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Tommy, you are Celtic through and through. You are a gentleman and its our privilege to have you in the fold.
The Celtic family are with you.
All the very best.
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mornin all
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ooooooooooppppppppppppps i meant afternoonzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Heard Walter is swaping his Cardigan for a Hoodie.
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Time for the authorities in Scottish Football to show us what they're made of! Though i suspect the cardigan will be getting no more than a telling off! It stinks!
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The other angle from behind and across the pitch shows the first push which was much more aggressive.
Can't find it.
Very Succinct Paul.
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If Walter's only complaint was against the Hibs bench having the temerity to want the referee to protect their players against brutality, why, in the scene with Ferguson, B. does he gesticulate demonstratively towards the field of play?
I think we should be told.
Failing that, we could just make a few suggestions on CQN.
I'll go first.
He was pointing at Gatheussi trying to raise the tone of the repertoire at Ibrox by bringing back that huge hit from the 70s: Dig a hole and bury him.
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I find its strange that they are only talking about a two match ban for Uncle Walter, when WGS initially got a four match ban when he got verbally attacked by an Aberdeen Steward. Seems to me they are trying to influence the SFA committee.
Just compare the hate stories and calls for lengthy bans when Neil Lennon pushed the Ref at the end of an old firm game and the non coverage of the forth official being pushed by Uncle Walter.
On Radio Clyde as predicted they came out with the old "we didn't see it or hear about it" comment, from people who are paid to watch and discuss Football.
As someone once said
"Just Because I'm Paranoid Doesn't Mean They're Not Out to Get Me!"
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Paul67 - Class mate ! did you write that yourself or is it elsewhere on the Net?
govanrear - mccurry is a cheat, the sfa are an extenstion of rangers, wee bawy can manhandle players and not be booked (grabbing the Aberdeen lad round the throat) cousins can assualt 2 of our players hospitalising 1 with no foul given (and laugh and joke with that cheeky chappie (id love to bump into him) whilst McManus is out cold - on a stretcher - being given oxygen.
You cannot honestly, hand on heart, serisouly claim that Celtic and rangers are treated the same way in our "best small" country?
Le Guen even said that grand master flash had 80% of the press in his rectum, sorry back pocket.
I detest your club and everything that it stands for.
Please dont take this as an attack on yourself, I have numerous rangers supporting mates (all ugly right enough)I just hate your club, its directors, its management, its players, the rangers trust, the sfa, the spl, don mcvicar, stuart dougal, shug dallas, rev vindaloo, ian brines, the written press, the televised press and maggie thatcher. Ive prob missed a few others I hate, although Im sure you get the drift.
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Many happy returns, Hoopslegend Thomas, son of Grave.
You share the cake with Didier Drogba, Tejano legend Flaco Jimenez, and American psycho-prankster Johnny Knoxville. Some indeed thought there was something Jackass-like in the way TG would tear up and down the field.
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I don't want to be seen to be defending "Walter", but the SFA dish out touchline bans based on previous history. 1st sending off for a manager/coach is a 2 game ban, second 4, and 3rd is Ten games. I thnk the offences have to occur within a specific time frame. Gordon Strachan got a two game ban for his first sending off (don't remember why or the game), then he got a 4 game ban for the sending off when he spoke to Neil McCann and would have got a ten game ban for his Pittodrie sending off if his second ban had not been quashed on appeal.
Interestingly his Pittodrie sending off got him a 4 game ban which was reduced to 2 on appeal; which begs the question of how much an offence he actually committed. Presumambly the appeals commitee couldn't quash two sendings off in a row but recognised our manager didn't do too much wrong and reduced the ban accordingly.
As for the cardigan wearing ned, he will get an automatic two game ban and hopfefully the fourth official will have mentioned in his report the assualt and this SHOULD lead to a supplementary ban.. I say should because I think we all know it won't.
That's why we're Paranoid, That's why we're Paranoid
Thoughts and prayers are with one of the Celtic family this day. get well soon Tommy Burns and god bless.
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The sycophantic nonsense in the Herald today tells us exactly where the establishment are going with this.
We can all imagine the screaming headlines if Gordon had laid hands on a match official.
But it’s OK for Walter because he’s a cuddly granddad, passionate about the game. They are not even trying to hide their favouritism they are so terrified we will win 3IAR.
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Let's have a special song for Tommy Burns at Celtic Park tomorrow night. The man is a Celtic legend and will have all of our support in his most recent battle.
BTW, one of the reports reminded me that he only has 8 Scotland caps. Can anyone seriously say there is no bias against our club and its players in this country?
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Sorry, I did not realise that you had moved on...................
Tommy Burns is one of that rare breed of men who lives his Christianity in his day to day life, & gives religion a good name.
My daughter is a nurse at the Beatson Oncology Unit in Glasgow, & tells me that Tommy was a regular visitor to different people over the years. One story sticks in my memory.
Tommy was making a visit when a super efficient member of staff told him he would have to wait elsewhere while a meal was served, & that he would be told when he could return. Unfortunately, in the hustle of a busy ward, he was forgotten about. Over an hour later Tommy was discovered, still sitting patiently & uncomplaining, in the waiting room.
Such is the nature of this decent & generous natured man.
My thoughts & inadequate prayers are with him & his family at this worrying time.
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Best of luck to Tommy Burns.
Thoughts are with him and his family.
Caddizzy,he may have been out if town on business,he moves about a bit.
Glad you enjoyed yourself.
Know a few of the lads.
Didn't find the fags,and my mobile phone was half inched too,as I noticed a wee bit later.
The cheeky sod.
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Sorry about the extra D Cadizzy
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Best wishes to Tommy and Rosemary.
Govanrear,
You made some good points last night, observations that things go for you and against you in football matches. Some reasonable examples quoted where referee's and linesman's decision incorrectly went against Rangers.
Every football fan will be able to quote recent decisions which were wrongly called against his/her team. Most will be of the offside/onside nature, booking or no booking, red card or no red card, foul or no foul variety. Just as you have done.
There are a couple of things that lie outwith that normal statistical distribution for me. Certain decisions which are not split-second, not 50-50 nor 60-40 borderlines.
The first is the issue of booking players for celebrating a goal by leaving the field of play. Not a difficult thing to assess, you would think.
Kenny Miller and JVOH both received yellow cards at Inverness for leaving the field and celebrating with supporters, the latter resulting in a red for a second caution. Sebo did exactly the same thing at Easter Road and received no booking. That was last season.
This season Scott McDonald was booked for leaving the field of play after scoring at Fir Park against Gretna. He didn't go beyond the advertising boards and went nowehere near the fans. Yellow card.
Barry Ferguson did likewise at the same venue against the same opponents. No card. Similarly at Ibrox against Celtic Ferguson left the field of play and received no booking on a day when yellow cards were being thrown around like confetti.
Daniel Cousin leaves the field of play and goes into the fans to celebrate scoring against Gretna at Ibrox. No booking.
Is this a difficult law to administer? Are there ANY examples of a Celtic player going into the crowd and not being booked in Scotland?? Is it only Celtic players who get booked for this or is it only Rangers players who don't?
Two seasons, same problem.
Or is it three seasons? I still, three years later, don't know why Craig Bellamy was booked for falling to his knees at the edge of the box at Ibrox after scoring. No explanation. No offence.
Secondly, what influence does David Murray have over a free and open sports press in Scotland? Do you really believe that we have equality in reporting in this country when it comes to Celtic and Rangers?
He has important media players in his back pocket because they want to be in his back pocket. This does nothing for the game in Scotland and does nothing for the quality of journalism that results.
Influence is brought to bear by the media whether we like it or not. Recall Bobo Balde being banned after a disciplinary meeting was brought forward to look at an incident at Easter Road? No complaints over the incident but the reason cited for bring the meeting forward was the "high profile nature" of the incident.
The media influenced the football body resulting in a timely ban for Bobo. I have not seen anything of a similar nature since.
There are others which fall into the "strange" category. Jim Farry is the most well known, despite THREE internal reviews declaring no case to answer before it finally went to court. Who carried out those internal reviews and did they have a vested interest?
I'd be interested to know if there are examples you have seen where Rangers have been subjected to "strange" decisions away from the slit-second, 50-50, 60-40 type decisions. Genuine question for you.
Welcome to CQN - debate is good - I hope your tin hat is as resilient as Edward's! He has brought much debate to the site - always good to have a counter view to stimulate good debates. Or barnys.
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Gordon_J
One of the main reasons for Tommy's lack of caps was Big Jock. Tommy was quite badly treated by the big man according to his own book. From memory I think Jock had a squad of 23 preparing for Spain 82. He could only take 22 and simply read out the 22 that were going, leaving TB out. This was how he elarned he was not going, not Jock talking to him personally about it. Apparently the other squad members were quite taken aback. 8 caps may or may not be a fair total but I don't think we can play the bias card for Tommy given the era of his prime.
Good luck Tommy, a true Celt and more importantly a truly good man.
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Gordon J- Tommy played very well in season 81-82, but he decision not to take him to the WC was made by Jock Stein. The midfielders he did take included Provan, Wark, Hartford, the Beast and GStrachan.
Tommy may have got more caps if not for a certain JRobertson ,who was deservedly #1 pick as left sided midfielder. Still, he got 6 more than GConnelly, but nowhere near what he deserved.
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At what stage does the SPL step in and declare Fir Park out of bounds for this season and encourage M'well and Gretna to find suitable temporary accommodation.
This season is turning into a complete farce as far as fixture congestion is concerned and it must be a nightmare for supporter's club conveners to make plans.
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celtic_lover
I've sent you a mail to your gmail address.
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Walter Smith has worked on projecting an image of a quietly conscientious manager, a statesman-like figure. This, just like the public image that his glorious leader likes to display through journalistic toadies, is nothing more than a sham.
People often refer to THAT Walter interview with Chick Young as if it is hugely humourous. To the extent that Chick gets a verbal lashing, I suppose there is dark humour. However, the utter contrast to the image Walter publicly seeks to portray is frightening. When he lowers his guard, he is clearly no better than a ned as you correctly identify Paul.
If there is one story that accurately reflects the bias in the Scottish press, it is this one. Even if Walter mistakenly thought there was no foul (which is clearly not possible standing the view he must have had) there is no excuse, simply none whatsoever for his antics. As someone else said, so what if the Hibs bench were urging Novo to be sent off ? On one view that was a restrained reaction. To be in the opposition dugout demands vilification by the press. It has not and will not happen.
Now, just imagine WGS did exactly the same. The knotted rope would be at the ready at Park Gardens.
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The main article (above) has been edited with additional information.
Bazzabhoy, *!*! did I copy this from somewhere else on the net? Are you new?
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Thom
Absolutely. It's time that the SPL step in and declare that Motherwell and Gretna do not have sufficient facilities to fulfil their fixture obligations. Doesn't matter it's not the stands and it's the pitch. They should forego the right to stage home games and all future ties revert to the home of the opponent.
This will probably happen after a week on Sunday!!
They have to give this serious consideration though, particulalry if Saturday's game is postponed. Perhaps Gretna to make arrangements with Kilmarnock and Motherwell with Airdrie. (Not Hamliton's plastic).
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Paul 67 Shun
The authorities that run the game in this country are cheats
they always have been and always will be until their anti celtic agenda is wiped out
I looked back there at neil Lennon's red card at ibrox, Stuart Dougal was upset it was only a 2 match ban, he actually said it shud have been 5
Drew Herbertson (SFA REF Chief) also slaughtered lennon even before the case
chic young commented that lennon was possessed by demons and the book should be flung at him
as for walter smith and his reaction, it was 10 times more severe than anything WGS has done, yet he has had all sorts of bans, particularly the 4game ban which he got down to 2
The SFA and the SPL are Cheats.
We now have the facts to prove this.
Smith (lets put an end to this Walter nonsense as Paul mentions in his post)should have been destroyed by the media, little was made of it, even the main news channels edited it to not look as bad!
HA
IF ANYONE TELLS YOU THAT YOU ARE PARANOID, THEN PLEASE POINT THEM TO THE JIM FARRY STORY
HE WAS SACKED ON THE GROUNDS OF GROSS MISCONDUCT FOR DELIBERATELY HOLDING UP THE REGISTRATION OF JORGE CADETE SO HE WOULD MISS 2 X RANGERS GAMES
THIS IS A FACT
HE WAS THE TOP MAN AT THE SFA
Operation STOP Celtic is alive and well in Scotland, never mind Operation STOP 3 in a row
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This is what that mad mental Wikipedia makes of Neds
The descriptor' a football shirt of a major European team' may get El Cardo off the hook, on a technicality.
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Looking at the bunch of bruisers and hammer throwers that W. Smith picks every week it is no surprise that under his mild-mannered persona there is a vicious streak in him. However, whenever I see images of his cohorts on the Ibrox bench I am always dismayed to see Kenny McDowall there. I'm not sure if he knows much about football but McDowall definitely knows a thing or two about how Celtic go about their football busines. How much has he passed on to the Blue meanies?
Great to see Strachan stuck with JVOH at the weekend and the big fella got a goal at the death. His goalscoring ratio is starting to impress.
Terrific result for the Under 19 yoofs up at Dundee as well, they played on with 8 men...Another example Paul of the power of the celtic spirit. I have just finished John Cairney's book Heroes are Forever about Jimmy McGrory and it is bulging with other great tales of endurance and sweet victory.
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Walter's antics have given as clear an indication yet as to the likey Rankers game plan at Ipox - get stuck into us at every opportunity, to firghten us in a not disimilar way to the first fixture. Back to front, from McGregor to Cuellar to Ferguson to McCulloch - clatter them. In these likely circumstances, can I respectfully request that Bobo polishes his boots for action, beginning tomorrow night?
Zander Diamond dominated in the air on Sunday's 2nd half. At Boruc's save from him Hartley and Hinkel were defending the posts. There were no other Celtic players between Diamond and another Don and the goal line. Caldwell and McManus are not up to the task of defending aerial balls where there is an aerial threat. If nothing else, Rankers possess such threat. Bobo wins 99/100 in the air. This strength is an imperative for the 29th.
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Blogger Lennondinho18,
We have all the evidence we need to expose the corruption throughout Scottish football, on and off the field. This involves the SFA, SPL, SFL and includes member clubs who comply with the wishes of one club.
It also, of course spreads through all the media outlets. The single minded thought processes of independent organisations, who all see events the same way defies all known odds calculating systems.
So, we are agreed, I hope, that there is collusion and corruption in a grand scale at work here.
The problem is, to whom do we submit this evidence for action?
Clearly, there is no court in this land who will touch it.
UEFA? As far as I believe, no club can take action against their own association and anyway, even if we could, they have their man Taylor in situ, to head off any progress on that front.
The only avenue, I believe, that we have open to us, is for a shareholder, with no direct involvement in the club to take an action based on an unfair trading market. however, I don't know if such a course is possible or feasible.
The last resort is the Jock Stein Field Levelling Process.
It involves the art of sticking the ba' in the back of the net.
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According to today's Herald, "Walter" was simply showing passion! The article makes a joke of the issue and also the Kiving Gallacher comments you quote, Paul.
I have written the letter below to the Herald. I'm not holding my breath to see it published!
Sir,
Your newspaper commonly reports on the damage caused to society by “neds”, “chavs” or other groups of young people. Surely in order to tackle this behaviour older members of society have a responsibility to show a good example? And responsible newspapers should surely take a lead in adopting a dignified approach to reporting breaches of acceptable behavioural norms?
In this context, I was appalled to read the column by Greame MacPherson (11 March 2008) reporting on the behaviour of Walter Smith during Sunday’s match against Hibernian.
Following the sending off of one of his players for an awful tackle, the Rangers manager pushed an official out of the way to remonstrate with his opposite number Mixu Paatelainen. According to Mr MacPherson, those observing his attack “could not have failed to raise a smile.“ Actually, I fail to see what is funny about a manager physically shoving an official in order to argue with an opponent. Is this really the sort of behaviour we want our young players to aspire to?
Mr MacPherson’s article then goes on to quote Kevin Gallacher as he explains how he was attacked by Smith, then Assistant Manager of Dundee United, for the heinous crime of not laying out kit properly.
“I was lucky that he caught me in the boot room so he could only jab me. If it was in the gym, you were getting full-blown punches, so I was quite lucky.”
Gallacher was 13 at the time.
Is it correct for a newspaper to glorify a physical attack by a full grown man on a child? Again, why is such thuggish behaviour reported in a jocular manner, rather than being exposed for the bullying that it clearly is?
Frankly, I expect The Herald and its columnists to take a lead in condemning unacceptable behaviour in sport rather than taking a light hearted approach that implies acceptance of such conduct.
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Hail, Hail
STANDING UP FOR TOMMY BURNS
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If its been mentioned already I apologise. However, I see that the forces of evil are cranking up the pressure to stop 3 in a row - McCurry is the referee tomorrow night.
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Did Jim Mc. Lean know that his assistant manager, Smith, was beating up children in the club gym.
We should be told. Abuse is wrong in whatever form it takes.
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Gordon_J
I can't say I am anything but surprised by the way the media have (not) reported this story.
There has been an agenda from as long as I can remember but this year it seems to all the worst because god forbid that little upstart Gordon Strachan would see off the third Hun manager, let alone he who must be called Walter.
Imagine the headlines if Kevin Gallagher or someone else had said the same about Ghord. There would be a media frenzy not seen since Ghord defended a member of his backroom staff against lies by a steward or when Neil Lennon told Stuart Dougal what he thought of him.
oh and...
Close Fir Park, things there are a joke.
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Paul67 - ;oD
Gordon J - Excellent letter my friend, I hope you get a reply that your letter merits.
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malceye,
Don't worry about Mc. Curry. We are a cert to get a penalty as part of his absolution to show that "these things even themselves out."
Mind you, we may need to be two or three goals up with two minutes to go though.
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Paul - thank you for pointing out "Watty's" town of origin. Lanark's loss was Glasgow's gain....
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Lanarkcelt
I think Smith grew up in Carmyle, a torrid little place near me
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Is it too late to organise a yellow card protest against the rev tomorrow night?
or even a big banner with something along the lines of "You're nothing but a cheating (insert expletive of choice)
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Mort - "Minister of God"?
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bazzabhoy
not quite what I was thinking but it would certainly do the trick :-)
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Inkybhoy - many thanks for saving the day.
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Lanarkcelt.
I can confirm that inkbhoy is correct in confirming Watties home.
Lanark will be the county on his birth cert.
He was joined coach with a knox at Scotland u/15's when i attended. pair of biggoted gits; scarred me for life.......
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Thom the Tim
I agree 100% mate
best way is to put the baw in the back of the net
Please Celtic give me 3 in a row and a scottish cup win at hampden
PLEASE
Thom the Tim
u can cann me Lennondiho18 mate
I dont use my 1st name Blogger!
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Thom the Tim
I agree 100% mate
best way is to put the baw in the back of the net
Please Celtic give me 3 in a row and a scottish cup win at hampden
PLEASE
Thom the Tim
u can call me Lennondiho18 mate
I dont use my 1st name Blogger!
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Danny
In case there was a mistake in my first posting, this is the correct address:
undefined.celticlover@googlemail.com
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Inkybhoy, my sister lives in Carmyle. She's in the middle of getting her nose pierced right now and then she's visitng the eldest in Barlinnie but once that's all done she says she's gonnae set her devil dug on you for those comments.
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Lennondinho,
Sorry about using your first name. A case of copy/paste. Some parents have a lot to answer for.
If my first name was Blogger, I too would drop it. A bit like a boy named Sue.
Although, I have been called a useless blogger, a lazy blogger,and such like. etc.
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Couple of questions,
Does fir park have a pitch cover?
Has the gretna game been rearranged for later this week?
and
Is it raining in motherwell yet?
Ive just checked the weather forcast for the rest of the week, no danger this game is going to go ahead on Sat. If it does we're in for a long 90 min as the park will be a disgrace.
Time for the sfa/spl to do something about the state of the picthes in this league. I've only seen 3, ours, killie and hearts that are decent. Farce.
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Blantyre Tim,
You did well to get away lightly.
Cadizzy,
Tell her I'm originally from The Halfway, but she'll need to get up the hill to Burnside if she wants to catch me now.
Standing Up
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For paranoia addicts here is the incident when Johnny Doyle was ordered off after hitting the ref with the ball.
JOHNNY DOYLE RIP
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Did no one else listen to the program on Radio Scotland last night, hosted by James Traynor, where a panel discusses the Scottish sports reporting. I cannot remember the panellists names. However, you will not be surprised to learn that the panellists agreed that Gordon Strachan would have got different treatment from Walter, the hun with no second name, because he has previous, he is a nark, he looks like a cartoon character when he runs about with his red hair (that's all I can remember). And some people wonder why Gordon Strachan treats them the way he does.
There is other rubbish spoken about journalists waiting for Gordon to "fail" so that they can have a go at him.
I heard about ten minutes of this while out driving. I've checked the BBC website and I think that the whole program will be "uploaded" in due course as the program for the 3rd March is listed. Well worth listening to if it is!
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Paul67 - you and your cohorts on CQN seem desperate to get Walter Smith into trouble.
It also appears that you are hypercritical of the mainsteam media's interpretation of events on Sunday.
Walter's behaviour was a minor and momentary lapse in judgement.
He is a passionate rather than nasty man and this passion shone through.
He is due to be cut some slack because at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
Did everyone hear that? I said at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have used the most foul abusive language during his interview with Chick Young
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG27qGTMXa4 ) ......... but at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have boasted about a feeling of Protestant supremacy surrounding Rangers but that is OK because ............ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have said "That'll be the end of the Protestant conspiracy theories then" after a referee correctly awarded a penalty to Celtic but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have laughed on the touchline at Celtic park when his team performed a mock huddle after beating us but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have been the Rangers manager who sent the club doctor to the Gleneagles hotel to discreetly give medical aid to Sheryl Gascoigne after her husband beat her up but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have been the manager of Rangers when they arranged a discreet abortion for Gordon Durie's girlfriend (so his wife wouldn't find out) but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have illegally broken his contract with the organisation that give him a job when he was on the scrapheap (weeks after telling Scott Brown and Kevin Thompson to honour their contracts) but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
I could go on, but I think I have demonstrated what a decent man he is and to suggest otherwise shows you lot up for the sad shower of paranoid delinquents you really are!
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Rimtimtim: Where can i buy a copy of "Heroes are Forever"? My brother has a special birthday this year and ,being originally from the arngad, would love a book about Jimmy McGrory.
Incidentally, Jimmy, I am told, played SEVEN times for Scotland and scored SEVEN goals. This from the most prolific British goalscorer of all time. So, the anti Celtic bias is nothing new but our growing unacceptance of it is new and long may it continue.Hopefully, subscribers such as Ed U and Govanrear will pik up on the fact that a fight agaist injustice is a worthy fight and will add the voice of the `opposition` to what all reasonable people will see as a just cause against an unjust establishment.Rangers ARE a better side than they are given credit for on here but Rangers FC are most certainly NOT a better CLUB than we accuse them of being.
Stay positive and we have a great chance of 3 in a row; do not do the Laptop`s job for them by criticising players for the occasional mistake. Instead, concentrate on our team`s qualities and support them with passion until the end of the season
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oops. Meant Garngad!
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newsletter,
you forgot to add that it became dignified for Kevin Thompson not to honour his contract when Wally became manger of the huns.
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newsletter,
Powerful stuff there and I agree, the man should be cut some slack, but preferably after he has been hung, drawn and quartered for his disservices to football and young footballers. Time then to slacken the rope.
I place a lot of the blame for this dysfunctional season at the feet of the SPL and SFA, by taking their collective eye off the ball to enable Smith's team a clear run to the title.
If ever a team did not need extra motivation, it's the present Celtic team.
Massimo Donati must be wondering what kind of corrupt league he has stumbled into. Wouldn't happen in Serie A, I tell you.
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newsletter - you might almost say that like Brutus, Watty is "an honourable man"
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Is this the same Walter Smith talking about domestic violence:
"Football has a fantastic following from men all over Scotland but that loyalty and support that we show to our favourite teams should also be extended to the people in our lives who we care about. There are women all over Scotland who experience violence and abuse in many forms which in my view, is utterly unacceptable. No one should be living with violence in our society and there is a wealth of agencies out there that can provide the right advice and support that is needed."
I wonder was Sheryl Gascoigne not worthy of his sympathy?
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Newsletter
"He may have boasted about a feeling of Protestant supremacy surrounding Rangers"
Somebody else brought this up a couple of weeks ago. I asked then for the background since I had not heard it before and was absolutely astonished (not that he had said it but that it got into the public domain) Do you know when he said it and, indeed, the one about conspiracies also?
Thanks in advance.
John
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Glad to see that scientists and academics are earning their money:
Red is the colour
Note the similarity from a study done in 2005:
Red is still the colour
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tic talk,
I agree with your comments, especially the appeal for solidarity with the team.
However, don't hold your breath expecting enlightenment from perceived "good guy" oppos. Such an animal does not exist.
It is just a case that some wear the mask better than others, because there is no way an intelligent, fair minded person can have any association with such a vile, supremacist organisation. Somewhere along the line scruples would have to be compromised.
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I've just been phone canvassed to reinstate my Sky Sports package for a half price, three months offer.
The poor wee lassie had to listen to my reasons for not adding to the obscene money that is poured into English football and Andy Gray's bank account.
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cadizzy
this was reported by Graham Spiers in this article, para 8
Also just noticed that if you remove the r from rangers it just about sums up the dignified wally.
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Talking about SkySports...
Will they be screening the Aberdeen replay?
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mort, many thanks for the link.
John
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celticlover
Mail resent.
StevieS
Yes replay is on Sky.
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Stevie 15.18
MARCH
Tue 11 Inter v Liverpool (7.45pm) 7.30pm Champions Lge
Sun 16 Fulham v Everton (1.30pm) 1pm Premier League
Sun 16 Man City v Tottenham (4pm) 3.30pm Premier League
Tue 18 Celtic v Aberdeen (7.45pm) TBC Scottish Cup
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Thom the Tim
Nae bother Shun!
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If it twas our manager that had attacked the 4th Official then they Hunday Media lapdogs would want blood.
Or it that just my paranoia kicking in again...........
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Cadizzy - In March 1997, Celtic defeated Rangers 2-0 in the Scottish Cup at Celtic Park. Paolo di Canio scored from the spot after Cadete had been tripped by Bjorklund. Smith made the conspiracy theory comments in the post match press conference.
BTW, during that game an even more blatant penalty was waved away by the referee, Jim McCluskey.
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the media's coverage of wattie compared with wee strach can be compared with the coverage of the two missing kids shannan and magdalene.
when its 'one of their own' they close ranks.
what is baffling is the uncle tims that are towing the party line.
remember that wattie's behaviour was after one of his player's had committed a career ending assault.
now to hark back to my pet subject....
does any1 on here still think we should try and play fancy football at ibrox??
or is Bobo a necessity??
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Mcgrory...,
I don't know what vintage of supporter you are, but in the early sixties, the common tactic of Rangers was to sucker our players into an overly physical game.
They had strong, thuggish types like Sammy Baird and Harold Davis, who survived bullet wounds in the Korean War.
Once our guys tried to match them, we lost the plot and any chance of winning.
We are talking about wee guys like Matt Mc. Vittie, about nine stone, soaking wet.
What I'm trying to say is that they would love us to try and match them physically, safe in the knowledge that they have masters of the black arts of football and have the protection of the MIB to practise them.
Yellow Saturday should really answer your question.
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newsletter many thanks for the reply.
Regards
John
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Mr JMcluskey of Stewarton? That's another scab that'll start itching, just when I thought it had healed.
Thanks for that!
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McGrory
If Bobo plays he will probably be booked in opening 10 mins thus leaving him walking a tightrope for remainder of the match.
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Lanarkcelt, to paraphrase a wise journalist, Carmyle’s loss was Lanark’s gain.
Newsletter, put it like that and I must accept your points. :-)
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It's expected of me but I'd have Bobo nearer liability than necessity for Ibrox. He's played a handful of games in 18 months and is best suited to the aerial bombardment - not an overly physical centre forward (it will be Darcheville and not Cousin after all) - which is not the way of the current Rangers team.
No more of a liability than Caldwell perhaps but I don't subscribe to must play Bobo theory.
Besides, I think Gordito will play Hinkel, Naylor, McManus and Caldwell if fit. It's the middle of the park where this game will be won and lost. I fear Ferguson will be the difference as none of our combinations come close to Lennon / Lambert which is the most often overlooked axis of the MON era.
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Sky Sports? That explains the reduced prices for the replay!
There was a time when a quarter final replay would bring out one of the biggest crowds.
Anyway, two important matches before that one.
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Saw this on a BBC website and my first reaction is that it looks pretty good. Any insurmountable obstacles apparent to anyone?
So my idea is an expansion to 16 teams, playing each other twice (once home once away).
The problem this leaves is there is only 30 games a season which leaves clubs short of revenue and still only 2 OF games a season.
This is where i think we could use the split more sensibly. After 30 games split the league into 4, 1st-4th, 5th - 8th, 9th- 12th, 13th-16th then the teams in these groups all go on to play each other home away again to bring the games up to 36 games a season. Obviously points are carried over and 5th place cant overtake 4th place even if they have more points after the groups are split.
I think this would work brillaintly as there would be no uneven home/away split, there would 4 OF games a season and only 2 more teams would get to play the OF 4 times as a financial reward for finishing 3rd and 4th. Teams dont play each other as often and there could be 2 or possibly 3 relegations every year.
This idea could be stupid but i think it would work well, add quite an edge to the league (close title races getting 2 OF games near the end and relegation threatened teams playing each other twice in the run in )and get rid of this ridicolous lottery league we have.
Thoughts?
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Sorry. meant to preface it with the obvious comment that this is an attempt to be rid of some of the vagaries which crop up in the present system.
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tic talk said:
"there would 4 OF games a season"
only if they make the top 4 ;-)
In all seriousness it is a workable and sensible approach, which probably means it doesn't have a chance of getting off the ground.
The only problem I can see is that teams placed 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th could be very close in terms of points and by 2 of those sides the battle for UEFA spot could be pretty redundant.
I also think that teams who are likely to finish outside the top 4 will try and supplement their
