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Morning all
First of 200.......
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I really am sick and tired of this type of comment and our verbose but fruitless conversation around it.
Kojo, lack of leadership you say. I agree, what we need is an agitative state, not reluctant acceptance.
Not completely up to speed with the management structure of the Herald Group or how it fits into the wider Newsquest Media Group.
From what I can gather Tom Thomson is the Group Managing Editor, Tom's role encompasses the Herald & Times Group, which includes The Herald, Evening Times, Sunday Herald, magazines and s1.
(For those of you who have business relationships with any of these elements of their business may wish to ask how Newsquest intends to deal with staff who not only alienate a sizeable part of the population and therein business customers but also pander to the bigoted element of Scottish society.)
Nothing short of a full retraction and apology is required. There is absolutely no comment from them whatsoever that I can see. Evidence I take it of tacit approval from within this publications management.
I have discovered that Newsquest are the largest newspaper group in America, they certainly have a sizeable customer base who'd be appalled at this type of editorial. If we don't have a voice or a leader in Scotland then lets expand the party, Paul Davidson is Newsquest's Chairman and Chief Exec .
www.newsquest.co.uk/people/
Incidentally here is Newsquests Mission Statement:
Newsquest's objective is to have market-leading brands disseminating local information in a number of different and simultaneous ways, which reflect the views and aspirations of the communities they serve. Our multi-media brands must be the authoritative source of information that customers can trust; being willing to listen but not afraid to question.
If we are to take this on to the next level what I propose the following:
1. Submit a request for clarification from Newsquest on their policy of sectarian commentary.
2. Ask them to provide a condemnation in each of their mediums condemning these comments. 3. CC this request to the Managing Editor of the Herald Group, Managing Editor of Sunday Herald, Sports Editor of the Sunday Herald.
Expected Outcome:
A swift response, rebutting the comments and publication of a retraction with heads rolling. If not then we take it to the next level. I'm open to suggestions.
How:
Need email addresses for issuing.
The main board or the Managing Editors do not have published email addresses, can anyone help as to how to obtain?
notreadytoletitlie csc
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" Rangers were also presented with the Best Matchday Hospitality award. "
Why?
Would hospitality not also include entertainment?
What are Rangers offering behind closed doors as on the park its very dull.
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Paul
Thought you'd come through. Have been hanging around for a new thread tonight.
Hope being on the road doesn't keep you away from the game tomorrow night:o)
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Morning, long time lurker, thought i would share the following: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/7347583.stm
seems its starting already the big build up, surprisingly no shouts for Mark Mcghee in the vein of Jefferies las year! And how about Cuellar, "He has featured in every league game and has helped the Ibrox side secure 14 clean sheets while conceding the fewest goals in the SPL. ", why allow facts to get in the way?
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Andycolo,
It wasn't suggested - it was stated as fact. They ARE separate.
The point was that if you want to complain about what has appeared in the Sunday Herald, CONTACT the SUNDAY HERALD.
If you are annoyed about what appears in The Sun, you don't write to the Times. If you are annoyed at what appears in the Metro, you don't contact the Daily Mail.
And for that matter, if The Beano causes offence you needn't bother trying to get satisfaction from the Sunday Post.
The Sunday Herald has its own editor and its own sports editor. Directing complaints to them is far more effective than complaining to The Herald or, for that matter USA Today, which is also owned by Gannett, which is Newsquest's parent company.
Incidentally, this guy is obviously a no-account freelance, who has damaged the Sunday Herald's reputation (though he shouldn't have been allowed to). The should and may well punt him as was the case with the guy in a tabloid who made the pun about Packie Bonner.
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Kraljski,
I can only assume 'Matchday Hospitality' did not include sampling the food when the panel were there on official duty.
Who ate all the flies?
Who ate all the flies?
Big fat DJ
Big Fat DJ
and he swallowed all their lies
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Am I false in saying though that IF an article is palced to be published, that it must go through a number of hands and checks in order for it to be printed?
I'd be more than happy to email a complaint, I have done so so far through the contact us option on both Sunday Heralds site and Celtics.
It's time the club came out and spoke out about such comments as i said earlier, these comments are becoming far too frequent.
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One Star
Sorry but I'm more of a Dandy myself! Desperate Dan - wis he no a Dandy man?
Who wis the guy that ate coo pies?
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One Star,
I spoke to my mate this evening. He worked at the Sunday Herald for a few months a while back and knows Ken Hodgart.
My mate described him as a "decent guy, quite funny" and also mentioned that he was an Aberdeen fan, which would support the link i posted earlier stating he had produced/written for the Aberdeen matchday programme.
He has written several pieces for the Sunday Herald for quite a while, so any excuse that he is an unknown quantity to them should be disregarded instantly.
I hope he gets his P45 soon
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Best pre match hospitality?
Now that really bugs me!
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aaaarrgghh
DD was in the Beano.
Goodnight from me and goodnight from him.
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GL2 from the previous thread, tomorrow's Herald are reporting on the POTY awards. Whether it's actually true or not, I couldn't say.
They didn't comment on whether or not Cuellar is a bead-rattler.
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Best away ground... Tynecastle.
Reason: Quick, give it an award, the vile midden might not be there next year.
'Flats, flats, luxury flats'
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Dick Byrne
How are you my friend and those closest to you? We don't forget.
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El Diego Bhoy - I heard you were a dandy man but Celtic is an inclusive club!
Left Winger - When I say "no account", I mean he is so irrelevant that he probably wouldn't be able to make a ripple if he was punted - not that there was any excuse for his comments being published. IIRC, a tabloid had a guest columnist who made the "Packie" pun, prompting complaints about racism, and the paper issued a statement that he would not be working fro them again.
As for emails, with papers addresses are usually firstname.lastname@webaddress
So the SH contacts (would be richard.walker@sundayherald.com or michael.grant@sundayherald.com, I think.
My mole's information (No, I'm not Hugh Keevins) is that the other two would be tim.blott@glasgow.newsquest.co.uk and tom.thomson@glasgow.newsquest.co.uk
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One Star
Brought a real laugh from me. Good on ye.
Now where's that mcgrory character?
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Hartley and Robson a must for central midfield definitely.
No point in debating McGeady or Naka as both will play.
Therefore it is surely time for our man from Japan to deliver a feast in this fixture. After last Thursday he owes it to himself as much as to us.
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How to beat Rangers?
Vary the crosses from high,
90% of the time.
Low and hard to the edge of the 6 yard box,the penalty spot and
the edge of the penalty box.
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EDB,
Thanks for the kind words, both tonight & previously. I'd like to say that things are getting easier but I'm not sure it would be true.
The support we're receiving from everyone has been a real comfort, however & I'm including CQN in that.
Night all.
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paul67
i agree with wot u sat about Robson and Hartley
but i would also put Hikel in there to support Naka
and go 3 at the back!!
somehow with wgs i dont think so!!
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Dick Byrne
Goodnight to you and yours.
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OPEN QUESTION
Can someone explain to me why the season awards are decided several weeks before the end of the season?
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TrueTim
CONGRATULATIONS to you and yours.
Hopefully our team will ensure 2008 won't only be remembered for young Ryan's arrival.
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Paul67 :- I agree with you on this one that the midfield will be the decider. My feeling just now is that we will play it much like an away European game with a 4 - 1 - 4 - 1 formation.
This will allow us to hopefully nullify Mr McGeady b having two (Davis, Broadfoot) players on him when he is in our hald with the ball, if needed this could be taken up to three with the holding midfielder helping out. This brings the danger of leaving a gap for Mr McDonald to run at the central defence as I think that is our weakness, a fast direct player running at the central defenders.
Hopefully though the holding midfielder would be able to stay in position thus meaning Mr McDonald has an extra layer to penetrate before getting into the danger zone.
If things are going well for us this can be changed into more of a 4-3-3 with Davis on one side and either Thompson or L. McCulloch on the left supporting and supplying D. Cousin.
The centre of the midfield will be where it's one or lost in my opinion and I can see both sides nullifying each other.
It wouldn't surprise me if this one ended in a no score draw.
As always with a Rangers v Celtic game my views are subject to change on an almost hourly basis :-)
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anyone?
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ED
2 players(?) on McGeady.
You havnae got 2 players in your whole team.
Prepare for the first burst bubble in the Wattie Master tactician theory on Wednesday.
How do you cope with losing the first goal?
BTW
How did hearts win Best Fans Initiative?
Is it because they've doubled their fan base by signing the same amount of players as they had fans.
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One Star Means More,
Thanks for the email addresses, have just finished sending correspondence to Newsquest/Sunday Herald, Dr John Reid and John Swinney. Cardinal O'Brien is next...
Dear Mr Swinney,
As my constituency MSP, can you please let me know your position on the use of "bead rattlers" as a reference for Roman Catholics? This phrase was used in the above newspaper.
As a practicing Roman Catholic I find it utterly distasteful and reprehensible. To date this newspaper has issued no retraction or condemnation.
As One Scotland, Many Cultures is an infant initiative can you please request a motion that condemns this use of language. As someone with close links to the media I'm sure you are also appalled at the use of this language and of the need to publicly condemn such language.
I do not know which department is responsible for One Scotland, Many Cultures, is it Justice? As it appears that this has become One Scotland, Many Cultures, No Voice.
Can you ensure that this correspondence is passed to the relevant department and that I am informed as to when the motion will be raised.
I have sent the following correspondence to Dr John Reid requesting that he may act as a vehicle for a concerted voice against this apparent accepted insanity.
Dear Dr Reid,
I write in response to an article published in the "Sunday Herald". I'm sure you are aware of this article and that this is likely not the only correspondence which you have received.
Over the last few years a perception has developed within the media at large in Scotland that it is acceptable to denigrate Celtic FC and a sizeable element of its support. I need not quote them as I'm sure you are more than aware of them, needless to say the instances are not insignificant in quantity.
Normally I'd tend to take the moral high ground and think it best to ignore them. However it appears that this is becoming common place and alarmingly sectarian in nature. As a practicing Catholic and a supporter of this club I am sickened by what I read in the press, hear and read at football matches, and see that religious observance can lead to legitimate cautioning.
It feels that we are being publicly ridiculed through not only the media, but also from the law enforcement and legal profession which should be defending us. There is no concerted voice to defend. One Scotland, Many Cultures is becoming a joke.
Can you please assure me that you in your capacity as Chairman you have made representations to the Gannett Group and each of the parent companies of newspapers/media outlets peddling this material?
I'm sending a similar letter to Cardinal O'Brien and John Swinney MSP asking for representations to be made public.
When you took over the mantle as Chairman of Celtic FC, I remember you commenting that politics would be left at the door. Can you please assure me that you will represent those who do not have a voice and are on the receiving end of this vile commentary through becoming the articulate vehicle through which a concerted campaign voice can scream out against this insanity?
Yours sincerely,
Dear Mr Thomson,
Can you please let me know your position on the use of "bead rattlers" as a reference for Roman Catholics? As a customer of yours for the last 20 years and a practicing Roman Catholic I find it utterly distasteful and reprehensible that your organisation has not moved to swiftly disassociate yourselves from this comment.
My next step is to write to Paul Davidson of Newsquest and Craig Dubow of Gannett requesting their position and action re this matter.
Yours sincerely,
Perhaps those of our congregation with greater literacy may want to amend this template...
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half and half...
Don't Know...
I was hoping 6 POTY Performances would Win it for Robson...
o1bhoy
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And us the League...
o1bhoy
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cHico Esteban at 00:14,
I agree, why should the BBC bother with facts these days in the press. If people think Rangers have a better defence then let's tell people they have conceded less even if it isn't true.
In the spirit of letter/email writing that is going around tonight however I dropped them a message pointing out their rather elementary mistake with reference to their own league table - one which is accessible directly from the articles page.
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o1,
Thanks for the reply,
I must'nt be part of the clique.
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Apologies for not picking up on the person who made the comments but heres a few replies.
Defaming the dead - You can't defame the dead in this country. Pretty sure the huns were well aware of this when they began their campaign against the great Jock Stein. It must be painful for them to wonder what it might have been like had their bigotry not alienated two of the most successful managers Scotland has produced, Jock Stein and Alex Ferguson.
Andrew Smith/The Sting - I don't think it was Andrew Smith who was set up and had to resign from the Celtic View. What does ring a bell was a get together of both Celtic and rangers fanzines and official publications way before Andrew Smith was at Celtic Park. Turns out that bastion of tolerance and free speech, follow follow, secretly recorded the whole meeting where the then editor of the Celtic View confirmed he had been a member of the 'Troops Out' movement.
The subsequent scandal forced him to resign which is pretty laughable when you consider what political associations were deemed acceptable over ibrox way at that time.
The Herald/Sunday Herald - Further evidence of the sad decline of a newsgroup that will shortly be no more than a decent regional newspaper. The only part of that group that makes money is the weekly property section which means estate agents and valuers in Glasgow need never worry about negative stories about any underhand practices.
Given the plummeting circulation figures for the Scottish Sundays I would guess they would feel the pain of a boycott a lot more than the daily record will.
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One Real Star
David
Dee Cee
YOur right in saying that the Scottish branch of Newsquest is in slow decline and that only Property, Recruitment (dipping)& Motoring offers any real profit in terms of advertising.
If you want to write to someone with clout and that actually takes an active issue in these matters, try regional MD
tim.blott@glasgow.newsquest.co.uk
One real star
Would you write to Willie Mcstay if a reserve player had acted irresponsibly or would you write to Peter Lawell?
Hence my previous post. Hope this clears it up.
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Dinky Diamond - Newsquest's profits from recruitment are all but gone. The first place people look for jobs these days is online and if property goes the same way they are in serious trouble. Not sure about Motoring mind you.
All the Evening Times does these days is follow up on that days Herald stories and throw in some expertly written, world exclusives from Derek Johnston and Tosh McKinlay.
As for the Sunday Herald, last round of ABC were -
"Newsquest's Sunday Herald recorded a 9.5% year-on-year circulation drop. But its 1.6% month-on-month gain was not enough to get back above the 50,000 mark as it recorded an average sale of 49,876 in March."
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Peter Grant in the Herald:
"Win it. Nothing else. Don't care how you play. Whatever it takes to win it, do it."
That'll do me tomorrow night.
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Paul you are om the right track. but you miss the reason why they win the second ball
Five in midfieldI have been saying for three months 4/4/3 struggles against 4/5/1not only the huns make us struggle most teams that play us have set up 4/5/1 because they know it frustrates us and we cant get behind themI expect a frustrating night on Wednesday - but passion if nothinf else will see us throughCome on Celtic
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Paul Shun
Motherwell V Celtic
59mins, Lee Naylor throw in
Mothwerwell 'fan' right behind him
"Naylor ya fcukin fenian Basturk"
clear as anything
Lets just say that he works in the same industry as me Paul and i think he may even work for the same company
If I find out he does I will be getting footage of the incident and submitting it to ensure he is sacked
Harsh? Most certainly not
If the police wont do anything and I can then i will
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sorry - last post should obviously read 4/4/2 not 4/4/3 although it would be handy
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To me its quite simple. Celtic fc should write to the rag involved and say your banned from attending press conferences etc. Oh the preverbial would hit the fan then, the orange eyed boys of the Scottish press would be up in arms.
Well I say let them. Its time the wider world became aware of the facts and IMO it would do no harm for the worlds media to ask questions, like why have some of our own been banned in a wee country like Scotland.
Departing for a moment. I was amused, bemused, bewilldered by a party political broadcast on behalf of the English democrats. Matt O`connor,
(couldnt make it up),(previously fathers for justice) headed the broadcast. In his cheap thirties ganster type suit, dodgy sun glasses and gelled hair that a teen would be proud of, he quickly established that it was Scotland and the "Jocks" who were to blame for Englands woes.
Referring to them the "jocks" on several occasions it would appear many an Englander wants an end to the Union. Something to do with subsidization :). Just tickled me to think of how the Union brigade in bonnie Scotland would react to such propaganda. Appears many down south do indeed want the union done away with. Just thought I would share that little ditty with you.
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McGEADY WON'T THROW IN THE TOWEL...
Celtic winger Aiden McGeady is convinced they can give Rangers a "run for their money" in the title race after rediscovering their form at Fir Park...
Taken from sportinglife.com...
o1bhoy
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SFTB :- You say
"2 players(?) on McGeady.
You havnae got 2 players in your whole team."
What can I say, inacurate but funny :-)
"How do you cope with losing the first goal? "
I'm sure Dun. U could tell you though I'm think that was more of a rhetorical question :-)
HalfandHalf :- That does seem a bit puzzling, I think the best way to find out would be to e-mail one of the journalists who give out their address and ask a player at a fan night. I hadn't thought of it before but once you raised it it did seem a bit odd.
BTW if you hanf around long enough you eventually become a member of one of the cliques through some sort of cyber osmosis.
E.U
Member real ale and long winded post cliques :-)
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For some reason none of the sport stories on the herald website have the option of posting a comment on them today.
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deecee,
The Herald never has a comment facility on any story involving Celtic - it gets hijacked by, shall we say, undesirable elements!
This Player of the Year stuff is nonsense. Am I right in thinking that these are awarded by Clydesdale Bank? Someone else for our bhoycott list?
Interestingly, I just looked at the BBC story again. While the page notes the last update at 11:30 last night, the paragraph about Rangers conceding the least goals in the league has been deleted.
Are the BBC now fact checking through CQN??
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Gordon_J
I just emailed the BBC about 10 mins ago letting them know that their facts were incorrect.
Fair play to them for changing the article.
Mort
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I did send them an email at the time c. 12am, somebody must have been working the nightshift.
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Fred C. Dobbs (previous article) couldn't agree with you more with regards the Stachan GTF a week ago on sat. That is not for me and I couldn't believe we as supporters have stooped to that level. I won't mention, exactly what level I mean as that will get you into trouble with the likes of fan-a-tic.
While I'm on the subject fan-a-tic, I did try to ignore your comment 2 articles ago @ 01:11 but my frustration just keeps on building. Your comment "On this blog i have already been told by another poster that he was a better celtic fan than me after i criticised him for telling Celtic supporters he disagreed with to get a season ticket to ibrox.
The irony made me chuckle." This was in reference to correspondence between you and me around a month ago. I apologise if this is still rankling with you but I will make 2 points very clear and did so at the time.
1. I most certainly did not say that I was a better Celtic Fan than you. That is something you misconstrued from my post at the time and I clarified this in a later post which by my mind you accepted.
2. I am not a better Celtic Fan than any other Celtic Fan out there. I will also add that their are a lot of Celtic Fans out there who are far better Celtic Fans than me and by that I do not mean they toe the party line and don‘t criticise before you go off on one again..
Yes I did say that the fans that boo at end of games should go buy a season book at Ipox as that is their way. I stand by this comment. It in now way was meant to term all the boo bhoys huns but just to highlight that we have slowly this season become more and more like them (especially this season) by the booing at half time and full time when things are not going our way. Booing at Ipox has been going on ever since I can remember and I used to get so much enjoyment from listening to their fans wallow in their own muck but it now appears that this is acceptable in paradise too as it has slowly crept into our stadium over the last few years and has become more vocal by the game. Again, for you benefit, I will state that every fan of our team has the right to criticise Celtic in anyway they feel especially those who pay hard cash to follow their heroes. But when at a game I go to support our team no matter how well or badly they are playing, no matter how happy or frustrated I am when watching them. Celtic deserve to be fully supported and backed vocally throughout the ninety minutes plus as we are superior to all others. Booing and Strachan GTF resounding around our magnificent stadium does not in anyway help our team in a positive manner and is slowly bringing us down to their level.
‘Faithful Through and Through’ ring any bells?
Hail Hail
Celtic 3 - Rankers 1 on Wednesday and the title is once again a real possibility.
Onwards and upwards to 3-in-a-row.
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Edward
In response to my question- "What will Rangers do if they lose the first goal?"
You said:-
"I'm sure Dun. U could tell you though I'm think that was more of a rhetorical question :-)"
So, that's the master plan then. You're going to rely on a suicidal back pass from a Celtic player to squeak an ill-deserved draw.
Wattie is indeed a tactical genius.
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SFTB :- If that's the way it goes I'd be happy with the result. While I would love a win a draw would suit me just fine in this one. I think if Celtic are to have any chance of the title they have to take six points from the two games against us. I honestly don't see this happening and think if we take one point from the two games that will be enough.
Our two games in hand are against Gretna and St Mirren and I don't see us dropping points against either.
Sadly I'll have to watch this one in the pub as I didn't get a ticket si I'll miss the traditional warm welcome that is normally exteded to me and my fellow fans when we visit Celtic Park.
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edward
Is your game in hand not against Motherwell rather than Gretna?
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EdwardUrsus...
Which of the following do you think is more improbable...
1. Rangers to Win the UEFA Cup...
OR
2. Celtic to Win the League...
o1bhoy
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Mort :- You are correct, I don't know what made me think Gretna, maybe wishful thinking. To be honest I'd still expect us to take full points.
o1bhoy :- I would have to say that Celtic lifting the title is the more unlikely. I'm basing this on the fact that if Rangers win all their games in the UEFA cup then they get the trophy, they can even still manage it with two draws and a win. Celtic even if they win all their games in the league still need other results to go their way.
Much as I'd love to see the former I don't think I'd bet the house on either.
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Occasionally I have a wee look at the Whistleblower section in the SFA site.
Referee Calum Murray felt the need to explain the recent Bob Malcolm red card for `a high and reckless challenge`.
However he added that he was `disappointed by apparant remarks made post match and during the radio commentary vindicating a tackle such as this.`
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Ok what odds do you think we will have a on a new nationality scoring against Rangers for Celts tomorrow (21 different in the last 30 odd years - and no that's not a quiz question.) Potentially we have 3 more tomorrow Greece (Samaras), NZ (Killen), Japan (Naka or Mizuno)
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ianinjesi,
Notice he said "disappointed" but not "surprised".
Was there anything on the whistleblower site about the failure to award Celtic a penalty when Scott Brown was being held onto at Ibrox, or the failure to issue a second yellow card for Kevin Thompson's dive, or the failure to issue a yellow card for Kris Boyd's dive?
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Mort
It's not often I'll say this but I actually think Dougal had a pretty good match even though he got two crucial decisions against us wrong.
The Scott Brown pen was a tough call. On the first two viewings it looked to me like a tangle of legs. Clearly he was fouled but it's a sad fact that in these days of diving most refs seem to presume that not hitting the ground means there is no shout for a penalty. Also, I may be wrong but I don't think SB made much of a call. All those things make it understandable that Dougal should get that one wrong - though his assistant has less of an excuse.
The Thomson dive was a difficult one because it was the most shameful piece of gamesmanship I have seen since Craig Gordon pretended to be unconscious to get Dean Shiels sent off.
It's easy to say that a ref shouldn't be fooled, shouldn't be swayed etc., but sometimes even diving gets a player hurt. Dougal was left to think of pictures of him showing a red card to a man on a stretcher, who might actually have had something wrong.
I remember Paul Gascoigne's knee injury in the FA Cup final when everyone could see that he should have been sent of but the ref later admitted he just couldn't show him a red card as he was being carried off. It was a wrong decision and it probably cost Notts Forest the cup but it was understandable.
Ideally we would have better officiating and much of it is totally unfair but sometimes I think we have to take a step back.
Of greater concern, though, is the fact that Rangers players apparently believe they can breach the rules with utter impunity. And the lies that followed the KT dive said much about the standards at Ibrox and the much-vaunted dignity and integrity of Walter Smith.
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Mort,
No, no and no.
The oldest decision on the list from december 2006 was Kenny Clark saying he should have awarded a penalty for Celtic at Ibrox last season when Lennon was fouled. :-)
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How to beat rangers?
Play Dianbobo Balde exclusively for this game.
Or Position Barry Robson around the edges of the opposition box after any coners , free kicks with a shoot on sight policy.
An early goal will settle the nerves and we'll allow ourselves time to play our game. High tempo from the off.
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The Sunday Herald response from Richard Walker, typos included:
"We are currently looking at why this refrence was included in the first place and how it slipped through our production system. We are also formulating a response for the newspaper next week. In the meantime I can only sincerely aplogise and assure you wer are treating this matter very seriously,"
I have asked for a full retraction on their website.
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David,
Well done with the letters.
Looks like a fair initial response from Walker to me.
Sore knuckles around the SH sports desk, I fear.
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Agreed David, well done. I'll be interested to see what the response is from JR.
By my reckoning this season we have already had from the Media the Setanta potato famine comment, the Setanta 'sinister gestures comment, the DR BJC caption, and now this.
Daft neds with a sheet and a paintbrush are perhaps less easy to police but we deserve better from the press and TV. Hit them where it hurts- don't buy their papers, and don't subscribe to their TV channel.
PS Walker clearly doesn't post on CQN with spelling like that!
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Lets see how serious they regard this matter with the severity of punishment or the lengths they propose to go to ensure it does not happen again, and if it does what sanctions they will take.
In retrospect the Press Complaints Authority would've been an option for escalation, perhaps those in the know can advise of the value in this.
Think I'll change my id to wouldntletitlie csc or notpreparedtoignorethiscrapanymore csc.
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ED...
The Bookmakers as you probably know are never far off the mark Quote...
Rangers to Win the UEFA Cup @ 9/2...
AND
Celtic to Win the League @ 9/2...
ED...I think Rangers have a good chance to Win...
But...Everybody seem to think Celtic have very Little Chance of Winning the League...
Just check any Newspaper and you will find 9/2 Chances Win Every Day...
o1bhoy
p.s. Maybe we should bet the ''DOUBLE''ED... ha ha...
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One Star said:
"I remember Paul Gascoigne's knee injury in the FA Cup final when everyone could see that he should have been sent of but the ref later admitted he just couldn't show him a red card as he was being carried off."
Although I seem to remember that being stretchered off didn't stop the ref sending off Paul Lambert having lost half his teeth as he clearly tried to bite a Rangers' players boot.
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one star
I agree with all you said and on first viewings both decisions looked correct from the referee and they don't have any video evidence to back up their decisions.
It would have been nice but for Dougal to come out and admit he was wrong, not that it would do us one bit of good.
I can't agree that Dougal had a good game because, to me anyway, he appeared to stop the game too often when we were attacking and he gave free kicks to rangers when for the same offence against celtic he waved them on.
I know I watch games through green tinted specs so i will always see things that I think go against us and probably miss some decisions that go for us.
Anyway, that game is in the past and it's wednesday we have to worry about now.
A good win would put down a marker for the rest of the season and even if the league is lost, 2 wins from Celtic will give us hope for next year.
Keep the faith, we still have a title to win.
Mort
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For the record O'Dea's out with a hernia OP.
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Mort,
I should correct that:
"In comparison to Mike McCurry, I thought Dougal had a decent game..."
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David
Press Complaints Commission is run by newspaper companies as a self-regulatory body.
Not worth going to them.
STANDING UP
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I don`t think that Lambert was sent off.
However the following season in the League cup semi, Albertz came in with a tackle that had Paul Lambert falling into him but Lambert AVOIDED landing on top of his face. What a gentleman!
Paul Lambert, Celtic legend!
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MVG...11:10...
Samaras @ 9/2... Killen or Koki name your price...
o1bhoy
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one star
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Don't think the Hungarians are too impressed with Stuart Dougal's officialdom so maybe he's not biased against us, but just incompotent
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It was obviously a bad day for the Sunday Herald.
How about this for an unusually forthright headline? ;)
http://tinyurl.com/595lh7
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ianinjesi - you are right Lambert was not sent off in that instance. This was actually a bit of a "Kevin Thomson special" in that Albertz was clearly on the way down in anticpation of Lambert making contact with him before the event. What might have confused the previous poster was Mr Advocaat's dignified hissy fit in the press as to why Lambo was not ordered off because he was on a yeallow card. All fouls presumablt meriting a yellow card regardless of context i.e. intent etc.
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Tony Shun
surely this is a matter for the Police, particularly with the new laws that have been introduced regarding racism and sectarianism
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TB & ianinjesi:
This one?
Paul Lambert
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I take it you have all seen this. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/7347583.stm
'Best Matchday Hospitality Package' is the item that makes a hat-trick. Says it all!
Time to show them what a hat-trick really is.
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The Celtic captain showed with his 1st goal on Sunday exactly the attitude that is necessary going into this game. If Rangers dont lose tomorrow night they are SPL champions and have effectively won the SPL on our own doorstep. In fact I would not be surprised if we saw a mock huddle then!!
Rangers I feel might surprise us by playing two up front on Wednesday. Darcheville and Cousin. Whom along with Ferguson, Davis, Broadfoot and Papac were all rested at the weekend.
It will be the defacto pragmatic Walter Smith approach in that he will take a draw. Therefore at CP he´ll be less likely to sit in. If anything comes along for them then they´ll take it.
The key for us I believe is our front pairing. With JVOH this season being a black sheep and not allowed to challenge for the ball. Cuellar and Weir have had them in their back pocket for far too long allowing both Naka and Aiden to be doubled up on. Leaving Thomspon, Ferguson and Davis to pick up our midfield. This is why we need to get the midfield right and capitalise on this. I would be tempted to pair Samaras with JVOH. More of a physical presence, something new, different, unexpected. He must be chomping at the bit Georgios.
If we sit back ... so will Rangers. If we go hell for leather Rangers will remain solid and wont change tact until conceding hoping that we do an Aberdeen or a Motherwell.
We need to get more from our full backs. Not just hitting in crosses but having a few good shots from just outside the box. Hence why I reckon Rangers will play with two up front. To prevent marauding full backs.
As WGS comments this week testified too, the commitment these last few weeks has waned. It was back in abundance at the weekend.
We need to score early and remain committed until the final whistle. We have seen often enough this year Rangers getting back into games that they looked like losing.
I predict a 1st half red card for one of our players and a 0.0 scoreline
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"The support was terrific at Fir Park. I was a bit worried how they would take it after seeing us lose the previous week. If you are talking about being great supporters, then at Motherwell that was a fantastic performance by them as well.
"Even when it went to 1-1, it wasn't as though there was moaning and groaning giving it We're all doomed'. I don't think there was a risk of us fearing the worst when they equalised, and that was because of the way we scored the first goal.
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