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First, just like Celtic in May 2008.
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hail hail
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sftb
You should get out more:o)
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The game will not be played at Fir Park.
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Paul67
has an Administrator done you wrong in the recent past?
Someone should write a Country Song about that.
You were supposed to act in my interest but you were only acting the goat.
I was a preferred creditor but you preferred someone else.
I offered you mu home venue but you liked playing away.
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Wonky blog.
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anyone any idea of how and when the remaining fixtures will be played
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...streetwalkers....
Quality!
Situation:
Farcical.
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SFTB :-)
It wasn’t recent, but my heart takes a while to forgive.
Deadly serious about my experiences of them. There is an assumption that ordinary creditors will get nothing, that the government doesn’t matter, and there is a focus on getting enough cash to cover their fees.
In my experience, administrators singularly fail to recover any money for ordinary creditors and get aggressive and abusive if a creditor suggests asks them to justify their actions.
They are a profession who fail more often to fulfil their objective than any other.
PJBhoy; polite version used.
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I posted a link on the previous thread of the Boyle interview on radio Scotland.
The upshot is that BOTH Motherwell and Gretna will be unable to use Fir Park for at least a month.
Boyle Interview
It is in our best interests to have Gretna play their home game against us at Celtic Park.
That way we have the gate receipts in our custody until the game is played and Celtic fans are guaranteed a game for their ticket payment.
Time for a more professional team to take charge at the SPL.
oh and in case we forget
Smack Duffield as well.
'GG
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Sounds cruel but they should stop this charade now and wind up Gretna, by keeping the life support machine plugged in they are just delaying the envitable. Gretna is not an investment bank that is in line to receive $200 Billion handout (that kind of welfare safety net is for only the mega rich).
Gretna is not going to survive after this season, pull the plug.
Euthanasia CSC
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I cannot see rankers fans being happy about us playing Gretna at CP. They'd probably force the game to Hampden to get the crowd size advantage without the home venue advantage.
Any views, EU or govan rear?
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Can these guys make a difference ?
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The administrator's responsibilities are clear, love the line about streetwalkers. Paul.
But what is the SPL's responsibility in all of this? Surely to remain a member of the league Gretna has to be able to demonstrate that it can fulfill its remaining fixtures? If not, then stop throwing good money after bad.
It's ok to say we get an extra home game but we still need to pay for tickets as fans, and they might still go bust and have the game rendered null and void at a later date. Apart from any bookings or injuries picked up of course.
And would a rearranged fixture at Celtic Park count as a home game for us? If Gretna do survive to the split at least, then that is a question that could have a real bearing on the title.
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Paul
You seem to have suffered at the tender mercies of administrators.
So I have a couple of questions. They may be more in the domain of the accountants though.
Should Gretna be unable to fulfill their game against us, are Celtic not legally obliged to hand the administrator any money collected for match tickets?
Has there been any action from Rowan Alexander to recover the 800k owed him?
Had I been owed that kind of cash, I would have moved before now to wind them up.
As regards players. It's unlikely from the sound of things that any deductions made for tax or insurance has actually been paid.
So are the players still liable for the payments?
'GG curious.
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That's life, that's what all the people say.
You're riding high in April,
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune,
When I'm back on top, back on top in June.
I said that's life, and as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks,
Stompin' on a dream
But I don't let it, let it get me down,
'Cause this fine ol' world it keeps spinning around
I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate,
A poet, a pawn and a king.
I've been up and down and over and out
And I know one thing:
Each time I find myself, flat on my face,
I pick myself up and get back in the race.
That's life
I tell ya, I can't deny it,
I thought of quitting baby,
But my heart just ain't gonna buy it.
And if I didn't think it was worth one single try,
I'd jump right on a big bird and then I'd fly
I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate,
A poet, a pawn and a king.
I've been up and down and over and out
And I know one thing:
Each time I find myself laying flat on my face,
I just pick myself up and get back in the race
That's life
That's life and I can't deny it
Many times I thought of cutting out
But my heart won't buy it
But if there's nothing shakin' come this here july
I'm gonna roll myself up in a big ball and die
My, My
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Yes but only if these guys care as much as we do! Do they?
Frank
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Arsenal struggling to break down the famed Wattienaccio as demonstrated by Boro.
1-0 down in the 78th minute.
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SFTB, Rangers fans do not have a say in this one; this morning the administrator had two choices, Fir Park or CP.
Gordon J, a ‘home’ fixture at CP would almost certainly provide them with enough cash to get to the end of the season.
‘GG, no, Gretna would only be entitled to cash for tickets for the Celtic game if the fixture was fulfilled. Celtic would be within their right to refuse to pay for a game that did not happen.
Celtic fans who purchased tickets would be creditors and the administrator (then liquidator) would be pleased to see Celtic refund any creditors.
The players are still due wages, I believe.
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Goal for the gooners. dreadful defending from a corner.
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Mido sent off for dangerous play in the 87th minute.
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Wonder if Arsenal cyberspace contributors will slaughter their players after dropping points to lowly Boro tonight?
Naw, mibbe not.
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Arsenal drop another 2 points.
The final minutes were reminiscent of a few games witnessed or suffered by all of us recently.
'GG
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Sounds an horrendous mess, even worse than I thought. I was of the opinion that we should let Gretna go to the wall as it was to our advantage. I feel now it would be to the advantage of Gretna that they be put out of their misery as soon as possible. Their debts are not managable and will only deepen over the remainder of the season. The SPL should force the administrator to foreclose NOW, by refusing to give them any funding, which might well disappear down some black hole. Any monies that come their way is not going to seen by their supporters or the players. It is already spoken for by the likes of the Inland Revenue, as Paul says.
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According to the BBC report on today's game the Gretna players were playing without insurance. Is this allowed? Doesn't the club have a duty of care to its employees - or does the fact that they are effectively volunteering to play after their contracts have been broken make it their own liability?
It would be awful if any player picked up a serious injury in this situation.
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Too bad the game was off, I hurried home to sit before the computer and ….aw naw. Must be bad when you have actually paid in advance to get to the game. Time and money down the drain.
Gretna can count themselves lucky that they may play at CP. Not to do so would be simply bizarre.
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GordonJ
Yes, and that is apparently the reason some senior players such as Chris Innes have refused to play.
I think Narrowboat is dead right and euthanasia is the most sensible option. The week-to-week, hand-to-mouth existence is not sustainable for a professional football club. The football agent who is trying to put together a consortium, plus Roddy Collins, who is apparently heading an Irish consortium to purchase, want their heads examined. Kojo may tell us it ould be a good time to buy, but surely it doesn't apply to Gretna.
Bloke109, who the other day, purchased a ticket for the Gretna game.
Martin Bain took time off the sunbed to say, on the BBC site:
"I've heard suggestions of the Motherwell home fixtures against the Old Firm being played at Ibrox and Celtic Park but that is something we would resist.
"I don't think it is right to take advantage of the disadvantaged."
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paul 67....
does he even have 2 choices....if you were the Chief exec of motherwell would you be prepared to let grtena play on your pitch, given that motherwell are likely to be a creditor...i would be amazed if gretna have paid motherwell full rent for the use of the ground so far ......
anyone else will want paid in advance or a guarantee from the administrator that he will pay them in full, which would rank them ahead of the revenue....which is not possible.....this game has to go on at parkhead, which is unfair in a sporting context....the spl have reaped what they have sown.....the sfa show all the signs of making the same mistake if either celtic or rangers don't make it to the scottish cup final...we face the farce of scotland being potentially represented by QOS in Europe
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Will the Arsenal Quick News site be going into overdrive to have Wenger sack. When was the last time Arsenal won a Trophy? And when Wenger did win the league he was lucky because it was because he was up against the weakest Manure team in a generation. Wenger buys have been terrible, what have they won, and if any of his buys turned out good is because he got lucky.
Sack the Arsenal board
Sack Wenger
Sack Gallus
Sack Fabregas
They don't even have a Laptop Loyal, Masonic Referees and Duffield to contend with, they must be really bad. I blame French Schools for poor Arsenal results.
Sack Nick Hornby
Sack Alan Davis
Tonguefirmlyincheek CSC
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Paul,
...are you insulting streetwalkers, administrators...or both? ;-)
...administrators securing their fees in advance kind of makes sense ...given the circumstances... otherwise...why take on the job?
Chris
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From day one ,i have doubted Mr Wenger.
It has always been my belief that when he got rid of Bruce Riochs's team ,that we would be left with a much poorer side.
I have tried to balance my negative thoughts against the fact that even if George Graham had still been in charge ,he would also have had to reduce the wage bill.
The thing is ,given the exact same budgets ,i think that George Graham would put together a better side than Mr Wenger.
Mr Wenger has built a side with very little physical presence.We are vulnerable at set pieces and pose little threat when we have them.
Hleb apart, we pose very little threat from pacey players.
Standards are all about perspective.
My perspective is that compared to most of the good sides, that i have seen in the last 35 years.
Our skillfull players lack physical presence and heart e.g. Clichy.
Our hardworking players lack technique e.g.Fabregas.
Our Central defenders lack aerial dominace e.g. Senderos against Miller last week.
Our fullback's strengths lye in attack and not defence.e.g Flamini, and Eboue.
Our hardworking fowards lack composure.eg. Adebayor.( who has been a very good signing despite his failings)
Our composed players lack endeavour.e.g Aliadierre( i know he has now gone)and i fear the same with Rosicky.
I could go on forever,but we are about to lose the league to a side ,that has a much better physical presence.
They have a better structure to them.They have a team that will beat us ,more than we beat them,in a dogfight.
We have had a similar budget to them .Sir Alex has built a better TEAM,on similar money.
Mr Wenger has had a lot of rope ,he is hanging himself with it.
This is the first year that he has had to compete with a serious consistent opponent, and he is failing.
United will win the league ,despite having much more fixtures to contend with.
In my book they are strong favourites to do a .Infact my best hope is that DC can cause an upset on Saturday.
This is possible because they have a manager who know's the physical importance of building a team and being able to nullify and create a goal threat from set pieces.
Davie Moyes is the same.
I am sorry but until Mr Wenger realises this, we will play second fiddle to sides built by Sir Alex
You have to win your individual battles all over the park.I am afraid we do not have enough players capable of doing this.
The recruitment of the players lyes at Mr Wengers door.
If United win on Sunday they will do the double.
This is not what i would call a GOD.
There are many who have slaughtered me.There will be much more after this rant.
There will be those who say that, even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
Whilst many have had there heads in the sand,and have been blinded by success during a period of almost no competition .I have never been fooled.
The time is coming where all my fears will come home to roost.
I could not be more gutted.
What is coming was all so avoidable.
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Paul - an engineering company I helped to start up was eventually put into administration after myself and some of the other guys left.
The administrator charged a whopping £200 per hour and eventually racked up a £75K bill. How any bean counter can justify that is totally beyond me. Money-grabbing scum!
You have to laugh at Bain's brass neck. They take advantage of the disadvantaged by bringing out three strips every season!
TTTTwhodisnaelikeaccountants
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NBT
I started off my 19.15 post using Arsenal Quick News then had second thoughts.
But you could see where I was coming from.
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Celtic will win the double AND Gordon will leave in the summer.
Mark McGhee will be approached to take over (in fact already has been)but Jose Mourinho will arrive on his white charger at the last minute.
Some all or none of the above is true.
If we had played and won the New Years game, we would be 3 points behind with two games still to play against them!
Realism does not mean defeatist!
Where does this subservient negativity arise from?
Get in their faces!!
Pub time, and a night of songs of celebration of Irish/Scottish cultural empathy.
Hail hail
Estadio
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Estadio-
Why the optimism ?
notamemberofthedoomsdayCSC.
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Rangers chief executive Martin Bain said the "sensible solution" was to play Motherwell and Gretna's games at Hampden.
"I've heard suggestions of the Motherwell home fixtures against the Old Firm being played at Ibrox and Celtic Park but that is something we would resist.
"I don't think it is right to take advantage of the disadvantaged."
How Bain's twisted logic can turn a quarter of a million pound hand or leg up for Gretna into Celtic exploitation is confounding.
He is definitely the east end of a westbound donkey.
'GG
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'gg-
"I don't think it is right to take advantage of the disadvantaged."
Translated from Bainspeak means
" Don't kick a man when he's down"
Since when did Rangers stop doing that?
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GG,
"definitely the east end of a westbound donkey"
Brilliant.
Lubo :->
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Han
As the old saying goes, there is no 'tim' in pessimism!
Hail hail
Estadio
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Paul
You will have heard of the cosmetics company who hired 3 administrators for an experiment. When asked why they weren't using rats as usual the questioner was advised that there were some things that even a rat wouldn't do.
Your language was far too polite imo.
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Paul
I was in Glasgow City Centre at 02.30 today and must confess I was well impressed with the quality of streetwalkers on show:o)
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Eldiegobhoy
Brilliant Blog name 'Tiny Gooner' took me awhile till it click in.
TTTT
15/03/08 01:25
Yoker infested with Huns?
I have you know that I was brought up in Yoker across from a Convent. Mother Superior and all her Nunnettes were always in our house. To this day I flinch when I see I see an episode of 'Pingu'. They still hang around Yoker continuing doing their good work at St Margret's Hospice.
But I will forgive you for that slight against Yoker as you are from Scotstoun and my Granny was from there.
The Sisters of Charity CSC
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Subterranean, neither, well, maybe administrators.
TTTT, £75k, I bet not a penny went to the ordinary creditors. Liquidation services is a scam. Pity help the creditors, because the liquidator won’t.
Tiny Gooner, stop living in the past; George Graham is doing commercial work at White Hart Lane now, accept it and move on.
Derbyshirebhoy, I toned the language down.
EDB, did they have clip boards and a HNC in Accounts?
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NBT
The more we have been successful in the last 10 or so years has only made sections of our support become increasingly intolerant of years when success has gone elsewhere.
I wish for a fair share of success for the club and probably a bit more. I don't demand or expect success every year for the rest of my life. But yes we must continue to strive for it.
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Bloke 109,
When I read your Martin Bain quote, I initially thought you had made it up for a laugh!
The SPL has created this mess and now is struggling to find a way out. They cannot punish Motherwell given they agreed that Gretna could groundshare. What a farce thiss eason is becoming.
I presure that the league needs to agree any change of venue proposed for a league match?
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Administrators, Receivers,
Sequestrators, Lawyers in Bankruptcy,
Give them whatever title you wish, they all mean the same,
CHEATS, ROBBERS, REFEREES,
I HATE THEM ALL, INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY.
STAND UP FOR THE WEE MAN EVERY TIME.
Martin.
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Paul
They had very short skirts and high heels.
I'll say no more.
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As an afterthought,
If Gretna require a few towels to throw in, then perhaps Kojo, Tinytim and Sean South could lend them some.
They certainly could not sell them some, they are skint.
STAND UP FOR THE POOR WEE MAN.
Martin.
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I said in jest the other day that this season's SPL should be abandoned and the final positions from last season should be adopted for European purposes.
The joke is wearing a bit thin now and there is a case developing to declare the 2007-8 fiasco null and void.
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Martin42
Had you intended going to today's game?
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E D B,
Does "M" know about your eyeing up and fixation with Glasgow's streetwalkers?
Steady there bhoy!!!
STAND UP FOR THE DESPERATE AND POOR WEE MAN.
Martin
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E D B,
No I was not going to the game.
I was sorry it was postponed, it meant that I had just lost two hours with Ryan and Callum climbing all over me, and generally making me smile, making me happy and making me so so proud.
As it was I used the time to go shopping with my "M", we ended up buying a new car.
Would have been cheaper off watching the game.
STAND UP FOR WONDERFUL GRANDCHILDREN.
Martin.
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A wee song about the solution to Gretna's fight with their administrators.
song for gretna
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Martin
You have mail.
007csc
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It is lashing down here, can one of the quitters throw me a towel.
EDB
Was that the Administrators and Receivers that were wearing short skirts and high heels, then maybe it is not that bad for the little people after all as they have something to look up for.
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My, oh my. This whole farce is taking place within the context of of the country's top league, which supposedly represents our national sport.
Is it any wonder we cannot attract decent talent to Celtic Park?
Those in charge of the game, both at admiistative and club level are simply not fit for purpose.
Ironically, someone earlier today was lambasting Kojo for his views on market forces and what is going on in the banking sector.
Look in front of your eyes fholks -market forces are wiping out Scottish football because it it run by a bunch of charlitains.
That Scottish football finds itself in such a position comes as no surprise to me. What had me choking on my vino was Paul's assertion that Rowan Alexander is owed £800k.
Please tell me this is money owing to him over some protracted time period and not accrued wages for this season alone.
To think our friends in the media tell us there's no money in Scottish football.
Aye, that'll be after they've all taken their cut.
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NBT
I'm laughing just now but it is a family site so I know nothing!!!
What was that guys name? Corporal Schmidt?
It's unusually dry in G83.
Well it is outside but not inside.
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E D B,
Mail back to you,
Martin.
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Isn't it interesting that they both ply their trade in the same place in the city ?
If you look in the Back left you can just spot EDB as a young man searching for his his first piece of 'business' as a young man in this famous
Glasgow Square
to administer something or other.
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EDB
You've renamed him and demoted him.
Feldwebel (Sergeant) Schultz was Colonel Klink's scapegoat in looking after Hogan's Heroes.
He was famed for his prescient catchphrase "I see nothing, nothing. I see the Rangers will win nothing"
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GM
I did not intend to 'lambast' Kojo....
Just juxtapose his faith in chaos and his loss of faith in reason...
But you are right there are remarkable consistencies when you place those two worlds side by side....
Anyway I hoped the Bhoys would be top of the League tonight..Alas not. Still I am off to enjoy this.
Anyone here for the parade I will be in PJ Clarkes 55th St (an auld haunt of Old Blue Eyes) Monday...
Its quite a place...
KTF
I agree with whoever posted earlier...GS will enjoy this fight more than previous ones...
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Whitedoghunch-
Shurely you're not suggesting that El Diego Bhoy had business interests in the Square of Blytheswood ?
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Paul67,
If it is CP then i would say we should beat thm. I would love it that people who just bought tickets for the original venue just go along. I hope other Celtic fans decide not to go as a matter of protest. Why yshould we have to give financial help to other clubs.
I want to see Gretna fold. Should never have been allowed in the SPL in the first place. It has been a farce. No stadium, no support. Complete and utter folley.
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NBT - I live in Scotstoun, but I'm from Greenock originally. I stand corrected on Yoker, my observations were based on several bitter Huns I've met from the area.
Hmmmm, the thought of EDB trawling the mean streets of Glasgow in the wee small hours....clearly trying to guide some poor wee souls to the path of salvation.
God bless you!
TTTT
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One for the auldest hauns on the blog-
Celtic footage 1950s to 1977
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sftb
"I see nothing, nothing. I see the Rangers will win nothing" Was this utter by a Hun from Hogan Heroes. They must have Towel Throwers too in Stalag 13
To help the teenagers Hogan Heroes
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Sir Harrison Ford.
I last saw you about 18 months ago in the lovely Hoffmans of Barcelona.
You'll remember me as the caring soul who yelped 'let the wookie win' as we stumbled on to the Argentines.
EDB to his credit has much business in that area.
He very quietly runs a soup kitchen for the less fortunate.(trade slang)
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wdh
You've blown my cover.
It had to happen some day.
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I think that Rowan Alexander's £800,000 is a "claim" and not a confirmed liability. The Inland Revenue are no longer preferred creditors but how on earth were Gretna allowed to run up such a debt. As a one man business with two employees it would take me 30 years to run up such a debt. I think I will give it a try!
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Paul67
I am not sure on this but I thought the Government changed the rules on liquidation and the Inland Revenue (or HMRC as they now are) no longer hold preferred creditor status.
Preferential status was transferred to employees.
If so, then for Rowan Alexander the prospect of liquidation for Gretna might actually get him his money unless the liquidators could show good cause for disputing his claim or the fact that he is not currently an active employee might hamper that claim.
I am with you and your Dad on this, the whole administration/liquidation process is one licence to print money for those registered as insolvency practicioners.
Anyway the whole sorry mess again proves how much of a farce the SPL is. Just as well no-one in Europe takes any notice.
Only 12 clubs in the league and we make this utter botch of it.
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Fatherand Bhoy-
Gretna would have been ok to take their debt to
£20,000,000 if it wasn't for the sub-prime mortgage crisis in the American mid-west.
whatdoyoumeanyouhavetopayitbackGSC.
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AC Meelan playing Roma in the Stadio Olimpico, were cruising at 1-0 till the 80th minute.
However, they were mugged when Roma scored twice in three minutes to win 2-1.
Pirlo just hit a free kick over the bar after 5 minutes of the 4 added minutes and the game ends in what looked like an unlikely victory for Roma.
'GG
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Han Solo
Fascinating clips in that wee video.
I wonder who the wee man tap dancing in the tram lines was?
Aiden McGeady's real da?
Or was it Kojo's first start in showbiz? I'm sure I saw a towel come flying in at the end of the dance.
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hans solo
great footage.
Those were the days when men wore ties to matches, the Mason in the Black wore a Blazer to ref the game and wee bhoys munched macaroon bars. I can almost smell the urine and the stewed onions as I type.
I prefer the mystic clouds of nostalgia to the real thing.
Robert Wyatt CSC
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Very atmospheric Hans (Knees and boomps a daisy?)
Time to go out and celebrate my heritage.
I leave you with
Hail Glorious St Patrick
'GG
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Great Minds Think Alike...
Narrowbhoat...19:47...Good...
TinyGooner...18:56...Gooder...
I set the alarm to get up to watch the mighty Gooners...
Reason 1...I have a little interest in the Gooners winning the Champions League...
Reason 2...I have a large interest in Adebuyour finishing top Goalscorer in the EPL...
My point...I have no interest in watching any other team apart from Celtic i have always been like that it's as if i don't like football...
However... If i put a couple of bucks on correct score,HT/FT,first goalscorer ect...I will watch a game with a great interest no matter who is playing CL,EPL,Blue square ect...
This season my Main interests have been Adebuyour Top Scorer,West brom Championship,Getafe UEFA Cup,Arsenal CL,Spain EURO 2008, I won't list the others in the Wastepaper basket...
Back to my point is i gives me a great interest in their games, results, form, injuries, ect...
Watching the Arsenal game this morning i was thinking everything that Narrowbhoat,TinyGooner were saying Sack Wenger, He's sh@t, why didn't he play him, Get him aff, ect...ect...And with,for me abit of venom, A think i even boooed big ADE...At one point and he's ma Main Man...@ big odd's...
Back to my point after the game i was thinking that i was starting to turn into one of they MINSHAFTER THINGS the Bhoys on CQN talk about, Angry,Bitter,Depressed,Negative...Mineshafter was a new word to me around Dec 07... around the time we lost to the Mighty ICT...but i sure know WHAT It means now...
I can/have Never been Negative, or any of these things with Celtic and recently like 'last night' I have been wondering WHY And basically i think it's because i LOVE Celtic...
Maybe LOVE IS BLIND but i've been dowm the SHAFTS and it's not nice...
But i won't give the towel dis guarders a hard time cause like a said Maybe their just havin a bad week...
o1bhoy
NBT...TG...Quality...
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EDB, 20:30, ah, administrators then.
Shamrock, fortunately, it has been a couple of years since I have had to deal with said practitioners, so the privileges of the IR may well have been curtailed since, thanks.
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NBT
Lots of similarities between Arsene Venger and Gordon strachan. Arsene has won the EPL, reached the CL Final and can spot fantastic talent in the transfer market....errr naw there isnae!
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Help,can anyone tell me how to lift a post from a previous thread,and repost it here?
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I am Sporting Lissabon Suporter:
In the UEFA 1/4 final, Sporting, as you all know, will play against rangers. We hope that all of you put on your Celtic or Sporting jersey (i know that some of you have one), go to rangers stadium and support Sporting.
Go Celtic! Vai Sporting!
Leave this message to your friends.
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I am Sporting Lissabon Suporter:
In the UEFA 1/4 final, Sporting, as you all know, will play against rangers. We hope that all of you put on your Celtic or Sporting jersey (i know that some of you have one), go to rangers stadium and support Sporting.
Go Celtic! Vai Sporting!
Leave this message to your friends.
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Paul I think employees were always looked after as creditors before the revenue under some goverment scheme where they got redundency.
This for/unfortunately does not cover directors.
What the percentage of the amount covered I dinnae ken.
Was once questioned without realising by two 'undercover' inspectors in a pub who found my lack of willingness to tell them my business suspect. Only when the male went to the toilet did the girl let me know what the did- she was a little typsy.
At the time I was working most days free for a few charities helping them build their business
If only Bill was alive he could maybe do a turn on certain financial sectors
some swearing
MARKETING
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johnnyquest
Highlight the post by clicking and dragging all of it. Press Ctrl and C at the same time, Open comment form. Click on it and press trl and V at the same time.
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That should be Ctrl and V
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Verde CDV, best wishes in the Uefa Cup, I hope you win the final this time.
Whitedog, unless they have changed the rules since last I heard, I believe the Revenue pay employees redundancy if the company fails.
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Saturday's World football round-up:
It's a good job China's shooting was on target in the last minute to earn them a thai with Thailand.
Never mind "taxi for (Bayern Munich's) Franck Ribery",
