 Friday, February 15, 2008
Celtic interim results, debt down and still profitable
Celtic released their interim accounts for the six months to 31 December 2007 this morning, with the headline figure showing a drop in turnover to £42.434m (2006: £46.796m), however this figure is largely explained by the club playing two fewer home games during the period, and the Uefa Champions League TV pot money for Scotland being shared with Rangers; last season Celtic were Scotland’s only Champions League entrants. We can anticipate two additional home games in the second half of the season, which will boost earnings by close to £2m. Debt is down, but still with us, at £6.81m (2006: £15.02m). Retained profit for the period fell to £10.066m (2006: £17.940), but the previous year’s figures were significantly influenced by the sale of Stilian Petrov, Ross Wallace and Stanislav Varga; last summer's player sales generated much less cash. The second half of the year traditionally brings a net loss for Celtic, despite a Champions League tie against Milan and the £1m sale of Shaun Maloney (the purchase of Paul Hartley will be amortised over the period of his contract), the second half of last year brought a £2.9m loss, so unless Barcelona are beaten again, we can expect a year-end profit figure close to £5m. Labels: Finance
78 Comments:
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will we record a loss if we beat Barcalona though?
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We'll beat Barca... again!
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Podium time!!
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Podium time!!
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Paul67,
Had a read at Interims at end of last thread. Mentions less home games 1st half of season then, there will be less home games in 2nd half of season.
Is this due to away Scottish Cup draws?
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Check out this report on our young starlet, the "blond Maradona".
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Paul67,
Just re-read again. "Less scheduled home matches", forgot about Champions League (3) & League Cup (1).
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Calton T,
FROM PREVIOUS THREAD
May have two spare myself.
Strange allocation this time.
Normally St Mirren is a ballot, but this time it was 1st come 1st served.
Could be last time we EVER play there as well and I also have a feeling in my whisky that it will be on that day that we hit the top of the league again.....never to relinquish it again.... for a thousand epochs......till the moon deserts the sky, till all the seas run dry, till then..... Till the rivers flow upstream
Till lovers cease to dream
Till then .....
Hail hail
Estadio
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Kitalba.
How are you.
Did you sit up to the wee small hours just to get a first.
Bet you'd love to be over here now,Hearts, then the big one,Barca.
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Estadio,
Don't know what the allocation was although we got four the last time as well.
Maybe see you outside Love Street and I'll join you in trying to punt the spares.
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More detailed analysis can be found in the full accounts:
Full Celtic Accounts Link
This details some possible adders:
TRANSFER FEES PAYABLE / RECEIVABLE
Under the terms of certain contracts in respect of the transfer of player
registrations, additional amounts will be payable/receivable by the Company if
specific future conditions are met. As at 31 December 2007 amounts in respect of
such contracts could result in an amount payable of £2.35m of which £0.89m could
arise within one year, and amounts receivable of £2.25m of which £1.40m could
arise within one year.
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estadio.
I notice that you may have two spare tickets for the St Mirren game,I could'nt get through to Cetic Park,and for some reason I could'nt buy them on-line.
So if their available,I'll buy them.
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CaltonTongues, no, it’s just the way the league schedule fell.
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Paul67 - Debt is at £6m. I am hopeless with this sort of thing.. but does it mean if we have another 12 months like the previous 12, we will be posting interm accounts with a balance showing money IN the bank?
McCurry is a Cheat.
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Paul67:
At the risk of appearing totally obtuse… If we retain a profit of 10+ Million and the outstanding debt sits at almost 7 Million - which attracts interest repayments of ????
As a club, would we not be better shoving the profit against the debt to clear it? Or is that really accounting from the book of Baldrick? To which, I no doubt subscribe with this question.
Oldtim67:
Hoping you are well as can be and all packed and ready for your ‘Biggest Night in the History of Celtic Trip’ (since Seville anyway). Actually, probably bigger than Seville in the beer vouchers department.
I was going to go to the napper early, then Danny posted on the previous thread so I thought I’d hang around and see what Paul67’s and the others, take on the numbers would be. I’ll hang around for a while yet.
I’ll take a 0-0 or better to us on the night and hope the Saints of Lost Causes are with us on our travels.
I just hope you, the intrepid Estadio, SMB, The Painter man, and all the others who are going on that particular pillage come away with just rewards.
I hope we knock the stuffing out of Barcelona in the nicest possible way. To say I am envious of you guys would be to lie. I’m as jealous as a Celtic supporter could ever be of his fellow supporters.
Have you managed to co-ordinated all to a Barcelona style BB’s early doors session?
Have sent you an e-mail.
It would be nice to take a few goals of Hearts too. Quite a few.
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Oldtim,
They're yours.
You will of course have to stand next to me!!
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Paul,
What can we expect the year-end profit figure to look like when we win the big cup? :-)
Martin 42,
I hope your mum recoves quickly now that she is receiving the correct treatment. Your story reminded me of a similar thing that happened with my son last year. He hurt his foot (still don't know how!?) and x-rays came back clear so he was dispatched without so much as a bandaid. TWO WEEKS later the hospital phoned our house to say they had re-examinned his x-ray (which they said was standard practice) and discovered he had THREE fractures in his foot! However they decided not to treat it as "it's been left too long now, and he's young anyway, so it'll heal itself quickly"
Thank god the medical people who dealt with him recently were not so inept! :-)
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Oldtim
If you get train through to Glasgow by 13.00 ish I'll drive you down to Paisley.
May even take you back for a pint in the fabled Sharkey's.
hail hail
Estadio
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I am not a gambling man, so I apologies if this does not make sense for either the punters or the bookies but I think it would be a way of tackling the problem indirectly and many making or loosing a bit of money and at least having some fun.
Solution
One Bookmaker keen on Celtic as a market, he allow bets of 15/1 Fergushun not to be red carded, 14/1 Fergushun booked.
Run these style bets for the entire Rangers squad, and for penalties and word will get around that we are betting on huns not getting booked the pressure will build if half the nation are talking about it and bookies will still make money.
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Paul67 said
...the purchase of Paul Hartley will be amortised over the period of his contract ....
What does amortised mean? :-p
PullingyoulegCsc
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Martin,
Best wishes on a speedy recovery for your mum.
I also have a friend in hospital who I feel has been given less than adequate care. We were in a car crash last year and sadly he is still suffering the after effects, although there finally looks as though there is end of the tunnel.
I say friend, but the word does not do the man justice....through his son, he managed to secure me 8 tickets for a wee Celtic game a few years ago, which enabled the Father Ted Bo'ness CSC to hit "The Road to Seville"
Memories....
Whooshman
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Kitalba.
I was at the most important game of my life,and managed to come home in one piece,so nothing fazes me now.
I'm looking forward to Barca,and meeting up with the motley crew,but it looks as if we will have to be on our best behaviour,because a certain lot of scum,have'nt a clue how to behave themselves.
I'll think of you when I have my first drink,then my second,and....
you know what I mean.
Footballs become enjoyable again,can't wait for the next game.
I'll have to send SMB an e-mail,or he'll think I've forgotten him.
Although I'll meet him in Barca,a week on Tuesday,and counting.
You'll notice that I'm sitting next to Estadio at the St Mirren game,The first time I met the both of you was at the Hearts game at Tyncastle,last year.
Estadio.
Do you smoke small cheroots,I done a favour for a pal of mine, and bought these mini cigars from him.
Theres a hundred in five tin boxes,you can have them,if your a smoker,If not,then anyone thats going to BBs to-morrow can have them,as long as their a smoker,a freebie.
They would have been ideal for you Kit, but your so far away.
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I was really struck by the difference in income just a few home games means. Surely this is a good reason for abandoning the stupid end-of season split as it potentially could mean a significant variance in income? (Significant enough to influence the purchase, or not, of a signing perhaps?) This is not to mention that control of how many home games, and their income, Celtic can rely on, and plan with, is now in the hands of the SPL and not Celtic.
Back to Football matters, I am looking forward with relish to thumping Hearts and to bettering Barcelona! :-)
Yours in Celtic,
Jim.
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If we beat Barca in Barca… won’t matter how far away we are in the southern hemisphere.
You’ll hear our bawling and screaming all the way back to Glasgow. Actually, if you look south hard and long enough, at the horizon’s edge you might just see, the odd clenched fist salute jabbing the heavens’ belly.
And for every one you guys drink in celebration – we’ll drink two.
Here’s hoping. Here’s really hoping.
p.s. Estadio likes two shakes of pepper in his Bovril
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Interims?
I remember standing in the jungle with the whole ground clapping and chanting about the interims.
Get interim!
Doof-doof doof-doof
Get interim!
gerinterim sellick!!
bringbacktheoldschoolchants csc
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Slightly off topic ;-)
But could anyone recommend a Glasgow City Center Restaurant or equivalent for nice grub on Saturday night? As I have a friend staying in the Central Hotel and he's asked for a few recommendations.
A few suggestions in the next hour would be most helpful as I'm away to work shortly.
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Big Liam
Nought wrong with BB's for a bit of nosh - that's if you don't mind the fiddlers.
Oh the Fiddlers are .....
Oh the Fiddlers are .....
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Estadio.
I'll be going with my mate to the game,It's handy for me,lifted from my door, and retuned to my door, you can't ask for better than that.
I could pick them up to-morrow,as I'm heading for BBs,or Tuesday,as I'm going to meet up with Zbyszek,to set his mind at rest,and give him the tickets for the game,so I can see you there,or I can meet you,where-ever,your choice.
I know that your not that keen on BBs,I usually get there for 11.45,so I have a spare 3/4hr before Babbity's,let me know what suits you.
I like BBs,but the company which is CQN,is gradually getting larger than what Babbity's can cope with,and when it gets full,it becomes hot,and a bit stiffling,which is not to my liking.
It's your choice Matt,I'll be game for anything.
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big liam
If your into fish (and fish on a saturday isn't to late:-).)
Could try this one. I was here for first time last week on a business dinner. Food and service was v good, might not be quite so good on a busy Saturday night, not to sure on prices as big boss paid.
Just about 100 yards up hill from central.
Phone number and menu (get an idea of prices from here) on web link.
http://www.mussel-inn.com/glasgow.asp
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Martin 42,
Your Mum’s situation must be infuriating. In a way, something like that happened to Dad, and that’s the main reason why I am making these extra trips home, to see how he and Mum are coping (as well as getting to games unexpectedly). If you want, I can pass on tomorrow what my brother researched on our case.
I’m enjoying the novelty of sending emails from the train, as I head up to see Dad! Free wi-fi on the new East Coast service. I’m worse than the kid sitting opposite me with the PS2.
Daveinpeterboroughstation.
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big liam,
The Italian Kitchen and the Italian Cafe in the Merchant City are both very nice. As is Qua (opposite the Italian Kitchen).
Also in the Merchant City, Cafe Gandolfi or Gandolfi Fish are both great. Daba is a good curry house on Candelriggs (I think). Maybe Albion Street...
Metropolitan in the Fruitmarket does good food, and has a smart-ish bar downstairs.
If your mate wants cheap pasta or pizza, Pulcinella in Hope Street is good.
There is a nice tapas bar in the Radisson on Argyle Street (near Central).
If he is feeling really flush, Rogano or Grill Room at 29 are tremendous, but pricey (both Royal Exchange Square).
The Pig and the Butterfly on Bath Street is cool, though a bit of an uphill walk from Central. Also in that vicinity Red Onion and Two Fat Ladies on Blythswood street are both good- maybe a bit pricey...
Finally there's always Jack McPhee (straight from the sea!) on Sauchiehall street, for the authentic Glasgow al fresco dining experience!
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Big Liam,
Sarti's on corner of Renfield Street is a good Italian Restaraunt
with good food although the service can be little slow at times.
regards
Ayrtim
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big liam
Has your mate been to Glasgow, and particularly the Central Hotel, before?
The Central Hotel (the one at Central Station) is included on lots of tourist web booking services etc but please note it can be manky. It is also used as a meeting place/pick up for escorts, and nothing to do with cars. I'm serious, my old dears twee friends came down to Galsgow from Dundee for a weekend and and got a real shock about both the standard of the hotel and what was going on around them.
Then again maybe your mates know exactly what thye're doing!!
If not you'd do well to warn them.
p.s. I have never been, you ain't seen me there.
nowhitahmeantriple-x CSC
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Bazzabhoy, yes, same again would leave us with money in the bank.
Kitalba, the debt figure is actually net debt, after profits have been banked.
StevieS, :-)
I like the way your mind works.
Panda Hands aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
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kitalba,
the saint you were lookingh for is St Jude, lost causes are my forte.
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Daveinlondon
Free WiFi on the train is a brilliant idea. Well done for taking advantage.
It amazes me how few businesses so far have cottoned on to the attraction of free WiFi, and don't get me started on the way hotels and airports rip people off.
Fergus McCann's bus service between New York and Boston offered free WiFi from the start, as well as many other great touches from the man of genius, which is why lots of travellers on that route vow they'll never go by train or plane again.
Hope your trip home goes well.
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McCurry gets Kilmarnock game:
When Mike McCurry blows his whistle at Rugby Park on Sunday he will have completed his sixth Rangers game of the season, more than double that of any other referee. That's not the interesting fact, although you may think that is interesting enough...
Of those 6 matches, 5 of them have been SPL matches. Nope, that's not it either.
Sunday's game will be Mike McCurry's 14th SPL game of the season, meaning that an incredible 35% of his SPL appointments have been Rangers. Yip, every 3rd SPL game is a Rangers game for Mike! Is it his last season or something?
And, if you haven't dozed off yet, having dished out a total of 40 yellow cards in his 13 SPL games so far, he gave Celtic players more yellow cards in that one match at Ibrox than he has given Rangers players in all of the SPL games combined.
When coupled to the fact that no player in the SPL has received more yellow cards than Aiden McGeady, that big brut of a hammer thrower, it does make you wonder when things will start to even themselves out. Doesn't it?
Aiden has received more yellow cards than Cuellar, Weir, Papac, Adam and Ferguson combined.
Celtic have had 37 SPL yellow cards in total.
Mike McCurry has issued 12 of them in 4 games. That means that 32% of our SPL cards have been issued by Mr McCurry in 17% of our games.
Or 30% of his cards have been issued against Celtic players.
p.s the other game was a cup game - remember the one where barry used his hand to score a goal
pps yes he was in charge when mcgregor fly kicked calum elliot
ppps yes he was in charge when Rangers scored on offside goal to beat DU
In the words of the great Matrin O'Neil
"we are going to have to be really good this year"
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There's an excellent curry house, the Dhabba, which is on or near Candleriggs. The tapas place opposite the Counting House is also very good value.
I know that mistakes have always been made in the NHS[ having made one or two myself!] but I also know what the NHS was like just after I qualified [in 1979] and what it is like now.
It's no longer a health, nor even a sickness service. It's the National Beancounting Service. Everything has a price; and all the things that had a value but which don't tick a box in someone's spreadsheet are being allowed to rust away.
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I once went to a Colin Montgomerie Book Launch in the Central Hotel! Anyway round the corner on Hope Street is La Lanterna, Andrea Pirlo's favourite Italian restuarant.
But if you really want to push the boat out there's a Blue Lagoon just outside Central Station. Best visited at 1 in the morning I'm told.
culturecsc
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What do you call the Mongolian Restaurant in Glasgow. I'm sure it was at Merchant City??
Anyway, something I noticed last week and haven't made mention, Scott McDonald ran his heart out against Aberdeen and scored 2 goals. I think we chanted his name for a whole 1 minute and that was it. Then as he was substiuted, we sang the name of the man replacing him, Samaras. A lad who has scored one goal and just joined us.
Just felt bad for Skippy, and hope he knows he's appreciated.
Another I thought about was wee McGeady. 2 of our biggest players, but without song, or even a real chant.
Aiden McGeady on the Wing???
(Hope that's not a slight on Jinky but comparisons have been getting made and offers of the No7 shirt?)
Just wondering if any of the Chant Guru's could come up with something for the lads to help make them seem more appreciated.
SoftInTheHead CSC
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re the dodgy ref debate, howzabout……….
compile stats on the refs performances from our games this season in the SPL,
list the stats in relation to how they have impacted on us, e.g. 9 yellow cards in one game from a particular ref
compile a wee league type table, e.g. 2 points for a booking, 3 points for a penalty against us, 4 points for denying us a stonewaller and so on,
the hard part, get the club involved,
Gordon then uses this information to comment on what he expects from a particular ref during his pre match interview,
chances are that by doing that the refs in our game would be put under the spotlight,
worst case scenario - the refs behave impeccably during the game and we end up with egg on our face,
however I would argue it’s a lot better to look foolish than allow them the opportunity to damage our efforts to win 3 in a row,
having said all that I agree, Gordon would almost certainly not want to get involved.
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Kitalba , paradise found , ItaliaBhoy , Ayrtim , BlantyreKev , DBBIA , thismancraig ,
Thank you very much for your recommendations , I've taken note and will pass them on. Much appreciated gentlemen , Cheers.
BlantyreKev ,
The guys usually stay there when its a quickly organised trip as a few Irish CSC's take up base there for their stay overs. They know the score , as long as they have a shower and a room to store their bags in , they're happy ;-0
(P.s. When our Good Ladies travel its the Crown Plaza (Moat house) on the Clyde , As only the best will do!)
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I await the negative spin that will undoubtedly be put on these results by the clowns on Clyde and the Winalot press.
Income down, profits down, the place must be in freefall.
I'll bet not much mention of debt being significantly down and despite income being down slightly still making a £10million profit.
To someone whose knowledge on these matters is limited (only an A in Higher Accountancy long lost from my head) the results seem more than decent.
It does show however how vital it is to reach the CL every year. Winning the title must be our primary objective at the start of every season. Anything else in Europe must be looked at as a bonus.
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Abmucker,
I think the restuarant you are referring to is "KUBLA KHAN"
Cheers,
Martin.
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Cheers Paul, I’m gash with numbers; Even worse with accounts. And with McCurry getting the Killie game... scrap my earlier tip.
My new tip 10/1 First goal will be scored from the penalty spot. Get on whilst you can.
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Porridgeandbannanas:
I wrote this earlier then I saw the Herald Headliner and I thought naw it’s just me, so I ditched this. Having read your post I took encouragement and hit the undo button a few times to bring it back. :-
Just been having a wee look at newsnow and reading the headlines. With the advent of CQN and its artful subscribers I find, unless I’m bored, I don’t often have to read beyond the headliners.
Anyway, I was just thinking, how long has it been since Celtic has been able to announce consecutive profitable returns. A long time I’d have thought. A cause for celebration, or optimism, in some quarters at least. Not in the Glad Sad Rags Headlines it’s not.
I know I’m overdue my nightly paranoia pills but am I really the only one who thinks the numbers are decent? (Irrespective of what is done with any surplus for the moment).
Is it really so hard for a rag to give a little credit where credit is due. After all, those figures are nothing less than the combined efforts of Celtic Football Club, Celtic PLC and every Celtic supporter who walks this earth. Every Celtic supporter - who as much as bought a Celtic View - contributed to those figures.
The only positive Headliner is…. Well you look.
The numbers might have dropped for some, but for me in my accounting ignorance, I think they reflect tremendous efforts by a tremendous club inclusive of all its elements.
Bugger it, I’m away to take my pills and I’m off newsnow for the rest of Lent. At least.
Cheers Paul I’m gash with numbers.
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Anyone who is interested may wish to note that 'T in the Park' tickets go on sale at 09.00 tomorrow.
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Martin42,
Thanks for that. Was wanting to point Big Liam to it as a place for a few folk to gather, fine food and reasonable prices which is pretty much all you can eat?
No takers on the Hymn Sheet?
Favourite Last week
Oh, Christian Dailly's nearly 40...
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kitalba
I took your advice and had a wee nosey at Newsnow and needless to say the spin is already being put on this.
I particularly liked the headline from 'The Scotsman', 'Celtic profits announcement: Parkhead Club report drop in income'. Not 'Celtic profits announcement: Parkhead Club report £10million profit'.
You are right though, everyone know matter in how small a way contribute to these figures. I hate June, Septmeber, October and November when I have to shell out for 3 season books each year but at the end of the day if I and 53,000 others like me didn't then where would we be and what standard of player would we be watching.
I would dread to think what it would be like with say only 30,000 season book holders and the rest picking and choosing their games and what it would do to our income. That to me is the biggest concern we may have in the next few years.
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TrueTim, excellent summary; I will maybe use some of that later.
Canamalar, deleted, language.
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Our interims are currently being disected by the astute financial analysts on FF. Some of them have picked up on the huge difference in valuations of the stadia and training complexes and the sound of pennies dropping can be heard.
Ok bhoys .... own up!
LFT
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Celtic_First,
and, just as you posted that, it went down!
But I agree about rip-offs (rips-off?). My last trip was in a great rush through Gate 5, T1 at LHR; really helpful to get a couple of e-mails off but 6 quid for the privilege.
Durham always looks spectacular from the train windae.
Daveinnorthumberland
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AbMucker - I think there are better places to eat than KK.
The best food is probably the Dhabba, not cheap but good value.
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Dave
It's a great journey all the way. You have come through Peterborough, where Mary Queen of Scots was buried, spectacular York and now Durham.
You still have the great cityscapes of Newcastle and Edinburgh to come before you get to see Celtic Park out of the right-hand-side on the approach to the Dear Green Place.
You're a lucky man.
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Paul67 - stolen from another site - all factual nonetheless.
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DBBIA
I would expect you are correct.
We ate in KK on a Stag weekend, food was fine, cheap enough, and seemed good if there were a few friends dining together (all about the ambience!)
Next time I'm in Glasgow for a bite I will maybe get some pointers as to where to take my good lady.
Indeed, if you come up to the Deen, or even happen to visit God's walled City of Derry Iwill be more than happy to give you a low down on the finest eateries.
McDonalds CSC
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If proof is needed... the top google search when typing Daily Rangers comes up with the Record....Contrast some of their headlines Aidan should "Quit Celtic & Become a Superstar" or "Celts suffer £7m drop in profits" vs "Rangers can triumph in Europe" and "JCD back for Rangers"
The daily express is even worse.
Stay Clear of the Rags loyal...
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Is it my imagination or do the BBC not like us? Yesterday it was 'Rangers drop out of rich list' not 'Great news for Scotland, we still have a team in the top 20 despite being a wee country'. Today a picture of Brian Quinn looking like Fraser from 'Dad's Army'. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7246786.stm
At least their headline is positive in that typical back-handed way 'Celtic slash debt but profits dip'. Should it be 'profits dip' or 'profit dips'?
Roll on 5pm.
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Paul67,
stats here:
http://www.soccerbase.com/refs2.sd?refid=231
not that I am saying that you wouldn't belive me ;-)
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Martin42/Paul67, I hope your mother/grandmother is now a lot more comfortable.
DBBIA, you mentioned qualifying in 1979. I remember your earlier post about other people (i.e. not you) frequenting the Arlington.Was that in medicine from Glasgow University? If so, you may well know a few friends of mine and Jinkyredstar who qualified in 79 or 80.
Unfortunately, I can't make the game tomorrow so won't be in BBs. I will be up on Wednesday. If anyone is going to be in BBs beforehand, please let me know.
John
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C_1st, I agree. Just pulling out of Newcastle. This side is much more interesting than the west coast route. Lindisfarne may also be glimpsed. Looking forward to the east Lothian sea views. I didn't know that you can see CP fro mthe train (certainly from the air, on approach to Abbotsinch) so I'll watch out.
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daveinlondon said "Just pulling out of Newcastle" ..words that Mike Ashley might wish he was uttering also
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Cad, yes,class of '79. Although I used to drink in the Halt Bar.
Is JRS a medic as well? Someone to have a good mump with about our current unhappy lot.
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Or as Cheryl might have it' just pulling out of Ashley'
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TMATCS:
I don’t know if it is the organisation itself that is to blame or just some of the no minds that have weaselled a job out of them, old school tie and extremely ticklish handshakers co-op. However we seldom do well in print or audio from they.
However, just lifting a few words from your post – “despite being a wee country” – reminded me about this:
For all the great sporting cities around the world, for all the great football cities around the world, how many can boast three 50k+ all seater stadia? How many can boast three 50k+ all seater stadia dedicated to football as we know it?
For all the great sporting leagues around the world EPL, NFL, ARFL, etc. etc. which country, pro rata, has the best supported league in the whole world?
The answers might just stick in the craw of the London BBC and others. I’ll let them do their own reading. But Scotland, and Glasgow especially, come out very well.
Would they ever credit north of the border? I won’t hold my breath.
God forbid Celtic and Rangers do both expand their stadiums – it would put us out of sight as a City. Compared to all those you’d be most likely to think of first as being the best equipped.
Compare Glasgow to any other UK city for stadia, including, and especially, London; and then venture abroad. It’ll surprise you.
We’re not as small as some dicks would have others believe.
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Here is a link to Peter Lawell's interview with Thick Dung on BBC at lunchtime - Peter says
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BBC now trailing Sportsound - saying they will be asking WGS if he will get to spend the £10m on players - Oh just like they asked the Cardigan if he would get to spend the Hutton money....er maybe not!
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DBBIA, JRS is not a doctor. The names you may recognise are Stoddart, Lindsay and McMaster though none of the 3 of them did any kind of drinking.
John
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Re Football's Money List. I've seen a couple of interesting comments in old media - don't know if they have been picked up on CQN.
Firstly the average income per spectator last season (The Times). In EPL it's £34, in Spain it's £22, Germany £16, Italy £15 and £11 in France. Does anyone know what it is in SPL ?
Secondly of AC Milan's total income of £153MM, a staggering 2/3rds comes from TV !! (Daily Mail).I know they can sell their own TV rights but that's a phenomenal amount. Makes you wonder how much Celtic could make given the worldwide support that we have.
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Cadizzy, DBB -- :-)
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Cadizzy - see you didn't include me in the non-drinkers!
Forgot to say folks - I had a signif birthday recently and got a framed set of tickets - Lisbon, Milan and Seville - all hunted down and put together by one of my pals who is a Jambo - there is some good in everbody!
My alter ego also gort a happy birthday message from FF!!!
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new article posted.
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Cad - Tom and Donald sometimes come into BBs. I spent an interesting year working in the Black Lubianka that is IRH in the early 80s.
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The man at....
Whlie I agree with your post at 14.56, I wonder if Rangers fans would see the headline below as being evidence of an anti Rangers bias at the BBC
'Rangers drop out of rich list'
I think it is "profit dips" ...great with crudités or pitta bread
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DBBIA, they were in with Phil (JRS) and I before and after the Aberdeen game last month. Andy was also there (he now lives in Warrington enjoying a life of leisure).
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DBBIA,
I would've thought that without doubt the main scenic attraction on the West Coast line is that of Carstairs Junction, followed closely by Carstairs hospital itself of course! :-)
HAIL! HAIL!
TTT
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Totally off any subject but just in cae anyone can help.
I'm doing family tree stuff and so is my sister and a cousin. I wanted to use Google docs. to share files like downloaded Birth certificates but they files are either too big or just don't display within Google docs. Anyone any thoughts on how to have a few people doing a family tree withoutbuying into some online family tree service?
Otherwise teh lurkings been good today andthe Ibrox bunker film superb. HH
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