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Friday, February 15, 2008
Hearts game more important than Barcelona

I heard “biggest game of the season” mentioned yesterday in relation to Wednesday’s Barcelona match; it’s not even the biggest game of the week. That honour goes to tomorrow’s tussle with Hearts, who have already won at Celtic Park this season and taken a point from us away from home.

Unfortunately a four point gap means that a last minute goal would almost certainly be more valuable to Celtic tomorrow than on Wednesday; not that I am too concerned about either match.

I am sure Gordon Strachan will have his sights firmly focussed on the matter in hand.

Apart from expecting a comfortable victory for Celtic, I anticipate a number of less palatable happenings away from Celtic Park this weekend.

Mike McCurry will referee his sixth Rangers game on the season (five in the league) on Sunday; twice the frequency Rangers have seen any other ref.

He cautioned more Celtic players in one game this season than he has Rangers players all season; a key factor which has resulted in Aiden McGeady being cautioned more often than Rangers’ Cuellar, Weir, Papac, Adam and Ferguson combined.

He issued 12 of Celtic’s 37 SPL yellow cards in four games, or 32% of the total in 17% of the games.

Not that Celtic fans should slip into paranoia, McCurry saves his worst treatment for Hearts; he was the man who allowed Barry Ferguson to control the ball with his arm before putting Rangers ahead in the League Cup semi final, he also decided not to punish Allan McGregor for his outrageous lunge at Callum Elliot at Tynecastle; a clear penalty kick.

Nor did he punish any of the five Rangers players who left the field to celebrate with their fans after a goal against Celtic in October.


Perhaps a spell cooling his heals in the lower leagues will allow him to rediscover his focus.

It would not be an important weekend in the SPL without some old transfer story surrounding a Celtic player being regurgitated by the media; you could set your watch by it. Such is the curse of having good players, I suppose.

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Posted by Paul67 at 3:36 PM :: 

186 Comments:
  • At 15/02/08 15:39, Blogger dontbrattbackinanger said…

    The old media? They are not worth a single stitch in my greenandwhite scarf.

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:43, Blogger The Narrowbhoat Tim said…

    Podium?

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:44, Blogger The Narrowbhoat Tim said…

    Wow a second that's a first if you know what I mean

    Confusing CSC

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:44, Blogger The Man at The Chip Shop said…

    missed?

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:46, Blogger logger 'GG said…

    It's been a good start to the year.
    Well handled transfer window.
    Return to scintillating form.
    Scoring goals.
    Making profit.

    Now we just need to win the SPL.

    'GG

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:51, Blogger dumbhoy said…

    I think you'll find that Mike the Baptist will be offered more opportunity to 'maintain the gap'. The chances of him having to take in the delights of Stirling Albion or Stranraer seem remote indeed.

    Big Jock New........that you had to beat 12 men every game, was not afraid to say so and made sure the players responded accordingly.

    Wonder if the CPS/Strathclyde's Finest are following El Baptista to check his patterns of association.






    Ooops, nearly passed out there holding my breath!

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:52, Blogger The Narrowbhoat Tim said…

    Should be a good game on Saturday, the Cousins of William are finding a bit of form and some of the Bhoys will be fighting for a place in the Barca game. 3-1 for the Bhoys Skippy first goal.

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:53, Blogger Hoople said…

    I never make predictions.

    Celtic 3 Hearts 0

    Celtic 2 Barcelona 0

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:54, Blogger Shoot that dug said…

    Excellent post, Paul, as this site is widely recognised as one of the more balanced Celtic forums, your post hits the nail on the head. It is what a lot of decent people have wanted aired for some time now, myself included, though to class myself in the decent bracket is pushing it. The Rev McCurry should hang his head in shame if he IS a man of God. The booking of nine of our players in one match, when we were spineless, says it all about the excuse for a man. High time people like him were put under scrutiny without the accusers themselves being accused of paranoia. Well said.

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:55, Blogger dannybhoy67 said…

    thats why we're paranoid!

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:55, Blogger Subterranean said…

    Cadizzy,
    I'm usually in Babbity's before Celtic home matches.
    Chris

     
  • At 15/02/08 15:59, Blogger Cadizzy said…

    from previous post

    DBBIA, they were in with Phil (JRS) and I before and after the Aberdeen game last month. Andy was also there (he now lives in Warrington enjoying a life of leisure).

    The McCurry stats jump out at you indeed. It remains to be seen if the old media pick up on this article in the same eager way they did with the "no clean sheet away from home" story.

    Learning a lesson from Dumbhoy, I won't hold my breath.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:00, Blogger valencia bhoy said…

    Paul 67,
    I presume the transfer story you're referring to is "McGeady advised to leave to become superstar"?
    When I saw the headline screaming at me I thought, here we go again. So after reading the article in which Brian Kerr is interviewed I cannot actually locate the point when he advises him to leave.
    Sure, he talks about worldwide recognition being more apparent with Henrik but as far as I can tell he is surmising that Aiden WON'T leave and is not critical of this.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:05, Blogger oldtim67 said…

    Paul67.

    I'm glad you've taken the bull by the horns and had a dig at the injustice Celtic suffer from the MIB,especially by the reverend McCurry,I'm maybe doing an injustice to the protestant faith, by calling him reverand,Charlatan would be more appropriate,for that evil man of the cloth.

    Well said Paul,I hope you carry on having a go at them,when it's called for.

    These people need to be highlighted when they Favour one team over another,but saying that,he seems to be favouring ONE team over all others.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:11, Blogger Cadizzy said…

    Valencia Bhoy, this is the story I read on Fans FC. Like you, I could find nothing that advocated Aiden leaving Celtic.

    Star McGeady set for lengthy Celtic stay
    10:16 February, 15, 2008
    Ex-Ireland boss Brian Kerr believes Aiden McGeady will be in no hurry to leave the Bhoys

    The 21-year-old has come to the attention of a host of top clubs this season with some impressive displays, leading to fears that he may be leaving the Scottish champions.

    Kerr told the Daily Record however: "Aiden is a Celtic fan and a Celtic kid, so you can see him staying there for the rest of his career.

    "He wants to stay and if the lad enjoys the environment and playing regularly then he might be happy enough."

    Sub/Chris,all going to plan, I should land about 4.30 and will probably make my way to BBs from the airport. I will look out for you

    John

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:12, Blogger EdwardUrsus said…

    DBBIA :- You said "the line crosses into Ayrshire and the train has to stop at a dreary series of Godforsaken, Presbyterian Sh#tholes.
    Substitute Lanarkshire for Ayrshire and Roman Catholic for Presbyterian and then think if it's still an acceptable comment.
    Or is a comment only sectarian when made by a non Celtic fan?
    People in Ayrshire are like people anywhere else, we have good bad and every mix in between.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:13, Blogger Nae Bread come on the 'tic! said…

    Well Said P67 , great that you have run a lead article rather than have the stats remain buried in the blog.

    Do we have any 'friends' in the old media brave enough to stick their heads above the parapet on this one?

    Can Celtic send a dossier to UEFA or would they have to complain to the SPL first. We contribute so much cash to this league that its time we started throwing our weight. Cmon John Reid time to be a bulldog. No More McCurry at Celtic games and Highlight his favours in r*ngers games.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:15, Blogger chennaiseabird said…

    Shoot that dug

    What came first, our "spineless" performance to use your word or the free use of the yellow card?

    What was our alterative, two or three sendings off?

    It was a disappointing day and a disappointing performance from our team, but I'd reserve the word spineless for one person only, and he wasn't wearing a Celtic jersey.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:16, Blogger TheLeftWinger said…

    I'm told Graham Speirs is on Radio Bonkers tonight.

    He normally quotes some of the stats that appear here, although he has tended to portray any current theories of underhand bevahiour as a result of paranoia (although at least he publically acknowledges the previous misdemeanours of the SFA/RFC etc.)

    I would have a listen on my way home from work, but it's a 4.30 finish today, so nae chance.

    Celtic 4 (Take yer pick)
    Hearts 1 (Velicka)

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:16, Blogger Nae Bread come on the 'tic! said…

    Edward Ursus, I back you up on your complaint of Ayrshire + religious comment.

    Nothing to do with football or Celtic and whether intended or not it looks like a sectarian comment to me !

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:19, Blogger hamptontim said…

    Good post Paul.

    With regard to McCurry, the SPL should remember that Juventus actually got relegated and a league title 'rubbed out' for picking and choosing their referees.

    The argument isn't necessarily 'is McCurry corrupt' - the argument should be that everything should be seen to be above board and that any 'anomolies' need to be exposed and questioned - at a higher level than the SPL if necessary.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:20, Blogger Paul67 said…

    Shoot that dug, excellent, balance critical review, thanks :-)

    I would disassociate McCurry’s pastoral work from his refereeing, “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”

    Valencia bhoy, I am unfamiliar with the article.

    Edward, I am with you on that one.

    DBBIA, I missed your earlier comment, now deleted. Language and more!

    Nae Bread, all thanks to TrueTim.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:22, Blogger dontbrattbackinanger said…

    EdU- you're right- sectarianism is unacceptable in all its forms.

    I am happy to concede that the likes of Cumnock are no longer Presbyterian, and the next time I'm on the train I shall get off to correct my impression that they are neither Godforsaken, nor lavatorial.

    I'm happy to go back and delete the post. Too nice a day for falling out.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:28, Blogger Tic Talk said…

    The `paranoid` accusation levelled at us has had its affect in at least one way. Namely that many Celtic fans are at too gentle in their criticism of unarguable bias for fear of being seen as unreasonable. We need to back up our subjective views with objective information. For this reason, I would like to see a few more of the articles like Paul`s above giving unarguable statistics like those above concerning McCurry. Furthermore, we KNOW that a significant factor in Celtic`s home form in the CL is the positive support given by the crowd.We know ,also, that the media fosters many negative feelings towards our team and, inevitably, some of this rubs off on us and means that we do not transmit the positive feelings that our team`s current form, certainly,deserves.So, let`s have many more positive posts and don`t be scared in the pubs, for fear of the old paranoia nonsense, of telling it as it is. Rangers football club DID have a shameful policy of discrimination for many,many years and. to the best of my awareness, have NEVER uttered a word of apology about the shameful nature of such a policy.There are, of course, many other `snippets` which are either ignored or glossed over by the establishment (why, for instance,did Scotland and Rangers wear the same coloured socks? Why `Light Blues` when they patently are NOT IE Scotland are the Dark Blues and the country`s other team are the light Blues). I believe it is up to us to confront this institutionalised bias and articles like Paul`s give us the information to do so.Incidentally, we ARE better than Hearts so will almost certainly beat them and we have a slight chance against Barca.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:28, Blogger Parkheadcumsalford said…

    Paul,

    While my brain agrees with you about the Heart's game's importance (years of listening to Mr Stein), my heart says that the Barca game is THE game. I feel if we can turn on the style we have been producing of late against them, we will take such confidnece from it that we will carry everything before us for the rest of the season.

    Wasn't a childhood friend of McCurry defending him on here a couple of weeks back? Could he come on again and give us his opinion, given the stats that are being provided? It does, on the face of it, look really damning.

    Going back to the last thread and the monies involved. As someone clueless in accountancy, am I right in thinking that because our debt has come down from £15m to £6m, that we have repaid the bank £9m from our overall profit?

    By the way, I may be able to make BBs on Wednesday. When do folk gather there for an evening game?

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:29, Blogger Cadizzy said…

    Edward, I posted this on the previous article
    "I wonder if Rangers fans would see the headline below as being evidence of an anti Rangers bias at the BBC
    'Rangers drop out of rich list'"

    If I am not mistaken, you are a Rangers fan. What is your take on the headline? Is it them taking the opportunity to be negative about Rangers or is it them avoiding saying something about positive about Celtic?

    Are we all paranoid?

    John

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:30, Blogger Thom The Thim said…

    Perhaps those stats should be forwarded to the SFa for their comments, plus a courtesy copy to UEFA.

    I saw the Australian Prime Minister making an emotional public apology to the aborigines, on behalf of successive governments for the discrimination and other forms of maltreatment visited upon them.

    I won't join the breath holding club awaiting similar from the south side bigot's brethren.

    There is no statute of limitations on ethnic persecution. The sins of the father were continued by the sons.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:30, Blogger goldstar10 said…

    Well done Paul for highlighting this.
    Every time I see the Calum Elliot incident I am lost for words how a penalty and red card were not awarded, incompetence in the extreme, or is there more to it than incompetence?

    You could also have added over-ruling the linesman at Ibrox to award a goal in the Rangers v St Mirren game.

    Regarding the booking count- makes me so angry that words defy me.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:32, Blogger The Narrowbhoat Tim said…

    DBBIA

    I am glad you got that straighten out, can I go back to eating Ayrshire Bacon now that the Fatwa against all things Ayrshire has been called off.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:32, Blogger h.bosch said…

    I know it's not the same, but the comparison is valid just the same. When it was the metropolitan police it was institutional racism. In Scottish football it is 'institutional sectarianism'. It has cost us more than one league title in recent years in my opinion.

    McCurry getting twice as many Rangers games as any other top flight referee is not a statistical blip.

    The bookings point made by you Paul is not a statistical blip. The bookings of our best players-McGeady being a particular example would be laughable were it not so patently ridiculous, that a player who opposition players get license to kick gets booked for the slightest misdemeanour or none.

    Penalty not given against Aberdeen, the most ridiculous decision since Lennon's stone waller v Rangers. Referees choosing their final matches before retirement, Cadete/Farry fiasco, Tommy Burns 'tapping up' v Wattie. Tynecastle linesman flagging a dive. Scottish press complicity in laptop loyal stories/ mischief making stories re Celtic. A thousand "offside" Bobby Lennox goals.

    There are many, many more.

    We are paranoid and we are entitled to be. We should scrutinise and criticise all of these things and this site, KDS and others do it admirably.

    I think we will still overtake them this season but they will be calling in every favour they possibly can. Aiden will be booked if he so much as looks at the ref.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:34, Blogger canamalar said…

    Paul67,
    well done with this article, you've stuck your neck out here, as the blog is now in danger of being dismissed as just another paranoid tim site.
    As for my censure, I've seen worse, but point taken I will not transgress again.
    Ed I agree, and you are right, but the difference is the catholics were usually placed in such places, as opposed to the presbyterian's who ruined nice places yuckle chuckle chortle guffaw guffaw.
    Only kidding Ed.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:44, Blogger Cadizzy said…

    the narrowbhoat tim, anybody who was in a position to lift a fatwah would almost certainly impose another one on you if you were eating bacon

    h.bosch. lots of good examples that show we are not in fact paranoid. As you say, there are many more.
    The name.....artist or LA policeman?

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:46, Blogger WGS said…

    If any laptop loyal decide it is yet another paranoid site then two words Bobby Tait. It's amazing what gets told when referees retire and make after dinner speeches.


    McCurry??? Stats speak for itself regarding Rangers this season. Six games refereed this season. Harly any bookings. Stats say it all.

    Smith like Souness do try and have some sort of hold over the refs in this country.

    Return of Bobo tomorrow maybe??

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:47, Blogger goldstar10 said…

    Cut and paste link to Elliot assault-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVpJOtfX0jA

    Look how close McCurry was to the incident....15 yards at most?

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:49, Blogger Collie said…

    Paul

    Aboot yer opeenion, ye aver...ah totally disagree!...
    Fur whit yer sayin'...sure wid dilute da Purse ....o' li'l aul' me!


    Ah'm Sorry tae say this...But,
    "Ah'm no Sorry at Awe!"

    An' if Ah by sayin'' dat.... Ah Hope... Ah'm no Breakin' Some Law?

    But Ah'm an Honest wee dug... an' a Practisin' Coward,
    An' if ah wiz forced intae a fight....
    Then, Ah'd Pick .... LESLIE HOWARD!

    Hooever...

    Ah disagree stroangly wi' yer considered contention...
    Dat beatin' Hearts... an no Barca,
    is da Maist Important... as ye mention!

    Na!...Barca is mair important, an' whom we must defeat.... fur it's unthinkable tae even tae contemplate, such an embarrassin' feat!

    Fur we must progress in da CL Cup,
    And Beat Barca up,
    Fur dat's where da Gelt is... fur dis narky wee pup!

    If ye must ask why...
    Well, here is fda REAL REASON...

    Ah'll tell ye no Lie!


    'Cos... ah'm goin' Haufers wi' Nutsy... ma Pal....

    Who,believe it or not...is romancin' da daughter... o' Arlene Dahl!

    Ah wiz talkin' tae Arlene jist da ither day....
    An' she told me.... tell him tae keep well away....

    Fur tae her dochter, he's a bad Influence... which ah canny deny!!.....

    Fur, he ayeways hiz his finger in some Shady Pie!

    But tae me he's a pal... wan, who's aye guid fur a Grin..

    An' HE an' Me are bettin' oan Celtic... fur a Wednesday Win!

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin',Awaggin'

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:51, Blogger Celtic_First said…

    DBBIA

    You're so way off the mark it's unreal.

    The train doesn't even go through Cumnock. You're getting mixed up with New Cumnock, and I have absolutely no idea, none whatsoever, how a lovely wee place like New Cumnock could merit a comment like the one you made earlier.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:52, Blogger ElDiegoBhoy said…

    This post has been removed by the author.

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:57, Blogger Tic Talk said…

    It is quite obvious that Paul`s post is proving cathartic. For that reason (and to further purge our natural anger towards injustice) I suggest that many more on here do as I have just done and email the SFA asking for some explanation on the unarguable 6 Rangers` games being offciated at by McCurry and and thier viewpoint on the strange anomally of yellow cards issued to Celtic. I ralise that a `no comment` is the most likely response but their knowing that we are not giving up in the quest for fairness WILL have some effect.email: info@scottishfa.co.uk

     
  • At 15/02/08 16:58, Blogger dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Please, please , please can I put it on record that I have absolutely nothing against the good folk of Ayrshire.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:00, Blogger Mick said…

    Barca 72
    Barca Bears Testimonial Update Print E-mail
    Wednesday, 28 March 2007

    Barca Bears Testimonial Update

    Friday saw the first of many Testimonial events arranged to mark the 35th. Anniversary of our great victory in
    Barclelona on 24th. May 1972 and what a start.

    The event took place in Ayr, the heart of Ayrshire, which has been a Rangers stronghold for many years. The event
    took the form of a Sportsman’s Dinner, held in Ayr & Craigie Bowling Club and was an outstanding success from start to finish.
    Entertainment for the evening was provided by three outstanding after dinner speakers in the shape of Davy Wilson (a Rangers Legend),
    Bobby Tait (The original Mason in the black) and John Robottom.

    WHAT?

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:03, Blogger pablophanque said…

    Probably THE funniest Yoochoob video.............EVER !

    Transfer Deadline Day At Ipox

    pablophanque

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:03, Blogger Cadizzy said…

    Re Mick's post, DBBIA asked me to post this

    "only in Ayrshire!"

    Kidding!!!

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:04, Blogger Paul67 said…

    Parkheadcumsalford, I don’t think the accusations against McCurry need to stretch back to his childhood or other private matters.

    Your reading of the accounts is a tad over simplified. Profit bears a fleeting relationship with cash, as player spend, for example, usually comes off cash immediately but will hit profile over the period of a contract (amortisa…….).

    Cheers, goldstar10, I was looking for that link..

    Canamalar, aye, I’ve heard worse too.

    Collie, you make an excellent point.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:06, Blogger Mick said…

    Missed out "were you saying" :-)

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:09, Blogger canamalar said…

    Tic Toc,
    I did ask the question about the disproportionate number of games ref'd on snyde last night. Two things surprised me,
    First, that I was allowed to ask.
    Second, although their interpretations of my line of questioning, made my opinion sound a bit extreme, I was not dismissed as paranoid nor ridiculed as normally happens to such questions.
    I'm not sure whats going on there but I find it very unusual.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:10, Blogger McManus69 said…

    This post has been removed by the author.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:12, Blogger Gordon_J said…

    Good article Paul. It's totally true that Saturday is the more important game, although I have to admit that I am looking forward to Wednesday more.

    If anyone wants a good laugh of a Friday afternoon, have a look on Follow Follow. They honestly can't understand how we can have reduced our debt when our profits have fallen. They think the media is being taken in by some sort of tim conspiracy!

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:12, Blogger canamalar said…

    Paul67,
    what I ment was I've seen worse on here not censured.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:16, Blogger The Man at The Chip Shop said…

    Pablo

    I have left a very wet office chair. Thank god I am wearing dark trousers.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:18, Blogger itzallova said…

    Very brave article, well done Paul.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:18, Blogger itzallova said…

    This post has been removed by the author.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:21, Blogger pablophanque said…

    TMATCS, it needs several viewings to fully appreciate the full magnificence of it all........ :o)

    pablophanque

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:22, Blogger ian_in_budapest said…

    Pablophanque, that was awesome, I haven't laughed so much in a long time.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:23, Blogger Celtic_First said…

    Pablo

    Next time, warn people that viewing with an orange in the mouth is potentially hazardous.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:26, Blogger Paul67 said…

    Canamalar, I don’t read everything, in fact, I don’t read everyone; but I read you.

    Itzallova, thank you.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:27, Blogger Collie said…

    canamalar

    Nae squawkin' an' girnin'... we dinna waant dat!
    If ye mak a Faux Pas...den ye hivtae live wi' dat!

    We've awe suffered da lash o' a Mr.Paul dilute...

    It's da price we must pay...if wi' our words,... we pollute.

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin, Awaggin'

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:30, Blogger dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Pablo- tres amusant, even if it is a variation on a theme first done last year where AH was a Sheffield Utd fan letting rip about Tevez etc.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:31, Blogger TrueTim said…

    Paul67 -

    knew I missed a stat -


    Barry Ferguson has not been booked this year.

    Yes I am talking about the same Barry Ferguson who was involved in a televised assault at Aberdeen.

    Anyway, another 5 goals tomorrow Celtic - goal difference could be worth a point this year.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:32, Blogger goldstar10 said…

    Absolutely priceless, Pablo.

    Whoever thought of comparing that evil, egotistic, despotic, fantasising psychopath to Adolf Hitler is a genius!

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:38, Blogger billy bhoy said…

    Paul,

    your article compels me to tell the tale a Jambo collegue told me about 3 years ago.

    McCury was one of the guest speakers at a Sportsmans Dinner at Tynecastle. Among his anecdotes was

    (A) I've reffed several Hearts v Hibs matches and am proud to say that they (Hibs) haven't won any of them!

    (B) I loved my (recently departed) father dearly - but I never forgave him for calling me Michael!

    I've been watching him closely since then. I'm just amazed it's taken so long for him to finally get the notoriety his performances over a long time have justified.

    Funnily enough, I'm not saying I think he deliberately cheats. I think it would be hard for any of us to be impartial in his position. I say to all...imagine you are refereeing at Celtic Park tomorrow and Scott McDonald "does a Bazza" and volleys the ball into the net. Do you see an infringement or is it "hand to ball!.

    Our problem is ,and has always been, that MOST of the refs will MOST of the time not see it our way!! unfortunately, that all adds up. think 2003.

    My other worry though is that this is, I believe, his last season and the last thing we need in a tight race is kamikaze "couldn't care less what they think of me anymore" type refereeing ala 2003.

    as has been said before though if we contineu banging in the goals it will keep the stress at bay!!

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:46, Blogger Paul67 said…

    Billy bhoy, good point. It is ludicrous to assume that referees and jounros are the only football minded people in Scotland who are impartial. I’m not, and neither are you, and we are both fair minded individuals.

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:47, Blogger pablophanque said…

    If ever there was a wee quiz designed for this site, it's this one !!!!!

    Geography Quiz

    pablophanque

     
  • At 15/02/08 17:51, Blogger dannybhoy67 said…

    Been looking at the rich list there and here’s what I reckon: if we played in a big league i.e. EPL
    Take our £75.2 mill and subtract the Champs league money, say roughly £15 mill that’s £60mill
    We have to be honest first season we probably wouldn’t make the Champs league
    Add roughly £40 mill for EPL football rights, up to £100mill.

    Extra exposure we can add more to the shirt sponsorship, kit makers etc, conservatively I’m thinking £15 mill a season (very conservative!) that’s us up to £115 mill.


    Extra exposure also means more merchandise etc, that’s say conservatively £5mill a year.


    Now with no euro football which I think inevitably we would have after a season or so, I reckon turnover could be around £125mill first year, £145 when we get to the Champs league again. That puts us up to tenth and of course the “new” fans etc I haven’t factored in. That’s where we should be and it’s so annoying we aren’t!

    Realistically we should be, could be the 3rd biggest club in Europe based on turnover . We should be able to compete with the big boys and leave our destiny to football matters rather than the money men. Sorry if someone already said this but how can a PLC be denied a market to trade in within the EU? I’m sure we would win any court case we went for and its ramifications would be more widespread then the Bosman case. The old boys club that’s UEFA know this, we know this, it will happen!


    Hail Hail!

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:10, Blogger stebhoy said…

    all this talk od biased referees is stagnent - its been going on for years - now we have the blog its gathering momentum - more people know BUT.......what can we do about it ?

    Comprehensive stats would be the starting point.

    Secondly - get them off to Celtic to challenge the authorites

    any other suggestions?

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:15, Blogger Jim the Tim said…

    EdwardUrsus @16:12
    Well said Edward! I didn't see the original comment, but this is a good call by you and I totally agree with you. I think references to 'Huns' etc., etc. are not in any Celtic Supporter's interests and only serve to continue an ongoing process of desentisisation and polarisation.

    One of the things I like about this site is that good people like yourself, despite being a Rangers fan, can air an intelligent (and often good-humoured) view on all matters Celtic without being hounded.

    I think the Celtic/Rangers football rivalry is fantastic, but lets leave the gutter press knuckle-dragging remarks where they belong. I do know my history, and am proud of my Scots/Irish (i.e. 100% Celtic) heritage, but I hope our future history sees Glasgow and the West of Scotland celebrating a City unified by football rather than divided by the past.

    Yours in Celtic,

    Jim.

    P.S. Edward, I still think we will win the League despite your current position at the top of the table. :-)

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:16, Blogger EdwardUrsus said…

    DBBIA :- As to lavatorial or godforsaken you may well be right and I wouldn't argue at all especially since the closure of the mines in the south of the county where there used to ne communities good or bad, there is now a wasteland. As you say it's too good a day to argue and I hope there is no ill feeling caused by either of us.

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:17, Blogger The Narrowbhoat Tim said…

    Pablo

    112 score

    That was hard, made it to level 10, it threw up a few places I never heard off. It was hard to be accurate with the cross-hairs especially when I haven't had a drink yet to steady my hand.

    Marco Polo CSC

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:17, Blogger EdwardUrsus said…

    Cadizzy :- You would have to ask one of the press who post on here about that one, though the way things are going I'm waiting on the headline "Rangers drop out of poor list" :-)

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:24, Blogger EdwardUrsus said…

    DBBIA @ 16.58 :- Now you are saying our women are to ugly to hold against you? Only kidding.
    (though a lot of them are) :-)

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:26, Blogger dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Edward- I am happy to apologise for any offence my post may have caused.

    Til the next time, mon copain..:~>

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:29, Blogger rimtimtim said…

    What makes these statistics about bookings all the more infuriating and despairing and depressing is that these referee killjoys are singling out one of the best talents that a Scottish club has produced in years.

    And not only is Aiden not a dirty player but he is not even a narky, greetin'- faced persistently moaning type from the Scottish game of yesteryear, like that wee nyaff Strachan.....

    Only joking if you are lurking Gordon!!

    Best wishes for a satisfactory recovery for your mother Martin42. Our elderly people are our treasure and should be treated as such.

    I split my sides with that video Pablo.

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:30, Blogger EdwardUrsus said…

    JimTheTim :- I agree with all your post except the last line :-)
    On a slightly more serious note I have to say that I don't know of any other Rangers/Celtic site that shows the same level of tolerance and openness as CQN. Kudos to Paul for making it that way.

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:31, Blogger canamalar said…

    Paul67,
    I'm going to grab that as a compliment.
    Collie yer right it was a childish petulantn greeting faced wee moan by myself and I am now apologising.

    Paul67 my sincere apologies for my petulant whings, along with the dodgy profanities, I will attempt desist with petulance in all future posts.

    and again I will congratulate you on the the best, most balanced and free thinking of all celtic forums

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:43, Blogger Collie said…

    Canamalar

    See! Ye ur a Toff!....
    At yer such a nice wee apology, nae wan Could Scoff~

    Any Blog is only as GUID, as those dat's in it,
    And da last t'ng we waant, is tae be caught weerin', a Dirty Simmit!

    Fur Angel Wings, is whit tae which we aspire,
    An' Oor Patter should aye be....

    Above da Muck and Mire!

    Saint collie o' Las Vegas
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:44, Blogger b2k said…

    Totally off any subject but just in case anyone can help.

    I'm doing family tree stuff and so is my sister and a cousin. I wanted to use Google docs. to share files like downloaded Birth certificates but they files are either too big or just don't display within Google docs. Anyone any thoughts on how to have a few people doing a family tree withoutbuying into some online family tree service?

    Otherwise the lurkings been good today andthe Ibrox bunker film superb. HH

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:45, Blogger pablophanque said…

    Ted, Ted, Ted, how many more times do you have to be told ?????
    It's CELTIC...............rangers.

    *washes hands after having to type that*

    pablophanque

    Ps, still luv ya big guy :o)

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:50, Blogger barcabhoy said…

    paul67...

    an interesting time for you to raise the mccurry issue....i don't remember you making comment on refereeing issues before in a lead story...are you reflecting concern from behind the scenes at parkhead about mccurry...

    ... on a second point, if i believed that there was an individual who was maliciously conspiring to deprive my shareholders of the financial returns that the companies efforts deserved, then i think i would take action to protect the shareholder interests......

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:51, Blogger mickybhoy said…

    canamalar
    As an occasional caller to radio snyde masel I know how daunting
    the actual call can be
    You are told to switch off any radios and you hear the program through the phone
    I am now sure you have heeded some of the advice and I will bet my boots that the next time you call your crib sheet will be right in front of you
    One of my fundamentalist calls was totally highjacked by Andy Walker
    and I never got back in.
    Ask for the right to reply when posing the question
    Look on the bright side, you will be back bigger, better and prepared next time
    Fundamentalist csc
    Ps I have just despatched an e mail
    mumping about the use of the word Paranoid when describing celtic fans and the word should be banned from the program
    mickthebaptist csc

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:54, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    Pablo - i was managing to keep the laughter contained until the cheat quip, not laughed that hard in a while... Thank You!!

    Paul67 Bravo for the article....

    I disagree with those saying its just because he supports the huns and its hard to be impartial. .. the decisions have not been due to this... watch the 3-1 reverse to them again if you can.. id say 7 of the 9 bookings would be overturned if we could appeal. Aiden got booked for being fouled !!

    mcurry is a cheat, plain and simple.

    We need to highlight this, on blogs such as this, on other websites and at our matches... If we keep it in the limelight, it will be harder for him to cheat, although judging by some of the other "referees" there are a few ready take his place.

    rangers will win on sunday, regardless how they play because the cheat mcurry will not allow them to lose.

    this may have been going on for years but i dont care, it needs to be stopped. If a bully kept hitting you every day would you just get used to it because if happened all the time? no youd know him clean out.

    remeber what uefa said about the secterianism from the huns "its been going on for years in scotland, what can we do"

    Hail Hail.

    We will still win the league by 10 points mc-vindaloo, so roon ye.

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:56, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    know him clean out should of course be knock him clean out - although violence doesnt solve anything kids.

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:56, Blogger EdwardUrsus said…

    Pablophanque :- Only if you are going by alphabetical order :-)

    I wonder how many folk on here are like me in reverse and even if playing at Ibrox would describe it as a Celtic/Rangers game.
    All the best and hope you find the sunshine soon.

     
  • At 15/02/08 18:59, Blogger Collie said…

    Paul

    Speakin' of some player, in August, dat we ur pursuin'....

    Here's a list o' some players, in Summer,we're WOOIN'!

    Der's a noo Risin' Son...
    Der's a Dick in der Too....
    And in Hamilton fair... der's no only Wan... But noo, der is Two!

    collie.
    Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'

     
  • At 15/02/08 19:09, Blogger May67 said…

    Pablo

    Priceless

     
  • At 15/02/08 19:17, Blogger Michael Fagan said…

    Good evening gentlemen.

    Excellent article about McCurry, the man is blatant in his bias.

    There are some of you out there who think his religion is unrelated to his judgement, and as has been pointed out, it is riddiculous to expect referees and journos not to continue looking at their team through tinted specs. I know that I would certainly favour Celtic if given the chance as an MIB or Guttersnipe.

    Therefore it is with much excitement that I look forward to seeing a match report for a Celtic V Rangers game at Parkhead, where the match is handled in an 'even handed' fashion by match referee and Catholic Priest ,Father Patrick Murphy.

    MFSTQ

     
  • At 15/02/08 19:24, Blogger Dennis 47 said…

    Nine bookings in a game in which we were spineless? You've got to ask yourself whether or not the two were connected.

     
  • At 15/02/08 19:26, Blogger Michael Fagan said…

    I know it is lowering the tone, but I for one would love to see some stats on how many referees are from a 'minority' background and how many of them ever get to referee us vs TFOD

     
  • At 15/02/08 19:29, Blogger Parkheadcumsalford said…

    Paul,

    My apologies. I didn't mean to suggest that we dig into McCurry's past (or even less, private matters). It was just that I remember feeling that he seemed a decent sort. Sheer incompetence it is then.

    I see you've managed to bring up the A word. I should have realised by now that it would have sme part to play in all this.

    As others have mentioned today, Paul, my thanks for keeping me and many more like me well informed about all things Celtica.

    And I hope your granmother is keeping better.

     
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