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Thursday, May 1, 2008

Paris St Germain banned from next League Cup Paris St Germain have been banned from defending the League Cup next season after some of their fans unfolded an abusive banner during this season's League Cup final, the French League (LFP) said on Wednesday. (Guardian)

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Friday, April 18, 2008
St Mirren, Hibs and Dundee United move to end season extension

The news that St Mirren players will leave for a holiday the day after their final league game has narrowed the options open to the SPL. Click on the image for a better view.

I understand that Hibs and Dundee United will not agree to Motherwell being allowed to play Rangers after the scheduled final league date of 18 May as all three clubs chase the Uefa Cup spot. This is likely to result in Rangers playing four league fixtures between 10 and 18 May, the last three of which will be away from home.

In the event that Rangers reach the Uefa Cup final, which also takes place that week, it is likely that the St Mirren game will be brought forward to the previous week, meaning Rangers would have to play two games on consecutive days, and the Motherwell game moved to Friday 16 May, two days after the Uefa Cup final.

I’m not going to tell you we are going to win the league, but with injures beginning to bite, just as ours did in December, you could make a case that the Three-in-a-row-Phoenix may yet rise from the flames.

Time for another 60,011 performance tomorrow; I can’t wait.
Posted by Paul67 at 4:24 PM :: 

211 Comments:
  • At 18/04/08 16:25, Blogger Stoir Mha Chroi said…

    One Star Means More:

    That is exactly what the treaty of Arbroath was all about. On the 6th April 1320.

    Just like the Easter Uprising in Dublin 1916 and that long awaited and most welcome proclamation of the Irish.

    It was the Scottish Proclamation of Independence.

    The Boyne and the Papacy - 370 odd years later - was a different story altogether.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:29, Blogger Theragswerepublicansdisdain said…

    One star means more,

    I'm not sure why you would have those problems. The 2.0.0.14 update on the 16th of April was to fix a java problem so it should not have affected your bookmarks or registry.

    I would suggest asking at the Bugzilla Forumns

    Therags...

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:30, Blogger inkybhoy said…

    Hail, hail

    The only thing Celtic can and must do is three points from every remaining game.

    In about two/three weeks there is going to an almighty rattle at ibrox, a combination of injury, match schedules and DunUtd, Hibs and Well looking for three points in every game they play, whether against Rangers or us.

    I am genuinely looking forward to this.

    STANDING UP...and singing

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:30, Blogger smashin milk bottle said…

    Stoir

    Night cap then off tae bed!!!

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:33, Blogger Estadio said…

    Just once more for those with queries around the term 'hun'.

    Here is an article by a self-proclaimed one, who is also an excellent journalist, written in the pre-amble to Seville 2003.

    It is good reading and good writing all laced with a fine sense of wry humour.

    Yes they do exist.

    This hun's on the run

    Hail hail

    Estadio

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:34, Blogger 31003 said…

    smashy.........how'd the date go last night?

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:35, Blogger canamalar said…

    We only win when we're singing,
    win when we're singing
    we only win when we're singing
    win when we're singing.

    I'm begining to believe those are the correct words to a classic.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:37, Blogger danny said…

    I don't see why Rangers are not playing this Saturday in the Cup and then Monday in the SPL.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:39, Blogger BigSwee said…

    Inkybhoy

    Hit the nail on the head dear friend.

    We win all our games.

    It's that simple. Place every breath, every effort, every dream and belief into that one simple thing.

    WIN

    WIN

    WIN

    And then when all is done we shall see.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:39, Blogger Parkheadcumsalford said…

    You've just made my day, Paul. I do so hope that scenario pans out. That must be worth a couple of points to us.

    Still, I can't hope for them to beat Fiorentina, no matter how much it might help us indirectly. I want them beaten each and every time they play and preferably by 7-1.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:42, Blogger Stoir Mha Chroi said…

    SMB:

    The night cap was history about three hours ago.

    The missus has been nagging me to get to bed since long before then -
    but - for some strange reason, I can't stop watching Naka's goal.

    Again and again and again and again.

    And again, and again and again and again.

    And again, and again and again and again.

    That was some win my man.

    Quite a few of our guys stood up and were counted.

    I'll have one last drink to them and to the support who supported.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:44, Blogger holysoulsalarmclock said…

    If george Graham went to Parkhead as a boy it was only on a spying mission to tell his relative (Dad or grandad?) that the green white and gold was still flying and to get us tae take it down.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:44, Blogger winningemmell said…

    Season 1978-79 Revisited

    18 April 1979

    Hearts 0 Celtic 3


    1-0 MacLeod (11)

    1-0 HT

    2-0 Conroy (61)
    3-0 Burns (76)


    Winners :-

    Latchford, McGrain, Lynch, Aitken, Edvaldsson, MacLeod;
    Provan (Burns), Conroy, McAdam, Davidson, McCluskey.

    Att - 11,000

    This was Celtic's seventh league fixture in 22 days as we endeavoured to clear the winter backlog.



    WG

    PS More match detail on previous thread.....

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:45, Blogger canamalar said…

    parkheah,
    I think if they are knocked out the scottish on sunday and the EUFA on thursday it will have major impact on their confidence, so I'm definately with you on that one.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:46, Blogger Tony Bananas said…

    Itza - I'll take the devil's advocate baton from you now...

    There are huns that seriously contend that the 'mhedia' (as per their banner) have an agenda to marginalise and attack Rangers FC and their supporters.

    If they perceive this it must be true.

    Discuss.

    openuniversityoflife csc

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:47, Blogger winningemmell said…

    holysouls -

    it's the truth (according to George) nonetheless.


    Now where's that brown envelope ?

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:47, Blogger barcabhoy said…

    paul67

    can you tell us what is required for the season to be extended...do the sfa have to give permission....can any one body alone make this decision ? are the spl able to extend the season without the agreement of all member clubs...is a simple majority enough to provide an extension....if the spl can make this decision without individual clubs agreeing, who within the spl makes the decision...does the tv contract run beyond the season end? can 2 clubs unilatteraly agree to play a game between them after the nominated final game

    is it lex gold? ian blair?

    can we veto any such decision, can we or any other club appeal it?

    i think it's important to get the infrastructure surrounding any potential decision into the public domain

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:50, Blogger The Hooped Baron said…

    Afternoon Gents...
    First time poster, long time reader

    After Wednesday we should fear noone. They in turn will fear us.

    WGS has my support as it is clear that certain players havent turned up for him this season.
    He has a long term plan and he will be accutely aware of the players to be moved on after this season.

    We need to sign a new "Captain". Arguably Robson could do it as his commitment the other night showed he wont bottle anything.
    I like the look of Hinkel...is his improving performances also improving Caldwell?
    We do need a new left back as Nayls has been poor all season and he is putting additional pressure on McManus which is then extending over to Caldwell...How many goal have we conceded this season through the Naylor McManus channel?

    Anyway lets get right behind the team tomorrow as we did on Wednesday. Do the hard work in the first 45 instead of the last 10.

    THB

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:51, Blogger BHOYSFOUR said…

    inkybhoy,

    Your not singing solo are you?, cause it solow I can't here you :-)

    coat on as they say

    BF

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:53, Blogger winningemmell said…

    Yup, them to lose at all times unless by avoiding defeat (preferably a draw) they relegate the mothers whilst doing themselves no good and us no harm.


    Think I've got that about right.....

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:53, Blogger Stoir Mha Chroi said…

    Again I watched NakaGhod score and a wee thought went through my mind:

    howd oawn a wee minute... is he 'Celtic Minded'.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:55, Blogger oldtim67 said…

    A wee rant.

    The Daily Record are suffering the consequences of their years of aggressive anti Celtic reporting,they've lost thousands of readers of our persuasion.

    They have only one course of action now,side with the other lot, or go out of business.
    There is absolutely no chance of any derogatory reporting of the huns,it just wouldn't be good business acumen to support any other team.
    They wont be outwardly aggressive towards other teams, other than Celtic.
    But they've nailed their colours to the mast,so to speak,and they must tread softly,and hope they don't offend they're chosen cell mates,it must be like walking on broken glass,trying to write something good about Rangers all the time.
    If they do cross the bridge, and defame Rangers in any way,their lot would boycott the paper,and it would fold in months.
    So, you can see they must be on the side of Rangers,at all times.
    Minty is there to see that they toe the party line.
    Thats the kind of predicament they've got themselves in,and I can't see the answer to that predicament.

    Celtic will always be thrown a few scraps,to keep the few thousand that still read their rag,happy.

    Radio Clyde, is in exactly the same boat.

    I wouldn't like Celtic to have a red top exclusively reporting only the good things, and sweeping all the dirt under the Carpet.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:56, Blogger Gordon_J said…

    Some sad news for the music lovers on the site.

    "DANNY FEDERICI

    "Danny and I worked together for 40 years - he was the most wonderfully fluid keyboard player and a pure natural musician. I loved him very much...we grew up together."
    —Bruce Springsteen

    "Danny Federici, for 40 years the E Street Band's organist and keyboard player, died this afternoon, April 17, 2008 at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York City after a three year battle with melanoma.

    "The Federici family and the E Street family request that, in lieu of flowers, donations be made to the Danny Federici Melanoma Fund. A web site for the Fund is being established and we'll post its link when it is on line.

    "Bruce Springsteen's concerts scheduled for Friday in Ft. Lauderdale and Saturday in Orlando performance are being postponed. Replacement dates will be announced shortly."


    Danny is in my thoughts tonight as is our own Tommy Burns.

     
  • At 18/04/08 16:57, Blogger whitedoghunch said…

    Theragswerepublicansdisdain

    excuse the nosey but what is the corruption you are chatting of ?
    My adware fixer and word have been playing up and I think this could be since the new firefox ?

    Hoops 10/3 with paddy power

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:00, Blogger Stoir Mha Chroi said…

    I’m going to my bed, I’ll leave you with this and ask you: is this racist?

    Sad ‘People’

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:02, Blogger ItaliaBhoy said…

    Sad news on Danny Federici. You know you're getting old when members of the E-Street band are starting to shuffle off this mortal coil...

    RIP

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:05, Blogger ItaliaBhoy said…

    Regarding extension of the season... does anyone have any info on our planned tour to Japan?

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:06, Blogger canamalar said…

    celtic will be touring japan in the summer :o))

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:13, Blogger Theragswerepublicansdisdain said…

    whitedoghunch,

    It was a problem One Star Means More was having since the forced update on the 16th. It shouldn't be interfering with other desktop products.

    My suggestion is bin word and check out Openoffice

    Therags...

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:14, Blogger Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    arcabhoy,

    I´m not trying to be cheeky here mate but the answer to your question is St. Mirrens travel agent

    They make the rules up as they go along.

    Remember when Gretna agreed to cancel their game against Rangers for the sake of Scottish football and in the self same week Aberdeen asked Motherwell who said "non". The SPL told all and sundry its up to the clubs to agree.

    4 weeks late Dundee Utd and Hearts both agree that they dont want to play after Phil O´Donnels passing having just witnessed it. The SPL stated

    "Dundee Utd are playing Rangers in 3 days time whether they like it or not, regardless to what we have said previously we want them knackered before they play Rangers as we always struggle against them."

    A lot of mediocre masons are going to see their careers stagnate because of this one.

    The Tow Jimmies on the last day of the season with nothing to play for and half a squad that has already moved on in their minds is 3 points for them.

    Hence why we must hammer them good and proper ... for the lie doon they ´ll be taking on the 18th May

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:14, Blogger BHOYSFOUR said…

    Does anyone have a link from the bust up at the end the other night?

    BF

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:14, Blogger holysoulsalarmclock said…

    winninggemmel

    never doubted your providence only the actual recollections from George

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:18, Blogger winningemmell said…

    18 April 1981

    SPL

    Rangers 0 Celtic 1

    0-0 HT

    1-0 Nicholas (55)

    Blue Bottle(r)s -

    Stewart, Miller, Jackson, Johnstone, Dawson, Bett (MacDonald);
    Russell, McLean, Johnston (Jardine), McAdam, Redford.

    Insect Repellants

    Bonner, McGrain, MacDonald, McAdam, Aitken, Conroy;
    Burns, MacLeod, Provan, McGarvey, Nicholas.

    Att - 34,000


    From The Celtic Football Companion

    Celtic were in full control of a quiet Old Firm game. It did not require anything special to beat a Rangers side who created only 2 genuine chances throughout the 90 minutes. MacDonald's command in the air nullified the dangerous flighted passes of McLean, and Aitken mastered the ground attacks.


    Seems the darnel played better than they did on Wednesday !!




    WG

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:20, Blogger dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Very sad news re Danny Fedirici; part of one of the greatest collections of musical talent of the past 40 years. Amusical whole greater thanthe sum of its parts.

    RIP.

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:21, Blogger itzallova said…

    Tony Bananas @ 16.46

    Perception doesn’t make it true, it’s simply how you feel based on your experience.

    Never the less a great question, and I believe they genuinely feel they get a raw deal from the media and that we get an easy ride. I’m sure they could come up with umpteen examples of the media being friendly towards us, just as we could come up with other examples if we decide to take the opposite view.

    Left a question for you on the last thread if you get a minute, no big deal if you haven't the time.

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:22, Blogger Kojo said…

    Sir Paul

    In every crisis there ever be,lies the prospect for advancement and opportunity!

    Ye dinnae think so?
    Well, Ah Dae!

    The Carding of Mr. Caldwell is our chance to Blood the Best Young Center Backing prospect,to come up the river, since Billy McNeill!

    Scott Cuthbert is his name...
    And ...
    Closing Down Strikers, is His Game!

    I have never seen Scott lose an aerial duel!

    Not only that, his well won header...9 times out of 10... Is directed skilfully, to a friendly COLLEAGUE!

    One may think that that skill is no a big deal...

    But, I believe..most sincerely... that it.... IS, A BIG DEAL!

    Mr.McManus, wins his share of Heading Duels,in fair number,but he immediately negates his fine woik,by heading his hard won interception... direct and unerringly .... to a grateful opponent...and... Bingo!
    We are immediately under the cosh, again!

    Daft? Of course, it's Daft!

    In the case of Mr.McManus, this debilitating Mis- Judgment, which he demonstrates with some regularity...only saps our defensive system...and further strengthens my conclusion, that he should not be in our team... in the FOIST PLACE!

    Bobo, should not Play against Aberdeen.

    We already know, all there is to know, about his strengths and weaknesses.

    Against Aberdeen, we should eagerly grasp this chance to find out,if Mr.Cuthbert is the potential Defensive Saviour, that we are in such a dire need!

    Kojo.

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:24, Blogger The Spirit of Arthur Lee said…

    the boss

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:25, Blogger moonbeams wet dream said…

    Itzallova, the term hun when referring to a Rangers fan has been around for many many many... a year. Fans of all clubs in Scotland use this term when referring to them. It is only in the last 5 years that they "the huns" have tried to register this word under the secterian bracket. I am in contact daily with a number of huns and although they do not like being called huns as they think it is has secterian undertones in their eyes (note - this has only been they case in last few years), I have never once heard any of them take offence because they think I am calling them a nazi. But if the shoe fits. Only kidding on that one but there is a sizeable number of their away support who are actually nazi right wing white supremecists. Who's kidding who with the Red hand of Ulster sign. If that were true I would be the next male supermodel and I can gaurantee you I am a long way from being that.

    Can't remember who told me this story and it could be made up garbage but someone once told me that the term hun was put on Rangers pre WW2 when Hitlers German national team, or the domestic team that the detestible Hitler supported were looking for a team from the British Isle's to play in a friendly match in Germany. They asked a number of clubs down south and were refused. Came to Scotland and asked the huns and they accepted. Hence how they got the term huns. I have never looked into this or am ever likely too, but I like that one. EdwardUrsus you may be able to coinfirm or deny. most probalby deny I imagine as it was probably made up.

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:26, Blogger pastyface said…

    oldtim

    I think the Daily Record would probably point the finger at the agressive marketing of the 'tartan tabloids' as more of a problem than any bhoycott.

    The Sunday Herald on the other hand have much more to lose as they have a very precarious circulation figure as there a no sales outwith Scotland and that is probably very limited to the West

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:29, Blogger bazzabhoy said…

    Dont know if any has mentioned, but season ticket prices have been frozen for next season.

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:30, Blogger whitedoghunch said…

    Theragswerepublicansdisdain

    I'd love to but I have too many 3rd world contacts using word 2000 sending documents I need to open.
    Apologies in advance PB.

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:37, Blogger BigSwee said…

    "Stephen McManus was also cautioned for his altercation with Barry Ferguson. The two captains collided, with television evidence showing McManus to have aimed a swing at Ferguson, who retaliated angrily. McManus' booking takes him to the 15-point threshold and one more caution will lead to an automatic ban."

    Now I could be wrong as I have yet to see un-edited footage of the scuffle and handbag-fest but is this not somthing of a re-write and as such yet another piece of corrupted prose from another of the usual suspects.

    Please tell me I am wrong......

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:40, Blogger itzallova said…

    moonbeams @ 17.25

    I understand your story to be true and that the the Nazi Flag - one with a Black Swastika on a Red background - was flown at Ibrox during the game against Germany.

    If Teddy is lurking he may be able to clarify.

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:43, Blogger possilbhoy said…

    BHOYSFOUR


    copy & paste this link & you'll see the fighting at the end.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:44, Blogger Tony Bananas said…

    Rest assured that our Scottish media will treat coverage of the fixture congestion problems facing Rankers in a manner consistent with previous precedents involving other clubs.

    And I'm a Dutchman.

    Celtic branded moaners

    Tonyvennegoorofbananalink csc

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:44, Blogger BigSwee said…

    What link mate?

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:45, Blogger One Star Means More said…

    Theragswerepublicansdisdain

    Thanks for the help anyway. I may have found the answer on one of the forums.

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:45, Blogger BigSwee said…

    What link mate?

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:49, Blogger Paul67 said…

    Parkheadcumsalford, agree, beating Fiorentina would be too much. I hope for a score draw at Ibrox that will keep their interest then a humbling defeat in Italy.

    Barcabhoy, the league make the decision, not the clubs, but the clubs make up the league committee.

    Welcome The Hooped Baron.

    Kojo, thanks for your info on Scott Cuthbert, I’m not familiar with his work.

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:49, Blogger possilbhoy said…

    Sorry.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HvfX9Rs_Sc

    What a plonker.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:52, Blogger possilbhoy said…

    I was trying to post on here when my daughter started playing silly buggers & moaning in my lugs. She must get it off of her mum.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:52, Blogger Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    we effing hate offenbach kickers neunundvierzig
    we effing hate offenbach kickers neunundvierzig
    we effing hate we effing hate offenbach kickers neunundvierzig


    no very good huh ?


    Go home ya bigoted, sectarian,right wing, nazi, gloryhunting, moronic, witless, clueless, scum
    Go home ya bigoted, sectarian,right wing, nazi, gloryhunting, moronic, witless, clueless, scum

    Na disnae work either


    I thought hun was cockney rhyming slang for current bun and bigoted, sectarian, right wing, nazi, gloryhunting, moronic, witless, clueless, scum

    lets just stick to knuckledragging huns ... they should take it as a complement

    If they enjoy so much being in a stadium desecrating the memory of a man who helped rescue their
    brothers and sisters from possible death due to them being on the cusp of a possible SPL league title
    then the word Hun is too good for them

     
  • At 18/04/08 17:56, Blogger half and half said…

    STRACHAN BLASTS SFA OVER PROCEDURE

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:00, Blogger Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…

    Paul67,

    the league make the decision but they only act on behalf of the clubs requests.

    I.e they asked Gretna on behalf of Rangers. Gretna said yes if Gretna said no like Motherwell did to Aberdeen. The SPL then carries the message back to the requesting club.Unless your playing Rangers next. As Dundee Utd. requested that the SPL ask Hearts having sounded Hearts out previously only for the SPL to say no.

    So the SPL along with the SFA are Rangers football club protection racket. No bones about it

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:00, Blogger Celticblog said…

    Dear Kojo,

    Your summation of Scott Cuthbert is spot on.
    He's captain of the Reserves, and a real inspiration.
    I was a bit annoyed to see him play right back against Aberdeen Reserves to give Pressley and Balde a game.
    Scott is well overdue his league debut.
    Howevvah . . .
    I wouldn't be surprised to see Bobo start ra morra.

    Catch up with you later. I'm off to take my youngest snapper to the swimming.
    JohnBhoy (who reckons we WILL win the league!)

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:03, Blogger possilbhoy said…

    Proper Bo ! Is Craig David a proper Bhoy ?

    Check this out. Superb.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzmKMb6E9zM

    Hail Hail

    ps

    Can someone help me to be able to do the proper link thing.

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:06, Blogger Martin42 said…

    Scotland Today reporting Celtic and SFA at loggerheads over Gary Caldwell's red card.

    Martin.

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:07, Blogger malone19 said…

    possilbhoy

    Setanta get it wrong - I was wrong in saying it was Ferguson who slapped McGeady, it was Novo (who is almost as ugly! And they were the two highlighted in that clip, not Ferguson and McManus) still can't believe that Novo will get away without a ban!

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:11, Blogger ssm said…

    game on hun tv at moment.

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:12, Blogger possilbhoy said…

    malone19

    deep down you do blieve that he'll get away with that. After all, he plays for that manky ,cheating,time wasting.... ach, you get my point.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:25, Blogger malone19 said…

    I think someone mentioned it earlier, but would it be possible for the Scotland's shame banner to be moved to point at the press box for the next home game?

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:27, Blogger malone19 said…

    And of course I don't actually think he'll be punished!

    If the SPL, SFA and Scotland as a whole was run the way it should be Rangers would not even be in the premier league! There was at least 3 instances of racism at the game on Wednesday: the Naka chants, the Famine chants and the potato throwing.

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:30, Blogger pastyface said…

    "If there is any doubt in their mind, the onus is on the club to get in contact with the SFA and not the other way round.
    "Because you can imagine, if it was our job to phone around all the clubs in Scotland, it would be a huge task.

    excuse me but what in the name of the wee man do they mean by this.

    Surely constant contact with the clubs is there job or do they only deal with one

    Either they are the Scottish Football Association or they aren't

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:30, Blogger BHOYSFOUR said…

    Possilbhoy,

    Thanks for the link Pal

    BF

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:34, Blogger possilbhoy said…

    Regarding the potato throwing, the media coverage over this was too much !!!

    The SFA stated that Gary Caldwell's red card was witnessed by Neil Lennon & our security chief Ronnie Hawthorne. If, as Celtic say, this is not the case, then the club must take this all the way.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:38, Blogger possilbhoy said…

    BF,no problem.

    Have a wee swatch at the Craig David one. I doubt it's the real Bo Selecta guy but still cracking all the same.

    Hail Hail

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:45, Blogger Tony Bananas said…

    Itza - the personification of hatred that some of the dark side have for us is a difficult one to answer. I would need to write a dissertation to even attempt a satisfactory answer. I think it can be best summed up by saying that they hate a caricature of what they think a Celtic supporer is i.e.

    an IRA supporting, alien, dole scrounger, or some similar notion.

    Extremist behaviours e.g. Rangers' discriminatory signing policy, no catholics need apply employment practices etc.
    haveing gone unchecked by the media until relatively recently, and even then in a half hearted manner have allowed this to fester for decades.

    I think it boils down to ignorant people will believe what it is convenient for them to believe and no amount of evidence to the contrary will persuade them otherwise if it contradicts their agenda or their revellrey. This is true in all walks of life not just football or religious bigotry

    The more extreme Celtic/timmy/fenian haters seem to view as us some sort of sub-human race fuelled by misconception and ignorance of history over the years.

    To pick up your previous point about "go home ya huns" causing offence to them - I am familiar with equalities regulations which say that any racial slur that causes offence is sufficient for disciplinary action even if the slur was unintentional. However there is also the provision to be made concerning whether the statement itself constitutes a slur. I would compare the argument that "go home ya hun" is as offensive as "go home the famine is over", with the recent case of the baldy teacher who tried to sue the council. This unfortunate man had to leave employment as a teacher due to abuse suffered from pupils and contended that his follically challenged condition was in effect a disability. This was dismissed by a judge as absurd.

    I would also compare the Rankers fans who contend that the media have an agenda against them as spoiled children. Once child me be upset because he is forced to eat rice and water for his dinner. Another because he didn't get an extra helping of ice cream after his three course meal in Frankie & Benny's. The emotional reaction of both may be roughly the same but this does not prove that the treatment of both children is ergo the same.

    In essence, they are spoiled children who have had everything their own way for over a century. In their view this is proper because it is "their" country and "we" are aliens. I also think there is an element of seeing us by their own standards (after all we are scum compared to them) i.e. because nearly every chant/song/slogan they come up with embodies some sort of religious or racial hatred, then, in turn, our reference to "hun" MUST be a religious slur (after all we are just as bad as them remember). Similarly "the animals" in a Grand Old team MUST be some sort of religious jibe.

    We are no angels and I am sure you are trying to get me to state that our behaviour e.g. "go home ya huns" contributes to their view. However I am convinced these views would persist whatever our behaviours so we shouldn't be cow-towed. Simply playing in green and white would be enough for some of them.

    I play 5-a-sides with reasonably rational and educated guys
    who would not be viewed as rampant bigots who simply refuse to wear a football kit containing any trace of the colour green. In another country this might be viewed as at best, eccentric and at worst, insane. In this country it is viewed as normal.

    A bit of a rambling attempt to answer your question. I'm sure others could do a better job.

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:50, Blogger Martin42 said…

    It would appear that what Neil Lennon and Ronnie Hawthorn were told was that Gary Caldwell was being reported to the S F A for violent contact.

    Thye S F A now say that that is the same as an automatic red card and the club should have saught clarification.

    STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,


    Martin

     
  • At 18/04/08 18:52, Blogger ElDiegoBhoy said…

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  • At 18/04/08 18:58, Blogger Martin42 said…

    Tony,

    I have an in law relation who is a rampant bigot.

    He would jail any person found wearing a Celtic top in the street.

    He is ex army and ex prison officer and has no respect for his in laws who are all Catholic and Celtic supporters.

    He refuses to enter a Catholic Church for a wedding, Baptism or funeral.

    He is a sad lonely pathetic figure and still a first class bigot.

    The sad thing is that he is not alone in these views, there are thousands like him living next door to you and I.

    STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,

    Martin.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:08, Blogger The Narrowbhoat Tim said…

    DBBIA


    The pub The Magpie in Carlise is on Victoria Rd not Warwick as you posted yesterday. Area code CA1 2UF.
    In the Oakwell pub in Warwick now drinking Barnsley Bitter now. The landlord said your pint might be cheaper than the £1.55 here as Carlise is nearer to the brewery.

    The Bitter tastes Better with a stolen glass when you're messing with the Tims from Mars.



    GrandUnionCanalDivingteam CSC

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:12, Blogger Dharma Bam said…

    Possilbhoy

    There' s a link to instructions on how to insert links at the top og this page on the right hand side. It's under Common Questions.

    All thanks go to Stevie21

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:12, Blogger Tony Bananas said…

    My wife is from a protestant background but like me is no longer religious [I am atheist I'm not surw how my wife would describe herself] When my daughter was born one of my in-laws enquired as to whether we would be raising her as a catholic. When the answer was given in the negative his in-law expressed relief that "she won't get drawn into all that sectarian nonsense then".

    The insidious sleekit side of bigotry eh? A tactic peculiar to Protestant bigots. Closely related to "it's all Catholic schools' fault".

    My wife has a brother who will become a father soon. Needless to say this in-law hasn't expressed any concern that induction to the Church of Scotland may involve any "sectarian nonsense".

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:13, Blogger Gordon_J said…

    tony bananas,

    A worthy contribution to the debate, although I think you give some of them too much credit by assuming they have a thought out position. It's not so much that they hate what they think a Celtic supporter is, but they hate the notion of "inferiors" in "their" country. The stereotype of an “IRA supporting, alien, dole scrounger” was created in attempt to justify their bigoted view of the world, not the reason for it.

    The basic view they have is of the protestant supremacy in Scotland. Everything else follows from there. It is very similar to the Nazi view of the master race. And Rangers is the vehicle that they use to propagate their vile views.

    Everyone in this country knows what that club stands for. The history is well documented. Refusing to wear green, or to have green straws in their stadium, may appear eccentric but it simply shows the depth of the hatred they have.

    I posted a week or so ago about how boys (and a few girls) start following a club because their family and/or friends do. That’s only natural. But adults have the ability to make a choice. Those who stood in our stadium singing about the Famine were there by choice. They are part of the problem. They really are Scotland’s Shame.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:13, Blogger smelltheglove said…

    oh dear, why does the manager have to do that.

    he does make thier job easy for them.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:18, Blogger ElDiegoBhoy said…

    Dharma Bam

    The poster formerly known as Noel90 has been admitted to a residence for the elderly but happily I can say that he continues to enjoy good health and lurks when time permits.

    Bigjoe has been posting recently having not long since arrived back from darkest Africa. No ransom was paid.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:28, Blogger Kojo said…

    My dear,dear,dear,dear friend.... Johnny...@ 1800.

    Hail,fellow well met!

    You ARE... a stranger!

    Good to hear from you,palomine

    The fact that you have stamped your imprimatur on my glowing ,but nevertheless..accurate, summation of Scott's undoubted qualities...means a lot to me.

    There is no one...I repeat ...no one... who knows all of the flaws and weaknessess of our up and comers, bettah, than you, Pal!

    Thanks,John.

    Your comment on the probable selection of Bobo,instead..is ...Regrettably.... True!

    Kojo.
    yer pal... who always pays strict attention, when ere ye publish a critique,of our Yoof System.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:39, Blogger Dharma Bam said…

    Thanks for the update El Diego Bhoy.

    Glad to hear to hear they are still around.

    No ransom eh?

    dialupceltsarewe.csc

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:42, Blogger tinytim said…

    Kojo.

    I for one will welcome Big Bobo with open arms.

    He is a warrier and a winner.
    Just what we need.
    If Mr Cuthbert is that good heis time will come.

    Now is not the time to experiment with Yoofs.
    When the
    The fans will also have more patience then,and this would allow the young man to settle.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:43, Blogger lurgan53 said…

    I was listening to a rerun of Superscoreboard today - sad I know - and was disappointed at a number of Celtic fans who phoned in pooh poohing the criticism of the Naka banner. One said it "was abit of craic" - another was equally dismisive. Their reasoning behind their banner was that it was a reference to the fact that eating dog meat was a delicacy in certain countries in the Far East most notably Korea, but not Japan - leaving the banner carriers with some "good natured" egg on their faces due to their geographical ignorance. This reasoning has also been pouted on Radio.

    Am I the only one to think differently? Was the banner not a reference - and I'm trying to chose my words carefully here - to the untrue and distasteful perception / joke that Chinese restaurants use stray dogs / cats etc for food? That was my take on the banner and I beleive radio pundits deliberately chose not to see it. It was not a bit of craic or anything as mild. It was outright and deliberate racist taunting.

    Apologies if this has been posted earlier. Can I emphasise at this point ny abhorance at the banner and all its implications.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:43, Blogger tinytim said…

    Last thread should read.
    When the title race is over for us.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:44, Blogger dontbrattbackinanger said…

    Nazz- Victoria Road is off Warwick Road, so not a major detour.

    In 1916 the government were so concerned about the level of drunkenness in the huge Moorside factory around Gretna[ employing 25,000 people!] that they set up the Carlisle and District State Management Scheme, so effectively the Government was the landlord.

    The scheme ran until the early 70s, and then was sold off into private hands, much to my dad's annoyance as he says the Nationalised Border Brewery was a good pint. As part of the scheme an architect called Redfern was invited to design a 'new model pub' with gardens etc of which the Magpie is a surviving example.

    Anyways, smelly Leeds had better not get their 15 points back...

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:44, Blogger Bhoy Sean said…

    The BBC are quite sly with the 606 comments in their articles. I don't think I've ever seen a Celtic article without having some sort of comment such as "Strachan is rubbish" etc as the featured comment. At the moment they have put the wise comment from HandOfUglyBetty as the supplementary comment to do with an article discussing Gordon's unwillingness to discuss his future. The comment says: 'Stuff this O'Leary nonsense- it's got to be Keane.' I agree with HandOfUglyBetty in the sense that I don't want O'Leary as Celtic manager but the relation to the article is quite slim. I can only assume it was picked as it is negative. I'm getting disappointed at the willingness to presume Gordon is gone in the summer. He may well leave even if I hope not but I find the medias assumptions irritating and I believe they're making his job untenable with the constant presumption that he's a dead man.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:46, Blogger itzallova said…

    Tony Bananas @ 18.45

    I have to nip out now Tony but top man, thanks for the reply, I will have a closer look at when I'm back on.

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:49, Blogger smelltheglove said…

    http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=663918

     
  • At 18/04/08 19:54, Blogger Tony Bananas said…

    smelltheglove - I am not sure about your cryptic reference but if you mean the story about Celtic not hearing about the Caldwell suspension till after the media, then why shouldn't he mention it?
    Good on him. Why on earth would you want him to cow-tow when the SFA are showing such blatant disregard.

    The SFA response seems spectacularly childish for such a high profile organisation -

    "Because you can imagine, if it was our job to phone around all the clubs in Scotland, it would be a huge task."

    So red cards after the 90 minutes are a dime a dozen in the Scottish league are they??

    No wonder clubs end up playing players not realising they are suspended. {expletive} pathetic, petty, response!

    I see the BBC have followed up with another Strachan bashing story "Wilson backs bodyswerving boss". Great prominence is given to a fans debate graphic about who the next managers should be with the O'Leary rumour mentioned.

    Is there a big game coming up?

    Go on Wee Gordon... GIRFUT!

     
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