Reid responds to Murray's respect for Celtic, "without fear or favour"

let the people sing

ulster-celt

Quite right

superb

Bronze Medal to the usual place Paul me old shun

excellent, an immediate response to send this issue right back to where it belongs

right back to Moonbeams

HELLO TO JIM SHUN IN PERTH AUSTRALIA

Who would take the good Dr on in a verbal square go? Ma money's on the doc.

Paul Shun

What an excellent, immediate response from Dr John Reid

Absolutely Superb

Particularly

"In any case, no one should be under any illusion that in defending the welfare of Celtic and our supporters I will continue to comment when appropriate, without fear or favour.

HERE WE GO, 4 IN A ROW

HELLO TO JIM SHUN IN PERTH, AUSTRALIA

Questions you might well hear Chico ask:

Sir David, are you surprised that the anniversary of your magnificent arrival at Rangers isn't a national holiday and will you be starting a campaign to put that right?

Imatim, CharlotteSquareHotlineCSC :-)

A top ten finish for the nightshift.

Murray sounds churlish these days.
"For every fiver they spend we will sign a Bosman?"

'GG blinking in the daylight.

Sorry Sir Dave but you are messing with the wrong Rottweiller.

Dr Reid shows his nounce if not his class. Give Sir Dave enough rope

Does anyone think Murray has just lost his battle of words? Which he brought on himself by the way.

OH HOKI KOKI KOKI

If you're watching David.

THAT'S how you do dignity.

Blogger GG

"for every fiver they spend, we'll sign a bosman"

World Class Shun, I like it

HERE WE GO, 4 IN A ROW

Just in from Sky Sports

Celtic will be without Italian midfielder Massimo Donati for next week's UEFA Champions League trip to Aalborg BK.

The 27-year-old former AC Milan man broke a toe in training and will now have to endure a spell on the sidelines

Still laughing on the train home from Inverness about how quick we responded

OUTstanding

Moonbeams will be ragin and no doubt claim he has been misqouted

HERE WE GO, 4 IN A ROW

John Reid please take a bow. Can't wait for the next instalment.

Dr John Reid 1
Minty Moonbeams 0

HERE WE GO, 4 IN A ROW

its all very well gloating at their self implosion but now is the time for us to tighten up in our "singing". give them nothing to throw back at us. Not an inch!

hail hail

Nice response from John Reid.

Reid was polite and and at the same time condescending in the minimum amount of words.

Murray picked a fight with the wrong guy

Sign the Shaddows

The War Lord

Has Murray just managed to give TFS more coverage on the BBC than everyone else put together?

"without fear or favour"

Who has the IP on that,

I see a t-shirt in it...

actually just found it's origination interesting.

Lennondinho18, it sure was.

WeeChrisMorris, deleted.

Ok WeeChrisMorris... I'm going to regret this as I believe your trying to annoy users here.

But your Not Funny.

B

Has anyone seen the skysports news report on Donati being injured, they described him as being a "no-nosense midfielder". I think they need to review the standard of their journalism.

I nearly fell off my seat laughing

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4525446,00.html

green vespa,

Well said. Everyone conected with Celtic FC should be thinking along these lines. Every away game will be "miked" at our end to ensure that any foul chants are clear for all to hear during live games. Do not give them anything to discuss.

http://www.catholicweekly.com.au/03/may/25/18.html

not my comment this is where it was taken from

interesting article 'mind.

Paul Shun

well done on the John Reid Quotes

they are not even on the Celtic Website yet shun

is Pacem in Terris now defunct due to all seaters ?

Paul, BromleyBhoy

Apologies to all.

WCM

Sorry Guy's

Will behave from now on!!

Sad News about Mo Mo Massimo

he has done well and showed a new hunger to get his place back in the team

Get well soon shun

.

Moonbeams: "Get Samaras on the Phone...."

Walt Disnae: "Ermm.... The Phones Broke Dave...."

Moonbeams: "Take the Lear Jet to Manchester and Get Him...."

Walt Disnae: "Ermm....The Lear Jet Has a Flat Tyre Dave...."

Moonbeams: "Is Miller Fit....????"

Walt Disnae: "Will l Phone Chick....????"

o1bhoy

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Minty Moonbeams taught the band to play
They've been going in and out of style
But guaranteed to raise a smile.
So may I introduce to you
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Minty Moonbeams´s Lonely Hearts Club Band.
They're Minty Moonbeams Lonely Hearts Club Band,
We hope you will enjoy the show,
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Sit back and let the evening go.
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Minty Moonbeams Lonely Hearts Club Band.
It's wonderful to be here,
It's certainly a thrill.
You're such a lovely audience,
We'd like to take you home with us,
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I don't really want to stop the show,
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And he wants you all to sing along.
So let me introduce to you
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And Minty Moonbeam's Lonely Hearts Club Band

Paul67.
From the previous article,

It beggers believe that anyone could come out with a statement like that,and hope that it will fall at Celtics door.
As soon as I read it my first thought went to the state of his mind.
These comments are coming from a man under great strain,and where would these pressures come from.
The Banks,Trying to claw back some of the interest that is owed on his borrowing they could be pressurising him into cutting back.
The World Economy.That must be putting tremendous pressure on him.
His Supporters.Well they would strain even god,but I think he gave up on him Over 100 years ago.
EUFA&FIFA.Are they beginning to exert pressure on him.
His Investments.A good option a few years ago,but decidedly a bad choice in the current environment.
Theres Seven things that would put enormous pressure an anyone,and when your under so much pressure you look for someone to blame.
So he picked Poor wee John Reid to vent his anger,Now theres a choice to pick if you want to vent your Anger on anyone.
I'm sure Mr Reid is quivering behind some settee at the thought of the great SDM is out to get him,Our Chairman,perish the thought.

Theres people who will think that this is bad press for Celtic,I can't see any bad press coming to Celtic.Me,I think it's the rants of a very sick man,And I should say I pity him? but I wont.

Pauls correct in his summation that SDM should and could have solved some of the inherrent problems that are ingrained into the very structures that are Ibrox Park.
The start was made when they started signing Catholics,A bold step in those first months when he took over the Ownership,but he made the mistake of not getting rid of the organised hatred that eminates from the mouths of the Hunnish hoards.

My final word on this subject.
The PRESS.Oh how they must have enjoyed their meeting with SDM.I would imagine it would be similar to the utterances of Jim Traynor when he wrote in his column.Of succulent Lamb being served and washed down By the best French Wine.Traynor I must say my mouth was watering when you wrote that piece,but I was also laughing when you uttered such tripe.
Little did you know that your utterances would come back to haunt you.Again and Again.
And what about Sick Young.How any man could ingratiate himself with anything Rangers after such a vile verbal attack by the manager called the cardigan.To allow that man to to degrade you so much,I'll finish where I started,It beggers believe

Not the good doctor's biggest fan but credit where credit's due on this one.

Really liked the without fear or favour, really has Murray summed up. Murray operates by using both .

We aren't afraid and we don't need your favour.

Whitedog

Nice work with the Pacem in Terris stuff.

I think you should have a business idea lightbulb on your T-shirt post.

The original Murray statement didn’t go down well on F/F. They looked upon it as weak and too little too late. Now that the good Doctor has replied, here are a couple of quotes from the inmates:

“For Reid, it must have been like being savaged by a dead sheep. A guy like Murray won't hold any fears for Reid, unfortunately”

“See, that's what real Chairman do, they respond in defence of their clubs, and in double quick time.”

“Exactly what I said would be the response in another thread. Reid wins again and Murray looks like the amateur he is.”

“We can expect another attack on the fans/club any time soon from Reid. Murray's sabre rattling will only end up in a battle our club management have no stomach for. Resulting in another capitulation from us. We, the fans, will pay the price for their weakness in defending us in the past”

Well done John Reid.

Well done John Reid - how can they respond to that?!

He'll be sitting in his wee hun hoose, nursing his anger like a wummin's wrath.....

Questions you won't hear Chick Young or Jim Traynor ask David Murray:

No. 5

"Sir David, at a time when Rangers are trying to distance themselves from the extremist element of the club's support, what is your view on Rangers Employee Andy Cameron making a tribute speech at a senior UDA member's funeral?"

I have said it before and I will say it again...David Murray is a bigot. I have experienced it first hand...

The most astonishing aspect about the Famine Song furore is that despite noises from the Scottish football authorities, the polis, politicians in various Parliaments, bugger all happens.
Sir David is allowed to sit there with his fingers in his ears, in "la-la land", never ever admitting anything but making it ubundantly clear by what he doesnt say that he has no objectiosn to that racist rant, and until some authority ACTS, rather than mouths platitides, then it will continue and the knuckle draggers will continue to belt it out at every opportunity. But with people like Taylor in UEFA, Peat , Smith, and Alex Salmond for that matter, I for one will not be holding my breath.

Murray
he lost it last year when speaking of how much Celtic willing to pay Scott Broony.

What would you think if we sang you a tune,
that was the end of Minty Murray
Lend me your ears and we'll sing you this song,
And it wont get reported by the BBC
Oh I get by with a little help from my friends,
I get high with a little help from my friends,
Oh I'm gonna try with a little help from my friends.

What do I do when my love is away.
(Does it worry you to be alone)
How do I feel by the end of the day
(Are you sad because you're on your own)
No, I get by with a little help from my friends,
Mmm I get high with a little help from my friends,
Mmm I'm gonna to try with a little help from my friends

Do you need anybody?
I need somebody to love.
Could it be anybody?
I want somebody to love.

Would you believe in a love at first sight?
Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time.
What do you see when you turn out the light?
I see a nation that should listen to me
Oh I get by with a little help from my friends,
Mmm I get high with a little help from my friends,
Oh I'm gonna try with a little help from my friends

Do you need anybody?
I just need someone to love.
Could it be anybody?
I want somebody to love
Oh...
I get by with a little help from my friends,
I'm gonna try with a little help from my friends
I get high with a little help from my friends
Yes I get by with a little help from my friends,
with a little help from my friends

Perfect response from Reid. How infuriating for Murray that the man he has attempted to spear with his big-whoopee-doo TV exclusive responds with such mitrthful condescending contempt.

Also very astute of Reid to focus on the essential inanity at the heart of Murray's statement- "What's that David? Sorry, non comprende old boy. Listen, never mind, have a great wee birthday party anyway."

Also like the lack of "Sir".

You don't call me doctor...

Celtic_First

I have just secured a loan with HBOS on the back of my metalwork
standard grade and they the t-shirts are now being stitched up as we speak.

Poor Murray having to defend the indefensible.

With respect to Brian Quinn, who I thought was a fantastic chairman, I think we might have to go as far back as Bob Kelly to get a statement like that from a chairman of Celtic FC.

Murray might have his poodles and his spin machine but who can compete with the spin machine that was the Labour party. Your out of your league Murray. The truth will relieve you of all your stress. Come on its good therapy, you KNOW you want to.

Thats it...you can do it....The Famine Song is racist...There that wasnt so hard was it?

Now, come in to the light......

WDH

Will have phone number for you later tonight re that business you asked about earlier this week

Lennondinho18, not sure how important it is for the official site to be drawn into this one.....

WeeChrisMorris, no probs.

oldtim67, he is indeed getting it from all angles at the moment.

Whitedoghunch, so HBOS are backing metal businesses again? Maybe it’s time for Murray to get back into metals.

Whitedog

Flaunt it baby.

And remember, eight out of ten consumers are willing to pay a premium for fair trade products, or used to be before life got tricky.

Part of Murray's problem here is the big 'the circus is coming to town' build-up they all give it whenever he deigns to throw the lapdogs some Winalot and share some wisdom.

Even Rangers fans don't fall for that any more.

I once mentioned my 'murray experience' to jim traynor who replied that he wasn't surprised. He told me that murray often finishes his phone calls with, "...got to go, got an empire to run. No surrender!"

Picture yourself in a tub on a river
With tangerine tops and marmalade pies
Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly
it´s Uefa with kaleidoscope eyes

Cellophane flowers white, yellow and green
Towering over your head
Look at the past with the sun in her eyes
And she's gone

Questions you won't hear Chick Young or Jim Traynor ask David Murray:

No. 6

Just how much DID it hurt, on THAT Thursday at Pittodrie in May? (Sorry, you WERE THERE, I take it?)

feel like Paul here:

inkybhoy ta boss

Paul even the 'Metallers' are finding it tough with Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich forced to keep hold of a FrancidsBacon the other week - didn't quite reach th 80 mill or something

Celtic_First

Fairtrade I believe was one of the few consumer retail areas to actually grow of recent 1/1.5 %

and I need to get out more

It's amazing how David Murray say's he will not let just anyone take over his club. David Murray will need to get out fast if his team do not win the league this year. With Funds running lower than low and the fact that the Title deeds of "Murray Park", are actually owned by HBOS.

The only reason the bank has not done the same to which they done with Leeds United is because part of Ibrox is a listed building. Murray continues to pull the wool over the eyes of his clubs supporters but slowly and surely the fans backlash will provail,

The Alan Hutton cash was used to balance the books of his sister company ENICA. FACT.

The more things like this continue to happen and the lack of crazy ideas(i.e) Redevelopment of Ibrox, hotel casino the fans will vent their frustrations.

This is one of the main reason Murray continues to back his supporters on such shocking Non condemnation of Sectarian behaviour as he knows the end for Mr murray is in the horizon.

WCM

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Minty Moonbeams´s Lonely Hearts Club Band
We're sorry but its time to go.
Minty moonbeams's lonely.
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WeeBobbyCollins

If James Traynor is unsurprised at your report of bigoted behaviour from the great one, why is he still eating Winalot from the guy's hand?

Re questions Chick Young might ask.... "Is that nice, Sir David?"

Paul I hope the official site reports this asap for a couple of reasons. Firstly because John Reid has just made an important public statement as our Chairman not in any other capacity and I expect to see ALL such utterances on the site. Secondly to fail to do so could give the impression the club were not acting and thinking as one on this issue. We are neither embarrassed or ashamed of the sentiments so express them. We have our own constituency to take with us and this is another example of clarity. I was disappointed that that the club did not make more of our Chairman's definition on the songs issue which he clarified at the AGM.

Awe_Naw...........enough wi the Beatles !!!!

Some things are beyond parody :o)))

pablophanque

Pablo,

I read the news today oh Bhoy .... :-) :-) :-)

In getting his response out so quickly JR has ensured that DM is prevented from having even one evening in control of the news agenda.

Although the statement is brief it manages to be humorous, condescending and dis-respectful to 'David' and at the same time he makes it clear that he will not be intimidated.

Oh to be a fly on the wall at Charlotte Square this afternoon...

am no happy about aw this inference and innuendo

I posted the following on and to be honest, now that I have seen Our Chairmans response I have an even higher regard for our men at the top (The reaction from FF cements this).

Now it is time for the fans to add their support.

"Many on here,myself included, have called for an end to the OF tag and it's inherent tacit agreement to stand together in the boardrooms to ensure financial and political strength remains with the clubs.

It appears to me, and maybe I am just hoping here, that this statement and the expected retorts from Celtic Park, will lead to a distancing in the "special" relationship. If nothing else comes of it this will certainly be a major plus.

Minty has thrown his gauntlet down. He did not do so without careful consideration and advice regards the ramifications of an unprecedented attack on the Celtic chairman.

The powers at Celtic Park will have time to decide on a reply, and reply they must as not to would be to lose all credibility. I believe we have men at the top who can more than take care of themselves in a war of words. It helps to have right on your side.

Complacency can be dangerous. This "interview" was not undertaken lightly. The good guys don't always win so care must be taken.

We as fans need to do more to highlight the root of the problem. There was much printed and spoken of when a small number of fans left Celtic Park in protest. Imagine what would happen then, come the next Derby match, when the GA start up their bile in the knowledge that they have the backing of their board and mcuh of the establishment, if the whole away support leave the stadium?

No media would be able to ignore such a condemnation through peaceful protest. No amount of Media House spin would deflect from the problem. It would be picked up worldwide and the apologists in their club, the MSP's & MP's, the SFA/SPL and the countries excuse for a media would be shown for what they are. bigots or cowards.

Yes the board must reply. We as fans must also continue to bring this racism to as wide a public as possible.

Not long ago a member of their supporters representatives openly advocated civil unrest amongst his bretheren and escaped condemnation. We can rise above this, it will carry more weight and escalate the problem within our country to a new level. We will not win the argument in Scotland, sad to say. We may win if we take it to a larger audience. Peaceful Protest.......then Right Will Win."

BRING IT ON

Alasdair MacLean,
It hurt him as much as you (and us) loved it Id say!

Awe_Naw.............

Digging A Hole :o)))

pablophanque

Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo November 20, 2008 4:51 PM

"Pablo,

I read the news today oh Bhoy .... :-) :-) :-)"

4000 holes in Minty's argument.....:>))

Raverheart35 4:08

Exactly! Further

In saying " but I'm not entirely sure of the points he is trying to make regarding inference and innuendo."

Reid has invited Murray to do just that, give TFS an even higher public profile. I'm betting that Murray wil not be drawn further for it would require him to answer the question no one has had the balls to ask him and that is

Mr Murray what is your own personal view on The Famine Song and do you condemn it?

I like the "indulge David" bit,thats pure class,treating him with kid gloves and also mocking the press falling over themselves to get an interview,pure class Dr John!

BTW some funny stuff on this on the Generic Huns thread on KDS. (if you have finished reading CQN of course)

Classic New Celtic Rebuttal Strategy, I do believe. Brilliant Mr. Reid, like stealing political candy from a baby.

Careless talk from Murray pinned down with precision by John Reid. Let's be clear, there was no inference, no coded suggestion, he slammed them then and Murray's blethering allowed them to be slammed again.

Come on Murray, now what have you got to say? Dare you say it after today's rebuttal? My advice? Murray... schtoom.

In a rational nation, with a rational media, the spat between the two should act to highlight the real issue. Let's see.

Without fear or favour... that works so well because it is exactly how journalists in Scotland have failed in their duties for the 20 year reign of Murray.

A fine job, John Reid.

Is it just me, or can anyone else sense something major is happening?

McGrain

JHC!

David Murray must be hunkering in a corner, sweating profusely, red faced and crying bitterly with frustration.

Little bit of advice SDM. Know your enemies.

Oh .... and I almost forgot ......

"Happy birthday to yooohoooo!"

Whitedoghunch

Loved this bit from the link

The media “have a strict duty to foster justice and solidarity in human relationships at all levels of society”, he says. “This does not mean glossing over grievances and divisions but getting at their roots so that they can be understood and healed.”

A policy more ignored than observed in Scotland.

See the people standing there
Who disagree and never win
And wonder why they don't get in my door

Paul, WGS

Ivan Klasnic
http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/11/20/Ligue1-Kita-on-Klasnic/

Interesting development.

Would Chick Young ask the question - "Sir Minty my love, any chance of some succulent lamb or finest red wine your gorgeousness?"
And could it be that we are all analysing this too far and that the simple fact is that Sir Minty, rather than pandering to the unsavoury ,but clearly minority, of his support is simply stating his own beliefs and that, as weebobbycollins and everyone who has met the man says he is an aggressive bullying bigot???

Murray if you want to continue to bully the media fine.

You are a liar if you accuse John Reid of inuendo.
He told Rangers straight, no inuendo in my book, the Famine song is racist and Celtic aren't a selling club.

Your fake humility about making mistakes years ago doesn't wash.
For every £5 etc. You area washed up fool in charge of a fan base you are actually scared to face off.

Rule Britannia, you can't even rule Scotland.

This isn't 1990 when we had an impotent board and couldn't callange you on or off the field.

I hope to see Celtic continue with the message that we are different. A start would be an end to joint sponsorship deals.

I predict that the verb "indulge" and the adjective "indulgent" will now replace the phrase "astounded of forehead" as most used on CQN..

Actually, I've just indulged in a little predicting myself!!

Whitedoghunch, maybe Lars is saving up for a Howson.

WeeChrisMorris, happy to throw scorn on DM all day long, but your “FACT” regarding “ENICA” (perhaps ENIC?) is in fact not so.

Also, the listed aspect of Ibrox has little no bearing on the bank’s management of the account.

Andycol, I don’t know if the official site will comment or not, but as I said earlier, this is not a Celtic issue so I would prefer a low key response. More importantly, the criticisms from Murray were about John Reid, not Celtic Football Club; the response came from John Reid, not Celtic Football Club.

airdrie onion, Stand Up for Airdrie.

WGS, I don’t know the player.

Lurgan53, I predict, that you predict correctly.

Well done to our Chairman for standing up to Murray's nonsense.

He really is between the proverbial rock/ hard place. He cannot admit that TFS is racist or he alienates a lot of his own fans and he can't say that it is fine to sing it because he will be hammered.

Do you really think he can sell the club right now?? Bet he wishes he could!

Aw Naw

Great stuff.

Four thousand holes in Blackburn Lanacashire
And though the holes were rather small
Sir David kept on digging in them all.

Paul - was JR not speaking on either occasion as Chair of CFC?

Mcgraininspain, I’m sure he was but while I’m sure a criticism of the club or fans would be rebuffed on the official site, a criticism of a director is less clear. In fact, I cannot think of a precedent for this one.

Sorry Pablo

The Hendersons will all be there
Late of Pablo Fanques Fair, what a scene!

Over men and horses hoops and garters
Lastly through a hogshead of real fire!
In this way Mr. Kite will challenge the world!

Paul

Do you think Dr Reid and the blog doctor are related?

I guess anyone can say what they like about Dr. John Reid.
plenty on here have.
I think we have got exactly the right chairman we need in this time.

I also think he could become to be seen as over-seeing a historic time for the club.

I suggested the day Dr. Reid issued his original statement about TFS that Celtic had a long term stategy in mind that involved more than just appeasing the establishment.

Maybe, just maybe, going along with Club's tactics so as not to allow any free, even if erronious, ammunition being gifted to the media(our enemy in this matter and no mistake)is the fans part to play in securing this victory.

Say what you like about Dr. John Reid, but perhaps some on here are starting to realise the guy is on our side, is one of us and is probably the best in Britain when you have a dirty fight on your hands in any political arena.

I am not trying to tell anyone what to do or what to sing or not to sing.

But I don't accept that the Club is trying to shed it's Irish identity, not a bit of it.

An earlier poster asked:
"Is it just me, or can anyone else sense something major is happening?"

Isn't just possible that The Club knows what it is doing?
And, in Dr. John Reid know they have the right man for job?

What if...

Question Time in Glasgow tonight.

"Ah'd like tae ass eh panel how is it we cannae sing whit we want bit they can?

Paul 67,
The hutton money was questioned at the recent Rangers AGM. The question was based around the fact that an investor in Rangers who works as a director for a local Bread firm( Dont Buy Mothers Pride :) was unhappy at the lack of tranfer cash available compared to recent years and indeed mentioned David Murray's Morals around how he invests his cash( Enic) minus A (Sorry).

He apparently dug deep and found that Murray did indeed Use the cash to Balance the books so to speak as he has used Enic over recent years to splash cash into the football club.

This Investor no longer "invests" his hard earned cash into rangers as he was subject of an apparrent "buy out" due to his questioning at the AGM and previous enquiries.

Again this info is "Alleged" but came from a source who is pretty well connected with both this person and also a gentlemen who indeed Dealt with the Rangers account in another European Capital.

Around the listed Building, I agree, but the purchasers are very loathed to buy the club as they are looking at opportunities to do something different with the staduim and surrounding area. This indeed could be the stumbling block for DM selling the club.

WCM

Your thoughts m8

Did the good knight imply that John Reid would not be reelected to Airdrie and Shotts as the good souls of North Lanarkshire would not vote for someone connected with Celtic?

Not since James Dempsey stood in 1959 has a labour seat in the Coatbridge and Airdrie area been under threat because a Catholic was standing for election.
Apart from Dempsey himself, some very distinguished politicians have represented the area including Peggy Herbison and John Smith.

Does the black knight believe that the bigots who spout hate and racism would actually have the intelligence to vote en masse for a "SEND THEM BACK" candidate?

Back in the corner David, lick your wounds and listen to the bleating of your wooly minded media mates.

'GG enjoying the daylight

Things have reached a pretty pass when Dr Reid features prominently on this blog and there are virtually no criticisms made of him. As I posted earlier, Murray has united us in a way I could not have foreseen. Once again, well done Zsa Zsa. No, not for your unparalleled mismanagement of the last 20 years, but for your ability to forge partnerships among Celtic fans the world over.

Allgreen,

Never mind ruling Scotland,

he cannpt e4ven rule his own club.

Martin.

the murray ship holed below the water line anybody got a leaking lifejacket for the tosser

Questions Chick wont ask -
" Sir Minty, conservative estimates are that, over the past 20 years, you personally have trousered over £120M in selling of shares, trading agreements on everything from pies to youth players where your cut is a straightforward 20% and that Murray Park is indeed owned by you and leased to RFC at an exhorbitant rate! What have you done with all that hard conned cash your mightiness and do you believe the truth will ever come out? And what do you make of that beastly so called Doctor Reid?"

David Dimbleby- "Who just asked that question?.....Aah,you there sir,the Gash Nesbitt looking jakey on the right."

TRAVEDONATIM on November 20, 2008 4:25 PM

Do not despair. There is much going on about TFS at many levels. Individuals have written e mails/letters and had buck passing or unsatisfactory responses.

Evidence is accruing with every passing day of inaction/non condemnation.

An Irish MEP Eion Ryan has been invited to Scotland by the Scottish Government to discuss Irish racism.Write to him (Google it)with your views. (I have)

Wee George keeps on raising it publically and now Minty himself has brought it back into the limelight.

Celtic in the shape of John Reid are fighting our corner.

Sooner or later the question will be asked who is taking responsibility for running Scotland and in the absence of evidence to back their stand off policy Salmond will have to do something.

SDM got his TFS strategy wrong from the start. Tackling TFS offered him the best chance he ever had of cleaning up Ranger's act and he miscontrolled the pass. The ball is rolling further and further from his control with each passing day.

What does he expect to happen, that TFS will be declared non racist or will just go way of its own accord?

Patience!

Murrays self inflated ego is unsurpassed
his words the day are of the village idiot
this from the man who would be king

As Franklin D Roosevelt said " A day that will live in hilarity"

mcgraininspain

I get that feeling too, I think we're likely to see a big move against sectarianism in the next six to twelve months. The Scottish Government will probably have something to say about it, and the SFA may even resort to docking points, as they've been threatening to do for a while now. Singing of the Billy Boys has more or less disappeared from Ibrox in the last year or so and, while TFS has reared its head, I don't think that'll be allowed to stand for much longer. Sooner or later Minty is going to have to condemn the song as being hateful, sectarian bile, or risk Rankers having a few points taken off them, which they can ill afford right now.

celtic_first @ 4.43, why indeed! Another establishment lackey queueing at the trough.

Sorry, did I miss something?

Weren't we told earlier that Murray was about to give us news that would make Celtic fans unhappy? :)))

What about a scenario where we're, say, 12 points clear in the league - TFOD may get docked points then if it doesn't affect the title race? Assuming that no team ever comes from 12 points behind to win :>)

WeeChrisMorris, the legend of the ENIC transaction dates back to a comment on the Rangers accounts some years ago. I am very familiar with the matter and can confirm that it was concluded (and noted in subsequent accounts) a couple of years back.

The paper trail for the Hutton transaction was detailed in this year’s accounts, both in terms of balance sheet and cash transactions.

Hoopeddreams, as far as I’m aware, it’s only you and me on here, and at least one of us has multiple personalities.

RRC, of course the club knows what it is doing, but there is a constituency ready to jump on it for any apparent failure, even one which cannot be clearly explained.

Hooptime, Auldheid, deleted, language.

martin42

I think that's part of his problem.
Any attempt to bring Rangers into the 21st centuary only works to a point.

For too long they have been able to do as they please and as the world changes what they have done is now not so acceptable.

Murray is not financially strong enough to fight the looney element in his support.Ibrox would be half empty if Murray tried to tackle sectarianism/racism full on. The battle he has isn't with decent blokes like Ed, it's with those who don't see a problem exists.

After all Bain asked fans to stop singing The Famine Song as it could cause Rangers problems, not because it is morally wrong and racist.

I am very disappointed that he is never questioned on his opinions.

His interviews are rarely interviews, just a chance for him to spout forth
The media just seem so glad that he talks to them and as a result he gets away with anything he says as gospel.

Murray "When it's time to walk, I'll walk". About spat my cup of tea over my laptop at that one. Classic.

RRC 5.27 and Drunken Lullabies 5.43

I think you're both right. I tihnk the club is very clear in its strategy to distance itself as an ethos, brand and football club from Rangers.

There can be no footballing, business or ethical future in being associated with such an anachronism, such a tarnished brand and I sense that is the change.

Clear green water?

As a matter of interest what will Murray do if John Reid doesn't watch what he says in future?

Bore him to death?
Offer him the name of his hairpiece supplier/

Perhaps John Reid should challange him to a live televised one to one USA politics style and tear him a new one.

paul67

Let us see what column inches are given to John Reid's reaction to Murray's astonishly blind comments.

Liberal well intentioned Celtic fans still waiting patiently, for something to be done by officialdom about 'that song' are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Murray's latest comments and the general line that Rangers have taken emphasise that
they do not think that they have a case to answer.

The reason they think they have no case to answer is that whether a lot of Catholics or Celtic fans like it ir not, we are seen as second class citizens in this country, backed fundamentally
and rock solid constitutionally, by the act of settlement.

They operated a sectarian signing policy with impunity for 100 years, don't dare timmy bother
Sir David with triffling matters such as that song

paul67 don't reiterate your notion of a due process, there is no due process to be followed their time is up the answer is the same as it was on 31/08/08 ban the Rangers hoardes from Celtic Park,

Ban them now

Ban them permanently

Tell the civilised world why we banned them.

Hail Hail

Paul,
Cheers for the reply,
Im off to Hibernate!!. :)'

Take Care
WCM

Paul,
Re accounts and income to Sir Minty? What about the share sale to Enic ( for £40M )and the NTL digital ( for I think the same amount) for TV rights? I am told Sir Minty sold these shares personally and bought back ENIC alone for £8M in 2004 and personally trousered £32M in the process?

Plagarised from elsewhere (KDS) to show the reaction on the sooside. If anyone has any other examples, please post as they are hilarious. What an own goal!

"So let me get this straight. Dr Death comes out and attacks our fans.

Weeks later Murray replies not by defending us or attacking Reid but basically saying please don't do that again John.

Reid replies straight away saying he will say what he wants.

Hmmm. Maybe someone could explain to me how we as a club and Murray as an individual don't look like bitches here."

I could not have put it better myself..........priceless.

I think the response from John Reid is brilliant. It makes me think that they are confident TFS issue is not over for the dark side, so why take the bait?

Reid also draws attention to the fact that Murray's comments don't make a lot of sense!

'we are in a society in scotland where every word and every point is picked up by everybody, and he should be very careful with some of the chat.'

Sorry, what did you say Sir Minty?
And it's not even misquoted, if it had been misquoted it might not have been so rubbish.

He refers to Reid's 'inference and innuendos' too. The same inferences and innuendos which condemn TFS? Or different ones where Reid suggested Celtic were 'not a selling club'. Right now, Celtic are NOT a selling club due to a net spend for last few transfer windows. Correct me if i'm wrong. I think he's bitter.

Still nowhere near as bad as 'For every fiver they spend...'

So now instead of being mr rich man panto villain, he's going to go political and see how far TFOD can stretch anti-racism legislation until it snaps back in their faces. Surely the song has to be condemned?

'And former Northern Ireland Secretary Reid said: "As both R*ngers Football Club and Strathclyde Police have stated, the content of the song - which is directed against the community of Irish descent in Scotland - is in breach of Race Relations legislation and exposes its perpetrators to the risk of prosecution.'

This is not a condemnation, it's a warning, anyway a lot of guys who choose to sing this in a crowd of thousands aren't going to be worrying much about the risk of prosecution.

Seems that the loss of the billy boys has left the song book in tatters, now that the effects of modern society are forcing RFC to change their tune :)

Or maybe Minty is just a fan of music, who knows...

HT

youdonthavetobesmarttogetsomemoonbeamscsc

Once A Bhoy

Bitches and Mongrels!

cheers for that!!!

BlowmawhistlebitchC.S.C

I've got to listen to snyde tonight.

BFDJ totally downhearted, almost referred to JR as "Sir JR"

Brilliant........

A few weeks ago when we were all being fey and writing poetry, I stuck on some doggerel about Murray and his 20 years. I can't find that one and so have done another wee one to celebrate.

Worryingly the man seems to be my inspiration so I cut it a bit shorter than the original on which it is based. It goes to the tune of.....well you'll know what the tune is

And now the end is near, my twenty years of running Rangers.
Each one was lots of fun, but now the Hun and me are strangers
They think that I’ve sold out and there’s no doubt I’d take an offer
To fill (..or just half fill...) my empty coffers.

I’ve lived the true blue dream, I built a team to beat my rival.
I brought them to their knees and making pleas for their survival
But they just rose again and stopped the “ten” and left me nowhere
And as for Advocaat ...well just don’t go there!

For there’s no doubt, there were some times when I spat out my finest wines
To tell the world what I truly feel through the words of those who kneel
And I suppose the Record shows it did it my way.

And now on my last legs I show my steel in all I utter
I pander to the boys, the billy boys, my bread and butter
And that old Famine Song, there’s nothing wrong. If I had my way
They’d do the verses too on the Queen’s Highway.

For what is a man, what has he got, when he is the fifth filthy rich Scot?
He stands tall and talks the talk, (though maybe not to walk the walk!)
So Doctor John, please be warned. Here we do it my way

Cadizzy

Is Frank there?

"....but now the hun and me are strangers!" hahahaha,I havent read past that yet!

Bournesoup 5.57pm - I'd agree but think of the commercial damage.....
(yes, I am being disingenuous!)

".....my bread and butter." hahaha

Cadizzy thats brilliant!HH

Paul67 - even you can't have as many personalities as our Kojo/Collie/Mabel surely????