.

     
  • At 07/02/08 16:59, Blogger loumacarisbettingslip said…

    did Roy Race not play for his rivals as well melchester united

    Imagine henrik and Roy Race in the same team.100 goals a season between them no probleb

    Agree we dont need to ask for a postponement,we have more class than the dark side lets use it

     
  • At 07/02/08 17:00, Blogger loumacarisbettingslip said…

    problem even ,must not post when on phone

     
  • At 07/02/08 17:05, Blogger Paul67 said…

    Kano, my pleasure.

     
  • At 07/02/08 17:13, Blogger fan-a-tic said…

    peter martin having a dig at Celtic in his column at ET.
    Says he won,t pander or tow party line so he can retain his integrity.He is hilarious!!
    Have never seen or known any newspaper or hack to feel the need to print retort on criticism of a story which was vindictive and petty at best.
    His implication that Celtic try to manipulate Scottish press is absurd at best.

     
  • At 07/02/08 17:28, Blogger half and half said…

    John Hartson you are a celtic legend! You always gave 100% for the jersey and never let football go to your head.

    You always struck me as a real intelligent, honest, genuine, hard working professional.

    You never forgot where you came from and knew how privileged you were to be a footballer and a celtic player at that.
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