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Wee Barry got a new lease of life with Walter, Paul. He's a good player.
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Edward
You had me spluttering when I read your comment in the early hours that Paul was soon to "move over" Then I realised this was not a suggestion of a selling of his soul but merely a reference to a change of blogging medium. That's all right then.
On a serious point however can you tell me that you feel comfortable with the rather obvious assistance your team appear to be getting from all quarters this season. As I said earlier on the blog this season has gone a long way to changing my stance re conspiracy theories.
For example and just of the top of my head in games I have watched there has occured the following.
Hearts v Rangers Tynecastle (Mc Curry) Mc Gregor assaults Calum Elliot No foul no booking ref in clear line of sight.
Gretna v Celtic Mc Donald celebrates winner clear distance from crowd of own supporters and inside the field of play -yellow card
Rangers v Gretna Cousin scores and celebrates with crowd No yellow card
Hearts v Rangers CIS semi (Mc Curry) Handball by Ferguson no foul Goal for Rangers
Hearts V Rangers CIS semi Adam knocks ball from goalkeeper's hands. No booking
Aberdeen v Rangers (Kenny Clark) Ferguson grabs Mc Guire by throat no action taken.
Celtic v Motherwell? (Mc Curry)Mc Donald shakes head at Mc Curry for non award of penalty Yellow card
Inverness v Celtic Niculae and Pressley tangle in penalty area. Both fall to ground Penalty to Inverness
Aberdeen v Celtic ( Craig Thomson) Buss has arms around JVOH hauls him to ground. No penalty awarded.
Mc Geady brushes Aberdeen player with arm Yellow card
HIbs v Celtic (Ian Brines) Hibs right back kicks Mc Geady on back of calf Brines 5/6 yards away in direct line - no booking
Hogg wrestles arms around Mc Donald inside penalty area - no award
Hogg wrestles arms around Mc Donald outside penalty area - free kick to Hibs
Boruc applauds Hibs fans at close of play. Yellow card
Rangers v Aberdeen
Whittaker pulls back Aberdeen player breaking free – no booking Kenny Clark)
Boyd scores v Dundee Utd CIS Cup Final - leaves pitch to celebrate – - no booking (Kenny Clark)
Cuellar rugby tackles Utd player in box - no penalty.
Wednesday following Cup final Partick’s goalscorer booked for goal celebration
Add in your Gretna postponement, withdrawal of fit players from the Scotland squad and an unseemly campaign to extend the seasn and do you really feel come season's end that you'll truly be able to celebrate winning fairly and squarely?
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Podium?
**yay**
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Paul67 :- Are you starting a new site, Rangers Ancient News?
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Celtic First, agree. He is a good player, in fact I'll go further, he is a good judge on manager too.
Welcome enmac, what kept you?
Maryhill's No 5 correct.
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Paul67 an article about Rangers history. Surely a first for CQN.
I have to say it is not how I recall it. Murray could have had ten in a row imho if he had not already jettisoned Walter Smith due to his failure in Europe. Walter Smith done for Dick Advocaat what Alex Mc Leish done for PLG: Kept the seat warm. I´d defy any club to win their championship under these circumstances.
Murray wanted to establish Rangers in Europe. Back then they were bigger and better than anything that Scotland could offer and wanted to show that they were one of the big players in Europe. The SPL was boring them. Nobody offered any challenges mmmhhh I wonder why lets ask Jim Farry. It never happened. In fact Murray´s 1st reign as Rangers chairman is sandwiched between two Scottish team competing in European cup finals. That´s the effect he has had on Scottish football. Well that´s what the history books will ultimately write.
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Derbyshirebhoy :- I haven't seen most of the incidents you describe, what I will say though is that if I see something I think the ref has got wrong then I'm happy to say so.
On two of the incidents you mention I've already commented on one, the penalty incident in the LC, ont he grabbing by the throat there can be no argument under the rules of the game it was a clear red card offence.
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Edward, ho ho ho.
Celtic Quick News, if your captain doesn't rate your manager I think we should be told.
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Ed,
whats your take on Farrygate ?
does it dilute the pride you have for the Rangers NIAR achievement?
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Paul67 :- I'm glad you took that comment in the spirit it was meant, there was meant to be a smiley at the end of it.
In Mr Fergusons defence he was a young boy at the time who felt he should have been playing more than he was, I think his views would be very different now.
I do think that Mr Smith has to take a lot of the responsibility for us failing to get ten in a row, my own view is that he was far too loyal to favourite players who had done it for him up to that point but who should have been replaced before it cam to that season.
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ANNAOAN :- I think Mr Farry was a disgrace and badly let down himself, his employers and your own club who if nothing else had the right to expect things to be dealt with in a proffessional manner.
It doesn't diminish my pride in our generation of domination in the least.
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Ed,
Walter Smith was replaced before that season finished. In fact I think DA imminent arrival in the summer was already announced well before the end of the season.
DA was to do what Walter couldn´t and that was to establish Rangers as a top CL side. Hence Walters announced departure.
I think if Murray had kept his mouth shut until the end of the season. You might well have had 10 in a row. It was a Murray mistake
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ED,
I appreciate your honesty. I know it´s a tentative link regarding the Cadete signing and stopping niar but how many of these previous shenanigans helped the Gers to their 5 stars and counting ;-)
I have to say that for a smart observant and astute lad you seem to suffer a lot from ArseneWengeritis.
I´m sure if Derbyshirebhoy was to post youtube links regarding the above discretions and you witnessed every one and had the same opinion as Derbyshirebhoy that winning a treble this year would be just as enjoyable as any previous win for Rangers was for you.
Did you vote for Maggie Thatcher? I only ask as I know many that voted for her not for her policies but basically because they didn´t want to vote for a loser. You know so they could say that they backed a winner.
absurdHUHCSC
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ANNAOAN :- If I were to watch them all I may well come to the same conclusions as Derbyshirebhoy and if so would say so. (please don't anyone post links to them all as I wont watch them all)
To be honest if we lift the treble this year then I'll be delighted I know that may not seem sportsmanlike to some but that's the way I am and it would be wrong to pretend otherwise.
If you don't mind me saying so your last line is probably the biggest insult I've been given on this site :-)
I detested the womans policies and think that huge swathes of the country have still to recover from the damage she inflicted.
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Derbyshirebhoy...
Far too much focus on bad refereeing and unfair treatment, it's always been that way which is why a certain Mr Stein once told the assembled Celtic team...
"If you're good enough, the referee doesn't matter"
Conspiracy theories abound and there's plenty of fire to fuel them but we need to just accept that it's normal when you've been blessed enough to either play for or support Celtic.
Let McCurry, Brines, Douglas, Clark & Co do their worst, Let ours be better players for it.
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Ed
She'd have loved all that 'quintessentially British' palaver.
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Paul,
You're a sly old fox.
With all the red top journalists who drop into CQN - you dont think they would use any material from here for the following days back pages do you?
Are they brave enough to have a go at the current rangers skipper.
I BET THEY AINT.
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Ed,
The maggieT question is a reasonable analogy though Ed dont you think? How you and other bluenoses can reconcile the historically recorded injustices but still continue supporting the Gers without any fear of losing credibility. Which again is your choice and I honestly have no problem with it your choice
that is. I couldn´t do it. I am not saying that I am better than you just different.
I really do appreciate your honesty and openness. I will now desist from flogging a dead horse as I know your type well; that when your on your death bed you will demand that a catholic priest gives you the seven sacraments and that your coffin is draped in a green and white bar scarf ;-)
alfieconnCSC
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As someone who is left wing, anti fascist and anti sectarian ...
Ed,
Ibrox is hardly your spiritual home then...;-)
Chris
enigmaCSC
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“I wasn't speaking right or wrong from a moral standpoint but from the practical side of things, if you had lost three players to injury last night do you still think Celtic would have been right to let them play?” Edward
TRANSLATION: Ed’s a good sport and a great guy, and he is totally right “from the practical side of things”, but he doesn’t like all this talk of “moral high ground”. In short, he is rattled, and tries to wave it off with a big humph.
Sorry Ed, just fun and games and a bit of psychology, but it obviously pains you to know that if we have CONVINCED OURSELVES that we “DONE THE RIGHT THING” on Wednesday then it gives us something to USE on Saturday, as apposed to the slightly embarrassing fact that in trying to stop our 3 in a row Rangers are behaving like a spoiled child driven mad by the last 2 seasons, deaf to words like morality and blind to the fact that in seeking special dispensation to beat Celtic this season they are in fact, compromised. They don’t want to see it, but somewhere they know it. So this is where the mind games come in. Why shouldn’t Celtic have a bit of fun rattling their cages on Saturday with the whole Scotland thing. Or the league extension thing. They have compromised themselves, and it’s pathetic.
I can see single goal win for Celtic on Saturday.
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Hello All. I really need a rest after all the posting I've done this week. But I can't stop just yet as it is very important to get you lot to focus on ME rather than your team.
Of course, whenever things are going wrong with your club, I never need to post. I can just sit back and enjoy (aaahhh!!!).
So here's hoping for a Gers win on two counts.
a) We will increase our lead at the top
b) This site will be in meltdown & my poor fingers can have a rest.
Oh, and remember, I am really your friend.
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southbhoy,
I agree with you. There seems to be a lot of people "getting their excuses in early" on here lately. Yes, the refs have favoured Rangers again this season, but failure to win the league (if that indeed is what happens) will be a failure that must be laid at the door of players and management of Celtic FC.
There is only one season in recent years when we can unambiguously say that refereeing decisions cost us the league- that was in 2003, when our Seville team did everything it could have done to win games and score goals, but found itself up against a Rangers squad artificially kept afloat by a series of shocking refereeing decisions. These ranged from a entire half-season of penalties, to having an opponent dismissed in virtually every game, to three pens at Dundee and Andy Davies at Tynecastle.
This season, our points difference can be summed up by us losing a 2 goal lead at ICT, and failures to beat Aberdeen, Hibs and StMirren at home. Refereeing decisions were critical (I mean really game-defining critical) in none of those games.
Curiously, a wee while ago when I brought up the 2003 scandal, Paul67 stated that McLeish's team was not lucky, and that we should accept that he had done a great job in winning that title.
Those were days when those close to the centre of power at Celtic could afford to be generous to Rangers. They were under our thumb. Strangely, now that they are not, I see the conspiracy theories are back in vogue...
Regardless of what happens on Saturday and at the end of the season, we must seriously examine the strategy and decisions taken by those in power at Celtic since June 2007. I guarantee we will learn more of our struggles this season from such an examination than from any rants about referees.
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Italiabhoy
In the interests of accuracy, you will be keen to note that:
1. Andy Davis took his bow in 2005.
2. The Aberdeen defeat was a cup game.
3. Poor refereeing decisions were of the utmost importance in the defeat at Inverness.
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ANNAOAN :- They can drape my coffin in whatever they like I won't be around to see it. Though there is always the joke about deathbed conversion, better to lose one of you than one of us :-)
If anyone want's to complain about that it's a joke and I've heard the punchline applied to both sides.
Subterranian :- Can an athiest have a spiritual home? Ibrox is my footbal;l home and that's it.
Tornachiles :- What's wrong with being pragmatic? It's football we are talking about and I want my team to win, as far as moral high grounds go I'm often suspiceous of thos that claim it.
I would have thought that the fact I ws illing to answer and debate would rule out me taking the humph.
EdwardIrksus :- Have you run out of crayons and need something to occupy you until they bring more? Has it occurred to you that if I didn't post then you would be faced with having to come up with an original thought?
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Celtic First,
1. Apologies, there were so many that seaosn I have inadvertently included Mr Davies
2. I meant DundeeUtd- the effect on points is the same
3. Disagree. We were 2-0 up. No Celtic team should lose against ICT from that position. Skippy's disallowed "goal" should not have been critical to our ability to hold out for a win with such a good start behind us.
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jees gie the guy a break.
poor ed.
isnt it enough that his team are gonna get
rattled at home on saturday and left for dead.
;-)
add to that, the poor dilusional chap doesnt
subscribe to the fact that rangers are
cheats, cads and bounders, but really...
is it any surprise?
as for the ugly mob -
its just the way it always has been and always
will be, and the reason it is so is because people
who could do or say something about it always stay silent.
they are the ones who will burn in hells fire.
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What Celtic have achieved in their history is in despite of the bias we are exposed to and has always been so.
I couldn´t agree more. Especially with June 2007. In fact you can narrow it down to June - August 2007
We really need to beat Rangers at least twice this season and if we do and win the SPL may I add that those lessons should STILL not be forgotten.
Does anybody ever wonder what our historical achievements would be like if we did operate in an open and fair environment?
And shouldn´t we continue to garner evidence 3 bookings this calendar year for the case against them ?
noexcusessmelltheglovemilklemonadechocolateCSC
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Ed
If you have no spiritual home does it mean you think existence is purely physical?
How do you explain falling in love?
Why are people moved to tears by Bach or Monteverdi or Eva Cassidy?
I can picture a wee bhoy with a snottery nose playing with a ball in Queen's Park. It was me, but it doesn't look like anything like me. Therefore, whoever I am, it's not exclusively about the physical me.
Don't get me started on the five ways of St Thomas.
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Ed,
after we have clinched our 23rd title in a row ... you´ll be buried alive ... at your own request :-)
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Celtic_first,
Does a dog that dreams in front of the fire do so spiritually or physically and if so whats the difference ?
Ed,
you have a lot to answer for !!!! :-)
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Aw Naw
Dreams, not just for dugs. A whole new avenue opens up.
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sorry Paul67 this is lifted from The Daily Record. My German buddies are falling about laughing
Aberdeen cyclist attacked with air horns
Mar 27 2008
YOBS used an air horn to assault a cyclist in a bizarre attack.
The man, who has not been named, was so startled by the noise he fell off.
Police hunting the attackers want to talk to three men who helped the victim, who was not hurt in the incident in Wellington Road, Aberdeen, at the weekend.
Tomorrow Jeanie Mc Groarty burns her finger on the frying pan part II
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Celtic_first,
When dugs dream its always the same dream and it has been scientifically proven.
They always dream of making love in the missionary position while reciting Shakespears 116 sonnet ;-)
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Derbyshirebhoy; what a catalogue of events. In the past they could hurt us off the field, in the news and in the SFA offices. Now that we have our "Green House" in order they have to stymie us on the field, big time.
I think the referees are stretching it to the limit because they have witnessed the changing economic power from Rangers to Celtic. To their consternation, they see that the people that they once considered toerags are now triumphing in the Stock Market. And that the scions of John Lawrence are not steering a steady financial path in their Clyde built ship.
You make a very good point there AwNaw about Zsa Zsa´s taste for the continent being a factor in them taking their eye off the ball. Their discipinary record is not the same in Europe however as you point out, because the Rangers ethos always was anti international. Being anti Roman Catholic, which is the biggest single group of people in Europe and indeed the world, how can they hope to enjoy good footballing relations when they are always going to get irked with Johnny Foreigner. Remember the field invasion in Barcelona before their match ended,(I watched that game in Doonan's Camp in Aberfoyle BTW anyone remember it?.) Talk about intimidating!!! That would have disgusted the neutrals watching, the match officials trying to keep order and the opposition team players who will have felt cheated in a European final. Three nationalities against you right away!!!
With Dougal in charge I am fearing the woist Stanley!
Both Zsa Zsa and Bill Struth were from Edinburgh, as was their greatest ever John "Wayne" Greig.
We are the greatest Glasgow club. Queens and Thistle could have been contenders.
However our current manager is from the East coast and theirs is from the West coast. Strachan doesn't come near having any idea what this match means compared to Smith. I don't think Garry Pendrey has a scooby about what it means either, which may sometimes be a good thing, lol.
Oh for
Jimmy McGrory or
Frank McGarvey or
George McCluskey or
Gerry Creaney or
Tommy Coyne or
Frank MacAvennie or
Charlie Nicholas
Probably all born in and around Glasgow.
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CelticFirst :- I don't believe life is purely physical the complexities of the mind or the emotional responses that you point out would tend to show otherwise . I don't believe I have any undying part nor do I believe in any supernatural being or afterlife.
I'm not being pejorative using the word supernatural I mean it in the sense of above natural laws.
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ANNAOAN :- I think I would request it long before that lol
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Edward:
I am surprised you haven't mentioned Scott McDonald's offside goal against Falkirk when we scraped a win up there!
If a team plays well enough, the referee doesn't matter. The only way a referee can have an influence is if you let the other team dominate you and get into the box a lot, or if you dive into silly challenges and give the referee backchat.
A sound defensive display with a disciplined show from us and its in our own hands, something we should be doing anyways.
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My friends in Celtic -
today the Wetherspoon's Real Ale Festival begins. It lasts to mid-April.
I'll be here now and again,
Slainte
WG
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£1.29 a whip
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Teser Vouchers in cold storage till end of Festival
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Ales from all over the world
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Back of throat beginning to concertina like Caldwell & McManus eftir the same baw.....
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Craxahobeu :- With one exception I very rarely mention refs decisions, they even themselves out over the season don't you know :-)
I agree 100% with your last sentence except we apply it to different teams.
I'd love to see a good hard skillful game with us winning on Sat, I'll settle for just the last though.
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Obviously we are all in agreement re. the fact that refs have been particualrly bad for us this season compared to most other seasons were they are normally jsut bad for us. Is it possible that the refs have come to some sort of mutual agreement that there is only one way they could punish GS hard for GS getting off with so many suspensions this season. And that is to excessively punish his players on the field by way of bookings and letting opposing teams off with murder whilst being lenieant with Rankers at the same time. Kill 2 birds with one stone in a manner of speaking ie. get GS while helping the Rankers as usual.
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Ales from Japan (the Nakamakanaka)and Poland (the Arturian Legend) and Germany ( the Hinkel Drinkel.....hmm) and a Glaswegian-Irish stout ( the Aidan Porter) and an English peculiarity ( the Rusty Naylor), the rarely seen African number (Bobo Beer 100% Gravity) and a wee ginger beer fae Embra.......drawn from the cauld well...
I give you.......The Champions !!
TESER
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WinningGemmell :- Thanks for that post, it's what all posts should be, informative and precise and I'll now make a point of visiting either the Saltcoats or Kilmarnock branches a few times between now and the ned of the festival.
If you se me on Sat give me a wave, I'll be in the club deck wearing a blue top with a blue fleece and hopefully a big smile.
I'll keep my eyes open for you draped in Celtic paraphenelia, wearing a backpack for all the accoutrements you mentioned the other day, waving an inflatable E.C and hopefully looking miserable after the final whistle.
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Edward:
I think a lot of this years confidence has come from those three Old Firm victories. If Celtic had avoided defeat in even two of them, I think this season would have been a bit more nervy.
In a strange way, if Celtic win on Saturday, I think a lot of pressure is going to be put on Rangers, simply because of those recent successes.
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edward -
your Barry will be the ned of the festival, same as usual
Slainte
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Talking about 2003…
Would 3 Hun supporting Players have done this:
Dundee away – Celtic 1 up (Petrov was then clean thru and missed a sitter) Mark Burchill scores the equaliser in a 1-1 draw.
Hearts away – 1-1 with seconds remaining and Austin McCann scores the winner for Hearts (Screamer).
Dundee at home (6-2) seconds remaining and Barry Smith scores Dundee’s second.
If just one of the above had shown the same kind of dedication to their profession that Dunfermline did we would have won the league.
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Ale Ale the Celts drink Beer!
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rimtimtim, Doonans Camp, I was there March 1974 !!! Rained almost every day. Long walks in the countryside................Yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn ! Hated almost every minute of it apart from the ghost story telling in the dorms at night :o)
pablophanque
Ps, oh, and my first "real" girlfriend............."Young love, first love, we feel with................"
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Italiabhoy,
will reply to your rant after the game.
You apppear to think things have improved since your stated anomolies in previous years?
What do you base this on?
Certainly isn't statistics or anecdotal evidence.
Therefore it is somehow the fault of Celtic employees that we are in the doldrum you seem to think we are currently inhabiting.
But besides your bletherings.
I would like to ask a serious question of all contributers here.
Gordon Strachan Haters
By this I mean who would wish to see him gone by next season.
We hear a great deal on here about the long term future of our club,how healthy we are,in regards to future stability and so forth.
What I wish to ask,is the following.
Is there people who would rather see us lose on Saturday to promote their vision of the future?
I ask not to provoke a barney,believe it or not.
I am curious.
As despite my usual rantings,I feel that the question of the manager has as much to do with the long term stability of the club as any Armani suited rich guy who gets plaudits for only taking a small amount of wages "out of the club".
Do people who wish to see Gordon Strachan leave,see defeat on Saturday as a defeat for the present to give us a better future?
There are many sides to what is the best thing to do for our future(I was one of a few who advocated wholeheartedly for us to lose to Hearts a couple of years ago so Hearts would get the Champion's League spot),financial,football style,manager,players.
I am just curious to know if some would accept defeat on Saturday,to advance their vision of the future?
After all,the losing of the "odd league" is merely a sidepoint to the financial superiority of our club,whilst overwhelming our city rivals in those stakes!!!.
Perhaps some would see our financial wellbeing as being minus Gordon Strachan?
I am not looking for rants for or against our manager.
Just viewpoints that state,for the good of our club,long term(not snidy comments to the media,who we all supposedly hate),if Gordon Strachan is the man for the job,given the guidelines he has to work within to make the Armani suit look like some sort of latter day philanthropist who only gives us good news.
Spending less than you take in is easy over a four/five year period.
This is the mallaise which affects most large businesses,short term targets,whilst "one" is in charge.
Me,personally,I think that the manager is infinitely more important at implementing a long term strategy than any 3 or 4 year stint executive position.
I see a manager at the moment,who has the nonse to pick up one of the top fitness trainers in sports science.(which is treated extremely seriously,in both budgetary and beneficial terms by most big sporting organisations)
Probably the best nurturer of young talent we have seen in this country,John Park,to run his youth scouting academy.
Who is doing the thing long term for our club?
The guy who is putting the people and the programmes in place for these things?
Or the guy who is producing a bit of paper that says.
We have spent less than we have taken in,therefore we are successful.
We have a choice as to who we see as the most important people at our club.
And if they are performing at the tasks set.
Regardless if we see them as wee nyaffs or arrogant gits.
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wg
I asked Ferguson, McGregor, McCulloch and Dailly if they were into real ale.
Of course, they said as one, but we will be fit for Saturday.
They thought they were being asked if they had real ailments...
contrivedgags csc
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goodagfternoon Bhoys n ghirls...and Ed!
Good to see he is getting a lot of flack... wouldnt expect anything else on the run up to this one. Keep it up bhoys!
a quick mention to ALL the celtic bhoys that turned out with honour and pride to play in YET ANOTHER midweek game for the benifit of thier country despite the long and tiresome season.... (dig, dig!)
McManus, played very well, with one slip up (that he got away with)
Caldwell, played outstandin, with one challenge in perticular that was absolutely WORLD CLASS
Hartlewy and Brown, I though made an excelent pair in the middle, worked very well... ive not seen the likes of that pairing since....away at aberdeen in the league! My preferred choice in the middle for mordor
And a special mention to the big man. Lots of eyebrows were raised when he replaced Kuyt in the Dutch squad, but when you pop up with the winner the manager is proved 100% spot on. Well done big yin!
Hope all of them can take confidence from these matches into the biggot dome and samsh this title race to pieces!!
i have EVERY confidence!
HAIL HAIL!
BRING EM ALL ON!
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Nice one Pablo
Salubrious surroundings indeed!! It was more like a prison camp. It always rains in Aberfoyle!
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bloke109 -
they DO have real ailments but they're still fit to play football the rangers way ie anti(Christ)football
ThornIndustriesRFC, ML9
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From Jimbo The Timbo on Celticminded.com
Make your own mind up folks !?
"A friend of mine works for Celtic and just sent me this e-mail
Barry Robson, Are we paranoid?
Barry Robson was one of the "Old Firm 5" to pull out the Scotland squad this week. Robson was fit to play, was desperate to play and to add to his caps, he was told by the Scottish doctor (who was brought into the Scottish set-up by Walter Smith FROM Rangers ) that he was least likely to make an appearence for the national team so was to be deemed injured so the Rangers pull-outs wouldn't look so bad. He was sent home and phoned WGS to tell him.
Robson was disconsolate, Strachan was fuming but was only hinting at it in today's presser as he doesn't want to be seen as the paranoid source.
I'm not giving you a source on this but it is true, Robson and Strachan would love a journo to pick it up and run with it, doubt it eh?
Sad state of affairs.
He has never gave me duff info before so i've no reason to not believe this but can this be true?"
pablophanque
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Pablophanque
I was at Doonans at the same time.
Uncanny!
I remember the news of our great victory in the
Quarter final of the European Cup reaching us
The following morning as all radios had to be
Turned off before the match ended.
Didn’t mind the rain too much after that.
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Craxahobeu :- I agree with you on that one, if Celtic win I think it will be a huge blow to Rangers and they could well have a lot of trouble getting ready for the games at C.P with any confidence.
WinningGemmell :- As soon as I posted that and re-read it I was waiting on some sort of comment, but wouldn't he be more likely to be in a Lanarkshire Wotherspoons rather than an Ayrshire one.
Now if it were Mr Boyd that would be different, he would probably visit them all :-) (or at least the ones where young single females go and that also serve a good fry up)
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edward -
I've never seen Barry in The Teser, I think he prefers to cause trouble in ML3
Uly - inform the man......
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Kano - I for one believe that WGS has had to do the hard bit. Completely rebuild and re-structure a side almost from scratch, attain success at any cost, and try and play ebtertaining football.
This early restructuring was for longterm planning, "do it now on small wages, and get the benefits with cash in a few years".
As the holy goalie says, this is a VERY young and now very EXPERIENCED (at both international and european level) side. This team will grow and blossom into a terrific side. Add 2 or 3 REAL quality players and this team could REALLY go places.
WGS put all the elbow work in.
Let him reap the reward.
Cos if he is allowed to leave in the summer, there will be another period of upheaval, and the new man will have a new vision.
Square one.
OR (Worse)
They come in, recognise what a fantastic bunch of players we have here. And they finally click and become the team we know they can be, and not just youngsters with bags of potential any more.
The reason this is worse (for me) is that WGS will get none of the credit, and people will point to the fact the new manager was able to get the best out of them, and WGS couldnt. And therefore label him a dud and the new manager the second coming.
WGS is a tp man, and he has always had the long term plan.
eve if people dont like the team 1,2,3 bit.
the team WILL be stronger mentally, physiclly, and skillfully next year. And i believe they will hit top form the following season.
as i said.
LET HIM REAP THE BENIFITS!
wgsMUSTstayCSC
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One other thing.
would like to ask everyone who is their favourite footballer in the following three categories since 1980
Overall footballer.
Both feet,heading,tackling,positional sense,reading of the game and so forth.
Most important footballer.
To the club,it's success,and it's standing.
And who was the best captain in a team.
For instance
Lubo
Henrik
Willie Miller.
Ed,I already know your answer is
Laudrup
Sally
and Richard Gough or some other such legend.
But feel free to correct me.
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Pablophanque :- I don't believe a word of that for one reason, I think the Mr Strachan has far too mch integrity to allow it without shouting it from the rooftops. I don't know much about Mr Robson but I can't see a Celtic player going along with that to save face at Rangers.
If someone comes along with proof that it's otherwise than I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong can I ask your own views on it?
P.S now that you are middle class management I'm surprised you go onto other Celtic sites I thought this was meant to be the middle class clique site :-)
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Skippy ;- Someone posted the ages of the Celtic team the other day, you don't have a very young side.
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Kano
(in my life time)
1. Paul McStay
2. Lubo
3. Henrik (in my life time)
4. Team captain in a team...
ANY team - Cruyf
Our team - McNeil
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Pablophanque, i posted yesterday on that very subject. Unbelievable ! All very cosy me thinks.
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hoopeddreams, I was at St Mungoe's in Alloa at the time. Where were you (and rimtimtim) from ?
pablophanque
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sal @16.47.
I is an out and out lie.
No press conference was held today, at C.P.
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Kano,
Roy Keane.
This is what we miss. This is what we need. We need a midfield enforcer that pulls the strings and dictates our play for us. A Bobby Murdoch. I hate to say it but a Greame Souness type. Somebody that can break legs if he so wishes but would much rather get on with the game. Someone who protects midfield and defence can play a pass dictate the tempo of a game. Win a ball. Have a shot. Encourage the slackers and play without fear.
I think that ultimately thats what Scott Brown will develop into but he has a long way to go
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Ed - Compared to who?
when we have old v young bounce games, and split the squad evenly.....and 25 and 26 yearolds are in the old team it says a lot.
Naka is the oldest regular in our side consistently through the season... and he has just turned 29.
Most of our team are under 25.
I believe thet players peak from 28-31. Best years are ahead for 80% of our team
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Pablo @16:33
what a load of bull
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Sorry skippy.....
meant to say in Scotland.
As far as the long term thing is concerned,if we have a manager who is doing this,then it is someone we need to keep.
If that is what we believe is happening
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Pablophanque
Bad news- so was I!!
Don't know about rimtimtim- where's he from?
Over to you, rim (If I can be so familiar).
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pablo-
Was about to post but Ed beat me to it in relation to the Robson story. If anything, it sounds like a plant from a Hun to fool gullible Celtc fans into repeating it and thus undermine the genuine bias that is shown against our team. Expect to hear it repeated on one of the phone in shows while they refuse to deal with any serious questions about the shocking displays by the MIB this year.
rd
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Stuart Dougal - the complete dossier:
1. I nearly bought a house in the estate where he lives.
2. His kids apparently go to the primary school I went to.
3. I saw him coming out a chippy once.
4. Er, that's it.
Howevah! On this he says
"Your best memory in football? I hope it has still to come! So far though, it has to be the Scottish Cup Final 2005. The build up, the day of the match and the celebration afterwards with some colleagues and their wives helped make it a fantastic memory"
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Ted, me, middle_class ???!!! Management ????!!!! Yer havin a laff :o)))
I don't believe a word of it personally, but stranger things have happened ??
Imagine if the head of the SFA deliberately stalled the registration of a Celtic player to help your lot...............?
Naw, that couldn't possibly happen !!!???
pablophanque
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Kano
Not necessarily all my favourites but I would have to say
Best captain Roy Aitken,
Most influential player Ally McCoist,
Best player Henke,
Most talented Paul McStay
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...........and the follow-up from CM...........
Looks very much to me that Jimbos source is correct.
"You just put up with it," said Strachan. "When you've got a lot of players on international duty, you have to deal with it."
McManus and Hartley both played the full 90 minutes and Strachan refused to comment on whether he would have preferred a less taxing night for his players.
But he added: "It's not my right to tell a Scotland manager what he does with the players.
"I'm just quite happy that four of our players picked up more caps because it's nice to have loads of caps. I'm just disappointed that Barry couldn't get a cap.
"There is no problem with the fitness of my players, no problem whatsoever.
"You would need to ask Rangers about their players."
pablophanque
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Ritchie,
Good show!
Liars are no good to either side.
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Aw Naw...
Apart from "Roy Keane" you have just described what many would feel was,the one and only,
Neil Lennon
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Edward
Thanks for your reply. Sometimes its difficult to find an explanation for these things but until refs show consistency in their decision making there will always be some who will find plenty of fuel for paranoia. As I've said I was not previously of that school but this season has given me a pause for a re-think. Will I be less or more inclined after Saturday I wonder. Mr Dougal's previous in recent meetings has me a little worried I have to admit.
Did you by any chance see Man Utd v Liverpool? Mr Bennett's performance there gives me further pause for thought as I felt the yellow for Torres ridiculous and the red for Mascherano utterly unbelievable. My first sight of that incident was with the sound down and no distraction and it was easy to see that he said "What's happening? and Why?" several times. Reckon Neil Lennon would have been suspended sine die with a ref like that. Sorry forgot he almost was! Help my memo
