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Or Ibrox :-)
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Perhaps any initiative which would lead to fresh thinking on national league setups could be an advantage.
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Podium?
On another unralated topic... My mate is an Iranian, hes just back from spending his first 2 weeks there since being born. You'll love this.
The street where the british embassy is used to be called churchill Street, in 1980 they changed the name to Bobby Sands Street.
Jims also a big Celtic fan and wore the hoops a few times whilst out there, said every where he went when he had the hoops on he was mobbed by kids shouting "Henrick Larsson" and "Celtic" to him. Class.
He has 39 cousins !! most of them now own Celtic tops and are talking about starting the first (I think) Iranian CSC.. Brilliant. Made my day that.
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Bloke109 - Your flagged for offside.
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With the reported interest of Soros in Roma, could it be that there is a move to reform the face of European football.
It can't be all rich boys' toys.
There are too many big hitters buying or seeking to buy clubs and not all EPL.
Is it all for a slice of Rupert's Rupees in the EPL?
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Apparently the 39th game could be played at the criminally-underused Fir Park.
bazzabhoy: the Iranian CSC deserves a podium place :)
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Excellent news, bazzabhoy.
Even as we speak, no doubt they are in the downtown-Tehran branch of Babbity Bowsters setting up their own clique...
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For those who responded to my post on the previous thread: thanks. It is indeed not the same person.
I have enough to take back to those I was talking with today.
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They would then form part of the 'Axis of Domination'.
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I ran so far away
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Bloke109 - :oD
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First time poster, long time listener here.
Noticed the Soros chap is fighting competition from a member of the GAP family. Any impact for us if Soros is successful?
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Dbbia:
Not sure if your post of 12.38 was in response to mine immediately before it. In the event that it was, ‘they’ whom I refer to are most definitely not of our ‘persuasion’ in a footballing sense and they also have a relative seriously ill in hospital in Belfast who also came as close to a horrible death as one can when one encounters a violent mob and broken bottles.
However, if you were not actually responding to my post just ignore this.
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Paul67,
This maybe an option for the SPL, aggange future Glasgow derby title deciders abroad, as they are so afraid of the problems caused in glasgow they garrymander fixtures. Or are they affraid this would also show the host country and the rest of the world how refereeing in scotland has caused such outrage.
I know its not an option but if it ever were, I doubt the SPL would take it up for the reason above.
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oops
aggange = arrange
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Kitalba, I think DBBIA was referring to the discussion re Iranian Celtic supporters and was punning on the Axis of Evil term that George Bush used for Iran, Iraq and North Korea.... who as we all know have weapons of mass destruction
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Those cuddly Rangers fans are really just life-saving superheroes . Or, 'Footballer collapses in fear as marrauding huns approach'
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bloke109
How about "Rangers fan admits to paramilitary past"
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Is my memory playing tricks on me or did Hearts not try to have one of their games against us moved to Melbourne a few years back?
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Bloke109,
Was that a mickey take??
Rangers fans, Boys Brigade, Player resplendid in a butchers apron / Jumper??
This is the perfect non football Daily Ranker article.
Find this hard to swallow.
Mucker
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I am having a hard time imagining your average Hun using use the word resplendent....
from the article "The fan said: "Paulo was on our flight, resplendent in a Union-Jack jumper."
HUN-believeable.....:-)
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The start of the article uses a bit of licence as well......
"QUICK-THINKING Rangers fans...."
Is this an oxymoron?
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Paul67,
Interesting article. Could this be the start of border breakdown and the first steps towards a European Super League??
World Super Series???
Bit American Sounding but no one does Capitalist quite like them and there have been a number of American investors & Interest in clubs.
Mucker
Lets play ball
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Iranian CSC
Can you imagine John Reid visiting that fans convention!
I had a couple of Palestinians stop me in Sauchiehall Street one evening who had started to follow Celtic since their arrival in Glasgow because of the green marking Intifada. Was a very weird coversation as I was slightly worse for the drink at that stage.
It does show however that sport can reach out across political and religious borders when allowed. I get really annoyed when politicians try to hijack events for their own political gains.
As an aside if I were carrying the olympic flame I reckon I could quite happily banjo any idiot who tried to extinguish it as there are far better ways to protest. Personal opinion only!
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Did the life saving patriot learn his skills from the BB clique?
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Kitochbhoy,
Absolutley fantastic.
I am afraid the analogy cut too close to the bone, but you may be correct in that I am now finding it difficult to keep away from this site.
I logged on from my mobile when in the Dominican republic just so I could get updates on the Gretna game!!!
Mucker
Surprisingly not an anagram of 'Sad Man'
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Re the playing of Old Firm games abroad - was it not an Ajax coach/scout who in 1996 commented that his trip to watch Rangers in an Old Firm game was a waste of time because there is no way a European referee would so obviously favour one team? You remember the game? Tosh McKinlay gets knocked over and accidentally touches the ball with his hand - second yellow Thomas ta ta! Gough brings down Di Canio in the area as last man - play on advantage to Celtic!
Liam Brady was another outsider who succumbed to this virulent strain of the paranoia virus.
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Caddizzy:
Maybe I was doing my usual and being a bit touchy and reading what actually wasn’t there.
The second bhoy was also one of ‘us’, but some from the other side (relatives of the victim) are not too happy with what went on.
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That BB's must be some Pub if the Huns are learning ''life saving'' in It...
o1bhoy
nomooth2moothshirleyCSC
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Paul67 :- I agree with you 100% on this one (not very often I get to say that on one of your articles :-) I think the plans are a disgrace and would hope that all the smaller associations would refuse them permission to play these games on grounds that come within their jurisdiction.
I would also hope that the lesser lights of the EPL would try to fight this, lets face it it isn't going to be Bolton v Wigan being played abroad.
I would also wonder what would happen if for instance a team has qualified for the C.L after the conventional season is finished and then lose that place because of the extra game played somewhere abroad. They may get the initial boost of revenue for that one game but lose out on a huge C.L payout.
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Truetim,
Thanks for the smile!
BazzaBhoy,
Class story, and one which should go along with the Barca Celts story on the Official site.
Never mind the Special One, we already have the Special Club
Mucker
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This is the first report I have seen with comments from the "big countries" on the 39th game idea. I wonder if there is any significance that this is only Germany and Spain giving backing and that Italy and France are missing as yet. Unfortunately, I do not see a split in this group forthcoming and this preposterous idea of the 39th game will become far more likely.
bmx, you are correct. There was a move a while back for us to play Hearts in Australia. There was also at the same time talk about a Glasgow derby being played outside Scotland.
Yesterday, I noticed the resurrection of Billy Urquhart as a poster boy....the first time that the phrase "rearing its ugly head" has not merely been figurative
John
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I don't suppose that the Portuguese player "saved" by the fans in desperate need for a new image, was in actual fact a heavily tanned Scot with a villa in France - or am I just paranoid ?
As for the 39th game - where are these to be played ? I think that this attempted global domination will backfire - eventually. You don't have to be right wing to be nationalistic as countries in South America have shown. In short, these games and the teams competing will become a symbol of capitalism at its crassest. They will be actively opposed and ultimately end in failure.
KMarxCSC
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tony bananas
trying to keep references to the o** f*** out of my vocabulary, hence the glasgow derby reference.
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Ed The Bear,
Not sure if that's the proposed method of this 39th game. My understanding (Which could very easily be wrong!) is that all teams will play a 39th round of matches. These matches will not be the big yins, for example Liverpool v Man U, but more likely, Chelsea v Wigan, Villa v Sunderland. Therefore all teams play abroad with an opportunity to increase fan base.
These games would also be carried out over teh course of a season and not as 1 big round of matches obn a "Last Day".
More likely to be one overseas game per week type scenario.
Like I said, not definite but this was my interpretation.
Mucker
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Alan Carson is clearly in the employ of Media House, after his non-story about Celtic.
Notice he doesn't say what the fans did when the player felt faint, which is clearly all that happened.
What does one do in those circumstances anyway - loosen the person's clothing and rub their hands and feet?
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Malceye,
Seems you're as doubtful as me wrt this perfect DR story.
Your point on Nationalistic countries beiong opposed to the 39th game idea is interesting. Although I think we are speaking about Africa, Japan, China, US etc. Places where some merchandising of 1 or 2 clubs has already taken place. This would be the next step for them.
Mucker
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AbMucker :- I'm probably the one who has misinterpreted it. It would make more sense for them that way but I hope it flops and still think it should be fought against at every possible level from local associations to FIFA.
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I take it Carson DIDN'T write this one as there is no byline on it.
http://tinyurl.com/6gmv9c
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BigSwee - totally agree with you re protests. No doubt there are rephrehensible things going on in that part of the world but it makes me suspicious when western corporate media afford mass coverage to civil protests. It makes me wonder what agenda is at play? Not too difficult to work it out. I'm sure there are many more despotic regimes around the world that we don't get to hear about by no accident.
canmalar - sorry for the expletive. I hate that term as well.
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There is so much wrong with this idea of the 39th game.
Will the results go towards the league standings?
Will it in fact be the 39th game i.e. the last game of the season? in which case, for fairness, should they all kick off at the same (GMT)time?
Will Wigan's and Birmingham's games not go abroad for lack of demand?
Will TV insist on the most attractive pairings (MU Chelsea Arsenal and Liverpool) or will they allow the EPL equivalent of a Carla Bruni, Billy Urquhart pairing?
If Liverpool have to play MU 3 times but Everton only have to play MU twice, is that not unfair on Liverpool in the race for 5th place?
Would it be like post split SPL where the top 4 teams after 38 games are guaranteed a top 4 finish though where in the top 4 can be decided by the 39th game?
The money has made them lose all sight of what this football thing is all about. Unfortunately, it is no great shock that the EPL/FA would come up with this. These are the same people who sent MU to play in a daft meaningless tournament rather than let them defend the English FA Cup.
John
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Ed,
Our teams' limited revenue streams certainly call for a move forward in all existing and new markets and I'm not sure how opposed I would be for Celtic to take 'a game' abroad. Obviously, the fact that it's competitive is the real problem as we regularly play friendlies abroad.
However this is not something I would want the SFA to welcome. We don't need additional teams coming into our 'backyard' and taking revenue from Scottish Clubs. TBH I don't think either Celtic or Rangers would be the ones to suffer immediatley (Possibly longer term), I believe it to be the 2nd tier if you like, (Aberdeen Hearts etc). Come and go fans may be more attracted by Man U at Hamden than Hibs at Pitodrie. This would be a disaster for the league IMO and any more distraction from our league cannot be welcomed.
Mucker
Just thinking out loudly
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AbMucker - I'm not sure you are correct about the 39th game. My understaning was it was going to be exhibition games that do not affect the league standings. Think about it. There are only 20 teams in the league so a 39th game would mean having to play 18 clubs twice and one other club three times.
I agree that the whole thing goes against the integrity of the game [can I use that word or has it been claimed by the huns? ;0) ]
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ABMucker
the kindly cynic in me says of the DR story - "how opportune!"
The DR did not of course expose the disgraceful scenes of Barcelona. But they and Sir Moonbeams of Debtridden Hall are acutely aware that the Spanish press filleted them. This "story" where the fans applied skills learned in the Boys Brigade (a god fearing institution) is simply to too good to be true.
In other words, it sounds like a John Smeaton !!
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Abmucker, I should read earlier posts before I hit the "Post" button. Your take on how they would set it up makes a bit more sense(albeit against the fundamentally flawed background of a nonsensical idea).
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And speaking of the DR - sorry for labouring the point - there is a slight discrepancy between these two stories:
Here, in the DR,
Sporting are full of respect for Rangers: http://tinyurl.com/6k4uhj
Whereas in the Daily Mail, Sporting accuse them of being hacking cheats: http://tinyurl.com/6bwxtz
Note, the same people are mentioned.
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Tony bananas, "integrity" is a word that you can still use since they are still focusing on "dignity"
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Cadizzy,
I actually have to agree with your initial post and the absurdity of the idea as a competitive fixture.
Tony Bananas,
This fits in with your comment on the same. But why call it a 39th game if it's going to be simply a run of friendlies over the course of the year?
I also don't think they would need to gain too much permission to play a friendly in most contries as they already do this during the summer months. (I think it's been rejected already in a Middle East Country as well as Australia....maybe! This would tell me it's more than a friendly)
I'm sure this has been spoken about as competitive fixtures, hence the reason it's so different.
Mucker
Still think it's absurd
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Malceye,
We need cynics. Better to be cynical than just Paranoid!!!!
Mucker
Cynical csc
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The Overseas fixture will never work and has already been kicked into touch by the said overseas Country because it simply dose not involve them... Only the English could come up with a ''It's all about US'' idea like this...
My own personal wee favourite to spread the BRAND earn extra revenue round the World...
Would be instead of the pre-season friendlies (theres no friendlies in football) and the much maligned League cups (the league cup IS important to this club)...
Would be to play an early Season World or European club Cup where you could still have a Celtic v Melbourne Victory game or Arsenal v Terhan Celtics play but it would mean something... The Final/Finals would be played At Xmas in the said Hot Country's...
Maybe even during our winter shutdown...........
CELTIC v SANTOS in Rio during the carnival...sounds good...
o1bhoy
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itns a cynic somewhere to relieve yourself if there's a queue for the toilet. :o)
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Canamalar
Oh dear.
(I will probably use that somewhere HAHA!)
Mucker
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Canamalar, I remember an ex girlfriend being appalled at seeing that happen in the Ladies at closing time (in Greenock, which only partially explains it). The reliever (in midst relief) responded to the astonished queuers gaping at her with the eloquent phrase "Well, I wiz burstin' OKAY?"
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cadizzy - fair point about the possible competitive nature of the games but the cynic in me reckons this is probably more a bit of marketing spin to jazz up what is really a friendly e.g. where the friendlies we played pre-season over in the States not billed as 'World Series Soccer' or suchlike when in effect they were nothing more than warm up matches.
In any case I am against the idea!
And now I remember PL reclaimed the word integrity in his statement re a possible season extension.
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cadizzy,
as long as she wash her hands after, I have no problem :oD
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The national Sun has a slightly different take on the Paulo Ferreira story:
CHELSEA star Paulo Ferreira collapsed at Lisbon airport just hours after watching his side’s victory over Fenerbahce.
The Portuguese right-back, 29, was signing autographs for Rangers fans travelling to their UEFA Cup tie with Sporting when he slumped unconscious.
One fan said: “He came round after a couple of minutes and said he hadn’t eaten anything since the day before.
“I think he was quite embarrassed and didn´t want any fuss.”
Embarrassed at being in the same place as huns, and didn't want any fuss, so the story is plastered in the DR.
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Does Alan Carson exist? Has anybody seen him? Is he an accredited journalist with paid up NUJ dues?
Perhaps SS or any other journa who posts here can check out his credentials.
I suspect that he may be a staffer hiding behind a nom de plume. Perhaps it is a coincidence that his name has a resonance with people of an Ulster Unionist bent.
Is there any evidence of him writing anything other articles out with the two infamous ones that we know of?
Does anyone have any insight to the guy?
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Canamalar better than washing her hands during
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TrueTim, hilarious. Deleted, language.
Welcome 200adayplusexpenses, worth every penny.
Canamalar, not much chance.
AbMucker, always possible, but I fear a bout of nested interested-ism first.
Edward, I believe all FA PL clubs would have to play one game abroad, although the fixture you mention would hardly rate opening your curtains for.
Tony Bananas, no, the 39th game was to count towards the league table.
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Paul
Any news on transfer plans for the season? I am presuming that WGS will still be in charge for starters!
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To the credit of all football fans I have met down here in Foreigngerlund , they do not want this 39th game either and that includes fans of the "big 4".
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Kittochbhoy previous thread 11.22
Fantastic
SPL - State Prison Leaders Brilliant!!
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Allan Carson? Nah, couldn't be the same one at number 25?
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a wee late lunchtime quiz
for all you old players
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I noticed a wee story on NewsNow, where Rod Stewart mentioned that he'd like to see Messi & Tevez at Celtic.
Mmmm. Messi & Tevez to replace JVoH & Skippy? Yes, I think so... go on then Rod, make our day!
Oh, and while you're at it, please can we have Cristiano Ronaldo to replace Naka?!
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Bloke 109
just had a look at your site
check no 536
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Paul67/ Bournesouprecipe/ Mort/ Abmucker/ Herges. Thank you Gentlemen Praise indeed.
Kittoch
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SOAL
I got 0 out of 5 - that's tricky!
M McCurry
Murray Park
Glasgow
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The Belfast man , who was viciously attacked by loyalist thugs , Mr McNally , was not wearing a Celtic jersey.
He was attacked because he was a Catholic and was near or in company of friends wearing Celtic Jerseys.
I know who the guy is to see , He worked in the same place as me for a few months now and I am nearly sure he is originally Scottish.
The thugs in question were wearing Linfield regalia , accompianied by a few english daytrippers (alledgedly , though its up for debate). The grouping are being attributed to a Linfield hooligan element Section F.
Interestingly enough SDLP councillor Martin Morgan deems the wearing of Celtic and Rangers jerseys in the city Center is inflammatory and it should be a neutral venue for colours.
Martin Morgan had to be reminded that Celtic and rangers jerseys had nothing to do with the assault on an innocent bystander who's only crime was he was percieved to be a Catholic by a group of loyalist thugs.
Interestingly enough his comments come as his party ratifiy a bill for human rights in Northern Ireland promoting equality for all and no discrimation or sectarianism.
Yet he wishes to discriminate and demonise Celtic fans for wearing their colours in their own city.
Typical politician.
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SOAL :- lmao, the truth must come out, is WG really a timposter, has he finally turned to the light, has too many real ales muddled his brain cells.
Perhaps ambulance crews in the ML2 area should be out hunting a heart attack victim outside the teser.
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This whole Allan Carson thing has taken a sinister turn! :)
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BigLiam :- Thanks for clarifying that, I don't know how it was ported in Belfast but over here almost every report said he was wearing a Celtic top and that's where the confusions comes from.
Not that it should make any difference in what was a horrific attack on a young man by a crowd of rabid thugs.
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bigliam, ed
It was also reported in the Belfast papers that the man was wearing a Celtic top.
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Arthur Lee,
Not to mention 537 and 538!
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Gordon_j
The "Clique" do love the Songs debate.
Mucker
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Big Liam / Anyone,
Do any of you know if the lad in Belfast is on the mend?
Mucker
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On official site. Good film clips of the top twelve goals of the season under the POTY heading.
We could be doing with some of those!
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abmucker
There was a story in the Belfast Telegraph a couple of days ago saying that he is still critically ill in hospital.
Lets all hope and pray that he makes a full recovery. We've had far too many senseless killings in this part of the world.
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Mort,
Thanks for the update.
As you said, prayers are with him!
Mucker
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For those that are interested, you can now vote on-line at Celtic's official site for Celtic's fans' player of the year and young player of the year.
O1bhoy
If you are not walking your dog on the beach chatting to Desperate Housewives name Sheila and Doris, if you are going to bet on Celtic's Player of the Year I suggest you do a Reverse Tri-cast of Aiden, Artur and Skippy. A msure winner.
CQN Betting Clique CSC
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Is it safe to hide here for a bit?
Willie McKay
Football agent to the stars (and Amdy Faye)
Backhander House
Bung Street
Allegedlyshire
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Bloke109,
Surely on official papers he would use his full name:
Monaco-Based-Super-Agent-Willie McKay,
Birmingham, er, i mean Monaco.
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Looks like Trapatonni and the Irish management staff know something about Darren O'Dea which we all know apart from GS????
Come on Gordon get a grip and play the bhoy before he departs.
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Fellow Celts. First time blogger on here. Long time fan. First game 1969 8-1 against Thistle. Old enclosure. Bobby Lennox reached 100 goals and my brother bust his chin falling of a stantion.
Been through a lot as a Tim and firmly believe that this season and the fans reactions are a result of our success since the time of Wim.
We've been a wee bit spoiled. After all it's the first time in seven years that we've been this far behind.
Is it just me or have Celtic's troubles this season coincided with the appointment of Blairs bouncer.
Would it be too simplistic to say that HE is the reason for so many empty seats? He may have been voted in with the Big Business block vote but the petition against him was huge.
On another more topical vein...are we hoping for a Rangers defeat tonight thus forcing them to play thier pre-split games in those blank mid-weeks or a win and the ensuing fixture pile-up chaos.
For me the first would be the best option for TWO (quite obvious) reasons.
1. Something to cheer about
2. Less chance of the SPL arranging things to help them
Is Boltonbhoy around? It's your wee brother here... and it wisnae him that fell from the stantion.
Bazzabhoy: My mate Gholam founded the first Iranian CSC although he is a London based exile. Seriously I'm sure he would love to be in contact with some fellow Iranian Tims.
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Here's a headline from the Telegraph.
"Barry Robson confused by Celtic role"
Here is what Barry Robson is quoted as saying. Can any reader spot where Barry refers to confusion rather than saying that things have gone as expected?
"It's been pretty hard for me at Celtic so far," Robson said. "Since I came to the club, it's taken me time to settle in and force my way into the manager's plans. Of course, it's still early days but I've only made seven or eight appearances. It's a massive club, though, and I've been enjoying it.
"I've scored a couple of goals against Aberdeen and Barcelona and I think I have done okay when I have played. I'll just have to wait for my chance to establish myself in the side but, to be honest, I always expected it to be like this.
"The manager brought me here as a wide player. Aiden has been outstanding and Naka has done well, too. These are the two guys I'm fighting to get a place."
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I can categorically deny that I have ever been to Monaco (is that what I've to deny this time, Mr Petrocelli?)
Monaco-Based (D'oh!)-Super-Agent-Willie McKay
Football agent to the stars (and Amdy Faye)
Backhander House
Bung Street
Allegedlyshire
Friends of Willie McKay
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I don't know if any of you watched Sky's coverage of the CL games last night but Glenn Hoddle said something that struck a chord with me.
During his time as Chelsea manager he took over a club that had no success since the CWC victory in 1971. He reckoned they had the most passionate fans in London but since Abramovich took over and they have been successful this passion has died away and as Ray Wilkins put it, Stamford Bridge was like a library on Tuesday night nad has been for a lot of this season. They both put it down to success being expected and the "go on entertain me" type of support that this has brought.
Do we suffer from the same syndrome in all but CL games? It seems to be a trait at Highbury/Ashburton Grove, Old Trafford and Ibrox. Does winning constantly breed a support who expect victory and will only get behind their team when winning is assured?
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Monaco-based super-agent to the stars (and Amdy Faye) Willie McKay on the phone (not to anyone from Birmingham City, no sir, officer, sir) from his back yard
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Cadizzy
I listened to that interview. Robson claimed that he was enjoying himself his time here and that the manager has taught him a lot already. He claimed that he has no right to get straight into the team as Nakamura and McGeady as class players and that he was taking a little time to adjust to a new system etc. He also said that Gordon was dong a brilliant job and calls should be about him having his contract extended not going. Also saying the dressing room was good and training was great that day.
God knows how they managed to find a negative headline out of all the things he said. They must have got that headline from some other (non-existent) interview he done.
Bloody hell, the press can be so infuriating.
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Bambi,
Maybe that's what happened Aberdeen in the 80's cause it's like a morgue there now!
Mucker
Maybe it was always like that though?
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gordon master plan
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