TITLE: Celtic ignore Rangers play again at their peril on Sunday
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 4/24/2008 03:54:00 PM
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BODY:
Last week in my, How to beat Rangers, part one, article, I told you how Rangers score goals by winning the second ball. They surge forward leaving defenders who were marking up for the first ball having to cope with players who seem to arrive out of nowhere.
Celtic lost a goal to this move last week which could have had dire consequences for their league challenge.
Rangers’ adrenalin moment was when Mark Wilson won his challenge against Nacho Novo. Steven Whittaker pounced forward to collect the loose ball (after Wilson won the initial challenge) while Novo spun and raced into space.
It was a text book goal that caught the Celtic defence, midfield and goalkeeper off guard.
Despite dominating the game until that point, Celtic were back on level terms and Rangers reinvigorated.
I don’t expect Sunday’s game to start the same way as last week’s. Rangers got it all wrong in the first half last week and will come with a different shape this time, so despite playing very well, I think Celtic will need to improve in a number of key areas if they are to win on Sunday.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Blindlemonchitlin'
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 15:55
COMMENT-BODY:First?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: MuppetBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 15:56
COMMENT-BODY:Tonights its the Flute vs hte Viola
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: danny
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 15:57
COMMENT-BODY:No 2 games are ever the same.
Goals, we need goals.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio Nacional
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:06
COMMENT-BODY:Forza Viola.
Chianti Football v anti football.
Im going to try and watch them for the first time in Europe for a long time. Sound muted of course.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Didas sore face
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:07
COMMENT-BODY:Tony Bannanas
Re your post refernceing the Alan Brazil your right there is no need whatsoever to highlight that sort of suffering.
Re your post refrencing the Evertons fans warning to Ra****s fans. I expected this sort of pre-emptive story. Reputations do proceed you going to these places and they don't mess about. As I also said they will complain at their treatment and aportion it to a "minority of our travelling support reacting to over-enthusiatic and aggressive policing"
It's a stick on
Dida
Hail! Hail!
Ps Stevie S I did laugh but I hope the mans alive and well
Lurgen53 I prefered the first one, however I thought the second one class as well!!
C'mon The Hoops!!!!
Flourish Fiorentina!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: StevieS
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:18
COMMENT-BODY:didas sore face,
Of course we all hope he is fine and well. (sort of goes without saying really)
But that paragraph was a classic :-)
Big moral-sapping defeat tonight please.
Ciao
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: St-Gris
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:18
COMMENT-BODY:With WGS stating thats its hard to change a winning team.
Will Donati and Balde keep their places?
Will GC be in at Right back if Hinkel doesnt make it?
2 days of questions to go and my heids awready burstin.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:19
COMMENT-BODY:From last post
Mr Bananas @ 15.40
Not only do they drag up what had happen to him in the past but they add this "Alcoholic Brazil was sacked by the station" just because he likes a drink doesn't mean he's an alcholic. Sleazy journalism labelling him like that.
I was wondering why he wasn't on the air yesterday.
Off to the pub myself now.
Mon the Hoops
Celtic 3 Huns 0 on Sunday
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TrueTim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:25
COMMENT-BODY:Good point Paul - Rangers will approach this different and look to impose themselves early on.
On the other hand - I think we should capture evertything we done and add to it, aiming to be 2-0 up by half time.
We need to attack again - shoot on site, take chances and play percentage, andrenalin filled football.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:25
COMMENT-BODY:Paul,
That's why I believe that Bobo can't play on Sunday. I've never known another player to win so many headers comfortably, but knock them straight down to an opposition player.
Perfect example was Severin's snapshot double-poster. If I was Herr Schmidt and Bobo was playing I'd be saying to my keeper and defenders to launch it long, leave Bobo unchallenged and he'll knock it down to the onrushing central midfield 7 times out of 10.
He usually drags himself out of position with those tall-building-clearing leaps, so when the 2nd ball becomes an attack we really feel it.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: inkybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:34
COMMENT-BODY:Hail, hail
RE Alan Brazil.
The two aspects of Brazil's life that have been highlighted are matters that he himself wrote about at length in his autobiography which was serialised in the Daily Record.
It's not a case of the Record trying to smear a high profile Celtic fan before a match against Rangers, and It doesn't in any way reference directly any chants or campaigns being waged by Rangers fans against Scotland's greatest football manager
It just a matter of public record and matters that Brazil has brought into the public domain himself.
Sometimes you do need to accept that certain things will written about people, no matter how highly you regard them, as background, information which presents a fuller picture of individuals who are in the public eye.
I've spoken to Brazil and he is genuinely a Celtic fan and a good guy, and has absolutely no time for Rangers so...
STANDING UP..just like Alan Brazil will be on Sunday, and everybody else for that matter
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ticketyboo
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:35
COMMENT-BODY:This time I would play
Naka on the left.
Aiden on the right.
Hit the bye line and hit LOW balls in.
DO NOT let Naka & Aiden cut inside this only forces them into traffic
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Battered Bunnet
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:41
COMMENT-BODY:Too true Paul.
The very same thing happened twice against Aberdeen at the weekend.
The first was Severin's attempt that hit both posts, the second the incident that led to Diamond 'scoring' at the end after the whistle was blown.
Damned lucky Celtic. Maybe too damned lucky. Lets trust that WGS is sorting it out this week.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Collie
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:41
COMMENT-BODY:Paul
Der's Inspiration and Dedication,
and Up an' At 'Em,tae!
Der's Gie 'em Laldy and "get intae 'em Balde!"
An' get Tore intae da Fray!
But, awe dis Tension, dat ah Mention,
Disnae amount tae a Hill o'Beans!
Fur it's Goals dat Count!
In nae small Amount...
Dat'll satisfy oor Dreams!
Oan Sunday Next, we needa Fix,
Frae da Dearth o' Goals, we Suffer,
We need tae Break... Fast!... oot da Gate,
An' show 'em we ur Tougher!
Nae Quarter Gien, Nae Quarter Asked,
Tae show Fear, wid be Folly,
We needa a Treat 'Em, tae a Lickin',
like They wur made o' Sugar Olly!
collie
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Lennondinho18
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:43
COMMENT-BODY:Forza Viola
Oooooooooooooooooooh Artur Boruc
Vieri Last scorer (8-1)
I'm having some of that
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tic Talk
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:51
COMMENT-BODY:Inkybhoy,
You are right in what you say but I feel that there is no need for anyone on this site to defend The Record.They ARE very pro Der Hun and if someone on here occasionally criticises them unfairly then leave it be. The end result is not altered ie it is more important to reinforce our views abour their bias than it is to defend a rag that does not deserve any defence.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:54
COMMENT-BODY:I disagree with Chick Young's views on alcohol at football matches (well that's not a surprise):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/7364906.stm
I'm firmly of the belief that if you treat adults like children then they're more likely to act like children. Furthermore, just because the fans are not drinking in the stadium it does not mean they aren't drinking on the way there or afterwards. One argument which I think does hold some resonance is that because they are unable to drink at the stadium I feel they are more likely to throw back the pints in the pub beforehand to compensate. It is the same principle as people drinking more around last orders at a bar. He cites the people that threw the missiles as a reason why alcohol should not be served but it is likely that those people already had a drink in them, just because they aren’t drinking in the stadium doesn’t mean they haven’t been drinking. There are also crowd control issues which arise from people arriving late; if people were filtering into the stadium at a steady rate and having a drink at the bar beforehand then it would be easier for the police to control rather than 60,000 people trying to get into the stadium in the space of five minutes. I think that if alcohol is being served on the premises then it would be easier to monitor potential troublemakers.
Let’s face it if alcohol was served in the stadium it is likely that it would be sold at an extortionate price, be lower strength lager, and probably watered down. We’re not talking about ten pints in the stadium before and after the game, people will likely arrive half an hour before at the most have a pint or two at most throughout the game. It would be impossible to get drunk in the stadium as you’d sober up in the long queue delays. A policy could be introduced also which restricts the serving of alcohol to people who are drunk.
It might also help post match if people were allowed to stay for half an hour and have a drink. People would be less inclined to leave 5 minutes early to beat the rush with a steady departure rather than the stampede which we have right now.
On a side not, I’m annoyed that he has brought up the issue of missiles being thrown at the match but has only went on to comment on the missiles thrown from Celtic fans with no mention of potatoes being thrown at the players. Correct me if I’m wrong but there was some things being thrown by Rangers fans at Ibrox as well weren’t there?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 16:57
COMMENT-BODY:ticketyboo
Don't forget Nakamura's sweet goal and our penalty came from Nakamura cutting inside. Plus I did enjoy McGeady up against Broadfoot. I'd go with the same line up once against with the possibility of maybe Samaras starting for Scott.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:00
COMMENT-BODY:Go On Collie
Perfect poetic prose
A sumptuous summery summation
Positive Phrasing about us only now please
There's no point having a funeral until we have something to bury
Forza Celtic!
U
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tic Talk
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:06
COMMENT-BODY:Many thanks for your email regarding the racist banners at the recent Rangers FC game. We have received numerous emails on this matter.
Show Racism the Red Card is of the opinion that certain sections of the Rangers support were acting in a racist nature. We condemn all forms racism.
We are currently in talks with Rangers Football Club to address this issue and we are also pursuing the matter with the Scottish Premier League and the Scottish Football Association. We will keep you informed of our progress.
With your support we will continue to challenge all forms of racism in Scotland and I call upon you to continue reporting racist incidents to Show Racism the Red Card.
Thanking you for your support.
Show Racism the Red Card
That was the reply I received after emailing concerning Naka abuse and Famine`s Over Hun Humour
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ian_in_budapest
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:09
COMMENT-BODY:At 24/04/08 16:25, Stuart said…
Stuart, I was beginning to wonder if I was the only person who had noticed this aspect of Balde's play. I'm truly amazed at how far people will go to justify the inclusion of the big man in this Celtic side - like ignoring his faults. I actually like Balde a great deal and I love having him in the side for winning the first ball but you nailed this perfectly with your point about him continually firing the ball straight back to the opposition.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Cadizzy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:19
COMMENT-BODY:bhoy sean, if they start selling booze in the ground, let's hope they find a different sponsor!
We could let Carling do the away games only and we could have guest sponsors every second week for the home games. (WinningGemmell will have plenty of suggestions).
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Parkheadcumsalford
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:22
COMMENT-BODY:I don't think even Bobo's biggest supporter would deny his weaknesses. To most of us,however, he is more commanding than either of our CDs when high balls come into the box. Personally, I would rather have him and GC as the main pairing but it is not going to happen since our manager obviously prefers our captain to anyone else.
That goal that Paul highlights came from a move which I feel not only Rangers punish us with. Most teams do, at least once a game.
Forza Fiorentina and WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:23
COMMENT-BODY:Bhoy Sean, agree completely. Surely celtic would enjoy the revenue boost of having the fans in the ground for an extra hour. Put in a couple of decent food outlets and I'll come for Lunch before the game.
Time before last I was in the home end at the Camp Neu, I think barca rent space to an eclectic collection of food / drink sellers. The variety is excellent as is the quality, and the club isn't becoming a catering business.
I think British law has a strange relationship with alcohol. Being hammered seems to be considered a mitigating factor in sentencing; I think it should be an aggravating factor. Then we can hammer the people who commit crimes when drunk, rather tahn the 58900 of us who enjoy a beer with our football.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:25
COMMENT-BODY:Sorry, posted to wrong piece again...
Excuse another long cut and paste job but surely the SFA must be in danger of suspension from FIFA, having failed to act on the Boruc & Nakamura banners and the "famine's over" song.
"Decision of the FIFA Executive Committee
meeting No. 18
Zurich, 16 and 17 March 2006
Amendment to article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code
Par. 1: Anyone who publicly disparages, discriminates against or denigrates someone in a defamatory manner on account of face, colour, language, religion or ethnic origin, or perpetrates any other racist and/or contemptuous act, will be subject to match suspension for at least five matches at every level. Furthermore, a stadium ban and a fine of at least CHF 20,000 will be imposed on the perpetrator. If the perpetrator is an official, the fine will be at least CHF 30,000.
Par. 2: If spectators display banners bearing racist slogans, or are guilty of any other racist and/or contemptuous behaviour at a match, the appropriate body will impose a sanction of at least CHF 30,000 on the association or club that the spectators concerned support and force it to play its next official match without spectators. If the spectators cannot be identified as supporters of one or the other association or club, the host association or club will be sanctioned accordingly.
Par. 3: Any spectator who is guilty of any of the offences specified under par. 1 and/or 2 of this article will be banned from entering any stadium for at least two years.
Par. 4: If any player, association or club official or spectator perpetrates any kind of racist or contemptuous act as described by par. 1 and/or 2 of this article, three points will automatically be deducted from the team concerned, if identifiable, after the first offence. In the case of a second offence, six points will automatically be deducted, and for a further offence, the team will be relegated.
In the case of matches without points, the team concerned, if identifiable, will be disqualified.
Par. 5: The confederations and associations are required to incorporate the provisions of this article in their statutes and to enforce the sanctions stipulated. If any association infringes this article, it will be excluded from international football for two years."
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:28
COMMENT-BODY:TrueTim, aye, thanks :-)
Stuart, without wanting to get into the whole Bobo debate, I know what you mean.
Collie, your verse is very true. Goals have been too scarce for my liking.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:30
COMMENT-BODY:1 star, that's pretty clear, and doesn't leave any wriggle room.
Problem is I's imagine the Gordon Smith hasn't read it.
By my counting, under paragraph 4, we won the league last September.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 17:36
COMMENT-BODY:Ian in Budapest, when we had Lenny in the holding role, he mopped up a lot of Bobo's headers, and snuffed out opposition attacks before they got started. Without a player like Neil, Bobo's a liability. No one (in the world IMHO) wins the first ball like he does, but sometime's that's not enough.
That said I'd be overjoyed to see him play against Mcculloch for a half.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 18:22
COMMENT-BODY:Cadizzy
If it was Carling that was sold in the ground then that should alleviate some of the doubters concerns. How anyone could get drunk by drinking murky water is a mystery to me ;-)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Collie
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 18:39
COMMENT-BODY:Ulysses McGhee
Two Cheers tae ye!... Heck!
Mak it Three!... or mebbe Four or Five!
Fur they're oor Joys...we must support da Bhoys... an dat's no talkin' Jive!
The Celts we Luv 'em... oor Bonnie Bhoys...whose Winning maks oor day,
We'll Support them thru der Ups an' Doons...
Frum Them, we'll never stray!
An' dis year we wull WIN, the League...
Athough, we left it late...
But We'll awe be there, when May runs oot...
Tae Dance and Celebrate!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 18:40
COMMENT-BODY:Herr Paul,and associated contributors.
Permit me to ramble for a minute(as opposed to my usual posts).
Herr Paul
Perhaps a strategy whilst mein blogger is, at the very least,messing with your programme,would be to release a wee bit of pressure on yourself.
And perhaps lift a comment or two from contributors,and plant them(sorry,post them) for discussion?
Perhaps 2 per day for 100 comments or so,(or 150 if Pablo is in a musical mood)and perhaps assign another universe somewhere for chat aboot fashion and beer prices?(nae offence to Prada followers and "the clique")
I know you like to allow everything,apart from people with differing ideas about vocabulary,and it's uses from yourself("foul" and "bad" language).
So why not post a few "posts"from comments who deserve to be heard?
The last thing we want to see is burnout.
You have always been at your best when you have had time to post things about the "non-news" side of Celtic.
Well looked into,provocative(to a lot of people),and thought provoking.
The retorts,arguments,statements,raging fights,and everything else made what you have now.
But it was different fights!!!
We were all fighting about things we had never discussed before.
Save yoursel Paul.
We need better input,if a lot less frequently.
Even Sean South "plagiarises"
Dae youself a favour,pick out some other people's stuff for discussion,whilst this garbage is going on with blogger.
You decide the topic anyway.
Say who posted it and that's the end of it.
You have done it with me often enough.
It isn't a criticism of yourself.
Just that less quantity,more time would be good.
As,in the past.it has been proven incontrovertably,to be true.
Take some other people's work,and allow discussion on it.
We all have families.
Take a breather and watch us winning the league.
You will remember that better than any article you have to write after 199 comments.
Except the one on the last day of the season of course.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 18:43
COMMENT-BODY:In fact
,
Paul,
just shut the whole thing down until you get a host that takes posts before the fifth bloody try.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:01
COMMENT-BODY:A wee question which is the first part of a two-part query. I would particularly welcome response from those who think Wattie was underestimated by many on CQN and by those of a mineshafter persuasion.
Here it is:-
Which is the more worthy achievement: reaching the last 16 of the CL or reaching the semi finals of the Uefa Cup?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:01
COMMENT-BODY:Can someone tell me what is "racist" about the Rangers fans singing"The famine's over,why don't you go home"?
I actually found it quite a funny song to sing at us!!
Unlike the "Nakamura ate my dog" song.
This just made me cringe for them,not because it was racist,but because it showed them up for the cretins that they are,by their ignorance of both Geography,and Culture in regards to that song.
Please,if someone can tell me what is so offensive about both of these,as opposed to us booing Deco every time he plays against us.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dick Byrne
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:07
COMMENT-BODY:kano,
I see you've been hiding your light under a bushel all this time...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:08
COMMENT-BODY:Cuellar made me laugh
"It's incredible that our own league can make things so difficult for us when we are trying to represent Scotland in Europe. This would not happen anywhere else. The situation is crazy. I can't believe how things work in this country."
Indeed, it wouldn't6 happen in any other country
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Fighting Irish
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:08
COMMENT-BODY:Kano - please refer to the Irish Holocaust
www.irishholocaust.org
Famine / Holocaust, call it what like. It is rascist
The Fighting Irish - yer friend who likes ye
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: DublinBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:08
COMMENT-BODY:Kano,
I'm sure the knuckle draggers will be delighted to hear that someone other than their own manky support found the song funny...I certainly didn't!
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Collie
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:09
COMMENT-BODY:Kano @1840
Kano,Kano.... whit's yer Beef...?
Whit's wrang wi' you the day?
Yer,aye sae bright and breezy...
Did sumwan steal yer Chittlin's...
Afore, ye could even taste 'em?... an' then they ran away?
Come oan ma man!... come doon tae earth, and let's hear yer usual craic,
Which aye was well worth listenin' tae,
and discuss the Points ye make.....!
collie.
Tail's Awaggin', Awaggin'
as yer
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:20
COMMENT-BODY:Deco is booed because he is a cheating, diving wee so and so. It has nothing to do with his race or nationality.
The Famine song was clearly aimed at the Irish, and was from the protestant supremacy/ it's our country school of non-thought.
"Irish go home" isn't that racist?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:20
COMMENT-BODY:SFTB,
Ok, I'll bite. Last 16 of the CL is the better achievement.
(and to your part 2, yes, that makes WGS a better manager than many of us have given him credit for ;-)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tomc
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:21
COMMENT-BODY:test test tset
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:22
COMMENT-BODY:Kano@19.01
I suppose if you think mindlessley disliking someone purely because of their nationality, ethnic origin or race is no worse than disliking someone because in the past they engaged in reprehensible behaviour to your direct detriment then... no there is no difference.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:23
COMMENT-BODY:Guys,guys,
Offensive,and ignorance of history,isn't the same as racism.
I am the first to get it right into them when they are guilty of this,and it is frequently.
But,offending us and having a dig at our ancestry,isn't the same thing.
We should respond with songs that make and show us as proud of our ancestry.
Not run to the internet and post about it.
More banners like last Wednesday's is the way to deal with this.
And better songs to show them up for what they are.
Showing them up for idiots and fools,is far more effective than trying to pull the racist card against them.
Every right minded person knows that a large majority of them are racist,bigoted,and religiously ignorant.
But banning them from having a dig at us is not the way to go.
The song does not have a go at our history.
Don't give them the credit for having such depth of thought.
It is a simple,thick,and quickly thought up chant that has gained popularity among them.
Why don't we retort along the lines of"the M74(or whatever the hell the main road south is),is open again",why don't you go home.
Would this be racist?
Or a dig at their perceived allegiances?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:23
COMMENT-BODY:Stuart
Thanks
Wrong guess at part 2 however. I'll post that question within the hour.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:23
COMMENT-BODY:kano
the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.
by telling us to go home they are attempting to exclude us from society. this by definition is racist.
we boo deco because he trys to beat our team by cheating.
not really difficult to spot the difference as to why one is offensive and one isnt
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:23
COMMENT-BODY:Naka injured in training today.Any body hear if its serious enough to keep him out of Sunday's game.-Go on Fiorentina...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:24
COMMENT-BODY:Dick Byrne,
what can I say???
You got me!!!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:25
COMMENT-BODY:dublin bhoy,
did you see the front page of the 'herald am' this morning?
the huns chiefs have banned the dublin rangers supporters banner (dublin loyal - supporting rangers from behind enemy lines) from ibrox indefinitely as it "could spark sectarian trouble and evokes memories of the Troubles"...
that says all it needs to about the huns chiefs being too scared of their own fans flying their own flag at their own ground for fear of sectarian trouble...
sad.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tomc
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:25
COMMENT-BODY:hi fellow tims
i agree with paul67 that hartley and robson must play on sunday..read in evevning times that NAKA was injured in training today ...any info on this anybody??
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:26
COMMENT-BODY:Replay of 60/61 UEFA Cup Winners Cup... Viola to be Victorious Again...
Adrian Mutu 6/1 to Score...
Mutu Played 6/10 UC games scored 6... Takes Penalties and Free Kicks scored 1 of each...
Scored 9 in 9 games in Feb08...
Carlsberg don't do Tips but if they Did... Mutu v Alexander = 2nil...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Hiro_Nakamura
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:32
COMMENT-BODY:Kano,
re Rankers fans cultural/geographical ignorance,
at Nakamura's first game against them at the Bigot Dome, a columnist in the now deteriorated S***** H***** reported that they were calling him " a dirty, Fenian, Chinky b******"
Laughable , if it wasn't so tragic.
I blame non-denominational schools.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:32
COMMENT-BODY:kano, it's offensive, mate.
if a teams fans were to sing "the holocaust's over" when playing spurs, that would result in that team being expelled from the premier league.
if a teams fans were to sing "the slave trade is over" when playing a team that had players of african descent playing, it would also result in expulsion and repulsion.
singing "the famine's over" should not be met with laughter or the shrugging of shoulders.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dalgety bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:33
COMMENT-BODY:Kano are you for real?
What's racist about the 'The famine's over, why don't you go home'
I don't know if you had noticed but all racist's are very keen on 'repatriating' people they feel shouldn't have come to the country in question.
Furthermore it's clearly stereotyping all Celtic fan's as being of Irish descent and by implication Catholic. As many posters have pointed out Celtic supporters come from all sorts of backgrounds and beliefs. It is what makes us the fantastic community that we are. I am half of Irish descent and half of Scottish Highland descent where should I go 'home' to?
The famine affected the Scottish Highlands too but the Orcs are too ignorant to think of that.
There are many huns in the Highlands I don't imagine they would have been happy at such references.
Still we should all lighten up and have a laugh at this funny ditty about orchestrated ethnic cleansing.
Still standing up for the (soon to be) Champions and Tommy Burns.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:39
COMMENT-BODY:Kano, that is a truly excellent idea (on the blog, I have missed you contentious comment).
I will, of course, have to start reading the comments again, which I’ve been meaning to do for ages anyway.
The fabled move from Blogger is inching closer; perhaps only days away.
This will require everyone to reregister with the new system, which I reckon will half the number of comments initially, as who can be bothered registering before proclaiming your thoughts to thousands?
There is a ton of good material in the comments section, I’ll keep an eye on how the idea would work and how the new blog (with fabulous new admin features) will work.
Thanks.
P.S. you are now mowing StevieS’ lawn.
Tomc, no info.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:39
COMMENT-BODY:good old kano
hook line and sinker (' )) )<
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Hiro_Nakamura
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:41
COMMENT-BODY:Re Naka injury,
When you read the ET article, it's a story about nothing.
In one sentence it says he got injured, and in the next it says he returned to training.
What week is this?
O yes, I remember "league decider derby clash week"
It's usually the Daily Retard that goes in for this sort of undermining stuff
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tic Talk
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:42
COMMENT-BODY:Kano,
I suppose it is how you define `race`.In that we are all members of the human race, then racism is impossible. However, if I were to think of myself as belonging to the `ScOttish` race, then their Famine song IS racist.In any case, I don`t find it funny being told by Union Jack waving, Rule Britania singing Rangers` fans that I don`t belong in THEIR Scotland.I am Scottish and a supporter of Glasgow Celtic and I AM home.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:44
COMMENT-BODY:dub-tim,you are quite correct.
As I stated,it should be met with louder and prouder songs of pride in our ancestry.
But,sorry I forgot,that is "Irish tosh" and we are no longer allowed to mention it.
We are only allowed to complain,in emails,and letetrs to the editors, about their digs at us.
Make no mistake,I do not like thier songs,regrdless of their humour content.
And I would prefer if most of them inhabited another planet from me.
But their is no law stating one team's supporters cannot say anything "offensive" to the other team's supporters.
Football stadiums are NOT CQN,with one guy stating what is offensive,and what is allowed.
Insidious bigotry and religious intolerance,is something that is looked after by law.
But everybody offends everybody else at one time or another.
If we show we take offence,it will continue.
Here to stay,and proud to be here.
Or are you?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ironbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:45
COMMENT-BODY:Spoke to a friend of mine from Texas on the phone last week. He follows Celtic and we met at a OF game years ago and have stayed friends since. He found the potatoes and famine stuff hilarious.He watched the game on TV there and follows the results as best he can. Albeit he's removed somewhat from this sad little backwater he finds the whole OF "warfare" facinating viewing.
Speaking to him makes me laugh at the whole scene too I admit but it really makes me wonder how the rest of the world view us and them and how pathetic this wee country can be.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:55
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 19:57
COMMENT-BODY:Apologies for the typing on the last post,was too busy trying to book my ticket home away from the big bad huns.
Contentious?
Moi?
Guys,take it from someone who bolted after a few years of Thatcher.
I have had more "go home" comments than any of you can imagine.
I retort with,"I chose to come,I wanted to come,and I will stay.
And the place will be better for it.
All I am saying,is stop greeting into the net,and make yourselves heard where it counts.
Drown these drongos out.
Let them know who and where you are,and where you are going to stay.
They are the drongos.
And that will never change.
Be offensive to them.
You can outwit them.
The banner proved that on Wednesday.
Doesn't really matter what we think of what they sing.
Vey little will be done anyway.
What matetrs is what we sing.loudly,in return.
It is up to the people there to make them insignificant.
It is easily done when you outnumber them 5 to 1.
If you wish to show that you are as much part of the country as that mob.
Let everybody watching here about it.
As,after all,what is thought in that sad little hole,doesn't really matter.
It is what the oustside world think,and that is the only way change will be forced there.
Let's here it.
Make a noise for change.
Complaining has very rarely made one iota of difference.
Action,on the other hand.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:00
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67 et al,
There�s something that�s been bothering me about Celtic�s current trend of conceding goals and it�s something I hope stops soon.
Recently, we�ve played teams and dominated, while often conceding a goal to the team�s first, or at least only meaningful, attempt on target. Gordon Strachan made a point recently of teams only having 6 shots on target in 6 games. Yet we still conceded, despite dominating the game.
In a 90min game, it�s generally the normal that Celtic command 60% possession of the ball, and more. The normal �ball in play� is circa 50-55mins, but can be as low as 45mins in some games. In a recent game, Celtic were attributed with nearly 70% possession meaning that in a game where the ball was �in play� for 55mins, Celtic had the ball for 39mins � almost an entire half. In the other 16mins, we conceded a goal. From one shot on goal.
Had Zoolander�s goal stood at the weekend, that would have been Aberdeen would have scored with their only shot on target. The recent Rangers game was another example of one team scoring with their solitary strike on goal.
Barcelona have the same problem. They control the match with over 60% but are frequently losing goals where shots-to-goals ratio is almost exactly the same.
Why is that? I hope it stops soon, cos it�s annoying and I don�t like to think that teams can play us, score one goal from one shot, shut up shop and concede possession, but, with the exception of Motherwell away, not concede goals.
Maybe a prolific run from our strikers will render this a moot point, as happened last year when we couldn�t keep a clean sheet, but it�ll have to happen soon.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:04
COMMENT-BODY:looks like a groin injury for darshaveel
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Big Joe
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:04
COMMENT-BODY:They say that Big Joe………
He is quite slow……………………………..
But he could beet DarchViloo…………….
Over 30 yards'oooooooooooooooooooo
bIGjOEsaysMontheItallianMOB
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Zbyszek
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:11
COMMENT-BODY:Your old "friend" Fernando Ricksen made an awful foul in a penalty area. He got yellow card and gave penalty for Bayern Munuch. Bayern St. Petersburg 1:0.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: half and half
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:12
COMMENT-BODY:The ITV website are showing the hun gane if anyone wants to watch,
u may have to register but the qualityu is good.
ITV
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:15
COMMENT-BODY:Last week the huns where chucking potatoes onto the pitch
tonight they are advertsing rooster potatoes
mash csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:21
COMMENT-BODY:I noticed that ad Arthur Lee.
There's also one for Ireland Alloys, which is strange as they are surely a competitor of Murray International Metals?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:24
COMMENT-BODY:i used to work with neil alexander in a coffee shop in edinburgh airport back in 1997. didnt like him then either...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:30
COMMENT-BODY:Dub-tim, true. Artur has not convinced me in recent weeks; at most he makes one save a game.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ElDiegoBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:30
COMMENT-BODY:delia csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:31
COMMENT-BODY:ibrox erupts as gers get a corner in their second time up the park.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:32
COMMENT-BODY:played off the park again for 45 mins
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ElDiegoBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:34
COMMENT-BODY:I'm laughing to myself about how much info. is available about mashed potatoes.
This Internet thing has a lot to answer for.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:35
COMMENT-BODY:O - 0 is the half time scoreline at Ibrox. What a shock!
Still it's good to see them chasing about the park while our bhoys have their feet up.
Their distribution from the back is woeful, particularly Papac and Broadfoot. The Italians are playing a pressing game and it's paying off. Lots of of possesison for them but few chances so far.
Rangers haven't come close and only one run courtesy of the "powerfull thighs" (according to Archie of D'Archeville.
Hopefully Fiorentina can make their posession pay in the second half.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dick Byrne
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:37
COMMENT-BODY:Well, that was the most one-sided 45 minutes I've seen since we ran all over the top of them at CP last week.
Unfortunately La Viola haven't got their reward yet - hopefully it will come.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ElDiegoBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:37
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67
You should have mail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:38
COMMENT-BODY:Gordon_J
That wouldn't be the Tin Alloys?
Thank you folks. I;ll shortly be appearing at a comedy club near you!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:38
COMMENT-BODY:Paul, maybe I'm being too technical or looking for something that isn't there, but I don't think any one player is to blame. Perhaps the opposing coaching staff have all identified the same weakness and are able to exploit it. It can't be luck that a team plays against Celtic and scores with their only meaningful attempt on target.
The way Celtic are set up and play means that unless the opposition team is better at possession football than we are (cf Barca) then they play counter-attacking football, as M'well did at Fir Park.
Maybe there's no solution other than just getting on with it and seeing what happens.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ironbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:38
COMMENT-BODY:Fiorentina are no Boavista......yet.!
My teenage daughter asks " what does Nakamura ate my dog mean?"
Seems to be all the rage on teenage forums...!
Come on the Italiano's ¬!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: derbyshirebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:41
COMMENT-BODY:Why are Fiorentina so poor? Seem to me like a team who are so certain of their superiority that they believe the goals will eventually come. All set then for a couple of jammy Rangers goals.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:41
COMMENT-BODY:For the first 26 minutes the on screen caption at Ibrox read
RAN 0-0 SPO
It took all that time for someone to tell Setanta that Sporting was the last game.
Having said that, that was the most exciting bit of the first half.
It would take a 200% improvement for this game to be dreadful.
Fiorentina are not much better.
It really is that bad and Darcheville looks to be carrying a groin strain.
Oh, how they need Baz.
Of course, at half time their number one Dublin fan, Brian Kerr is talking them up for a second half winner.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: half and half
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:42
COMMENT-BODY:Re Rooster's potatoes
Think 'Sauer-KRAUT' would be more poigniant or should that read Sour Kraut.....Al git ma jaykit.lol
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bigjie
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:42
COMMENT-BODY:regarding the change from blog , why don't you have a simple forum set up like mine ??
registration is free BTW !!
sorry for the self promotion...
http://emeraldwarez.co.uk/
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:42
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:44
COMMENT-BODY:Scott McDonald
Sunday
I think that since he's been born he's been travelling towards this game
And this game towards him
Time for the bhoy to rise and become a dherby man
For by scoring he will have come to the end of one thing and at the same time the beginning of another...
u4gL
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dobbo
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:44
COMMENT-BODY:Rangers are embarassingly inferior to the Viola. However they have developed an annoying knoack of getting results where they have no right to. Without this knoack they would not even have progressed past St. Jonstone last week. That is how bad they are.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:44
COMMENT-BODY:One star,
A collective groan from CQNland I'm afraid!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sean South
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:45
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sean South
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:45
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:50
COMMENT-BODY:Stuart
The follow up question would have been.
Are Rangers better under Wattie then if they did not achieve what Eck's team did in WGS's first season?
It may lead us to the same place you suspected. We give grudging regard to those 2 league titles won and dismiss them as achieved under no challenge(?).
A win's a win as Sunday will prove.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Cubist Funk
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:50
COMMENT-BODY:Mutu muted - otherwise still on for 0-1
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mncelt
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:51
COMMENT-BODY:Watching the Rangers game live here in the US. First I have seen them this season other than when they play us. Quite astonishing that they are where they are at at this stage of the season. They have showm absolutely nothing in this game. Fiorentina are slightly better but not much.
60/40 possesion in the Italians favour tells you about how Rangers have approached this game. Anti football at it's best. Any neutral watching this would assume the Italians were at home.
The US commentator keeps referring to 'Sir Walter' :)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: oldtim67
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 20:51
COMMENT-BODY:It's depressing to watch football played in that way,I couldn't believe the way Rangers set themselves up to play the home leg,Darcheville on his tod,for such a well made guy,he falls very easily.
Couple of No Surrenders during that first half,I hope UEFA are listening.But it's not my kind of entertainment,I'm going to see if there's any good movie's on the box.
I hope Celtic never adopt that way of playing,What an advert for Scottish Football.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mncelt
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:00
COMMENT-BODY:Commentator says "This is not the most attractive football we have seen" :)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Boltonbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:06
COMMENT-BODY:Sean South 20:45 - Shame on you sir - you forgot to mention Quiz Ball!!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sean South
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:09
COMMENT-BODY:It would seem that some journalists reporting on Rangers either do not understand the meaning of words such as "unprecedented" or "unique" or else they are simply trying to re-write football history.
Today I have read on Setanta Sports News that Rangers are chasing an "unprecedented" quadruple while the BBC TV teletext version says they are going for a "unique" quadruple.
I have written to both these organisations pointing out that there would be absolutely nothing "unprecedented" or
"unique" about Rangers winning a quadruple.
Indeed, if they did achieve this feat it would come some 41 years after Celtic had achieved a far more notable quadruple of major honours.
In case Setanta or the Beeb didn't know ( can you really believe that?) I have informed their senior management that Celtic became the first British team to win a quadruple- consisting of four major honours in a season in 1967.
Celtic, of course, that season also became the first British club in history to win the Continent's premier trophy- the European Cup in a season when they also lifted the Glasgow Cup in the biggest clean sweep ever seen in European football.
I will be interested to see what Setanta and the BBC have to say about their grossly inaccurate claims concerning Rangers.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: inkybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:13
COMMENT-BODY:TicTalk,
The point is sometimes many of us look for bias when it isn't actually there.
Doing this repeatedly leads to a 'Cry Wolf' scenario.
Being able to criticise someone or something with any validity means there has to be objectivity at all times.
STANDING UP..Forza Viola, keep making the Currant Buns run about
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:13
COMMENT-BODY:Not even Steve Davis is making this game interesting.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:14
COMMENT-BODY:Ulysses, despite my concern over his recent form, I think you might be on to something there, this could be Scott McDonald’s game.
I’ve been watching the game at Ibrox, while Rangers were very off looking in the first half I think both teams are happy with the draw.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:16
COMMENT-BODY:i hope and pray that broadfoot is playing right back on sunday
he is the worst player i have seen for many a year. another petta - ricksen moment could well be on the cards, aiden must be rubbing his hands at the thought of playing against that numpty
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Boltonbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:18
COMMENT-BODY:Somehow I think Aiden will be more interested in Novo!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Boltonbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:19
COMMENT-BODY:But you're not wrong about Broadfoot! Can't wait.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Jim the Tim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:21
COMMENT-BODY:Nothing on the telly tonight so I introduced my 6-year-old daughter to the delights of 'Thunderbirds'! Forget Kylie, Lara Croft or Christina Aigulleira; who can forget that Lady Penelope? I wonder how many aul hauns also remember getting the hots for Aquamarina? :-)
Remember, "Anything can happen in the net half-hour!"
Yours in Celtic,
Jim.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio Nacional
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:21
COMMENT-BODY:Tony Bannanas
The thing that upset me about that DR artical was that I clicked on a direct link to it, how do I get my click taken off their site hit count?
Talksport on catching up with CQN with tv in background sipping Chianti.
I heard Biff inverviewed and said he would be happy with a 0-0, I had a peek at the half time highlights and I realised I must have had a hard day, got very very sleepy.
Come on Mutu, thought he had a nose for goal. Vieri last goal someone else posted would also do.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: geebee1978
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:22
COMMENT-BODY:Lucio own goal makes it Bayern 1-1 Zenit in the other semi. Fiorentina look like they'd be happy with 0-0 but with Rangers capable of nicking an away goal, that could be dangerous.
An exit at this stage would be very demorolising for Rangers and may have a huge impact physcologically.
Paul67 once said Rangers biggest asset was their momentum - I believe this is shuddering to a halt.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Jim the Tim
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:22
COMMENT-BODY:That should of course be "Anything can happen in the next half hour!"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:23
COMMENT-BODY:Paul
They are tired and wearing thin at the edges and whilst the wheels are still on their cart re La Viola we have had many up close looks at their game.
An unprecendented 'drag the defence about' game from Scott McDonald will have them at 6's and 7's (67 - if you will) and either of our two forwards can and probably wil score against them
keep them moving the wrong way - stop having our two forwards looking back up the field - have Scott go wide to drag them out - have Samaras make those straight across runs that keep the full defence guessing - I wonder if they will be as impregnable against our (Aiden's) cross ball delivery now the Scottish/World (hand Ball) player of the decade is out?
4
G
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:25
COMMENT-BODY:Why is the game being played behind "Closed Doors"...?
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:25
COMMENT-BODY:the ibrox crowd appear to be refereeing tonights match
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: inkybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:30
COMMENT-BODY:Perhaps wishful thinking, but a last minute winner for Fiorentina tonight would be sweet.
STANDING UP
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ElDiegoBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:31
COMMENT-BODY:I really can't make my mind up about Samaras.
For me I'd start with JVOH and Scotty.
If Hinkel is fit doubt that BB will get a game as GC will defo. play.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mncelt
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:33
COMMENT-BODY:Rangers have clearly played for 0-0 tonight. Even the crowd are happy with that.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:35
COMMENT-BODY:0 - 0 FT.
The least surprising scoreline since Germany and Austria played out a draw that meant they both qualified all those years ago.
I don't think the Fiorentina keeper made a save all night. Very poor performance by a tired looking home team.
At least they were made to chase for most of the game, which can only be to our benefit.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:35
COMMENT-BODY:mn
Rangers begun the match playing for penalties next week
sometimes its the title not the way you gain it
u
but enough of what we already know of them
u
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: DublinBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:37
COMMENT-BODY:I see the BBC has already decided who will win the league New Scottish Champions (hint see start of 5th paragraph)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ElDiegoBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:39
COMMENT-BODY:foggy dew
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Borders Bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:40
COMMENT-BODY:Can't believe the outrageously unwarranted positive comments that the commentators put on that game. Andy Walker: "Rangers can now go away once again without having conceded a goal at home".
What about scoring a goal - or even a shot on goal?!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: half and half
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:43
COMMENT-BODY:two sh*t teams
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sean South
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:46
COMMENT-BODY:Don't buy the line that 0-0 is a poor result for Rangers tonight- even though it was a mind-numbingly poor performance.
It is a better result than we got in 2003 at home to Boavista in the UEFA semi final.
Rangers 0-0 is a better position than our 1-1 five years ago with no away goal conceded.
And don't forget they have already won at Panathinaikos and Sporting Lisbon after 0-0s at Ibrox.
With Ferguson back in Florence they still have a fighting chance even if they seem to be disjointed and jaded.
What worries me to death is that they keep winning that they shouldn't....
Surely that run must stop.........
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:47
COMMENT-BODY:Good result for us - they are neither unbowed or bloodied - and in some bizarre way are probably feeling themselves vindicated.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: IBelieve
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:47
COMMENT-BODY:Borders bhoy. ITV4 was worse. rangers have turned 0-0 into an art form and they are utterly brilliant at looking like the away team at home! :) rnagers-Fiorentina, shots on target 0-3.
rangers don't do football, but if they did... :)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ironbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:48
COMMENT-BODY:Fiorentina probed well, The huns are gash. I would doubt their away results will continue after this performance. 6 defenders at home is anti-football in essence.
I hope they play the same game at CP on Sunday.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:49
COMMENT-BODY:SFTB,
Agree that more credit is due to McLeish than he gets for his time at Rangers. I've never really thought that WGS was gifted 2 titles. One of those was his first season and started in Bratislava, so he had a job on his hands, especially given Black Sunday.
It's hard to compare mangers in the short term, even head to head. Legends are made over at least 5 years. My worry about WGS is that his team looks to have gone backwards this season (in general) and some of the players don't appear to be listening to the manager.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:50
COMMENT-BODY:Munich at Home 24 shots (11)on Goal...
Mince at Home 3 shots (0) on Goal...
o1bhoy
Mince...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:52
COMMENT-BODY:Poor game to watch 4 the casual oberver............utter dross! gers looked very poor in mid and upfront.....Cuellar is they key link on that side and keeps the door shut tight!
Maybe UEFA should move the return leg back a month or two, cancel school holidays and postpone Euro 2008 to allow the team of unsurpassed dignity the time to recover 'for the good of the scottish game' as lets face it according to most media pundits only one team matters in this land.......
Now Celtic go out on sunday and murder the manky mob on sunday....I don't think it'll be so easy as they'll know avoiding defeat will still keep the SPL race in their favour, but if we get in front by a goal or 2 the loss of Cuellar will make a difference so we could bag a few over the 90mins!
This is such a crucial game and the entire team must be up for it!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: emsh
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:52
COMMENT-BODY:DublinBhoy
Have just emailed a comment, advising I was unaware Celtic were playing tonight. It is silly things like this that make you wonder what these 'journalists' get paid to do. They might believe it is all over, but we certainly do not.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tomc
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:53
COMMENT-BODY:archie was very nervous during his commentary tonight ,,,,agree?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:54
COMMENT-BODY:Geebee1978, thanks for brining that up.
Yes, momentum had been pushing them forward for weeks but it has reversed.
EDB, I make my mind up about Samaras at least twice a week, usually in different directions.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:54
COMMENT-BODY:sean south,
I'm sure that both Setanta and the beeb 'know their history' and are aware that Celtic won a quintuple in 1967.
I'm afraid they may not know what unique or unprecedented mean though.
I've just heard a commentator remark that the home team have have "literally no posession" hmmmm
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GM
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:55
COMMENT-BODY:The Hun co-commentating with Archie McPherson was of the view that it was job done for Rangers because they didn't concede a goal.
Whatever happened to winning your home tie?
This is hunbleievable. How can a team so bad progress so far?
I have a sick feeling that the Huns win the UEFA Cup on penalties.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tic Talk
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:57
COMMENT-BODY:Let`s not kid ourselves...the Hun are difficult to beat.We have to win on Sunday and I believe we will but our team needs all the support we can offer.The Hun have NOT had the advantage of the MIB in Europe and still have conceded few goals. Yes, they are boring but don`t delude ourselves that they are an easy touch. They are not we really need to back our team on Sunday to ensure victory.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:58
COMMENT-BODY:"Congratulations to Rankers !!!
A brilliant Euro away performance, sets them up nicely for the match at Ibrox in front of their own raucaus fans...WhAT? That was at Ipox ? Ehh, erm, well then..."
If I'm not mistaken, Nacho Nedo had a piece of turf in his back pocket.
Pure and utter mince. Just how much longer has the Uefa Cup as a competition left ? A poor advert for football. And Fiorentina, who were rubbish at Everton, were made to look better than I suspect they actually are.
UnderwhelmedCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malone19
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 21:59
COMMENT-BODY:That game was possibly thee most boring game of football I've ever seen.
Have to say they'll be delighted with 0-0 as it gives them a chance for a 1-1 over there.
Why can't teams see that Rangers play football like (organised) school kids? They move ALL players to the area of the park where the ball is, leaving the opposite flank completely open.
All it would take would be fullbacks or wingers to hug the opposite touchline and there would either be an easy diagonal pass opening the play wide open or it would stretch their defensive system making more space in the middle!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: inkybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:01
COMMENT-BODY:Are Cuellar and Weir both suspended for Sunday because of the reds they got last week?
If so, Dailly looks knackered and our frontmen will be doing a lot of running at them.
Skippy and Big Georgios would be the lads for that gig, although starting with JVOH would hopefully be a good way to exploit the lack of their two top central defenders.
STANDING UP.. unlike most of the Rangers squad who are injured or just plain knackered.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:02
COMMENT-BODY:Stuart...SeanSouth...
Does the fact that Celtic Won 5...
Not make a Quadruple... unique...?
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:03
COMMENT-BODY:I've cracked Wattenacio.
First half is all defending and I mean big-time, every man behind the ball with perhaps Darcheville making occasional forays toward the opposition penalty box.
First 20 of the second half - have a go ! Catch the opposition cold.
Thereafter, defend, defend, defend.
These will be the tactics employed Sunday, they know no other way.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ianinjesi
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:03
COMMENT-BODY:Strange game that.
Fiorentina will be pleased because they don`t travel well. Also it`s well known that they can only play well in purple.:-) At least Fiorentina don`t look as fragile as Sporting.
Cricket bigger than football in ten years? Judging from tonight, why the wait?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:05
COMMENT-BODY:I believe Cuellar and Thompson are out suspended.
Think Aiden will be a marked man and won't be surprised if he's 'taken out' early......this will be a battle on sunday.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WillieMillersBushyTache
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:08
COMMENT-BODY:Just watched the Orcs game.
Cuellar - is key to anything that Rangers do, he is by far and away the best player they have in that team, without him they would have capitulated long before now.
Fiorentina - poor side, watched them against Everton at Goodison, lucky to hget through on pens.
I think with the ned and thompson back for the away leg they stand a reasonable chance of progressing to the final, and thats so unlike me to think that.
Your game against them on Sunday will be a completely different beast. I just hope your ready.
WMBT
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:09
COMMENT-BODY:DublinBhoy, I would respectfully suggest that they've "hooked" a live one with that tag. From another angle, they're Scotland's last chance in Europe and are therefore Scotland's champions, note, small "c".
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:10
COMMENT-BODY:Well they're getting results but they're generally only draws. Here are the last 12 games over 90 mins:
Rangers 0 - 0 Fiorentina
Rangers 0 - 0 St Johnstone
Celtic 2 - 1 Rangers
Partick 0 - 2 Rangers
Sporting 0 - 2 Rangers
Dundee United 3 - 3 Rangers
Rangers 0 - 0 Sporting
Rangers 1 - 0 Celtic
Rangers 2 - 1 Hibs
Rangers 1 - 1 Partick
Dundee United 2 - 2 Rangers (Rangers will on penalties)
Werder bremen 1 - 0 Rangers
There is some poor form going on here with 6 draws over 90 minutes, lost 2, and won only 4. Some of their victories haven't been convincing either: they were barely in it against us, they were sluggish against hibs, and one of their victories was against lower league opposition. Sporting was well played though.
Could you imagine the stick we would get if we had scored only 4 goals from 5 home games and had failed to score in 2 of them matches? They failed to score against St Johnstone at Hampden over 90 minutes also.
I'm a little worried about Sunday, not because they're good, but because they do pack their defense well which makes it hard for teams to break them down. A draw isn't good enough for us so I'm hoping for another early goal to make things easier. The strikers will be tightly marked so it's down to the midfielders to get into the box and support them.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:11
COMMENT-BODY:WMBT
I too am becoming very wary of assuming the next 12 points are in the bag. Walt will have his lads fired up knowing one major last push against us might see them through.....so yes we need to be veryu ready and up for it like we were last wednesday and then some!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:15
COMMENT-BODY:o1bhoy,
I suppose so, but if you're being pedantic I'd say that just before we won the 5th title we had a quadruple. I believe that Liverpool won a quadruple (?) I think this because I was fuming when listening to a Liverpool game with the commentator talking about Iiverpool's 'unprecedented' quadruple.
S
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: IBelieve
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:17
COMMENT-BODY:On Sunday, first half, 15-20 min assault on their goal is in order. No goal then ease off the gas and play as much possesion football as we can muster without over committing. Second half - CHARGE!!!! :)
The Fhans? Same tactic, only keep up the onslaught for the full 90 :)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WillieMillersBushyTache
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:17
COMMENT-BODY:pjdali - I watched you game against the Orcs last Wed and you deserved to win that game. The trick is to score first and force rangers out, as I do believe that they dont really have a Plan B when they concede, and having home advantage should count for something.
They will sit in and look to hit on the break, Paul67's main article hit the nail on the head, get to the 2nd ball first and things should go your way.
If Cuellar is banned for Sunday then you have a better chance of scoring and perhaps winning more comfortably, he is their mainstay this year. Great player it has to be said.
WMBT
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: DublinBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:19
COMMENT-BODY:Pablophanque:
You could well be right there, but I just put it down to either a) bad research and journalism or b)wishful thinking....maybe a combination of both, though.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:20
COMMENT-BODY:sean south...
I posted early this morning (see below) about an article on the BBC football website looking back at the Rangers v Fiorentina European Cup Winners Cup Final in 1961.
The journalist, Keir Murray, claimed that Rangers were the first British team to contest a European Final.
I watched the game on IT4 this evening and pre-match the commentator, Peter Drury, came away with the same inaccuracy.
Birmingham City were of course the first British club to reach a European Final when they lost 8-2 over two legs to Barcelona in the Inter Cities Fairs Cup in 1960.
earlier post reads.....
More Inaccurate Information from the BBC Football Desk...
On the football section of the BBC website there is an article by Keir Murray titled "When Rangers Met Fiorentina in 1961"
The journalist states that "in reaching that stage of the inaugural cup, Rangers became the first British team to contest a European final."
Well, as every self-respecting anorak knows, this is completely wrong.
Birmingham City played, and lost to Barcelona in the 1960 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Final.
They also lost to Roma in 1961, the year Rangers lost to Fiorentina in the Cup Winners Cup Final.
Our own Bertie Auld featured for Birmingham in that Roma final.
If we really want to be pedantic, the very first Inter Cities Fairs Cup Final was contested by Barcelona and the City of London in 1958!
Come on Mr Murray (any relation?) at least check your Evening Times Wee Red Book before going to print!
Your post @ 21:46...Rangers didn't win in Athens, they drew.
Whatever, I think that they are favourites to go through after they managed to dig out yet another 0-0 this evening.
Heaven forbid though!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bhono
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:20
COMMENT-BODY:Re tonights game - unfortunately, not losing a goal at home in this sort of tie is a very good result - no question. Hopefully the 2nd leg won't have the Italian's being as naive and unlucky as previous opponents, otherwise who knows how crap things could get!
Meanwhile to Sunday - my big concern isn't them - it's us, and how few clear cut chances we create (and those we do we seem to struggle to take). It took the goal of this or any season to start proceedings for us last weeks, but we make it look oh so hard to carve out openings, despite loads of possession. We need things to click, please, on Sunday.
And we need to stop gifting the opposition chances - we do it every game, God knows why.
Lets do them. Again. Only lets do them big time, and shatter the myth of momentum, once and for all.
Lets make them wish the season was already over.
Hail Hail
bhono
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: chennaiseabird
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:21
COMMENT-BODY:Hugh's half time quiz.
WHAT ARE RANGERS KNOWN AS?
A. The Teddy Bears
B. The Hunny Bears
C. Who?
(Andy Walker, how could you?)
ianinjesi
Cricket is bigger than football. But it's getting greedy, so it won't be long before it's down to our level. It's all Kerry Packer's fault.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:22
COMMENT-BODY:When did Liverpool win 4 in a season?
They won 3 cups a few years back, UEFA, FA and League. What was the 4th = Charity Shield, Lancashire Cup?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:24
COMMENT-BODY:Tomorrow, think I'll start with tapping my head with a wee stick for a while. Then I'll maybe move on to a big spoon. That should really get it started! Next, it's gotta be some rather more-than-is-good-for-you banging of the head off the table. By this time, it should really be building up to be a right stormer !
So what's next ? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Only one thing could possibly take me to the next level, the good o'l full-swing-to-the-head cricket bat. Hard to administer, but bhoy, is it worth it to know that I'm just one step away from achieving my Nirvana, my goal, my heaven !!!!???
There she is. My one true friend. The only thing that I know I can depend on to deliver all that I desire...............?
*Thump* *Thump* *Thump* *Thump* *Thump* *Thump* *Thump* *Thump* *Thump* *Thump*..........."
Body falls to the floor !
Read the rags, get what you deserve. It'll be full-systems-go as of 22:00 this evening to start that big o'l Juggernaut that is the huns' PR machine. otherwise known as the 4th estate.
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:29
COMMENT-BODY:Gordon J, you're almost certainly correct (and I'm wrong) I'm sure there was loads of babble then about that treble.
I'm going to shut up now ;-)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Peat Blog
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:32
COMMENT-BODY:Weir missed the SC game last weekend due to the red card being for violent conduct.
Think he's back for Sunday.
Unless of course he ends up involved in a riveting game of bridge in the auld folks home!
Apologies too any auld people or bridge players :o)))
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:34
COMMENT-BODY:WMBT
agree 100%
Cuellar is a key player and his absence has added to the mix of sunday and might be a real bonus for us. He's certainly been a very consistant performer and perhaps the only Gers player I'd have in the hoops!
The players all know in both camps what winning means to both sides....
if we win the heat gets turned right up under the backsides.....and we've 3 cup finals left to play! Win em all' who knows...we can but hope!
I reckon they will drop some points, they look tired and for them they are in a nightmare scenario when the end game is about to begin......but if they win on sunday (aaarrggghhh) I reckon a shot of adrenalin will see them crawl over the finish line.....possibly a point will serve the same purpose.
but like Paul has said, the win, win, win streak they had is running dry and every time they go a goal behind the harder it will be to drag themselved back up...
Their defence and Cuellar in particular might still be the difference between the tams when the dust on the SPL season settles....pray we are left smiling!
Aiden will be kicked, scratched, elbowed and assaulted at every opportunity on sunday and we need to ensure as a team we defend him and keep his mind on playing football and not let his game be spoilt by poor sportsmen. Our captain must step forward and be counted ensuring the ref' knows it's unacceptable.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:35
COMMENT-BODY:I don't want to come across as bitter and jealous but really the standard of the Uefa Cup this season has been awful. These were the teams which we came up against.
FK Suduva
BLACKBURN
CELTA VIGO
STUTTGART
LIVERPOOL
BOAVISTA
PORTO
With the exception of Suduva all of those teams were good. We came up against to Premiership teams with healthy transfer budgets particularly Liverpool. Porto won the Champions League the following season. Vigo, Stuttgart and Boavista were very difficult opposition.
The Rangers opposition has been extremely poor:
Panathinaikos
Werder Bremen
Sporting Lisbon
Fiorentina
The first noticable thing is that by dropping down from the Champions League you only have to play a few games to reach the final which makes it easier. But the quality of opposition has been poor, the only impressive team has been Werder Bremen who's goalie shot them in the foot. Fiorentina look talented to an extent but they look powderpuff up front.
The fact that this will be treated like it is as good as our Uefa Cup run is really quite depressing. When they got to the last 16 a few years ago the media actually suggested that was as good as the Lisbon Lions achievement.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: IBelieve
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:37
COMMENT-BODY:They knew they needed a goal tonight. You could tell from the constant pulling of hair and the looks of pain on Walter and Ally's faces. Fiorentina played the Italian way, i.e. don't concede is the most important thing, take them at home. Walter and Ally know that was a bad result, because they know they are running on empty and their tactics don't work on empty. They work on graft and there 'aint much left.
COME ON THE CELTS! :)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:38
COMMENT-BODY:Stuart...
I think the WoolyBacks Won 4 Games in a Row once... But it was Year Ago... .)
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: chennaiseabird
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:38
COMMENT-BODY:pablo
hit me with your rhythm stick.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: oldtim67
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:39
COMMENT-BODY:pablophange.
I forgot to mention,theres a bit of a dress code,Jeans are a no-no.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: half and half
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:42
COMMENT-BODY:I knew i'd seen that ugly face of Papac before
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:44
COMMENT-BODY:Ibelieve,
thats how I see it, italian clubs main aim away is not to concede, they might not look like much on that showing but they are 4th in their league above molan, so they must have something.
I'm thinking if we get a result on sunday and fierenzy get the home result, we will see them crumble.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:45
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:47
COMMENT-BODY:milan even
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:47
COMMENT-BODY:half and half....
Jongs crivens help ma boab......That man's got a face like a burglars dog !!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:48
COMMENT-BODY:0 shots on target at home and it is a good result. Isn't it sad to see the Beautiful Game reduced to this?
We can win on Sunday. It will likely by Weir and Dailly in the middle of defence. Surely we can rattle in a couple in the first half and kill them off? Then Fiorentina do the business next Thursday and life looks an awful lot better!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:50
COMMENT-BODY:Chennia, okay...............
"Whack !!!
OT, gottcha :o)
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: chennaiseabird
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:50
COMMENT-BODY:Sunday isn't the key. It's just a must win for us, to do which the only improvement we have to make is turn dominance into goals. Starting with work the goalkeeper. Theirs, not ours.
Speaking of ours, is Artur's problem that he can't concentrate, needs to be in a team that's not got such a good defence as ours? That keeps him involved more? I think Artur gets bored. Me too sometimes.
Anyway, back to Sunday. I'd rather Cuellar was playing against us and missing another game.
The key for me is how motivated the others will be against Rangers. That's not a paranoia lying down thing. Just fact.
In the remaining games, no one will be playing for as much as Rangers are. Unless they're playimg for their self respect, of course.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nakasleftpeg
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:54
COMMENT-BODY:OK Here it is ..........
Rankers are now Scotland
Post Bertie
Hail Sir Wattie
4-5-1
Hard To Beat
Group Of Death
4-5-1
Backs To The Wall - France
1-0 Gary Caldwell - Unbelievable
Keep It Tight
Turned Scotland Around I'm Off To The Huns
Big Alex - Dont Change IT FFS
4-5-1
In Paris Backs To The Wall
0-1 McFadden - Unbelievable
We Can Qualify
Georgia Away
Keep It Tight
4-5-1 ..........Eh ?
Surely Theres A Time To Have A Go ?
2 - 0
Surely We Should Have Had a Go ?
Never Mind
Theres Still Italy To Come
4-5-1
Surely Theres A Time To Have A Go ?
1-2
We're Oot
Surely We Should Have Had a Go ?
Aye But Well Done Anyway Fur Gettin Sae Far.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: chennaiseabird
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 22:58
COMMENT-BODY:pablo
Here's a harder one.
Biff me with your walking stick.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: whitedoghunch
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 23:01
COMMENT-BODY:Hugh I wish sometimes too wish Artur would grow up and concentrate.
The fella can keep goal for me any day though.
The title is already ours.
I know.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 23:05
COMMENT-BODY:bbc have backtracked
bbc change scottish champions to scottish side
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 23:11
COMMENT-BODY:Chennia, BIFF !
WDH, how long you bin sayin' GC wis a "player" ???
pablophanque
BTW, League won, dinner's on me, lost ..............? Naw ain't even gonna think about it.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: chennaiseabird
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 23:13
COMMENT-BODY:Bryan
Artur? Oh, all right then.
The title? Where's the party......?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon
COMMENT-DATE:24/04/08 23:15
COMMENT-BODY:24 April 1965....Scottish Cup Final
Celtic...3 Dunfermline...2
There was that indefinable feeling that history had conspired to prepare this page of its record...the youngsters had revived Celtic's proud tradition as cup fighters...the side had fought back twice to equality in this final already and even against the wind were forcing Dunfermline back into a frantic defence...it was now, or perhaps never,as Celtic forced corner after corner.
Another corner, this time on the left...to be taken by Gallagher running over to place the ball...over it comes, high and too far out for the goalkeeper, but he has left the goal...McNeill's there...and his header rages into the net splitting the full backs sharing the cold comfort of being correctly placed at the posts, but unable, indeed helpless, to prevent the execution of an inspired move.
McNeill had scored one of his infrequent goals, and how fitting it was that the young captain, already considered a veteran, should have emerged, apparently from nowhere, to score exactly the goal that history demanded.
He had been a member of this side during its apprenticeship, was saturated with the mood of the times - the youthful delight in past victories, and the dismay of