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surprised there was only 2 mins of injury time as I'm sure Celtic would have went straight up the field again and scored the winner, had we even had an extra 30 seconds of play.
Lazurus like recovery eh Paul. Take it you were listening to the gospel yesterday then :-)
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Lazarus and St Patrick in the one article. This site is getting too religious for me!
atheistcfc
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This site needs more Lazarus and more Patrick and less serpents.
PatLallyCSC
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Paul67, anyone,
can anybody confirm if Celtic are still paying half of Thomas Gravesons wages ?
Walter Smith was reacting to Mixu´s call yesterday for consistency. Walter was protecting the SFA´s right not to book Rangers players. As injuries and suspensions are playing a factor
Rangers have had 3 bookings this calendar year in the SPL. That´s one a month.
Two straight reds in the SC. Both reds being instant dismissals where the referee cannot hide. No bookings
Eight bookings in the SC
everypicturetellsthesameoldstoryCSC
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I wonder if their will be calls for a 15 match touchline ban for Walter for pushing the 4th official, as their was for Neil Lennon to be banned for 15 games when he pushed the Ref.
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Amazing (not) the press reaction to Sir Walter who has no surname, after he totally lost the plot yesterday. It has been turned round to him reacting to the Hibs bench for trying to get players sent off, when Novo was red carded IMMEDIATELY by the ref, without any added pressure from Hibs bench. And as Sir Walt said it was merited, what was his point? Lets be totally honest, this is not paranoia, had wee Gordon done the same the press would be pushing for the death penalty to be re-instated, for one day only, but they would probably want Aiden hanged as well, for treason. I hate the press in this country, they stink of double standards and bias. Lets see if the SFA or whoever deals with it will set the punishment to fit the crime. Mind you, with his previous record and what he did for Scotland etc, he may get a knighthood. Oh I forgot, he already has one. Where`s Jonnyquest?
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AweNAw, I can confirm that Everton are paying Thomas Gravesen’s wages in total.
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Thanks Paul67
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SFA web site confirms our replay against Aberdeen as Tuesday 18 March.
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Gordon_J
Relax, there were also references to Rangers, Walter Smith and Jimmy Calderwood, an unholy trinity if ever there was one.
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At every level of football a studs up tackle is a no-no. At every level in football a two footed, studs up tackle is known as one thing… not a ball winning tackle… not at all, it is known as a LEG BREAKING tackle.
Novo did not go to ground and slide in two footed… studs up; rather, he lunged in two footed… studs up. A tackle with intent. I would have thought the physics of the tackle are that all the opposing forces that are equitable will be released through the first stud that makes contact. (Maybe Michael Collins could expand on that)
Had that been Neill Lennon who committed such an ‘innocuous challenge’, the righteous brotherhood of white gowned, topped with pointed white caps, with their flaming crosses and noose aye ready, would already have gathered in a malevolent pre-lynching frenzy.
Post an obligatory El Dorado/Buckfast cheese and wine ‘time out’ of course.
Don’t swallow the spin, Mixu Paatelainen, has got nothing to answer to, nor apologise for; it was not he who invaded the others technical area with the pointed finger and the snarling, mouth spraying invectives.
Yet some people would have you believe, by innuendo and omission, that, that is what actually happened.
How do you defend the indefensible… easy really… just get a few Scottish, Red Top integrityless slags to take up your case; throw in a couple of gripes from disillusioned Celtic supporters… just to give the defence a substantial toxic and obnoxious spice, throw a couple of curved balls and nobody remembers what you were on about in the first place.
Aw Naw: I don't know but I'd be suprised if it were so.
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Its amazing the press reaction
as a few bhoys have said, they have focused on the hibs bench as if
"they made him do it"
laughable
i heard on the radio after the game, all they were talking about was how good smith was and he had never done that before
GIRUY Walter
10 match ban csc
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Is it just me or is Walter feeling the pressure?
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The Evening Times are reporting that Smith will get a 2 match ban and this will take in the Celtic match.
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Did not see the game yesterday, but looking forward to watching the replay at Parkhead.
Paul, or anyone is it still looking like the first game of the old rivals three will take place at Ipox on the 29th?
Any chance of Walter Smitty watching the game from the stands?
BF
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Is Walter (just Walter now) starting to feel the pressure do you think?
Did anyone else hear Phil gordon on beeb radio scotland - reporting on the incident with mixu (lets just call him mixu) saying and i quote "..before Walter returned to his dignified self". As we all know; for scottish press read - rangers loyal.
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So whats the chances of smith being punished accumulativly for all his offences during his strop, assault on a match official, leaving his technical area, entering his opponents technical area and behaving in an unsportsmanlike manee.
HA who am I kidding, but if these were(should be) the charges put to him, howmany week ban would be incurred??
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Dignity: Walter Smith v Mixu Paatelainen
Watch it Again
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A couple of points on the Watty debate.
Firstly, did anyone hear Crai Patterson on Radio Scotland yesterday DEFEND Watty saying something like it was all harmless, no intent was meant blah blah blah? Now, we can all remember when Gordon Strachan went off on one and every columnist in the land was condemning our manager. Different standards, me thinks
Secondly, does anyone actually believe that Watty will serve any ban this season? Didnt think so
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Off topic somewhat....but has anyone noticed that the Queens' corgi dogs have stopped soiling the Royal couch since the Queen Mother died?
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Oh!! and just a wee aside befor I hit the sack... If you were the sponsors of such behaviour... would you really want your name associated with the like?
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Paul,
Celtic's performance restages football as a revengers tragedy. As a metatheory it contaminates the trope of history, providing us with new protagonists to (re)enact unresolved scenes.
Walter remains the blot on our collective consciousness. Fate has provided us with the opportunity to deal with this demon.
This is a time to invoke heroes; this is a time for Cúchulainn's (even if he was Setanta)
This is a time to pull together; this is a time to confront our antithesis.
But before we launch into the shadows comrade, remember...
At the end of the storm
Is a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of the lark
Therags...
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SMC follows SMB but SMC is not as uncouth as SMB.
The QM was okay. Now the corgi's... if you're going to have a dog why not get one with legs?
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We've trumped them depriving us of home fixtures. Contrive A Replay.
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Many happy returns, Christopher Roy Sutton, 35 today. We certainly need his' putting Rang##s in their place' attitude this season.
Also sharing Chris' birthday are Barcelona striker Samuel E'too, Wonderbra supertotty Eva Herzigova, and world's most wanted man Osama Bin Laden.
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Celtic v Aberdeen replay confirmed for Tuesday 18th March.
Can anyone confirm if this is free on a season ticket, or will i need to shell out another £20?
Cheers
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Still makes me laugh daily
Walters anger management tutor
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Stoir Mha Chroi
Uncouth?
You've been dying to use that term on CQN since inception and now ye've done it.
All ye need is wan wae pedantic.
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TLW- I checked earlier- the game against the Albinos of Stirling was on the Seaso.
Given the choice between giving his birthday bumps to OSL or CRS, which one do you think Smeato would go for?
Me too
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TheLeftWinger 13.25
I think we had our 'free' game on the season books. (last round I think)
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I think we may be getting the wrong end of the stick here.
In keeping with 135 years of unsullied Dignity Walter was remonstating with Mr Paatelainen for objecting to the refs decision to red card Novo for the savage assault on his studs by the Hibs player.
As Walter graciously said after the game it was a natural mistake for the ref to make given the latin and papist ring to Mr Novo`s moniker.
Walter Smitty csc
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me too St Gris, it is absolutely superb!!
have you watched the part 2 yet??
very funny also
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Draw for FACup semis-
Barnsley v Cardiff
West Brom v Portsmouth.
Got to be a Barnsley v West Brom final. Carlisle legend Simon Davey v Hoopslegend Mogga. The Barnsley centre forward looked like Cuban boxing legend Teofilo Stevenson.
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DRGREEN 1301
If the Phil gordon to whom you refer is the Scottish football correspondent of the london Times and if HE is the same Phil Gordon I think he is then unless hes changed his view on life and Scottish football in the 25 years or so since i last spoke to him ( i would regard him as an acquaintance / friend of a friend) , which I would think is possible but unlikely , I can assure you he does not fall into the "Rangers Loyal" brigade.
His articles are generally far more balanced than anything you would expect from anyone in that category
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On the subject of the price of the Dons replay, yes we did get the Stirling game as our "free game " but the SSM has already admitted that we are still owed one from last season !
About time to play fair with us, especially after the pricing of the barca game.
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DBBIA
Is it yourself that is the Carlisle fan mate? My young brother bought my wee bhoys a Carlisle strip each but they are red. I thought Carlisle played in blue, maybe it's the away strip.
If it's yourself then you now have two young members of the Carlisle fan club. First score they look for is Celtic, then they ask for Carlisle!
Good to see them doing so well anyway. weren't they in the Conference a couple of years ago? Who can forget Jimmy Glass(?) as well!
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The Original Danny,
I've seen part 2 - as usual though the sequel is never as good as the original. still funny.
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I would love to see Cardiff win the Cup - just to see how they would handle the whle Europe issue! COuld be interesting.
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the guy deserves an oscar for doing that!
has brought joy to a lot of people i know, well done whoever it was!!
Cannae beat the humour!
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I have had my attention drawn to Gerry McNee's article in yesterday's
NOTW.
His main item is an attack on the Holy Goalie who, in Gerry's unbiased opinion, needs a 'boot up the backside'.
He then moves the poison pen onto the behaviour of Gordon Stracan, or as he calls him,..'This stroppy, grumpy little man'.
Now on to the classic McNee summation....
' As the decisive Old Firm clashes approach, Rangers manager Walter Smith must be enjoying a wry smile as Strachan FLIPS HIS LID'.
You timing is impeccable, Gerry.
You truly are a PLONKER.
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Is singapore Celt still around?
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porridge and bananas- the away strip was the classic' deckchair strip of Red/Green/White stripes and you can still buy it in the club shop. They've changed it to a more prosaic red.
I can recommend a day at Brunton for the Bhoys if they're keen- the Beehive, Olga the Fox, Nixon's Vixens. They are at home to Northampton on Easter Monday. Excellent CQNer Kevtic has also fallen under the spell of the most 'exciting club in British football'.
After a few years spent clinging onto their league position by their fingernails they have gone Relegation/ Promotion/ Promotion[champs]/consolidation/ Promotion?
Onwards and upwards to the 3+3!
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Loumacarisbettingslip
This is probably why the Queens corgi dogs have stopped soiling the royal couch as reported by smashin milk bottles above
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does old tim post on here
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dbbia
I remember going to watch Carlise v Liverpool.
My mate new big McKeller from his Accies days and he got us tickets..great day out,and plenty of beer....
Still have a wee look to see how they get on...
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Gordon J- Apparently Cardiff will not be allowed to enter the UEFA Cup, as they would be 'Welsh 'winners of an English competition.
I expect if that were the case an appeal would go to UEFA.
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if thats the case why dont they play in the welsh cup looks like gretna are going into administration
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DBBIA
Thanks mate, I might take them down that day as they should be off school for Easter Monday I would imagine. I suppose it's only a couple of hours drive down the road either way.
Maybe see you down there!
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DBB,
You're probably right. But it would be interesting to see how the issue was handled.
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Last monday we had Evening times pointing out the deplorable actions of Artur Boruc would start a riot in camp Nou if repeated. I will presume there will be follow up today highlighting the royal cardigans dignified reaction to nacho no scores assault on the hibs player..
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Porridge and bananas- let me know, and we could meet up. You didn't say how old the Bhoys were. The Beehive is the pub opposite the ground, and they let bairns in no problem.
It's £14 for adults to stand[ in the Paddock or with the Ultras in the Warwick Road end], £7 for juniors and £3 for children.
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Bhoysfour, no, we are now playing Aberdeen on 18 March in the replay.
Theragswe, 13:17, I hear that all the time in the North Stand.
Gordon J, I understand that Cardiff City are “living the dream” as we speak. Pity help them.
Loumacaris, deleted, language violation.
Celtic5678, yes, he does.
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Helllloooooo
Is the Blog Broken ??
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Living the dream, is it?
Anyone would think Peter Risdale was making a habit of this.
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i look forward to the wide spread condemnation of sir watty for pushing the fourth official ,ala neil lennon
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DBBIA
No problem mate, I'll let you know nearer the time if I will be going, though I probably will as it's a wee bit different from their normal days out. The prices seem reasonable too, we'd all get in for only £20 as the bhoys are only 6 and 5!
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When is a gap not a gap?
Yesterday as I watched the cup game on Celtic Replay, I was struck by the comparison in the cost of asembling the Celtic team vs that for Aberdeen. I do not know the precise cost and curent values of the two teams, but venture to suggest that there is a sizable gap between the two. Yet Celtic struggled to overcome their less "valuable" opponents, only avoiding defeat in the 91 minute.
Often during the game, Celtic were on the ropes for long periods defending and clearing attempts off the goal line. Not much to choose between the teams in terms of performance on the park yesterday, but certainly a significant difference in terms of the value of the assets on show.
Switch to the Camp Nou, again two teams seriously outmatched in terms of both the cost of assembly and current value, yet here there was a recognisable difference in terms of performance.
What sense can we make of that? Perhaps none, or perhaps, it shows that competitive performance is not solely based upon the value of the football assets on display. Having a financial advantage is not enough. To some degree, tactical savvy and Heart can overcome, or at least, match superior talent.
It seems to me that developing these is Celtic's best way of progressing both domestically and in Europe. Finding ways to punch above our weight is the key, and is affordable.
On another point, I am more and more impressed with Samy each time I see him. He has a great football brain. I hope we get him. To think that he might have gone to the other lot!
Rebus
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Rebus- I had similar thoughts watching the performance put in by Barnsley against Chelsea, and our poor showing in both legs against Barcelona. The gap between us and Barca must be narrower than that between Barnsley and Chelsea.
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Rebus
Amongst other things I think it shows that the tenfold increase from a 100k player to a £1m player is far less significant than the tenfold increase from £1m to £10m!!!!
Although bearing in mind we were close to our first defeat to Aberdeen in several lifetimes!
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rebus67,
Look at the FA Cup in England at the weekend. I would think only WBA would have been expected to win their match. The other teams who won would be considered to be as far away as their opponents as Aberdeen are from us, financially speaking.
Its just 4 weeks since we beat Aberdeen 5-1 at the same venue so that game may represent better the "gap".
Also would you not think that Milan would be as far ahead of us as Barcelona are yet in 4 games in 2007 we beat them once and drew twice with them.
This is the beauty of football in so far that the majority of times we will beat Aberdeen and the majority of times Barcelona will beat us but in a one off cup tie shocks can happen if the "big" team isn't at 100% and the "wee" team plays out of their skins.
Had Barcelona not came out in the second half at CP against us and played to their full potential we could be CL quarter finalists.
we will win the replay and then the double will be ours again.
Hail Hail
Mort
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rebus.......could it simply be that we showed Barca far too much respect? any underdog team who beats even the mightiest of teams show them no respect at all and just get in around them.
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Very well put Mort.
I actually thought we were in for a 0-0 yesterday due to the Barca game etc. An Aberdeen fan reckoned we would do them over again (natual order you see) but he is the most disappointed today.
Our expectations and emotions get the better of us. Money does make a big difference but there is always room for variables other than that.
When these variables come into play, they call that the magic of the cup!
Mucker
Gordon likes his Doubles
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Was at the game yesterday, with the linesman holding up the 2 minutes left board, it looked very much like we were gonners, far far too many missed chances, how ironic that the much maligned Massimo Donati set up the equalizer.
When wee Scott was taken off, it looked like a real blunder, he would have scored eventually, 100% effort non stop. So for JVOH and GG between them to finish off the move was brilliant for Gordon, in as much as tactically it looked like he got it spot on.
Saw Lee Naylor there, he looked as white as a ghost, might be the flu. And oh how Stephen Pressley celebrated the equalizer, clearly for the time being anyway, he is still very much one of us. Zander Diamond right enough was causing mayhem in our box, that’s a concern, and no doubts at all were gone but for big Artur's heroics inside the last 10 minutes. I read somewhere (on here?) that big Artur going up into their box in the 91st minute panicked them, I agree with that because before then they were fairly well composed under pressure.
The one thing that did puzzle me was how often Darren O'Dea drifted into the centre half position, leaving Naka or Aiden out left on their own, a couple of times he glanced across from the centre half position as if to say where's the left back? Thankfully, Aberdeen for whatever reason failed to exploit the free space down our left hand side.
Really hope we smash them in the replay.
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Thanks Paul.
From the looks of what was going on at Ipox,(thanks for the links bhoys). Smith was nearly in the Hibs dugout, surely there must be a severe punishment for this truly undignified behaviour!
It really is ridiculous that the establishment team and management can bully the MIB. They really believe they are above the law. If this is left to go unpunished the SFA and SPL will be the laughing stock of Europe.
And Artur Boruc cannot even applaud the fans!
BF
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The reaction already from the press on this one would be a good rod by which to measure any reaction from the powers.
Hibs' fault and the poor old pensioner was provoked don't you know. He'll probably be made out to be a Hero since he stood up to those dispicable folk within football who try to get the opposition booked etc.
I don't think that is too far away.
Slap on the wrist for what will be seen as a first offence!
Mucker
It's not paranoia
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I think its important to note a couple of things with regards how well Aberdeen played on Sunday.
1) They had more than 7 days rest since their last game
2) Jimmy Calderwood has very recently threatened a 10 man clear out in the summer
3) The state of the Aberdeen pitch
4) If Aberdeen had lost yesterday then that was the end of their season and maybe said clear out would happen a lot sooner rather than later.
It always amazes me how much other SPL teams seem much more animated and committed when playing against the Champions than they do against any other team in the SPL.
I thought that yesterday Naka, Aiden, both CB´s and Donati were well below par. Evander Sno just shaded it but I´d like to see more from him and the rest bailed there under performimg team mates out.
I though Hinkel had a very good game.
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thisman,
I think you are correct in that it depends whereabouts you are on the value scale. 100K vs 1 million vs 10 million etc.
Mort
I also agree that upon occasion, the under-dog will jump up and bite you! We have done that on the occasions that you mention.
I suppose part of the value difference that showed on Sunday was in the substitutes. On came Samy and (I know) Donati, both of whom played significant parts in the equaliser.
I could not bring myself to watch all of the Barca game, only the highlights, so I am sure I have a biased view of events. It did not look that bad -- I remember away games where Celtic never managed to get up the park. There were a couple of chances to score--Naka at the end, and JVOH earlier. What struck me was a) the superior ball skills of Barca--even moderate European teams seem to have superior ball skills to players in the Scottish game, and b) the savvy movement off the ball --- the old triangle where there is always two team mates in space and nearby to receive a pass. These are basic skills that can be learned on the training field. These problems are not new, nor are they exclusive to Celtic, it is generally true for our game.
Perhaps, the root cause lies in how the game is administered. Inadequate coaching at the youth level and inadequate policing of the senior game allowing skill players to be bullied or kicked off the park. It all leads to kick and rush football which does not fare well in Europe against a skillful team that is adequately protected by a referee.
Sorry for my Monday rant---got to go earn a living now.
Rebus
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Folks , Ive been away for a while.
I need a bit of help , I am going to be in London on sat 29th and am looking for somewhere decent to watch the Celtic v Rangers game.
Anyone from that neck of the woods with any ideas please can you get in touch.
Cheers
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terrybhoy
This gets asked from time to time on the site. You'll find most of the relevant threads pretty quickly if you Google
london pubs site:celticquicknews.co.uk
The last time it was asked in February, Kitalba posted these (he hasn't visited any of them himself, neither have I)
LONDON - JACK BEARDS, MITCHAM RD, TOOTING BROADWAY, SW17 (Wimbledon CSC)
LONDON - CODY'S BAR (aka The Rugby Tavern) LONDON RD, TWICKENHAM, MIDDLESEX (Shows Setanta)
LONDON - BROAD GREEN TAVERN, 296 LONDON RD, WEST CROYDON, CR0 4DG (Tel. 020 8240 6026 9) (Bhoys of Croydon CSC) http://www.bhoysofcroydon.com/
There are various others. When I'm in town I usually go to the Marquis of Granby at Cambridge Circus, up Charing Cross Road from Leicester Square tube. I was there on Sunday, it was very quiet but it certainly won't be for the Rangers game, get there in good time!
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Cheers for that Neil,
I'll certainly take a look at them.
Thanks again.
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Mr walter from govan who"s actions on sunday were reminiscent of a binge drinker on a saturday night is now being described as a man "still burning with passion"by a scyhophantic media,get behind mr walter seems to be the response,why arent we surprised
Is nacho ned the most hated man in scotland everytime i see that barsteward,i just detest him and wish he plays against us,and we give him the burning with passion welcome as he deserves
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£15 a ticket for the Aberdeen game, child goes free.
Celtic adopt adult-ist pricing policy.
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slightly off topic question here but hope someone can help. my wee lad is just starting to play footy down here in cardiff and rather than have him in a cardiff city jersey, i want to get him the hoops, but without the carling adverts , anyone know if it is possible to get these anywhere ??
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Paul,
Apologies if this point has already been made, but "Walter" was not being aggressive, he was merely proving that he was passionate, that he had the hunger necessary to win this league. The mask of urbanity which he so carefully cultivates, slipped yesterday.
He's a ned in sheep's clothing.
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im I hearing right did snyde keevins and bfdj say they havnt seen the incident regaurding mr walter from govan,then contradict themselves by both saying yes novo was rightly sent of as it was a bad tackle
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Bloke 109,
Not on the official site - where did you hear that?
£15 sounds good to me. Presumably Home Ticket Scheme applies?
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Gordon J
You've caught me - they mentioned it on Clyde :)
Keevins said it should be free.
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walter smith will get a rap on the knuckles, nothing more. he has an "exemplary record" no doubt. any reference to the exact nature of his rant will be met with "the matter is dealt with and closed" line.
y'know, the words of the month on this blog are: Denigrate and Invective. only my dictionary-swallowing lawyer-mate uses them words.
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Rebus67, perhaps we should play all our home CL games up in Aberdeen. The state of the pitch and the gusting wind can be real levellers. Just ask Bayern.
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CardiffBhoy,
They definitley sell the jerseys without sponsors in the Official Shops or online. I've seen them in the airport a few times.
Mucker
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Great to see that Cesar will be awarded an honorary degree in June by Glasgow University. His old pal John Greig will similarly be recognised.
I always thought that the club could have found an ambassadorial role for him.
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EDB
agree wholeheartedley Billy McNeil.deserves more from celtic,he has been one of celtics greatest ever servants,and should have been given a more prominent role at the club along the lines you suggest
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Why do I have a wee dustbin underneath my comment?
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Dennis 47
everyone has a bin, clik it if you want to delete your comment
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thanks abmucker, seems like they only have the carling free jerseys for older kids , my wee lad is 3 , seems the powers that be seem to think its ok for him to be a beer advert !
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Paul67
I've felt that on occasion it was beneficial to the board to bring out the Lisbon Lions pre match etc. to boost their (the board) image at difficult times.
Don't have a great problem with that but do you know if Cesar was ever likely to be given a role at Celtic similar perhaps to Beckenbauer at Bayern and for whatever reason it didn't pan out?
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The following is taken from Celtic's website. Worrying news: good luck Tommy.
CELTIC Football Club has tonight issued a statement regarding first-team coach Tommy Burns.
A spokesperson for the club said: “Celtic FC today confirmed that first-team coach Tommy Burns is to receive continued cancer treatment.
“Tommy intends to continue in his role as first-team coach and Head of Youth Academy during this period of treatment.
“Clearly, Celtic Football Club requests that the privacy of Tommy and his family is respected at this time.”
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best wishes Tommy Burns,terrible news you know the whole celtic family is wishing you well
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Best wishes Tommy. Sure everything will be just fine.
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My dear,dear, friend El Diego Bhoy
It seems from your submission, that you are in agreement with Glasgow University in Bestowing an
Honorary Degree on Mr. McNeil.
I hereby, wish to go on record in stating... that I am diametrically opposed to this bestowal.
That being said...
My question is ...
Why are they prompted to dispense this honor on an individual, who has absolutely no connections to this University?
And for what purpose, are they doing so?
I am not picking on Mr. McNeil per se... however,this present nonsense of awarding MEANINGLESS Honors, to Tom Dick and Herbert , is a Trait that I despise.
It seems that this piece of nonsense, is a ploy that is used only for self-agrandisement, by the Universities of the world.
I for one, despise the practice.
A University exists for doing what Universities have been doing for years...
Education and Teaching...and... that's it.
Although, I am well aware they are also, usually... a hot bed of nonsensical socialistic ideologies...
But true to form ...they turn around and fly in the face of their Socialistic Tendencies...
and....
Here we have them indulging in ELITISM, at it's most disgusting and self indulging.
Case closed.
Kojo.
yer pal....who hates phoney Bequests.
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Tommy,
You are one of us and we are with you all the way.
Wishing you strength and a speedy and full recovery.
Hail Hail!
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Paul67
Have you heard anything about us playing a game against our biggest rivals in Sydney this summer?
I dread the very thought.
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EDB
I thought Barcelona were training at Gleneagles again this summer ?
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Calton Tongues,
From last thread.
Decent left footed centre back -
Daniel Passarella.
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wdh
Very droll! And wasn't it actually St.Andrews?
How was Barcelona for you? Did the earth move?
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Tommy Burns - you will never walk alone. We are all with you once more.
Curly
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Tommy,
The Celtic family are with you.
We will pray for a successful outcome to this battle.
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EDB
you are correct.
They stay at Gleneagles and train at the Uni.
Interestingly I was talking to the lovely Scottish girl Katherine who owns Formatgeria La Seu in Barca last week.
She was telling us she had the pleasure of recently serving Andrew Fairlie (head chef at Gleaneagles) and good tim.
I can bring any post round to food/football.
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wdh
I just knew you would:o)
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Apologies for being half-cut. Been celebrating the 85th birthday of my auld Dad and his brother-in-law's, my uncle Frank, 77th (and the feast of St John Ogilvie forbye). Lovely evening until I came on to CQN to learn of Tommy Burns' recurrence of cancer. My prayers and best wishes to you, Tommy, and your family at this time. You have been one of the great Celtic footballers of my lifetime: a joy to watch. Here's to a full recovery.
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Alan Stubbs-
Decent left footed centre half.
Walter Smith-
"the vain serpent"-
Quality from Paul67.
I'd just have called him a hun showing his true colours.
Walter Smith that is.........
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it seems the piece of film showing walter smith push the fourth official nearly knocking him over, has vanished from our screens.
no longer to be broadcast on bbc
much like the zapruder video, or more recently the
4 - 2 game.
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Dennis 47, 19:32, try behaving like that at Celtic Park, or on the street and see what happens to you. “Walter” has not set a precedent to follow.
The dustbin allows you to delete your comment.
EDB, I have never seen the Lisbon Lions paraded to support the board, or a board policy, although several are still employed by the club.
I would argue that your own policy, to give Billy an ambassadorial role, would be more like using him to support the board, rather than employing him at functions and games, with no duty to advocate the club’s policies.
Can you imagine PL sitting down with Billy and saying, “We’ll give you £XX per annum, but you need to go out and tell people what we want to say”?
Heard nothing about an Australia game.
NeilR, let’s hope Tommy copes as well this time with his illness as he did last time.
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My thoughts are with you Tommy.
I hope you and your family can have peace of mind to cope with a trying illness.
You are one of my alltime favourite Celts.
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El Diego-
There is as much chance of Celtic playing the monkeys in Australia as there is of me digging up Big Mixu ,in HIS OWN technical area, at the next Huns v Hibs game-
and getting away with it.
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Han Solo, I think that was quite a favourable review of “Walter”.
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bournsouprecipe
mr walter from govans actions did not happen and have been erased by sinister forces,as Rob Mclean would say
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Clear double standards as usual - but are we surprised?
And is Novo getting off with a one match ban for that tackle? What a joke.
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Evening Gents
Bit of a long story but I'm trying to help some Japanese people get to the game this Saturday. They booked the trip when we were playing Dundee Unt at home. Their flight is due to arrive at Glasgow Airport at 9.50am on Saturday. I think getting a taxi from the airport to Fir Park is the best bet ? If so does anyone know how much this would cost and could they recommend a Motherwell taxi firm ?
They don't have tickets either but I think they should be able to pick up 3 at the ground ? Celtic won't sell them tickets as they not ST holders.
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Tommy Burns represents everything that is good about Celtic and has spent his career asking what he can do for Celtic rather than the other way about. Hopefully he will have the strength to get through this!
Twists and Turns!
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Get It Right Round You Rob Maclean-
Nacho The Ned and Chibman Walter TOTALLY losing the plot.
Minimum 6 match ban for Novo is a must-same as the Benfica lad who done Scott Brown.
Walter Smith should be thinking over his position right now.
Most disgraceful performance from a manager I have ever seen.
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see the under 19s won against Dundee Utd, despite:
Carlo Monti being sent off for his first tackle which celticfc.net thought was a good tackle.
Michael Tidser being sent of for being brought down in the box.
Richie Towell being stretchered off (the 4th player to go off injured) with blood poring out of his leg (the dundee utd player wasnt booked)
and to finish it all
8 man Celtic hanging on for NINE minutes of injury time....
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loumacarisbettingslip
novo couldn't believe he was red carded
see the look on his face, wonder if he was a dirty little rat before he signed for ragners.
all media heat directed at mixu, and no focus on the tackle that caused it.
whereas, picture any celtic player making the same tackle, (difficult i know) and they would be advocating a life ban on the front pages.
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Parkheadcumsalford
Belated birthday greetings to your dad.
I'm sure you treasure his every day - I know I do with my Mum and Dad. 77 and 81 years young.
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Just read on the terrible news on the official site about Tommy Burns.
Tommy Twists Tommy Burns is a true Celtic man and an absolute gent. I cannot think of anyone I'd rather have represent the face of Celtic and I hope the whole stadium shows they are right behind him on Wednesday night.
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Tommy Burns, God bless you.
Our Lady of Lourdes, pray for us.
St Peregrine, pray for us.
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Madeira Bhoy, you got that piece about the U-19's a wee bit wrong. According to the Celtic FC site it was ONLY seven minutes of added on time. Makes you wonder, eh?
A wee bit off topic, but a big secondhand thanks to Paul for this fab site. My older cousin Pat emigrated to USA many, mnay years ago and we lost touch until about two years ago. He always was a great Celtic man and when I heard he was seriously ill I contacted his daughter and got her to latch on to CelticQuickNews.
Pat unfortunately died a short time ago , but his daughter Patty said he just loved the last couple of years, catching up on the Tims' news most days of the week. Another happy Tim in paradise.
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Good call Ardoch. Let's have a soecial song for Tommy on Wednesday.
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bournesouprecipe
he was despised by all in the SPL/1st division prior to choosing the dark side. A list as long as your arm as far as bad tackles and off the ball incidents are concerned.
Particularly hated by his ex-team mate who took him under his roof, but thats another story, which Im not going to go into here!
Dirty little rat doesnt even scratch the surface with this one Im afraid.
Peat
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Danny@ 21.27
In my experience taxis from the ranks outside the airport are very expensive, well over 50 quid.
You can get a hopper bus ( every 15-20mins) outside main terminal to Buchanan st bus station,around 3 quid.Then a private cab or train from Queen st to Motherwell would be a lot cheaper.
Sad news about TB hope he makes a full recovery.
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Clde radio are lying bar stewards .
I`m not a usual listener but my radio picked up their signal as i entered Ayr .Both HK and PM denied that el cardo pushed the 4th official, they scoffed at the caller who suggested it .
I nearly crashed the car with rage ......... lying , cheating scumbags
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Han so low,i am right here,and the name is johnnyquest,with an H,if you can't get that right then probably best to just leave it to the more erudite among us,must say though,i wholeheartedly agree with your point about the press in Scotland.We never get an even break,never have had,and,sadly,it looks as though we never will,just makes victory all the sweeter when you think just how many bigots are scunnered by our success.One more thing,one of the earlier posters was complaining about the "journalist"gerry mc nee,surely by now we should all be aware of his agenda,he is a very poor writer,therefore,not having the talent to generate interest in his column,he will make any attempt to stir controversy by writing or uttering,inflammatory statements,he really should just be denied the oxygen of publicity.I realise that i am giving him such pulicity right now,but,this is my attempt to urge all contributors to ignore his inane rants,if we stop talking about him,he WILL go away,this will be my last word on him.
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Clyde ..even
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Private cab from airport to Blantyre £20; add about another £5 to ML1.
taxi would cost over£50 if you get it from the rank at airport.
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Paul...
I as a Rangers fan have been reading your site's articles for the past couple of years. I find some of what you write, with regards to the financial side of things, interesting albeit understandably put with a positive spin on most things as is your want for your club; and given that is of course a Celtic fan site.
Firstly let me say that I wish Tommy B all the best just now. He is a credit his club and country and let's all hope that he can pull through and win his battle.
In reading your site in recent months I have noted a trend for you to head down the lines of perpetuating the myth of Celtic being hard done to in terms of refereeing decisions and the like throughout the history of the game in this country. I can only speak in terms of the current climate, not being old enough to remember what it may have been like in the earlier parts of the 20th century. Celtic have had some harsh decisions in the past; the Farry scandal being one example and the right result was arrived at. But this theory that things continually go against your club really does nobody from the club any credit. Fans, players or manager.
Taking this season as an example. There is a gripe that Celtic have been getting a hard time from referees, and that by association to this Rangers have had decisions in their favour. The theory over Mike McCurry being anti-Celtic being one example because he booked 9 Celtic players in an Old Firm game. McGeady being the type of player he is being booked so much when he is not a dirty player. Many of his bookings being as a result of him being a mouthy player. I don't doubt there have been some bookings which have been harsh. But just because this has happened does not mean that bodies are conspiring against Celtic. Rangers have had some truly abysmal decisions go against us this season, and the odd one for us too. Ferguson's handball in the League Cup semi-final being one. However decisions at ICT re an offside goal that wasn't offside, Gretna away when we were awarded a penalty and then it was not allowed as the incident was deemed offside anyway when it wasn't offside. The goal in the OF game that was not offside. The penalty decisions we did not get in both ties against Hibs in the cup. There are many more. Just as you could list many for your side. These are not the result of a conspiracy, just mistakes from the referees and co. It happens. Just get on with things and accept that these mistakes do happen.
I have noted in recent articles and comments that you have begun to deride Rangers, and bemoan our 'refereeing decisions' to the extent where you suggest that we are in benefit of favours from the hierarchy of the Scottish game. I note that these have become more frequent as the season has worn on and your predictions of Celtic comfortably winning the league ahead of Rangers because of the club's respective financial positions at the moment (some of which I agree with btw... the JJB deal is not something I was a fan of in any case and I felt it was short termism by Murray; just as the Hutton sale was... don't get me started on that one!) isn't bearing fruit. There is a long way to go still and I personally make Celtic favourites due to our run-in being slightly tougher with more away games. Every fan has their right to moan about decisions etc, it is what the game should be about. Opinions. But comments such as your reference to another conspiracy back in 03 that Dunfermline 'lay-down' at Ibrox and relating that somehow to Jimmy Calderwood being given some form of retribution for his part in that great anti-Celtic piece of Scottish football history are all-the-more surprising from a site which claims to not indulge in lazy journalism. Celtic news, not lazy journalism indeed. Why then feel the need to go down these routes?
re the Smith incident; he deserves everything he gets for that incident. It was very poor fare and I expect he will be banned for a number of games, rightly so. I think a similar ban to that handed out to Mr Lennon would seem sufficient, 3 games I think?
I expect that this post may be moved/deleted and or derided by some fans on here. This is not unexpected as it is probably fair game given I am a gers fan posting on your site. But I just felt I wanted to post some thoughts.
Here's to an exciting run-in and may the best team win. Let's leave it at that and not taint it; whoever comes out on top.
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What we are witnessing in Medialand is the result of Murray's summit with the media when he called on the "Rangers Family" to get behind the club.
W. Smith's actions yesterday showed the other side of a Rangers supporter.
There are only two kinds of them.
One, the knuckledragger who is to be found everywhere with their vile, foul mouthed obscenities dripping from their mouths.
The second, is the mild mannered, plausibly disingenuous, patronising gent, who we all know. The kind who didn't actually see the bad tackle or read the offending piece.
One who can plausibly explain away 135 years of dignity, but every once in a while, the masks slips and they are exposed as a worse specimen than the aforementioned ned who at least has the excuse of being pig ignorant.
Smith falls into the category of the second kind.
The evil tree cannot bear good fruit.
Keep telling it, Han Solo.
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Peat Blog
i agree, don't recall a player so small, and slight
that kicked players the way novo does. he usually does it from behind as well making him all the more detestable.
pfayr
it did'nt happen timmy get over it
even though we all saw it
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blantyretim & lynott67
Yes I was thinking of booking a taxi from the Motherwell area to pick-up them up at the airport. Anyone know of a decent company ?
I'm a bit concerned the Japanese students will get ripped off. With their flight not due in until 9.50 I don't think they have time to get a bus to Central, get the train, walk to the ground & sort out tickets.
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govanrear
The day after Dunfermline "lay down" to rangers the whole team flew out to Spain for a nice wee holiday. There was much back slapping and celebrating going on for the part they played.This was from the father of the management team... a fellow season ticket holder at ibrox.
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Danny
I'd try Cadzow cabs in Hamilton-always found them reasonable.
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Govanrear,while i do not agree with your sentiments,i defend your right to hold them,and to share them with us here,i would be amazed,and very dissappointed,if your post is either deleted,or removed,that is not how this site operates,if you truly believe that things even themselves out over time,i look forward to the eighteen months your club goes, without being awarded a domestic penalty kick,this happened in the nineties at Celtic.I'm sure,when this anomaly is addressed and parity is restored,you will be the first to shrug your shoulders and accept it as part of the game.Till then,please,and i honestly mean it,continue to post here,i really do look for balanced contributions from rival fans such as your self.
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Pfayr-
Get a grip.
The You Tube video is obviously a fake[£30 software Timmy]
How could you even think such a thing of Sir Walter of Rosevale?
Govan Rear-
Good post.
You can take your blue-tinted specs off now though.
Johnnyquest-
you know that I am not him.
Maybe you are...........
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Danny
Blantyre taxi 01698 825000. they will give you a quote and you can book it, they also have a ring back option to let you know that they are waiting for you.
BTW the game is already in danger due to Gretna playing tomorrow night and the wet weather in the area
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havanalaugh
Thanks, I'll give them a call.
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@ Mick
1. If Dunfermline did lie down that day, wasn't it really a bad idea to score an absolute belter of a goal and force Klos into 2 other very very good saves that day?
2. If someone offers to pay for a holiday, do you just say... nah I won't take it because someone may think it was a conspiracy. I think you would take the offer of a free booze up would you not?
Did Sutton know what the management's father had planned if they had lay down as 'pre-agreed'?
Most importantly you know this to be fact, because? Not stating you are wrong, just wondering how you know you are right?
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Han solo,i honestly have no idea what you are talking about,please explain
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govanrear
nice wind up
as a man once said
"you cannot be serious "
i suppose it`s all a coincidence or a figment of our paranoid imagination
you seem like an intelligent person ....feel free to use it when considering the lack of parity in penalties /fouls and bookings for and against /managerial bans etc
and thereafter you may consider whether it`s paranoia or fact
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SeeBee, thanks for sharing that news about your cousin, Pat. My thoughts are with you, Patty and the rest of Pat’s family.
Welcome govanrear, good to hear from you.
First of all, if you have been reading for a while, you should know that I don’t delete adversarial comments (not that your's is). As long as the language bar is respected, posts stay.
I very seldom talk about referees and did for the first time this season when Celtic benefited from a couple of dubious decisions away to Falkirk a couple of months ago.
The Aiden McGeady situation this season is an interesting case. He is prone to speak out, but I believe he does not get the protection he deserves. I see cause and effect and framed my comments on him in this light.
I believe that most referees do their best to be even handed, but I also try to be even handed, but don’t always manage it. Referees will be no different.
Mike McCurry is just a bad referee. He failed to control the Celtic game at Ibrox and failed again in the LC semi at Hampden.
I do deride Rangers every now and then, this is a Celtic site after all, often when I think they are not getting it from the old media when they should be.
I indulged in rhetoric today with my comments on Jimmy Calderwood and Walter Smith, although I was deliberately vague on Calderwood; Karma is a complex business.
Smith has escaped ridicule due to his position; if Mixu (not being over familiar, just cannot spell his surname) acted in that manner he would be the sacrificial lamb right now.
Do I get a prize for working Buddhism and Judaism into a reply?
Glad to hear you think we are favourites, I hope you’re right!
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youtube just about catches smiths faux pas
watch to the very end, but sportscene before the suppression was called by murray, was much more clear.
watch to the very end when the 4th official goes towards smith
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Danny
I forgot the early kick off at fir park, a taxi is the only option.
Even the private cabs can be very expensive as some have big boundary charges.
Govanrear-well done for coming on but you must be at the wind up if you are telling us with a sraight face that your club have had as many poor refereeing decisions as us in the last 100 years.
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Govanrear-
maybe you will now be entering the one penalty in 15 years period( see celtic in 30s-40s
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Bournesoup-
Well spotted.
Got to be 6 game ban for Smith as well-
unless-
that wasn't the 4th official he pushed-
Could have been his carer.
Johnnyquest-
yes- you do.
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Cheers guys for your responses.
I know that naturally as a fan you notice grievances against your side far more than against other teams. Equally you turn a blind eye to some beneficial decisions as they tend to be forgotten if they help you win a game! This is where we all, either consciously or not, wear blue or green specs! I am not sure how often I will be able to post on here as I am on a few forums and read a few blogs and stuff (moderating one which is an Old Firm forum; if you wish to know more about it then email me at gavwright2@yahoo.co.uk) and tend to struggle to keep up with all of them.
Cheers anyway folks.
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22:16, govanrear
Welcome to the Blog and I hope you post often. It is so important for us to read what the 'other half' are thinking and how they see and interpret incidents.
I would not bring you to task over your post. I was at Falkirk when the ref could easily have awarded Falkirk 2 penalties, I watched with surprise when the ref. awarded Celtic a free kick at Love St to enable Naka to score, what could be, a title deciding goal but what I will say is an injustice, is the way that your Chairman has some of the media poodles lapping at his feet, printing his obvious untruths and refusing to do some good investigative journalism into some of the goings on at Ibrox.
Hope you are right about the destination of the Flag..........it's all that matters.
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Han solo,to clear this mystery up,tell me,did we once work together,in Dunbar?
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Danny
There is every chance i might be going to the game, will find out by Wed. If i am going, i live in Renfrew and will be driving right by the airport and can take my people carrier.
I will run them over and drop them back off in Glasgow. If i can't make it they should all a local taxi firm Houston cabs 01505 325000
or Paisley cabs 0141 887 7770
Let me know if you are interested.
GAWF
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Danny
Your comment re. your Japanese friends has touched a spot I have for all the fans who make a great effort to see the "Tic.
I'm going on my own to the game (normally travel with a young lady but she's given me the 'brush off') so I would be more than happy to pick your friends up and take them to Fir Park.
If you want to progress this email me at undefined>celticlover@gmail.com
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Guys, I think I mentioned in my post that I can't comment and pour scorn on some theories from years back as I have only been around since 1980! If I didn't then I meant to!
I am not at the wind up. I cannae be bothered with all that as we get enough on our forum believe me! Neither is this some sort of advertising campaign for it, hence why I have not posted the link.
Paul, I wasn't sure if it would be deleted or not. I am not sure how this place works, but did notice that some posts had been removed. I wasn't sure that this was all done by the author or by the site owner or whatever. lol @ your buddhism & judaism line.
Maybe it is because I don't come from the same supporters base. i don't know. If I had been brought up with stories told of wronged decisions etc (we have enough of them on our side too!) then perhaps I would subscribe to some of these theories too. But I just don't believe they exist.
Regards the 1 penalty awarded way back when over a certain period of time. One of our members on our forum investigated that and found at least 5 penalties where Celtic had scored against Hearts during the time of said accusation then stopped looking as this was in fact a myth. I can't speak for him, but I know he is not a Wind up kind of guy so can't imagine he was telling porkies. Like I say, I know that the attitudes of this country have changed since the first airings of sectarian goings on. Rangers policy re catholics was a farce an we have rightly moved on. Perhaps there was an agenda against Celtic way back when. I don't know. But since I have been old enough to watch and take in games I cannot think of there being one (Farry scandal apart which was just a bloody joke!). Maybe that is those blue tinted specs again. But by the same token there are some green tinted ones on here too ;-)
I actually believe that had Mixu Put-a-line-on had done what Smith had he would not have been subject to the same number of calls, and pages as Strachan and/or Smith have in recent incidents. It is the nature of the OF.
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Danny,
Club Taxis from New Stevenston (just outside Motherwell, call it a suburb perhaps?) 01698 834545 have a set fee of £35 from Glasgow Airport to Motherwell Town centre.
Decent, reliable firm - use them most times myself.
Could be worth a call mate.
BlantyreTim,
when was the last time you got a taxi from Blantrye to Motherwell mate? 1983? An extra fiver...LOL! more like £10-15 my friend.
No offence intended mate, just want to use same taxi firm as you please! :-)
HAIL! HAIL!
LifeOnMars CSC
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Govanrear
I welcome your well constructed, well voiced, and well intentioned submission.
I hope that you will continue to post on this site, as it is not very often that a member of the loyal opposition, submits his version of the truth...as he sees it!
What is truth?
A silly question... or.. is it?
I have every confidence that I can recognise the truth when I see it.
Although... I am also sure that you in your own judgement, also has that ability.
But wait a minute.... are we only fooling ourselves?
Now, that I think about it...
Yeah, we sure are!
To tell you the truth, the truth of the matter, is this...
Whatever, I recognise as the truth, is..... well..... The Truth!
And therefore by the same train of illogic....
Whatever, that you deem to be the truth...is.... well... The Truth!
Nevertheless, this kind of controversial soup tickles the world's palate.
It is what makes life so interesting.
There must always be a Protagonist for every Antagonist.
And the beauty of this state of affairs....is that one always believes that he/she is undoubtedly, the Protagonist... in the ongoing controversy...
And his rival is always... the Antagonist!
The point that I am struggling manfully to make ,is this....
I hope that you continue to post your thoughts and views.
We,of course, in our wisdom.....
Will totally disagree with all of your main arguments against our confirmed points of view.
And you, of course, will scoff at our assertions and accusations, targetted, against your points of view.
Ergo...
In that way we will be in for a smashing and entertaining, knock-down,old fashioned...cyber Donnybrook!
Much to the delight of both sides!
As I have said once... na!... more than that!
Controversy, is what makes the world go round!
Just ask your significant other... well... on third thoughts...
That might just lead to... ?
Although, as you know..make up time..can be a rather rewarding experience...
Keep on trucking.
Kojo.
who thinks ye hive spunk...
And, confidetially.... I HATE SPUNK!
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govanrear
I came back from Seville on the Friday night, got my head down and put a shift in on my taxi on the Saturday night ahead of another session on the Sunday.
That night on BBC Radio Scotland Jimmy Calderwood was asked about the upcoming game the next day at Ibrox. This may not be exactly word for word but almost.
His words were 'I would feel bad about upsetting my father, who has a season ticket at Rangers. We are just going to go there and enjoy the occasion'. At that point, to my knowledge, there was no 'occasion'. I thought there was a competitive game of football going to be played between Rangers and Dunfermline.
Chris Sutton was absolutely right in what he said. I just wish there were more like him who tell it like it is. Surely you must recall the penalty incident at the death. Only an ex-Rangers player could have gave that away, it was ridiculous!
You can be sure the Dunfermline players put a lot less into that game than the Killie players did v us. Timewasting when you are 2-0, 3-0 and 4-0 down, have you ever seen anything like it? You had the likes of Alan Mahood, a man I despise, celebrating like mad and giving it big licks in the tunnel to the Celtic players.
A wee story about Alan Mahood. I was 13 at the time, about to sign an S form with Morton when I turned 14 in the March of 1994, this was the October school break 1993. Training with the first team at the Battery Park in Greenock we were doing an excercise where you ran backwards round a square, heading the ball back to your partner. I had the Cork City strip of the time under my Morton training top, it consisted of green, white and red stripes and you could just see the collar and the bottom from under the training top. Anyways, I go and fall over a cone like an eejit and Mahood was in the next duo behind me and my partner. He comes over as if to help me up but instead pulls his hand away, laughs, and says 'Get up yersel ya wee fenian b******'. I've never forgotten it and just wish I had the guts to 'do' him in the game at the end, but I didn't want to endanger my prospects with Morton.
Had I known I was to suffer an injury to my knee that summer that kept me out for over a year I might have thought differently.
As you can see, unlike the Murphys, I am bitter still about that day in 2003!
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govanrear
Like a few others I hope you can post hear more frequently and give us the alternative point of view.
If you have been reading for a couple of years then you will know that your fellow "bear" EdwardUrsus has been welcome here since day one.
I don't agree with Edward too often but I am glad he posts here and I hope you join in that. (I'm sure Edward could do with some moral support anyway).
The problem is that we Celtic supporters have rarely or ever been welcome on Rangers forums to debate a point of view and as such most of us simply give up as it is too much hassle and abuse.
Maybe more civilised exchanges between us all (although I doubt we will ever agree on anything)would make the world a tiny wee bit better than it normally is in the West of Scotland and elsewhere.
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Celticlover cheers dude.
I didn't see that game but it seemed like it was full of contentious decisions!
You talk about the Naka free kick at St Mirren which was soft, but equally poor old Falkirk suffered similarly at ibrox when JCD got a very soft one from which Boyd scored the opener. Some you win some you lose I guess is all I am trying to say.
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govanrear
I meant to add that, and I'm sure almost all on CQN would agree, that being a bluenose doesn't lead to any sort of abuse on here. you only have to look at the way our friend Edward is welcome on the site to see the healthy debate that ensues from his presence on the site!
You put forward a good case to back up your side, but any mention of Calderwood and that game in 2003 see the red mist come down!
And I still think McCurry is a cheat, pure and simple, but we agree to disagree!
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Well folks, I don't know what any of you ghuys think about the latest slap in the face as delivered by our Club, I am allowed to take an under 16 to the cup replay free of charge ???
Well, whoop de doo, I don't know any ??
So where is my thanks ??
Only £15 a ticket I hear you say
What about the "Free" games from about 4 of the last 5 seasons that the club have reneged on ?
I an my good lady have not missed a home game at Celtic park since the completion of the Jock Stein, we used to go to every away game that we were offered, until it appears this no longer suited the Glasgow mafia ( London Road crook society ) and due to working full time, cannot get to the park during the expansive opening hours " 10 - 4 ", now this is the thanks ???
Thanks for nothing Celtic.
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Totally off-topic here folks but I just received a phone call from Celtic trying to sell me the Celtic Credit Card. When I said I wasn't interested the guy pretty abruptly hung up on me. I'm never one to criticise the club but I don't think this is the way we should be treating fans who already plough as much money as possible into the club without risking divorce or bankruptcy (whichever comes first!).
The guy was pretty chatty at first but I found it strange for a Celtic employee to be coming out with "I'm pretty disappointed with the season so far" while trying to sell me a club credit card.
This is the third time they've called. The first being midway through the second half of the Barca game!?! The guy said "Is this a good time to talk to you?" and I thought he was joking!
I'm a season ticket holder and I am still daft enough to buy every new strip that comes out but I don't really appreciate the club trying to get even more money out of me this way.
On more important matters, my best wishes go out to Tommy Burns. The term Celtic legend is used way too hastily but Tommy is one of the few who really deserves the label. Who knows whether Tommy would have stopped the (second) 9IAR if he had been backed to the hilt with money the way Smith was back then. If there is such a thing as Karma, then Tommy will help Gordon beat the waistcoat in the aftermath of Rangers' financial bubble bursting thanks to previous over-spending.
Finally, calling all season ticket holders. If you can possibly make it along to the game on Wednesday please try your best. We badly need to improve the atmosphere and show that we want to win the league more than the dark side. Two wins this week and we go top and the pressure passes to the other side of the city for a while.
Craiginho
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ex-port tim
Is that the script for the replay? My wee bhoy is only 6 and his ticket is paid for on the home cup ticket scheme automatically by Direct Debit. I wonder if they'll take the ticket money from himif that's the case. It also means I can legally take my other wee bhoy and I don't need to squash the two of them in at the same time using my older bhoys ticket!
I suppose it is a way of swelling the crowd and giving kids who might not get the chance to go often the chance to see a big match and not some pre-season game. I am surprised though as I thought it might have been a healthy attendance in any case.
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tomdickfoolery & celticlover
Overwhelmed by your kind offers. I will be in touch.
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Oops,
should have read "...Blantyre to Motherwell..."
GovanRear,
good to hear from you, but obviously I disagree with your thoughts on the bias issue. Can I just say though, that being a product of a mixed mariage - my mothers family proud green-tinted spec wearers, whilst my father's side are blue-tinted-occasionally-speckled-with-orange spec wearers -I tend not to indulge in the hyperbole often associated with this issue.
However, even my old man - who thanks to a few years spent working down in England mellowed in the divide - has agreed that over the years he has been watching the game, Rangers receive much more of the blatant awards whilst they tend to go against Celtic, two fairly recent examples being Bazza Ferguson's hand-ball in the CIS Semi and the non award of the penalty to Celtic after Neil Lennon was scythed down in the box at Ibrox last year.
Other notables this season have been the lack of bookings for rangers players running into the crowd to celebrate, whereas Celtic's players have been booked.
No doubt we will always agree to disagree on this, but keep posting and I look forward to disagreeing with you more often.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
PS - BTW you do know we already have a resident Teddy Berr who posts on this site, you could be stepping on his toes. Hope he thinks so too and you two have a wee rammy, nothing better than watching a set-to involving two gers fans beating lumps out of each other. As long as they both lose that is! :-)
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Porrigeand,
Yes, straight from the official site,
Glad to hear you can use it, but sounds like they will nail you using the home cup scheme anyway.
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@ Kojo - lmao. Brilliant.
Porridge - I have that game on DVD and there is no way on this earth that they were lying down. The penalty at the end actually made no difference to the final outcome, but I take the point you are trying to make because it could have done. I would suggest though that the referee got that one wrong! It was very soft and MacPherson is raging when it is given against him. Even debating it seems pointless as we are never going to agree on it anyway!
Shamrock, cheers for that mate. Interesting that I am not the only bear who seems to venture on here for a wee gander from time to time.
Some forums, on both sides of the divide, are irritating because you can't debate without being castigated at times! Some of the stuff on follow follow is a bloody joke I am told... I have never even looked at it because other people have told me it is ridiculous. This is why the old beeb boards were good because you got an Old Firm one which was good for banter and debate. Paul, I don't want you to think I am trying an ad campaign! I am not mate honest; but if anyone fancies it then drop a message to the address above. If you aren't happy about it being on there Paul please just remove it if you can, or ask me to if you don't have 'moderating' powers to do so or whatever you need for this internet thingymajig... :-/
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I think £15 for the replay is pretty reasonable. There are costs to be covered and, as far as I know, no TV income from the game.
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Tommy Burns, you will be in all our prayers.
Good Luck and keep fighting the good fight TB.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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govanrear
On that Sunday, we got a pen and missed it, but our most creative force (Maloney) was taken out early by the aforementioned runt Mahood, Gordon Marshall time-wasted from the hour-mark, Killie fans cheered as they were horsed. However, is it urban myth or more to suggest that the Dunfermline players headed off to the airport hours after the game? Last game of the season, where's the incentive to put in 100%? Ah, bygones, but despite the passage of time, the smell lingers. Maybe we won't find closure til we win on the last day. This season, when we beat Calderwood's Aberdeen?
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Gordon J,
I take your point, but I think you missed mine ( though mine was badly put in the first place )
Yes, on the face of it £15 is reasonable, if not for the fact that they still owe us games ( which we have already paid for )
covering costs in situations like these are why we have to shell out before the half way point ( mostly up front revenue )of the season, low cost or not, should be free, as already paid for more than once.
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Bloke....
Re the Killie fans.. would you not think that they would have jeered the Rangers players and fans if their title was about to go to the other side by the closest of margins? Football fans wind each other up. I would think that's what the killie fans were doing rather than en-mass wishing that Celtic didn't win the league!
Marshall maybe time-wasted; I have no idea having not seen it but take your word for it mate. But as an ex-Celt surely he should be castigated for this as much as those who like to do so against Mahood and the likes. The urban myth possibility you were talking about, I have no idea but Mick earlier mentioned it and I replied. I don't think he has replied yet.
Finally, if you want some sort of 'vengeance' on Calderwood you better hope his side make the top 6 this year! ;-) Maybe you could distract him by giving him a bunch of vouchers for the tanning salons on Duke st! Bit of bribery may work wonders! ;-)
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Govanrear,
I was at the Killie game, and witnessed a near riot when a member of the Killie backroom team kept popping out of the little medical centre, each time holding up fingers to show the ipox scoreline, this info was also passed onto the team on the pitch,
Just cos were paranoid, doesn't mean that they aint out to get us.
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My dear friend, Ex-port Tim
You,pal... are in sair need o' a spot o' friendly counseling.
Fur dinna ye know that....this is Celtic, ye are talkin' aboot!...
For Heaven's sake!... Da Celts!
You know.... The Team that ye live and breathe fur.. the wans that ye think aboot jist afore ye go tae sleep and the very wans that ye think aboot awe day...and canny wait till ye see them in their next gemme!
Dinna be sa crabbit about the expense of following yer heroes...
Heck! I only money!
Tie up awe yer beefs and girns...in a neat bundle... and bury dem deep!
Fur every pleesure in life there is ayeways and expense...hidden, sometimes,it may be..
But believe me ...
Nothing coasts Nothin!
So, kick back and hiv a glass o' cheer ..and stoap dat cryin' in yer beer!
Try it! Ye'll be gled ye did!
Kojo.
yer pal... who kin sympaathise wi' ye ... fur ah am soitenly no sae slow, masel..when it comes tae watchin' ma curdies!
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Govanrear :- I can assure you as a Rangers fan who has posted on here for some time that your posts won't be deleated unless the are offensive or obcene. This is about the most tolerant site that I know of and for that the credit goes to Paul.
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Kojo,
My Pal :-) everyone else has gone to bed, go-on, speak english ? Please ?
I too live and breathe Celtic, but its startin to get to the stage where its all take and no give, just once, someone in the marketing team might get an idea that involves a finance stream that aint the regular Joe's pockets, just once, Nah, too much to ask.
btw, say hi if you see me on Wed night, Jock Stein Lower, celtic top, scarf, jaiket, bunnet, ye canny miss me : -)
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Talking about Mahood in that game, he wasn't even booked!!
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I'm off to my kip, but if you fancy making some money tomorrow have a punt on Abragante in the 4.00 at Cheltenham.
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Han Solo,i await your answer,with breath suitably bated.
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govanrear - welcome to CQN. Any intelligent Rangers fan will always be welcome on this site. Congratulations on doubling the number.
Honest mistakes from referees are inevitable, and perhaps, just perhaps, Celtic fans are sometimes too quick to look for injustice, but the linesman at Tynecastle in 2005 and the referee/minister at Ibrox last year, to take two recent examples, push the random incompetence theory a little too far for me. The title-determining 'mistake' in 2005 defied belief, and please explain to me how the club with the otherwise best discipline record in the country could possibly justify an unheralded 9 (NINE) yellow cards in a match most of their fans felt they didn't turn up for. To put it simply, your club, in my opinion, get more of these decsisions than mine, and when the league title is close, like this season, the problem is particularly acute.
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Firstly,
I would want to add my supportive thoughts for Tommy Burns and his family. I fully expect to hear his name loudly sung on Wednesday.
Secondly, I can agree with a lot of govanrear's comments without reaching the same conclusions.
Most refereeing errors are genuine misjudgements; these will fall equally for and against all teams. Sometimes refs are influenceable, weak minded refs can be swayed by a home crowd or an intimidating captain and bloody minded refs, like Brines, can take dislikes and react against players and teams.
That still leaves space for some cheating. Football, being a low scoring game, is more open to being influenced by a cheating ref than Basketball, Rugby or Volleyball.
We can leave ourselves open to charges of paranoia by complaining of every decision that goes against us. But I know, in my heart of hearts, that we have been cheated by refs deliberately in our history.
On another day and at a less late hour, I will give my evidence. It will not include Farrygate which was anti- Fergus more than anti - Celtic ( we were collateral damage there). It does not include the 2003 season either as I think we colluded in our own disadvantages that day at Kilmarnock.
Good night for now
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Stand Up for Tommy Burns...
He is a Champion.... And a Fighter..
Paul67
Great post. Inspired eh?
Your right we should not be suprised by the teams tenacity. For the most part it has been a recurring theme under GS in my 'umble opinion..
Kilbowie Kelt @ 13:51
Thanks for that. Made me smile widely..
McNee's prescient wisdom.....Hilarious Timing.
Still, I have much more time for a 'stroppy little grumpy man' with Reason ...
Than one completely lacking it...
On the subject of Walters meltdown...
(It is possible to lipread his comments at the end... Not dignified at all)
Would it have happened...
If Hutton had not been the Mints collateral...
If Cousin had not had his jaw broken...
If Celtic had not continued showing their tenacity on Sunday...
Who Knows the Truth...
Still...
Methinks the Pressure is being Felt..
Roll on More Straws
PS
PJ who thinks the numbered one is back....
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Meant to add...
Paul67.... You said @ 22:36
I believe that most referees do their best to be even handed, but I also try to be even handed, but don’t always manage it.....
Very Honest words from The Editor....
Tip of the Hat Sir...
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At the risk of using up one of the remaining 12 or so posts left on this thread, (We need a late night post Paul), I am astounded by PJB's latest music link which is surprisingly good.
Great even.
How do you find these clips laddie?
Prayers and best wishes to Tommy Burns.
I really can't fathom Walter Smith's breakdown and loss of temper. Nasty Nacho's feet are both off the ground with studs showing as he lunges at the ball and/or the player depending on the colour of your tinted specs.
Why Smith would snap at that decision is beyond comprehension.
Perhaps the sexygenarian took his viagra instead of his proxac at half time?
'GG reducing the availability of 200 comments by 1.
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GG:
When the count reaches and passes 200 you can still post and read others post by clicking
“Post a Comment”
Then scroll right down to the ‘Leave a Comment” portal.
To the right of this portal will be a post counter 1 0 200 0f *** Newer>Newest
Click on the Newest and although you won’t be able to see the CQN ‘front page’ you will still be able follow other posters contributions.
The décor sucks though.
Apologies if you were already aware of this.
GovanRear:
I too, would like to say ‘hello’, only once though. I too, hope you continue to post in the same standard of that which you have introduced yourself.
Well argued, but as will no doubt be the case from this day forth, on most issues we’ll probably beg to differ. Still it was good to read your contribution.
Don't forget - anybody looking for a holiday destination around May 31st - Perth Celtic Supporters Convention.
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Cheers 'GG Glad you liked it...
In the words of Elvis...
'Ah just stumbled across it...'
Your Tunes were top notch at the weekend ...
I could not post...
Wee PJ had banjoed the space bar....
I think he wants me to be like Bigjoe....
Think you might be right about Walter...
He was Pemanently Raging on Sunday......
G'Night Y'All...
And a special welcome to GovanRearGuardAction
:0)
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Johnnyquest aka "Goldenstones"
Let's see how good your memory is.
8 posts left.
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Tommy Twists Tommy Turns
Tommy Burns.
Tommy you have beaten many adversarys, you will win this one too.
God Bless.
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Govenrear
Just compare the hate stories and calls for lengthy bans when Neil Lennon pushed the Ref at the end of an old firm game and the non coverage of the forth official being pushed by Uncle Walter.
On Radio Clyde as predicted they came out with the old "we didn't see it or hear about it" comment, from people who are paid to watch and discuss Football.
As someone once said
"Just Because I'm Paranoid Doesn't Mean They're Not Out to Get Me!"
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TTT 23.08
No offence taken mate; very rarely does a poor innocent from Blantyre venture into the blue / amber haven of ML1..
unless to go to the Tavern of course.
Brother is also a taxi driver so it could be friends and family discount....
On the subject of TTT(thommy twists and turns) said a wee prayer for hima and all who are suffering from illness last night and this morning......
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Morning All, This little piece of info is in most of the redtops this morning, albeit hidden away at the end of longer articles.......Novo's tackles parked furious scenes and led to Rangers boss Smith being sent to the stand.
He faces a two-game ban which will begin when Celtic visit Ibrox for a crunch Old Firm showdown on March 29.
Smith, who erupted in anger and accused Hibs boss Mixu Paatelainen of trying to get his players into trouble with the referee, won't contest theban.
mac
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Han solo,nope,too many years of guiness abuse has robbed me of any memory of that nickname,if that is what it is,you will have to provide me with an easier clue than that.
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johnnyguest
I posted the WHY CElTIC after we discussed it a couple of weeks ago not sure if you got it or not?
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maccargo
I find its strange that they are only talking about a two match ban for Uncle Walter, when WGS initially got a four match ban when he got verbally attacked by an Aberdeen Steward. Seems to me they are trying to influence the SFA committee.
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Well I’m glad I never held my breath, because the barrage of scorn that I was expecting to be directed against that finger pointing, invective spraying purveyor of all things dignified, ‘oor Wattie’ did in fact… fail to materialise. Why don’t I feel cheated or disappointed on that score?
The press, with omission, insinuation, and innuendo, have us all now believing Mixu Paatelenien is the Devil incarnate. It was his entire fault. He has no damn right to protect his own player and no damn right hide in his own technical area.
This really is a test of how impartially fair - the powers that be - actually are.
I’m not going to let apathy, and lethargy, get in the way of my paranoia. I’ve become partial to the medication.
I am most, most, interested to see what punishment such thuggish behaviour will attract. If any.
