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crikey!!
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honest question
is anyone confident that if by some terrible calamity strachan stayed we can trust him to buy the players we need given his track record.
If so why?
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goal
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ew
take it
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gweedore
that wee ginger imposter couldn`t manage a pub team
i stated earlier that he is going about things the way a recalcitrant employee does who wants the dan mack
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Rockandroll Bhoy- the most 'Celticminded' thing you can be is often to not be' Celticminded'. I would be very ,very wary of anyone who suggests bringing any potential manager's religion,beliefs,ethnicity, hair colour or record collection into the equation
11/04/08 20:49 [FTLT]
Gweedore- no.
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PS -unless the terrible calamity is that somehow we win the League!
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malceye
are you there ?
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dontbrattbackinanger
Good one
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Paul-
You've lost me there. How will 2 teams losing a qualifier help us ?
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DBBIA
should we win the league
do you want another season like this?
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I’m amazed at the disrespect shown to the manager of Celtic Football club by so-called Celtic fans.
No matter your opinions on the manager’s ability, referring to him by his second name or calling him names shows no respect for the office far less the man.
For a second I thought id signed onto follow follow,
Please show some dignity
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dignity....hmmmmmmmmm
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have to agree with smtg, no need to insult OUR manager.
Can anyone explain how Rangers have accumulated more points than us given we have been the more consistent team, as far as european competiton is concerened?
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smelltheglove
less of the so called fans remarks
strachan deserves the sack he wont get it but thankfully he will walk.
It's all about opinions
what next gonna call us huns
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gweedorebhoy-
can we trust strachan to buy the players we need?
i don't know.
does strachan really decide on what players we need?
what does john park do?
what about the ssm?
what i'm getting at is that i'm not sure whether strachan gets a final say or what say he gets at all.
if we have a system for selecting players to be bought then i'm sure he contributes but to what extent i'm not sure. i imagine the ssm has the final say. if strachan and john park have identified different players for the same position, who does the ssm go with? is that a possible situation?
i've read rumours that gs and john park don't get on. is that true? if so how has that affected what players we've bought?
for example-
selling miller ( i don't think gs was too happy about that)
buying hutchenson ( i have heard that it was a john park signing )
i'd find it interesting if someone in the know can shed a light on how we really go about buying (or selling) players.
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Gweedorebhoy
Just for the sake of it
Artur Boruc is widely regarded as being possibly the best keeper the great majority of us have seen playing for Celtic
Andreas Hinkel will imo go on to be one of the better full backs we have had in a number of years.
WE seriously tried to sign Van Buyten and Metzelder but failed. Would either have changed your mind about GS and his signings?
Scott Brown was the talent in Scottish football 12 months ago. He won't be the first to be overawed when moving to Celtic. Perhaps like Stan Petrov and Henrik Larsson we may enjoy him
yet.
Have you seen anything of Koki Mizuno so far? I expect us to be very pleased with him in due course.
Scott Mc Donald? 26 goals is not too bad by anyone's standards surely?
Not many I grant you but when you're having to trawl the bottom in many cases its probably as good as the next guy.
By the way I have asked before and I'm not at the wind up you were extremely confident that Rangers would sign both Robson and Velichka and said the deals were already done. Was your source poor or is there another tale?
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smelltheglove
wgs
is not CFC
he is a current employee
nothing more
sometimes a manager becomes more than that .....not this one
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Pfayr- so we would be going for 4iar?
I imagine that if we won the league from this position a lot of the pain would be forgotten as we basked in the amazement of it all.
I didn't get much pleasure last season either ,but was told to shut up and admire the silverware.
This year we haven't even had that.
If we win this year I think the manager will walk away, if we don't he'll have to be sacked.
Of course,in the long run seasons like this are good for the soul; they make the good times even sweeter.
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Sack Platini and Blatter and all the other Uefa Darnelists that let this situation arise.
Or sack Bert Kassie.
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I just watched the first half of the Celtic V Killie reserves match. There has been some good performances. Mizuno has been quality pinging the passes about although not sure how he's feeling after some heavy challeges but he seems alright. Hutchinson did well before his injury pinging in a lovely cross for Killen's second. Caddis is good at right back, Sno and Miller are dominating the midfield and Cuthbert and Balde are solid in defence. Killen has been clinical with his three goals as well. So all in all an impressive performance. Big difference from that reserves and first team though...
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Smelltheglove.
Personally i always try to refer to the manager as Mr Strachan.I do this because some have said that it is disrespectful to call him by his surname.
I do not see anything wrong with a player or manager being referred to by there surname.
I always referred to Tommy Burns as Tommy Burns.However sometimes i would refer to Paul McStay as McStay and John Collins as Collins ,and Danny McGrain as McGrain.
I think that you are taking the lack of a first name being used ,to formally.
Just a small point but ,it doesn't always mean that people are being disrespectful.
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DBBIA
IMO
the manager is done ...if we win this year then it will be in spite of him not because of
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bobo's re-introduction on the 26/12/07 not only gave us our first clean sheet away in over a year but spurred us on a winning run of 8 games with 6 clean sheets
the huns have to go to 3 grounds were they have lost points this season - fir park - easter rd and pittodrie
maybe the re-introduction of bobo this sunday could have the same rejuvinating effect
all we need is the huns to drop points at fir park - probable and get stuffed at easter road probable
we win the league by a point
ulster-celt
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PF and Gweedore
You are both entitled to any views you wish to express.
My concern is the completely disrespectful way you refer to the present incumbent of the manager’s office.
There is no requirement for that, on any level, no matter what your feelings are.
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tinytim
WGS is now referred to as the manager by me for pejorative reasons
last saturday was too much for me
i have never seen the like
incompetent rubbish which no man of business would accept
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derbyshirebhoy
Got that one wrong bit like you did with strachan we all make mistakes
Did get kenny miller leaving and daily to huns right
Nice dig with the tale bit. Really sad but nice dig but as i said We all make mistakes.
Now please ignore me and i will do likewise
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Bert Kassie cannot be sacked; it would be like sacking Santa.
You're good, SC brings you presents. Your team's good, BK brings you points,and we all know what points mean.
I would very much like to meet him, or even someone who's been stuck in a lift with him.
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swelltheglove
respect is earned not given
latterly ...no respect i`m afraid
not an appreciater of inco
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incompetence
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If we had signed Daily or Weir there would have been uproar,but lets give Smith some credit they are playing well in a system.
Steven Whittaker for instance was seen as not being in the same Ball Park as Young Brown but again is playing well.
Smith just seems to be getting more out of players who on the face of it are not as good as ones` playing for the hoops.
Management thats the answer.Gordon go and Seek employment elswhere.
Called him Gordon in case Happy mob got offended.
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smell the glove
I have always called him strachan and will continue to do so.
No insult meant or implied.
Have fun folks and for those of you going to fir park let's party defiance is our only weapon.
Come on Queen of the south
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ulster celt
agree
i`m 5` 8`` and 20 stone
there is more chance of me playing
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bhoysean
I was also impressed by reserve performance.Big Bobo was suberb and there was some great passing movements.
I doubt we will see change.
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nelsbhoy
i take it the bevvy has worn off
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nelsbhoy
see my earlier post re bobo
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It's a joke that wins in the UEFA Cup count the same as wins in the CL. Surely the premier competition should have some sort of premium? Last I looked European giants like Newcastle and Middlesborough will be ranked above us next season!
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nelsbhoy
see my earlier post re bobo
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from the last article. think blogger chopped it.
Edward
You also drew with Hibs.
One game (St Mirren away) was postponed at the behest of the SFA - the only game incidentally that would have meant your team played consecutive European and Domestic Away games at least once this season - and another in order that you could prepare for the Lyon game (Gretna).
The St Mirren game should have been on the 11th of November. The Gretna game was supposed to be on the 9th of December. Rangers had a free mid week on the 5th of December but chose not to use it to play the postponed St Mirren game. They also had a free midweek on the 19th of December in which they could have played either of these postponed games. They chose not to.
Rangers lightened their load at a time when their nearest rivals rolled up their sleeves and got on with it. We dropped points in November/December while Rangers had some down time.
An extension in these circumstances is grossly unjust.
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Strachan is a numptie. He would earn more respect if he said
CLICK THIS
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To see our manager described as a “wee ginger imposter” by fellow supporters really is hard to bear.PF,You would do well to delete that post.
For the record, it’s my view that the managers time is up and a move would be best for both parties.
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Gordon J :- I agree with you that it's wrong, no doubt about it. Can I ask though if you still felt it was a joke when you had the benefit of the Seville season points?
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Edward U
Should you be reading this first of all congratulations on getting this far - UEFA Cup that is. You know I cannot wish you success but there you go.
Strangely I remember the 1961 Cup Winners Cup Final when I was rooting for your lot simply because you were Scottish. Now I'm happy to see you lose at tiddleywinks. How did that happen? Rhetorical by the way as I don't know the answer myself.
By the way cards on table I did not think you could possibly do what you have done. I believed that until the game against ICT when Darcheville scored in the last minute that you were a poor side scraping results. From then on however you've grown and developed into a side who are extremely difficult to beat and with great momentum and team spirit. I believed in January that our signings and the return of Naka would sort you out but I was wrong. Now I live in hope but not expectation.
What I actually wanted to ask is how you feel about it all? This season must be exceeding your wildest expectations but I truly wonder how it compares with my feelings in 2003. I know that you beat Bremen but I wonder if you'd had the same expectaion as I did early on meeting and beating Blackburn Celta Vigo Hamburg then Liverpool. I remember buying the tickets for the final between the two legs against Liverpool with confidence that we could get there and that even following our loss to you in the League Cup Final after BBJ'S incorrectly disallowed goal and missed penalty. I just knew we were a good team and felt that on our day we could beat anyone whilst at times some of our play was very exciting to watch.
I was disappointed at the season's end but the ride was exhilerating. I wonder if you're experiencing anything like it? Does this Rangers side give you a buzz or is the winning enough?
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smelltheglove
why????
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pf
No pished again tonight.Had a day full of Hun anticipation with bookings for Florence/Manchester.
Could hardly sleep last night re their Season Potential.
Im with you all the way.
PS,It wasnt you that was looking over a Locus in Ingram Street yesterday?
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ed
well?
you should be
an unbeleivable turn around ...bet you had no idea our manager was as bad ...an honest answer , as always, please
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PFAyr
you have email
cheers
malceye
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Z :- Once again I'll say I agree with you on the extension, I've said this many times on different posts, I think it would be wrong. Fair enough on the Hibs draw that also added to extra fixtures. That leaves three postponed games, one we requested, one Celtic requested and one the SFA requested for international reasons.
I take your word for it about the two free midweeks but can't comment as I don't recall the reasons given.
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gweedore
Which part of "I'm not at the wind up" did you not get? No dig was intended. It was a genuine question. No need to be so touchy.
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nelsbhoy
no
i was in Ayr yesterday
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malceye
Good to hear from you.This was predicted.Do you have this weekends lottery numbers?
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Blogger Bhoy_Molloy said...
Strachan is a numptie. He would earn more respect if he said
Linky no work. Try Click Here
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pf
Sorry 5'8 20 stone,I had dealings with one of your colleagues.
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nelsbhoy
do you watch the soprano`s
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Nelsbhoy
evenin' - what was predicted ?
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malceye
didn`t get it
no matter get it on monday
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m molloy
are you a sun journo in disguise
sort it out
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PFAyr
email me from your current connection and I will send again now.
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Derbyshirebhoy :- I can't say I'm thrilled with the style of play we are using this season. I would far rather see a more entertaining game played.
However although it may not be the prettiest football to watch it isn't as negative as many think, having played a game less than you in the league we have scored four goals more than you.
On expectations for this season, I honestly think we are exceeding anything I dreamt of this season and although I doubt it will happen I'm starting to dream the impossible dream so to speak.
Last night gave me one of the biggest highs I can remember for years, this may be due to the fact that I was 15 the last time we reached a European semi but it was still a fantastic buzz.
Like yo did about the seville team I'm now thinking that we can beat anyone we face on the day.
So this season I would love a more entertaining style but after the past couple of seasons winning is enough.
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Edward
About those free midweeks there were no reasons given. Rangers could have played but apparently chose not to. If there are any reasons perhaps they or the SPL can explain them to us should they ask for and be granted an extension.
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Edward
Enjoy. They don't come along too often.
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Bhoy Molloy
I really don't think that brutal honesty, disingenuous charm or evasive sophistry in WGS's communication with the fans will make a blind bit of difference to the relationship. I fear they'd find fault if even he said "youse are all absolutely right, I'm a fud and a numptie in the pay of the Lodge and I did it all for a bet."
The only thing that matters is results. He was never loved, he was never accepted and, once the irrefutable evidence of titles won and qualifications obtained are gone, we have the evidence to demand his sacking.
I fear that whoever replaces him may well win back our league but I fear we may be downsizing in Europe soon because we have been punching above our weight for some time.
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PFAyr :- Are you trying to get me lynched :-)
As I was asked I'll say that I think he is a good manager when things are going well but I also think he loses this when given a real challenge in Scotland. Remember I don't see your team every week so don't have the knowledge of his tactical awareness that folk on here do. Perhaps the most damming thing I can say about him is I would be pleased if he were to stay for next season.
I don't think he comes near Mr Smith as a manager.
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PFAYR ive just signe din and I was looking back to see your post about Bobo and I cant find it.
I believe that Bobo has ruled himself out of the team rather than not been picked.
As it was said last night Bobo Balde plc is alive and well.
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Evening Bhoys And Ghirls
Just in from a wee afterwork drink in ML3. took it from huns/accies and ml1 huns; always laugh at them even when we feel down, and as I say to them all....
today,tomorrow and always I will wake up a CELTIC fan, proud and more importantly lucky to have been born so
i will now go back and see what my fellow hoops have to say about our great club and will post back after another couple of whiskeys..
hail hail..still trying to stand
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malceye
You predicted doom for this currrent Celtic Team
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ed the blue nose
yes indeed, various former managers of the of, epl and big euro teams visit this site
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What is it like in BB,s non match day?Thinking of going in their tommorow.
It will be my first time in this establishment since its second night of opening 86 I think.
I have a Unique claim to Fame as far as that Pub is concerned.PS,Nothing to be proud of.
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At 11/04/08 21:37, Blogger spikeysAuldMan said…
m molloy
are you a sun journo in disguise
sort it out
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Told you an all Strachan was a fud.
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Hey Paul,
You sure know how to cheer it up ! Pot 4 ? Boooooooooooooo !
Following the total disaster of last weekend, this is sad news.
Your article on how Uefa should change the points system for CL vs. Uefa Cup is graphically illustrated by this information I'm afraid.
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their should mean there
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gerry 19.03 - Like tinytim said if Mr Levein is a Celtic fan he has hidden it extremely well for 45 years, in fact perhaps he should be working for MI5 if that is the case.
His behaviour and pronouncments over the suggest the opposite - particularly his "I want to put this behind us but here's a video of John Hartson elbowing my player" stunt.
To my mind Levein, Blobby Williamson and Jim Jeffries were the three SPL managers most keen to greet and whinge after losing to Celtic but being a tad more reticent after games against Brerr Hun.
Re the actual thread, I am amazed that there is not some weighting towards coefficient points gained in the Champions League. If UEFA can arrange it so Henke needed to score 1.5 times more goals than Henry/Ronaldo etc. to win the golden boot because he played in a mediocre league then they can do it for European competition surely.
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malceye
gynrfeen@aol.com
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m molloy
the next celtic manager
what does he have to do to not be a fud - over his first 3 years
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ed
thanks for the reply
a very balanced one if i may say so
thanks for your honesty
BTW
I think he`s a FUD
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The biggest disappointment for me is that WGS is picking the team on Sunday.
His team selection last weekend against Motherwell should have been the final nail in his coffin.
To leave out Samaras and Hartley and bring back Donatti smacks of a man trying to get sacked, as was said earlier.
He should have been removed on Monday morning.
And those calling for Bobo Balde to play on Sunday would be as well asking for Prince Philip to get a game.
To ignore our best defender all year and bring him back when the league is all but lost would be another insult to the fans to add to the long list.
The fact that he still retains his position causes me to fear that the board will give him another year.
This would be calamitous for the club.
The club have a core support, in my opinion, of 30k who will turn up however poorly the team are performing.
The rest are guys who came to the club when Fergus got us going again. Thats 20k fans who were doing other things on Saturdays pre-Fergus.
From the look of our attendances this year it seems some of them have gone back to doing those other things.
The club cannot afford to go back to the attendances of the early nineties but if the slide is allowed to continue that is exactly where we are heading.
The club stands at a crossroads this summer and how we react will determine the clubs direction for the next decade.
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Hi All,
I am addicted to this site!
dontbrattbackinanger - I am with you on that!
I am in need of some help from any of the sites historians.
I know the first Celtic game I was taken to with my Dad and his brother was at Hampden Park.
It was Celtic V Motherwell.
Celtic won 1-0
I am sure it was a cup tie, hence the venue.
I am sure it was 1965, but it might have 1966. I cannot be sure of the year - I was 9 or 10
For the 10 years follwing I followed Celtic all over Scotland.
I still watch or listen to every game - I don't live in Scotland now.
Thing is...
I cannot find a record of any such match!!!!
Hopefully I have looked in the wrong places,
Anyone shed any light?
Always had in my mind it was a League Cup quarter/semi final
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nelsbhoy
have been in bbs couple of times,
not my fav; bit overpriced and pretentious,(Spelling)
but if you want to have a nice old fashioned boring day with well healed tims; its nearly like being in the posh lounge at celtic park
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What does the little dustbin on my comment mean?
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At 11/04/08 22:05, Blogger spikeysAuldMan said…
m molloy
the next celtic manager
what does he have to do to not be a fud - over his first 3 years
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Beat Wally and Sally will do to start with.
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Blogger Rock & Roll Bhoy said...
What does the little dustbin on my comment mean?
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It means yer posts are rubbish. ;)
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rock and roll
18/8/1965 league cup motherwell 1-0 divers the scorer 32000 fans
ulster-celt
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spikeys
Amongst the major requirements, would be:-
He does not attend BB cliques
He does not sign Scottish players cos they're rubbish
He must speak respectfully to the Dawylls and other ex employees of Rangers News, er, I mean respected members of the Scottish Sports Press.
He must never lose a game to a diddy team.
He must play Bobo even when the rev is reffing.
He must not play the discredited 4:4:2 system as espoused by 90% of European teams and must, instead, play the 3:5:2 system which was all the rage for 5 minutes at the turn of the millennium.
And he must be celtic-minded, though your guess is as good as mine as to what that means.
Hope that helps.
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Alright im biting can you please tell me who you will all get to be the next manager who will deliver us the title every year.
Ferguson 4 years at Man U before delivering a trophy... he would not have lasted a year with our current support.
Wenger a year at Arsenal before delivering and not delivering every year....as above
Benetiz 2 trophies not good enough
Hughes, Moyes not won anything.
MoN mid table manager also has a history of not winnign every year up here.
So who is the solution?
Or do we get the SSM to interview CQN contributors?
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blantyre
Not for me then,Thanks.
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First post here. Go easy!
Just wanted to chuck in my opinion.
This season has been hard to take but is getting rid of WGS really the answer? I can't think of anyone capable enough (with the thick skin that goes with old firm management) that would want the job.
I think it right we have our opinions but at this time I think we need to stand behind the team as one. How much is the negativity affecting the players? All the web and paper talk, I'll bet it filters back to Celtic Park.
Come on, we still have a chance. 2 home old firms and it's 3 points, not a mountain just a wee hill!
Always look on the bright side of life!
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setting free the bears
downsizing in europe? Please elaborate? It may be the vino but I am missing yer point :(
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Rock and Roll Bhoy
I get them all the time,
means you should/can delete your comment, if you so wish
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RnR Bhoy- it means you can delete it, say for example you end up with the same post 3 or 4 times as can happen; or you decide you want to get rid of your post for any reason.
My first game was Carlisle against Coventry[?1966-7]; Bobby Gould was playing for them and my dad gave him a black look for swearing loudly when he put the ball out for a shy.
This is going to come over all Hovis advert but I think it may even have been the first time I heard the F-word; nowadays it's the punctuation of the playground.
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Bhoy Molloy
It's just as likely to be the vino I've had.
What I intended to convey was that I expect us to perform poorly in Europe over the next few years because I think we've punched above our ability level in both the MON and WGS era. I think we'll be lucky to get into CL groups above a 1 in 4 ratio unless we get into a more lucrative market than the SPL.
I realise that Rankers current Uefa run is evidence to the contrary. I've tried to look for a rational explanation for this but I can only conclude that GOD (the big fella not Paul's theory) is building them up for an especially big fall.
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DBBIA Carlisle this weekend ? You have been wobbling a bit recently
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Tony Bananas,
I remember Billy Davies moanimg in the press for days about Petrov winning a penalty which was proved to be a spot-kick.
The next week a hun player maliciously kicked a Motherwell player in the head after the ball had gone.BD did not even mention it.
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Nelsbhoy,
it gives me no pleasure, believe me, to have doubted the strength of the current team. From manager to captain, its just wrong. Anyway, as I say, there's been enough chat about that. Focus now on Sunday. Whatever the limitations, we're still capable of beating any of the other 5 teams. As I say, I anticipate a rousing support and a fechtin' team spirit.
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GL2
the huns were appalling in the air last night
BB is the man ...no chance of him playing though
recalcitrant gringer numpty
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GL2 -Man U had not won the League since the days of Sir Matt; whoever is[un]fortunate enough to succeed SAF will not get 4 years to win a title.
If MH and DM had been managing 10-15 years ago they could well have won a trophy- now[this year excepted] even the FACup is the reserve of the top 3 or 4 clubs.
Their CVs are at least as good as the current manager of both Rangers and Celtic were while they were working in England.
Anyways- my other team getting a draw at smelly Leeds tomorrow?
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first game for me was standing at old main stand when it was being converted into what is now the south stand; can't remember the year but i am sure the old hands will tell me when that was;(auld hands)
i have attended ever since and will continue to go however good or bad we are.
keeep the faith
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PS - the Carlisle manager thinks 2 wins and a draw from our last 4 games[ which aren't easy] should be enough.
But the way this season has gone-it would be like getting dumped by the wife and the girlfriend in the same week!
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GL2
not winning in a 5/6
horse race is acceptable
losing the league in a 2 horse race when you are the fav is not acceptable
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Blogger playing up again...
pfayr I dont think our defence is the problem shouting for Bobo is nto teh answer as he will tell us when he is playing. He likes to think he is speilberg for the last couple of years.
Our problem is making chances. I have not looked this up but we score more goals with Massimo in the team than when he is not. A wee coincidence which people dont notice.
I will be very interested without Soctt in the midfield how we do.
DBBIA so would we give MH or DM the same criteria as Gordon. ie only win 2 doubles and get us to the last 16 in the CL and then we will punt you?
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Tobi, because then we could move up into Pot 3.
Half and half, the Uefa Cup is where the easy coefficient points are.
LarryBhoy, aye, no good news tonight.
Rock & Roll Bhoy, everyone has a dustbin beside their own comment to allow them to delete it.
Welcome livibhoy.
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blantyretim I remember Lisbon Lions (minus Ronnie) last game with the same backdrop in same season.
Doesn't that qualify you as an oldbhoy?
Would it be rude to ask who is the auldest poster?
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PF Mark Brown has a better clean sheet percentage then Artur.... as the CQN saying goes get it roon ye
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I know it's all about opinions, but I really can't see how anyone actually watching the poor predictable football that has been dished up now week in week out.......can actually think this manager really makes things happen on the pitch!
Why \ How any supporter could actually want Gordon to remain for another 12 months is beyond me. We are getting worse to watch as this season draws onand that's with possibly one of the most entertaining players in decades pulling on the hopes : Aiden!
As to us finishing any season trophyless with the resources available to our manager is quite honestly shocking!
Sorry but Gordon's teams are not for me, a change is required and I believe the plc board know it....the vast majority of us supporters know it (IMHO).
I'd have removed him after that debacle on saturday and asked Wille McStay \ Lenny to see out the remaining fixtures in the dug out........cos that was a disgrace of a result for the HOOPS!
I bet you'd get a reaction from the players if Gordon left i really do cos they are NOT playing for him anymore.
Even if Naylor lost a leg he'd still be picked to play......same for Mick, Caldwell, JVoH......1 million % unacceptable.
Thank you Gordon for what was delivered.......but enough is enough taxi for Strachan.
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GL2
Massimo...gies a break
behave your self
the guy looks like a football player/ plays,ocassionally , like a football player ....never will be a football player ...soft numpty IMO
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Paul you have mail and I will get back to you when I know the answer. Hopefully tomorrow.
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gl2
iF I COULD GET 1 GAME FOR CELTIC ..CLEAN SHEET ...WOULD I BE THE BEST ..100%...roon you
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tinytim & Tony Bananas,
As both of yous seam to know C Levein, I'll take your word he's not a Celtic fan. I was told this 2 or 3 years ago (can't remember who told me thou), but I stand corrected.
That's another one off the list...:-)
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paul67
"uefa cup is were the easy coefficient points are"
i hope this is not leading to an article suggesting we would be better off not qualifying for the champ league next season : )
the huns last 2 teams were both in this season champions league
ulster-celt
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pjdali
i concur 100%
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Paul67,
Cheers. Fantastic site btw. Only one I really bother with these days.
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PF its like talking to TTTT you want guys to run about like headless chickens.
Massimo is the only guy in the squad who has a range of passes just because he does not kick people it does nto mena he is bad. Most of our players kick people because its their second touch.
Massimo has scored more than any other midfielder this season apart from Aiden and has played less than the other 3 main players. Also scored in Europe.
I dont know what is not to like with this guy. Its a media led problem. I believe is he was played against the huns at the bigot dome the other week we would have won as he would have picked off passes which is what everyone is shouting for us to do.
I said it on here earlier in the season he plays passes as well as anyone I have saw since the maestro maybe the problem he see's them earlier than the rest of the team.
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At 11/04/08 22:27, Blogger setting free the bears said…
M8 I think Europe on a whole is a lot weaker than before. The fact that the huns are in the UEFA semi finals with Zenith and that the CL has 3 english teams says it all.
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So ye get the same points in the uefa as ye get in the champions league then?
Does'nt seem fair that.
To be honest tho I really dont think it makes a bit of difference to us, because no matter which pot we are in we are capable of beating and getting beat by any other team, we are always gonna be up against it.
Does it really matter which pot we are in?
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GL2
donati has been subbed 15 times this season!!
ulster-celt
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GL2
what ...a shirking /pass the ball out the park eejit
come on
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pjdali would Smoths team be for you?
Im not asking if you are a hun just asking a question? What makes anyone on here happy? Winning with no style, playing fancy football and not winning or the promised land of both?
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Any points earned in europe this season surely have no bearing for Scottish teams next season??
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Ulster-Celt how many times has Scott been who is next to him?
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rock & roll bhoy...
As ulster-celt posted that game in August 1965 was a League Cup section tie played at Celtic Park on a Wednesday evening, 18 August 1965.
Celtic won 1-0 and Johnny Divers scored the only goal.
In that league cup section of 1965/1966 Celtic were grouped with Dundee, Dundee United and Motherwell.
We got off to a bad start losing the first game at Tannadice 2-1.
Then came the Motherwell game and the following Saturday we lost again at Celtic Park, 2-0, to Dundee.
The Celtic View had just been launched two weeks earlier on 11 August 1965 and Jock Stein had a regular column.
After the Dundee defeat Jock wrote ...
"Sometimes you can have too much of the game. Yet it would be ridiculous for a team not to try and monopolise the attacking play.
In the first eleven's two games last week we had Motherwell and Dundee penned back in defence for long periods and in each game we made plenty of scoring chances.
The solitary goal scored by John Divers against Motherwell was poor reward for the chances created.
It seemed reasonable to hope that against Dundee we could hardly fail to score more than a single goal if we continued to make chances.
Well, we made even more, but we didn't score even one goal.
That was very disappointing.
We have only ourselves to blame, though it would be unfair of me not to point out that we didn't get one break near goal.
And I agree with the vast majority of our supporters that we were denied what looked like a very good penalty kick.
If we had scored early against Dundee I am convicned that we would have won handsomely.
That quick goal is what we need most of all to give the players that confidence.
But only we can score it.
I don't agree with the writers who say that we were all hustle and bustle and helter skelter against Dundee.
I thought that we made some very good moves on the ground and that there was a background of thought to most of our attacking play."
Jock Stein
25 August 1965.
Two defeats out of three, it sounds like Jock's making excuses!
What would the CQN'ers of 1965 have made of it?
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bhoymolloy
don't knock zenit
they put out villareal who are second in spain
and beat marseille who had put out spartak moscow
as well as destroying leverkusen
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GL2
I reckon in Donatti a player lurks......
and before I say what I'm about to say I want to say he is not alone in this fault by any stretch of teh imagination.......
BUT for an Italian the amount of times he surrenders posession by lazy loose passing is def' not what you'd expect. He is not alone in this but you'd expect him having played at such a high level for AC Milan and being an Italian footballer he'd have the premise 'thou must not lose posession' drummed into him from the moment he could walk.....
Still think he can be a great player and it is his 1st season playing in a team that looks confused and bemused so maybe we're over critical.
Still think Mr Strachan should walk right now and allow the team to breath for the last 7 games.
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larkin 1907.
think evan williams was in goal that day.
lost previous blog but as i was born the year before lisbon(anti English thing) i am not an auld haun,,,honest
Dont/can't attend away games and have a wee drink without a 2 day hangover...
how i miss the away games and the good old home support.
ex no.16 man (unless we played the ugly mob)
how i miss a spam roll...
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Rock On Rockall
Oh the empire is finished no foreign lands to seize
So the greedy eyes of England are looking towards the seas
Two hundred miles from Donegal, there's a place that's called Rockall
And the groping hands of Whitehall are grabbing at its walls
Oh rock on Rockall, you'll never fall to Britain's greedy hands
Or you'll meet the same resistance that you did in many lands
May the seagulls rise and pluck your eyes and the water crush your shell,
And the natural gas will burn your ass and blow you all to hell.
For this rock is part of Ireland, 'cos it' s written in folklore
That Fionn MacCumhaill took a sod of grass and he threw it to the fore,
Then he tossed a pebble across the sea, where ever it did fall,
For the sod became the Isle of Man and the pebble's called Rockall.
Now the seas will not be silent, while Britannia grabs the waves
And remember that the Irish will no longer be your slaves,
And remember that Britannia, well, - she rules the waves no more
So keep your hands off Rockall - it's Irish to the core.
Time to go Gordon.
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pjdali/pfayr
Earlier GL2 asked:
So who is the solution?
I've yet to see this question convinvingly answered.
And spikeysAuldMan asked:
what does he have to do to not be a fud - over his first 3 years
Again, I've never seen this convincingly answered. In fact some guys on here think the Manager should be sacked even if we do win the title this year.
So, we sack Strachan then try to sell the job to someone by saying - 'Your predecessor ONLY achieved two (or three) titles, two Scottish Cup wins and two unprecedented qualifications for the last 16 of the CL in his three years here - JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH! The man was a useles failure (or Fud or Wee Ginger Imposter or some other term of abuse - take your pick. There have been quite a variety on here tonight). Do you fancy the job then?'.
What target do we give this new guy?
Do I think Starchan's perfect? Not even close. But someone name a name who we could realistically attract and present some convinving evidence that they would secure more for the club in their first three years than the incumbant has.
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Hi
Ulster-Celt - Cheers for that.
Bhoy Molloy - LMAO.
Did you write that one?
What was your first game?
larkin1907 52
First Celtic v Rangers game was 1969 Scottish Cup Final 4-0
What a game that was.
C'Mon The Hoops
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GL2
last post is unfair
i`m in the same camp...i`m no hun BTW
behave yourself
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GL2;
just noticed the question.
For me Smith has put together a team that look organised and have a winning mentality.
We'll never have messi, beckham, ronaldo etc at parkhead so we have to live within our means and have football born of graft but with some skill mixed in to set us apart from the M'wells \ A'deens of the SPL.......but most of all I want to see a team that look likes they are not bemused by team selection \ tactics.
Under gordon have you ever decided what is his best 11....Jings crivens he works with teh squad in training every day and he sure as heck can't.....in his time in charge I've asked this question on here many times and I'm bemused.......how can that be?
I'm certainly no Smith lover and i don't actually like the man one little bit, but he organises players and gets them to run through brick walls for him (with help from MIB obviosuly)
Not sure if that's teh answer you're looking for but Gordon for me is a man that is NOW out of his depth and HE's lost the dressing room.....and when that happens teh team loses games, lots of them and have a look at our results in recent weeks.
Taxi for Mr Strachan.
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Bhoy Molloy
The names that appear, like Zenit (and Shaktar etc;) do not prove that European strength is weakening merely that it's moving to teams with more money.
Shaktar spent enough money to field a team of better players and failed to beat us. Zenit have spent much more than us too. Benfica spent double on Cardozo than we spent on Skoosh.
These financial disadvantages cannot go on without us dropping down the rankings. Mid-table and lower teams in EPL, La Liga and Serie A have squads that dwarf us in terms of spending and quality. the only thing that help there is that it is more important for them to remain in their cash rich leagues than to get UEFA success, hence Bolton's fielding of a reserve side in Lisbon.
WGS and Wattie have both confounded the odds in Europe this year. Rankers can only have got to where they have in Uefa because they failed to equal our CL achievment.
As a general happy clapper, future downsizing in Europe is my nightmare. Really hope I'm wrong.
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GL2
you have me in your camp; donati and jiri kept us in the champions league cos they kept us in possesion of the football.
wee lenny should that if they don't have the ball they can't score.
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pjdali
this man must go
a new man in may save BB , Riordan and Gravesen from the scrap heap play to the players you have not to some nonsense system ...Barnes tried that
disnae work
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Gordon
Thanks for that, nice bit of background.
Intersting as well.
RnR
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pfayr whit? I never accussed anyone of being a hun. I actually say im not accusing anyone fo being 1.
I hope im never jailed again in Ayr looking for a laywer!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Should?????
night night troops
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Strachan has lost confidence of the players.Scott McDonald calling him a f**** w****r coming off the field last week is indicative of this.He is a desperate man\
Time to go.
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swanseabhoy;
We are told by plenty of media pundits and managers who were offerred the Celtic managers job that it's one helluva job...and most would snap it up in an instant...as it's an amazing job with a fantastic club.
Whomever replaces Gordon has a very hard job ahead of them, and of that there is little doubt, but to imply that Gordon should stay simply because the next maanger could be worse makes no sense at all.....I trust the plc board won't pick the village idiot to be our next manager they will choose someone who they feel will take the team by the scruff of the neck and make it a winning team again.
At some time there will be a new man in the hotseat whether it's tomorrow, a year from now or 2 years from now and that new guy will bring with him new ideas and fresh impetus......
To put it plain I've lost faith Gordon and I believe so have HIS players.
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SFTB
Cardozo at this time is worth 10 Scott Browns
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blantyre
i will give you jarosik in europe
but donati was atrocious in these games too
he gave the ball away more than any other central midfielder i have seen
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RRB
listened to that game with ma dad on radio. You only got the second half then...but just before HT they announced that astonishing news was coming from Hampden. My dad say **** they must be 2-1 up. And then we heard the glorious news 3-0 to the Bhoys and GC takin the piss oot ofg old Greigy.
Happy days. My first OF was 2-2 Ibrox with Feed The Bear equilising during a huge but suddenly silent rendering of the Sash.
Night Night
WinonsundayandwellallfeelbetterCSC
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PJ Dali
Posters have been stating with confidence that WGS has lost the dressing room at regular intervals since Artmedia.
Why should we believe there's any more substance to it this time around?
Please don't cite Deeks article. Any player not being selected, because he wants a lazy life, is going to blame others for his misfortune.
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m molloy
so at what point in mons tenure did you want to sack him ?
(read this all - i am not comparing mon to wgs - i am not saying mon was good bad or anything)
just want to understand my fellow tims
was at after 1-5 ?
was it after ICT ?
was if after 7 games without a win against eck ?
was it after his transfer inactivity ?
was it after ecks scottish cup win ?
was it after ecks first league win ?
was it after not playing lubo or wee brazilian ?
was it after playing his faves too much ?
was it after not giving youth a chance ?
was it after his gentlemans agreement with leeds ?
was it after young boys ?
was it after black sunday ? ecks second league win ?
btw, i loved mon, but he had his flaws.
wgs, i like him, he has many flaws
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SFTB
Riordan was an early example of the manager`s pecadillos
there have been mant after him
Jarosik/gravesen/BB/PH et al
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Derbyshirebhoy 20:59 - great post.
Unfortunately there is not too much of that type of recognition about.
If WGS leaves at the end of this season, I truly believe that the next manager takes over a better situation than that which GS took over. Don't forget that Celtic were longer outsiders to win the league in his first season than Rangers were this season! Alex McLeish had won as many domestic trophies as Martin O'Neill in a lesser period the media rejoiced in telling us. Imagine what he was about to do to a Celtic team in transition.
Never quite happened - did it? (btw The Rangers fans similarly turned on McLeish and look what happened after he got ousted. Despite what success Rangers get THIS season, ultimately Walters Smiths brand of football will take Rangers backwards - if we keep clear heads)
This fact, along with a successful defence of the title, 1 league cup, 1 Scottish Cup and 2 last 16's in the Champions League means that in my view, Gordon Strachan can hold his head up high as a successful Celtic Manager. Absolutely underserving of some of the garbage that is posted on here.
All managers come with the guarantee that they will fail supporters expectations eventually.It's how that failure is taken by the supporters that determines the long term strength of that club.As the saying goes...its the support that gets managers the sack.
Whilst some of the criticisms of Gordon Strachan are valid, I genuinely don't see anyone out there (of the names mentioned as "real" candidates anyway) that will come into our club and satisfy season after season the demand to win the league.
I guess that our club means that much to us all that when we fail, it hurts us all badly...however forming opinions or making decisions when angry can often lead to bigger problems further upstream.
HAIL HAIL
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Blantyrekev I have said on here before that JJ was our most influential (hey I got that by spellchecker) player in Europe as he knew how to play the game against good clubs.
In the SPhell we need Scots like Scott oh thats right he has not done it but then again its all Massimo fault.
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Larkin1907, I think if you can remember the Lions play you are an auld hand.
GL2, cheers.
Ulster-celt, you can joke, but often when I raise a subject like this some… challenged individual.. comes on suggesting I am trying to calm down expectations.
Livibhoy, thanks.
Half and half, if we draw both Milan and Barca it does.
Gordon, I don’t know what the CQN’ers of 1965 would have made of Jock, but I remember the ‘feedback’ he received in 1975 when the team was failing and he refused to play Jinky, brining him on only for the last 10 minutes, not to mention 1978.
The galleries were as hard to please then as now and just as full of experts.
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sftb;
as to the dressing room....
I've no secret mole or webcam set up to get insider info, I just think the players don't go that extra yard for him anymore, I came to that conclusion using my own eyes and drawing personal conclusions.
It's my opinion and some will agree, others won't but the team is not playing well and hasn't now for a while.
If we all agreed on here it's be kinda boring and we'd all be swapping knitting patterns and stuff.......but we've a team that is misiring and I happen to think some players are now going through the motions and waiting for the bell to toll and the season to finish.
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pjdali
I can see your point....to a point, if that makes sense.
What keeps me awake at night is who we replace him with. Most of the names mentioned on here send a shiver of fear down my spine...not a tingle of excitment.
Honestly, I recognise Strachan's failings but I genuinely haven't seen or heard a single name mentioned that has inspired me. I suppose what I'm trying to say is -I'll live with sacking Strachan (despite his unarguable successes) but someone give me confidence that we can realistically replace him with someone better.
The question about what target we set the new guy for his fist three years was also genuine. Do we set the bar lower than Strachan's achievements. If not we're presenting him with pretty tall order.
I'm sincerely interested in understanding what a lot of Posters on here anticipate the next three years looking like if you/they get their wish and Starchan goes - voluntarily or involuntarily.
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devil
one mans garbage is another mans treasure
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pfayr
Benfica lost 0:3 at home to Coimbra tonight. Just maybe the Benfica quick news are calling him a waste of money too. My point was that these teams were paying that money and seem to be able to afford it.
nelsbhoy
The next day Skippy apologised for his reaction and he and Aiden were at pains to point out their close relationship with the coach. Now, I have no inside info but I could gossip with the best if I had a mind to. I really don't know whether his feelings expressed while being subbed were any more truthful than the regrets he expressed in cooler circumstances the next day. As such, I will continue to discount the gossip as having little validity.
Doesn't mean you're not right.
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Robson.Greatest thing since sliced Breed/Player of the Year?
3 Effin starts ahead of the duds.
Championship calling wee man(if yer lucky
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Spikeys
MON last two league titles on the last day of the season.
His cup defeat at Caley came after we had beaten Liverpool in the QF of the UEFA cup on our way to our first Euro final for 30 years.
Under him Lubo had his best 2 games in a Celtic jersey. Juventus at home and der Hun at Ibrox when Henke scored his 50th of the season.
At no point in his tenure did the team appear as spineless, rudderless and devoid of ideas as they do today.
Lets put this nonsense to bed once and for all. MON is 100 times the manager that WGS is.
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SFTB
BROWN would have been dropped by HIBS playing as he has
agree?
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PjDali
When do you think they stopped going the extra yard for him?
Does this apply to all players?
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for the donati dislikers out there
cast your mind back to before he lost the plot, remember if you will his strolling gait, as he waltzed past man after man before calmly stroking the ball home against aberdeen and from that tight angle against hearts at parkhead. remember his peach of a strike against shaktar :/)
he started out as pure class and people on here were waxing lyrical about him as the season gained momentum. that bhoy is a steal etc etc etc.
now look at the other constant in midfield scot brown, started the same way he even used to score
occasionally as well.
they are both stuck in reverse gear because they are not part of a team donati has lost all confidence you could see it against motherwell he has been subbed 15 times he knows the hook is coming in every game.
in fact the whole team is going backwards come to think of it and guess what gs has no answer never has had and never will. gs sadly is the common denominator they played against well' like a bunch of strangers who are fed up, listening to gs.
look at the press conference today same old rhetoric we must take our chances, any change of tactics?
no chance just keep playing the way you been failing and you'll succeed - ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh
teas oot.
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sftb
Apology or not, Weak Management.He is a desperate man treading deep water.
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TO ALL
wew are getting a hiding at this time
my son is 14 and thinks that CELTIC should win all the time
show you how long it`s been
we are not unlucky ...OUR MANAGER IS CRAP
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i'm gonna stick up for donati. i think he can offer us something different from the midfield, the ability to see passes. he needs help in the centre though. i think he's been unlucky that he's come to a new league and he's playing alongside a talented but very naive young player. it can't be easy, especially when there are others not pulling their weight. so leave off him! :)
we need to come together, not rip ourselves apart
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gerry - I've never known Levein personally just going by my impression of him in interviews.
JJ67 22.28 - Billy Davies is a failed hun from the early 80s. I also remember him doing his nut after Murderwell had played 10 at the back at Celtic Park and held out for 85 minutes before Lubo put a sublime free-kick past Goram. He claimed they were so unlucky and deserved a point when they hardly got over their own halfway line and were in danger of getting football banned.
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pfayr
I don't think so but it does not really answer the question because we need him to operate at a higher level than the options in the Hibs midfield, where Beuzelin and Zemmama are your comparators.
We both agree Scotty needs to play better but there's a good player in there.
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BOURNE
there both lilian gish
HOW ABOUT THAT ?
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PFayr
Apart from half the team being mince and the manager useless...
Do you have anything positive to say?
OK, your in charge now.What do you do? who do you appoint?
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is gordon strachan the destroyer of central midfielders?
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spikeys it will be interesting to see how many replies you get.
DBBIA hit it on the head earlier when he said Ferguson got it easy due to man u not having won anything for years before he took over.
We have too many 'supporters' who have not went through bad teams. We are all hurting listening to a huns team who in reality have won at present a league cup but the potential to win 4 cups. In my life I have saw the huns win trebles more than us winning against them including against Jock and MoN.
This huns team potentially have the opportunity to be the best huns team for 30 years or maybe the biggets bottlers....until proven im looking at the second option.
When you ask a question on this blog in support of our club none of the mineshafters who all think they are picked on answer.
its dead easy to be critical back up your statements.
who would you have as the new manager who would deliver every year?
tell us all Bobos injury record and how he can improve the second best defensive record in europe
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nelsbhoy
What was weak about it?
Either he got an apology or he would have been dropped.
Would you have preferred that he transfer listed a previously successful goal scorer? Punched him? Freed him?
Remember Jinky with Big Jock. In the heat of the moment, players react. Sometimes we read too much into that and it becomes like fishwives discussing Corrie as we go over the bones of something insignificant.
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pfayr 23.30....
"one mans garbage is another mans treasure"
i'm half canned....possibly i need to be fully canned to understand your point.
referring to your previous description of a successful celtic manager (at point of writing 100% success rate in league title delivery)as an "imposter" who "couln't manage a pub team". Would you consider this post as a treasure???
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PFayr, are you a post Fergus Celtic fan? You are a spoiled brat.
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smelltheglove
no idea
i`m not in charge
i`m a lifelong
eejit of a fan who is hurting at this time
IMO anything is better
WE CAN BE STUFFED WHEN WE HAVE NO MONEY /REBUILDING STADIUMS ...NOT NOW
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timmy7
GTF
I STOOD IN HAMPDEN IN THE DARK DAYS
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The atmosphere seems to be getting a bit personal again.
I'm away to my kip.
Goodnight all.
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Team full of average players coming from below average clubs who are now on above average wages selected by well below average manager.
If they are not well and truly pumped next week wee man you must walk.We need some pride back.
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a couple of adjustments by wgs,..a win on wednesday and were back in business...its a funny old game.
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pfayr
'no idea' - Exactly. Says it all really.
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pfayr
most unpfayrish tonight you are.
i think donati is a lightweight, and has had many chances, and will probably move on without making it at celtic.
scott brown is a bigger worry to me, cos of the fee.he plays like 'one of them' . I've never seen a celtic player that comes in late so often and stares at the opponent in a challeange to a fight.
he does it week in week out and he doesn't care about the bookings.
there was a newspaper story we turned down sam alardyce and his 12million on the seasons eve, - what a mistake that could turn out to have been.
he doesn't fit into a team because we have no team
under wgs.
the problem is the manager imo
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PFayr
You could be hurting a lot more if the people in charge reacted the way you do.
Until such times as we are offically told otherwise, we ARE the current champions!
In 10 years time we will be having dinners commemorating Gordon Strachans double league winning tenure.
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I lost a massive angry post that would probably have been chopped for language violations anyway but in summary:
1. This IS a G.O.D. (compared to my formative paying supporter years)
2. I don't believe many of the mineshafters who claim to have attended durng the huns NIAR - judging by their chucking the towelness at this season.
3. That's pretty much it, edited for saying 'go forth...' to all the whinging, manager hating, tactical genius, malcontents out there. Feel free to go shopping on a Saturday.
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swanseabhoy;
I just typed out a big reply and blogger lost my post....yet another error; would swear but P67would delete another post of mine.
I agree that the prospect of a new manager is a nervy affair what we expect as Celtic supporters xpect is possibly unrealstic (to win every game \ title \ cup ....but that is the Celtic managers job......to win titles, cups and show well on the european stage.
Somewhere out there is another great manager such as Wenger, Ferguson, Stein or MON........the hard part is finding him and putting him at the helm of celtic. I trust in those with the power to find us that manager.....
sftb;
I don't think all the players are waltzing around whistling dixie during the game and have a dislike for Gordon, but when naylor can play as poorly as he does week in week out and not be dropped is it any suprise that we've guys who know they can deliver zilch, nada, zero every other weeka and still get a game.....it has to cause unrest and I reckon we see it on the field of play.
JVoH upped his game when Samaras appeared...many said so. Why did it take competition to see that in him?
Brown has been a shadow of the player he can be.....I just think thi is a guy who's like a kid in the park...get the ball out and lets play football......but he's presented with drawings and crayins and all sorts of tactical wizardy....just think teh guy doesn't look happy any longer and hasn't for quite some time
I might be 100% wrong but you can't tell me this team look like a bunch of guys who want to run to their manager when they score a goal as if they were one big happy family....it's only my opinion....crazzt as it may sound..but it's the only one I've got.
Hail Hail
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michael collins
leading up to black sunday
only stan got pass marks
spineless wasnt the word
juventus and the huns game - nothing to play for
basically you are saying you would never have sacked him - the good times outweighed the bad - if so agree 100%
same thing does not apply to wgs from many on here tho
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Smelltheglove
Please explain to me how we could be hurting a lot more. Are there any competitions left we havent been put out of.
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At 11/04/08 23:08, Blogger Rock & Roll Bhoy said…
Hi
Ulster-Celt - Cheers for that.
Bhoy Molloy - LMAO.
Did you write that one?
What was your first game?
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Not sure m8. Early 90's when a home game was around 20k. Before I moved to the Republic in 93 I was a member of the Ballymena Shamrocks CSC.
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SWANSEABHOY
keep watching the telly
bourne
had enough mate ,,,,too much for me
no analytical explanation available
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PFayr, eloquently put.
Thanks you've confirmed my thoughts. Top of the brat class
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One of my worries is Paul Hartley seems to be lauded as some Celtic Hero.
He is a Rank Rotten ex Edinburgh Hun who should never have got the chance to wear the Jersey after giving us the single finger salute at the School end.(and as slow as a week in the jail)
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spikeysAuldMan said...
m8 I always knew MON would deliver the goods. I always knew Strachan was an arse of a manager. Coventry and Southampton said it all.
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timmy7
sad deluded man
i know all about being as good as your last game
do you ?
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bhoy molloy
was big ian in that csc?
ulster-celt
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Michael Collins
As ststed we are currently the champions.
If you want to know about hurting ,choose any season pre-2000 and post 1990. Thats hurting!
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timmy7
Get aff the Wacky Backy.
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pfayr
Keep watching the telly? Is that code for something?
pjdali
Sympathise re Blogger - it's a mare.
In May '11 would you anticipate looking for another manager if the guy the powers that be appoint delivers two titles, two Scottish Cups and two CL last 16 spots?
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Timmy7...
SUNDAY...
o1bhoy
whoshopsonlineCSC
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Spikeys
A couple of games before Black Sunday we took the trousers off the huns at their own midden in the Craig Bellamy show.
What chance our current team doing that.
We were poor that year by MON's high standards but a million miles better than we are now.
The Juventus game we were still in the hunt for qualification and there's always something at stake in huns games.
If MON had capitualted to a poor huns team due to inept signings, lack of tactical ability and a habit of continaully playing players who are off form or mince or both then yes I would have sacked him.
I repeat at no point in MON's tenure were we as depressingly poor as we are today.
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New article posted.
Bhoy Molloy, you did always think Gordon Strachan was a loser, but you were wrong about him for two leagues and two Champions Leagues.
Both he and Martin won and lost leagues, one did well in the Uefa Cup and one in the CL, I fail to see the merit in painting a stark difference between the two which does not exist.
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Boy Malloy (without the H)
fyi, GS took southampton to an FA cup final and their highest league position since the inception of the Premiership. After he left, they went into freefall and were relegated. Not even the much vaunted George Burley (who some on here would have us believe would've hammered Gordon Strachan had the jammed farts not sacked him mid season) has been able to get remotely close to what Gordon Strachan delivered for that club.
Some are so blind that they cannot see!
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pfayr
very unfair on wee ginger people you've been
tonight.
maybe we will bounce back on sunday. but i guess you've only weeks to wait until you get your new man.
then the fun will really start undoing what's been done.
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We should always be measured by results against them.In my small minded opinion nothing else.
Not good enough Gordon.The Oppressed need ammunition.
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swanseabhoy;
it's a very fair question......
If I seen my time fight like lions and give their all for the jersey in 99% of teh games they play and lose the title I'd think to myself it simply wasn't to be .....but I'd feel very proud of the team and the club and know we'd be back bigger, fitter, stronger and hungrier next season to win that title back.
If I seen a team play like we are and watch the same non performers play week in week out and watch a manager who really does seem to know how to change our fortunes then I'd say thank you.......time for a new manager.
I don't see a team right now that has the gritty taste for a fight or one that can go on a winning run of 7 games........I really hope I'm so wrong.....but I can only tell it like I see it.
I'm now away off to my scratcher.........cheers for the chat
hail hail
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pfayr 23.47
Why were you going to watch Queen's Park during our dark years.If you mean our Hampden year did you not have a seat like everybody else.
That year was easy to take(at least we won the SC) compared to the previous 6 when we won hee haw meaning I was 24 before I could legally celebrate Celtic winning a trophy with a good drink.
