Debt spectre looms ominously over football

Gonk

podium ?

Arthur Lee - PICK IT OOT !!!!

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See Whit Happens When Ye Dinae Put Dubbin Oan Yir Football....

o1laceupballsbhoy

"Rangers on the rates" BRILLLIANT.

Off to work now, its going to be another great day.

Hail Hail

GB

WG

What happened when you and your pals played your bhoy and his pals?

Sorry if you've said and I missed it.

Paul67,

can you or anyone confirm that the license issued, required for clubs participation in European football is in fact issued by the national association ?

effectively meaning Rangers, The SFA, creative accountancy will ensure Rangers presence in Europe - if they qualify.

There are so many issues surrounding this particular issue and its such a mess that it is a testament to what a god awful job the games administrators have done.

They have failed spectacularly. They have lost their control of the game due to their own greed.

I have worked for an autonomous unaccountable European organisation for many years and it does not surprise me. There isn´t such an organisation that doesn´t become a self serving self interested hotbed of corruption. It could and should be easily monitored and controlled and European Governments need to get together to stop their people being ripped off at yet an other juncture.

The franchise is coming and once it is in place only then will UEFA and FIFA actually start doing what they were setup to do.

HAil Hail

Brother Taylor - coming to a saga near you soon !!

perhaps those who so loudly condemned the board for adopting a low debt strategy would like to publicly admit that Quinn and co got their strategy spot on?

Sellik First -

not happening till Easter - GO GO GUNNERS, BEAT THE HOOPS

Talking of large debts, I am looking for a bit of advice. I have the opportunity to go to the MU game at Old Trafford, but in the MU end. Anybody got any views on how the people of Manchester are going to react to 2 Scots in their midst?

Not much of a viewfaethewindae this last wee while, looking forward to all this international inconvenience to be over and the players returning injury free. Wee Chick will be sharpening the pencil as we speak, wonder what the state of the nation will be this evening? All glory to Murray or the truth? Go on Cheeko spin that wheel.

Would you like sauce with that?

If the mancs are like the scousers then they will be absolutely charming to you until Celtic go 1 up ;-)

lamartine,
Please delete

Would you like sauce with that?

I'm doing that as well. Sitting with 2 ManU season ticket holders .

Similarly , I don't expect many issues . Although I'm going to pass in the kilt - just colours.

EHIY ,

if you're around. Still looking for a ticket for you.

Sannabhoy

Lamartine, deleted.

Gerrybhoy71 :-)

Awe Naw, I believe it is issued by the national associations.

WG

Fair enough. Did you put it off until next Easter in the hope they would discover other interests and let you off?

I mean, there is none of us getting any younger, and it sounded a difficult enough prospect when you first mentioned it.

Sauce with that,

I was in with Man U fans when JVOH scored at old trafford in our last CL game down there, there was one guy, that got upset when i jumped 10 feet in the air, a few choice words exchanged, at half time we shook hands and agreed it was a good game.

You will be fine pal.

Hail Hail

is it still poetry day or does it stop at midday like April Fools Day. I hope not
Will David Murray tell us why his plans are not all pie in sky?

As if we think that Ibrox Park is any safer after dark

With shops and hotels built outside, it’s still the home of a rabid tribe

One would be brave to venture there, without two pairs of underwear

Though we’d be wrong to rule it out, it has a use without a doubt

Since Glasgow council needs a hame for followers of Scotland’s Shame
Where they can knuckle drag along to racist anti Irish song

And inter breed with man and beast, and anything not on the list

Of followfollow (hallowed site) of five thumbed creatures of the night

Who gorge on toilet duck then pee, (upsetting the good old RST)

In Spanish cities’ holy sites and anywhere their bladder bites

Plan all you want at Ibrox Park. You’ll never move the fetid mark

That’s deep ingrained down Ibrox way by unsurpassed indignity

Does David Murray know the score? One star, Dave, means so much more

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7660409.stm

There may be trouble ahead ....

Will the Institution be Nationalised! How strange a bail out that would be. So Conservative, yet so Socialist in concept!

Would we all then own Ibrox (circa 120m), and a debt of 30m. No thanks!

Vote Green at the next election!

Sellik First -

SOAL, NAFOS and myself have a post-Christmas Health Farm sabbatical to get prepared for the the big match. I thought maybe Seamill for tradition's sake. We're like three Boabby Murdochs being sent away by Big Jock with our socks roon our podgy ankles. We will return like graceful athletes, lithe and hungry.

(oops thought I was back in author-mode then)

WBG

Ouch 1 !

Ouch 2 !!

Ouch 3 : And Murray thinks he's got problems !!!

pablophanque

But surely the poor taxpayer, who already involuntarily subsidises the lifestyle of many a Rangers supporter (indeed, the invasion of Manchester would not have been possible had many of the horde been denied their various state benefits that week), would object to taking on yet another special institution?

I would urge them to find a private sector solution to their problems. Perhaps they should sell off Ibrox (apparently the stadium is worth over £100m!) and groundshare with Partick Thistle or Queens Park.

Does anybody know if Rangers FC still own Ibrox?

Would You Like Sauce With That @ 12:37...

After the last Champions League game at Old Trafford my brother was driving back to London and had parked his car near the Stretford End.

He was wearing Celtic colours.

He had to make his way to the car via the Stretford End and was attacked by some Manchester United "supporters" and given a bit of a kicking.

He had to visit A&E and suffered cracked ribs.

I know that other Celtic supporters had a lot more positive experience amongst the home support at that game however I am just alerting you to the fact that not all the locals are friendly.

Take care.

£26m bank robbery trial collapses....(BBC web)

The wee guy can buy a couple of investers boxes with his compensation from the Northin Irish constab

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Sorry Need To Leave....

Incident in the City....

"Man Down....Man Down"....

Some may find this of interest regarding the lead article by Paul67
http://www.footballeconomy.com/

Found this in Pablo's ouch 1

"Zimbabwe inflation soars to 231 million percent"

This is truly mesmerising and very hard to get your head round.

I wonder how it affects their internal transfer market. It's a good job the January window is not yet open.

Well Done to Chris Ward's legal team!.
Joke of a trial should never have happened.

Won't be long now Chris till you are back at Parkhead
Hail Hail!

I wouldn't be surprised if one possible ace up Sir David's sleeve for today's AGM is a new shirt deal with Adidas. My Ibrox insiders tell me that Sir David had been quite taken with the strips Adidas have come up with for French rugby club, Stade Francais.

Don't know about anyone else, but I reckon that Kris Boyd would look simply stunning in that Andy Warhol inspired third strip.

Paul,

I really think that UEFA should stick to the football, rather than start policing the finances of clubs. When is a club's debt too big? Surely that's a matter for the board and the shareholders. I'm pretty sure that the accountants could juggle the books anyway to ensure that any criteria were met.

On the other hand I agree with our club's strategy of minimising debt to ensure the the stability and security. On the other hand if other clubs wish to gamble, that should be their right. A couple of high profile failures would do a world of good to illustrate that serious debt can have consequences.

There was a footsoldier called Curly
Whose demeanour was often quite surly
In his kilt he was dashing
While the Scots took a bashing
Noo his skean dhu's headin fur Burley

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To Late the Feds Are Here....

Gordon
I live & work in Manchester and I was speaking to a United fan yesterday and he admitted that he saw a couple of Celtic fans getting a bit of a doing the last time we were in town. From what he said it seems singing YNWA riles them a bit like any song from the huns repertoire gets under our skin. The Mancs hate the Scousers and vice versa. Obviously this does not have the anti Catholic sentiment of the huns hatred towards us, but it should not be underestimated. I am sure 99.99% of Man Utd fans will be OK but you cant legislate for idiots, no matter what team they support.

Does anyone know how many tickets we got for Manchester?

HH
CTTC

There was a schoolbhoy named McGeady
Who wiz sent fae his class tae the Heidy
" You will noo pick yir country
n show nae affrontry
bit remember the Scots dinnae need ye "

Someone asked on the last thread about pubs/clubs near The Reebok in Bolton. Sorry mate, but the Reebok is out in the sticks a bit and while there are some Beefeater type pubs around there nothing much to write home about. A taxi into Bradshawgate in the centre of Bolton would be your best bet - plenty of pubs/clubs around there. Not sure how busy it will be on a Thursday night though.

Here we are, it's now October
And George Burley is quite sober
Though the Scotland team will drive him back to drink
Another world cup we'll miss
George will be back on the piss
While the Scottish coefficient further sinks

Meanwhile down the Copeland Road
There's a racist song being lowed
That the media do not hear and will not mention
But the day is coming soon
When the Celts will call the tune
It will see us win the league with no extension

No huns in Europe next year too
Sir David’s debt will fast accrue
But wait, is this a saviour mounted on a horse
Alas, it is no shining knight
Lloyds/TSB come into sight
To find out more read CQN of course

Sauce - we sat in the Stretford End at the last CL game and it got pretty ugly when JVoH scored. It stayed that way until they made sure of their victory.
There is no special relationship with them and oh how I loved doing them at CP. They were sick after it!

Lubo - no mention on here now of "debt nutters". Strange!

Paul - have these ML2er's got nothing better to do all day apart from hitting F5?!

TTTT

Cadizzy - At least Robert Mugabe can truthfully boast that, under his leadership, lots of ordinary Zimbabweans have become millionaires! Even if their currency is now worth less than one of those novelty Murray Moonbeams fivers.

It would seem our own heroic leaders are following Mugabe's example. After a financial crisis created by years of lax monetary policy, what is their answer to the inevitable popping of the credit bubble the central banks have created? Run the printing presses, but even more so! This time next year, Rodney, we'll all be millionaires, heaven help us.

Now is the time to invest in wheelbarrow companies.

Some quotes from FF from punters back from the AGM (Their spelling not mine) :)

"Just back from the AGM. Usual nonsense. At least Murray agreed that JJB are not holding up there end of the deal and he said if they go under then the rights go back to Rangers."

"Got a bid rowdy when they tried to end the Q&A session after only 25 mins. People started shouting out about it being a disgrace that people were not getting the chance to ask there questions and then Murray went all defensive "ok we will keep going then, ask all the questions you like!""

"its almost oscar winning.
punter: whats going on with the pies
king david: i shall look into this"

"Hopefully GS got a note of all the questions asked and will do a report later. If it started at 11 and your home by 1 then it shows how poorly they think of the fans"

"On a lighter note Dave King fell on his a**e walking up to the top table"

"Murray claimed that it was not the right economic time for a capacity increase"

"We can't fill it every week anyway,pointless adding 10,000 seats only to see them empty every week, celtic and big european games apart "

"He said the reason we havent hit the targets is becuase "JJB are not operating the Rangers account properly and could sell so much more if it was run properly" but there is nothing he can do about how JJB run there shops."

"Someone asked if Murray can guarantee that we wont sell important players in Jan that could cost us the title like Hutton did, Murray said he could NOT as we need to get the debt back down"

"Months after seeing the biggest invasion of football fans in a city (despite forking out a fortune already in games prior to Manchester) and it's not the right time for a capacity increase.

Yet when nobody can get a mortgage and retail figures are on the slide, Murray thinks that it's the right time to build a residential and retail complex opposite Ibrox."

"Yep, regarding the club defending the fans, Murray said "I'M GOING TO BE BE CONTROVERSIAL HERE, THERE IS A MINORITY OF OUR SUPPORT WHO CONTINUALLY LET US DOWN, BE IT IN THE STANDS OR DIFFERENT WEBSITES, THEY LEAVE US WIDE OPEN FOR ATTACKS BY THE MEDIA AND I ASK YOU THE DECENT RANGERS SUPPORTERS TO POINT OUT THESE PEOPLE""

Not a happy bunch of bears.

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Use Luminol....

And Check the Blood Spater....

celtic_to_the_core @ 1:29...

I agree that the overwhelming number of Manchester United fans will be fine.

I do think though that the message to Celtic supporters who find themselves outwith the main body of our support should be to keep their wits about them.

I thought that we received 5% of the capacity of Old Trafford - i.e about 3750.

PBF
Murray is indeed being controversial as the last time I went to Ibrox for a game the anti Catholic "minority" was about 40,000!!!
I believe Murray is fighting a losing battle and cant wait to sell up!
HH
CTTC

Gordon
I totally agree that fellow Celts have to be careful when down in Manchester when not in the mass group. However, I am sure our fans will go a long way to repair Manchesters image of football fans supporting a team from Glasgow.
You coming down?
HH

I don't know if anyone saw the BBC News at 1 o'clock. There was an item about the Catholic (I use the word deliberately)who has been found innocent of the biggest bank robbery in UK history in Belfast. As his legal representative said after the case collapsed "his being Catholic was sufficient for some considering him guilty". BBC Ulster shortly after, in their reporting of the case somehow cut short the spokesman as he was about to speak the words.....I wonder why?

Sir David reckons that his "support" have vastly improved during the 20 years of his tenure. They must have been truly awful before then, as we all know only too well.

BBC Scotland had Duffield and crew all smiles at Hampden. They were there seemingly to discuss bigotry in football but he was only asked about the Norway game (or at least that is all that was reported). No mention of THAT putrid ditty.

winningemmell = new ginmill men, new tesers cologne

Curly...

Some classic stuff on the previous post my good man!

Gus.

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Phone the Fed's

Celtic_to_the_core...

I am sure too that the Celtic supporters will leave a better impression on the citizens of Manchester than our ancient rivals did in May.

I will be there,though we are treating the trip a bit like a visit to Aberdeen straight to the game and back again.

Regards,

Dick Byrne

Those adidas strips you linked at 1.22pm are simply devine. Have Partick not got a pink shirt now.

But as you point out - the 3rd shirt is exceptional and opens the door for some great shirts.

Arthur Borucs goalie shirt would obviously have pictures of the pope on it

Charlie Adams (figure hugging shirt) would have pies on it

Barry feargusons would have barry fearguson on it

Any other suggestions !!!!!!!!!!!

Extract fron announcement on www.investegate.co.uk

Rangers Football Club plc

Rangers Football Club plc held its Annual General Meeting today at the Ibrox
Stadium, Glasgow.

All resolutions were passed either unanimously or by an overwhelming majority.

This announcement has been approved by the directors of The Rangers Football
Club plc.

WHERE MINTY LEADS WE WILL FOLLOW (FOLLOW)

Gordon
have a good trip, shame you can't join in the fun in the pubs beforehand, but no matter what I hope your team wins!
HH
CTTC

For those worrying about visiting Manchester, I don't think as a general rule you need concern yourselves. I regularly wear a Celtic top to the gym and have never had any problems, even in the wake of TFOD visit. A habitue of our local bookies is invariably garbed in Celtic top or tammy (or indeed both) and never gets any aggro.

I do know that Man U supporters hate YNWA, because they identify it with Liverpool. Mind you, a lot of their support are not local and some of them might not be too welcoming. In the 70s, Man U had just about the most notorious away support of all.

By the bye, I watched our demolition of Liverpool at Anfield among their support and had no problems at all. It was handshakes all round.

Stuart 1.26 - A clubs debt level is a football issue though. Say somehow manage to bring in Kaka, Pirlo and C Ronaldo in January and narrowly beat us to the title, getting the CL place. However they go into administration. They're docked point the next season but that doesn't alter the fact that they denied us a CL place through financial mismanagement.

Or to use the other end of the table, the financial consequences of dropping out the Premiership are huge. Imagine your team were pipped into third bottom by a high spending team that subsequently went into administration.

Anyone else going to the fives just as a precursor to the Hibs game.

Wet your whistle whilst watching your favorite fives team,and then down London Road for the big game,forget BBs that morning.

Paul 67

" rangers on the rates "

This model is used by Green Bay Packers in the NFL. They are subsidised by the residents of Brown County on their local taxes.

Although its a bit different there because the authorities favour them completely in that state local legislation seems to be skewed in their favour to make allowances for the organisation.

This could never happen in the West of Scotland ..................

WG from previous.....

Cheers Amigo...that Dungloe trip was one of the finest.

Great memories....if only I could remember them.

St Tully.

p.s. Doncha just love the Bold Bertie Bhoy? Was watching my favourite Lisbon Lion on a Celtic TV repeat last night. The bhoy Des Clarke couldnae get a word in.....Listening to Bertie is sheer entertainment.....talk about gallus?! Plus I love how he always refers to my namesake as "Charles Patrick".

I am very friendly with a few Man Utd supporters and recently attended a wedding with them down there.

I asked them the chances of getting a ticket , and sitting with them. Their opinion was definately not worth it.

They quoted several incidents inside and outside the ground the last time. With the atmosphere turning ugly as soon as Celtic went ahead.

as Kojo says ..... they like us , but not enough to sit and take a beating.

jinkysboy...

Nacho Ned's shirt would have Barry Feaguson on it...

Gus.

jinkysboy...

Nacho Ned's shirt would have Barry Ferguson on it...

Gus.

Gus

Kenny Missers would have a chameleon on it or be reversible

Darchevile would have Eddie Murphy on his.....

Allan McSh*gger's would be updated daily dependant on who appeaed on Page 3 that particular day...

:o)

Andy Goram's shirt would have Andy Goram and Andy Goram

Henriks Sombrero

Or from Curlys joke this mornings that could be David Weir or barry Fearguson again

Is Debt Spectre any relation to wee Phil ? ;-)

Derek Riordan would have WGS on his

Bobo Balde would have MON on his

Boltonbhoy - That'd be me. No problem mate, thanks for the reply, will just have to suffer the Dinner Dance and the free bar in that case!

Oh well, life's abitch eh!

Hail Hail
Gogo

PS Thanks to everyone who replied last night and today!

I wish I could splell propperly.

Posts strewn with errors.

Anyway...Bougherra's shirt would have Ugly Betty on it.

Stuart, figures can indeed be massaged, but bank debt remains one of the most likely causes of financial failure and it can take only a few reckless years – or one bad judgement – to get there.

Jinkysboy, thanks for that info.

Davie Dodds would have John Merrick

David Healy would have a flute

Gascoigne would have a champagne flute

That Plymouth goalie would have lots of arrrows

Frank McAvennie would have all Page 3 girls for the past 25 years

We could just have the Celtic FC shirt with the European Cup on it

Suppose TFOD could have the disnae exist anymore 2nd prize cup on theirs

SDM could have a picture of the Russian mafia on his,

while Boyd could have a picture of Sally on his...

Cadizzy...

Davie Dodds shout - hilarious...!

Gus.

Gus,A question for you.

Are you the same Gus that went for a meal with Gordon J and myself about a month ago,if so,nice to have met you.

Gus

Boyd only needs his for the last ten minutes of each game

The Jambos could have a picture of their bank accounts - blank

I thought SDM would have a picture of Mervyn King (Governor of the Bank of England)

A guy at work is a United season ticket holder and at the last United v Celtic CL game he said he was sat next to a 2 Irish lads one supporting Utd and one supporting Celtic. He said when Celtic scored the lad got some (nasty) stick, but most people stuck up for him. It may have been slightly different if we hadn't lost.

On a seperate note does anyone know how I can contact Blackpool Shamrock CSC the contacts link on their website doesn't work!

caddizzy

Im sure I saw John merrick with a davie dodds shirt on

Living down here in England, I can tell you that amongst the fans down here, there is still an overwhelming view that they have the best league in the world, and that the money is stored in a bottomless pit. There are some who have a realistic, pragmatic approach, but many still seem to think that this will all just blow over

Most recently Man City fans seem to think that with their new oil rich owners, they will simply steam roller their way to EPL glory by the end of next season, and the Champions league the year after that....World domination is just an oil well away!!

But they are completely ignoring the real facts. As a whole, the EPL has blown it's budgets left, right, and centre. Spurs for example, who are languishing at the bottom of the league, had a team out the other night worth £80 million, with another £50 million sat on the bench. I can only think that £130 million would just about buy every player in the SPL. And is the SPL being short changed as a poor relation? I don't think so. In the EPL there is currently only around 170 English players. That's just 8,5 English players per club. If the money does dry up, and it looks like club sponsors will be tightening their belts, then just what will happen to 'the best league in the world'? The financial guys at clubs like Chelsea, West Ham, and Man Utd, must crying in their shares options

In Scotland, Rangers, and particularly Mr Murray, must be dreading what is happening right now in the financial world. For Celtic, yes we are not good enough in the Champions league. We all wish we could have just one, or two more real quality players in the team than we currently do. But if you take the long term view, perhaps holding onto the purse strings as the board has done, might just prove to have been a smart move. I don't know that they planned it that way, but at least Celtic aren't having to look over their shoulders for creditors all the time.

Hail Hail

Okay deliberate mistake, Chelsea, and Mun Utd don't actually have share holders, but you know what I mean

A quick summary of the AGM on the sooside. What's with the staff safety? Has any of their staff bee assaulted recently???

Rangers AGM News PDF Print E-mail
Written by Administrator
As discussed in yesterday's article, today was the annual general meeting of the club's shareholders at Ibrox Stadium. The main topics of debate are listed below.

JJB Retail Partership

SDM admitted JJB were not contributing to their part of the deal well enough but if they went bust the rights would return to the club immediately. Chairman also confirmed bonus financial targets were not reached but blamed JJB for their poor performance as opposed to club.

Media Negativity

While Martin Bain agreed that there did appear to be a lack of objectivity within parts of the media, SDM also blamed web-culture for embarrassing the bulk of supporters and urged everyone to be vigilant in that regard.

Staff Safety

G4S Security are currently protecting Nacho Novo's residence while patrolling other employee localities.

Ticketing Arrangements

Continual problems with Ticket Office operations were blamed on unprecedented demand due to UEFA Cup run last season. Complete review of match ticket distribution also promised by Martin Bain.

Stadium Development

Delayed development proposal will be rubber stamped by GCC tomorrow (see other article). No stadium capacity increase at this time due to economic downturn. Shouts of derision were heard as top-table attempted to end Q&A early to discuss topic.

Player sales

SDM could not guarantee players would not be sold in future to help address long term debt increase. Cuellar and Cousin were both sold because they wanted to invoke clauses in their contracts. Chairman reaffirmed his commitment to the club saying he acted in its best interests at all times.

Hilarious stuff, keeping me off my work in fact...

oldtim67 - Yes it's me, the feeling's mutual - how are you keeping? That Chinese was superb.

Gus.

Re-arranged Rearrangers

George Peat = Reggae Poet
Gordon Smith = Nimrod Goths
Kris Boyd = dirk yobs
David Weir = wierd diva
Alan MacGregor = armagnac ogler
Barry Ferguson = sourberry fang
Walter Smith = wilt hamster
Ally McCoist = costly claim
Christian Dailly = instil chairlady
Ignatius Novo = nougat vision
Kyle Lafferty = let fly fakery
Kirk Broadfoot = fatbird or kook
Charlie Adams = clams airhead

Onceabhoy :- I don't think any of the staff have been assaulted recently but one has had property damaged and another his address published with implied threats.

Let's hear it for Wikipedia.

"The team plays aw thair hame gemmes at Celtic Pairk (whiles kent as Paradise or Parkheid), an it's the maist muckle fitba grund in Scotland."

http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_F.C.

I’d definitely watch myself sitting in the Manc end. I sat there in the new corner bits during Roy Keanes testimonial and while standing up to sing YNWA, as the only celt in that section, I got a fair few verbal’s (amongst other things) thrown my way. Not that I was bothered though I presumed it was the Liverpool connection.

By the end of the song I couldn’t move for prawn sandwiches

CelticFirst :- I think there is a spelling mistake in your post, in the word before grund shouldn't the "l" be an "i" ;-)

Edward

My car was vandalised in our works car park and I got some death threats on my mobile phone

Went to the work about it and they gave it "park at your own risk" and see the cops about the threats.

Went to cops - said see your work about threats.

I need to get a job at Ibrox - nah on second thoughts I will live with the threats and property damage

BhoyinEngland (from another bhoy in England)

I don't disagree with you. It will be interesting to see what happens when the current TV deals for the EPL come up for renewal. Even if they do replicate the skipload of money deal they currently hsve (and we ain't talking Zimbabwean dollars), some of them are so far in debt, that the TV money would not save them.

The one that interests me (and quite excites me) is the case of Chelsea. The club owes between 700m and 800m owed to the owner who is not charging then interest, as I gather. However, the deal is that, if he wants out (and therefore wants his money back) they have a year to find it and pay him back. They will take several years to bring in that kind of revenue, never mind profit.

Luke Chadwick would possibly have Davie Dodds on his shirt...though I wouldn't put my shirt on it

Gus.

I'm fine.
Maybe we'll meet again,I like chinese food so maybe we could do it again.
Are you going to the fives before the Hibs game,there's a bar in the Centre where the fives are taking place,so rather than BBs that day we could all gather at the Centre.

EdwardUrsus - not to mentioned that rock band who threatened to tell the world where Rangers players live. I salute your indefatigability in the face of Mogwai.

Edward, I thought the address published for Wee Nacho was something like 1690, Orange Street, Glasgow?

Not very funny, but what I believe passes in some quarters as 'banter'.

If there are security people patrolling his 'residence', does that mean:

a. That someone else published his real address (which I've not heard about, but would agree that it's very poor form and potentially dangerous)? or

b. That the guy really does live at 1690 Orange Street?

Jinkysbhoy :- I'm sorry to hear that and hope it has stopped but in the same position I'd make a complaint about the police handling of it. Someone threatening to kill you is a crime and the police should investigate it.

CelticFirst :- You said "That the guy really does live at 1690 Orange Street?" That is one of the silliest statements I've read on here, I thought everyone was aware it 12 July Parade he lived in :-)

First time poster long time...etc. Great site Paul, very addictive.
I’m looking for some advice from
anyone in the East Midlands on where
to watch the Man U game on the 21st.
As I’m going to be there for a few
days I thought I would seek some advice
before I booked a hotel.

I stayed for a couple of nights in
Leaminton Spa a few years ago
and thought it was a nice place and
I see on Celtic Bars website there
is an Irish Centre there.
Any advice much appreciated.

Glad to hear it oldtim67.

Not sure if I'll be at the 5s, I'm hoping to take myself off on holiday within the next couple of weeks, but if I'm here then I'm there...if you know what I mean.

I'll be in touch before the big day.

Edward

I did point that out to Mr Plod - to be fair to them - off the record they had a word in the guys ear and it stopped.

Point I was making is that it all depends on who / what you are how these matters are treated. BTW I mean as an ordinary Joe I dont get much but if I stayed in a mansion or was well known celeb it night be different. My reference to working in Ibrox was meant as a joke.

Does anyone know if Neil Lennon or WGS houses are patrolled by Celtics security services - cos judging by their performance at CP I wouldnt want to rely on them protecting me.

There was a fitba manager called Strachan
Whose money fur transfers wiz lackin
His bank it wiz Swiss
So he went oan the piss
n came back wi yon guy, Hakin Yakin

weeminger,

I'd disagree that they bet us through financial mismanagement, they beat us playing football on a football pitch, with 11 players (including Kaka et al).

I think EUFA attempting to legislate on Club debt is like the EU legislating that you must play 4-4-2. It's not in their remit.

There was a fitba manager named Watty
Who enjoyed oatcakes alang wi his pate
His fans they did riot
so hi went oan a diet
An noo it's wee Ally who's Fatty

Let us assume that there are five houses of different colors next to each other on the same road. In each house lives a man of a different nationality. Every man has his favorite drink, his favorite brand of cigarettes, and keeps pets of a particular kind.

1. The Englishman lives in the red house.
2. The Swede keeps dogs.
3. The Dane drinks tea.
4. The green house is just to the left of the white one.
5. The owner of the green house drinks coffee.
6. The Pall Mall smoker keeps birds.
7. The owner of the yellow house smokes Dunhills.
8. The man in the center house drinks milk.
9. The Norwegian lives in the first house.
10. The Blend smoker has a neighbor who keeps cats.
11. The man who smokes Blue Masters drinks bier.
12. The man who keeps horses lives next to the Dunhill smoker.
13. The German smokes Prince.
14. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house.
15. The Blend smoker has a neighbor who drinks water.

The question to be answered is: Who keeps fish?

There was a manager named Calderwood
who always goat beat wi Sellik

Jamsie

I spent some time near Leamington Spa (Ashbourne Hill) in 2006 and we went to an Irish bar that showed the Celtic and Ireland games when we were there.

I think it was Murphys in Regent St.

Your not far from Coventry either there and think theres a few Irish bars there too but Leamingtons a good place to go and not Man Utd allegiance there

Welcome Jamsie ,

no real advice on where to watch it in E. Midlands but I'm suggesting a new game and that is

' First one to welcome new posters !!'

Hey , look at that . I'm first !!!

Championees , championees , ole , ole , ole

Sannabhoy (itmustbehometimesoon csc)

Edward, seriously, if people only published a joke address for Nacho Novo, why are Rangers paying security people to guard his house?

there once was a tosser called Peat
who made airdrieonians greet
though he fretted and fussed
he still left them bust
and was rewarded with a very senior position in the ruling body in Scottish football.

(The last line doesn't rhyme or scan but more importantly, it makes absolutely no sense!)

Mmm ,

did jinkysbhoy get the first since he replied to Jamsie or do I get it since it's ma suggestion and technically , I said Welcome first.

Sannabhoy (itsmabaw csc)

Narrowboat Tim

Darnel anagrams from yesteryear

Nobs tits etc
Sir Wankely
EN Gruesome Ass
1 pt each

Sannabhoy

I protest - I may not have actually used the word Welcome but I did reply to his post first and offered some pretty good info in answer to his query.

Ergo I claim a 1st place on your new game and reckon you only get a podium

Sounds like an interesting AGM.

JJB didn't meet any targets that triggered bonuses. They must have been set very high, because when would they ever sell as many strips again?

Movement on the Ibrox development? Well, not really, but enough to claim progress.

And of course players will be sold. How else will they get the debt down?

Apparently Murray also made some remark about a minority of fans on a few websites letting the club down. Not the thousands singing racist songs every week then?

I think Peter Petrelli from "Heroes" looks like Zico, my wife doesn't see the similarity, but I don't think I've ever seen them in the same room at the same time:
Zico
Petrelli

Apart from the obvious John Merrick - Davie Dodds have there been any other look-a-likes?

Stuart,

They write their own remit so how can you say that?

If they decided tomorrow that all players have to play with their shirts tucked in - guess what ?

Do you not think that it is their remit to allow or at least attempt to provide a level playing field for all?

They (UEFA) have a remit to expand the game from grass root level to the upper echelons of International professional football. If they see billions of dollars leaving a country like Saudi Arabia they see it as their remit to try and channel those funds instead into building Saudi Arabian football.

I have no sympathy for them at all dont get me wrong but its not just as simple as one side being good and the other being bad. There is a conflict of interest between the billionaire owners and UEFA and that´s the bottom line.

The name of the game is power
and if you is not playing power
then you is in the wrong place

There was a manager named Swalex
Who used to self-abuse his larynx
Wi his drinkin n swearin
N rantin n rarin
Nae wunner hi sounds like the daleks

Sassafrassarassin ((c) Dastardly and Muttley) ,

I feel like Migel Mansell now . Can't even win at my own games.

Ah well , magnanimous in defeat as ever - well done Jinkysboy (see it's only taken me 3 posts to get your name right ).

Sannabhoy (illbeback csc)

Graeme Souness and Yosser Hughes (well, Yosser thinks so)

Ian Snodin and Glyn Snodin

Andy Goram and Andy Goram

Jinkysbhoy/Sannabhoy, one post and I've started an argument already, now that must be a first.

I say to the Rangers Directors, let the people sing! Shouldn't be too long now, the noose is tightening and the trap door will swing. Freedom of expression is a wonderful thing, crack on boys.

How foolish does Murray believe people are?

A retail complex in Govan. To be paid for by his already debt laden organisation. Presumably, borrowing the cash from the bank? It's just embaressing.

He should be ashamed to even continue with the pretence.... and any paper or news organisation that prints his plans should be just as ashamed unless they show extreme cynicism.

B

Raveheart35...

5 minutes after that second picture was taken, Mr Hartley's face was once again consumed by the incessant bush.

Gus.

How about Pele and thon black player in "Escape to Victory"?

Lurcy

Jinkysbhoy :- Thats a fair point to make, sadly it does seem to be that where you live and who you are makes a big difference to how you are treated by police. I did get the joke about Ibrox though :-)

ANNAOAN :- The answer is easy, all the folk with no taste that bought his records :-)

CelticFirst :- I honestly don't know how much of an address was published, I would imagine though that it must have made the house easy to find or they wouldn't have arranged the present security. Between that and the recent disclosure of Mr Strachans phone number some folk want to take a good look at themselves and get a life. Because someone plays for or is employed by a rival team doesn't give any moronic thug (and I include the idiots who put Mr Strachans number online in this)the right to threaten, harrass or assault them.

There was a fine coach, Arsene Wenger
Whose trophy-chances were looking quite slender
Whilst the men's team aye lose
The wummin's team cruise
So he's thinking ay chingin his gender !!

Ooh La La

Ah'm away tae the Teser, to your great relie