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crikey!!
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honest question
is anyone confident that if by some terrible calamity strachan stayed we can trust him to buy the players we need given his track record.
If so why?
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goal
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ew
take it
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gweedore
that wee ginger imposter couldn`t manage a pub team
i stated earlier that he is going about things the way a recalcitrant employee does who wants the dan mack
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Rockandroll Bhoy- the most 'Celticminded' thing you can be is often to not be' Celticminded'. I would be very ,very wary of anyone who suggests bringing any potential manager's religion,beliefs,ethnicity, hair colour or record collection into the equation
11/04/08 20:49 [FTLT]
Gweedore- no.
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PS -unless the terrible calamity is that somehow we win the League!
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malceye
are you there ?
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dontbrattbackinanger
Good one
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Paul-
You've lost me there. How will 2 teams losing a qualifier help us ?
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DBBIA
should we win the league
do you want another season like this?
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I’m amazed at the disrespect shown to the manager of Celtic Football club by so-called Celtic fans.
No matter your opinions on the manager’s ability, referring to him by his second name or calling him names shows no respect for the office far less the man.
For a second I thought id signed onto follow follow,
Please show some dignity
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dignity....hmmmmmmmmm
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have to agree with smtg, no need to insult OUR manager.
Can anyone explain how Rangers have accumulated more points than us given we have been the more consistent team, as far as european competiton is concerened?
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smelltheglove
less of the so called fans remarks
strachan deserves the sack he wont get it but thankfully he will walk.
It's all about opinions
what next gonna call us huns
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gweedorebhoy-
can we trust strachan to buy the players we need?
i don't know.
does strachan really decide on what players we need?
what does john park do?
what about the ssm?
what i'm getting at is that i'm not sure whether strachan gets a final say or what say he gets at all.
if we have a system for selecting players to be bought then i'm sure he contributes but to what extent i'm not sure. i imagine the ssm has the final say. if strachan and john park have identified different players for the same position, who does the ssm go with? is that a possible situation?
i've read rumours that gs and john park don't get on. is that true? if so how has that affected what players we've bought?
for example-
selling miller ( i don't think gs was too happy about that)
buying hutchenson ( i have heard that it was a john park signing )
i'd find it interesting if someone in the know can shed a light on how we really go about buying (or selling) players.
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Gweedorebhoy
Just for the sake of it
Artur Boruc is widely regarded as being possibly the best keeper the great majority of us have seen playing for Celtic
Andreas Hinkel will imo go on to be one of the better full backs we have had in a number of years.
WE seriously tried to sign Van Buyten and Metzelder but failed. Would either have changed your mind about GS and his signings?
Scott Brown was the talent in Scottish football 12 months ago. He won't be the first to be overawed when moving to Celtic. Perhaps like Stan Petrov and Henrik Larsson we may enjoy him
yet.
Have you seen anything of Koki Mizuno so far? I expect us to be very pleased with him in due course.
Scott Mc Donald? 26 goals is not too bad by anyone's standards surely?
Not many I grant you but when you're having to trawl the bottom in many cases its probably as good as the next guy.
By the way I have asked before and I'm not at the wind up you were extremely confident that Rangers would sign both Robson and Velichka and said the deals were already done. Was your source poor or is there another tale?
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smelltheglove
wgs
is not CFC
he is a current employee
nothing more
sometimes a manager becomes more than that .....not this one
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Pfayr- so we would be going for 4iar?
I imagine that if we won the league from this position a lot of the pain would be forgotten as we basked in the amazement of it all.
I didn't get much pleasure last season either ,but was told to shut up and admire the silverware.
This year we haven't even had that.
If we win this year I think the manager will walk away, if we don't he'll have to be sacked.
Of course,in the long run seasons like this are good for the soul; they make the good times even sweeter.
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Sack Platini and Blatter and all the other Uefa Darnelists that let this situation arise.
Or sack Bert Kassie.
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I just watched the first half of the Celtic V Killie reserves match. There has been some good performances. Mizuno has been quality pinging the passes about although not sure how he's feeling after some heavy challeges but he seems alright. Hutchinson did well before his injury pinging in a lovely cross for Killen's second. Caddis is good at right back, Sno and Miller are dominating the midfield and Cuthbert and Balde are solid in defence. Killen has been clinical with his three goals as well. So all in all an impressive performance. Big difference from that reserves and first team though...
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Smelltheglove.
Personally i always try to refer to the manager as Mr Strachan.I do this because some have said that it is disrespectful to call him by his surname.
I do not see anything wrong with a player or manager being referred to by there surname.
I always referred to Tommy Burns as Tommy Burns.However sometimes i would refer to Paul McStay as McStay and John Collins as Collins ,and Danny McGrain as McGrain.
I think that you are taking the lack of a first name being used ,to formally.
Just a small point but ,it doesn't always mean that people are being disrespectful.
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DBBIA
IMO
the manager is done ...if we win this year then it will be in spite of him not because of
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bobo's re-introduction on the 26/12/07 not only gave us our first clean sheet away in over a year but spurred us on a winning run of 8 games with 6 clean sheets
the huns have to go to 3 grounds were they have lost points this season - fir park - easter rd and pittodrie
maybe the re-introduction of bobo this sunday could have the same rejuvinating effect
all we need is the huns to drop points at fir park - probable and get stuffed at easter road probable
we win the league by a point
ulster-celt
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PF and Gweedore
You are both entitled to any views you wish to express.
My concern is the completely disrespectful way you refer to the present incumbent of the manager’s office.
There is no requirement for that, on any level, no matter what your feelings are.
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tinytim
WGS is now referred to as the manager by me for pejorative reasons
last saturday was too much for me
i have never seen the like
incompetent rubbish which no man of business would accept
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derbyshirebhoy
Got that one wrong bit like you did with strachan we all make mistakes
Did get kenny miller leaving and daily to huns right
Nice dig with the tale bit. Really sad but nice dig but as i said We all make mistakes.
Now please ignore me and i will do likewise
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Bert Kassie cannot be sacked; it would be like sacking Santa.
You're good, SC brings you presents. Your team's good, BK brings you points,and we all know what points mean.
I would very much like to meet him, or even someone who's been stuck in a lift with him.
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swelltheglove
respect is earned not given
latterly ...no respect i`m afraid
not an appreciater of inco
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incompetence
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If we had signed Daily or Weir there would have been uproar,but lets give Smith some credit they are playing well in a system.
Steven Whittaker for instance was seen as not being in the same Ball Park as Young Brown but again is playing well.
Smith just seems to be getting more out of players who on the face of it are not as good as ones` playing for the hoops.
Management thats the answer.Gordon go and Seek employment elswhere.
Called him Gordon in case Happy mob got offended.
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smell the glove
I have always called him strachan and will continue to do so.
No insult meant or implied.
Have fun folks and for those of you going to fir park let's party defiance is our only weapon.
Come on Queen of the south
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ulster celt
agree
i`m 5` 8`` and 20 stone
there is more chance of me playing
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bhoysean
I was also impressed by reserve performance.Big Bobo was suberb and there was some great passing movements.
I doubt we will see change.
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nelsbhoy
i take it the bevvy has worn off
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nelsbhoy
see my earlier post re bobo
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It's a joke that wins in the UEFA Cup count the same as wins in the CL. Surely the premier competition should have some sort of premium? Last I looked European giants like Newcastle and Middlesborough will be ranked above us next season!
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nelsbhoy
see my earlier post re bobo
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from the last article. think blogger chopped it.
Edward
You also drew with Hibs.
One game (St Mirren away) was postponed at the behest of the SFA - the only game incidentally that would have meant your team played consecutive European and Domestic Away games at least once this season - and another in order that you could prepare for the Lyon game (Gretna).
The St Mirren game should have been on the 11th of November. The Gretna game was supposed to be on the 9th of December. Rangers had a free mid week on the 5th of December but chose not to use it to play the postponed St Mirren game. They also had a free midweek on the 19th of December in which they could have played either of these postponed games. They chose not to.
Rangers lightened their load at a time when their nearest rivals rolled up their sleeves and got on with it. We dropped points in November/December while Rangers had some down time.
An extension in these circumstances is grossly unjust.
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Strachan is a numptie. He would earn more respect if he said
CLICK THIS
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To see our manager described as a “wee ginger imposter” by fellow supporters really is hard to bear.PF,You would do well to delete that post.
For the record, it’s my view that the managers time is up and a move would be best for both parties.
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Gordon J :- I agree with you that it's wrong, no doubt about it. Can I ask though if you still felt it was a joke when you had the benefit of the Seville season points?
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Edward U
Should you be reading this first of all congratulations on getting this far - UEFA Cup that is. You know I cannot wish you success but there you go.
Strangely I remember the 1961 Cup Winners Cup Final when I was rooting for your lot simply because you were Scottish. Now I'm happy to see you lose at tiddleywinks. How did that happen? Rhetorical by the way as I don't know the answer myself.
By the way cards on table I did not think you could possibly do what you have done. I believed that until the game against ICT when Darcheville scored in the last minute that you were a poor side scraping results. From then on however you've grown and developed into a side who are extremely difficult to beat and with great momentum and team spirit. I believed in January that our signings and the return of Naka would sort you out but I was wrong. Now I live in hope but not expectation.
What I actually wanted to ask is how you feel about it all? This season must be exceeding your wildest expectations but I truly wonder how it compares with my feelings in 2003. I know that you beat Bremen but I wonder if you'd had the same expectaion as I did early on meeting and beating Blackburn Celta Vigo Hamburg then Liverpool. I remember buying the tickets for the final between the two legs against Liverpool with confidence that we could get there and that even following our loss to you in the League Cup Final after BBJ'S incorrectly disallowed goal and missed penalty. I just knew we were a good team and felt that on our day we could beat anyone whilst at times some of our play was very exciting to watch.
I was disappointed at the season's end but the ride was exhilerating. I wonder if you're experiencing anything like it? Does this Rangers side give you a buzz or is the winning enough?
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smelltheglove
why????
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pf
No pished again tonight.Had a day full of Hun anticipation with bookings for Florence/Manchester.
Could hardly sleep last night re their Season Potential.
Im with you all the way.
PS,It wasnt you that was looking over a Locus in Ingram Street yesterday?
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ed
well?
you should be
an unbeleivable turn around ...bet you had no idea our manager was as bad ...an honest answer , as always, please
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PFAyr
you have email
cheers
malceye
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Z :- Once again I'll say I agree with you on the extension, I've said this many times on different posts, I think it would be wrong. Fair enough on the Hibs draw that also added to extra fixtures. That leaves three postponed games, one we requested, one Celtic requested and one the SFA requested for international reasons.
I take your word for it about the two free midweeks but can't comment as I don't recall the reasons given.
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gweedore
Which part of "I'm not at the wind up" did you not get? No dig was intended. It was a genuine question. No need to be so touchy.
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nelsbhoy
no
i was in Ayr yesterday
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malceye
Good to hear from you.This was predicted.Do you have this weekends lottery numbers?
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Blogger Bhoy_Molloy said...
Strachan is a numptie. He would earn more respect if he said
Linky no work. Try Click Here
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pf
Sorry 5'8 20 stone,I had dealings with one of your colleagues.
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nelsbhoy
do you watch the soprano`s
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Nelsbhoy
evenin' - what was predicted ?
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malceye
didn`t get it
no matter get it on monday
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m molloy
are you a sun journo in disguise
sort it out
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PFAyr
email me from your current connection and I will send again now.
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Derbyshirebhoy :- I can't say I'm thrilled with the style of play we are using this season. I would far rather see a more entertaining game played.
However although it may not be the prettiest football to watch it isn't as negative as many think, having played a game less than you in the league we have scored four goals more than you.
On expectations for this season, I honestly think we are exceeding anything I dreamt of this season and although I doubt it will happen I'm starting to dream the impossible dream so to speak.
Last night gave me one of the biggest highs I can remember for years, this may be due to the fact that I was 15 the last time we reached a European semi but it was still a fantastic buzz.
Like yo did about the seville team I'm now thinking that we can beat anyone we face on the day.
So this season I would love a more entertaining style but after the past couple of seasons winning is enough.
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Edward
About those free midweeks there were no reasons given. Rangers could have played but apparently chose not to. If there are any reasons perhaps they or the SPL can explain them to us should they ask for and be granted an extension.
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Edward
Enjoy. They don't come along too often.
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Bhoy Molloy
I really don't think that brutal honesty, disingenuous charm or evasive sophistry in WGS's communication with the fans will make a blind bit of difference to the relationship. I fear they'd find fault if even he said "youse are all absolutely right, I'm a fud and a numptie in the pay of the Lodge and I did it all for a bet."
The only thing that matters is results. He was never loved, he was never accepted and, once the irrefutable evidence of titles won and qualifications obtained are gone, we have the evidence to demand his sacking.
I fear that whoever replaces him may well win back our league but I fear we may be downsizing in Europe soon because we have been punching above our weight for some time.
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PFAyr :- Are you trying to get me lynched :-)
As I was asked I'll say that I think he is a good manager when things are going well but I also think he loses this when given a real challenge in Scotland. Remember I don't see your team every week so don't have the knowledge of his tactical awareness that folk on here do. Perhaps the most damming thing I can say about him is I would be pleased if he were to stay for next season.
I don't think he comes near Mr Smith as a manager.
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PFAYR ive just signe din and I was looking back to see your post about Bobo and I cant find it.
I believe that Bobo has ruled himself out of the team rather than not been picked.
As it was said last night Bobo Balde plc is alive and well.
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Evening Bhoys And Ghirls
Just in from a wee afterwork drink in ML3. took it from huns/accies and ml1 huns; always laugh at them even when we feel down, and as I say to them all....
today,tomorrow and always I will wake up a CELTIC fan, proud and more importantly lucky to have been born so
i will now go back and see what my fellow hoops have to say about our great club and will post back after another couple of whiskeys..
hail hail..still trying to stand
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malceye
You predicted doom for this currrent Celtic Team
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ed the blue nose
yes indeed, various former managers of the of, epl and big euro teams visit this site
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What is it like in BB,s non match day?Thinking of going in their tommorow.
It will be my first time in this establishment since its second night of opening 86 I think.
I have a Unique claim to Fame as far as that Pub is concerned.PS,Nothing to be proud of.
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At 11/04/08 21:37, Blogger spikeysAuldMan said…
m molloy
are you a sun journo in disguise
sort it out
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Told you an all Strachan was a fud.
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Hey Paul,
You sure know how to cheer it up ! Pot 4 ? Boooooooooooooo !
Following the total disaster of last weekend, this is sad news.
Your article on how Uefa should change the points system for CL vs. Uefa Cup is graphically illustrated by this information I'm afraid.
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their should mean there
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gerry 19.03 - Like tinytim said if Mr Levein is a Celtic fan he has hidden it extremely well for 45 years, in fact perhaps he should be working for MI5 if that is the case.
His behaviour and pronouncments over the suggest the opposite - particularly his "I want to put this behind us but here's a video of John Hartson elbowing my player" stunt.
To my mind Levein, Blobby Williamson and Jim Jeffries were the three SPL managers most keen to greet and whinge after losing to Celtic but being a tad more reticent after games against Brerr Hun.
Re the actual thread, I am amazed that there is not some weighting towards coefficient points gained in the Champions League. If UEFA can arrange it so Henke needed to score 1.5 times more goals than Henry/Ronaldo etc. to win the golden boot because he played in a mediocre league then they can do it for European competition surely.
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malceye
gynrfeen@aol.com
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m molloy
the next celtic manager
what does he have to do to not be a fud - over his first 3 years
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ed
thanks for the reply
a very balanced one if i may say so
thanks for your honesty
BTW
I think he`s a FUD
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The biggest disappointment for me is that WGS is picking the team on Sunday.
His team selection last weekend against Motherwell should have been the final nail in his coffin.
To leave out Samaras and Hartley and bring back Donatti smacks of a man trying to get sacked, as was said earlier.
He should have been removed on Monday morning.
And those calling for Bobo Balde to play on Sunday would be as well asking for Prince Philip to get a game.
To ignore our best defender all year and bring him back when the league is all but lost would be another insult to the fans to add to the long list.
The fact that he still retains his position causes me to fear that the board will give him another year.
This would be calamitous for the club.
The club have a core support, in my opinion, of 30k who will turn up however poorly the team are performing.
The rest are guys who came to the club when Fergus got us going again. Thats 20k fans who were doing other things on Saturdays pre-Fergus.
From the look of our attendances this year it seems some of them have gone back to doing those other things.
The club cannot afford to go back to the attendances of the early nineties but if the slide is allowed to continue that is exactly where we are heading.
The club stands at a crossroads this summer and how we react will determine the clubs direction for the next decade.
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Hi All,
I am addicted to this site!
dontbrattbackinanger - I am with you on that!
I am in need of some help from any of the sites historians.
I know the first Celtic game I was taken to with my Dad and his brother was at Hampden Park.
It was Celtic V Motherwell.
Celtic won 1-0
I am sure it was a cup tie, hence the venue.
I am sure it was 1965, but it might have 1966. I cannot be sure of the year - I was 9 or 10
For the 10 years follwing I followed Celtic all over Scotland.
I still watch or listen to every game - I don't live in Scotland now.
Thing is...
I cannot find a record of any such match!!!!
Hopefully I have looked in the wrong places,
Anyone shed any light?
Always had in my mind it was a League Cup quarter/semi final
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nelsbhoy
have been in bbs couple of times,
not my fav; bit overpriced and pretentious,(Spelling)
but if you want to have a nice old fashioned boring day with well healed tims; its nearly like being in the posh lounge at celtic park
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What does the little dustbin on my comment mean?
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At 11/04/08 22:05, Blogger spikeysAuldMan said…
m molloy
the next celtic manager
what does he have to do to not be a fud - over his first 3 years
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Beat Wally and Sally will do to start with.
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Blogger Rock & Roll Bhoy said...
What does the little dustbin on my comment mean?
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It means yer posts are rubbish. ;)
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rock and roll
18/8/1965 league cup motherwell 1-0 divers the scorer 32000 fans
ulster-celt
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spikeys
Amongst the major requirements, would be:-
He does not attend BB cliques
He does not sign Scottish players cos they're rubbish
He must speak respectfully to the Dawylls and other ex employees of Rangers News, er, I mean respected members of the Scottish Sports Press.
He must never lose a game to a diddy team.
He must play Bobo even when the rev is reffing.
He must not play the discredited 4:4:2 system as espoused by 90% of European teams and must, instead, play the 3:5:2 system which was all the rage for 5 minutes at the turn of the millennium.
And he must be celtic-minded, though your guess is as good as mine as to what that means.
Hope that helps.
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Alright im biting can you please tell me who you will all get to be the next manager who will deliver us the title every year.
Ferguson 4 years at Man U before delivering a trophy... he would not have lasted a year with our current support.
Wenger a year at Arsenal before delivering and not delivering every year....as above
Benetiz 2 trophies not good enough
Hughes, Moyes not won anything.
MoN mid table manager also has a history of not winnign every year up here.
So who is the solution?
Or do we get the SSM to interview CQN contributors?
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blantyre
Not for me then,Thanks.
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First post here. Go easy!
Just wanted to chuck in my opinion.
This season has been hard to take but is getting rid of WGS really the answer? I can't think of anyone capable enough (with the thick skin that goes with old firm management) that would want the job.
I think it right we have our opinions but at this time I think we need to stand behind the team as one. How much is the negativity affecting the players? All the web and paper talk, I'll bet it filters back to Celtic Park.
Come on, we still have a chance. 2 home old firms and it's 3 points, not a mountain just a wee hill!
Always look on the bright side of life!
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setting free the bears
downsizing in europe? Please elaborate? It may be the vino but I am missing yer point :(
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Rock and Roll Bhoy
I get them all the time,
means you should/can delete your comment, if you so wish
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RnR Bhoy- it means you can delete it, say for example you end up with the same post 3 or 4 times as can happen; or you decide you want to get rid of your post for any reason.
My first game was Carlisle against Coventry[?1966-7]; Bobby Gould was playing for them and my dad gave him a black look for swearing loudly when he put the ball out for a shy.
This is going to come over all Hovis advert but I think it may even have been the first time I heard the F-word; nowadays it's the punctuation of the playground.
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Bhoy Molloy
It's just as likely to be the vino I've had.
What I intended to convey was that I expect us to perform poorly in Europe over the next few years because I think we've punched above our ability level in both the MON and WGS era. I think we'll be lucky to get into CL groups above a 1 in 4 ratio unless we get into a more lucrative market than the SPL.
I realise that Rankers current Uefa run is evidence to the contrary. I've tried to look for a rational explanation for this but I can only conclude that GOD (the big fella not Paul's theory) is building them up for an especially big fall.
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DBBIA Carlisle this weekend ? You have been wobbling a bit recently
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Tony Bananas,
I remember Billy Davies moanimg in the press for days about Petrov winning a penalty which was proved to be a spot-kick.
The next week a hun player maliciously kicked a Motherwell player in the head after the ball had gone.BD did not even mention it.
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Nelsbhoy,
it gives me no pleasure, believe me, to have doubted the strength of the current team. From manager to captain, its just wrong. Anyway, as I say, there's been enough chat about that. Focus now on Sunday. Whatever the limitations, we're still capable of beating any of the other 5 teams. As I say, I anticipate a rousing support and a fechtin' team spirit.
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GL2
the huns were appalling in the air last night
BB is the man ...no chance of him playing though
recalcitrant gringer numpty
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GL2 -Man U had not won the League since the days of Sir Matt; whoever is[un]fortunate enough to succeed SAF will not get 4 years to win a title.
If MH and DM had been managing 10-15 years ago they could well have won a trophy- now[this year excepted] even the FACup is the reserve of the top 3 or 4 clubs.
Their CVs are at least as good as the current manager of both Rangers and Celtic were while they were working in England.
Anyways- my other team getting a draw at smelly Leeds tomorrow?
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