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were they reading the blog last night...
EPL tries to steal our idea
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oh and first!
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Favor?
Are we in America?
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As well as the SPL agreeing to it, Hibs would also have to agree to any postponement.
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TheLeftWinger, Autocorrect got me. Sitting at a new PC with US keyboard settings! *!*!
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You did it again, Paul, but you don't get away that easily.
My favourite Celtic Biographies are,
Willie Maley's Story of the Celtic, which was a gift from my grandfather to my father in 1939.
Jimmy Mc.Grory's, lifetime in Paradise, which I was lucky enough to have signed by himself.
Ronnie Simpson's ,A Grand Old Team to Play For. Had a good night's craic with Ronnie and his mates with our belies pressed against Sharkey's Bar in Annagry.
On Sipper Ally's spying trip to Windsor last night, BBc Norn Irn gave it as looking at Laff, but I reckon it was to see their loan signing Davis, who played the second half. He looked a bit small and lightweight to me
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Absolutely - Dilemma is though - Do we wait until 5 o clock on the Friday or ask now so we can see them squirm for weeks.
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* Spelling correction: Belies =bellies.
Much the same but bellies are bigger.
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While I do think we should press for a postponement of the Hibs game, I am more concerned about how we conduct ourselves in Barcelona. There is no room for complacency. We should listen carefully to the likes of Celtic-First, who sounds to me as if he has lived in Spain. He knows what is and is not acceptable behaviour. We know all too well that the old media will be hoping against hope that they can splurge damning headlines about us. Enjoy yourselves, lhads but caw canny.
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Stevie S best news on the blog. Brilliant.
BBJ your goal at anfield will live with me forever especially since it came a few days after a big dissapointment... and thanks for the picture.
Anyone looking for books I think you cna still find last years CQN picks for the holidays by clicking on my name and this leads you into them through my blog.
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First time poster.
Just checking its working.
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jimtim, Curly, mail back to you.
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Celtic must ask for this postponement, the sooner the better, & it is difficult to see how it could be refused. Hibs' response would indeed be interesting.
Just re-read Estadios' excellent poem from the previous thread.
Thoroughly enjoyed.
Thank you.
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I see the game against Dun Utd has been postponed for the CIS cup. Can we not play Motherwell then as their game with the Huns is also postponed ?.
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Sorry Paul, can't agree
1. Factually.
We have 2 games to rearrange beyond the Motherwell game. Rangers and Dundee United (that has been vacated because of their involvement in the cup final and allows us to play Motherwell)
That leaves jsut one potential free midweek and that would disappear with a replay.
2. Other considerations
Hibs have schedule problems of their own that depend on Rangers progression in the Uefa cup. If Rangers progress then the Scottish Cup QF weekend will have to accommodate their 5th round replay tie with Rangers and the QF with St Johnstone or Partick reverts to the mideweek, ruling it out as a potential date for the Celtic-Hibs game should Hibs progress.
3. Circumstance
The postponement of Rangers game with Lyon came at a time of no fixture congestion in Scotland. Rangers have added to it and it would only be right that the SPL learn from, and admit to, the mistake and refuse under the current conditions.
4.Hibs
It's not a shoey in that they would agree (nor would I) since there is more matchday income generated on a weekend. Though clearly we could test the SPL's willingness to put it to Hibs at all.
Sorry mate, this one, for me, falsely puts the SPL under pressure. Choose the moment. I don't think this is it. Too easy for them to shout and contend paranoia, undermining the case in general.
Hail Hail
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I believe it is wrong to ask for postponements, should we ask before every CL game ?
Gretna were too small to refuse Rangers, Hibs will probably tell us where to go.
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I'm totally against this. I think the main benefit would be tweaking the nose of the SPL, which may be fun, but is unlikely to benefit us down the line.
Rangers scored a huge own goal when they postponed their Gretna fixture. It did them no good against Lyon, and now they'll probably have to play on a Tuesday and a Thursday some week to catch up. Deferring fixtures demeans a league that really doesn't need demeaning any further. Who's going to sponsor the 'unless we get a better offer' SPL? Why would Setanta invest more if they're continually screwed around?
We are Celtic. We're better than this, we have a big strong squad of hungry young players. They don't need this artificial pamperring. Can you see Barca requesting a La Liga postponement before we arrive? Who do you want to be like; Barcelona, or Rangers?
Incidentally, the real solution is to have less league games. The fixture calander should not contain weeknight matches before the start of the season. Let's keep weeknights for Europe, cup replays and (unavoidably) rearranged fixtures.
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BlantyreK,
I was just coming to the same conclusions when I was unfortunately distracted by the news that the Japanese are planning to launch an origami plane from the spacestation, towards earth.
It is in attempt to develop lightweight travel capability in space.
The problem seems to be that since the earth is 70% covered in water, they can't be sure of retrieving it all never mind if it alights on land! I suppose it is a bit like launching one in the class at Helen Rafferty, but finding that a gust of wind from Paul Wladysiuk's backside has diverted up Miss O'Donnel's cloak! (Not an entirely unpleasant sensation if I remember the slight whimper and puckering of the lips correctly)!!
Anyway, they've decided to put a return address on it in multiple languages stating 'if you find this then please return to Japan'.
If they can make this work, I think that you should work with them in solving the fixture 'problem'.
I wonder if they are going to try and bend the nose a little to make it look like Concorde?
BTW another site is reporting that I am about to be stung for £55 for the Barca away game. Anyone else got prior info?
Hail Hail
Estadio
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This has the look of another hammer blow in our chances of competing with the smaller, richer teams in the EPL
EPL
or is it?
Anyway, lots of great John Hartson memories - to much mirth I always said he was the best finisher at the club!!!!! Loved his finish at Celtic Park against Rangers from the Chris Sutton knock out but the high point has to be the sheer elation of his goal at Anfield.
He lived the dream!
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Can't see a postponement Paul, reasons summed up in BlantyreKev's 3rd point.
In future it might be better if the SPL look at a lighter schedule in and around Champion's League dates.
BBJ Good Luck with your retirement, you served the cause well and you were a delight to watch against the Huns.YNWA
BF
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Rimtimtim
I posted an answer to you on the last thread.
My thoughts on the postponement stuff is that we should play. If we use the squad well, we should avoid fatigue.
Contact injuries can happen any time, in training or wherever. Santiago Cañizares and David Batty are just two that missed out on major international tournaments because of accidents in the home: one with a bottle of eau de toilette, the other with a wean.
The eau de toilette one wasn't David Batty.
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Estadio
I got an email from Thomas Cook this morning offereing a trip to Barcelona from Belfast which included a ticket for £55.
Not sure if this is face value or Thomas Cook taking a little commission.
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TMC,
according to Big John it is not the mirth but the girth, "I cant even have a burger without putting on half a stone!", John Hartson.
BF
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Welcome lurgan53.
BlantyreKev, correct about the Dundee United game.
Agree, we would need to wait on the outcome of Rangers – Panathinaikos game on 21 February, but if that goes to form I cannot see further problems.
Danny, three games in six days before an away knock out match is circumstance enough for me.
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I think it would be better all round if we don't even ask for a postponement in the first place.
Better still release a statement saying that we wont be asking for a postponement as we feel we have a sufficient enough squad to cope with the domestic /Euuropean schedule, in a subtle GIRUY way of course.
vclxi
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Mort,
I've had no details yet.
I'm travelling independently but have already got guarantee of tickets directly from Celtic.
When they arrive I'll check price and let you know if there is a difference from TC.
hail hail
Estadio
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I’m in the ‘don’t ask’ camp too. We know the benefits/risks of successful European campaigns in advance. It is up to us to have a squad in place to cope.
Postponements are for small cash strapped clubs.
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Paul..
IF THE HUNS GET KNOCKED OUT OF UEFA CUP IN THE NEXT ROUND.. WILL THIS FREE UP MAR 11/12 FOR A POSSIBLE DATE FOR REARRANGED OLD FIM GAME.. ?
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Would rather see us play the extra game and have the chance to go back top of the league at ibrox.
The SPL IS / SHOULD be the priority and 3 in a row.
Hail Hail
Pob
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I have to agree with BlantyreKev, as the season constricts towards its end so do the opportunities for rearranged games. The SFA could easily argue (if they feel like arguing at all) that the Rangers v Gretna game was postponed at a time when the season was laid out before them. They could also quite rightly claim it would have been impossible to legislate for the cancelled games following Phil O’Donnell’s death, one of which Celtic requested and was granted. I wouldn’t want anyone trying to claim we were using such circumstances simply to prove a point.
I don’t know why we’re still concerned about the Gretna cancellation anyway, I was happy it was given at the time and I’m even happier now.
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In an effort to expand the influence of the EPL, they are proposing to extend the season by 10 games. These matches are to be played in countries throughout the world, with individual cities bidding for the rights to stage the games.
These are the type of business situations that would be open to us if we could break free from the narrow minded SPL.
The future of football is definetly going to be bigger then the confines of national borders.
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Paul67:
I agree in principal that we should, for the sake of equality, request a postponement for the Hib’s game.
Then again a rather - big - wee part of the rebellious underdog in me, who never says please to those beneath contempt, says: bugger it, play out the fixtures as they stand, for at least against Barcelona we’ll play a real football team with a real referee; with an impartial watching world. (Who are not stupid)
And the Celtic fans will do as they always do, irrespective of the score… celebrate the moment… celebrate the memory.
In my most humble of opinions I do believe we have the squad to achieve.
In my most humble opinion was … Not plagiarised from any wigged fellow.
I think in everything we should remember one thing above all else - We are Celtic and Celtic are We.
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estadio
The problem seems to be that since the earth is 70% covered in water, they can't be sure of retrieving it all never mind if it alights on land! I suppose it is a bit like launching one in the class at Helen Rafferty, but finding that a gust of wind from Paul Wladysiuk's backside has diverted up Miss O'Donnel's cloak! (Not an entirely unpleasant sensation if I remember the slight whimper and puckering of the lips correctly)!!
whit are you like man . lol
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Not keen on asking for a postponement for the same reason I pointed the finger at Rankers. The sides we play against in Europe dont get league games postponed before Euro ties. Let THEM ask for special favours we should get on with it. While showing up any bias would be good, I think we will have plenty more opportunities, sadly. Also agree with xclxi a wee statement might hit the spot.
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John Hartson.
A proud Man
A proud Father
A proud Welshman
A proud Celt
And a fabulous guy to be in company with.
I’ve had the pleasure to be in awe of him.
The wee devil in me wants JR & PL to ask for the postponement
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They might retort that our TOP Goalscorer played three away games in a week...And one really was AWAY...if he gets picked at sheepville...
'HAPPY NEW YEAR' Chinese... Year of the 'RAT'...nominationsbelow...To all our Asian Freinds...
o1bhoy
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It would be interesting to test the water and see if having the game postponed is an option by simply asking if a posponement would be granted but not necessarily having the game put off. If permission was denied by the SPL then we would know what they're up to. If permission is granted to postpone the game then it would leave Celtic able to call the shots and decide whther or not to take up the chance of a free weekend.
Then again, look what happened to the last Scottish team who were granted a postponement before a vital European tie.
I personally think we shouldn't. It's all hypothetical I know, but say we get on a good run (which after Saturday looks likely) with everyone on top of their game with so much competition for places. The 11 that take the field v Hibs will be bursting a gut to make sure they are selected in Barca. A win v Hibs and our tails are up, going to the Nou Camp in confidence (assuming we got a good result at Celtic Park).
Bring on the Spaniards by the score.... and the Scots as well!
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Looks like even Preston (2nd from bottom of the championship) are better then TFOD
From the BBC website:
Preston swoop for Polish keeper
Preston have signed Polish international goalkeeper Grzegorz Szamotulski on a six-month contract.
The 33-year-old was available as a free agent after finishing a six-month contract with Dundee United in January.
Szamotulski, who has 13 caps for his country, played 23 times for the Tangerines this season after joining from Austria's Sturm Graz in July.
He will provide cover and competition for Andrew Lonnergan and will be in the squad to face Coventry at the weekend.
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I meant to add as well regarding BBJ. I haven't read through the posts but my first memory of him with us was his debut at Kilamrnock. I think Lubo or Petta got injured early on and the big man is brought on.
2 minutes later he has absolutely demolished a Kilamrnock defender down at the corner flag right in front of us. He really should have walked but somehow escaped with a booking!
Fantastic striker, you won't see many, if any, like him any more. he simply would have been discarded nowadays due to him not being an 'athlete'. You also won't find many who enjoyed skelping the huns as much as he did! His goal at Anfield will be remembered forever. You just wonder the difference he would have made in Seville. Mourinho for one has admitted he was terrified of the big man playing and his injury was a major factor in Porto winning the UEFA Cup.
Enjoy your retirement big man!
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Are there any members of the Dubai CSC who post on CQN?
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Quiz time as I am bored -
1 - who is the only player to score in a glasgow, manchester and merseyside derby.
2 - Name the only team out of the 92 in the UK whose name starts with 5 consonants.
No using Google
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I think the arguments for not applying for a postponement outweigh those for applying.
As porridge stated, we have a strong squad who should be gut-busting to play in Barca and as has been demonstrated, having games postponed can be a bum biter.
Perhaps as suggested, a loaded statement from PL, similar to the one he issued about the Celtic support and the city and club of Barcalona.
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bazzabhoy
Too easy. Kanchelskis and Crystal Palace.
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What about zzzzzRangers
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Ok then porridgeandbananas -
Name the only player to have won every competition he played in. Also came off the bench to score a hat trick in the European Cup Final, having sustained a leg break earlier in the season....?
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bazza
Don't have a clue mate, if I had to guess I would say Gerd Muller.
Good Question.
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This one has probably been asked before but anyway. Who is the only player to have played in the Premiership, the three other Football Leagues, the Conference, UEFA Cup and Champions League?
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Bazzabhoy,
Was it Roy of the Rovers?
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Evening all,just like to say I had the utmost pleasure of meeting a couple of fellow Celtic men,and posters on here.
Good to put a couple of faces to names(although,perhaps it would have been better left to the imagination)
Just like to say thank you to yourself Paul for making it possible.
And thanks to the two people who made,what could have been an awkward situation,extremely enjoyable.
Oh and by the way,tell them to stuff their postponement where the sun doesn't shine.
Let us play our games,show them up for the idiots they are.
The whole world will be watching.
Can't think of a better time to show them up for what they are.
A bunch of sad twisted people.
And that is being kind to them.
We have done our business before,despite their best efforts.
And there is something a wee bit sweeter when we do it despite the difficulties they lay before us.
In fact it is a lot sweeter.
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TLW - YUP! Thats the one mate! Sorry.
Ive currently got two current buns in the office going off there nut cos they dont know. Boys about to ask folk on hollow hollow.
Porridgeandbananas - steve finnan?
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I'm with the other TTT in this in that I also think the arguments for not applying for a postponement outweigh those for applying.
I also happen to be of the opinion that we should ALWAYS be bigger, better and of higher moral standards than TFOD. Therefore, we don't go begging for a postponement, but as someone before mentioned, a suitably barbed comment from the SSM, as to why we WON'T ask for postponement will get the point across nice and clear.
BBJ,
thanks for all those goals big man, especially all those against TFOD which you took obvious great delight in - GIRFUY if ever there were any and there were plenty- and the other big games, Anfield being right up there.
But for me the most important one was the strike away to Celta Vigo, which guaranteed us European football after Christmas for the first time in 20 years or so. IMHO that was the foundation for our great run that season.
HAIL! HAIL!
TTT
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banglabhoy,there is an occasional poster and avid reader who goes by the name of "the Barca Mole"or TBM.
He will sort you out for what you need to know.
Or visit here
They meet in Dubliners pub.
Tinytim(among others) has sampled their hospitality,and,like him,I can assure you, it is superb.
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Ha Ha
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I have to agree with the sentiments of the rest of the guys that asking for a postponement is not the way to go.
I would love to call the spl/sfa bluff and show them up for what they are but I just feel that we are bigger and better that.
They call us paranoid but that doesn’t mean they are not out to get us! We all know there is an undercurrent within the society and life in this country do we really, as a club need to pull a stunt like this to prove it?
For me all it will achieve is to give the chance for the radio phone morons (no offence terry) to debate the issue for weeks and give them even more scope for using that awful term O** F*** and likening us to that lot again!
On another note just to pick up on the points made last night. I am a Irish born Scottish raised individual who although raised in this country and speak with a Scottish accent am extremely patriotic towards my homeland. I find the level of criticism towards Aiden from anglo/scouse hacks like Ronnie Whelan appalling and an embarrassment to our proud nation. I may be wrong in this and someone can correct me if I am but is this hack even Irish?
RantOverCSC
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bazzabhoy,
nah mate not steve finnan, i had to google when i got asked the question.
yer a bugger with that Roy Of The Rovers question, i mind my dad catching me with that one before. I suppose I asked for it with my smart-ass reply earlier! haha.
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I'd also like to say a wee ta to Andy and Paul at the Perth CSC for making me(who is these days a very infrequent visitor)and our crowd extremely welcome at the game against Kilmarnock.
And a particular thnks to Mick(who I didn't previously know)for letting us into the "secret Celtic room" and taking some pictures of four very happy people.
Good night was had by all.
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porridgeandbananas.
I aint got a clue mate. reckon it must be a scouser though? Peter Crouch?
Heres another (topical) one.
Who is the only person who survived the Munich disaster who has only recently retired?
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is it someone neil lennon also played with?
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bazzabhoy
It's actually Steve Harper of Newcastle. Seemingly he was out on loan at Clubs in the lower leagues when he was younger and played in the top competitions with Newcastle.
I read somewhere there was an unborn baby who survived the Munich crash so I'm guessing it's him/her, though being able to retire at 49/50 would be not bad!
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Good to see that the Grandmaster Bigot Number 1 has taken on his assistant choir-master (from his time at the Death Star) as new goalkeeping coach.
I dearsay that the changing room will be full of lovely party tunes from now on.
Well done Mr Brown and Mr Goram
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porridgeandbananas,
the unborn baby was from Belgrade and Man Utd goalie Harry Gregg, who saved his mothers life, went back to Belgrade not long ago to meet him for the first time.
I know his mother is still alive so it could be her though its more likely to be someone english?
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Two visits to Myrrh Park within eight days of March (pitch permitting) - Unholy Week.
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Ferenc Puskas?
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Is the English one John Barnes or Vinnie Jones?
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Porridge & Mort - You are both sort of correct.
The answer is john lukic (sp) His mother was a reporter on the plane and was keih cheggers with him at the time.
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Stan Mortenson for the European cup hatrick scorer?
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Mort
Is that a wind up in regards to the trip form Belfast to Barcelona?. Checked the thomas cook website and found tickets available from Belfast but at £245.
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Porridge,
Surely Steve Guppy has to be in the all leagues including non league and CL and UEFA cup? Didn't he start with MOn at Wycombe non league, he got promoted with them went to Newcastle, Port Vale, Leicester and the tic
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WG
You could regard it as a kind of Stations with a ball thrown in.
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Greenlion2
I had a look at some of the books suggested on your blog, some good reading there. Have had 100 years of solitude recommended to me by a few friends I must get a copy, incidentally, that would also make a good title for a Cliftonville Fc centenerary publication. Can I also recommend Joseph Hellers Catch-22 for your blog, one of my favourite books and the inspiration for my posting name.
Washington Irving CSC
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Paul
there are a few more rounds of CL football before the final - I think we should keep our powder dry until the away semi leg
VertWolf
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no wind up Irving,
This is the page the email takes me to:
Thomas Cook
If you click the bottom link it will allow you to select how many people are going. I tried it for 2 sharing a double room and the price was £820 which included 2 tickets at £55 each.
The £245 is a Day trip from Glasgow.
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i suspect hibs would reject a request to cancel our game. we could overcome the financial loss to Hibs by compensating them, however they are chasing a top six place and probably fancy their chances a little more if our mind is on an upcoming game against barca.
given the likely outcome of the barca tie, then i would be playing my strongest team in every spl tie between now and the end of the season
as an aside, i watched the usa v mexico game last night. some great football from both sides and the quality of the game in the states has improved significantly
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My tribute to John Hartson.
Today former Celtic and Arsenal striker John Hartson has announced his retirement after leaving West Brom last month.
The 32-year-old, who won 51 caps for Wales, revealed he had lost his desire and was struggling to keep fit.
John Hartson came to Glasgow one afternoon in the hope on that day that he would sign for Glasgow Rangers however due to unforseen medical examinations, Rangers FC Pulled the plug on any deal stating a knee injury was to show within the medical tests.
Almost at one full year later August 2001, John Hartson was then signed by Rangers' fierciest rivals Glasgow Celtic for a fee of £6million for which was to come close to their still outstanding transfer fee paid out for Chris Sutton at £6.5million.
John Hartson took his time to setlle into what was to become a very successful period in his career - some would say his most succesful days were at Parkhead where he would go on to pick up trophy after trophy whilst banging goal afater goal.
" Big Bad" John would go onto to repay the " faith " shown by Rangers FC by scoring many upon many a goal against them for which John himself would gladly say was his main objective when first arriving to sign on the dotted line and to pull on the hoops.
John scored so other many a goal whilst wearing the hoops none more memorable than in the UEFA Cup run for which Celtic would go all the way whilst finally sucumbing against the mighty FC Porto who would the year later go onto win also UEFA's prestigious Champions League trophy.
On the run to the UEFA Cup final it was John Hartson's goals against Celta Vigo in spain for would put Celtic through on away goals - It was to be his tremedous goal against Liverpool in the 2nd leg at Anfield for which was to further highlighten what was to be a truly unforgettable night in Glasgow Celtic's european history.
I for one will never EVER forget what John Hartson achieved and for what happiness the big man brought to us at Celtic Park.
I will never forget his goals and I will never forget his leadership up front in what has to be classed as one of the greatest IF NOT THee greatest frontline in Celtic's long history.
Chris Sutton, Henrik Larsson and John Hartson - What I would do for a strikeforce like that again - These 3 are TRUE CELTIC LEGENDS.
I hope that you find your retirement to be easy John, Good luck with the family life you so very much crave and your always welcome at the home of Glasgow Celtic.
HAIL HAIL - YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE
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Kano -
The European Cup hatrick scorer was none other than....
Roy Race of Melchester Rovers fame.
Sorry
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Bazzabhoy,
I've heard the John Lukic story before - and it's an urban mith!
Lukic wasn't born until late 1960, over two years after Munich!
i think there was a passenger called Likic on the plane, but no relation to the former keeper.
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Gordon_J, BazzaBhoy,
I think this fella Zoran Lukic is who was the unborn child aboard the plane.
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John Lukic was born in 1960. There was an air stewardess called Lukic on the flight and some confused her with John Lukic.
About as valid as the Ashley Giles, `King of Spain` story. :-)
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Thanks Mort.
Just reading some of the John Hartson stories and memories. What a guy!
I can remember being upset when I thought they were going to sign him and delighted when we actually did.
His goals at Anfield and against Hearts to clinch the league will be the ones I will remember most.
Good luck in whatever comes next BBJ!
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Any time I have heard BBJ on the radio or on TV he comes across very intelligent and articulate and I wonder if his future career could involve broadcasting.
Just hope that if he works in Scotland he doesn't become a Hun apologist like so many of his predecessors.
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The ad hoc decisions to postpone certain matches have done nothing but set dangerous precedents and cause fixture congestion.
The sudden, tragic death of Phil O'Donnell is an obvious exceptional circumstance. It is also reasonable to postpone games when squads are decimated through illness.
The governing bodies should try to ensure that teams playing in Europe on a Thursday should not play a domestic fixture until at least the following Sunday. Similarly, teams playing a domestic fixture on a Sunday should not have to play in Europe until at least the following Wednesday.
Professional football is a squad game and success means that more games will be played and squad strength will be tested.
Ad hoc postponements go against the spirit of the game. Football is a competitive sport. Scottish Football has no history of favouring Celtic. What we should expect is that all Scottish clubs are treated evenly and fairly ;-D
Chris
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VertWolf, :-)
Well said, Kraljski.
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Mort
There is as Much chance that John Hartson will become another media 'Hun Apologist' as Nacho Novo finally recieving that long overdue call up for the Spanish national team...
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Ahh, I stand corrected. Thanks for settin me straight though.
Re Roy Rovers... admit it, youse all chuckled? Bhoys on the bus nearly killed me after trying to work it out all the way to the game, back from the game and the pub after the game when I asked them.
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did Roy Race not play for his rivals as well melchester united
Imagine henrik and Roy Race in the same team.100 goals a season between them no probleb
Agree we dont need to ask for a postponement,we have more class than the dark side lets use it
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problem even ,must not post when on phone
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Kano, my pleasure.
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peter martin having a dig at Celtic in his column at ET.
Says he won,t pander or tow party line so he can retain his integrity.He is hilarious!!
Have never seen or known any newspaper or hack to feel the need to print retort on criticism of a story which was vindictive and petty at best.
His implication that Celtic try to manipulate Scottish press is absurd at best.
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John Hartson you are a celtic legend! You always gave 100% for the jersey and never let football go to your head.
You always struck me as a real intelligent, honest, genuine, hard working professional.
You never forgot where you came from and knew how privileged you were to be a footballer and a celtic player at that.
I wish you and your family all the very best for the future.
Thankyou John for all the great memories, Rangers loss was our great gain and how they lived to rue that decision.
Big Bad John we salute you!
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peter martin is getting beyond a joke ,who can take this man seriously,trys to speak with vision and authority ,but all that comes out is mince and tatties
I guess he thinks he scotlands answer to the late Norman Mailler
ireadthebeanopetermartin.farce
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I am becoming worried in the sense of the slightly growing criticsm of that of Scott Brown so I would like to stick my oar in if I may.
Brown's performances this season have been so far so good but only for any normal player in any normal team - Brown isn't a normal player in the escence that he's possibly the highest rated young midfielder in Scotland and also that he has a prime position playing for Scotland's Champions.
What Brown should be doing more of is coming back or sitting mid-park, either battling himself for the ball or collecting it from another player, looking up, driving forward and once he then releases the ball he should drive forward himself supporting the wide men and forwards into the box looking at any cut backs or picking up any loose bals coming from defensive interupption s or keeper saves.
The best man I would ask him to watch doesn't do it as much now but that would be to pick up DVD's etc and ask him to evaluate exactly what Stiliyan Petrov did once he got in full motion at Parkhead.
Stiliyan was at his time in Glasgow the best box to box midfielder in the country and his goals were invaluable to us - something for which Brown needs to add to his game - goals.
I somewhat agree slightly with Jamie in that I find Rangers' midfield to be slightly better in the escence of fergie supporting the front two whilst Thomson knows his position to sit back similar that of Hemdani - BUT with both Hemdani and Thomson doing so it makes it FAR FAR easier for Fergie to get forward.
So while WGS prefers 2 men up front and we ask Brown to do a similar role that of Petrov or in todays case Fergie - it's easier at this moment in time for Fergie to do what Fergie is AS he has 2 defensive minded midfielders to support him.
Brown's still young -IMO he has more ability, creativity and prospectability than that of Ferguson for which to then go forward and then become truly one of Scotlands finest midfielders.
Consitency is the key and especially something for which is required in order to remain a first team regular.
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My first reaction to the postponement question, was that we should force the SPL to make a decision which was guaranteed to embarrass them.
The wisdom of subsequent posters has forced me to agree with them, that we should NOT go down the route taken by our neighbours....EVER. The fixture list should be sacrosanct, & having to juggle fixtures is the price we pay for being involved in the CL at this stage. It will make much more of a statement for us to just get on with it, & leave it to others to ask for favours.
I suppose all I can argue is that a man who can't change his mind, can't change anything.
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Had the pleasure of BBJ's company on a flight from Glasgow - Cardiff a few weeks after Seville. He was with his daughter. The flight was delayed and his daughter feeling ill. I went to buy my 2 daughters a bottle of water and brought one back for his daughter. He was an absolute gentleman, we talked about him missing the Seville game, about Dick Advocaat, talked about the Celtic fans and he was happy to chat away. The flight was that quiet, he even actually asked the flight attendants if the girls and I could move upto the same row of seats. The flight eventually got into Cardiff, he was met by his father and I was offered a lift to Brecon (even though it was 40 miles in the opposite direction. I renaged but he gave me his telephone number and said if I ever needed tickets to give him a bell. I never ever took him up on his offer but 4 years later I was at the bar in Jinty McGinty's in Ashton Lane, he came upto me shook my hand and introduced me to Neil Lennon by my name. I was surprised at him remembering me
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When people move on from Celtic to another club then indifference is about all i can muster.
Big John's retirement is different,he was a great Celt and a barnstormin centre.
John Hartson is Gladiator
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The criticism of Scott Brown is silly.He is a young guy who contrary to what,s said in Scottish media has done well.Team shape and playing him on right and centre have affected him slightly but in long term he will get better for it.
Beware of Scottish media,s constant Chinese whisper,s campaign against Celtic players some of our fans do fall for it.
I think he will be a great Celt.
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Bazzabhoy at 14.30-
2 - Name the only team out of the 92 in the UK whose name starts with 5 consonants.
92 teams in the UK ?
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Evening all, long term reader, hardly ever poster these days...
Regarding the tickets for barca, i've been keeping an active eye on things from here as they're available to buy from my local bank...eventually, after the season ticket holders and then the members have had first crack...
The following is from their website:FCB-Celtic – The Champions League is more thrilling at the Camp Nou
Advance ticket sales for this Champions League final phase first knockout round match commence on 4 February for members that do not have a season ticket.
Each member will be able to buy a maximum of two tickets. The seats will be available at a price of €73 and members will be able to claim a five per cent discount on their first ticket.
This application for tickets can be made by non-season ticket holding club members. Depending on the number of seat the club sell, the Free Seat process will be available.
You can purchase tickets for this game from here.
MEMBER PUBLIC
GRANDSTAND
1st and 2nd tier 162 € 170 €
3rd tier 145 € 153 €
LATERAL
1st and 2nd tier 127 € 134 €
3rd tier 111 € 117 €
GOAL
1st and 2nd tier 89 € 94 €
3rd tier 80 € 84 €
GENERAL
Lateral 3rd tier 69 € 73 €
Goal 69 € 73 €
Member discount : 5%
Conditions for sale of tickets for games at the Camp Nou to members and general public
Members
The start of the season sees the opening of an exclusive period of ticket sales for members. During this period, sales will be restricted to members without season tickets. They also get a 5% discount on the price..
For this game, a maximum of two tickets will be sold per person, club member or general public.
Ticket availability
Further ticket sale periods are dependent upon the availability of tickets freed up through the Seient Lliure service and members and the general public will be informed of this in due course.
Sales channels
Internet (CHOOSE YOUR SEAT): if you purchase your ticket by internet you can choose your seat using the plan of the Camp Nou showing the position of the seat you choose.
Buy tickets HERE
Telephone 902 1899 00 or +34 93 496 36 00 (if calling from outside Spain)
‘La Caixa’ Servicaixa ATM’s
FC Barcelona General Ticket Office (access 14):
· Monday to Thursday, from 9.00 to 13.30 and 15.30 to 18.00
· Friday, from 9.00 to 14.30
· Saturday from 9.00 to 13.30 on weekends of matches played at the Camp Nou.
FC Barcelona Boulevard Ticket Office (access 7/9):
· Monday to Thursday from 10.00 to 18.00
· Sundays from 10.00 to 14.15.
FC Barcelona Gol Nord and Gol Sud Ticket Offices:
· Match days: from 11.00 until kick off booths Gol Nord (North Goal) and Gol Sud (South Goal).
As you can see, it's not cheap, however that probably means that tickets will be available.
I've been to the bank since Feb 4 and it's still members only.
One other point, your bankcard has to be of spanish origin..
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Evening all
Lyrcu
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For anyone that didn't see the Ireland v Brazil game last night, Aiden was the most skillfull player on the pitch (including the Brazillians). One or two of his passes went astray, but overall he has now reached the standard at international level that he has achieved with Celtic this season; and still more to come.
A feckn Gem !
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I typed into wiki the word "HUN", since the numptys on Follow Fascism are saying it was sectarian.
Go down to the end of Origin and Identity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hun
Admit it - who was it?
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The Fighting Irish
"According to the Oxford dictionary (2nd edition) Hun means - knuckle dragging, blue-nosed, anti catholic, KKK loving Rangers supporter."
LOL!
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I recall when Glasgow City Chambers was known far and wide as 'Corruption Hall': how long before we hear Soho Square renamed?
Progress, EPL-style
Franchise news
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It has been pulled from "wiki" but I managed to save the funny part.
"In 1874, a group of Huns managed to learn to read and write and formed a football club on the outskirts of Glasgow. A sectrian organisation with strong anti Catholic views. The newly formed bigotted organisation had played around with a few names, one favourite was KKK Rangers FC, another one was Knuckle Draggers FC but were happy with Glasgow Rangers FC. With over 128 years of unsurpassed dignity, they really are the country's established club. It has been argued by the Rangers Supporters Trust (David NEDGAR)and their mouthpiece website Follow Fascism that the word Hun is sectarian.
According to the Oxford dictionary (2nd edition) Hun means - knuckle dragging, blue-nosed, anti catholic, KKK loving Rangers supporter"
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It was blocked by a moderator called "WATP" oh deary deary me.
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My dear friend, Fan-a-tic...
Never defend the indefensible!
Who said that?
I just did!
Scott Brown, is simply not playing up to the standard that he we have come to appreciate and expect,from a chap of his undoubted talents.
His youthfulness in this case is no excuse.
He has abundantly demonstrated,in his past performances, that he is very capable of grabbing a game by the hip...and throwing his more senior in age opponents, into utter disarray.
No, my friend,Scott Brown is... to put it mildly...
Off his Feed!
I expect,in fact, I am sure... that we may say the Face of the Baritone...shortly... in the Celtic Midfield...at the expense of a dropped, Scott.
Kojo.
yer pal....who likes ye.
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It really is ironic (I almost said moronic) for a hypocrit like Peter McGuire to talk about integrity.
A man who changed his name to get the job in the first place.
Is that a cock I hear crowing?
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graeme spiers on snyde saying it was an open secret that celtic were the victims of bias in scotland ,but says it was 20-30 years ago
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Once read a story about MoN signing BBJ.
Hartson mentioned to O'Neill that he may not pass a medical, whereupon O'Neill replied that unless he had a hole in his heart he'd be wearing the hoops.
Wish him all the best, spent a Sunday night drinking with a crowd of his mates up from Wales in Jinty's after a game one sunday. Had to take a sicky on the monday!
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phil770,
I wonder if it is possible that the respectable members of his family insisted that Mc.Guire changed his name, to save them further shame and embarrassment?
The word quisling springs to mind.
William Joyce (Lord Haw Haw was hung for less. :>)
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as a significant member of the fat bar steward club BBJ will never be forgotten
he couldn`t run, he wasn`t very good at tackling and he hated training
but buy God could he score goals ,head the ball and batter defenders
having heard BBJ on the radio i think he will make a great pundit ...just a nice,decent big Bhoy
after having heard him in the background ,on radio,roaring when Naka scored against Manure at CP ...no way would he toady with the other pro hun media
BBJ ..he loved the green and loved scoring against the hun even more
hail hail big man
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terry o'neil
cheers.
BBJ gave me and i'm sure most, passion times 10. one of the great celts and i've seen a few.
again gracias amigo
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sorry to dissapoint you graeme ,but its still happening only need to look at last match against the dark side
Lou
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Does anybody know exactly why Peter Martin McGuire actually changed his name? Every week I read all over the Celtic net assumptions that he did it to hide his Irish surname, but does anybody ACTUALLY KNOW FOR A FACT?
I believe a lot of actors change thier names to avoid similarities with otherS in thesame field, maybe PMMcG clashed namewise with another in his chosen profession.....I'd love to know for sure, otherwise a lot of people are making libellous remarks about the louse.
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Che Timvara does it again.
http://www.etims.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2105
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BBJ read BBRJ
big battering ram john
Would have loved to see him up
against molly and the jackal
No contest
watiethrowsinthetowel csc
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fheng...,
Unless it is to avoid confusion with Traynor's tea lady, Annie Mc.Guire
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If Peter Martin did change his name to disguise his origins, why did he use the name, Martin, which has, and I may be mistaken here, Irish connections. Come to that why leave, Peter, which to those of a Taigspottin' persuasion, definitely means fenian?
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21st Century Footballers Are Big Girls Blouses
Loved that Leeds strip btw.
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Darcheville appeal - failed
Mc.Gregor appeal - failed
Is Ranger's appeal failing?
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dennis47,
No, my friend, you are not mistaken.
Irish as well as Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, French and virtually every other western nation.
Sammy Ferguson would have been a more appropriate nom de plume.
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I´m with Paul67 on this one. I was of the opinion that the no cancellations should have taken place because of the Scotland game or the Rangers Lyon game. Both were cancelled for "the good of Scottish football" - SPL
I think that it should not be down to the clubs to decide anyway as there is far too much room for leverage
Phil O'Donnell death was an absolute tragedy - SPL reaction to it was unbelievable - paranoid are we? Lets look at the re-arranging of fixtures over the December or so within the SPL.
It began (in my mind anyway) w/the postponement of the Gretna vs Rangers game on Dec 9th postponed to Jan 16th for the "good of Scottish football" - SPL quote, for the Rangers Lyon clash on Dec 12th.. Quote from Dec 4th..
Gretna boss Davie Irons is fully behind the Scottish Premier League's decision to postpone Rangers' game against his side
Aberdeen, however, asked for their Dec 15th SPL match with Motherwell to be postponed for the same reason as Rangers the week earlier, as they had a crucial UEFA cup tie with Copenhagen on Dec 20th. Rejected by Motherwell.
Results - Gretna v Rangers postponed "for the good of scottish football" - Aberdeen game Not postponed (SPL decision) Lost 3-0 to Motherwell on Dec 15th
Rangers went on to get beat 3-0 by Lyon; Aberdeen went on to beat Copenhagen 4-0. Result - both Rangers and Aberdeen in the last 32 of the Uefa cup "for the good of Scottish football" however Aberdeen probably "gave up " 3 SPL points in the process "for the good of Scottish football". Rangers had no such worry. ... and this is all down to the whim of Davie Irons ?????... surely this can´t be right.
Now Phil O'Donnel collapses and dies at Fir park Dec 29th in the Motherwell vs Dundee Utd SPL game. In what should have been a gesture from the whole of Scotland "for the good of Scottish football" to postpone ALL matches on Jan 2nd as a mark of respect to Phil O'Donnell, the SPL dilly dallies ...WHY?
Firstly, Motherwells next 2 matches (2nd one against Celtic) and Gretna's next match (which is played at Fir Park) are postponed "due to bereavement".
Then what follows to me is truly astounding ( as far as I can tell from reading the internet)
1. Celtic ask on Dec 29th for the Rangers Jan 2nd game to be postponed. SPL deny.
2. Celtic ask Rangers if its ok to postpone this game and make the request public.
Stephen McManus and Scott MacDonald in particular made it clear to Strachan that they had no interest in playing the game and this played a major part and affected the other Celtic players.
3. Rangers officially and publicly request the game be postponed on Mon Dec 31st. Wish is granted immediately by the SPL.
4. However Dundee utd who actually saw Phil O'Donnel collapse on Dec 29th make same request for the Hearts game Jan 2nd . SPL denied. 2 other games are played on Jan 2nd.
5. Who do Dundee Utd have to play on Jan 5th? after the Hearts game - yes you've guessed it ..Rangers!!!! Im glad they won 4-1!
Considering that Celtic drew with Hearts also on Dec 1st before their big decider against AC Milan on Dec 4th was also not considered for postponement "for the good of Scottish football" then in retrospect I have not seen such blatant favouritism shown by the SPL to Scotland's favourite team in quite a long while. I can only guess that automatic qualification into the Champions league next season is paramount for Rangers in 2008.
Paranoid are we.... on with the next generation ?
Celtic should ask Hibs and if Hibs say yes then what´s the problem ?
If they say no we should kick up a fuss with the SPL saying that it is unfair and ask for control of such decisions to be taken away from the clubs themselves. Seems fair to.
Paul67 your last two articles have been brilliant stuff. Keep it up.
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Thom,
Ah yes these are indeed Western nations, but they have something else in common!
I'm away for a lie down.
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Han,
Don't see much wrong with that. Just a big man and a wee man coming together.
A quiet word and a dropped ball would have been enough. Good job M.McC. wasn't the ref or else he would have sent Bremner off. Had it been Dougal, he would have sent off Lennon and Thompson.
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loumacarisbettingslip,
Graeme Speirs happily tells us that it was all a thing of the past 20,30 40 years ago,funny 20 years ago was 1988,yet Andy Wannabee Walker reckoned there was no bias.
Ah sensed his discomfort at the hypothetical question of what reaction would there have been to a caller proposing such bias at that time.
There is no doubt the same scorn would have been poured on the caller as was poured on John the stat man who siad that Rangers would have to play 35 years to incur the same amount of chopped off goals that Celtic amassed in ten years.
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the rearranged Mothers game on the sat 15 march is a 1230 ko
is it on setanta ?
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BBJ was a legend in my book before he came to Celtic just for panning Eyal Berkovic on the chops. BBJ thank you you are a Celtic legend and a Rangers reject ... what more could a man want and be proud of on his CV
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I simply don't get this attempt at constant oneupmanship over Rangers.
Celtic for the first time in months, played brilliantly against Killie, we should all be hoping they continue to replicate this form than wishing any game be cancelled lest they may lose their form.
If they play as was against Killie I want them to play as often as possible, not less often.
As I said earlier, Rangers should make it look as though they are trying to sign Adam Virgo and you will have half of the posters on here clamouring for Celtic to offer him a 5 year contract, and wanting Celtic to treble his wages.
Let us get our house in order and the rest can worry over 2nd place.
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can you appeal a failed appealing
failing that can you appeal again if its not failed
memo to martin bain
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on Peter Martin
He won't toe the Celtic party line, eh?
Which line would that be then, Pedro?
All we demand is fair and honest opinion. When you spout nonsense and 95% of the Celtic fan base tells you it's nonsense, maybe you had better reconsider. You're a man with many reasons to be humble.
on postponements
No, don't think so. Our priority is the SPL title. We should not be postponing games to obtain some nebulous advantage in the CL. The Barca game will take care of itself.
We need to have full focus on the SPL games, one at a time.
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pfayr
On Setanta as you say followed on the 23rd away to Gretna and the 29th away to the Huns.
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pggtips,
I agree with you on both counts. I think the postponements already in place have helped us, both in having players refocused and return from injury and in allowing us to bring in the new boys without the distraction of playing games on doubtful pitches.
Also, we are probably as strong now as we are going to be this season, so let's kick on and build up a momentum and leave others to catch up on games.
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Surprised at so many posters think that the postponement has something to do with CL progress. It´s about demonstrating that Rangers get "haunders" from the SPL and the SFA
Which is basically unfair and discriminating mainly towards Celtic it´s Celtic job to take that injustice on. The cap in hand staring at the ground lets not rock the boat mentality is why they have such an incongruous European record compared to their European one. It´s not just about this year it´s about every year.
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Celtic get fair treatment from referees nowadays anti Celtic bias being ah thing of the past ,we live in more enlightened times according to Graeme Speirs.
If you believe that then you will believe the guy on the table wae the hat on will get fair treatment.
Fair Treatment
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Yep! Lets get it on with them all. Only note of caution is that Scott Mc Donald is one booking away from a three match suspension. Wouldn't like him to miss his go at the bad guys!
There now. First football post.
That wasn't so bad!
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Further to Valencia Bhoy's informative post, I want to add a word of warning.
I bought a ticket for the March 2004 game in much the way described by Valencia Bhoy, but when I turned up at the stadium looking more Calton than Catalonia (and I don't mean because of team colours) I still had a terrible time persuading the police officer on duty to let me in.
I told her I was from Glasgow but that I had been in Zaragoza working, which was true, and showed my train ticket. This helped convince her. Also, I hadn't touched a drop (I made up for it later).
If you go down Valencia Bhoy's route, there may be extra hurdles to overcome, but good luck to all who try.
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Terry o"neil
that was some stat ,that that man gave was it a 100 goals celtic have had chopped off since wim jansen and when rangers won the treble,fergushun was top scorer ,by reason of scoring with penalties,if im wrong terry can you correct me
lou
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Great artile on Etims with regards Peter Martin. Brilliant piece!! Well done Etims keep up the good articles.
Anybody from Etims on this site? Any chance you can re create the weekly Rumour Mill. It was good start to weekend and something to look forward to on Friday at the end of hard weeks slog.
FREE THE WEEKLY ETIMS RUMOUR MILL!!
Paul67,
If you read the article in question. What was Pete Lawwell and Gordon's reaction to the article penned in the Evening Times? Especially Gordon as it was a pretty personal attack.
Considering that Peter Martin got the chance of a rare interview with WGS in person. Pretty bad crack the way he has went. Peter Martin reminds me of the time when you used to see people at school not wanting to be their own person and trying to show off to their mates to try and impress them.
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On Peter Martin, he said he changed his name because he thought that the surname Maguire might impede his progress in the field of journalism. I wonder what gave him that idea. If I were unkind, I could also wonder exactly how low on the totem pole he might have ended up if he had kept his own name. I would hardly describe his present stuff as the pinnacle of the profession. However I will leave that for others to judge.
On the subject of Celtic books, one of my favourites is Glasgow Celtic 1945-1970 by Tom Campbell.It is well written and also goes into a lot of detail about a period in Celtic's history I find particularly interesting because my father talked a lot about the personalities of the time and there seems to be very little in print about it.
The book also uses extracts from newspapers of the time. These are mainly from the Herald and written by Cyril Horne. He seems to have been, if not pro Celtic, at least very objective. I believe he was a friend of Bob Kelly. Older hands might be able to tell more about his leanings.
My views on Cyril Horne may well be coloured by the keech I read from the laptop loyal in the days before the newspaper boycott meant that the only printed material entering the premises apart from bills are the Celtic View, Catholic Observer and the Flourish.
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My dear friend, Theng....@1943.
The voice of the Turtle,speaks..
Agreed,my friend... you are so right...
Prejudgment, is ...well ... a fancy name... for assumption.
And EVERYBODY knows where that type of behavior can lead!
In this case.. the changing of one's patronym for another, does not in any shape of form.. IN ACTUALITY ... present grounds for making the ASSUMPTION... that the nomen changer, has an ulterior motive.
Whatever the changer has in mind... is really none of anyone else's business.
The woild, unfortunately is, full of People who are always anxious to poke their proboscises into other peoples honey pot.
The very fact that the man under discussion...chose another Irish sounding name... knocks squarely on the head,the ridiculous reason put forward by his denigrators as to why....in their PREJUDGMENT... he changed his surname, in the foist place.
If...and I say if.. I felt that I would be under an obligation to change my own surname, in order to cloak my assumed Catholicity... then, my friend... I would make sure that my new Family Name.. would bespeak... and very loudly, from the rooftops, that I was not of that assumed, faith.
A name like....
MCGREGOR, would... I am sure,do the trick, very nicely.
I believe strongly that anyone...and I mean.... anyone.. has the God given right to do whatever he wishes...and without any outside interference or objections.....
As long as he/she, in no shape or form... Breaks the Law... or Harms anyone else, by his/her action,
That in a Nutshell...is....wella..
Is what I call.... Freedom!
Kojo.
yer pal...who think's ye are a straight shooter!
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Here`s a piece from Peter Martin Bain`s column in The Times
"I would rather keep my integrity intact than pander to the propaganda drivel that is poured out from certain clubs to keep the masses happy."
Well, Peter, I would rather keep my NAME, enabling me to keep my integrity, and report what I feel I would like to say, not the drivel I feel I must say to keep the masses off my back.
Don`t spend your 30 pieces all in the one shop. Real shoe (anag).
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Lou bang on,av heard the bad old days argument put forward before,its still as bad ah give you one Michael McCurry.
The worst adjective used to describe a McCurry performance is "poor".
When did poor become one sided.
Kojo ah agree re Martin/McGuire,ah dont really care about his name its the words that come out his mouth that betray him more than any name change.
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Terry
Yel huv tae show me how tae dae that.
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Is it a concidence that Martin AND Whisky Joe's Keevins have not dared to say anything about Smith since the start of the season when smith to the huff with them and warned them.
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If the Hearts game had also been postponed we´d still have a game in hand and if we had got a draw in Milan which would have been more likely we´d be facing Liverpool at Anfield for the first game. How much more do we earn if we manage to get to the QF´s of the CL? All ifs and buts agreed but how can Rangers game be postponed for the good of Scottish football and Aberdeen have to shut up and contend with it ? I´ll tell you why because the biggest rookie in SPL management was being a nice guy. IT quite simply shouldn´t be allowed
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sorry we needed a win in Milan ... highly unlikely but you know where I am coming from
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Aw Naw
I won't dispute your description of Davie Irons as a nice guy as I have no information that contradicts it …
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except perhaps that he is a very big Rangers fan.
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I thought Terry O' Neill made a fine point about the respective fan base of Celtic and rangers in the US etc. they were banging on about both clubs being huge over there. Glad to hear someone setting the record straight.
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I think some people are missing the point of Celtic requesting the game against Hibs to be postponed.
As far as I am concerned I don't give a toss about getting one up on the SFA or Rangers all I care about is Celtic winning every game. Now by getting the game against Hibs postponed would that help Celtic be in a better position to go through against Barca and in a better position to win a rearrange game against Hibs. We cannot be sure but preparation is paramount and if our managers and players feel this would be benifical then I say go for it.
We are not in the 60's now when Sir Bob would accept the status Quo!
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nelsbhoy aw wis gonnae right oot a blow by blow account of how to but why dont you and Christine come up tae the hoose wan Fri/Sat night we can get ah swally and al show you.
Bring the wee barra or get a baby sitter whatever suits.
In the meantime if you go to Steve21's link creator at the right side of the main page thats were ah learnt.
If yae see a picture in say google images do the following (see yiv goat me stratred the invite still stands).
Click on the picture.
Click on the bit it says see full size image.
Right click and then highlight the Address (url)
Select Copy.
Go to Stevie's link creator page and paste the url into the box.
The box below type in a short title.
Press click me and then your highlightd link should appear for youto try.
If its successful then copu the new bigger url that appears above your link.
Ah wis sayin tae Maria aboot getting yies up so thats as good an excuse as any.Slainte.
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Just had a wee look at E-tims, and read the latest gaudd spot, he has a couple of diggs at this site and reads a bit of a mineshafter. Paul67, did you ban him? he seems to be in a huff with CQN.
Oh and as for asking for a postponement, if there was ever a european breakaway, do you think the big boys would be impressed with a Celtic that couldnt handle the pressure of a diddy league?
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My dear,dear,dear friend, TerryO
I am pleased that you are in harmony with my thoughts, on the subject ....Name Exchanging, Room,101.
When, as you do,do,do( Is dat a Threeser? Wow! Fargo?...beat dat!)( Technically?...it's no... but, a nice try,pally)( Drat! You are such a stickler!) my friend....in making plain your objections to Mr. Martin's obvious, Anti-Celtic Bias... then....
You are, indeed, on firm ground.
But anyone who objects to Mr. Martin's name change...is ..right from the Git Go... ...as the English, so quaintly put it...
"Batting, On a Sticky Wicket!"
I shall not bore you, by giving any furtherence, to my usual sermon...as to WHY ...Mr.Martin and his Cohorts... are Behaving towards the Celtic as they do, do.( Twoser?)( Affirmative,old bhoy!...Now that one, is Technically,pristine!...ed )( Thank Goodness,for that... I thought for a moment that I had lost my touch!)
In closing..
Palomine?
Keep on digging, and stabbing and slashing and chippin'... at the Implacable Wall of INJUSTICE ,that ayeways faces DA CELTS...
After all....I for one.. could nevah have imagined the FALL o' Da BERLIN WALL!
Could anyone have?
Kojo.
yer pal... who admires yer LONESOME... Perseverence !
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Celtic_First,
If we want to improve standards across our game then we have to start from the top. Aye and there´s the rub. It even puts somebody like dons legend Mark Mc Ghee on the spot with Aberdeen. What if he said yes and John Boyle called him to think about that one again. Or Mrs Mc Ghee say not fancy a weekend in Hamburg Mark. Where does it end ? Who in the end really runs our game
We need to stick the boot in every time as we all know its ultimately Davie Murray and not Davie Irons that´s the great manipulator.
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Fred C Dobbs thanks for your acknowledgement ah enjoyed you in the Treasure of Sierra Madre
"I think I'll go to sleep and dream about piles of gold getting bigger and bigger and bigger."
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Terry
I cannae make these links work.
I might need to join nelsbhoy fur that wee swally!
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Terry O'Neil @ 17:49 - John Hartson is Gladiator
A Fantastic post Terry; it sent shivers up my spine and put goosepimples on my arms...
Yours in Celtic,
Jim.
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El Diego Bhoy your welcome anytime.
Jim The Tim shivers up the spine and goosebumps thats when your most alive.
Good man Jim yiv got soul.
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Terry O'
Just be careful cos.
I know what gold does to men's souls.
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With Darcheville definitely being banned for both Rangers Uefa Cup ties with Panathinaikos-
and Cousins being in Limbo due to the biggest [or most deliberate] SELF-INFLICTED ADMINISTRATION ERROR IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL
Does this now leave Kris Boyd as Rangers SOLE striking option in European football ?
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Han Solo,
Naismith and Mc Cullogh can both play up front. But he´ll only need one. Mc Cullogh to play the lone battering ram kick anything that moves role or is he out also ?
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Paul67,
Excellent thread. Personally I don't think that we should ask for a postponement of the Hibs game, as has been said earlier we are bigger that that and it didn’t actually help the huns against Lyon did it?. Although it would be nice to hear the excuses from the SPL and Hibs, I don't think that taking the Hibs game out of the way would help when playing Barca, unless we get any injuries that is.
You have to laugh at the EPL salesmen, it would be a great opportunity to take the premier league product to the rest of Europe. What a load of P*@h.
Big John all the very best, I new from the first minute that you signed we had a belter of a player. At 32 he is still a very young man, possibly without his personal issues he may have stayed in the game a little longer. By the way your conduct in public regarding the orcs disgusting treatment of you was superb. Come back anytime.
My final point, how the hell are teh huns geeting away with the treatment of Cousin.
Lisboa
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Aw Naw
I agree. I was only offering the only piece of detail I had on Davie Irons.
Of course he's not the problem.
I told a Welsh colleague, a great supporter of football and rugby, about Bobby Tait requesting to referee Rangers in his last game in 1998, in a crucial, crucial game, and having his request granted.
He said it sounded like something from a Banana Republic. All right, that was ten years ago, which Graham Spiers may argue is in keeping with what he said today. As it's in living memory for most of us, I don't think so.
It stinks.
Canamalar
It's a well known fact that Paul has never banned anyone from CQN, no matter how sorely we may have tempted him.
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Celtic_First
It was ment to be a tongue in cheek question I was just wondering where his hostility to CQN stems from.
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Kojo
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Since when has "Martin" been an Irish sounding name?
Never I would suggest. French, possibly Italian.
Not Irish.
Not even close.
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Lurgan-
Very Irish.
Very Donegal.
Need more ?
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I read the voice of gaudd's piece on e-tims.
He said:-
"so any reluctance to indulge in hyperbole or over-enthusiastic gushing is understandable"
He seems to be labouring under the delusion that it's only hyperbole if you are praising Celtic under WGS. Plenty of negative hyperbole in the piece about both CQN and WGS.
Cyberspace can be a very bitchy world for Celtic fans.
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Han Solo.
A LOT more.
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PAUL67
how about a little farewell for BBJ the man who's goals were pivital in the seville run he cruely missed out on in the end
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......update from Brasil....
1. Yesterdays Eire game : As they saw it.
The commentators and the press (the friendly was on telly live here) were quite complimentary about Aideninho last night (although they were more effusive about Keane leading the line). They pretty much played Eire down by saying that the first half was all about sorting out which Brasilians will play in the WC qualifiers and the second was about who'd go to the Olympics. Personally, I thought the wee man ran his heart out, didn't get enough of the ball as he should have and tired in the last ten on a heavy pitch with wet n' windy conditions.
2. Echoes of a Bunnyman
Meanwhile, over at (a struggling) Corinthians our mate Coelho got his break in the RB starting position last Sat in the SP state championship (he came on as a sub in the 2nd 45mins in the previous game and was boo'ed - along with the rest of the team). Anyway, halfway thru the 2nd half he had a right set too with his own centre half and got subbed straight after. Never played yesterday.
OK gotta go. Post Carnival depression is setting in faster than the credit vultures can circle over Greyskull.
Boa noite
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Lurgan53, missing Scott McDonald would be a real concern.
WGS, I’ve been out today, so have not had a chance to read the eTims article yet and I didn’t see the Evening Times article in question.
I do know that the relationship between the man in question and the club have broken down quite seriously.
Penalty for… indeed.
canamalar, I ban no one, and have never criticised another Celtic site; what's the point? People can make their own mind up one way or another about who or what they read.
Lisboa, cheers.
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Terry, I'd hate to have piles of gold. Sounds like they would be a real challenge for Preparation H.
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set the bears free,
exactly what I was meaning earlier, I think he may be a poster (mineshafter) on here whose nose has been put out of place recently, hence my earlier climsy attempt at how the disjointing of the nose may have been executed.
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Dear Kojo I tried to avoid going off on my usual rant about our central defenders backing up and leaving our midfielders to much space to cover.A normal gap between forwards and defense is 30 to 40 yards.Our gap is usually 40 to 60.That leaves centre mids to large an area to cover.
It is no coincidence that all our central mids have struggled in G.Strachans time as coach.N.lennon filled the area and closed off a lot of the gap.Our present system leaves our centre mids exposed when they commit forward and the alternative is to stay deep and leave forwards isolated.
With S.Browns constant motion it makes him seem out of position sometimes.
fan-a-tic your pal who seldom knows what your on about.
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Dear Kojo I tried to avoid going off on my usual rant about our central defenders backing up and leaving our midfielders to much space to cover.A normal gap between forwards and defense is 30 to 40 yards.Our gap is usually 40 to 60.That leaves centre mids to large an area to cover.
It is no coincidence that all our central mids have struggled in G.Strachans time as coach.N.lennon filled the area and closed off a lot of the gap.Our present system leaves our centre mids exposed when they commit forward and the alternative is to stay deep and leave forwards isolated.
With S.Browns constant motion it makes him seem out of position sometimes.
fan-a-tic your pal who seldom knows what your on about.
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All the best to BBJ - thanks for the memories. Your goal at Liverpool will forever remain my favourite Celtic strike - post 1967:)
Disagree that we should ask for any postponement. Footballers like routine. Disrupting the routine can be expensive as Rangers found out against Lyon.
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Martin
The Martin surname, common in both England and Ireland, can be found primarily in Galway, Tyrone, and Westmeath.
Most common Irish surnames.............
38 Martin Mac Giolla Mháirtín devotee of Saint Martin
39 Maguire Mag Uidhir dun-coloured
What a coincidence.... Numbers 38 & 39.
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Paul67,
quality
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Just read about Rangers failed appeal over JCD sending off v Lyon.
Just how many appeals have they got? They've got more on the go now than Kenny Richey ever did.
Has the Aberdeen match been moved to the 9th?
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Lurgan-
Eat your heart out...
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Antsman, good call. If I had more time today I would have done something, and, alas, I am still busy, with a busy day tomorrow….. These things have a shelf life, if I don’t post something soon it will be too late.
rioskorrie, sounds like we got out of jail with that one.
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My dear friend, Lurgan..
In of whether you did or did not.."Burst my Bubble "as you so condescendingly put it....
Is open to question.
Rather than go into that...
I am quite sure that I have made my point...
Surely....
An adopted surname like...McGREGOR..as I suggested... would have been much more...
AMBIGUOUS, as towards, identifying the bearer's.. Religious Persuasion?
I am sure we shall agree on the point?
Kojo.
yer pal... who hates to argue the toss.... one either agrees with a point of view put forth, or Not.
Your agreement or disagreement as to my past submission, has not been offered....as such..By you.
Please do so... with celerity.
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Terry
Likewise,well huv tae get the gither.Your place or mine anytime.
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garygillespieshamstring there is a new bike out from Preparation H
When all else fails
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Rioskorrie
You in Brasil? If so youve a close compadre here in B.A, Argie.
Should be in rio in 3 weeks around the Botafogo area.
todo el mejor, salud.
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Terry -
OUCH!!!
Ucryl
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Paul67 -
2474
Luryc
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I think the difference between the Gretna-Rangers match and the Motherwell-Aberdeen match is that Rangers appeared to have asked Gretna about a postponement before making a formal request to the SPL. Aberdeen either didn't ask Motherwell, or else they asked the SPL to call the game off knowing that Motherwell were opposed to the idea.
Postponements have been granted in previous years when the other club has been in agreement. Our match with Dundee immediately before the UEFA Cup final was brought forward by three days (I believe it was Dundee who made the offer).
This would suggest that we might get a postponement if Hibs agree (although with their cup situation the SPL might not want to have another match to reschedule), but if Hibs refuse we have no chance.
In this situation I would not bother asking, and would quite like the idea that we should publicly state that we don't need a postponement. If you are a succesful team, you are going to have a lot of matches. It goes with the territory.
I would also like to join in the general good wishes for John Hartson, Celtic legend and slayer of the Huns. I believe he is going to be appearing fairly regularly on Setanta from now on - looking forward to that.
Lisboa, you asked how they are getting away with their treatment of Cousin? Simple - he wanted out, he made his bed and now he has to lie in it. Rangers themselves are probably worse off anyway, with Darcheville suspended for three European matches, and frequently injured anyway, and Boyd not fitting into the one man up formation favoured by Smith.
And from my reading of the rules, if FIFA say he cannot play for Fulham, why should he be allowed back to Rangers? After all, a player can be registered for three clubs in a year, so the transfer itself is not illegal.
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Terry,
I think Keevins et al would find sitting on that a tad more comfortable than dealing with your well directed jabs.
Keep up the good work.
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Nite all - school day tomorrow, so bed is calling.
luryczzzzzzzzzz
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Test.
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Al get ma ma tae phone your ma and get your mobile nos an we can arrange a night.
espionage csc.
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Paul67,
Has PL decided enough is enough with the media. Gloves are off. Time for action? DD detestes the media over here. Maybe between John Reid, DD and PL they are devising a plan.
Constructive criticism i don't mind from anybody and i include ex players. But some of nonsense spouted from people especially ex players like Charlie Nicholas and Andy (can't read an autocue)Walker does my head in.
Walker should remeber his second spell at Celtic before criticising anybody. He couldn't hit a barn door and was offloaded to Sheffield Utd. It was McAvennie that made him. Once Macca left he was not the same player.
Davie Provan is another one to an extent, sometimes some of his points are valid. I think Davie called it wrong when he was trying to make the big brakethrough at Sky when he went on the campaign against Kenny Dalglish along with Keevins. I would assume Davie and TB are good friends but i'm sure TB must have wondered ow he has changed over the years and the person he is starting to become.
As i said i don't mind constructive criticism but sometimes rather than think about their ego they should have some sort of respect to their former club that provided them with such comfortable lifetyle they lead today. Provan in particular considering Dalglish brought his Liverpol team up to play in his testiomonal.
I'm not advocating they go down the line as Johnstone and Hateley but some sort respect should be showing to us.
Radio Clyde has detoriated badly since they lost the rights to broadcast live games. Never been the same since they lost the live games.
Bringing in the likes of Walker, Derek Ferguson, Hugh Dallas has spoilt what used to be a no bad listen.
Bring back Cooney with Johnston and relegate Pedro back to reporting at grounds as well. It needs a clear out. Get it back to the tried and trusted.
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Garygallespie, @20.22,
Re Cyrll Horne,
I met Cyrll once at a Celtic night I ran in Christ The King Holytown, in the mid seventies.
He and Billy McNeil were the panellists and Cyrll, while I would not say he was a rabid Celtic Supporter, was very enthuastic about our team and club.
He loved what we had achieved in Lisbon and regretted our failure in Milan.
He acknowledged our 9 in a row and supporeted us as the out and out best team of that time.
He spoke highly of our achievements praising our players and club, and I was certainly impressed with his, what I thought was, total respect for Celtic Football Club.
He either had just retired or retired soon after that night.
I remember feeling a tinge of sadness when he died.
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin
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Off topic but did anyone else pick up on the news story that the Manchester super casino has been bombed out by the government in favour of a larger number of smaller casinos?
Is this a lifeline for Sir Minty?
On topic - we shouldn't ask for a postponement. Two wrongs never did make a right and there is no doubt that the whole sorry corrupt tale of the Rangers v Gretna postponement was well out of order.
I see that an earlier poster wrote that it did Rangers no good against Lyon - but I would point out that it certainly did them no harm against Gretna and Hearts.
We are better than that...
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Clydes never been the same since Chick Young jumped ship and joined the BBC.
God this gears good.....
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Martin surname - common in England and Ireland.
Don't think that makes it Irish sounding.
38th most common name in Ireland.
Hans - I do believe you should apologise.
Kojo, as to agreeing with your submission. Well I don't know - or care why the gentleman changed his name. In that I agree with you. After all - as you so correctly put it - "what ever the changer has in mind is none of anyone else's business"
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Paul67,
Tell PL to watch Keevins. I get the impresssion that he's wanting GS to take the bait and react like Kenny Dalglish did and ban him from press conferences, so he can play the innocent card, the i'm only doing my job, how hard done by he's been and it's terrible that Gordon has taken this action.
I think Gordon though is to smart for these antics.
To all Celtic fans slagging our manager in the way he conducts himself to the media in this country. The article Peter Martin has written and many articles written by the laptop loyal should be the answer.
Get behind and unoite against these shoddy people that call themselves journalists. I call them muck.
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WGS
I also seem to remember Provan saying after a Celtic v FOD game at Celtic Park that MON was certain to leave Celtic by Christmas. He was strident about it, to the point of almost being insulting to suppporters who dared to disagree.
Needless to say, Martin was there after Christmas and for a good while after that.
That was enough of DP to make me feel that he was no longer the great celt people made him out to be but had taken the 30 pieces like so many others.
Cant remember the game but I know it was before the Seville season.
Dont know if you, Terry or some of the others might remember hearing it.
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Martin 42,
Thanks for that. That was the impression I got from reading his comments on issues like the Cox/Tully fiasco, The Flag debate and his report of the 7-1 game.
I imagine that his writings must have been even more out of step with public opinion then than it would be now. He at least seems to have stuck to his guns rather than changing with the wind.
Contrast with Ian Archer in the Herald after the Aston Villa riot "this country would be a better place if Rangers did not exist" to the Daily Ranger (or was it the ET) article after Le Merde when he said "We can all be Rankers supporters now"
Or James Traynor, thrown out by the Beast when writing for the Herald and then becoming very much pro them when he became a Daily Record man.
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Martin 42,
Thanks for that. That was the impression I got from reading his comments on issues like the Cox/Tully fiasco, The Flag debate and his report of the 7-1 game.
I imagine that his writings must have been even more out of step with public opinion then than it would be now. He at least seems to have stuck to his guns rather than changing with the wind.
Contrast with Ian Archer in the Herald after the Aston Villa riot "this country would be a better place if Rangers did not exist" to the Daily Ranger (or was it the ET) article after Le Merde when he said "We can all be Rankers supporters now"
Or James Traynor, thrown out by the Beast when writing for the Herald and then becoming very much pro them when he became a Daily Record man.
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GaryGillespieHamstring,
Remember it well.
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Kilbowiecelt, Han,
On behalf of the other custodians of a fine catholic (universal) and Irish surname, I thank you for your staunch support.
Lurgan,
You were saying?
Rangers are no longer appealing.
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My dear,friend.... Fan-a-tic...21.55
I shall do my utmost to make this submission, from me....
As Crystal Clear as I can.
Although, on re-reading my former one, on this very subject...I cannot agree with your purported difficulty in comprehending the context, therein.
I say...
Scott Brown is not performing his allotted task in a satisfactory manner.
He is not pulling his weight...
He is paying more attention to being as obstreperous and contentious, towards the Referee and his decisions,than concentrating on his task.
He is also becoming more and more guilty, of making... Late and Ridiculous Tackles, on his Opponents...leading to occasionally a very cheap Yellow Card, which, of course...and understandably does, lead to his aformentioned highly contested decisions by the Umpire,in which Scott ,inevitably, vociferously finds fault.
Indeed, he is indulging in a circle of Resentment... thereby, compounding his miseries.
The upshot, being...
Scott is on very thin Ice, the REST, OF THE GAME....
The above described state of affairs are not conducive to Scott being able to perform up, to his accepted ability...as he is under
...THE GUN...or to put it PLAINLY... he is in danger of receiving another Yellow... and surely, I do not need to explain what that reception would entail.
This kind of pressure has come about, strictly as the result of his and only his...OWN FAULT!
Meanwhile, back at the Ranch...
His Yellows and piling up.... and predictably ,he has now been barred from a very IMPORTANT GAME!
Are you following all of this...?
Good!
I have no knowledge,whatsoever of the Technical side of Soccer....
I am like the undertaker in that respect.
I do not know how the person died... I have no interest in how he died...
The only thing I am certain of ...is that he is a corpse.
Likewise...
In my capacity as a Spectator...
I do not know EXACTLY WHY, Scott is under- performing...
I can hazard a Guess... and of which, I have already given...
But, I cannot give a concrete reason...as to his recent very serious loss of form.
However.
I know, THAT HE IS UNDER PERFORMING!
Scott Brown is not Performing as he should..as I have come to expect of him....in short....
HE IS PLAYING BADLY!
Is that clear enough....?
Under my credo....
"What have you done for me,lately... Scott?"
His answer is
"Not, Much!"
Ergo...
If the wine is not good....
Throw it out!
Kojo.
yer pal....who hopes you comprehend ALL, of my communication...this time.
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WGS At 22:27,
Davie Provan's testimonial was against Nottingham Forest.
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Tobi,
I retract my statement if it was Nottinghm Forest. Apologies if i was wrong!!
You get my drift though?
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Bobby Russell
"This gear's good"
Did you buy a new car?
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Kojo
Will any of you fellows be in the Crown and Anchor, Las Vegas, for the Celtic-Barcelona game?
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Gary,
I was brought up reading the likes of Alan Heron and Jack Harkness. by the time I reached my twenties, I was becoming a bit more selective.
Harkness would hardly write the word Celtic, and would never praise our club.
He worked for a paper that had a very distinct Anti-Catholic policy.
By the time Radio Clyde came along, Big Jock had his on air fight with the "Kirkcaldy Yank", Richard Park and after that I had a distrust of all media.
What is happening just now at Clyde is not new, it is just more blatant.
Thirty years ago, the media had no Celtic men therefore we expected nothing from them.
Today there are Celtic men dotted around the media in general and they always fdisappoint us.
I fear for our great relationship with John Hartson.
Who would have thought that players like Nicholas, Burley, Provan and Walker would so often put the boot into us.
Nothing changes.
WE STAND ALONE, AND SIDE BY SIDE.
Martin.
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Kojo last and previous post on Brown I understood.Its some of your others lose me by the second sentence.
Think your a little harsh on SB.
Watch our formation in next game and you will see him and his partner are left with to much space to cover.
He can be reckless but thats youthful exuberance.
fan-a-tic who mostly enjoys your ramblings.
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Curly, “2472”?
WGS, I think you have hit the nail on the head regarding PL, and he does not need to be told to watch that particular situation.
Hmmmmm.
But remember:
And I have heard this first hand from more than one of the objects of the collective derision:
“Rule No. 1, don’t give a *!*!*”
Can be heard at any give media gathering any given week. Right, wrong, popular, unpopular? Who cares? They certainly don’t, just keep tuning in.
I am not pulling your leg with the above quote, that is the mantra when the slings and arrows are flying.
Martin42, I would put money on John Hartson remaining a breath of fresh air when talking about Celtic.
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Paul67,
I fervently hope you are right,
Martin.
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Two crystal clear reasons why Celtic should request the postponement of the game at Easter Road.
1. If Celtic are still in the tie we will require an enormous workrate from every single player to have any chance of overcoming Barca, quite possibly 120 minutes of enormous workrate. Playing Hibs at Easter Road on Saturday (our 3rd game in 6 days) gives our players only 2 days rest (Sunday and Monday), one of which will be for travelling to Barcelona, before taking to the Nou Camp on Tuesday evening.
2. It's important that a level playing field exists and is seen to exist. My personal view is that Celtic have on many, many occasions been shooting up the hill. Those who lean and bow to favour our rivals must be made to squirm. If we make it easy for them they will continue to lean and bow. We must make them treat us even handedly or expose them for failing to do so.
Request the postponement for the short term benefit of Celtic and the long term benefit of Celtic. If the request is declined we may benefit by a similar on field reaction to the one we seen at Ibrox following the Boavista UEFA semi final.
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paul67......does the collective press pack only not give a !*!* about the reaction of Celtic and our support.....do they have any similiar feelings when it comes to rangers.....or does the winalot principal quell their instincts in that area....
as a follow up....if PL operated similair winalot policies, would we see a change in coverage
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My dear,dear,dear, Friend...
Celtic_First.
I am afraid not.
We shall be coming over to see the game at Parkhead...Feb.20th 2008.
Also, we will be going to Barcelona, on Mar,4th. 2008.
We are looking forward to soaking up that intoxicating, "Just Celtic"... ambient atmosphere...at Celic Park, we cannot get enough of it.
If it could only be bottled!
Kojo.
yer pal....who likes ye.
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Re media: You wonder at what point their ego takes over and the only thing that matters is them not football clubs getting the publicity.
As for MArtin if there is a more annoying commentator in the game than his guy I've not heard him. He is simply the worst.
I would go against most on here and say compared to other ex-Celts Craig Burley is not too bad. He has a go at everyone when they have a poor game. I don't think he singles Celtic out unlike others.
Quietly (since it's 12 and no one will be on) I admire Johnstone for defending the undefensible, at all times. In stark contrast to the Celtic boot boys.
John Hartson is a wealthy young man with Celtic very much at heart he didn't pander to anyone on the park. I don't expect he will off it either, especially in regards to Celtic.
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Kojo
Given the choice, I'd have gone for those options too.
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jimtim
Re your question last night - let me know if you need XP?
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wg
Where would one come across the Love tee?
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My dear,dear, friend, Fan-a-tic...
You are correct.
Undoubtedly,in my criticism of Scott, I am being harsh, and it is by intention.
There is not much that galls me more, than a person not living up to his/her potential....
It is way up there in my frustration Scale...right beside the number, where my irritation becomes furiously fanned, whenever my 2 minute Egg actually tastes, like a 3 minute one!
It's always is the case... Richt?
Harsh?...no harsh enough,pal!
He needs a good old-fashioned "talking to"... which I believe has possibly, already occurred.
But so far, that "talking to", has had no visible effect on his displeasing on field antics.
There again...if that reproval has actually taken place....it increases my displeasure with him, even further.
In my book ... he is being a recalcitrant child.
He needs to be reproved,in the full meaning of the woid, for his lack of response to advice.
Kojo.
yer pal...who likes ye...but I sense ye are of a kind and forgiving nature....
I hate... "kind and forgiving natures!"
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possilbhoy
One of the most annoying things in life is waiting in the bus park for an hour after the game with RC on.
Why anyone would choose to listen to what these people have to say about football is beyond me.
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I’m a little torn on the do we/don’t we test the mettle debate. It strikes me as a chance to either confirm or re-confirm our paranoia about the powers-that-be. As one of the earlier posters said, let’s save that particular dilemma for the semi-final....
On a separate note...
I don’t go to away games (at least I didn’t – every game is an away game for me now). But on Wednesday night I met with some guys that made me realise (once again) what this special thing that we all share was.
After a few false starts and an initial mix up on the night (on my part I might add) I was welcomed in to their company and reminded about what Celtic fans do best – they enjoy. We had “met” via CQN and e-mail, and for me at least, the initial face to face is always the hardest part. But I needn’t have worried. Soon I was part of the conversation, part of the laughter, and it felt like a little bit of home. In fact, if it had been raining.....
Just when I’m forgetting what a thing we have here, someone gives me a little jolt.
My belated good wishes go out to those who have recently lost loved ones. I can assure you I had a good thought for you and your respective families. I know the strength I took from the good wishes I received in my own time of sorrow.
Hail Hail and remember, "with Celtic, you never walk alone"
G.
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Kevtic
I find myself guilty of this sometimes.I think it's some sort of perverted sickness that we have deep,deep,deep inside us.
I take the car to games,so i have the luxury of putting a C.D. on but invariably listen to these plonkers.
Why oh why oh why.
Hail Hail
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Kojo,
could it be that the boy SB has been used to being told, go out there and do your stuff, at the feeder club, but is now being told what where and when that stuff he has to do, and its a bit much for him. I think a wee bit of patience is required, that we would expect the trainer of a young stallion would need to bring on a highly spirited sport machine.
or maybe no eh.
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Kojo only kind and forgiving to Celtic and even then selective.
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Looks like we have a lot to live up to in Barcelona-
part 1
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My dear,dear, Possilbhoy...
You posed the question...here is my answer...
You listen to the UNJUSTIFIED ANTI- CELTIC spiels... because you .....
LUV IT!
Which begs another question..
Why?
You LUV IT,because it gives you the chance to Deny it!
And feel Justified in condemning their UNJUSTIFIED...assertions!
And nothing feels bettah than knowing that their accusations are UNJUSTIFED!
In short, you are now in the full throes of JUSTIFIABLE WRATH!
Not a bad spot to be,pal~
Right away... It puts you...right smack on the side of THE ANGELS~!
And what could be bettah place to be, than that?
It is the old cause and effect,syndrome.
And why do these Sleekit Commentators, proceed to always direct their UNJUSTIFIED CRITICISM at your beloved Celtic?
Because, they are very well aware of the reason that I have just given to you,on how it duly affect s you! And they shall keep on doing what they are doing...playing the same old song... because...
It induces INTEREST... HATRED is probably a better Woid...
However, what ever you want to call it...
Bottom Line...
It SPELLS in the long run...
RATINGS! RATINGS! and More RATINGS!
They have the Perfect combination woiking for them...
LUV AND HATE!
How can ye top that!
Kojo.
yer pal.. who guesses that you knew all o' that Psychological stuff, already!
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My dear friend, Canamalar....
I have to run... Diane has just entered the Building...
Sir Paul knows who she is....
Get back to you tomorrow...
G'devenin'
Kojo.
yer pal...who thinks yer swell.!
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Kojo
Cheers for that.You are right in saying that i knew all that psychological stuff,ratings for them,etc but i still want to drive over to Clydebank & punch their flaming lights out.
As i stated previously,if someone actually believes in what they are saying,then fair enough but these halfwits say things for shock value.This is the reason i don't phone in as i do not wish to let them know i'm even listening to them,if you get my meaning. Maybe you wont as i may have come accross wrongly from what i was actually thinking.I blame this on the time of the day since i've been up since 0520hr yesterday.
Sorry for the rant.These painkillers i'm on are working a treat just now.
Hail Hail
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Possilbhoy their lights may be on but I can assure you nobody,s home.
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Paul67
Test them?
.....Why?
What is under discussion is not a hypothetical.
It is a fact we all know.
I would never test the idea of gravity by jumping out my window. I know all the consequences .....
Yes we have a tight schedule and the odds will against us. That is what we are and always have been about. That to me is the Essence of The Celtic Way.
On a similiar note...
possilbhoy and Kojo...with respect to listening to Scottish fitba punditry and its Demographic Determinism...
I have two songs on the topic for the night shift.
This
and of course
this one too
PJ who is going to see The Jam (minus Paul Weller but plus Hugh Cornwell) this Saturday night....
The Establishment? Rangers? The Media?
Roll On Over Them......
The Sweetest Way Possible....
And I Believe We Will.
I believe the next three months are going to be So Sweet... I will NEED to tune into the pundits....
For That Will Indeed Be Entertainment.
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Just checking out the site.
All is secure and the posters can sleep peacefully.
Where is Noel90 these days?
Is he in a self imposed or self indulgent exile?
No postponement request for me.
This season is about winning the SPL and CL progression is secondary.
I see Rangers are considering fielding Cousin this weekend to ready him for a possible appearance in the UEFA tie.
What kind of complications does this produce in their appeal to have FIFA enable them to get shot of the striker to failing Fulham?
Are they just going to make the decision easier for the authorities?
5am and all's well.
'GG
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Working?
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Morning ghuys and ghals -
short Hitchcock post on Celticdelia (cheers Paul)
FTD
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Well what the hell. Have been reading this for the longest time and finally decided to post.
Would love to see a postponement and I know that most of you think this will be a bad thing. But........ Regardless of the recent past. (take Rankers out of your mind)Have teams benefited from a break in the past? Why are we even talking about it?
Do you work better when you are rested?
Really?????? Anyone who says they dont has never reeeeeaaaaaallllly worked!!!!
Flak Jaccket?
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Piston suggest you delete your comment for language violation......
Hail Hail
SPC
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SingCelt- are you going to be in Singapore April/May? The Bhoy is heading that way en route to Oz and will want to see the denouement of the season.
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Barcabhoy, I should say that not everyone in the media baits football fans, but those who do, know how to handle the come-back. I don’t think the winalot principle would work at Celtic.
Welcome PistonBroke(but still mad celtic), totally agree.
Your second comment has been deleted; language violation.
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Paul67,
Is our club doing anything to combat the offending media? What would you do? I still think the press conferences should be shown on the club website for all and we can see the spin put on comments. I think we should spend more time with the objective media and ignore (not ban)the worst offenders. I think the club should see the value of the unofficial websites as they have a large following.
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SingCelt
Did you manage to contact any Cape Town Celts?
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dontbrattbackinanger I will be in Glasgow on April 1st, NO JOKE!! :) and will be back in Singapore on 9th April so yeah I should be around... Drop me a mail with his details john_the_wayne@hotmail.com and I shall ensure he see's the game and also a few other things :)
Hail Hail
SPC
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i take kojo"s point of the media baiting us,but how do we respond.,do we stay quite and say nothing,,ignore there pathetic anti celtic agenda
We respond out of love ,because if you hurt celtic its like someone hurting your own family thats why we we come to there aid by phoning in ,emailing the slanderers,in our attempt to rectify an ongoing assualt on our club,its a natural reaction ,a defence mechanism ,it may not give us the desired results
but to do nothing is not an option
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Hi Patrick,
I have been tied up with office however I do plan a call today and hopefully meet over the weekend!
Problem being I dont drive and not got my bearings yet.... :)
Hail Hail
SPC
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SingCelt- cheers for that,much appreciated. Will you be in town for the game against them on 29th Mar, or the Mothers on April 5th?
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While the Barca game is important and it would be beneficial for a postponement, I would be concerned that this has a negative impact on us in the league.
I think more importance should be placed on sorting out league fixtures, especially with the possibility of playing Rangers twice in March.
It is more important to win these games than it is the Barca game. To that end, I would sacrifice playing three games in six days before the barca match in order to play one or two games in the week before each rangers game.
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Very good point Paul.
It's time that we minded ourselves, rather than pander to the SPL's needs.
However remember Boavista and Ibrox?
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McManus
They are street peddlers, screaming louder and louder to attract the public's attention, but becoming ever more of an annoyance because, apart from tat, they have nothing to offer.
Any media outlet that has no real content, or no substance to its content, will cease trading in the second decade of this century.
There is a race to the bottom among the Scottish football media. I would be worried for them but for two things.
1. It's their own fault for determining to offer people sizzle instead of steak.
2. I will not miss them, and I'm sure I'm not alone, because it is now years since I learned ANYTHING about the club I love from a source other than CQN.
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Big problems with my computer this morning. Don't know why.
But before it collapses again, I just wanted to say that my Dad used to have a lot of time for Cyril Horne. He used to be a regular at his supporters club functions.
The only others who have given us a fair crack of the whip are Ian Archer Graeme Spiers and Glen Gibbons, in Scotland. Hugh McIlvanney used to wax eloquent in the Observer, especilly during Big Jock's tenure. But the best bit of punditry I recall, (I think from a man named Greene) was in the Times about 1972, when we were invited down for Bobby Moore's testimonial. He advised his readers to go and watch us to see how football should be played.
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McManus69, our man does see the value in the unofficial sites; he and his PR team have been a revelation in new-media management.
They are involved in a constant battle over the negative angles the club is portrayed in, but it looks like trying to hold back the tide. As soon as Celtic put pressure on a media organisation they go into ‘we’re not here to be pushed around by the likes of you’ mode.
As loumacarisbettingslip said, ignore the offenders.
Where's the base of the Coronation Cup, good question. I don’t have it. Yes, of course I remember Boavista/Ibrox!
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Spot On Paul - the club have to look after themselves - whatever that takes
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parkheadcumsalford @ 10:01...
Sorry, just for the record, that Bobby Moore testimonial game was in 1970.
Celtic were fantastic that evening in a 3-3 draw.
The West Ham fans were great too.
Both teams played football the way it should be played.
One of the first appearances that evening for the blow up jinky dolls!
(The auld hauns will know what I mean)
We played in Bobby Charlton's testimonial in August 1972 (0-0)and won many friends that evening too.
Paul Wilson took the friendship thing a bit too far though when he seemed to miss an open goal!
Then of course, there was Jack Charlton's testimonial in 1973 (4-3 for the Celts).
Ron Yates in 1974 etc etc etc
I am afraid though the circus that was the Alan Shearer testimonial has left me thinking that these matches are now best avoided.
By all means play testimonials for deserving causes.
That would sit comfortably with what Celtic are all about.
These days testimonials for overpaid superstars?
Not for me.
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dontbrattbackinanger arrive Glesgae on 1st April so will be around or the game on 5 April.....
Hail Hail
SPC
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Gordon 10.38
Was at that 3-3 game and as you say it was a marvellous advert for the football purist. My abiding memory though was sitting in the main stand and only a few seats away sat Sean Connery and his two sons, all decked out in green and white scarves !!
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Is there anyone that posts on here from the Dundee area? im going to be spending the weekend of 14-16th march in dundee and im looking to head down to Fir park for the match. Im wanting to get get in contact with any supporters clubs in the area that would have a bus running to the game? or if anyone would know of public transport from dundee to motherwell.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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SingCelt- I know from your previous posts it's not something you approve of but perhaps you could be persuaded to go for a beer?
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Just a couple of random thoughts.
Perhaps we should ask Hearts if we should can the game on 16th Feb, to allow us to concentrate on the Wed fixture against Barca.
Or in light of our priorities and the unique nature of our club, perhaps we should ask Barca to postpone one or both of our CL matches to allow us to fully focus on the SPL encounter against St Mirren or the Cup sortie against Aberdeen.
Hearts and/or Barca would surely empathise!
As I said, just a couple of random Friday morning thoughts!
Hail hail
Estadio
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Irving,
I can tell you that there is no public bus or train services from Dundee to Motherwell.
By bus you would need to go to Glasgow then Motherwell.
By train to Edinburgh and then on to Motherwell.
Hope you get sorted out with a supporters bus.
Cheers,
Martin.
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Cheers Martin. Dont fancy the idea of bus or train with it being an early kick off, will try to get a supporters club bus, I lived in dundee years back and I know of buses that travels from lochee and hillhead in dundee but dont know the name of the supporters clubs. Hopefully get something sorted.
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dontbrattbackinanger, how dare you discuss alcohol on this blog, you know very well I do not touch the stuff!! :)
Yeah mate sounds good.....
Hail Hail
SPC
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A couple of points on the media. Firstly all press conferences should be broadcast on Ch67 and Celtic TV. At the press conferences all contributors should be required to identify themselves before their questions are answered. I have organised and held press conferences myself and have witnessed many more and this is common practice. Listen to any broadcast on the news and you will hear this.
Secondly is there nothing that can be done about the press plagiarising the weekly output from the Celtic View. Every Wednesday morning you can see, in for example Hugh Keevins' article, whole sections which have been lifted word for word from that day's View. Bad enough in itself but there is never any reference to the source. Are there no copyright issues or evn conventions to be observed here?
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Irving W
This may help.
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ELLEN SHANNONS BAR, HIGH ST, LOCHEE
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Hail hail
Estadio
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Celtic_First,
Your comments are completely off the mark. It is completely misguided to think that one of the main champions in the Murdoch empire will disappear.
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Tobi -
Give a guy a break... .92 top league teams in the UK.
I could have asked who out of the 42,000 football clubs in the UK, but that would have just been silly.
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Wee Gordon Strachan
The source of that thing about media outlets disappearing if they couldn't sort their content out?
His first name's Rupert.
Andycolo
With regard to lifting copy from somewhere else, it's pretty standard practice to regurgitate narrative, but if quotes are involved, people usually credit the source and it's a poor show if Keevins does not do this.
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andycolo,
I have often thought about this aswell particulary stuff appearing in the papers lifted directly from either the Celtic View or Celtic TV without any accreditation to the original source.
I also agree that the entire press conferences should be available either online or on Celtic TV so that Celtic fans can watch it and get a true feel for what goes on rather than just the snippets. Journos should be required to say who they are and where they are from.
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Bazzabhoy
Not meaning to be pedantic but its actually 92 top league teams in England.
If you include Scotland (42), Wales (18) and NI (16) the number is 168.
PedanticCSC
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Cetic_First,
I don't understand your point now. Using a paraphrased quote from Murdoch, you say that the Scottish Football Media will disappear sometime soon?
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Wee Gordon Strachan
Yes, except the ones that offer proper content.
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Estadio. Been off line for a few days sorry never acknowledged your earlier reply. Great to hear of the Return of the Fanseni
Mag7 Congratulations to all
Now to go back a few pages and catch up.
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If it is in the best interests of Celtic to ask for a postponement then we should do it. Forget about what anyone else says. We don't care they don't like us anyway.
Is it in our best interests? Yes, so we should end of story. Anything less is letting us be bullied by the establishment again.
What happens next year if Rangers ask again and are allowed. We would maybe get the bottle to complain and be hit with you never asked last year. Pschylogoy plays a big part in organizations like this and we should let them know who we are.
And as some have already pointed out Rangers postponement of their game v Gretna did not benefit Scottish Football it benefitted Rangers' chances of winning the title. (They could have played a reserve team against Gretna and it wouldn't have affected their chances in Europe).
Ask for the postponement as it will benefit Celtic. End of story. If they knock us back their actions will be able to be used in our favour some time in the future if we wish to do so and will therefore benefit Celtic at some point in the future.
If they say yes we benefit. I cannot see any positives in not requesting it. Because we're better than that is the best we can come up with. Rubbish. That is the voice of weakness.
The other reason is that we should have a decent enough squad. More rubbish. If we lose to Barca and Hibs and lose the league this year will you be happy to sit in May and say it was the right decision as we should have had a decent squad. Rubbish. Winning the league is a must this year.
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WHAT is time management??
Silly question but would like to know other peoples thoughts as I am exhausted by trying to implement this to ppl that obviously do not understand!!
Sigh......
Hail Hail
SPCwhoisfrustrated
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Sing Celt- the most important part of time management is learning how to say 'No'.
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How do you train the un-trainable!!
Oh ok.... I will go onto follow follow :P
Hail Hail
SPC
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Just been checking upcoming midweek fixtures.
midweek 12-13-14 feb huns in uefa cup.
midweek 19-20-21 feb huns in uefa cup celts v barca.
midweek 26-27 feb spl fixtures.
midweek 4-5 march celts v barca.
midweek 11-12 march uefa cup (if the huns go thrugh ).
midweek 18-19 possible cup replays.
midweek 25-26 mar scotland v croatia.
So if the huns go through to next rd of uefa cup and we are involved in a cup replay were in march are looking to play re- arranged O/F game ? Would we then looking a date in April for game ?
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Celtic_First,
When you are referencing 'Scottish Football Media' are you including the Sun in it?
This is what I don't understand:
You are using a Murdoch quote to say that print media is doomed. But the Sun is part of the Scottish Football Media and by all accounts, offers much the same, if not exactly the same content of its other tabloid competition.
I don't think we will see the Sun drop off the face of the Earth anytime soon. To be honest, print media as a whole wont die either, it will just evolve.
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Parkheadcumsalford.
Remember that game well. 3 - 3 draw and it was wonderful. Only black spot was that Sean Connery was in attendance supporting us of course. That was beore he supped at the devil's table and went with the bad guys.
On another point. Apologies to all the Martins. Hard to believe but I may have been incorrect.
Only slightly of course.
Be safe.
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Celtic First
Live broadcasts of football matches on radio and TV were supposed to kill print media. It didn't.
Internet is supposed to do the same. But it won't.
Print media is now trying to work out how to make money from the web.
As long is there is an advertising market, the print media will continue.
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Big Joe’s BACK……………………………….
BACK again………………………………………..
Big Joe’s back…………………………………..
Big Joe’s back…………………………………..
Big Joe’s Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.
BigJoeWhosiBackinDAAAhouse
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I wonder where Big Joe is these days....? He seems very quiet....
Hail Hail
SPCwhoiscurious:)
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BAN THE KEEVINS 1!!
BAN THE MAGUIRE 1!!
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Mort - :o(
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Wee Gordon Strachan
I didn't limit it to print media because Murdoch didn't.
Of course it includes The Sun and all his other titles. The main point is the one you make at the end.
It's a tough enough market for all these products now. They are suffering losses in readership numbers that they will, without question, be unable to sustain for another decade. Therefore, they must adapt or die.
There will be winners and losers. I interpret Murdoch to be saying that the winners will be the ones that offer what the public wants.
That's not to suggest all of the public wants the same thing. That was never true and is less true now than ever (I believe it's called segmentation in marketing circles).
It could be there will still be a market for tabloids, although I hope not, that look to provoke (they would say entertain) rather than inform. It could be some people will still buy into that.
What cannot continue for much longer is the made-up garbage and the soi-disant 'personality'-driven rants, as though no issue could be closed before we all learn what Chic Young, Jim Traynor or Peter Martin thinks about it. That cannot continue because what those three and all the others think about Daniel Cousin's putative move to Fulham, who did better in the transfer window et cetera is utterly worthless.
And when they make stuff up ('Thugs and Thieves' and all that), Dermot Desmond or John J Fisher could have a case in law against them for harming their investment and completely take them to the cleaners.
A decade is a long time.
I'll happily meet you back here in 2018 to discuss how it pans out.
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Inkybhoy
See above. I never said there would be no print media. I said media products that offer no worthwhile content would die.
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In amongst the usual junk in my junk mail is an item offering to flog me' darnel VIAGgRRA'.
This must be a special blue pill for Bluenosers suffering from post-window tristesse and feelings of inadequacy.
Maybe Sir David has built a shed at Mintpark and in between mixing the Winalot he has a motley crew of boffins mixing the darnel- Viagra in a big pot before slipping it into Weary Dave's cocoa to see if it has any effect.
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Paul67, Do you have an e-mail address?
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On the subject of dodgy media, the 'story' that was on the Setanta website the other day, about Skoosh Brown planning on a move to the EPL in the summer for a couple of years, then back up the road to play for the dark side, does anyone think there is any substance to this?
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Have not posted much lately due to work commitments.
Did I miss a meeja story or comment on a phone in or are we just talking meeja in general.
BFwhowantstoknowwhatallthefussisaboutCSC
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Afternoon all, anyone know of a spare ticket for Sunady?
Hail Hail
aberdeenbasedtimCSC
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I've heard many on here talk about "the daily hun" website so I thought I would have a look.
I typed in the three words into google search. Care to guess which website appeared at the top of the list?
Hail Hail
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Newsletter
Was it the homepage of the St Vincent De Paul society?
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On the should we-shouldn't we issue of asking for a postponement, Gordon Strachan will decide, in what will be the best interests of Celtic retaining the title. Nothing else will come into his deliberations.
No thought of "testing" the SPL or showing how tough we are will come into it. It will be a totally pragmatic decision and football politics will not feature in his decision.
The title is the be all and end all of his ambitions this season. Anything else is a bonus.
Lurgan53,
Graciously accepted in the manner in which it was issued.
TTT (O'Mhairtín CSC)
PS.
If we have to refer to the backsliding broadcaster, can we not always call him by his given name, out of respect to his family?
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DBBIA just on for a second or 2 ?????
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Singaporecelt………………………………..
Or should it be tablemountaincelt
You know me……………………………………….
Never been known as QUIET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway what’s the scoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooop
bigJoeWHOonlyJustGOTbackIN1peeeeeeeeeeece
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Big Joe,
Good to have you back..... How Lagos? Did you find Mr. 90 there by any chance?? He has gone AWOL.........
The scoop is going on the lash tonite and doing Table mountain the morra, should be fun..... NOT!!!!
What you thinking of the new signings......?
Hail Hail
SPCorshud
itbetable
mountaincelt?
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Singaporecelt………………………………..
Lagos is ……………………..well…………………
Lets say……………………different……………………….
I have it on very good source that Mr 90
Or as he is known, in other circles……………………..
“ the numbered 1 “ has indeed bee abducted by aliens.
But don’t tell anyone………………………………..OK
BigjoeWHOisHavingAveryVERYveryLATEburnsNIGHT2night
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Big Joe,
I can well imagine....!
Your secret is safe with me.....
If anyone is asking about my whereabouts...... Don't tell them I am in South Africa ok...... Its a secret.......... Cheers big yin....
Enjoy your Burns night!
I shall be on the Peroni Nastro Azzuro for GBP1/- per pint :)
Hail Hail
confusedSPC
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new article posted.
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Singaporecelt………………………………..
Never have been 1 to gloat………………………..
over a first post meeeesel……………………………
: - )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
as for our new signings……………………………………..
I think we lost the league in the summer………………..
BigJoeWHOthinksWEhaveLETthemGETgood
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Itsallova.
I wanted to ask the same question. We all need to aware of the "meeja" but sometimes there's no smoke without fire. Skoosh's attitude and body language indicate something is wrong. Added to that are rumours I heard from a Glasgow source who indicated there was some substance to the rumours. I might add that as far as I can tell these particular rumours originated from a certain ex Rangers player who still has close connections in Glasgow now successfully plying his trade back in Italy.
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Paul…………………………………………………………67
I have it from a VERY good source………………….
That you have been stomping……………….
On my OLD stomping ground……………………………….
Campbeltown……………………………………………………………..
OK,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Paul, what were U up 2
Its not the same without ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bigJoeWhoMISSEStheWeeeeeeTooooon
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Celtic_First,
The point I am trying to make is that the Scottish Football Media is not doomed. It will not die or disappear over the coming years. It may change but the Sun, Record, etal will be around for a long while to come.
Opinion is a significant part, more so today, in almost every media outlet.
I buy the Guardian because it is a left leaning paper. I am interested in hearing the facts as they are presented. However, I value the opinion of their journalists, columnists and guests. Their opinion, along with my understanding of the situation help form my opinion on the issue in hand.
I don't think the opinion of those you cite are worthless. They are in a position where they have access to the inner circle of Scottish Football: players, managers and the other parts that make up the big merry-go-round of the SPL. This means, at times they have an insight into the game that I don't. It is that reason I want to hear their opinion.
I suppose it is understandable that you feel aggrieved that some of these journalists might have an agenda. But that is the same of any body, organisation or government. They all operate with an agenda.
I don't think it is any suprise to learn that journalists lie and media organizations manipulate stories.
It's up to you to separate fact from fiction or the black from the grey.
After all, some people still think it was justified to bomb Iraq. I wonder how many Sun readers supported it.
