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I’m not going to talk about people who think they are real referees. Not this day anyway.
I didn’t realise Rangers had won a diddy cup yesterday. On my kids life I never realised until I opened my e-mail this morning and read a ditty from a fellow CQNer.
He asked if my ‘doIgiveatosso-meter’ gave a flicker. Good to see my ‘doIgiveatosso-meter’ is in calibration with his. It did not register a flicker. Not even a nano-flicker. Nada; nought; Zilch. Not even an ennie, weenie, itsy bitsy, almost nearly a flicker – flicker. Not a jot, it was not vexed in the slightest. It had the resting pulse rate of an elite electronic tosso-meter.
My ‘doIgiveatosso-meter’ is a barometer of my state of being. When it’s dormant I am quietly content and I get on with my life in nonchalant anticipation of good times to come. It gives me direction in my day and it is never, ever, wrong. I can supply a patented copy of these meters to any wavering hearts that need a wee, non-toxic, emotional crutch to get them through the day. Just post up a wee throw away address and I’ll wing one over as soon as I can.
Every time I get a derogatory gloating Trogg e-mail me, I reply with a snap shot of my ‘fully working’ meter and the delinquent usually goes away. If they persist… I send them two… and so on, and so on. They get tired before I do.
Any way - Smashin Milk Bottle, like you, I don’t give a toss either. Not a merry jot and that’s what my meter says too.
To much more important things, TinyTim, just to put things into a little perspective, you said that Rangers were the bookies favourite to win the league. Well I can’t argue with that, because they undoubtedly are.
That makes us the underdogs then. And I’d rather be the underdog every single year, every single game. Because if nothing else, the bookies give me better odds on my team and when I bet I never bet against Celtic. And there is nothing makes me happier than when some dick thinks he is of the master race and somehow better than me. Sort of make me want to get right up and in his face. I’m sure you’re made of the same stuff as me TinyTim and I’m sure if anybody tried to belittle you, you too would stand your ground. And the more they stuck it to you – the more you’d fight back. Somehow you’d get even.
That’s all I’d expect from our players too. Let others beat their gums, come the day, we’ll give it our best shot and if we’re not good enough then we’re not good enough.
Until that day… I support the champions; and I expect to be supporting the same - next season too.
Most people are of the opinion that the three remaining Celtic v Rangers games will decide the championship. (I would’ve thought there are at least three other teams who just might be offended by that)
Some might not bet their houses on Celtic taking seven points from the nine – but let me ask you this – how much is anybody prepared to bet - they don’t?
Are you really that sure we ain’t going to do it; or do you just want to clock up a few replies to your posts? (Not you TinyTim)
Repetitive Green Rhetoric:
I’m still a standing supporter who’d never ever, ever, come hell or high water, or all the forces of darkness, the plague, the flood or Murray Mint with a stacked brown envelope, not as long as my good god grants me a breath of air, in short never, would I ever, throw in my so much as my manky dogs towel - against them - or anybody else for that matter.
That flag is mine, is yours, is ours, is Celtics; some body else wants it, then they are going to have to take it, because this sad eternal dick of a Celtic Supporter, who loves a good fight, as long as there is no bad language, booting in the goolies or poking the eyes, pulling hair or breaking my nails, ain’t gonna be the one to hand it to them.
For the love of your club(if not yourselves) ya whooshes, if you don’t want to be hardcore, if the tension is beyond your heart, if your pain threshold is not equal to your ambitions, at least sharpen you finger nails and have your man bags weighted and ready to swing. Works better if you keep your eyes open too and look in the general direction of your foe. Right bohemian and continental those man bag things aren’t they, don’t think they’ve yet been fitted with a reverse gear though. And if you’re not even prepared to swing your bag, at least throw your mascara and lipstick and any other girlie things you might just happen to have in there, at them; God knows they’ll put them all to good use.
And if you can’t even do that, in your vaunted capacity of a Celtic Supporter, well I don’t know, get your mammies apron, rob the weane of his dummie, comfort yourself under the bed or… or… or something like that. Or go get your towel and sling it to the wind. But once it’s gone, it’s gone and lost forever – just like your bottle.
No bottle… no prizes.
Oh!!! and my ‘doIgiveatosso-meter’ isn’t really called a ‘doIgiveatosso-meter’ it’s actually call ‘DoIgivea***Ko-meter’ but I had to stay within the confines of decency.
Just like The Forces of Darkness do… every time they come out to scare us. (Hopefully with your make-up on)
Alvin and the Chipmunks-you had a bad day
Oh! And underdogs do win now and again.
Celtic Dreamin
Happy St. Patrick’s Day to all who celebrate the day.
I do.
I have.
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Happy Paddy's Day to all my friends in Celtic.
Paul, as I understand things the spl has to agree to any venue change for a match. They were reported to be meeting yesterday - but there is nothing on the spl web site to even indicate that a meeting took place, let alone what the outcome was.
This farce is getting more, well farcical, as time goes on!
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Happy St Patricks day to one and all.
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Great St Patrick’s Day memories:
John Hughes, Ibrox, 89 mins.
Gordon J, yes, there is no reason why decisions could not have been announced yesterday.
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For those with an interest St Patrick's day was actually moved to Saturday 15 March this year due to a clash with another religious day.
So a belated Happy St Patrick's day to those who care!
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Paul67,
Do you not think we'll play Gretna then the administrator will pull the plug on them......one last pay day for them/him?
Are they any guarantees that Gretna will finish the season??
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Kingoh
It wasn't a clash with another religious day. It was because this is now Holy Week.
The last time St Ptrick's day fell during Holy Week was 1916, I think, and not again until 2060.
If you know your history!
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blindl...
Thanks for clearing that up. I kept things simple so as not to turn the blog into a religious debating forum.
Trust me,I am well aware of the reason!
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Could one of the problems with re-arranging the Gretna fixture be the host club being paid for hosting the fixture ? They'd probably demand the money up front as if they didn't receive the money up front they'd just be treated like every other creditor ? Gretna don't have the money to pay up front ?
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Looks like no one told the 100,000+ who will be gathering on 5th avenue in NYC that St Patrick's Day was moved!
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Looking forward to next week even more now after getting an offer of tickets through the post for Ibrox, first time for over 7 years!
Hopefully a better result than that day when we got pumped 5-1.
It's led to right old domestic though. It's me and my wee bhoy who have been going to the away games in order to get the offer, but now Mrs Bananas wants to go as 'that's no game for a 6 year old'. I know it's a bit more boisterous but he did earn the right to go. Looking for a bit of advice from you guys as to who is in the right. Much appreciated!
The fact that we don't have a venue yet for Sundays game is a joke, it reminds me of amateur football where if you know your pitch is off you scramble about trying to get any pitch you can. The fact this situation is taking place in our top league is an absolute embarrassment.
I am also in a quandry as to whether to buy tickets for this game or not. I am yet to be convinced, and so it seems is the Gretna manager, that they will survive through to the seasons end in any case. Now the media are putting the campaign across that as long as they get to the split then that's OK. no, Im sorry it's not. If a team cannot fulfill all their fixtures then what is the point? the same writers showing their concern for Gretna would have been the very same guys laughing behind their typewriter at our demise in 94.
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porridgeandbananas
A ticket every seven years ! .. its gotta be yur laddie ... next time it will be him not wanting to go with you !!
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Gerry, you have to consider that as a possibility.
Porridgeand, I am on your boy’s side. Teach him fairness and he will grow up knowing it.
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Can anyone confirm that today's reserve game is still on.
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Stoir Mha Chroi @11:42
Hi Stoir Mha Chroi. I agree strongly with most of what you say, with one diddy wee exception. I would be very happy for us to win this 'diddy cup'; not competing in the final of it is a sore one to take for me, but I think it is churlish to seek to diminish its value because Rangers won it and we didn't. Rangers Fans will have celebrated winning this 'diddy cup' with gusto this weekend, and fair play and congratulations to them. Somehow I don't think we would have celebrated a win in this competition with any less enthusiasm, 'diddy Cup' or not.
Having said this, I too want us, the fans/supporters, and the team to fight for the league tooth and nail, and if we win, as I still expect, then I shall certainly celebrate in style. If we lose then I shall say "well done!" I am Celtic-mad and to my mind this includes sportsmanship, good-manners and rising above the level of others, not being dragged down to theirs...
Yours in Celtic,
Jim.
KeepTheFaithCSC
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Just heard that Old Firm game from 2nd January is now 16th April
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Paul,
wheres the elsewhere you are talking about.
Livingston or Celtic Park?
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Jim the Tim:
I do not seek to belittle the relevance of the League Cup, what I refer too (as do many others) as the diddy cup, not because Rangers won it. (did they do so fairly) but because in this day and age it is as meaningless as the Glasgow Cup. In my eyes it has no relevance.
It is partly to blame for the fixture balls up that we are all enduring today.
I know many others think it a trophy of some significance… I don’t. The sooner it is gone the better as far as I am concerned. It cannot happen quickly enough.
But if others see value in that competition that is their prerogative, but it is not generally reflected in the attendance figures other than the final; which leads me to believe, there are a lot of diddy cup glory hunters out there.
Not that I’m saying you are one of them, but I personally, have no interest in the competition at all. None. I wouldn’t go as far as to say I am happy, if and when, we get knocked out; however I’d rather we did not play our first team in that competition at any stage.
Final or not. I’d do an Arsenal, play the boys.
To be derogatory of a competition it must first of all have meaning. In my eyes the diddy cup has none.
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One could be forgiven for thinking that Scottish football was being run by the Three Stooges.
"The SPL Stooges in: Scheduling Shenanigans!"
Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
Meanwhile, in the shadow of Mount Doom, Chick "Gollum" Young can hardly contain itself. It wants the Precious, yessss. The Big Eck Dignity Cup will only make the Orcs hungrier for a real trophy.
They Shall Not Pass CSC.
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Stoir Mha Chroi @12:47
Hi Stoir Mha Chroi. Thanks for that. I know what you mean regarding the relevance of this cup, but I think of it this way: In 1967 Celtic won EVERY competition they entered, including the Glasgow Cup (and with the exception of the World Club Championship). To my mind, if we are in it, then let's be IN IT TO WIN IT! This Cup DOES have value to me because we have entered into it, but I agree that its relevance is a lot less than the other competitions. I am not a 'Diddy Cup Glory Hunter' (I know you weren't necessarily saying I was), but I do believe in giving it 100% in everything I do, and I don't expect my team to do anything less. As for priorities though I agree that there is a case for focussing on the things that really matter. Your suggestion that our reserves and younger lads would get something out of being used more in this competion has merit and would help in regards to bringing them on for bigger and better things.
Yours in Celtic,
Jim.
P.S. A Happy St. Patrick's day to everyone!
P.P.S. What does 'Stoir Mha Chroi' mean?
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the movers and shakers in the spl, and the ones who should be listened to regarding the farcical way this season has developed are as follows in no particular order
celtic, rangers, setanta, sponsors, other media partners and supporters
it's time to get the tackety boots on and seriously revamp this product....rule #1 should be no involvement of lex gold....we need a new innovative , revolutionary product....if we don't get it we will see the little sponsorship money we currently get disappear , we will see attendances tumble...celtic are potentially the biggest losers in that scenario and we will see our media exposure fall to unibond league levels....
we need a bigger league with more teams...and i don't mean teams like gretna....i mean dundee, st johnstone, dunfermline,partick thistle and morton...teams with a decent level of core support and a history in the game ....we should seriously consider the option of inviting English clubs of decent size who are unlikely to ever make the premiership into our league....
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Paul,
I tried to post this on the previous article but it didn't appear.
Paul67,
This article made it into today's google alert for the term Glasgow Celtic.
Good work, the club's g.o.d. may have taken a wobble but CQN's is well on course.
Therags...
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Jim the Tim:
I just think that like the Glasgow Cup, that cup is a DoDo.
I too was there at ever single home and away game in all competitions, bar Europe (away games).
Back then there was meaning, but to me, in this day and age, nothing can get in the way of the pursuit of the big one… The League. It is the ‘chalice’.
Stoir Mha Chroi… prefix it with Celtic and you have ‘My Hearts Treasure”. After my family of course.
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So this is where everyone is lurking.
I thought a mighty wind had come along and blown you all away.
Porridgeandbananas- tell Mrs Porridge[ Goldilocks?] that taking the Bhoy to the 90 minute hate will be good practise for going to Brunton next year to see Carlisle v Newcastle in the Championship.
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According to the BBC, the spl is meeting today to discuss fixtures, etc.
Obviously they were all a bit busy yesterday.
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I've been thinking about the lack of coverage in the 'English' press regarding the debacle that this season and the spl has become.
If this were La Liga, Seria A then they would be salavating over the chaos. They loved the Seria A crisis that saw points docked, titles removed and teams being relegated.
Is it because this involves the core of the league and those who run it and not individuals and teams. Or do they just think its a tinpot league and nobody cares anyway.
Surely those who fill in a pool coupon care, those who go to the bookies care.
Actually when I think about it they don't even care about any team outside the 'top four/five' in the Premiership
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The League Cup is only useful when, like Rangers, you haven't won a trophy in almost 3 years. The other side of the coin is when you are chasing a treble. It means nothing on it's own so hopefully we can make yesterday a false dawn. I fear that won't be the case. That was where my dissapointment lay when we lost to Hearts in that we gave them momentum. Ah well, we've been doing that for a year now anyways.
Hail Glorious Saint Patrick!
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Stoir Mha Chroi @13:13
Hi Stoir Mha Chroi! :-) Thanks for the explanation. I am glad that despite being Celtic-Mad, like me you have got your priorities right! (Family first!)
Yours in Celtic,
Jim.
Celticfor3+InARowCSC
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How much would it cost Gretna to stage a game at Celtic Park? Stewards, Police, presumably some sort of rental to cover utilitiies costs(although Celtic may waive that).
On Easter Sunday you might not even get 10,000 since it's not on the season ticket and there's a £15 game tomorrow night. At what point is it break even on a much smaller ground with less costs?
I don't think it's a shoey-in decision for the administrator.....
......unless some well known Celtic site started advertising it as, say, the 'goal difference game' and people started to believe a hail of goals would pour and bombarded Gretna looking for tickets!
'mon the goal difference game!
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Stoir Mha 11:42 Chroi
Any chance you could give the pre-match and half-time team-talks from now till the end of the season? ;)
And please send me one of your doIgiveatosso-meters, wrapped in a towel preferrably, should be able to cover all bases with that.
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17/03/08 12:41, Ayrtic67 said…
that could very well be the day the title is won or lost!!!
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Tell you something, never mind where these games are going to be played, try getting a damn ticket for them.I just spent 48 minutes on the ticketline to be told I needed to be put through to Ticketmaster.12 minutes later they spend FOURTEEN minutes trying to get me TWO tickets together for the game tomorrow night, THEN inform me the "free" ticket is actually 1p and there is a booking fee of £2.80. Whats that all about?? I, like you lot, already pay my season book, travel 200 miles each week to follow the team then get screwed this way? Forget the amounts, its the DIFFICULTY in getting a ticket......and it does NOT matter what game its for. If its a BIG game, I can't get one ( never ever ONCE been succesful in one of their ballots) and if its a WEE one it takes an hour to book THEN you pay a booking fee on top. I am bloody fuming.
TwoTimsNotTravellingFrom StranraerThisWeekForEitherBloodyGaneCSC
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On Rangers success yesterday, I am not particularly concerned that Rangers won the Scottish League Cup, their first trophy for 3 years. What does however concern me was the manner in which they won it.
They have a never-say-die attitude which sees them fight (quite literally sometimes) for every scrap, and an intimidatory physical approach, driven by a hunger to get to every ball first, and to bully their opponents into submission. It is reminiscent of the Celtic team containing Sutton, Hartson, Thompson, Lennon & Larsson... and it worries me that the current Celtic team is ill equipped to cope with that aproach when we finally face our three title deciders.
And on the question of automatic qualification for the Champions League group stages (assuming we can ensure that guile, panache & artistry can prevail over brute force), we do indeed, as has been pointed out before, need this season's eventual winners to have already qualified for next season's group stage via their league position. Note that the top two teams in England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France & Portugal will go straight into the CL group stage.
The CL SF draw is as follows:
ARSENAL or Liverpool v Fenerbahce or Chelsea
ROMA or MAN UTD v Schalke or BARCELONA
Those in BOLD UPPER CASE are currently in position to qualify for the group stage from their national league, while those in bold lower case are hovering there or thereabouts.
For Celtic to qualify directly for the group stage (after we win the SPL?!), it would be best to see the CL Final contested by two teams who are already set to qualify for next season's group stage regardless of the outcome of this season's competition.
So, looking at the draw above, we would want:
1. Arsenal to beat Liverpool and Chelsea to beat Fenerbahce... and the winner of that SF to also secure (at least) 2nd in the EPL, with the loser finishing 3rd in the EPL, so Man Utd get the other top two spot.
2. Barcelona to beat Schalke and to hold their nerve (and at least 2nd place) in La Liga, and the winner of Roma v Man Utd to successfully stay in the top two of their national league.
Thus we could end up with Arsenal (2nd in EPL) v Man Utd (1st in EPL) in the CL Final, or preferably Barcelona (2nd in La Liga) v Roma (2nd in Serie A)... and thus see our place in next year's group stages secured before the CL Final is even played.
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Neverbeten @13:32
Except at spelling perhaps? ... :-)
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Serutiku
Just right click and copy to wherever, it is my standard reply to junk mail.
Warning ‘Language” will be encountered.
Do I Give a…… Meter
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Pastyface- that's true- they really don't care- it's the Premiership or nothing. Although the BBC also care about the FACup, as they can show it live. The FACup ,is sponsored be E.On, as apparently is excellent CQNer Pablophanque.
Barcabhoy posted earlier about inviting in'English clubs that have no chance of getting to the Premiership' With 3 clubs being promoted to the EPL every year very few 'senior'clubs are going to concede they have no chance of promotion. Getting into the EPL is not as difficult as staying there.
Having watched the footage of the game yesterday and seeing the penalty not being given I felt like phoning the BBC and saying 'See - that's why we're paranoid!'
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Thanks guys, I will be ready for her when she comes in now! Paul, a great line, I'll be using that one later if you don't mind!
DBBIA - That game would be tasty!
Stoir Mha Chroi, great stuff mate. My confidence took a knock last wednesday but I still firmly beleive we will do it. My towel will not be getting thrown in at any time, not when it comes to them! That's not to say I don't see merits in tinytim and Kojos arguments, I'll just keep the faith until such times it's won or lost.
Ayrtic - Is that date confirmed? If so we would in all probability be playing them at Celtic park twice in 3 days as they are likely to schedule the last game for the first week of the split which is the 19th. Bring it on!
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Porridgeandbananas
You need to sit MrsP down and give her a good talking to!
The lads gets the ticket. Mrs P can do the smoothin' and listen on the radio!!
Don't tell her I said FFS!
Portadown53.
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Jim- cut him some slack. There are easier places in the World to support the Hoops than Stranraer.
Baghdad might be one, or Grozny.
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BigChipSuk 13:37…
"On Rangers success yesterday, I am not particularly concerned that Rangers won the Scottish League Cup, their first trophy for 3 years. What does however concern me was the manner in which they won it.
They have a never-say-die attitude which sees them fight (quite literally sometimes) for every scrap, and an intimidatory physical approach, driven by a hunger to get to every ball first, and to bully their opponents into submission."
Conversely, if I was a Rangers fan I'd be very concerned about that level of performance yesterday, second best for most of it and struggled to match DUtd, so I ain't bovvered does this look bovvered?!
Feel more confident about the league now than I did earlier in week and was pretty confident even then.
It's oors and that's that - end of - case closed. Next!
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Yesterday and today I’ve read a lot of commentary from the game, followed by a lot of protests that the league cup isn’t worth winning. If I was a Rangers fan I’d definitely be suggesting there’s more than a touch of “methinks the lady doth protest too much”.
You could have taken a leaf out of Paul’s book, while extra time was being played in the final, he posted a thread about the important ramifications of possible structural damage at Celtic Park. Shame on you for hijacking such an important discussion with news of some nothing game involving two teams who don’t have “Celtic” in their name.
Now, who thinks Iceland will get no points in the Eurovision this year?
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Sonsof- I took a leaf out of Paul's book.
During extra time I went into the shed and chitted my spuds.
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I take heart rather than fear from the manner of Ranger's victory yesterday.
No doubt they have a winning touch about them at the moment but it wasn't through their endeavour. If it wasn't for Mark Kerr passing the ball to Boyd in front of the goal with only a few minutes remaining they would have lost the final. They had some fortune during the penalty shoot out also: while McGreagor did well in goals, missing two of the five penalties and still winning is quite fortunate itself.
They were also very lucky against Bremen. It's not everyday a goalie will gift them two goals from nothing and in the second leg was all Bremen, it's amazing how they didn't conceed far more.
It's not all fortune obviously, there is talent there and they do play with heart but I really don't think they are a team which will be able keep winning if they suffer some bad luck. Whether their fortune will get them over the finish line or not is another matter, it probably will.
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SonsOfErin, who the heck is Lady Doth?
...And are Rangers fans really capable of methinking?
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Paul
I agree with your comments.
It will be interested to see what happens as the week progresses . Clearly, the game against Gretna is important for both the appointed administrator and also the great leaders of our game at the SPL. The administrator will be desperate for the gate receipts and spin off revenue from the TV, corporate and general food etc sold at the match. The SPL will clearly be desperate to get another Celtic match with Gretna on the board in order to avoid the difficult decision of reducing the current league leaders tally by three points. I will reserve comment on the likelihood of Gretna fulfilling their remaining league fixtures this season but clearly, a fixture against Celtic is a cash cow for the administrator and a headache avoided for the SPL. I am sure if it was Inverness at home tomorrow night, a different course of events may be about to unfold. The fate of Gretna next Monday may not be so high on the agenda.
I do have a couple of queries concerning Sunday's game. Do we know the current take up of the Celtic allocation and to what tune we are swelling the Gretna coffers? Also should the fixture be move as it appears it will, do we as consumers have the ability to seek a refund if the venue is changed. It would clearly not be ideal for Gretna if the Celtic support decided to take the collective decision to boycott this particular match. I fear that as with most tickets for events, these are on a non refundable basis or at the sellers discretion. The event was however publicised to go ahead at Fir Park in Motherwell.
Not an ideal situation to have the game cancelled I know, but it may provide a very interesting situation if the SPL had a tough decision to make. Surely the mileage and enjoyment of seeing how they wriggle out of deducting points from Rangers is worth the hassle given that Gretna's fate does look to be decided.
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The English media really don't care about our silly little league (as they see it).
And on Ticketmaster or Ticketb****rd as us rock fans know it? They charge for everything.
I recently booked some shows in the US for a forthcoming trip. They charge a bigger fee for "will call" than for sending to a US address. That's a fee for NOT sending you the ticket!
As you would expect, I tried to give a friend's address. But a US address and a UK credit card wouldn't fit the computer system. So charges it is.
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You can get a good insight into the psyche of the Rangers team by looking at the CIS Cup Final pix, in particular pictures 5, 14 & 25. How Ferguson didn't see red for no.14 I don't know! And when the management duo were asked how they felt about their team's triumph, they responded as only they could (no.25)... "Heil! Heil!"
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Re Gretna.
Where are the guidelines from the "Fans' Chiefs", who usually are called upon to pontificate on matters Celtic?
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Hoopsplayers in Scotland squad to face Croatia on Mar 26th include:
Mcmanus, Caldwell, Brown, Hartley and Robson
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I was a bit surprised to read the details of Tommy Burns´s ongoing illness.
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/38206/Tommy-to-US-in-bid-to-beat-cancer
Tommy my advise to you is get CH67, rest up , take it easy and do what the docs say.
A third title in a row will be all the pick you up that you need.
Good luck with the treatment Tommy. We here in Germany are all thinking of you and your family.
A few questions ?
Will the cancellation of the Motherwell game affect any suspensions for the up and coming Rangers game at the end of the month ?
Tomorrows cup tie against Aberdeen. Is anyone serving a suspension ?
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St Gris, Celtic Park.
Theragswe, is that right? Interesting, thanks.
BlantyreKev, I have held off referring to goal difference but the thought did cross my mind.
Porridgeand, go for it.
SonsOfErin, was there a game on yesterday? Not in my house.
Country Bhoy, I believe a considerable portion of the Celtic allocation has been distributed. The T&Cs of a ticket sale usually do not allow for a refund if the date or venue is changed.
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Also in the squad are Hoopslegends Marshall,Pearson, Miller and Maloney.
Thom- or even the good Doctor. When he was in the Cabinet you couldn't shut him up.
Since he got his 'dream job' he's said very little, about anything.
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At 17/03/08 13:39, Jim the Tim said…
Neverbeten @13:32
Except at spelling perhaps? ... :-)
You have left me confused sir. Please explain.
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Kojo - thanks for reply on Saturday (17:11). Not been on the blog since then - studiously avoided it yesterday in case it shook my 'faith'!! I firmly believe that we will be jumping about like said gorilla come May - but I'll keep it to myself for now! KTF. :-)
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Couple of posters are making some valid points here about the potential for Gretna to see this game through, take the money and then fold.
It is not Celtic's responsibility to look after Gretna's creditors but it is the clubs responsibility to make sure its supporters are not ripped off.
Regardless of how few or how many of us go to the game on Sunday, wherever it is finally played, to make payments for tickets and all the associated travel costs and then find it was for nothing would be shocking.
This is not only about Celtic but all the other clubs who are due to play Gretna. These supporters could be similarly compromised.
Surely the SPL must now get a statement from the administrators as to what sort of revenue is required to continue trading and then ask the all important question will they raise sufficient revenue to meet those demands and at the same time provide some money to creditors.
Surely someone within the heirarchy needs to assess that point and make sure Gretna understand that taking tens of thousands of Scottish football supporters (Celtic, Hibs, Hearts and many others) to the proverbial cleaners is not an option.
The more you look at this and read some of the comments of fellow posters the more you relise what an almighty mess it is.
WG ran an impressive SACK DUFFIELD campaign earlier this year here on CQN maybe we need a SACK GOLD & BLAIR one for the hapless SPL duo.
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Celtic_first from last thread - apologies - I didn't see your question on the thread - I only noticed it in the post a comment window. Problems with Blogger?
Anyway - proof? Being an uncle tom or an uncle tim is a subjective term. If you are looking for proof I would say here is a guy who once supported Celtic; a guy whose prominence as a referee has done no harm to his legal practice; a guy who routinely chickens out of decisions against the FOD ; denied Lennon a stonewaller while standing less than ten yards away, and gave a penalty against Lambert because he had the nerve to get his teeth knocked out by Albertz' knee.
Bottom line - he is happy enough just being invited to the party and doesn't want to rock the establishment boat.
In otherwords he is an Uncle Tim just the same as Walker, Nicholas and Provan.
Give me Bertie Auld, Alan Brazil and Dominic Diamond any day. These three would rather DIE than say a bad word about Celtic on air.
Hail Hail
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Dontbrak...
I was referring to the fact that this is an issue directly concerning supporters, some of whom would be members of the various associations.
In this instance it would be more relevant if they had an opinion or advice to offer their members, rather than a club statement.
I had thought that open season on JR had passed, except for the upside down banners boys.
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Neverbeten @14:36
Hi neverbeten. My post was nothing more than a gentle jibe at your blogger name; and wasn't meant to cause offence, although it may have been a little hasty and ill-considered. If I did cause offence, then I apologise sincerely.
I had assumed it was meant to be 'Neverbeaten'; but thought this might give you the opportunity to explain otherwise? Perhaps it is an obscure reference to the German cult of the 3 virgins, or something even more obscure, or perhaps you just had some trouble with Blogger? Who knows; only you have the answer.
Yours in Celtic.
Jim.
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Ah, now I get ye Jim!! No my learned friend, it is spelt 100% correctly and reminds me every day of one of the haapiest days in my life. Surprised you ain't caught on but suffice to say it really will never be TEN !!!
Now you with me ( smiley face thing!!!)
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Thom- I was one of those who expressed reservations about JR'S appointment.
Clearly, as with any other appointment we've got to get behind the Bhoy in the hot seat but having been such a voluble politician he's gone very,very quiet.
He might be keeping his powder dry for the next 'crisis', like the roof blowing off;~@
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FYI, the reserves are 4-1 up at half time against the Baddies at The Shyberry Excelsior New Broomfield ML6 Park.
vclxi
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Dontbrat...
Fair dos, but I can't help being irked when I see quotes attributed to "fans' chief" or "fans supremo" or some such guff, everytime the media want some padding for an anti Celtic story.
These lads never seem to fail when asked for a quote.
Now we have a situation where many fans are in a quandary whether to support our team, without supporting an administrator and paying good money for a game that may be retrospectively declared null and void.
For once, a comment on something that directly impacts on their members, may be helpful.
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NeverBeTEN @15:02
NEVER Be TEN! BRILLIANT!!! That brought a huge smile to my face. :-) The penny has now dropped; and landed with a thud on my big toe!
But tell me; why do you think we'll never get ten? Are you not being a tad pessimistic?
Yours in Celtic,
Jim.
EatingHumblePieCSC
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For what its worth
We should boycott Gretna games until/unless there is a long term guarantee that they will play out all remaining games. Otherwise we cannot be sure that they are not just getting alast pay out from us before they close the door.
Porridge Mrs P gets the ticket becuase she earns the right to it for her own work and the job of looking after the boy etc
Also you know inside your heart that that is no place for a child so young. Its a horrible experience that no chld should get to see.
Hail hail and we'll still win the league
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There are people here discussing the 2 old firm games at CP and how close they’ll be.
I think its an absolute certainty that these 2 games will be 5 days apart because any player that we have banned will probably be banned for the 2nd game as well. At this time of year banned players don’t have 1 game bans – they are more than likely to be 3 game bans for consecutive offences.
That’s why I think we will be without Aiden and the 2 Scotts for the hun games because bans are effective 2 weeks after the threshold is broken so take a look at who we have in the next 3 league games and that’ll give you an indication of the intensity involved.
The discipline in our most vocal players ie Aiden, Broony and Skippy will need to have a lid kept on coz if any of these 3 players mouth off (especially Aiden) then they are out BOTH huns games.
I have sympathy for Aiden coz he gets clattered all day long but Skippy should shut up – just because he cant hold a tight line after looking along it - then its not the refs or linesmans fault. Shut it skippy and learn from your mistakes.
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Jim, NOW you have ME BEATEN.
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NeverBeTen @15:51
:-)
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4-1 full time in the Reserve game.
2 for Hutchinson, 1 each for Deek and Killen.
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Well done Hutchinson, that's one way to appeal to the Celtic fans. Now you only need to break into the first team and do it against the bigger orcs. :-)
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win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win. Goals against 6.
I'd like to be as happy clappy as the neversaydie posters, but in order to win the way out of the situation there needs to be enough points in your own hand to do so. We're close to a point where Rankers won't need to win it off us, merely see out there other games.
There is also a strong predictor of Rankers are c**p and will fall shortly allowing us to catch up. The facts don't tell it that way. 11 wins since xmas and only 6 goals lost in that time suggests they are not stumbling.
At present derby wins for us at home and a win for them at home puts us level on points with a game in hand for them. Currently we need to win both our games and get a result at Ipox just to get in there. If we have another stumble (which we've been doing) then we will need to win all three games, which is a tall ask.
Scrubbing Grenta games takes 3 points off them but also gives another game in hand so no great advantage.
I can agree that their 4-5-1 anti-football is not attractive, but it is resulting in wins with little conceded.
They seem to have developed a habit of scoring in the first 10 minutes rather than our last 10 minute trick.
I am essentially less confident than some of you because there is a real danger we'll need to rely on another team soon and that's not a strategy that fills me with confidence.
I am as desperate as any to get that 3-in-a-row but the current facts show us slipping slowly away and getting to a point where they can afford to lose to us with impugnity.
bonapartewaterloo csc
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Just watched Friday's night Daily Huddle and heard Strachan saying that he won't ask the players to try harder.
He says that they tried hard enough and it was the finishing that was the problem.
While he has a point in identifying the main problem I cannot believe he can say that he won't ask them to try harder.
You must always ask them to try harder and there is still plenty of room for improvement in their efforts. Even if there wasn't you would ask for more so at least you can maintain the current level.
To say everything is fine is being complacent and the reason Strachan is not a top manager.
tonybhoy
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Hail Hail Happy St Patrick Day to the HappyClappers, Mineshafters,Ye of Little Faith and Towel Throwers of the CQN.
I see Bhoys Reserves stuffed the Huns Reseves 4-1 today.
CELTIC…4
(Riordan 15, Hutchinson 25, 26, Killen 40)
RANGERS…1
(Furrypalmsman 28)
The TerryTowel Throwing Talibans of the CQN don't you think you throwing in the Towel too soon, Personally I wouldn't never throw it in till it is mathematical impossible.
Can Hutchinson be the new Hunskelper that we are crying out for.
I see the Holy Goalie was at yesterday's CIS Cup in the utd end ( I hate to think what would happen if he was thrown into the Hun's end). He was there to support his mate Zaluska. What a legend he is. Time to make him Captain even if it is just for the remaining huns games.
Keep the Faith
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Just back from this afternoon's game.
Hutchison was impressive and on this outing looks a better bet than Killen as a fourth striker.
Koki showed some great skill at times but looks like he may have to join Naka at the gym to beef himself up a bit. Japanese entourage in attendance to watch him today!
I am not a big fan of Elvis but he strolled through today's match and guided the young players round about him so credit for that.
The manager and his assitant were in attendance today as well.
Riordan played well but looked a player who believes his chance of playing regularly has gone.
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tonybhoy
Agreed - Strachan must go.
You and guys like Tinytim have convinced me with your arguments.
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Kingoh
Does Hutchinson got the potential to be a Hunskelper and how did Cuthbert play?
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Long time lurker who needs some help from one you 'aul hands. My friend Alan Mcloughlin (yes, he of Windsor Park fame) has kindly given me a Celtic shirt which he obtained after the Mick McCarthy testimonial against the Republic at Lansdowne Road in 1996. It is number 10, but he cannot remember the player he got the shirt from. It's XL so fits me nicely.
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Apart form his 2 goals Hutchison gave Webster all sorts of problems. Webster resorted to kicking him up in the air towards the end of the game(eventually resulting in a booking). Too early to say if 'hunskelper' is the phrase but potential is there.
Cuthbert did fine but was never under any great pressure. Gow virtually up front himself most of the time. Did almost sell a goal by dallying on the ball in the second half but other
