Maradona, populism gone mad

Hail Hail

a podium for the fish?

podium

first

Wooohoooo
:-)

boo

6th will do me

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Diego Maradona = Andy Goram....

o1bhoy = 007....

Franz Beckanbauer and Jurgen Klinsman had little or no managerial experiecne when they took the top job in germany and had a reasonable amount of success.

Steve Staunton however had a distinct lack of success in his term as Ireland manager in his first managerial appointment.

Diego Maradona was a better player than any of the above but whether that can be enough to bring the best out of a very talented bunch of players remains to be seen.

I don't think you will get great odds on him still being manager of Argentina come the World Cup in 2010 but football's a funny old game and with Maradona, you can't rule out what would be the greatest comeback in football if he leads Argentina to a world cup win in South Africa.

Got to love the picture of Maradona 10 on the hoops that was posted last night.

Paul 67.

Were you happy or displeased when Kenny Dalglish was appointed at Celtic Park?

Paul 67

It's the equivalent of making Gazza the manager of England in a couple of years after his failed attempt at management and numerous non football related problems.

I'm sure Maradona still has a very good football brain and the player's will no doubt respect his achievements but I dont see him having the staying power for this position - unless the attention is what he has been craving after his years out the game.

Regardless of what he has done I genuinly hope he succeeds as he is without doubt the best player of my generation.......after Henrik obviously :-)

Celtic lay on a the facilities for maradona and his team and the ball boy gets worldwide fame for his honesty.

meanwhile across town Ex Rankers captain the Butcher says "I may introduce his the the fist of butcher"

Old Firm indeed

when i first heard that maradona was taking over the national team, my immediate reaction was it was a populist decision to give new impetus to the team, but that there would be someone behind the scenes like bilardi who would be making all the key decisions. the holy hand would be good in uniting the dressing room.

gazza for england manager, i like it!

When Paul refers to wee Diego as a TV host, think more Jonathan Ross than Gary Lineker by the way.

Who knows, he has great players. They love him, the nation loves him. What if it clicks? What if, leaving all references to banned substances to one side, the human chemistry is enough for Diego to get the very best out of his group of brilliant, brilliant players?

I think of George Best as a flawed genius, but he ended up playing for Hibs, when he could get out of bed on time. No one would have entrusted him with a World Cup qualifying bid.

Wee Diego has won the World Cup for Argentina before by the sheer force of his personality. His genius has shone much brighter and for much longer. He got to the very pinnacle of the game and stayed there for a number of years, in spite of his personal demons. I think the genius outweighs the flaws by a considerable margin.

I can't help but love the guy.

jinksyboy

I reckon wee Diego would take Butcher no probs!

It's a vewy pwoud day for me.

Just goes to show what hard work and dedication can achieve. I truly believe that things can only get better for me from now on. This will not be my last victory. I'd like to thank Paul for giving me this opportunity, Nigel for his inspiration and long time lurker 67heaven for pointing me in the direction of the blog all these months ago.

Hail Hail to one and all.
Your champion of the day.
Jamiebhoy

DundeePerth, when Barnes and Dalglish were appointed at Celtic I said “we are going down the tried and tested rookie manager route”, with some sarcasm.

When Dalglish took over as a caretaker I was ambivalent as he was only going to be there for a short period.

Helicopter Thursday, a good analogy.

Celtic_First, yes, thanks for pointing that out.

Jamiebhoy, today’s champion.

DundeePerth:

was Kenny Dalglish not one of only three managers in England to win their premier competition with more than one club?

That is a genuine question on top of I think Kenny Dalglish was the first manager to take Newcatle to a cup final in over forty years.

I stand to be shot down on that, but i think I'm right.

Another popular opinion gone mad, fuelled by Sir Minty and the man with no surname, is the fallacy that the establishment and referees in particular, are falling over themselves to aid the Celtic cause and hinder the pretensions of the manky mob to our crown.
Is there no way that Celtic FC can counter this spin campaign deliberately designed to undermine our effectiveness? Last season we saw all sorts of underhand deviousness, sometimes subtle (lack of bookings, e.g. Captain Unbookable) and some not so subtle (e.g. McCurry), take place. At least they waited to the new year then. What must the panic be like at their place when their 2 most influential mouthpieces have resorted to this nonsense by November?
Unfortunately the more intellectually challenged among the mob's hordes will see this lead, (Minty & waistcoat not our 4 points) as an excuse to extend their already vile terracing behaviour.

Kitalba.

I think you are.

Paul 67.

Thanks for swift response. Personally, I think it is a little early to assume that Diego will fail at Argentina, but as Mort has pointed out, there are success stories to be had with rookie managers.

I hope he succeeds.

Terry Butcher does not have a clue

1) after the forces of darkness drew with Motherwell he had a mad rant on setanta stating that "i mean, Celtic arent even playing well just now"

very good terry, at that point we were playing our best football under WGS

2) his statement last night "i will never forgive him" and "it may be more like the fist of Butcher" are a disgrace

he is the assistant manager of scotland FFS
99% of Scotland fans were DELIGHTED when Maradona did that
99% of Scotland WANTED Argentina to beat England

Butcher should remember who he is Assist Manager of

what an absolute ar******

Also

the Tartan Army yesterday tried to present Maradona with a set of glass boots which were encased, for scoring against England yet on the same day Butcher comes away with aw that nonsense

what an absolute ar**

cannot stand the guy
talks the biggest lot of pi** i have ever heard

RANT OVER

Guys like Beckenbauer and Klinsmann were model pros who didnt have the major problems Maradona has had over the years.

Having said that, Maradona is now managing arguably the most gifted set of players in International football and could surprise a few people if he can command the respect he, and any good manager, deserves.

Just depends if Diego has managed to control the self destruct function which seems in built in his character

One question bhoys: would you be upset in Butcher's shoes? Is, say a former Rangers player had scored a goal with his hand against us??

I'd love to see Maradona succeed. He deserves to be remembered as a legend.

I'm all for it. Maybe modern day football is getting way to serious? Maybe a bit of romance will bring smiles back on faces in 2010? Maradona lifting the coupe de monde would certainly go a long way to achieving this.

As my bhoy and ghirl would say....... Go Diego Go!!!

DundeePerth, Momrt did provide good examples, but the circus that has surrounded Maradona for nearly 30 years is not going to disappear.

I harbour a wish to see McCoist installed in the top job at Ibrox for the same reasons.

eurochamps

I don't think you should worry too much about Celtic countering the spin campaign. Let them hang themselves. I think the claims being made by Oor Wattie are just showing the cracks that are getting bigger and bigger behind the scenes. At the end of the day if they want to start a campaign against the officials in Scotland I am all for it. I'll take neutral officials, TV evidence etc. any day of the week. And if they want to question each officials background I'm happy with that too. Conspiracy? I can almost bet we would have Craig Levein and Dundee Utd's backing and that's just for starters!

Although Dalglish and Barnes sounded like the dream ticket it was an initiative that Fergus Mc Cann was completely against. He warned all board members (including DD) that he was personally against it.

I reckon that with Mac Donald being one of Kenny Dalglish´s golf partners and an obvious fan that Fergus saw it as another act of Celtic cronyism and guess what ? :-) he was right

Dalglish saw an easy nook for himself having had stressful times as Liverpool, Blackburn and Newcastle. His tenure at Newcastle was especially gruesome and should have been an indicator of what Celtic were letting themselves in for. Kenny Dalglish made singularly the biggest mistake of his Celtic career by leaving John Barnes to get on with it. That was a massive gamble by Dalglish on his part and it truly reflected Fergus´s concerns.

I cant imagine Kenny Dalglish accepting a job in the EPL under the same circumstances and been given the same leeway unless it was a newly promoted club. Imagine an EPL club lining up with a revolutionary 2-2-2-2 formation? and not a formation that has been cooked up by a master tactician but a complete novice.

RANGERS fans were slammed in the European Parliament last night for singing the notorious Famine Song.

Irish MEP Eoin Ryan said the chant was �despicable and totally unacceptable�.

He has written to all of Scotland’s MEPs, seeking their support to end the �sectarian, racist and anti-social behaviour� at SPL matches.

Gers supporters have come under fire for aiming the the song at Celtic rivals and Scots-born Hamilton Accies player James McCarthy, 17, who has chosen to play for the Republic of Ireland.

Mr Ryan told the parliament: �We must do all in our power to combat racism at sporting matches which is very prevalent in many countries around Europe and in particular at soccer matches around Europe. Sadly in recent times this has now included Scotland.

�It is utterly despicable and totally unacceptable that a number of fans who are opposed to Scottish-born players who have declared for Ireland are singing abusive and insulting songs against them at a series of different Premier League football matches in Scotland.

"In particular, they are chanting what is known as The Famine Song, which is a vile and racist song and which calls for Irish people who took refuge in Scotland after the famine to return home to Ireland.

�The singing of the Famine Song at Scottish Premier League matches is highly insulting to the Irish people and to our country.�

John Macmillan, general secretary of the Rangers Supporters Association, said he was �angry� that the issue of the Famine Song had been raised at such a high level.

He said: �Let me ask the MEP to investigate the IRA chants that come from the Celtic support.

�Celtic don’t say too much on the subject and some of their fans are in complete denial that it takes place.�

perhaps Terry forgets how Diego made a mug of him when he dribbled around the whole of England to score the worlds greatest goal. Diego inspired a generation, and I for one know I wozn't the only kid to try ridiculous maze ups in the play ground and on the rare occasion they came off, wheeling away in delight shouting Maaaraaaadooonaaaaaa! Certainly inspired me to play football. Maybe Terry forgets Michael Owens embarrassing dive to con a penalty in 2002?

Gordon J

Too right I would have been annoyed, especially in a game like the 1/4 final of a World Cup.

What Lennondinho18 says is true though......in Butcher's new role with Scotland he shouldnt really be entering into what he feels about Englands history.

He was probably asked a direct question from a journalist though which, in all fairness, he's just answered honestly.

Difficult one to judge but as it's coming from a former England and Rangers captain it makes it slightly easier ;-)

I was still at school in 86 and staying at a mates in Armadale, we'd been to mass and the Irish Priest there at the time Fr Healy, said a prayer for Diego and his team to give England a going over so perhaps there truly was a touch of the hand of God.

I hear you Gordon_J and clearly Butcher is well within his rights to never forgive Deigo Armando.

Howevvvahhh, as my post in the last thread pointed out, the main issue is that I think big Tel is in the wrong job. He's going to have to listen to 90 minutes of the Deigo Song tomorrow night and if he had any cahoonas he'd be saying: "no hard feelings guys, but this isn't really the job for me, is it?"

from previous article

CQNer's

Today was a good day

Kano is progressing as always

He was in great form today

and has a new communication tool that has

allowed him to express himself further

they have had him out of bed and sitting/lying in a big chair

although the diagnosis is still unclear Kano has taken it

upon himself to get this show on the road

his progress is steady and consistent although slow

it has only been 13days since he was taken ill

I have to say thank you to every one who has

sent me emails and posted on here in support of martin

there is still a very long way to go but HE WILL PREVAIL

again...if you feel like emailing a message to martin

please use this email

ramie420@gmail.com

ramie

Awe Naw

Thanks for posting that, I was wondering if Eoin Ryan had got to ask his question.

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Well Done Paul67....

You Have Just Started a Managers Debate.... ;O((((

o1gaffermanagercoachteamleaderCSC

Lennondinho

You need to remember that of that 99% of Scotland fans who were delighted to see Maradona score a load o them decided a few years ago that they were actually English! Never seen so many England tops walking the streets of Glasgow!

John McMillan should take his campaign to Europe.

If nothing else, it would give him a wee European trip this season.

He should concentrate on France's EU presidency and take his protest there. He should seek to make the most of the Celtic (sorry John) connections with Brittany and hold a press conference in Nantes.

I can recommend as a venue the Brit Hotel Le Kerann. Cracking name for a hotel, John, isn't it?

It's easy to find. It's in the Rue Bobby Sands.

It´s pretty funny I find that we are debating whether Diego will make a good manager when our national assistant manager (note not coach) lasted 3 months with Brentford and 4 months with Northern Spirit and unfortunately he is not remembered for taking Motherwell down due to an SPL management decision which was all based on helping Rangers to the 2003 SPL title, he also took them to the wall.

I think that Terry Butchers recent press utterings have put people off from actually going to the game. Instead of being a glamour friendly it sounds like its about to become a grudge match and Gary Caldwell would be well served keeping his big trap firmly closed. We need him until the end of May.

Any dirty tricks that Caldwell sees tonight that he hasn´t seen already in the CL then I´ll be amazed.

Faithful thro n thro

True mate

but they will all be part of the forces of darkness

they still dont know what they are

Dutch, English, Scottish

Hence why they fly the Saltire and the Union Jack together at Ibrox

2 totally different flags meaning different things

they dont have a clue

Faithful

Good points but you say what I mean. Why don't Celtic come out and say e.g Yes we are all for transparency, we have nothing to fear?

By allowing them to pedal their nonsense unchallenged then their view becomes the percieved wisdom. When we KNOW the opposite is true.

I'm not talking about a tit for tat, "your goal was offside" etc. More an open airing of the issues, strokes chin, "Mmm, possibly the SPL, SFA, could consider video evidence, we would welcome and are open to scrutiny", sort of thing.

I hate the fallacy that we, Celtic and the manky mob, are two sides of the same coin. We are not. None moreso than in the 4th estate, where we constantly have to put up with weak populist journalism from the likes of Walker, Provan, Nicholas et al, rolling over to appease their paymasters, when the likes of BFDJ, Gordon Smith, Butcher and a whole host of "sports journalists", find it impossible to question the will of Watty and Minty.

Maybe Celtic FC should spearhead the campaign for transparency in Scottish football decision making. Especially at this time when it is being claimed that we are the beneficiaries of dodgy dealings.
Beat them at their own game. Put up or shut up Minty.
We have nothing to fear except fear itself.

The hand of god I alway equate with a good kicking that I got while living in Surrey in England. Having celebrated uncontrollably both Maradona goals on the way home - while completely drunk. So you´ll have to excuse me if I still take perverse pleasure in that particular goal. I think it shades Joe Jordans goal in Wrexham that took us to Argentina

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Star-struck Scotland bows to Maradona....

They gathered in hushed tones around the entrance to an hotel in the centre of Glasgow yesterday. From the ever-growing kerfuffle that developed, any innocent passer-by might have thought that the Second Coming was imminent.

“Have you seen him?” someone asked. “Yes, yes . . . he passed by that doorway five minutes ago.” When Diego Maradona is in town, the natives evidently stir. Glasgow was grey and wet — “dreich” to use a colloquialism — but it didn’t stop the locals, the media and anyone else who fancied a peek from descending on the plush hotel where Maradona’s Argentina team are based for tomorrow evening’s friendly against Scotland at Hampden Park.

And a “peek” is about all they got. I maintained a two-hour vigil, which incorporated a coffee, a chilled beer and then — marvel of marvels — a 20-second flash of Maradona as he sauntered across the lobby for lunch at about midday.

“Don’t approach him,” we were warned. Whatever else has come and gone from his life, it is good to report that the mullet is as bushy as ever.

He was a bit grumpy, too: no photographs, no autographs, and certainly no pesky children getting in his way, so the word went out. A few of the television hacks were brassed off at being told that no one — save for an official Argentine film crew that is following him this week — could film Maradona near the hotel.

That did not stop one schoolboy from meeting the coach, though. Maradona’s mood appeared to lift as he hoisted Adam Brown into the air to pose for pictures with the 13-year-old after he found a St Christopher medallion that Fernando Gago, the midfield player, had lost on the field in training at Celtic Park.

It captured the spirit of goodwill and Tartan Army well-wishers will congregate at Hampden tomorrow to offer Maradona their very, very best wishes. In Scotland, anyone who does what Maradona did to England that hot, sultry afternoon in Mexico City in June, 1986, is guaranteed a warm reception.

The “Hand of God” goal in the Azteca Stadium produced a split reaction in Britain that resonates to this day. In England, the screeching and sheer bleating over what Maradona did to Peter Shilton was so loud and prolonged that you can still hear its echoes. In Scotland, however, there was nothing but hearty guffaws at the former player’s cheek.

Terry Butcher, the Scotland assistant manager but a hapless England central defender at the time whose job was to huff and puff fruitlessly after Maradona, claimed that he would “never forgive him for what he did”. From memory, Butcher attempted two lunges at Maradona as he slalomed past England for his wondrous second goal that day and he is evidently still bearing the mental scars.

Butcher’s grief was not helped by Maradona writing in his biography: “I sometimes think I preferred the goal I scored with my hand . . . it was a bit like stealing the wallet of the English.”

Meanwhile, the Tartan Army are just happy to quote Barry Davies, the BBC commentator that afternoon, even if they juxtapose commentary and respective goals: “You have to say that’s magnificent!”

The truth is that this has become a bit of a circus. Faded geniuses in sport are always a bit complicated. Past greatness and present sadness are always the unspoken themes.

Given his impulsive and faintly reckless nature, it seemed a bizarre decision when the Argentine FA appointed Maradona as Alfio Basile’s successor three weeks ago.

Six months from now — even six weeks — will he still be in the job? In the meantime, Glasgow is playing host to these first, improbable moments.

The Argentina coach will give a press conference this afternoon, where he will be asked yet again about Butcher, England and 1986. It is like Bobby Fischer and Boris Spassky all over again.

(The Times)

o1bhoy

Maybe Butcher should remember what his job is, but as pointed out he was probably asked a direct question and responded honestly. We have enough to get at Rangers without worrying too much about what Butcher has to say.

Will Maradona make a good manager? Who knows, but it will be interesting. There will probably be fallouts and some interesting stories along the way.

Great player doesn't always equal great manager, as we know. And many of the best managers were mediocre players at best.

I dont want to go too far into the song debate,I feel I have to reply though after reading comments by the Rangers fans chairman John McMillan,I personally wouldnt chant about the IRA however, when Rangers fans use it as an excuse to being offended by a group who they percieve should be banned from singing about in Britain I always make the comparison to the BNP,their agenda is far more sinister and would have devastating consequences for the security of these Islands,being in Bradford there are thousands of Muslims,now in my book,singing about the IRA wether it be the group of the Easter Rising or the Provisionals is the exact same as voting,supporting,marching and campaigning for the BNP,yes,theres a taste element but its in no way illegal especially if the songs sung dont have graphic references to bloodshed or racism,so if theres any lurkers just think about this point when you think the idea of the Irish struggle,singing or whatever,is deemed offensive in Britain!

Lennondinho

Totally agree. I remember asking a Rangers fan at the time why they were following England. Answer was that they have had so many English players who have done well for their club .....eh?? That must be how that perfectly innocent 'tangerine' top came about that they had - was all for the benefit of those legendary dutch players and management! See we just don't understand, really they are a caring bunch!!

Is the game not tomorrow night?

Tonight's big fixture is the FACup replay between Gray's Athletic and Carlisle.

All these Mcmillans are confusing; we've got James who thinks the Celts are the pollinators patellae and John who err begs to differ.

Wee Diego's coach at the '86 WC,Carlos Bilardo, was a trained gynaecologist.

There already is a video evidence initiative in place

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news.cfm?newsid=3043&pageid=155&back=1

Celtic should be asking publicly why this revolutionary ground breaking initiative has not been used since 1st August 2007 ?

Gents

This John McMillan clown is supposed to be an ambassador for the rangers supporters and only succeeds in taking a swipe at Celtic football club and our supporters. As general nobody of the rangers supporters club you are suppose to be seen to combat racism by commenting on the despicable and totally unacceptable behaviour of your fans!!.

Maybe you are the "ambassador" for the rangers supporters club as the "scum element" only rise and proclaim such shocking backing of sectarian racist and anti-social behaviour.

WCM

DBBIA

Didn't know that, thanks. I for one believe there should be more gynaecologists involved in football.

Faithful thro n thro

so true mate

they have no idea what they are

and have no idea why either

I remember Tam Cowans show, Off the Ball, interviewing people at various places

TC: Why are you wearing an England Top
Boy: Cause am a Ranjurs fan
TC: Burst out laughing

sums it up

eurochamps

Again good points. Agree that it may be a good time to turn it right back round on them. For example, had the ref (McCurry I believe) from the Dundee Utd game at the end of last season been scrutinised (as well as others) there is no way they could even defend some of his decisions. We have been calling for something to be done for as long as I can remember so maybe now is the time to hit them back with it! OK you have convinced me!!

Sir David Murray will celebrate 20 years in charge of Rangers this coming weekend and there is to be yet another sumptuous bash to mark the occasion. The pity for Murray is that quite a few Rangers fans are growling over his continuing stewardship. The moral of it is that, in football, you shouldn't over-stay your welcome, however much in Murray's case that seems a bit harsh.

It hardly seems 10 years since James Traynor and I - then of the Daily Record and Scotland on Sunday respectively - were invited out to Jersey to commemorate Murray's 10th year in charge. Yes, yes...that was the famous occasion of Jim's knife "slicing through some of the most succulent lamb I've ever tasted in the company of His Highness, the Rangers chairman..."

Murray has always been the subject of drooling journalism but, beside that, we still need to acknowledge his amazing durability in his post.

Those Rangers fans who have good cause to want him out of Ibrox still need to acknowledge the great things he did for the club. In those first 11 or 12 years Murray literally minted Ibrox, with such players as Brian Laudrup, Paul Gascoigne and Stefan Klos arriving to play for Rangers. For quite a while during Murray's stewardship there was also a regular panning of Celtic, which for many Rangers supporters was all that mattered. Notwithstanding the odd embarrassment in Europe, these were heady and thrilling times to be a Rangers fan.

The problem Murray faced came when the inevitable feasting was over. His ambition for Rangers bordered on fiscal recklessness, and he even scoffed when some of us in the press began to point out that Rangers' bank-borrowing appeared to be becomig dangerous. At the time in early 2002 I wrote that there was "financial vandalism" being done to Rangers, and Murray never forgave me for the phrase, signalling the end of a sweet relationship. By 2003, when the Ibrox net-debt rose to £82m, the plain fact was that Murray's governing of Rangers had led the club to near-ruin. Rangers, I still maintain, have paid long and hard for these damaging days.

One example of the lasting effect of it all was in the appointment of Paul Le Guen in June, 2006. This was a brilliant appointment for Rangers at the time, a real coup for Murray and the club, yet Rangers FC was hamstrung. The club appointed one of Europe's most sought-after coaches while not being able to give him much money to spend. "We have to go down the road of youth," Murray said at the time of Le Guen's arrival, acknowledging the on-going frailty of Rangers.

Le Guen made many mistakes at Rangers but the episode remains the great lost opportunity at Ibrox. The Frenchman's appointment could and should have heralded a new golden age for the club.
Now a new set of circumstancs has washed over Murray.

The current recession means he is locked into Rangers, unable to escape. He has wanted out of the club for two years but has unsuccessfully searched for a buyer. And all the while his asking price for Rangers, just like some of us trying to sell a house, has gone down and down: £70m, £60m, £50m, £45m. Le Guen's time was supposed to be the Murray get-out on a high: here is a great coach, here is another title, thankyou and goodnight. But the plan failed and Murray is still mired in Rangers.

The many great things he did for Rangers should not be forgotten. History, however, will remember David Murray as someone who was very good for Rangers, who became very bad for the club.

Britney

The good old orange top they wore was hilarious.

Just imagine if they were celebrating a positive influence from Nigeria or the like......would they celebrate by wearing green andwhite for the day.

Note to self - must only celebrate Dutch, Northern Irish and English influences because I like the colours of the flags!

C1st- I saw the La Liga results yesterday. Herr Schuster's jaikit must be on a shooglie peg after losing to the mighty Vallodolid.

Why are they called the Pucela? The fleas?

I live in England and most of my mates are English (one of them bought Bazza Fergushun's house when he couldn't hack it in the EPL), I even married and English girl. I couldn't care less if England win lose or draw (unless they're playing Scotland), but if they are going to lose I always prefer a "we were robbed/that was an embarassment" type loss.

RH35: Why are you wearing a Rankers top?

English lad: 'cause I'm an idiot.

RH35: fair enough.

Lennondinho

That's so unfair. Does Tam Cowan not realise that theyarrapeepul and "cos am a ranjurs fan" is a good enough answer for any question???

Maybe we should start a campaign for their next away top and which player they should dedicate it to!

GEORGE BURLEY is set to play all six Celtic players at some stage against Argentina tomorrow night - just six days before Gordon Strachan's men face Aalborg in a crucial Champions League tie.

The Scotland manager has already spoken to the Parkhead boss about the situation.

And, despite being in the grip of a serious injury crisis and in the middle of a very heavy fixture schedule which resumes at Love Street at lunchtime on Saturday, Strachan has made it clear it would not be right for him to try and tell another manager what to do with Paul Hartley, Stephen McManus, Gary Caldwell, Scott Brown, Shaun Maloney and Barry Robson.

Midfielder Hartley - who scored the late winner against Hamilton prior to joining up with the squad - revealed the Celtic six are all ready and willing to play against Diego Maradona's side.

He said: "All the Celtic players involved want to play for Scotland. We are desperate to represent our country.

"The gaffer (Strachan) always encourages us to play for Scotland. He has never said anything to the contrary. As a player he got 50 caps and wanted to play in every game. We're no different."

Smith said last Tuesday that he felt Ferguson was not ready to play a full game. However, he lasted 90 minutes in the his first start of the season against Motherwell the following day and played another full game on Saturday against St Mirren. Smith added last week: "We've got two games before the Scotland game and so he's ready to start a game for us. But whether he's ready to start against Argentina is another thing.

Now I ask you if a nation cannot see this then how is video evidence going to help ? Peeple see what they want to see

regarding TRS
mcmillans comments just confirm that the bigots just don't get it .
they have been told twice that they risk arrest if the continue to sing TRS ,It has been discussed in parliament here and now Europe ,and still these so called spokesmen for rangers still don't get it .time is running out for the bigots ,when are the decent rangers supporters going to stand up and be counted ,tell these mouthpieces to shut up and leave TRS singers exposed to arrest .

Help!

Is Kenny Miller not in the squad due to a calf injury or a hamstring in the thigh area. Is it the same injury that kept him out against Norway ?

DAnke

Awe_naw

The proposal for retrospective penalties for divers was discussed at the International FA Board meeting on 8 March 2008 and while the IFAB didn't agree to Gordon Smith's proposals they agreed that simulation is an act of cheating which must be intensively fought and sanctioned during the game and that all member associations would be encouraged to do so. Gordon Smith then had this to say.

One has to wonder why nothing more has come from this. I'm sure there has been a number of occassions when players in Scotland have "simulated" a foul to try and get an advatage over a fellow professional. If Mr Smith doesn't have access to video footage of games here are just a few acts of simulation he may wish to retrospectively punish:

Kris Boyd v Dundee United
Novo v Aberdeen
Thomson v Celtic

Does anyone think that this campaign has stagnated due to some of the above actions or am I just being paranoid.

Mort (not holding his breath)

Clark's write out of order
I WAS interested to see Kenny Clark come out and defend his mate Tom Murphy in his newspaper column last week after his display in the Rangers game against Motherwell.

I am also surprised that, so far, there has been no comment from Kenny on Steve Conroy and his assistant Chris Young after the penalty decision in the Hamilton game against Celtic.

What is the point in giving a former referee a column if all he is going to do is back up his old colleagues? - BFDJ

PotKettleblackCSC

Could the Rangers squad not all declare themselves English like their supporters? Then they wouldn't need to worry about pulling out of internationals!

Helicopter Thursday,
Totally agree m8,

Holland, England and Northern Ireland strips. Never seen any Italy stirps for their Italian contingency.....Porrini, Amoruso, Vanoli, and co. Pretty sure they may be tims!!!!!!

WCM

Faithful thro n thro

Surely you're not suggesting that Mr Cappello has got enough quality players in the England squad that he wouldn't need to call on the services of McGregor, Broadfoot, Weir, Dailly, Ferguson, Thompson, Miller or Boyd should they all be available for England.

I'm assuming the foreigners, Novo et al still wouldn't be available cos England would need to give some teams a chance.

Mort (tongue firmley in cheek this time)

Mort,

Exactly and exactly the questions we should be asking.

Rangers for some time now when they play away try and get the ball into the final third and hit the deck. They do this nearly every time. It´s sad to see Kenny Miller a player who normally tries to stay on his feet being coached into this. Shame on you Kenny Miller. Novo Boyd and Miller always take the percentage call. Check out the number of away goals that Rangers have scored since January from set pieces that was the result of a bad decision due to a Rangers player throwing himself to the ground.

I think that we're all being a bit hard on Boydichenko, he must have a medical problem, probably something to do with his inner ear that causes him to fall over randomly. He is also disorientated by the presence of a football and defenders, although the clip doesn't back up this as he wasn't near either. From his resopnse to falling over, it appears he may also suffer from a form of Tourrette's Syndrome.

DBBIA

Pucela is an old-fashioned nickname for Valladolid, and is easier to say when you've sampled some of the local vintage, which I try to do as often as possible.

It is quite similar to the word for flea 'pulga'.

Leo Messi's nickname is La Pulguita Atómica, which is the name the Hispanic world gave to Atom Ant.

Has there ever been an Atom Dec?

I have fond memories of that orange shirt :-)

during seville week, Me and my dad and pals were staying in benalmadena. the pub we went to most nights was in this huge square of pubs.
one night there was literally hundreds of cellic fans in the hoops, when this guys swaggers out from behind a pub in his bright orange gers top.

"whoa! look! what the?"

cue this stupid guy getting pelters from hundreds of celtic fans

he then managed to squeak "eh, hope yous do well on wednesday lads"

never seen a guy run away so fast!

breaking news
nacho nova pulls a hamstring whilst waiting in queue at Glasgow passport office ,after receiving his passport,he declared" my dream is over I have no choice but to retire from international football and concentrate on playing the best I can for my club "

Paul67

Aha! Be it a case of great minds or fools seldom differing (albeit a great mind in your case!) I find myself agreeing completely regarding the Carnival Atmosphere of McCoist (my memory of this headline in the Daily Record from the 90s has clearly caused me some upset)taking on the job of Chief Bluenose. While this self styled "Joker of the Pack"/one half of Laurel and Hardy of Scottish Football (another reference to McCoist, in tandem with Mark Hateley - ah! the halcyon days of the 90s....)may excel in front of the television cameras, I do long for the day that a further return to "traditional values" along Paisley Road West means he, Durrant and Brown are promoted to form a managerial coven. Arguably the very definition of form versus substance.

Lest we forget:

Wife cheatin'
Keban shop beatin'
Bath overflowing and downstair seepin'....

Mon the Hoops.

"H"

I wish Novo would take the leap of faith from the govan Highrises.......oh a hope there's spikey railings below. :) :)

On the diving debate, I think we are sometimes too quick to forget that it's not just the other side that have a small tendancy to do this at times.

We have a few in our side that love to play for fouls, most notably Skippy anywhere close to the 18 yard line!

The best player to grace the Hoops for the past 30yrs was also slightly prone to going over easily.
Not trying to stir an argument but we need to admit it's widespread throughout the game and not just at Ibrox

Mort

I wouldn't dream of making such a suggestion! I was merely suggesting that Fabio Cappello is no a Rangers man (otherwise he would qualify for the Scotland job) and therefore, in this current climate of anti-Rangersism he would not consider such players even although it would be difficult for him to overlook them. I thought that was obvious!

(Tongue even more firmly in cheek)

Maradona as a manager? Yeah it takes some believing, but he might not seriously damage the game as much as Dunga is doing at Brazil. Diego is having a bit of a new lease of life it seems. His daughter is going with Atletico de Madrid's ' Kun ' Aguero and it is said that Diego will be becoming a grandfather soon. And what a player the new kid, male or female, might be. It is good for Diego to be a pseudo father figure to the new Argentinian star and Aguero will be getting some great advice from a man who has seen it all, as the best in the world in his day.

C1st ;- Thanks a lot for the info on old Pucela the other day,...you wouldn't know any good places to stay in or around the city?

touristinformationCSC

Faithful thro n thro

true mate

maybe a bit harsh on tam cowan ;0

Helicopter Thursday ,

my point was that at Rangers they are coached and schooled to go down every time as part of the game tactic as they have a better chance of scoring from a set piece. These fouls are normally given. When a Tic player go down it´s an individual choice with them and the award of a free kick is statistically much less likely. It´s similar to being booked for leaving the field of play. The stats back it up.

Skippy I will give you but I challenge you to provide a youtube clip of the Kok´s clearly diving ?

Raveheart35 - i love your phrase that boyd is 'disorientated by the presence of a football'

lol

Helicopter thursday.

TAKE THAT BACK.....My wee Henrik never.

Celtic_First said

"I for one believe there should be more gynaecologists involved in football."

and there is no place more appropriate as their workplace than Parks Murray and Ibrox

ANNAOAN

I didnt say Henrik dived as such....I suggested he went down easier than he should when in a position which we might benefit from a set piece.

Dont think we can say they are actively coached to dive......regardless of how obvious it may seem.

Under Martin O'Neill we were accused of the very same thing due to how effective we were from set plays.

Gents,
I think skippy has more upstairs than Boyd,Novo and co. Most of the fouls skippy wins are back to goal, whereas Boyd and novo just go down anywhere possible, prob more so running with the ball. The clip of Boyd's "where's the Sniper"...(a Wish,lol) VS Dundee Utd is because he is just plain lazy and cannot be arsed chasing a lost cause.We need to give skippy credit on chasing lost causes. Most Huns i speak to (from distance!!) know that Boyds a lazy bass and say he needs to be wiser instead of downright obvious at diving.

Over and Out
WGS

Helicopter Thursday,

I am saying that Rangers are actively coached to dive in the final third of the pitch. I´m also saying that it´s the only logical conclusion that anyone can come too who has watched Rangers play away regularly. The stats according to goals that they score from open play compared to free play and the number of free kicks awarded seem to back up what I am saying.

Hail Hail

WeeChrisMorris

I take your point and agree that Boyd expecially just throws himself to the floor regardless of whether anyone ois close to him.

Some players however play for the free kick and then fall as soon as contact is made.

That was my point....going over easily when it is possible to stay on your feet is still a form of simulation and becuase it is carried out by one of our own doesnt mean it is 'clever' rather than cheating.

Hutton was the worst offendor during his time at Ibrox for putting himself infront of the man and then deciding to stop running so the defender would barge into him.
In the rule book it is a free kick but it is still not good sportsmanship

Student Bhoy @ 12.31

I had family in that square on that night. They tell the same story only that it ended with hundreds of Celtic fans pointing at said ReaRangers fan and singing

"One Hun in Europe, theres only one Hun in Europe ...."

Smallworldcsc

Think Henrik took a dive for Thompson's missed penalty in the 2-0 Lyon game.

Awe_No_Annoni-Oan-Anaw-Noo

stands to reason what with Mc Coist having a significant influence on training that they would practise tipping over, someting he made a career out of. Personally plenty of Celtic men have and actively do it, as do a large majority of players today. Part and parcel of the game in my opinion. I didn't complain about Sunday's peno anyway!

hail hail

GordonJ

From earlier regards the butchers comments

I would be peed off

but as an ex Engerlund and Rankers captain and current assistant manager I would hope that I would

- rise above all that crap and maintain my professional dignity (to quote Kojo - Neva eva let them see it bothers you)
- Focus al my energies on getting him bak in the right way: on the frield of play with fair play

- and last but by no means least : check the zeros in my bank account and console myself that I got away with murder all those years and still made a packet

green vespa,

No I agree with you and Helicopter Thursday assertion about player going down easily when challenged. Rangers players do it when not even challenged and will only do it in the final third, there are subtle differences at play here based on the ease with which a free kick can be awarded, that´s really my point. I do believe that it is part and parcel of the normal modern game and I am with Paul Lamberts assertion on it that if we dont do it we are putting ourselves at a massive disadvantage. Naka also does it regularly

helicopter thursday

There is no denying that a lot of players go down very easily nowadays and Celtic players are no angels in this respect. the reason I showed clips of Rangers players diving is beacuse I am biased towards Celtic and will show Rangers players in a bad light if at all possible. That's part and parcel of being a football fan. We see the good in ours and the bad in all others.

However the SFA, media outlets etc should be impartial and should call it is when cheating is concerned. Mr Smith and a great number of Scottish newspapers made a big fuss about rooting out the evil in our game that is cheating after a Hearts player, dived to get a penalty against Scotland. He wasn't slow and highlighting this incident and demanding a change to the law to deal with cheats, yet when a number of high profile Rangers players have done similar, he and the media has been very quiet.

Mort

just watched the maradonna clip with the ball bhoy(adam brown) on BBC scottish news web page..(sound down cos i'm at work)

magic

what bugs me with Naka is that he's a soft target for people to say "ah he just fell over as usual" because of his stature. This leaves the door ajar for games like against Killie when players actively sought out Naka to hoof him one. That's not hard play, it's a dirty assult. Like wise in england, Arsenal vs Stoke was a disgrace in my book. The tackle which put Adebayor out wasn't even on the field of play. PS im not a disgruntled gooner, just thought the tackle was cowardly and ridiculous, but because it was Arsene's team it was acceptable.

anyone agree?

Treading water a bit these days, ghuys and ghals, but bear in mind I ain't been too well (still suffering btw).....

The Gate In The Wood continueth....

WG (looks at his moby in abject despair as he recognises the caller ID as belonging to Sir Fergus Alexanderson): Gemmell

FA: Winston ! I see your team is still fwying high at the summit of the SPL, four points ahead of Wangers

WG: Ten out of ten, Brother, you can't ask for better than that

FA: Quite. A wee bird intimated that you are expanding your business intwests, Winston.

WG: Whatever could you be thinking of Brother Fergus ?

FA: Cafe

WG: I trust your relationship is back on track

FA: Wike wabbits, Winston

WG: Perish the thought

FA: It's all down to her wecent dawwiance with...

WG: NAFOS ?

FA: No, awomafewapy

WG: Where do I come in here ?

FA: Word on the stweets of Gwasgow suggests you have access to the eternal fwame

WG: The eternal flame ? Ah'm good but Ah'm no that good, Brother

FA: Cafe needs a swow burner for her shwine to the Child of Pwague

WG: Good Lord

FA: It's in our bedwoom next to....

WG: No more details, Fergus. I'll get one to you F.O.C. if you promise never to call this number again

FA: If you send it by Wynx Dewivewy it's a deal.

WG: Goodbe, Brother Alexanderson

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Monday Club, Teser (WG missing on account of the tickled trout)

NAFOS: So how did the meeting with the bank go, Hugh ?

HR: Shooty-in - ten grand into the Richards account with barely a whimper of protest

SOAL: Well that's the Christmas party paid for, all we need's a decent venue

NAFOS: We'll get WG to speak to the Parish Priest and see if the chapel hall is available. Have we got a date in mind ?

SOAL: We traditionally have our festive soiree eftir the last hame gemme before Christmas - by my reckoning that's the 13th ay December, the day we play Hertz

HR: Duties and responsibilities then. I'll arrange the music - karaoke and disco. I'll also arrange the edibles fae The Pink Turban

SOAL: Ah'll sort the swally oot and reduce my arrangement cut to 5%

NAFOS: And Ah'll dae the invys. Are the girls from the bank up for a resumption of amour, Hugh ?

HR: Catriona and Boynita are keen to meet with you and WG again but said it would be better as part of a bigger gathering. The festive bash would appear to be the ideal occasion. The 13th is fairly early so it's unlikely to clash with any of the bank's Christmas nights oot. I think we've cracked it lads.

NAFOS: One other thing. Hugh, we need you to give us a few numbers - Ave Maria, Carol of The Bells, Oh Holy Night, that sort ay thing. The lassies love aw that stuff so git practisin'. I'll contact Long John Silver and get him to nobble the Monsignor fur the hall. It's gaunny bi a night tae remember.

TBC

Helicopter Thursday,

I agree with some of your points but i think players now act on poor sportmanship or honest stay on your feet stuff depending on who the official of their match is. How many times do we hear managers/players oh and the waistcoat asking for officials to be strong and questioning how many decisions they have not had and how they are now due so many.

Watching the highlights os Hibs vs Sheep on saturday just goes to show how honesty is now a big thing of the past. Aluko through on goal 2 mins into injury time, sheep 2-1 up and Aluko is hit for a stonewaller. The young "Ewe" stays on his feet and the keeper saves. Surely play brought back for his Good Sportmanship and a penalty awarded?. NO, play on and aberdeen go up the park and score from the resulting corner which they had won.

Aluko comments that the ref did not protect him and gave him nothing throughout the game so he stayed on his feet.

If you canny beat them, Join them!!!

Cheers
WGS

Mort

Fair play for being blatantly honest about your stance and I also fall into the green and white corner in these discussions, especially when I am having them with my less fortunate rivals.

However, when I am discussing it with like minded Hoops fans I see no reason to be overly biased.

The problem we have in Scotland is when someone obviously dives the powers that be are not effective enough at handing out retrospective punishment and putting an end to the matter.
Instead they let the papers print their garbage for days on end until the whole conspiracy theory is at its paranoid best.

The truth is that every tean has offenders and it just depends who is stupid enough to get caught each weekend. Sometimes it's Hearts, Hibs or Aberdeen players but they dont make the press so much more fun when it's a Celtic or Rangers player to make a song and dance about it.

If suitable punishment was dished out immediately the guilty would stop offending so regularly

Green Vepsa,

I think their is a dilemma within the modern game with regards skill versus power. I think MON demonstrated again at the weekend how much value he places on power. I think that WGS is very very slowly and very reluctantly learning this lesson. It is a difficult balance too strike.

Stoke (imho) kicked Arsenal off the park. I have to say though that compared to the Kilmarnock and the ICT games we played recently it wasn´t even in the same ball park.

HelicopterThursday

Im not being biased my friend as i have just used the sheep Sha**ers as a example!!!...never thought i would do that..lol.

WGS

WG -

The gout continues

Larsson

Helicopter Thursday,

My concern with retrospective judgements is that actually dives are often a great deal more subjective than that.

One man's dive - 'He made a right meal of that' - is another man's foul - 'There was definitely contact'...

I'd be deeply concerned about who was making those judgements...

B

WeeChrisMorris

Didnt mention you were being biased my friend!

Helicopter Thursday,
As long as we are still m8's?? :) :)

WCM

BromleyBhoy

That's a great point and subsequent retrospective judgements could cause more controversy that the original incident.

However, I would put myself forward to be on any such panel. Paul, can you delete my previous post about being biassed as I wouldn't want my application refused on a "technicality".

BromleyBhoy -

Those are Scott Booth's comments -

'He made a right meal of that' - when any Celtic player is hacked in two and takes more than 250 milliseconds gettign back onto what is left of his feet

'There was definitely contact' - when any Rangers player trips over a daisy or blade of grass, or get hit by a cuddly, fluffy little butterfly

Larsson

Bromley Bhoy

Very true and some decisions are almost impossible to call.
The main issue comes with the obvious dives which people tend to bring up again and again i.e. Boyd against Dundee Utd last season.

Surely a panel of ex-pros (Duffield excluded) could determine the blatant attempts more often than not.

WeeChrisMorris

Wasnt being smart there.......just realised my post might have came across like that - apologies.

WeeChrisMorris

Why do you sometimes sign off as WGS and other times as WCM. Do you have a multiple personality disorder?

Mort

BromleyBhoy,

That Booth guy has made me nearly wreck my tv on many occassions.

I went to the game on sunday and Hartley's finish was superb. It looked tough to play a 1-2 with Skoosh when you are surrounded by 9 defenders and the keeper to beat but not to mention the fact you still need to finish on the volley with control from 16 yards 4 minutes from time.

That idiot's assessment was that he couldn't miss!! EH?. On boyds goal 16 yards out vs Killie he say's thats was a superb goal in difficult circumstance when boyd was faced with only the keeper to beat!!!. Pretty sure it should have been the other way about.

Im pretty sure this guy missed his fair few over the years..

HUN WITHOUT THE BUS FARE!!!!

MORT,

Oooopppps
Can i book an appointment to see you?. I see you may have unearthed a condition i may have...lol.

Mort the pyschologist MBE MCE MBCE :) :)

When it comes to Maradona populism always tends to go mad.

The guy has a religious movement following him, when he played for Barcelona he had an entourage on his payroll of over 100 people that meant he accummulated no money for later years (basically hangers on, but he paid them nonetheless) and even though he underwent tests and treatment for heart problems caused by his cocaine addiction, being 44 and having been retired for 7 years there were Napoli fans who organised a petition to have hime reurn to Napoli...in a playing capacity!!

And we debate the return of Henrik? Nonsense, get Frank McGarvey back!

Helicopter Thursday,

Also... I've seen players who are clearly impeeded when faced with a goal scoring opportunity... Just because the player fails to make contact because another decides he'd rather not have his leg broken... Is that a foul? Should be as it's dangerous play... but you'd be amazed at the number of commentators who'd say there was no contact therefore no foul.

Take another example... Brown clean through on Rangers goal.. tugged back... keeps his feet... no foul.... Even though denied goal scoring opportunity... Commentators agree this correct.. eh?
Instead he goes down.. gets penalty... some commentators will immediatley point out he didn't need to and it was a dive...

Who is correct?

Hate to say it... definitely leave it to the referee for me.

B

WCM

You have come to the right place. There are many posters on this site with mutiple personalities.

A clique should be established for all those.

Oops, have I just started the clique debate again.

Mort (who has never been invited to join any cliques)

I think the advantage rule in football, is begining sometimes to be just about right, and we shouldn't get confused with the advantage rule for rugby. In football, if you get fouled in the box and stay on your feet and get a shot on goal there is (in my opinion) only 2 outcomes, 1) An immediate penalty as soon as you are fouled 2) Play the advantage, there isn't a 3rd option of let the play go on, if they miss the goal then bring it back for a penalty. Rugby differs as it is a penalty and signalled as such, as the advantage they are playing is that the team in possesion may put themselves in a position to score a try plus a conversion for 7 pts rather than kick a penalty for 3pts.

BlantyreKev,

Franks too fit for the present regime ;-)

Bromley,

Of course there are grey areas as there are with all things football related hence the massive amount of discussions it provokes.

I agree on both fronts that the 2 circumstances described are fouls and should result in pens.

A retrospective panel would not judge on what isnt given as it's impossible to change the result after the game.
They can only judge on cheats who blatantly dive........very similar to the video panel who bring people to task for violent conduct not seen by the ref or for Artur's blessing himself or 1 fingered salutes!!!

Need to sign off now guys as hometime here in Baku.
Will read through the posts tomorrow morn

@ Green Vespa

the thing that stands out for me about that stoke arsenel game is that van persie was sent off and another arsenel player should have went to. Wenger is a moaner, end of

.

MPD Alert MPD Alert MPD Alert....

o1NYCMPD

The BIG game this week, not counting Saturday, is Munster v's the All Blacks.
Not a hotel bedroom to be got for a radius of 20 miles from the centre of Limerick.
30,000 visitors in the city bars this evening, and me off the feckn drink.

if we dont like booth(AND I DONT) then why done we all contact setanta and tell them, anyone got a email address for setanta

Noticed Pedro Mendes parking his car (Range Rover) in town as I was heading for lunch. Didn't pay much attention to it until heading back to the office when I noticed the registration - won't give full registration but, the last three (separated) letters were BJK.

Coincidence or, if company vehicle, deliberate?

ParanoiarulesCSC

@ CaltonTongues

BJK???

BJK???

Agree the bold Diego is a mad choice, and it will never work in the long term....but...what a man and talent.

The finest footballer the world has ever seen - and that includes Pele and Gregor Stevens.

I read his book last year and it's worth a read, even though he's undeniably aff his heid.

When he was with Barca, he fell out big time with the President. They refused to let him attend his pal's testemonial (Paul Breitner) so he went straight to their trophy room and started smashing glass ornaments until they said he could go.

(taking "chucking the toys oot the pram" to a new level)

His spirituality (but not religion) is a big thing for him and he only evers refers to God as "the beard".

Don't think his 2nd goal v England will EVER be bettered at that level of football.

By the way, thanks Curly for comments on previous article.

Lutly75.

CaltonTongues

I can see the headline in the papers tomorrow:

Celtic Internet Bigots target Rangers star's Car

Since publishing Nacho Novo's address on the internet a few weeks ago, vile Celtic supporters have continued their campaign of hatred against Ranger's players. A Celtic website published the registration number and make and model of SPL Player of the Year elect Pedro Mendes car.

Mendes was said to be "shocked" and Rangers have provided the midfield superstar with round the clock security as they try to stave off an attack similar to that which happened to fellow Ger Alan mcgregor's bently earlier in the season.

More to follow...

lurgan80

no disputing wenger is a moaner, the man who sees nothing! howver what griped with me was the lack of pointing out on match of the day how bad the challenge on Adebayor was. Don't know the defender but he walked away like he was a hard man carrying two imaginary suitcases. A player is neither hard, nor clever hitting a man from behind, any clown can do that.

Larosn

On Booth. Well spotted. I heard those comments myself and thought Whaaaaa?

Calton 2pm,
If that story is genuine then it's one for the tabloids to run with. Absolutely shocking. I suspect Mr Mendes is unaware of the significance though and it's the work of either a mischievous car salesman or Rangers FC employee. If the former then I expect no better from that mob, if it is the latter then they should be taken to task for it big style.

Staying silent on the BJK chants is one thing, actively propagating them should result in the scum being sufficiently hammered.

@ Green Vespa
I understand what youre saying friend, but Wenger did not once, to my recollection, admonish his own players, instead he insisted on deriding the stoke players for their physicality

Tamstered

If you go on Setanta website there is an email address for complaints. Don't hold your breath though, I complained about him and got the standard email back. I hate the guy with a passion. He was a waste of space when he played and is a bigger one now but what annoys me most is he doesn't even say what he sees, he just makes it up. Watching Motherwell game last week as couldn't make it to Parkhead, Booth was commenting toward the end of the game as to how tired the Rangers players looked because they have played a lot of games recently...........what??? This was followed by Ian Crocker comparing their run of games to the end of last season. All this because they had to play Dundee Utd midweek after the game was postponed. They must be delighted they were put out of Europe.

Ramie, thanks for the update on Kano. Tell him his ‘crazy man’ pic has been doing the rounds recently!

O1bhoy, sorry.

Provocative "H", I hear that McCoist is ready to step into the mantle, which would be a cause for mild celebration in these parts.

Tamstered,

Myself and my m8 complained to setanta a couple of years ago about Dumb and Dumber aka, Hateley and Jock Brown (nose). We never received a response but again e-mailed again and again until we recieved a reply saying they had reviewed many comments made by many football fans and had decided to appoint Ina Crocker as the new commentator for setanta for the SPL games.

Thought that was good news but the pairings of Crocker/Booth and Crocker/Burley dare i say it, may just be on a par with Dumb and Dumber!!!.

1 more point. Charlie Nichol"ass" pandering to that mouserless curly headed men against boys Greame Souness on sky tv just brought the message home that he is so two faced. On donati's goal vs Shaktar on ITV he is seen jumping about punching windows when we scored. He is in the studio with JIM REDWHITENBLUE. When he's on the show for sky he has not a good word to say. Is he s*it scared of souness or what??....ANY THOUGHTS??.

WCM

maybe its just me but I think you're being a wee bit harsh on Crocker and Booth, I've heard from a lot of guys I know who are Aberdeeen men that Booth certainly favours us over them and, again maybe its just me, but Crocker seems almost on the edge of climax when we score most of the time, and to be honest who can forget the immortal line 'Henrik Larsson!....That was SENSATIONAL!'

Lets face it would you rather have Jock the lodge Brown and Hateley instead?

DD

madra rua 1.59pm

Wish I was in Tom and Jerry's for that one.

Let's hope for a repeat of 1978!

Up Munster!!!

aloneitstands csc

AwNaw:

That article by Britney does make you stop and think for a moment. If PLG had been given cash and had taken the league would Minty have been in a position to sell? Could we have been facing an invigorated Rangers on and off the park?

WGS' second season was easily the poorest of the 3 so far in terms of quality football but looking at it in those terms it could have been the most important of them all.

My own view is that 3 in a row was the most important as the whole dark side movement would have been awash with No-Surname mania and the press would have exploded in a huge disgusting ball of fawning, sycophantic drooling. To come from a potential 12 points behind to snatch the league while they battered Lancashire's finest at the UEFA Cup final has to be one of the sweetest victories we have ever tasted over them.

Craiginho

Need-to-stop-watching-the-title-run-in-video-on-Youtube CSC

wee chris morris

again I think Champagne Charlie just feels gutted when we are totally outclassed as we were against Man U lets not kid ourselves. We can't expect pundits to wear green tinited spectacles all the time he was only voicing his dispair as many fans on here did at the manner in which we got beat.

We got ripped apart against Man U did you want him to sit there and say 'we were unlucky there we had them on the ropes so we did'.

Sometimes you just need to be honest and I think Charlie is as hoenst as they come in the press when talking about Celtic.

DD

I agree with donegaldanny about Ian Crocker,(less so about Scott Booth though). Crocker has never seemed pro them anti Celtic and his commentary in the 6-2 game adds to the fun of watching it again (and again)immensely.

Lurgan80

I told u regarding Wenger "I c nothing!" when it's about his own players! Played a local Lurgan team there two wks ago it the prestigious Lonsdale league. Never saw as many wayne rooney look alikes in my life.

i too had heard mc coist was being jockeyed up as heir to the throne.

hail hail

Donegaldanny,
I think even Terry Hurlock and Greame Roberts would have been better than Hateley n Brown!!!. When Crocker was with sky tv he was pretty good,maybe because he was with x pro's who were half decent players as oppossed to Scott "1 peg" Booth.

Just on Greame Roberts, I have heard that Albert Craig is suing Roberts for his remarks about him in his new book "once a tosser always a tosser". I have been informed that his lawyers are trying to stop the book being sold!!. Nice one Albert.

WCM

Wg A Cure

Running out of time at the library. So just a quick note to again thank everyone for their input. The reach of Celtic is unparalleled.

If you have any comments or just inquisitive, I've set up a temporary blog at

http://wereontheoneroad.blogspot.com/

Meanwhile off to buy a world map and some pins!

Thanks again

Matt

DD,

Charlie Nicholas is an Uncle Tom. The guy loves the "Old Firm". It gives him a sustainable income. He´s a knee jerk reactionary type who offers zilch in the way of constructive criticism. He rarely offers any kind of punditry on Glasgow Rangers. Why ?
The only two Scottish teams that he feels qualified to comment on are Celtic and Scotland.

Charlie Nicholas biggest problem is that he´s thick. Really thick.

Paul,

Not a fan of Maradona's managerial skills then?

CC

Paul67

You seem reasonably sure McCoist would not be a success if he took the top job at Ibrox.

I,d be interested as to know why you think this??

For the record I would have no idea whether McCoist would/would not be a successful manager, I,m just curious as to where your belief stems from.

Hail Hail Roccobhoy.

awe naw

Did Charlie dump in your handbag? :-) Not his biggest fan are you?
Was only trying to offer a possible reason!

DD

DD,
I agree we were on the ropes at paradise and i never wear the green tinted specks but the remarks of "McDonald is poor and has been of the boil"!!!!, after his world class finish and the shift the wee Aussie actually put in that game just made me think he was actually jealous of the boys goal in that game.

In the same game he states that Brown was a headless chicken at stages in the game and that fletcher was head and shoulders above the rest. Personally i think brown has been quite composed of late and this showed in the man utd game. I didn't think fletcher was united's best player but his comments a pretty crazy at times. We know the quality of player is superior comparing the 2 squads the gulf is huge in the 2 respctive league's but he needs to have at least some acknowledgement at the fact we battled, scrapped and almost pulled of another momentus night at paradise. Sure we were pleased with the point as most of us expected nothing but telling us, souness, redknapp, guillet and millions watching OVER and OVER again that we were outclassed makes my blood boil!!. We know we were passed to death and all but the only half decent comment that was made all night was by Ruud Guillet who said Nicholas and Souness were being harsh!!. Say's it all for me.

Murdo McLoed, David Provan, Andy Walker, Charlie Nicholas call it as it is. Derek Johnstone, Billy Doods, Greame Souness also call it as it is but go that extra mile to show some sort of gratitude to pulling on the jeresey of the club they have played for. In my opinion we do not have that element from the above mentioned x players.

WCM

DD,

he´s an embarrassment to Celtic in every single way. I appreciate you playing the role of devils advocate but be rest assured you drew the longest straw with that role

wee chris morris

Agree on Walker and McLeod but don't mind Nicholas and Provan, Craig Burley is the worst of our ex players if you ask me, can't stand him!

Main point is like us they are fans (with the exception of Burley) and get frustrated like the rest of and Charlie gets noticably annoyed that we can't compete at that level.

Awe Naw

Whatever he says after games I don't think you can call him an embarrassment to celtic thats a wee bit harsh, jesus we've been embarrassed by far worse than him! :-)

DD

I note the comments on diving in football.

To be honest, its part and parcel of the game and always has been. The Latin Americans and Southern Europeans look upon it as an act of cunning - 'vivezza' I believe they call it.

I'm a strong proponent of the Paul Lambert theory on this. In Europe especially, we put ourselves at a massive disadvantage by not practicing the dark arts. Seville is the perfect case study where only one man had the savvy to try and match the Portuguese - Henrik Larsson. Henrik more than took his fare share of unassisted tumbles because he was smart and knew what had to be done.

I also recall what Kenny Dalglish said when Brian Clough accused him of taking a dive to win a penalty. Kenny said to Clough that his defender had two previous kicks at him so at the third attempt Kenny decided it was probably better to go down.

I'd rather Celtic win the league on the last minute of the last game of the season with a Gary Caldwell hand-ball rather than a repeat of 2003 where 'sportsmanship' got us nothing.

I see kenny missers bentley also
received a coat of acid at the weekend
in Bishopbriggs

Craiginho, it is difficult to name many more important league titles in our history than this year’s. 1966, certainly, 1998, definitely and 2000, possibly, but this year’s tops the rest in my book.

Captain Crosas, the point is... Maradona’s managerial skills have yet to be identified. This being the case, why give him the top job in the country, especially when you consider the circus?

Roccobhoy, those who know a thing or two... tell me McCoist is in line for the job.

Donegaldanny, I recall our triumphant return to Celtic Park in 1995. On Sky TV, Nicholas commented that it was an awful state (only two stands were up) and that Celtic would have been much better building a 40,000 seater stadium they could fill.

It was a totally needless and opportunistic put-down on a proud day for so many of us who had paid our £620 (or more) a year earlier.

Arthur -

£20 ?

TESER

donegaldanny,

Picture this.

The country is being ravaged by Thatcherism.
Unemployment is at an all time high.
The miners and many others are on strike.
We have lost the league to Aberdeen

But Charlie Nicholas is the best young player playing for Celtic since Kenny Dalglish.

So what does Charlie do he starts making noises about moving from Celtic...now that´s bad enough ...but to get up on a milk float dressed in brown leather trousers, earring, white socks and loafers, microphone in hand urging the people of Maryhill to vote for Margaret Thatcher about five weeks before he left Celtic and about one week before a general election told me all about the guy I needed to know. He earned his money that day

btw Skippy scores another 14 goals and he will have scored more goals for Celtic than Nicholas did at Arsenal in four years. In fact his strike rate might even be better than Nicholas at Celtic also

Booth, what an excrement excreeting orifice.
Two or three weeks ago, was it ? when the supporters sang TBOTOB,
Booth turned his microphone to the crowd and stopped comentating, at the time I thought this was a reasonable complaint to setanta, in that he is there as a football comentator and not a social comentator, obviously setanta are happy with any comentating he manages to stammer out.
Booth has an agenda.

DD,
NO probs,
Slaughtering Skippy on his performance that night was the lowest of lows though. Sure it wasn't a superb performance but the goal and the shift he put in made him a less likely candidate for stupid comments.

I dont know Nicholas record in European football but 1 memory i do have of him was i was in the jungle for Celtic vs N/Xamax (Poor spelling sry) for the 2nd leg after we were hammered 5-1 in the 1st leg in switzerland. Im pretty certain we scored early doors and had been given a penalty after 15 minutes and Nicholas stepped up and nearly killed a pigeon in the celtic end( no 4) area.

We won the game 1-0 and had the chance to do something and charlie let us down. These things happen in football. Did he not miss a pen in the Raith Rovers embarrasment at Mordor?.

Last point,

I have never heard Bertie Auld, Jim Craig, Tommy Gemmell and all the other legends really slaughtering our team or individual performance whether it be Premier League or Champions League.

2 words
Lacking Class.

WCM

No more on Nic for me ma heeds Bustin. :)
Iv'e

IN DEFENCE OF AWE NAW

Remember his (nicholas)little comment , regarding singing of fields of athenry with that idiot jim white.
disgusting, how could so called Celtic fan say that.

Hi bhoys, just a thought re the hand of god at Paradise last night, My fav celtic song of all time this may well include MARADONA after all most of the football greats have passed through parkhead gates and bhoy was he one of the "GREATS" Paul do you know why Argentina were training at PARKHEAD last night? ps Imagine ARGENTINA asked to train at Murray Park the HUN & the DAILY RANGER whould both have had a 20 page spread.

Is that commenting or comentating.

lostbhoy csc

I think Sally McCoistyCoist would be favorite to replace McWatty as Grand Moff at the Death Star (sorry I watched Star Wars on Sunday evening). Whether or not he'd be any good we'd have to wait and see, but to the best of my knowledge, he's only ever been managed by managers that bought success, and let's face it, they're not flush.

awe naw & paul67

Fair enough! won't be sticking up for champagne again!

DD

Nicholas=clown

Crocker= good commentator

Booth= trying to keep a job. His opinion counts for zero.

If football players drove less flash cars, they would blend into the background, unless, of course, they adopted provocative number plates!!

Joe Parkhead, as far as I’m concerned, the whole Scotland v Argentina game was a scam on the part of the Argentina FA who were pandering to their players demands that they get to train on Celtic Park and insisted that the SFA paid for the whole jolly.

Donegaldanny, Awe Naw, I’d actually blocked out the ‘canvassing for Thatcher’ memory.

TTT - I know what you're getting at, but players shouldn't have to blend into the back ground. But if it was Kenny Misser's car, or as somebody very aptly put it, the footballer formerly known as "Boo", then it could have been anyone that did it. In saying that I have an alibi.

Awe Naw and Thom the tim......you know me better than I do myself. Absolutely got me bang to rights and was nothing to do with dumping in handbags cause I always manged to get Provan blamed for those excellent pranks.

Paul/gerry/steve/george.

If you are the ones that received an e-mail from kit,I was at Celtic Park and done the errand today.I'm just letting you know.

I had other business in Glasgow so carried on to CP.

"you know me better than I do myself"

Charlie as I said before that wouldn´t be difficult ;-)

I can't remember every half wit who jumped on my bandwagon in the late 70's and early 80's...at least certainly not now. However I do recall a very badly dressed footballer with a Scottish accent who seemed even more clueless than all the other refugees from the working class (apart from Cilla obviously) who bathed in my lucifer light.

If I remember,that is one of the few times I ever saw that particular half wit wearing socks at all.

Oh how they all dropped their loyalties just to be associated with me. I found that these repulsive class traitors were the most useful to me since they had some credibility amongs the unwashed whence they came (apart from Cilla obviously..oh, and Lulu).

Maggie,
Lol :) :)

Margaret I am honoured that you remember me and do me the honour of deeming me half a wit. You are too kind by far though and Thom the Tim is far more accurate in his assessment. I am an idiot with neither a sense of loyalty nor honour.

Not an "Uncle Tom", but Cesar's comments re, NL recently were shocking. If he can (occasionally) stick the knife in like that, what chance have we got and I'm pretty sure('cos I don't read said rag) that he also miss-called THG.

Oldtim67, good Mhan, any chance of sharing the cost (as if !!!???)

pablophanque

Just Read x Rankers player Butcher looking to be locked in a room alone with Maradona!!. Bet he could still meg him in a phone box with a beach Baw!!.

I do recall Butcher making big noise in a newspaper that Artur Boruc "lacked class" and was "totally unproffesional" in the wake of the 3-0 shambles at the end of last year at Mordor when he failed to tickle the opposing players elbows with mason handshakes.

Im sure Artur wanted to go 1 on 1 with Nedcho Novor or Wee Fud Ferguson but im pretty sure if he commented on this desire to the tabloids then the SFA would announce that there would be an enquiry??. Gordon Smith, will you be having a closed doors chat with the assistant manager of scotland?.....Dont think so.

Come on Terry, Forgive and Forget. lol

Hello there Leo here

With regard to Maradonna, it is terrific that he is back in football and I look forward to see him playing at "Hampers" against the Scottish Select XV.(You thought I was going to get him mixed up with Madonna, didn't you. I know you all think you know more about the Celtics than I do, but wait until the quiz night and I'll show you).

I worry about the number of players from the Celtics that could get injured. One thing it does prove is that the Celtics are better than the forces of dampness because they've got hardly any players in the Scottish squad. They're just not good enough not even that Sassy Papal.

Hail hail hail

Dailymail website stating Celtic will launch a january bid for Craig Bellamy, think he would be an excellent signing and would give us the pace we've been crying out for up front IF he could stay fit and I grant you its a big if.

McGeady Bellamy Samaras and Maloney, even the best teams would find that daunting! Robson Hartley Crosas Brown (pick any two) to support them! I think I need to sit down for a minute....

DD

Mickeybhoy@3:29

It was probably a Ran**rs fan. They dislike him more than we do!

Charlie Nicholas never had a fair word to say about us since Wee Fergus sent his mate Brian Dempsey up the road with a well scalped arse. Fergus saw right through Dempsey's rhetoric. He was a man of little substance just like the boul Charlie. They're well met

Just watched a live streaming of Diego Maradona press conference and in my opinion, and I realise he may be "talking the talk", but it would appear he knows what it takes to manage his country.

As many have already stated here today, the transition from player to manager can be difficult.

From what he has just said however, I feel if he is given the chance to do his job properly without interference, Argentina can be back at the top table in 2010, with the media circus in tow as well...

Paul67,

Durrant or Gough to be his assistant

From last thread……………….

Zbyszek……………………..

Apologies for not getting back earlier……..

Had some things to take care of…………………

Thanks again for the INFO……….

I think his is more attack minded, which is what we NEED

WeeChrisMorri…………………………………..

Not sure but in one of Zbyszek links

I seen Euro 2,000000 mentioned………….

Which is about right for US…………………

BigJoeWhoWanysCeltiv2lookAt SemirStilic

DD,
No doubt Bellers is a class act. But for me he has had more hammy pulls than Kieron Dyer and i think the wages would be best spent on a player that would play 90% of games from Jan till the end of the season. I he wasn't so injury prone i would take him in a heartbeat.

WCM

roccobhoy - Just my opinion, but I think McCoist would be a terrible manager and to appoint him would be the worst decision rangers could make. I’d love it.

He wants to be a nice guy too much, wants to be everybody’s best pal. Plus he’s a joker which I imagine makes it hard for the players to take him seriously. Just watch what happens to similar characters like Zola at West Ham, or Adams at Portsmouth. These guys make perfect assistant managers, as they act as a foil for the more hardline manager, the good cop/bad cop routine. But to appoint them manager will normally prove disastrous.

weechrismorris

Granted thats what would worry me, but I think he'd take a pay cut as he always stated his family were celtic minded, but who could we get anywhere near as quick and talented as him elsewhere? Think we'd find it very very difficult. What a strike force that would be though! remeniscent of thom, di canio, pierre and cadette!

DD

Sons of Erin,

If Paul's info is correct, it merely underlines the market they are trawling in to find their next Messiah.

I can't think of anyone remotely credible who would consider accepting the poisoned beaker, can't afford a chalice, that will be on offer at that place.

Perhaps someone could draw up a shortlist of unsuitable candidates that would help the Receivers in their task.

DD,
Tha fact the guy is on youtube singing the fields of athenrye swings it for me. LEGEND. If we can get what he gave us when he came then that would be magic. Dont count skippy out as although they would lack height i think the Skippy and Bellers would make up for that just on pace strength and intelligence. I think Bellers could do a job behind Skippy/Samaras or Skippy/JVH. The workrate alone giving Bellers a free role would cover any defensive arguments.

WCM

Nepotic link to another view of Terry's antipathy towards Diego.

http://www.tv3.ie/blogs.php?locID=1.3&pagename=sport

donegaldanny

don't want to burst your bubble but thom, di canio, pierre and cadete may have been super players but won nowt.

Speaking of Charlie Nicholas supporting Thatcher in the early 80s...another footballer of the time did that too - David O Leary. Let's hope neither of them ever have anything to do with Celtic!

Not necessarily because of their support for Thatcher (as much as I disagree with them it is a free country and you can vote for / support who you want) but they're both shallow, mercenary and vindictive @rses!

Panda Hands @ 1:05 PM

yeah, that rings a bell.
he was getting absolute pelters anyway

it certainly wasn't as nice as that from us lot who were in Piper's bar. lol

:-)

Mort

Yes granted, but I think that had more to do with players like Morten Weighorst, Gordon Marshall, Malky Mackay, Stewart Kerr, Stuart Gray, Simon Donnelly, john Hughes, Brian O'Neil not exactly the strongest squad but then again Brian Laudrup and Andy Goram had something to do with it aswell.

DD

I see Maradona doesn't care too much about what Butcher has to say about him.

This is a cracking line from the argentine genius as well - "England won a World Cup with a goal that never crossed the line, so it's not fair that people should judge me."

Thomthetim,
Just read the link.
will be like the player of the year awards
Think they should play Bryan Adams please forgive me over the Tannoy tomorrow night....lol :) .

I take it the 27,500 tickets sold for the game (half the capicity) is all down to the "never forgive" attitude of the manky mob!!.

I wonder if it will be like the player of the year awards.....no rangers contingency. :)

WCM

Mort

Whats Spanish for "tit for tat!?

On Bellamy, can we aford his wage demands ?
Will he behave in the dressing room ?
are the only two questions I have, if both are agreeable, then I'd take him in a flash, but cant see the wage demands being within our structure, I reckon he still expects in the region of £50K.

Maradona -

"If people are fine with me, I'll greet them," added Maradona.

"Let Butcher get on with his life and I'll get on with my life.

"I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. If Butcher doesn't shake my hand, I'll still be alive tomorrow."

Priceless.

To return to the Kenny Dalglish debate. I remember at the the telling a pal, who was full of the dream team that I thought we were making a terrible mistake. Not because of Kenny'S record (or John Barnes utter lack of one) but because Dr Venglos was a good manager and we should persevere with him.

Charlie Nicholas is an idiot and worse, an idiot pandering to the lowest dregs of the Ibrox hordes to keep himself in a job. Booth is simply an embarrasment, trying to appease the same crowd.

Craig Bellamy strikes me as a dodgy hamstring too far.

Re footballer's supporting Thatcher, I think that the majority did, albeit not as publicly as the 2 people memtioned above. The exceptions were people like Pat Nevin, Brian McClair, Michael Robinson and Don Givens. Paul Jewell said that,as far as he knew, he was thw only Labour voter in the Liverpool squad (he obviously forgot about Robinson). I would be astonished if Alan Hansen was not a supporter of Thatcher and,sadly, I think the same about Dalglish.

I remember Brian McClair being interviewed in the NME after he'd gone to Man U and talking about music and politics...how him and "wee Pat" shared a taste for indie music and left wing politics. All other footballers, of course, had taken the induction course and had learned to play golf, ate steak and chips, listened to Abba, Phil Collins and Tina Turner and watched Minder. Oh the 80's !

.

Jail for Hospital Racist....

o1bhoy

I thought Terry B would leap at the chance to shake Maradona's hand- after all he didn't exactly get close to him in '86!

Parkheadcumsalford- did you get up to Cleator Moor?

I don't think Diego was ever in the pro-Maggie camp, but he may have liked ABBA.

Let's hope they didn't treat him before he starts his 3 months and he bleeds out....I was going to say "and the wound turns septic" but there's probably more poison inside him than outside. Please God, let him be a hun.

Pablophangue.

Not at all.I'll just put your names down and post it off.

I tried to get a Seville Poster but they were sold out,my next choice was a team photo,but they were sold out,So the third choice was a Photograph taken from the corner of the Lisbon Lion Stand of the crowd in north stand,I'm not sure what game it is the opposition are all in red,I think it must be Aberdeen as it's an afternoon game,I think?.

I also got a "you'll never walk alone scarf"as I thought it was appropriate because he isn't on his own,wer'e all there for him.

And I also got an 12"x8" photo of the current sqaud.

My only problem now is packing them for posting,Not a job that I'm very good at,the poster will be the problem,it's rolled up like a tube,If I thought I could get away with folding it up,that would make it much easier.

I'll have to get a card,I'll put your names down and if anyone else wants to add their name just call out.

DBBIA, let's face it, everybody liked Abba, it's just that you couldn't possibly admit it at any time in the 20th Century (everybody except me that is).

Do you think that Diego ever showed public support(obviously not in an election campaign) for Galtieri (leather trousers, loafers, no socks...?)

Regarding Charlie:
The boy can't help himself and he did have a very good career at Celtic - for 21 months.

Then he appeared on 'Youth for Thatcher' with his friend, Kenny Everett. (This was probably the real pinnacle of his media career.)

A bad man then gave him money to go to Highbury where another bad man - Don Howe - turned him into the second best left back in the history of Arsenal reserves.

Aberdeen generously gave the boy a chance to return to first team football. Their manager, Alex Smith, tried hard to explain Charlie's lacklustre performances by saying things like, 'You should see him in training.' It was embarrassing.

Draw a veil over CN's Celtic career part 2. I'm sure he was never as unfit or defeatist as the dismal Jimmies maintained.

Charlie was subsequently groomed for media greatness by McNee - he of Jimmy McGrory medal fame.

I wish Charles well. I hope he continues to grovel to the right people on television. I wish him more success with his licensed trade ventures than he has had to date.

But I do wish that Celtic fans would see through him.

See Albourg mayor has extended a big welcome to the best football support in the world, wonder if it will be reported in the wee free press ?

mort did pierre not score the winner against airdrie to win something?

.

Cadizzy....

Modern Swedes are Defiantly NOT Rubbish....

o1freida&agathaCSC

Martin 47, do I detect a slight exaggeration?

"I wish Charles well".

My God, posting to people who taught me history over 30 years ago (outed you as an auld hand)

I didnt know Charlie was in the Sonderkommand,learn something everyday!

Pretty serious news story brewing involving a Lanarkshire and a Glasgow based footballer and hopefully not involving anyone at Celtic. More when I can confirm (which is likely to be after the old media have published as my contacts only stoop so low).

Paul,
Hope it's not Aiden....Doh...I said last night i would say no more!!.

On a serious note i hope it is not. Must be mad shagger McGreggor!!

WCM

Paul67,
has it anything to do with Bolton ?

I haven't had time to read back through the news, however I have never held any ill feeling towards Charlie Nic. One of my childhood memories of him was when we played Aberdeen in the Cup Final in the never ending penalty kicks. He clearly could not bring himself to take a kick and was basically the last person to take one in sudden death. On scoring he couldn't even bring himself to celebrate. That said a lot to me.

I think he's always done ok by us in the media. Certainly better that Provan turned out to be. If we're talking McNee wanabees then he's yer man.

Hail Hail
Jamiebhoy

Paul67,

Bazza ?

.

Canamalar....

Bolton is in Lancashire.... ;o))))

o1bhoy

Maybe Mcgregor and Ferguson playing out the part in pulp fiction with barry THE GIMP, the taker!!. Pool ball in mouth the works!! :)

WCM

paul67.

You'll have to give us a clue,or this site will go into meltdown.

o1bhoy,
yep I know, but being down here I get the local gossip, and a very serious event happened down here and was ignored.
Hail Hail

Canamalar,
What happened down your way?

WCM

.

Paul67....

Has McCarthy & Aiden been Told to Go Home.... from the Republic Squad....????

o1bhoy

01bhoy,

I was under the impression that Aiden did not travel??.
I also thought McCarthy was not in the squad??

WCM

Cadizzy

Did you know someone from ABBA as well?

Interesting story about Jewell. The exact same happened to Steve Perryman when playing for Spurs in the late 70's/early 80's. He was interviewed by a reporter for a quality Sunday paper. The journalist asked him who he voted for and Perryman replied,"Labour. Doesn't everyone?" Needless to say, he then discovered to his shock and amazement that all his teamates had voted Tory at the '79 election. Perryman had assumed that footballers, being normally from the working class, would all be natural Labour supporters. He wasn't the only one who made that assumption.

OK……….Paul…………………….67

Oooooooooooooooooooot with it

????????????????????????????

BigJoeWhoWants2Know

Vinny_bhoy off dey see CHRISTY MOORE TONITE have u any special requests ? maybe back home in DERRY .

Paul

Loged on for the first time since this morning to see your post at 5.34. Obviously I don't know what the news is but I'm worried that you don't know for sure it's not someone from Celtic.

I suppose it gives us a bit of late transfer window like tension to perk up a usual Tuesday night!

Hoopeddreams Aye...I know all four of them and I wrote all their songs making me fabulously wealthy. I am godfather to the dark haired one and I was married to the other one but she left me for the bassist in Department S.

Re Paul Jewell, a few years ago when Eck left Rangers (not sacked), Jewell got mentioned as a possible successor to which he replied along the lines of "That's all very well but wait 'til they ask me what school I went to"

Paul 67 - Is this news story to do with a certain list thats been leaked on the web!!

If so I can already see a name that is linked with Rangers and Celtic for that matter!!

Still checking the list....

Cahrlie Nicholas went to my school and was always a big Celtic fan.

Unfortunately he realised that his unique talent for using 3 tenses in every sentence was only popular when having a pop at Celtic.

Like his choice of club when going to Arsenal, his opinions ae often strange.

CAS,
What's on the list m8?

WCM

the list has been on other web sites today, it's the membership of the BNP/NF.

Any chance of YOU grownUps letting the kids know what’s going on

Lists………………………………………………..

Celtic and rangers………………………

Can't they do anything bad without dragging us in2 it?

BigJoeWhoHATESstuffLikeTHIS

Drat……………………..

That list………………………

Double drat……………………….

I think I am on that list…………….oooooops

BigJoeWhoNEEDS2changeIdentity

Big Joe, what made you change your mind about going back mate if you don't mind me asking and if you are, when are you likely to be heading off 'cos if it's not soon, yeh'll miss crimbo wid da family :o(

pablophanque

Pablophangue.

Did you clock my post to you.

Hello....................

.............is anyone there???

We wanna know what's going on!!!!!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/one-in-four-scots-admits-racism-643652.html

Found the list, away to have a dig!

Pablophanque…………………………..

I am just home M8

Heading back on the 9th……………..

So I miss EVERYTHING…………………..

The lot…………………………………..

But that is like in a hard hat……………..

The wife and kids like it when I am away………….

They get the T.V. remote ; - )

BigJoeWhoHOGGGGGGGStheRemote

would be interesting to note what the stats are 6 years later ?

I have to say until any news breaks would it not be very dangerous (legally speaking) to put any details on the blog? I for one won't be posting anything on this subject on here in case Paul could end up in bother.

That is assuming the news Paul is talking about is this subject.

Porridgeandbananas,
Fair play m8. Just tell us where to go to find the info??

Cheers
WCM

Sorry I wont be able to answer any direct questions as I am heading 2 the pub, eh library.

bigJoeTheBOOKworm

ot, your first one that I replied to, or your one about having to wrap everything up ?

BTW, my mate's wife flies to Sydney and Perth with BA quite often so I'll find out if she's due there soon and I'll get back to you. Could save you the bother of having to wrap it up but well done again for getting everything and I'm surprised more people don't want their name on your card !

pablophanque

Pablophangue.

I'm going to buy a card but it's not from me personally,I can't forge signatures but I can print your nom de plumes aka Pablophangue?.
When's your next adventure up the road,If it's within three weeks I'm looking for a favour.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/nov/18/bnp-membership-list-leak

The Guardian has the story Paul mentioned.

WCM

another Celtic forum that has got a lot of bad publicity lately (Novo, thomson) is where I read it through a mates log-in.

found the list,basically (and I hope Im not getting into trouble for it but its so easy to find),just google it and halfway down its there,click into it,and theres a highlighted link to it among a blog of comments,Im currently sifting through "Fer" LOL!

OT, I'll give you a call later on tonight.

pablophanque

There will be a fair few folk not sleeping easy tonight I think!

Also a Polish web site has pictures of Boruc back home in Poland having a beer and smoking a cigar amongst other things.

look out for front page news here the morra.

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So it's the BNP north-west of England memberdhip list eh? Please please tell me none of our players are daft enough...

Bradford Bhoy

I also was reading a comments forum on the BNP Membership List issue.
The comment reads
"Blows Rangers FC's anti-sectarian drives out of the water."

interesting article

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/18/bnp_loses_list/

If any are daft enough they can surely expect a rough ride. I really hope there ain't none on it.
Hail Hail
Jamiebhoy

Italia Bhoy

It seems like it's the entire BNP membership list. Quite afew from Greenock I see. Full home addresses, e-mails, some mobile and home phone numbers and some even daft enough to list their occupation.

RRC,aye I seen that comment,Im actually reading the list just now,soldiers,mobile numbers,email addressess,the lot,if I was a dishonest man with a penchant for ID fraud,Id be retiring very shortly LOL!

WhatGoesAroundComesAround C.S.C

porridgeandbananas- do you have the list? anyone we know on it?

RRC - Same thing I have read. I can only see one possible name on the list - someone possibly linked with both us and Rangers.

Do a search for BB2 3HX and you will see who I mean. Although for some reason this entry is in very small font - cut and paste into Word then resize the font to see the name.

oldtim67

just catching up. if its something for kano? if it is can you include me and i will square you up when we next meet up.
i have emailed you.

Italia Bhoy

I found it on another Celtic forum but if you google it you should find it no probs. I actually saw a name connected with Celtic but I'd be amazed if it were true, home address in Manchester anyway.

It is a huge list, around 10,000 names so still going through it though a check of names I suspected from dark side yielded nothing.

I am perusing said list at the moment trying search for lanarkshire .... no clues so far

Well hello,

First post - Celtic 4 in a row (test)

cheers guys, will get googling

Paul Caddis starts at right midfield for Scotland U21s.

Sky Sports 1

Well blow me over with a feather !!

I copied the list into ord - guess how many pages??

666

Honestly!

Awe Naw

a link to the list please

I can see me using up my spare text messages tonight

Italia Bhoy - Just seen that one - surely not!!!! But how many namesakes in Manchester does he have.

Can't find anything concrete online- seems it might have been removed.

Any links/info gratefully received from those in the know...

Artur,

email me at nevermastered@googlemail.com

Vrai Baldo

Welcome to the madhouse

Old Tim

Can I put my name on the card too please mate- will you be sending it before the home game against ICT - if not I will meet you and sign it.

I am waiting on word back from ramie about my idea on putting Kano's photo on the big screen at Cp against ICT.

I would also like to chip in with something for him. Anyone any connections at CP that we could get a shirt signed by the team. If not I would be happy to get across to Lennoxtown and get it signed there. We could chip in for a shirt and the post if pablo cant get a mule.

Just Champion has way and gone and done it.

I think that server is on its knees :-)

Awe Naw

Found it mate

checking out the F just in case

A Lee

im on the works laptop, bugger it i better not download that or im in trouble..

away upstairs to desktop...

DBBIA,

Sorry. I've been too busy to even mention your suggested trip to Cleator Moor. I didn't have the time. I had to make do with my mate phoning through, keeping me up to date. He was complaining of how difficult it is to watch games like that. All I could say was that it was a 1,000 times worse sitting on the other of a telephone line. Still, the nerves were calmed when Paul Hartley put away the winner.

yo! a big whooosh and i thought id left bedlam behind...
id be carefull about putting the link on the site peeps...
maybe try and post a cunningly disguised search term ..a wee bit like ye would with the footy streams....
slan
aldo

Just champion, thanks.

depressing they have so many members...

any initial to give a step for a hint

After a cursory glance through the MCs, I haven't found anyone I know who has shamed Scotland, but there's an alarming number in Fife. Surely none in my golf club!

Found the list any pointers where in the Alphabet I should start looking ?

Oldtim,

If you've not yet sent off the card to Kano, please add my name.
Thanks. It's good to hear that he is improving slowly.

OLDTIM

add me to the list re Kano

i`ll square you up next time we meet up

Oldtim.

Please add me to kano's card.

Hi guys, non BNP list related.

I also remember fondly Iam Crocker commentating on some cracking Celtic games. However............the current incumbent is generally one Jim Proudfoot. I know, they all sound the same to me too ;)

Boys I have went through the Rangers squad and couldn´t come up with a hit. I also put in a few candidates. The alky goalie etc.

Take my advice. Save your time

LATEST.....

Scotland U21 1 N Ireland U21 1

:))
Murphy 3 McQuoid 9

thebunnet,

Steve Lovell. He commentated on the Hamilton game ?

LATEST NEWS......

Scotland U21 1 N Ireland U21 1
Murphy 3 McQuoid 9

:)

Pretty sure on Setanta it was Proudfoot and Booth. I thought Lovell was BBC.

Awe Naw good advice, looked myself for 5 mins and realised I had no interest in anybody stupid enough to join that mob.

Paul's shred on there being a story is intriguing although....

PFayr/Parkheadcumsalford.

There's nothing to sqare up,the money was minimal,but if you want your name put on the card,I'll print it on.

I forgot to get the card today and I bet I could have got a nice one at Celtic Superstore,I'm getting very feeble-minded lately,but I'll get one tomorrow.

thebunnet

Proudfoot was the commentator

Lovell is a "chick dung" type ...pitchside /aftermatch dogsbody ..he was performing that function on Sunday

OLDTIM

please do ...many thanks

PF

Paul67.

You have mail.

thebunnet,

I stand corrected I thought it was Lovell that was commentating!

Hail, hail

Tried F and B, nothing. What a waste of my work's time!

I see our Daniel Lafferty is starting for NI tonight and he's up against Paul Caddis.

awenaw..i was thinkin that myself..but there is a harry hill in that list..canny imagine thats its actually THE harry hill...
what are the chances of that happening?

nostrangertobeingonafewlistsmyselflikeCSC

...dunno if this's been mentioned earlier but on Sunday I was remarking to a Newcastle supporting mate how disappointed I was by the way O'ffiong (is he more Irsih than Barrack O' bama?) bossed about Caldwell/Mick.

His theory was that Heed n' Offiong were both once with Newcastle so there may just have been that bit extra edge about the meeting?

..elsewhere..

Only three more games to go in the League down here, can "Same old São Paulo. Always boring" hold on and win the title with three games to go and a five point cushion?

spirit of arthur lee> i remember another celtic website(granted not as good as this one) got their hawmaws busted for publishing novos addy and then you go and do this!!!!! :-)
hmmm im just wondering what the dailyrangers headline will be tomorrow....

hello aw yeees happy hoopsters,

Whits the craic? I see coorlad is away tae see Christy, that'll be in the millenium in Derry............luck bbbbbbbbback home in Derry.

Jinkysboy.......got the email, the nice wee lassie I spoke too gave me the postcode so I'll find it ra morra, their open between 10 and 2pm so I'll huv to go there aboot 1pm methinks ?

Pablo.......my brother is sorting oot details and he'll get back to me.

I'll email in a bit ......not long in......long day/ 2 weeks, it'll be great to be off the morra, and a trip to paradise as well, i'm like a wean at Christmas.

VRAI BALDO........hello nice ti huv the craic wae ye.

V

can anyone provide an initial for the person on THE LIST with a link to tic & rankers?? with manchester postcode?
no current buns players on it

ps. Boruc will be back for Aalborg ...esp as there is nowt wrong with his knee..problem lies slightly higher up

vinny_bhoy
no work then, you need a wee break after the last cuple of weeks :))
stay off the bevvy tonight or you won't look too good on the tv...

oldtim...........

Can you please add my name......plus I'm at Celtic Park tomorrow, will I get the card, I can pass it to Jinkysboy as I'll probably be meeting him tomorrow?

Bantyretim ye cannae say bugger on here .....H.....oooooooooooops.

please accept my most humble apologies if i have offended thee...

Jinkysbhoy.

If there was a photograph of kano I think that's a great idea,and as you said in your post the other day the costs minimal.

I'll be at the next game and will meet you,but CFC London Road is a no-no for me,I come in by train and I'd pass BBs and travel another 2-3 miles to get to CFC,I've just posted that I'm getting a bit Feeeble-minded but I'm not that far gone.

I was in BBs today and had a couple of coffees and I'm the better for it,maybe we could start another clique,the CQN coffee shop brigade,find a wee coffee shop that makes good Coffee & tea,Oh and cola for GordonJ.

vinny_man

thats it, you have driven me to the drink, i can't take the shame and need a wee drink to help me..

nice we rioja to soothe the pain/shame ;¬)

Jinkysbhoy.

If there was a photograph of kano I think that's a great idea,and as you said in your post the other day the costs minimal.

I'll be at the next game and will meet you,but CFC London Road is a no-no for me,I come in by train and I'd pass BBs and travel another 2-3 miles to get to CFC,I've just posted that I'm getting a bit Feeeble-minded but I'm not that far gone.

I was in BBs today and had a couple of coffees and I'm the better for it,maybe we could start another clique,the CQN coffee shop brigade,find a wee coffee shop that makes good Coffee & tea,Oh and cola for GordonJ.

v.manaw v.man vinny_bhoy wits next?

Oldtim67/Blantyretim

How are we this evening?

I was at the game on sunday met Jinkysboy before the game, the only 2 positive,s about Sun day was the result and also the gers fans will engage in permanently raging whichis always quite amusing.

Hail Hail
Roccobhoy

oldtim67

don't forget my garlic prawns:)))

Paul67.

You have another e-mail.

Aw Naw @ 3:06 and 3:15

Completely agree, expertly and succinctly put. Charlie Nick is an embarrassment to the hoops in every way.

margaret thatcher @ 4:09

That's one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on here!

roccobhoy

how u doing?
jinkysboy gave me a lift into hamilton on sunday, i didn't hang around as i was going down the town to meet fellow bhoys.

next home match is day after i have a wee charity doo for St andrews hospice, will no doubt be a wee bit rough...hope to catch up soon..have you been in touch with any of the st margarets bhoys?

WHO ARE THE SCOTTISH CB`S ...MINCE

Green Vespa, Awe no annoni an'another numpty etc.

The worst foul in the Stoke-Arsenal game was committed by Adebayor.

Footall is a game played by vigorous young men - ask Chris Sutton, John Hartson, Dolk, Tommy Gemmell, Bobby Murdoch, Bobby Collins.

Of all fans, Celtic's ought to be most aware of press and pundit manipulation.

Aaah Dolk - how I miss him: two iron legs, ribs of brass and false teeth made of broken glass.

Dolf, I meant.

Blantyretim

I,m good mate. My next trip to Paradise is on December 10th against Villareal. I will be in Glasgow early so if your near BB,s pre match I will be there.

I saw Hilly on the flight home after the Man Utd game.

I still have not saw Millis yet but when I do I will remind him of the geography of his only defeat. I have not forgotten.

I received my latest edition of More than 90 mins the other day, I read you Dad,s article - good as ever.

Do you go to many/all of the away games?

Awe Naw - 7.53

Do you have a copyright on that e-mail address? - its a cracker!

Blantyretim..........whit ye on aboot.......I thought it was jist a wee blether n a few cellic songs?

I cannae re....member anything aboot TV, is it X factor?

crappinitnooCSC

Any excuses fur gettin me oot o this?

Mibbeees I'll get that ither bloke to dae it .....ye know vmhan

Rocco
haven't been to an away game for several years.i tend to spend most sundays with my family so it rules me out..last sunday was a mission to get some stuff for my charity doo, it also happened to be in a pub...lifes hard.:)))

vinny_bhoy

Could you e-mail me on jjtolan@btinternet.com please mate?

Vinny_Bhoy

get the young one to do it. or is he not getting off work?
he has a high opinion of you anyway according to that last post...

Oldtim

I will meet up with you before or after the match againts ICT - will make arrangements nearer the time.

Ramie has spken to Kanos wife and she has given us the ok for the big screen and he will send me through a picture. I will get it on at the ICT game - if they can advise a time will you all be up for applause or a cheer for Kano - perhaps anyone with other Celtic site links could ask on them too.

Again - anyone with a Celtic Connection that could get a shirt signed by 1st team let me know please.

Vmhan

What time you want to meet Wednesday - how long you gonna be at CP?

Rocchobhoy and BT - how you two doing.

vinny_bhoy
yer not getting out of it now :))))))

Paul67
Is the listee a former ranger, and possible non driving (for falling asleep @ the wheel) playing for a south lanarkshire team?

So the list story is the wrong lead?

I want to know what this story is and that hopefully Celtic are not involved in anyway.

How sad it is to hear my fellow Celtic supporters have anything other than contempt for nasty little Diego.
Fact no.1 He`s a drug cheat.
Fact no.2 He`s a drug addict.
That he is now coach of Argentina speaks volumes for the "culture" in that country,"democratised",incidentally by Margaret Thatcher.Thank you from yesterday, El Diego Bhoy.

Have any of you forgotten the cheats of Racing Club?
Or the thugs of Athletico Madrid,coached and mentored by an Argentinian,who kicked wee Jimmy up hill and down dale at Celtic Park?
Argentina,populism gone mad.
Plus ca change.......
Incidentally,"the fields" getting big licks at the Munster All Blacks game.

Paul - so is the news that someone connected to orcdom has appeared on the BNP list? - trust we've all checked on our favourite ex-orc keeper?

Blantyretim

In a Pub mate - I,d say you found that difficult! :) :)

Keep the faith and talk soon mate

As I say if you are about before Villareal game contact me CQN.

Blantyretim

In a Pub mate - I,d say you found that difficult! :) :)

Keep the faith and talk soon mate

As I say if you are about before Villareal game contact me CQN.

I loved Maradona as a player - an absolute genius and unstoppable most days. I read his autobiography though and his connections with the Naples mafia, the Camorra, were passed off as innocent friendships. He knew exactly who they were though and was happy to take the cars and jewellery they regularly offered him. He went down in my estimation when I read that.

macjay on November 18, 2008 9:09 PM

That post you just made is bordering on the racist mate.

macjay, he may well have / had a drug problem but are you saying he took performance enhancing drugs (btw wouldn't put coke in that bracket)?

Like Best, Diego didn't cope well with his fame. He may not be the nicest person you'll ever meet but he is the best footballer that has ever walked the planet, humiliated the English and he has a penchant for Fidel (lots of pluses for me there)...

Rocco

BT is full of it - and was on sunday too by the time he got home

Think my old man did a lot of charity work in both the boozers and the bookies. ha ha

Did you pick uo that WG was in the railway club on sunday when we were there - you could have had a walk on part in TGITW if we had met him......

o1bhoy

You got mail

and btw are you suggesting we should dislike him on the basis that he's Argentinian? You'll start plonking on about the Falklands next...

porridge n B

ok bud as requested ye huv mail.

TON-CHE-TIM..........whits the craic?

Broggi is in USA with work so nae season book details, but I have it sorted noo. I see ye chickened oot or mibbees "city slicker" put her foot doon, quite right too, ye dae huv yir hols in a few days..........lucky che.

blantyretim.............he is a young un but not mine, wan o the best mind ye, the real young un is only interested in getting to the St Mirren game .......nuthin else matters to him, he does know all the auld songs mind ye.

For latest developments on tackling TFS check

http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/topic/8030513/48/

The Irish MEP (Eion Ryan)who raised it in the EU Parliament has been invited to Scotland.

jinkysboy

you know the truth mate :)))

st josephs parish hall 28/11/08..you know the place...
i will be full of it that night too.....

roccobhoy speak soon

Luca

He's not on the list - unless P is referring to something else.

The best thing about CQN?

- When you're thrown a wee morsel of juicy breaking news and left to speculate what it is.

The worst thing about CQN?

- When you're thrown a wee morsel of juicy breaking news and left to speculate what it is.

Macjay,

You say he's a drug cheat. Did he ever take performance-enhancing drugs? If not, then "drug cheat" is meaningless.
You say he's a drug addict. I don't know whether he is or not, but that would not be a reason to have contempt for him.
And what have Racing Club and Athletico Madrid got to do with him?
I understand, however, that you don't like Argentina.

macjay

How is he a drug cheat? Is cocaine a performance enhancing substance?

He has battled with drug addictions. Are we to have nothing for contempt for people with addiction problems?

And we've to hate him him because someone who happened to be born in the same country as him assaulted Jinky in 1974?

Do you think Maradona kicked others more than they kicked him over the course of his career?

Auldheid

the comments from McMillan attached to the article are utterly outrageous ...and he`s their spokesman

as was mentioned in the thread ..introspection ...none whatsoever

it is clear that they are paying lip service to their own anti racist /sectarian policies ..ie without fear of sanction they would have no intention of trying to clean their act up

Cathal and others

In the name of heaven. Do Paul a favour and refrain.

The list is full of email addresses like that.

Lots of BNP people seem to like Rangers.

This is to be filed in the big book of things we all knew already.

Blantyretim........................re signed Cellic strip.....

I could go around to the local pub and ask fur it back aff them, but I won't be in for a few days........and it'll need washed as its been on the ceiling since we moved here.

Or I could ask ra morra ?........might try that. Or we could get a strip and add a whole load of CQN names to it, because we the supporters r the real stars o the show.

Ideas in action CSC

blantyretim.

Are you of the bevvie.

Roccobhoy.
I'm fine,I was in Glasgow today and got home fighting fit.
Thats the first time I've been out since the Manure game,I've missed all the games since MU.Hopefully I'll get to all the rest of the games from now until the end of the season.
I was half way through typing this post when Stevie rung me up.and I think we blethered for about Half an hour,sorry for being late in answering your post.

vinny_bhoy

i think you maybe replying to jinkysbhoy but i get the jist
just don't forge mine....

oldtim67
just a wee glass of rioja...

oldtim67

I noticed the other day you said you weren't too well recently. Good to hear you are out and about and feeling better.

re BNP...................

There was wan in the local pub on Sunday........he was standing under said signed Cellic top and at that point a wee song started......"sure its a grand old team to play for......" TON-CHE-TIM and I were singing away when this older english bloke joined in and then from the corner o the bar where the Liverpool lads were another Celt joins in NF..............poor sod was Bloody Not Pleased (BNP)ha ha the celts r taking over his wee local.

Cathal ,

Is that your first post on CQN ?

West Wales Celt,

that was my first ever handle on a celtic newsboard. I used to use it years ago on the soccernet message boards.

NevermasteredCSC

Auld Heid.......I honestly think they now know they are on a hiding to nothing....they know the world has moved on.....they just don't know how to catch up......but hey, the longer they drag their heels, the sooner Castle Greyskull will become a housing development, and Scotland can be rid of it's shame.

Cathal, what on earth do you think you are doing?

If you want to post the name, address and telephone number of someone else on a public blog, do the brave thing and leave your own phone number and address.

Deleted.

No malice or anything untoward intended ... sorry for posting those details ... I should know better.

It's not my first post, but you can count them on the fingers of one hand.

Vinny

There wont be any players at CP on wednesday though you could ask if they would sign it and we could pick it up next week.

I like the idea of them signing the front and us on the back. The 1st team and the 12th man..............

let me know what time your at CP and how long you will be there

Lubo
I don`t like fascist or communist dictatorships,or to put it another way,I don`t like totalitarianism.
From memory,he was sent home from the World cup in U.S.A.for failing a drug test.Who could forget his face to camera moment?
He recently went to Cuba for a cure for his drug addiction.
I don`t feel contempt or hatred for him.I feel sad that he may be considered a role model.
Apologies to others.I have to race off to work,but will try to respond later.
Chavez,mi esposa es Latina.

blantyretim.

Pablo's just off the phone and has been burning my ear off about the drink,and I've signed the pledge,but only when he's there.

Rioja sounds fine for me.

Cathal, no worries, we live and learn.

Bloke 109
Cheers th thought that was to obvious. Could it be Mr Murphy the assistant ref, outed last week to have been a tim by old dear Uncle Wattie. :-0

oldtim67
reduced to a fiver in every little helps. helped myself to a couple of bottles last night, 1 will do for this evening...

a glass does you no harm, but who am i to argue with pablo, tell him to speak to dbbia, just don't over do it..

Hail Hail

Oldtim 67

I thought you only drank when Celtic were involved - or does that mean when blogging on CQn and any other Celtic conversations too

Jinkysboy.................

I'll be there at 11am, I'm guessing it'll go to about 12am depending how long it takes them tae throw me oot the side doors.

So, I'll see ye at 12, I'll phone ye anyway as I think I'll go early enough to get into Paisley and pick up ma tickets, then from 12 onwards we'll meet up, is that ok with you?

ps pablo's making a special appearance in the Greenock Celtic on Sat. So any quicknewsters from wine city...........gather roon and we'll huv a wee tune or two.

Blantyretim ................dae ye naw huv proper vino in you're bit?

Vinny_bhoy

i am very proud of the fact that although i hail from lanarkshire that i have never partaken of the local tipple, the mighty buckie...:))

it was half price btw...

PF ayr
67heaven
What is interesting is how the issue keeps coming up OUTSIDE Scotland. Its like the UEFA/BillyBoys all over again in that Scottish Society saw nothing to do anything about and was made to by an external force.

The same avoidance strategy has been tried with TFS but external forces keep bringing it back into focus.

To that extent it's not so much that the world has moved on, it always was ahead, but that it has noticed that this part of the world has fallen behind and is making us catch up.

Apart from TFS just ceasing, the lesson for everyone is that the environment that allowed (if not enabled) BBS/TFS no longer exists and it is stupid to carry on as if it has. That means we no longer have to accept the likes of TFS and they stop giving us the opportunity to demonstrate their inferior position (as they would see it).

When you think "weearrapeepul" the last thing you want is constant reminders that er well, actually you are not.

Not quite the heart change from introspection perhaps, but maybe the next best thing.

porridge n b's........................

yes I know yir granda...........apart from being the treasurer he used to drive one o the buses to the games as did my father, I have a photo from the celtic, of them all curtesy o Greenlion2 who is a wee bit younger than me........he would say a lot younger mind ye...........Still keep fit though trying to roll back the years a bit lol.

V

Jinkysbhoy.

I must have given you the wrong impression,what I said to you was,I only drink when I go to BBs before the games,I was in BBs today and only had two cups of coffee,absolutely no booze went past my lips today,I haven't drunk a drop since the Manure Game,I swear to god.

porridgeandbananas.

thanks.

Right.............

who kens this yin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2vNEXqHo_o

GL2 .....anybody?

Porridge...........ye huv mail.......clique ?

A wee bit aff the cuff but..........are the O'Neils not related to the Strachans from Greenock ?

V

Auldheid,

Certain legislation while helping doesn´t seem to be implemented in Scotland. I´m sure there are foibles like this all over the world. They cant move on while Murray is incumbent. The history books will write that he was the first to sign Catholics and thats true. It would be sad if it were still so. Lets not forget how callous towards the no catholic siging policy the whole nation is and to a certain extent still is. They cannot even remotely move on until a new incumbent takes place. It will be sold for a pound someday I reckon. 1 pound too much. ;-)

OldTim

Would you add my name to the card.

Thanks in advance

Drogheda

Anybody going to greenock on Sat..........mind this is a local favourite song lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOkigFvxLrk&NR=1

V

Aw Naw

Maybe he'll give it to the nation for 1Pence?

http://www.thurrockgazette.co.uk/news/3858923.Player_quits_match_over_Tilbury_fans__racist_slur/

sorry paul! With the best intentions.

vmhan

I will drive to CP to arrive at high noon then (rolling rolling) - if your out befire that give me a call.

oldtim - I know mate - was just having a laugh - the wee devil in me. Im still tee total - 8th week now.

BT - I have never even sniffed Buckie never mind drunk it. Wouldnt use it to clean my drains

Pablo - What a double act that will be - Vmhan and Pablo on tour 2008. Let the people sing indeed.

O1 bhoy - awfy quiet tonite - has there been anither murrrder

macjay

You spoke of contempt in your initial post.

"How sad it is to hear my fellow Celtic supporters have anything other than contempt for nasty little Diego"

He was sent home from USA '94 for testing positive for cocaine which, to my knowledge, is not performance enhancing.

Yes he had an addiction. Lots of people have addictions of many types. That's not a reason for holding someone in contempt in my eyes.

Neither is the fact that someone might have happened by accident of birth to have been born into a dictatorship of some kind.

He certainly isn't an ideal role model from a professional athletic point of view - what he is is a football genius, arguably the greatest who has ever lived, who showed courage and leadership on the field, taking a provincial club to two Serie A titles despite battling against institutional bias towards the big northern clubs from the establishment (with an unhealthy dose of anti-Neapolitan/southern Italian prejudice thrown in). He also led this provincial club to a major European trophy and his country to two successive WC finals, winning one.

He showed a fair amount of bravery on the field, being on the the receiving end of brutal savagery on numerous occasions including a horrific challenge from Goikoetxea (which shattered his ankle). His skill led him to be a target for a number of hatchet men who gleefully blootered him up and down the park (whenever they could get close enough to kick him), and his response generally was to get up and demand the ball again. A bit like one of our own dearly remembered legends.

Plenty to admire there in my opinion.

Auldheid,

I´m sure DD would beat us to it ;-)

Anybody else think johnny depp is taking
this method acting thing a little to serious lateley

Paul - apologies - can you please delete that link asap. I've just been advised of the implications - refer all enquiries to me!!

DavieL, you don’t write, you don’t fax, there was no Christmas card last year, and now this! Deleted.

SPD and macjay

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

Pele - a genius - he had many flaws off the field too. Different media then though.

Best - genius - see above

Jinky - genius - we all know the stories

Baxter - genius - ditto

need I go on

Jinkysboy - Dobber - nothing worth writing about

Case closed m'lud

vinny

mail right back at you!

dobber..?

you had me fooled :))))

Paul67

I havent been deleted for ages - feeling left out tonight

Might just throw in a curve ball......

great job you do neighbour

PS Have you seen me on our roof this week - its ok Im not gonna jump (yet)

Right.................ye are..................

Pablo.......hotel booked fur Sat. 4 in 2 rooms the young ins r in the gether, which is ok cause they'll be going nightclubbing wae the darker side of oor family.

The bus booked, tickets will be collected ra morra.......huv I forgot anything? cause ma heads up ma.....jumper this weather..

then we're on the road again.......to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsFHfOLm2e0

BT

fair play - apprentice dobber

AuldHeid.......spot on....but ye know, the web has also been a great leveller....every argument they put forward to justify their position becomes weaker as the protestation gathers speed, rather like a wilderbeast as it gathers speed on approaching the cliff edge....one day they will realise that we are all christians together....the ony difference between us is that we support a better football team..LOLOLOL

And I somehow forgot to mention that he also scored what is generally considered to be the best goal of all time.

jinkysboy and others

I paid a visit to Kano's father tonight and informed of all that you are doing for Kano. It really cheered him up I think.

I saw some pictures of Kano in hospital. He is looking better than I expected all things considered. Ramie's e-mails have been more positive so here's hoping the recovery has started.

Kano's dad has never been on this site although he knew about it as Kano often spoke of it so I left him tonight reading through some of the posts of support that have been put on here.

I am sure he will realise that there are some very special people on here.

night bhoys/ghirls

hail hail and keep up the prayers or whatever you are doing for kano.seems to be working

KTF

Vmhan

Im feeling left out here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg0PjOPCngQ

kingoh
good timing

god bless ..

Celtic TV Goal of the Month for October:

Paddy McCourt, Reserves v Aberdeen
Glen Loovens, v ICT, away
Cillian Sheridan v Kilmarnock, home
Scott Brown v Kilmarnock, home
Shunsuke Nakamura v Kilmarnock, away
Aiden McGeady v Kilmarnock, away

Jim Jeffries and Billy Brown need not enter :-)

Final Score from Thomond Park

Munster 16 All Blacks 18

Tonight I watched a fantastic match played in front of a passionate 26,000 capcity crowd which saw New Zealand edge a very close contest with a try with only 3 minutes to go. The home side had been leading 16-10 at half time and were holding out for another famous victory over the tourists.

However,some relentless pressure by the All Blacks was rewarded with an unconverted try that gave them a 2 point lead which sadly was to prove unassailable for Munster with only minutes remaining.

I managed to watch the game thru a couple of different streams, the atmosphere was quite incredible, end to end stuff, tackles flying in all over the place, the makeshift Munster XV can be proud of their efforts tonight, a fitting "official" opening to the new Thomond Park, even if the final score was not what the huge, vocal crowd had wished for.

This is craggy island, reporting for CQN, back to the studio.

kingoh

good to hear of Kano's progress

For me I feel priveleged to be part of this community - the charity work and all is in line with the clubs ideals.

Kano is one of the special people on here - God Bless him tonight and give his family the strength they need to be there for him

Bloke 109

Scott McDonald v man Utd surely

I know that was November but...................

jinkysboy

that was in November!

aaaaaaah Jinkysboy get yir shades back on.

Don't feel left oot ......ye can join us ye know, all welcome....especially hi Jinks..........it's all inclusive and nae cliques ye see.

nae toons fae the Pablo ?

kingoh

I live in a different timezone - some might say the twilight zone

At least he gets one vote ............

Vmhan

Will see - might get Mrs Jinks to put her strapless sandals on and trip the light fantastic down by the seaside on saturday night.

Think Pablo doesnt get to play toons till ---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mSMETRoOs0

Vmhan

Dont remember ever seeing Roy without the shades other than that video

Jinkysboy.....you need cheered up ........"Only the lonely, fur goonis sake !!!!!!"........I actually listened to it all....hadn't heard it for years...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dRYdCHR7C1I&feature=related

67heaven

Im a happy we chappy - life is good for me.

I love Roy - forget how good he was

thats a good tune you posted though. Love it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOuE5lQCYAE

Jinkysboy.........who's this vmhan yir on aboot, is he not at work ?

coorslad's concert will be over soon ........but of course the pubs in Derry keep continental hours or summitt.

Right I must be offski soon, long drive ra morra.

Bhoys and ghirls

My battery is about to call it a day and I cant be bothered getting my lead out my bag so night all

Keep the faith

Jinkysboy, no, didn’t see you on the roof, but did you see the eclipse today? :-)

Kano snr. I cannot begin to know the stress this last two weeks has caused, but I don’t go a day without someone asking me “what’s the latest”.

Take care.

vinny ring me just back from christy

Craggy
Just watched the match myself. First class, the Munster story simply keeps inspiring. What a side, what a support. Reminds me a bit of another team, only they regularly win the European cup still. But as I said it is an inspirational story, so you never know. Don't stop believing!

This WGS is going to watch the Argentnians tomorrow.

Craggy island gaa
watch the game myself awesone as a scot i just wish my national team could play with such passion and commitment, Munsters haka had the hairs n goosebumps out, FANTASTIC

MTT

So a plethora of CQNers are busily trawling through a list of BNP members in the hope of finding a Rangers connection. Will there be a special prize for the first poster to find one?

Seriously, this is surely an all time low for CQN and I for one find the whole thing embarrassing and risible. Frankly, I would not waste a second of my life looking at this list.

WGS

Who is being freed tonight?

Prince

Ach maybe, but more than football, it is a national news story with a little local interest. Or, in my case, evem more local when you discover someone on it who lives round the corner. A mere stone's throw, one might say, purely metaphorically.

Hopefully Daniel Diaz will be playing

El Diego,

Nobody I nalied to my colours to OWEN and will stick with it. Thomas Vermaelen mate. That's the dude we should be looking at for the defence. I'm stalking the guy now.

I see the Guardian and Daily Mail are running with the possible return of Bellamy in January to be re united with GS and Celtic.

Back to the football - What of reports that WGS is interested in bringing Craig Bellamy to Celtic Park in January on another loan deal?

Would you want him back? Would you take him permanently?

Dunno if this has been posted here before. I got it in an e-mail and it's been on other sites. Told by someone else. Apologies for long post.

In 2003, Celtic's UEFA Cup final year, I went on a bus from Shawlands, Glasgow to the Celtic v Blackburn game at Ewood Park. We won 2-0 and wanted to celebrate after the match, so we asked the driver to take us to Blackpool. At first he refused and after we had a whip round and gave him 80 quid he agreed to take us for a few hours.

I can't remember the name of the pub, but we were in there a few hours, got a wee lock in an nat. Anyway, the driver came into the pub and told us to get ready to leave for Glasgow, we had five minutes.
We were well oiled and slowly and drunkenly made our way to the bus.

On the bus we were all getting comfy for a wee kip on the way home, when someone from the pub came running out shouting that we'd left one of the boys behind. We were all ignoring the driver's pleas to go and get him, so the driver and a few of the barstaff brought this 20 stone bear of a guy out of the pub. He was steamin' and well asleep. They huffed and puffed him onto the bus and laid him on the floor in the aisle between the seats.

We didn't really take much notice as we were pashed ourselves and trying to get a kip.

Thing is, the guy was snoring like a freacking train and about 10 miles north of Gretna my cousin Brian woke up asking what the heck the noise was.

As a few more of us woke up we looked at the lump of a guy on the floor. Some of the guys tried to wake him up but had no luck, then oor Brian said that the guy wasnae on the bus on the way down to Blackburn.

I was laughing ma ershe off and said that I hope he doesnae stay in Blackpool.

Anyway, one of the guys had a look for the guy's wallet to see if he had some ID on him. He found a driving license and it had an address in Hamilton on it. So we told the driver to drop him off.

When we got to the guy's house we had to drag him off the bus as he still wouldn't wake up. We managed to get his keys out his pocket and open his front door. We laid him on his couch and left his keys on the mantlepiece and left.

As we closed the front door behind us and we were walking down his drive one of his neighbours was coming in from the nightshift and she said. 'If you're looking for big Tam, he's away to Blackpool with the wife and kids for a fortnight.'

Prince,

Aye i would. Can remember him destroying Rangers in that first half. McLeish was stuuned and frightened. Aberdeen and Dundee Utd linger for me as well. Still lives with me that loan spell he had. Brilliant.

Title race 07-08 - nice vid

DownForSam

mickthetic

I do see a comparison between Munster's reputation at Thomond Park and ours at CP, very similar records in that we have both beaten all-comers over the last 8-10 years in club competition.

That performance/result tonight would easily rank alongside with ours against Man Utd the other week.

And although victory was neither Munsters or Ours on the night, we stood up to a much bigger, more powerful force and with the fervent backing of our supporters, we matched them, we did not beat them, but we MATCHED them all the same.

That in itself, is some achievement in my book.

Belief in a cause, with hard work and the backing of an indomitable support can prove to be insurmountable to even the best of opponents.

alone it still stands

craggy

Bloke 109

That is a great story! Made me "LOL"!!!

109

LOL!

Oldtim would you mind adding my name to the card for kano as well if its not too late.

Thanks

FIAR.

From tomorrow's Herald:

Celtic track Bosnia midfielder Stilic

Celtic are lining up a £2.5m move for Semir Stilic, the Bosnian internationalist.

Stilic, who plays for Polish club Lech Poznan, has netted nine goals from midfield already this season and Celtic representatives have watched the 21-year-old twice already, including last weekend's win against Polonia Warsaw.

Stilic has been capped twice by Bosnia this year after helping his club to third place in the Polish League. He moved to Poland from FK Zeljeznicar Sarajevo a year ago and has established himself as one of the most exciting attacking midfielders in the country.

Celtic face competition, as Miro Jaganjac, Stilic's agent, explained. "There are a couple of clubs in England who have shown interest in him, too," he said. "I know Celtic have had him watched a couple of times and are showing interest but it is up to Lech Poznan whether they want to sell him or not. I do know they turned down a bid of 2.5m earlier this season for him."

Bloke 109: That is the funniest story I've read in ages. Cheers

Craiginho

jinkysbhoy.

I've just been going back over the posts and noticed yours at9.06pm,thats good news regarding getting Kano's photo up on the big screen,If you don't mind I'd like to go half with you.

Regarding getting a shirt signed by the team all you need is a brass neck.I'll have a go with an e-mail and ask PL if he would endorse the signing of a shirt donated by CQN and give him an explanation.

I've been reading back the posts and anyone that I spotted requesting a mention on the card I will do.

Pablo Diablo,
Mucho gusto,senor!
You`re quite right,of course.Maradona was the product of his environment and any judgement of him should be placed in that context.Perhaps my use of the word contempt was over the top.
I made no comment about his ability as a footballer.He was superb.However,my son has googled a clip of Maradona playing which demonstrates thuggish assaults on other players.Try googling maradona fight if you wish to confirm.

i Have copied this from the BBC web page for team news for the SPL. It is now Tuesday night EST and since 17:43 GMT, Thursday, 13 November 2008 this has had this negative news story for Celtic, while all other teams fortunes have changed due changing fortunes. Now What has happened for Celtic since the 13th,
Hamilton 1 Celtic 2, shows up on the Hamilton link.
Maradona gives his hat to Ball boy, shows up on International link.
Argentina train at Celtic Park

Newsworthy? Or lazy journalism?

Paul, thank you for this forum, can't say it simpler.

Hail Hail

MT
CLUB NEWS

ABERDEEN
Hibernian 2-2 Aberdeen
CELTIC
Celtic pay for fan pitch invasion
DUNDEE UNITED
Kilmarnock 2-0 Dundee United
FALKIRK
Falkirk 1-0 Motherwell
HAMILTON ACADEMICAL
Hamilton Accies 1-2 Celtic
HEARTS
Inverness CT 0-1 Hearts

HIBERNIAN
Hibernian 2-2 Aberdeen
INVERNESS CT
Inverness CT 0-1 Hearts
KILMARNOCK
Kilmarnock 2-0 Dundee United
MOTHERWELL
Falkirk 1-0 Motherwell
RANGERS
Rangers 2-1 St Mirren
ST MIRREN
Rangers 2-1 St Mirren

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Malvinas Bhoys V Maggies Boys....

o1MenVBoysCSC

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Celtic interest in Fahey as Saints reject Blues....

CELTIC are lining up a bid for St Patrick's Athletic midfielder Keith Fahey after Birmingham had a first offer for the 25-year-old rejected yesterday,

The Championship promotion contenders were willing to part with a figure close to €200,000, with a further €90,000 in add-ons, but that does not meet the valuation of the Inchicore club.

Birmingham have been impressed by the PFAI Player of the Year after watching him in action in recent weeks, feeling that he would offer badly needed creativity in the centre of the park, and are expected to come back with another bid after their initial approach was rebuffed by St Pat's.

However, they are not the only suitors, with SPL giants Celtic monitoring the situation. Scout John Park watched Fahey in the UEFA Cup tie with Hertha Berlin at the RDS in September, and they requested further DVDs of the Tallaght native in action.

Earlier this year, the Glasgow club made a foray into the League of Ireland market to take Paddy McCourt from Derry City -- and he has eventually broken into the first team picture in recent weeks.

Celtic aren't the only SPL outfit to be keeping an eye on the uncertain financial situation in Ireland at the moment, with Drogheda pair Brian Shelley and Eamon Zayed set to play a trial match for Hamilton Academicals today.

As revealed in the Irish Independent last Thursday, Zayed has also been in Korea, along with Adam Hughes, looking to impress enough to find new employment. He received two contract offers after his time there, but will see how things go with Hamilton before assessing his options.

(The Independent)

o1bhoy

Morning all quicknewsters.................

running a wee bit late ....................looking forward to meeting a few quicknews fholk at Celtic Park today.

on the road .............

oldtim67

I hope ye got my request for Kano's card........plus I would like to share the cost of the message wae you n Jinkysboy , I'm meeting him today and discuss it.

Vinny ..........who is heading ......

Oldtim67 (Nov 18 3.57 pm)

Thanks.

Hail Hail

G.

macjay

i agree to a point about maradona in the youtube clip you are talking about but to say there was some history between the two sides, and for maradona in particular would be an understatement

http://www.laligatalk.com/savagery-25-years-later/189

the animal who put him out for four months and led to him having 24 hours of operations on his ankle also mounted the boots that he was wearing at the time in a glass case. he tried to end his career, it wasnt the first time he had done it to a barca player, either. and it wasnt just the beast of bilbao who barca had a problem with, it was the rest of the team, the fans and the men upstairs who all seemed to take pleasure in what had happened to maradona

Oldtim67

Morning - It will get paid on line with my card and you can buy me a drink mate - it really is a pittance for what it will mean to Kano and us.

E mail PL and see what he says - I think Vmhan is gonna ask when he is at CP today - they can sign it later in the week and we can pick it up soon. He had a good idea. Get the 1st teamto sign it then the 12th man as well (CQN) we could do that maybe at the ICT game. Im sure he would like that (great idea Vmhan)

Jinkysboy

Get back to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

both of you get on with some work.......

Paul67.

You have mail.

Oldtim 67

Please mention myself on the card.

Blantyretim

get back to work!!! :) :)

roccobhoy

im at work :¬))))

Right, both of you stop it and get on with something more constructive, or you'll sit apart from each other. Understand?

teh he he...

he started it first sir.....

snitchcfc

I don't care who started it, it ends NOW.

macjay

I've seen the footage many times. It's not pretty and I don't think it's acceptable but we're all capable of losing our cool under extreme provocation.

Remember Larsson exacting retribution on Gus MacPherson vs. Killie with his studs? Proof that even the most unflappable of pros can lose their temper eventually. How many red cards did Jinky get for violent conduct?

I'll say again, do you think Maradona kicked others more than he got kicked himself?

celtic4me

Well said. Goikoetxea also nearly ended Bernd Schuster's career while Schuster was relatively young, and reveled in his infamy.

Inkybhoy

He started it second, Blame him!! :) :)

RIGHT, that's it. ENOUGH of this insolence, punishment exercise for both of you, Write out 500 times 'The Cardigan is a nice old man and Barry F is the greatest midfielder of his generation'. DO NOT post this, leve it on my DESK, get on with it

Inkybhoy

Suddenly I,ve developed writers cramp and therefore am unable to do as you requested.

What a pity!!

Well you can go and show the headmaster your cramp. Would you like that? Mmmm. Would you?

Punishment exercise for The Holy Goalie???

inkybhoy

agree with roccobhoy..
anyway i do actually have to go do some work now so Hail Hail..

ps you would need to suspend me and report me to the headie or my dad because i can't bring myself to do that exercise..(any exercise really)

Youth..wasted on the young. Tch!

STANDING UP.. and I've got stuff to do as well

Roccobhoy

I,m actually busy aswell, that makes it a Celtic Hat trick.

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What's Work....???? ;O((((

o1beachbhoyCSC

Inkybhoy

Do you have knowledge of the big story Paul alluded to?

Was it linked to the leaked list, and if so, are you satisfied it was a false alarm?

Fairly interesting article by Martin Samuel in the Times this morning about the French trying to impose rules on European football to reduce the influence / success English football has.

article

What caught my eye though is how scathing he is regarding the uncompetitve natue of French football - he points out no team have dominated their league as much as Lyons have over the last 7 years (except Moldova)...this got me thinking again about how apart from Dunfermline lying down to Rangers and Celtic putting in one of the worst performances I've ever seen from them against Motherwell then we'd be as dominant as Lyons.....never mind waiting for GOD, it's already here!

here's goixocxeqea's (sp?) "tackle" on maradona, followed by a wee bit of handbags the next time he came up against bilbao.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XpcBkpOf4z8&NR=1

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Thought This Might Interest Some of You....

Manchester United supporters call in Office of Fair Trading over rise in ticket prices

United supporters have made an official complaint to the OFT

Manchester United supporters have reported the club to the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) after claiming some ticket prices have risen by 60 per cent.

The Manchester United Supporters Trust (MUST), formerly known as Shareholders United, has lodged an official complaint with the OFT, saying the club have "breached its statutory and legal obligations to season ticket holders".

The group, which vehemently opposed Malcolm Glazer's takeover of the club, has instructed its lawyers to register three complaints about the way the club's ticketing policy has been breached.

MUST's argument centres on United's compulsory cup scheme, which forces season ticket holders to agree in advance to buy tickets for cup games even though they do not know how many they will have to pay for and who the opposition will be. At one point all season ticket holders had to pay for all cup matches but this has now been relaxed to exclude Carling Cup games.

However, MUST still claims United are acting unlawfully given what they view as a dominant position in the market and the fact that fans do not transfer their allegiance just because the club acts in a way they do not like.

In addition, they argue that massive ticket price rises in recent years - highlighted by sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe - contravene a pledge given by Glazer in the build-up to his takeover attempt.

"Over recent years we have seen unfair terms and huge ticket price rises imposed on supporters by club owners taking advantage of their loyalty," Duncan Drasdo, MUST's chief executive, said.

"MPs from all political parties have raised concerns and even the minister for sport felt it necessary to launch an outspoken attack on the huge price rises at Old Trafford in recent years.

"For a long time Manchester United was by no means the worst offender having previously had an admirable policy of keeping prices relatively low despite the success of the club. All that changed when the Glazers took over.

"However now, with the help of a team of eminent competition lawyers, economists and experts in sports law, we have been able to compile a comprehensive complaint based on Competition and Contract Law, which could have welcome consequences for supporters at clubs throughout the country."

(The Times)

o1bhoy

Barry robson pulls out if scotland squad with groin injury. SFA medical staff what do they know.

p

Masonictim, you’re welcome.

lubo1977, of course G.o.D. is already here, I’ve been saying that for years!

Celtic First, that was what I was referring to.

DundeePerth, the Holy Goalie has to decide which way his career it going to go. I am not optimistic.

paul.

you have mail.

Thanks Paul. Didn't realise you were around.

Are you satisfied it was a false alarm?

Paul67.
you have return mail.

Celtic_First

What was Paul refering to??

Robson has pulled his groin and is out of the Scotland squad, do we have any idea how bad it is?

Paul 67.

I have no idea what has happened to Artur Boruc recently, but something somewhere along the line must be triggering this behaviour.

Yes he has had his moments such as running down the Ibrox pitch with the Chapions flag which, whilst it was fantastic for us, it was still ill advised at best.

What seems to be happening latterly though is, the curse of many a prfessional footballer, alcohol.

Like I say, I certainly don't know what is going through his mind, but like you, I fear the worst.

* For Chapions, read Champions.

** For prfessional, read professional.

A worthwhile read bearing in mind the amount of time we all spend on here creating new formations etc...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/nov/19/argentina-napoli

My thoughts remain that it requires too many players playing a specific role.

Roccobhoy

Paul got wind that a footballer based in Lanarkshire and one based in Glasgow might be included on the leaked list of BNP party members.

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BhoysOfOz....

Anyone Interested the Republic V Poland Game is being Shown Delayed Tele-cast 9:30am on ESPN....

o1bhoy

Rocco & BT

I hhave been on here for 2 minutes this morning - didnt even see your ridicule to me until this minute on my first break since 8am.

Due a new article and it will be 2 minutes after my break ends here.

Celtic_First

Thanks for that

Surely with the historical nature of both teams in Glasgow it is highly likely "the glasgow based footballer" who is a member of the BNP is a Rangers Player.

Celtic_First

That whole list thing....

It was breaking on various media, but where I work, someone said, there doesn't seem to be anyone on the list we're interested in.

So a number of production staff, myself included, spent a good while looking through the list.

Basically, we all looked for big names, found none, so then started looking for people locally, or for our home towns. The staff come from across the country.

Given that we are all at pretty much the opposite end of the political spectrum from the people on the list, it was a fun exercise in spotting your local neo-fascist.

One guy, who lives in a small Ayrshire town, and for the record a genuine Ayr United fan, was pretty horrified to find two in his town and one across the road from his granny. His words were, 'I'll pass that house on my way home tonight...'

I found a few locally to me as well, and as you pointed out to Cathal after his intemperate posting last night, it's no sursprise some of the numbers/signifiers found in email addresses. One in particular local to me was rather choice.

What I did find was one retired senior polis and so cut and paste, email his contact details to the newsdesk. I would like to think they might want to speak to him...

False alarm? Quite probably in terms of no Scottish footballers seeming to be on the list. Regarding specific footballers or clubs, it may have been a case of 2+2=476.3. Maybe looking for something that wasn't there, no matter how much we would have liked it to have been

But I thought one interesting point about the whole thing was the number of people on the list who seemed a bit miffed that their membership had been made public. If as they maintain, it is a respectable, mainstream party, why the need to hide membership.

o1bhoy

How you doing mate -

I wouldnt think that Aiden even travelled for that one.

On the list

A guy in here said the person who put that list on should be taken to court as he had invaded these individuals privacy

Im gonna check if his name is on the list now

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Jinkysboy....

Very Good Buddi....No He Didn't Travel nor did Sami or Scott Hope they are fighting fit for Paisley....

Sent you Mail Earlier.... Emu's are so Slow....

Didn't Think you got Breaks with The Credit Crunch and All.... ;o((((

o1bhoy

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What List....????

Has Schindler's List being Re released....

o1bhoy

Inkybhoy

Thank you. On a much smaller scale, that's what we did too.

The party leader gave an interview to James Naughtie at 7.10 this morning. His answer to your question is in there.

Jinkysboy, in the same interview, he said there was a High Court injunction against the people he suspects of having done this and said that if it did turn out to be them, they would go to jail.

Hopefully Robbo's injury isn't to bad as d be sorely missed if he was sidelined for a few matches.

/Bishop B

Paul67

Apologies if you answered this but don't remeber seeing a reply but do you know if there is any truth in the rumours of Aiden leaving? I know you rubbished the Given/Duff link but never got a reply on him simply just leaving?

Plus, would you say there is a possibility of Bellamy coming back? If so would it be another loan effort?

DD

o1bhoy

A list of all the BNP members was leaked onto the net, and it was thought that there were 2 Scottish footballers on it. Turned out that no players were on it.

Len Brannan.

Are you sure?

Personally I think the lad looks dead on his feet and perhaps a rest may do him some good?

Equally I don't like to see any of our players injured.

All of you fools and those in the media(which makes Inkybhoy double the fool) have no idea!

This list is meaningless. It simply gives you the names of drones and half wits that we see fit to utilise in our quest for complete control by our glorious selves of the political, industrial and financial environment in the UK.

If you want to know who runs and controls the puppet organisation BNP, you are looking in the wrong place. The BNP is nothing. It is a bigger joke amongst us than it is in your namby pamby moaning minnie bleeding heart liberal "society". Oh how I hate that word.

The BNP would not know the epitome of evil if they saw it on their TV screens every night for a decade and a half.....whereas I most certainly would!

Dundee Perth.

Artur has problems with his personal life,and given time his problems will be resolved.

Celtic_First

Heard a bit of him on Radio Scotland. Even heard him say they had a party oficial for black members, which really strikes me as the most unintentionally ironic job ever. I'm pretty hardline on this mob - don't agree with their views and never have. I've actually been cautioned by police for attempting to disrupt one of their demos. No charges brought. Maybe I'm a bit unreconstructed but I really do hope they crawl back into their holes never to be seen again. Obviously, I would hope they see the error of their ways and recant their views. Maybe we could have a wee dance to Blue Mink's seminal Melting Pot!

Some of the notes appended to names were, well, funny. A lot of them hadn't received their gold badges, as if it was Blue Peter competition. One guy was unhappy as he had been told not to wear a bomber jacket. Lots had 'Discretion required re. empoyment concern').

It seems to come from an internal party schisms, the curse of extremist politics. Good.

As for the High Court injunction, I think you might get a public interest defence aginst it. Senior police figures have today said that membership of the BNP is incompatible with police duties as they have to uphold legislation regarding racial, and other forms, of discrimination. One Manchester polis was dismissed recently after being seen wearing a BNP badge while off duty.

I also tried to find the names of certian members of a certain club's supporters trust. Nothing. As I've posted before I'm 99 per cent sure that one of them was involved in far-right canvassing 10-15 years ago, although it may have been for Tyndall's splinter group that split from the Griffin mob.

Lady Thatcher

How kind of you to grace us with you're presence again, like the cauld wind o' Hell blawing in the door.

Are you one of David Icke's lizards? I think we should be told....

While I agree that the Data Protection Act has been breached (and so the publication of the list is illegal)..and,reluctantly, these people are entitled to privacy as well as freedom of speech,that freedom of speech is very often abused to abuse others and I can feel no pity for any of them who might be made to feel a little less comfortable.

Of more concern is the reports that members of the police force are members (how many clandestine organisations do they need ffs). Being a member of the BNP is a dismissable offence for police officers. How their membership came to light does not alter the fact that they broke their terms and conditions of employment and they should be dismissed (and have salt poured in their eyes.

Unfortunately, the fact that illegal activity was responsible for their membership coming to light may well save them. Maybe PF ayr or someone can comment on that. Oh well, I suppose we will jusy have to rely on their colleagues to hound them out. Aye Right!!

Cadizzy

That's it exactly - BNP greet about freedom of speech, but they only want civil freedoms if you fit in with their racial grouping

Had a gander at the list last night. As Inkybhoy said, it's always interesting to see who your friendly neighbourhood fascist is.

Likewise, couldn't see any famous names, although the names rangers and bluenose, along with the numbers 1873, 1690, cropped up fairly regularly! You could have knocked me down with a feather!

On a slightly different note, I wonder how left-wing supoorters (and they do exist) of Scotland's Shame justify it to themselves. Imagine the spaghetti junction of denial that must go on in their heads!

Why were there so many Irish surnames on the list?

Why were there so few addresses in the six counties?

Cadizzy, Inkybhoy

A breach of s. 55(1) of the Data Protection Act, whereby data is disclosed knowingly or recklessly without the consent of the data controller, is an offence. All posters take note: this may also apply to you! However, there is a public interest defence in s. 55 (2)(d) which may make a successful prosecution some way off. This is especially likely if there are any police officers, or for that matter those holding public office, who appeared on the list.

Any other questions?

up_over_goal

How do you find this list?

Good news for the weekend and next midweek hopefully (sorry but cant access the link tool from work):

AIDEN McGEADY is heading the list of Celtic's injured stars making a huge push to return to action at Love Street this weekend.

That would give the current Player of the Year every chance of lining up against Aalborg next Tuesday in a game the Parkhead club must win if they are to keep their hopes of qualification to the knockout stages alive.

McGeady has not played since damaging a calf muscle in training the day before Celtic faced Manchester United on November 5.

Initially he was expected to be sidelined for between eight and 10 days. But this has already stretched to a fortnight, during which he has missed a clutch of important games.

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The return of the 22-year-old ahead of another key series of games would be a huge boost to Celtic, and coach Neil Lennon revealed he is not the only player pushing to return.

He said: "Aiden and Paddy McCourt started training last Tuesday. Marc Crosas isn't too far away and a few of the boys are in a similar position."

Glenn Loovens is one of them, and he has stepped up his training alongside Georgios Samaras, who has had two substitute appearances since recovering from cartilage surgery, but who admits he needs to improve his fitness and match sharpness.

With Artur Boruc due to report back today to have the knee surgery he underwent just over a fortnight ago checked by the medical team, the injury list which at one point saw an entire team sidelined is at last beginning to thin out.

Scott McDonald, who had to miss the weekend win over Hamilton and call off from Australia's World Cup qualifier in Bahrain due to a virus, is expected to be fit to face Saints.

But his strike partner of last season, Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink, remains some way away from a comeback. The Dutchman has not played since tearing an adductor muscle on October 4.

Despite Vennegoor's continued absence, Strachan will head to Love Street with more players to choose from than for several weeks - provided the eight on international duty today all emerge unscathed.

Stephen McManus, Gary Caldwell, Shaun Maloney, Paul Hartley, Barry Robson and Scott Brown are all set to play for Scotland against Argentina, Shunsuke Nakamura will line up for Japan in Qatar and Andreas Hinkel hopes to feature for Germany against England in Berlin.

Lennon admits they can only keep their fingers crossed they all report back without any injuries and said: "You just hope they don't pick up bumps and knocks. But they are representing their country and it means a lot to them."

Publication date 19/11/08

Nice to see the end of the injury 'crisis' is in sight

thismancraig,

regarding 3-5-1 you certainly need exceptionally fit and fast wing-backs. I think it would be asking too much of Naka and Aidan and would take away a lot of their attacking threat. It worked very well for a while with Bobby Petta and Didier