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Tommy, you are Celtic through and through. You are a gentleman and its our privilege to have you in the fold.
The Celtic family are with you.
All the very best.
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mornin all
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ooooooooooppppppppppppps i meant afternoonzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Heard Walter is swaping his Cardigan for a Hoodie.
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Time for the authorities in Scottish Football to show us what they're made of! Though i suspect the cardigan will be getting no more than a telling off! It stinks!
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The other angle from behind and across the pitch shows the first push which was much more aggressive.
Can't find it.
Very Succinct Paul.
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If Walter's only complaint was against the Hibs bench having the temerity to want the referee to protect their players against brutality, why, in the scene with Ferguson, B. does he gesticulate demonstratively towards the field of play?
I think we should be told.
Failing that, we could just make a few suggestions on CQN.
I'll go first.
He was pointing at Gatheussi trying to raise the tone of the repertoire at Ibrox by bringing back that huge hit from the 70s: Dig a hole and bury him.
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I find its strange that they are only talking about a two match ban for Uncle Walter, when WGS initially got a four match ban when he got verbally attacked by an Aberdeen Steward. Seems to me they are trying to influence the SFA committee.
Just compare the hate stories and calls for lengthy bans when Neil Lennon pushed the Ref at the end of an old firm game and the non coverage of the forth official being pushed by Uncle Walter.
On Radio Clyde as predicted they came out with the old "we didn't see it or hear about it" comment, from people who are paid to watch and discuss Football.
As someone once said
"Just Because I'm Paranoid Doesn't Mean They're Not Out to Get Me!"
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Paul67 - Class mate ! did you write that yourself or is it elsewhere on the Net?
govanrear - mccurry is a cheat, the sfa are an extenstion of rangers, wee bawy can manhandle players and not be booked (grabbing the Aberdeen lad round the throat) cousins can assualt 2 of our players hospitalising 1 with no foul given (and laugh and joke with that cheeky chappie (id love to bump into him) whilst McManus is out cold - on a stretcher - being given oxygen.
You cannot honestly, hand on heart, serisouly claim that Celtic and rangers are treated the same way in our "best small" country?
Le Guen even said that grand master flash had 80% of the press in his rectum, sorry back pocket.
I detest your club and everything that it stands for.
Please dont take this as an attack on yourself, I have numerous rangers supporting mates (all ugly right enough)I just hate your club, its directors, its management, its players, the rangers trust, the sfa, the spl, don mcvicar, stuart dougal, shug dallas, rev vindaloo, ian brines, the written press, the televised press and maggie thatcher. Ive prob missed a few others I hate, although Im sure you get the drift.
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Many happy returns, Hoopslegend Thomas, son of Grave.
You share the cake with Didier Drogba, Tejano legend Flaco Jimenez, and American psycho-prankster Johnny Knoxville. Some indeed thought there was something Jackass-like in the way TG would tear up and down the field.
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I don't want to be seen to be defending "Walter", but the SFA dish out touchline bans based on previous history. 1st sending off for a manager/coach is a 2 game ban, second 4, and 3rd is Ten games. I thnk the offences have to occur within a specific time frame. Gordon Strachan got a two game ban for his first sending off (don't remember why or the game), then he got a 4 game ban for the sending off when he spoke to Neil McCann and would have got a ten game ban for his Pittodrie sending off if his second ban had not been quashed on appeal.
Interestingly his Pittodrie sending off got him a 4 game ban which was reduced to 2 on appeal; which begs the question of how much an offence he actually committed. Presumambly the appeals commitee couldn't quash two sendings off in a row but recognised our manager didn't do too much wrong and reduced the ban accordingly.
As for the cardigan wearing ned, he will get an automatic two game ban and hopfefully the fourth official will have mentioned in his report the assualt and this SHOULD lead to a supplementary ban.. I say should because I think we all know it won't.
That's why we're Paranoid, That's why we're Paranoid
Thoughts and prayers are with one of the Celtic family this day. get well soon Tommy Burns and god bless.
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The sycophantic nonsense in the Herald today tells us exactly where the establishment are going with this.
We can all imagine the screaming headlines if Gordon had laid hands on a match official.
But it’s OK for Walter because he’s a cuddly granddad, passionate about the game. They are not even trying to hide their favouritism they are so terrified we will win 3IAR.
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Let's have a special song for Tommy Burns at Celtic Park tomorrow night. The man is a Celtic legend and will have all of our support in his most recent battle.
BTW, one of the reports reminded me that he only has 8 Scotland caps. Can anyone seriously say there is no bias against our club and its players in this country?
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Sorry, I did not realise that you had moved on...................
Tommy Burns is one of that rare breed of men who lives his Christianity in his day to day life, & gives religion a good name.
My daughter is a nurse at the Beatson Oncology Unit in Glasgow, & tells me that Tommy was a regular visitor to different people over the years. One story sticks in my memory.
Tommy was making a visit when a super efficient member of staff told him he would have to wait elsewhere while a meal was served, & that he would be told when he could return. Unfortunately, in the hustle of a busy ward, he was forgotten about. Over an hour later Tommy was discovered, still sitting patiently & uncomplaining, in the waiting room.
Such is the nature of this decent & generous natured man.
My thoughts & inadequate prayers are with him & his family at this worrying time.
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Best of luck to Tommy Burns.
Thoughts are with him and his family.
Caddizzy,he may have been out if town on business,he moves about a bit.
Glad you enjoyed yourself.
Know a few of the lads.
Didn't find the fags,and my mobile phone was half inched too,as I noticed a wee bit later.
The cheeky sod.
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Sorry about the extra D Cadizzy
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Best wishes to Tommy and Rosemary.
Govanrear,
You made some good points last night, observations that things go for you and against you in football matches. Some reasonable examples quoted where referee's and linesman's decision incorrectly went against Rangers.
Every football fan will be able to quote recent decisions which were wrongly called against his/her team. Most will be of the offside/onside nature, booking or no booking, red card or no red card, foul or no foul variety. Just as you have done.
There are a couple of things that lie outwith that normal statistical distribution for me. Certain decisions which are not split-second, not 50-50 nor 60-40 borderlines.
The first is the issue of booking players for celebrating a goal by leaving the field of play. Not a difficult thing to assess, you would think.
Kenny Miller and JVOH both received yellow cards at Inverness for leaving the field and celebrating with supporters, the latter resulting in a red for a second caution. Sebo did exactly the same thing at Easter Road and received no booking. That was last season.
This season Scott McDonald was booked for leaving the field of play after scoring at Fir Park against Gretna. He didn't go beyond the advertising boards and went nowehere near the fans. Yellow card.
Barry Ferguson did likewise at the same venue against the same opponents. No card. Similarly at Ibrox against Celtic Ferguson left the field of play and received no booking on a day when yellow cards were being thrown around like confetti.
Daniel Cousin leaves the field of play and goes into the fans to celebrate scoring against Gretna at Ibrox. No booking.
Is this a difficult law to administer? Are there ANY examples of a Celtic player going into the crowd and not being booked in Scotland?? Is it only Celtic players who get booked for this or is it only Rangers players who don't?
Two seasons, same problem.
Or is it three seasons? I still, three years later, don't know why Craig Bellamy was booked for falling to his knees at the edge of the box at Ibrox after scoring. No explanation. No offence.
Secondly, what influence does David Murray have over a free and open sports press in Scotland? Do you really believe that we have equality in reporting in this country when it comes to Celtic and Rangers?
He has important media players in his back pocket because they want to be in his back pocket. This does nothing for the game in Scotland and does nothing for the quality of journalism that results.
Influence is brought to bear by the media whether we like it or not. Recall Bobo Balde being banned after a disciplinary meeting was brought forward to look at an incident at Easter Road? No complaints over the incident but the reason cited for bring the meeting forward was the "high profile nature" of the incident.
The media influenced the football body resulting in a timely ban for Bobo. I have not seen anything of a similar nature since.
There are others which fall into the "strange" category. Jim Farry is the most well known, despite THREE internal reviews declaring no case to answer before it finally went to court. Who carried out those internal reviews and did they have a vested interest?
I'd be interested to know if there are examples you have seen where Rangers have been subjected to "strange" decisions away from the slit-second, 50-50, 60-40 type decisions. Genuine question for you.
Welcome to CQN - debate is good - I hope your tin hat is as resilient as Edward's! He has brought much debate to the site - always good to have a counter view to stimulate good debates. Or barnys.
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Gordon_J
One of the main reasons for Tommy's lack of caps was Big Jock. Tommy was quite badly treated by the big man according to his own book. From memory I think Jock had a squad of 23 preparing for Spain 82. He could only take 22 and simply read out the 22 that were going, leaving TB out. This was how he elarned he was not going, not Jock talking to him personally about it. Apparently the other squad members were quite taken aback. 8 caps may or may not be a fair total but I don't think we can play the bias card for Tommy given the era of his prime.
Good luck Tommy, a true Celt and more importantly a truly good man.
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Gordon J- Tommy played very well in season 81-82, but he decision not to take him to the WC was made by Jock Stein. The midfielders he did take included Provan, Wark, Hartford, the Beast and GStrachan.
Tommy may have got more caps if not for a certain JRobertson ,who was deservedly #1 pick as left sided midfielder. Still, he got 6 more than GConnelly, but nowhere near what he deserved.
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At what stage does the SPL step in and declare Fir Park out of bounds for this season and encourage M'well and Gretna to find suitable temporary accommodation.
This season is turning into a complete farce as far as fixture congestion is concerned and it must be a nightmare for supporter's club conveners to make plans.
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celtic_lover
I've sent you a mail to your gmail address.
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Walter Smith has worked on projecting an image of a quietly conscientious manager, a statesman-like figure. This, just like the public image that his glorious leader likes to display through journalistic toadies, is nothing more than a sham.
People often refer to THAT Walter interview with Chick Young as if it is hugely humourous. To the extent that Chick gets a verbal lashing, I suppose there is dark humour. However, the utter contrast to the image Walter publicly seeks to portray is frightening. When he lowers his guard, he is clearly no better than a ned as you correctly identify Paul.
If there is one story that accurately reflects the bias in the Scottish press, it is this one. Even if Walter mistakenly thought there was no foul (which is clearly not possible standing the view he must have had) there is no excuse, simply none whatsoever for his antics. As someone else said, so what if the Hibs bench were urging Novo to be sent off ? On one view that was a restrained reaction. To be in the opposition dugout demands vilification by the press. It has not and will not happen.
Now, just imagine WGS did exactly the same. The knotted rope would be at the ready at Park Gardens.
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The main article (above) has been edited with additional information.
Bazzabhoy, *!*! did I copy this from somewhere else on the net? Are you new?
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Thom
Absolutely. It's time that the SPL step in and declare that Motherwell and Gretna do not have sufficient facilities to fulfil their fixture obligations. Doesn't matter it's not the stands and it's the pitch. They should forego the right to stage home games and all future ties revert to the home of the opponent.
This will probably happen after a week on Sunday!!
They have to give this serious consideration though, particulalry if Saturday's game is postponed. Perhaps Gretna to make arrangements with Kilmarnock and Motherwell with Airdrie. (Not Hamliton's plastic).
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Paul 67 Shun
The authorities that run the game in this country are cheats
they always have been and always will be until their anti celtic agenda is wiped out
I looked back there at neil Lennon's red card at ibrox, Stuart Dougal was upset it was only a 2 match ban, he actually said it shud have been 5
Drew Herbertson (SFA REF Chief) also slaughtered lennon even before the case
chic young commented that lennon was possessed by demons and the book should be flung at him
as for walter smith and his reaction, it was 10 times more severe than anything WGS has done, yet he has had all sorts of bans, particularly the 4game ban which he got down to 2
The SFA and the SPL are Cheats.
We now have the facts to prove this.
Smith (lets put an end to this Walter nonsense as Paul mentions in his post)should have been destroyed by the media, little was made of it, even the main news channels edited it to not look as bad!
HA
IF ANYONE TELLS YOU THAT YOU ARE PARANOID, THEN PLEASE POINT THEM TO THE JIM FARRY STORY
HE WAS SACKED ON THE GROUNDS OF GROSS MISCONDUCT FOR DELIBERATELY HOLDING UP THE REGISTRATION OF JORGE CADETE SO HE WOULD MISS 2 X RANGERS GAMES
THIS IS A FACT
HE WAS THE TOP MAN AT THE SFA
Operation STOP Celtic is alive and well in Scotland, never mind Operation STOP 3 in a row
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This is what that mad mental Wikipedia makes of Neds
The descriptor' a football shirt of a major European team' may get El Cardo off the hook, on a technicality.
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Looking at the bunch of bruisers and hammer throwers that W. Smith picks every week it is no surprise that under his mild-mannered persona there is a vicious streak in him. However, whenever I see images of his cohorts on the Ibrox bench I am always dismayed to see Kenny McDowall there. I'm not sure if he knows much about football but McDowall definitely knows a thing or two about how Celtic go about their football busines. How much has he passed on to the Blue meanies?
Great to see Strachan stuck with JVOH at the weekend and the big fella got a goal at the death. His goalscoring ratio is starting to impress.
Terrific result for the Under 19 yoofs up at Dundee as well, they played on with 8 men...Another example Paul of the power of the celtic spirit. I have just finished John Cairney's book Heroes are Forever about Jimmy McGrory and it is bulging with other great tales of endurance and sweet victory.
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Walter's antics have given as clear an indication yet as to the likey Rankers game plan at Ipox - get stuck into us at every opportunity, to firghten us in a not disimilar way to the first fixture. Back to front, from McGregor to Cuellar to Ferguson to McCulloch - clatter them. In these likely circumstances, can I respectfully request that Bobo polishes his boots for action, beginning tomorrow night?
Zander Diamond dominated in the air on Sunday's 2nd half. At Boruc's save from him Hartley and Hinkel were defending the posts. There were no other Celtic players between Diamond and another Don and the goal line. Caldwell and McManus are not up to the task of defending aerial balls where there is an aerial threat. If nothing else, Rankers possess such threat. Bobo wins 99/100 in the air. This strength is an imperative for the 29th.
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Blogger Lennondinho18,
We have all the evidence we need to expose the corruption throughout Scottish football, on and off the field. This involves the SFA, SPL, SFL and includes member clubs who comply with the wishes of one club.
It also, of course spreads through all the media outlets. The single minded thought processes of independent organisations, who all see events the same way defies all known odds calculating systems.
So, we are agreed, I hope, that there is collusion and corruption in a grand scale at work here.
The problem is, to whom do we submit this evidence for action?
Clearly, there is no court in this land who will touch it.
UEFA? As far as I believe, no club can take action against their own association and anyway, even if we could, they have their man Taylor in situ, to head off any progress on that front.
The only avenue, I believe, that we have open to us, is for a shareholder, with no direct involvement in the club to take an action based on an unfair trading market. however, I don't know if such a course is possible or feasible.
The last resort is the Jock Stein Field Levelling Process.
It involves the art of sticking the ba' in the back of the net.
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According to today's Herald, "Walter" was simply showing passion! The article makes a joke of the issue and also the Kiving Gallacher comments you quote, Paul.
I have written the letter below to the Herald. I'm not holding my breath to see it published!
Sir,
Your newspaper commonly reports on the damage caused to society by “neds”, “chavs” or other groups of young people. Surely in order to tackle this behaviour older members of society have a responsibility to show a good example? And responsible newspapers should surely take a lead in adopting a dignified approach to reporting breaches of acceptable behavioural norms?
In this context, I was appalled to read the column by Greame MacPherson (11 March 2008) reporting on the behaviour of Walter Smith during Sunday’s match against Hibernian.
Following the sending off of one of his players for an awful tackle, the Rangers manager pushed an official out of the way to remonstrate with his opposite number Mixu Paatelainen. According to Mr MacPherson, those observing his attack “could not have failed to raise a smile.“ Actually, I fail to see what is funny about a manager physically shoving an official in order to argue with an opponent. Is this really the sort of behaviour we want our young players to aspire to?
Mr MacPherson’s article then goes on to quote Kevin Gallacher as he explains how he was attacked by Smith, then Assistant Manager of Dundee United, for the heinous crime of not laying out kit properly.
“I was lucky that he caught me in the boot room so he could only jab me. If it was in the gym, you were getting full-blown punches, so I was quite lucky.”
Gallacher was 13 at the time.
Is it correct for a newspaper to glorify a physical attack by a full grown man on a child? Again, why is such thuggish behaviour reported in a jocular manner, rather than being exposed for the bullying that it clearly is?
Frankly, I expect The Herald and its columnists to take a lead in condemning unacceptable behaviour in sport rather than taking a light hearted approach that implies acceptance of such conduct.
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Hail, Hail
STANDING UP FOR TOMMY BURNS
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If its been mentioned already I apologise. However, I see that the forces of evil are cranking up the pressure to stop 3 in a row - McCurry is the referee tomorrow night.
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Did Jim Mc. Lean know that his assistant manager, Smith, was beating up children in the club gym.
We should be told. Abuse is wrong in whatever form it takes.
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Gordon_J
I can't say I am anything but surprised by the way the media have (not) reported this story.
There has been an agenda from as long as I can remember but this year it seems to all the worst because god forbid that little upstart Gordon Strachan would see off the third Hun manager, let alone he who must be called Walter.
Imagine the headlines if Kevin Gallagher or someone else had said the same about Ghord. There would be a media frenzy not seen since Ghord defended a member of his backroom staff against lies by a steward or when Neil Lennon told Stuart Dougal what he thought of him.
oh and...
Close Fir Park, things there are a joke.
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Paul67 - ;oD
Gordon J - Excellent letter my friend, I hope you get a reply that your letter merits.
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malceye,
Don't worry about Mc. Curry. We are a cert to get a penalty as part of his absolution to show that "these things even themselves out."
Mind you, we may need to be two or three goals up with two minutes to go though.
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Paul - thank you for pointing out "Watty's" town of origin. Lanark's loss was Glasgow's gain....
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Lanarkcelt
I think Smith grew up in Carmyle, a torrid little place near me
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Is it too late to organise a yellow card protest against the rev tomorrow night?
or even a big banner with something along the lines of "You're nothing but a cheating (insert expletive of choice)
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Mort - "Minister of God"?
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bazzabhoy
not quite what I was thinking but it would certainly do the trick :-)
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Inkybhoy - many thanks for saving the day.
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Lanarkcelt.
I can confirm that inkbhoy is correct in confirming Watties home.
Lanark will be the county on his birth cert.
He was joined coach with a knox at Scotland u/15's when i attended. pair of biggoted gits; scarred me for life.......
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Thom the Tim
I agree 100% mate
best way is to put the baw in the back of the net
Please Celtic give me 3 in a row and a scottish cup win at hampden
PLEASE
Thom the Tim
u can cann me Lennondiho18 mate
I dont use my 1st name Blogger!
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Thom the Tim
I agree 100% mate
best way is to put the baw in the back of the net
Please Celtic give me 3 in a row and a scottish cup win at hampden
PLEASE
Thom the Tim
u can call me Lennondiho18 mate
I dont use my 1st name Blogger!
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Danny
In case there was a mistake in my first posting, this is the correct address:
undefined.celticlover@googlemail.com
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Inkybhoy, my sister lives in Carmyle. She's in the middle of getting her nose pierced right now and then she's visitng the eldest in Barlinnie but once that's all done she says she's gonnae set her devil dug on you for those comments.
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Lennondinho,
Sorry about using your first name. A case of copy/paste. Some parents have a lot to answer for.
If my first name was Blogger, I too would drop it. A bit like a boy named Sue.
Although, I have been called a useless blogger, a lazy blogger,and such like. etc.
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Couple of questions,
Does fir park have a pitch cover?
Has the gretna game been rearranged for later this week?
and
Is it raining in motherwell yet?
Ive just checked the weather forcast for the rest of the week, no danger this game is going to go ahead on Sat. If it does we're in for a long 90 min as the park will be a disgrace.
Time for the sfa/spl to do something about the state of the picthes in this league. I've only seen 3, ours, killie and hearts that are decent. Farce.
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Blantyre Tim,
You did well to get away lightly.
Cadizzy,
Tell her I'm originally from The Halfway, but she'll need to get up the hill to Burnside if she wants to catch me now.
Standing Up
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For paranoia addicts here is the incident when Johnny Doyle was ordered off after hitting the ref with the ball.
JOHNNY DOYLE RIP
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Did no one else listen to the program on Radio Scotland last night, hosted by James Traynor, where a panel discusses the Scottish sports reporting. I cannot remember the panellists names. However, you will not be surprised to learn that the panellists agreed that Gordon Strachan would have got different treatment from Walter, the hun with no second name, because he has previous, he is a nark, he looks like a cartoon character when he runs about with his red hair (that's all I can remember). And some people wonder why Gordon Strachan treats them the way he does.
There is other rubbish spoken about journalists waiting for Gordon to "fail" so that they can have a go at him.
I heard about ten minutes of this while out driving. I've checked the BBC website and I think that the whole program will be "uploaded" in due course as the program for the 3rd March is listed. Well worth listening to if it is!
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Paul67 - you and your cohorts on CQN seem desperate to get Walter Smith into trouble.
It also appears that you are hypercritical of the mainsteam media's interpretation of events on Sunday.
Walter's behaviour was a minor and momentary lapse in judgement.
He is a passionate rather than nasty man and this passion shone through.
He is due to be cut some slack because at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
Did everyone hear that? I said at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have used the most foul abusive language during his interview with Chick Young
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG27qGTMXa4 ) ......... but at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have boasted about a feeling of Protestant supremacy surrounding Rangers but that is OK because ............ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have said "That'll be the end of the Protestant conspiracy theories then" after a referee correctly awarded a penalty to Celtic but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have laughed on the touchline at Celtic park when his team performed a mock huddle after beating us but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have been the Rangers manager who sent the club doctor to the Gleneagles hotel to discreetly give medical aid to Sheryl Gascoigne after her husband beat her up but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have been the manager of Rangers when they arranged a discreet abortion for Gordon Durie's girlfriend (so his wife wouldn't find out) but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
He may have illegally broken his contract with the organisation that give him a job when he was on the scrapheap (weeks after telling Scott Brown and Kevin Thompson to honour their contracts) but that is OK because ........ at all times previously he has behaved with the utmost dignity.
I could go on, but I think I have demonstrated what a decent man he is and to suggest otherwise shows you lot up for the sad shower of paranoid delinquents you really are!
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Rimtimtim: Where can i buy a copy of "Heroes are Forever"? My brother has a special birthday this year and ,being originally from the arngad, would love a book about Jimmy McGrory.
Incidentally, Jimmy, I am told, played SEVEN times for Scotland and scored SEVEN goals. This from the most prolific British goalscorer of all time. So, the anti Celtic bias is nothing new but our growing unacceptance of it is new and long may it continue.Hopefully, subscribers such as Ed U and Govanrear will pik up on the fact that a fight agaist injustice is a worthy fight and will add the voice of the `opposition` to what all reasonable people will see as a just cause against an unjust establishment.Rangers ARE a better side than they are given credit for on here but Rangers FC are most certainly NOT a better CLUB than we accuse them of being.
Stay positive and we have a great chance of 3 in a row; do not do the Laptop`s job for them by criticising players for the occasional mistake. Instead, concentrate on our team`s qualities and support them with passion until the end of the season
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oops. Meant Garngad!
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newsletter,
you forgot to add that it became dignified for Kevin Thompson not to honour his contract when Wally became manger of the huns.
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newsletter,
Powerful stuff there and I agree, the man should be cut some slack, but preferably after he has been hung, drawn and quartered for his disservices to football and young footballers. Time then to slacken the rope.
I place a lot of the blame for this dysfunctional season at the feet of the SPL and SFA, by taking their collective eye off the ball to enable Smith's team a clear run to the title.
If ever a team did not need extra motivation, it's the present Celtic team.
Massimo Donati must be wondering what kind of corrupt league he has stumbled into. Wouldn't happen in Serie A, I tell you.
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newsletter - you might almost say that like Brutus, Watty is "an honourable man"
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Is this the same Walter Smith talking about domestic violence:
"Football has a fantastic following from men all over Scotland but that loyalty and support that we show to our favourite teams should also be extended to the people in our lives who we care about. There are women all over Scotland who experience violence and abuse in many forms which in my view, is utterly unacceptable. No one should be living with violence in our society and there is a wealth of agencies out there that can provide the right advice and support that is needed."
I wonder was Sheryl Gascoigne not worthy of his sympathy?
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Newsletter
"He may have boasted about a feeling of Protestant supremacy surrounding Rangers"
Somebody else brought this up a couple of weeks ago. I asked then for the background since I had not heard it before and was absolutely astonished (not that he had said it but that it got into the public domain) Do you know when he said it and, indeed, the one about conspiracies also?
Thanks in advance.
John
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Glad to see that scientists and academics are earning their money:
Red is the colour
Note the similarity from a study done in 2005:
Red is still the colour
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tic talk,
I agree with your comments, especially the appeal for solidarity with the team.
However, don't hold your breath expecting enlightenment from perceived "good guy" oppos. Such an animal does not exist.
It is just a case that some wear the mask better than others, because there is no way an intelligent, fair minded person can have any association with such a vile, supremacist organisation. Somewhere along the line scruples would have to be compromised.
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I've just been phone canvassed to reinstate my Sky Sports package for a half price, three months offer.
The poor wee lassie had to listen to my reasons for not adding to the obscene money that is poured into English football and Andy Gray's bank account.
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cadizzy
this was reported by Graham Spiers in this article, para 8
Also just noticed that if you remove the r from rangers it just about sums up the dignified wally.
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Talking about SkySports...
Will they be screening the Aberdeen replay?
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mort, many thanks for the link.
John
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celticlover
Mail resent.
StevieS
Yes replay is on Sky.
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Stevie 15.18
MARCH
Tue 11 Inter v Liverpool (7.45pm) 7.30pm Champions Lge
Sun 16 Fulham v Everton (1.30pm) 1pm Premier League
Sun 16 Man City v Tottenham (4pm) 3.30pm Premier League
Tue 18 Celtic v Aberdeen (7.45pm) TBC Scottish Cup
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Thom the Tim
Nae bother Shun!
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If it twas our manager that had attacked the 4th Official then they Hunday Media lapdogs would want blood.
Or it that just my paranoia kicking in again...........
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Cadizzy - In March 1997, Celtic defeated Rangers 2-0 in the Scottish Cup at Celtic Park. Paolo di Canio scored from the spot after Cadete had been tripped by Bjorklund. Smith made the conspiracy theory comments in the post match press conference.
BTW, during that game an even more blatant penalty was waved away by the referee, Jim McCluskey.
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the media's coverage of wattie compared with wee strach can be compared with the coverage of the two missing kids shannan and magdalene.
when its 'one of their own' they close ranks.
what is baffling is the uncle tims that are towing the party line.
remember that wattie's behaviour was after one of his player's had committed a career ending assault.
now to hark back to my pet subject....
does any1 on here still think we should try and play fancy football at ibrox??
or is Bobo a necessity??
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Mcgrory...,
I don't know what vintage of supporter you are, but in the early sixties, the common tactic of Rangers was to sucker our players into an overly physical game.
They had strong, thuggish types like Sammy Baird and Harold Davis, who survived bullet wounds in the Korean War.
Once our guys tried to match them, we lost the plot and any chance of winning.
We are talking about wee guys like Matt Mc. Vittie, about nine stone, soaking wet.
What I'm trying to say is that they would love us to try and match them physically, safe in the knowledge that they have masters of the black arts of football and have the protection of the MIB to practise them.
Yellow Saturday should really answer your question.
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newsletter many thanks for the reply.
Regards
John
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Mr JMcluskey of Stewarton? That's another scab that'll start itching, just when I thought it had healed.
Thanks for that!
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McGrory
If Bobo plays he will probably be booked in opening 10 mins thus leaving him walking a tightrope for remainder of the match.
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Lanarkcelt, to paraphrase a wise journalist, Carmyle’s loss was Lanark’s gain.
Newsletter, put it like that and I must accept your points. :-)
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It's expected of me but I'd have Bobo nearer liability than necessity for Ibrox. He's played a handful of games in 18 months and is best suited to the aerial bombardment - not an overly physical centre forward (it will be Darcheville and not Cousin after all) - which is not the way of the current Rangers team.
No more of a liability than Caldwell perhaps but I don't subscribe to must play Bobo theory.
Besides, I think Gordito will play Hinkel, Naylor, McManus and Caldwell if fit. It's the middle of the park where this game will be won and lost. I fear Ferguson will be the difference as none of our combinations come close to Lennon / Lambert which is the most often overlooked axis of the MON era.
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Sky Sports? That explains the reduced prices for the replay!
There was a time when a quarter final replay would bring out one of the biggest crowds.
Anyway, two important matches before that one.
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Saw this on a BBC website and my first reaction is that it looks pretty good. Any insurmountable obstacles apparent to anyone?
So my idea is an expansion to 16 teams, playing each other twice (once home once away).
The problem this leaves is there is only 30 games a season which leaves clubs short of revenue and still only 2 OF games a season.
This is where i think we could use the split more sensibly. After 30 games split the league into 4, 1st-4th, 5th - 8th, 9th- 12th, 13th-16th then the teams in these groups all go on to play each other home away again to bring the games up to 36 games a season. Obviously points are carried over and 5th place cant overtake 4th place even if they have more points after the groups are split.
I think this would work brillaintly as there would be no uneven home/away split, there would 4 OF games a season and only 2 more teams would get to play the OF 4 times as a financial reward for finishing 3rd and 4th. Teams dont play each other as often and there could be 2 or possibly 3 relegations every year.
This idea could be stupid but i think it would work well, add quite an edge to the league (close title races getting 2 OF games near the end and relegation threatened teams playing each other twice in the run in )and get rid of this ridicolous lottery league we have.
Thoughts?
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Sorry. meant to preface it with the obvious comment that this is an attempt to be rid of some of the vagaries which crop up in the present system.
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tic talk said:
"there would 4 OF games a season"
only if they make the top 4 ;-)
In all seriousness it is a workable and sensible approach, which probably means it doesn't have a chance of getting off the ground.
The only problem I can see is that teams placed 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th could be very close in terms of points and by 2 of those sides the battle for UEFA spot could be pretty redundant.
I also think that teams who are likely to finish outside the top 4 will try and supplement their income by charging a lot more for games against Celtic.
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why not increase to 20 teams in SPL.
2 up 2 down automatically and play offs between next two in each league for one further up and down slot.
Problem is that no one will vote for losing Celtic and Rangers income, whatever way you structure it.
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obviously only play each other twice.
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govanrear (and others),
You may think we are all tainted to some degree with paranoia, but wasn't it one of your own- Graham Spiers- who has lifted the lid recently on these 2 facts
1. Celtic have been the vistim of injustices by officialdom in the past (no indication if/when this ended- I suggest it hasn't)
2. David Murray has many of our sports media in his back pocket "winalot journalists" was the term.
......and as I said, he (Spiers)is one of yours!
Mort- that quote from Smith- what a shocking thing to say- more like the 1690's rather than 1990's.
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vistim = victim
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The shocking thing about the quote is that if WSmith had discussed it with any other journalist but Super Britney it would never have escaped into the public domain.
On the other hand if say, Gordon Strachan was to say 'There is a Catholic paranoia syndrome around this club..you can feel it' it would be the lead item in every media outlet in Scotland.
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Tic talk,
If splitting the league into two lakes little sense, then splitting into four makes even less to me.
I am a traditionalist and prefer the old everyone plays everyone else routine. I would have a league of 18 or 20 teams playing home and away.
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Hoopslegend Wim Jansen playing in the 1978 WCFinal
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Have to put in a wee prayer for Tommy Burns.
The man is a pure gentleman and deserves more than he has already earned in Scottish football.
Met him on a few occasions and every time he had loads of time to talk about things past, present and future at Celtic.
Not a yes man either when it comes to things Celtic, as he once critisized our scouting plans which were shocking, in front of a full crowd of Celtic supporters in Las Vegas.
God bless Tommy and a speedy recovery with best wishes to all your family too.
A class act.
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DBBIA, '78 WC okay, but please don't post him playing in the '70 EC final... not that I can view it sinc youtube is a "bad site" in my work. Oh to be self employed.... or stinking rich with no need to work.
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thismancraig
agree totally that the game will be won and lost in the middle of the park.
However –I still think that the centre of our defence ? need to be as aggressive as possible.
It also needs to be able to win the high balls that the buns will use as an out ball.
To me BB has to play as GC and Mick as not up to it.
In both Aberdeen games we gave up goals and chances because we cannot handle a physical aerial challenge !
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Darnell King in tonights Evening Times opens by saying
THE SPL will do everything in their power to guarantee there is no Old Firm title decider.
Haven't they, courtesy of their Men In Black, been doing this all season anyway? C'mon Darnell, tell us we don't know...
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Best wishes to Tommy and his family for the continuing battle he has ahead of him.
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Cadzo- if Wim played in one EC final, and 2 WC Finals, then he must have had a more impressive CV than any other person associated with the club.
You're right, I would gladly give him one[or both] WC winners medals in exchange for letting us win the big cup in 1970.
Are you going to be making it up to any games at CP soon? You seem to be going round the World like Judith Chalmers these days:~)
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Had to come on and say a God Bless Tommy Burns & Family.
In my thoughts & prayers.
Mucker
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The English are starting to squirm in the event of Cardiff winning the Cup.
They seem to be refusing them permission to take a UEFA place, as they are a Welsh team playing in England.
That being the case, why allow them to compete for the trophy.
There is no such thing as English League football ant more. It is Football played in England Consider the player representation in the league and the nationality of their top managers.
EPL= Sham.
Incidentally, did Monaco not represent the French league in Europe.. I know they fiddled the Bosman rule to cheat us out of Collins money.
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malcolm,
The very fact the the spl can just decide when to play games is inherently unfair. Another result of the stupid split.
Fixtures should be set at the start of the season. Postponed matches should be played on the first available midweek, earliest postponement first.
Keep the administrators out of it!
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Naylor and Brown back for Wednesday and S McM has recovered from his virus.
Full story here
pablophanque
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Paul67
I can confirm that dear Walter was indeed born and brought up in Carmyle Glasgow (a quaint little village on the banks of the Clyde) a mere Naka free kick from Paradise.
A favourite pass time for the multi religious habitat
was the 'traditional' regular 11 a side football match, and the two teams involved were, wait for it......................................................................................................................
Catholic V Protestant
Yes all true, played in the game myself many a time, a gift handed down from generation to generation.
Not surprisingly before the good Walter, was whisked away to Tannadice were he played almost anonymously all his career.
He regularly starred in this match in between jumping on the local supporters bus bound for you know where.
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On the WHSmith quote on “there is a real air of Protestant superiority about this place" maybe I dreamt it but I thought I saw it in an interview or at least quoted in another article besides the Graham Speirs article.
On the question of what way and team would you prefer to see Celtic play against the Huns on the 29th, a Football or a Physical side. I would settle for a winning side regardless what style they play.
Mon the Hoops
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DBBIA, I am working on it. It would help if Celtic actually got some games at home on a Saturday and we didn't get fog whenever I take a domestic flight.
You may have seen some of the interminable reporting about the weather down here in Foreign yesterday. It rained a bit and was a bit blowy... Poor luvs!
Judith Chalmers,What make-up! I seem to recall a friend who had a thing for her in her heyday, which is quite disturbing. I bet she's never been to Saudi Arabia or drank in the Dubliners in Dubai watching Channel 67.
John
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I see Gretna's game tonight at Fir Park has been postpone due to a waterlogged pitch (Rumour has it that a family of Hippos have moved in to Fir Park to wallow in the mud)
There is a good chance our game against Motherwell might be postpone too if the weather does not improve. I was hoping that the game gets played so that we can close the gap and put some pressure on the Huns.
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Evening,
Just wanted to add to everyone's comments about Tommy Burns. Keep fighting Tommy and all our prayers are with you.
Newsletter - great post....what a misunderstood man poor W Smith is. I can only assume the press does not have access to all of your facts
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Andycolo - Cheers for the Johnny Doyle link - hadn't seen that before. I had heard of it but it really does have to be seen to be believed
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The following submission is courtesy of Hampden_In_The_Sun from Celticminded.com It has taken him 5 years to collate and is only based on recent history and should be taken in that context. Who knows how long it would be if he were to trawl even further back !
Hunsareus.com
pablophanque
Ps, my first web page byraway :o)
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Davie Provan on Radio Clyde calling Artur Boruc `unstable` after saying that Steven McManus tackle v Falkirk was a red card offence. (It was a one footed tackle along the ground). Provan is going into Andy Walker style anti Celtic mode. :-)
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why ow why do people still listen to radio SNYDE. do yourself a big fav switch it AFF
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Well said tam !
pablophanque
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pablophanque
You should give a health warning with that link of yours, it is gaurantee to make your blood pressure rise. Just read a bit and had to stop it was making my blood boil about their lack of dignity.
Listening to Radio Snyde, there was a great call about WHSmith shoving the official and the lack of press coverage on it, with a follow up question about Provan calling Boruc unstable.
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Tic Talk
I picked up a copy of the McGrory book at Edinburgh airport. I think the shop was called "Borders" or something. The first part of the book goes into a fair bit of descriptive detail about The Garngad and Jimmy´s early days playing for St Roch´s. The book also mentions that Stevie Chalmers hailed from the Garngad, another great goalscorer. I´m sure your brother would enjoy it
Best of luck with your letter to the Herald Gordon J. You put over your point superbly!!
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What is "protestant superiority"? Nothing sinister I hope.
Chris
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Hi Folks - ISP imposed exile over. A few thoughts
Wattie's mask slipped plain and proper the other day.
The immediate reaction smacked, to me, of a man seeing his chances of a much vaunted treble, which would place him ever higher in to the Govan mythos as saviour and number 1 totty muncher basher, possibly slipping away. Their goal whilst Hibs had 10 men on the field, and no more since up until Novo, needlessly, assaults the Hibs boy. He just plain goes Tonto, choosing to make Mixxu the centre and empty void into which to spill his wrath. His contempt for any form of officialdom except for his own was there to be seen.
My thoughts on this were, I believe, fully vindicated when i watched his reaction to the final whistle from the director's box.
He's scared of the other teams - He thinks he's got us sewn up and matched (If not matched then certainly out-muscled - and he may be right) and relishes the thought of his saviour status to come. He worries the team will switch off for the other teams.
And anything that could or will jeapordise that will result in similar reactions - rarely on camera though - be prepared for more soft spoken understatement from the establishment mouthpiece, cushioned by their 4 point advantage and fewer and fewer games to play.
As for Fir Park - I think it's time for the SPL/SFA to bite the bullet put their hands in the pockets and close Fir Park for the season. (WG can prescribe any further closure) - use Hampden to get the backlog sorted - home ties would have to be viewed as an irrelevance. Run coaches for fans (The people who pay for the spectacle of football and are supposedly its lifeblood) to and from Hampden. Take it all on the chin and be seen to have done something, although not catholically pleasing, to actively expidite a solution.
Or is it a case of let's just see if
A) There's a worldwide calendar revamp ti input a new month known as Duffielder
B) the weather improves in near Biblical proportions to facilitate a complete drying out of all football fields
C) someone invents spray on grass
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Well V Celtic clearly in doubt it seems?
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Incidentally, against type, I emailed Setanta to see if they would explain RMcL's coments about Boruc's sinister gestures. They have not responded.
Chris
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From ETims
Walter
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Subterranean, I must have missed that. Who is RMcL and what was said?
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Sir Paul
"Much as I am unaccustomed to Public Speaking..."
Who said that?( No you!... that's a cinch!...ed)(Well, somebody did... and I want to get to the bottom of it... as the Bishop said to the Chorus gal!)
Now that I have your full and undivided attention,pal.... listen up!
A litany of agreement is always a guarantee from this place in the dial...in condemnation ...whenever, a chance is presented to us, to scoff and assume the sanctimony position, whenever our rivals leave themselves open to public disparagement/ridicule.
And it should be especially welcomed at this time.
This kind of Public demonstration of pent up emotions, by our rivals, is an indication that we are at last .....
Beginning to see them Sweat!
I am surprised at you,Paul.
This kind of event, a Public Embarrassment of Brobdingnagian Proportions( Easy fur you tae say,pal...ed)( Na, it's no!...and it's a even woiser tae spell!)of which we have been informed .. concerning the manager of the G.A...is to be welcomed!... in fact...even, encouraged.
It should never be condemned.
I am going on record at this time.. as being thoroughly supportive and consolatory to Mr.Smith in his time of trial.
And he has my permission to exhibit this kind of proscribed public behavior at every opportunity.
For as they say in downtown Scranton...
"By their fruits ye shall know them...And after witnessing dat exhibition of Petulant Pedomorphism, by Herr Schimdt.... Wella...I rest my case!"
I hope to see more and more of this kind of childish behavior served up by the G.A. manager as the season enters the final stages.
Yes, Sirree Bob...
The final denouement concerning the destination of the League Flag... is sure gonna be a Lu Lu!
Kojo.
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I think we should do a whip round for funds to buy Gretna. I reckon 20 quid might be about the going price now they are administration. If we move quickly before the huns realise what's going on, we can wind up Gretna and gain 3 points on the huns (see Telegraph article posted above).
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been reading over the last few days posts
on 10/03/08 08.11
tinytim said
Could Walters Smith's behaviour yesterday be contrived?
All for one and one for all.
If you have a go at one of my players ,i will have a go at you.
I think that he is a very shrewd man at building team spirit.
So you think it is ok for walter smith to behave the way he did tinytim as he was building team spirit.
when our manager was defending one of our coaches at aberdeen earlier in the season you had a right go at him claiming he was out of order. Does the same rule not apply.
If you have a go at one of my coaches, i will have a go at you.
Then again it was gordon and we all know where you stand regading our manager.
Biased opinion by tinytim methinks.
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Subterranean
Surely that can't be a real photo, you should change your name to submariner
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Now that’s the kind of article you’ll not read everywhere, nice one Paul.
They clothe themselves with words of dignity, but let their mask slip and you get real picture.
W. Smith like J. Wallace are from the same mould, neds that like their hammer-throwers and instil a fight mentality. I don’t know how often I’ve seen blood and guts football from the Fod. I feel they play this way because of the protection they receive. Too many times I’ve seen outright dangerous football being practised and dished out to us, and not only from the Huns. We are perpetually being kicked around Scotland. This rarely takes place in Europe, and we all know, young as well as old, the reason for that peculiarity. The latest mockery of the game is well underway. Walter (ffs) has like you say Paul shown us to be the ned he is. The C. Young interview says it all really, but now we’re getting another version of his thuggish, boorish behaviour and the media see him as a gentleman who blew his top. I have not nor am I going to read the papers. I’ll just annoy myself.
Interestingly, it could well be, that the injuries that befell us earlier on and during the season (which put us 4 behind this mob), may well be visiting those benefactors of lenient decisions at long last. If this were to happen, we will see more of W Smiths foaming, especially when we whittle down their lead. Were they to lose their best player even for two games, they will be threadbare and bereft of challenging. This Fod team have been getting a lot of luck. The run in will be too much for them. This team are incapable of firing on all fronts. Once again my only concern is how the mibs perform.
Onwards to 3 in a row.
Hail Hail
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Thanks rimtimtim.
I doubt it will be published. The on line version of the Herald usually disables comments on any story even mentioning us or them.
Sadly even the TB story has comments yurned off - clearly they can't be trusted.
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Kojo :- Surely liliputian rather than brobdingnagian proportions? I still say the pressure is more on Celtic, they are the ones who have to claw back a lead.
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Hi Paul,
Good shout on Wattie. However, on a related matter, I hear Gordon Strachan went absolutely tonto at his press conference today- shouting, screaming, banging hands on the table etc.
Apparently he was asked about Tommy Burns' health.
I have no idea what the context was, and who asked the question, but I don't think the footage will ever make air.
Were you there?
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Is anyone watching the Liverpool build up on Sky.
If so can someone answer me this, WHAT THE FECK HAS HAPPENED TO THE BEASTS HAIR????
That has to be the worst hair dye I've ever seen.
Wit a tool!!!
/p
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My dear,dear,dear friend Ed...
So you actually know what dat woid means?...
If you do... Please tell... Me!
I found it mentioned in a Chinese Fortune Cookie!
So...what da heck!... ah Took a Shot!
I am looking forward to the next meeting of our two rivals.
That game will be a Pot Boiler... ( Is that no some kind o' chicken?...ed)(As a matter of fact..it is... and by the way did I ever telllya that I prefer... BOILED CHICKEN over Roasted...any time....I didn't?.....wella ah'm telin' ye now!)
Speaking o' yer Fidus Achates...mebbe dat's a wee bit over the top...however,at least ye baith ur loyal tae the same cause...so I guess it wid qualify..sortof,. kinda?
Govanear, by name...I think..
He reads as a fine fellow,just like yer guid self.
Long may each of ye continue to dae yer best tae irritate and harry us , tae the best of yer ability... although, the paucity of material at yer disposal.in order tae complete those tasks...maks it very tough going!
Kojo
yer pal... under the prescribed and already mentioned conditions ...of course.
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Edward Ursus-
We might have a lead to claw back but I haven't seen any Celtic players produce the kind of vicious stuff alá Cousin,McCullouch,McGregor,Ferguson and Novo-
or seen The Celtic Manager assault his carer on the way to an opponents technical area.
In fact I'm sure Gordon Strachan doesn't have a carer yet.
Time to admit Walter TOTALLY lost the plot.
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The Narrowboat Tim,
What photo?
Han,
Setanta's Rob McLean commenting on Artur Boruc's recent booking versus Hibs referred to previous more sinister gestures. I thought that he should explain what he meant so I sent an email to Setanta.
Chris
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This years title decides the future for the rotten mob, and mad walt knows this better than anyone in this multi cultural one scotland utopia. I sympathise with kojo on this, we are seeing the pressure mount and his inability to handle it gives me great pleasure. If thats what he's like in public, his private behaviour must be simply, violent.
However, in this multi cultural one scotland, violence begats violence, this is exactly how riots are started, the society we live in is already institutionally sectarian, a society were glasgows shame is scotlands dirty secret. The glasgow shame is scotlands majority view on irish racism, elst why would such institutions exist in a multi cultural one scotland.
With the peace process under way in the north, the fundamentalists are seeing their power slip, they are fighting for their very existence and the rotten mob are a focus for their existence. We all like to think we live in a civilised developed nation. Yugoslavia used to think that too, I bet, mad walt getting violent in public is an example this warpped society can do without, their proven propensity for violence has been seen here and in many cities across europe, they are a very dangerous group of people and for one of their hero's to behave in such a maner will encourage others to follow.
IMO mad walt should be charged.
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Subterranean
Sorry need my eyes tested, wrong poster, time to log off
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canamalar,
Don't forget "Walter" is the type of man who thinks nothing of punching 13 year old boys.
Dignity??
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Subt
I emailed Setanta after that as well. I got a stock automated response, which I assume you did too, promising a proper answer within five working days.
The five days were up last Friday and at the end of the evening, I did get another message, this time promising to pass my question to the relevant department.
I told them that if Rob McLean's comments were a reference to Artur making the sign of the cross, then it was an outrage. If Rob McLean had something else in mind, I asked if they could find out what.
McLean will be back as though nothing had happened next weekend.
Jim White presenting our game on Sunday turned my stomach. He is as guilty of racist comments on air when he thought he was off-mic as Ron Atkinson was. The treatment of the two incidents tells us all we need to know.
Racism against Irish people doesn't count, just like sectarian comments against Catholics don't count.
Even in his parting remarks as First Minister last week, when he was a media darling for half an hour, Ian Paisley couldn't hold himself back from having a dig at the Catholic Church. No one bats an eyelid.
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Walter Smith is doing a magnificent job at Rangers.
I wish PLG was still in charge.
Also Teddy is correct.
There is more pressure on Celtic than on Rangers.
They are four points clear ,can still do a domestic treble and have over a good record in the EUFA cup since entry.
I would swap positions with them right now.
Points in the bag,and an exceptional OF record since the cardigan took over.
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Kevin Gallagher
Lastest in a long and dishonourable line of media hun sychophants
pure passion......pure permaraging hun bar steward
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narrowbhoat
if they lose this year they are facing extinction, I wouldnt be surprised if they try to take the rest of us with them.
and if it means riot, I wouldnt put it past them, they have the thugs in numbers with the mentallity to try, and the police will do what ????
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Tinytim
Winning isn't everything. Even Winningemmell isn't everything.
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tiny tim
with your consistent miserable/raging posts of late your turning into them
hells teeth i`m brassed off at the moment but calm down man
it ain`t over `til it`s over
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han solo
language please
you`ll have the men after you AGAIN
any songs for me :¬)
BTW bhoys from said "nicker" CSC were in Barca with said under garments giving said song lalldy ...so my mate told me, i was too messed to notice
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Celtic_First
I'm with you there. We have no divine right to win.
We need to take the bad with the good.
We are CELTIC Supporters.
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I assume the referees haven't threatened to strike because Smith will only get a two game ban?
Neil Lennon went bonkers at a ref didn't push him yet media and referees were wanting a 6 month ban.
Smith is and always was a bully when he felt the need.
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it may shock some of you to know this.
When i was young , Walter Smith attended chapel with my family and occassionaly took me to the jungle to watch Celtic. He never wore the hoops but made sure his lucky pope badge was on his wrangler lapel.
now, if you believe this - you will believe all the drivel the Scottish media are writing in defense of Rangers and to the detriment of Celtic.
We will shine beyond this and continue to play attractive football and use the game as a platform for enhancing the lives of others on a worldwide scale. (win lose or draw)
Rangers will NEVER boast these traditions and will finally land in the gutter from where they orginated.
UEFA are watching and the pressurised nature of the next upcoming games will expose their true identity (Walters ned exploits for starters, huns in germany and celtic games will prove too much for the rotten core support)
hail hail
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aren't we possibly being a little premature in condemning the authorities over the smith novo incidents......penalties as yet haven't been issued....the sfa committees have twice overturned decisions against our manager this season....the press have displayed their usual double standards ,but thats not a surprise and it's better to laugh at these people than to get angry at them... the highlight for me was when keevins accused callers to his radio show of trying to get people into culture, of being part of the blame culture. The irony of this coming from a man who makes his living from the tabloids, who's whole modus operandi is to creat controversy and finger point, was breathtaking.....
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canamalar
My bad eyesight must be contagious on this blog, I think your post was meant for someone's else cause I haven't a clue what your post is about, I gather it is the huns you are writing about. If it is the Huns you are talking about, I do not think they will go into extinction mainly for the facts that we tend to exaggerate their financial situation and more importantly the Scottish establishment will not allow the Huns to go the way of the DoDo or Third Lanark, they will say it is for the good of Scottish Football to rescue them but they would allow us to go under and it would of happen except fot the Blessed Bunnett.
And if they want to riot this the only Riot I'm interested in, 150 seconds of pure dynamite.
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The match commander should have charge el cardo with a breach of the peace .
if his conduct was not liable to upset /annoy the leiges then i`m having a go at McCurry in a similar fashion on wed night .
a word to all
if the rev McC stars his usual on wed we should get right after him
dirty cheating bar steward
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Artur Boruc
Nothing provocative about this clip.
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Maybe it is just me but I cannot believe that everyone is getting their knickers in a twist with Watty Gate!!!
The guy lost the plot and did something that he shouldn't have but actually admitted that he was wrong after the game and that his player should have been sent off.
Granted, he should not have pushed the 4th official but it is not the first time that this has happened as he was more interested in having a pop at the Hibs bench.
I am not here to defend him whatsoever but...a reality check is needed people..
Gordon was done for the totting up system and then had it reduced..although I am still mystified with the ban from Pittodrie.
Neil Lennon physically put himself in the firing line with Dougall and deserved his penalty of a 3 game ban..but Watty's anger was completely concentrated elsewhere.
Let's move on and concentrate on winning the league..
That.....is the real prize...
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Kojo, aye, Mr Smith goes to pot.
HHBhoy, cheers.
Italiabhoy, no I was not there today, but after STV’s ‘previous’, I don’t think we will see a youtube repeat.
Celtic First, yes, I noticed the parting shot from the First Minister.
Han Solo, deleted, it’s raining heavy.
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discybhoy
it`s the lack of parity that is vexing everyone
in it`s self his actions are bad enough but it`s the lack of condemnation that`s bursting everyone
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Tommy twists Tommy turns, my thoughts are with you and yours at this time.
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pfayr-
you grassed me up.
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pfayr,
Absolutely understand but...when you let them see that you have succumbed to the reaction that they wanted to see then they have won but don't give them the satisfaction...rise above it, the time will come....
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han solo
so what ...ootside ...had enough of yer swearing and rude songs :¬)
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Discybhoy
"Neil Lennon physically put himself in the firing line with Dougall and deserved his penalty of a 3 game ban..but Watty's anger was completely concentrated elsewhere."
Wattie physically put himself in the firing line by ignoring an attempt by the 4th official to stand in his way. When the official persisted, he put both hands on him and pushed him out of the road.
Why should the fact he was angry at a Hibs employee excuse his aggression toward an official?
Try using that excuse on the polis if you push the officer out of the way to get at the object of your ire.
I'm mystified by the reason why WGS was banned for pittodrie. I'm also mystified by the ban for the Neil McCann incident. Maybe reverting to a paranoid explanation would clear up my mystification.
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discybhoy
fair enough
but i don`t give a jot what the rotten mob think of me/us
as it`s will be difficult for them to mistreat us more than they do already
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discybhoy
el cardo committd a B O P ...he should have been arrested
he was swearing and abusing the Hibs manager and other Hibs staff , he assaulted the 4th official and he failed to desist when told to do so by the polis and the ref/4th official
how do you think WGS would get on behaving like that ?
his actions were disgraceful/reprehensible/risible and plain WRONG
he should get carpeted ..but he won`t as he`s one of the peeeeple
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yer right narrowbhoat,
it was a response to Gordon J, and I can agree the establishment will give them a lifeline, but establishment is shifting and will soon have to distance themselves to be taken seriously, as europe takes over.
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Sir Paul...
As ever...you are the Master o' the Slick Phrase...da Bon Mot...( Whit? is dat a Zinger?..ed)( Keep oot o' dis,pal..it's way over yer heid!)
"Mr.Smith goes to Pot!"
I see...let's see...
Victor McLaglen or... Na!... who aboot Lon Chaney?.. yes!Him or, should that be he?...
would suit the part.
Definitely, No COOP..he already went tae the other place!
I like it, I likey..
D'ye mind if I knock oot Screen Play on dat piece o' rich material dat you have provided,and submit it for y'ere approval,efter yer usual perusal?
Ye don't?
Good.
Kojo.
Hivin' bit o'fun
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BarcaBhoy
Was one of the overturned decisions not overturned in court, not by the SFA (prompting a hissy fit from the honest reverend).
Bobo is a must for Ibrox by the way, he will reduce the threat of their standard outball when there midfield doesnt play well.
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My precious Burberry Cardigan. How art though after the verbal assualts from the intolerant Eastenders. You rightly back your own and I for one will make sure my press do not have a bad word to say about you.
Sacasim over.
Something else that has been missed, even on here, is the fact that Putmalineon actually requested a High Ranking member of the constabulary to control the Burberry Cardigan but was swiftly thrown a deefy. I wonder why? Anyone?
Re. Bobo, +'s/-'ves for Celtic Huns games to follow. Bobo for me is a liability unless he has a strong controling influential centre half along side him. Unfortunately at this time we do not have that charachter in our armoury.
As for Gary Caldwell, this man shirt is far too large for him. He was a liability when he played for hibs and is a liability playing for us. His game on the ground is generally OK but he is always liable to make a mistake in every single game that puts us under pressure with a stray pass. His game in the air is dreadful as he tends to head the ball straight up in the air towards the centre of the D on most occassions dropping in the most dangerous area of the field as far as we are concerned.
my choice would be O,Dea. On the Occasions this Bhoy has played CH he has never put a foot out of line. He is strong, fast and determined to win every challenge he enters into. This Bhoy must be played.
Saying all this I will give 100% support to whomever plays, most likely GC, when we line up against the huns but my heart will spend most of it's time in my mouth when he is on the ball or enters into an arial challenge.
C'mon the hoops.
Onwards and upwards to 3-in-a-row.
Hail Hail.
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hooptastic
one was an appeal to a high court judge
it was S Dougal who was the MIB not the right rev MC
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StevieS,
You got mail,
Martin.
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Oldtim,
Where are you this weather?
Everything OK?
Martin
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pfayr
Your absolutely right mate, always get those 2 mixed up.
Moonbeams Wet Dream
If big Mic wasnt captain my centre halfs would be O Dea and Balde. One is strong quick determined, good on the ball and rarely gives it away (see Milan away). Also I feel that given time he could become that commanding centre half we need.
We all know about Baldes strengths and weaknesses, however as everyone has said the game will be lost in the middle. If we are winning in the middle then they will pump balls forward for Darcheville, Cousin or to McCulloch out wide. Balde will win anything that comes near him and is also quick himself. I think the 2 would compliment each other well. However thats irrelevant as your right, it will probably be Mick and Caldwell.
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My dear friend, Moonbeam..@21.57.
You are correctomundo... Bobo is not the answer to our toils and troubles.
I agree completely and without reservations, in your selection of Mr. O'Dea as a member of the permanent C.B. pairing.
Howevvvvvvah...
I emphatically disagree with your low opinion of Gary Caldwell.
As a matter of record, I am a fervent supporter of Gary, whom I unreservedly propose is the better choice in over all performancewise, of our our present two C.B.s
I like him, I like him, I like him!
Mr. McManus I do not like, at all , at all, at all.
My choice for a permanent pairing... if I were King... is
Messrs. O'Dea and Cuthbert.
No question.
However, as I am far from likely, to be crowned, in the near or even far distant future...
I will settle for the Duo ...of...
Caldwell and O'Dea.
Kojo.
yer pal...who likes ye.
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STFB,
You misinterpret me, I said that his anger was concentrated elsewhere..not towards the 4th official.
There is a difference..the police will arrest you for breach of the peace if they believe that they have no alternative...that is the steer.
I agree with you re: Pittodrie & Neil McCann but WGS is doing the talking and highlighting it...remember he is not born of our ilk but is seeing the light...this is what will bring this to the fore, not you or I
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Darren O'Dea has talent but he needs about a year on Gregory Dupont's speed machine before he's even half the player we need him to be.
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discybhoy
" the police will arrest you for a breach of the peace if they believe they have no alternative "
sorry pal ...wrong
it often depends more on who the perpetrator is as opposed to their actions
as the perp here is el cardo....surprise surprise nothing is done
consider this against the treatment of artur ....says it all
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TMC
Agreed O Dea does have talent, however I think he needs bulked up rather than a speed improvement. He does look a bit lightweight for a 6ft centre half.
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Moonbeams Wet Dream
I have to take issue with your assessment of young O'Dea. Whatever his qualities, and he has many for one so young, being "fast" is not one of them. Although I generally admire this young player his lack of pace concerns me greatly and unless he can do a McGeady will ultimately lead to him failing to make the grade. His partner in the reserves and youth teams, Scott Cuthbert, has the required speed however and may be a better long term bet.
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pfayr,
Wrong....
Know this to be true so draw your own conclusion..
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bhoys
there is no point in debating who will be at CB for the remainder of the season
barring injury it will be the captain and "the great team mate "
WGS said on the radio on Sunday after the game that he thought that GC had a great game .............WTF ....niether of our CB`s could win a header in their own box and GC was at his masterful best passing out of defence
IMO these two jokers,together with the ever present Naylor and often played Donati are our achilles heel ....the manager can`t see it though
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discybhoy
i deal with it daily may man
in fact i have dealt with hundreds if not thousands of instances where arrest is nowhere near the last resort , often the first resort depending on the perpetrator
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Methinks we doth protest too much !
I am surprised that we are surprised.
There are few of us naive enough to NOT know the rules of the game by now.
We spend much of our lives stating that we are discriminated against.
Then, when we feel that Walter's wee tantrum is being glossed over, we act SURPRISED.
There is NO story here.
It is simply business as usual.
Plus ca change,..plus c'est la meme chose.
We have far more serious issues to concern us at this particular time...bigger fish to fry.
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Footnote on our useless media:
As if not reporting the full Smith goes potty story isn't bad enough.
They are now making him out to be a national hero because he is not contesting the the decision to ban him for merely two matches. Even although it is totally indefensible.
Nothing more than we should expected from Murrays useless media mongrels as they as the same lot that crowned H Dallas the best ref in the world after he hand delivered a title to the gers at CP. If you remember up until the moment Dallas was just another ref. He is still making a living of that game as an After Dinner Speaker.
So don't expect any "Potty Walter" headlines. However if Celts make it 3 in 3 Smith's will surely go completely blonkers.
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Just managed to comandeer the pooter. Haven't read all the posts yet but BazzaBhoy @12.43 I'll be chuckling for hours at your rant. Can I give you a piece of advice? Don't sugarcoat it man, say what's on your mind!
Hail! Hail!
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Kojo,
I have noted your support of GC in the past. But for me he has to be one of the worst CH's to wear the hoops. I was disappointed when we signed him and even more disappointed watching him in the following 5mths after he signed for us playing for the Green Bibs in the East. I would have ripped his contract up during this period with the amount of goals he cost Hibs in that 5mth period.
In the SPL he generally gets away with his mistakes due to the lask of quality on display and the heroics of our Artur. In the CL he is way out his depth on all occasions and has proven to be a liability in most of these games.
McManus should never be our captain as he is not vocal enough and does not have enough experience but he is by far a better CH that GC. Sunday apart how many basic mistakes does McManus make? He can be a bit rash in the challenge but at least we get the opportunity to defend the free kicks he gives away. With GC only Artur is left to defend his mistakes.
thismancraig,Andycolo,
maybe he just looks fast too me in comparison to GC and McManus.
I cannot comment on uthbertson unfortunately as I have not seen much of this Bhoy.
Pfayr,
we know that but CQN is an outlet for my frustrations and adulations.
Talking about adulations. When are we going to give some to Scott McDonald. 25 goals in his 1st season the bhoy is certainly due some yet at most games I still only hear songs for Samaras, JVOH.
Time to come up with a song for the bhoy, me thinks.
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Right thats it, minds made up. Hard as its going to be I am going out to the pub to support the huns tomorrow.
I am hoping they beat werder (my wee pal from gecko bar wont be pleased), and clock up the air miles , the game minutes and the tiredness. That should level the field a bit. When they have the establishment on their side in a close run comp then they are a real problem. Let them cope with something the establishment cant help them with, fixture exhaustion.
Come on the ??, Still cant quite force myself to say it. Come on and play loads mair games that knackers yees, the gers.
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I've sussed it !
'Come the fixture congestion !' will be my chant in a soooside boozer the morra !
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nae bread,
I'd prefer to see them destrotyed in germany come back to scotland embarassed and lose the final on sunday, I think they would be demoralised and it would herald their doom this year.
oh that would give me a warm glow
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Football tonight:
Liverpool progress to last 8 of Champions League by recording another English victory in the San Siro. More impressively out of 8 Round of 16 matches the 4 English sides recorded 5 wins 3 draws NO defeats!
However the real excitement was in English League Div 1.
Where Carlisle United closed the gap on run away league leaders, Swansea to 7 points with the Welsh club still to visit Cumbria, by recording a 2-1 victory over Luton. Doncaster Rovers also continued their good run with another win.
While sleeping giants Forest and Leeds suffered further setbacks. With Leeds now out of the play off slots.
Gretna P St Mirren P
If nothing else this should put an end to SPL ground sharing arrangements.
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We seem to have forgetten that we have a game tomorrow. And a very important one at that.
Win every game and we're the Champions again.
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11/03/08 23:20, Blogger canamalar.
Well. now you mention it whatever happens tomorrow could be looked on as a win / win!
Come on the fixture Congestion And Or Pumpin !
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Kojo, like your Mastercard invites, your script is preapproved.
Nae Bread, I will be surprised if Rangers are eliminated on Thursday, but I hope they lose on the night.
Time to upset the rhythm.
EDB, yes, the most important game we have played in 10 days.
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Despite the presence of THREE ex-celts Norwich lost to Stoke tonight.
Young David caught in two minds at a long throw ....
Actually I'm very pleased - I'm not really Delia Smith you know.
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P67 , genius !
So they can get beat 1-0 and still go through - good enough, that will do !
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Kojo :- I would like to say that like yourself I sometimes use words that I'm not to sure on but I have a sneaking suspicion that you are the type of bloke who is almost a 100% sure before he releases anything. The past couple of seasons I may have agreed about my paucity of possible posting but this season I think there is a distinct lack of paucity from my side.
E.U Your pal till the sun grows cold or Celtic win a game against us, which ever comes sooner :-)
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You know something that strikes me about wattenaccio 4-5-1 is that the other team do all the running its a long term boring footy game.
Barca , with their crisp and fast passing really stretched us, did they stretch der hun as much? or was der hun content to sit mostly in its own hald in a damage limitation minimun expenditure stylee?
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My dear,dear, friend... Moonbeam,
You have made yourself perfectly clear.
You do not like Mr. Caldwell.
As you know we live in a woild that is subject to the theory of Mr.Einstein.
Therefore, when I say that I like Mr. Caldwell,in fact when I say that I like ....ANYONE, or ANYTHING... it is patently understood, that there is a silent rider or codicil not mentioned, which, nevertheless, should always be used as a measure, against one's stated like...or ...dislike...as the case may be or not be.
That codicil being, as you well know...is...
Relative to whom?
In the case of Mr.Caldwell.... I believe that he is a far better C.B. than either of the following:
Mr.Presley, Mr. McManus, Mr.Bobo...
He is not a better C.B. than either Mr. O'Dea nor Mr. Cuthbert.
I have alerted you to the way that I have arrived at my favoured choice of C.B.
Many people, I believe... do not think the way that I do... in fact..check that... Only a few People think the same way as I do.
Therefore, it does no harm if I inform my readers as to how I reached my conclusion, as to why I happen to like.... so and so....
In this case Mr.Caldwell.
As a C.B., there is no doubt that Mr. Caldwell has quite a number of failings.
He is far,far of being an ideal example of what an ideal C.B. should be.
But ....here is where the Howveeeevvvah comes in...
Howevah....
COMPARED TO WHAT CELTIC HAVE ON DISPLAY... in that particular Position ... in situ...
I would select Mr.Caldwell as an ever present in the starting C.B. position...and of course it follows...
I would never select...any of the following.....
Mr.Presley, Mr.McManus or Mr. Bobo.
Kojo.
yer pal...who thinks yer swell.... and that statement is relative ...(in case ye wondered!)
TO Nearly, EVERYBOADY else!
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HansSolo :- You seem to have went of on a tangent to my point, so it's a hard one for me to argue. However I will say that where I condem any abuse and foul play I will always back the type of player who can snarl and fight his way through a game, perhaps if you had one of the same ilk you wouldn't be four points behind.
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Bazza... err... thanks for that! Nice to know you hate everything about me, except me as it were! ;-) Point taken though.
U2 1888 - cheers mate, and points and examples well used.
Edward... thanks for the wee heads up last night.
For every example of an unjust booking given/not given this year and in previous years you could give, I could do likewise as, as I mentioned last night, you tend to notice those given against you more than for you. It is the inconsistencies of some of these decisions by referees which need ironed out rather than any form of bias. Cousin should have been booked as he ran into the crowd after scoring v Gretna. Ferguson shouldn't have been booked as, whilst he did cross over the line of the pitch it was not an attempt to 'leave the field of play'. If you watch that celebration he wheels round at the Copland Rd end and slightly comes off of the lines of the pitch and runs towards the Rangers dugout. The McDonald decision re him being booked was ridiculous. Poor decision by the ref.
For every offside goal scored by Hartson in a league cup final (03) that wasn't offside, you get a throw in taken by Aitken that was actually a Rangers throw that led to Joe Miller scoring the winner in the cup final.
My point is this; Celtic are a huge club. Bigger than us worldwide, albeit the general 'consensus' seems to be that Rangers are more popular in this country. Who knows and you will never get a true measurement of size (stop sniggering at the back!), but surely if there is some sort of an agenda by those in favour of Rangers wouldn't this be 'evened up' by those who have a natural allegiance to Celtic?
What press both clubs get is pretty feckless tbh, because ultimately it makes no difference to the results on the pitch, unless I am missing something. Again you could argue till you were blue in the face about who has more press in their favour. But for every Daryll King you get a Ronnie Cuilly (sp?). For every Anthony Haggerty you get a Keith Jackson.
I know I will never agree with some of you guys about this sort of thing as we both view through those different specs I spoke about last night. But I just think it is sometimes easier for fans to blame something other than that their side was beaten. Like I say we have more than enough of them; if some of what people tell me is said on Follow Follow is true. If one team has some supporters in important positions then surely by the same logic A N Other big team must also have supporters in these positions.
Anyway, Family Guy is on so feck this for a game o sodjers!
awrabest guys, and thanks again for the welcomes and stuff. I trust Rangers can count on your support on Thursday... Ok Ok I will get my coat!
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Ooooh Ed,
You know what they say about pride coming before a fall?
Remember Ecks unbeaten in 5 matches against us?
Remember the follow-up?
Something to do with 7 wins-in-a-row???
You may well rue the night you typed those words......I for one won't forget oh blue-nosed one :-)
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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EDB
The next 3 r vital 2 3in3.
Win them and we go to matchbox ahead. If the lads want it as bad as us they will win these games.
Apply the pressure lhads and send Smith potty.
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11/03/08 23:58, Blogger EdwardUrsus
You are spot on there Eddie. I don't think Novo's challenge was fair, I havent liked the boy for a good while (the butt kick at Macnamara, Pearsons Neck, the butt kick at the hibs boy last season + a few others) but I find myself agreeing with the tough play of a lot of your other team players. Chris Sutton was no angel !, Neil Lennon let you know he was about!
We lack that bite big time, but I also wonder that if we still possessed it would we be allowed the same use of it that your team is?
I still can not get my head around 9 yellow cards at ibrox for a team who is always up there with fairplay at the end of the season? 9 Cards, one game?
How many dangerous challenges was that? How many worse than Barry Fergusson manhandling of Macguires throat and quite forecefull push on andother aberdeen player earlier in the same game meriting no caution?
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TheTokenTim ;- I'm afraid that's the drawback of net sites, once you state your position it's there on record with no wriggle room, but it would be a very boring world if we weren't prepared to put our views up front and then try to defend them :-)
