Club, fans and media unite on Tommy Burns
Thanks to everyone for leaving such fine
sentiments today. They were a compelling
reminder that not all people are the same and that some even manage to be an
inspiring example to the rest of us.
We lost a fine example of how life should
be led today, so maybe you and I should aspire to fill the gap.
I
thought Peter Lawwell spoke well on
our behalf and the media, as they often do on occasions like this, came into
their own. For future reference, illness
does not need to be reported regularly or in detail, or in pictures.
Well done to the Rangers fans who paid their respects
at Celtic Park today. They've endured
international condemnation over the last 24 hours and it's going to get tougher
still in the weeks to come, including on these pages, but they are a credit to
their club.
Gordon Strachan lost a close friend today and it showed. I heard he left Celtic Park after the recent
3-2 win over Rangers and instead of celebrating went straight to St Mary's in
the Calton where he lit a candle and prayed for his ill friend. You don't need to be born a Celtic fan to be
Celtic minded; maybe spending time around Tommy Burns is enough.
I will establish a prominent link to the
previous article so if you would like to leave an enduring message please do so
there.
I'll leave you tonight with words from our
friend, Estadio:
"Many many times in my years stretching out the seconds minutes hours and days
as I wander across God's sod, I have tasted the joyful sweet tears of victory,
the bitter acid tears of defeat and the defiant cold-steel tears of
determination.
In only a few cases have I ever
experienced the kaleidoscope of sadness, laughter, admiration, regret and
inspiration that comes with the passing of Tommy.
Celtic Park this morning was like one of those time lapse photographs speeded
up even more than normal, as scarf after scarf, bouquet after bouquet, banner
after banner, and tribute after tribute gradually consumed the railings and
pavings surrounding Brother Walfrid culminating in a massive white standard
laid out across the small car park outside East Main Stand, bearing an
Celtic-green inlaid image of Tommy and the simple but revealed truth - 'Tommy
Burns Celtic legend'.
As this huge emotional jigsaw of respect, farewell and love flowered in front
of my eyes, the sadness was palpable! As I walked past the tributes and thought
of Tommy running to the crowd I smiled and laughed. As I looked at the pictures
of him as a boy growing to a man but always a bhoy, I grasped again the
admiration. And as I read the words written by a thousand hands on Celtic,
Rangers, Kilmarnock, and St Mirren colours and remembered in turn his own
words, I breathed deeply as I sensed again the inspiration that he provided to so
many youngsters that have passed through the doors of Celtic Park, of
Barrowfield, and now of Lennoxtown.
And then as the cameras and radio mikes behind me swung into action and the
victims for 'just a few words' were summoned and asked 'what are your memories
of Tommy', all those emotions and memories of my own became no more than a blur
as I tried to think just what I would say if anyone was daft enough to ask me
(they weren't!).
I was stuck for words!
I just couldn't come up with a coherent view of Tommy as a player, a manager, a
coach or even as a man, without seeing him in the context of the club whose
founder and home towered above and in front of me, and it was as I stared at
Brother Walfrid that I suddenly knew just what I remembered of Tommy.
For 120 years football has been played by those sporting the colours of Celtic
Football Club at the current ground and the previous one just over the back
where the ginger factory now stands. During that 120 years, sometimes glorious,
sometimes desperate, sometimes victorious and sometimes vanquished, an
occasional man or woman of substance has arrived on the scene like a shaft of
sunlight on the dullest of days to illuminate and remind us of exactly why any
of us are bothered about this club, why it ever mattered in the first place and
why it should matter in the future.
Few lights have shone brighter than Tommy, and none have lit up so many dark
corners for so long as he has done in is all-too-brief 51 years, and none came
with the smile, the laugh, the raised hand and the unbowed shoulders that said
to us all, 'this matters you know, this club means something, how we represent
this club means as much, and how we represent ourselves is the foundation upon
which the first two are built'!
But there was more.
Tommy Burns as a player was also Tommy Burns the supporter.
Tommy was no badge kisser; he never needed to be one.
Tommy was no chest-thumper; he never needed to be one.
Tommy was devoid of platitudes; he never needed to spout them.
Think now of Celtic Park and European nights in particular. Think of the
support - the twelfth man.
Think how, as backs to the wall, the passion, desire, and urging of the whole
ground in full song inject adrenalin into those who may not fully understand
this club, and how they suddenly produce that extra step, that extra leap, that
extra sprint to pull the rabbit of victory from the dark deep depths of defeat!
Tommy never needed that support from the terraces and stands!!
Tommy had his own Celtic support system raging like a furnace inside him and
even in the lowest silent moments of our despair that burning desire lit up his
team-mates and lit up the crowd and the fire would spread on a breeze of
confidence, pride and perseverance.
Victory or defeat? It didn't matter. We knew who Tommy was and he knew who we
were.
We were the same! It was just that he was
better at being the same than we could ever manage!
And for those who say that Tommy's passing
demonstrates just how unimportant football really is, could I just say that
somehow Im not sure that Tommy would have totally agreed!
The power of football, the dream that is Celtic and the smiddies of poverty in
which they were forged, enthralled, captured and inspired in Tommy Burns the
desire, determination, and imagination to become the man that we all grew to
cherish.
At the core of his soul was his Catholic faith, but a faith that was not
exclusive or blinkered; a faith whose true founding principles of faith, love
and charity guided just about every step of his waking life, and a faith that
nurtured the seeds of respect that he had for colleagues, opponents, and peers
from every walk of life.
I know that undoubtedly Tommy would have been the same man even without
football! But without football, I doubt if he would have been known by so many
for the man that he was. More importantly I doubt he would have influenced so
many to become the people that they now are, and left a legacy that enriches so
many people worldwide.
To me Tommy Burns did not just epitomise Celtic, Tommy was someone through whom
you could view the essence of Celtic and in Celtic you could see the reflection
of Tommy! After all how many can say that they supported, played for, managed,
coached and represented this club. All of those who did were and are giants and
Tommy was and always will be a giant among even them, for he did all that and
even more.
And so as I close my eyes to think again of what my memories of Tommy Burns are
and just how I would answer such a question, I can see my own minds-eye
appearing as a u-tube video!
There's a brash young smiling red-haired
Glaswegian running towards me across the Celtic Park turf, hand raised in
triumph, his stride shortening as he looks around at the cheering and rapturous
crowd; the colours on his top begin to fade and his garments are gradually
replaced by club suit and tie; his hair fades from that brilliant red to a
distinguished grey, and a hundred different players hug him and he hugs them as
he takes another step towards me standing at first in the jungle and then out
of my seat beneath a towering north stand; a change again to a track suit and
as Dalglish becomes Aitken and then Stubbs and then De Canio and finally
McDonald, McGeady, Boruc and Caldwell, with one almighty leap, as Celtic get to
the Champions' League again, he flies through the air to land on the pyramid of
celebrations!
Is it a bird?
Is It a Plane?
Is it Superman?
"Naw - It's Tommy Twists, Tommy Turns, Tommy Burns!"
Thanks for the smile Tommy! Thanks for the memory! But most of all just thanks!
I'll be seein you wan day!
Hail Hail
Estadio"
1st?
k13rdo, that’s the kind of man we’ve lost.
Welcome RoughBoundsBhoy.
Theplanner, thanks for that, and for the excellent story about your Mother.
An excellent idea; our friends at Sixtee7.com have nominated MacMillan, who do excellent work in Scotland.
Does anyone know how best to arrange donations to MacMillan?
Welcome Whiteybhoy.
I have to say The Herald has truly surpassed itself with it's 'slideshow' tribute. A wonderful tribute.
Number 14 will make you smile.
44-46 will make you nod your head.
Number 18 will have you in tears, like me right now.
What a fitting tribute no more needs to be said.
REST IN PEACE TOMMY
evening all..
first chance Ive had to post today..like others was heading for work to give the wildebeast what for when I got the text about Tommy Burns..devasted with the news..
been some cracking stuff on here today with folks memories of TB and Ive just about managed to keep a lid on it, but when I watched the press conference and then the pictures of WGS.. fraid
I just wept..
Only met him twice..both times he came to visit a mate of mine in the western who had kidney trouble..TB always brightened up his day on the numerous occasions that he visited during my mates lengthy hospital stay..he would always come with stuff like signed posters/programmes/pennants etc for him..
One day he turned up with one of his old european tops with the bold number 10 on the back and gave it to my mate..it meant so much to him to get that jersey..
Over time my mates condition gradually deteriorated and he died in early 2000..he was buried wearing that strip..
Tommy Burns RIP
YOU WILL NEVER WALK ALONE
PAUL, ESTADIO
That was so so beautifully put, His total Catholic Christian principles would have made Brother Walfrid immensely proud.
I,m off to Bed now well done to Rangers fans today they done their club proud.
Good night all I,m emotionally shattered.
I will say it again
I,m so so proud that Tommy Burns had a passion for the club we all love.
I want to say a quick thank you to Paul 67 for all his contributions today
I also want to say Thank you also to everyone that posted re Tommy today it has been an absolute pleasure reading all of the tributes to MR CELTIC.
Good night
Hail Hail Roccobhoy.
Paul,
It's pretty easy to donate to MacMillan on line as a one off.
Or I'm sure that something a little bigger could be worked out with their fundraising staff.
Off the top of my head, I'm thinking that there are several hundred people on this site who I'm sure would be willing to make a donation. That would add up to a tidy sum.
Now I'm sure a wee bit of publicity could be gatehred for a donation to MacMillan in Tommy's memory and that we could perhaps get someone from the club to present a cheque?
If you think there is something in this, I would be happy to be involved. I'm off to bed now but drop me an e-mail tomorrow.
hi paul and everyone one the CQN. im a long long time lurker but felt i had to join up officially tonight. ive cried all night and i never met tommy but you just knew he was one of the best. its a tragic loss for everyone especially tommy's family but the depth of feeling/admiration/ancedotes/respect across the board and particularly on here helps cushion the blow in a small comforting way. tonight makes me incredibably proud to support celtic football club. paul.. keep up the good work my man.. (good job the cooncil i work for does not allow me to acess site from work or i would get no work done at all !
The funeral arrangements are enormously fitting. In case anyone has not seen them on the Celtic FC website:
The funeral of Tommy Burns will take place on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 at St. Mary's Church, Abercromby Street, Calton, Glasgow. The Requiem Mass will begin at 12noon.
St. Mary's is a parish which Tommy was extremely close to personally. St. Mary's Church Hall was also the birthplace of Celtic Football Club, when in November 1887, Brother Walfrid along with others discussed the establishment of a football club to feed the poor in the East End of Glasgow.
Unfortunately, due to restrictions on seating at the church, access to the service will be predominantly for family, friends and club representatives and there will only be very limited public access.
Following the Requiem Mass, the funeral cortege will pass by the Main Stand at Celtic Park where supporters will have the opportunity to pay their respects to Tommy Burns.
Dear All,
Off to bed now...too much Guiness already passed my lips...
I loved the idea of lobbying for a change to the 'Lennoxtown' name in honour of TB...any mileage in this? I know it's raw emotion today, but I'd like our under 16's right up to our first team to see TB's name every time they break out into a sweat...
Inspiration...of the right sort. Let's see what happens...
Gagsy from previous thread
sky listings for Celtic TV sky 436 have no mention of the Green Room being repeated, though imagine it will.
The Birthday Bhoys - re: centenary season - scheduled to be repeated tonight Friday @ 10:30 pm, also Monday @ 10:00 pm.
Ive Just watched the 3 press conferences together. We had 3 people showing how much Tommy meant to them.
A big Hand for our captain who has taken a bit of stick recently he handled himself well especially considering his young age. If I remember correctly he done the same for Phil.
God bless and good night to all of the Celtic family
superb superb superb tribute
Brilliant tribute Estadio-sums up the man to a tee.
Re my comment at the end of the previous thread I clearly erased 1976 completely from my mind!
Paul agree with your comments re Rangers fans -many have shown true class on a difficult day for themselves.Tommy I am sure would have been very proud.
roccobhoy,
saddened even further tonight after reading that 1st?
Surely this is the time to put an end to the podium and put Tommy Burns 1st where he belongs!
gsu
RIP Mr Celtic.
A true gentleman, a family man and a man of the people. One of us.
You'll be sadly missed Tommy, thanks for the wonderful memories.
Brian.
Just watched the Gordon Strachan press conference.He has laughed every day since he joined Celtic.(I expect that's been because he's been priviledged to be in Tommys company for most of that time).Gordon,you done us proud today.Hope you stay for at leat 4 in a row.Tommy R.I.P.
God bless you and your family Tommy, now and forever.
Dick Byrne @ 8:32, it must break your heart all over again to type that. I don't know you, but my thoughts are sincerely with you too
Gagsy,
The full listings from tonight are repeated during the day tomorrow, starting from 9am ( the programmes all have the wrong titles, but it will be in there.
Lets not forget Tommy's love for Football and our club.Nothing would be a more fitting monument to the man than winning this title and showing up our Nations Shame for what they really are.
Let's put our hands in our pockets and make a difference to people lives.
Donating to MacMillan only takes a few seconds. A one off donation can be done here
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Like everyone else here I feel gutted by what has happened today but I also feel inspired by a great man.
Tommy transcended bitterness and rivalry and leaves me feeling humble and immensely proud to think that a man that great held Celtic football club in such high regard so close to his heart.
Hail Hail.
P.B.J. WhoseNameDoesNotSeemAppropriateRightNow
As i was reading peoples thoughts on tributes to Tommy, i thought that one for him could be to do what Motherwell did for Phil O'Donnell & put his signature on our hooped top, maybe even only for our game against Dundee Utd. The sight of Tommy's name on their shirt would inspire our bhoys to do what he did so many times, winning the league trophy.
Just a wee thought from one Celtic fan to another.
Goodnight & God Bless You Tommy.
" YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE "
Mark McGhee said it best tonight: Tommy Burns embarrassed you into being a better person.
I'm sure many Celtic fans woke up this morning with a glint in their eye and a smile, all ready to get tore into their Rangers-supporting workmates.
Then the news came through . . . and suddenly it wasn't important any more.
Then we saw Rangers fans stop off at Celtic Park on their way back from Manchester; and suddenly respect replaced hate.
Tommy Burns did that.
Then I saw Gordon Strachan, clearly emotional, relating how he'd been with Tommy only a few hours before his death. His words were beautiful and clearly from the heart.
He was clearly a close friend of Tommy Burns. And to have been accorded that privilege, he must be a pretty decent human being.
That's when I felt embarrassed as I recalled, with a cringe, some of the terrible things I'd written and said about our manager.
And that's when I remembered that horrible, un-Celtic moment at the end of the Motherwell game at Parkhead when a minority belted out a vile chant about our manager.
Hopefully, some of those who sang that day will now feel embarrassed, too.
I feel today has drawn Gordon Strachan closer into the Celtic family, and drawn the Celtic family closer to him.
Tommy Burns did that.
Even in the sad, sad hours after his passing, he has embarrassed us into being better human beings. And better Celtic fans.
In future, whenever you need to know the course of action you should take in a situation, ask yourself this:
What would Tommy Burns have done?
You'll be the better for it.
May he rest in peace.
Nite, Tam
X
Left this at the tail-end of the last thread but I screwed up the link, so I'll try again.
I find these words to be very appropriate in these circumstances.
Wind Beneath My Wings
pablophanque
Paul67,
TB death has really hit GS very hard. I think a lot of people underestimated the closeness of the two them. Sounded like GS relied a lot on TB in the begining. TB having been threw it all himself has enabled him to guide Gordon on certain aspects he probably found difficult himself as well as other problems associated with the job.
I was proud our manager today. He done the club proud by managing hold everything togther and speak about his friend. I also believe that each and every passing day and unfortunate circumstances that have happened over the past couple of years like Jinky, Phil and now Tommy has shown how special and close club we are and he actually feels immense pride that he's manager of a great club.
"You don't need to be born a Celtic fan to be Celtic minded"
sums up perfect for me mate. Gordon we are proud to have you. Long may it continue!!
Let's get behind our manager and players in what will be a difficult game next week given the circumstances today. Regardless of the outcome let's make it a celebration of a great man(Tommy Burns) and show his close friend(Gordon Strachan our manager)why we are such a special club and give him the necessary support he needs while getting over this difficult time as well.
Paul67,
Give tht £20 note a wee rub on Saturday at 12:30pm.
paul 67
Stunningly put.
God bless Tommy Burns
JohnBhoy 12.43
Exactly.
Sorry previous post did not work link for DD to macmillan is
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JohnBhoy,well said.The manager was hurting big time today,but still faced the cameras.Leadership in abundance-MANAGER-CAPTAIN-CHIEF EXEC-Proud of them.We are the 12th man & need to win this league now for Tommy.We have the right people in place.Let's all get together & deliver.Tommy YNWA.
hail hail !!!
im sure st peter will be waiting at the gates for you tommy holding them wide open ushering you in to paradise........hope to see you one day
thankyou from a 35year old man with tears in his eyes after reading all this tonight
WGS,
Well put.
Hopefully our manager will hear his name being chanted next Thursday as well as Tommy's.
That was a wonderful post Paul & Estadio.
As a club I think we have had more tragic moments than most. We've had a lot of sad and troubling times in the last decade alone with the deaths of Tommy, Phil, Murdoch and Jinky, we've also had the threatening illnesses of Morten Wieghorst and Alan Stubbs. Not to mention the less tragic but still upsetting moments such as John Kennedy's possibly career ruining injury. I'm sure that have been others moments which I have missed as well. I think my point is that our reactions to each of these moments highlight what a family our club is. We unite in times of adversity and we appreciate our own and in a sense I see Tommy as the Godfather figure for our club. His spirit will oversee the club for eternity alongside the other greats and I think Tommy would be happy with the idea that he managed to bring the Celtic family closer together.
Something strange happened to me last night. I didn't go to bed until around 2/3am and before going to bed my mood took a dramatic change. Earlier I had been watching with glee and horror at the antics of Rangers fans, I was feeling quite satisfied that the world had finally been exposed to what they've always been like.
My good mood changed quite quickly though and I found myself dropped into an unexplainable low which I still cannot explain now. I don't really believe in the supernatural and it's unlikely that I sensed the bad news coming, so maybe it was a realisation that I don't want hate to be in this world and neither do I want to enjoy seeing the hate of others being exposed. It also brought about a depressing through that the nation which i belong to has been tarnished.
Despite this when I woke up this morning I turned my laptop on with a renewed eagerness to find out what the aftermath of last night was and I was looking forward to finding out what sactions will be taken against them. What I got I didn't expect though and was hit by this sad news which put me instantly into tears which I have came back on a number of occassions today as I have read everyones wonderful stories.
Like many others I have felt ashamed of myself for the hate I have for Rangers. Tommy definitely embarrassed you into being a better person, he had an uncanny knack for reminding you that your priorities are in the wrong place. Tragic moments bring the most unlikely of people together, today we have seen a number of tributes being shown towards a Celtic man from the otherside of the divide. I'm not foolish enough to think that it will last forever but I think it's a beautiful though that Tommy can unite us all and proving that a undeniable good can prosper.
As the saying goes, 'no man is bigger than the club', but no-one ever did, or ever will, come as close as Tommy Burns.
RIP Tommy
Derryglas, DeniaBhoy Dick Byrne, cosvaldo and others ….. no words, extraordinary people.
Take care of yourselves and your loved ones.
nice photo tribute by the herald, I take my hat off to the rangers supporters there to pay tribute to a true celtic legend, it shows us that in times like this football takes second place. RIP Tommy, you will be sadly missed.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6I8hF9TTkkk
watched the tribute show on celtic tv earlier tonight,the video at the end was very emotional especially the footage of Tommy throwing his boots into the Jungle and blowing kisses to the crowd.The tears were running down my face.
Mr Celtic
Hail Hail
I landed in Atlanta this afternoon and phoned my wife and she passed on the devestating news.
I didn't know Tommy but I met him once. He was Celtic and Celtic was Tommy.
I remember a Tommy Burns Supper in Edinburgh...despite plenty lookouts Tommy managed to wander into Teviot Row and up to the banquet hall without anyone noticing. All the other invited guests including Billy McNeil and Jim Craig were in the bar having a right old laugh.
Tommy was spotted chatting with big Jackie McNamara and I was the only committe member in the main hall so I had to go over...and speak...to bloody Tommy Burns...the same guy who when I was 10 scored one of the best goals ever at Tannidice on the way to winning the league that night...
What do you say to the guest of honour? "Eh..Tommy? Does anyone know you're here?"..."No son"..."Ah...well you're no supposed to be here...better come with me and I'll get you a drink..."
I'll cherish those Suppers.
Tommy Twists, Tommy Turns, Tommy Burns!
So so sad. I've never doubted the capability of Rangers fans to be as humane as us, I am so glad that they, along with all us Bhoys, Girls and other Scotsmen/women have fittingly shown their respect to a man such as Tommy. Comparisons are never fitting for the death of any life, but I will say that Tommy's passing leaves me with more sadness than the death of Mr Phil O'Donnell earlier in the seaon (who could have foreseen the deaths of two such 'Celtic-minded' men this season?), perhaps because of the cumulative effect of two such deaths within months of each other.
Estadio, it is inconceivable that you have not made millions from your gift to shape words into art that reflects what everyone else is thinking. You express the feelings of the majority before they even realise how they feel.
Paul67, this season for the forum has surely surpassed your original expectations of how Celticquicknews.co.uk would evolve, not only with your own regular reporting but with the increasingly profound meanderings from the multitude who post here.
Tommy Burns you will be missed. May we, the Celtic support, live to see a man or woman who will equal your effect on our club and lives.
JohnBhoy @12.43..
Thanks, for a fine post about someone we all felt we knew.
So well put.
Tommy Burns DID do all of that.
I know I looked at myself more closely today, and made sure I told those that matter to me how much they meant.
I can't better what you said, so thanks again.
HH
P67 - class today, pure class. I went straight to CP at 9 this morning and was blown away by the crowd - it was weird, I wanted to be amongst my own but wanted to be alone. Rangers fans came and went all day and were applauded by us as they left their tributes. There are good guys amongst them.
Tommy was invited to our club (Largs) dance in 1995 which turned out to be the night before the Cup Final! By 9pm he hadn't turned up so El Presidente Mick H - phoned him to chase him up- he was giving the team a final talk and took time to be sure that they were settled - he eventually turned up at 9.45 and was - well just TB - one of us. Next day big Pierre stuck it in the pockey and we've won the cup! TB's greatest fan was sitting next to me that day - Burnsey, and he fell to his knees and burst into tears when the final whistle went. Burnsey passed away 2 years ago and he was at the gates wi a mitre waiting on TB when he arrived this morning!!
This Club is a Family - times like this prove it.
Estadio - respect!
DavieL
The Scribe.
I hope you found writing that as cathartic as I did reading it. Thanks.
Yesterday afternoon I loudly & passionately cheered the defeat of our rivals.
It meant a lot to me. I am never usually emotional when watching a team other than Celtic.
I was sitting in my local next to a married couple visiting from manchester. Man U supporters.
I warned them what was to come for their home city....And that they had picked a good time to visit NY.
When I got home I smugly noted from news reports that I had been proved right.
A couple of Yankees fans I know had asked me why I was so worked up about seeing a team getting beat..
I tried to explain the importance of the result to me... & my team..
I tried to explain the negative energy of their support..
I tried to explain how many of their support are motivated by hate.
I tried to explain how they are portrayed in the media...
Tonight, I think back to yesterday afternoon and consider the possibility that i had been consumed with a little too much negative energy and hate myself.....And how I was portraying myself.
This after an evening reflecting on the Life and Character of Tommy Burns...
And the way he conducted himself as a Man..
I am embarrassed.
Mark McGhees' words struck a chord with me...
Big Time.
Rest in Peace Tommy Burns
Johnbhoy@12.43
Moving and very well said.
Tommy Burns lived and fulfilled the dream.
Player, manager, coach and fans' hero.
He also embodied the spirit that Brother Walfrid envisaged when Celtic were founded.
Celtic and Tommy Burns was a partnership made in heaven.
Working overseas since the late 70s, I didn't see Tommy play much.
I was introduced to him by my late friend, Kevin O'Donnel, when Celtic played a pre season friendly charity game at Broomfield to benefit the hospice, I think around the summer of '82 or '83.
After the game Tommy, he may have been injured at the time, was fussing around filling up and then carrying the team hamper from the pavilion to the bus, all the while chatting to everyone in hearing distance. Even then as an established young player he had no issues or ego about pitching in to help and be a part of the club.
Sadly both Tommy and Kevin were taken from us far too soon.
At least Kevin will whistle appropriately if Tommy goes down in the box.
God bless you both.
'GG
Very sad today. Tommy Burns one of my favorites growing up watching the bhoys. Thoughts go out to his family especially his wife and kids.
R.I.P Tommy, you will always be remebered!
The only way to finish off a wake in honour of, as someone said earlier, a gentleman and a gentle man.
Danny Bhoy
RIP Tommy.
'GG
Hi Paul
What a sad and strange day yesterday was.
Being on a high after the Rangers result, driving to work looking forward to a good day’s gloating and then hearing the sports news on the radio bringing us the sad news about Tommy. The much maligned Chick Young’s voice breaking with emotion.
My feelings of schadenfreude being replaced with guilt at the pettiness of it all.
Sitting at work reading the many tributes on this wonderful blog, tears welling up in my eyes.
Being stunned at the grief stricken face of Gordon Stachan. Don’t anyone ever again say that he’s not a Celtic man.
Back at home watching the news reports on tv, trying not to cry in front of my kids.
Listening to two wonderful shows on Radio Clyde and then Radio Scotland. I haven’t read the blog since yesterday afternoon, so I don’t know if anyone heard either of these programmes. The Clyde show, with Peter Martin, Hugh Keevins, Andy Walker and Graham Speirs was really touching. All telling stories about Tommy, the warmth of their friendship shining through. Whenever I hear Mack the Knife now I’ll think of Tommy.
Unlike many of you on this blog I never met Tommy. However I watched him closely since he first broke into the team in the mid 70’s. I remember raving about this young guy with the sweet left foot. We had someone as good as Liam Brady in our team.
One of my favourite Tommy performances from those days was a demolition of Dundee one cold February night in 1977. We anialated them 7-1, George McCluskey bagging a hat trick. Tommy was spraying beautiful passes everywhere that night. I thought with these 2 brilliant young men in the team, the good times would soon return.
Tommy’s performance’s back then where sheer class. I have a sentence etched in my memory from a match report by Ian Paul in the Herald, which captures them. Tommy had just returned from injury and was on the bench that day. I can’t remember who we were playing, but the match report summed up Tommy’s skill when he came on in the second half “ ….deft touches, back heelers and blind side passes of uncanny accuracy were all introduced to the game when Burns came on”.
What a horrible few months it’s been for the Celtic family. First Phil and then Tommy. I always remember that photograph of the pair of them when Tommy signed Phil for the club. Both of their faces beaming. Two guys living the dream.
What’s going on here god?
Why take these two good men so early?
My thoughts and prayers are with Tommy's wife and family.
For once i feel lost for words.
A great , great man and a legend in our times.
When we think of players over the last 10-15 years who may have been seen as legends and compare them to Tommy........to me thats what makes him stand head and shoulders above many.
A man who dedicated his love, devotion, faith and commitment to his family and Celtic.
To many of us THAT is our ultimate goal in life.
Tommy achieved that by putting his whole heart into everything he loved.
Thanks Tommy for making us feel humble and to make us know that we can strive to be a better person.
rest in peace tommy
A real legend
To me, Tommy Burns was the perfect example of how to live life and how to love life. The fact that he was one of us, made me all the more proud of him. He was the epitome of everything Celtic represents and his loss will be deeply felt for years to come.
CQN has once again excelled itself over the last 24 hrs, with some remarkable personal stories, moving tributes and magnificent definitions of a great man. Special mentions for Paul67, Estadio and Winningemmell, in that respect.
God bless, Tommy and thanks for the memories.
Estadio.
This is why i have referred to you as the genius before.
Outwardly,Tommy would have been humbly embarrassed by such word's.Inside ,i'm sure that he would be bursting with pride.
God Bless you Tommy Burns.
I pray that the loved ones that you have left behind ,can move from grief, to warm happy memories very quickly.
I loved Tommy Burns because he, like me, is a ginger! When I was growing up, I was too young to know/appreciate the '88 season, but I knew all about the '95 Scottish Cup win; Tommy was MY manger, just like Martin O'Neill is my nephew's generation's manager.
When I was younger, I was the 'only Ginger in the village' and I'd be taunted for it - still do! - some in gest, some not. One day I was taunted: Name one famous person who has ginger hair...
My reply: Tommy Burns!
The taunter sniggered and said "He's not even famous!"
I told him "Tommy Burns is the manager of Celtic. He's the most famous person in the world!" and I folded my arms, sat back and felt as proud and as smug to be a ginger!!
Only met the fella once, on his way to Mass in Barcelona on the day of the game in the Nou Camp. We drew 0-0 that night and went through. I remember thinking: He must have SERIOUS connections up there...
Great Herald tribute by the way.
Paul 67,Estadio and winningemmell (from last link) thank you,your tributes have been special,very very special.
Go in peace Tommy.
Somehow the news of Tommy’s death has left me feeling even more raw today than when I first heard the news. I posted my own, very inadequate, tribute to Tommy yesterday but Mark McGhee’s word that “Tommy embarrassed you into being a better person” have really struck a chord with me. Like many others Tommy’s death has made me have a very hard look at myself. I feel ashamed that I so wanted Rangers to lose the other night; Tommy wouldn’t have. I feel ashamed at the perverse pleasure I took that some of their fans disgraced themselves in a way that I hoped they would; Tommy wouldn’t have wanted that. If through his passing Tommy has made us pause and look at ourselves and think “Is there another way?” then his life, and his death, do have a point.
I only met Tommy twice and on one of those occasions, while in a private conversation with him, he told me that he admired me for something that I had done. I was not deserving of his admiration, he was twice the man I will ever be. But, if his passing motivates me, even in just a little way, to become the person that provoked his admiration, then my little bit of the world will be the better for it.
Thank you Tommy, and may you rest in peace.
Long time lurker but felt I had to join in the condolences.
Still can't get my head around Tommy Burns' death!
I'm so shocked by this sad news.
God rest his soul.
Thanks blantyretim for the heads up.
GG
In case no-one saw the trailer last night, just to confirm that there is a tribute to Tommy being shown tonight on STV at 10:30pm.
DF
GG No prob.
posted about this time yesterday when I heard the news. Still numb and i was in tears watching the grren room last night.
Thommy lived his life the way we all shouild and this world is a better place for having had the man. He will bw missed by people who knew him as well as those who didn't..
He was a very humble and honest man..
God bless Thommy Burns..RIP
I loved that team, of the late 70s, early 80s. They may have under-achieved in Europe, but on the home front they held their own during the last period the league was genuinely competitive.
They played some good stuff, fantastic attacking, real Celtic football from the likes of Mcgrain ,Aitken, Mcleod, Provan, Nicholas and Mcgarvey.
But Tommy was my the one I loved to watch, coolly running the left side of the pitch, ably assisted by his left back mucker Mark Reid. Always looking for the pass, the through ball which would unpick the opposition defence.
Funnily enough one of my strongest memories of him had an unfortunate ending- we were playing Dundee at CP and murdering them thanks to two sumptuous goals from CN and Tommy himself. In the second half he pulled a muscle, but refused to go off and Dundee scored. The game finished 2-2, and the points dropped helped Dundee United win the League that year.
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Morning all.
DBBIA, I think I was at that game, but believe it was the one in which Frank McGarvey scored a screamer. I had him and Tommy as the scorers in my memory’s Wee Red Book.
Seeing the tears in Gordon Strachan's eyes yesterday made me think
How can anyone say he is not a Celtic man
He may not have been previously, but the day he joined Celtic he became a Celtic man
THE moment that moved me most yesterday was seeing our manager play tribute to Tommy Burns. It epitomised for me all that Tommy stood for, all that Celtic will always stand for. I felt honoured that Gordon Strachan is our manager. I hope he continues for many a long year. He is Celtic through and through. I did not write this yeaterday because I did not want to detract in any way from what was being shared about Tommy.
I woke this moring to the thought about why Tommy is a legend for me. To me, he was the true Celtic player; he could pass the ball. That to me is the measure by which I judge a player. I don't wish to cause any controversy but he is up there with Paul McStay and Charlie Gallgher to me and that says it all. CLASS. May you rest in peace, Tommy.
C1st - you may be right. My memory is in a similar condition to a Mancunian large screen TV these days, but I thought Frank saved his screamers for the Buddies.
Perhaps WishawGalactico or Gordon will be able to shed light on this.
Paul
Your posts just get better and better, but harder to read with the lump I have in my throat.
I feel as if Tommy Burns and I were brothers, seperated at birth by different mothers. He was Mr Celtic, a man who epitomised our club, our feelings, our culture and our passion.
Till we meet again Tommy, I will always be thinking of you.
Billy McNeill always said there was a certain fairytale about our club - and hopefully this week will see the next chapter - but right now it feels like a curse. So often these days do we seem to have to face tragedy.
We still could dream of Tommy being the manager again and toppling Smith once and for all - just to make up for the pain of the 90's.
I've heard him described as Mr Celtic but for me that's slightly out, for me Tommy Burns was Celtic.
I'm glad we've such fine Celtic servants as Peter Lawwell, Stephen McManus and especially Gordon Strachan at the helm at this time. Next Sunday might just be a special Celtic day.
Speirs latest article:
A club with a poison at its core
Graham Spiers
Utterly predictably, the fate of Rangers is once again to find excitement on the field marred by loutishness and delinquency off it. Losing the Uefa Cup final in Manchester on Wednesday night was no disgrace for Walter Smith or his team, whose very presence at the game was a triumph in itself. Beyond the stadium, however, before and after the match, events told their own story of how accursed Rangers remain as a club.
Willie Waddell, a memorable Rangers manager of the early 1970s, whose team brought the 1972 European Cup Winners’ Cup back to Glasgow, once aimed the following simmering words in the direction of his club’s supporters: “It is to these tikes, hooligans, louts and drunkards that I pinpoint my message. It is because of your gutter-rat behaviour that we are being publicly tarred and feathered like this.”
After that European triumph of 36 years ago, Rangers were banned by Uefa for the rioting of their fans, causing Waddell to implode with rage. The blight of Rangers - defined by loutish behaviour and bigoted chanting among groups of supporters – is proving a durable social poison. Here we are four decades on, still lamenting the seemingly endemic way in which these supporters behave like primitives.
The chaotic scenes in Manchester on Wednesday night - a Zenit fan stabbed, rioting Rangers fans, and 15 policemen getting injured - were frightening to behold. Moreover, the footage released yesterday and shown on Sky News, of hundreds of Rangers fans charging at police and setting upon one who stumbled to the ground, will make the already weary Ibrox hierarchy cringe.
Rangers have a repeated get-out for these episodes: the script always says this is “just a small minority” of fans. Moreover, as incident upon incident passes with the club’s supporters - at Villarreal in 2006, in Pamplona in 2007 and now in Manchester in 2008 - it is always “heavy-handed policing” and not the Rangers fans themselves who are said to be the blame.
Well, this is no small minority of Rangers supporters, and nor are the Greater Manchester Police renowned for their truncheon-wielding brutality. Instead, this is a football club with a poison somewhere at its core.
Such scenes will enrage those legions of decent Rangers supporters who love their club and follow it with impressive ardour. The postmatch eruptions were all the more depressing on Wednesday because the vast Rangers support gathered inside the City of Manchester Stadium had created a brilliant spectacle of colour and noise, including many who stayed on to applaud the Zenit St Petersburg players on their 2-0 triumph.
Other aspects, however, were familiarly ugly. During the day before the match, and certainly in the drunken aftermath, there was too much evidence of the sort of primitivism that enraged Waddell 36 years ago. In particular, bigoted or sectarian chanting remains an excruciating pastime for too many Rangers supporters, despite repeated pleas by the club to give these anthems a rest. For two days in Manchester, if you were based in the city centre as I was, you woke up to these dirges in the morning and you went to sleep to them at night.
Since being punished by Uefa two years ago for such antics by their supporters, Rangers have hired PR people, as well as Kenny Scott, a seasoned and former high-ranking Glasgow policeman, to try to gouge out the social disease which has clamped itself to the club. Scott, in particular, knew very well the inherent dangers of 100,000 Rangers fans descending upon Manchester for the Uefa Cup final.
The downside of Rangers reaching such a prestigious game in as close an area as the north of England was that it was an open invitation for the club’s less impressive followers to display their capacity for drinking, aggression, and sectarian abuse. I would go so far as to say that Scott, as head of security at Rangers, will have been cringeing at the very prospect from the moment the club qualified for the final.
Some spoke yesterday of another Uefa investigation of Rangers, but this surely won’t occur. It is almost impossible for Uefa, however much they care about the image of football, to weigh in on such affairs as public disorder in the city centres of Britain.
But who has the answer to this blight? Can anyone offer Rangers a cure for this ugly delinquency which afflicts a sizeable group of their supporters?
Until that cure is found, the once-proud name of Rangers FC will always trigger thoughts of yobbishness and bigotry. The club, to be blunt, is paying a heavy price for its century-long antipathy towards signing Catholic players, a policy which planted this bitter harvest.
comment:
How about Celtic ? no secterian chantin from them?
or Zenit st Petersburgh no racial taunts aimed at black players? a hint of rangers bashing here.
If the history of hate and rivalry wasnt there between teams I think we would experience a sterile atmosphere.
LFC got us banned 4 5 yrs
Tom Prince, Niigata, Japan
Well said. It's about time more people with a public voice cut through the 'only a tiny minority' excuses with Rangers (and Linfield). Your final sentence hits the nail on the head. Given that for so long Rangers was an institutionally sectarian club, what else can we expect of so many their fans?
Connel McKenna, Belfast, Ireland
NUFC v SUFC, FA Cup semi, both sets of fans were enjoying a drink and banter in a Manchester pub, police then stormed the pub lashing out at kids, old people and everyone else. No officer had id numbers, fans tried to prosecute, nobody was brought to task. FACT.
Dale Storey, Adelaide, Australia.
monthehoops
Guys thanks for the notes for the programmes.
Just got through a day at work yesterday without tears then on the treadmill at the gym sky sports News came on with GS PL and Micks tributes, had to get off the treadmill and walk around the gym, thought I was fine, then switched Celtic tv on and the ending of the tribute had me in tears again, and then this morning, I must have missed your original post Estadio, but the piece at the top of this thread started me off again. Was frightened to read the papers for obituaries this morning as most commuters don't like tears on a train. Am away this weekend, hopefully bumping into some Celtic fans in Luxembourg to share some other TB memories
very moving tribute
thank you
SPL
Jan 3, 1983
Celtic 2 (Burns, Nicholas) Dundee 2
Att - 16,000
all I have just now (at work) - more this evening.
God bless Tommy, the club he loves and Queen of the South.
WG
Watching TV, reading all the posts yesterday and just wallowing in memories of Tommy, one aspect that really hit me right between my eyes was the humility and dignity of such a fantastic man.
Many of the folk in football I have detested for years have spoken well of Tam Burns, a Celtic man to the core and yet a man who could gain the respect of everyone he met in life, and many many that he gave so much joy to on the park and in life.
At a time when Rangers will rightly be under the microscope for the trouble in Manchester, maybe we all need to be more like Tommy Burns and stop pigeon holing all Rangers fans, and start seeing the good in people of all persuasions.
The fact that many Rangers fans upset at not only losing the UEFA Cup but also having their club tarnished by louts, took the time to either post messages or go to Celtic Park to pay their respects, says to me that it is about time we all learned a lesson from TB.
All of us have good friends who did not see the light and support Celtic, friends who are as fervent about Rangers, or any other team, as we are about "Celticfootballclub", as Tommy was portrayed by Jonathon Watson, mates who I would be embarrassed to say some of the things I would say, or think, in their absence.
Dislike them, don't detest them.
Respect them don't revile them.
Let us all take part of Tommy Burns and live our lives in a better way from now on.
Maybe we could let them have their open top bus with just the League Cup on it in a few weeks where we could all applaud them, or maybe I haven't taken all of Tommy's traits and would be in Dumfries watching the Scottish Cup.
Thanks Tommy for teaching me a lesson, it is just a pity that you had to die to convince me. Rest in Peace Tam Burns a true man of his people.
"tommy could embarrass you into being a better person"
so true. i think this hit all of us in this way yesterday.
after watching Celtic tv and reading on here all day yesterday
i put on my PS3 for a release of pressure and play pro evo 2008.
i set up a game with the name
TOMMY BURNS-LEGEND-R.I.P.
within seconds an opponent had appeared.
RANGERS1873 (or similar, cant remember).
the chat went right away to tommy and it being a sad day for football. usually its dogs abuse being hurled this way and that when you know its a rangers supporter (and viceversa) your playing. not last night. the guy told me that his bus had left manchester in the early morning and as usual there was plenty of drink on board. the usual singing of songs was broken by a pal on the bus saying hed just got a txt saying tommy burns had died. the bus fell silent for about 5 minutes he said and then the chant went up...
1 TOMMY BURNS,
1 tommy burns,
theres only 1 tommy burns.
i played a few games with the game name as before and played a few rearangers fans
and a few celtic fans. everyone a gent last night...long may it continue.
thanks tommy.
lochmoybhoy
god was needing a left side to his midfield this year i think.
Whatever we all may think of WGS it is obvious that the wee man is a very, very decent human being.
From the information released he had obviously developed a very good and friendly intimate relationship with Tam.
It is with utmost sincerity that WGS said that Tam was his best signing for Celtic.
Also some nice touches with supporters eg. organising for several of us from the stands to share in the league trophy presentation on the pitch couple of seasons back.
A credit to himself and to Celtic.
I will offer Graham Spiers, not a panacea to the Rangers dilemma, but a beginning in the search of a cure.
Each, and every, Rangers supporter, from the board to the unemployed, must first admit that a problem exists. Without that admission… there will never be a cure.
Rangers Football Club will become a global pariah and a human pox that will be shunned by every city council, by every citizen, worthy of the name, of every town and city anybody cares to mention.
For every obnoxious follower of Rangers - there are dozens of fair minded and kind hearted Rangers supporters. Inexplicably, the majority of decent human beings, that support Rangers, are allowing themselves to be dragged down by society’s gutter crawlers.
It is an enigma beyond comprehension. A social suicide fuelled by Jurassic mind sets.
Why do the good men of Rangers allow it? Why do they not dispense with those who would drag their club down?
The Neanderthals that would shame their club… and our Country.
The future of Rangers Football Club is in the hands of Rangers Football Club.
Do with it what you will.
Tommy Burns passed on to a better place, of that I have no doubt, but maybe, just maybe, with Tommy’s passing the place left behind will be a better place for him having been here.
IrvineCelt - your post reminds me of Ally McCoist's reminiscences, which I saw online earlier today. Worth reprinting here, brought a tear AND a smile to my face:
ALLY McCOIST was a busy man. He and Walter Smith had just been asked to return to Rangers. He had a million things to do and didn't have time to talk to anyone.
Then his phone flashed with a text from Tommy Burns, one of few people to whom he could give a bit of his attention as his life turned upside down 16 months ago.
"Haw you - where am I in this bloody dream team?" read the message.
McCoist smiled briefly yesterday as he recalled that moment while speaking about a pal he once described as "just the best person I have ever met in my life".
He loved Burns. Pure and simple - even if neither he nor Smith thought to invite their old pal to Ibrox with them.
McCoist said: "Walter and I were getting ready to return to Rangers and this text came through from Tam to say he had been reading about a so-called Rangers dream team and had yet to see his own name mentioned.
"He then went on to say that neither of our a**** would last long in our seats before we were out the door.
Then, for good measure, he finished with a PS that said, 'Get it up the pair of yae'.
"Honestly, I killed myself laughing. Only he could get away with that.
"But that was Tam. He wanted to have a laugh with us and couldn't resist a wee dig.
"It is difficult to put into words what Tommy Burns meant to me. He was kind, thoughtful, funny and everything you would want in a man. I can't think of a better person.
"It had obviously been an emotional night on Wednesday and I got a call just before eight in the morning to tell me that Tommy had passed away.
"I was absolutely distraught. I don't mind saying that there was a tear in my eye.
"I loved Tommy. We all did. It's hard to think of anything else eight now."
It's not that Manchester and the UEFA Cup didn't matter. Of course it did. But the Rangers assistant manager has lost another friend too early - just as he did with David Cooper.
The only downside about McCoist going back to Ibrox was that he wouldn't get to spend so much with his Burns as he did when they worked together with the Scotland national team.
Both loved their football and a laugh. If the two could happen at the same time then all the better.
Little wonder that, for once, the Rangers assistant manager struggled to articulate what he was thinking.
McCoist said: "I can't believe Tommy has gone. I have met a lot of good people through football but Tam was the very best.
I don't know a single person with a bad word to say about him.
"You could not ask for a better friend and I'll admit this now - his patter wasn't bad. Hey, he could sing too.
"I knew he was seriously ill but you just hoped he'd get through it. You expected him to because he was such a fighter, such aforce of life.
"You'd never have known he was ill because Tommy never complained. He'd ask about you, the kids and never talk about what he was going through.
"I got a text from him only last week. He wouldn't think to talk about himself, right enough.
"I'm told Rangers fans on their way back from Manchester stopped at Celtic Park to pay their respects.That's sensational.
"But if you didn't like Tam Burns then there was something wrong with you. He was one that crossed the divide.
"I remember talking to him after both ourselves and Celtic got to the Champions League this season. All he could talk about was how great it was for Glasgow to have our two teams in the competition.
"That's what he was like. It wasn't just about his own team, although he loved Celtic. Tam was happy for me and Walter too.
"But I did have to remind him that a man in his 50s should not be seen jumping about like a young thing after Celtic beat Spartak Moscow on penalties.
"I have never in my life met a man so enthusiastic about football. All the players loved him. You couldn't help it, really.
"My heart goes out to Rosemary and the family he adored. They were the most important thing in his life. Tommy had just become a grandpa and 51 is way too young for him leave us."
So what are McCoist's best memories of Burns? He said: "It's of him giving me a cuddle after Scotland scored. We loved our country and took great joy in watching us win. Kenny Miller's goal against Italy, Gary Caldwell in the France game. It was always Tommy I ended up dancing with.
"I laughed every day in his company and even when he got cancer the first time, Tam was still the life and soul of things.
"It's not fair, is it?"
Welcome Green Giant.
Andsomethingshappened, you’re welcome.
Westim, it sure has.
Welcome orchard county bhoy, good to hear from you.
Ternar, thanks.
DavieL, cheers.
Monthehoops @ 9.18am
Re the G Speirs article...
"Can anyone offer Rangers a cure for this ugly delinquency which afflicts a sizeable group of their supporters?"
Yes - Martin Bain - he has the answer - deny that they are Rangers supporters. Give the an another 24 hours and it will have been Celtic fans disguised as Rangers supporters.
Monthehoops @ 9.18am
Re the G Speirs article...
"Can anyone offer Rangers a cure for this ugly delinquency which afflicts a sizeable group of their supporters?"
Yes - Martin Bain - he has the answer - deny that they are Rangers supporters. Give the man another 24 hours and it will have been Celtic fans disguised as Rangers supporters.
(whats happened to the delete button?)
Like all i am empathetic to the peripheral goings on at the minute but another good piece from G Spears today posted here @ 9.18.
I was cringing in embarrasment for Bain last night when he went in front of the cameras stating that the trouble in Manchester was caused by 'people who do not usually attach themselves to the club'
If one thing comes from this I hope it is that people once and for all see that Gordon Strachan is a Celtic man. His tears at the press conference yesterday were our tears and I hope all fans can now get behind him and give his team 100% backing in the future.
Regarding rangers does anyone know if a European ban is a possibility?
savo01
Depends if UEFA get involved.
I'd prefer it if Bain, Murray et al pulled their finger out, admitted the Rangers support has a problem which, although a minority, is still a significant number to cause problems. I then hope they call on the majority of good Rangers fans to assist them in finding them and eliminating them.
It is an interesting situation, there is little doubt the hooligans were attached to the Rangers support, however there is no way of telling whether or not they ussually attach themselves to Rangers as Bain claims. If the 11 charged are Rangers season ticket holders Bain then has a problem
p.s. WGS = Celtic legend in the making. It is fair time we showed him the support he deserves.
p.s. WGS = Celtic legend in the making. It is fair time we showed him the support he deserves.
Posted my feelings very early doors yesterday after hearing the sad news of Tommy's death.I feel compelled to try and keep us focused this weekend though.
I still have a tear in my eye, for a man I never met, but feel as though I knew him so well, his devotion to all things Celtic and Scotland and the dignified manner in which he always displayed this to us all allows me to feel this way.
Let us not worry ourselves over the goings on in Manchester, this will take care of itself in its own way and time. We are in mourning for a much loved fellow Celt, probably the finest Celt of my lifetime.
Tommy has had the class to have bridged the great divide in Glasgow and the scenes of the Rangers fans at Celtic Park yesterday are part of a fitting tribute to a great man, a great Celt and a great Scot.
If Tommy's death helps us all to see that we can become too insular and introspective about all things Celtic and Rangers then I feel blessed to have experienced this effect.
Tommy was a good man, hate was not in his dictionary or actions, he loved people and I believe his faith made him the man he was.
if ever there was an example of "life being too short" then I feel the pain of Tommy, a family man who has been denied the joys of experiencing his children and grandchildren grow up and know what a wonderful man he was, but more importantly learn how to live their lives the Tommy Burns way.
he is the epitome of my username and I feel, as Mark McGhee suggests challenged by Tommy Burns to live up to that name, he was the one man who I feel could honestly call himself Faithful through and through.
so Tommy I dedicate all my future actions and endeavour to live up to my username, with the dignity and class that you always had
God Bless Tommy Burns
God Bless Rosemary and all the family
God Bless Celtic
God Bless all the Celtic family
I was in Piccadilly Gardens yesterday morning, the scene was unbelieveable. Manchester city council office staff were out suits etc trying to help.
Roads were covered, and I really mean covered, in broken glass.
Areas of the city centre were shut down in the morning, it really was truly awful, especially the smell of stale beer and other things.
Whilst standing with crowds of others just looking at the Gardens I got the text about Tommy. My blood ran cold, then I remembered the other text a few weeks ago.
I asked one reported who said he didn't know I then found someone from Reporting Scotland who had just been interviewing some of that mob. I asked him, he said it was true and must have assumed that I was a Rangers supporter being in Manchester with my accent - he took one look at my reaction and said 'oh, you're a Celtic man' and said he was too, and he was gutted. I've worked around journalists before and there are very few occassions where someone would let their guard drop and say who they supported.
Tommy was the first player I ever met and my first ever Celtic Supporters Club dance. Got my pic taken with him, which I have hunted high and low for, and just he's just been there...always.
Player, manager, coach ... he was just always there.
Don't want a debate about the rights or wrongs but he built a helluva side and I watched some great football then.
I also remember him coming on TV to be interviewed after we had been beaten 5-1 at Ibrox. He faced the cameras and supporters with absolute honesty.
After predicting carnage in Manchester, I am still disappointed at the level of trouble and damage but every time I see the pics of the Gardens it will remind me where I got that text.
I cannot see how Uefa could not get involved. A supporter was stabbed inside the stadium at their second prestigious cup final. I believe if the will is there Uefa have all they need to punish them, only time will tell.
I do have to admit that WGS has gone right up in my estimations. He may not be big of stature but yesterday I saw a big big man.
My wish for the year.
The Tommy Burns football academy and training complex Lennoxtown.
Forgot to add
Tommy Burns backed Gordon Strachan 100%
It's time we all did as well and united as one
Ceaser1967
Like you I welcomed another good, insightful piece from Mr Spiers.
I too watched the reports from Ibrox but did not cringe when the bumptious Mr Bain trotted out the usual empty rhetoric "Doing all we can", "helping the authorities" etc etc - Licence payers please note - our very own BBC SCOTLAND now carries the "infiltrators" message on their website.
There was however excellent reporting of the facts on both Scottish broadcast news channels last night but as the bold Spiersy points out Murray has employed expensive PR people to move the "agenda".It was the same 42 years ago in Spain, they'll blame anyone they can , apart from themselves.
They were ready with the old chestnut of "heavy handed policing" until Manchester's finest reacted by releasing the city-centre CCTV footage which told it's own story.
And this is the main point for me out of all this - R@@gers have never come out and said that the behaviour of a significant number of their fans is, in simple terms, "WRONG" - they've said that its "innapropriate", "damaging the club" etc etc, thev've highlighted how it will affect them via UEFA, financially, fines, bans, points dropped etc - but never grasped the thorn. In truth there is only so much any football club can do with supporters like these but R@@ngers need to do much more than a window dressing, flak-deflecting PR campaign and our news outlets shouldn't be allowed to aid and abet them either
I'll finish by taking this opportunity to to thank Paul67 for providing a fantastic forum.
Lazy journalists beware!
Bankiebhoy1
Plus ca change.
Zut alors! Get Moi! Meant to delete the "plus ca change" bit at the end there chaps, got a wee bit carried away.
Bankiebhoy1takingoffhispseudovarsityscarfandblazerapproachCSC
Watching the video on the club site has tipped me over the edge. This is so unfair. Decent tribute from Chick Young on BBC site. It has a classic Burns joke in it.
Bankiebhoy1,
Plus C'est La Meme Chose !!
Let's hope there are some footballers like Tommy Burns playing today, people who can be admired for their integrity of character as well as their skills and not for the obscene amounts of money they earn; their Armani suits; their tattoos; their unthinking lifestyles.
I read Chick's piece; without wishing to get sidetracked from the overarching sentiment, it did contain a frankly baffling reference to "a season plagued by Old Firm hatred".
Every fan attaches themselves to a football club. Anyone can support any football club.
What Rangers need to ask themselves is why a certain type of person attaches themself to their club and why that persons feels they can behave the way they did in Manchester.
Ex-Port Tim
Exactement mon frere!
laplumedematanteCSC
The violence in Manchester was completely unacceptable. Rangers response to date has been poor.
Violence asside, there are many people who can't differentiate between the Rangers support who attend the annual game against Linfield and those who misbehaved in Manchester....which kind of makes a mockery of Bains comments
On holiday abroad my wife (not a football fan)picked up my copy of Tommy's biography.
I never got it back until she finished it.
Her verdict "now that is a real man"
RIP
Export and Bankiebhoy
You two should aller outside and pull yourselves ensemble.
Another commendable article from The Times:
Rangers' hooligan problem biggest in Britain
Sport professor Alan Bairner claims that trouble was 'completely predictable' and that it is time to tackle the problem
Kevin Eason, Sports News Correspondent
Rangers fans rampaging through the streets of Manchester have betrayed the image of the Tartan Army as a peace-loving band of supporters applauded and loved throughout the football world. Professor Alan Bairner, of Loughborough University's School of Sport and Exercise Sciences, long ago picked out Rangers as having the biggest hooligan problem in the British game.
He issued warnings days before the Uefa Cup final at the City of Manchester Stadium that trouble was likely. He said yesterday: “It was completely predictable. The reputation of Rangers fans stretches back to the 1970s and is distinctly different from the Tartan Army.
“There has been a problem for a long time and perhaps the events in Manchester will now mean that something is done, because Rangers have the biggest problem in British football.”
The problems of sectarianism in Glasgow between the Protestant supporters of Rangers and the Catholic fans of Celtic have long been documented, but Bairner, himself a Scot, pointed out that Celtic took 100,000 fans to Seville in 2003 for their Uefa Cup final with barely a hint of trouble and the team was often welcomed to England to play in friendly matches. However, Rangers carry a distinctive and individual threat.
Bairner added: “This is not something that happens with the national team, nor does it happen with Celtic. It seems that where Rangers are, there is potential for trouble.”
monthehoops
Macjay
Touche!
Macjay, Bankiebhoy,
Jaime dinnaeken pas any mair :-)
Monthehoops
Well done.
That`s the article which tells it as we all know it is.
As others have said before,the term 'old firm' gets us eternally lumped in with them.
Time for a campaign to discard the term as offensive,starting at Celtic Park.
Macjay,Ex-port
Naeborra ataw.
StanleybaxterCSC
What did he expect with a name like that he was provoking them into violence.
What did he expect
Paul67,
Geeting a bit peeved of how certain people from the Laptop Loyal are trying to bring us into this shambloic sham created by their supporters.
Reading the Scottish Sun this morning while waiting on an appointment and I was absolutley disgusted by Bill Leckie's comments saying we are as bad as them and that we would have done the same in Seville if the TV broke.
I think this guy should be taking to task and asked to retract this statement. Something has got to be done by Laporta on this. The whole of brittish football reputation has been tarnised by Rangers.
For me the other night has finally shown the world what they are all about. The English media are not relenting on them. They want blood. Interesting to see Graham Spiers say that Rangers pleaded with the Scottish Media not to highlight this issue other night. Keep it low key.I see the Daily Record followed suit. Only problem David and Martin the whole of the world seen you and you forgot to buy their silence. Sorry i forgot you can't by professional journalists.
RANGERS FC = SCOTLAND & BRITTISH SHAME
bankie
Aw! so ye`ve raised us tae Parliamo Glasgow,izzit?
Might raise the ire of the peely wally tallies.
Enough,no more...`tis not so sweet now as twas...exit stage right
A standout comment from the BBC website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7403492.stm)
"It's going to take a powerful rain storm to get the layer of sticky filth off the streets!"
I take it that was said when viewing the "fans" prior to the game commencing??
Ulryc
Just heard an iterview on the radio with the policeman who fell during the attack by the hooligan's in Manchester.
He said he feared for his life and that the group were manic and baying for blood.
I think this will be one media cover-up too many for Bain and his croonies at Ipox!
The truth will soon be known to one and all.
GG
There is nothing I can add to the outpouring of grief that we are experiencing. After reading the tributes of Paul & Estadio, there is nothing I need to add. Thanks to both of you & to all the other posters who have shared their pain with us at this awful time.
I am not a person who readily sheds tears. At my age it is not very dignified. However, I am not ashamed to say that I wept like a child last night, as I took on board the sincere sense of abject loss that was being expressed by every single person who had known Tommy. Some of the tributes were from hard-nosed cynics, not given to exposing their feelings. Without exception their testimony, some of it emotional, was that the world had lost someone special.
Celtic men have always known what Tommy was, but it is gratifying to know that everybody in this sometimes blinkered country was aware of his unique qualities.
Requiescat In Pace, Tam.
Monthehoops - Excellent article, thanks for posting.
Glad to see that the term 'Old Firm' wasn't used anywhere. The line "This is not something that happens with the national team, nor does it happen with Celtic", is a welcome one. A long time coming.....
Bain's comments from earlier are beyond laughable
It was a melancholic journey up the M74 yesterday afternoon; my mood not being lifted by having to share the journey by so many of the Shame making their way back home, clearly stunned that Walter the Woolly Bully couldn't conjure up another triumph- clearly anti-football requires 12 people in the team to succeed, and when Mr Mccurry isn't the first name on the team sheet the Horribles are going to struggle.
Anyways, hats off to the Bhoys who put the 'Welcome home, losers'banner over the motorway near Beattock. At first I thought it might have been the work of Pablo but the spelling was too good.
I also wonder if the Teds who thought throwing beer at their Hunvee would get it started again ever made it home..
Paul, Estadio,
Fine words indeed.
Rt. Rev 9.58 - that's a great story. Just goes to show.
RIP Tommy Burns.
H
It would not be surprising if Uefa to swift and punitive action against Rangers for the violence of Wednesday night.
They have a Champions League Final coming up, closely followed by their European Championships.
They will not want either of these tournaments tainted by similar outbreaks of violence.
Any one who has observed the way UEFA work, will understand that its generally the smaller FA's clubs that they take the action against whilst turning a blind eye to problems of the major European FA's
The time has come for PL, DD AND JR to distance ourselves from the old firm tag. No more joint deals. We are big enough to get lucaritive deals on our own. They needs us more thn we need them.
Let's start and hurt them and cut of their cash flow by announcing seperate deals. We have the right people on the board to make fortunes they haven't.
The time has come.
WGS
That is a shocking statement from Leckie. If i remember a screen did break down. Though instead of bottling the guy who repaired it the fans cheered him on.
To justify that disgusting violence in any way is grossly irresponsible. He should be made to apologise.
From Times Online
May 15, 2008
This blight on Rangers
Graham Spiers
The chaotic post-match scenes at the Uefa Cup final in Manchester must be utterly galling for those thousands of Rangers fans who follow their team with pride and distinction, yet who must wonder how on earth their club is to be rid of the social poison at its core.
These recurring incidents of delinquent behaviour with Rangers fans on the road are becoming tedious as well as depressing for those of us who chronicle this football club's fortunes. It doesn't seem to matter what Rangers as a club try to do - and the Ibrox board have explored every conceivable road recently - they simply cannot gouge out the primitive element among their followers.
By sheer chance a colleague and I stumbled upon the clashes between Rangers fans and the riot-police around midnight in the centre of Manchester on Wednesday night. Earlier, in the media centre, we had received reports of a Zenit fan being stabbed, and of a number of Rangers supporters being apprehended over that incident, but what we found in the centre of town was something else entirely.
Three of us had gone back to a hotel to pick up some luggage and, one block away, the clashes between fans and the police were in full spate. We drove into a grid of wailing sirens. One Rangers supporter said to me: "It's like a war-zone down there. Some windows have been kicked in and there's fighting with the police." One colleague went off to pick up his bag and returned 10 minutes later, slightly shaken after having to pick his way around the chaos.
The experience earlier in the day in Manchester on Wednesday was also depressing. The blight of bigotry has haunted Rangers FC and, while the club has pleaded and pleaded with fans to stop singing their sectarian dirges, the evidence of Manchester city centre over that period suggested they have made little progress in winning this battle. A range of songs which bellow about "Fenian bastards" and "F*** the Pope" remain the routine chant of too many Rangers supporters. You couldn't walk 50 yards in Manchester city centre without being assaulted by one such chorus.
This is a sensitive subject for Rangers. The club has begged Scottish reporters and editors to play it all down, because it "harms the image" of Glasgow and Scotland. Rangers themselves have hired a PR agency over the last two years, asked to perform what is euphemistically called "damage limitation" when it comes to these repeated embarrassments for the club. The PR boys have a tough job.
As a club Rangers are very familiar now with having to issue declamatory statements in the aftermath of such scenes as Manchester. A recurring phrase - and it was used again by Rangers yesterday - is that it is "a small minority" which ruins it for the rest.
The problem for Rangers is, this isn't a small minority of fans at all, but a large minority of them which indulges in such drunken, or aggressive, or bigoted behaviour. It is an on-going blight upon a very proud and distinguished Scottish institution.
DBBIA said
"I also wonder if the Teds who thought throwing beer at their Hunvee would get it started again ever made it home" Thatch Evil used to say (especially of the NHS)that you don't solve problems by throwing money at them. Maybe this was a bizarre attempt to put that principle to the test in some way.. or maybe they ouldn't find a bush with which to give it a damn' good thrashing a la Basil Fawlty.
BTW, thanks for the text updates on Wednesday. However, I had left the mobile phone on charger upstairs and only saw the messages later when I had sampled the relief and delight (from the 89th minute)at first hand. How was Carla? Still pining? Tell I said it's not her, it's me!
Was following a couple of debates in youtube and the BBC and it seems that fans of other Scottish clubs and the national team are beginning to get a taste of what we have to put up with, of continually being lumped in with the Orcs as one and the same. A lot of very hacked off English people are having a go at Scots, although most are simply expressing their disgust in a rational manner.
I see Bain has also came out with the same old "they're nto our fans" chestnut. Just like it wasn't their fans at Feyenoord, Pittodrie, Bradford, Tranmere etc. etc.
"We've been informed that those scenes were caused by fans who don't normally attach themselves to our support" said Rangers chief executive Martin Bain.
"We have to identify anybody that was responsible for the acts of violence."
"We're extremely disappointed and we'll do everything we possibly can to help Manchester Police find out who those perpetrators are."
So.. if these people are unidentified, how do you know they aren't part of your support??
Of course this is patently rubbish anyway as mindless hooligan neo nazis tend to be consipicious by their absence when all other Scottish teams play in Europe.
Much is made of the big screen failure. Whilst that in itself is a woefully inadequate excuse anyway, how does this explain a Russian fan being stabbed inside the stadium? Brawling in pubs in the afternoon and the fact that the riots took place nearly an hour after the game
I also had to have a wry smile when I saw that BBC first reports on the web and teletext were referring to events as "UEFA CUP FANS CLASH WITH POLICE".
I was half expecting the following press release:
"A spokesman for the UEFA Cup expressed bewilderment at reports of "UEFA Cup fans" clashing the police. He said 'The UEFA Cup is an inanimate object and as such, does not have any fans to be clashing with police'.
The BBC now understands that it was a small minority of Old Firm fans who were responsible for the violence etc. blah blah.. etc."
The last thing Murray and Bain need right now are spin doctors...they need actions. That will speak louder than any concocted sentences filtered through our manipulated media. If they don't understand that, there is no hope for them or Rangers.
Last night's radio2 'Radcliffe and Maconie' show featured several jests on the usefulness[or otherwise] of trying to fix expensive electrical equipment by throwing beer at it. They made no mention of the violence but then they try to keep things lighthearted, in typical Lancastrian fashion.
Oh, and someone wants to inform the Shame that thousands of neds descending on the Northwest of England to get drunk and redecorate the place is not a major sporting milestone- it's a Glasgow Fair Saturday.
In a different league from Leckie's shameful remarks, but it's still hard not to bark with disgust....the Evening Times hoardings are running with the banner "Cop Saved By Gers Fans", which is one thing even if it misses a wider point, but the front page story says "Cop saved By Gers Fans From RIOTERS" (my capitals). I mean, come on here....this is party line journalism on a staggering scale....
Couldn't somebody have just given the big screen a dunt on its side and if that didn't work get somebody tall to stand holding the aerial above his head?
The destruction of the North West may have happened before but like the (failed) quadruple, it must still be regarded as unprecedented and historic.
Bill Leckie's claimed at 4.
On Joe and Keith on Spin Radio here in Ireland...Joe said that there was some glass on his table from the previous nites DJ and keith says "must have been those ranger supporters again"
Here's the full report from the policeman who was beaten -
Pc describes Uefa fan mob attack
Page last updated at 10:50 GMT, Friday, 16 May 2008 11:50 UK
Pc Mark Regan describes how one Rangers fan tried to help him
A police officer says he was lucky to escape serious injury after he was set upon by a mob of Rangers fans.
Pc Mick Regan was kicked, punched and stamped on when he slipped helping a colleague get away from bottle-hurling fans in Manchester city centre.
He said the scenes after Rangers' Uefa Cup final defeat were the worst he had witnessed in 23 years with the force.
The 47-year-old told the BBC he was saved by one Rangers fan who dragged him away from the mob.
The former Territorial Army soldier's ordeal was captured by police cameras following the violence which started after Wednesday's match.
Trouble first flared in Piccadilly Gardens after a technical fault with a big screen left up to 20,000 fans frustrated.
Riot police were sent in as violent clashes broke out along nearby Market Street, Oldham Street and Newton Street.
Pc Regan, from Offerton, Stockport, was on duty for public order and not riot control, but said he sensed the mood was darkening as he listened to the police radio on the way in to the city.
"From the outset we were bombarded with bottles and cans as we tried to contain and disperse the crowd," he said.
"It was unbelievable when we got there - it was already in motion. It was frightening, on a different scale from any other match I have worked in my 23-year career."
As the trouble wore on Pc Regan and a handful of colleagues found themselves being pushed down Newton Street by a mass of fans hurling bottles.
The officer said he got into trouble after being hit by a bottle from a distance of about 4ft which struck his elbow, then he found himself on the ground.
Pc Regan told BBC News: "The next thing I knew I was getting kicked in the body, on the legs.
"I was trying to get to my radio to activate my emergency button but I couldn't get to it so at that point I thought - 'I've got to get out of here, I'm in serious trouble here because these people are really going to try and hurt me,' so I managed to get up and run."
Asked if his attackers could have killed him, he replied: "I try not to think about that... I wouldn't say they were trying to kill me but I knew if they got me they'd have seriously injured me."
Pc Regan escaped with sore ribs and a puncture wound to his arm.
He said if it had not been for a Good Samaritan who pulled him away from the melee he would have been more seriously injured.
'Alcohol the problem'
"I saw two lads coming from my right; I thought they were going to have a go," he said.
"But one of them shouted at me saying, 'I'm British Army, I'm a medic'. He grabbed me by the collar and he propelled me up the street.
"If they had not come along at that point I'd have been in big trouble. I'd have been seriously injured. I knew I was going to get done over.
"I feel lucky; whoever that army lad was, he wants a medal."
But despite the widespread condemnation of the Rangers fans, Pc Regan said many of the supporters he came across were "as good as gold".
Pc Regan told the BBC he felt alcohol was the cause of the biggest problems, especially among the hardcore who caused the trouble.
"Those particular people were just out to cause harm to any police officer. It could have been me - it could have been anybody," he added
This has got to be the final nail in their coffin!
GG
Now, this is funny - 'Rangers Now The England of Scotland' http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/rangers-now-the-england-of-scotland-20080516956/
Have a read at the comments on the Manchester Evening News website, especially the "Battle of Piccadilly" link.
Many eye-witness accounts.
Sorry I can't do the linky thing.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
Leckie's hurting like hell!!!
He has to say that to protect his beloved Gers
He was a sh*t after Seville too
St Mirren fan my a**
Rangers have biggest violence track record of any club in Britain Celtic have won fair play awards
This is what yopu wont hear from him
Cad- Carla is very well [unlike Carlisle] and believes this piece of news only reinforces her position as premiere muse du CQN as she knows we love her for her mind,as much as her beauty.
Does anyone else think that the comments of Murdo Fraser should mean he resigns? All about informed decision making eh Murdo? The only problem is that you clearly bought the propoganda issued from the Death Star to put some dampeners on this story. Are you independent or has someone got you in their pocket?
I cannot believe this clown is paid from taxpayers money.
When the revolution comes, I'll be looking for you.
Just heard the report on Radio 1 again with the interview with policeman, which sounds more damming everytime I hear it.
But I was shocked when it ended with the reporter saying that
UEFA were NOT planning on taking any further action as they feel the fans behaved well!!!
Have they seen the footage?
Shurely shome mishtake?
Don't tell me that Murray has a mole in there as well!!
GG
Looks like the reports of UEFA not taking any action might be right -
Uefa powerless to act on riots
Page last updated at 11:08 GMT, Friday, 16 May 2008 12:08 UK
Uefa have confirmed they have received the match delegate's report on Wednesday's Uefa Cup Final.
BBC Scotland understands no action will be taken against Rangers as a result of rioting in the city centre.
"Our discliplinary procedures only apply for events which occur at the stadium or within the perimeter," confirmed spokesman William Gailliard.
The governing body will review the pitch invasion by Zenit supporters and stabbing of a Russian fan.
The latter, however, remains under investigation by authorities in Manchester and Uefa will await further information before deciding on whether to impose any sanctions on the Ibrox club.
Rangers' chief executive Martin Bain has already stated his belief that the violence was caused "by fans who don't normally attach themselves to our support."
And Stephen Smith of the Rangers Supporters' Trust said the fans' group hoped the club would act against those responsible, including the penalty of lifetime bans from Ibrox.
"It was a very small minority who were responsible and the vast majority were a credit to the club," he said.
"We would want any of those individuals who are identified to be receiving punitive sanctions from the club, and I am sure they will."
Although it is a "BBC Scotland understands" comment it was also reported on national radio as well so there might be something to this. Shocking if true though!!
GG
From the bbc.
Uefa have confirmed they have received the match delegate's report on Wednesday's Uefa Cup Final.
BBC Scotland understands no action will be taken against Rangers as a result of rioting in the city centre.
"Our discliplinary procedures only apply for events which occur at the stadium or within the perimeter," confirmed spokesman William Gailliard.
The governing body will review the pitch invasion by Zenit supporters and stabbing of a Russian fan.
The latter, however, remains under investigation by authorities in Manchester and Uefa will await further information before deciding on whether to impose any sanctions on the Ibrox club.
Rangers' chief executive Martin Bain has already stated his belief that the violence was caused "by fans who don't normally attach themselves to our support."
And Stephen Smith of the Rangers Supporters' Trust said the fans' group hoped the club would act against those responsible, including the penalty of lifetime bans from Ibrox.
"It was a very small minority who were responsible and the vast majority were a credit to the club," he said.
"We would want any of those individuals who are identified to be receiving punitive sanctions from the club, and I am sure they will."
Interesting article on the decline of the Scottish Media
does it surprise any of us that the laptop loyal are scurrying about trying to deflect blame from themselves and drag celtic into the myre?
the damage is done, the international press have delivered their story, the world has made up it's mind on what it thinks of rangers, and have turned thrier attention to other things.
the laptop loyal can spin what they want in this bigotted land, but nobody is listening any more .
Just back from the stadium and some great tributes outside from a wide range of fans. Our chairman was mingling with the fans and was thanking people for showing their respect. I think this shows the human side of how our club is run. With WGS at the helm and SSM we are in good hands.
Can we lay off Rankers at this time. Now is not the time. Let the authorities deal with it.
I never had the pleasure of speaking to Tommy Burns although I saw him many times. I now deeply regret never even saying hello - I realise the least I would have got back would have been an acknowledgement and that infamous big smile..
However, I feel like I knew this wonderful man well and as if I have lost a very dear friend.
I spent much of yesterday and a lot of this morning in tears reading CQN and various press articles. I don;t think I have ever read of a man who was held in such high esteem by so many.
Is that a surprise ? I don;t think so.
I think of every interview I saw him give - Delighted but humble in victory. Dignified but hurting deeply in defeat.
When people called for the head of Berti Vogts, who supported him ? Tommy
When people questioned Gordon Strachan, who defended him? Tommy.
He was a superb athlete.
He was courageous (right to the end)
We was a man of integrity
He was a man of faith.
He was a man of passion.
He was a very caring man.
He was a family man
He was a trustworthy man
He was a comedian.
He was a singer.
He was (to us all) an inspiration
He believed in playing the game the Celtic way and put this into practice.
But most importantly, he did the hardest thing that there is to do as a modern human being in this world -He put others before himself.
Has there ever been another man of whom we can speak so highly? I don't think so.
Men like this do not deserve to have their lives cut so short. They should live forever and Tommy Burns will do so foverer in our memories and in our hearts.
My wife recently lost her father and I've seen how deeply this has affected her and her mother. I can only offer my prayers for Rosemary and the rest of the family
Rest in peace Tommy.
I have received a reply from the Scottish "Government" about an email I sent to them regarding Rangers racism.
What do you think she means by "campaign"?
Mr bazzabhoy
Your initial email was part of a large campaign which we have been
trying hard to respond to appropriately. In this case it was felt a
standard reply which set out our policies was the best way we could
manage this.
I will do my best to respond to your further response as quickly as I
can,
Yours sincerely
government lackey
Equality Unit Division
Public Health and Wellbeing Directorate
My further response was as follows (I am sure you have all seen the standard reply email):
Hi Kelly,
Thank you for the reply, however I am aware that this is just the standard reply that is being sent out as I have seen the same email on various websites.
You state that racism at football is a matter for the SFA. You are implying that any improper behaviour at the football is only a matter for the SFA.
This in turn implies that I can behave as I like, be racist, attack someone, set fire to the toilets in the stadium and that this will only be a matter for the SFA.
This is blatantly not true.
Racism in this country is against the law, regardless were it takes place. If I where to be racist in a Pizza Hut, I would be arrested (and rightly so) the police and our (seemily mickey mouse) Governemt would not say that this was a matter for Whitbread! (owners of Pizza Hut)
I am unsure as to why the establishment in this blighted country of ours is scared to tackle this issue properly and actually take some action against Rangers Football Club, a la UEFA. I would like to think that our Government hangs its head in shame that it took an external body to finally do something about this. It was refreshing to hear UEFA censure Rangers Football Club, without doing the usual Scottish cop out of saying that both sides are as bad as each other, ie Celtic, which is blatantly untrue as recent events have highlighted.
I have received an email from Kick Racism Out of Football, who agree an element of the Rangers Support are racist and they are currently talking with Rangers Football Club about this. Why then, is MY governement afraid to tackle this issue?
Please could this email be replied to with the questions and concerns raised being answered, rather than a bog standard email being sent to me.
I look forward to your response.
maleys bhoy, fair comment.
Dubtim - can you remember when we met Tommy Burn in Barca? Mind he was trying to get up the road with his shopping before someone spied him! He must have had to pose for about a hundred photos.
He stayed and got his picture taken with everyone of one us.
Estadio, I read your post last night. How to make a grown man cry (as if he needed any help at this time). Well written from the heart.
Payed my respects last night at Paradise. Never before have I felt so emotional outwith an immediate death in the family or close friends.
Tommy Burns, in life you were an example to us all, a saint amongst men and I'm sure a very welcome addition to the gods in death.
In my time as a Celtic supporter I have been lucky enough to have seen Tommy as a player scoring so many outstanding goals. I am a better man for having seen you play & manage, smile, cheer , and laugh with all us Celtic fans. The Celtic team/s under you management provided me with the best entertainment I have and am ever likely to witness from a Celtic team. I think the biggest compliment for your style of football was provided by Big Yogi Hughes last night on Celtic T.V. phone-in when he said his current team Falkirk is based solely on the management style and playing style he picked up from you in his 1 year at Celtic park. And that he would drop your name and the Celtic team you managed into team talks, the last being about 6 weeks ago. Thankyou for that Yogi.
Tommy you have a special place in my heart.
R.I.P Tommy Burns and my condolences to your family and close friends and all those who knew you personally.
Thanyou for the memories.
DannyBhoy
Well done Bazzabhoy, this is a time for stories about this great man.
I like Andy Walker's comment on Clyde last night.
Everyone has rightly been waxing lyrical about how Tommy was great at lifting people when they were down, encouraging people etc..
Well, Andy had just missed a sitter at a packed Celtic Park and Tommy came up to him. Andy expected some words of wisdom and encouragement from the great man but instead Tommoy quipped "you are probably the worst player I have ever seen wearing the hoops"
A minor point, I know, but the Herald obituary has Tommy down as being a pupil at St Mungo's Academy. Being the same age as Tommy and also being a Mungo bhoy myself I certainly wasn't aware of this. Can anyone shed any light?
God bless Tommy Burns
reply from the bbc
BBC Complaints [T20080514014JS010Z3581522]
From: info@bbc.co.uk
Sent: 16 May 2008 07:52:06
To: stephen
This is an update to let you know that we are dealing with your recent complaint but are waiting to clarify some points with other colleagues in the BBC before we reply more fully to you. We will of course respond as soon as possible but trust you will understand that the time taken can also depend on the nature and number of the other complaints we are currently investigating. We would like to reassure you that your complaint has already been logged and circulated in our daily report to BBC managers. We would therefore be grateful if you would not reply to this email and, in the meantime, would like to thank you for contacting the BBC with details of your concerns. Regards Andrew MilliganBBC Complaints_________________________
{reporting scotland>{Transmission Date:}13 - 05 - 08>>{Comments:}>dear sir/madam>>I am absolutely outraged at the segment on bbc reporting Scotland, with the showing and laughing of the rangers fans doing the "bouncy bouncy"aided and abetted by the bbc team in Manchester for the uefa cup final>My outrage concerning this so called song and dance originates from the death of a young catholic man in belfast ,being beaten to death ,and having his head jumped on ,hence the bouncy bouncy which this chant replicates,I cannot emphazise my utter disgust at this being broadcast,as any right minded individual would be so>to broadcast a song and dance ,gloryfying a horrific death is totally repugnant and repulsive,why did the bbc team show this?as it is well known in scotland what the "bouncy bouncy" means>an unreserved apology is the least that can be made ,even just for this young mans family as well as the right minded thinking scottish population>> yours in disgust >> Stephen>>
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I hope Rintintin has had his shots
DBBIA
Love the advert alongside it - made me laugh
to explain the advert went along the lines
if you love animals, set them free
I agree with Savo01 at 10:11, WGS yesterday showed how important the Celtic family is to all of us and that he is a part of it. You may not agree with all his decisions or tactics, but it is time for all of us to get fully behind him. We should be proud of our club and unite whether it be the good times or the bad.
Leave the others to fight amongst themselves!
McManus69 @ 1.10pm
I'm just back from the glorious arena as well and was about to post exactly what you did.
Thought Dr Reid done very well thanking everyone for coming in person.
The shrine is a fitting tribute to tommy.
Come on the hoops!
GretnaBhoy
well said, WGS has shown he is one of us and it is time for us all to ensure he knows that he is one of us.
if he's good enough for Tommy Burns, he's good enough for me (he was anyway, since I am more of a happyclapper type)
i am currently looking at a picture of him in today's sun and the tears he is weeping for Tommy say it all
Hail! Hail!
When horses win the Grand National they're usually seen the next day getting stuck into treats sent by grateful punters- polo mints, apples, tins of Guinness,Empire biscuits.
We should all chip in to provide that brave wee dug[ and his four-legged pals ] with a five star canine feast to show our appreciation for the great job he's done this week.
Still feel terrible for Tommy's friends and family.
A true Celt who is one of the first great Celtic players I can remember from the start of their career to the tragic end.
I am 42 and TB was that player who lived my dream when I watched fron the terracing. We won't see many like TB again.
Winning the League would be a great tribute, but I wouldn't care if we gave Dundee Utd the points. Perspective has hit hard.
There is a lovely short video of Tommy on the official site. Check it out guys n girls.
Paul 67 & Estadio,
Absolutely outstanding!
The Hoopdog.
Se7en. Thanks for the tip. You've got me greetin again...
RFC pr machine in overdrive.
David Murray (Moonbeamer):
“The actions of a small minority who were involved in the disturbances…”
Stephen Smith (Rangers Supporters’ Trust):
“It was a very small minority who were responsible…”
Alex Salmond (First Minister):
“The behaviour of a small minority of fans was completely unacceptable.”
Oh, just a small minority? Now let’s hear then from someone who was in the thick of it.
Pc Mick Regan (the police officer seen on Cctv being kicked, punched and stamped on by a gang of thugs):
“I know that they will say it’s a minority - but a few thousand is a big minority.”
Sorry for posting about anything other than TB at this sad time.
I am just wondering if anyone knows for certain whether celtic are set to compete in the Rotterdam tournament due to take place from the 1-3 August?
Re Rintintin's (photo)shots
It just goes to show that it is really a dog eat dog world
Apologies if it's been posted before but this link should take you to the Book of Tributes on the Official Site.
DBBIA
Poor RinTimTim had to be put down today after developing rabies from biting this wild animal.
By Lennondinho18 on May 16, 2008 10:42 AM
Forgot to add
Tommy Burns backed Gordon Strachan 100%
It's time we all did as well and united as one
I'll second that motion.
GS and Tommy Burns had so much in common.
They valued their families, they loved football and they used humour every day to help them cope with the absurdities and contradictions of life.
It's also clear that they had a love of Celtic FC in common.
I don't honestly think that the fans who won't support GS really and truly understand what he has achieved since he took over from MON.
He took the job with instructions to reduce the wage bill by about 50%, and make Celtic just as much a selling as a buying club. In other words, buying players that would retain some value if and when they moved on. Oh and by the way he would have been told...We want success on the field as well.
He has achieved both those targets comfortably. He and the board were aware of the new football economic reality.
He has not had everything his own way and has had some misjudgements both tactically and in signing players. So What!
Big Jock and MON were also human and made mistakes too.
Nothing would please Tommy Burns more than to see all Celtic fans get behind the club, the team and especially the manager.
We really are faithfull through and through.
Reading baldy bains retort to the rotten mob riot,
big boys done it and ran away.
DBBIA - Yup, poisonous yuk.
Still getting to bite my teeth into that lump of larkhall lard was worth it.
I cannot come to terms with the thought of that brave wee dug being put down. He[ or she?] needs a big plate of Steak and a medal.
We must ask him up to do the Paradise Windfall, ideally the next time we are 'hosting' the Shame.
If there are any protests the Police in Manchester can simply say the 'victim' was mistaken for a Winalot journalist; an understandable error given his attire and behaviour.
for those who dont get celtic tv
mark mcghee last night said that his last contact with
TB was a few weeks ago when gretna V celtic was at fir park.
he came into his office and there was a note had been pushed under
his door.
it read along the lines
"every time i put on the tele your big fat ugly face is on it"
tommy
priceless
Yes, canamalar,
I forgot to add this one:
Martin Bain (Asst. Moonbeamer):
"A small minority soured what was a great carnival atmosphere..."
Murdo Fraser (Scottish Tory deputy leader) now has it down to a "tiny minority".
Only a couple more days till they'll be able to start claiming that it never happened.
Narrowboat 2.44
There's a version of that photo doing the rounds with the caption : Nakamura's Dog Ate My Hun
bankiebhoy1, you’re welcome.
WGS, some would blame The Sun for those comments, some would blame the READERS OF THE SUN…
Hazybhoy, cheers.
Wee Tim Malloy, deleted, language violation.
The Hoopdog, thanks.
Looks like Motherwell are really going to be up against it tomorrow...Bob Malcolm is suspended...
SouthLondonTim
brilliant
DBBIA
I think RinTimTim was aiming for something higher than the hun's calf, the handler holding the leash should of cut him some slack.
Great news, стахановец.
стахановец
Thank God for some good news.
I had been wondering how Mc.Ghee would deal with the BM factor.
KTF are keeping a good update on the Latest Shame and Rangers' hand wringing evasion of the truth.
The article suggests that they should acknowledge their past sins, so that they can look forward to a healthier national environment.
I have long maintained that they should publicly apologise for the 100 odd years of misery they visited upon the country and denounce and renounce all perpetrators of the evil.
Of course, that is a step too far for even the more "decent" members of their following.
Stakahnovitch,
It's reported elsewhere that Bob "FTP" Malcolm was seen staggering around Manchester, urinating in the street before the match. Usual pre match routine I would have thought.
The latest CQN clique wait patiently for Doggity Growlers to open..
Haven’t posted much over the past couple of days as I tried to come to terms with the sad news about Tommy and reflect why the passing of a man I didn’t know was able to bring out so many sad emotions in me.
I remember hearing the news when Bobby Murdock and Jinky Johnstone died and feeling sad but having not seen them play it was a more distant sadness.
I was very young when Tommy was playing and don’t remember him as a player at all but remember with happiness the news that he was coming back to manage the club in 1994. I remember the early 90s under Liam Brady and Lou Macari and then the almost destruction of the club. When Fergus came I was filled with optimism for the future, and then the news that Tommy Burns was going to be manager made me happy for reasons I wasn’t entirely sure. I read the papers that he was a former player and as he was still young and still playing (I think) at Kilmarnock I just knew that he would be great for the team I supported.
I thoroughly enjoyed those years as a Celtic fan despite the fact that the league wasn’t won but I knew he had built us back up and that we would be champions again very soon. I got a video of Tommy burns from my dad and watched it 2 or 3 times and even then was struck by what a wonderful person he was. On the video are clips of him going to mass and at that time, mass wasn’t very cool for a 15 year old boy but after seeing how deeply religious Tommy was, I decided to go back to Mass regularly.
The semi-final defeat to Falkirk in 1997 was hard to take but the news that tommy Burns was going to be sacked was particularly disappointing. To me he was “My Manager” and he should stay as manager forever.
My disappointment eased when we won the league the following season and when Wim Jansen left I desperately wanted Tommy Burns to come back even though in my heart I knew he never would.
I was very pleased when he came back as head of Youth Development and then 1st Team Coach. That was one of the things that really impressed me about Tommy was his ego, or lack of it. As manager of Celtic he was the top man but he didn’t mind coming back and working behind the scenes getting very little platitudes.
When the news broke yesterday I was devastated and did very little work as I read CQN and enjoyed the flowing tributes and wonderful pictures coming through. The breaking point for me was Gordon Strachan’s interview. He spoke from the heart and said what most people were feeling. When I saw him talk and could see the emotion in his face I just cried. I feel the same happiness now that Gordon is our manager as I felt back in the 1990s when Tommy was manager. Gordon may not win everything but he gives his all for this club.
I hope you don’t mind indulging my ramblings but just wanted to share my thoughts with you all.
Rest in Peace Tommy,
Love
Mort
Things have become clearer, more defined, more realistic if it were possible
Our collective will, with the unimaginable weight of Tommy Burns to push it forward
Our one game is now his one game
In the immediacy and the hurt of his passing comes the galvanising moment
Our meridian was not December, nor Artmedia nor Black Sunday
Our birth, death and re-birth is apparent every single day
It is faith and doubt
It is ebb and flow
It is every single one of our voices joined together - in communion
His one game is now upon us
The moment is entabled
Our collective will is travelling there
For Tommy Burns
Because of Tommy Burns
Even worse news guy...he got the suspension for the booking picked up against US!
Rewriting modern history is rubbish.
Chris
ref the murdo fraser comments
this man has a history of being a rangers apologist. i was asked fairly recently to consider contributing to the Tories. The assumption being that anyone who employs a lot of people will be sympathetic to their cause.
i delivered my usual homily about having a built in distrust of all politicians, and my well worn phrase that most of them are unemployable in the real world.
I took the opportunity to add that even if i put aside my views i wouldn't consider supporting a party which had a sectarian apologist in a senior position,
the response i got was interesting as i didnt name the individual
"yes, i understand. Murdo Fraser is a problem for us when it comes to garnering support across all spectrums"
says it all really
DBBIA
A fine picture of a team of Hunskelpers or should that be Hunbiters
Mort:
That was superb, you put in writing exactly what I am feeling, I was only 15 when TB became manager and I felt exactly as you did.
Steven Purcell has written a pathetic apology to the Manchester Evening News. Equivocation writ large. No attempt to address the real problem. I wrote in to try and give a proper picture of what happned but it got lost in cyberspace.
In Their Ain Midden
From Wednesday evening.
Are you watching Gordon Smith ?
y SubterraneanAuthor Profile Page on May 16, 2008 4:00 PM
Joan Burnie is looking well for her age.
Canamalr @3:19
Are you reading over my shoulder ???
I had this post written but never hit as i got called to a meeting.
Baldy Bain and the Mint are full of BIG boys did it and ran away
what they don't say is that at the start of the season they got into bed with the big Boys when they invited Chelski up for pre season "friendly" They put out the invitation to the Blues brothers
but now they wish they hadn't
I claimed Bill Leckie at 4. It's quarter past 4 and he's naw turned up. Hey Leckie, your tea's still oot ya bampot.
notagreatfighterbutitakefitsCSC
jc2,
would mintys private jet be the chocolat aeroplane ??
Noel,
They haven't learned and they never will.However, it was only a small minority that were singing.
The rest couldn't find the key they were "singing" in.
And Baldy Bain certainly likes the " went to Spain" Look
thomthethim
Joan Burnie maybe old but she is the only one in today's Daily Rankers that condemn what happen, with headlines like "UEFA Cup Final riot: I was beaten by cops, says soldier" or "UEFA Cup Final riot: The police lost control" Sur Dodgy Dave's PR machine went into full speed of spinning disinformation.
Shame Of Rangers' Rampage
May 16 2008 Joan Burnie
I HOPE First Minister Alec Salmond congratulated the Rangers fans for bringing independence closer.
Having seen them on the box in Manchester, why, for all their patriotic red, white and blue, would any sensible English person want to be associated with them.
It was a shameful, ignorant, arrogant display. Except I'm forgetting, silly me, it's all the police's fault.
So they were the ones singing the sectarian songs on TV were they?
They urinated on the streets? They chucked bottles without caring who got hit? Don't tell me it was only a few. Perhaps. But why is there ALWAYS a few?
I know even as I thump this out in hot rage, even as the box shows the squalor they left behind, that emails will pile in telling me they all behaved like kids on a Sunday School picnic.
If Manchester failed, it was because they didn't stick to their original plan and discourage those without a ticket from travelling.
How can anyone cope with such numbers, not when so many drank their way to the city.
Obviously on-street boozing should have been banned. Because as per, it's our inability to enjoy any event without getting fully cut that contributed to the problem.
But it doesn't excuse what happened.
This is not just a diatribe against Rangers. It's against all those fans who don't have lives. Their stunted emotions are poured into their club. Nothing. Else. Matters.
What happens in the rest of the world passes them by.
Forget Burma or China. All that counts is the game and to hell with anything else.
God help anyone who thinks differently. And God help us until we DO think differently.
She maybe old but she hasn't lost her falcuties like some of the Laptop Loyal
Somebody else claims Bill Leckie only to be told he'll have to take a ticket..
Still can't get my head around that Tommy is gone.
His legacy will be Lennoxtown and the idea of naming the complex after him is a great one for which I hope all fans and the club endorse.
Hopefully will get up at the ground tonight to pay my personal respects to one that I adored so much as a manager - Missed him as a player due to age but volumes speak when you see grown men cry whilst they remember.
Unfortunately for me I've been too late in booking my tickets for the Phil O'Donnell tribute match - If anyone is out there who cannot go - Please can you contact me - I'm gutted I've left it too late.
God Bless Tommy Burns - MR.CELTIC
Hail, hail
Narrowbhoat and thomthetim
The reason Joan Burnie wrote that is because she can. She won't be told what to write but apologists for Rangers. And to be fair to her, she is pretty consistent in her admission that she doesn't like or get football, or the overriding hold his has over teh Scottish male psyche.
But it seems that apologists for the Chuckle Brothers of Ibrox
did downplay the role that people wearing Rangers shirts played in the rioting.
Let's face it, most of us thought that something like that would happen...and hundreds of Rangers fans didn't fail to live up to that expectation.
STANDING UP
Paul67,
WGS@ 12.21PM.
What do you think? A possibility?
Paul67,
WGS@ 12.21PM.
What do you think? A possibility?
Sorry, should read 'BY apologists for Rangers'
As a nation we are having to deal with a tarnished reputation. We are dealing with the fact that people will generalize.
They will have watched the events of Wednesday night unfold and thought to themselves 'those Scots are yobs'.
Its the world we live in, Rangers fans will be forever tarnished even though their real supporters were impeccably behaved.
More importantly Scotland fans will be forever tarnished just because they are Scottish.
The behavior of those knuckle dragging f*cks on Wednesday night will set us back years.
You would think it would be important for the Scottish media to make a point of separating the good from the bad. Print it in big f*ck off writing.
WE ARE NOT LIKE THEM, THE GOOD FAR OUTWAYS THE BAD, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME BACK IN OUR COUNTRY.
This is what you would expect and that is what we got from some half decent rags.
Then you sell your soul and decide to read the Scottish Sun, your curious about what the 'establishment' are saying about the horrific riots.
Up steps Bill Leckie.
He condemned the bad, felt sorry for the good, stuck up for Rangers fans in general, not to different from what we have read over the past couple of days.
He then takes things to a whole new low. He decides to bring Celtic into it, he compares the behavior of the Celtic support to that of the Rangers fans on Wednesday.
He tells us the only reason there wasn't any trouble in Seville is because the police had it under control. According to Leckie he heard the bigotry, saw the sick in the streets and he heard the smashing of bottles as Celtic fans invaded Seville.
How dare you! in an article condemning mindless thugs and bigots you have decided to blacken the name of Celtic fans who have nothing to do with Rangers.
Why on earth would you even mention this unless you are hurting at the abuse ' your ' Rangers are getting.
Why have you compared Celtic fans behavior to these supporters you claim are not true Rangers supporters. This smacks of bitterness.
You say the police has it under control in Seville. That's strange because the fanzones I was in had NO police presence, also there wasn't many toilets and you had to queue for an hour just to get a ticket for a beer.
We stood shoulder to shoulder in 90 odd degree heat. we watched our team cheated out of a European final, and many of us knew that night we would have to sleep on the streets.
We drank, a lot, we sang, we danced, we cried, we got burnt, we went home.
You insinuate that Celtic fans did not deserve all their good praise, well I say that you are just like the idiots who shamed Scotland on Wednesday night. You cant stand Rangers getting bad press so you have to bring Celtic into it.
Just like you Rangers fans cant enjoy themselves, they cant win or lose without finding some way to abuse Celtic fans. I even heard people today claiming it was Celtic fans who started the trouble on Wednesday.
You are hurting at the abuse Rangers fans are getting so you decide to tar us with the same brush. Its so sad.
I cant get my head round why you would find it necessary to say such a thing, is it to make Rangers fans feel better?
Mr Leckie you are a talented writer, its just a shame you use those talents to get peoples backs up rather than using them to tell the truth.
You dont have an ounce of integrity.
Get it right roon ye wee perma tan spiky haired midget.
Wheres RinTimTim when you need him
FIAGOTTPF
Thanks for posting the link to the Daily Mash. I had never seen it before. Pretty funny stuff.There used to be (maybe still is) a similar site called the Daily Wreckered which was also good for a laugh.
BTW some wummin (wearing her husband's socks and wi her curlers in) has just come up to me and the guy haudin ma coat and told me to lae aff her wee boy Billy (Billy boy). Looks like lackey licker Leckie lacks (something beginning with "L" that means bottle..and has a "K" in it)
almostalliterationCSC
Narrowboat... inkybhoy,
My reference to Ms. Burnie was based purely on the fact that she is the only female journo that I can recall on the DR, apart from the shrewish, Ruth Wishart from earlier years.
I left Glasgow many years ago and I don't buy the DR. However, I do recall JB's total abhorrence of the beautiful game and it's followers, therefore her comments, while valid and true, smack of one who enjoys putting the boot into football at every opportunity.
Bain is becoming more ludicrous by the day and I'm not sure if the distraction of Tommy Burns' death is helping them at this point.
Well,a sad end for Smith and McCoist,for where can they take them now?
Even if they do scrape the league with a few dodgy decisions it must be the beginning of the end,as that style of football has hit a dead end.
Smiths face said it all when the first goal went in the other night, he looked like a man lost at sea,without a clue what to do.Bad refereeing in Scotland does them no favours,nor Scottish football for that matter.
But win or lose the league I reckon it won't be long before there's a change of management in Mordor.
I see there's a 'Celts in Seville' play coming soon. Wonder if there'll be a 'Huns in Manchester' production ?
Just what CQN needs- just as peace breaks out between the Mineshafters and the Happyclappers we've to decide if we're Burnies or Brunis..
Sad, sad news about Tommy Burns - great tribute Paul, Estadio's eloquence putting into words many of our thoughts – R.I.P. Tommy a very special and generous man and a great Celt!
DBBIA
As much as I have respect for La Burnie, Carla is a lot more pleasing on the eye.
Let's not get out of hand ...
STANDING UP....insert your own inappropriate gag
I'm a Bruni..... Bruni is better looking than Burney and the whole of the Nesbitt family
Anybody got a pic of Carla in a Carmyle Cardigan?
Just surfing on the web and I just found out that Jeff Torrington, author of 'Swing Hammer Swing! died on the 11 May. His book 'Swing Hammer Swing! was set in the Gorbals (where he was born) in the late sixties. I recommend the book quite funny. Theres a scene in the book where the main person goes for a job he doesn't want to get, he knows the man hiring is a member of the lodge so he buys a crucifix and wears it to the job interview and doesn't get it. Later that night he forgets he got the crucifix in his pocket and he accidently finds himself in a flat belonging to a villian who has a statute of King Billy on a horse on his mantel piece, he is force to empty his pockets and it is not till he was pulling his hand out of his pocket he realises he still has the crucifix.
The book is a good snapshot of the Gorbals when they were starting to tear it down. It is a touch surreal but very funny.
Sir Paul
The Tommy Burns tragedy,has turned out to be the Mother of All Face Savers,for our beleaguered rivals.
A Perfect... 'Wag the Dog' scenario.
If any proof was needed to corroborate the Belief, that the Devil looks after his own...
Gentlemen, I rest my case!
Kojo.
bhoy4life.com,
I disagree, he is not a talanted writer which is why he is where he is, and it is the pinacle of his career.
However, I loved your parting shot.
thomthetim,
there is no doubt this tragedy is helping them, but I believe even this will change over the next few days when their "minority" again reverts to type and their so called humour is directed at this tragedy, and mark my words they will.
DontB,
Bad luck in the play-offs 90minutes goals against in each leg - tough going!
Confession - was drinking champagne with Leeds fans last night they wanted me to buy a bottle - I said I would when they won anything!
new article posted.
Apologies if I missed an earlier comment or question, I've been out today.
Hi ghuys and ghals -
been reminiscing about TB all day and thought of something quite apt. If memory serves the stage production of The Celtic Story by the Davids, MacLennan and Anderson, featured The O'Byrne family who morphed into The Burns Family.
I wonder if the Davids had TB in mind.
Happy memories.
WG
TNT, I didn't know he had died. I think I remember reading the book around the same time as James Kelman's "How Late it was, how late" (so I kind of linked them)but also think I remember that Swing Hammer Swing had taken him many years to write. I loved that book but could never find anything else by him. Do you know if he ever wrote anything else?
canamalar
I can't but agree with you as to their returning to type within a few days.
Their first point of reference may be whether a mark of respect will be appropriate at Fir Park tomorrow, due to Tommy's association with the SFA.
On a more positive note. It is heart warming to gauge the reaction to Gordon Strachan's moving tribute to his friend.
I hope that anyone who has any lingering doubts as to GS' affection and understanding of what Celtic is about, has those doubts vanquished.
An immediate benefit would be for all the support to get behind a man who is giving everything he has to his job, without seeking faux popularity.
I'm positive the club is on the up and up and all this season's evil manifestations against us is due to a realisation of this from those outside of Celtic Park.
Paul 67, Estadio and the rest - thanks for putting into words what so many of us are feeling just now. I've not posted much lately and I've been too emotional to lurk since I heard the news, but you need to be among friends at times like these and the blog has really come into its own just now. Thanks to all.
Tommy Burns - a wonderful human being and a great Celt. Hail Hail Tommy - we'll miss you but we'll never forget you.
As a mark of respect to tommy it has been proposed that a Holy Rosary be said by the fans outside Celtic Park this Sunday evening at 7.30pm, Tommy was a deeply religous man and it is a fitting tribute from those who hold the same beliefs as Tommy.
This is for the fans arranged by the fans.
As of this time Celtic have not been contacted but there shouldn't be any problem with this.
As a large crowd is expected it would be better if those coming by car could park in the industrial estate or the bus park leaving the club car park free.
This is being posted on as many Celtic boards as possible just now the HB and CM have been taken care of, if you post on any other could you put the message there please.
RIP Tommy Burns
I will not be able to answer any questions, if there are any changes i will get the info posted.
All credit to Danny from the Celtic Supporters Club for this idea.
A wonderful piece by Estadio on Tommy - beautiful, sensitive writing. I also have many wonderful memories of Tommy mainly as a Player. I remember Tommy playing in a League Cup Final against Rangers. Some of you may remember it, McCoist scored a hat trick in a 3-1 victory for TFOD. I vividly remember Tommy making some brilliant runs down the left side with the ball tied to the laces of his left boot. What the press fail to remind us of is that SuperSwally scored two penalty kicks as part of his hat trick. It was a disgrace. The true star of that game was Tommy Burns. I can remember that on Snyde many Rangers supporters were interviewed during the match build-up. When asked who they thought the main threat was from Celtic, to a man the answered 'Tommy Burns'.
Another great memory of Tommy was our 5-0 victory against Sporting Lisbon after a 2-0 defeat in Portugal. Tommy was simply outstanding and threaded a number of precision passes through the Sporting defence for our forwards to score.
In my mind's eye I can still see Tommy in a midweek victory at Celtic Park against Rangers when he got the ball in front of the Main Stand ( I think we won 3-1). It seemed as if Tommy stood almost still for about 5 minutes - it was probably only about 30 seconds in reality but he was surrounded by 3 or 4 Rangers players and it was plain to see that nobody wanted to challenge him in case he humiliated them- the Celtic fans were on their feet roaring as if a goal had been scored.
However, my abiding memory of Tommy ( it is shared by my mates also) came in a game at Ibrox. The final day of the 81-82 season, I think. Three teams could win the League, Dundee Utd., Aberdeen and Celtic. Four of us turned up at Ibrox for the game. Rangers were so good in those days that not only did the Tims have the Broomloan Stand, but also a third of the Govan Stand and a third nogf the Main Stand. There were a hell of a lot of us. Our tickets were for the Govan Stand. We arrived in anticipation only to find that there were already 4 guys in our seats who were not prepared to give them up. This led to a great deal of posturing and almost fisticuffs but we all squeezed in eventually, 2 on each seat. The reason for this was that Strathclyde's Finest decided to create a No Man's Land but tossed the Celtic Fans out of their seats to do so. There was nothing in the media about The Huns selling tickets for every seat in the Stand. Any way it was Nicholas's last game for Celtic before going to Arsenal. We were all over them but the two most fluky goals I have ever seen ( one of them hit off Sandy Clark's a*se and landed in the net) saw the Huns lead 2-0 at half time. Enter Tommy Burns! The Celtic team came out for the second half about 5 minutes before the Huns and officials. Tommy walked around every memeber of the Celtic team punching his fist into the palm of his other hand and speaking really closely into their faces. The Celtic support responded to this and let out a roar thatt started low and built up into a crescendo. The game duly restarted and we dismantled the Huns, coming from 2-0 down to winning 4-2. Nicholas scored two and I'm sure that Tom McAdam scored one of the others. The Celtic support refused to leave the ground although United won the League. The Police made the Celtic team come onto the Park to take the applause of the Fans so that they could all get home. Tommy was immense and I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that he was 100% responsible for the victory by the attitude and determination that he instilled into his team mates before the start of that second half. I'll never, ever forget it.
I'm only starting to realise what has happened Tommy and it is slowly dawning on me that you are no longer with us. I'll never forget you and number you amongst the greatest Celts that I have seen and the greatest Celts that my father told me about as I grew up 'Peerless' Patsy Gallagher, Jimmy McGrory, Johnnie Thomson and Malky McDonald. I will always remenber you fondly and tell my 3 year old grandson of the derring-do of the great Celtic Player, Tommy Burns.
Hail! Hail!
SadiesBhoy
Have to say that was just a beautifully written tribute Estadio and moved me to tears. Never heard anyone express so eloquently what the celtic family is about.
RIP Tommy
IMHO, one of the Greatest bands of the '80's
Life's What You make It
pablophanque