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Bloke shoots!
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He scores!
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Bloke cuts inside, looking for the hat-trick...
he's done it!
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Paul
That's no fair!
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Paul
Incentivise now anomalous.
What did Santa bring you?
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And the return of amotisation! Life is good.
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Paul, have you heard about a rumbling or a crumbling over at Minty's biscuit factory.
BF
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Wouldn't be surprised to see Barry Robson replacing Scott Brown tomorrow with Andreas Hinkel returning also.
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Paul67
However way it is dressed up .Selling Hutton for £9 million will do wonders for Rangers finances.
If they win the league and we fail to get CL football ,the financial outlook of Rangers will swing back to an almost even keel, compared to ourselves.
If they win the league i fear that Rangers will be able to outspend us in the summer,and outbid us .
If we win the league they would be less likely to gamble on purchasing expensive players before they have qualified for the CL.
Which in itself,diminishes there chances of qualifying.
Celtic winning the SPL this season would be a serious blow to there short and medium term ability to compete with us on a financial basis.
Rangers have now won something like 31 of there last 32 league games.
The have just racked up there sixth consecutive clean sheet.
Celtic have no margin for error.We will probably have to win almost all of our remaining league fixtures to win the SPL.
Tommorrow is a massive game.
The players must rise to the challenge now.
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estadio, just checked my mail, still in the market for the ticket.
Cheers
Balla
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Ronaldinho will be on the bench tonight in Barcelona's away game to Seville.
They have a lot of players out: Eto'o, Puyol, Deco, Zambrotta and Bojan will all be out. Rafa Márquez hasn't trained with the team all week, having arrived back from a game with Mexico at midday on Friday (he played the 90 minutes).
Kick-off is at 9.00pm Glasgow time. It will be a cracker.
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My precious!
Your'e back!
Ha! Ha-ha! Ah ha ha ha.
Ahem! Oopsie. . . . . .
Lycru
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Tinytim
I don't dispute your numbers, but Rangers are hanging on here. Tomorrow is crucial for Celtic because any further slips will relieve the pressure on them. We need to keep that pressure on. They are close to cracking.
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Tinytim "Rangers have now won something like 31 of there last 32 league games.
The have just racked up there sixth consecutive clean sheet"
Ah think your getting points mixed up with league games.
Rangers away record will be their eventual downfall.
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tinytim
If the unthinkable happens and we don't win the league it's not time to be slitting the wrists.
Very few clubs will fancy meeting us in a qualifier and although I don't want it to happen I won't be surprised if Artur was to move on thereby providing us with significant financial clout.
I think we need a couple of real quality players in the summer. For me the Huns are more likely to need a complete overhaul.
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TinyTim :- I agree with you on that, for both clubs there is very little room for mistakes now and I think this will be a very tight finish. One thing I do think could be important is the way each squad reacts to the pressure of the situation and whether it inspires them to fight and dig for every ball or whether they lose their bottle. At times like this a players strength of mind can be as vital as his skill.
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CelticFirst :- I think you are exagerating a tad when you say Rangers are close to cracking. I'll be the first to admit that the recent transfer window wasn't the clubs finest hour but as far as the team goes I don't think they are near cracking. Today wasn't our best display agaianst a decent Falkirk side that played some good football (If they had a good finisher they would be far higher up the league)but we still scored two and lost none. As a few posters on here have said in relation to Celtic this is the time of year to grind out the results that win titles and I would put today down as an example of this. Yes there is room for a lot of improvement but on the team side at least things are going not too badly.
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WillyMillersBushyTache :- Much as I thought I'd never say this, good luck tomorrow.
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Evening all
Was getting a bit worried there earlier when i could not connect, thought perhaps my IT guys had blocked me ?
Looking forward to Sunday
Keeping the Faith
An excited Celt
Hail Hail
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E D B,
You got mail,
Martin.
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TinyTim....
Spot on. There is a bravado among some Celtic supporters - not specifically on this blog - who think things will happen just because they say they will.
There is no evidence to suggest that Rangers are about to crack, or start dropping piles of points. And they do have 7 more points in the bag than we do.
I felt, prior to the cup game with Killie, that all being equal, we would not win the league. By that I meant that if we continued to play as we were playing, and Rangers didn't change how they were doing - then we would lose.
Signing new players does not put points in the bag. Translating these new players into better performances and better results is what counts. The Killie performance was a big step forward. However, we cannot afford it to be a one-off.
We have an awful lot to do if we are to regain the title this season.
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Someone posted yesterday about special measures for the Celtic support in Barcelona.
Here is what I have read.
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La Vanguardia (Barcelona's most serious daily newspaper) reported yesterday that Celtic fans travelling to Barcelona for the Champions' League game against Barcelona on 4 March will be held in Hall 7 of the Montjuïc exhibition centre, under the supervision of the police.
The idea is to contain the green-and-white wave, made up of 15,000 Celtic fans (only 6,000 or 7,000 of whom will have tickets for the match) in this area. There will be a covered area of 8,000 square-metres and an extensive open-air space alongside.
The Celtic fans will be able to buy beer at the site, but in a controlled way. There will also be games and other activities to entertain them in the build-up to the match.
They will be taken straight to the site from the airport and the authorities will attempt to stop those who don't have a ticket from having too good a time [tricky phrase - it literally means 'becoming too comfortable'].
In spite of Celtic's insistence that hooliganism is not a problem among its fans, the city authorities have decided to take a cautious approach because of the incidents involving Rangers fans last December (sic) during the Champions' League group stages.
"We are different," Celtic chief executive, Peter Lawwell, told El Mundo Deportivo.
He went on to say: "On our two previous visits to Barcelona there was no trouble. Our fans are peaceful and friendly." Lawwell also pointed out: "Ours is the only support to have won Fair Play awards from UEFA and from FIFA."
It's clear that Celtic is not completely in agreement with the city authorities' decision.
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This appeared in El Mundo Deportivo today. It's published by the same company that publishes La Vanguardia.
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Balla,
Nipping out now, but will be in Portals between 12.30 and 13.15.
Will be wearing away top, with ESTADIO 67 on the back.
Have e-mailed same to you. Please confirm that you still want it.
Hail Hail
Estadio
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Cheers Estadio, there's a pint with your name on it on the way!
Hail Hail
Balla
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Terry O .
You could be correct ,i caught the figures listening to the radio today.
My point is that they are not being beaten ,enough.
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Edwardursus
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. When any team wins a championship there is always a period when they will have to "grind out results", "win ugly" - call it what you will. And that is what Rangers are doing at the minute. I had hoped that with Kevin Thompson missing for a few weeks you would suffer. So far there's no sign of this.
In our favour we have two OF games left at Celtic Park and the new signings - especially Barry Robson will have a big impact.
The only thing we can do is adhere to the old adage "One game at a time mate"
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Thanks for keeping us up to date with developments in Barcelona CelticFirst.
I've been travelling to european matches for the last ten years or so and I've got a bad feeling in my stomach about this one.
And none of it is of our making.
I'm flying to Valencia and getting the train to Barcelona. Let's hope the police aren't too diligent about checking on fans arriving by rail and shipping us off to the exhibition centre.
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tinytim
They have lost 3 of 23 league games this season so winning 31 of 32 is lazy journalism if that was what you heard.
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How do the Barca police intend dealing with the thousands of Celtic supporters who will be staying in hotels?
How can they be rounded up and shipped to an exhibition centre?
I have to say I'm really glad not to be going to this one.
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Tinytim by tommorrow we will have played 2 more away games than them.
I believe we will win both Celtic park games,lets say we lose at Ibrox that leaves Rangers with a point advantage.
As ah say their other away games will be the deciding factor.
Easter road last week 0-0 look for more of that in the coming months.
Rangers are getting by by the skin of their teeth at the moment,the momentum has switched.
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Damian
I hope it works out for you.
I was more worried about Whitedoghunch to be honest.
What if he, with his reservations for Michelin-starred restaurants, gets herded into Hall 7 to queue up for a cold portion of the giant paella they're talking about offering.
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Lurgan53 :- As you say, one game at a time and this goes double at this time of year. I have to admit I would far rather we had to play you twice at Ibrox than the way it is. I still think there will be points dropped to others from each side before this title is settled. If we had bought to strengthen the midfield in the window I would be feeling a lot more confident.
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Estadio/balla
Glad you're sorting something out for tomorrow. Thanks very much Estadio for picking the tickets up tday - much appreciated. Bring the three points back with you tomorrow.
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Terry
I think tomorrow will be very influential.
A win and we're on the right road, anything else and it's curtains I'm afraid.
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Cheers Bloke109,
I believe the ticket was originally yours, much appreciated.
Balla
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Sir Paul
There is obfuscation in EVERY set of financial figures!
That is par for the course...it is as certain as... One and One make Three!(Hey,Hey! Even Ah know that One and One canny make Three!...ed)( Are ye sure?...Hiv ye nevah heard the auld song..'Molly and me...and baby Makes Three'...How dae ye think Baby goat intae the equation?.... so..... Wan and Wan can... nae bother.... make Three!)
To continue...
As I was saying... Financial Reports never reveal the true financial state of the Corporation.
Everyone...wella.....obviously, not EVERYONE, knows this.. so check that... How about God? ...and ...wella! ...I guess that,about covers, it!(So that's whit ma Account meant, when he wrote "G.O.K." as a reply to my request. for an explanation of where awe o' ma money had gone?....ed)( Yep! That is the Standard Reply... to silly questions!)
In the case of the latest Ibrox Financial Report,everything that I have said...goes ...double!
But, as in all good Fairy Tales.. the Evil Guy gets his comeuppance, in the end...and the ending of the Ibrox Fairy Tale, shall be no different!
Mr.Murray's Downfall.... which, is the Bane o' all Speculators...
He shouldna hiv Been Sae... GREEDY!
He jumped intae the Boiling Hoat... English Property Market... when it was coming to the Boil....
Now the the Easy Money Gas...been extinguished...( Why? whit happened?....ed)( Nae mair Money fur the Meter!)
The English Property Market has inevitably gone off the Boil...and is cooling,so rapidly...like ye dinna waaant tae know!
Hence the sudden interest in the Ibrox Boardroom, in frantically searching everywhere, for saleable Assets.
The Hutton affair....is only the tip of the 'Berg.
The deeper into the doldrums, the English Property Markets goes....the faster, the day of reckoning for the Murray Financial House of Canasta...approaches.
That is all she wrote.
Kojo.
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EU
One game at a time!!!
I.m sitting in the house with 4 girls playing high school musical cos the wife is out to see Lena Martel.
1 minute at a time sweet jesus....
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EDB
Haven't seen anything specific. The reports I've read (I translated the one in El Mundo Deportivo deliberately, there are a few snide comments in the one in La Vanguardia that are best left untranslated, and don't get me started on the comments section that follows on the website) seem to suggest that this will be the fate that awaits people travelling on official flights.
But, of course, people will have arranged to meet their mates in town. I don't know what will happen, but the key is the elections, which take place the Sunday after we're in town. It's further reaching than I thought.
The word on the street is that for the socialists to win the upcoming Spanish general elections, retaining Barcelona at city hall level will be crucial.
The socialist administration there faced enormous criticism after November's debacle and will not run the risk of that happening again.
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The board was ok around 5 am when I left it.
Honest mister. It was a big bhoy and he must have ran away.
It is becoming obvious that the championship destination will hinge on how well we react to two sets of circumstances.
How we do after the CL games against Barca and whomever we draw in the elite 8.
The outcome of the remaining three games against Rangers, the first one of which will be vital.
This places us at a slight disadvantage as the first game will be at Ibrox, due to the spineless ineptitude of the SPL and SFA.
A victory at Ibrox for either side will be a great confidence booster and a stimulus for the run in.
Should we be lobbying for the first game played to be at CP regardless of the schedule?
'GG
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I'm keeping an eye on Alves tonight to remind me what level of player kept Andreas out of the Sevilla side.
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EDB
I think you'll be impressed so far.
Nine minutes on the clock and he's already forced two great saves from Víctor Valdés.
Barça nearly score on the break.
0-0.
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Logger'gg...
Of course we should insist the next game against the enemy is at Celtic Park, but it is looking less and less likely.
Did anyone else see the very generous "foul" awarded to Rankers today by that comedian of a referee B Winters? They scored their first goal from it.
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Celtic_First
Very much so.
Surprised he's still with Sevilla.
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EDB has put the curse on Dani Alves. He's started giving the ball away a bit easily.
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Big shout for a penalty for Thuram's challenge on Kanouté. Not given.
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BlantyreTim :- Talking from experience the only consolation I can offer is that eventually they leave home to torment their chosen man rather than dad.
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Rijkaard wearing what looks like jeans.
The Buckie and dug still to be spotted.
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LOL
Alves is right off the boil.
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Dani Alves fouls Thierry Henry.
Xavi takes the free-kick.
Poor execution. The ball goes straight out.
Kanouté on the break, tries to square to Luis Fabiano but Valdés diverts for a corner.
Poulsen gets his head to the corner, Luis Fabiano is again about to strike but Gabi Milito clears.
Thirty minutes on the clock, 0-0.
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Ed
Eventually is long in coming to my ongoing cost!
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Could anyone recommend a decent place in central London to see the game tomorrow?
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EDB, it is not true. They never leave. Well, not completely. Which is a good thing. But expensive. FOUR girls, you say?
Better get saving.....:)
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Capel scores from a Navas cross.
Seville 1-0 Barcelona.
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That Alves is a bit of a one trick pony wi the free kicks, a right footed blooter every time. He also appears to be wearing a short sleeve polo neck under his top!
Sevilla are opening Barca up and are creating the best chances.
Goal Sevilla
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Did any Sevilla players get booked for off the field celebrations?
Hmmmmm
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The trouble for Barcelona started when Capel robbed Oleguer.
Oleguer is playing his first game in three months.
A lot of people have wondered what makes it possible for him to waltz straight back into the team while Ronaldinho seems to need weeks to get back to the required level.
The answer is that, in defence, injuries have left Barcelona a bit short.
Thirty-five minutes gone.
Luis Fabiano strikes from outside the box and just misses the right-hand post.
Barcelona are struggling (let's hope not for the last time this month).
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Assuming Scott Mc.Donald picks up his customary yellow card tomorrow, does anyone know off hand what our next three league games are?
Further assuming that Scott Brown won't be far behind him for suspension, have we a case against the refs for Racism against the Scotts?
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EDB
The only Seville player booked thus far is our man Alves for the foul on Henry.
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Weeron
Blantyretimtim has 4 daughters, I "only" have 2.
Something I have found strange through the years is that I've never missed not having a son. I don't know why that is.
If indeed I did have a son I know I would love him dearly.
My daughters love Celtic as I do so perhaps that has been a factor.
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where is celtic quick news?
i have found Catalan quick news
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Barcelona are well out of sorts. If Seville were 3-0 up it would be a fairer reflection.
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Half time.
1-0.
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Celtic_First
Is a Barca defeat tonight the end of their campaign?
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EDB :- And they call it the joys of parenthood :-)
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Barcelona's options on the bench consist of Gudjohnsen, the jet-lagged Márquez and the unfit Ronaldinho.
Apart from them and new substitute goalie, Pinto, there are only three young lads from the youth team, who, coincidentally, are all called Víctor.
It's a good name for a footballer even though Davidson is probably more Con than Pro.
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Thom The Thim-
Home to Hearts
Home to Inverness
Away to Hibs.
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ace check celtic bars.com.plenty of london boozers showing the hoops on it..
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Thanks Han,
I think Skippy should stick his tongue oot at the ref tomorrow and get it over with Or maybe argue with a steward.
Sam and Jan should see us through the next three games.
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I posted last night that I was a bit envious of those heading out to Barca. Reading the arrangements they have I'm not so sure. Isn't it a shame when a bunch of ne'erdowells spoil it for the rest!
March is going to be a crucial month for us in the tile push. At the moment we have 4 away games scheduled (6 including CL and Scottish Cup), but with the possibility of home games against the dark force and Utd. Come through March unscathed and we'll win it.
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ace
Where in London are you going to be?
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Roni is on, for Edmilson. So is Márquez, for Thuram.
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Han,
you missed the trip to Paisley before the pride of Inversneckie come calling. :-)
Hopefully the Scotts will avoid any more bookings.
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thom the tim...
just remember that anyone who gets suspended as a result of a booking tomorrow the the ban doesnt start until feb 24..
as its two weeks from the offence..that means that the hearts game doesnt count for any bans unless its a red card..
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I have complete confidence in wins tomorrow and next Saturday which will place us one point behind Rangers who will be going to Kilmarnock following a midweek tussle with Panathanaikos. We have had our blip, we have focus, we have a larger and better squad and we have 2 games to come at home against them. 3 in a row is assured.
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ElDiegoBhoy ah think we'll open up a can of wupass on Aberdeen tomorrow.
Kojo ah recently listened to a guy on the Radio,Fred Harrisson who forecast the current recession in the property market 3yrs ago.
All to do with the property cycle theory (18yr cycle)
Murray yir in property at the wrang time
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Just in from at a night at the theatre with the cubs. Blood Brothers is a great play for anyone who wants to understand what KTF means.
I saw before I went out Caig Paterson nearly have sex with himself while telling everyone we are 7 points behind .
Hey we have to play them 3 times. I have the feeling this will be a love street season rather than a ml2 season.
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awalkacrosstherooftops @ 21:53; it's a great site but it can be a little out of date at times, just thought I'd see if there were any perosnal recommendations
hoopyathome @ 22:09; I'm actually stuck working in Plymouth so it's live on CQN for me ;-) My dad's asking - he tells me ideal around Victoria area. He also adds he used to go to O'donoghue's in Shepherd's Bush but last time they had Man Utd on the main screen with 'tic reduced to a small tv above the door - plus it was the ICT away match! Any better suggestions for Central London gratefully received
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My dear,dear,dear friend...Thom the tim...@21.40.
I agree Wholeheatedly.(whit?...ed)( I know,I know...I have just created a noo woid! So... sue me!)
There are too many, cheap and uncalled for, Yellow cards being given against the perpetrators so named in your submission
The infantile shenanigans that we have to put up with from The Two Scotts... and...dare I mention.... also, Aiden... is downright, unacceptable...
It would be a very interesting and rewarding task...to someone ...not I!... if they investigated the number of Yellow briefs, that were awarded to that young Threesome, for Stupid , Silly and downright Inane...Backchat... to the Referee, in futile protest for a foul that had been awarded against them.
Do these young persons not know the the Referee is the Man with the Largest Screwdriver....?
I have on many an occasion...in fact it happened again during the last game... Noticed that... Aiden....after, his rival had dispossessed him.... would succumb, to the Red Mist... and make a ridiculous and unforgivable tackle from the rear, against his opponent... and consequently ....Aiden, was punished for this stupid foul....which really in all honesty, was the result of pure...unadulterated, PETULANCE...on the part of Aiden!
In a Game of Soccer, many a situation is absolutely unpreventable... it is the will of the Gods...
Howevaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhha
Players should be in full control of their emotions at all time... there is no excuse for a player to act like a child...
And really, when all is said and done... to give in to flashes of anger and revenge....in any sport... is the mark of the Not Ready For Prime Time Player.
If I were King...
Those three young worthies... would be a this time... be suffering the loss in their incomes...of THOUSANDS OF POUNDS!
They say that the way to a Man's Heart is through his stomach.....
In this case, I say..
To change a Man's Outlook...tout de suite... is through a Reduction in his Bank Account!
You have pointed four squarely to a matter that has been, so far, been beneath the Radar.
Whereas, it should have been vigorously discussed.
The loss of Key players...such as these Three, as the result of their amateurish behavior and the sheer recklessness, on their part...
could very well be the deciding factor in where the S.P.L. flag , flies next year .
Kojo.
yer pal.....who always likes what ye have tae say.
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Nice comments from Big Jan about getting the captains armband.
In the interview he says that hes not too bothered about what people think of him as long as the Management staff are happy with him.
Maybe a backhanded dig at the fans reaction to his recent displays.
For me i like the bigman, its a hard thing to replace Chris Sutton and i think we compare the two, when thats unfair on Jan as Chris was a player that only comes round a few times in our lives. A versatile natural footballer and in my eyes under appreciated in his fantastic Celtic career.
Heres big Jans take on getting the armband, the biys got green blood i tell ye.
“It was a great honour for me to be captain of Celtic and I hope someone took a picture of it because it would be framed after I stop playing football,”
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Newbie,lurker and long time admirer of CQN. Hi Paul + posters
just wonderin if there is any info re the GAP guy's investment and future plans ????
Does GAP guy know somethin we dont ?? Interestin times ahead methinks.
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Gl2
You mean ML1
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1-1.
Xavi. 15 minutes left.
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ace
You're right. Celticbars is a bit out of date, as a lot of the pubs on there have either shut down or don't show the games anymore. Nearest to Victoria will be either
THE COCK TAVERN, PHOENIX RD, EUSTON or THE KINGDOM, 229 KILBURN RD NW6 7JG (Spirit of 67 CSC) www.spiritof67csc.co.uk
They will both have the game on.
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ace no worries you just wernt too specific at the time..
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Tim O'Tech
I'm a finance numptie.
All I can tell you is that John J is the only member of the family not to have got involved in The Gap. Don't know why.
Seville are down to ten men. Keita is off for a second yellow for a bad foul.
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Barcelona had a shout for a penalty from the Keita free-kick (which Ronaldinho took). Not given.
Barcelona are the only team that looks like winning this now.
An amazing turnaround.
Seven to go.
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hoopyathome, awalkacrosstherooftops - thanks for the recommendations, he tells me he'll be at one of the two! ;-)
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SOAL are not all ML's the same..... as long as their not PA's im ok!!!!
Just saw Aston Villa there the EPL is not very good.
Shaun Maloney involved in a few of the goals.
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One last chance for Barcelona.
Ronaldinho has hit the wall with two free-kick attempts so far.
It's quite a way out.
He hits the wall again.
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The crowd are still there.
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GL2
Only if you buy a £8.50 Bus pass
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Another free-kick, in the 50th minute.
Ronaldinho.
Palop saves. At least he didn't hit the wall.
Full-time.
1-1.
Barcelona are five points behind Real Madrid, who play Real Valladolid tomorrow evening.
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How on earth can it be legal under European law for the Barcelona police to behave in this way? Free movement of people?
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How on earth can it be legal under European law for the Barcelona police to behave in this way? Free movement of people?
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SOAL watching the Sunderland game with the state of the pitch I think its moved to the ML,
Are you going out to Barca with WG?
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El Diego Bhoy if we served up a feast like that no one would leave early,that wis from the top drawer.
Commitment and skill at full pelt wit a gemme.
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My dear,dear,dear friend Terryo
I agree wholeheartedly...this time!... with, what the very astute Mr. Harrison has/had to point out.
Also, while we are on the subject of Cycles...
I had a discussion on here,recently ... on the FOLLY of studying History...
The following Respected and Venerable Aphorism... should be more properly titled... an Endearing and ENDURING.... FABLE!
The Aphorism...I am referring to, is of course......
"Those who do not study the mistakes in History...are doomed to Repeat them!"
Poppycock... Pureee Balderdash!
Man will ALWAYS REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKES ....OVER AND OVER AND OVER.. whether one wastes his energy... researching the follies and mistakes of the past...
Man will still make the same old same old Faux Pases( Pases?...ed)( Don't blame me...if it is no right... Diane jist told me...and Diane...is...Nevah wrang!)
And the Smart Mr. Harrison is only verifying my conclusion.
Our Collective ears are now being made aware of the Resounding.. POP! ..of a Bubble Bursting....
It is only ONE BUBBLE!... but it is a Collective one... which contains, as well as The Housing and Property ... the Banking Sector ..and consequently.. the Employment Sector...
The Eighteen Year Cycle which he refers to... may in fact be a fact...I do not know... and.. frankly, I do not care...
Because... I know that after this Economic Downturn runs its course...
AND IT WILL...
And...After, another Period of Prosperity...
Wella....do I need to tell you..what will once again be in store?
Na! I thought so...
Therefore...
Forget the studying and all of the forecasting based on PAST CYLCLES...
It is a complete waste of time
We .. are.. VICTIMS OF OUR HUMANITY...
and to err is but Human.. and to FORGIVE .....is for SUCKERS!
Yes,Virginia.. when the Bubble reaches a certain size...ye better close yer eyes!
Kojo.
yer pal... who jist thinks ye are the cat's nightwear!
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Kojo,
Yep, some, if not most of the yellows picked up by the three boys could have been prevented.A mistimed tackle can be unfortunate.
That is not to say that they were all deserved, but in the words of Gordon Strachan, " They gave the ref a decision to make" and they will make it.
He said that after Thompson was sent off after his lunge on Novo, yon time.
I applauded the philosophy of subbing any reserve or youth player who showed dissent and while that is not practical in the first team, there should be other measures to discourage such self harming actions.
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Wee story to tell about myself, I’ll cut a long story short, maybe to explain why I’m a Tim, you be the judge.
1972 : Put into a home, 8 yrs old ( List D school, Gryffe, Bridge of Weir) nobody to look after me (Mum in hospital, getting an ulcer op) first week there guy called Charlie Tate (12) from Ayr asks me in the grounds of the place, “ You a Fenian ?” “ No, I’m a Catholic “
“Schmaaaack !” across my face, fell on the ground, got up, no tears.,
“Ah said are you a Fenian ??” “No, I’m a Catholic”…….”Schmaaaack” This time I sat on the ground, tears rolling down my eyes, and he asked me again, “Are you a Fenian ???”
“I’ve already told you what I am , why don’t you go away ?”
Unless you have no imagination, you can guess what happened next, I got beat up, re-assured it would happen again, unless I admitted I was a “Fenian”.
I was there three weeks, probably the longest three weeks of my life, and I got beat up, but was never beaten
I’m now in my 40’s, and it’s took me that long to face this, is’nt amazing how things stick with you ?
I apologise if I’ve spoiled your dinner, but I feel a helluva lot better getting that off my chest.
Oh, and that’s why I’m a Tim.
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Terry
Totally agree.
Still think McCurry was favouring the away team.
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Got a big fright today when the blog was down, especially when the virus call went up last night.
Anyroadup, I feel the withdrawal symptoms receeding now.
Apology to han solo as I spent the day cursing him thinking he might have introduced a virus, sorry han.
Winning the title this year will see the minty house of cards come tumbling down, however this could be the best thing for them as I suspect there will be plenty of potential investors ready to step in if debt is written off due to a bankrupt declaration, I did ask recently if this was a possibility and never got an answer, so nI'm taking the silence as an affirmative.
But I'd still like to see it as the stigma will last forever.
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Gl2
i think Wg is Going with Ary Heinz i will wait to see what happens at Cp first
a ticket for Barca is not a problem
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Paul67
I hear what you're saying but I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Example
A Hutton.....through the ranks....no transfer fee does not mean no value. Including overheads, salary etc, over the 7 year piece that hutton was there it might have cost rankers in the region of, lets say £100k per year to train and pay him. Grand total £700k. He must surely have an automatic asset value of at least that amount. Since the start of this season he's been performing to a reasonable standard, pushing his value upwards, ie, to buy someone from the SPHell of the same standard say £1,000,000.00. His value, to rankers as an asset must now be in the region of £1.7m.
Bearing in mind that the "Premiership" (anything to sound different) are paying over inflated prices, it is absolutely fair for Rankers to value him at say £9,000,000.00 only because his Scottish value to date is worth in the region of £1.7m, and that some bampot English club are willing to pay £7,000,000.00 to purchase him. Whether said english club actually buy him is neither here nor there, the fact that they have put that value on him gives Rankers good reason to do likewise. The same goes, therefore for any other player they have brought through their ranks.
The moral of the story as far as I can see is get as many young bucks on your books as possible and put a POTENTIAL value on them for as much as you like, and hey presto, you are all of a sudden the richest club in the world (on paper) Or am I talking bull?
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I'm well able to make an exhibition of myself without being locked up in one.
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My dear Friend..TIM O'TECH...
Having just read out your very interesting and intriguing tale...
to my friend ... Vito...
Here is what he has to say..suitably translated from his vernacular.
"Palomine... ye ar now 40 years o' age, noo.. 'Zat right?
So, what I have to tell you... is probably way to late...
But it is a pity..that ye didn't take this course o' action, that I am now suggesting...
But,ye never know... make a note o' my advice.... mebbe, something will come up in the future, which will just beg o' you ,to put my woids into practice..
Here is my advice...
The mistake ye made wiz in taking the time to GIVE AN ANSWER TO THE YOUNG PUNK'S QUESTION!
As soon as the question was put...
You should HAVE AUTOMATICALLY... GIVEN HIM A MOOTHFUL O' HEIDERS!
Case closed."
And listen to what Vito has to say in this matter,pal.
Vito knows from where he speaks!
Kojo.
yer pal...who likes ye.
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SOAL im booked independent as always and i always struggle to get tickts.
So if tickets are no problems and your not going im your man for taking your spares.
I always like a wee look around the places we play and i try to refuse to pay the rip off prices of the 'official agents' since Porto .
I am a slut and if require i'd go with them....but only as the lioness said to me you were the last one the shelf.
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The Spirit of Arthur Lee at 23:06
Can I ask why you think a ticket for Barca is not a problem?
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31003.........
Yer talking bull.
better to value stadium at £125 million pounds!
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Tim O'Tech,
I know where you are coming from...I had the same type of encounter in a bar on the southside.. before the Hamden Riot...
Funny how things turn out..?
Ironbhoy
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T'OT
CQN is cathartic.
It's been quiet and peaceful recently with a warm glow after the transfer window and the last couple of results.
Hopefully after tomorrow we will all be feeling friendly and confidently facing the run in.
'GG
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fatherandbhoy
Yer probably right, I'm half caked and when thats the case i normally take the long way round to the simplest of answers. Agreed. Value the stadium at millions. Job done !
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31003
I don't think you can write off salary costs and turn it into an asset valuation.
I believe salary costs are an ongoing expense. Therefore Hutton's or anyone's wages over the period when he was being nurtured do not equate to his asset value.
This is from a non bean counter, so maybe a purveyor of smoke and mirrors can contradict me.
'GG
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Kojo
Comments appreciated, you a Legend on here, even if I dont understand your cryptic comments half the time !
how many times did you "heider" somebody when you were 8 ?
I've now dealt with ( dealing with ....????) those events, but it made me the person I am, from that time ive never shirked or been afraid of anything( or anyone !).
Cheerz for taking the time to reply Kojo, much appreciated.
Hail Hail
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31003.......
I'm half caked as well. When I was an apprentice CA in the 70's, players were not shown as assets on the balance sheet. Amortisation of players came much later. I could go on but am away topour another glass of New Zealand Sauv Blanc. And Kojo....without emotion football is nothing!
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Tim O'Tech,
I had a similar experience (though not in a home)with a bully as a child, unfortunately I took the advice after the first time, similar to that given by Kojo's pal Vito. I bravely took on a guy much bigger and stronger and was hospitalised. Great advice Vito theres bravery then theres foolhardy, IMO you done the right thing Tim O'Tech.
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Tim O Tech welcome,
"This ONLY is denied God: The power to undo the past." Ambrose Gwinett Bierce
hope life treats you well from this day on.
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Kojo emotion and reaction can be integral parts of a players make up. As a case in point consider Roy Keane. His occasional redmists and volcanic reactions went a long way to making him one of the most feared players in the EPL. As for revenge think of the assault on Alfie Inge Haaland. Got him sent off but my God it didn't half win him some space in future matches. His ferocity was far from his only asset but it was an essential part of him as a player.
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Honestly. Who cares? Amortisation is a paper trick. It always has been. David Murray has demonstrated what you can do with paper tricks. This site championed a huge cash splurge a few seasons ago on the basis of ammortisation when the charge to the p&l account meant absolutely zero in real terms. In reality, the ammortisation of fixed tangible assets should have little or no bearing on what football clubs budget for spending in the market on players.
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My dear,dear, friend... Tim O' Tech
Touche, pal... ye got me there!
At the age o' Eight?
mmmmmmmmmm!
Vito, by the way...was Monday Morning Quarter Backing, anyway!
He is like dat!( Wait 'til ah tell him, whit ye jist said!...ed)(Who's scared o' Vito , anyway...but.on second thoughts...could I interest you in an invite to dinner... say, tonight? and afterwards...how about taking in the Noo Beatles show, at the Mirage...followed by...wella, you know how many chorus gals that I know and...wella....)
Nice talkin' pal....
Kojo.
yer pal....who likes yer style.
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Ironbhoy
Hope you gave as good etc
Camalar
I omitted mention he was there with his brother and a couple of muppets, I was neither brave nor foolish,but I knew when i was outnumbered. Unfortunately for me, I can forgive, but not forget, and it burns my brain,with what I spould've done( as Kojo and Vito said) but , realistically, there was nothing I could've done.
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T O'T
I did surmise he wouldnt be on his own, bullies rarely are.
I will say for my own experience it was resolved satisfactorily about 10 years later when he thought I was stil a wee boy, however I did stop short of hospitalising him as revenge is a dish best served cold.
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Ghuys.........at the risk of getting really boring.......asset should be replaced by value.....a hypothetical scenario.
I've just started a service type company. It cost me £500k to start up. Ive just won three contracts for three years duration each. Each contract is worth £2,000,000.00 turnover per annum
Therefore, "potential annual turnover is £6,000,000.00
Over Three years, £18,000,000.00
Running costs = £4,000,000.00 per annum
Profit over 3 years should be £6,000,000.00
Before kicking a ball, a new buyer sees the potential and promptly offers me £2,000,000.00 for the company. I accept making a £1.5m profit on my outlay.
1 day later the three contracts are cancelled, therefore the company in real terms was worth nowt, but, at 1 point was worth millions.
What I didn't tell the buyers was that I knew the contracts were to be cancelled.
the moral of the story is make it look good on paper
the moral of the story is....you can fool all of the people some of the time......and you can fool some of the people all of the time....but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.
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Paul67
You and I both know that costs incurred in business are many.
With a bit of financial shifting, paperwork lifting and clever monetary fiscal management, all can seem rosey in a garden.
Our main concern should be the three points from Pittodrie on Sunday, which we are more than capable of getting.
The riches for Celtic remain in being Champions of Scotland, for the foreseeable future.
C.F. MArtin42( and with apologies)
Stand up for the Champions.
(No use of uppercase, no intention of infringing copyright)
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E D B,
You got mail.
Martin.
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My dear friends, Father and Bhoy...Andy Colo...
Sure,sure... I know , I know......Roy Keane ... Emotions... the spunk thingy...( Did I ever tell you, pal?.... I Hate Spunk!...ed)( Na... ye didnae... but in whit ye just said... I agree!)
In knowing all of that... and studiously taking everything that you two guys have informed......
Here is a question that I will put to the both of you....
"How will you feel...if...and the way the players under discussion are going.... the following supposition, can turn out to Really, Real...
In the upcoming Important games... against our closest Rivals... or even ..against CL competition....
One or Two ...or even..... Three, of our recalcitrant ones are sitting .Grounded ...in the stands... because of their....
SPUNKFUL ATTITUDE, IN COMPETING IN, THE MANLY ART OF SOCCER?"
Always, use the heid.... I say...
Better a thought to the repercussions of one's Intemperate actions,on the field o' play....
Than dolefully receiving, a Suspension on the bench!
Kojo.
yer pal.....who thinks the both o' ye are swell.
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Tim O'Tech,
You did what you did, I went farther south than Kojo suggested, with a fistfull of , erm, not dollars.
But I did not feel any better than you for what was something I did'nt understand.
But from that day on I realised I was, in someones eyes, a fenian.
All because of a Crucifix around my neck.
Many years later I booked into a Hotel in Fenian Street, Dublin with my irish girlfriend. She never could understand my amusement at the address.
Ironboy
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Inkybhoy,
No problems, no worry about copyright.
I think STAND UP,,,,,should become the byword for Celtic Quick News.
We will win tomorrow and by a few goals.
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin
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Kojo
I am social phobic, probably an amalgamation of previous experiences.
I know where I'm going , but more importantly, I know where I come from, if there is one constant in this complex conundrum......it's the Tic, they keep me sane, even when they drive nuts !
I will deal with my problems, and face them. That is why I think supporting Celtic is a spiritual thing, not a football thing, they have gave me more support, thru bad times, thru song, thru goals, thru experience (Seville !), thru meeting Tims, it's all good stuff.
Hail Hail
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Martin42
Regards
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS
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After winning the cup Gordon Strachan claimed he would love to have Jack Bauer in his team. Do you think Jan Vennegor of Hesselink is looking for inspiration on how to keep his manager happy now he's getting extra competition :)
“Aberdeen is a nice place to visit. It’s a good ride up there in the bus and I like looking at the Scottish scenery. I’ll sit with Jack Bauer on my DVD player and have a nice journey up."
Nice to see he enjoyed his stint as captain. It's always good to have a player who takes pride in wearing the Hoops.
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Am gone tae ma kip tae read,leave you with this tune,listened to this cd on the way down from Inverness last week from the Drumochtar Pass to Killiecrankie thru Snow.Sun sparse to lush.
4am
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inkybhoy
if you are up for the game tmrw I'll be watching it in the city centre.
Martin42's copyright is amortised to the taxman- it's a messy affair so you'll get away with it.
STAND UP FOR MARTIN42
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a win is vital in as much as it sends out a message that we'll fight all the way for the league. good football and a tanking of the sheep could mean we're back. i can't wait!
kojo,
interesting post at 22.59. it was your last sentence that interested me the most.
i agree that there will always be cycles, good times, bad times but i think the interesting thing is for whom......? over the last 100-150 years that might have meant more prosperity for more people but might we be reaching a 'tipping point'.
there will always be a 'cream', meaning the people who win or lucky ones like us, along for the ride but we have to share that cream among more every year. can we find enough to feed the beast? will the cream turn weak and run out. who knows? everything comes to an end is as true as history is there to be written.
anyway, enough banalities!
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Watching Newcastle today i came to the conclusion what a waste of a talent Michael Owen is in that team. The boy looks so disheartened at that club and in need of a move.
Hopefully, he has overcome all his injuries to become the goalscorer we know.
Looking at Owen today reminded me of Chirs Sutton spell at Chelsea. It never happened for him their and a move was needed to re ignite him.
Owen is at a stage of his career where he would like to win trophies and medals and participate in CL. A bhoy with goal scoring prowess deserves it.
Like John Hartson said in an interview with Celtic TV he can look back in a career where he has won honours, competed in europes premier stage and played in many big games.
If Owen can get a clear run of games from now to the end of the season and stay clear of serious injury i believe that Celtic should make their move and bring the bhoy to Paradise. Like Chris Sutton who excelled when he joined i believe Owen would be the same. Naka, Aiden & Koki would have a field day supplying him.
I believe Michael would jump at the chance to come to us and Newcastle would not be hard to deal with as he will be in the last year of his contract. Michael is a Celtic fan and let's just say certain memebers of his family would over joyed if such a scenario was to happen.
I have came to the conclusion that we should
FREE THE OWEN 1!!
The number 7 awaits you my Bhoy.
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IronBhoy
Seriously impressed with that. Can just imagine your internal smile when you got there.
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Timo
I`m sure many of those on C.Q.N.can identify with anti-catholicism.I never needed to be asked if I was a fenian.The school blazer was green.
Remember being involved in a similar incident to yourself,but much milder.
Ironically,I was once told that the fenians were a group which had been excommunicated by the pope.Don`t know the truth of it,but I have no doubt that someone will.
What it taught me was to hate religious bigotry and bullying.
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Whitedog,
Nice one, B.
STAND UP FOR EACH OTHER,
Martin.
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WhiteDogHunch
I'm hosting vistors to my own domicile for the match, and will not be available for city centre entertainment.
As for Martin42, his tax affairs are his own.. he shouts a sentiment we all feel.
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS.. and Martin42
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wgs..totally agree would have him tomorrow morning provided he would stay fit and money no object
negatives too injury prone and cost would be too prohibative
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Goodnight fans,
I am off to dream about three points nearer retaining our title.
It was nice to see Weeron posting tonight,
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin.
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Lord Martin.... wella, if yer son is a Sir...surely,then......
Just for you,babe....
Here is my forecast for the morra's
conflict, at Aberdeen.
Aberdeen.0 Celtic 56.
I have purposefully on purpose... managed to contain my triumphalism....
as you can see by my prediction, of such a low scoring contest...
Kojo
yer pal... who... so far... has been batting Zero, in his predictive Celtic Goal Count...but... I am deeelighted to say....
Is Batting 1000, in his prognostications concerning the number of Celtic Wins.
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awalkacrossthehoops,
Working with Mr Dupont would help Michale immensly. Help him get that extra yard back.
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FREE THE OWEN 1!!
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I'm not sure what you mean here Kojo :
My dear,dear, friend... Tim O' Tech
Touche, pal... ye got me there!
At the age o' Eight?
mmmmmmmmmm!
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not sure if owen would be a great or a handicap. if fit, great for europe but in the spl? maybe very good or....
dunno, i'm a bit scared of big name footballers
some music
and some more
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wgs agreed re m.o and dupont just dont know what he could do about his appetite or lack of.
if money was right would have him here without question but would suggest both in terms of transfer fee and wages he would be out our reach..
mind you he doesnt look happy with his lot ill grant you
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My dear,dear friend Syllawas mince....
Your sentiments as implied in your last submission, are almost universal on this site.
Mine is...as, you know... well known...and... DESPISED BY MANY.
Being that as it may...
I do not care a monkeys shelled peanut... how " The Down Trodden and Miserable Wretches" among us....fare.
That is their Problem...
I quote/paraphrase.... a more famous and revered personage, than myself..
When his HandMaiden was castigated by On lookers, when she used a very expensive Balm to perform the act of massaging his feet.....and, bye the bye... that Particular Balm, cost a pretty penny,my dear!
Here is what he said.....to the onlookers...
"THE POOR WILL ALWAYS BE WITH US......etc."
In that, pal....both he and I are PINKETY PINKETY....
For, to be a WINNAH....der must always be a LOSAH!
My advice to you,my friend is...
Look after Number One...
For each man is responsible for earning his own seat at the Lunch Table.
I know...
I am Incorrigible!
And.... Luvin'.....it!
G'devenin'
Kojo.
yer pal....who likes ye mair and mair.
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Mouldy67
Remember the game kicks off at 2pm. Dont be overtired my friend !
Hopefully see you and Bull67 at Love street on 24th
Hail Hail
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Ross Common
See you are still lurking about old bhoy
I thought you were beer night was friday ?
No seriously had not been keeping great last week end and decided that I need some extra sleep, but a bit too much that nature delivered
Looking forward to game Sunday
Hail Hail
PS Whats the script with Love Street, I must have missed that email or is our agent V on the inside going to secure places for us ?
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Thank you all for a pleasant evening's lurking. Off to my scratcher now since I have a 45 minute journey to get to Pittodrie tomorrow.
Dons 0 - 6 Champions
Lurcy
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ryluc..
happy birthday
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awalk . . . . . etc -
Eh? Is it October already?
Urlyc
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Mouldy67
Hopefully the saint Vinny (aka simon templar) will get us in but i doubt it . I Will be going for a few before and after the game (I Hope!!) Hope you will be about..............
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kojo,
i understand it is so and always will be. it is our nature. but i really do wonder how long it can continue as now. it's ok for us and maybe our children, but ........
there are as many weaknesses as strengths in the global economy. the biggest weakness is nature.
etc etc
anyway... i'm looking forward to a tough game tomorrow. if the celts play as we know they can then we can show we really mean business
donthavechildrenandsavetheworld,man csc
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Is it just me or are we becoming a bunch of bean counters rather than fitba'(ie: Cellic) fanatics..?
Or is it the same thing...?
Just wondering, it seems it all about shares, amortisation and other stuff I cant spell...!
Ironbhoy
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ryluc...
hee hee..
think i wished you that twice in october,twice in nov, and once in dec so might as well keep the gag going...
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Kojo.......
I agree with your assertion about stupid bookings. But just because a Celtic player is booked does not mean it was justified. Scott Macdonald is on the threshold of a suspension, but this includes his totally unjustified booking against Gretna for celebrating a last minute match winning goal. Whereas super Barry was not booked for grabbing an Aberdeen player by the throat, Whittaker was not booked for a straight legged assault on a Hibs player. Bhoy has just arrived in and he reminds me that Scott was also booked by McCurry for being tripped by two Kilmarnock defenders, and by McCurry after McGregor stamped on him twice. It's harder to defend Scott Brown, but none of his bookings were more deserved than Fergusons or Whittakers. But I am just a twisted, paranoid, aul haun!
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maybe we receive unfair bookings but unfortunately we have to be wise to that
nomoreyellowswhilstsavingthewold csc
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asaunterovertheslates -
Ah, now I seem to remember through an alcoholic haze something like that!
Thanks, but the congrats chould be accompanied by pressies, should they not, or am I just being greedy now? Probably!
Definite bed time now chaps.
Y'all have a good night y'hear?
Lycru zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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ucrlu..very greedy..
haha
asaunterovertheslates
fred dibnah csc
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ucrly..no worries...
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31101
Nice example.
Culd well see you being done for fraudulent misrepresentation though!!!
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on the football...i expect a convincing victory tomorrow in fine style....
...on the finances...kojo and others are correct...murray ramped up his property dealings in england just as the market reached it's highest point...the companies who sold to him were smarter, more experienced and not driven by ego...
...murray has always made money on the back of a rising market...he did it with rangers initially, he did it with steel and he was doing it with property....what the downturn in football and property have proved is that he has not been able to make money in a falling market....why is that...because he is permanently overstretched.....when his football operation hit the buffers big time, it survived because steel and property were still going up...he has since sold his most profitable steel business....right now it is firesale time in commercial property...but his balance sheet isn't able to support an across the board writedown to that level in commercial property...steel sales have slowed....commercial property is in dire straights.....and he was £700 million in debt 12 months ago....it could be way more now......edward may ponder that these circumstances have more to do with the farcical january window than any italian trip at the 11th hour.......
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Tim O'Tech
Your a braver a man than me and if you take your catholic teachings to the limit you turned the other cheek at every opportunity. I hope your life has matured into a period of happiness and contentment.
Kojo, what can I say you present arguement after agruement embraced in a language of confusion and contradiction but in posts so full of grammatical entities you appear a master of the english language. I remember friends being given the advice of take bullies head on, it rarely worked.
Anyway onto football, feeling more than confident of our 3 in a row. Transfer window went well, as per the teams performance at Kilmarnock. It's amazing the difference in performance when, competition on the bench filters through to the first eleven.
Hail Hail
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pjbhoy..
james if your there no dice so far re the single..too dear to acquire at the mo..
if you stumble across it...
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Off topic.
I have just finished reading "The Damned United" - easily the best football novel I've ever seen.
However...
At the risk of showing my age, does anyone remember Venables book "They used to play on grass" featuring Scottish whizkid Jackie Caskey ?
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Tim o'tech
I think ye done alright, whats an 8yr old to do. Hail Hail.
Ye didnae forget and I, oh yes I know it's a pain on the soul to still have it hanging over ye. I moved a lot when I was a kid so the different bullies where left behind but I always wished for the oppertunity a gallusness of my dear younger half-bro(incidentelly not a Tim but an honest family man).
Him being younger by 7yrs and 23 at the time, drinking on a Sat afternoon he left us for a moment, making his excuses as he turned his attention to a slightly older patron who arrived at the bar. 'Do you remember me he says?' his communicado recognising by introduction by name and welcoming like an old 'friend'...'aye it's wee K how ye doin?' and from that moment, a wonderful moment in time for K, he reminded him, with furious and immediate intimicay that their previous relationship 8 to 10 ears previous had not been forgotten.
Sometimes catholic thinking doesn't suffice, a hun made me me admire his spirit that day.
We don't all get the chances to make others 'atone' but when you stood up for yourself then, I can guarantee that that lad looked over his shoulder for ye later in life, although you were never fortunate enough to welcome him as an 'old friend' later.
I hope your happy now, these things trouble us in middle-age; be happy in yourself and be sure that bully has had a more pain received through his attitude than you have my friend as a 'happy to be a Tim' person you are.
Love, Peace and shout C'mon The Ceeeeltic!!!
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31003
always loved your off beat humour, now numbers an aw!!!
Yer a Hero of mine Pal, keep up the good work.
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It looks like perfect weather for the game.
Overcast but dry with temp around 7C and winds gusting to 8MPH.
The really good news is that the UV Index will be low, so there's no chance of any Tims getting sun burned.
'GG
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t 09/02/08 23:58, Blogger Kojo said…
My dear friends, Father and Bhoy...Andy Colo...
Sure,sure... I know , I know......Roy Keane ... Emotions... the spunk thingy...( Did I ever tell you, pal?.... I Hate Spunk!...ed)( Na... ye didnae... but in whit ye just said... I agree!)
As ye may can tell am only catching up, but that's a wee classic..!!!
Kojo respect, don't take me wrong, your open minded view of politics and life make me jealous of ye an fill me with admiration...it took some time but if you weren't part of this blog over the last 3 years or so so, we'd all be poorer.
fhengshooied, who took a long time tae like ye, but ah do.
HAIL HAIL
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At 10/02/08 00:16, Blogger Martin42 said…
Goodnight fans,
I am off to dream about three points nearer retaining our title.
It was nice to see Weeron posting tonight,
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin.
Aye Martin, you'll no get any better truth and reality than from Wee Ron, I dislike blind men...I welcome that man's infrequent posts as a true 'gospel'. Don't need no Sunday bells ringing to appreciate his scary truth,
The voice of reason....but all the same
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS
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Sorry for being so late with this, but I'd like to pass on my condolences to Dick Byrne and Oldtim67 for their recent tragic losses.
10 days ago I had a very brief taste of how you must be feeling. I am a lucky man, and just thank god that the doctors on duty were able to give me back my boy (who came home yesterday). My heart really goes out to you both.
Again, apologies for being so late with this but I have not been online to read or post.
StevieS
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StevieS -
We can only hope that the support for Dick Byrne and Oldtim67 on here will have given them some additional strength to help them through the awful period they have had to endure.
I am delighted to hear that your boy is home, and I wish you and yours all the best.
Curly
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Hoople
Damned Utd is essential.
They used to play on grass? I'm old enough to remember Hazell!
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Paul67:
Correct me if I’m wrong, and apologies if this has been brought up previously, but was Allan Hutton, being a product of their youth academy – which I believe is a totally separate entity from RFC – not an asset of the academy?
A player in effect, leased to RFC, in a bizarre parody of business of the football kind.
Won’t some of the money from the transfer fee, if not all, be due the academy? (Minty)
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celtic pub in wimbledon for todays game anyone?
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One of these might be of help. Never been in any of them so can’t offer any more than an address.
Good luck.
LONDON - JACK BEARDS, MITCHAM RD, TOOTING BROADWAY, SW17 (Wimbledon CSC)
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Kitalba ;- I'm not 100% sure on this one but I think Mr Hutton was a full emloyee of RFC before the new set up with the youth system came in so no money is due. I agree with you that it seems a wierd way of doing things.
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Ed:
Neither am I but I was just thinking that with Rangers in the position they are in, both league position and financial position, why didn’t they spend some hard cash in the transfer window. They have got previous.
If they are in that … what’s another inch or two.
Winning the league this year is so important to both teams, for varying reasons, but Rangers may have shot themselves in the foot by not strengthening. Maybe they just couldn’t for whatever reason.
This made me think of the academy and its potential claim to the asset.
Somebody will know.
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Ken try hearWimbledon CSC
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Edward
disinteresting fact
I don't know if you know this or not but the Monaco based super agent that brings a lot of french players to rfc was a colleague of
mine at A3
I was on white he was on red
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Kitalba :- Once again I have to agree, we lost one of out top players dring the window, I know many on here didn't rate him but I honestly think that was due to green tinted specs. After losing him in my opinion at least 2/3rds of the money should have been reinvested in the team. I know that quite a few folk on here tend to think that "speculate to accumulate" is almost blasphemy (though a recent example of MON tends to put up a good counter point to that view) but a failure to do so in the recent window could cause us to lose the title from pole position.
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uninteresting as well
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Mickybhoy :- Was he a greedy coniving money grabbing leech back then or did that come with the job?
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Paul67
Too Complicated
Mon the Hoops
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Scottish football gossip of the day
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Kitalba - the farcical situation of RFC 'buying' players from Ranger Youth Development relates directly to Paul's article. It allows RFC to give players that have come through the system an on paper value that they otherwise wouldn't have. I've no doubt there's a scale eg £250k for a squad player, £1M for a guaranteed first teamer etc. Much like they're inflated property values, it allows the accounts to be boosted by placing an arbitrary value on their youth players.
All this was explained to me by an accountant on a training course I did
I would be amazed if money actually moved from one company to the other.
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Edward
never got involved with him a lot
He is now a lot fatter than I remember
I suppose its all that high living
in Monaco while we tough it out on the pension
How he got to that exalted position I haven't a scooby doo
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Edward,
Don't you think the timing of the Hutton transfer (a couple of days before the deadline) was interesting.
Do you take tha Rangers line that Hutton didn't want to leave and only the size of the offer persuaded him at the last minute to reluctantly sign?
OR
Are you with the cynics who believe that with transfer going through at the last knockings and the management team abroad - the Rangers fans couldn't put pressue on to ensure the money was spent strenghtening the team?
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WeeMinger:
I appreciate the association with Paul’s thread leader and I’m pretty sure that the mint has his finger in the Youth Academy Pie as he has everything else Rangers, but was most interesed in where the money and the amount actually was addressed to. Who actuallly owned the player? Whether it was RFC or a subsiduary of MIH.
I've said it before, you've gotta watch these accountant types.
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Hail Hail
Should be writing an Essay on the NHS and Privatisation right now but can't concentrate due to the anticipation of today's game. Been dying for this game to come quickly after the victory against Moanin Jefferies mob.
I believe Hinkel will start today at RB, too bad for young Caddis but his time will come against Barca. The big questions are will Robson & Samaras start or will they come off the bench?
If Robson starts, who will be drop? If he does start I think you will see Naka drop with Aiden moving to the right and Robson on the left. Personally I would drop Skoosh as he has been out of sorts lately but WGS might not want to do that as the Laptop Loyal will jump on it to rehash stories of WGS and Skoosh fallen out with each other, followed on by stories of Skoosh wanting to leave (usually just before a big games). WGS gets paid handsomely for making big decisions like that don't be afraid to make controversial decisions.
The sideshow for today's game is that the same sheep-loving season ticket holders are going to be sitting behind WGS and Pendry, do you think that Aberdeen will be smart enough not to put the same jobsworth of a steward there. I hate to be WGS and Pendry today, the abuse they are going to get today.
Mon the Hoops
3-0 for the Bhoys, JVH first goal with Robson getting the last.
Who is the MIB today?
